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March Madness Best Bets 🏀💰
Recorded: March 20, 2025 Duration: 1:36:51Space Recording
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Well here we are we are the ball is tipped as they like to say you know we have these
little little teasers of last night and tonight
Otherwise known as the first four but at the same time it's exciting tomorrow. We are one sleep away
from the greatest day in college basketball really probably the greatest day in sports
As far as my money goes.
Right. But, you know, who wants to listen to me talk all night?
It's a super exciting.
We can talk through best bets
going into the state tomorrow starting, you know,
we are what about 15 hours away, right?
From the ball being tipped off on the the real I mean look
the first force fun it's nice it's it kind of gets the beak way a little bit
you know it's it's alright it has its place but it's not the same that's what
tomorrow and Friday are and that's what we're here to talk about tonight right
guys so what's
going on? Bob, we have Bob Digital, we have Jordan, we got guns, Adam Trigger in
the house. What's going on guys? How are we doing? How excited are we going into
tomorrow now?
Zach, you said it wrong. You have to go, the ball is tipped and there you are
You're running for your life
You're a shooting star. You're on your way
You got to sing it if you're gonna bring it you gotta sing it. But yeah, I'm well, hey guys That's what we got you here for right? Yeah, we got a we gotta let the the singers sing
It's mind-boggling that song hasn't been replaced yet.
Like if you think about it,
like that it survived this long.
It won't be replaced.
It can't be. It's so bad.
It's the worst song. It's not bad.
Shut up, Trini.
It is so horrendously bad, yet it's like,
it's just, I mean, it's great.
At this point, I mean, we gotta ride it out.
You're right, it's probably never gonna be replaced at this point. That's a terrible take. What are
we going to replace it? I don't think so. I don't think it's a good song.
We can just shit on Drake and the Superbowl. Might as well shit on him.
The horrific song. All right, then write a song then, Drake.
I'm waiting for you to come up with a new theme.
Gons, I'm trying to handicap like minor league baseball and shit.
You think I have time to write a jingle for the NTA tournament?
I forget.
This is your busy season.
Carry on, carry on.
Well, Hey guys, uh, we could sit here and debate one shining moment all night long. But, uh, this is our one shining
moment heading into, uh, heading into tomorrow. So, you know, without, um, keeping people
waiting, uh, now that we've gotten the one shining moment, you know, look, well, that'll
be for another day, maybe a heading into championship night, we can decide to
relitigate this, whether or not it should or shouldn't be replaced. But, you know, we're
looking we're talking best bets tonight, best bets for maybe what's already in anything
else that you want to fire on heading into tomorrow.
So Bob did what's going on, man? What do you got?
Obviously a great day already. I cashed the second half under, barely, in that American
Mount St. Mary's game a few moments ago. Had the under $157.50 at halftime. Took that immediately
on the second half under. After Rogers went down
for American, I did have American on an early money line as well. So kind of got that back. So
an unfortunate situation where best player on your team goes down in a bet. You get unlucky there,
but then no scoring in the final two and a half minutes there in that game to kind of catch that second half under so fortunate and unfortunate in that game nothing for me on the game coming up
I've toyed with the idea of betting fading a little bit of the steam here on
Xavier and coming back on Texas haven't clicked that button yet but you know
maybe something that will look live here as we're kind of going through the, uh, the show here tonight.
Um, I know, uh, it's kind of cliche on some of the best bets that people like,
um, already, but I guess I'll just list off a couple of them.
The first bet I placed, uh, was UC San Diego, um, over, over Michigan.
I took three and a half,
it's two and a half across the market.
Now, I think they just caused a bunch of turnover issues
for Michigan in that spot.
And I thought that was kind of like the dream matchup.
I was admittingly like kind of interested in fading
the UC San Diego upset vibes
that kind of everyone was giving up,
giving off in the league in
the week leading up to the tournament but as far as a matchup goes this would
have been the exact one I kind of picked there as far as other games I like that
maybe aren't aren't as popular like Oregon laying the seven against Liberty
think it's a huge matchup problem for the Flames plus really good travel
situation as well for the Ducks. Plus really good travel situation as well
for the Ducks staying on the West Coast
being only a couple hours from campus.
Wide Liberty, a team I'm not too a big fan of personally
has to go across the West Coast
and then massive size issue there.
So I laid seven with Oregon there.
So I guess I'm gonna start with those two
as some of my favorite bets for for round one.
I gotta play for tonight if anyone wants to hear it.
Yeah I was actually just gonna say that that I should have started now that this
isn't tipped yet for anybody to go ahead and fire away on something you got
tonight so yeah go ahead Gunz.
I already fired this on the Gun picks channel on YouTube. Go check
that out. I already gave out my three plays to pay the bills
on the YouTube channel guns picks underscore channel. Go
check that out. But let's talk about Xavier versus Texas in
this one. The key to this matchup basically to me when I
break this game down is Xavier is free throw shooting and the
amount of times they get on the line because Xavier is free throw shooting and the amount of temps they get on the line because Xavier is ranked 8th in free throw
percentage and Texas give is 390th in opposing free throw
attempts per game. So I think this Xavier team is going to
have a lot of chances on the charity stripe and quite
frankly, they make their free throws and also another key
statistic. You got to look at Xavier from the three point
line because they're ranked six in in three
part percentage.
They're facing a Texas defense is ranked 144th in the country
in opposing three point percentage.
Then for Xavier, when you look at the spread perspective
and how they performed in these positions, they've done very
well.
They're 10 and two ATS is a single digit favorite this
season.
They're also 7 to 1 straight up in 6 and 2 ATS in their last
eight games overall.
So I like similar to like how I took UNC yesterday, which
cash effortlessly in the first half.
But mind you, you got to take hot teams going into the tournament
elite, especially when you look at them from a sample size
in their last ten games.
Granted, like, you know, maybe mid majors is probably the
outlier in this one.
But when you talk about these major teams that are in these
big conferences and they're playing well, you need to take
them right now because Xavier is seven to one straight up,
six and two ATS in the last eight games.
Then you got to look at Texas on the other side.
They have won three out of the last five games.
Granted, but they're four and eight straight up in three
nine ATS in the last 12 games.
So I think this Xavier team is going to come out here strong.
And I think statistically the strengths of Xavier play into
the weaknesses of Texas.
So I think it's going to be a good Xavier spot here.
Give me Xavier.
I got it minus two and a half.
I have no idea what the line is now.
I grabbed it last night, but Xavierus two and a half. I have no idea what the line is now. I grabbed it last night,
but Xavier minus two and a half as my play.
Love that. Yeah. Anybody else had thoughts on tonight? I guess
before we dive any deeper into into what we have looking ahead
into tomorrow. Oh, I got a night play. You want some NIT action?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Come on guns.
Keep firing away.
Finger on the trigger, right?
I'm not the Adam.
You know what I do?
Like some people just load the pistol.
I loaded AK 47 and I just fire shots across the bow because this is a good one
too, because we have Utah Valley versus San Francisco tonight in San
Francisco, California, 11 PM late
night, generous specials.
We love late night generous specials over here on the Guns
Pick channel.
You got to look at our UVU on the offensive side.
They're 178th in offensive efficiency.
They're going against the defense.
However, in San Francisco, those ranks 51st defensive efficiency
offenses and defense on the other side
for San Francisco and the, uh, Utah Valley side defensively kind of match
up very well, but I think the keys of this game is going to be big advantage
on the defensive side here for San Francisco versus a bad, uh, Utah Valley
offense, excuse me, then you have a San Francisco will have to make threes
to, to get
over the hump on this spread because Utah Valley is good at defending the two inside the arc.
So I think San Francisco might have an advantage outside
the arc then in then you get a look at our San Francisco
performed well in this position.
They're tended to ATS as a favorite of 13 points or last
in the three and one ATS is a single digit favorite at home.
Then you get to look at Utah Valley.
Not a good position for them because they're one and four
ATS in their last five row games, and they're one and four
ATS is a dog of more than five points.
This is a San Francisco team that I think they will be
motivated to go play here at War Memorial.
I think it's going to be an absolutely perfect spot for them.
I'm not looking at the markets.
I'm not looking at anything else.
I'm just looking at the numbers.
Give me San Francisco here minus seven half as a play.
I'll jump in here because I want to agree with with guns and
it's actually six and a half.
That's down to six and a half everywhere right now.
And I would agree.
I would agree that that's even better.
