Mainnet is LIVE! | DIamante | Quantum Resilience Cryptography for everyone.

Recorded: March 11, 2026 Duration: 1:10:05
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From wherever you're at, it's got to be good morning somewhere for someone.
I know for me, it's afternoon.
But either way way we appreciate you
tuning in being here uh very very historic day uh in in my mind uh for diamante to be launching
uh mainnet going live um blue tiger what's up bro can you hear me
yes sir can hear you perfectly well.
Good, good. Glad to have you back up here with us, man.
Excited for today.
I thought we were going to get going last week and then, you know, a lot of things out of our control.
But we are finally here.
For me, the journey hasn't been very long, but I know for the DM team it has been.
So I'm excited to talk to CJ and see what he's been up to, what is his worldly travels, what he's learned on those.
And, you know, excited to explore mainnet launch here a little bit more.
So glad you're here with us, though, bro.
Yeah, definitely.
Huge, huge, huge day.
As you were saying, definitely longer for the team.
But it all comes down to this and then the start of a new chapter.
Very excited as well to share the panel with CJ.
I've heard you guys many, many times.
And, of course, follow CJ in DM for a while. But very excited to be the panel with CJ. I've heard you guys many, many times and of course follow CJ in DM
for a while, but very excited
to be here with you guys and it's going to be a
great space.
what's up, bro? How we doing?
Uh-oh. Is CJ here with us?
It's going to be just me and you.
I don't mind that, but
yeah, let's go. Hey, we you i don't mind that but yeah let's go hey he's just his mic
yeah we'll run it either that or he probably thought the music would keep playing a little
bit longer um you know and then uh but it's all right we'll uh we can shoot the shit until he ends
up getting here um with you creating with dm and doing all these things like has that like grown
your audience change things like have people been in your dms asking what like what is even quantum
computing because i know it's it's done it's done it for me like it's it's engaged more conversation
around it yeah i mentioned in one of the my tweets, like a couple of weeks ago, like quantum is becoming
way more trending
in the timeline, not only with my tweets, but I've
been seeing it a lot more.
With Vitalik as well mentioning it, like
Ethereum being flawed in the quantum
side of things.
Like people are way more aware.
It's just the acting that I think is
not as fast or not as accelerated as they should.
As in thinking like quantum computing and like the quantum threads are still like way ahead,
but it's sooner than people actually realize.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
The comparison that I like to make is that when you look at the way people perceived Bitcoin early on, it's the same kind of narrative.
It's not the same narrative, but it's the same mindset.
People just look at it as though it's like, yeah, we're not taking this serious right now.
You know what I mean?
And that's the way I look at it.
Quantum computing
is the same way. CJ unmuted
and then he g'd it off the stage.
He's gone.
Here he comes.
Let me bring him back up.
You can get Coco. If not,
she's always a great speaker.
CJ, do we have you?
Uh-oh. CJ!
He's up here as a speaker.
I think it might work for a second.
Yeah, I know. It worked for just a second
and then he
was gone again.
Yeah, maybe his Wi-Fi. That sometimes
happens to me. If I turn to data,
it works. Yeah. That sometimes happens to me. If I turn to data, it works.
I don't think it's his account.
Bro, I don't understand it.
Elon is building the biggest...
He's building giga centers everywhere.
XAI, all these fascinating things.
Cars that can drive us.
But they cannot fix X spaces.
He cannot get it right, man.
He's been forever.
I do not understand it.
I've been hosting Spaces now for probably over five years.
And every week, it's something new.
Yeah, even with getting audio to play through, like music and stuff.
So today, I downloaded the music to my Rodecaster,
and then I think it came across a lot clearer than it normally would have.
But yeah, definitely a pain in the butt.
CJ, it shows you back as a speaker.
Are you with us?
Every time I'm trying to, you know, connect as a speaker, everything is getting mute.
So I have no audio anymore.
Well, you can hear us though, right?
Yeah, now it's good.
Well, good.
All right.
Well, let's get the party started, sir.
It's good to hear from you again.
First off, it's been a few weeks.
I know you've been out traveling the world, you know, hard at work.
Uh-oh, did we lose him?
I think we lost him again.
Oh, that was fun.
That was a good ride.
That was a couple of minutes.
No, I did.
All right, cool. Thanks. that was a good that was a good ride that's a couple of minutes okay all right cool um
yeah so um the last time we spoke this was i don't know maybe three four weeks ago uh you were
going to be leaving to go to hong kong you were going to be leaving then you had to go from there
then you were going straight to east denver uh all while trying to get ready for mainnet uh today we're here mainnet's going
live i think here's shortly um during the space is is what i'm being told so uh it it's an exciting
day i mean like what does this mean to you as a founder and someone who's been been trying to
push the quantum you know uh, protection narrative this entire time?
So the thing is, it's not going to be live.
It's already live.
Oh, is it?
Yeah, we just created the history, not just a history for Diamond and DM itself, but the
history has been created for the whole Web3 crypto space.
We are already live more than half an hour back.
So the world's first quantum proof mainnet has gone live.
You can go to the Explorer.
The Explorer is live as well.
