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MAJOR X ALGORITHM CHANGES!! WTF!!!
Recorded: April 22, 2025 Duration: 2:00:56Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored significant algorithmic changes impacting content engagement, highlighting a shift towards short-form content and the importance of diverse content strategies. As platforms adapt to user preferences, the conversation underscored the potential for growth through innovative features and data-driven insights.
Full Transcription
Thank you. We are live.
We are live.
We are live.
Major, major algorithmic changes.
We are going to discuss them here.
Major algorithmic changes.
Can you feel it?
Can you feel the changes?
Everything is changing.
Can you feel it, Robert?
Reaches down.
Quality is up on the feed, but reaches down.
So somebody's getting through.
Is this what you're hearing from most people, Robert?
Is this the consistencies you're hearing?
People are frustrated because they don't get reach.
And you can see it on my For You feed.
I'm not seeing a lot of things outside the AI industry.
Two years ago, I would see all sorts of weird shit from outside my little bubble.
Now I'm only seeing stuff mostly from inside the bubble.
So the algorithm is changing all the time.
What are you hearing?
You're in the middle of it.
You're studying the source code.
I'm in the thick of it.
I'm in the thick of it at the moment for sure.
It is changing.
I am hearing from most people.
I am hearing from most people they I am hearing from most people.
They feel like their reach is down. That's number one. I am hearing from most people that reaches
down. There are also a couple other trends I'm noticing, too. I'm noticing just a difference
in what's being surfaced. I've kind of made my presence, built my brand on long form content.
I do a ton of long form content. I write a lot of long form posts. I do threads. I do everything
long form. I'm a long form guy. I'm compensating, right? And I've got a lot of attention by doing
long form. I got surfaced a lot doing the long form. Here's what I'm seeing now though, is short
form is performing way better. Short form is, you seeing that Robert? Yeah, I'm not surface a lot doing the long form here's what i'm seeing now though is short form is performing way better short form is you seeing that robert yeah i'm not seeing a lot of long
posts coming through my for you feed um i'm seeing a lot of little short ones um with some with meat
but you know um two paragraphs three paragraphs kind of thing is getting through what do you think
that is do you think algorithmically they're now trending more towards trying to push short? Like why,
why would X want more shorter form content? I think it, I think it gets people engaged more
and engagement is what matters here. You know, I asked Rock, why, why is Robert Scoville not
getting reach? Cause he has 500,000 followers. And I laid out one of the reasons was you got to
go for engagement. I'm actually getting a lot more feedback from people that Grok has less
capabilities when it comes to access, like less live capability. It has access to less live
information for some reason. I think they've been changing Grok for some reason. Well, there's lots
of things moving around. I would expect a lot of changes over the
the next six months uh in grok and its integration um i don't know you know maybe they're preparing
for integrating it into tesla is where you're not going to have the chance to really read a whole
long post you're just going to want to see a couple of nice short ones right well i don't know
Just going to want to see a couple of nice short ones, right?
Well, I don't know.
God knows why they change the algorithm.
It always changes.
So you guys sort of, this is why I built my list.
So you can watch what's being shared in real time without any filter.
Get X Pro running on your screen and follow on my list or follow a bunch of them.
And you'll see what's going on in
real time and i'm doing that right now and then i you you can see what gets shoved over tier four
you feed and how that differs from your following feed and each is different now you know they're
moving around there are major changes coming from the platform perspective, I know, as well.
Let's just say I've been testing a feature the last week for X. I'm not allowed to say what it is.
But let's just say I've been testing a new feature.
It's excellent.
It's coming soon.
It's replacing another feature on X.
Well, let's see.
You've already leaked about payments and video feeds.
It's probably one of those two.
I can't say.
I'm not on the app today.
I know.
You're under NDA.
I'm not.
I made the ask today to the team.
I want to share it.
Can I share it?
I haven't gotten a response yet if I could share it.
So I'm not going to do it.
I want to keep their trust.
But changes are coming.
Big changes are coming. I think they're changing the algorithm with it to match all these changes that
are coming yeah well if they're bringing a new video player and that was the rumor going on
around in the last 24 hours uh you would expect them to start uh distributing a lot more video
content in fact i just uploaded a video so we So we'll track that over the next week.
Does that get more play or less play? It's hard to get play on videos because the affordance isn't
really there to watch long, meaty videos. And it's not TikTok with short, sexy videos, right? So
it's all happening. But you know, it's? People don't watch long-form videos on here.
That's a fact.
People don't do it.
You look at the Android.
A few do.
I get notes about my content.
A few do.
And I think if there's a really nice video player that changes the affordance of watching longer videos while you're thumb-scrolling through all your other posts um that would be really nice
so do you all change the game do you think that's the blocker though is the video player's not good
enough like do you think that's why yeah it just doesn't have the affordance you know people uh
get a couple minutes into a video get bored or get called away and then it's gone and they get back
to you know we're all here for the dopamine hits, right?
We're scrolling through the feed with our thumb and looking for cool shit to, you know, like or comment on or just entertain ourselves with or educate ourselves with.
And I think that's one reason they went to the short form right now, because that's what gets people going through the feed, right?
Yeah, people don't seem to watch long form here. But you know,
what's really interesting is, even though people don't watch long form, and all my long form
videos, when I say long form, I mean, like, longer than a minute videos longer than a minute here.
All my long form video content still performs the best out of all my content. So even though
the average numbers on my long form videos
are horrible, right? 99% of people don't make it to the end. It's still my best performing content.
And so that's why I think people still, you got to upload long form videos. You have to do it.
And I'm breaking all your rules and breaking all the Grok's rules. You know, I'm going to keep
doing long form because it builds my brand that I'm doing
meaty long interviews with entrepreneurs in the AI space. And if people, I find that gets me more
videos, for instance, I just got a tour of a really cool robot company on Friday. And I got
that invite because I've been doing a lot of long form videos of, you know, AI and robot companies.
People got that video, by the way.
Check out Robert's page for his tour on the robot company, which, listen, like what Robert does is amazing because he makes original content, right?
Original, thoughtful content that not a lot of people do.
Most people's video strategies are stealing shit.
Like this is the easy way that most people go.
Most people go, I'm just going to rip videos off from, you know, TikTok.
I'm going to rip videos off from Instagram.
The sweet spot and where you really need to aim is making your own original video content.
If you can do that, you're going to-
Or your own posts or your own long form, right you can do that you're going to or your own posts
or your own long form right you should mix it up it should be a meal right you don't want all
if a meal only has a pile of salt it's not very good no matter if you have you know a mixture of
things some meat some rice some salad and a little salt uh everything's good right makes a good meal
salad and a little salt uh everything's good right makes a good meal i uh i just uploaded to youtube
and i'll post it on x here later tonight maybe the first thing tomorrow a a explanation educational
video on what ai agents are and how to build them you know usually make educational videos and how
to build stuff this one's just explaining why ai agents are so important. So I try to mix up educational, actionable, different things like that. So
if you find yourself on YouTube tonight, check out my YouTube and check out that video. Make
sure to subscribe over there as well. I think, you know, one thing for me, and I want to hear
from you guys as well. What has changed for you in the algorithm over the last couple of weeks?
Has your reach gone up or has your reach gone down?
Have you noticed any trends?
I'd love to hear about it.
Hit the purple pill in the bottom right.
One thing I'm noticing is a lot fewer single line posts.
I used to see a lot of single line posts, you know, cute, pithy one line posts.
I don't see a lot of those anymore.
Most of the posts on my For You feed right now have two or three paragraphs.
That's because you have me muted. You have me muted, don't you? Don't you, Robert?
Well, you know, I moved you to the VIP list, so you're on the good list. I see you.
I have everybody on the list. I'm going through everybody, and I haven't unfollowed you yet.
I've been unfollowing a lot of people, and that's been fucking up my numbers.
I don't recommend doing a lot of unfollowing because it pisses people off,
and they unfollow you, and that causes you to get decreased reach.
But some days you have to clean up up and you have to take the hit.
And I'm cleaning up right now.
And my feed is freaking rocking right now because I'm following only people who post stuff that I would be interested in.
If you post politics, I put you on the VIP list.
And then I remove you, I unfollow you and move you over just to the list.
Which I still see you. Do you see better reach, though, after you unfollow you, and move you over just to the list, which I still see you.
Do you see better reach, though,
after you unfollowed a whole bunch of people?
No, everything's down.
Numbers are down, you know?
I mean, I'm still very blessed.
I got, in the last seven days,
I got 6.7 million impressions,
which is pretty respectful, you know?
When you think about 6.7 million people seeing your shit,
you know, that's pretty cool.
Engagement rate is up a little bit, you know, but not enough to write home about.
Everything else is down a little bit.
But, you know, that changes also with content and engagement and how many replies I write, you know, and how pithy I am.
Do I post a naked photo of myself?
You know, that causes traffic to go up.
I haven't done one of those in a while.
You should definitely post more news.
Honey Battinger is like, no, I don't want to see another naked photo.
I think you should post more news.
I've had enough.
You've had enough.
I get the question a lot, which is, should I be unfollowing people?
Should I improve my ratio?
People say, hey, can you put in creator, buddy?
Can you put an unfollow tool that automatically unfollows people?
I tell everyone, and Robert, I know you've been doing the unfollow thing for a long time here.
Well, a few weeks.
Don't do it.
I just don't do it.
This platform has so many fucking landmines in it.
So many landmines.
This is my least favorite part about X, right?
This is my least favorite part about X. It is so unbelievably over-engineered.
It is over-engineered out the wazoo where there are landmines everywhere, landmines left and right.
And if you do the wrong thing, if you, you know, do the wrong thing, do too much of a weird thing, do something out of the ordinary
one time, you get turbo nuked, right? And one of those things you can do to get turbo nuked,
in my opinion, based on what I'm seeing in the code, is unfollowing people too quick.
If you unfollow people too quick, I think it turbo nukes you. And so I follow-
I agree with that. Here's the deal and why I'm
doing the cleaning up. I'm noticing my For You feed is showing me things from people who follow
me, but I'm not following them back. In other words, it's going, hey, there's somebody interested
in your shit. Why don't you look at their shit, right? And so I'm cleaning up to only people who demonstrate that
they're interested in my content. So if you're all politics, you're probably not interested in
a long form video about AI, right? So I'm unfollowing those people, putting them in lists,
and only following people who show that they're interested in AI or robotics
or, you know, holodecks or ARBR kind of stuff, right? The other thing I did lately, and the
reason my feed got a lot better, I'm following 900 people in the Tesla community, which I'm
highly interested in, but I removed all those people from my 4 You feed by muting them and putting them in a list. So I can see them all in a list right next to my For You feed.
But now my For You feed is all AI and robotics.
It's like, oh, this is really nice.
I've noticed the same thing, Rob.
Robert, my For You feed has gotten incredibly uptight.
Uptight?
Yeah, uptight.
What does that mean?
Why does your For You feed uptight?
I was like, how does a For of you feed get it uptight?
It's a little mouthy to you.
So when I refresh, refresh, it's the same people, like the same 10 people.
And then I'm even, it's not even like, it's just the replies to other posts.
And that's not a gross mindset.
There's people who have a blessed tag that you can't see.
