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Loudio 中文 AMA
Recorded: May 28, 2025 Duration: 1:09:49Space Recording
Short Summary
The Laudio token is set to launch with a community-focused distribution strategy, leveraging a partnership with HoloLaunch to ensure accessibility and engagement. This initiative aims to foster growth within the Cato ecosystem, reflecting a broader trend towards inclusive tokenomics in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Music Thank you. Music Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and get started.字幕志愿者 李宗盛我可以听到你们两个人的声音
但是你俩听不到
哈喽大家可以听到吗
可以的可以的
好的好的请不吝点赞 订阅 转发 打赏支持明镜与点点栏目阿文你我這邊聽不大清楚
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剛剛接到這個接到麥克風去了大家好有好一點嗎?現在好okok
剛剛接到這個
接到麥克風去了
今天是一個比較臨時的AMA
其實是Billy所組織的
剛剛他遇到了一些技術問題
現在我們就先讓Billy來開場吧
Hello 大家好always need yourself整个的领奖机制问题还是问题和争议然后就想
会集大家过来一起
然后大家一起学习研究一下
然后感谢
感谢Alvin
Crystal阿宝
还有阿宝
然后我们大家是大家如果有什么问题都尽管像我还有Ultra提出来
对因为这个是比较free的一个AMA
所以可能待会就大家可以先稍微介紹一下自己的背景
以及因為Bili這邊有已經提前準備好的問題
就是說你們可能看到中文玩家或者是英文玩家
對整個laudio的一些機制上的玩法的問題
我覺得你們也可以先跟大家介紹一下
然後我們可能我們依序去來問你們
就是說不管是本身也好
或者是對中文玩家也好
對好那接下來就換比利吧
比利你有开麦吗
那我先做一个自我介绍
然后我主要在
咱们这个行业主要是
做marketing这一块
然后我现在一家
一家一家
Sex Exchange做
然后也有在
Botanics上面的
Dex Protocol
Megpatch的Community
社区管理
也介绍一下自己
OK好大家好對,也介紹一下自己
OK好,大家好我是Alvin,我是梅子BN的創辦人
因為我大概是比較早開始玩Kaito的,從去年11月
後來其實大家也知道,不管是InfoFi還是中文這邊
其實都陸續有非常多人加入
圍繞著整個Kaito的生態其實也有非常多不同的團隊出來
那相信大家也都知道開頭的Founder就是胡語本身也非常的活躍
就是積極的跟大家互動以及讓更多的這種應用可以繼續開頭做出更多好玩的東西
對那其實跟Ultra也认识了一阵子
对从去年开始
因为我知道他会针对每个
ecosystem去做他自己的dashboard
然后包含前阵子的这个Believe app
对他有做一个dashboard这样子
对所以今天呢
就很开心来跟大家来做这个讨论这样子
对好谢谢
好的谢谢Alvin的介绍
我们的Crypto阿宝有没有想讲一下自己的背景呢
你好你好
我是那个加米阿宝
然后呢我是其实是这个InfoFi的新人
最近才开始玩这个开头
因为最近我发现那个YARP和BandaiSelfa的这个
这个组合权吧,会帮助很多项目
很快的上线
以及快速吸引很多人注意力
然后呢,昨天就是那个OneMoon跟我说
唠叨没有研究
然后研究了一下
就发现那个我最大的问题就是这个25个人
然后正好这一次嘛一次也想聽一聽
也學習一下這個的邏輯
以及未來怎麼解決這個問題
好的 關於這個
這個只獎勵給前25個人這個
謝謝阿寝的介绍然后想问一下
月牙方便上麦介绍一下自己吗
哈喽可以听到吗
可以听到哈喽哈喽
我是DeFi App和Formal Venture的
要太负责人
然后呃我觉得就是我就是我也是
跟爱宝一样在最近两个月左右
开始使用开头的
然后我觉得嗯开头最大的价值
不仅是一个内容发现工具
更是一个推动链上声誉和内容影响
力挂钩的一个关键的基础设施
然后呢呃我其实也很期待
捞呃就是非常期待开头和捞丢之间能产生更多的协同
然后我今天来 AMA也是想了解更多的细节信息
然后呃我也相信好内容和好机制
最后都是会相运的
好的谢谢月娅
那咱们就先
咱们就先从
从问题开始吧
大家对于这个项目最想了解的问题有哪些
大家可以先踊跃说一下
然后我们可以一起讨论
OK好我可以先发问討論我覺得第一個問題肯定就是大家對25這個數字一個很大的疑惑
因為老實說CT非常多人
包含英文圈、中文圈以及各種不同地區的
Yapper也好或者是Content Creator也好
為什麼當初會決定25這麼小的數字呢?