The one thing I'll add in regards to this one is
Utah Valley really internally expected to win that game on Saturday.
I have some friends in the WAC conference and this is a team is a team that lost one game all conference season. It was to Grand Canyon. They got to the, to the final, um,
Saturday night. Yes, they were a slight underdog, but that that's a really disappointing result.
If you kind of follow them all year, watch them dominate that conference all year, they
win the outright regular season title. And like, you know, just to fall short and not get to the NCAA tournament is, is, I think it might be a little bit tough for them to
get up for this game on the road here. So in addition to agreeing with what guns had
to say, I think it's probably a decent spot for San Francisco. Also feels like a game
that has a lot of points. So, you know, maybe one that goes over, uh, because they'll play,
you know, it should be a quicker game.
I think San Francisco is still without Williams.
I haven't double checked that, but I agree with what gun said.
And then I think just added context.
I could see Utah Valley, maybe no showing from like a
motivational standpoint here.
I like that trig agrees with March.
And if you don't know who March is, it's me.
So I'm, I'm the month of March.
They just changed the name of March to guns picks.
They've, they first changed it from March to is, oh, was what I was told.
And now I guess
the G U N Z P I was cashing tickets in
turning stone with my friend, Adam Trigger is mine.
I will cease and desist with Izzo.
It is mine.
Like the sunbelt, it is now the gun belt. Izzo. It is mine. Like the sunbelt.
It is now the gun belt.
I will own March as well.
There is a video of you screaming that somewhere.
I believe I'll pull that up in a steak house with full of sophisticated people.
I'm surprised that he's allowed us to like come back after that one.
I wanted to also like now that Jordan's back, I wanted to also, can we get Jordan up here
to talk UC San Diego because I wanted to agree with Bobby.
Like I like UC San Diego a lot, but I'm not going to try to talk about UC San Diego with
Jordan's here because it's like he should be talking about it.
So, but I wanted to say like I'm very much agreement, and I do think the matchup is very good.
I've seen a lot of people on Twitter like, oh, it's a bad matchup for them.
It's actually not at all.
It's actually a very, I think it's as good of a matchup as UC San Diego could have asked
for.
The interesting thing to me is I don't know that Michigan has really seen anything
like the way they play.
So I actually think it's a very tricky matchup for Michigan.
And I made the number Michigan minus one.
So when I saw the three and a halfs out there, I took it as well.
So I agree with Bobby.
But I'd rather listen to Jordan talk about it because he's just very knowledgeable about
that team. Yeah, I mean, you know, Zach and I talked a couple weeks ago
on a space and, you know, even then,
we didn't really know what matchups we would give,
but I was saying, like, I would love for UC San Diego
to face Michigan in the first round.
And so the fact that they got there, like, you know,
I think it's a, like you said,
I think it's a phenomenal matchup for them
just because Michigan, you know, I think it's a like you said, but I think it's a phenomenal matchup for them just because
Michigan, you know, they're very careless with the ball and you see San Diego Eric Olin
He runs a ton of defensive schemes every game like he won't just run one defensive scheme
like he's gonna throw a lot at Michigan and
Obviously Michigan's got two seven-footers like okay, they're gonna win the glass battle, you know
I don't disagree with that.
But the thing is, is like these Michigan bigs have been soft all year.
And really the game against Maryland was the first game where they actually, in
my opinion, like actually use their size to their advantage.
Like they're not a great rebounding team.
There's a hundred 82nd in the country in rebounding.
So the fact that they have bigs like that,
they don't really use it to their advantage.
And on top of that, you know, UC San Diego,
look what they did to Irvine.
And I understand Irvine isn't as big as Michigan,
but Irvine still has size.
Like Devin Tillis is 6'8", Ben Hoisting is 7'2".
And I would argue Ben Hoisting's a better big
than Vlad Golding. And I know I'll get pushback on that but I really do. I think he's a
better player than Vlad Golden and they handled him well in all three of their
matchups except for the one at UC San Diego. He he went off in the second half
but yeah I think it's a great matchup and I think the line tells all man like
this line opened his bait as a 3-3 3 three and a half, and it's down to two and a half.
I think that tells you everything you need to know about the respect that
you see San Diego is getting by the odds makers.
I actually agree with that take.
The one thing that makes me nervous about Michigan and, and I've, I've
watched how, how that's, I was trying to figure out how the UC San Diego
defense work, so they re run a double team, like trap scheme. I've watched how, how that's, I was trying to figure out how the UC San Diego defense
work. So they run a double team like trap scheme. So if they get you in a quarter, they're
going to like run the traps and they're going to rotate the defense into the passing lanes,
right? But they're going to only rotate the defense into the key passing lanes. So there's
always going to be one man open and it's usually the opposite side of the court and it's going to be a guy at the three.
So as long as like Danny Wolf doesn't have the ball and he's not
like it has his head on a swivel or, or like if they give it to Vlad,
I don't think Vlad has that ability, but Danny Wolf has that smart ability
to like, uh, like rotate the ball to an open, open, uh, guy on the opposite side of the court.
That's the only way they're going to get open looks there for Michigan.
I do agree.
Like I'm on the UC San Diego side, just on their ability to create
turnovers, just on their trapping ability in their rotation, uh, to
the passing lanes and, and not like necessarily stealing the ball, but
making the defense make mistakes. And I mean, the office make necessarily stealing the ball, but making the, the defense
make mistakes and I mean, the office make mistakes and you know, Michigan makes
mistakes there, they're terrible at, uh, uh, you know, keeping the ball.
They have a lot of turnovers, but it does worry me on two sides.
Like Danny Wolf, like, uh, just getting open, open, uh, just passing the ball to the
opposite side and given his, uh, guards open looks for three and, uh, the ability
to like off a pick to just cut and, and understanding like the fact that they're
going to be aggressive off picks and you have smart, intelligent, uh, post players that
understand that in, in the coaching there for, for Michigan is impeccable.
This is, this is a guy that has been to the final four at FAU.
So, uh, that makes me nervous a little bit, but, uh, UC SD, I, I, I
want to take them a hundred percent, but it does make me nervous on the ability of, uh, uh, from a coaching perspective, who's going to be the better coach in the situation.
Eric Cohen's a better coach.
There's no question about that.
I think they're going to swore.
I think that Wolf's going to have a terrible game.
I think they're going to throw, I think they're going to double him.
I think they're going to like throw a bunch of different like pressure at him and he's the one you can kind of force into turnovers in my opinion.
Like I disagree with you a hundred percent.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I like there is, is like, there
is that ability to, uh, for a guy like a seven footer where.
Uh, Michigan has the height advantage to, to, if they have
their head on the swivel and understand where to look opposite side of the
court, when the traps coming to, to get that ball out, there is, uh, uh, an
ability for Michigan to actually win this game.
I don't think that's going to happen because I do, I've watched a lot of UCSD
and they are very suffocated on the defensive side and they're very disciplined in that matter.
And they do recover when, when, uh, when they go for the opposite side.
However, I don't think they played like a lot of these P five schools with
this talent before.
And that makes me a little bit worried.
I was just going to ask that if anybody had any concerns at all about the complete lack
of power conference opponents.
Really, I mean, they have been impressive.
It's not to diminish anything they've accomplished,
but I know that a few weeks back,
that was kind of something
that Jordan and I got into a little bit
where it's just kind of, that Jordan and I got into a little bit where
it's just kind of, it's a different level, right?
And you can only play the teams in your conference and from a non-con standpoint early on, you
know, if teams won't sign up to play or travel to play or whatever the case is, you know,
it's hard, but it's impossible to ignore at the same time.
So I don't know if anybody else had any kind of concerns on that front, which is kind of
the lack of power opponents.
I have an answer, but Bobby can go first because he's got his hand up, but I've got an answer
to that.
Yeah, I'm going to, yeah, my answer to this is yes, I do have concerns about it.
Like I had kind of mentioned off the top that I was kind of interested in potentially going against the UCSD like trendy upset pick, you know, if they place a different opponent, like, for example, who I mentioned is price on a UCSD versus Oregon.
Yeah, I'd probably be laying it with the ducks,
but it's all about the matchup on this
is why I'm still on it
and think that UCSD can overcome that.
I think they'll be able to turn over Danny Wolf.
And another thing too is I know,
I have a lot of respect for the Cal Irvine program,
and they have a big seven footer as well.
So we've seen UC San Diego beat them twice this year.
So we have seen UCSD deal with size before in that league.