And they're the ones that I keep seeing too.
And that's one reason I'm building lists
so I can see everybody.
Because if you're really going to support small accounts,
Alex Finn, you've got to see everything they post.
And not just the shit that gets through the for you feed, right?
And the way to do that is lists in Xpro because you see them in real time and you see them non-filtered.
So you see everything that a certain list is publishing if you put it into Xpro.
So here's the thing they're fixing.
I'll give you another.
I got a bunch of bits of information I'll be giving out throughout this entire space on what's changed and what they're working on.
Make sure to hit the purple pill down below.
Hit retweet. Let me know in the replies
is your engagement going up or is it going
down lately? I'm going to give out little bits
of information throughout the space, but
here's something else. Are you engagement farming
Alex Finn?
Am I engagement farming or am
I demanding
reciprocal tariffs on the
value I'm giving right now? I give you value, you give me reciprocal tariffs of ret value I'm giving right now.
I give you value, you give me reciprocal tariffs of retweets and likes and replies.
How about that?
There we go.
No, it's worthwhile to give feedback because that's how we all figure out what actually
is going on and how to change our content to match what today's algorithm is.
I've been in a value deficit for too long now. I give tons of value.
I'm not getting value back. So those days are over. We're doing
reciprocal value tariffs. If I give value on this space, you leave
likes and replies and retweets in the purple pill. You hammer the purple pill.
You invite Alex on your space.
Or sign up for creative buddy that's a
good 50 bucks is at a girl I'm paying for a good chunk of his cyber truck payment every month I
mean come on a lot of good uh orange uh logos on this stage I like a lot let me let me give the
little quick bit of what's being changed and we'll keep it moving and we'll keep it grooving.
There is an issue with the algorithm right now where certain accounts are being pushed like crazy. I don't know if people have seen this lately, but you go on the For You feed and there's
certain accounts you'll literally see sometimes like seven times in a row, like seven times in
a row you'll see the same account on your For You feed. This is an issue.
I do have confirmation that they are fixing this issue.
This is a known issue.
This seven times in a row.
I've seen this before with, I think, two accounts.
It keeps happening to me over and over again.
I see it with Zero Hedge, who's a stock account, which, I mean, they're a great account.
I'm just blown away they do so well because they post so many links. Zero Hedge shows up to me. I'll get seven Zero Hedge posts in a row.
I have recordings on my screen of it. And then I get like Gunther Eagleman. Gunther Eagleman.
He subs to me. He's got a million followers. I get it. But that's all I see. It's like 24-7 Gunter.
Make it make sense. Is it Gunter or is it make sense. Is it Gunter or is it Gunther?
Is it Gunter or is it Gunther?
Gunther.
It's Gunther.
Okay, the THR.
See, I put those people on my VIPs lists.
I have two of them.
And then I mute them so that they don't get...
No, I love Gunther.
But kind of to your point, it's like, I love him.
But at the same time, why just, why am I only seeing this?
Right.
And so, but just to answer another question on April 3rd, I switched to regular premium
from plus and my impressions went up.
Now that's a quagmire.
I understand that we're staring into a crystal ball.
I get it, but it was an experiment.
And I don't know. I don't know what else to say about that.
Because again, it could have been a change up in my posts or whatever, but I mean, and I am still
getting paid. There we go. The algorithm has changed and it keeps changing. It is subtly at
times. Alex, do you see that in your discussions with the X team,
that they're always changing the algorithm and fucking around with it?
Yeah, they are.
They are.
Right now is ongoing one of the biggest changes they've ever done.
ever done. They're doing a complete overhaul. They've been seeing the feedback. There's been
They're doing a complete overhaul.
They've been seeing the feedback.
a lot of feedback over the last few weeks that people are not happy with the algorithm. A lot
of feedback. And it goes all the way to the top. It is an Elon down initiative to fix it. So there
is a lot of changes coming. There are a lot of changes coming. There's the issue I talked about with the same accounts over and over and over again. That is being fixed. They've experimented back and forth.
There's a lot more short form going on the feed. I think that's going to change as well. The
consistency will always be video. Video will always be the focus. If you can post videos,
you're going to do well. They want videos to perform well here. Their number one initiative is to make this a video app. A refresh to the video UI experience will be coming very
soon. And there's also going to be refreshes with some of the chatting and the way the chatting
works with media and files. That is coming soon as well. So there are major, major changes. It's
one of the biggest initiatives right now.
You know, it's been interesting. This has been something that's consistently been changing
nonstop since Elon came in. I think he's been trying to change the way the algorithm works
completely. The last couple of years, it's becoming more and more AI driven. But I think as
they do something as brand new and fresh as making an algorithm completely AI driven, you run into problems along the way.
You run into issues along the way.
And I think we're seeing that now.
And I think the issue is a lot of people are saying their reach is going down because there's a select few where the reach has gone spectacularly up.
And what I mean by that is, as I said earlier,
and this is not me talking shit.
I love Zero Hedge.
I love Gunther Eagleman.
I love both of them.
I love both their content.
Both of their content is excellent.
There we go.
MAGA voice back in the house.
Let's go, baby.
Let's go.
The ever-famous soundboard.
The master of the soundboard.
If there's any... The only account on X I allow to do is soundboard if there's any the only account on x
i allow to do a soundboard on my stage if you come on my stage and do soundboards you're out
but if you're mag of voice soundboarded out the wazoo uh anyway this is not me talking shit about
gumter zero hedge i think they're both excellent content creators we just have an issue right now
we're the same accounts i've seen it go eight times in a row on my feed.
And that's something they are actively fixing.
Diligent, Diligent Denizen, top Spaces host on X.
I'd say probably the first person I know who kind of made a brand on Spaces, which is pretty amazing, really taking advantage of new media.
Diligent, what are you seeing?
I saw a post you put out.
It might have been earlier today or yesterday. I'm losing a track of days on the algorithm. What are you seeing?
I think that that probable spam bug is probably the biggest thing because I feel like people are
being misinterpreted as spam in a post, but it doesn't necessarily mean their accounts are flagged as
spam. And then I see people who are not spam, who are flagged as spam regularly in posts that I put
out or other people's posts. And it does seem, at least they complain that their reach is also
diminished while they have that flag. So the system is definitely being overzealous in trying to
moderate spam and it is moderating paying subscribers i probably can i can think of maybe
10 of my followers who are like avid reply guys to my posts who are have gotten rid of their premium
subscriptions altogether because of this issue because it's
gone on for so long now and it's really sad to kind of watch to be honest with you so that's i
guess i think that's the biggest thing with the algorithm right now until they get that sorted out
they shouldn't be doing anything else do you to be clear they got rid of their premium plus or
their premium altogether just they got rid of their premium plus or their premium altogether. They got rid of their premium altogether.
And they're also unsubscribing from like creators.
Like I've lost probably five,
six or seven subscriptions just this last week because they totally have given
up on paying on the platform.
And so to me like that's,
so there's like collateral damage happening as a result.
That's facts every person that i've spoken to that has subs they have lost like like tens of tens of subs um and and i think you're exactly right it's not that they don't like you anymore
but they're just tired of you know i think they also fixed a bug where it was impossible to unsubscribe from me for a
while and all of a sudden i got 40 unsubscribes all in one day yeah that happened to everybody
yeah so i think they fixed a bug there that uh yeah but this is after that i mean robert this
is this last week this last week like where you know i'm seeing accounts that have millions of
followers being flagged as spam you know my paying of followers being flagged as spam.
My paying subscribers are being flagged as spam.
Elon said that they were working on it when Mike Benz had posted about it the other day,
but Mike Benz was posting about it a week after everybody else was already complaining.
And so now we're going on like two weeks of this now.
It's really hard to convince, you know, customers, because now we're talking people who are paying $40 a month for the premium plus like you have to do a little, you know, your services need to be appropriate for that level of a subscription, because the subscription market is competitive.
level of a subscription because the subscription market is competitive and with that with that kind
of stuff going on that's that's not that's not good for x i don't think yeah do you uh do you
do you view a world um where i mean they have to make an emergency situation here because i'm
seeing a lot of very upset people at the moment
because of the algorithm. You know, at some point, they're going to need to change things
because people are going to stop using it, right? And the more people stop using it and unsubscribe,
the less ad revenue there is and the less ad revenue there is, the more the crybabies who
cry about the ad paychecks every two weeks, stop using the platform too, which kind of,
it's almost like a destructive cycle. I mean, what,
when was diligent in your eyes?
When was the last time you were happy with the way the algorithm performed?
I don't know, man. I've kind of just kind of learned to take,
take the algorithm in stride just because it just seems like if you're
consistent, even through like the low parts, it eventually works out.
That's what I've noticed for me anyways.
And so I just try to remain consistent and not let it derail me when things aren't going the way that I think they should.
I kind of actually just kind of push through a little bit harder and then it works it seems to
work itself out however I think that is the the key is being consistent and very active with your
posting and not in like a cringe repetitive way but just like you know consistently putting out
quality content right I so I actually don't have a lot of complaints about the algorithm you know consistently putting out quality content right i so i actually don't
have a lot of complaints about the algorithm you know that just depends on the day really
some days it's like holy shit yeah it sucks but it seems to level out a little bit it's the bugs
i think right now more than anything uh that are a problem and it sucks because they're they're
hand in hand i i agree with you i I think that it's over-engineered.
And I actually think a lot of what we're witnessing is probably due to the merger with XAI.
And they're probably letting models handle more and more of the moderation on the background through bots than than than ever before right and so we're probably going through like
this adjustment phase as that as that rolls out well and it goes back to when elon fired everybody
at twitter when he took over i i met a former employee of the search feature. And she told me that the search was very human curated
and had a lot of rules to it. This is why you don't see porn unless you search for porn.
Once you search for porn, you turn on, you flip a bit on the back end, and then it'll give you
more porn, right? And a lot of those kinds of rules were hand coded by human beings.
And a lot of those kinds of rules were hand-coded by human beings.
They're clearly, I mean, if we were running X, we would be putting AI everywhere to do all these things.
And they're going to do the same thing.
And now that XAI has merged with X, the writing is on the wall, that this service is going to change a lot
over the next year. So I think we're all in for some turbulence. Well, here's a little insight
into the spam thing. So Diligent was talking earlier about a lot of people's replies going
to spam. So this is an issue, right? And so previously, a big indicator you were
shadow banned is when your replies or the replies to your posts were going to spam.
That was a big indicator you've been shadow banned. The issue is it's still an indicator.
And the issue is a lot of people now their replies are going to spam. I have people with 40,000 followers whose replies are going to spam under my post now.
And so I think the core issue we're seeing here is that the reputation system on X, Tweep
Cred as some call it, I'm the discoverer.
I just want to claim here, I am the discoverer of Tweep Cred.
I did discover the TweweepCred system.
TweepCred is still a thing.
Maybe they've renamed it.
Maybe they haven't. But the reputation system, the idea of the reputation system, unfortunately, is still a thing.
Elon is on the record of saying he's against the reputation system.
He's anti the reputation system.
The challenge is this.
I've gone through the code.