我覺得一般的玩家非KOL或者是内容创作者的人
肯定也会有兴趣嘛
那他们可以怎么样去参与
我觉得大家应该都会想问这个问题
关于这个问题
就是我自己有
我自己是觉得
他列前25个初衷之一也是想要就是在CT上就是最有贡献的一部分人
这个MemeCoin能够
它的价值能够走得更远
所以这是为什么
为什么它选择25个人的原因
然后咱们也可以问一下
他是怎么想的 We can also ask Ultra.
Sorry, I cannot speak Chinese too well,
but on the 25 people question,
sorry, I think Alvin will have to translate.
On the 25 people question,
I know it's the most asked question.
I think the main issue is that most of the followers of Loud are from the Yapper community.
And they expect to also be part of the whole system was made so the token holders can get the most out of
the money they spend with each transaction right so if you're a token holder would you rather have
the most uh influential 25 people talking about the coin or a hundred smaller. That's kind of the idea.
And instead of giving the ability for the big Yapper community
to the leaderboard competition,
I want to get them to participate
in the experiment on another side,
which is from the token perspective.
In the initial distribution,
I wanted to be spread across the wider Yapper community.
那我那我为大家就先做一下翻译吧
然后刚刚Ultra是提到
对想把想把想把这
先把领奖的机制分给前25个人的原因是因为
想要让影响力最大的人
去帮这款病发生
然后他们
因为他们的激励
就是这个token交易
一量的手续费是以
以索拉纳的这个直接发送给那个KRL的
所以这也能够最直接的激励到
发布关于LAL这款项目的内容
然后对大致就是这个意思
然后看一下Oven就是对这一块有没有什么见解
看一下Alvin就是对这一块有没有什么见解
我个人的话
能够大致理解
Otra想要表达的意思
刚刚他有提到就是
他一开始这个initial
distribution会针对yappers
对所以我也想要针对
这一个部分
继续往下问这样子
那在这之前看
月牙跟阿宝有没有什么想要补充的
对你刚刚听这些过程
有没有解决你们的一些疑惑之类的
这个我还是有一个疑惑嘛
就比如说如果就是为了充满结构
或者怎么样
那比如说可能就是为了筹码结构或者怎么样,那
比如说可能
到了中晚期嘛,那可能
新人的那个Instantive
或者这个激励机制,他们可能
就不足,就可能真的就是
头部的可能25个人
甚至前30个人在争
那个所有的奖励,以及那个
交易手续费,那可能
其他的这些yapper
他们怎么会更多的发声呢
因为我想的是LOD这个产品的主题
就让大家更大声的发声嘛
所以可能还是对这个未来的激励机制有一些问题 I have a lot of questions about in the middle of the project, if only about 30 to 40 yappers are only yapping about this project.
How will the rest be incentivized to help the project grow further?
Can you answer this question for us?
Yeah, absolutely.
So I don't think it's necessary for every single Yapper to participate in the leaderboard itself. The leaderboard is designed to be exclusive to the top accounts. We only want the top KOLs to compete in there. That's kind of the idea. It should not be exclusive because what you want as the token holder is exactly that, attention from the biggest accounts on CT. If you have concentration of rewards in the top spots,
you're going to attract all the biggest KOs such as Ansem and so on. That's the idea. What I want
That's kind of the idea. What I want for the wider Yapper community, all the small Yappers are still going to be
rewarded in a sense by giving them access to the initial distribution of the projects. That's how
I want to align the incentives in general. The wider Yapper community and Cato community will
have access to the initial distribution of the token.
And then only the top KOLs
will have to compete on the leaderboard.
It's that's the experiment, basically.
Thank you, Ultra.
Just for the first time,
I wanted to make the most influential
of the people who have the ability to help this B是为了让最具影响力有占能力的这一批人
去帮这款币发生
然后这款币中间产生的手续费
这个是由他们去帮忙争取的
但是由于他们的影响力
这款币的价值也会往上走
然后也会帮助
帮助币者能够
从中去利益
然后当然就是
开头的staker
会质押者也会从中受益
然后这是一个比较正向的一个循环吧
对看一下大家对这一块还有什么疑惑或者什么
那我可能就下一个问题就是
那这个就是纯三三机制嘛
但是所有的可能筹码就交给了前25个人当车头
那如果其中一个车头下车的话
可能就直接交给整个社区了
那这个问题是不是就是有什么解决方案
或者是比如说前25个人他只有这个收益
但是他们的币也是被动锁仓
这样才是一个正方向的如果前25個人他只有這個收益但是他們的B也是被動鎖倉
這樣才是一個正方向的一個33的社區吧
讓我看土耗也舉手了
我看等會把他也拉上來
不好意思我不太聽懂
就是按照現在的這個結構的話
它就是一個三三的費輪向上升
但是現在的獎勵機制
是等於把所有的決定權交給前25個人
那如果其中有一個人要下車的話
他可能就會把所有的籌碼給賣掉
或者怎麼樣子
那怎麼去保護我們其他剩下人的這個利益呢
這個這個Leader會變動
每周都會變動
我覺得就是不存在說下車之後
它的社區的利益就受到折損或者怎麼樣的
這個可能就是比如說我們衝突狗的時候
那我們一般會盯前排
那前排可能30个地址
如果其中有一个大户可能有1%
直接到盘地厂的话
可能对整个币价对整个这个社区和整个这个市场嘛
都会产生特别大的影响
大概就是有这么一个问题
好的这个问题让我们问一下Ultra Okay, let's ask Ultra.
