Hello and welcome everybody to Making Time who's show hosted by me. Oh, do not always forget to turn down my blue stacks. I'm trying to stand there. We go. Yeah, thank you for being here. This is Making Time. I'll show
I'm excited to see how it works.
We got some cool stuff happening. We got some new partnerships in the pipeline with some really, really exciting people. I think our reach will be a lot bigger than it is today. A lot sooner than we really anticipated. So it's going to be really exciting to see with that team.
takes us and is always a pleasure to work with friends. And I can be more excited for the future here. But we have these cool partnerships lined up. We're growing readily and steadily. Things are going up as we know with Syndicate.
Things are up only. I mean, at least the current moment. So, I will see if that changes anytime soon. Hopefully not. Hopefully not. Things continue to go as planned. But yeah, we're steady growing. We're lining up calls. We're lining up meetings. We're lining up calls.
partnerships, we're growing, we're building out our team. Things are looking pretty well, things are looking pretty healthy, and I'm excited for the next month or so of Syndicate. But thank you guys for being here, and I'm looking forward to the start of the show in just a moment when Melty arrives. But thank you guys for being here.
Okay, this could might be breaking. I'm not sure it's all on me bringing you up. Let me send you an invite to speak. That might fix your situation here.
The Twitter space dishes might be exploding right now. So, not even let me pin something up. This is great. Good old Twitter spaces.
Hello, hello Mel, you can hear me.
Hi, I can hear you, but I can't see anything on my screen.
Okay, that's a little bit tragic. Do you want to try? Have you tried turning it off and turning it back on again? I don't think... Oh, I can see now.
We're back. Do we're so back. Love to hear it. I love that. So you want to give it a go or you want to try reconnecting or what are your thoughts? I mean, if you can hear me fine then we can give it a go.
I can hear you loud and clear. It's absolute pleasure to have you. How has your name been? I know you've done an Austin for the hacker house. I was there last year but I was able to make it this year but I will be there for consensus. But how are things going for you? I love that. I'll also be here for consensus. Thanks for going.
Things are pretty fun. I mean it's only my second day here at my first time in Austin and Hacker House has been super entertaining. I had a panel today and now I'm at one of the house parties at the cupcake guys are throwing.
Absolutely fantastic. Well, I don't want to keep you too long so I know you're at an in real life event and they don't happen too too often So I did plan on having this interview be a little bit shorter and then maybe we can have you sooner back on the show if that's okay with you We can do whatever you want we go for as long as you want I'm here for a
I'm just upstairs. Apparently the house is haunted so I might be a little bit freaked out since there's no one else upstairs. But let's see how we go. Absolutely no problem at all. Yeah, so let's run for about 20-25 minutes. How do you want to keep it short for you? And then we'll send
you on your way and you can enjoy your time in Austin for sure. But I do appreciate you coming here Melty in making time for this interview and letting us start a little bit more about you in your time here in Web 3. But if you're good to go I can go ahead and hop straight into my questions for you. Let's fucking go. Oh shit can I swear? Yeah yeah.
this is making time for you to do whatever you make the most sense. Absolutely. Okay, let's go. Absolutely. Well, this is making time. The show hosted by me, HV Socrates on the Syndicate Network where we learn more about the people of Web 3 and why they're still here. In today's episode,
episode is about Melty and Melty before we get this show on the road I will say a couple things. One, this is making time for you. So any rant, tangent story, anything along those lines that you want to go on, we are absolutely down to explore that. And my first question for you Melty would be what got you into Web 3?
Um, geez, welcome into Web3. Okay, this was back in, must have been 2015. This was the very beginning of the ICO kind of period. So I had a digital marketing agency with, um,
One of my co-founders, which is my current co-founder for Rooniverse, we work very, very well together. He started getting us clients that were crypto companies. I think that definitely was my first in to Web 3. We invested in a bunch of Bitcoin.
see, we have some Ethereum, I minted some axes when they first launched. So I think that was really like a hundred years ago. I took a break after the bubble. We did do a festival right before that bubble that was fully funded by crypto, which was super, super fun.
