Thank you. Thank you. Hey, what's up guys?
We're going to wait for radar and then we'll get started.
I think they, I swear they're in Australia.
And let me look what time it is in Australia.
So, yeah, I hope they, I hope they show up.
You look kind of like a radar PFP.
Worst case scenario, we'll just have you come up,
and then you can talk on behalf of them the whole time.
Okay. While we're waiting for them to pop on, so if you haven't really been to any of
these spaces, so three days a week, Bonk Intern and I, we talk to different Bonk Eco projects.
This is episode 40, so we've been doing this since August, which seems like forever. I think we've talked to, I'm bad at counting, but we've
definitely talked to like over 80 different Bonk projects. Some spaces have three or four at a time.
So it's pretty cool. This one I was really excited about. It's radar on Bonk and it's bringing
privacy to Bonk. If you look at their chart, it's pretty solid.
I was going to get in, and then I didn't,
and now I feel like I'm sidelined,
but then I feel like it's going to go without me if I don't get in.
So overall, it's a good project.
And if you followed ZEC and all the privacy narrative
that's been happening, this kind of came pretty timely.
So hopefully the dude's not asleep at 2 a.m. in Australia,
and hopefully they're good to come
because they're going to explain it a lot better than I can.
If not, we'll just have to reschedule,
or I'll let you guys come up and ask me questions for the full hour,
and I'll just bullshit with you guys the whole time.
What are you plotting on, dude?
Your PFP makes me laugh so much.
I respect the PFP change.
I think they are on. Just waiting for them to pop in spaces now.
Feel free to request to come up and speak though in the meantime until they come up.
I don't care if you talk about Radar, if you talk about your own project you like, Bonk,
anything else, you can just request to speak.
You could ask me questions, you could ask Bonk Intern questions.
I'll answer for Bonk Intern, unless he's feeling up to it.
But I'll probably be the one doing it.
Everyone can request, unless your name's Berlin,
and then for sure you can request.
I actually want to know who you guys want to see so I'd like I have a whole um like a multi chart thing of every bonk token and there's somebody that didn't know about like next week we have
there's kovu and then air coin, which I thought was different than the cow.
And then DCA, which is one of my favorites, and Delulu.
So I don't know if any of you guys are in one of those communities or not,
but if you're not, you can hop on the list.
I think we have spaces rolled up until end of December.
And I know you don't want to listen to me talk for the full hour, so hopefully radar
But, request to speak to you if you have any questions.
We can make it an interview about me.
So long as you don't yell at me though, I'm guessing they, I'm guessing he's asleep if you were supposed to wake up at 2 a.m first
basis do you think you guys would do it i probably would just stay up the rest of the
night and not actually try to wake up again so worst case yeah worst case we're just gonna bag
it i'm surprised no one wants to speak this This is your moment. This is your chance.
This is your Eminem one shot.
I don't know how that song goes, but you know what I'm talking about.
You could ask me for financial advice, and I would recommend you just do the exact opposite of it, actually.
All right, we got one person.
Maybe we'll see if Luke at Radar wakes up before the end of this thing,
and then we'll get going.
I've been waiting for, like, so long to hear someone speak. And since no one is coming up, I'm good, man. I'm good. I've been waiting for like so long to hear someone speak.
And since no one is coming up, just said so.
Yeah, one shot Eminem needs.
So, but yeah, I'm good. This is my first time on this base, actually.
I've been on this base, like, I think once before the last one.
But yeah, this is my first time.
So yeah, we could take a bite.
Do you think Radar fell asleep
because it's 2 a.m. in Australia
and he's not coming to the space?
Bro, like if I was in this space around,
So, I mean, it's a lot of calm feeling, you know,
even if, let's say he sleeps late or something like that,
I don't know, but probably still sleeping.
2 a.m. is, that's literally midnight, man.
You know, I'm kind of retarded.
So if I hear two people I guess
it's 10 a.m. Eastern if I hear 10 a.m. Eastern I think maybe he's thinking a
different a.m. p.m. type of scenario but it's scheduled though so it should be
easy what's up Hazy how's it going yo what's up everybody good morning it was
just a little quiet so I figured I don't, I figured I'd request no one was speaking.
What is that? Is it an NFT collection?
It's an NFT collection. Yeah, with hoodies.