Hello, Ultra.
So one of our speakers, he asked if one of the chaos on the. Got off.
Their.
This is and then he think will get a huge impact to the community.
And he want to know like what's.
What's your thought?
So I didn't fully understand the question. sorry, cut off for a second.
Maybe Alvin, if you have better VPN.
Okay.
Maybe let me ask directly.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah.
So my question is because the whole 3-3 game is far real, so we expect the token price, when that's strictly right? But what if let's say the top 25 people, they control some supply and mostly influence, right?
If one of them or maybe like some of them, at like a one market cap or at one point, they just drop off. If it's down-barrisoning to the market, it will damage the whole community, damage all the YARPR's benefits, especially for the whole large price and future tokenomics.
The concern is that only 25 people will benefit the most from the trading fee or even the supply.
Yeah, the whole free free works this way, as I explained a few times. It should only be the
top chaos competing for it. All the others are going to have exposure from the other side,
on the token side. You have to think of it from the token holder's perspective and maximize that.
And on the alignment between the KOLs, because I think a criticism has been that
maybe the KOLs do it once and then they disappear or the volume goes away.
away the best way a kol can play this game is by incentivizing attention volume fees but also
keeping the game going because this is the best and easiest money in a sense uh that a kol can
make by just selling his speech right by? By just talking, this has been,
it's been very hard with other Kato leaderboards too.
You know, you have to talk for months
before you get any reward
and then the reward is something in some random token.
But with this kind of loud dashboard,
you have a very clear incentive as a KOL
to make sure that the loud token and the loud project
in a sense remains working forever, right?
Got it, got it.
So I can think this way, right?
It's a better way to get attention than the bump,
but people will try hard to keep sharing
to be in the top 25 for the top chaos.
Yeah, now I understand it better.
Thank you, Ultra.
Yeah, thank you.
Okay, we see another other people also requested
on 12th.
Okay, we see another other people also requested土澳要不要解释一下用中文
好啊就是有看到這個土澳大師兄也也這個我們讓他來發發問一下好了
OK好土澳可以開辦嗎
OK好有了有了
呃好可以
呃對我有想有問題想要問一下
因為之前其實跟Ultra有过一点这个文字的沟通
但是今天能够用语音沟通确实会好一些
中文的问题我先说吧
就是现在最核心的关键点在于
其实绝大部分的人
无论是我们现在在听这个AMA的QOL还是散户
是很难进入到25个人的角度中的
这个东西咱们实话实说
那最终的话呢
其实从两个人群来讲
一部分是可以拿到
大量收入的前25人
然后另外就是所有其他的人
怎么在这个游戏中间获得收益
之中最关键的一点
刚才其实Ultra有提到一点
但是翻译一下姐姐可能没有去把它重点讲出来
就是怎么样能够让最开始的筹码合理的分配到
所有的对这个Loud感兴趣的人手里
因为只有筹码有了筹码以后的话大家才有参与感 so
so actually i i really want to know so what do you think about uh the initial token distribution because most of us actually i think 99 of the audience who will
join this game just by uh how buys tokens how tokens probably pump it uh because uh i i think
it's pretty hard for us to among top five 20 uh top 25 so So would you mind to give us your idea about that?
Yeah, so on initial distribution,
there will be a article coming with more details.
But the general idea is that I fully understand
that the majority of the appers will not be able to compete.
And that is by design.
It's in the design.
And so to keep the remainder of the Cato community and Yapper community
and everybody that talked about Laudio so far engaged and rewarded,
the initial distribution should be very accessible.
It should be white listed and accessible to the wider Yapper community.
Okay, so an article is going to come very soon
with all the breakdown of the different tiers
and phases.
But the idea is that I fully understand
that the majority of people cannot participate
in Yapping or, you know,
compete on the leaderboard. So this has to feel like a community coin for the Cato community.
