Bro, you beat me to my own space. But what this do is unbelievably punctual. The indigenous service. How you doing? I'm in. Hey man, doing good. Doing good.
To love the hair brother is a fantastic Monday night 11 p.m. East we made it may not happen due to how to headache early in the day. So dude, it's been a long day man. It's been a long day. I can't believe it's still today to be honest
But it is what it is. I'll be wrapping up the night on a good note. It's going to be fantastic conversation. Do DGN service is everything going all right for you today? You know, you're making everything happen or you know, anything cool happen or what? Oh, yeah, man. Bunch of stuff happening in the degenerates.
We got a tight team and everyone's doing their own thing and bringing stuff. So even after this space is probably going to pull a pretty big night because the Dejan Dow is going to be merging back into the DAA Discord.
Oh, oh dude, that's crazy dude. Man, you guys have been through the discord for the longest time ever since I got into so long. When did you guys split? I mean, I thought you guys were just one server for a long time, but I mean, did you split it the beginning or you know, what does that look like? Yeah, yeah, so we split it at the beginning.
because I think the community wanted to have a raffle and then back then, DAA actually had really, really strict lawyers on staff. And so the lawyers were like, no, you can't do raffles. That's against, you're not set up as a
Corporation to do raffles. That's that's not a thing. It's illegal. We can't do that right and so since we had already started raffle We say hey, how about we just open up another discord and they it could be like the community discord where we can you know gamble and raffle and do whatever we want right and so DAA was like yeah go for it that way, you know, we're not liable and you can
guys get to do the saucy or more dejan things without us getting into trouble. Turns out, yeah, their lawyers were super strict and nowadays it's, I mean, it's discord, it's just the chat room, right? So everyone's coming back together and it's
Especially with the new holders and everyone coming in, we want there to be a cohesive space for everyone to hang out. So you're not jumping back and forth between two discords. Yeah, dude, I absolutely understand that. Whatever you have two different discords, you have two separate close communities and then you fractionalize your holders.
And it's just a whole ordeal. I mean, that's the last thing we want to do. What we're trying to promote here in Web 3 is, you know, interconnectedness. Writing, getting to know the homies through the group chats, you know, should like that. So I totally get the vibe, man, dude, in Dejan service, I'm glad to have you. You've done some super awesome, super fantastic stuff in this space#
You're just making some cool shit happen for sure my brother, but dude I mean if you're good to go I'm ready to just hop straight into interview my man Yeah, man, let's do it Dude, I'm so fucking lovely guys. Thank you for being here. This is making time. I sure was did by me HV socrates on the syndicate network where
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To get some more people in here to learn more about our guest for today Dgen service and I will say that this is actually believe it or not making time episode 69 Where he's I think some fantastic timing to have someone like Dgen service on the show the funny number has you know a fun a super
awesome funny guy on the space. So definitely glad to have you. And one thing I will say before we start to show is the agent service this is making time for you. So any stories, tangents, you know, anything you kind of want to go on or talk about, do definitely don't apologize, talk as long as you want. We're here for you, man. But
Without further ado, my first question for you, Dejan services. What got you into web three? Oh, OK. Let's see. Gotta go back to the beginning. I think it was like early 2017. And I was working. What was it?
I was working a data entry job and honestly, I just got through my work a lot faster than most. I had a lot of time to Google. Me, I have this personal mantra, I guess you would say.
Okay. Whatever anyone asks me, like, hey, you know, what do you think of school? I always go, bro, I learned 98% of the things that I know how to do and that are useful to me on Google. You know, Google is my school, you know, like if I need to find out how to do something, Google, she's my love.
and she'll tell me what to do. But yeah, man, I got into it early 2017. I literally was just googling other ways to make money. And I got into it funny enough through buying a little bit of Bitcoin, a little bit of Ethereum, and then I actually got
super into I used to like build computers. Well, I still do for fun. And I started collecting GPUs and started saving money to get GPUs. And then I started like stalking like the Bitcoin talk, you know, forum and like, you know, looking at new coins that were coming out, right? Like, oh, what's this
Bitcoin thing, you know, like, oh, what's this? Yeah, yeah, right? Bitcoin. No, my God. But anyways, like, oh, yeah, what's this thing? Okay, cool. How do I do that? Okay, what program do I need to install? Okay, how do I need to code it? Okay, great. Let's do that. And so I was playing around in that round for a long time. And then#
I don't know, it kind of, it got boring because you're not talking to people, and whenever you talk to people, you're only like talking about, oh, yo, like, what's the next coin that's gonna pump, right? You're not really talking about like your life or like making a bunch of friends, right? So anyways, fast forward.