UCSD know that they are in a power conference team,
but that is a respectable opponent
in that Big West Conference.
Yep, that's pretty much what I was gonna get, I was going to get at, like, who cares
if you've played power conference teams?
It's really just about playing, like, decent competition, respectable teams.
And like, I look up and down, I mean, they didn't play Murderers Row by any means, but
they played San Diego State, they played a Seattle team from the WAC that's got some
talent on the roster.
James Madison was a good team.
Toledo is, these aren't like slouch opponents,
the win over Utah State.
They played Irvine, think three times.
That's a pretty solid opponent.
So to me, it doesn't matter that you didn't play a power conference.
Would it have been better if they played NC State? Right? Like,
that's a power conference team. They're terrible. Like, there's a lot of bad power conference teams.
So like, I don't, to me, it like doesn't really matter that you didn't go and play
a team from the ACC. It's like, are you playing decent competition? How are you fairing against
these teams? And they've been really impressive. So I think it's really more matchup based for me at least,
but I also don't think they're gonna like,
I don't know, something tells me just like the way they play
and the confidence that they play with,
like they're not gonna sweat playing Michigan here.
I don't think the moment's gonna be too big for them.
That's just my gut saying that,
but I think they'll be up for it.
I think from a situational standpoint, uh, Michigan's in the highest of highs right now, I don't think they expected to win the big 10 and they did.
So, uh, especially how that team performed, like in the season, I mean,
they like every single team that they played, they were within like four
points, it seemed like in every single situation, whether played, they were within like four points.
It seemed like in every single situation, whether it was a great point category.
So is this one of those situations that they're going to play close and
it's going to be tooth and nail possibly.
But I think that, yeah, UC San Diego could take advantage of the fact
that they are turnover prone.
But like I said, I would just given this other angle to it is like, are
they going to feed the big men?
Because that's the only way they're going to win is feed the big man.
Like, uh, Danny Wolf and Vlad inside and Vlad Vlad, by the way, can
only score at top of the key.
Like that is like his spot.
And I think, I think there is recognition from the coaching
aspect that like, that's where you need to give them the ball.
Denny Wolf can go inside and out.
Uh, but everything's got to work through two people.
You can't like win tournaments with two people because your guards
a week guard plays everything.
And I think UC San Diego has a guard advantage on this one.
So they're going to have to hit shots.
They're going to have to like, like less second chance opportunities
on the boards, because I think they're going to get dominated on the boards.
But defensively they create turnovers and they do it from rotation trap
defenses, and if they can accomplish that without having the significant,
like across court passing to the three points, I think 15 could win this game
outright and they're on my bracket to advance to go play Texas A and M.
Done.
You want to hear something crazy?
The last 15 games of the regular season, Michigan either lost or one by four or less.
That's kind of wild.
You think I don't know that?
I know it's just crazy.
I didn't know it was that many off the top of my head.
Crazy.
You know, when, uh, Michigan has performed well, when they're a dog and, and everybody
forgets that like, oh, they just won the big 10 championship.
Do you realize every single opportunity was as a dog, but when they're a
favorite or even a short favorite, they've flustered like that.
I don't know if it's a book thing or if they acknowledge the fact that
they're a favorite and they just get comfortable.
I don't know, but yeah.
And they're a favorite here.
So the books are doing it right.
Making this a short line.
I'm also intrigued at how Michigan's going to defend
Aniwaniwate Jones because I've heard a lot of people
on Michigan Twitter talking about they think Danny Wolf's
going to guard him.
And he's just going to blow by Danny Wolf.
I just think that's a bad matchup.
And I don't know if they really have
somebody that can start him. I guess it's going to have to be a team effort and it's going to lead to open
threes and that's what UC San Diego does very well.
Like they get a lot of good open threes and they got a lot of good three point
shooters. They got four three point shooters, including their big man.
Um, so I, I think there's gonna be a lot of opportunity for UC San Diego to win
this in a multiple multitude of ways, to be honest.
Yeah, I agree.
Like, yeah, the guard.
I mean, what advances in the tournament in a lot of the
situations and what makes an upset happen with the Cinderella
team is great guard play, deep guard play.
Like I talked about it last time I was on the show.
VCU is another one of those teams. I saw
them live, and I watched effortless defense from that team.
And they're going to position against a BYU team that their
strength is their offense. I think they're going to struggle
in that game. And for the matter, the fact that they have
two good inside guys, maybe three, they got Clark inside that can go inside out and he can also
shoot threes.
I think BYU might have a problem in that game.
I don't mean to transition from UC San Diego, but we got to
talk about this.
Guns.
Guns.
When I saw the bracket, the first thing I thought of was
guns is probably going to be right about VCU.
That's the first thing I thought.
I thought it was a bad matchup when I saw the bracket come out.
I thought they they they asked VCU a little bit and they put them in the wrong side.
However.
I kind of like look at the stats and I said, this is the perfect matchup for them
against a great offense to kind of showcase themselves.
I'm telling you, I've never seen a defense like the switching that they do.
And I saw it live.
There is no talking.
And normally when you hit a screen, there's always talking like pick, pick, pick, pick, pick.
You could hear it on the court.
You never heard a single peep out of VCU.
And that's a credit to Odom of what he's done to develop this.
That team is suffocating.
There is no shot that BYU will have to, I think it's tomorrow,
yeah, tomorrow, that will be uncontested.
I will say that.
The other thing I think is overblown. I keep hearing people talk about altitude and it's
like, listen, the altitude matters when you're traveling in the regular season and it's like,
you're trying to get out there, play a game, get to the next city and stuff like that.
I just don't think the altitude is going to be that big of a deal in the NCAA tournament
when all the teams are getting out there at the same time.
They're gonna have time to prepare.
And so I use this because of the BYU game,
but also Montana having a slight altitude advantage
is maybe worth a half point.
They're still gonna get boat raced by Wisconsin.
It's a terrible matchup for them.
They're not gonna get any stops.
Wisconsin can defend them at the rim
and Montana gets a lot of their points at the rim.
But like, I think you,
like I've heard it like numerous times.
Well, Montana played in Flagstaff this year.
They played in Greeley, Colorado.
And it's like, all right. I mean, what do you guys think about that? Is that I just think it's like a narrative
that's been thrown out there because people need things to talk about and
I'm not putting any stock into that. So that would also kind of apply to VCU
Zach and Bobby and I talked about this game and we actually we actually alluded to the altitude and
Denver is really a hop,
skip and jump from Utah so I mean it's gonna be a BYU home game basically.
Oh that for sure.
BYU will run the show as far as fan support there.
Yeah, honestly I really like BYU in this game tomorrow and I do get VCU's great defensively.
I just don't know if VCU's gonna be able to score enough with BYU like BYU scores against good
Defenses, you know, I mean like they play better defenses and VCU in the big 12 and they did a they had a hella good
Year this year. That's a really good team, man
Yeah, yeah, you know, I've heard a lot. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead guns. I was going to say, I heard a lot of, uh, people say, you know, I've heard some saying that this team is better, really one of the better VCU teams we've seen.
Um, you know, even more impressive than some of the teams that have made really deep runs for them.
Um, but yeah, sorry, go ahead.
No, I like you brought up that point.
Like, oh, they can't make their shots. They do have like two or three, like, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,, but yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, I like you brought up that point.
Like, oh, they can't make their shots.
They do have like two or three, like real honed in, like three point shooters.
But the one thing that they do very well is they rebound off, off as the boys,
the rank 12th in the country and offensive rebounding percentage.
So yeah, the reason why they're, their numbers are so bad from like
two point three point perspective is the fact that like they take a lot of shots
and it, and they have the opportunities a lot and granted everybody says, well,
their schedule, their schedule, their schedule.
I say like the eight 10 as far as a defensive standpoint is, is the most
suffocating defense in the country.
And I'll say that adamantly, regardless of the fact that like a lot of the A10 didn't
make the tournament this year, but like I watched like absolute like I watched in that
gym at a Capital One arena.
It was like those guys are suffocating. And I watched ACC, SEC and everything.
Go ahead.
Misconception in my opinion.
A lot of people said the A10 was bad this year.
The A10 was very deep.
Like there was a lot of quality teams.
It was just they didn't have,
there was really no great teams.
So it's like, I disagree when people are like,
oh, the A10's trash. It's like, I disagree when people are like, oh, the eight tens trash.
It's like, well, your day ends weren't like elite this year and they didn't
have like, like the top top teams.
