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Making Blockchain Work for the Real World
Recorded: Aug. 14, 2025 Duration: 1:09:27Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, Maeve's CEO Nick outlines the platform's mission to democratize investment access, emphasizing partnerships, compliance with MICA standards, and the potential for high yields in both traditional and crypto markets.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, let's see if anybody hear me well?
What do you think? I don't know what is happening. you
all right
hello glad coin can you hear me yeah all right go ahead awesome thank you welcome welcome
this is great i see new people in the audience. Hello, Mellie, Oji, Maevee. Who is our speaker today? please find the people button and ask to speak
hello hello dear geeks Yeah, Jim, Jim, what's up?
Coddle, Jasmine, it's been a while.
A shallow akinterhood.
Yes, love you too. I'm excited. We've got the sound working. Let's see. This is Stephanie. you know uh here because we have a wonderful new guest who is a partner from
uh the real world asset world i'm pretty excited about that because these days
assets are recognizing that they need security and that's wonderful we're in a more
conscious consumer conscious environment where security is important rather than just getting
transactions racking up the transaction numbers i'm really excited to talk about this today
let's wait just a few more minutes so I can figure out who would like to be speaker.
Is there anyone else who would like to be a speaker?
Can you raise your hand? Thanks, Mr. Vani. I'd like to remind you of this card. I don't know if there's anything
you know, I have a plan about it. Is there any launching advice?
Gladcoin's letting us in on a little daily activity there. Emi Wind is here. That's awesome. Emmy, you're putting
out great content for geek. I love it. Let's good.
Black coin mute please.
Okay, I think we may have our speaker on deck and in the room.
Yes, thank you so much.
And I think it is our question to wait a little bit, fill time say hello to everyone robbie can't be here today and i know he's the most outgoing geek we have um charming is all get out so i have to be here
sorry about that folks brave is here um a little bit of insight maybe um let's see what have i been doing so one of the things
that we have been working on as you all know is the geek digital id which may be something that
ID which may be something that our two projects can follow up on next week and
in more conversations because Geeks ID is sort of an ability to charge your online identity. So you can take a local route of a verified or a KYC identity and from that
continue to make new digital identities that refer back to that, but don't necessarily
leave a trail where other people can follow you around. I think that's really important. I think that
security of identity is something that we're all going to have to deal with. And before we get
started, I'll just tell you a story. This had to do with my sending an international wire last week.
wire last week. The institution that I was trying to send from didn't recognize me. I was trying to
send a wire from a different account. Usually I use a different institution. It was going
internationally. They weren't sure about that. My phone was in a different state, they weren't sure about that. In fact, they were pretty darn sure I was a fraud. And so I tried to do things online,
that didn't work. I called for help. They said, go through your mobile app in order to
authenticate. And then if you can authenticate,
then you can complete this wire transaction
with the person who is on the phone.
So it turns out that when I downloaded
this institution's app,
it wouldn't allow me to take a photo of my driver's license and upload it on the spot.
it wouldn't allow me to
They wanted to know from my phone that that was happening in real time.
And then they wanted me to take a selfie and send it to them in real time.
So those were the two-factor authentication methods
that they wanted to use to authenticate that I was the right person
trying to send this wire.
And my phone is set up with so many privacy bars
that the camera wouldn't take anything to send to this new app that I was trying to use.
And I told them about this.
I said this was an online known bug in their application.
And they said, well, that's too bad.
In order to send this wire, you must authenticate through our app
that invades your phone to take your camera over your camera so that you
can load up all this personal information or we won't do it. I really got angry and I said this
is my money this is my account I've answered all your questions to authenticate and you're making
me use this crappy app and they said well can't help you but you can drive two
hours to the nearest physical office to authenticate in person so long story
short there's a lot of ways to improve payments international payments and we And we are so happy that our friends are working on that.
Let's see.
Did someone become a listener again?
Do I need to send another invitation?
And I'm sorry for not introducing you sooner.
Would you please me in?
Would you please send me?
Yeah, there.
And let's get the star for this week.
On the stage.
Hello.
How are you?
Yeah, very well.
Don't know what happened there.
I had to just jump out, jump back in.
Obviously couldn't get the speaker request on,
but yeah, fantastic to be here.