But then yeah, it took a break and then came back in when we saw the NFT upside for gaming, which is something that I've always wanted to do, always wanted to go into gaming. So it was a great time for me to get together with my current co-founders and start this new venture.
Yeah, and that's exciting right you said you started all the way back in 2015 which I was how old was I was Not very old a 14 I was 14 at that time so dang I can't imagine starting you know at least finding some exposure in one way or another
What the fuck? What? What? Are you like legal? Yeah, yeah, I'm going to I did my my birthday was a handful days ago, so yeah No dude, it's it's amazing
right? And I think your background in marketing really gave you this leg up, especially when it comes to NFTs, right? When things are so human-centric and people-centric and I'm interested to know, as someone who's involved with marketing, you generally have to be a people person. And have you always been a people person?
I think I'm going to clarify and say that even though I had a digital marketing agency, I never thought of myself as a marketing person. Like, yes, I do have some skills in marketing, but I was always on the creative direction side. You know, like I was all about, you know, building journeys, doing world building and just creating immersive experiences.
that is my specialty. But with that said, I do love having people skills. I have been very open about this, very vocal about it in Twitter also, that I have very, very strong people skills, but I happen to just be cursed with not liking people.
So that is something that I think a lot of people are surprised to find out about me, because they think that I'm very social. And actually, I'm just like, I want to fucking go home. I want to go home, and I want to play games. But it's always a pleasure talking to everybody to my own surprise every single time.
Yeah, it's always interesting to you explore those conversations even when you might be a little bit more introverted or more to yourself. And I'm curious to know why do you think you're that way?
I have no idea, but I worked for quite a several years as an emotional quotient fixer, which means that I work very, very, very deeply with people and a lot of issues that are to do with the nature of
people, you know, a lot to do with relationships, a lot to do with, you know, communications, the ego, you know, the ways that self, the self-esteem, you know, kind of affects everything that you do. So I have a very deep relationship with
the humanness that is around the industry of festivals and also cryptocurrency because you know those two industries have people that are quite parallel to each other. I think you know the same very high caliber high performing in
individuals. So I don't know, like I think I just naturally have that gift or I've trained myself to have it. I'm not sure I haven't really looked into it. But why I don't like people, I really don't know. I think I just don't think that I would like people, but then I end up
liking them. I like my friends, let's just say that. If you're my friend, we're cool, I like you, but apart from that, I'm just kind of like, I look unfriendly as well as I've been told, which is fine with me.
that's just what it is sometimes right? Whenever you're with the homies you're locked in right? I mean it feels like sometimes you might not run out of energy but when you're with these random people you're meeting for the first time and you're starting to build those relationships it you know it's a lot further from that and you mentioned that you have this background in
I can remember exactly what you called it, but let's just say emotional coaching, right? And helping people through those processes and understanding how they kind of fit into the bigger picture. And I'm interested to know, what do you think are the key skills you picked up when you were doing that kind of work?
Yeah, one of the main things that you have to do is not let it affect you. That is the first thing. You cannot let other people's issues, you know, whatever they may be, affect yourself.
because then you are unable to kind of move forward. The second thing is being very holistic about it, which is knowing that like being always always 100% aware that everybody
comes from different backgrounds, have had different experiences in their lives. This is something that we call like Sonder, like realizing that other people who have had their whole lives lived out before the moment that they've had this interaction with you. That's a really huge thing for you to always keep at the front of your mind so that you are not being very judgmental towards what
whatever actions or decisions that they take or whatever thoughts that they're having in their brains right now because they've trusted you to be able to tell you what exactly is going on. Sometimes they don't know where the issue stems from. They think that it stems from something else and for you to be aware
of their background and be kind of being considered of them all the time, let's you help them kind of get a better perspective of what's going on because yeah like I said sometimes an issue doesn't stem from where we think it does it's from something else completely and that's always
is where you start to problem solve. So as the problem solver or the mediator or the person to talk to when it comes to these issues, whenever you did that kind of job, did you ever struggle with those boundaries? And if so, how did you personally overcome those?
I don't think that I've had a struggle in boundaries where it affected things heavily. I've definitely had situations where, you know, because of this line of work and that's why there's so little of us.