And so the distribution is very important to be very wide and spread across the Cato ecosystem,
right? Yeah, exactly. So that's the thing I really want to know. Appreciate for your answer.
Sorry, one more question.
So I just want to know what you think about the people who are going to, you know,
yap together and try to hold their position.
For example, the top 25, if 20 or even 25 of them they uh make a small couple and try to comment
each other yap each other because you know they're top influencers and definitely they're gonna
get more yaps so if they get together and how other competitors can replace them. So I'm just a little bit concerned whether at the end of the game
it's going to be just a 25 people's game.
So they keep each other in the group and enjoy the weekly reward.
And all of others, you know, just look at what they play.
So that's my concern.
So what do you think you're going to deal with this?
Yeah.
So first of all, I think it doesn't necessarily matter who is on the 25 because, or if they
play with each other, because in the end, the goal is to increase mindshare.
So if they are in the top 25, it means they are probably very big KOLs and kind of the
goal of the token is being achieved.
And on the other side, you have to remember that this is using the exact same method that Cato uses for every other leaderboard.
It's the exact same algorithm.
So it's going to look at spam.
It's going to look at analyzing people that try to comment on each other to boost each other.
It's going to look at the quality of the content.
It's going to look at the sentiment.
You cannot be negative in a sense.
You can only be neutral or positive when you talk about the token.
So this is how it works.
I'm not touching the Cato algorithm at all. I'm just taking the data from Kato and using that for displaying the leaderboard.
Yeah, that's the reason why I have a little bit of concern because, you know, there are a lot of
comments that people believe that the algorithm of Kato can partly be gamed because if the
influencers comment with each other and the YAPs are going to grow up quickly.
So if the top 25 people, they comment with each other and do some kind of games,
so if you are not going to change the algorithm of Kaido, what's going to happen?
I think, you know, at the beginning, I think the Cato algorithm maybe had some issues, you know, it was easy to be game.
But as time passed, Cato changed a lot.
Things are evaluated.
And I feel personally that at this time it's much more fair in how it evaluates attention.
But overall, you have to remember that 20% more or less of the fees go to Cato, right?
Yeah.
And so they have a clear incentive to make this a success, right?
And also, this is going to be the most public way people can see if the integrity of the
data from Cato holds up.
People are going to be looking at the leaderboard and being like,
everybody can see if somebody's cheating, right?
It's the biggest public test of Kato's data integrity.
Yeah, so you think people are going to be afraid of this kind of comments, right?
As top influencers.
So if people, everybody looking at them, they play the games, so it's going to be awkward.
I don't feel like, I mean, people might be afraid of it, but they can also speak up and the Cato has an incentive in making sure that the feed is fair
because it's like people are looking and evaluating
if Kato is being fair in how it evaluates things.
If something is wrong, they should fix it, right?
And it's not necessarily my role to do so.
I'm just displaying the data that comes from Kato.
If something feels broken on
the leaderboard it's not necessarily you know loud's fault i'll stand um it means that there's
there's some feedback for kato and they will uh you know keep it in mind and probably update their
algorithm if something is wrong okay yeah makes sense. I think that Kato people should really pay attention to this,
because there are some comments that the algorithm of Kato is not fair enough.
So I think it's a pretty good chance to show people whether it's fair or not.
Okay, actually, yeah, it's not your responsibility.
Thank you for your answer.
I'm done.
Okay,好,我可以稍微总结一下. Thank you for your answer. I'm done.那如果這些人他們拿了很大部分的token但可能又砸了一半 那其實整個遊戲就會變得比較不可持續性嘛所以怎麼樣去平衡這些top yappers的分配
以及其他人的參與 我覺得都是蠻重要的
那Ultra又提到他去使用這個開頭的這個數據等等
那看月牙这边有没有什么问题
或者是想要补充的
或者是阿宝
不好意思
阿宝我打断一下
刚才其实有一个地方理解上
我不知道是我理解有问题
还是说你那边理解跟我不一样
就是他的筹码的早期分配
其实不是直接给到top25
应该是拿到池子里面交易费的那部分
其实实际上他应该拿到是SOUL
所以大部分的筹码应该前期是会分给大家
但具体上现在还没讲
对这个应该是我说错了
就是它是weekly dispute
就是说每周去分配交易量的
我记得4%
对所以实际上
最主要现在就是涉及到大家的利益的
最重要的就是早期它这个筹码怎么分配出去
这个非常非常关键
是是是对
那就是这一部分吧
对刚刚有点说错
好感谢感谢
刚才我就听到这部分
所以就有一个问题
因为一般LP的这个Trading fee
它是两部分的
它是有Token加Sow
所以它的Token部分是直接卖上Sow
然后呢去做这个Distribution的
是这样子吗
还是那个Token的部分
可能就直接团队流了
因为这部分好像没有太听懂
OK 我觉得这是一个蛮好的问题
我们也可以问一下
这个有一个问题就是
就是对token的分配一般这个reward是claimLP的这个钱嘛
那一般LP是两部分
一部分是Token
一部分是Sow
那如果distribute的Sow这部分的话
那那个Token的部分是随时卖成Sow吗
还是那部分的Token可能就归团队所有了
so that the token can be taken to the organization,
还是被burn掉了这样子
so that the token can be taken to the organization.
