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$LOUD and Loudio if we incentivize attention, value will follow, Maybe.
Recorded: June 1, 2025 Duration: 0:45:10Space Recording
Short Summary
Loud and Loudio are launching innovative token mechanisms that reward user engagement through trading fees, aiming to reshape the crypto landscape. However, concerns about sustainability and authenticity in influencer marketing could impact their long-term success.
Full Transcription
Thank you. all right cool all right today gonna go over loud and loudio an interesting airdrop mechanic
a interesting new crypto mechanism design that is incentivizing attention kind of like affiliate
marketplaces of the past a little bit of embedded with kato kido whatever you want to call it uh the
mindshare reward based model proof of attention mechanism it is a they're trying to build this
mechanism design that's creator and speculator alignment, right?
So let's talk from the very basic principle of what this thing is.
Laudio or loud is a leaderboard, a leaderboard of KOLs or people that want to talk and get
involved with the mechanism design of a particular project.
Now, for a long time, it's about capital formation
and speculation of how to align these people
and align everybody in the crypto ecosystem.
All right, hold on.
All right, so effectively,
you've got a couple of things going on, right?
You've got the token holders, you've got the users. And if it's a meme coin, I think this is one of the most powerful mechanism designs that you can talk about.
deep into the psychology a little bit later. If you think about the incentivization mechanism
of attention, if mean coins are effectively around the attention that drives value and value
drives attention, then something like this mechanism design will work fantastically,
right? So think about the ticker. It's loud.
Loud is obnoxious, feels a little bit off. Laudio is trying to create this new paradigm of
the monetization between a Twitter post and a token value and incentivize the token value
and the potential trading fees. One of the things that's really interesting on this is what they're doing is
taking not just the token airdrop, but on a weekly basis,
whoever's talking the loudest about the token gets a cut of the trading fees,
which effectively is really smart because there's this ongoing,
this ongoing, what would you call it?
There's an ongoing revenue generation.
It's not just a one-dime pump and dump.
Potentially, anybody who talks about this thing on a given week,
if they have the most impressions, starts to drive value and value accrual to the token.
This was kind of seen in Frentech.
This was Fantasy Top.
And now there's a one-to-one mechanism designed
in pure flow of value to the people
who talk about the token of a meme coin
and the meme coin itself.
The question is,
is the potential of this thing going to stand for a very long time or is it going to pump and dump?
And it's kind of to be determined.
So what's the basics?
Built on the Cato platform, Loud is a derivative of Cato.
So Cato is a platform that talks about yapping.
Yapping is effectively pushing out
tweets, pushing out attention within the crypto markets. Some of the costs associated with Kato
are a little absurd, in my opinion. Generally, as a marketer, you start with like 25 or 50K
experiments. The experiment to get on the Kato platform is 150K. It's a very, very high threshold.
And what happens is with such a high threshold, only a few projects, maybe 20 or 30 projects,
in my opinion, the entire industry would be able to afford it. But it does have a cool it factor.
It is kind of like one of the things that KOLs can start to like really evaluate their value accrual in the system.
And so Kato is a really interesting launch place so that you can take your token, launch it out, go out there and drive a lot of attention to a token and drive a lot of value and value accrual
and so you're quantifying each tweet that a that a that a yapper has and and associating that to
a potential airdrop loud and loudio takes it even further right so it's an ongoing mechanism design
design. So all of the trading fees, or I think a large portion of the trading fees of the initial
so all of the trading fees or i think a large portion of the trading fees of the initial pol
POL go to the loudest 25 yappers of the week. I'll throw a link to show it right now. But
there's some bases that are there, Ansem and some other like Solana, like KOLs that are driving.
But you have this new mechanism design with Loud and you have Kato, which is the platform that Loud is built on top of.
And so when you figure it out or you kind of connect the dots, you're trying to connect the value of trading fees, meme, volatility, and attention all under a financial loop.
And so as the attention of a particular token shrinks,
so do the people talking about it.
And here's a way to get people continuously talking about it
and posting on a token.