They're cool. They're pretty cool. It's like a .2 floor price.
Something like that that but it's
a cool collection now I rockin this BFP two years now maybe I like it I we don't
talk about so I had there was a token that was like a,
with, it wasn't with Hoodie, but it was called Hood.
And it was about like a cat girl hood.
Um, anyway, that one totally just flopped.
There was a dev that had it and created this shit.
And anyway, so Hood's give me PTSD these days.
But I like it. It's a sick hoodie. So, hoods give me PTSD these days. Oh my god.
It's hard to change up your PFP when you go with a certain brand to swap to something else. It is.
People even want to do just new PFPs,
or I want to rock some to support different communities or stylize it.
It's just really hard because then it –
like, even if I follow someone and then they change up their PFP
and I don't really know who they are anymore,
I don't really know them by name.
I know them by their picture.
So it becomes your brand almost, you know, and it's like –
you know, people ask me, well, you know,
why don't you have, like, a 10-sold PFP, you know, and it's like, you know, people ask me, well, you know, why don't you have like a 10 sold PFP, you know, or something like that, you know, and I'd love to have a more expensive one and I can easily buy a more expensive one, but I'm so committed to this one.
Yeah, well, and I'm too poor.
I swear I bought the one.
There was a site was part of an NFT community called Anatta.
And when they first launched, I think I bought one that was for 14 ETH.
And then I think that same one, the floor is like 0.02 ETH.
Yeah, that's the life of NF...
But I mean, maybe they'll come back you know everyone thinks
things are dead and then eventually they bounce back you know yeah they bounce back that's it
tyler olson what are you doing on spaces dude
i didn't even know you had an x account anymore that's so funny um you came to the you came to
the spaces where the guests didn't actually show up this time, Tyler.
So we're just bullshitting with random people.
Usually we have a guest that comes each time.
I actually kind of want Timmy to come up and speak and just see if he sounds actually like Timmy or not.
How did it send it to that?
Well, I don't think... Oh, Berlin. let's see what you're going to show, dude.
Berlin's like a part of every coin that goes from zero market cap to 10k market cap.
What is it saying? It's a meme on Bonk?
What, Raider? No, Raider's actually, it's actually a sick, legit project, so it's a privacy on bonk what radar no radars actually it's actually a sick legit project so it's a
privacy token on bonk um well i'm gonna completely bullshit it so it's not really a privacy token i
think it's a privacy framework so for privacy transactions but um yeah they launched and
were migrated to bonk i don't know i was I told everyone every time I speak with someone new I don't research any of it I like the logo and then I talk
about it that way and then they tell me all about it when it happens so hell
yeah all I know is its privacy on bonk I have no idea what they do but they make
they generate revenue so that's enough information for me to ape it the the chart looks good i don't know
it's like it's one of those that looks like it could get crimed so there's always the charts
that look like they can get crimed and that looks like one of them i'm gonna take a peek at it
absolutely uh berlin what's up dude what's going on i think you started the x space in a way so
that we're going to start
funding it and let's drive this to zero so we could accumulate a little bit more
should we actually that's a great idea you had said you missed your uh you're saying your
sideline so let's let's uh drop it to get to me should luke wake up and be like shit
but it could be good for everyone else maybe it's
maybe it's so private that
he's not showing up just for privacy
reasons I actually gotta look at my chat now
this time now I'm gonna look
because what if I told him the wrong time
no I told him the right time.
I said, how does 12.05 at 10 a.m. Eastern or 12.08 at 2 p.m. Eastern sound?
So, today's 12.05, and it's 10 a.m. Eastern.
So, technically, I think we're good, right?
Let's do December 5th, 10 a.m.
All right, Berlin, let's flood this thing.
What should we talk about?
We're going to do our own analysis on radar.
Looks like KOLs are dumping.
It looks really good, honestly.
So with Luke, the main main dev I've known
or I've been speaking with him since
like February, March of this year
I mean that's like forever if you think about it
within like the trenches right
I'm thinking that this is perhaps just one of those times where he might have then, I guess, just literally fell asleep to the point of exhaustion.
Because I've never seen him actually miss anything before.
So I'm hoping that that's what it is and not something obviously worse than that.
