Projects
![]()
No projects found
Investors
New
DAO Treasuries
DATs
Lend / Borrow APRs
Chains
Categories
Spaces
Looks good Sendit - Bonk Szn Ep. 11 w/ Multiplier
Recorded: Sept. 22, 2025 Duration: 0:47:12Space Recording
Short Summary
Excitement builds as the Multiplier platform gears up for its public launch, promising a new token and strategic partnerships within the Bonk ecosystem. With innovative features like yield farming and a focus on micro-cap trading, the project aims to drive growth and enhance user engagement in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Hello, doing a mic check here can you guys hear me
can't hear you you have to yell louder all right let me switch to a different pair oh no
i i could really hear you oh okay all right cool yeah i was just i was just trying to have you scream.
Don't worry about it. Let me have a few friends so they can hop in.
I'm going to add multipliers as a, well,
I have a multiplier to speaker too, even though if no one's talking on that
account, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Oh shit.
I see a bunch of familiar faces. Wow.
It's cause you're popular loris
ah stop it i'm just like except i can't tell you anymore with your new pfp like i just like who is
that guy i i got you know for some reason i just i just i couldn't connect with my ladies anymore
i haven't sold it or anything but it's just like you know sometimes you uh step into a different
phase of your life right you just a little bit of aesthetic change.
You just stop being a white dude saying the N-word on Twitter the whole time or what?
That was the plan.
Hey, is there any...
You said Gritkold is going to come on.
Yeah, Gritkold is going to join as well.
No, you're good.
I just want to make sure that it wasn't...
So I can't read whatever lettering that is of this cat that requested,
but it's either Chinese or Japanese or some type of yeast.
And I didn't know if that was great cult in Chinese.
So that's all right.
Yeah, he's going to come on in a second.
I think we can get started.
Wow, there's quite a few people here.
Let me send this link to a few people.
No, you're good.
We usually have about 80,000 that show up and listen to the spaces.
Amazing.
If we get anything out of that, you suck.
We're going to get more.
We're going to get more.
No, we usually are about this much.
Hey, even if it was only you and me, I would just talk.
I'd still enjoy the conversation.
I'd actually probably,
I probably would like it better if we didn't have all these other retards here
with us.
Greg called me today and he sent in a request to be a speaker.
Okay, cool.
Accept.
All right.
So what is your new PFP?
It's a PFP.
That is not a docs.
That is Douglas MacArthur.
I'm in war mode right now because we're shipping the public release pretty soon.
Just had to adopt a new identity.
I might move back to my milady a little bit later down the line.
But right now it's founder mode. You just have to make sure that you push out a good release to make people happy.
Hey, Grit.
What's up, Grit says hello so um you guys have the best new logo lauris i've known your your i mean
for what over a year now maybe two years and whatever this new i think it's been two years
yeah this new logo is perfect yeah well it's been I've done, like, four or five on-chain product releases by now.
This is, like, the latest iteration.
For some of them, we've used different accounts.
But for this one, this is, like, the old, old account.
We, you know, kind of, like, just refresh the branding for what we're doing next.
next really excited about it and apparently a lot of other people are too do you know that one of my
Really excited about it.
And apparently a lot of other people are, too.
number one reasons to buy a token is if the logo looks cool and like i changed my pfp so there's
this uh you know aster right yeah of course there's aster's mascot and i was like man i really
like the look of that so i changed my pfp as well to be kind of like the MassVal type of vibe. So with Multiplier, how cool your logo is, I already can tell the token's not live, right?
That there's going to be a token.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
There will be a token down the line.
We're definitely, you know, explain everybody here in this space what we're actually trying
to do here.
There will be a token in the future.
We're not really rushing to get it out unless market conditions go absolutely
parabolic.
We like building
cool experiences that people remember for a long time.
Some of you may recall a product that we had on blast back in the day where
somebody won five
Oyster Perpetuals in a row and it went absolutely viral.
So we've kind of like been building out like these kinds of cool experiences
on chain.
And this is by far the most sophisticated product that we've built.
And we're super excited to get it aligned with the bonk fun and reading
community here.
You remember that?
I remember that.
I was, that was another fanata.
And then I, um, you, you have like free spins or something.
I can't remember what it was called, but there was free spins,
and all of our community liked it.
I ended up putting some ETH into it on blast or whatever that was.
That was really funny.
You gave out tons of watches.
Yeah, I think in total, we gave out like $20 million of prizes out
in about two and a half months, which to be fair was complete insanity.
We were a pretty small team back then, like six or seven people.
And from that whole experience, like we've actually never raised like an institutional
around.
We've mostly been one of those rare teams in crypto that have been, you know, trying
to deliver experiences to generate revenue and like make our users happy.