You can see the first block that has already been mentored
so and this is uh explorer explorer.diamente.io correct yes that's correct yeah nice um wow okay
well i wasn't expecting that i thought we were gonna i thought somebody was gonna be hitting the button firework yeah i thought yeah so i'd like yeah can you explain like what does that mean for
the for the chain to go live because obviously you've been in test net you've been doing all
that like what is it is what is it is it somebody just sitting there next to a red button and they
just hit go like that that's what i'm envisioning in my mind. Can you break it down for everyone
that doesn't understand this?
Absolutely.
Before I break it down,
the listeners can go to
explorer.diamondhead.io,
click on the quant button,
and you would see exactly
the first block that has gone live.
And already you can see the block heights and everything.
So that's something that is amazing.
We have been speaking since months that, you know, we are going to go live with Mainnet,
but this is not something that we are going live.
We have already been live.
So it's an amazing achievement that what
we have done and it's like production grade we are not like speculating okay we are going to go live
so every transaction every brock every validator signature on diamond day right now is being
secured with quantum cryptography so So that means the quantum computers
wouldn't be able to break the cryptography
that diamond possesses.
And that's a really, really big achievement.
And I would like to add more on that.
So since we last were on this basis together,
there have been huge developments.
And this is not by accident or something, but the timing is really perfect. So like
FBI, CISA and NIST, they literally declared 2026 as the year of quantum security. It's like just a month ago.
Wow. The mandate is currently like that the federal agencies should start working on creating
the post-quantum capability products.
And that's really, really amazing.
Yeah, I know we're seeing more um i think i've seen in the last eight months i think i've seen
donald trump in different interviews or different uh different where he's at different heads of
state in different countries and quantum computing has been talked about um they are either partnering with another country uh doing something where they are
stepping into the realm of of uh of quantum computing and the last time we had spoke about
this it it was you know it the belief is that only major countries are going to have access
to quantum computers uh initially is that Is that a fair statement or no?
Yes, that's absolutely a fair statement.
Every major country is going to have that quantum capabilities.
And imagine the vulnerabilities that are going to come with the current infrastructure,
because we have been utilizing infrastructure that was designed and architected like 20 years ago.
Yeah, that's what we were talking about with Arjit
is that, and David mentioned it,
like a lot of the technology
that is still being used actively right now
is like 20, 20, 20, some odd years ago, like 22 years ago.
It's like that old that everything is essentially built on.
And the amount of exposure that every website, every just anything that's built on the Internet has just massive amount of exposure right now.
Yeah, everything is uh everything is exposed like
exposed yeah the and i think a lot of that and we talked about this last time was that
we're going to start seeing more and more institutions coming on chain
so banking institutions we're we're already seeing, you know, Wall Street, like, but none
of these brands are talking, none of these institutions are talking about quantum security.
Why do you think that is?
That's not right. A lot of them are talking about quantum security, but that's behind
the curtains of the moment. So we have been having, you know,
insane amount of conversations with a lot of institutions and a lot of custodial providers as well.
And everyone has not just started talking about quantum,
but they are figuring out ways in terms of how they could make
those custodies of the cryptos,
of the assets of their clients more and more secure.
And we have seen a huge request coming through us in terms of how we were going to get the quantum
minute live. But something that we did today, and that's really firing me up, is like we went live
today. So that conversations are potentially going to convert into partnerships. So you would see a huge amount of partnerships being announced with a lot of institutions.
And Diamond is only layer one out there that is running quantum safe cryptography at the protocol level.
So it's like not a feature flag and it's not something, an optional vault that we have built.
not as something, an optional wall that we have built.
So that would mean that with the mainnet getting live
and those conversations that are behind the doors
that are going to flood in mainstream,
and that's going to change a lot of things for the Web3 space
in a very, very positive way.
Yeah, and we're already seeing it.
I spoke to Arjit about this, and I wanted to get your opinion on it.
The last time that Vitalik had, they had tweeted about the Ethereum Foundation,
that they were doing four different upgrades, you know, that they were looking,
they were planning on, you know. They haven't done them yet because when I was looking it up,
it was kind of like a timeframe of like seven to 10 years
it would take the ETH Foundation to actually implement
some of the stuff that he was talking about.
And we had talked about it briefly in the last space
that this would end up being something that's kind of difficult for Ethereum to do, right?
Yeah, it's absolutely going to be really difficult for Ethereum to achieve those post-quantum cryptography measures.
And what they are projecting right now that they would go by 2030.
So I'm not sure if they're going to ship it on the right planet or something.
But we today shipped it.
So we are really ahead of the curve.
And that is what matters.
Yeah, which is really massive.
I mean, you're first.
You're not last.
So that's a good thing. You guys have kind of looked into a crystal ball,
seen the problems that were coming years in advance,
started building for the future of that.
And now you have such a large head start because every other major chain
that everyone in this room deals with every day,
whether it's ETH, Solana, AVAX.
Nobody has any quantum-resistant protection on their chain right now.
It's literally only Diamante, and that's it.
Yeah, that's it.