Let's see fast forward. I was working on another job and I actually got into like Ethereum and FTs at first. I remember seeing and kind of like stumbling upon like the Mutant8YAH club.
mint. And I remember looking at it and then I remember seeing like the gaspies and then I remember being like, nah, screw this. Like I'm not going to do this. Yeah. And then from there, I was on Ethereum for a little bit and then somehow I ended up on Salona in
might have been on Twitter, it might have been through Twitter, it might have been because I was googling like what other blockchains have NFTs. But you know, somehow I made it on Salana and the first thing that I bought when I landed on Salana was freaking Salana punks, which is hilarious, right? You know, I kind of thought, okay, well, you know, this is
This is the first thing that I see here. It's getting volume. It's doing stuff. I started playing around with that. And then the whole thing that really kicked it off for me was the DGNA Academy Mint. Now is August 14th and 2021.
Yeah, and man I for some reason in August 15th is my birthday actually right for some reason I was Somehow I found my way onto this discord and I see all these people talking about these apes and I look at them and I'm like holy shit these things look like they could be in like
a Netflix episode, you know? Like these things look like, you know, someone from Pixar made them, right? Like these things look fucking legit. Like, and then I look at everything else that's on the blockchain and I'm like, okay, nothing really compares to this, you know? Like immediately
I was drawn to it because I've always been like a storyteller. I consider myself a storyteller. I was super into acting and performing and I was like inquires and stuff. Basically, I love telling stories. That's my thing. Wherever the stage
maybe to do that, I tell stories. Anyways, continuing on, I got really into the vibe of Dejanate Academy because the word, and this sounds a little lame and nerdy, but like it was the word degenerate for me, right? And the fact that it, you know, degenerate means to like,
to go against the grain, right? And all my life, one thing that I have always felt is that I was quietly going against the grain, right? In my own personal life and in the way that I viewed the world. And so I really, that really resonated with me. I minted a few apes and I
minted one that had like a fast food looking uniform on it. And I thought that was the funniest thing ever. I thought it was the funniest thing ever because I saw like sales of other like board API clubs and fast food uniforms right and like in gold and they're selling for like millions right and I'm thinking
myself how fucking funny and I don't know if it's ironic or satirical I don't know which one but how funny is it that the one with the fast food workers uniform the people who are like you know struggling for money like you know that job is not easy and you don't get paid
that much. And it's that picture, a representation of that that gets sold for millions. And I just thought, oh my god, fucking humans. And so continuing on, I got super into the whole fast food meme. And being a storyteller
and just like one day I was sitting down, I got super lit and I was like holy shit, wouldn't it be so funny if I made a little website and I made a little restaurant where all these fast food workers worked, right? Because the name McDegens actually wasn't around until like weekend
and we made it, McDegents, funny enough, when I first made the Twitter, it wasn't even called McDegents, it was called like, who was it? It was called the McApe Club or something like that, right? The McApes, right? And I threw together some random like video, you know, on Adobe Premiere Pro, you know, I
They cut in some audio from from Planet of the Apes, you know, put some text and I go, yeah, welcome to the DJ and McApe Club, right? Started a discord and started this whole thing and all of a sudden all my time was kind of like sucked up into almost living this like alternate lifestyle
when I got home from work as this like Dejan ape who is working at a fast food restaurant hanging out with his buddies in a discord who also work at that fast food restaurant right and it's funny because it was like this thing where people got a chance to like really come together
in the weirdest way. It's almost like role play, right? Because you get to put on this new identity and make friends with people. But yeah, man, I got into the Dejan Academy and then the rest was history. I stayed there. I helped
start the DJ and Dow and manage that. I started as a community member, but eventually the team saw everything that I was doing and my ideas and stuff, and they liked the way that I think. I just kept getting closer and closer to them, and then I ended up on the team.