But when you got down to like team 10 and team 11, team 12, it wasn't that
different than team like three and four.
So I actually thought it was a pretty tough league that
that's not getting enough credit.
Yeah.
Illinois, like a loyal Chicago, a St Loyola, Chicago, uh, St.
Bonaventure, uh, uh, St.
Joseph's.
So yeah, you're right.
Like you said it perfectly.
There, there are a bunch of teams that are kind of even to each other.
However, VCU kind of step themselves apart.
If you look in conference, they were always double digit favorites.
Oh, they smashed everyone in that league.
Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to yell. I'm excited about BCU.
Hey, man, go ahead. Yell away. No worries there. No need to apologize. We know that you bring the energy. No, you woke us all up last time. I saw them on TV a bunch of times when I saw them play defense
and I watch how that team where granted their shooting wasn't
great.
They still won that game by 15.
And I was like, it's like it doesn't even matter that they
shoot bad.
They just have that ability, especially in the second half.
And I think that's like what Tr what, uh, Triggs said about like
the altitude and everything like that.
It doesn't matter.
This team is conditioned for a full game.
And sometimes you watch VCU and you question yourself on a bet
in the first half, and then they come back in the second half
and they're playing full court.
Like every guard is up in your face the whole entire time.
As you're going up the court, that is suffocating.
And then like everybody on the court is just in this one cohesive
unit and they're not talking.
And as a guy that has played, I'm a washed up D three athlete to
understand, to watch a team play defense.
And I was coached very well on defense.
I've never seen a team like just hit the positions, be in the right spot.
There was only like one or two mistakes that I saw on the floor, you know, in a
four in, in that whole entire game.
And it was against St.
Bonaventure and I was like, Oh my God, this team is, has the
poise to get to the sweet 16.
So if you want a future bet, take VCU to get sweet 16.
There's got to be value there.
I'll, um, I'll talk about one that I bet.
I guess we'll just switch gears here.
Um, but I, but I play, sorry, I didn't know if I was echoing or...
Yeah, guns, I think you might have a little echo.
Go on, yours.
Yeah, so I took 18 and a half on Sunday.
18 is fine, even 17 and a half is fine, but I took this on Sunday with Bryant when the lines came out.
So this is kind of up in my neck of the woods here.
America East Champions, but I don't think,
I just don't think people understand
how capable this Bryant team is.
And so you're talking like catching 18 points.
This matchup is not terrible for them.
Michigan State, one thing they tend to dominate in
is rebounding.
Their front court is big, believe they're a top five rebounding team in just about every metric nationally.
Brian is right up there. Obviously, the America East is not the big 10, but still,
Brian's got size that you typically just do not see from an
America East team. You've got a guard in Earl Timberlake that's 6'6", that's going to back
people down and play with his back to the basket. And the thing that I'll point out with Bryant,
because I've been watching this team for years, been watching them since the Jared Grasso days, and then now under Phil Martelli Jr. is they've really cleaned up the game slippage that used to
happen a lot for them. So if you haven't watched Bryant all year, they're going to play insanely
fast. It's all about shot volume for them, just getting shots up. And really, like, so they played my alma mater
first game of the season, they played against Sienna.
And Sienna went into Bryant and upset them
as a 12 point underdog in a game
where Bryant had 24 turnovers.
And getting to watch them play all season,
like the two things they've really cleaned up,
well, they've cleaned up the turnovers
and they've really improved defensively to the point where they're now starting to crack
top 100 on a lot of the analytics sites defensively, which is pretty impressive for them.
Connor Withers has been one of the top defensive players in that conference for a couple of
years now.
Barry Evans came over from St. Bonaventure.
Pinzen was a kid that played at St. John's.
He's been there for a couple of years.
So they've got a lot of upperclassmen.
They've got size.
And it's just like,
that's not typically what you get
from your America East champ 15 seats.
I think Michigan State, if they're not fully like,
sometimes these big schools,
these power conference schools will,
they'll rely on their natural ability, strength
to get by a team like Bryant and they'll start preparing.
So in this case, they'll start prepping
for like New Mexico or Marquette.
I would not be surprised if they were a little shell shocked early in this game, especially
if Bryant's knocking down some shots.
Because like I said, it's more of a shot volume thing for them, but they do have some shot
makers.
And if they're not turning it over, they hit a couple early, get some confidence, they
could very well be in this game. Now from a, from a,
we're talking about spreads from a spread standpoint, 18, 18 and a half, they absolutely
can be in that game. I recall a game they played against St. John's earlier this year.
They covered, I think barely covered. It was like 23 and a half. I believe they lost by
22, but they were pretty competitive in that game. And obviously we know how good St.
John's is now. So I took Bryant plus 18 and a half. I think
18 or 17 and a half is fine. I think they are going to surprise
some people on Friday night. I think they're right in this
game every step of the way.
You said you said St. John's that's a team that I am. I don't
have getting past the first weekend.
I'll be honest with you.
I don't think that team, uh, their, their variance between their
offensive and defensive efficiency is egregious and for them to be a two seat
is, uh, not great.
So I would say, uh, if I was taking this game, I agree with you,
uh, trig, uh, but it'd be interesting to look, look at the first half line
on that one too, but Brian, because I think Brian could kind of shock
them a little bit and then, uh, St.
John's, uh, finds a way to win.
And then they lose to like, I don't know what they got to play.
Mark suggested, just to clarify, this is Brian playing Michigan state.
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I was just referencing the game earlier this year.
Bryant played St.
John's and they covered a big number, but like they really I want to
say Timberlake might have missed that game.
I think they had.
I think Timberlake was out for the St.
John's game.
They still covered 23 and a half and it was like, like more competitive than the final score.
The only reason I brought that game up specifically is that was like a good comparison in my opinion for Bryant Michigan state.
Same same mentality is in this one too, because I think like St. John's in Michigan state are like one of those teams that like they're going to be darlings to a lot of people like to advance into the, uh,
the future rounds, but I think that is the wrong mentality to take.
And St.
John's in Michigan state.
If you want to get Q, I don't think they get past the first weekend, especially.
Uh, I, they might get scares.
And like Triggs said, like in, in that position, Brian could give them a scare,
and then they go to the next round.
They might be finished, who knows?
But yeah.
Real quick, I did want to welcome.
No, no, no, you're good, man.
I just wanted to welcome up, we had StatHole drop in.
I threw up in the Jumbotron your March statness.
So look guys, be sure to check that out.
A lot of good info, stats and information in there.
StatHole, what's going on man?
How are you doing?
Good to have you back.
Oh, hey, thanks.
I'm actually just hopping it.
I'm in the airport here waiting to catch a bus.
And I saw you guys run,
so I figured I'd jump in for a minute
I don't have anything smart. I can add a couple of fun
Kidbits I've been blogging about
You guys want that?
Yeah, sure man, yeah, go ahead anything anything that you wanted to fire in
Okay, so
Tennessee
They didn't make the tournament in 2020.
No one did.
It was COVID in 2021.
They made one game in 2022.
They made two games in 2023, three games.
And last year they made four games.
So I got to pick them to what's that mean?
Make the final four then.
What do you guys think?
Tennessee in the final four and they have to lose it back because it can't
go more than the sequence.
In one of my scenarios, I have Tennessee making the final four.
So, and how did they do?
Well, did they win or no?
Like when the whole, when the whole turn?
No, just, no, just the final four game.
Did they make it to the championship?
Like I said, in one of my scenarios and only have two
Tennessee is in the final four.
Okay.
All right.
I think it's fate.
Um, yeah, that's, uh, I think it's fate.
Yeah, that's one. I don't know. I'm scrolling through some other stuff here.
I don't see any team being Florida.
Is that just the sucker pick at this point,
just seeing how strong that they ended the conference tournament?
Personally, I'm convinced that this tournament's either being won by Auburn,
Houston or Duke.
I don't see how either, if you have those three, I don't think there's a chance it's
any team other than those three.
That's just me.
I think Florida's kind of like Guns are saying.
Teams like Florida, St. John's, I understand there's people out there, Texas Tech, that
have big tickets on them.
Like, I just don't see those teams winning.
Although I would say out of that group, Florida is the most dangerous, I think.
But I truly believe that this is Auburn, Houston, or Duke cutting down the nets.
And I just haven't figured out which one yet.
Yeah.
Do you think, do you think Auburn has slowed down the gas since they kind of, you know, wrap things
up early?
Have they just been kind of coasting the last few games?
Were they one and three in their last four?