People might talk about, you know,
they'll think about it later
when the threat is uh going to be actually alive or like it's going to be real but you see the
global dynamics and how the you know global global economics work as well like we have had multiple
examples like that is not something that's going to knock your door and say okay are you prepared
or not it's just going to hurt and that is what we are seeing in the world right now
you know we have been really surprised by the you know a lot of global unstability right now
and no one predicted that it just hits and that's exactly how quantum is going to hurt
and no one is going to be ready other than people who are already using diamond team
And no one is going to be ready other than people who are already using Diamond Team.
And well, and I was asking Arjun about this as well.
We're seeing, you know, obviously a massive, massive boost in people using AI and Claudebot and all these different things.
But you see how fast that's evolving.
And just even just from a few months ago to where we're at now
every day there's new apps being built there's new tech being built uh things that people never
even thought could happen so fast are happening do you think the scale once you know quantum
really takes control like it's gonna go even faster than what we're seeing with AI in its current state?
Yes, 100%.
It's going to be even faster
because we have been adapting to a lot of things
in a much, much faster way
than we were adapting like 10 years back.
And the scale in which we have been evolving, tech has been evolving it's going to be much
faster we need to be more and more adaptive more and more vigilant in terms of what we see as a
threat and that's exactly what we are doing and when you see right now like imagine 2.4 trillion
worth of assets are sitting on a legacy encryption. So it's a huge, huge risk.
So it's like, it's not something that is speculative. Like when people talk about
quantum computing, they're definitely here. And we as an entity, we as a company, we envisioned this
like almost three years back, we started building on top of it. And right now, today, we as a company, we envisioned this like almost three years back, we started
building on top of it. And right now, today we are sitting on a live network. So that is something
that people should really, really take into consideration when they think about, okay,
what's the right time? So the right time was yesterday, not even today.
time. So the right time was yesterday, not even today.
Yeah, just as well, CJ, and it is great to hear that many institutions and new
partnerships have come in Diamante's way. I wanted to ask as well on the testnet
users, what are the benefits versus someone joining today or tomorrow? I mean, I think
they'll still be early because Mainnet just launched today,
but what's the difference between testnet users that have been using it for months
versus someone, a new one today or tomorrow?
So we had a huge pool of users trying out our testnet,
trying out our testnet, making sure everything was fine,
making sure everything was fine, contributing to it.
contributing to it.
And for that contribution, they were really rewarded quite well.
And in terms of mainnet, people are still, you know,
more than welcome to start utilizing and testing out
different capabilities of the mainnet that we have launched.
They can come scrutinize us.
They can even host the mainnet nodes.
And every action that is connected to mainnet
has a certain reward pool that's going to be soon announced.
So we are making sure while we are building one of the coolest tech,
while we have built one of the coolest tech, while we have built one of the coolest tech, we make sure our community has an immense value out of it.
So that's what exactly we are focused on so that we can reach out to each and every individual who has ever interacted with blockchain or crypto,
they can definitely benefit on what we have been building
and what we have launched.
Yeah, no, definitely.
And there's so much information that you guys put out.
Like the team is always very active.
There's a couple of tweets per day.
And do you think it might be a little bit overwhelming
for someone that just found out about Diamante today
or a few days ago?
Like, could you guide someone to a one-page
or a simple step-by-step what to do
if you're new to Diamante today?
Or, I mean, there's so much valuable information
with the docs, the website, the white paper,
all of the tweets, the Discord.
So, like, the team is very active.
Is there something that you can point out directly for someone that is new?
Yes, absolutely.
You know, I would always say to any individual that is new to Diamante, there is a new listener to us,
and they want to explore what Diamante is exactly doing about about the first important thing is to do their own research everyone should do a proper research
before anything or entering into anything because web 3 you know we had had every one of us who is
listening to this or even all of us we had like pretty you know bad experience in the past so we should make sure
that we are doing proper research even before you know just trying to farm something or claim
something but once they do the research they can go to explorer.diamondtay.io they can go to our
testnet they can go to our mainnet. They can go to a main net, start interacting with that.
And as you rightly mentioned, our team is very active.
We are posting regularly.
So we are going to soon pin up a post in terms of how people can interact with the main net,
with the exact steps, and how they can benefit out of it.
and how they can benefit out of it.
Some of the stuff that we were talking with Arjit about
is the products that are going to come out in the coming months.
We're going to see the Dexpop.
We're going to see the QVPN.
VPN. You had mentioned the payment services. How are all
You had mentioned the payment services.
these things going to revolve around the itself the token?
When or what what what use cases are we going to start seeing
in play here?
So as a network, our vision is to ship products that has actual
utility for users and not ship something
that we want to push it to them. So let's talk about the VPN, right? Every one of us has some
somewhere or other during our daily lives, we use VPN.
And VPN is quite important for someone to make calls
or for someone to make sure they're protected,
their identity is protected when they're browsing.
And imagine at Diamante, we are shipping a VPN
that has the same quantum resilience.
So, and how DM would interact with it
is like we are integrating the DM wallet
along with the quantum VPN.
So the people who are holding, holders of DM,
they would get a lot of access,
a lot of feature access that others need to pay.
So DM is going to be very, very beneficial as an asset.
It's not a financial advice,
but if you are trying to use the apps
within the Diamond ecosystem.