The reputation system is weaved into the entire algorithm in 100,000 different ways. If you search TweetCred in the
algorithm, there's thousands of appearances in it. So it is deeply woven into the way the algorithm
works. And so the issue here is I think people know that this reputation system is a
problem right i think people know that replies are going to spam they just don't have the fix
for it yet but i am very confident this fix will come soon very confident this fix will come you
know i i actually saw um and shout out to laurie if you don't know who laurie is she's a she's a great follower
on here and reply guy or girl sorry but she you know i actually saw a good case for the
the other day um which is remarkable right which was i i posted a a i made a post about spaces
host like because once in a while i'm like hey you know tag your
best spaces host because i want i like to make them discoverable oh she's down there now shout
out to lori um make them discoverable and i noticed that one of the replies almost immediately
and it was a late reply you know how like it's all time-based so if you reply instantly it gets
the most traction if you reply an hour later it doesn't get nearly as much traction, right?
And this chick, she replied like an hour later to my post.
But like it instantly got like 20 or 30 reposts from all of these accounts that do not follow me.
that do not follow me. I don't follow them. And they all had between, um, you know, 10,000
I don't follow them.
to 150,000 followers, but they were also following almost as many people as we're following them.
And so I'm like, what is this? Like, you know what I mean? Uh, and I just couldn't figure it out.
And so what it was is, is it's a repost group, right? Where,
where somebody is replying and it's either notifying somebody or they're sending it somewhere.
And, and in a coordinated manner, they are repo. I mean, this is a reply. It's not a post. This is
a reply that they're, they're, you know, in an organized organized manner reposting people's replies and posts like
up to you know 40 or 50 times each and and i'm like if you look at these accounts that are doing
it they're verified accounts but if their profiles are just like 95 reposts of other people's posts, right?
And Lori actually made a good case.
She's like, actually what we're witnessing
is probably a good case for TweetCred, right?
Because here is a spam, it's a spammy organized manner
in which legitimate accounts or actually users
are manipulating the platform
through repetitious action, right?
And so that actually kind of opened my eyes to why they ever had a tweet cred in the first place,
because people who consistently act in such a manner shouldn't be, you know,
their content shouldn't be boosted up because they're actually manipulating the platform
in an attempt to be
seen over other people's content so i just i thought it was an interesting scenario and i'm
sorry if that was uh a little bit too long-winded no that's interesting do you think that that's
automated or do you think those are manual groups where they're sending it to like i think it was
manual group i think that it was sent to a chat somewhere. Probably to a group chat, which is a repost group chat,
or maybe even like Telegram or WhatsApp or something of that nature.
Right.
Like where, because you could send it off platform
and then it probably wouldn't be as easy to track what you were doing.
But what would be the point of doing that for like random replies?
I'm not entirely sure maybe maybe they have
a uh maybe they have a reply like i have notifications on for hundreds of accounts
but they're all news related but if i let's just say that my notifications for hundreds of accounts
are you just getting fucking buzzed every five seconds uh no because it's it doesn't
like actually buzz or make a sound on my phone and just what are you doing you're just keeping
an eye on your fucking notification tab all day what are you doing yeah yeah yeah i i don't use
the for you feed at all i operate completely off the notifications it's the fastest way
to receive and disseminate information on the platform i operate completely off the notifications it's the fastest way to receive and disseminate
information on the platform i operate purely off of notifications so what's your workflow here
you're sitting down on your computer so for those who don't know diligent dennison excellent news
account pumps out news all day very hard worker oh man i was about to make a joke but i shouldn't do
it i'm not gonna do it but there's there's a do it no i can't it's
too soon still and the person's still on the platform and would probably yeah yeah yeah
appreciate that i'm trying to get over that myself oh so you know you know where i was going with
i was about to say a news account that doesn't do something but i'm not gonna say that thing i'm not
gonna say the thing they don't do it's not worth it can we get the barking emoji
oh i shouldn't have done that that was a mistake i apologize i shouldn't even said that part
um and that's why we needed marge but go ahead yeah yeah you know you know you know you know uh
i mean if you've you know i don't feel so bad about that whole deal after yay came out with
what he said today and then a certain and then a certain king groiper has been hanging out with what he said today. And then a certain King Groyper has been hanging out with him while he's wearing masks.
So actually wearing masks.
Wait, what?
In photos.
So, yeah.
Yep, yep.
Wait, Kanye?
Yeah, he came out and said that.
Yeah, I know the cousin thing, but who's the Groyper wearing masks with him?
Well, he was wearing a mask while hanging out with a certain Groyper.
You know, the king of the Groypers. Yeah yeah you don't want to go too deep into this one or we'll start getting spammed every five seconds
yeah yep yep uh yeah that kind of thing's fucking crazy i'll send you the picture i'll send you the
picture sarah okay i'll anxiously await but um go ahead if i was gonna say multiple that totally
just derailed us that just totally
completely derailed us 100 i'm blaming you brother i'm blaming you we were on a good stride we were
on a good stride we we got you're talking about what you're talking about wex live diligent
uh anyway uh workflow so the notification workflow so how i operate yeah yeah so how i
operate and i don't mind sharing this because I want more people to do it.
I don't use the For You feed.
I don't use lists.
I don't use the following feed.
I operate purely off notifications for accounts that I want to use as my source of information.
And so I'm purely watching that.
I don't know know other people do other
ways whatever maggot voice but um that's how i do it and let me just say you know you can tell
if i screenshot a notify like if i screen earlier today somebody tried calling me out um for posting
the fact that dan bongino unfollowed uh the judicial watch guy right tom finton and and
that's a big deal because tom finton is huge watchdog of government and dan bongino was a huge
uh you know uh skeptic of the government for a long time and now he's in the fbi so this was news
right i there i i posted it right somebody shared it in my in my
spaces host chat which isn't for news and then i posted it you know like a minute later and the
in the person or the kid tried accusing me of stealing his screenshot and i was like bro listen
i don't know if you know how i operate but um you know i had you know i have a time stamp
here but you can see on the top right corner where it said three seconds you know how long
it shows like the duration a post has been up like it showed three seconds that's how fast i
get the news when i'm looking at something i it had been posted for three seconds and I had time to figure out that it was important to screenshot it and save it and edit it actually all in like three or five seconds.
That's constantly how I do news throughout the day.
Diligent is always quick.
That's what the takeaway, key takeaway was, was diligent is quick.
Speed matters.
It does matter. I was the first person to tell Twitter that Steve Jobs died,
and I got 20,000 followers for that, right?
And hundreds of thousands or millions.
I don't think that you're saying what Sarah was saying.
Do you know what I'm saying, Sarah?
He got it.
He got it.
He was just trying to class it up.
Right.
But he's not wrong.
He's not wrong he's not he's not wrong speed
speed coupled with quality or accuracy is the most important factor on the entire platform
it is speed actually more than anything else it is i mean this is the only platform that's about
timing it's about now it's the only content platform where the relevancy of the content
is so critical right like
I do breaking news about X right when breaking news comes out about X I got all the notifications
on for the other accounts that do news so I can get the moment it comes out and I can post about
it right it's it's it's critical here like that's another strategy if you're if your reaches down
on here because the algorithm's effing you in the a you got to be making sure you talk about
the most relevant up to the moment important trending topics that are going on at the moment
for for your audience for your audience that's correct you got to build a brown a bigger build
a brand around you know for for my audience i'm talking about open ai shit right for your audience
you're talking about social media stuff right that's
exactly it that's exactly it uh do you are you using list diligent for your for your live research
amazing what lists lists no no no no no you you should you when you start moving a list and put
them in xpro it'll make your notification system so i i you
know what i do like to do sometimes and i wish i could do it you know how x so xpro has the fastest
refresh rate for the feed and so so it is actually useful for me to sit in front of xpro and watch
watch the following feed because i follow so many most of the accounts
are they're all information based right even you robert you know what i mean like i keep my head
on all the info especially ai and tech and stuff like that as it's come forward but my point is
is i wish that i could reproduce that that following feed like to make all four panels that instead of just the one right like i wish you could
reproduce the same panel because um it would just be more useful for me that way well you can start
building your own list if you built 10 lists you could have a whole screen of different kinds of
people right different categories of people like i i mostly you and i are another person might
talk about you know trump another person might talk about sports right uh you would split those
up into separate lists and that way you could see the whole world moving by what's what's nice about
xpro you run it in google chrome and you just leave it on this i have it on the screen right
now and i'm watching people posting in real time.
I don't have to refresh the page.
It just refreshes automatically.
And you see things that are new, right?
It's real time.
That's what I love, the automatic refresh.
If news starts breaking, like if Trump died right now, I would be able to see how each
category of newsmakers or people I care about are reacting to that news.
I've been dying to ask you this question, Robert. Okay. Lists versus communities.
Which is better?
I use lists because that's where people post, right? It gives you the top level posts.
Communities are important too. they get shown to your for you
by the way the for you feed if you follow 10 lists it'll pick some items from each list uh
algorithmically and put them in your for you feed and they're usually pretty good
i mean like so the following list makes your for you feed better following communities makes your
for you feed better too it'll put some things from communities you're following into the 4U feed,
as long as you're not following too many.
If you're following two or three, you'll get that.
If you follow 100, it's too many to choose from.
I meant to say creating your own list.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
Creating your own list.
Well, you create lists of top-level people.
You can create a community and invite your
followers to come into your community and be posting there and that encourages engagement
and people building friendships with each other and stuff like that um it's slightly different
i think yeah i love lists i you know i'm a list fanatic. I've separated everybody out into lists. I have lists
of crypto. I have lists of robot people. I have lists of tech journalists. I have lists of investors.
They're all in separate columns on my X-Pro. And so if something's breaking in the financial world,
I go to my investor lists, right? Because then I'll see how they're reacting to you know some company just got fought
or something like that um if if tech news is breaking i'll go to my tech journalist list
if you know if if an ai thing is breaking i'll just go to my home screen which is all
almost all a do you have to refresh the lists manually or do they work no no you just leave
the browser open and it just refreshes them automatically and is it time-based
too is it so like yeah does it work does it work like xpro does it work in the same manner as the
as the following yeah yes yes each list works like following and that's the power of it it's
it's not filtered and it's new thing if you posted something new i would see it at the top of it. It's not filtered, and it's a new thing. If you posted something new, I would see it at the top of my VIP list.
So I'm sorry about derailing your space, Alex.
One last question.
This is a good conversation.
Because most people don't use lists.
Keep going.
Keep derailing.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, so I'm actually against lists.