So like Multiplier is, i'd have to say like the biggest
extension or acceleration of of our thesis as a team which is embracing hyper gamification
and what i mean by that is you know look if you look at crypto what like what are memes memes are
mostly like prediction market for attention now Now people have, you know, more generic or specialized prediction markets, you have like 10 or 30 or 100 per dexas getting launched
every minute. What we're trying to do is how can we like, take more traditional like speckle of
experiences and make them do cool shit with the market, right. So with the old with the product
you use back in the day, it's been almost two years now.
We basically created
like a spinny wheel gacha game.
Now gacha games
are actually popular, right?
You have Pokemon cards,
exotic card WAs.
I think we were actually
the first team to build
like a gacha,
like a gacha,
gacha style game on chain
for exotic card WAs.
We launched that.
We could push the price
of other tea collections up.
People would watch us,
cars, a lot of cool shit.
Gachas are my downfall downfall yeah they make money um there are definitely some great teams out there um our focus is a little bit different but you know i can just
dig into that in in a few minutes uh and explain how we want to add value to the Bok ecosystem? Yeah, let's start with, so with gotchas,
I played this game called Genshin Impact,
and I think in 2021, when I did pretty well,
I think I ended up spending like $120,000
in a one-month sitting on Genshin Impact,
because I wanted every single,
each had to get five stars of everything.
So needless to say, I stopped playing Genshin Impact
because I got way too addicted to gotchas.
And right now, actually, as we're talking, I'm gambling on Luck.io and just spinning wheels for, I don't know.
I have a problem, but it's really fun.
Anyway, Lars, let's start from the beginning.
So let's introduce everyone to who you are.
So you've been in the space for a long time.
Let's get a little bit about your background specifically.
And then from there, we'll dive into like,
what Multiplier is, why you're going to Bonk,
and everything else exciting going on.
Sure, and of course, I'll invite, you know,
Greg Caller to talk about himself too.
So hilariously enough, I actually like,
I'm an economist by trade and I worked in banking
for a while before I, you know,
just became an on-chain on-chain degen um outside of products that we've been shipping i haven't had a job in
five years just trying to ship products with with cool people with with with cool partners and we've
been making money along the way and what we like our team has consistently shipped like a bunch of
products we were like in nft5 offering fractional exposures, though Adam from Tokenworks is definitely like a better implementation on that.
But for the past, I would have to say a year and a half, we've been building out these kind of gambling experiences.
Right. And we're a good team, extremely amazing engineers.
Like our head of engineering was, he owned the entire backend of Mangrove Markets, which is a pretty sophisticated
Dex. Doing a little bit worse nowadays because Uniswap Labs stole their idea for hooks. That
was like the whole boat for Mangrove. But I'm super happy that Daniel's with us because he's
literally like a top 50 engineering space. So that's why we can ship fast as a team.
And what we're shipping on Solano, we kind of like see this as you know our canonical
launch is um to anybody listening here what we're basically providing you is the opportunity to hop
in and to the multiply portal and you play initially like more traditional gambling style
games but every single time that you win you get rewarded in spot market tokens.
How does that actually work?
So every single time that you win,
and also sometimes when you lose,
we buy those tokens for you
and send them straight to your wallet.
So you can hold them, dump them,
do whatever you want with them.
It's almost like we're a prime brokerage
or a gambling enabled hedge fund trading on your
behalf.
And what we accomplish from that is like here, if you came in and played one of the games
for one of the tokens, let's say you scored a $10,000 win, we'd buy those $10,000 for
you.
Let's say you spent a thousand bucks and got a $10,000.
So that's a $10,000 position and spot market token.
When you win, we buy those tokens for you.
And that kind of like accomplishes three cool things.
First of all, it's almost like hyper leverage, right?
We kind of like subsidize,
massively subsidize your spot market entry,
your entry price into that asset.
So you can turn 10 bucks into a hundred.
And if the token goes up you know
those 100 bucks might turn into 10 000 but because we're constantly buying tokens from the market
we're adding buy pressure to on-chain assets so imagine like 100 people come in and you know they
you know wager a couple thousand bucks somebody's to lose, but you never leave empty-handed. We're not going to die in the details right now. But every single win from these games constantly
ends up buying tokens on the market and transfers them straight to users. So if a user spends a
hundred bucks, wins a thousand, we buy a thousand, right? So what we do is kind of like how we frame
ourselves is the people's market maker. Just by having fun and gambling you that money doesn't just like circulate you know insularly or go into hands of a casino
all the money that you end up spending most of it ends up getting injected back into the market
and in this case you know the bond ecosystem so? Yeah, it's like kind of like the whole thesis is what if we can take like something that's negative sum and turn it positive sum, right?