Yeah, maybe, but I don't think it's going to matter.
That's a team that lost to Yale on the first day of the tournament last year, the first
round of the tournament.
They are going to come in guns blazing. I think they'll probably just roll through the first weekend. I kind of said all year that they were the best team.
I had that in my head. And then I truly believe Duke with Cooper flag healthy is easily in the
final four. And it'll just be a matter of can they get over the hump against a Houston or an Auburn?
I mean, that's again, I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but that's just kind of how I see it.
Yeah, no, I hear you on Auburn. I guess what I was kind of leaning into your take there in that I kind of feel like they were
letting off the gas a little bit and they're just ready to press it back on
starting, I don't know, they play tomorrow or Friday.
I think it's, I think they play tomorrow and yeah, no, I I think they're gonna be gone, you know
Full throttle as soon as that tournament starts and yes
They they probably were going through the motions a little bit toward the end there for sure. I
Got used yeah For sure. I got used to that. Yeah.
No, I was just, I was going to say, I mean, we kind of had this mentality, right, for weeks, several weeks, if not over a month, that, you know, alright, Auburn and Duke are kind of a cut above, up here at the top, and then everybody else kind of filters in somewhere. You know, there's a second tier below that that certainly is more than capable of cutting down the nets
as well. But it's just, I think it's an interesting point that we, you know, we, you never, you
almost never see a team going in losing three out of their last four, still ending up as
the number one overall seed.
And that's kind of the, the situation Auburn found themselves
in and, you know, say what you will with Cooper flag, you know, they're saying he's healthy.
That may be the case. I don't know. I find it hard to believe it'll be a hundred percent,
but you know, even a little bit down, still the best player in the country, probably even
at, you know, maybe 90, 85%.
But it's just, uh, it's interesting now because these are two teams that, like I
said, I feel like the general consensus was they were a cut above.
Um, and now somehow they both enter with at least some level, some degree of
question marks, uh, entering the tournament, but yeah, go ahead guns.
Well, I'll take off on your point.
I was like, Duke doesn't need a Cooper flag to win the championship.
Uh, they're very talented.
It they're very deep in the guard play, uh, and inside the post, uh, they have,
uh, a guy that is underrated and came in inside. Uh, he's all over the place, uh, defensively, uh, like, uh,
conk nipple, uh, is exceptional and is underrated because he's
overshadowed by Cooper flag.
I mean, Cooper flag is going to play in this tournament, but I don't
think he has to play in the first weekend, but I want to like go back
to what, what we talked about with,
uh, I mean, Houston, like trig said, I think there's value of Houston winning
that winning this tournament.
And even though they have to play Duke in the final four, if you look at the
scenario on this one, I think Houston can match up very well with them.
Cause I think, uh, between Duke and Houston, if you look from the office of
efficiency and the defensive efficiency, they are the best in the country.
Uh, but don't sleep on Texas tech.
Everybody wants to take Florida to go all the way to the final four,
but they had to play Maryland.
They had to play Texas tech.
And I think that is a gauntlet between those two teams.
I think Maryland can kind of match up to them.
Well, even though they don't have the depth on the bench, uh, and then Texas
tech, I mean, they have the big 12 player of the year and topping on that team.
I was like, can we sleep on this guy?
I think Texas tech could get to the final four.
Auburn kind of has the best road, but Duke kind
of has the second best road, even though that's to play Arizona and they have
to play Oregon, maybe, uh, Baylor, uh, to get, uh, to meet Roach again for maybe
a little bit of a revenge angle there for Roach going to get a transfer.
But I think Houston is probably the most value that you can get as far as winning a championship.
And then I like VCU to get to the sweet 16.
Those are the two futures that I like.
Like in this tournament, I'm not really into futures.
I'm more of like bet to bet.
Uh, unless I see a team that is kind of shining in this one in Houston
has the revenge angle in this one in Houston has the revenge angle.
And this one, if you remember, uh, their best player went out against Duke
in the sweet 16, when they had the path that like that team was the best of
the best that they thought and Duke beat them because their best player got hurt
early in the game.
So maybe there's a little bit of a chip on their shoulder on
this team with the Cougars. Uh, Houston has the better story in my opinion.
If you want a story in college basketball, by God, uh, CBS will try to get it.
I like Houston to win, to win this championship.
Lean, uh, Texas tech to win gives it the final four.
I'll come back, circle back to a couple of points that was brought
up, um, a bit earlier, um, specifically with, or, and bring up some futures.
Um, I think boy, both bracket contests and in general, uh, St.
John's is the biggest spade in the tournament.
Um, you're seeing them get picked to it to the fifth most likely
champ or picked champion,
not most likely champion on ESPN brackets and whatnot.
I think that line against Kansas or a potential game against Kansas in round two,
that's gonna be a lot smaller point spread than I think people realize in that one.
Now I think they're gonna absolutely smash Omaha and I'm quite frankly,
I don't have a strong opinion on the Kansas Arkansas game, but took some St. John's no sweet 16 at plus 180 and I know
that's a bit still available at Caesars. That's kind of how I'm attacking it
and then in bracket pools and whatnot like I really like Texas Tech to make
the Elite 8 from that bottom half as a complete fade of St. John's and Sparty's
another team that I'm interested in fading.
I agree with what Adam said on Bryant earlier.
Even that was one I was potentially going to add to the card later tonight and ask the
crew about that game because as I've started to dive in, I've started to like Bryant a
bit more and I'm even kind of thinking about, you know, you talk about some of the fun props
that people like to do with these games is, I think Brian's
a great candidate for like a first to 10 and a plus money.
Or even if you want to get really wild, a first half money
line against Michigan State. But for me, I'll say the I'll take
the first to 10. I guess since I prompted that one, I'll try to
find a price before the end of the show. So I can give out a
price here and a number. But yeah,
I agree with Trig on Bryant and then St. John's no to make sweet 16.
How healthy is Texas tech? Are they like fully good to go?
Yeah. I saw their guys are playing on, on Friday. So that kind of,
that kind of sent me cause I know I've given out Texas tech final for like a
couple, like a month ago on the on this you know the equivalent
space of this and you know I think they're still the best three but yeah
obviously need those guys to be healthy but that's kind of been my go sign that
they say they're good for for this game and it sounds like the vibe I got from
from just reading into is they're kind of like, you know what, big 12
tournament, this is fine, we want to be ready for this tournament.
So I think they're good against Wilmington and then just kind of all the way go through
here.
Perfect takes, by the way.
Agree with all of them.
100%.
And yeah, I do think getting back to what Gunn said, I mean, what a gauntlet
for Florida to have to go through. I mean, entering in as probably the informed team
in the country. I mean, hot as a pistol, right? And just firing on all cylinders. And here
you are with multiple, you know, as far as I'm concerned, multiple Final Four contenders all within your region
that they kind of have to work their way through.
Not to mention, you get, I'm not expecting them to have any difficulties with Norfolk
State, but then you're staring down, say what you will, they've had a disappointing season
at UConn, but it's not like that team doesn't have talent.
It's not like they don't have the pedigree there.
Liam McNeely obviously can ball.
So that's not just like an easy second round matchup right out of the gate.
And then like I said, then you're looking at Maryland, you're looking at Texas Tech,
you're looking at St. John's, you know, not an easy path, really, regardless
of who gets there.
So I feel like that was just a really tough draw for Florida, despite them really being,
I mean, it's hard to find anything else wrong with them at this point or any criticisms of them, weaknesses, uh,
reasons to paid them other than, uh, man, what a tough draw that they ended up with.
Right.
I think it's similar to the, uh, uh, the allure of the sec was like, kind of like
this, you know, getting a lot of the teams into the, uh, the tournament, like last year, Auburn won their conference championship.
And then lo and behold, they lose what the first round I was like, I'm not
saying that Florida is going to lose the first round, but there is a
potential of them losing early.
And I talked about Maryland.
I talked about Texas tech, but like, I mean, they have to face either
Oklahoma or Yukon, uh, in the second round.
So is, does this team really have a path?
Uh, does his team really have the motivation against every single
team going into the tournament against a coach that has his, has their coach.
Had that tournament experience to go far into, uh, the NCAA tournament.
Granted they, they won the SEC tournament, but it's a different
animal when you go against a lot of these teams that are super motivated
to go beat a team that is what top three in the country.
Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Um, yeah. I mean, then like I said, I mean, all those teams are, you know, um, you could, they could realistically face, uh, four of those teams like earth,
you know, three, I guess at least three of those teams, like really difficult matchups.