I've had situations where people thought that I was like their best friend, which is fine, which is okay. But then
That's kind of on me then to kind of make it. Just remind them of the fact that look, we're friends, this is what our relationship is. You are still my client. I will still look after you. But yeah, I mean, there's so few of us because it's very difficult to be able
to handle that. It's very difficult to be able to keep your emotions kind of like separate and very rational and just know that you are here for this person, but they are not part of your family. You are not supposed to be giving them this sort of like unconditional um, leniency. The way that I worked
Before and the reason I got into this was because I do have a music festival myself Then the connections that I made then let me to be able to get into this circle of Promotes and DJs and you know high rolls in the in the music industry who do stuff who do suffer from something that is stopping them from you know focusing on their
career and then they need me to bring to come in so I am known in that as like a special I don't know like a special profession type of thing it is similar to having a friend that you
can rely on something that really much is lacking in that industry and somebody that you can vent to and who will be honest with you and who will give you the conflict resolution that you actually need. So that's something really, really difficult and that's something that people actually pay a lot for in the circle of high performers.
So it's going from good to great. Like it's not going from like depressed to being okay. It's going from you're good, but you could be great if you're able to demolish any sort of issues that you have interpersonally.
So you can focus on your career. Right. And I can definitely see why people would find that so alluring, right, and seek those services and find ways that they can go from good to great, right? Because that can make all the difference in your life and your well-being and kind of who you are as a person. And I'm interested in digging a little bit deeper into
you know, your relationships with people because it seems very apparent that throughout your time you've had these ebb and flows of people coming to you and becoming your friends and you know, going from industry to industry and now you're heavily involved here. So how do you juggle that all and what does your support system look like?
I'm very, very first of all very lucky to have my co-founders my best friend. I mean like I said I have, I don't know, actually I don't know why I said this. But anyway I have I have three other co-founders. One of them is my literal best friend within business partners since
Yeah, it's 2015 and we are definitely like each other's rocks. You know, we are always there for each other and we the way that we work together, I think it really evokes a similar sort of synergy and kind of healthy environment
for the rest of the founders and the rest of the team. So then with that, we've built kind of a small little ecosystem where we hit successes together, we hit failures together, and we deal with it in a way where there's never going to be an issue inside.
I would say that I do practice the emotional, quotient coaching and mediating also within the company that is XP Foundry, which is the company that is developing Rooniverse. So I'm going to definitely stop there. That's my first thing, the first thing that I can think of.
Apart from that, I mean right now I'm full-time in whatever, so I don't do any of the emotional coaching anymore, whether it be in the festival industry or any crypto individuals. I've left that. My festival, I own it still, but
I don't do it. So my focus is really, really fully on universe and whatever I come across it, Web 3 that I think, okay, you know, this has potential for me to help them or for them to help my game. And then, yeah, that's like where I'm looking at at the moment. I just think, you know,
If I just keep doing this for a long time, if our team just keep going up this for a long time, then we're going to reach the objectives or our vision. Yeah. Yeah, and I think having co-founders or other team members that aren't like tridings through
friends or best friends in some scenarios is always the best way to go right I can say I'm also privileged to have co-founders that are my best friends right they're my rocks and you know we can shoot the ship but also you know get get down to business yeah I fucking love
that yeah that is so cool I'm so glad that you have that I'm so happy to hear when other teams have that because internal issues is any any project is undoing honestly like you can have issues about any of the issues about capital
to get issues with outsources, rugged new bad community, whatever. But if you have internal issues within your co-founders, that sort of mistrust is going to tear you apart. I think people really don't look at this enough. Just the relationship that you have with your core team.
Yeah, and if you don't mind me asking, I'm interested to know when was your lowest point with your core team or in particular your co-founder that's your best friend?
The lowest point with my co-founder stems before Runeverse. So Runeverse is us. Sorry, I should say XP Foundry, a consultant in my boss studio. XP Foundry is us having learnt all of those things already. Obviously, I think this might be just like me stating the common sense.