Berlin, I forgot that you're the
one who told me about radar like way before so you were you actually told me about radar at like
600 or 700 000 right something around there yeah and then i was like that actually looks really good
and i say i'm gonna buy it and then i was trying to get in at like 300 000 market caps as ago it
could probably dip there and then your ass sent it from sub 1 million up to like three and a half million that next day.
anytime you see a project you think that you like,
or you might be interested in,
you got to just have some kind of a portfolio management that just says,
I'm going to put in maybe 20%,
here. Then if there's a dip,
you get more instead of just missing it. That's it. Yeah, I'm kind of, for me, it's kind of hard
because it's like, if I buy it, I want to buy like several percent, which I know is really bad
because then people look at those wallets and like, I want this two, three, four, five, whatever
percent wallet to get out instantly before I send this thing higher so i um i've learned to not just instantly buy everything up and then no one else will buy it
and i'll just be the el oh i'll give not too much of a technical pitch of radar but at least my
understanding of it so far berlin could you give us a technical pitch of Radar, please?
I would say the 10-second elevator pitch for Radar
is that it is actually true, legit, genuine privacy on Solana.
There's no other privacy token.
So there are privacy tokens out there that are good at hiding,
and I'll use the word hiding, your transactions through what's called Block Explorer.
So those that are actually good at tracking KOLs, wallets, and whatnot
are aware of what SolScan is and Block Explorer.
So you could go in there,
you could see what wallets are actually doing transactions.
I mean, again, everything is considered on blockchain, right?
That's why people like Bitcoin, crypto in general.
But the downside to that is
if you actually know how to track something,
everything is actually theoretically trackable within the actual
Radar and what Luke has been able to develop is basically a way of doing everything off
of or takes your transactions off of Block Explorer.
explorer so there is no actual connection and he has ran or run multiple i guess contests
So there is no actual connection.
for people to figure out where those transactions have occurred and obviously nobody has figured
that out yet so i mean that's kind of proof in the pudding there. But I think as time goes on, more people will start to learn about radar and try to figure it out.
Right. And I think that's kind of where we're going to get to.
Do you think so actually just pausing here?
So what's actually really, really cool is even though the main guest hasn't showed up, there's a few people willing to speak.
I know Kai obviously has got some radar branding around in Berlin.
You're the one who told me about radar sub,
I swear, like $600,000 market cap.
So I think Luke, he's probably asleep from exhaustion.
He'll probably come back and be like,
damn, these guys did a space without me, and they nailed it.
Except for Haro's bad jokes.
Well, the previous, so the last message that i've
seen from luke and again so i'm pretty flat out and transparent with a lot of things and i guess
a lot of people also just don't like that about me in the space but like luke will send me dms
and i'll be like hey man what do you think about this right trying to get my opinion
and then i'll see him also share a lot of very big information publicly within the group.
So the last communication that I've seen from Luke has been with Coliseum.
So I'm sure you're aware of what Coliseum is,
but I know that Luke has had a very well engaged conversation with them and
if you know who Colosseum is you know this isn't like this little tiny well I
mean it's not a project it's like a whole ecosystem economy with investors
money researchers marketing all that all that fun stuff.
Like a whole Coliseum, perhaps.
So the last message I've seen from him was in the public group, Radar Telegram group,
where he had a very good conversation with Coliseum.
very good conversation with Colosseum and I think we're all kind of waiting to
see what comes to fruition from that but again I'm only going based off of what
I've seen publicly put it that way yeah I think there's um so I like how you
said like not just bonk but you said like Solana overall so Bonk is basically
it's like a it's like a leverage trade on Solana so you I mean yes they chose chose to go on Bonk
for probably the community and whatnot but overall it's just Solana privacy which is much bigger than everything, right? I think on that topic, I think that...
All right, so Solana or crypto in itself
has different layers, right?
When we talk about Solana being an actual chain,
people then are comparing it to like Bitcoin, Ethereum,
Litecoin, whatever, right?
But then Solana itself then has its own little ecosystems within it.
So that's when you see Bonk, PumpFun, and all these other different like launch pads.
And Hero, correct me if I'm wrong, but the way that I'm looking at this is every single Bonk token that's out there is generating fees for bonk. Whatever
pump fund tokens are out there are generating fees for pump fund. So when it comes down to
an actual ecosystem within Solana, personally, I've seen the bonk team reach out to projects,
reach out to individuals, whether or not it's tech or meme specific,
and they actually facilitate and help these projects
actually grow within their ecosystem
because there is an actual incentive for them to do so
because then they also generate fees from that.