So QVPN is just one of the examples to it.
And when we talk about, let's say, the payment ecosystem
that's going to soon go live within the diamond ecosystem,
so you would be able to redeem your tokens to pay fees,
to make sure you have a discounted fees.
And imagine a payment ecosystem that gets live on the quantum network has the same
encryption in terms of the security. So it's not going to be ECDS anymore. It's going to be a
quantum level security that we are going to bring on the encryption side, even on the payments ecosystem.
Yeah, so every app built, every product built, released,
will have the same quantum resilient protection.
So you're telling me I'm going to be able to cancel my NordVPN?
That's, you know, ridiculous.
And use my QVPN at that point absolutely yeah because i don't i don't really
don't get a lot out of the nord one yeah i'm pretty sure you are holding a bunch of dms and
that would be really beneficial for you utilizing qvpn so nice there is no second point will there
be different thresholds depending on the amount of DM you're holding that gives you more access to more products, to different tiers of the products, things of that nature? Is that how it's going to kind of play?
and you're getting different tier accesses to it,
that's definitely going to be there.
But additional to that,
the more you are going to utilize
and more you're going to interact with the QVPN
or any other products that we have in the ecosystem,
it's going to be more rewarding to you.
So that means the more you're utilizing QVPN
and not the non-VPN,
you're going to make sure you are getting good rewards
out of QVPN.
And DM is something that has always been rewarding.
And that's the overall vision that we possess
that we want to make sure every individual
that is interacting with any ecosystem apps
or dApps that are within Diamond Day,
they are not just getting rewarded by just holding DMs,
but when they are utilizing our products,
you are getting additional benefits out of it.
Yeah, that would be great to be able to take my DM,
stake it or earn rewards, some type of DeFi returns there.
And then at the same time, when I connect to vpn or i connect to my dm pay
things like that it recognizes it knows what i have on the protocol it allows me to interact
with certain apps at certain tier levels um and gives me more access to better products
uh just for holding my token but at the same time not only am i getting the products
just for holding my token.
But at the same time, not only am I getting the products,
I'm also getting rewarded by, you know,
not so much locking my DM up,
but, you know, having it in some manner
of a DeFi rewarding system.
Is that what we're going to kind of be seeing?
Or is it a different narrative than that?
that's exactly what you guys are going to see interacting with the
ecosystem apps.
Cause like when I look at the ecosystem products,
I'm on the website right now.
It's diamante.io.
If anybody has never been there,
there's credit circle,
the DM wallet,
DM pay, mintify token
tools uh you know there's so much stuff here uh and i know this is just scratching the surface
i know not every product is live yet and it's going to be rolling out according to what
arjit was saying um out of the products that you guys are developing and have developed so far, which one do you think is going to be the most impactful to Diem?
Every product that we build at Diamante has a certain vision and a certain audience to it.
a certain audience to it.
But the most impactful product that we are shipping
that's gonna be beneficial to the ecosystem
and also beneficial to the users,
in my personal perspective, it's gonna be Dexport.
So imagine you could wipe code using AI,
create a beautiful application that is really useful to
in particular individual or an entity. You can tokenize that DAP that is built
on top of Diamond Day and you can launch it on the perpdex. That's Diamond
as perpdex. So that's something that's going to be really, really interesting.
And as a Diamante ecosystem,
we are going to soon announce a grant program as well.
So imagine shipping some cool products with no code,
tokenizing it,
and doing some gamification on top of it
to make sure that you are, you know,
getting good rewards for the product that you have built.
So it's like, you know,
love a bulk put together with pump.fun
and you have immense possibilities
in terms of what you can achieve.
Yeah, imagine a university student, you know,
wanting to build something that easily builds an app within a couple of days, launches it on top of Diamante, tokenize it, and make sure he's putting it on the decks and start running out of it. So every app that'll be launched
will have a token tied to it
on Diamante through the Dexpop.
And then that's how the developer
of that app or that program,
whatever they build in,
doesn't matter if you're building
a creator program or a DeFi program
or whatever it is, it doesn't matter.
These things will eventually lead back to rewards,
back to the end user, the creator of that app.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and I think that's pretty smart to do the grant.
We've seen other products that instead of doing grants,
they'll do grants, but they'll also
do competitions. They'll do
vibe coding competitions or
app competitions,
have the community voting on it,
and really
putting it to the test to see
who can build the top
app on there
and rewarding out the
other participants in some
manner. I think that would drive a lot of hype to Diamante if that was, you know, something you guys
were looking at as well. So we would like to value products that are built with real metrics, like,
okay, voting, community voting is definitely a good metric
but no matter no matter better than imagine let's say so the how our grant program is going to work
i'll just give you a small example to it let's if diamond day is awarding a grant of let's
100 000 to a particular project that is launched so it's going to be on the liquidity side of it
when someone is trying to launch DAP
or the token on the Diamond Index.
So if we have given a grant of $100,000
and if that particular token that is launched
on top of Diamond T gets the volume that is real volume
of users, you know, buying their token more than $100,000.
So on that basis, there are some certain metrics that we are going to release that initial
liquidity tokens given as grant to the builders.