Good evening, good morning, depending where you're at.
And good evening to you, it sounds like.
Is that right?
Yeah, so I'm actually, I'm based in Ireland,
so it's about 9 p.mpm in the evening now, so yeah.
Thank you for spending time with us. Actually, you're in really good company. I see a lot of people in your time zone who are a little later here, and you've brought a lot of people. So please tell us about yourself to the geeks and me introducing yourself to your own crowd.
and may you introduce yourself to your own crowd?
Yeah, for sure.
So, guys, so anyone that doesn't know me,
I'm Nick, founder and CEO of Maeve.
A little bit about Maeve.
We focus on two verticals.
One is a consumer-facing side that is focused on giving people access
to high-yield, secure investment opportunities.
So I believe we're the only company in Europe anyway that can actually go out publicly
and advertise and raise capital from the retail market in both Web 2 and Web 3.
And yeah, the whole idea there is that we are providing access to opportunities
that have previously only been
accessible to commercial entities ultra high net worth individuals um or you know otherwise
exclusive um so our typical return rates there are around 20 per annum fixed plus additional
profit sharing all secured by underlying asset value um so yeah not a typical
tokenization project we don't uh we don't tokenize any individual assets per se uh we're all about
giving you guys a a set return a contracted return within a set time period um you don't have to worry about any individual asset performance
or anything like that.
Second vertical that we're focused on is payments and infrastructure.
So specifically cross-border payments in high friction corridors.
And again, making the solutions and the technology that we have available to us today easily apply to the
markets that we have today. So, you know, for example, everyone is talking about stablecoins
and stablecoin rails, but to the average Web2 company, that's just an entirely new world that
most people don't know a lot about um i'm sure everyone here
knows everything there is to know about stable coins and blockchain payments and everything else
but yeah the second vertical there is really focused on the application of current tech to
current markets so very excited to be here big thank you to geek for having us on and looking
forward to speaking a bit more. That's amazing.
That's amazing.
And congratulations that you're up and you're really protecting the consumers.
We love that.
Do you have a particular pain point that you'd like to share um that blockchain can realistically solve because people
sometimes ask us where is the value for the user is blockchain going to be really useful you need
it i'd love to hear your answer because of course we believe that can happen. Well I'll speak first just on a
huge pain point in the RWA sector in the traditional world that you know doesn't necessarily apply to
us and the verticals that we're operating in but a huge thing if we take blockchain to its most basic definition, it's an immutable ledger.
And if we look at real world assets, if we look at properties, assets, land, all throughout the globe,
buying and selling property can become a very difficult process
because you're essentially buying and selling the titles that are the rights to that property.
essentially buying and selling the titles that are the rights to that property.
And traditionally, a lot of time and money is spent
making sure that there's no encumberments on those titles,
that they're legitimate titles, that no one else has any claim to those assets.
There's a whole lot of administration on that alone.
Not to mention every other part of the process
is just so labor intensive with administration and blockchain really provides the opportunity there
for just a major increase in efficiency in the market and therefore the reduction of a lot of wasted time, a lot of wasted cost.
So I think a major pain point there that's been solved in the RWA sector with tokenization
is those administrative inefficiencies. And we see a lot of that now where you hear projects that are
tokenizing $10 billion of real estate and people get very excited
um but what that actually means is that they're moving those assets they're moving that information
onto the blockchain um so yeah that that would be the the biggest one in the rwa sector that I see. For ourselves specifically, we're using tokenization as a means to legally
enable access for retail users into previously exclusive or inaccessible investment opportunities.
So it's more so of an operational and legality pain point for ourselves whenever it comes
to the investment pools.
But yeah, those are two major things.
And if we look at the payments space, it's not something people I think are as aware
of as they should be.
But whenever you're talking about cross-border payments
and the infrastructure that's there,
legacy banking rails are just so outdated.
It's unbelievable.
Like everybody here who is used to working with crypto and blockchain
and everything that you can do there,
you know, it's just like going back to the
dinosaur age whenever we talk about legacy banking rails you've got companies sending tens if not
hundreds of millions um on a daily basis across high friction corridors where they're dependent
on they're dependent on things like corresponding banking essentially, you go to your bank, you send the money.
It's supposed to go from, let's say, Latin America to Europe.