Whereas with PumpFun, I kind of see it like a free-for-all type thing.
I don't really see, again, this is based on my experience,
I don't really see like a full-on support type team there.
You know, I just see Alon, which is good,
but I mean, I don't see an actual team.
Whereas on Bonk, there are many members
that kind of branch out to, again,
help facilitate with marketing, exchange listings,
funding, marketing marketing all that fun
stuff no i actually totally agree and it's um there's a few tokens in general uh so i talked
to mystic dao and on that space like bonk bonk actual account came in um to run it right and
then you got other launch pads built built on Bonk Fun even. So
there's Bonk Fun and then built on Bonk Fun. On top of that, there's like America Fun. There's so
many different tokens and stuff that are ICM rolling out to Bonk that kind of just feed back
into the ecosystem and generate fees for the token overall. So I think like Bonk is a leverage play on Solana.
And then each of these ecosystem projects on Bonk are like a leverage play on Bonk because
the more fees that they can generate, the more high that Bonk token itself also goes.
So no, that's perfectly said.
And I mean, obviously, you and I, we both trade pump coins too, right?
Like there's a, I feel, there's a, I feel
like there's a difference in the type of tokens we trade. Um, it's a quick gamble. Like I could
log on to luck IO and just spin a wheel and gamble, which I do. Um, I could just buy a shitter sub,
whatever market cap, and then hope it goes up a little bit to make a few soul. Um, so I think
with bonk tokens, I don't get to feel like I'm
necessarily gambling. I feel like it's like I'm trying to find conviction in some longer term
kind of holds and stuff. And obviously, for memes, on that spectrum of it, they're going to just
live and die with attention, right? But for projects that are generating revenue, those are ones that are going to be long-lasting.
I don't know if you follow DCFGod, but the dude seeds literally everything in the space.
He's currently buying every PSA 10 first edition Pokemon card.
And he says, like right now with the current market, where it's at, he says he's not writing checks for seed deals unless the companies are generating revenue.
So that's an interesting piece, right?
And you look at, like, Radar in a DM with Luke.
He said, what did he say?
I'm going to butcher this.
He showed me these bubble maps.
And I was like, oh, it looks like good bubble maps.
On the topic that you're bringing up,
just based off of memes within...
Again, we'll look at it from a layer perspective.
You have Solana, you have Bonk,
and then you have a token, right?
The memes, in general, again,
are basically only last as long as the energy
or marketing is going, right?
Eventually, memes do tend to just fade out.
But with a tech-type project that actually generates volume or revenue,
that's something that's actually sustainable, right? Of course, they can
still fizzle out, but you would have a stronger assumption that they would last longer, right?
As long as everything keeps getting built upon. But from like a layer perspective, you have Solana,
you have Bonk, and then we have Radar. Yes, Radar does have its own ecosystem where there will be fees, right, to actually privatize your transactions.
But because, again, everything was set up literally to a perfect T, there is now something that's called like a flywheel that we actually hear about a lot of times.
But most oftentimes, those flywheels also tend to fail
or again, the exposure or marketing goes like elsewhere.
With what Luke has created is actually amazing
because again, he is able to get radar on Phantom Wallet.
So the actual integration SDK within Phantom Wallet,
he's getting it integrated within the actual Seeker,
Again, this is stuff that's public.
This is all stuff that everybody can find and research.
But what I'm getting to is these different layers, right?
So Solana mobile Seeker, Phantom Wallet integration.
So when people start to privatize their
transactions through radar, radar is generating fees, right? People are going
on to Solana to to privatize stable tokens, to privatize other tokens that
will be implemented within it.
But fees are being generated,
which then goes back to burns, so forth.
But then the big picture here is that Bonk is also generating fees.
Solana is generating fees.
you know what i mean so when you look at it from like a layer perspective
So when you look at it from a Leia perspective,
you actually have radar as a project that's
generating revenue that generates fees for bonk and solano it's literally a perfect ecosystem
and i think once people actually understand that as the overall pitch, that's when you start seeing Wells and all these other crazy tech people kind of supporting it because it doesn't just support a meme.
It doesn't just support a specific project.