But when we had that music festival, and it, like I said, was pretty much fully funded by Bitcoin, and we didn't make a thing out of this because we didn't know that it was like a special thing, but apparently it was one of the first ones. It was a pretty big festival in Southeast Asia.
the bubble burst, that was a really, really difficult time for us. That really was a test of our friendship, but we stuck it through. We both knew that our intentions were all pure and we had to find a lot of things together. We had to find a lot of
We had to fight investors who some of them were our friends who just didn't understand what the situation was so we learned a shitload of lessons and I have a different way of dealing with Like devastation that my co-founder does you know like I really shut down and
back then and he really didn't shut down like he would just go to work. He would go straight back to work, he would go back to work 20 hours a day, which is actually not that much more than he does normally, but it was different. So him seeing me dealing with it in a way that he didn't understand
was very frustrating for him and me being pressured into getting right back into it after such a scary time when that bubble bus was also really upsetting but we went through it, we analyzed
every single thing that went down during that time, you know what we could do better. And then, you know, we didn't do stuff together for a while until this whole like gaming thing, this whole like digital collectibles thing popped up. I made some art, I showed him and he was
that you've always wanted to do gaming, like let's make that happen. I brought in our other two co-founders who are giants in the gaming industry and we just really hit the ground running with that. And so I am so appreciative of whatever has happened so far because we've learned so much.
Yeah, and it's really those moments that make everything else worth it, right? I mean you you're at the lowest points and then it makes the highs so much better, right? And it's through those you learn those yeah, go ahead
And I was just agreeing with you. Yeah, yeah. Oh, god, you gotcha. But yeah, man, dude, it's we've gone through something similar like where you fucked up bad before and we've had to learn from our mistakes and it's you know, together that you really learn from each other and understand, okay, this is where we are and this is where
We're going and this is how we overcome every single mother fucking obstacle in the way and Yeah, yeah, yeah, and much I'm interested to know so you've been working with your co founder basically through thick and thin and how has he grown since you guys have first met
Oh my god, in every single way, I've always thought the guy was brilliant. I think my other two co-founders are brilliant too, but the guy I'm talking about is JPEG Maxi by the way. We could, what we might as well just make this segment about him, because I could not shut the fuck up about this guy, right? He is so...
like skilled he has multiple skillsets he has rapid skill acquisition he has such a fast brain this is somebody who played poker as a professional and he played it online with 20 tables simultaneously
So I don't fucking understand how that happens. Maybe people in the polka world think that that's super normal, but when I'm watching this happen in real time, I'm just like, what the hell is going on? You have 20 tables open. You're playing all 20 of them very, very quickly and you're winning.
That freaks me out already. I know this man is good at game theory. I know this man is great at system design. I know this man goes back and looks at all of his previous plays and he finds holes and flaws in every single action that he's done. I say, "Yo, this is gonna
be my business partner for a very long time because he's never going to let an era happen and he's proven that with Rooniverse. So, I mean, yeah, I'm just like baffled by the amount of support and we
That said, right now, Jaypeg Maxi looks after operations, tokenomics, economy design, legal finances for us. Pretty much all the stuff that myself and James and James don't think are fun. So just to remind you, James and James are
My partners on the game side James Finley is on game direction James Chong is on game production And I'm on creative direction. So we love doing all the fun stuff. We love doing all the game design We love designing mechanics. We love working on the world building you know the IP expansion unit
whatever the fuck we want to do that we think it's really fun right? And then everything else is looked up at my JVIC message just so that we're able to you know keep our creative hands going and I really think that like that's that's how it's supposed to go like that's how the years of of XP Foundry are supposed to grant.
Yeah, most definitely. And it's always awesome to grow with people, right? Whether that be through financially or you know, their business or just your own relationship and you know, watching them become a fuller, more whole
version of themselves is always inspiring. It encourages you to move forward and do the same thing as well. I was interested to know Melty, what do you think you've learned from your business partner and where has that taken you?
Okay, I love this question. Thank you so much because I never actually get to address it. I am somebody who grew up, I think, that I was spoiled.