So that would definitely make sure if you have a good product market fit
you're already a winner
yeah 100 because like we we've seen uh i'm not sure if you're familiar who pop punk is he created
a prediction market where anybody can create a prediction market And he ended up winning a grant for it.
And he has a token tied to it that was launched.
That's connected to the app.
And just because, and here's the thing that I think of, like when, when you're creating
is like, just because a product exists, doesn't mean that the product or the app or whatever
can't be improved.
You as an end user might take a
prediction market i'm just using it as an example um and put your own twist on it your own spin on
it and you know different mechanics and different gamified things that you could do to it but then
also you know you could launch that and it'd be successful you just have to grab a piece of the
mind share or the the market share of that product.
It doesn't necessarily have to be number one.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
It just needs to be able to grab,
because there's so many things that happen in Web3
that everyone duplicates.
And everyone, they just build on top of an existing product.
And it always gains some type of mind share and a little piece of the
market you know but the one thing that nobody can do yet is you know or hasn't done is launched a
uh an l1 quantum resilient chain except diamantes so it's like you know you guys are killing it man um i i'm uh i'm genuinely excited
for anyone that's that's wanting to look into this more i'm dropping comments in the spaces
uh i've i've dropped the link for the explorer i've dropped the link for
the website uh you could also go to dm's twitter account and go through the link tree
there if you feel more comfortable that way um you know that's that's another thing like somebody
could literally build something that verifies links are safe like instantly and put a token
on it like you know what i mean so somebody was new here didn't know me
and they're like oh well yeah he's putting these links in there but i don't want to click on that
i want to go to the official site it's like boom you know you could create something that gives
people that sense of security on top of you know a secure network so uh you know a lot of creative
ideas are going to come out of this.
And when I originally seen the Dex Pop, that was probably the one thing that I was most excited about because I don't know how to code.
You know, I have friends that are setting up Claude bots constantly.
And it's like, I don't even know how to do that.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, yeah, they're like, watch a video, do this, do that you know what i mean so it's like yeah they're like watch a video do this do that but it seems like you guys with dex pop it's going to be an effortless way to build an app if
you have the if you have the framework there um and you'll be able to create it now that is also going to be a token that's a that that will be a token gated product correct
yeah okay all right yeah so that's that and that's and that's what i was figuring
so like but like when you look at a clawed bite you have so much usage that you can use within a
day uh or in a week how is the dex pop going to differ from that
is there any details you can give us
so i i don't want to go into too much depth in terms of what exactly is gonna you know
be required in terms of the usage and everything but But like, for example, there are certain limits
to Cloud or ChatGPT or any other AI tools
that we have access to.
So in similarly, there is certain limitations
in terms of how we are gonna interact with the DexPOP
while you're wipe coding.
And if you want to unlock certain features
or have more time with it,
if you want more usage on top of that,
the DM is going to be a key thing.
So the more and more DM that you can hold,
that's going to be much easier for you guys
or anyone listening to just build,
wipe code, tokenize it,
and just launch it on the next server.
DM is going to be a crucial thing.
So that is something, like it's not 100% gated,
but DM makes sure that you are passing certain levels
to achieve what you want.
So you were recently traveling, i would you know because i i love the behind
the scenes of things i love hearing like back-end conversations things that like we wouldn't normally
be privy to and i'm not asking for like you know what exact names or who said what but you were
recently in hong kong then you went to east denver dm actually
co-hosted a private dinner uh with with a big crowd of people um from all different areas of
web 3 like what was the what was the conversations like with with these people uh you know irl because
we're some of them looking at you crazy and being like, bro,
we're so far away from that, you know, what's going on.
Or were some of them genuinely shocked that DM was actually, you know,
the first quantum resilient chain going live. Like how,
how did people react to you?
So both were a different set of events like for example like consensus or like
it's more institutional money talking to institutional money kind of a why
where you clear where i clearly saw like that people were in the mindset that the hype cycle
is over like people wanted to see revenues see users users, what's the regulatory clarity in terms of what project you are building.
So what I believe that the era where we saw like a white paper with a 50 million valuation,
raising funds from investors without any proper fundamentals and everything,
just on the hype side of it that's 100 over now people are looking to
see you know real products real traction real compliance for example like when i had a lot of
conversations regarding diamond 10 dm on the quantum side of it i also saw a lot of conversation
around the compliance side of it are you guys mikaECA compliant? And yes, we are. Then do you guys have any patents
in terms of projections that you're doing?
And are you really quantum resilient?
Are you following any good standards?
So yes, Diamond Day is following the NIST standards.
And that's the goal standards for quantum security.
And so those kinds of conversations are also coming into the picture.
And when we talk about, let's say,
it then we had an amazing, amazing event,
amazing dinner with really, really good folks,
the pioneers within the crypto space.
But the vibe at it then is completely different.
It's like small crowds.
Excuse me.
It's like you don't see a lot of tourists there.
Like Denver is something I would feel like it's very important to visit on the bear market side of it.
And that's exactly where we were when I was visiting there.
Because it's like you filter out the noises out of it.
You see actual builders.
Like there were a lot of people building on AI agent side of it.