It actually supports multiple ecosystems.
And that's pretty crazy if you think about it.
So Kai, I'm going to let you speak.
I saw that Solana retweeted something they did the other day too.
So they're definitely getting movement and motion
and the big players like Sol, like me, Bonk Account, etc.
They're going to want people like Radar to be successful
because it ties on to success their fees the revenue
they generate right bring more people to the ecosystem so that's it all right what's up doing
yeah what's up guys thank you for bringing me up um do you hear me well yeah you're great all right
so first i'll introduce myself um i'm a community moderator in the radar telegram community chat i've been
in radar basically since since the beginning before it was radar as well and i do it for
fear you know i'm not getting paid by look or anything like that i do it just because of my
love for the project the love i have for the community and all that um so yeah after we got out of the way I'll tell you how
I view radar my understanding about it and how I think it works so I I see your radar basically
as a privacy infrastructure for Suwana because you can take any given SPL token it's not just
um you know for a specific
token which has to be you know having some specific proportions you can take any spil token and it can be listed and it can uh people can execute private transfers with it
so the way the whole thing works is basically when you deposit your tokens on shadow pay which is the
platform the pools are deposited to a pool which is linked basically your wallet you have an like
an escrow kind of account and your wallet is linked with it so when you execute a transfer
the amount you transfer goes through the pool goes through the layers then uh look uh
uses some kind of an encryption uh from what i've seen it's uh the best encryption from
uh monero and mimbo wimbo i think it was the other one it's uh he uses bulletproof proofs
He uses bulletproof proofs, Elgamel encryption to hide the amounts as well.
So basically, the way I view Raider is basically like the privacy infrastructure for Suvana.
So it's something very big.
I don't know about any other project which has ever done that.
The Luke built the X402 standard from the ground up so it's uh compatible with the
privacy features he has so yeah you can also hook up ai agents that can make private payments with
the radar platform you have sdks you have apis and on top of everything which already exists you
know the tech is working me I use it all the
time to make private transfers because I don't know if I should say this but I don't pay taxes
yeah all right let's clip let's clip that let's find this guy
all right day joy in 2021 account based in borgaria doesn't pay taxes yep i'm just kidding
yeah no i mean uh yeah i keep most of my money on chain i don't work you know so i i try to
protect myself bro you know i don't feel good because i have all my funds on chain like seriously
i don't work i'm not getting paid you know i have all my money on Chase. So I cannot just, like, if I send somebody money from my wallet,
then my wallet is exposed.
My whole private life, you know, like my...
Kai, Kai, let's just say that,
and this is something that a lot of people take for granted,
We don't want to see all those OnlyFans subs from the wallet, dude.
Privacy is a right. And that's extremely important and something that a lot of people, again, take for granted and don't understand.
But Kai, correct me if I'm wrong, but again, I know that Luke had put out a contest or something for people to basically find a specific
transaction right and nobody has been able to crack it yeah there was like a 20 so bounty or
10 so i'm not sure but it was something like that if if somebody could find the amount and the sender
he would get the bounty and there were some people who got close but
they couldn't figure it out and since then uh luke has added as well more enhanced privacy features
and also basically he took the the feedback he got from the people that were trying to figure
out the transaction and then he made it even harder to figure it out
so yeah so i think so so so on top of this though i think we do need a luke on here to get more like
technical i mean personally what what i like to do is just dumb things down like a thousand percent and my way of explaining radar to anybody that's
new to crypto or again that's that's still a degen or classifies themselves as a degen
every single crypto transaction that you perform
is being recorded on a ledger, which we call Block Explorer.