And I think that's the mechanism to decide that they're driving for.
Can we get KOLs every single week to talk about a token
at just enough to sustain the volatility and to stay in the training volume and grab that within it.
So Loud and Loudio are a super interesting experiment,
but they have a couple of fundamental flaws and maybe it'll play out
and maybe it won't play out.
So you got like the psychological impact.
There's a lot of studies that have been shown around raising children that if you reward children for the activity, they're less likely
to do the activity later on. So anything that they deem to be fun, let's say they like to paint
and then you start paying them for their paintings, they'll less likely want to paint
over any given time. As a personal anecdote, I was a professional DJ,
used to spend tens of hours a week spinning songs, making songs.
But when I became a professional DJ and got paid to do it,
and I was spinning out and getting paid three days a week,
I stopped playing at home because it was a job.
And so you can kind of take this thing in the monetization technique of the activity,
then kind of turns the individual into the monetization technique of the activity then kind of turns
the individual into a job and work and a chore versus like a love and a passion so will loud
and loudio have the same type of effects on kols is it a job for them to post are they going to be
as creative or is it just going to be like a financialization of of art in a meme format so
you know if going back to loud's documents and their their self-referential kind of like
how they describe themselves they're basically describing themselves as a perpetual kol
decentralized experiment of intention markets.
All right. So the mindshare reward based model, the proof of attention of Kaido,
it's mixed with a speculator and creator fee alignment mechanism. And they believe that this
will create a three, three effect of coordination between the KOLs and DeFi flywheel of economics. But there's a couple of logical fallacies and thoughts in there that aren't necessarily
real.
First off, not all attention is equal.
Attention may signal value, but it does not cause value in and of itself, right?
So, you know, people tune out ads that they see over and over
again. And that's why kind of like the Superbowl ads are the launch of an ad because that's when
everybody places their like the first new ad and everybody gets excited and it's funny and it's
interesting. But familiarity breeds resentment. And if this is the case, the continued, what people, what the KOLs are sacrificing is authenticity and followers for another familiar post about, potentially about Loud.
And so what you're doing is this value trade between Loud's token price, the KOLs that are talking about it, and they're scalping all of the value out of the KOL's authenticity.
So every single post that allowed KOL becomes less valuable in the next post.
And they have to post three more times to get and put it into the market cap token of loud.
The crazy thing is like you have a lot of these top KOLs and today is the at $12 million.
So this is a very early experiment, and it's either something that's going to be very big or very small, but it's cool.
Like it's a cool mechanism design.
But I think that you're going to create this siphoning effect of value that comes from the attention of the KOLs.
They're going to continually diminish their brand.
And anybody that posts about Loud, you can see like a little bit of a flex on CryptoPitter right now that people are silencing Loud and Loudia all over the place.
They don't want to hear about it anymore because it's just
it's just noise right and so you as a creator if you're posting about loud or loudio you're
signaling that you're a sellout and you're not authentic and you're not posting about what you
believe in what you're telling people is like yo i am i am available for hire and this is what i do
and and there's simply uh you know there's some really interesting people in there.
You know, Wen Moon, he used to run his number two in the loud ecosystem.
He used to run the entire DeFi ecosystem at Arbitron.
And so that's kind of like interesting.
Of course, you have like, well, Mocha, ICOBeast.eth,
and a couple other people.
Ansem, you know, he's a classic in there.
A couple new faces, AIXBT, he's in there.
He's in this cold, loud thing.
And, you know, it's constantly shifting and constantly going.
And, you know, so Volvo, right?
So we got some players in here that have like charge.
Let's see.
I'm not going to mention one of those people's, the exact person, but I know that one of the people on here that I recently mentioned costs about $7,000 or $8,000 a post, right?
seven or eight thousand dollars a post right so what that means is that seven or eight thousand
dollars a post can they still get that same impact if they are making a capital efficient
kind of mechanism the answer is no right you can always charge a premium of capital when there is
no price discovery what loud is also doing is creating
a price discovery mechanism for each of these influencers, which will drive them down, right?