So, if you have a question,
you can ask the token to be taken to the organization.
So, if you have a question,
you can ask the organization to be taken to the organization.
So, if you have a question,
you can ask the organization to be taken to the organization.
So, if you have a question,
you can ask the organization to is it to the community or strictly to the team
itself
yeah so yeah as i mentioned also in article, the idea is to have a completely community-owned coin or to be kind of like the first Cato community coin, right?
The team, quote-unquote, will have zero tokens, right?
The idea is to have an initial liquidity raise, in a sense,
and then the rest will go all into LP.
There is no interest in the team, again, quote-unquote,
to participate in the token side of things.
This is just an experiment which is being launched,
and then it's for others to be played right it's fully
community owned oh sorry so actually my question is like for the lpc right uh there'll be two parts
normally so you know there will be lot token and also solana uh because all the top 25 will get
the solana only i'm wondering how about the the token part the lot part will get the Solana only. I'm wondering how about
the token part, the Laud part, will this be sold every 30 minutes to Solana then
distribute or it will be launched to a team or it will be burned? That's the question.
Sorry, okay, let me explain. Actually, Laud is using Matera Damm V2, which supports taking all fees in a single token.
So every time someone buys, everything is taken in sole.
And also every time somebody sells, it's also taken in sole.
Technically, the way it works is that on know on a buy the tax is applied before
the swap and on a sell the the tax is taken after the sell right that's how it works for Matera
Dammv2 so it's only Seoul there is no token portion at all ever it's just all right
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所以就是为什么他们可以直接
只把solana的这个奖励给到所有的kvol
所以这个不会产生任何对load的影响
然后我这边没有问题
好像那个narch不太会读这个名字 And I have no problem here. I think that's Narch.
I will not write this name.
Alvin, do you want to be with both of you.
A person before had mentioned something.
I just want to comment on it about this being kind of like a test of Cato in the wild and seeing what the algo is and concerns about gaming it.
I understand those concerns, but if you take a look at my account, at one point, I was number eight on this leaderboard. I think I'm 32 now or something like that. I'm not a large account. I don't have a huge following. I didn't really use Twitter in the most profitable way for crypto Twitter, but I was early and I was very loyal to kind of the message because I thought it
was very important. I think that this solves, and there's a question coming here, I promise.
I think this solves some big issues that exist when it comes to launch pads and launching meme coins and um you know it does create a space for small accounts
to grow and so i i think that what we're gonna see here is um a launch of a new kind of meta
um with what ultra is created with laudio uh because it forces people to kind of attach their name
and their brand instead of just pasting a contract address in a like internal telegram
where insiders are going to snipe stuff.
It forces you to be out in the open with your trades and with your convictions and to see
how long you can stick with those convictions.
And so I would argue that larger accounts have a lot more to lose by sticking with something and putting their neck out there. So I actually think this is a really positive so far for what
I'm seeing for Cato and shout out to Wenmoon in the audience as well for making this happen as well with the tech and the distributions here. that's out there where you know you have this uh kind of pump and dump mentality or you have this
kind of rug uh fear that people have do you think that this changes um meme coins into more of a
culture more of a cult following and um what do you think it does to the space and thank you for
doing this again. Appreciate it.
Yeah, I think, first of all,
it focuses all attention onto a single thing.
This is, of course, at the very beginning,
this will be the only token which kind of has this mechanism,
which is about taking what Cato had
for big projects
and big chains for six months now
and bringing it to the bottom 90% of meme coins.
This is what's happening.
You're taking the best distribution mechanism for rewards,
which is mindshare-based distribution,
and bringing it onto something that is worthless, a meme coin in
sense, right?
This is the whole experiment.
And I think it will change the space in the sense that I think this is something that
the bottom 90%, again, meme coins, worthless tokens have always wanted to have this kind of distribution method.
So there will be a lot more demand for other projects to also copy this kind of distribution system.
And yeah, if this experiment succeeds and we prove that there is demand and it's sustainable over time,
it would make sense to also expand on this idea and enable it for the remainder of the token, right?