As a user, anybody listening here, let me – I'll just finish this off before I go to the last question.
So it's like you gamble.
You win spot market tokens.
You win them.
You can do whatever you want with them.
You own them.
We constantly make tokens go parabolic.
We tested the system before.
You can farm XP.
You can win jackpots.
Every single time that you lose, you get a cashback.
You have rough lengths.
If you're nice enough, initially we manually curate these tokens.
So if you want everybody to gamble into your bags and for your port to go up you can let us know that that's something we're
going to be able to do in the initial stages but yeah it's like you know it's a gamification layer
for for for on-chain trading right maybe you're not good at um you know trading shitters but you
love gambling and if you come in you can gamble shitters, but because a lot of people are gambling for those shitters, they're going to massively increase in value. So we might actually
make gambling positive some because those spot market tokens almost act like lottery tickets.
So I'm going to pause here for a second, happy to answer any questions, but this is something
we're going to be releasing to the public very, very soon. That's so cool. So as someone who's
been gambling heavily on luck for
the past, I guess, four months now, doing all the types of games, when I win, I win in USD or
sole, I guess it doesn't matter, and then I can withdraw sole to my wallet. One question I have,
so let's hypothetically say Sendit is the token that someone wins. Like if I'm a token or want to get involved and I'm on the bond ecosystem,
what do I have to do with multipliers so that I'm a token that gets mixed
into that pot of winnings?
That's a great question.
So initially we're narrowing it down to just five tokens featured at any
period of time, but we'll be, you know,
rotating those tokens out because we want everybody to win um honestly just have to talk to us just you know talk either great or talk
to me or paying anybody on the bong team or even you we can get you featured you don't have to pay
anything you don't have to do anything we what we just want to do is you know take this gambling
liquidity and almost act like a philosopher's stone and turn it
into spa market volume so everybody's bags go up. And that's the beautiful thing about
the system. You don't have to use multiplier to benefit off a multiplier. You just have
to hold a coin that's being featured on multiplier and it will probably go up in value. What will
happen later down the line though, I'd have to say six to seven weeks from now, we're
going to make that system permissionless. So anybody will be able to hop into the application and participate in an auction. We're still figuring out the
mechanics, but you'll basically be participating in an auction where the token, let's say you hold
the token, it can be send it. So the send the community can stay cash, didn't lose it, didn't
have to pay for anything, or maybe our need of governance token leader down the line and the more it's staked the more value state the higher up in the leaderboard
and the higher you're up in the leaderboard the more of that gambling volume will be directed to
your asset so we want to make this permissionless and we also want like to add a metagame on top of
the games right so a good way to think about it is that's almost like an affiliate market for
on-chain volume right so if you have a bunch of volume that's coming in, that's arbitrary,
right? It's arbitrary. And you can take like, let's say 10 million and buy pressure. And if
you win the options, you can take that 10 million and direct it towards your token.
Yeah, that's sick. We think it's pretty sick.
So we'll get send it in that loop of one of the tokens featured because I could see that. That'd
be so fun because I mean, whenever I win money on luck,
I just kind of leave it in there and let it kind of recycle.
But the cool thing with this I'm noticing is you can,
more and more buy pressure is gonna get added to it
if people win or I guess you said even if they lose,
they could get tokens.
And then it's just, you're gambling plus you're gambling
that the token's gonna go up in price
so you're getting more money.
Yep, exactly.
Yeah, so it's a gamification layer.
It's actually a pretty complicated product, but we're trying to make it as left curve as possible from a UX perspective.
So anybody like a whale can come in, a casual can come in and play.
And I think each potential user persona, anybody sitting here could probably find some way of
gaining value from the product maybe just like gambling maybe you want your coin to go up maybe
you're a whale who wants to you know inject liquidity with some assets all of those like
use cases and a bunch of different edge cases are unlocked by what we're building here and so far we
haven't seen anybody do what we're doing here with And so far we haven't seen anybody do
what we're doing here with Multiplier in the market at all.
This is something completely new.
Yeah, I wonder if I'm gonna be able to talk about it
because of my relationship with Lockheed.
I'll be like, sorry, you can't.
But I'm like, it sounds so sick
that I wanna actually use it.
So maybe I'll low key use it and talk about it
because I post a different Lock video every single day.
So tell me about why Bonk?
Like obviously you have some choices and options here,
but you're going into the Bonk ecosystem pretty hard.
I think there were a lot of pathways to think about it.
Like once we, you know,
we knew that we were going to do the big GTM on Solana,
like at the start of the year, like we were already primed for that.