And there's a lot of, again, there's a lot of privacy-based projects out there
that try to hide what people see visually on that Block Explorer
or away from that but somebody that has technical
knowledge would be able to still figure out those types of transactions because they most likely use
some type of like an api or a third-party provider where it's traceable right you can find it exactly
yeah but loop has developed something that is off that actually takes it off chain
to where you will not be able to figure out where that transaction went or where it's going
yeah it's end-to-end encrypted that's what i meant when i said uh he built the for example the x402
standard from the ground up because usually when people say oh yes yes we do privacy for x402 and so on they
don't actually do privacy for x402 because they use a facilitator which has to unwrap their
transaction to actually prove it so it's not actually private you know but uh think of uh
radar as the facilitator itself so radar doesn't need to unwrap the transaction to prove it because they use the zk proofs which
are in you know i'm not technical i'm not 100 sure how it works but yeah dude i think uh now
as as someone who doesn't chain launch tokens and there's a few people right now that literally
just chain launch tokens day in day out um i guess
i launched one token i launched uh what if on a spaces with 55 people and i bought everything from
my my main wallet right i think about like 11 shielded it on the timeline at 40 000 market cap
um just so that everyone could get an entry and i'm always going to keep that 11%. So Berlin as a, as someone who chain launches
token, but not you, I know you don't chain launch token. As someone, if you hypothetically chain
launch tokens, like some people do, do you think they would use radar to hide the funds and just
chain, link tons of wallets and get supplied at not F of bubble maps or what? Like, I feel like
I'm not saying to bundle, but I'm saying like, not all bundles can be bad um obviously if you have some big linked shit on bubble maps and you
have some bad actors that are just going to dump everything on you um but do you think people use
radar to launch tokens hopefully the right way so if they control supply they're not just fucking
people up they can control supply and still make bubble maps look clean so there's different types of
clients or customers that can use radar right so when we look at it we could see it from again the
most basic individual that just again understands their right to privacy that just wants to be private.
An individual that wants to launch tokens using radar.
I mean, the sole purpose of doing that would just be so that people don't know who that developer theoretically is. I've seen this space all the times whenever
or deploys a token within PumpFun,
they immediately start saying,
oh my god, it was sniped.
That wasn't me that bundled it.
I think it's just bullshit
The ticket was just so good.
From my point of view, from what I've seen in this space,
any developer that deploys a token that is bundled or sniped,
it's because they did it or because they have a team that was aware of it
and that's why it was bundled or sniped.
I mean, there's no ways around it.
People are just used to trusting and believing the bullshit, put it that way.
I think, again, what Radar is for is, and we'll use, let's just have you as an example, right?
If you're going to Luck.io and you're gambling, you could use Radar audited or if they want to find out who their
users are theoretically they would not be able to figure out who you are unless they then require
some type of kyc protocol they wouldn't know how much money i've won, you're saying. Because I only learned.
If you used your Coinbase wallet or an exchange that had KYC at the start,
and then you transferred funds to any type of platform that would then reverse look up any of your transactions,
obviously then they would be able to figure out who you are if they wanted to.
I think the real beauty in this, again, is looking at it from,
and I'll add an additional aspect to this,
from the layer perspective.
Again, I always want people to think about this as an ecosystem.
You have Solana, you have Bonk, and then you have Radar. Radar itself will be able to make your stables and other tokens private. So you're privatizing those. And while you do that, you generate fees for Radar, which can be used for buybacks, burns, so forth. But you also generate fees for the bunk ecosystem.
You have Solana, you have Bonk, and then you have Radar.
And you're bringing people from possible other blockchains
into Solana for this type of technology.
And of course, then Solana is using the gas fees and whatnot, right?
But the other big part is Radar,
or what Luke has also provided us publicly, is that he will be offering us Visa
debit cards. So in the crypto world, we're always looking at stuff to do with on-chain,
right? So bringing funds into crypto. But oftentimes, nobody ever actually talks about
offloading it, or then how to actually
convert back into cash to actually use your your crypto right that's usually a topic or discussion
that's often dropped so you most likely only have the ability to transfer funds to a centralized
exchange which requires kyc to then withdraw funds into your checking account
or to then, I guess, to store it there. You could always go the route of maybe going to like a local
store or trying to do a transaction with crypto. But where I see things going and what Luke has
provided us is, again, the ability to have a Visa debit card for
offloading so now you could actually go to any retail store or pay your bills
theoretically by using your crypto which is then considered privatized so I
wouldn't actually say I mean paying your, paying your bills with a private debit card doesn't make sense because obviously that could link back to you.
But having the ability to go to Best Buy or to buy something within a local store with basically as cash, I think that's a unique value proposition.
Yeah, I was going to say there's so much to unwrap with this i guess i don't know
i i just don't know anyone else on solana doing that you know that's why i keep proposing for
everybody to think about this not as just radar have it in your your mindset that this is an actual entire ecosystem. So going back to if you
want to look at it, and I'll keep saying this over and over and over again, just so I hope that people
can understand this and then keep kind of like rephrasing it. Solana, Bank, Radar. And then from
there, we then have Visa debit cards. So all these fees are being generated.