Um, you know, you could
say, well, St. John's or Texas tech. Well, they're only going to have to play one of
those two, but potentially, I guess. But yeah, you know, it's just a lot of this tournament
obviously is things that, you know, you beat obviously the teams that are laid out in front
of you. But then the other side of that is being able to get a little bit of a
fortune along the way. Maybe somebody gets knocked off.
Maybe your path gets a little bit easier. Uh, but it,
it's hard to see that happening down there in the West region. Um,
but I don't know any other, anybody else have any other, I guess, best bets? Uh,
you know, if we wanted to, we were talking about the UCSD.
I don't know if anybody had any ideas on maybe what the ceiling is there outside of Jordan,
because I know Jordan has them cutting down the nets, right?
100%.
Coach Wright.
But yeah, any other, because I do think Houston a little bit. I mean, that's
that's my pick. That's who I have winning it all. But I think they I don't know. It's so easy to
say there's some oh this team's being overlooked. That team's being overlooked. But yeah, what's up? A team I wanted to bring up and hear your guys' thoughts on is McNeese with Will Wade
agreeing to become the next head coach of NCC.
Like, do we think that this affects the game on Friday?
Like, how does it change the way we would normally handicap?
Because I do think it is a pretty fucking weird situation like I've never heard of a coach
publicly taking a job in the middle of coaching for the tournament
What George I thought this and against his alma mater too, but yeah, go ahead Trey. I just think like he was pretty vocal
He said he's been super transparent about the everything like with his team the whole time
I actually don't hate that like depending on what kind of relationship you have with your players
Like you know what I mean? Like get it out there. They know it's like you got kids leaving constantly
like he said like they've all been super transparent about it and it's like
Wouldn't you rather have that than like them just thinking like, well, he's probably gone after this game.
I don't know.
I kind of was okay with it.
I'm done with, uh, the enamor of, uh, McNeese state by the way.
And by the way, McNeese is not a state, uh, either.
I mean, Clemson kind of matches up to them pretty well.
So I think it's, it's a bad draw yet again for the second year in a
row, uh, to a team that, that everybody goes, Oh, well, it's
a, it's a five versus 12.
They have obviously the 12 asked to win.
I don't think so.
Clemson can play with anybody in the country and, and they beat
Duke don't forget on their home court and this team, what went to the
elite eight last year, if I recall granted PJ hall isn't there anymore,
but this team is well coached.
They, they can win ball games and everybody, the perception is clouded
for the fact that they play in the ACC.
Mind you, everybody said the ACC was weak last year and we saw a
perfect example of how the ACC is not weak when UNC absolutely thumped San
Diego state.
So we have to take that perception out of our mind that the tournament
teams are different
than the regular season teams.
So I think Clemson is in a perfect spot on a short line.
It's a gift.
I love Clemson in this one over McNeese.
Yeah.
I mean, from a matchup perspective, I like Clemson like off the jump to I was just
more so bringing it up just, you know, for the fact that I've really never seen it happen.
But I do agree with Trig, like the transparency I think is is key there.
Yeah, it is bizarre. I know I sent that message in a group text earlier where it was like only will Wade could be, you know, in a press conference basically publicly.
Say I mean, I think it was like the press conference. He said he's like, Yeah, you know, I've talked about it. And then shortly thereafter, it was confirmed.
it was confirmed, which, you know, not, not right.
Like that's, I think that point needs to be made.
Like not everyone could get away with that, but like just, and I obviously
don't know Will Wade personally, but you followed him long enough and it's like.
I feel like he kind of has command of his teams mostly where like that will,
will, will fly for him, but like, yeah, like it should be said that it's like this wouldn't go over well in every
scenario.
But like when you listen to him talk about it, like it seemed like, you know, the way
it was presented, everyone was on the same page and he probably just has that relationship
with his, his players that like some other coaches maybe don't have.
So I don't know, I didn't get like a bad vibe with it.
I got like, you know, there's going to be kids that are that are leaving at the end
of this year too, right?
And they've been transparent about if they intend to leave and go to a different program.
So like the only thing that really matters is not really Wade's relationship with McNeese
or the fans.
Like it's like, you know, I feel like the way I interpret it at least is,
Hey, we, it's one last ride, right?
Like this is it for us.
Like we've had a great season.
We've had a great run and now we get to go play in the NCAA tournament.
So I don't, I don't, I didn't take it as a negative one bit.
Well, Wade was in, uh, uh, college coaching purgatory for what he did.
He was always looking for the opportunity to get up.
So I don't think that the team like was like, oh, you're
going to stay with McNeese.
I don't think that that mentality was ever there.
There was always like, he's one or two years away from, uh,
jumping up to a bigger job.
And then he probably was transparent about that to his, uh,
recruits and his players too.
It's like, but I'm sure that like wherever he job he goes,
the way that the transfer portal works now, you don't have to
sit out a year.
I think he will bring his players to go build his program
and it's going to be fine.
So yeah, I don't think it matters to the team whatsoever as
far as motivation is concerned. Yeah, I don't think it matters to the team whatsoever as far as motivation
is concerned.
Yeah. I think on both cases, right. It's the will Wade where it's a little bit on brand
for him to be doing something like this, like Trig alluded to. And then I think being at
McNeese kind of does change the tone of it a little bit because right, nobody was expecting
him to be like, this wasn't going to be a lifetime contract here.
He was serving his penance.
He was kind of in, you know, in the, in the sin bin and the time had been up, you know,
and anybody who's, I guess, deep into the flight tracker game, they, he, he, reportedly, I guess this visit happened sometime last week or in the
past week and a half. And you could kind of read the tea leaves. I had thought that this
would be, it's probably made the most sense as far as a fit for him when you were looking
at some of the vacancies. But you're right. I, you know, it couldn't be that shocking
from anybody within McNeese state where, you
know, you look on the, uh, on the flip side, West Virginia, their fan base is like melting
down right now.
Uh, they're, you know, they'll, there were, we've been tampered with, you know, trying
to say DeVries was tampered with all season long.
And you know, they, this has been a conspiracy all the way back since Atlantis.
And it's like, okay, you know, some fan bases just get a little crazy and upset, you know.
But I think being at McNeese definitely makes this a little bit different where I think
he could kind of be a little bit more forthright and like, hey, look, guys, I'm taking the
first train out of here.
Let's build something.
Let's have as good of a season as we can.
And then you guys could probably elevate yourselves to some better situations as well.
Yeah, that's like the probably the best point I think you can make.
It's like, for example, like I've got pretty good intel that Ryan Odom's going to go coach
Virginia after this season.
If he announced that, like VCU,
that would not go over well,
because VCU perceives themselves to be like a pretty,
you know, like somewhat of a destination, right?
Like they're a brand in a sense,
like that wouldn't go over well at all, right?
But like in this scenario, I think
like no one's expecting him to retire there. So I do think it's like everything's a case
by case basis. In this case, it just like I think it made way more sense to like get
it out there, get it out in the open, try to do something special with McNeese. And
then like you're leaving the program in a much better place. You found it anyway. So
I don't think anyone's going to be like disappointed in, you know, it's like,
listen, I went to Sienna, like we've dealt with this for, for, you know, pretty
much throughout the history of our program, where it's like, that's kind of
the nature of the beast, someone as soon as Jerry McNamara has success, he's
probably going to go somewhere else.
And it's like, I think it just works better for all parties in that
scenario if you know, it's, it's, they're upfront about it.
Yeah.
This situation is a little bit more tainted than a coach like losing
in a tournament game and then leaving.
I mean, the, uh, DeVries is he went to West Virginia.
He left, uh, he left Drake and he brought his son with him.
And then all of a sudden his son goes, uh, injury so he can get
redshirted to get another year.
And knowing that on the sheer fact that there was talks between Indiana
and it, and DeVries in that position.
And I think there was a whole entire season where he knew he was going
to have the Indiana job and he just decided to make the move.
They didn't even have it.
They didn't play in the NIT or, or any of the other tournaments after like
being on the cusp of, of, uh, making the, uh, NCAA tournament, it just red flags all over the place.
And of course the governor like going nuts, probably had something to do with it too.
Um, which was, uh, not necessary, but that this one just reeks of, uh,
collusion and, and, and everything else that this, this was planned ahead
even prior to the season really starting for West Virginia.
Oh, wow.
So you, you buy into those to some of that, uh, narrative,
I guess on the sheer fact that like that, that I think the sun could
be used as the prime indicator.