People have a lot of clarity on what is SEC crypto task force.
And a lot of people, I was pretty much shocked,
like a lot of people had already started talking about quantum. there were a couple of events uh there was a quantum conference happening
so more and more quantum security were coming up to conversations and that's something that
was really really exciting and when you see like people like Coinbase, they have an advisory board and those people are visiting the events, like East Dan Ward, that means serious business.
Oh, some of those people were out there from the Coinbase advisory board?
year wow yeah that's that's pretty interesting because i a lot of these companies they'll flash
some names and mit this and harvard and whatever you know what i mean and then it just kind of
goes quiet so it's interesting that they have people like you know boots on the ground and
they're active within the web3 community so that's pretty cool sure the office ej did you talk with
any of them did Did they approach you?
Is that one of your partnerships that you're talking about that is coming?
This is going to happen soon?
I hope so.
I don't want to leave this much on it, but yeah.
Yeah, that's great to hear that.
They're real builders.
I've heard a lot of great things about eDember.
They're very knowledgeable, the tech savvy, not just
the ones that show off. They went to an event and take a couple of photos and putting them on Twitter.
Did you find the right people? Did they approach you directly? Was this dinner that you made with
introduction.com and a few others? What you expected? what did it over deliver, what you were thinking, how was
it in general?
Yeah, so I would
just like to add to your point on
taking pictures and posting it.
Don't forget the
free goodies. Also important, of course,
just to end the merch.
Everybody's there for free goodies, bro.
Let's go. Only reason I'm going.
And just on a lighter note, we hosted one event in Japan.
So we saw, like, people from every age coming up with big bags to our booth and just drawing free goodies.
Like, we were out of our free goodies, like, for six hours.
We had to take a free event.
Yeah. They're not terrians take a free event. Yeah.
They're not terrians.
That's hilarious.
Free events are, you know, always for free goodies.
They take a free suitcase just to fill it up with free stuff from the events.
Now, coming back to your question, like, yeah, we had, we had really, really good conversations
and we are continuously, you know, in following in the follow-up conversations with a lot
of folks, a lot of institutions, a lot of builders that are really, really, you know,
interested, especially on the institutional side of it, because a lot of institutions
want to, you know, allocate their time and effort and their
funds in the next gen tech and diamond is definitely what exactly they are looking for
so you would see a huge amount of announcements coming in in next coming weeks and months how
the institutional landscape is going to change. Their mindset has definitely, you know,
diverted more towards the security side of it.
And that's exactly what, as an entity, we provide.
Yeah, no, very exciting times ahead.
And I saw as well that the abstract team
was also on that dinner.
I mean, the ML and separately, but combined,
you both have a lot of users,
a lot of distribution channels
to provide valuable information.
So that could be a very interesting synergy as well,
an expansion and including the quantum side of things
into their chain.
I'll be looking forward to that partnership announcement very soon, hopefully.
Or something else.
Yeah, and talking about dinners, you know,
we are also hosting
other couple of events,
like private dinners,
during the New York
And we have a huge
and insane amount of institution that are already
signed up to it.
That's the reason we had to do a couple of events.
Just not one event.
do you find it better?
Obviously you have like a lot of brands,
they have to go to these events.
They have to go speak on stages and sometimes the rooms are full. Sometimes they're not.
We're seeing conferences are kind of the,
the attendance numbers are dropping dramatically,
but it's the side events. I think where the, where,
where the magic happens, you know, it's,
it's the more personal one-on-one talks, the conversations.
Do you like that better than, than the, the, the, the speaking circuit?
Absolutely. You know, personally, I'm not a bd guy you know i cannot you know go and reach out to a lot of people and
say what we are doing and so for me and i think for a lot of folks out there the private events
the site events are much much much better. And that's exactly
what we are doing. We have hosted private dinners with only 20, 25 people. When I took in 20,
49 in Singapore, we do the same. We did the same in Dubai. We did the same in Denver. And we are
doing the same in New York. And that's something that is really working for us. And that is really
working for a lot of people
out there like people like to connect in a very cozy environment where they can do real business
and not just you know have the noises around yeah not have the noise the the the hoopla of the event
being pulled this way that way uh not you know not having a clear focus because if you're in a room talking
to 200 people probably 60 of them are looking at their xv to see if they're missing a meme coin or
looking in their telegram or whatsapp or whatnot and you know those one-on-one conversations are
are pretty significant so um you talk about new york i know we have um i think i mean there's a lot of stuff happening
obviously bitcoin 2026 you have consensus coming uh to miami are we gonna see is dm gonna be in
miami for consensus or no hopefully yes okay um in uh permissionless is what you're talking about for new york right
and no it's a digital asset summit i think that is going to be one of the biggest summit
the biggest real value conferences of the year well in new york is the you know the um
you know the money capital of the world right so that's where everything
kind of flows through uh it's only right that you guys are there um you know trying to talk
to as many institutions as possible how big of an event is that you said you've already had a lot of
people sign up um for that like it is there a way for others that are within the community, people that are wanting to build?
I know Arjit said that there's going to be a full SDK
for other builders in the space that can easily build on Diem.