You know, it was a little bit more muddy. The starting area had like all the Meteora launch pads, like even like Believe, Moonshot, et cetera. But ultimately, you know, from my experience as a
builder, you really want to work with people who you can trust and who are willing to provide the
necessary support for a product to go from zero to one in distribution.
So we just took a lot of time to build a relationship with the Radium team.
And, you know, the Radium team and Bonk team, they're very aligned.
So I think that partnership just made a tremendous amount of sense.
Additionally, Bonk is still focused on, the Bonk ecosystem is actually focused on on-chain trading, on micro cap trading.
If we're looking at pump, then, you know, they're kind of like trying to go into a completely different meta.
A meta that I'm not going to comment on, but I think a few people have been disappointed over the past week. we believe that you know shitters meme coins regardless of whether 200k or 30 million um
they're probably one of the best forms of you know financialized lottery tickets in the world
we all know people who have made a tremendous amount of money from that uh what we're doing
is providing a different type of ux for people to interact with the smart good so if they're
shitty traders you can still gamble right and you know the odds everything's transparent to you so you know the bank ecosystem um i really really respect what
they've done i think it's massively community aligned and there's a bunch of great coins that
i think we can really help and uh sent to walhalla so hopefully that will already come true over the
next month yeah that's perfect grit do you have anything to add before I go into another question?
No, I think Loris has a very kind of comprehensive
view on things,
and he explained it very excellently.
And yeah, working with a bonk team
has been pretty great.
It's been very, like, helpful.
I've been in the space a number of years
being as a builder
and, like, working with a lot of early stage companies.
And yeah, like, And yeah, the relationship
that we have with Radium and Bonk has been
excellent.
And yeah, that's all I can add for now.
Yeah,
so what I like about this, Loris, is
obviously I've been
hyper bullposting Bonk
and Bonk ecosystem, and
obviously
they're actually coming back and gaining some market share and I think
that this is going to be really cool because it's going to reward a lot of the PBE type mindset and
community on Bonk and it's going to keep a lot of that capital from people using multiplier
in the Bonk ecosystem. So I guess another question is is it for now is it primarily going to be Bonk
or are you going to expand out of Bonk and make it anything on Solana?
Or what's the plan?
So it's only going to be Bonk tokens at the very start.
Once we make the system permissionless, it's permissionless, right?
But our idea or our hope is that we're like a junior partner coming in,
obviously a smaller team with less Aura, and we can add to the value chain in our own way and help the Bonk
ecosystem and all the affiliate associated tokens capture more market share volume.
That's kind of like how we see it.
I think when you partner with somebody or try to add value, just go full convection,
rather than optionality max.
So we're convection maxing in Bonk. And we hope it's going to work out. We think it's going to
work out. So I really think, I think it will. So I'm in, man, I'm in way too many community
group chats because I'm actively trying to support every community building on Bonk. I think
it's really fun to see what people build and all the conviction. And this is episode about accounting, but 11. And I have 31 episodes kind of booked out through the
first week of November, right? So there's a ton of, and a lot of those are two people talking at
the same time. So there's a ton of communities building on Bonk. And as someone who's also,
I guess, building on Bonk, it seems like one of the difficult things that's
kind of common across the board is small teams and usually CTO teams don't really have the funds.
Their token doesn't really get the volume to get creative rewards where they need to,
and they don't really have enough to pay for a market maker, right? So like for Sendit, for
example, market maker could cost upwards of 10,000 per month in addition to having a treasury of a few hundred thousand dollars, etc.
And a lot of teams don't really have that.
So where, especially if they're a CTO team or don't really have that much capital to begin with, this gives them a good option to have some of that market making.
this gives them a good option to have some of that market making
and it gets those shitty traders,
which I'd probably be lumped into the group of shitty traders,
opportunity to kind of not really have an index,
but like just kind of like some slops,
don't have them of potential number go up tokens, if you will.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's what we call the people's market maker.
Like there's, you know, you have the end user who we call it the people's market maker like there's you know
you have the end user who we try to provide a fun experience for different forms of incentive
farming but of course the whole like cherry on top is that because we're constantly buying these
tokens for everybody playing the platform we're adding a bunch of buy pressure right so we don't
hold inventory the moment you win we execute an on-chain transaction. That's very visible in the product, right?
It's like you see the market receipts when interacting with it.
But when we think about multiplier as a system, it's like we add value to Bonk Fund as a launchpad.
We add value to Radium as market infrastructure.
And, of course, we drive volume and buy pressure into Bonk tokens.
Yeah, it's huge.
Yes, we're the people's market maker, right?
Obviously, at the start, the curations are manual, but afterwards, they're going to be permissionless.
And, you know, anybody can direct with your friends if you, you know, cabal together.