So if you think about the cost of a post and the cost of getting an influencer involved,
sometimes it's crazy. People want $30,000 for a month and they're like, hey, I'll do five posts on this thing if they like it.
Your estimated average comes out to about $6,000 a post.
We've done experiments like that in the past.
They generally don't pan out well.
However, they are fun to try.
I've done a couple of famous influencers like, hey, we're doing this experiment.
How about $1,000?
Yeah, I'll do it.
Cool.
It's interesting.
It's almost like you're patronizing your patron of these influencers because you like their work more than about the cost-effective nature of the return on investment of your paying
proposed. So there's a little bit in that. You want these people to still exist. You want them
to keep on tweeting. You still want them to push their art form. Okay, let's go back to some of the
other bullet points. All right. I think the main concept here is that attention leads to value the thesis is
by loud is that attention leads to value so if we incentivize attention value will follow
oh well in reality not all attention is equal attention may signal value it may align itself
to value but it does not cause value in isolation.
The value is in the distribution.
Like, is crypto Twitter talking to the same, you know, 40, 50,000 people?
Are we all just, you know, in this isolated market or are we bringing new people in?
Because if we're not bringing any new people in, the Ponzi kind of slows down and we'll just be back to like FinTech finance
and having a little bit more efficient cross-border payments with stable coins.
B-bands. Cool. I just took my heads up. Happy to hop in if you want to hop in or I'm just going
through thoughts on Loud and Loudio on Loud's launch day.
So if you want to jump in or not, that's cool.
Yeah, so the question is, is all attention valuable?
And no, the attention is valuable of people that interact,
that will either be part of distribution,
that will spend their money, acquire token,
or they will talk to others
and bring new people into buying the token.
Because that's what the mechanism design is all about.
It's like, if we get these KOLs to talk about it,
then we can get the people to buy more token,
more people will buy token,
and then more KOLs will talk about it.
And that's what the flywheel is.
But as soon as the token stops pumping and i think
that's why they launched with like such a low fdv of like 12 million dollars is so that it has some
place to go one of the most interesting things that i heard from a founder who raised i think
they raised like 400 million or 300 million for their chain. They were like, how do I launch this token in price
so that after a public launch, it can still pop?
So there's probably a 10X in loud
if the mechanism design is successful
or kind of stays pretty stable.
I don't think there's going to be
much downward price pressure at a $12 million market cap,
unless it's like just a complete failure, which is also interesting too.
We need these experiments.
The more we experiment, the more we learn on whether or not it's good to have pure financialization
and mechanism designs embedded in airdrops, launches, and engagements with these KOLs.
airdrops, launches, and engagements with these KOLs.
Another thing that is in the incentive design about that is there's a little bit of like this
like a circular logic, right?
So the distribution only works if we can get new people into the ecosystem from the KOLs.
So do the existing KOLs in crypto have the ability to bring new users?
Because if they don't have the ability to bring new users, then we're not going to increase the
value of the pie. The pie of itself is not going to grow. And what ends up happening is it becomes
a self, like Ouroboros, like a self-eating snake.
And then all of the market will shrink and shrink and shrink and the cycle will collapse.
And it's just reflexive. And the fees and as more people put into the fees, into the liquidity pool,
it's just going to be completely extractive. So while without new users, without new attention,
So while without new users, without new attention, without new distribution, the thing will just go to the decks and go to Loud itself because they scalped some of the fees on the liquidity pool.
And it will drive a mechanism design that slowly leaks value to the infrastructure providers and the people that
originally built it.
Another,
another concept in here is like this idea of like three,
three mechanic.
They,
they state that,
that there's a three,
three mechanism,
which I'm a big fan of and within loud,
but the three, three mechanism is based upon KOL still talking about loud.
And so the question is, can you get them to be happily still talk about loud?
And I could tell you if you're not, they're not getting paid,
they're not going to talk about it.