You know that the money's been sent, but where is that money actually
in the middle of the transaction?
It's going through a labor-intensive process
of correspondent banking
that you generally have no idea where it is
until it arrives in the destination.
So in terms of traceability and transparency,
there is a major, major gap there with legacy systems.
And that's obviously something that we're
addressing with with our payment product so yeah there are there are huge pain
points that we could sit and discuss all night but yeah that's that's
scratching the surface that's a really great summary. We might want to sit here and talk about those pain points all night because I think sometimes it is not the shiny object, but removing the friction that makes technology so meaningful.
And the fact that you address that head on is really commendable I think.
Obviously you understand the area. What was your background before founding Maeve?
Previously I was involved in construction and development.
The team that we had at hand was involved in approximately $5 billion worth of projects across the globe from the US to the Middle East to Europe, Asia and the UK.
and the UK.
So my focus prior to getting into blockchain
and starting Maeve was on
mid-sized developments
across the UK and Ireland,
really focusing on the capital raising,
capital deploying side of things
and managing project life cycles.
And whenever COVID hit, it really exposed a lot of the flaws
in what I would call traditional finance facilities
and traditional finance provision,
which led to the two things that's really a double-edged sword.
Number one, there must be a better way to raise capital and deploy capital
with terms that suit the real world more effectively.
And then secondly, why is it that no retail user,
and whenever I say retail user,
we're talking about everybody from having $5 to $5 million,
just if anyone has a different definition of retail.
But why is it that none of these hardworking people
or any average investor has access to opportunities like this
where their capital is so secured via the underlying land value,
their returns are contracted, so on and so forth.
And there's a litany of reasons,
everything from legal reasons to actual barriers to entry,
like the amount of capital required.
But that was really the genesis story for me that's
incredible so you're you know from experience how sensitive people's like real lives are to these
delays and inability to tap markets um oh yeah 100 and you know i also had the pleasure or displeasure depending on what
part of it you want to look at but of being a part of the last uh cycle and so i've been in
crypto now for probably six or seven years and obviously a lot more involved since we started looking
into Maeve, but that was something that really struck me
in the market the last time, that there's so many projects
out there that are just there to extract value from users,
that are just there to put on a show and grab what they can and disappear.
And that's exactly what Maeve is here to prevent and do the opposite of,
which is give people a peace of mind and a new value
in what they consider a good value investment.
consider a good value investment.
So yeah, it's a story that, you know,
there is a backstory there and a lot of experience.
And obviously the team that we have are in similar positions.
So we're looking forward to making a dent in the space.
That's great.
You have the full support of geek believers.
have the full support of geek believers.
It's hard sometimes to stand up
and take the route that we have values.
It's going to take some time to see success,
but it sounds like you have the ingredients.
Would you like to talk about your team a little?
Yeah, I mean, I can give you a brief overview and some of the people involved
but uh i think probably yeah no i think probably best guys if you want to check out the team you
know feel free to check out mave.io that's our website um go to the About section and, you know, the core team is there and represented
and you'll be able to see their backgrounds, their LinkedIn, everything.
You know, we range from the likes of myself involved in construction development
to our CMO being involved in some of the biggest projects around previously to having team members there that
are very experienced in banking and capital markets.
So yeah, we're most certainly not shooting in the dark, as I would say.
That's great. And so let's turn a little bit to your emphasis on verifiability, because that's where Geek is think about where blockchain can provide some verifiable rails at L0.
And what do you mean by verifiable finance?
Where do you, is it the payment side mostly
or is it on both sides?
I definitely think that verifiable finance is very applicable in the payment space,
obviously, but whenever I give the example of correspondent banking and legacy rails,
you know, there is a huge push in the traditional payment markets at the moment
for great data sharing and greater traceability so
those things it's just about being able to apply them in a way that works in a way that meets
the markets that are already there but whenever we talk about verifiable finance you know we can talk about things like
on-chain proofs and every transaction contract and settlement is independently independently
audible on the blockchain and I'll go back to correspondent banking again but you know you've
got trust there without middlemen there's a transaction that takes place with a beginning and an end.
You don't need that third-party trust.
We're now in a time where we've got things like MICA,
which enables projects to be a lot more regulatory ready.