Because they're weaponized right
like if you go look at me right now almost every day i have to go block all of these assholes who
put me on these you know uh fascist trump tar like the some of them are really really bad
and i just know right they're not putting me on that list uh for for a good reason yeah whether
whether or not like people believe mass reporting is a thing it is and and it's these lists are used
to list public lists are used as weapons against voices that people disagree with and that has been
used against me extensively i'm against public lists
however i need to know because i've never made one is making a private list does that notify
the user because i'm afraid that i'm going to put somebody on a list and then they're going to block
me because that's what i do so so there's that's a two-part question dale so you know you know of course i've been put on uh like crazy conservative hose you know um
blah blah blah you know and it happens every day so i have to cure the list but i think the
second question you're asking is what is the utility of listen i think what robert is saying
is that that's not what i'm asking that's not what i'm asking that's not what i'm asking
that's not what i'm asking at all i'm asking i'm asking they don't get notified they don't get
notified yeah yeah yeah yeah in a private list they don't get notified in a public list they
would if they're following you so so the list that you have me on because i got notified you
you had me you put me on a list yeah um that's is that a public list yeah all my lists are public
i don't use private lists but do the private lists operate in the same manner that the
they do they do other than the notification nobody can see inside that list so they don't
know who's on the list and um and they don't get a notification if you add somebody to a private list
interesting yeah so i think what i'll do
i i recently just subscribed to circle boom because i want to start to prior or to start to
take my followers and group them into a list of you know fields of expertise especially for spaces
right that way i can start contacting speakers in an organized manner
depending on the subject in which i'm hosting about yeah yeah so so i i circle boom was the
one i saw that is partnered with x i pretty much just got the subscription to export my followers
list um i saw that there is a list creating function on there as well so instead
of going into like a spreadsheet format which is or excel excel sheet which is what i was going to
do i think if i can figure out how to do it is i'll export the list or export the the names to
a private list no what you should do is open up a private list, you know, your potential speaker list.
And then as you see people who you think
would be a good speaker,
you add them to that list, right?
You go to their profile and go,
let me do it so I can...
Yeah, yeah, there's just so tedious to do one at a time
because you don't have 100,000 people to go through.
It's like, you know what it's like.
In the last year, I've unfollowed 50,000 people to go through. It's like, you know what it's like. In the
last year, I've unfollowed 50,000
people. So I understand your pain.
It's a pain in the ass. Also, you can't
build this too fast. It'll
turn off your account for an hour.
Oh, really?
If you add
1,000 people to do this real fast,
you'll see weird shit happen.
It goes away quick. It's just sort of like of like hey are you a computer doing that shit or are you a human you know
yeah you got to be doing list diligent i do multiple lists here's a little tip to the crowd
how i do it uh i got my reply guy list uh the people who reply to me a lot who i want to keep
replying them and keep them warm. I got my friends list.
There's people I consider friends, people I want to stay warm with.
People like Robert Scoble, people like Maga Voice, people like You Diligent.
You're on the front list.
There you go.
I got the people who I want to break through list.
So the people I want to get in their network and like actually become friends with and like get
like start getting them to notice me people like investors tech people AI people I want them to
notice my app and what I'm building so I have a list just for that and then I have like a spaces
list people I want to get in my spaces more so if you get those lists and then you do x pro diligent
you'll get live content as it'll be way better than notifications, dude.
Way better than notifications.
By the way, if you're a news person and that's your thing, let's say there's a big Chinese earthquake right now.
Start a list immediately of people who are writing about the Chinese earthquake and put them on that list and then watch that list.
It's going to be insane for you.
Oh, that's a good idea.
Yeah, I do that. I oh that's a good idea yeah i do that
hey i do that on the smaller scale and by the way those are shareable because if you're if you're
going to be the person to talk about this chinese earthquake all night long you share the list and
say hey here's all these people who are uh talking about the chinese earthquake if if you want to be
added you know comment underneath its kind of thing uh and
it'll just keep building over the evening you know i've seen this many times when breaking news goes
down that people build lists like this and they're gonna try that because it it is about the speed
thing uh and and you know i i think there's probably not another account that understands the time frame issue as much as MAGA Voice.
Shout out to MAGA Voice.
Because she was trying to point it out to me a lot back in the day.
And when I was first trying to, I didn't, because I was like, ah, fuck posting.
I'll just do spaces.
And I didn't really understand that spaces and posting work congruently, right?
Like once you get on this role,
your spaces will feed into your posting
and your posting will feed into your spaces.
And MAGA Voice was really the first one
to like point that out to me.
And I didn't understand.
I'm like, ah, fuck it.
I don't care.
Fuck posting.
It's too hard to figure out the algorithm,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then finally, I'm like, you know what? what i'm gonna actually take some time i'm gonna spend
some time posting testing different things trying to hit my stride and and you're you know she was
right and it is it's time-based you know what's weird while we're talking about it is there are
accounts so it's not just about being like quick. I've seen accounts successfully post
information later than everyone else, but it has to be after a period of time where there's no more
flooding of the zone. Right. So I know a specific account that usually posts news intentionally
12 hours later than it happened, give or take. And because
they're the only ones posting about it at that time, the content is successful. It's crazy to
watch. But I just don't, you know, like there's so there's also like other little tricks.
Because what happens is, is now I'm looking for content that the other biggest five news
accounts on X are not posting.
Right.
Uh, you got Nick Sordor, you got, uh, um, you got lives of Tik TOK.
You've got, and wokeness, all of these other accounts are are usually put call and rug a lot of them are posting the same
posts or content um as quick as they can and what happens is it floods the zone with that same
information so now what I'm trying to do is look for stories that aren't necessarily you know
running the same as everybody else uh but are still relevant and so like i don't
know it is interesting to to get into like i i used to think it was very interesting but now that
i've been doing it a little bit more um i do kind of find it kind of you know i don't know i get it
i get it you ever feel like you're in an endless chase, Diligent Venison?
You're just in an endless chase to get the latest news?
Ever feel like a treadmill you can't get off of?
Oh, yeah.
It's super... It's addicting, bro.
It's just addicting.
It's like spaces.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's all about that dopamine.
I get my dopamine from getting and posting the news.
You know, you get your dopamine from like...
Yep.
Exactly, Magga.
Magga gets it
there we go perfectly timed uh soundboard we got on stage sierra sierra it's good to have you up
here sierra what have you been noticing lately has it reached been going up going down any
trends you're seeing differently in the algorithm oh hey nice to see you um the algorithm is weird right now i today i noticed it like i finally
saw some new content again it was great like i'm seeing robots again i used to only see
robots and i loved it and then i was seeing like news and weird stuff but today i saw robot stuff
again so i don't know if there was like a tweak or a change, but I think hopefully.
By the way, if you engage on non-robot stuff, you'll see non-robot stuff.
So you have to be very intelligent.
I know how all this works, but I don't.
You know, you got to be diligent about not slowing down with your thumb on non-robot stuff.
slowing down with your thumb on non-robot stuff.
Tell her, Robert, Robert.
That's why I always tell people, like, don't get offended by not,
like, people that don't follow you back and stuff,
because that's how you curate your feed.
Like, all of that engagement is telling the algorithm,
this is what I want to see.
By the way, I built you a list of robots, so just follow my,
go to my robot list in X-Pro, and you're going to see only robots.
I don't need a build list because I use all of yours.
I use X-Pro a ton.
I wish they would incorporate some of those features into the actual platform.
I have all my decks categorized by news, robotic stuff, national news, global news, space stuff.
news space stuff and it's all like nicely categorized. I wish that we could like save
And it's all nicely categorized.
accounts to our own categories and view our feeds that way, but we can't.
Hey, Dillon.
But what I came up with is to say.
Hey, Sierra, I saw your post to Diligent teaching him how to duplicate those screens
and I thought that was pretty awesome.
Yeah, thank you.
Oh, no problem. That's like why I raised my hand to come up.
And then I was like, oh, let me just screenshot it and show them.
But the other thing I wanted to say is, I don't know.
I haven't tried this yet with Grok, but I did it with ChatGPT.
And I'd highly recommend, like, download all your X data, guys guys and then put it in a project folder
i can be like who do i follow that does xyz and it'll like populate an answer and you can like
chat with your your network um and i recently asked zach for it and i hope we get it uh to add like a a
verified org analytics tab so you can see like how many people from different verified
organizations are in your network but like that doesn't work for everyone working in an industry because obviously
what i mean by like so you and your you have the creator buddy badge right yeah and scoble does um so i want to see like a dashboard of like how many people i am followed by um that are at like OpenAI or at NASA or at XAI or at X,
kind of like LinkedIn-esque, but like not LinkedIn.
So he seemed open to it.
Hopefully we get that.
That's interesting.
I get an organization dashboard that shows me how many impressions I'm getting
across all affiliates, like Robert's and
Sarah's and Ani's and Dan's engagements and impressions combined. But that's interesting
to see how many people from different orgs are following you. I'm building out new analytics.
I saw this idea in a post. I'm just stealing it. Everyone bookmarks posts. Everyone bookmarks
posts nonstop, but nobody actually goes back and reads those posts. Everyone bookmarks posts like nonstop, but nobody like actually goes back
and reads those posts. So I'm building out a tool right now that'll take in all your bookmarks
and then every day email you five random bookmarks. So I got this tool called Readwise
that's connected to my Kindle that every day, every morning emails me like five random highlights
from my Kindle just so I can like reinforce the highlights that I've made in my books.
I'm going to build like the Readwise for X where it takes five random of your bookmarks and emails
them every morning to you. So you can see like each bookmark and like, oh, I remember I bookmarked
that. Let me go back into that and get that in my brain. Because everyone bookmarks like educational
shit, but they never go back. They never go back and look at it. So I'm building
that. I'm vibe coding that as the kids say. That's so, that's amazing because you just reminded me to
check my bookmarks. I have like 87 things bookmarked. I bookmark them for a reason, right?
I want to look at them.
I want to remember them.
I want to learn something from them.
And then I forget to check them.
So then I think, why did I bookmark that?
Love that idea.
When will that roll out?
That should be out in the next week or two.
So by end of next week, I'll say.
That'll be in good news, Sarah and Robert, who are Creator Buddy subscribers.
It'll be a part of Creator Buddy,
no extra cost. You'll get email every day with like five random bookmarks.
And then like if I get one today that has five randos, am I going to get a different set tomorrow?
Yeah, it'll be five random ones every day.
Okay, I love that.
So you just get reminded. I feel like it's good to, because
it's, here's what I always say. It's better to remind than it is to teach, right? So it's better
to remind people because it never sticks with you the first time. So it's like mind branches. We've
got mind branches up here. Mind branches makes incredible summarization posts of books. So you
go back, you look at mind branches posts, they remember what was in the books and you learn a
whole bunch of new stuff. So bookmarks. I think that's a good idea, Alex, you look at mine branches posted, remember what was in the books and you learn a whole bunch of new stuff.
So bookmarks.
I think that's a good idea, Alex, because I have mine all categorized,
but I have like 30 categories or something and it's ridiculous.
I'll be like, oh, where do I put this one?
I have to search my category.
You know, it's like ridiculous.
So that's a good idea. Just kind of bring them up and then it may hit you in that time where you want
to see that again.
So it makes sense.
Exactly.
Just reminds you.
I have 100 different folders, too.
But if people make the folders, it's still disorganized, even with the folders.
It's too tough.
Yeah, it is.
There are two people that I have bookmarked to the moon.
One is Alex Finn, and the other is Alex Northstar Brain.
The stuff that you guys share is just phenomenal.
And I have to go back and listen to it because it goes over my head until I can process it.
So to your point, yeah, it's better. Like repetition is what matters because nobody gets
it on, you know, the first try, but it, and I see the wisdom in it.
So I bookmark it, go back, listen,
kind of consider where you guys are coming from,
and just appreciate the benefit
that you guys are giving to me, right?
First of all, I appreciate that.
Second of all, let's go into another engagement hack.
So we've been talking about the algorithm.