So as soon as somebody kind of drops out like in the majors and they don't
want to play the loud game anymore
they're going to dump their token and and they're going to exit and then the three and three mechanic
doesn't come in hopefully in this mechanic is there's like a new ko well with a new way a new
marketer that's able to bring new distribution can kind of step in and bring it some of the
issues around the three three mechanism is that there's no staking,
there's no lockup, there's no value accrual beyond the DEX fees that are being generated.
And the trading fee subsidy has not, we don't know what the APR is going to be yet.
But, you know, first week, or if I'm, you know, looking at the website, stayloud.io,
But first week, or if I'm looking at the website, stayloud.io, the initial thing is, it looks like 2,374 sold at the time of this.
And it's about $364,000 in trading fees that they're pushing out to the KOLs.
So it's not a small number, but the weighted average here is like 44,000 is going to the top KOL.
That's awesome for a week of chit-chatting and staying loud.
Will that sustain and be sustainable?
I think it's cool.
I love the experiment, but I don't think it's going to be sustainable and sustained.
So what you'll find is this kind of homeostasis.
You'll find this balance balance in the mechanism design is like,
depending upon how many fees are putting out,
those are the types of KOLs that you're going to get.
You know, if it's like $50,000 of fees generated a wink,
you'll get some significant KOLs that keep talking and like they're incentivized to do it.
But if you kind of drip drop down, these guys these guys want a lot of money like two to three grand a week like
in like the top ones that have attention and reach so if you're distributing the 50k across
like 25 different people yeah maybe you can get like two or three top tier ones,
but you're not going to be able to sustain the top ones for very long.
Cool.
Another piece that's kind of strange is that only the top 25 get paid.
So what that means is that you have this threshold of attention and where an up and coming KOL has to hit some threshold to get into the top 25.
And if they can't and are unable to get into the top 25, they earn nothing.
I think that kind of defeats the the purpose of the the reward mechanism
i know they're doing this for like civil resistance to try to like make individuals not
try to symbol attack the the airdrop mechanism and the weekly payouts but the top 25 leaderboard
also creates this other anti function so if you're an up-and-coming KOL talking about Loud
or using the Loudio platform,
you effectively have no incremental revenue
to drive attention.
Like if you're, I met this KOL
who's an African goat herder on my way to Singapore.
And it was one of the most interesting conversations.
It was wild.
He comes from a family of goat herders.
He herds goats and he sits on his phone
and he creates these videos in his local language
and mines airdrops and does yield farming.
And he was on a flight to Singapore last year in September,
like token at 2049.
And like no shade.
It's super interesting.
It's like, is that, is because he can earn another $300 to like $1,000 a month, like it's a massive amount of money for him to like do these like KOL things and do these airdrops and and push videos and everything
like that um but in the in the point of like loud with the top 25 kind of things he'd be he'd be
ousted out so uh this is what i was talking about before about growing the pie growing the distribution
he's getting like everybody in his kind of area into crypto and
they're starting to trade crypto instead of like in pesa um but so if you the more civil resistant
you make your mechanism the less likely that a cable can have like incremental impact and get
you know that 300 a month or 200 a a month that is really meaningful capital that is flowing
in. Plus, those are the people that are going to likely grow distribution and value accrual anyways.
So while the top 25 is a forcing function to be a high enough quality, you're also
undercutting the people that are up and coming.
So they don't have incremental revenue on their way up. Let's see another point here.
Token utility. Right. So it's a meme coin. Loud doesn't really have a ton of token utility unless
they start charging Loud for this platform, for this mechanism design.
And you kind of have to have Cato, which is like a $150,000 platform fee, which is like crazy high.
Now, is Loud and Loudio going to be able to do this for other people at a lesser rate as like a distribution channel?
at a lesser rate as like a distribution channel.
If, you know, I would try that experiment on marketing spend,
but they'd have to bring it down to like 20 or 25K
to run that experiment.
And without token utility,
the attention is the only utility.
Getting KOLs on crypto chatter to post
is the only token utility to get them to bring in more people into a meme coin to drive more trading volume is the only utility.
So it's a speculation game, right?
So the speculation is can these KOLs or new entrants of KOLs bring in new people or can they not?