For all the others.
Yeah, I totally agree. I think it changes a lot of things for people. And, you know, when you see accounts like Bobo, myself, and I see some others in there that are also even like top 50 that are working to try and get on the leaderboard, I think it incentivizes the right behavior and encourages people to make good, you know, good conviction followings and be held accountable for it so
thanks again for your time appreciate it and alvin thank you again for having us
you nosh for speaking.
Hello,月牙.
不知道你对刚刚他们讲的就是有没有疑问是
月牙在吗?
她现在好像不太方便说话对 约翰那边现在有点吵
所以可能有些问题我们帮他问就好
对 刚才那个问题要帮大家翻译一下
因为应该这次中文为主嘛
刚才那个NARCH的问题可能大家不知道听没听懂
麻烦毕业了刚才Nudge的问题可能大家不知道听没听懂
麻烦毕业了
OK 刚刚Nudge问了一个问题
就是想问一下 刚刚问了Ultra
就是对于Laudio的实验
想知道就是对今后
一些Pump
对PumpPumpMemcoin
有没有别的影响
然后Ultra这边的回答是
如果这个实验的结果是
证明这一种
就是只降历前
25个人的
机制是可持续的话
是会对今后的Mempoint发币是产生一定影响的
然后以后我们也会看到更多的Mempoint发币会效仿这个做法
对大致的大致的
刚刚他们讨论的内容是这样
想看一下大家还没有别的问题啊那我问最后一个问题吧
就是怎么保证这个游戏
这个3.3游戏一直能持续到最后
因为很多的时候嘛到一定的时候就突然一个断头不好意思你可以再這個這個這個遊戲這個3.3遊戲一直能持續到最後
因為很多的時候嘛
到一定的時候就突然一個斷頭展
那個是沒有聽清是嗎
我想問一下是那個怎麼保證這個最後不是割韭菜的遊戲
因為很多3.33的模型嘛
到最后都是直接一个断头斩
怎么可以保证这个事情就不会发生
就怎么保持这个游戏可能更持久
更长期的让大家继续玩下去好
好好好好好好好好好好比你這邊有說話嗎?呃...OK我這邊網路不太好
剛剛阿寶問了什麼問題
我這邊沒有聽清
他是說怎麼樣確定這個Laudio
未來有這個可持續性
對,因為我們都知道
就是現在的人
呃,有聽到嗎?
現在呢?
Billy,你沒有開麥?
哈囉哈囉
現在可以現在可以現在可以
還是阿寶要直接問Ultra,他的网路可能有点不太行
好呀好呀好呀,那要不要Owen直接帮着问一下
问完了可能我最后一个问题嘛
那就是这个长期发展的这个事情
可能之后可能会有听众有这个follow up question之类的可以帮忙问一下OK,OK,Ultra,OK,Let me askUltra and then you'll hear follow up questions.
Then you can ask me.
Okay, let me ask Ultra directly.
About just ask that how can you guys
to be sure that Laudio will be a sustainable game
for any people interesting to join?
Because many people join many other 333 games previously and got like um lost lots of money
yeah we know so um hello was that was i one ultra all right so uh I understand. Yeah, like there's been many different kind of free games and no one is equal from another, right?
This is not a, I mean, this is being run as an experiment. We don't know the outcome and it's the first time we try something like this. This has never been tried before, right? We are trying to experiment if the attention
on something brings value to it. This is the whole experiment and free free game. The free free game
is between the traders on one side which are paying for marketing and using the best distribution
system in the world for distributing that pot of money.
And on the other side, you have the KOLs,
which have a lot of the power
and have to fight each other to get a share of this pot.
And also they have to, if they want to play it in the best way,
they should incentivize volume, fees,
and also maintain the tokens,
and make sure that it continues to exist forever, in a sense.
It's all a game of coordination,
and we don't really know how that is going to play out.
And the main idea behind why I built it
is because I want to find out myself, right?
It is an experiment after all. You cannot call this a project, you know, like, this is an experiment.
This is the right word to describe what's happening.
Okay, um, I'll just translate it.OK好我稍微翻譯一下Ultra就是说其实
他会想要做
Laudio这个项目
他会把这个当做一个实验
因为他想要
做一个先前没有人
做过的事
就是结合
让注意力去
把奖励分配给参与的人
这样的形式这样子
对所以他
他说他也不知道
未来的结果会是怎么样
对所以他只是觉得说这样子是一个可以促使其他项目方去
调整或者是考虑去做的一个分配奖励的一个方式这样子
对那阿宝他这样有解决到你的疑惑吗
还是你有想要其他想补充的
有的有的这个其实就可能跟大家就是可能跟大家提前的封錢警告嘛
不要太all in,然後退外貿啊
那我們再來看誰還有問題嗎?還是比利這邊OK嗎?