And if you win those auctions a little bit later down the line, you'll be able to direct the gameplay volume with the tokens that you want you know, you want to pop
almost like curve
bribes in a gamified way
if that makes sense
and you can support the bonk ecosystem
of potentially your token by gambling in general
like this month I have
$383,000
wagered
it's like if you could have put that into luck
to wager, or not luck, sorry,
multiplier to wager,
it could have actually gone into also buying tokens
as well for a lot of the ecosystem.
You're good to speak up whenever you want to,
by the way.
You could talk over Laura, so you won't care.
Of course.
Yeah, I mean, just to add on the point
regarding the curation system,
I think that's going to become even more important as we go on as an industry.
I mean, one thing I'm noticing is the kind of recognition for CTO teams.
CTO teams can claim a token and they can get rewards as well. So I think with the curation system, when it comes live, it will require and recognize active and participating communities.
So you can have a bundle of tokens, but if you have no community, it won't really be upvoted as much.
And that's one thing that I think is very PVE.
Building in a way where bag, you know, bag holders
and people who actually, you know, bag work, you know, get rewarded in that sense.
And, you know, attention and liquidity will get directed to them, you know, once they
are kind of curated.
And I'm assuming you'll have a way to not make it so that they can pay someone X amount
of money to just go in and thumbs up it and then have it be just a total.
No, no, no. There'll be a, there'll be a a cost but it won't be like you have to pay for the volume
uh sibling if you want to spend a lot of money sibling you could do it
but ultimately yeah it's probably not worth it yeah it's probably not going to be worth it
uh we're still kind of like designing the auction mechanics we just really want to get the product
out first so like generate you know the volume uh prove ourselves out prove our prove out the
value proposition and then we'll figure out the curation system i'm so excited to use this you
know what's really fun is i i don't really talk about anything that i don't actually genuinely
enjoy or use um now i lie actually there's a couple of private investments where I do have
to just tweet about them, even though it's like, I think they're cool, but it's like, I don't
understand it. It's like a foreign language to me, but I'll tweet about it anyway, because I
need to over my vesting period. But what gets me really excited is when I feel like I want to
actually talk about a project and genuinely use it. And I feel like multiplier is something that
I could literally talk about every day, multiple times a day until people meet the word multiplier for me.
That, you know, that's probably the best compliment that we can get as a team, guys.
You know, people understand what we're trying to accomplish.
Yeah, and that's why Send It will be so good on there, Loras.
I can't wait, man.
That's going to be so cool.
You guys are already on the list.
I know.
You guys are already on the list. Hyper know. You guys are already on the list.
Hyper gamification.
How do you even say that?
Hyper gamification.
Gamification.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gamification.
Gamification.
Grant and I have a bull posting about hyper gamification all summer.
It's funny.
We kind of like, Grant initially coined that term.
And then we were like bull posting together and posting long form.
And then I just see like a bunch of like tier one vcs like using that term on random tweets i'm like holy
shit you can literally say things tweet things and then it has memetic mind share across an
entire industry it's like a really funny thing to observe you know what's really cool is every
community is gonna want so i guess there's a couple options here um and maybe you can let me know the path you're doing so um option one i guess is you could charge
different communities to be it's not listed but tokens are not multiplier or they could each have
like maybe their own ref link so they try to sign up their community to then multiply what's the
route you think you're going to take all All we want is, if we feature you,
try to help us get players, right?
That's all we ask for.
I think it's like a very fair value exchange
with everybody, with the Radiant team,
Bong team, and the token communities.
We feature you until the curation system
or the auction system goes live.
All we want you to help us do is capture more volume.
And it's a very fair trade that's beneficial for you
because the more volume you get, we get,
the more volume gets injected
as buy pressure into your tokens, right?
That's all we want.
We're not looking to monetize the supply side,
just get in your whales, get in your users,
get in your community, introduce them to the product
and just help us succeed and kick off the flywheel.
Because I think once the flywheel kicks off, this will go paramount. So hypothetically, when that
when would you prefer a community start getting active to be posting that stuff to get their
community involved in in multiplier? When is the official rollout launch date, etc. So people can
be prepared. So we're going to announce that shortly.
And it's very, very close.
The public release is less than two weeks away.
Nice.
But we just need to confirm the specific date.
We've been doing closed alpha testing.
Oh, and another interesting fact.
One of our partners is going to be Fraser
Face K.
So one of the games on the platform
is his own creator game.
So he has a rather large
switch audience.
So if you are featured
with a multiplier,
somebody that has 10 million
Instagram followers,
well,
you know, that person will be playing multiplier and
winning your coins, which is pretty amazing for brand awareness.
And we have a bunch of other creators lined up who'll be launching their own games.