Or does this thing kind of just fizzle out over a couple months?
All right.
Some really cool things that they did bring to the table is that anybody can contribute.
There's like really, really low friction to get involved.
You attach your Twitter.
You go and you play the game.
You start posting about Loud and Loudio.
And yeah, you play the game. Anybody can play the game you start posting about loud and loudio and um yeah you play the
game anybody can play the game so you do have to get into the top 25 to get paid but any you know
it's open it's not like you have to go through some like kol coordinator some agency or like
management firm it's it's simple it's open it's uh it's transparent it's funny people are starting to
docs and post these different uh wallet addresses of all these top kols that they have attached to
their things so now you can kind of like copy trade them i'm sure it's the they'll spin up
like a new wallet or wallet address for this but it's uh it's funny that how some people are like
doxing themselves for these like loud tokens um cool um let's see what else uh some other good things is there's no team allocation so it's all
community driven and it's all koal driven right so uh it's not like the team or vcs are gonna dump
on you which is kind of cool uh feeses are paid in moneyness, right?
So fees are paid in sold and not in emissions.
Now, that's poor mechanism designed for the protocol itself.
So the protocol is never going to have any POL,
and the protocol will never be able to accrue value.
And so it just will kind of stay where it is.
I think it's like a, it's extremely capital efficient, but at the same time, if you don't
have like protocol fees, you can't increase or maintain or adjust, right? So if the environment
changes, X changes something, who's going to maintain the infrastructure for Loud and Loudio?
I don't know.
I don't know.
So it's kind of like how Bitcoin pour out the middleman.
And there wasn't anything to do with the middleman.
It was so capital efficient that you didn't need it.
The only thing that you really needed were exchanges.
And if there's no middlemen, there's no business.
If there's no business, then there's no maintenance.
And if there's no maintenance, eventually on a given long enough time horizon, it will trend to zero because something newer, faster, stronger will come along.
Cool. So to recap here, Loud and Loudio are speculating on the value of the attention that the current KOLs, incoming KOLs, will drive in the distribution and the distribution towards new buyers of Loud.
Cool.
And if they do that and they're figured out and they're incentivized well enough to grind
and find new pockets of distribution and new users, Loud will continue to be successful
as the pie continues to grow.
grow. However, if Loud and the KOLs around it aren't able to distribute to new pockets of users,
you'll get this speculation exhaustion where it's a little bit of an Ouroboros effect. And the fees
in the swapping mechanism will just drain the liquidity and drain the value accrual over time.
You also have this value trade of the KOLs that are currently there.
Every time that they post about loud, they diminish their brand ever so slightly because they're not as authentic.
They are doing this.
They are pay to play.
And people are currently muting them.
There's going to be a Pareto principle dynamic uh in the leaderboard right so like if i
post about loud like i don't have enough i don't post tokens i don't you know i don't have those
types of dgen type of followers that are just like oh what's what's the ticker what's the ticker i
just never optimize for that so i'm not going to get into the 20 top 25 i don't think i can win at that game
so i'm not going to play the game and there's a lot of other people because there's a top 25
i'd probably play the game if it was kind of open um just to kind of see what it's like to see if
there's something interesting here but because of that threshold i will not play the game and uh the early leaders
will likely monopolize the rewards because the mechanism is set in stone so it like like say
for example as i'm only needs to post two or three times a week to make you know two or three grand
a week then he goes oh i just have to post two or three
times about loud and i'll make a thousand bucks a post and yeah he's in the trenches and he's
grinding but you know that might pay his rent right and that's awesome for him and if that
keeps the distribution up and that keeps the everything up then um cool for him um but what will end up over a long time horizon is that the
noise to signal will will reduce and you get this weird you get this weird kind of like vice like
dystopian loop that where you'll have to post more to stay within the top 25 and he'll have to do
weirder and weirder things or or get more and more creative to get the same type of bump and boost
which will low which will lead into like stranger and stranger memes, low quality posts versus like human connection
and deep community engagement.
And, you know, the one week time cycle is pretty good.