And yeah, just I think with the advantages that are there,
there's just the ability to have higher standards overall.
And obviously that traceability and increased transparency
is the perfect ingredients for greater trust,
investor confidence, and obviously user confidence.
And that's what you need if you're going to trust someone with your,
your hard earned money,
whether it's for an investment or whether it's for a payment,
you know,
you obviously need to have confidence in the system that you're using.
Agreed.
Yeah.
100% agree.
And this issue of correspondent banks in in the U.S., there's a lot of excitement around stablecoins going into banks.
So much demand for stablecoins that are all going to come from smaller banks funneling up to major banks who are going to have to deal with reconciling these demands for a new asset that they don't know about.
And I'm just waiting for the snarls to occur and the layers of protection to repeat themselves.
And it's going to take a while, I think.
That's my view.
I don't know.
That verifiability is probably going to be layered in both the regular systems and in
these private blockchain systems.
Everybody's making their own private blockchain systems. Everybody's making their own private blockchain platform
and it's still not really going to be
visible to the user,
like you say,
with proof for a while.
At least that's my impression
in the US.
And I think it sort of has to do with
your chain of thought.
There's all these correspondent banks that are really trying to scramble right now.
Yeah, it's definitely a point in the market where the entire infrastructure,
the entire system, everything is changing globally.
And all of these guys are scrambling now so that
they're not left behind i mean obviously you've got the big players there who are introducing
stable coins and other assets as another asset class to extract a fee from um but there are some
big players starting to make a few waves in regards to the wider payment space. How transparent they're going to actually
allow that to be, who knows. But yeah, I think we're both positioned, both projects, I mean,
are positioned to really take advantage of what we know, what we have access to, and assist or work along with that change.
Yes, agree. So glad, so glad we're partnering together in that. It's an interesting conversation that's developing because on the one hand, you have, I can hear you have the technical background to imagine what the rails have to look like.
But you're saying very much, you know, translate that into how can we apply this to pain points?
Where is the verifiability going to help the process to get the payments to somebody sooner?
Or we help them know where it's stuck in the system.
And so I think that's really good.
I think Geek has to do a better job of translating our understanding of the underlying
attack to cases like yours.
I'm learning a lot.
Really good job.
Yeah, just on that, we're both on the same page
whenever it comes to that side of things, because yeah,
our consumer-facing side is 100%
aimed for you know web3 users that know what they're doing but then on the payment side of
things and I think Geek also shares a lot of this where it's not necessarily about onboarding the
next cohort of people into web3 it's about using the technology available in Web3 and applying it as we can or hoping best be applied to the current pain points.
Yep. Get it right in a small area and then keep branching out.
Right. So how would you say, going back to the making capital accessible piece, would you tell us a little about how you conceived the starting point and then what your strategy is for building that out? Are you going for...
Well, just please tell us a little bit about your strategy. That would be really interesting.
You broke up just a little bit there, Stephanie, if you wouldn't mind just repeating the end
of what you said. Oh, yeah. What is the starting point that you chose for making capital markets more accessible?
For example, I don't know the background.
I'm sorry, did you start with smaller amounts and then graduate up to larger amounts?
Or where do you choose your starting point and then how do you grow from there?
So we're actually pre-launch on that side of things.
We have a number of very high quality relationships across the globe, specifically US, Europe
and Asia, with private equity partners, operators, and when I say operators, I mean direct relationships with large scale
developers. And I would say other key individuals, whether from credit or debt backgrounds.
So our reach is quite far in that regard. But as far as the capital raising side of things goes what we are doing is actually
enabling people to invest in the early stages of projects that they otherwise wouldn't be
able to get involved with so for example when our platform goes live and we have our perspectives
out and everything else.
Any individual in Europe, any retail individual in Europe or anywhere that accepts European
legislation will be able to get involved in the first round of equity in projects. projects you know for example it could be a shopping center redevelopment and where
we're in with another lead investor who our capital is the risk to the point that you have
extremely limited downside between secured value underneath from the underlying asset and also from contacts in place with you
know household names such as costco amazon uh chase whoever that may be that is an example
um but obviously those details will be available whenever the platform does go live but if you're
to think now if you want to get involved in something like that, where you can put your hard-earned capital and get a contract of return plus an additional profit share at the end of term, which could be anything from two to five years, there's nowhere where you can do that.