Dude, I have so fucking literally did not love your story man. I think I mean it started with you dabbling and finding other ways to make money as we all do and We find our way into crypto one way or another and for you It's dabbling on those forums with the GPUs and things like that and then
More or less, you know, with time you ended up finding your way to community, right? That community really brought you in. It was almost magnetizing to you. And since then you've been leveraging your personality and your love for people and, you know, these stories to become degenerates.
And you know create the make de-gents and be involved with degenerate in the way that you are right and one thing you mentioned that I kind of want to bring this to is you mentioned how you know when you were growing up and you know as you're kind of getting to where you are today that you always thought you were
And you mentioned you were always involved in things that were very storytelling oriented, right? Acting, performing, you know, choir, stuff like that. But I'm interested in knowing Dejan's service. You know, taking it back, how were you different from everyone else when you were growing up?
Oh damn, okay, okay. I feel like, I don't know, I don't know if this is like a common thing, it must be, but I don't know
Do you guys remember the age where you woke up inside your own head? I feel like maybe I must have been
I don't know man must have been like six or seven years old where all of a sudden like I woke up in my own head and I was like holy shit. Everyone is in their own hand. Everyone is living their own life. Everyone is having their own thoughts right now. That person across the street.
They're thinking about things and they don't know who I am and they're living a whole another life and maybe they'll never run across me and then all of a sudden I was just like holy shit. There's like infinite perspectives just walking around and living and breathing around me and all of a sudden like yeah, I guess that was like my moment where like I was
up in the world. And the one thing that I always, always, always kind of thought to myself as a kid is like, why is everyone bullshitting each other? Like, why is everyone like, like, I don't know, I could just tell that people were pretending to like be a certain way or, you know,
I don't know, or behave in certain ways. And the number one thing that always upset me about everything was school. I don't know why. I don't know if it was like an authority thing, but it was just a sense that like, like I didn't have a choice, right?
And yeah, man, I always had this like, I don't know, in like elementary school, I would be that kid that was in the principal's office all the time. Like I remember like literally being like that class clown and like literally like roasting the
teachers and like turning my classroom into a fucking like roast show like on Comedy Central or something and then like getting in so much trouble because I'm just literally standing up and roasting these teachers in front of my in front of my school friends right and they're all going crazy and I'm just like okay cool so this is cool this is a fun thing to do
But then I think I kind of took that energy, right? That energy and that need to like, I don't know, like be in the moment with people, right? And I kind of took that energy and I think it was, it was 8th grade when
I first got put into a musical and I didn't really know what I was doing. I was kind of stumbling my way through it. It was just like an extracurricular thing that was suggested so that I could get rid of some energy. I ended up really liking it. I had always
love the music and so getting up on stage and you know saying these lines and you know making it funny or you know whatever the role needed but it took that energy that I always needed to get out and it put it into a place where I wasn't getting sent to
you know, the principal's office every day, right? And from there, when I hopped into high school, I actually, what did I do? I think the first semester I did cross-country, and then after that I got into, um,
I had a theater class that was like that extra class that you took, the extracurricular class or whatever. I got super into it and I think one day they were having auditions for a musical. I had done one in eighth grade but it was like
like a small one, you know, and like no big deal. But this is like, you know, now there's like a full auditorium. There's like, you know, hundreds of seats like, it's a big thing. And so I go to my teacher and I'm like, Hey, I'm interested, you know, signing up for this thing. And she was like, Okay, here, you know, she took me to like the choir.#
director and she was like, "Here, you work with him, and then he'll get you ready for the audition." I was like, "Okay, cool, cool, cool." I had never really had a music instructor or anything at that point. That dude basically helped me discover that I could sing. It was funny because there was this experience
where he suggested a song from a musical called "Your Intent." And he had me learn it, and funny enough, like the choir room is like right next to the theater room. And so the theater teacher apparently heard it. And I remember this moment where she like stops like me singing.
And she looks over at the choir teacher and says, "Hey, do we have that musical? Do we have the resources for that one? Could we do that one?" And he was like, "Yeah, yeah, we could do that one." And she was like, "Hmm, okay." And then I remember my choir teacher being like, "Okay, great, you're going to do this song."