Because I was always told that I was talented, grow it like as a child. So when I'm told that I'm talented and I can do anything and you know I have the skills in this or that or like you know these radios.
them fucking awards that now you look at it doesn't even matter. Come at you once you move into a lifestyle maybe university or something that's a little bit less like controlled in YouTube
I tend to become kind of lazy. And that's exactly what happened to me. So I was lazy. I think that I do stink still that I'm lazy, but I work a lot smarter. I was lazy way back and I
would not take criticism because I still have that ego, I still have that super complex where I'm like, I'm a creative in this and this way, this is how I work, I deliver stuff very quickly when I want to and it was something that I don't want to then you know kind of like fuck off, I don't want to do that. I'm still a little bit like that but I feel like I'm definitely a lot more gracious
about it now. I'm very, very happy to listen to feedback. I'm super happy when I get criticism. I'm super happy to communicate with my audience, especially my community, and just take in everything that they're saying because I know that they care enough to talk to me. So I learned all of that from my co-founder. Like I said, somebody who would always look
deep into his flaws and his previous moves and see how he did it wrong. So I think that's one of the main things. Apart from that, I've learned to, I think just be a little bit more open about my process.
There are a couple of artists listening right now and I think that you guys can relate to me in terms of, you know, when I say that it's difficult to share your process, you just want things to come out in the perfect final form that they are. And so,
Yeah, I've learned now to just be like, yeah, I'm just going to show you like it might not be the best thing ever right now, because it's a working progress. But here you go, you know, let me know what you think. So I think those two things kind of tie in together to like, I just don't want to, don't want to get criticism that is just like, oh, this is shit or something, because then#
curl up into a ball and die. But now it's just like, yeah, whatever. Like have a look. Tell me what you think and if the comments bad, that's fine. I could listen to you or I could not listen to you. At least I know. Love information. Thank you for all the information.
I love how you mentioned it. I think there's a common theme of not taking it to heart. You mentioned it with your art and then you mentioned it with some of the other industries you've been involved with before. I love how you mentioned that you came up as someone who's a little bit spoiled.
navigate that and find how you might fit and then also live up to these expectations of what everyone wants you to be, the person who's going to be the next president or solve cancer or whatever that might be, but Melody, I'm interested to know, you know, although you had these labels growing up, what were your childhood dreams?
I really really wanted to work in film. At first I wanted to
be like a movie director, that was like my thing growing up I studied film theory. So I've had it since I was little, I was so fascinated with films and movies and stuff like that. And then, you know, in the past couple of years I actually
had this epiphany where okay so actually growing up throughout uni I studied film theory and I studied film theory for a reason it was because I went into film production and I thought I suck I suck at this I suck at doing photography directing I'm a good director
But cinematography and everything that was required in film production in the branch that I was studying I sat at I was good at screenwriting But then yeah, so I felt sad for a while and I did work in the film industry. I did work in IP distribution and purchase We purchased a lot of other
But yeah, back to the akifani that I had, it was when I pretty much started runa rs for a while, I realized that I wasn't in love with movies themselves, I was obsessed with fictional worlds.
And I was more obsessed about them in games than I was in movies because games you really do leave your mundane life behind like a lot more. It's more interactive. You get more choices. So I mean,
Yeah, my passion I know now is very clear. Like I just really want to build immersive worlds, not just one, but many, like I want to build immersive worlds that are very intricate, that people can first find their identity in, find that they belong in
and then they can create from there. So you know, always had a fascination with George Lucas' Star Wars universe. I love all of the other ones too, you know, obviously. I love just checking out what was happening in fucking Hunger Games and Harry Potter.
and even Fortnite's universe is really cool to me. Like anything to do with fictional worlds, I think is super cool. Anything that immerses the audience in a way where the audience is like, I'm gonna forget about my life right now and just be immersed in this fictional life.
That's cool and I want that and so that's what I did with the music festival and that's what I'm doing now with Rootiverse and yeah the compliments that we're getting for the Rootiverse IP makes me so so happy
Absolutely, and I love to hear that. And I think it's funny how we often go through our lives and we misinterpret one love or one passion for another one. Right? You said you went into film, right? You studied film and it ended up being, it's not too much about film and it's more so about these worlds that
were able to create and convey the creativity and passion that's channeled inside of something like that. And my journey has been very similar. Whenever I was in college, I created a tutoring agency where I helped students get into college and be their best self. And what I wasn't passionate
about I wasn't passionate about education I was passionate about connecting with people that's what we I love doing that head swarming interviewer now but it's always always interesting to see how these mr. interpretations might lead to we're actually we're meant to be going and how we align with ourselves
and maybe our destiny or fate to be a little bit corny. But I always think that's interesting. And I love throughout your story Melty where you jump from one thing to another as you get closer to what is true to yourself. And I'd love to know what does your family think about your journey so far?