So what Maeve does is actually take the position of the investor in that project and give its users exposure obviously according to how much
they've invested themselves. But that's that yeah that's that's the big thing about it which is
accessibility and we spent probably just over two years before we ever mentioned publicly anything about Maeve, making sure that we could legally go and do
what we wanted to do and obviously getting the company structured and everything correctly,
that we could go out and actually do that and offer people the opportunity to get involved
with those kinds of investment pools. so that's really where it started um
but yeah we're currently running a testnet which is quite simple functionality the entire thing
is about reducing um reducing the amount of things that you need to think about
for want of a better way of putting it so you'll see you know two or three different pool
types on our testnet and literally you can see just what you're getting as a return when it's
paid and what other distributions are potentially available um and it just goes back to that
minimalist simplicity no stress um or as little stress as possible
uh so yeah i don't know if that answers your question stephanie but
it answers something it does and this is turning out to be one of our best founder spaces i think
because um i i see one of our partners in the audience continuum, and I don't know if she wants to become a speaker here, but I think for the audience at large, the concept of putting all those pieces in place,
all those pieces in place, making sure that you can do what you can do legally, institutionally.
It really does take time besides, you know, just, just in quotes, right, linking something up to blockchain. So I'm really, my hats off to you for getting the well-known names,
getting the distribution, essentially,
that will back these investments that you're going to make available.
And so everybody, you heard it here, test nets coming out and,
and everybody needs feedback on their test net. So, you know,
if you support regular people getting access to risk minimized returns they haven't had before in a legal way
all made right um go check them out and uh yeah i see that i see continuum um giving you hearts
as well she knows as well as i do what goes on in the background in fact I
start to become a speaker hi Christina hello Miss Stephanie what an exciting
topic for today it really is it's great to see progress right. Nick, please meet Christina. I hope you...
She's really into liquidity pools and real companies taking part in both Web 2 and Web 3.
So we could set you two up or see if there's some good help.
We're always open to
we're always open. We find
some of these spaces and things. It's a fantastic
time for
projects that are aligned
at least in Ethos
to explore if there are
any further synergies and things.
So yeah, for sure.
Feel free to reach out or Stephanie,
you can connect us 100%. It's great to meet you. Stephanie saw me in the audience and she knew I
would have comments about regulation and the new Clarity Act and Genius Act and Anti-CVDC Act that
just came out that provides that framework. So hi, everyone. I'm Christina Brujan.
I am CEO of Continual Market. We're an ecosystem of blockchain, AI, and quantum brands that are
focused on U.S. consumer compliance. And I work with celebrities to bring their dreams to reality
around fan-driven engagement. I work with deep tech brands around how they're going to enter the market
and really helping Fortune 500 brands understand, excuse me, liquidity pools, digital assets,
the custody that's needed when they're doing an investment versus when it is a commerce proof of
purchase. All of these things matter in the regulatory ecosystem. And I have a feeling that MAVE has kind of templatized what needs to happen in the banking ecosystem, which we've seen for years. XRP has kind of brought things to fruition.
JP Morgan is now involved custody is now involved there's a green light path and
I'm really curious if you can speak about Maeve's regulatory compliance how
you would educate fortune 500 and then I think that will inform how investors
really need to be looking at this whole new landscape for sure I will touch on it from a very high or top level. But yeah, I definitely think connecting you, Christine, with some of the other members of the team could be worthwhile.
is EU registered and we have set ourselves up that we can do everything that we say that we can do
that is compliant according to MICA. With regard to the banking and payment services side of things
we actually operate with 80 plus tier one and two regulated counterparties. So as far as custody and all of those scary words
for anyone who knows a bit about compliance,
we don't ourselves actually get involved in that.
And instead we use the correct tier one and two counterparties
depending on which region for any licensed activities.
Wow, so you hold to MECA standards, which is like big boy EU regulatory,
they set the standard. The US came back with this kind of loose framework to decriminalize,
but doesn't really give the clarity on all the things that you just discussed that's
a huge accomplishment to hit meka standard credibility wow yeah and i will go ahead and
before before you ask uh before you ask me any complicated questions or detailed questions there
we do have a full-on legal team there. Our lead legal is one of the main guys
with regards to blockchain regulation globally,
specifically in the EU and the US.