Is that going to be something that's accessible
to someone that may be listening that says,
hey, I'm going to be in New York.
I want to be there.
How do they reach out?
How do they connect and make that happen?
So it's basically not an open public event,
like it's a small private dinners that we are hosting.
But soon we are going to announce a more public event as well,
where we would be inviting a lot of builders to interact with us,
to interact with the team.
So that's going to be a different setting that we are going to make sure that we are,
you know, giving back to the community,
giving back to the builders community
in terms of what we have built,
passing our knowledge down to them
so that, you know, we can make sure
that we as a network keep on growing
with the continuous contribution
that the community brings to us.
Yeah. How important is that for you, for the events that you can't attend or other team
members can't attend? How important is that for you to constantly have a presence at some of these
events though, and showing up to different side events and parties and, you know, is that important
for the DM team to always stay in the conversation and, you know, that important for the the dm team to always stay in the
conversation and then in you know at the top of the narrative yeah it's important you know show
up phases so we have a lot of team members going through different parts of the world for events
but for me personally as a founder at a DM firm,
it's all about, you know,
how I can grow DM as a brand, as a business.
So for me, it's like only business focus.
And it's not about, you know,
showing up to multiple events.
Where there is value,
I want to dedicate my time over there
so that ultimately I'm giving that value
back to the diamond taker system.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, in you as the founder, yeah, you have to be,
you have to be locked in.
You have to be in these meetings with institutions and whether it's banks or
builders or just even investors and people that are wanting to support the
brand and support, you know, what you guys have built,
because what you guys have built is, I mean, this is pretty,
this is an historic moment. And I don't think,
I think a lot of people might overlook it.
And then six months from now or a year from now,
or even two weeks from now, they're going to look back and be like, shit,
I remember them. Why did I not look into that? Why did I not focus?
You know, what was I doing? And, um, you know, I think the, the,
the quantum conversation is going to grow just as fast as quantum computing does, you know,
and, and people are going to start, start worrying about how secure their, their,
their assets are, you know, it's going to be, it's, it's going to be kind of like an eye-opening moment,
I think, for a lot of people.
I do think, well, just one last thing
to add to that,
and it's from one of the spaces
that you guys had last month,
where CJ said that quantum computers
will predict your 2FA within nanoseconds.
I think it's more on that side
of making it into real-life scenarios
when people will be actually terrified and might take immediate action before or when something like that happens.
So hopefully most take action early and be proactive, but we know how history is and most probably repeat and it will be last minute.
At least the DM is prepared and today's a big day.
You know, I completely relate to that so i would like to say you don't build the bunkers when the war starts you start building it before
yeah that's a good that's a that's a that's a that's definitely a good uh a good one there
yeah um i thought you were going to say something else.
I didn't want to interrupt, but that was pretty clear.
Yeah, I didn't think of it about that.
All right.
Well, CJ, like what can you tell us, you know,
to expect from Diem within the next month or two?
What does the roadmap look like moving
forward uh for for the community investors builders uh what what are we going to see in the coming
weeks and months ahead so uh with the may not getting live today we are going to start shipping
a lot of products after a week of testing because we are going to make sure that all the DApps that we have built are quite
stable before shipping it to the community.
So we will see a pipeline of DApps that we have in the ecosystem,
like Dexpop, the QVPN, the payment ecosystem that we have in the next couple of months.
That's something that's going to be very, very interesting and very, very exciting for us as an entity and for the people within the
ecosystem as well. And then we are going to make sure that we are opening up our documents, our
network to a lot of builders to start contributing on top of it, start building on top of it. And
builders to start contributing on top of it, start building on top of it.
And alongside when they are building something, we are going to make sure that they are going
to be rewarded of the time they are putting to it.
So that's something that's going to be a really cool thing.
Very interactive ecosystem, interactive dashboard, the explorers and everything.
dashboard, the explorers and everything. So I'm really excited for it.
So I'm really excited for it.
Yeah. This is a lot of, a lot of, a lot of hard work.
A lot of late hours. What has it been?
Cause I think it's been what,
like eight or nine years that you started this company, right?
Yeah. Back in 2018.
Yeah. And the, like, you know,
to be that far ahead of the game is, is kind of wild. Um, you know, most people say they're OGs and, uh, in, in, in this space, but I mean, that's, that's pretty forward thinking. Um, and you know, for you guys to stick it out, because I would imagine a lot of early investors, a lot of people were like, yeah, whatever.
It's like this isn't something we're worried about right now.
And then seeing the way the landscape has changed, like from your perspective, has it been, I mean, it has to be a massive shift, right?
Like from the early days?
Yeah, it has been a massive shift, but the vision was always clear. We always wanted to focus on building something that is of actual use to
retail and institution both, and particularly in terms of security and privacy. so that's exactly what we have done we have been quite focused and we have
you know a wonderful team that is working day in day out to make sure that what we are building is
one of the best in the world yeah no and i and i i 100 am excited for this. You know, when we had Arjun on,
he said it was going to be this week.
We didn't know the exact date,
or at least he didn't tell us the exact day.
He probably knew it,
but I knew it was going to be a big week for the brand.