I've been saying I'm going to sprinkle in little things, little bits and nuggets, little things that are changing, little news and updates here and there.
So everyone, you know, keep it interesting, keep it moving.
Here's another one.
Videos, the time to live of videos, the time to live of videos.
And what I mean by that is when you put out a post, like a tweet with words in it, the time to live to that is 24 hours.
Right. So your tweets, you put them out, they get shown to people for 24 hours. Right.
The time to live on videos has been changed where it is longer than 24 hours.
than 24 hours. If you have posts that have videos in them, they actually get put on people's feeds
for more than 24 hours, for up to 72 hours-ish or so. I have a video I put out three days ago
on chat GPT-03, chat GPT-03. And it is still, it's got actually more impressions three days in
than it got the original day. I'm up to I think like 100,000 impressions on it now.
I think after one day it was at like 20,000 impressions.
So videos, videos are getting higher time to live in the X algorithm, which means this.
You got to start creating original videos.
They're going to be pushing it hard.
Here's another little piece of alpha I'll give you right now.
The newest X affiliate account is X originals. X originals is the newest X affiliate account it's called.
What does that mean? They are going to be pushing a lot more original content creators. So they're
going to try to push more people that are putting original videos out rather than, you know, the
TikTok creators just take the TikTok videos and post TikToks all day. They're trying to push more original video content with the
X originals. So again, the winning formula is in front of you right now. Videos, videos,
videos. I'm doing, I'm having a serious debate right now if I just want to cut out all posts
except for videos at the moment and just do a video every single day showing you how to do cool shit with AI and the X algorithm and all that.
I would still look at it like a meal, Alex.
You know, you're trying to create a meal.
Don't go all in on one food group.
That's true.
You are right about that.
Diversify your portfolio, sir.
portfolio sir yeah have some short have some long have some video right you know that way uh
Yeah, have some short, have some long, have some video, right?
you know you you grab them in a number of different ways speaking of drinking some
algorithm speaking of speaking some algorithm into it bottom right corner let's repost the space
this needs to be the number one space on x right now i'm looking at the reposts there's 27 reposts that's absolutely
uh unacceptable 100 unacceptable i promise you for every repost we get right now
sarah will send out a feet pick every repost that we get right now sarah will send out a
repick let's let's blast this into the the ozone. I thought you said a feet pick.
I was like, what are we doing here?
That's literally what he said.
I did say a feet pick.
Yeah, I did.
Why am I getting touch with feet picks now?
Nobody wants to see Sarah's feet, by the way.
He shaved her feet, too, so they're fully shaved.
Yeah, fully shaved.
They're pink.
Pink toes is winning.
The code is pink toes is winning.
Pink toes is winning. I'm going to choose a random person who uh replies pink toes in 10 minutes in the next 10 minutes i'm going to send 10 dollars random that doubled the repost
by the way sarah doubled the repost so uh yeah let's keep it going let's keep it going
people like her feet i've'm not gonna make fun of Sarah
We're not making fun of Sarah
We're celebrating Sarah
And her feet
Sarah had to hop in the shower
Because Diligent makes her feel disgusting
So right now fellas
Steamy feet pics
Repost the space
Steamy feet pics
How about you show your
feet pics, Dill?
Why are you so offended by me?
I'm just saying.
Come on.
Let's see your feet.
I imagine Diligent got some strong feet.
Diligent's a pretty man.
I bet he's got some strong-ass feet.
I bet he has flat feet.
I bet they're flat. I have a high arch, but I have
wide feet.
13 wide, but I have a high arch, but I have wide feet. 13 wide,
but I have a high arch.
Wait, 13?
Wait, wait, wait.
Your shoes are size 13 and you're 5'11".
And you have high arch.
That's correct. You're 5'11
with size 13 feet?
Yes, sir.
Wow.
Wow, those are some dimensions, man. Yeah yeah i think i was supposed to be a professional
swimmer you got fins well i think robert you would uh maybe you'll know you're late i you know i
think i was supposed to be taller but i started smoking and drinking at a young age that may have
stunted my growth like seven well i think i was like 11 or 12 but yeah you were smoking weed
at like 11 and 12 wow
I'll just
say yes
well I mean that's a yes I'll just say
a rough neighborhood if it was a no you would
have said no so it's clearly it was a
rough neighborhood Robert gets it
he actually doesn't
he grew up in i um i by the way on my x-pro i saw everybody's retweets going
across the page so you lit the page up as pink it was nice lincoln's trying to jump in here lincoln
jump in sorry i don't know everyone here so i usually am really annoying and we'll jump right
in but i'm a little more cautious so i't want Diligent to kick me with those 13 whatever size feet that he has.
So, no, I have noticed.
OK, ever since you said, you know, have your brand, don't be the reply guy.
I've been like, well, I don't have a thing.
Like, what is my thing?
I'm just a weird, like, kooky, kind of like sarcastic dude. And I sing sometimes.
And so I don't really know, but then I'm like, well, you're a kingpin of the Tesla community.
Stop that. I'm big into Tesla. Like I love Tesla. I got three of them. I love them. I know a lot
about them. And I like I'm a big Tesla user. So I'm like, well, I'm just going to talk about what
I like to talk about. And it seems like sometimes if you talk about something interesting, it does really work.
Like I don't have, you don't have to be a huge account.
I posted a video today and I have a hundred thousand views in like seven hours because
it just was something that I'm into, into the niche I'm into.
And it was something interesting, you know?
So like, I think the video thing seems to be like a really big deal
and i know it also helps with with engagement payouts because you get i think you get payout
based on the amount of time spent right by verified users on your posts yeah so it seems to
be working so people are complaining about the algorithm right now but for some reason it's kind
of i'm just trying to like kind of what diligent said you just keep sticking to what he knows and just not worrying about the
ups and downs and just do your thing and i find it's working for me and i'm you know um well
it's kind of fun i think that's a great point lincoln i think you make two good points i want
to comment on the two points one i don't hear that often thank you you're a smart guy listen
videos by going heavy videos,
there's also another advantage. There's also another advantage. You get to cross post your
videos to YouTube, right? You get to cross post your videos to YouTube. YouTube is so unbelievably
underrated. I've just been cross posting all my videos from X to YouTube. I just film a video for
X and then I put it on YouTube later.
My account, by doing this for what's it been like nine months now, my account on YouTube's now up to 13,000 subscribers. And I make about $15 a day in passive income every single day from ads on
YouTube. I just cross post. I just cross post from X to YouTube. I just take the video,
I put it on X, I put it on YouTube. I've got up to 13,000 subs. I make $15 a day in ad revenue.
And it's only going up. It grows every single day. Right? So Alex, are those short form videos
or long or what? Long form, all long form. I don't do any short form at all. They're all eight to 13
minutes in length, all the videos I make. And all I do, I just take them from X, I put them on YouTube,
and my growth and reach has just been going up, up, up, up, up.
There's been no shadow bans for me on YouTube.
There's been no tweet cred on YouTube.
There's been no spam filters on YouTube.
I just put it there.
So if you focus on video, if you try to make cool...
I told Diligent this before, and this is before I knew
he was pretty. I told him he's got to be on YouTube. He does good, interesting news.
Now I've seen what he looks like. And it's like, dude, how are you not making YouTube videos,
dude? You'd crush YouTube talking about the news. Like Dom Luker, you know, Dom Luker,
he just, he does a video every day, just talking about whatever it is he taught the latest
conspiracy theory or whatever. And his account absolutely exploded over there. Absolutely exploded.
Right?
So if you focus on video on here and you just cross,
I just took my profile picture here,
put it on YouTube.
Then I post videos over there.
My shit's fucking exploded.
What about pure audio?
Like,
so like I have all of my spaces are now downloaded to the service that I,
that I pay for now.
And I can like download it as an MP3.
So like,
what if I,
you know what I mean?
Is there just like a pure,
like,
you know how Spotify is,
you can do just audio.
Do you think that there is a market visualization with it?
So I've got the only video content I've uploaded to this platform has been I'll do like notebook LM versions of the articles that I write for people that don't like to read.
And you just put like throw it in Canva, throw a some sort of visualization on it.
I have like the stupid little.
It doesn't matter how long it is.
Most spaces are four or five, six hours.
Oh, well, no, but yeah, you're going to have to like clip.
Yeah, you have to thing.
And like pick out pieces that are topics.
Yeah, see, I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
I want to just be able to throw the whole thing over there.
It's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
People have tried it.
I just don't think spaces convert to YouTube.
They just, I don't think, I think spaces are a very Twitter thing.
I don't think it's a YouTube thing. I think the audio quality stinks, first of all,
for spaces on here. It sounds like a fucking radio channel, right? People on YouTube don't
want to listen to that shit. AM radio. Right. It doesn't work, but I think even easier,
diligent, with the effort it would take to download a six hour space and re-upload it to youtube
i think you can take those 15 20 minutes literally turn on a cam look at what dom luker does he has
like a fucking 420p webcam he talks on and he just talks for like five minutes about whatever the
latest conspiracy theory he has right like for you for you, just turn on your camera. It could be absolute war shit.
Put your microphone up to your lips and start talking about, you know, whatever you love about Trump that day.
And you upload it to YouTube and it'll fucking explode.
The conservative audience on YouTube is absolutely massive, right?
I think you could have a lot of-
But don't they censor a lot?
No, they don't.
Why don't you live stream your spaces but on YouTube?
That way you're not doing any additional work.
Yeah, I don't want to do any more content.
YouTube does not censor.
So let me get that out of the way.
For the people saying that, YouTube does not censor.
If you see some of these accounts on here, they are doing the most extreme right- wing conspiracy theories you can think of.
And they are not being censored.
Some of the biggest conservative figures are on YouTube and having extreme success.
So the whole like censorship thing that shifted.
I do believe that.
Yeah.
In 2020, if you talk about like COVID in like a negative way, yeah, you're going to get
censored 100 percent.
But those times have changed.
And much like Zuck, they they just they change their spirit
so you can get away with a lot over there uh i do not i have a friend listening to i have a friend
uh in the audience that i'm not going to call him out by name but he says you're full of shit
they're censoring right now he has screenshots to prove it he didn't say you're full of shit i said
that i said that he didn't say that i said that but he did say that youtube is censoring uh
and he has screenshots he did say that i mean i can give you 10 ultra right-wing conservative
accounts right now who have millions of followers are getting millions of views a video and are
saying you know the the most extreme to their side politically speaking that you can possibly say
and they're making tremendous amounts of money on youtube so like i i don't know what your friend's getting censored for but i promise you
like if you just take your like you don't talk like crazy on your timeline you report the news
from like kind of a conservative angle but i like to swear sometimes yeah that they do demonetize
you can't curse on youtube uh i mean i know people who curse you you'll probably get paid
a little bit less if you curse but just like bleep it just bleep the curse yeah you know like if i'm
clipping spaces or whatever too right like um don't do that no one cares about spaces spaces do
not no one can't but if i don't tell people with spaces like you know what i'm saying like you if
you didn't know right joe rogan or those long form podcasts, you just hear people talking.
Spaces are the same way.
If I didn't put it on that platform as a space and it was just a podcast, an audio podcast, people wouldn't know.
And it would be.