But yeah, that was the most important thing for me
whenever we were setting Maeve up
was that we were setting Maeve up
in a compliant and structured way
that we could legally go out to market a compliant and structured way that we could
legally go out to market and do what we wanted to do there's so many projects out there and i mean
they're you know at this rate there's hundreds of projects nearly a day popping up in the rwa space
claiming to be able to do x y and z and as someone who knows the amount of work that is involved in getting to that stage,
it just baffles me, you know, that some of these guys are just coming out
and within two days we can do this, we can do that.
And what you'll find is a lot of these projects
and some of the very big projects that I'm not going to name,
but they have been claiming to do the same or similar things for a very long time now.
And whenever it comes down to it, I can only say that, you know,
did they put the cart before the horse, as they would say in Ireland,
where they jumped into it, we can do this,
we can do that. And then as soon as you start to identify the different points in the regulatory
landscape, you start to realize, oh gosh, maybe we can't do that. So yeah, we are MICA compliant.
The structure in which we operate, we don't require a MICA license. However, we are 100%
MICA compliant. That's huge. I'd love to do offline and we'll dig into that claim because
it is a very big claim. And you actually touched on why Continuum exists. We want to peek under
the hood of these brand promises and understand can they actually deliver. Trust me, I've heard thousands
of these pitches. And I'm like, that's terrifying that you're out there telling the world that you
can do that. Because according to your tech, you don't do any of those things. And people talking
about, you know, creating a liquidity pool as if they're a neo bank is terrifying. All these things
are really scary, but we identify through the brand promise.
And that's part of why we're trusted to educate celebrities. And celebrities hold multiple hats,
right? They have this whole commerce behind them. They're also usually investors themselves.
They really need to understand what it is. And they don't always understand liquidity pools
or how these things work.
I'd love if you could tell the audience a little bit about what a household name celebrity,
someone who's performed on Super Bowl stages, what do they need to know about Maeve?
How could these tools benefit them?
Well, for any high net worth, which a lot of celebrities usually are,
if they are moving money across borders,
then Maeve can definitely do it faster and for less cost
than any of their traditional banking methods.
Yeah, I think...
Maybe you need to take this offline a little bit so good
to be in and share get you under NDA as as we are so she can share some of the
exciting names she has in mind and yeah you know bring you in as a personal educator, which would be,
which would be outstanding. Christina,
thank you for asking that question.
It just gives a little pep in the step, right?
That to the people who are doing things the right way,
maybe they'll be noticed by somebody who can help amplify those efforts for sure for sure um
we'll we'll definitely reach out on that one um but yeah it's uh it's not something we're scared
of whatsoever we're here we're doing things the right way we know what's coming we know the
business that we have in front of us.
And again, it's back to the same ethos.
Maeve is a real business with a real revenue model.
Maeve is not here to extract from its users,
as a lot of projects are.
We're focused on actually making real profit from real revenue, from
real business operations. So yeah, we continue to do things the right way. And as we continue
to grow, the only benefits will be for our holders and believers. And just on that note as well, you know, from the start of this journey, we haven't brought in any VCs, any large investors, anything like that, because the entire project has been about democratizing access to these secure investment vehicles.
We share that.
Thank you for standing We share that. Thank you for standing
up to that.
Let's
all play the long game.
I think that we're
with you. We're standing right next
to you there.
If you're not playing the long game,
it'll be a very short
game come the time.
Eventually,
yeah.
Everybody says it takes a long time, and I feel that.
But it is the long
game.
Let's see. I have some
questions here.
This is a
great one, because everybody's familiar with, it hurts me to say this, it's not a
trilemma everybody, it's a triangle. They put three different points on a piece of paper
and labeled the vertices and drew a triangle. There's nothing
mathy about it. But there is always interest in, you know, security. I know you're committed to
decentralization because you've brought in great intermediary partners. But what about scale?
in great intermediary partners.
But what about scale?
Certainly, I'm really sorry.
I don't know if it's just me,
but you broke up quite a bit there.
Oh, no.
Can you hear me?
Does that work?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I talked too long and I probably
lost anyone who heard me anyway um how are you planning to use your infrastructure to scale
like like from a blockchain standpoint because I know you I know you've taken care of security. Yeah.