I am very thankful for my family because they do not give a fuck what I'm doing. They're very proud of me like whatever I do. I feel like as long as I'm not kind of following in their footsteps
So always be proud of me. I have this kind of theory that I got from my dad that if you are in the same industry as your parents, like they're not going to be as proud of you as if you're in another industry because they don't know much about that other industry.
know like like if my dad was a doctor he's not a doctor but if he was a doctor and then I was a doctor like I'm never gonna be better than him. So for me going into like film and into the creative part he's very much an economist so he's very much in in finance
and all that stuff. So he thinks that whatever I do is super cool. But he's in crypto now as well. But he came in after me, so that's different. My mom also was in crypto, she came in after me, so that's different. But yeah, I do completely different stuff from my parents and the rest of my family, so to the
them it's fascinating and I can see why and I'm happy and I wouldn't I wouldn't change it for the world but also they they know that I've been a creative since I was young you know they know that I work in my dreams like I lose a dream every single night so I work in my dreams and I I've told them about that since I was little so I think they
kind of like got the hint of it and they kind of let me find my passion. They know that I was shit at university. I did all of my cinema major or whatever it was like an interest to me. So cinema and screenwriting. I did all of that within one year and then the rest of the stuff that was like
compulsory that you have to you have to study stuff that is like also outside of what your page was. Took me like five years to complete all of it because I literally refused to do it. I was like I'm not interested in it. I'm not dreaming about these things so I'm not going to do them. And they were a little bit
frustrated but they were kind of just like yeah we'll just let you kind of like fuck it up yourself and then fix it yourself and we'll just be here being like okay are you good now so that that was kind of their way of supporting me and I really like that they're always very supportive
And I'm happy for you that you're able to have these supportive parents. Right, I've had speakers on my panel that definitely never had that experience. And it's always awesome to hear from the people that have. And a question I have for you, Melty, is when have you had to lean on your parents the most?
Definitely the period that I was describing before, where I was like being a terrible student. Like, I just was, I just refused to do stuff that I didn't want to do.
And they, like they've always encouraged me to do work like internships and stuff, like find different verticals that I might be interested in like even organizing and like, you know, working in brand marketing.
and shit like that over the holidays. So during those times I had to, I had to like awesome fall a lot of hell because I just felt like meant like first I was failing all of my uni things.
I was being so shit and I wasn't failing because I was trying I was failing because I just was not even trying like for example I would just Leave an exam like one day before it because I wanted to go to my best friend's wedding like I literally would just go and they would be like what's
the hell like this was a psychology exam you would have gotten your minor degree from this you could have just done it why didn't you do it and so I think at that time looking back now my parents must have been so mentally strong to not like completely this
just like shit, they would have had to have so much self-control to not just be like you are so disappointing. But yeah, I mean like I grew up in a different country for my parents too, just for context I grew up in Australia. My parents were back in Thailand, so in Australia most of my
life. So I mean, I don't know like the fact that I had to be this like quote unquote, like very, very useless child, and just asking them for help all the time. At one point I'm pretty sure I was homeless in Melbourne, because I was just so shit with my spending.
Yeah, I don't know what I put them to man back back then back then, but I'm glad that we're good now obviously, you know, they never really gave me a super super hard time about it luckily, but I know I know it's not like that for everybody. I really do know I've spoken to so many people
people and you know my best friends don't have the best experiences for example with their family growing up so I really get that this is an exception this is not normal yeah for sure I mean I'm just glad that we have you where you are today and I
I think you're a fantastic person, right? And I think you've come out of this jerk's I mean, I think you speak for yourself. I'm not going to put words in your mouth or anything, but I think it's awesome. And I'm glad you're able to have that and you know, becomes this person you are today. And I know I did say at the beginning that we would have cut it
short but it looks like I forgot about that. So we are coming pretty close to the end here. I've got maybe one or two questions left for you. Then we'll go ahead and wrap it up. But Melty, I loved our conversation but I'm interested to know what are your top three priorities right now?