Like as soon as like talks happen, he goes,
Oh, my shoulder hurts knowing that if he was out for the year, he would have
a another year of eligibility to go to Indiana.
I would think there, there is, I w I would say sheer speculation at this point,
but there is a, an eyebrow raised on my end that there is some, uh,
weird collusion happening there.
Uh, even though that West Virginia kind of had this great year, but without
a very good player on that roster on some T T T T P S to your point though,
guns, yeah, even though Indiana had a decent year, they, they pretty much had
Woodson out the door, like early in the season, right?
Like that.
Yeah.
That's what I mean.
So they were already looking for the replacement.
They knew like what the Maui invitational was it, was that the tournament
that the, uh, the Atlantis, the battle for Atlanta, the battle of the lands.
Okay.
So yeah, they, they already renew their coaches out the door and they're
looking for the replacement right off the gate and that is very smart for
Indiana to go in like, uh, uh, maybe even ask a couple of questions.
Like, do you want to be here or not?
And of course, like, uh, coaches, like every coach when they get signed
to, to a team is going to say like, yeah, I plan on
being here forever. It's like, they should put an asterisk there until I
get a bag.
I kind of buy it a little bit guns. I also think that like, I don't think
it's like crazy to think that degrees would do that because I heard, I heard
rumors that polo Dacus was going to do that for Yale and then maybe had a little
bit of a change of heart or once it became pretty obvious that Yale could win the Ivy
pretty easily this year.
Because if you go back to the middle of December, Poloakis was randomly out for three weeks, just like whatever. It was
injury or whatever. Someone I know that's pretty tuned into the IV was like, yeah, he's going to
see if he can get a medical redshirt to transfer somewhere else. Because you talk about a guy like
Polidakis like he really
theoretically could have left Yale last year when Danny Wolf went to Michigan and Matt
Nolan went to USC. He would have landed somewhere comparable probably if he wanted to and then I
guess all of a sudden like you know a little bit in Ivy League play he was back out there so I
wonder if he like tested the idea and
maybe he didn't get you know because they don't have to give it to you right
like that's the other thing right like I think the NCAA would have to like
approve you know another year in some cases but it's not great like it's not
a crazy thought like that you've come up with here it kind of makes sense.
Isn't Poole Dickey still doesn't he still have a year of grad eligibility left?
Yeah, well that's another good point Jordan. I wonder if he just said, you know what, like,
I'll finish this year out and I can go somewhere for one year instead of two.
Like, that makes sense. But if you go back, like, there was a three-week stretch where he straight up just was not in practice, did not play in games.
And someone had told me that he was considering the idea of shutting it down for the season.
And then, of course, he obviously didn't because he's been out there ever since.
But you got to start to think like that.
Think about it from the player standpoint, right?
Like that that's a serious like earning.
I mean, if you can like somehow squeak another year somehow, you can make a couple hundred
grand in some cases, right?
Or like whatever you can make in NIL.
So like that's it's an interesting point because it's going to be in the in some of these players
best interest to like do that if they can, it's just,
maybe he just didn't get a four, 4.0.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, that's exactly what happened.
If you look at the timeline where everything happened, and I think, uh,
Indiana was in that tournament in the battle of Atlantis too, by the way.
So I think that, yeah, they were, they of Atlantis too, by the way. So I think the top of the world.
Yeah, they were.
They had a very horrific going.
But regardless, I do think that there maybe is some legs to things like this happening
more.
Because, you know, look, we've always like the, the thing always used to be like
these conversations happen. These, the coaches could say, Oh, well, I haven't had any conversations
because the agent would handle it all year long. They're kind of taking the calls, handling the
conversations through the back channels. And that was always the way it was done. Well, now you're,
you know, now that these coaches kind of bring, they're able to uproot some of their roster and take
it with them with the flexibility of NIL now, because you know, when you used to have to
sit out, I guess never that never really happened quite as much.
But now I think that they can take these guys along with them.
You know, in football and basketball, we're seeing it more and more where, hey, you know, in football and basketball, we're seeing it, uh, more and more where,
Hey, you know, who else is coming?
Um, his son obviously was always going to go wherever he went.
It's not like his son was going to go, was going to play elsewhere, but, uh, yeah, I,
man, I don't know.
I, uh, like I said, I was a little dismissive of it at first when there was just a lot of
whining from Morgantown. But maybe there is something
to it. And I wouldn't be surprised for that type of stuff to happen maybe a little bit
more often from time to time. Because like I said, it's so important now that when you
go somewhere, you don't have that, hey, well, let him get a couple of years to build and get some of his recruits in here.
Right.
You always had a little bit of security there where you could say, well, it's
going to take him two to three years to get his recruits in here.
Well, now you got to bring those guys right away on day one.
You got to hit the portal and get those guys in the door.
So I don't know.
That's, uh, it's interesting.
That's the nature of the NIL era is transfers.
You get them immediately.
Look at me.
I mean, I like I keep bringing on Michigan.
Look what Michigan is like.
Oh, shit, we got to bring in our FAU coach comes in immediately.
He goes, I got to fill in roster right now.
I got to get Danny Wolf.
I got to go bring Vlad from my previous team.
I gotta bring in guys that know how to play in tournament play.
So sometimes you have to kind of like, and look at Duke.
Duke was never a significant transfer guy.
They were always bringing in recruits.
They did both this year.
They not only brought in a ton of freshmen, they realized they
were very young because only proctor came back, they started, they
bring in a guy from Purdue that went to a national championship.
They bring, they bring in guys that, that will fill in the roles
and be the leadership in this team.
And I think the evolution of the NIL, everybody's like, Oh, this stinks.
I think a lot of teams will just adapt and just realize that this is,
this is how the game is right now.
It is a little bit of a detriment to the mid majors.
I will say that.
And even with college football, it's the same type of element
is like they're just a farm system for the major leagues.
So the mid majors like and listen, like I'm a mid major
guy, right?
Like I went to like my team is Sienna and we've had guys like Jalen Pickett, JVM McCollum.
There's a laundry list of dudes that got poached from our program since this was a thing.
And it's like, the other, but the flip side of it is, you know, you can
get a guy like, like I'll give you like, I mean, like Tarleton State got Antoine Grimes
this year, right? Like back in the old days, like he's, he's stuck on the bench at Baylor.
Like maybe he transfers, maybe he doesn't, but you're probably not going to get a caliber
of player like that as like a sophomore to come to a
place like Tarleton.
So it's like, you know, I guess it kind of goes both ways.
Like you get a guy that falls out of favor.
Suddenly they're like, okay, like I'm going to go, maybe I want to go play closer to home.
It's easy to do.
Like Sienna very well might get a 6'11 big from Iowa that that's a cap, you know, a
capital region guy that went out to play for Fran McCaffrey
that wants to come home.
So it's like, it's not necessarily like crushing
to the mid-majors, but it's crushing in the sense
that like, you're just not gonna get the mid-major teams.
Like, let's say like when I was at Siena
and we had Ronald Moore and Kenny Hasbrook
and like Alex Franklin, Edwin Ubelies, like
all there for four years, winning back to back to back, you know, titles, going to the
NCAA tournament three years in a row.
Like that's what it kills for the mid-majors.
It doesn't necessarily mean you can't like put together a team that can win.
It's just, you know, you're not just going to get those like four-year teams, the bunch
of seniors that have, at the mid major level that have success.
Because as soon as they have success, people are going to pick them up.
Yeah, I agree.
I'll throw one more pick out there though.
Like we'll get back to you want to get back to talking games like.
Yeah, sorry.
I didn't mean to derail
Yeah, yeah, so I I've got I've got to get out of here around 1030, but I've got one more so I
Played one more that I played already
Is Grand Canyon I took the 11 and a half I would still take 11 or 10 and a half. I
think that they've got the size and the physicality to hang around with Memphis here. I think
Tyron Grant Foster being back to 100% is huge. My gut knowing what I know about this program
and stuff tells me that they really sort of put you know, put like they just kind of like,
I don't want to say they like gave him the last couple weeks of the regular season off,
but like I don't think there was any sort of like rush to get him back. He didn't play
from February 15th until the WAC tournament. He also had some off the court stuff going
on earlier this year. So I don't think you ever really saw like the tie on Grant Foster
that we all saw last year in the NCAA tournament go off against St. Mary's and, and, you know, nearly
pull the upside over Alabama. I don't know that you really saw him until this last weekend
in Vegas at the whack tournament when grand Canyon showed up, covered all three games,
beat Utah Valley to get, to get the auto bid. But you want to talk about Maryland,
not much of a bench there.