I knew it was going to be a big week for the team.
And, you know,
but just because mainnet launch doesn't mean that dm's gonna stop
you know what i mean uh this is this is just a very small step like this is just bringing years
of work um you know fully on chain and the parties i mean essentially just getting started there's so
much more down the line that uh that we're gonna to see and a lot and a lot of great products what i'm really excited about is seeing what what people can
build with dex bob um i want to see where that goes because i think that's going to be really
exciting and i think it's going to provide a lot of growth uh for diem i think that's i mean just
think cj you could you could have ended up building not only the first quantum resilient L1, but then you could end up having someone build.
And it could be anybody in this room.
It could be anybody in the world.
But someone build, you know, potentially one of the most used apps protected by your chain.
Like that is meant just the thought of that happening is just, that's pretty exciting stuff.
You know, so hats off to you guys for not giving up
and continuing to push forward.
And, you know, whether people are paying enough attention right now,
I think they will be as the products start rolling out
and things start coming.
I think this is going to be, it's just nothing but, um, you know, milestone after milestone from this point.
So congratulations to you guys once again.
Um, is there anything that we did not cover?
I know we're past the hour mark.
I don't want to keep you.
I want to be respectful of your time.
Um, is there anything that we didn't cover that you wanted to highlight today, CJ,
besides, you know, mainnet being live?
So that's one of the biggest events for the whole Web3 space and for us.
So that is something that we need to focus on.
Nothing else.
We did it like we made sure we are.
Shipping the world's first quantum
proof L1 to the Web3 ecosystem.
So it's up and running.
Go to explorer.diameter.io.
Click on Quant on the top right
corner, explore the main net.
And interact with it and make sure. you are giving your feedback to us.
If you want to learn more about it, you can reach out to us. Our teams are quite active
on Twitter, Discord, Telegram. And, you know, I'm just, you know, too fired up today with the launch
of the mainnet. It's like years of artwork of the team coming together
and making sure we are doing something that no one has done yet in the world.
It's a different feeling that we have.
Well, now the pressure's on, CJ.
It's time to hit now.
Like you thought the pressure was on now.
Now it's time to blow this thing up and, you know, really, really on board, you know, as cliche as it sounds, on board the masses.
You know what I mean?
And I think you guys are going to kill it, you know, moving forward.
So I'm excited. I'm excited for
you, the team, uh, the community, um, you know, everyone in here that was a part of this today,
cause you'll be able to listen. You'll be able to, there's something you're going to be able
to tell your kids that, yeah, I remembered I started out in web three. I did this, I did this,
I did this and guess what? I was also part of, you you know the first ever quantum approved blockchain launched
and um yeah it's it's it's really a big moment and um yeah nothing nothing but you know best of
luck to you guys moving forward with all the products but we're going to be here to deliver
them you know we're going to be talking about them in future spaces. We have creator spaces coming. We have a lot of different things that are in the plans for the weeks ahead.
So don't think that everything stops right here.
We're going to keep shipping and shipping and shipping and pushing it out there.
And CJ, like I said, once again, man, you guys killed it.
And I'm excited for the weeks ahead.
You didn't leak as much alpha this time, CJ.
Last time you gave us some stuff, you know.
Not going to lie, a little disappointed that we didn't get you to slip up with something today.
I'm just getting better.
I'm just getting better.
Yeah, but it's all good.
Maybe on the next phase, we'll get you in.
We'll do some more overview of the network, how things are holding up,
how the throughput, you know.
I'm sure you guys are watching every single transaction that's running
through and everything that's happening right now.
But, yeah, once again, are you able to be able to sleep
comfortably tonight now finally like now that main net's live we are just getting started
shit whatever no sleep i'll think the opposite yeah sleepless nights on onwards from here yeah
well you got to make sure you're taking care of yourself. Otherwise, you know, otherwise it's all for nothing.
So, all right, guys, if you're not following DM,
make sure you have notifications on.
This is just the start.
This is just the beginning.
I know there's going to be some massive partnership announcements.
There's so much more on the way.
Product releases, things are going to be dropping
but you have to also go up and retweet the video i was kind of watching it a little bit
and the video looks really cool so once the space is over i'm gonna go watch that and make sure you
drop a comment a follow uh explore everything in the link tree there's so much information there if you have questions jump in the
telegram jump in the discord
there's always opportunities to
engage have fun in the discord
you know and if you're a creator
wanting to
create for Diem jump in the
the door is always open there for you and
you know Diem's dm is only
going to keep getting bigger and bigger uh cj we appreciate your time today blue tiger uh as well
i appreciate you coming up and joining us um hopefully me and blue tiger are going to have
uh in some others uh creators uh from the network going to start doing some
some other calls and spaces here in the future.
Thanks a lot, Jesus.
Thanks, Butryger.
And thanks a lot, everyone, you know, for patiently listening to us.
I had a wonderful time.
Yeah, thank you again, CJ.
Congratulations to you, the team.
I see a lot of them in the audience.
Yeah, we appreciate it.
But yeah, until the next space,
which is hopefully next week,
we will see you on the next one.
Thank you, everyone.
Bye-bye, bye-bye. Thank you.