My top three priorities at a higher level are assuming literally what tasks I'm pursuing right now. Whatever answer you think would be more fun.
Oh my gosh, this is too open ended. Okay, I'm just gonna go off the top of my head like the stuff that is in my head at the moment. First priority, I have to close seed round for root of hers because all I
can think of is this map that we've created that is bringing the world that I designed to life. I know this is a really specific one but let me explain. So, Rooniverse, when we're in the middle of race
round. JPEG MAXIE stops us from shipping new features. This is because like I said, he is so careful with everything. We need to preserve the runway so he makes sure that every development sprint that we do is bug fixing or anything.
that is to maintain the current version so that we don't deplete our runway in a significant way. And me being on creative direction side, I'm obsessed with the world that we're bringing out. I'm obsessed with the aesthetic of the tribal part, the rules being in the neon set.
wedding, wacky buildings, stupid looking weapons, all of that stuff. That's all going to come out in the cinematic video that we'll put out pretty soon. But that, to me, comes to life in the New Ruhollah map.
If I don't close seed round, if I don't take matters into my own hands, I'm not saying my co-founders are not doing a good job, they really are. But I'm involved with Rarsup than them because I really, really need this rule, I'm up to come out because I really need everybody to know what the fuck root of Rarsup is supposed to look like.
So that's my first one. The second priority for me is definitely to venture more into the world of
like economy design for gaming. I don't know. I've taken a bigger interest in it. I know it's not my specialty. I know that I didn't study it as much as, you know, a JPEG has or, you know, our advice is Navig.
I've actually been doing a pretty good job at consulting for gaming projects around here so personally I would like to step a lot more into that world. My third priority is to go home. I've been traveling for a long time.
I always have been somebody who traveled for a very very long time. I am somebody who tries to go home for the holidays rather than I know a lot of people travel for the holidays. For me I want to go home, you know. I think this is actually one of the first time that I've missed home.
I actually don't know why. I can't pinpoint why. But I just think something is saying, you know, like just go home, hang out with your dogs, you know, maybe see your parents a little bit. And it's okay to like take a little bit of a rest from
from doing all this crazy traveling and attending all these conferences or just being with the studio. And again, just for context, our engineers and artists are in LA. So I don't know why, but every line of work that I've been involved in has involved me.
traveling for half of the year and I am not home for that long at a time. So yeah, my third priority is I want to be home for like a few months, you know, that would be really, really cool.
That would be awesome. And at home there is always peace of mind. And when you're out traveling about, you know, there's too much stuff going through your brain. So it definitely be nice to take a break and enjoy some.
time with some kind of comfort, some kind of consistency and be able to take it in. But to close it off my last question for you, Melty would be, did you have something you wanted to add there so I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, I was gonna say that there's also mosquitoes at home which I'm scared of. I just thought of that. So, I'm scared. I'm allergic to mosquitoes and there's so many in Thailand. That's so random but yet.
Okay, yeah, that was... I thought mosquitoes were scary, but I can't imagine how scary they are when you're allergic to them. So definitely stay safe.
I'm not sure what that entails, but definitely, you know, hoping for the best for you. But to close it off here, Melty, my last question for you would be, why are you still here?
Yo, that question is actually like wait. Oh, thank you so much. What is this?
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Maybe not shit so sorry so sorry so sorry my bad. Now you're good. You're good. I did you hear my question? Yeah, the internet run And then yeah, like I said, I'm at like a house party and then Chico
brought me like a chick filet in the middle of that. And actually I've never had chick filet before this is my first time. It's kind of spicy. Thank you so much. Yes
Yes, my last question to wrap it up here would be why are you still here? Okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I like this question. Okay, so I don't know I don't know
if this is like a semi-controversial thing but this question has many layers. Okay so let me explain. Rooniverse as many many many people know we minted on Solana and then we built on Polana and it
was fucking amazing without the community, but then we moved over to start us an IMX because we wanted to be our own ecosystem. I mean, anybody who's curious can read all about, you know, the reasons in the tech and whatever. I don't
it matters here, but I myself, as I spoke on the panel today at Hacker House 2, I identify as a Solana person. So that question actually means a lot to me. Like why am I still here? I'm literally obsessed with everybody in this community that are my friends.