I'm like, "Okay, cool. I'm feeling better. I'm feeling prepared about this thing." I go to lunch and all of the senior, the junior and senior, theater people come up to me and accost me at lunch. They're like, "Yo, I heard you're going to be the new lead in the play." I was like, "What? We haven't even done audition."
and they were like, "No, no, no, bro, I heard that she heard you singing that urine town song and now we're not going to do the musical that we were going to do and we're going to do urine town because she heard you sing that song." And I was like, "What? That's crazy. I don't, you know, obviously those are the rumors
of like the higher ups in the theater department at that time. But anyways, yeah, I went through with my audition and yeah, I ended up getting the lead for that play and it kind of, for that musical and it like kind of shot me into that world. I started doing plays like Shakespeare plays and stuff like that and more music
I got a chance to train with this opera singer, which hilarious story. I go to this opera singer's house for the first time. She's up in the hills of this place and she opens the door. She takes one look at me and goes
off a tenor and I'm looking at this lady like how the hell like what do you mean? Ah tenor how are you how are you just going to look at me and like tell me without even hearing me speak or sing that I'm a tenor and then she explained to me she was like yeah you got that barrel chest like I
can see it like boom. And it was awesome. Got the train with her for a little while. And when I went to college, you know, I kept at it. I kept doing plays and kept doing choir. In college, actually got the chance to go to regalatvia. I think it was 2014. Yeah. In college.
College in 2014 we went to regalavia for the world choir games which if you didn't know is like the Olympics of choir singing and yeah like all the nations around the world come to these like choir games every four years and we took home like two gold medals
for the US in the world choir games that year it was amazing. But yeah, that's kind of how I like, you know, got into like that whole like creative like side of me, you know, performing, acting and storytelling. Yeah, and that's I'm kind of blown away by your story on
I feel like you kind of had this super awesome start to finish and it it seems very fulfilling right throughout the whole experience right you started as someone who maybe had a little bit of interest and then you took step after step after step after step and then you ended up you know winning this international gold medal or you know
at this event you were at recently. But I am interested in knowing. So singing and acting seem to be a really core part of who you were going up. Do you still sing or act and if not, why? Yeah, I feel like after college,
It's easy to do things and get involved into things when the opportunities are right in front of your face all the time. But when you get further from the opportunities, you have to continuously put in that effort to make sure you're putting your face up to those opportunities. And I think
When I got out of college, it was like, you know, when you get out of college, it's like this, I don't know, it's this weird time where you kind of have to, I don't know, you have to, you have to deal with that cognitive dissonance of being like, holy shit, this thing that I've been in for my entire life, this system of school is finally over.
Now what now what do I do right you know now I don't have someone telling me hey you have to go to this class by this time or hey you have to get this grade and hey you have to do this and hey you have to do that now I can do what I want fuck what do I want and so um yeah man I
Funny enough when I was going to school I come from I come from an immigrant family and Growing up I had this sense that I had a duty and a responsibility to have a professional job It was a pressure that was put on me by my family and you know, it's an understandable thing. You know no ill will
to my family, they're amazing. But I had that in my head as I was in college and I was coming out of college and going through it. I actually funny enough, as much as I talk about singing and acting and how much I did it, how much fun I had doing and how much opportunities I had to be in that world, I
actually never like majored in anything like that. I actually went into college thinking that I was going to be a doctor funny enough. I had done some like my dad's a doctor. He was a doctor when we came from Peru. And so it was just kind of like that thing, you know, like, oh,
my dad does it. Okay, you know, I got to hear a lot about it growing up and you know, maybe I want to do that. That's that professional job that I need to have, you know. And I kind of had that in my head. I think after the first semester of chemistry, I was like, okay, fuck that. And after that, I was like,
shoot. Man, I really don't want to do this. I don't think I'm going to be that person, that type of person to be able to do this. Sure. I love the high stakes. You know, I love that high pressure, right? For a moment, I thought, okay, great. I'll be an ER doctor because that's that high pressure environment that like gets me like addicted, you know, like I love
love that high pressure environment. It's almost the same as standing on stage in front of hundreds of people and all of them staring at you. What are you going to do next, bro? But yeah, I thought I was going to be a doctor and then I changed my mind and I said, "Okay, you know what? How close can I get
to this storytelling side of me, this acting side of me, how close can I get to that while still having a major that sounds professional. And that's how I got into psychology. And I actually majored in, yeah, I majored in, I have a Bachelor of Science in Psychology with the concentration in
personality psychology. And yeah, man, funny enough, it was a blessing in disguise. It's funny how life works because me studying psychology while all the other actors were just studying like some old plays that some old white dudes wrote, like kind of gave me the edge on
on everyone, you know, like I was learning about like the human condition and you know why we act the way that we do and you know what really makes up our behavior and why we act the way that we act. And man, I got to implement that on stage as well and it was just honestly
honestly, you're blessing in disguise because I felt like it put me in a position where one of my theater directors when I, I think it was graduation day, we were all standing around talking and people were talking about, "Hey, you know, I'm going to go and get my MFA."