Yeah.
So from a blockchain standpoint,
what we're doing is very much so solving a pain point where we're not, let's say,
continuously reinventing every aspect of what we're doing.
So what we've focused on for the last number of years
is making a product that can be very
easily integrated the current systems and very easily expanded across different regions and
across different blockchains so in terms of scalability our processes are applicable in the
markets that we have in any market in the world and we are able to implement those across
any blockchain now in terms of actually scaling as we move into what i would say is more of the
consumer side of things then we do plan on expanding the different chains, the lower costs, increased transaction efficiency and things like that.
But at the moment, our clientele, our client base there and the transaction volumes that we are going to be going through,
ETH is okay for that, but not for the expansion into those smaller micropayments
and a higher volume of payments.
So, yeah.
Yeah, great answer.
Do what you do really well and let the best infrastructure rise to support what it is that you do.
Christine, I don't know if you were listening.
Nick was talking about verifiability and proof,
proof, compliance, proof of compliance, verifiability of payments.
This is our language, on the data on the data
side absolutely and it's really exciting you knowing what mica standards are you speaking
about compliance the way that you do i can already tell that you have fluency and competency in that
if we assume which is a huge assumption but let's assume that you have fluency and competency in that. If we assume, which is a huge assumption,
but let's assume that you're telling the truth and that all of this is
possible.
Oh, oh, hey, Maeve is a partner.
Perfect.
It's very real.
I have a very deep conversation.
About who to work and who not to.
You've hit the nail on the head there
um it's it's not something that you can take for granted in the space whatsoever
um so yeah no no offense taken it's very exciting and especially to hear that you're partnered
with stephanie and all the things that she and I speak about, this would mean that for the next decade, the cross-border payments solution would be solved.
Any kind of tax issues in particular countries that set up new regulations, you could solve from
a geolocation standpoint. You also have the infrastructure around all of the liquidity
monitoring and who actually
owns those pools of liquidity and how they are used. This is the transparency layer that the
U.S. consumers and Fortune 500 are terrified about. They don't know how to read the signals
that you are reading. So that's very exciting that, I mean, Stephanie, I'm thinking cross-border
payment solution on the back end. So I'm really really excited right now but if you'd like to talk about Maeve
and how your your vision for the next decade and what you think will be normal
a year or two from now yeah for sure you know Maeve's vision for the next decade
decade is to become the the Amazon of investments of uh or sorry should i say the the go-to
marketplace for investments um and all capital needs so we'll be able to deploy capital faster
more efficiently and with better terms than anyone else globally and we'll be able to offer our users and investors better returns
and with better efficiency than anywhere else and that's from having a very
focused view on the investments that we are targeting and but you know you compare the
numbers to you compare the numbers to what
let's say your normal retail participant is getting at any fund bank or other investment firm
it's just so far beyond belief um compared to the opportunities that you garner whenever you have
first access or early access to large tickets so very very excited to get that side of
things um up and going with mainnet but with regards to payments we see no reason why mave
cannot be the replacement of legacy rails to be integrated directly with legacy providers and
again i'm going back to it's all about applying the the current tech to
the current markets we're making use of 80 plus tier one counterparties and we're not
trying to come in and you know say that we need to have and we need to do everything
ourselves we are very aware that there are other operators
and other people in the market who are specialists
at what they do.
And what we're focused on is taking all of that together
and making a product that is easily applied
to the real world
and has all of the necessary requirements
such as traceability, liquidity access,
sorry, and liquidity visibility.
So yeah, the next 10 years,
Maeve is 100% going to be a massive player
in the global payment space.
That is so exciting.
You know, I'm a big fan of vetting.
I have to ask, how do you vet what investments are allowed to come into the platform and be accessible by your network?
that we haven't released yet,
but that is within the boundaries of our company bylaws
and investment committee.
So, you know, you want to get right into it.
There will be a number of internal and external board members
that will have to sign off amongst other processes.
Sorry, just had a cough there.
But yeah, we have an extremely stringent vetting process.
Also, I would like to point out that any opportunity,
even if it passes our internal vetting,
we're never going to invest in an opportunity
where we're the sole risk bearer.