And in that kind of way, we're really trying to bridge, not in the pump fun way, not from
like a coin perspective, but trying to bridge a little bit of, you know, traditional entertainment
with on-chain, trenching and gambling, right?
So we can push a lot of distribution
and also brand awareness to token communities.
This isn't bullshit.
You can check our timeline, official partner,
and he's gonna be streaming once we launch.
So we're gonna be bringing in more creators, more games,
and just making sure that we pick off the flywheel
to add value.
This sounds like a flywheel on top of a flywheel on top of a flywheel.
Like, genuinely sounds really exciting.
We're really excited to finally kick it off.
You know, I'd like to, and I guess let's talk about, and sorry, I'm bouncing around.
So I know eventually there's going to be a token.
So one thing that I get asked about a lot, and I just referenced luck because that's who I'm gambling with endlessly right
now. Right. It's like, Hey, are they going to do a token?
Is my volume I'm putting towards this platform going to be worthwhile?
And you already know from, from the past that I love to farm overall.
So is there going to be a farming aspect,
like an airdrop farm for a multiplier token for people playing or, or.
Yes. There's's there's literally
an xp farming bar i don't want to give away any details as we're structuring very cool things
very unexpected things on the back end to make sure that's worth everybody's while
but once again i think you know fully full blast straight on airdrops, they kill communities pretty fast.
I think the cool dynamic or dialect that here that we'll do is probably aphasial airdrop hyperliquid style.
So have different types of seasons, but you get your tokens once we actually do launch a token.
No date right now, but we know which part of the cycle we're in.
What about racer style
well i could have actually done that multiple times in my life but i'm too naive to do that
i just want to keep on building because i don't know what to do with my life but it would be nice
to live in thailand um yeah a few months but i'm not going to do that no but the cool thing about
this like think about like if we like you have that curation system live, they can arbitrarily direct volume from the gameplay
in the spot market tokens. Once you get the airdrop as a user, right? Right. Once you get
the airdrop as a user, you can sell those tokens, or you can use the tokens that you've gotten from
the airdrop to participate in that auction system.
Right.
That's the cool thing about it.
Like that, the token powers the auction system.
The more of those tokens that you stake, the more voting power you have to direct the gameplay liquidity,
the gameplay volume and a buy pressure into tokens.
So that's something we're very well aware of.
And we want the biggest spenders on the platform to be the ones in control of where the liquidity goes.
So for all the whales listening here, yes, if you come in and spend an insane amount of money,
you will be able to control where the liquidity flows.
You will control the spice.
Well, and you can even, you can gamble on your own so i guess for um like reflinks for
example so on again sorry i keep on bringing up luck but for luck i'm like a top five affiliate
next there's like ansem and then picas and a couple others so like if i prefer like would i
could i potentially have a reflink where i could refer people to and then that directly affects
i guess it depends on whatever
bonk tokens they're going to buy or bid on um you'll just get you'll just get 10 of if you share a reflink for anybody listening here and everybody will have an access to refline uh i will
a moment in time but you just get 10 of the fees that we make right so it's not even dependent on
the tokens we just if you help us get users we will reward you in a very fair way, right? So it isn't even conditional
on the tokens that people win, you just get a part of our fees.
Yeah, that's it. Cool. Well, I'm excited. So it sounds like coming out in the next couple
weeks, and that's kind of going to be phase one and then it sounds like there's a whole phase two coming shortly after um probably just right in time just now
you mentioned the streamer and this is do you i guess does that have anything to do with i know
bonk announced uh like a kick relationship early september i guess is this streamer on kick or
they won't see twitch are you going to try to feature any more streamers that are specific to
to Twitter or to kick with kind of bonks pivot in with the kick integration?
I will pass off to Mike Degret, but the kick announcement came after
the deal was already closed.
Yes.
There'll be more creators on board, but you know, I'll just pass off to Mike
know i'll just pass off to mike right here so he can like provide a lay of the land
Degret here so he could like provide a lay of the land.
yeah so we got in touch with phase um before that was announced and before we kind of knew of it
um but we are talking to quite a few very large streamers um who kind of want to partner with us
on a very deep level and like what they really own with us and you know what we did kind of get out of it
is digital real estate where you know it's constantly earning money they're constantly
showing they're like um providing attention and you know through the game volume to like specific
tokens um so in in that aspect it's it's very like i said you know earlier pve and that's one of our core thesis when we're kind of building things is how can this benefit the most amount of people and provide value to the larger system?
So that's the approach we're kind of doing.
And regarding the creators, yeah, we've got like quite a lot kind of lined up.
But we, again, as Laura said earlier, we're a very small team.
We're very scrappy.
We are definitely like all very talented. And, you know, we're a very small team. We're very scrappy.
We are definitely all very talented.