acting and I was like, oh yeah, that sounds cool, but I never, you know, majored in it. And then my theater director looked at me and goes, bro, you don't know. Like, you can go now. You're there. You can go now. And that was fucking awesome. I remember that.
But yeah, I totally forgot what the question was, but I think we got there somewhere in there if not leave me back. Honestly, I don't remember either, but I love your stories, man. And I came up with the question already because I think it's very apparent that you have a love for people, right? And you mentioned the human condition.
and really relishing in the fact that we're alive and we all think for ourselves and have these different perspectives and experiences and it's very apparent that that's extremely valuable to you. And I'm interested in knowing Dejan's service. What do you think is the most fascinating part of being human?
Oof, damn, you're coming with the good shit. I think the most fascinating part of being human. Oof.
I think it would have to be the fact that we're
I don't know, humans are these strange creatures where you know that something is bad for you.
But you'll do it anyways.
I don't know, like that example, what someone like touches the hot stove, right? Funny enough, there was a great YouTube video and actually a great research published about this. Humans prefer pain over boredom.
like with like with significant results, humans prefer pain over boredom. So they put these two, these people in a room, right? Literally an empty room with a chair and they
They leave a button on the table and they tell the people, "Yo, if you press this button, it will shock you." And they leave the people in the room for like an hour. You would be astounded.
the number of people that just pressed it at least once just to see right because they had literally nothing else to do so I feel like yeah I think that's one of the most interesting ones there's
countless. There's countless, but that's one of the most interesting ones. So when someone tells you, oh, bro, I'm so bored. Take them seriously. It's painful because they would rather, you know, hit a random red buzzer that shocks them than be that bored.
Yeah, man, and I think you mentioned that's definitely something interesting and I would agree with you that is probably one of the more fascinating things about us. Right, and I think it's really the idea of, you know, I guess maybe I'm taking a little bit further here, but you know, it's the idea of not settling for complacency.
The idea of not settling for you know, thanks to the same right and you know everyone says right one of the only constants I mean what is it like death and taxes are definitely constant but I would say another thing is changed right I mean you're always bound to go through some kind of change and shit like that but if you're just in the right
decisions and see where they take you and take risks and determine who you are and where you're meant to go. But I do want to bring this back just a little bit. You mentioned you come from an immigrant family, right? And for you to take the path of being a doctor and navigate your MF
and stuff like that, it was hard to really walk that line and find how you aligned with this future you want in the future that your parents want for you. But Dejan's service, I'm interested in knowing, what is your favorite part of your parents?
I think my favorite part is that they were always, they're always pretty honest with me, you know, letting me know things straight up. They
It was always refreshing to know that they wouldn't hold back just because that was a child. And honestly, I think it's one of the reasons why I kind of woke up inside of myself so early because, you know,
It's the strange thing where I don't know. I don't know. It's as weird as it sounds to say, I always use examples to explain what I'm trying to express, but as weird as it sounds to say, it's like
If you don't put the food like a few feet in front of the baby, it's not going to learn to crawl. You know, if you don't let them like
Discover and trip and like you know kind of figure their own way then you know they're just it's gonna take them a lot longer to figure it out
So I'd say that's like, you know, that's one thing I definitely appreciated about them. Like I was never told that like Santa was real. They told me, ah, yes, you know, Santa Claus, yes, you know, widely believed to be
because of certain stories that go back to this time and people kind of made it like this societal thing that we all believe in now and that's why people talk about Santa and Christmas and everything. And I was like, "Okay, cool, cool, cool."