I don't think it's like, it's not daily.
So it's not like, you know, post of the day.
But I'm not really sure if a one month,
one week or one day cycle would be better.
The feedback is pretty short on the one week mechanism.
It might be more interesting if it was like one month, three months,
or even six months to get some like long-term KOLs,
like really believing in the project.
Week by week, it has like the epoch fantasy top,
kind of like epochs of like Airdrum and some of the other 3.3 markets.
So that's probably why they went with one week.
But I think it'll produce short-term hype versus sustained advocacy or network effect.
What are those do I have in my notes?
Okay.
As an Airdrop, kicking off a project, I think this is cool.
You have things like Layer 3 and Galaxy and these other things that can be highly cybled.
You're staking your reputation as a KOL, and you're attaching your reputation to a project that you're posting about.
And because of the top 25 it is a bit civil resistant
and so while in and of itself attention i don't think is the mechanism design here
if you had real world utility um associated this associated with this and you had the mechanism design of what they have with the attention loop,
like say, for example, you know, let's take something like energy data storage, a commodity,
and the combination of the two, I think that there's really something powerful here. I think
just attention in and of itself kind of drains over time.
Back in the day, there was this website, Social Blade, that we used to do influencer purchases. And you can see the, while it's in the timeframe of years, a KOL or influencer attention pumps and dumps.
Like from Casey Neistat to any other,
everybody gets a peak and then it's a slow transition
and it's a pretty cliff drop off
of attention, user, subscribers, and viewers.
And so as an influencer, as an artist, as a creator,
you have a pump and dump,
even though the pump and dump may be over the course
of like
a year to 10 years, you still have this design mechanism. What you have to do is you have to
attach that design mechanism to real utility, not attention in and of itself. So you get this
time decay of attention and you get a time decay of status and you get a time
decay of influence. And so, but if you don't transfer, if you don't value transfer that
attention and status into real yield or real utility, you're kind of rugging yourself as an influencer and so this curve or uh decay curve will drive without real yield without
the transfer of value from attention to real yield and real utility you this thing won't work but I
think this mechanism would work for another project with real utility um they probably need some sort of staking too like instead of instead
of driving the fees uh on a weekly basis and dumping the fees out uh they should have to
stake longer and they should have bonuses to stake longer and and be in the pool because
that would drive uh alignment right? Long-term alignment.
Because if this is a short-term game with short-term alignment, it's going to fail.
If this is a long-term game with long-term alignment, it'll win.
But to win, Loud itself needs to increase its alignment with other projects, not just in and of itself, kind of like an Ouroboros thing. So if you, they start selling this to other projects,
and you get the KOLs to stake long-term
and have long-term alignment with the project,
and they kind of become these like salespeople of Loud,
I think that's extremely useful.
Yeah, people are sacrificing their brand for allowed and and i think for some people they
don't care they have a large enough audience but for other people it's going to deeply impact
their authenticity um let's see what else do i got um so I used to work for this uh company called Magic Links well I did some experiments for them
and there was like we I was a buyer of like tap influence uh Commission Junction back in the day
um there is an opportunity here to use this mechanism not just for tokens but to use this mechanism, not just for tokens, but to use this mechanism for affiliate marketing,
like Commission Junction, Clickbooth. I'm going back 10, 15 years now to have influence.
These blogger outreach platforms that would be like $200 to $300 a post to try to get your message out. And back in the day, like, when I mean like 12 years ago,
probably like 2012, like this was what you did, 2009 to 2012,
this is what you did.
You would do this blogger outreach.
And these blogger outreach platforms really drove
a lot of attention around these posts and for like real life products so
if these guys weren't doing just for token volume and token dynamics and they were driving it for
real world utility or real world products i think this drives um a lot of value in the setup that they
currently have um the other thing i think is if you don't there's a lot of brand risk around loud
and it already has some negative implications for a lot of people like muting it.
The brand risk is that you have to continuously iterate on the meme, the narrative, and the idea to make it interesting or people are just going to mute you. And as soon as people mute you, it stops the flywheel without new users coming into play um
i got like three more lines on conclusion and i think i'll stop it soon but
see a couple couple takeaways.