This huge flywheel is being activated.
And then that's when I just see, well, saying, okay, well, I have my USDC, which is stable, in a Coinbase account.
I see things in the crypto world where people, again, they're going to know where my transactions are or who I am. Why don't I actually put this on like a side wallet or then nobody actually knows who the hell
this is whatsoever. So now that's there. And now if I want to spend my money
from like a digital cash perspective, right? So like a privatized anonymous debit card you could just go to a
store and just buy stuff without any transactional history now while then generating fees for radar
bonk solano yeah i want to learn we're gonna have to get luke for like the deeper dive but
i'm drinking the kool-aid i feel like this is no seriously this is actually like again this this this conversation that we're having
isn't hypothetical also by the way i mean this is all stuff that's live that you that people are
doing right now so this isn't also like a roadmap or here's what's coming soon. People are privatizing their transactions now.
The Visa thing is coming whenever he decides to release it. But the privatization of transactions is live right now.
Yeah, I think that's actually really important because, I mean, I send stuff all the time for random payments to different people for different things.
all the time for random payments to different people for different things and then the dumb
part is is if i send someone like a gift or send someone something for art or send someone something
just as a thank you or to help them out or whatever and then we share the same tokens
now it links us on chain in that map to to having those same tokens so like it's that can be really
frustrating because it's like i don't want
to f up something's bubble map or whatever too because it's going to link us as supply and then
they're gonna like let's say they do some shady shit and now i'm linked to that person even um
it just would be you know super annoying so i could actually see myself using this to pay people
out when i when i do send send money anywhere um But we've seen that with Marcel, with these
Cabal groups, these KOLs, these larger accounts, they'll
have giveaways, right? And they'll say, provide us
your Solana address. And they'll send
somebody $5, $10 or something
and we've seen it where they would then take
that Solana and actually deploy a token
and then bundle it up and it
looks like Marcel launched it.
So yeah, there's people that you are trying to do the right thing by helping out by making
But then again, in the crypto space, people want to think about what they could then do
for themselves out of greed.
And they'll go and do something to take advantage of what you just did.
So this is a great way to unlink that and be done with it.
Yeah, I had a guy, I mean, someone on Discord posed as someone else.
I felt like the oldest trick in the book where they're like,
hey, Harrow, I don't have my thing with me right now.
Can you send me X amount of ETH?
And I just saw the PFP and I was in a hurry, distracted, busy.
And it's like, yeah, man, I got you.
And I just sent it to him, right?
And then I was linked in some chain thing.
And I got a message from Zach and was like, hey, do you know who you sent this to?
And it's like, yeah, this is,
you know what I mean? So it just, it's kind of crazy how, and then I, after you, you know,
I don't know if anyone else has been scammed that way, but that was like one of the oldest
tricks in the book of having someone DM you that you think someone else, and then you don't verify
and check. And it's like, fuck, I just sent this person an ETH or whatever. Um, so yeah,
that one's pretty shitty, but totally totally agree i feel like this is super
super useful um i'm really excited to talk to luke i'm gonna reach out to him and see if we
can reschedule the the space overall um just so we can actually talk to him for like the full hour
and then see where he's at but we'll cap it off here um I appreciate you guys coming up to talk. Berlin, I forgot that you actually put me on radar,
literally sub 600,000 market cap or whatever.
So it's cool to have you come up and speak,
Yeah, I think it's honestly cool
that we still have the space without Luke
to kind of dive into what the tech was.
I'm sure next time he'll love to get into the technical aspects of it,
but what I like to do is just dumb the shit down, man.
You got to basically explain it to someone that's new into the crypto space.
It's just you have a right to privacy.
Whether or not you understand that or not try it and always just like protect yourself
within this crypto space that's it yeah yeah i totally agree well hey appreciate y'all showing
up um sorry we didn't have luke from the team here um head dev etc but we'll get it rescheduled
um there's a lot to unpack here still, I think.
So I appreciate you stepping up and speaking.
And hope everyone has a good rest of your day,
And next Spaces with Bong Fun is going to be on Monday.
So we'll look to reschedule Radar pretty soon, too.