Yeah, and I think that honesty is something that we all not only should have, but really just deserve, right? And have that thing where it's like, this is how shit really works. This is how you should really act, you know, and then get people incentives to, you know, make that happen, right? And I think one thing that's really critical about
life for anyone to understand really is any personal growth, any professional growth, anything along those lines that requires failure. Like you're meant to fall, you're meant to trip, you're meant to bang your head, you know, fuck some shit up, right, or fuck around and find out more or less, right? That's just what it's about to be human.
and become better or become a folder, holder version of you and where you meant to go and what you meant to do. But dejan service, when it comes to failure and fucking shit up as we all have, I'm interested in knowing what do you think has been your greatest mistake so far?
Okay, damn you got good questions, bro. Good shit. Okay Greatest failure so far. Honestly, I think my greatest failure is just
not believing in myself and what I am capable of because you know people tell me like that I have a certain ability for storytelling and for getting people's attention and I usually would be like that person who you know
If you're at a party, you know, I don't know, there's like a group of three or four people listening to a story that I'm telling because I'm like, 'cause I'm like, "Tipsy," and I started telling stories. You know, like, or started like, I don't know, just, you know, being myself. And yeah, I think,
Shoot. I had a brain far. What was the question again? What has been your greatest mistake? So yeah, not believing in myself because you know, I think there were a few times where you know growing up everyone has insecurities about
you know, certain things in their life. And I was kind of like insecure of like who I was as a person, right? Because early on, you know, I had these, I had this drive for copying.
right copying whether it be sounds or people's mannerisms or you know people's facial expressions like I don't know almost like every person that I ran into gave me more data to you know
collect about how people could be. And it kind of gave me, I don't know, almost more and more characters that I could play, right, or that I could experience life through. It reminds me of the fact that
I used to be really, really shy. And then I played Nick Bottom in mid-Summer Night's Dream, a character who was so bombastically confident, so bombastically confident that it was to his detriment. And that's what made him such a hilarious character.
And man, I'm telling you, when you practice feelings, certain things and expressing certain emotions and being in a certain mental state, when you practice that, you can go back to it whenever you want. After I mastered that role, I literally felt like I could easily
easily go back into like that grab bag of how I could possibly act or how I could possibly feel. And I was easier to access confidence after that. Right. And so, but the biggest, I guess, mistake was I never really put my genuine,
never really put much value on my genuine self. I was just collecting a bunch of selves. I was like, "Alright, which one does everyone like the most?" I remember there was times where, "Oh, I know how to explain this." When I first started singing, "Inquire,"
Funny enough, I found that way more difficult than acting because in acting, you're not playing yourself. Dejan services is on the stage. It's another character. So if a character is saying something or doing something, that's not me doing it. That's my character doing it.
I don't feel like I'm embarrassing myself when I play a doofus character because I'm not me at that moment. I'm that character. But when you sing and choir, I remember the first time I had a solo in choir, I was shitting myself, bro. I was sweating and sweating because
when you're singing as yourself, you're putting yourself in a really vulnerable place because it's you, right? You're presenting you. You can't put a character on your own voice, right? In that situation. And so that was
a really difficult thing for me. And so it was kind of this thing where like I didn't really think that like a bunch of people would want that from me, right? I remember like, you know, maybe posting a YouTube cover and then deleting it two hours later. You know, it's like that confidence thing.
And it's funny because nowadays, and the NFT journey has kind of led me to like put on this identity that wasn't me and like find a community of people and it kind of slowly made me realize that, you know, I can just put my
self out there. It's not a big deal. The person who I am genuinely without all the characters that helped me live my life is interesting, is cool, and people enjoy it. It helped me have that confidence.
And also the fact that nowadays I remember there was a trend on TikTok where it was like a trend to sing badly into your TikTok and then have people in the comments tell you how good you are, but like everyone knew that you were terrible. And I saw that trend and I thought to myself,
Come on man, if these guys are getting like 600k views on a video of them singing terribly as a joke I Think I could put some of my experience into a TikTok video and get a few views here and there, you know like I think it's time, you know like then if T journey has helped me realize like you know
know, people just, I don't know, it's, it's just helped me realize that, that I can do that stuff, you know? And so, yeah, it's kind of like been a really full circle journey and it's why like the NFT space has such a, such a, I don't know, such a warm place in my heart.