How would I say this?
Speculators on Loud are subsidizing the value of attention and attention generation.
But is this a real economic model in Web3? I'm unsure this is yet a real economic model. And if it's a meme, I think it's going to pump and dump. But if they can do some
lockups and figure out some long-term alignment, I think it'll be okay. And then they have to start
doing it with other projects with real utility. The Mindshare top 25 incentives are, are, are shallowed and they're,
and they're kind of like sugar. They're like, it's like a quick taste of, um, um, it's sugary,
right? Then they have to keep on producing these memes and the content quality will push down
and you're not going to get like true inspirational content.
I think what will happen over a long enough time horizon is more and more people will mute loud and the attention will go away because the quality of content and quality of posts and memes will descend towards zero or just be kind of cringe.
send towards zero and it or just be kind of cringe um there is a really cool airdrop mechanism in
here and uh we're trying we're starting to see attention as a form of labor I think is kind of
like you know like like attention to earn right like play to earn back in the day or like walk to earn this
is like post to earn attention to earn has a strong mechanism design for retroactive rewards
and driving a new mechanic which is phenomenal uh but you have risks around brown risk content quality um identity gaining
right so like you can't really do this you can't be if it's simple to tact and it's just a bunch
of like ai bops it'll quickly devolve into uh nonsense so i think what you have to do is somehow figure out how to get the content quality
um and layer in uh some sort of like reputation framework like good content bad content right
because i i see it quickly i mean it's you know it might go the the the you know the the way of like OF and just like have thirst traps posting about loud.
And that might be what it ends up doing.
It quickly becomes cringe because it'll just get sketchier and sketchier.
I think that you need to increase from Winkly to some sort of staking
or long-term alignment.
And like have like a new entrant program
or like a like a like a like a launch partner program so like early kols can figure out how
to bring in value and um new distribution and new pockets of of attention so like can you expand this to
instagram can you expand this to farcaster like can you expand this to tiktok and still
understand the mechanisms and the mechanics of it and still get the data because uh without
expansion i think uh you're gonna see oroboros i think you'll see a pump. Maybe there's a 10x pump in
here. But I think quickly, let's call it like a pump over the next week or three. And then I think
it kind of like Front Tech trends to zero over the course of a year or two, unless they bring
in new platforms, align with real yield and real utility so you can have the value transfer from status and attention
to real yield and real utility,
and then figure out how to get that into a similar mechanism design.
This Kato plus Loud could become like the beginning of like a new meme or like the attention economy, right?
It could become the platform of the attention economy. Facebook ads, if you like Facebook and Instagram ads and meta ads was separate and could be applied
to Facebook, could be applied to Instagram, could be applied to TikTok. If they can figure that out,
there is a pretty, pretty decent play here for the attention economy. Like this is as the
advertising engine, the attention economy. But in its current form, I don't think that, I think the feedback loops
of pure speculation will just drain the value out over time. I'm going to post out maybe some graphs
and stuff on this, and I'll throw this into an article. Thank you for listening, V-Bands. This was cool.
I'm going to end it here.
I thought more people might jump up and, you know,
it's token launch day, but I'm going to drive this and throw this out there.
I like it.
It's cool.
It's a cool experiment.
It's got some issues, but we'll see.
I don't know.
Been wrong before.
He'll be right.
If I'm the owner of Loud, I'm trying to figure out how do I, like I said, how do I get more projects with real yield and maybe staking yield, something boring like energy or commodities or lending like compound?
How do I get them in there and not have like this crazy like $300,000 charge?
them in there and not have like this crazy, like $300,000 charge.
And then I'm also thinking about how do I expand to more platforms so I can get a bigger,
bigger viral loops of distribution.
And that's what I would do.
And I'll probably turn this into an article and throw it up and just doing this here to
like distill my thoughts and get it out there
and uh then turn this into an article but uh thanks for listening i'm gonna bounce Gracias.
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