And this is something that Maga Voice pointed out to me.
a voice pointed out to me and she's right and i'll put my own horn a little bit just because
she said it earlier which is i can keep people locked into the space right they stay listening
if you look at my spaces numbers people aren't popping in and out consistently like they are
most spaces i'm keeping a captive audience and in those other platforms, maybe not YouTube, but I'm thinking Spotify and
maybe Rumble. If you can keep a captive audience over there for more than an hour, you'll probably
kill it. And now I have created accounts. I have Diligent Denizen on YouTube. I have Diligent
Denizen on Rumble. I have Diligent Denizen on Spotify now. So I have all denizen on rumble. I have diligent denizen on Spotify now.
So I have all of those account names locked in.
I'm going to start repurposing my content.
At least I'm going to try to do it from spaces over here and just see what it
does over there. Maybe it won't do good,
but I was just trying to think of a way to package it so that it wasn't,
you know, so like, like Sierraierra said like to give it a visual element
but i think go ahead it's not gonna work so listen like i i think it could work on other
platforms like i just know youtube and like the reason why joe rogan works so well is you you get
sucked into the narrative of the conversation you get sucked into who he's talking with what
they're talking about the way the conversation flows you get sucked into who he's talking with, what they're talking about,
the way the conversation flows. You do excellent spaces, Diligent. You have maybe the best spaces on this platform. I can probably say you have the best news spaces on this platform, right?
But that's not how YouTube works, where people go on there and then sit there for six hours and
watch anime cartoon character profile picture A, talk to anime cartoon character profile picture a talk to anime cartoon character profile picture b
about what's going on they don't they don't care about that there's no narrative there
for the interest in it's a completely different kind of format than what they're used to on
youtube what they're used to on youtube is people with a microphone a talking head saying something
interesting and forming a parasocial relationship with that talking head which i think you could do
really really well because i think you break down the news well ah yeah it's just not my thing because
you're talking to me he's uh i don't know man because it's it's played out monologuing versus
uh yeah yeah i don't like i don't want to sit there a monologue i like to engage the whole
reason why i'm i love spaces is because you're engaging with everyone at the same time and
anyone can engage with you as like this spontaneous random element that you cannot account for any
other way you know what i mean like you can't do. I don't think you can do that during a YouTube. What if you just kept...
I'm sorry, Annie.
No, it's okay.
I just wanted to say, like, what if you just streamed your face to YouTube while you're in spaces?
Just have a camera in front of you and go live.
No one's going to care.
No one's going to care.
What?
No one's going to care.
No one cares about spaces on YouTube.
No one outside of X cares about spaces.
Spaces are in Twitter.
It'll be the conversation.
To everybody on YouTube,
I would be doing the live,
you know, the here's my face podcast
that you're talking about.
You know, someone who does this successfully
is Destiny.
Destiny does spaces,
and then he does his his youtube side podcast at
the same time and and it works for him he already has a youtube audience and i'm actually not a fan
of destiny he's a cuck but whatever but that's besides the point he what he does when he like
hosts those debate spaces he does a live simultaneously on youtube and his audience over there eats that shit up
because he's over here arguing with people on twitter with whom they hate yeah but that's like
fine to do if you already have an established brand like destiny right because people go on
that they just want to hear destiny on youtube say crazy shit what the crazy cuck shit he says
right but diligent you don't have that
on YouTube. So no one's going to come to, oh, I need to hear what diligent, diligent,
denizen says on YouTube. You don't have that. So it's, it's a thing you can do
right when you're well-established, right? I see small accounts on X, for instance,
they'll just post, you know, fucking memes, uh, that they get from Instagram or whatever,
like the big accounts do on here or whatever, like the big accounts
do on here, right? Like the big accounts, they post memes, they do it very successfully.
But like when the big accounts post the memes, like for instance, Libs of TikTok,
it's part of like a larger narrative that people are into from that account, right? Libs of TikTok
has created this larger narrative that people are invested in. And so when they take
videos from Instagram or whatever, people think of it in a different way. But if you see a random
five follower account post a video from TikTok, it doesn't quite do as well because people aren't
invested in the narrative or the brand of the person posting it. So on YouTube right now,
Diligent, you're just not the type of person where posting it so on youtube right now diligent you're not
like you're just not the type of person where people go in there and they are invested in your
narrative so you need to build your brand and build your narrative on youtube which i think you could
do a really good job of just like doing a six minute snippet of like here's a breakdown of this
news story and what it actually means like that's how you get people into your brand then you can
start cross posting the spaces because people will be into what
you have to say on the spaces.
I wish,
wish that I didn't have to try to rely on other platforms.
Cause I love how X works.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to have to adjust my content to fit,
you know,
what an other,
what other platforms have to offer.
You know what I mean?
Like that's.
I think that content would slap here.
I also think it would slap on X.
So I don't think it's even a YouTube-specific thing.
You get out of your comfort zone.
You do something fucking new.
You put it on YouTube, and then you can also put it on X.
I think it does well.
That's fair.
Well, I got some other projects I'm working on right now,
and then I'll try that.
I am going to try uploading some content, too. I've i've seen people like when i went to go make my account if you search youtube right now
there are people who are clipping my spaces and posting the clips on their own accounts on youtube
and they're like some of them hit pretty well, like, if other people can clip my spaces and put them on YouTube and generate content off of it, I should definitely be able to.
I searched diligent.
That is in the first face I see smiling.
Jesus Christ.
I can't escape this woman.
Yeah, I mean, listen, dude, experiment.
Try it.
My opinion, I don't think spaces would work well on YouTube, but fucking experiment.
Try it out.
See if it works. see if it doesn't.
Like I experimented with YouTube and now it's literally just generating me $15 a day.
And is that a lot?
But what's that?
Is that like $6,000 a year that just came out of nowhere because I'm just taking content from X and putting it on YouTube.
I think that's pretty fucking sick.
Yeah, that's sick.
That's awesome.
And then that's a platform that grows.
And then all of a sudden
maybe i start trying new things on youtube things like it's just a whole different audience that
you could do cool shit with i i really do believe and that's another thing with the algorithm there's
so much complaining about the algorithm on the timeline and listen i get it it stinks i'm gonna
be honest it stinks right there's so much complaining about it your mental health gets so
much better when you stop focusing on one algorithm when you when your mental health gets so much better when you stop focusing on one algorithm.
When your mental health is fully dependent on one algorithm,
and like if your posts on X go viral or not, that fucking sucks.
I mean, that's just not going to be good for you.
But if you have multiple platforms and multiple algorithms you're working
and you're putting shit on YouTube, maybe you put shit on TikTok.
I experiment with TikTok. It's not for me. But you do YouTube X and you start diversifying
the algorithms. That's a lot more exciting. And I find you can be a lot more consistent and a lot
more mentally healthy working two algorithms rather than one. So you're not depending on like,
oh, if my last post doesn't do well, I'm going to be pissed. Well, if you have it on both YouTube
and X, now you have like multiple algorithms you're working it's a lot more interesting i think it's better for your
mental health in my personal opinion brian decoded unmuted then muted again what was that brian
decoded what were you going to say in that i just love and i can rely on the ads and the google
algorithm for the search so i don't depend on any algorithm what on youtube no i just
run ads like what are you running ads on google ads for search it's like the easiest way to get
people that have intent this way i never relied on anyone you know you get enough traffic and
like we convert those clicks into clients and make money that way that works if you got a uh
you got an agency a lot of people are just trying to get some attention they're just trying to grow
they're just trying to get seen for the sake of being seen well i'm not doing that by the way i'm
not doing that that's not my entire what's your intent what's that what's your intent? What's that? What's your intent? My intent is to see X, particularly X spaces, to become the most used medium for citizen journalism in the United States.
You think that's going to happen?
Not at the rate of improvement that we have going on now no nope yeah we're seeing a
decline like i can't worry about spaces right now because the platform is not doing good you know
people if people leave the platform because the posts aren't working well spaces are going to
suffer you can't see spaces right now hardly the fleet lines not working half the time
You can't see spaces right now.
Hardly the fleet lines are not working half the time.
And if there's issues with visibility because spaces are a post,
right.
Then,
then that post also suffers the same algorithm problems that,
that any other does.
So they,
they have a lot of,
you know what diligent,
I have to,
we all have to hack it to find this fucking space it's ridiculous
like honestly to diligence point i literally have to tap on all of your fucking faces
to see where you are you know so i'll go okay is diligent running a space is alex running a space
is scobal running a space or like please you know and so for like like I would like to also say something about you guys are
talking about YouTube and you know um Yvonne and I had a kind of a back and forth about uh about
TikTok and so we were both coming from the same perspective like it's brain rot but if again we
don't work together we're just friends whatever i just co-host for her
once a week but anyway point being that you know she has a great body of work from the limitless
spaces and so who has a great body who has a great body a great body of work that would be
and she's everybody's favorite person
anyway point being that i kept saying to her you know you need to splice this together
you need to make her body of work not yet but anyways you know but again i like you need to
put all these things together and catalog all the spaces and the best bullet points, because I think you
could probably write a book. And so yesterday we were in a space talking about, you know,
talking about the algorithm and monetization, whatever. And so she brought up a person who's
kind of marginal, um, in their sharing and probably like, basically like I just talk garbage and it's just like clicks for
likes and I'm like yeah it just feels like brain rot and that I I can't sell my soul
and and she said well yeah guess what he's making this much money and so then I said to myself Yvonne here's what we're going to do you're going to catalog
the the best parts of your limitless spaces and kind of you know contradict the brain rot
on TikTok because you deserve to make bank Does that make sense? No. What doesn't make sense, Alex?
I don't know. Brain rot. I don't know. No, I totally get it. I totally get it.
Listen, I mean, you bring up a good point, which is what's going on here with spaces.
They're getting de-boosted. They're getting de-boosted to shit.
The posts that have the spaces in it are de-boosted to shit.
The notifications, like people tell me they have live notifications on for me.
They tell me the live notifications don't even work anymore for spaces.
You know, if they want spaces to grow, which I'm in agreement with Diligent. Like I thought it was going to be like the new age, new frontier media.
I think it's fucking sick. This is fun. We've been here here an hour and a half i never can do things for an hour and
a half we've been here for an hour and a half right it's amazing but it's not getting the
loving it's not getting it's actually doing the opposite of getting the loving it's getting the
hate it's getting worse the i mean shout out to zach real quick, though. We like I have to I have to give credit where credit's due.
You know, Zach, the ex-employee, he actually just rolled out a new spaces analytics tab.
If you go to the analytics tab or for the, you know, your account analytics spaces has its own tab over there now where you can get some really good uh analytic
metrics for for your spaces they are sick it's sick it really yeah so how much your your spaces
are de-boosted right i'd rather well you can see you can see your peak times for different speakers
uh you can see you know uh the duration of listeners right so how long somebody stayed in your space
on average uh there there's a some pretty cool metrics in there but yeah i get your point too
so by the way it's putting investing in your brand even when it's not working pays off when the
platform upgrades and so you know you keep talking about uh payment systems coming
that should be integrated with spaces maybe that's a way to make some money in the future
but you're building your brand right now on spaces and building relationships and getting
you know getting people to speak and all that that'll pay dividends uh when they fix this shit because it needs lots of fixes
my account's kind of different than the most people's in that regard where
most of my followers are from spaces and so whenever i host a space i probably
have more notifications for listeners than most i have all of you guys all of the hosts i have
on notifications robert i see you hopping into spaces all day long i i often put the ones that
you hop into into the spaces host chat um because it works as a good feed for us to see spaces that
normally don't show up on the timeline and so like go ahead so here's a here's a hack for like
uh finding spaces that pretty much like
your audience is in or um talking speaking in or whatever hosting um go to the search bar and then
type in filter colon spaces all one word and it pulls up all the spaces that anyone you're
like mutuals with or whatever is either hosting or, um, speaking in.