Absolutely dude and I do have a follow up for you which is DGEN service. You know what is I do sorry I started on the wrong foot here, you know DGEN service. What do you love the most about yourself?
I think it's my ability to always find the positive and something, to always find the upside, you know? And
I have this like irrational fear of not being able to adapt, you know? Like I always saw
like a parent that couldn't understand why their kid was playing video games. And I always thought to myself, man, I never want to have a kid look at me and be like, man, you don't know what the fuck's going on.
You know like the way that we look at like I don't know the way that we kind of look at boomers and think to ourselves like you know, oh man They really don't know what the fuck's going on right like I don't know man I'm kind of scared you know like if I'm older and the people younger than me look at me and
going, yeah, you don't know what the fuck's going on. That scares me, right? And so funny enough, that irrational fear has led me to be like a very adaptable person, right? Like you changed the road on me, like I'll drift through those turns, baby.
Dude, absolutely, I'm scared. The day I become a decrepit boomer, bro, I'm scared for that day as well, man. They're gonna be doing, I can't even imagine with the, with the zoomers of that era, we'll be doing, man. Like, and as you mentioned, right, we got to stay adaptable.
And be a little more optimistic when it comes to yourself and be able to learn what's happening here and understand what's going on and be in tune with everyone else. Right. Because at the end of the day, as you mentioned, we have so many different perspectives.
lives. We all have this dude or narrator that lives in these brains. It's up to us to really understand that and be mindful of that and enjoy the moment while it's here and just see where all of this takes us. But Dejan's service is
We're coming pretty close to time here, but it's been an absolute blast. I can't believe it's been 42 minutes already But dude man, I've really enjoyed our conversation and my last question for you Dejan service would be do you believe in destiny?
Destiny like you were always destined to be or to find your way to something. Whatever it means to you.
I don't know if I would say destiny in terms of like, like no matter what happens, I'm going to end up in, you know, in that place that I need to be, but I would say that
the place where you need to be is always pulling you towards it. And I think it's up to you to take a breath and feel where like that wind is taking you. And just be honest with yourself, you know, one thing
as we are not depressing, as weird as it sounds as they, you know, you're born alone and you die alone. So, you know, live your life and feel where you're being pulled and put the effort to go
to go towards where you feel that you're pulled, right? But I wouldn't say I fully agree to the point where you'll always get there. It's like it's always pulling you towards it, but you gotta put that effort to follow it.
Yeah, and honestly like I've asked that question a handful of times or actually a lot of full of times in this space and I think the way you phrase that is probably the closest to what I believe in right where it's not predetermined, you know, no matter it's not set up where no matter what you do
you will end up there, but it's always pulling you in that direction. It's almost a little bit magnetic. I think that's really for me, that's also what I subscribe to. One thing I'll give to Dijon's service, you are definitely talented with words. Definitely. I think you're a fantastic speaker.
and why they're still here. In episode 69 of Making Time featured our friend Dejan Service. We learned more about what he's got going on, how he grew up and some of the mistakes and a little bit more about a journey he made along the way. I messed up my words there.
Anyways, but guys this has been a fantastic show, right? I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation and if you enjoy conversations like these I do host this show daily at 11 p.m. EST and tomorrow I will be interviewing my good friend Jett or so if you're interested in attending that space I
I'd love to see some familiar faces in the audience to support more creators on Salana. And I have actually pinned tomorrow's space up top on the jumbo tron. But today's space, episode 69 was for Dijon's service. And before we go ahead and end this space here, do you have any kind of last closing thoughts or reflections of our conversation?
No, man, it's been a great conversation. If I were to say anything, I would just say, yeah, I think for everyone out there, go towards whatever is pulling you towards it and believing yourself because it's important
So you gotta find how you align and see where things take you. But definitely guys, thank you for being here once again. This is making time. The show is said by me, HV song critis on the syndicate network where we learn more about
the people of Solana and why they're still here. We had an absolutely fantastic discussion with Dejan Service today guys and if you enjoyed the conversation I'd absolutely love to see you guys tomorrow at 11pm EST where I will be interviewing my good friend Jet.
of Neckosoma. But guys, DGEN service, once again, thank you for coming today and everyone else in the audience. Thank you for tuning in and making time for DGEN service. Guys, I hope you all have a fantastic rest of your night and I'll catch you later. Bye-bye.