So you have not
only our own internal and external verification, but you then also have multiple other parties,
internal and external verification. And in a lot of cases, those other parties are banks banks or senior debt lenders. So very experienced parties beyond our own in-house experience.
Understood.
One more question, if I may.
I know Stephanie's getting close to wrapping up the space.
In terms of banking structure, Continuum has received multiple confirmations that there's going to be this new hub in Dallas, Texas, and that Dallas, Texas is going to become the new Manhattan.
That's where the data center structure is going through the Midwest.
I know you're not in the U.S., but you're looking at how these banking paradigms are shifting.
How do you see interacting if that's true?
Like where is Maeve in that entire ecosystem
as these things start to actually be consolidated?
That's a question that I don't have an answer specifically
with regard to the Dallas and that becoming the
new hub. Maeve as it stands already benefits from the multiple partners that I've mentioned globally.
A sixth view location, it would be illegitimate for me to give you a proper comment on that because it's not something
that I've even explored. But it is interesting because we have a lot of ties in Dallas, Texas,
and a number of different opportunities there already. So yeah, that's something I would definitely like to explore with you off off this basis yeah
awesome what about global international banking structures relationships with countries
how we can take this offline for sure but I'm curious how I can help there
yeah I mean we're we're always open to exploring these things. And what I would say is that
we're already in a position that we can legitimately transact in pretty much every region in the
world that's not a restricted region. So I'll not get into the restricted regions just in case we've got any listeners.
I'm not going to offend anyone.
But yeah, we work with some of the top providers that you yourself, Christine, probably have heard of.
But for the people listening, we work with some of the top global providers that you probably haven't heard of but for the people listening we work with some of the top global providers that
you probably haven't heard of who are actually the service providers to some of the the main
household names that you probably have heard of so I think it goes back to if if you have a partner
or you you know you have access to someone who you know can do a job better than you can do,
then for sure make use of that. I think it's also brilliant that you've
organized it in a way where it's their compliance that enforces it. They're kind of the sign-off
party. We looked at the same thing with registered investment advisors as they're going to need to
provide the sign off.
And a lot of folks might not know in investment just how much oversight is in some of these market sectors.
Regulation is super important.
Having the credibility of the person that signed off on the deal is super important.
So I think it's really smart that you've partnered with these folks and they're
protecting their reputation by protecting your reputation. It's very smart. I love that too.
Yeah, that is that I'm back, you know, you two were great and I could exit and leave you two to
talk and it was awesome. Yeah, we've done the same thing with our data infrastructure that since Geek is agnostic in data, it's really whoever is originating it and using it. meeting of the minds happening out loud in spaces to sort of help people listening understand
what uh you know building to last means it means that
involving other people who are good at other things right
yeah 100 percent um and you know the three of speaking here, I think we're all in a pretty unique position.
I don't obviously know you, Stephanie, or Christine very well, but from our conversations there, you know, you can tell that we've all got relative experience in both markets in both web 3 and web 2 and it it
actually is quite a unique space to be in because a lot of people in web 3 have only been ever
focused and grown and learned in web 3 and in web 2 you know people think that that the market's
huge at the moment in Web3,
but it's still microscopic compared to the traditional markets.
So there's just a big, vast world out there
who just don't know anything about everything that we talk about.
So it's a very unique and a very good position to be in
to be able to try and bridge that gap.
I know.
Amen.
Yeah, I knew Christina would want to come off mic.
Tell everybody again where we can find you.
And so excited to support you.
Verifiable, accessible, blockchain rails rails it's fabulous for sure stephanie it's been great um
so yeah guys if you want to check us out we're on maiv.io that's m-a-i-v.io we've got a pretty
good overview there of everything um feel free to join our socials. You can jump on the telegram. The testnet is currently live
for the consumer-facing side.
And yeah, we've got a lot of
exciting things coming up, and
I'm looking forward to exploring
how we can best
work together with Geek
and really maximize
our impact.
That's wonderful. Thanks, everybody,
for coming, and, for coming.
And thanks for listening.
Drop your comments.
Drop your questions.
Go try that testnet.
There's nothing like feedback.
And thanks so much, you two, for speaking today.
Fantastic.
Great to chat, Stephanie.
Nice to meet you, Christine. Thanks, guys.