Yes. If we can just do a root cause analysis, right. Cause again, it's just not showing up.
And so again, I just can tap on the spaces bar and I can see the people that I either follow
or, um, follow me, me, whatever, to get on that
space.
Do you mean the fleet line?
Do you mean the fleet bar?
No, no, no, no, sir.
Okay.
Like the fleet line hasn't been up for days.
And so I find myself having to go to the like little microphone and see what spaces are
popping off. And so it gives me an
order like people that i subscribe to people that subscribe to me people yeah yeah yeah the spaces
which is a shit show it's a shit show in there but exactly the point is the point is is to alex
alex's point which is if if there's no discoverability you know the dedicated
spaces hosts and listeners are going to go through all of that to find a space just like you described
however spaces as a whole are not going to grow they're going to diminish because normies aren't
going to go through all of that to find a space you know what i mean like we're going to lose people so right now uh in spaces is losing people you know the one of the ex-developers came
back he was their main android guy for a long time he just recently came back like a week ago and he
put out a post and i think that they're i've pissed off a few of the i don't know what i did but i
think i pissed off like a faction within x anyways my
point is because some of them talk to me and some of them don't i'm a little vocal about what i think
and that might be problematic i'm there by the way diligent yeah i'm not kissing anybody's ass
they can they can suck it but anyways um he he like he's like hey uh we're gonna start iterating
android really quickly now.
We need beta. We need beta testers.
You know, do you want to do like a nightly?
And I've done that before for different apps.
You know, I am a computer science major.
I've done it on my own and I've also done it as part of a program.
And I was like, yo, you can you add me?
Hell yeah, I'm down.
My main driver is Android android all of my hours of
usage other than when i'm in spaces is on android like i'm i'm you know i got you and he's like i'm
like can you please make spaces a priority and his only response was we're prioritizing features
based on their usage and i because i had said i said can you please
prioritize android for spaces because it's completely broken and his response was we
prioritize features based on usage and i almost said to him well if your feature wasn't fucking
broken on the platform maybe you would get used a little bit more but you know it is what it is i didn't
say the issue and that's why zach built us analytics so that so like i heard from within
x that we are uh the people who use spaces like we use spaces but we are a minority we are a fringe-obsessed minority and not representative of the platform's users as a whole.
But now that we have analytics on Spaces, I guarantee you we who use Spaces probably spend more time on the platform than anyone else, than any other user.
And ultimately, user minutes should equate to value in some way. So I'm grateful for the analytics so that they have something
tangible to put in front of them and say, like, look, like it might not be a lot of people, but
look how many hours it is or whatever but they definitely need just like help with
discoverability we should be categorized based on topic so that people can see if I want to see
what news spaces are happening what tech spaces are happening like but right now you can't even
say did you guys know that the topics thing up top, like where it says technology, world news, digital creators, did you know that that is different for everybody based on how you set up your account?
So, like, I can't ever on any device, not on web, not on iOS, not on iPhone, not on Android.
I can never host a space with the topic artificial intelligence in it.
I can't do it.
It's the only thing i talk about
is ai and i can't host a space with artificial intelligence in the topic
i don't know why i was like in a live space with a bunch of people and we all compared like
when you start an account when you start an account it gives you
suggested follows and then it gives you suggested topics
and so whenever you choose those suggested topics it generates a field of of topics for your spaces
and once they're generated they stay generated there's no changing them
interesting i mean here's what it comes down to is it's based on usage of people as, as you said, are not going to be using this as much if shit's broken.
Like, I remember like two years ago, this shit was popping off. You'd be able to any given night go in any space.
There are many that you start one up, you instantly get like 1,500 people in this space. No big deal.
I remember I broke news about some bullshit in the algorithm. I immediately started space.
1,600 people came in the next second. Like immediately started space. 1,600 people came in the next second.
Like 10 seconds later, 1,600 people were in.
Man, those were the golden days of spaces.
And it's like, if you only improve things based on usage,
no one will use those.
People stop using the ones you're not improving, right?
You got to, I mean, I do believe right now at the same time,
we should take every engineer off of every feature on X and put them on the algorithm.
I think that's the core of what drives everything.
If you fix the algorithm, I think every other feature gets improved and is better.
If you fix the algorithm and spaces actually go on the feed, boom, more people are going to use spaces because there's more people listening to spaces.
I think we should stop getting like analytics improvements until the algorithm's
better. Like, yeah, I'm glad I have analytics on my space, but I want more people in my space.
So can we do that first before I get the spaces analytics? But I mean, at the same time.
Well, they're different people.
But so Alex, to your point about the heyday of spaces, like two years ago, that's where the platform actually got monetized, right?
And so what I saw through monetization is all of a sudden it became expedient for people to talk to each other that hated each other, right?
And so I saw people kind of come together and have conversations so
i know that people like kind of crap on the monetization because did you just get out or is
me no i can hear all right yeah yeah like rightfully so because so many people came up just
to make a buck right um but you know you think X would have been better without monetization?
No, I actually don't.
Why?
Because it's exposure.
What do you mean it's exposure?
Okay, so if you're here just to say what you think and mean what you say and just, you know, kind of just be kind and try to understand people on their terms.
That's a hard road to walk and you're going to get a whole bunch of trash thrown at you.
Right. And I think that most of the people that came on the platform two years ago saw where they could make some money and then kind of threw out greater content and blah blah blah
and then they got pissed off when they weren't making a bunch of money but to those of us who
you know kind of just like like people you know and we can argue sometimes, you know, um, but we're still in each other's presence,
you know, that, that, that's a different type of a grit. And so like, I'm going to, I'm going to
explain to me though. Why, why, why is it a better place here with monetization?
Well, it, like when I say this, okay, please understand it exposed everybody for why they're really here.
Yes, correct.
I'll leave it there.
You said you took five minutes to say absolutely nothing.
I didn't understand.
No, no, no.
Okay, excuse me.
You agreed with me and I said absolutely nothing. I was agreeing with you to keep the conversation.
I believe she called you a grifter, Alex.
I believe she's calling you a grifter, sir.
Yeah, Alex.
How dare you? I have no idea what anyone's thought. Dylan, do. I believe she's calling you a grifter. Yeah, Alex. How dare you?
I have no idea what anyone's thought.
Dylan, do you think this platform's better with monetization?
I'm saying that there was an exposure problem.
No, no.
This platform has not.
The monetization shit's been cool.
Hold on, hold on.
You asked me a question.
The monetization thing's been okay for some.
It's been good for some. it's been good for some it's
been better for others it's been i haven't made a lot of money off of this platform the most money
that i make off of this platform are through my subscribers and and you know i would argue that
monetization through the platform those are people who are just using the you know the platform facilitates
a monthly subscription program right so i guess that's not platform based i would argue that's
i mean they just do that as like a boon to us but um but like the you know the ad share the ad
revenue sharing or whatever that's only greatly bet for you to benefited i think a few not not a
whole bunch the subscribers, that's cool.
I don't make enough money to live off of on this platform.
Sponsorships have made it possible for me to do this full time.
That's the only way I've been able to make it work.
Robert, do you think X is better with the ad revenue share?
It encourages people to create content at a certain quality level so i think it has
helped on that aspect it has changed the platform uh to be a little less organic
right because people are trying to make money here well it's not ad rev share anymore though
it was and it's not ad rev share anymore it was which was and it was good
when it was ad rev share no but they were like targeted but now what they've done is they changed
the rev share program to not be based on ads and then they price hiked the premium version of the
app to 50 a month which made most users drop down to a version where they are
seeing ads again.
So now the money is back in advertising, but it's not in the creator rev share pool.
Yeah, I say ad rev share anyway, even though it's not ad rev shares because I am used to
saying it.
And also every time I say ad rev share i get like 20
replies there it's not ad rev share anymore it's creator revenue i just i love like i want them to
go back to ad really different though because they still they still run ads right like where's the
money coming from like so let's like let's see your i'm sorry yeah um do you mean where is it
coming from or where is it going to? Because where it used to be.
What is it called now? Let's just start there.
It's the creator rev share program.
And what they did was take, I think, 40 percent of a premium plus or premium plus subscription costs.
And they put it in a pool and divvied it out amongst the monetized creators.
And how do you know and how do they decide who gets what based on views or something?
So according to them, it's based on exactly one metric only.
And that was engagement of verified users.
So like non-blue checks don't mean anything.
Those impressions are not monetizable.
But how many verified impressions you had was apparently the only metric.
We never had any like real transparency on that.
What I'm saying is initially when they, so they were like incentivizing everyone to get premium plus because there were two delineations.
Premium engagement was worth less than premium plus because there were two delineations premium engagement was worth less
than premium plus user engagement but they got rid of the ad rev share so they're they're
pocketing the ad rev money and they created a pool of 40 percent of premium plus subscriptions
and they divvied that up amongst us based on how much engagement we get from premium plus subscriptions and they divvied that up amongst us based on how much engagement we get
from premium plus and then premium accounts but now what they've done with the change in the
pricing model is effectively incentivize users to go to drop down to the eight or nine dollar a month
plan where they're seeing advertisements again because they needed to get advertisers
on the platform to make money.
And so they disincentivized premium plus, which is the metric that matters.
That's the heaviest weighted for payouts.
And now we get no ad revenue share, even though, yes, the ads are being served on our content. I just don't think tweets work no ad revenue share, even though yes, the ads are being served on our content.
I just don't think tweets work for ad revenue share.
I just don't think it works.
I think it works on YouTube because the barrier for creation on YouTube is high.
It takes a lot of effort to script, film, and edit videos.
So it's very hard to create slop on YouTube. It's very hard to
engagement farm on you. I mean, it's impossible. It's impossible. You can't engagement farm on
YouTube because it just takes, it takes too much effort to create the content and it takes too
much effort to consume the content. The issue with X is it is an extremely low barrier for both
creation and consumption. And so it becomes extremely easy
to engagement farm and get clicks and get eyeballs. And so I just don't think ad revenue
matches up with that because it starts incentivizing the kind of low quality human slop.