And we've got great leadership as well.
But some things kind of take time.
We want to do things very dutifully.
And with crypto, you don't want to rush things either.
To be fair, I'll only mention one thing. I think our team size is above the median seed stage team in crypto right uh we are scrappy because we move fast we're not i wouldn't have to say we're that small
it's just that if you check out the application you like it doesn't look like some generic
prediction market doesn't look like some generic token market. It doesn't look like some generic token trading terminal. A lot of craftsmanship, a lot of complex user flows come into terms of delivering the best possible user experience
to every single stakeholder of the system without, you know, while still honoring certain
time constraints.
I'm just saying it's a lot about trust, too.
Like, I mean, I'm close with DCF God.
I know he ceded and put a lot of trust in you and previous projects.
I've seen a lot of your previous projects and I get a lot of, well,
not a lot of well enough, I guess each month of different terminals or this and
that to check out and try. And it's like,
I'm too nervous to even click on any links, you know,
but seeing like your name stamped on multiplier and your team's name,
like that's all the confidence I need that it's like safe, secure.
And, and obviously your close connection with Bonk and Radium. And I think that's going to confidence i need that it's like safe secure and and obviously your
close connection with bonk and radium and i think that's going to give a lot of people enough
confidence to to get going with it right away as well right it's not just some unknown group of
people that just kind of came out of the blue and started doing things so yeah reputation doesn't
matter and you know every single time as a builder in the space or as a developer, there's always, at certain inflection points, there's like two roads you can go down on.
I'm happy that I always made the right choice.
That's why you swapped the Milady PFP to warm out, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had to adopt a slightly different aura for different environmental circumstances.
I like it.
I wonder if NFTs are
going to ever come back. I looked up
Google the
other day, and I was like, huh, this looks cool.
I want to get one of them. It's like 4,000 soul.
I was like, maybe I won't get one.
I'm just going to
not get one of them.
I really like what Adam is.
Adam and I, we know each other in real life
um great developer he launched token work so punk strategy doodle strategy all that stuff
i think in terms of that that is that's actually kind of like this reflexive
really interesting reflexive mechanism that's finally adding some, you know, action, some motion to NFT markets.
Also, obviously, clear helps people clear their inventory after being holding your bags for
for several several years. But, you know, I think like the PFP era, I don't think it's,
I don't think we're ever going to go back to that. I think we have a couple of consolidated communities like Pudgies, M'Ladies.
You still have your punks, whatever.
Iteration, whether it's V1 or whatever,
that holding either as an asset or as a sense of belonging.
If I look back on, I'd have to see the past two years really no new successful PFP collection with some very isolated cases has actually managed to accumulate the necessary cultural capital to build a community.
So I think PFPs are mostly dead.
Nobody's really treating them that much anymore.
But they're still great cultural assets.
A lot of them are so ridiculously expensive and lastly i think what adam is doing with token works and punk strategy
and all the derivatives of that specific contract i think it's really cool and it's adding some
fresh blood to the space yeah it'll be interesting to see we went from i mean nfts to memes which
memes are i would say more liquid nfts basically with
just you got the community aspect but a little bit more liquid so well um honestly that's that's all
i have for you guys i'm actually super super excited i wanted to do this space too so i could
honestly learn more about multiplier and not even just saying this i'm genuinely excited to do it
and hop on i do a decent amount of volume
and know how much volume a lot of people do that use my link. And I'd hope that they come over to
Multiplier because it's going to be really awesome to see what these bonk charts actually look like
after having Multiplier being involved for a week, a month, whatever it is, right? I'm guessing you're
going to have, maybe you don't't have this maybe to be a community effort
but it'd be really cool to see
some type of dashboard to show
what that kind of looks like
how multipliers
when it does happen
how they're influencing some of the market
making on some of these tokens
We will build out a dune
we'll make it public
fees, everything else
we'll be absolutely transparent about it
but yeah yeah one of
the things that i am curious to see is is exactly what you mentioned here like the market impact
right because it's it's something novel nobody has done this before uh people told me it's crazy
people told me that's it's fine you know in a lot of cases retarded ideas win like nobody took
telegram trading bots seriously three years ago.
Right. Look where they are now. Right.
You have dudes like printing 50 million, 10 million per month.
And you literally have like seven people on the team.
It's complete insanity. Right.
So I never like building products that look like something else or launch.
You get on a different chain.
It's like we've been following through on this thesis and building out the system for 17 months so yeah it's kind of like
i'm very excited to see whether it works i think it will we've balanced tested before on different
smaller chains so yeah we're super excited we'll share all the data transparently as quickly as we
can build out those dashboards. Awesome.
Yeah, I mean, you go to your website in general
and it's just a full-on experience.