Like I can't fucking fathom the connection that I have with my friends in this community. I think I'm really, really, really, really in so deep.
with everybody here. Like, you know, honestly, I could give less of a shit about the token. Like, yeah, so that's cool. The tech is cool and stuff like that. But I don't even care. I never look at the price. I'm just here because this is where I want to hang out. This is when I want to show up. This is like my home that is
not my physical home. And so that's why I'm still here. Like I don't, I have a game that I don't think should be here. It is somewhere else and I've moved it. But I myself am here. You know, Jeff MacSys is a slander person. A lot of our community, Masalona people.
So like, I don't see this as like a blockchain thing anymore. I think it's really just kind of a group of friends, like a really gigantic and toxic group of friends that are sometimes a little bit incestuous if I could be honest with you, but that's where the drama is and we love it.
We do love it here whether we want to admit it or not We enjoy the time of our lives in Salana, and I like to say that we are still in the good old days We haven't quite left them yet. So enjoy the world. I know it is so
entertaining here and it's gonna continue to be entertaining no matter what happens like we just get hit with so many things man and that's just I know sometimes it is terrible and devastating and depressing and sometimes it's like really euphoric
But I don't know, this is like a whole other dimension that we're in. This really ties back to what I mean with like fictional worlds. Like I really think our ecosystem is the metaverse. I don't care about 3D metaverses. Like this is the metaverse. CTE, especially a lot of the funniest metavers ever. Yeah. All right.
have to agree. And I'm glad to have found all the homies on the way here and I'm glad to have met you and have had this fantastic interview Melty. We definitely went way over time which is my bad for sure but it was an absolute blast chatting with you. So I'll really quickly run through my end of space recapture.
and then I'll throw it over to you for a conclusion and then we'll tie this up with a bow and then I'll send you off. But guys, thank you for being here. This is making time. The show hosted by me, HV Socrates on the Syndicate Network, where we learn more about the people of Web 3 and why they're still here. And guys, if you enjoyed this show, I will say that I hosted
single day at 11 p.m. ESD and tomorrow I will be interviewing my good friend Spoonicus. So if you're interested in that I'd love to see a bunch of the homies, a bunch of familiar faces in the audience tomorrow. But today's show was about Melty and Melty before I go ahead and send you all fun your way. Do you have any last closing thoughts?
Yes, I do. Thank you so much. This was one of the funnest interviews I've had. You are extremely fucking talented at it. I remember seeing, I think it was Amy's pose. I think it was Amy. I'm so sorry if it wasn't
But yeah, yeah, she was like this was the funnest interview that I had and I was like, oh I have one coming up. I can't wait to be you know shown what the fuck she means and yeah, you really blew it off the water
I think the last thing that I have to say, I really owe it to my community, to my game. Our alpha is open and live. Please go and play it if you want to kill your friends as cute little ruse, different kind of ruse from your ruse.
I know we're twins, I know you're a ruse, but I'm also a ruse, but we're different. Outflow is open, you can access it through playruniverse.com or I'll Twitter or you know, I'll just call it whatever is really easy to access.
just go and play in there if your community has games night. It literally is the stupidest multiplayer game that you can play right now in this ecosystem. I fucking promise you it is so dumb.
So yeah, please do that. That would be funny. Absolutely will. And thank you once again for being here Melty. We appreciate it learning more about your story and I appreciate the flowers. I always try to make this space something.
fantastic for the listeners and the speakers alike. And I can't thank you enough for coming by today and thank you to everyone in the audience as well because without you, without people like you guys making time for Melty, none of us would be here.
and it's always fantastic to learn more about the people behind the PSP. But, melty with that, I will send you on your way. I've definitely held you for a little bit too long here. But, guys, thank you so much for being here, and I hope all of you have a fantastic rest of your day.
My blue stocks is rugged to you. You're about to bear with me for half a second here guys. Let's see you Yeah, yeah Yeah guys, thank you for being here. I'll get this project in just a second. I'll catch you all later for sure