I think human slop is worse than AI slop, right? Humans taking advantage of the system to try to
take advantage of the ad
revenue. I just don't think it works. I would have rather seen monetization a lot of other
different ways, right? I would have rather seen monetization with a super chat in spaces,
a super chat in live streams, tipping on posts. Those are all different things that incentivize
good content. I don't think ad revenue incentivizes
good content. I think it incentivizes bad content. And when you incentivize bad content,
it drives people off the platform. Especially when you're constantly
toying with your algorithm and shit, there's no consistency to it. So how is a creator
supposed to build, you know, anything if it's constantly shifting the reception and visibility of his content let's say
that he's curating his content for his audience uh and and he's responding to you know he's he's
reacting or he's responding to what he's seeing um and his viewership but then all of a sudden
the next day you know or the next week the algorithm is completely shifted away from whatever you know
however he's formatting his content and so now he's trying to keep up with it like i think
i think monetizing the timeline should happen last after you get all of your other worked out
um sorted out to a place where it's stable and and and like you said direct monetization is the key in the year
they should have completely prioritized super chats uh for spaces in live and then just took
a little piece of that revenue and fed it back into the system especially with live that would have incentivized them to do more development with live
in spaces i think and and even even their uh conference their video conferencing which is
still never fully rolled out it's supposed to roll out around the beginning of the year and and just
it just got i don't know i think it had a fatal error and they just haven't been able to fix it
i don't know why but my point is is like if they would have focused maybe some of their development in those areas um
and and you know had that flow coming in because i think there's a good creator economy
from dedicated users on here and subscribers right like i think that people will pay you directly for your content if it's quality.
And that's like, instead of relying on an algorithm to dictate visibility,
you have users directly upvoting you or downvoting you through their subscriptions
or through their tipping or super chats or whatever right well all
of that is great for us but it's not profitable as like a platform model um unfortunately so like
the the reason that they so heavily incentivized creators was to get better advertisers over here
like it never was about us earning money uh it was about them earning money with
better ads you get higher quality creators if you drain other platforms of their talent
and get them over here then higher quality creators will follow well they never came
that's because that's because they're uh you know twitch has super chats YouTube has super chats Twitch is not profitable
It's hemorrhaging
But it was
But it was
It was
When they rolled out the creator subscription program
It was profitable
It was still doing good over there
A year and a half, two years ago
Why do you think that they're failing right now?
I've heard of a number of reasons
of why they're failing right now.
No, I'm asking you because I have friends that work for Twitch.
I don't use Twitch, so I can't honestly tell you.
Are you going to let me answer the question or not?
You asked me a question.
It's okay.
I've heard a number of reasons one was because of how they um they were like de-platforming people i've i've heard it was partly because of
censorship another reason was partly because of poor administration uh within the company itself
uh i don't really know though i mean robert would probably know
more than me not really when it comes to twitch why it's failing yeah well there's a lot of
political shit going on there i think i don't like the way they treated dr disrespect i think
that was pretty fucked and i think when you just take political sides on everything you you alienate
people and drive them away right so i think just a lot of people are alienated by them taking such
strong stances on so many things it's like i don't know i think it doesn't make sense that
happened here that happened here a lot of people left yeah but they're coming back, Robert. Yeah. My feet is going fast.
Yeah.
They're coming back.
Liberal people are coming back.
Oh, yeah.
They're coming back in droves, bro.
Oh, yeah.
Are you sure?
Oh, 100%.
100%.
It's a better platform.
I can't do X-Pro on the other platforms.
I can't look at 27,000 people in a community on other platforms.
It just doesn't work.
I hope they're coming back.
I hope so. I'd like this to be...
Mark Hamill came back today.
Mark Hamill came back today.
Stephen King came back a few weeks
ago. And the smaller liberals
are all coming back here.
They're in my comments again. They're trolling.
They went away just after
the election when they were in their
cope phase and, oh, fuck
this. I'm never coming back to this platform.
Now they're all back. They're all coming
back because
you don't want to go shit in Echo Chamber
and just, I don't know.
Trolls are wonderful.
They really are.
I think we need to support our trolls.
Engagement is what matters right now.
And trolls are engagement.
I'll give you an example of the SEO community.
All of them left for Blue Sky.
And they were trying to leave.
But the SEO community is so much bigger than just liberals that are in SEO.
Even though it's predominantly liberal industry and they
started coming back because they can't get clients because there's people are here so
like we've seen them leave the platform then come back the gravity pool of x is just so much bigger
than blue sky and threads combined like they can't compete and they don't have enough data
well it's the network effect right
is the power of the network effect uh x will always be number one because it has the power
the network effect if you try to go anywhere else you're not going to get the views you're
not going to get the impressions you're not going to get the sales right that's why creator buddy
it's built for x this is where the the network effect is and now i'm on youtube i'm exploding
on youtube i'm going to build a tool for youtube because the network effects they're insane it's all about network effects
is what i can't wait to get that tool in my hands
i uh i'm cooking up the second tool the second tool is i'm still cooking up a lot for creator
buddy there always be new features every week for creator buddy but the second tool work has begun
you add me to beta i'll i'll get you in the beta we'll keep in touch this one's a this one's going to be insane i think
this one's going to be i think it's a billion dollar idea um we're about two hours in yo what's
up we got kevin on stage kevin my man we did we did south by southwest Southwest a month ago or so.
Everyone should be following Kevin.
Follow Kevin.
You were stumbling around 6th Street together, huh?
Ayo.
We were.
Not really. It was a boys' trip where no one...
With no drinking, yeah.
That's smart.
You got to get some good barbecue?
Yeah, definitely.
A lot of good barbecue.
And then, yeah, did some healthy stuff, you know, like exercise and
drive around in Cybertrucks. You go see
the bats under the bridge?
No, we have to.
Next time.
You gotta ask Grock, where are the bats under
the bridge? It'll tell you.
Next time. Next time we go
to South by Southwest. We'll do that.
You know, I think
this conversation's missing. Like the best thing
that X has is networking. And if you have a small audience or a large audience, if you connect with
them, I mean, one of the huge things is you can talk directly to your community. You can't do that
on other places. And so to try to wish that it's something that it's not is a lost cause, but to see the real value in it.
And then to go deeper with that and really kind of explore like, you know, who here,
um, like I've had a whole bunch of stuff happen offline through relationships that I've built.
And I think that's really the big, the biggest value of X. And if everybody could get 200,000 followers like Alex, you can sell a lot of stuff.
And Alex has really used it, especially when you're doing the regular streaming, where you got to know everybody.
You talked on a regular basis.
And I've had times I do a daily space, but some days it's like lately, it's kind of sucked with not many
people, but I don't give a fuck because my, um, speaking ability has gotten so much better.
And so there's so many things that I gained from it, that it really matters to me that I do it on
a regular basis. From, uh, doing so many spaces, but when I started spaces three years ago, I was
the shittiest speaker ever.
Then you just do it over and over and over and over again.
You get fucking great at it.
It literally improves your speaking skill sets doing this shit.
But also to your point,
like you brought up the best point, networking.
But at the same time, it has to be genuine.
It cannot be contrived.
So in other words, it is the greatest networking platform.
And I think that that's the true value of this platform, right?
Because I don't give a damn how much I make in ad revenue.
You could wipe your ass with what I make.
But at the end of the day, I have, you know,
learned so much from all of you guys and, you know, met people like just offering me jobs all
the time, you know, just being myself and not being contrived. And I think that, you know,
Alex, I think that that speaks to you because again, I understand you,
you're like, you've built an incredible network around you. You've built things that I couldn't possibly imagine. And that's why I have you bookmarked constantly, right? But at the same
time, you know, you never know who you're going to meet in spaces. And as long as you're being genuine and kind and allowing other people
to speak about things that perhaps you don't know anything i don't think something is genuine
i don't think maybe maybe you think maybe well i'm sorry i'm definitely not something for you
but anyway the point being that like but but point being is that you get incredible opportunities.
Don't be reductionary.
Be open-minded.
Listen to everyone and give the best benefit that you have to give.
Anyway, I got to go take care of my dog.
Follow Sarah.
I love her.
God bless you guys.
I got a story to share. Like it's my
ex history. And I think it could resonate with a lot of
people. And it's all the way back in the days when my account was like
tiny and I had like 15,000 followers. I don't think it mattered
because the surface area that you
need to win. Like I got some pretty important clients that changed my life
and X allowed me to generate,
like I can attribute to X like over a half a million dollars
and I didn't force it.
It just came to me
and you don't even have to have like a big network
and you don't even have to have a lot of impressions
or likes or replies.
Like you need to get that one person to connect with you
that will change your life.
You know, like one client can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars with you
and that client didn't find you through your viral thread
or through your like super important tweet.
They found you through a post that resonated with them.
So you never know what's going to hit.
And it doesn't have to be like a post that everyone saw.
There you go.
You just got to connect with your audience.
That's why I like video.
People see your face.
They connect with you.
You feel connected by seeing the face.
Diligent.
Do video.
Anyway, listen, it's been two hours here.
My voice is shot shot i want to play
marvel rivals this is fun as always i didn't want to shout you out and creator buddy make
sure you guys are all well look at creator buddy just spreading everywhere look at all of these
orange badges it's the creator buddy orange mafia over here i I'm just wondering when somebody is going to... I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm not suicidal.
I'm not suicidal.
I was following up
into the last part, to be quite honest
with you. I was following up
into the last part. You think
creator buddy mafia is going to kill you?
Hey, listen.
I just felt a little intimidated as I started to look
at how many badges there were
and then the level of the people
wearing the badges. It's almost like
some Illuminati
or the skull and bones
or whatever.
We are the creator buddy-yachty.
And you're going to sleep with the
fishes.
If you ever need to change your profile picture,
do anything diligent.
You got an open offer for the badge.
So let me know.
I also shout out diligent.
That is in one of the best spaces.
So son X,
the best news spaces those by far,
make sure to give him a follow.
It was great having you up here.
My dude,
great having everyone up here.
Robert,
Sarah,
we do this every Monday or so.
Creator Buddy is my AI content app.
It's the greatest AI content app of all time.
If you want to create better content and grow and go viral, hit the Creator Buddy icon, go to the website, sign up for it.
Bookmark functionality this week.
It'll send you five random bookmarks every day that you're bookmarked to.
It's really sick.
Follow your co-host, Robert Scoble,
one of the best AI minds on the platform, making really the best original AI content on the
platform. Also has a personality. Not many people have personalities around here,
which is pretty great. Keep talking. You're feeding my ego. It's lovely.
There we go. I'm happy to. Sarah, one of the best co-hosts in the game, as good of a co-host as it gets.
You know she's always the number one co-host.
You go to any major space, she's there.
Best co-host there is.
Follow your speakers.
Brian Decoded, great having you up here.
Sierra, great talking as always.
We talk few and far between, but when we talk, it's a banger.
Love having you up here, Sierra.
Ani, one of my closest friends on here.
Kevin, my dude, one of the smartest businessmen on planet Earth.
I never asked people, but appreciate it.
There you go.
Sorry, I was looking at the DM.
Dan, always good having you up here, my man.
AI John Allen, my dude from way back when.
Ice World, you didn't speak, but it's good having you up here anyway.
Appreciate everyone for listening.
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Do it.
Follow his list.
And I don't know, do something fun.
Build something, build something, build something.
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Build something with AI.
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So love you all.
Thank you all.
We'll see you next week.
I truly appreciate your support.
This was a banger space. We had like 400. There's 147 replies. Holy shit. Love you all. We'll see you next week. I truly appreciate your support. This was a banger space.
We had like 400.
There's 147 replies.
Holy shit.
Love you all.
Thank you all for your support.
Seriously.
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