嗯?比例这边OK吗
不只是还有没有人想要提问的也可以直接举手这样子
OK比例好像听不太到
我感觉其实
Loudio的这个项目
蛮有意思
从实验上来说
就是很少看到新东西了
这可能是最近
除了believe之外
可能是唯一有意思
可以来研究
或者来赌一把的东西
我觉得还是蛮值得关注的
但是大家可能就是注意风险
但是可能收益也会是巨大的
对这个东西就看大家对风险的掌控度
千万不要拿超过自己能承受的钱去赌就好了
对对对风险提示一下
对风险提示一下
对因为现在中文玩家应该也會有個疑慮是
其實大部分的獎勵應該都會到英文圈那邊
我們參與的這個機會應該比較少啦
所以我自己也是會看後續怎麼樣發展這樣子
對,就包含一開始的空頭啊
或者是pre-sale有沒有更多細節這樣子
欸,我們先前是不是沒有提到這個pre-sale的問題
感覺可以最後來問他一下 We haven't mentioned pre-sale. I feel like we can ask him.
Hello, Ultra.
Could you share more details about the upcoming pre-sale of the Laudio token?
Thanks. upcoming like preserve the Laudeo token um and thanks yeah as I mentioned I think the best uh thing is to just wait for the article which is coming extremely soon and as I mentioned also in
my tweets today um again I fully understand the position of most yappers, which should not participate in the leaderboard games,
in a sense, right? Once the games begin, some super small accounts cannot access it. There's
no way they can gain top mindshare on the leaderboard. And that's what I want to address
with the initial distribution of the token. I want it to be a community token for the Cato ecosystem in a sense.
Right?
That's kind of the idea behind it and the idea behind distribution mechanics.
Obviously, we've seen a lot of people that talked about loud in these days, and I
think those people should be paid attention to or rewarded in some way.
Also all the wider yapping community because it's not just
about the loud communities,
it's about the wider Cato community.
Everybody in a sense will be rewarded or will get
access to the initial distribution in different ways based on how they supported either Keito or Laud in the past months and days.
But obviously the best way, the best thing to do right now is just wait for the article to come out
which will have all of the details and I'm sure that Alvin will try to translate into Chinese for everyone to understand.
Okay, um,
剛剛 Altra有提到就是說,
他會比較審慎地去做這個 initial distribution,就是
怎麼樣在一開始可以比較大幅度的去空投給
不管是Yappers或者是開頭的Community這樣子
他就強調這個是Community Token嘛 對
那就看說他這幾天有沒有會公佈更多的細節這樣子
因為我們都知道Laudio是有Brisale的
對他是跟那個HoloWorld ABA這個Token的這個項目方合作這樣子 對
好那 AVA token of this project. of setting up the initial distribution, and the initial liquidity sale
or initial token distribution
will happen through HoloLaunch,
which is their launchpad platform.
That's how it's going to work.
Okay, yeah.
Ultra, I'll tell you,
in the future,
the launch of this audio
and the first-time setup
is to be with HoloWorld. The team is doing it.未來即將Launch的這個Audio的設置初始的設置都是跟HoloWorld的團隊一起進行的這樣子
那我們就回答最後一個問題好了
這個Moon Pulse
有聲音嗎?這位Moon Pulse同學 Okay. There's a sound. This is MoonPost. Okay. Let's go. Hi, Ultra.
Thank you so much for your time to participate in this.
I just wanted you to clarify a little bit more on like the incentives of the top 25
KOLs in this program.
So of course, in the crypto space, you can't exactly quality assure, you know, what kind
of top 25 KOLs will make your list and not to like pump and dump.
But is there any like incentive for these top 25 to maintain both the
trading volume and their bag or like prevent like not selling their bag and like crashing the market
before others get a chance to profit
yeah so um for top chaos you know we are going to find out what kind of accounts get attracted by the prize pool.
You know, based on projections or just thinking about it, we will probably see seven figures and rewards in the reward pool for the top 25 in the first week.
So what kind of account would fight for seven figures?
I don't know.
That's something that we are going to find out.
But again, this is a game of coordination
or an experiment on coordination and attention.
The best way that the KOL or the Yapper can play the game
is by maintaining attention on the token
or perhaps purchasing it themselves
and then talking about it or incentivizing volume.
It's all things that we are going to kind of see.
But whenever there is money
and a simple-ish game to play for KOLs and manipulating the narrative so that it benefits
both them. But whenever it benefits them, it also benefits the token. That's kind of the
idea on coordination, right? It's alignment of incentives between the person who talks about it
and the token holder, in a sense, or the speculator.