So I know that there's five curated tokens to start.
Sorry, you probably already mentioned this.
I see the top players, it's Fraser K, et cetera.
So if I wanted to go play right now,
could I go start playing
or do I need to wait until it's officially launched?
It's essentially
a gated beta. There are
a few issues that we're solving for until
over the next
X amount of days.
We've had quite a few people test the
product already and provide us with feedback.
You can go play right now.
It's just that there's a very
important point I want to make.
The fact that these, because we're constantly buying these tokens for winners, right?
The token price appreciation is what sets off the negative EV from the games, right?
So the experience is still good.
The RTP is not egregious at all.
Plus the amount of the money, some of the money that you spend,
it goes into jackpots, it goes into
like weekly, leaderboard
rewards, right? So there's a progression system.
Plus every single time that you lose,
you actually still get a significant
amount of your money back. And
the mint token, which you can switch
to, toggle to, and it's basically a cash back
that you can use to not break immersion.
Buy, I think, you can play right now but like the the true effect of the system will be visible
once there's 1 000 people playing at the same time at that point it's like constantly injecting
liquidity in the tokens right and i want to see i want to see those charts and i want to create a
big-ass dashboard showing the market impact of the multiplier mechanism. I want to see those by like by like icons like hopping on on charts so that we can
prove that you know this can actually work and we can be the people's market maker. Well I'm going
to have so I have four monitors just because the more monitors you have the better trader you are
obviously so I'll probably have a monitor pulled up
with this on it specifically.
And I actually got an auto-clicker for a period of time
until I worried that it's going to steal all my keys,
so then I deleted it.
But I will probably just auto-click all day long.
Maybe you're not allowed to do that,
but on multiplier with window window open on that computer.
It's fine.
Auto-clicking is positive positive for everybody, including us.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
It's like sometimes when I auto click, it's like,
and then I come back and it says you're out of funds. I'm like, did they just,
did they do something because they know I'm auto clicking or did I really
lose that path?
But anyway, super excited.
I know. Yeah. You sent me the link. I'm
going to go try it out so I can test and you probably won't care about my feedback, but I'm
sure you'll care to some degree, but. Yeah. Shoot over any feedback. Don't focus on the bugs. Don't
focus on like the annoying things. We already have those indexed. What would be helpful is like,
you know, four or five high level bullet points. What do you like how does the craftsmanship feel and what do you think you know could
potentially be changed to make it a better experience for you well i i already like it
compared to you go to any because this isn't really like a casino i mean but if you go to like a
it kind of is but it kind of isn't it's more of an experience um but if you go to casinos a lot
of them are just absolute dog shit,
confusing, hard to understand, not really.
They look like they're a 90s website, right?
Yeah.
This looks fun and cool.
So absolutely going to try it.
Yeah.
And I'm excited to see in the next couple of weeks how we get more,
more of those, more, more curated tokens on that list,
if you know what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll make them pump. We'll make them pump. we should probably create a private eca group but uh i'm
not going to talk about that here yeah everybody's from the space yeah no i like it no well it sounds
like you're doing something really cool i'm super excited i'm glad you chose bonk because
if this was on pump i probably wouldn't want to talk about it. Not that I don't like pump. I always like some pump coins,
but just where I'm heavily shifted to bonk specifically,
this makes it a super easy segue into everything I'm already talking about.
So amazing. All right. Oh, well, thank you for having us here.
And we'll let everybody know about the public release date very shortly.
Awesome. And then one last thing you mentioned,
so if someone does want to get on the list,
you don't want to obviously have your DMs blowed up.
What's the, and I obviously don't want
to have mine blown up either.
What's the best way if they're like a legit DM?
Just DM us. DM me a great call.
We go through our DMs relatively frequently.
Maybe the best DM is just a hi.
Is that what you prefer?
Yeah, just GM.
Send a GM or hi.
Don't send like five fucking paragraphs.
She'll leave me your token.
Like, my head will start hurting and I'll close the tab.
You know, I don't even respond to people if they text me more than two sentences.
If it's not just like three or four words, they better get their message through
in that short period of text.
I completely agree with you.
Well, thanks so much for joining everyone.
Let's see, the next space we have is on Wednesday.
We're going to be talking to Fartless and BestCoin.
So that'll be at 2 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday.
Bonk Intern and I will be there.
Lars, thanks so much.
I'll retweet out anything you guys have going on and appreciate you and Grip being here today. Of course, intern, and I will be there. Lars, thanks so much. I'll retweet out
anything you guys have going on, and appreciate you and Grip being here today. Of course, and thank
you for having us. Okay, take care. Bye. All right, take care. Cheers, guys. Bye. Thank you.