Yeah, I think that sounds good.
I was wondering, though, do you have any, like,
strategies to manage that potential risk of, you know,
if one goes rogue or a few?
Well, the thing is that why would they go rogue, right?
Because the Cato algorithm does not reward negative posts, right?
So a rogue, I don't think, would be in the sense of talking about something negatively, perhaps.
Perhaps it would mean stopping to talk about it.
But whenever someone stops or takes a break,
there is someone that is willing to take their place, right?
That's how it works.
Even in the case in which the rewards diminish week over week,
if that does happen, there's still smaller accounts
that would talk about and would fight each other for mindshare.
The built-in mechanism kind of ensures that there's always some kind of marketing budget there.
Look, if they decide to not maximize the...
There's two ways to play it for KRL. Either you want to retain the spot and also maintain the longevity of the project
so that they can get paid every single week or they can do it once and if they do it just once,
somebody else will take their place. That's the idea, right? Yeah, okay.
Yeah, okay. Could I also just pick your brains about what made you come up with the 78% distribution? Because that seems like quite a lot.
house which probably have a lot of money already you need to also have a lot of money in front of
them in a sense right you have to dangle a big a big carrot in front of them would Ansem for
example just it was a random name uh talk about loud if the rewards are one thousand dollars
probably not ten thousand dollars maybe not a100,000, maybe $1 million, maybe. That's kind of the idea.
You're going to see different people start talking about it,
different price ranges and maintaining attention
and maybe trying to keep the token up, in a sense,
so they can get paid every single week.
It's a game built for them, but also for the speculators
to perhaps benefit.
It's an experiment, right?
But it's a tool that is also for them.
If they take good care of it through time,
then they can earn a lot as time goes on.
If they just throw it away after a few weeks,
they're also missing out on one of the easiest,
in a sense for them, mechanisms they can use to earn money.
Right.
Sorry, am I taking up too much time? Can I ask one more follow-up question?
Alvin?
Ultra?
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead yeah go ahead so i was wondering um what if it's like what if there's
a case of kind of like a domino effect so let's say you have top 25 kols and they're all super
hyped about the project and they get their first prize pool and they're like in over their heads
and then one of them decides oh you know like maybe this is enough for me and then they decide to sell and then it crashes maybe the token price
and then it's kind of like a domino effect right so then the remaining of the girls also kind of
do the same thing like what is there anything to like you know this has been thought of in the design because as you explained,
all of the fees, the price pool is not in loud tokens.
It's in Solana, right?
So there's no weekly sell-off or anything like that.
It's a simple transaction.
The traders pay in hard cash or in Sol or marketing.
And on the other side, the marketers get paid in real cash every single week
that's why it's so attractive to them because they're the the payout is not tied to the
um price of the token but to the price of solana right right okay
okay i think that's it for me thank you so much
awesome好 我认为这就是我 谢谢你太棒了我想给大家解释一下机制
它的这个Price 2 25人领都是Solana
没有代币的
唯一可能就是这个HOW 85他自己买了很多
他自己不想喊了把币卖
但这个可能就市场博弈的情况了
和他这个收益是无关的
这25个人分的就是那个交易手续费
都是Solana
所以问题不大如果有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人會有一個人當有人不想玩了,他離開了Top25的Yappers就會有其他想要加入的人去Yapp
然後去拿到每週分配的獎勵
他有提到說可能第一週會是一個最
大家也知道獎勵最多的時候
可能會是6-7位數的這種規模
所以他也希望藉由這個方式去吸引到最大的CT這樣子
對,那我覺得就是說看之後的這個
嗯...開盤還有D座的狀況是怎麼樣吧
那再來呢
我們今天這個Space其實也進行了一個小時多
對,看Bini這邊的網路OK嗎?
可以說些話
是不是還是壞掉了好
那我们就
还有一位同学
他有举手
我们来请他发问一下
哈喽哈喽可以听到吗OK在美国我是双语的所以也希望能够给你们多沟通这个约压也约压
很多大咖也帮我推荐
说你们这个挺好的
让我兴趣加入你们这个组织
就是能够得到提升
你没有问题吗OK好 You have a problem?
Okay, okay.
Do you have any other students?
Okay, I think that's the end of this space.
Thanks, Ultra for coming, and comingAnd reply all the questions we ask
Appreciate that
謝謝大家
Good Chinese
謝謝Fiddly
Ok ok
如果有問題可以釀我
Ok ok
大家如果還有問題的話都可以再詢問Ultra
好的也預祝這個大家如果還有問題的話都可以再詢問Ultra是的好的
也預祝Audeo可以發展的順利
那我們今天就到這邊吧
感謝大家