If Grand Canyon can get them into file trouble a little bit,
match physicality, which we know Grant Foster can,
he's a six, seven guard, so he certainly can.
They also have a bunch of seniors that,
bunch of upperclassmen, they're well-coached. They defend like when Grand Canyon is playing at their, at their, their
best, like they're a pretty good defensive team.
They're very, very capable. Like if you want to talk about like, you know, just going back
to the beginning of the season, I mean, there were people, and I thought this was crazy
at the time, but there were people that were like, this is a top 25 team.
And I was like, well, they're not, but like, they're still like a pretty capable solid
basketball team.
Then what happened was they lost a couple of non-conference games.
They kind of went through the motions in whack play.
They didn't win the whack and everyone kind of forgot that this team was like a couple
minutes from a sweet 16 last year
and they're, they're still a very similar team. Same coach. I like, there's no reason
they can't go out and beat Maryland. I think Maryland's very overrated. I've kind of said
this all year. They, Maryland does a lot well, like they're, they don't have any glaring
weaknesses, but, but I don't really think Maryland is elite at anything.
And I just think if Grand Canyon can get into that bench somehow, maybe get someone in the
foul trouble, get into that bench, they'll have a real chance to win this game. But 11 and a half,
that was a no-brainer to me.
Damn, Trigg, I'm on the other side. I like Maryland in that game.
I took a minus 10 when it got down to 10.
I made the game like about 12 and a half.
I do agree that if they get into foul trouble,
it could be an issue, but I mean, their size,
that's one thing about Grand Canyon this year,
they're not very big. Duke Brennan, he's 6'10",'s one thing about Grand Canyon this year. They're not very big in like Duke Brennan
He's 610, but he is like his t-rex arms like he's not really long
He doesn't really do anything. Well, he's a good rebounder
But like he's not gonna he's not gonna get Julian Reese and Derek Queen into foul trouble
and I just think it's gonna be it's gonna be difficult for them because they're gonna have to double Derek Queen and it's gonna leave
it's gonna be it's gonna be difficult for them because they're gonna have to double Derrick Queen and it's gonna leave
Gillespie and Rice and Miguel open for threes and the one thing that Grand Canyon is not good at is shooting like they're
284 and the country and three-point shooting and they can't get into a game where they're trading two-point baskets or free throws for threes and
I think that could get them in trouble
So being objective that is my that is my main concern.
Like that that would be my main concern is like, you know, just obviously
I like Grand Canyon, I played 11 and a half, but trying to stay objective.
Like, that's a really good point, like a good counterpoint.
They haven't shot the ball yet.
Well, this year, a lot of that came like earlier in the season.
Tyon, Grant Foster couldn't hit anything like it was like the dude straight up
forgot how to make a jumper.
And there was also points in time where the rest of the team was kind of looking
just like I felt like they were just waiting for him to like do something.
Like it was like it reminded me of of Syracuse last year, where they would just
like watch Judamint's
play and then there was like four other dudes on the court like just kind of waiting for
him to cook and do something.
That I feel like has improved over the course of the season.
But you are correct.
Like Grand Canyon offensively is not as good as they were last year and they don't have
like knockdown shooters.
So that would be the undoing.
I'll agree with you there.
If they go colder, they can't make shots.
Like you'll probably see Maryland up 10.
I just thought like 11 and a half.
I guess for additional context, I made it nine.
So 11 and a half and you know, just also betting on the fact that like, I feel like I've seen
a little bit of a shift from them from whack play to
Like the team we saw in the whack tournament
I'm trying to catch them on the uptick a little bit
But yeah, that will be their undoing if they're not knocking shots down. They will be down double digits
To your point with Tom Grant Foster to
Tree like he wasn't even really that good in the whack tournament like they they really won that tournament because Harrison and Coles played
Really well, which I think which good for them going forward in the tournament because you know
Tyron Grant Foster obviously has the ability to play really well
Yeah, he didn't he didn't produce from an offensive standpoint, but he played hard
He got boards and like that's like one guy that's got size for his position
got boards and like that's like one guy that's got size for his position.
Like he'll give someone on Maryland trouble.
Like his physicality can like he could potentially get one of the guards in trouble in foul
trouble but I see I do see your point with like clean in that front court maybe being
a little bit too much.
Can they pull away by more than 10?
I suppose we'll see.
I still like my position at 11 and a half, but you know, you make some good points.
I hate being on opposite sides of you brother. You know that
Maybe we'll lay hey we can land 11. I'd take that maybe we'll just land 11 and we'll both win. There we go. Love that
Maryland's gonna thump them. Sorry trick
I do like the I mean I'm just big high on very high on Maryland. I like their balanced
Scoring I like that they can have a lot of different guys that can contribute it was
different guys that can contribute. It was very concerning to me how well Michigan just
very concerning to me how
kind of got to the rim at will. And I'm not just talking about the, the bigs. I mean,
their guards were really just kind of just driving through the paint and getting to the
basket whenever they wanted. And not to read too much into just that one game, but it was
a little concerning, but I don't know, they could clean that up.
Um, I mean, I think I would love to see that, uh, Maryland, Florida matchup.
Um, so I'm hoping that we can get that one, but, uh, I don't know.
It's, um, it's hard to know this Maryland.
They've kind of, I don't want to say they've kind of flown under the radar all
year, cause they haven't quite done that, but they haven't really been, I don't know that a lot of people have considered
them as a title contender, but I think they're very good.
They're very, very, they're deep, good, talented, big.
They don't turn the ball over a whole lot.
So I think they're well-coached with Kevin Willard,
but I don't know.
I can't wait.
I don't know how I'm going to get to sleep tonight
with these games tomorrow.
But I appreciate everybody that came.
I know we had a couple of guys that couldn't make it
last minute.
But thanks to everybody who did make it.
Thanks to everybody who came by to listen to this, who actually wants to talk sports
betting.
That's what we like to do here.
The next couple of nights, we're going to be having some late night, just kind of open
up the room, kind of when those later, later games tip off, chop it up, just kind of mix
up, hey, look what we saw today, what we're looking at tomorrow.
Um, a little bit more open ended, you know, just kind of, uh, hanging out,
talking ball, like, uh, almost like sports bar style, I guess.
Um, but yeah, one last go around the panel.
If anybody else, um, had anything else they wanted to throw in there before
we, uh, ride off into the night.
I got one to give out to the people.
I got to get, I got to, I have to give out a dog and gave out some favorites here,
but we got to talk about Troy versus Kentucky at Milwaukee, Wisconsin at seven
on Friday, give me a Friday play over Thursday.
Uh, what do you know about you?
Uh, Kentucky, their strength is their offense. They their eighth and offensive efficiency, but they're going against
a, uh, Troy defense that their strength is their defense.
There's 31st and opposing field goal percentage, 53rd and turnover
percentage or seventh in steals, but they're 292nd in rebounds, but that's okay.
Their defense can test shots.
Then you got to look at the offensive side for Troy.
Under 52nd in offensive efficiency.
They are susceptible of turnovers and feel good percentage,
but they're good on the boards.
There's six in the country in offensive rebounding, and they're
pretty decent in terms of getting to the line.
They're 49th in the country in free throw attempts per game.
Then you got to look at this toy team.
They're just red hot going into the tournament, and I keep bringing this up. country in free throw attempts per game. Uh, then you got to look at this Troy team.
They're just red hot going into the tournament. And I keep bringing this up.
It's like just back.
These teams that are playing red hot Troy, uh, of course one, the gun belt.
I don't call it the sun belt.
It is my conference because I own this conference.
And this is one of the teams that I picked to win the conference.
Boom bang pal.
Guess what happened?
Troy one, they're eight, one straight up an ATS in the last night games. of the teams that I picked to win the conference. Boom, bang, pow. Guess what happened? Troy won.
They're 8-1 straight up in ATS in the last nine games.
And then you go look at Kentucky on this one.
It has underperformed in this spread position there.
4-9 ATS as a favorite of less than 12 points.
And they're 2-6 ATS in non-conference games.
I own the Sunbell.
It is my conference.
And I know when my teams can win and you have a double
digit dog here.
If you want to pick a team that can beat a team that is above and beyond
here as a, as an upset special, it's going to be Troy.
It's not going to be the high point.
It's not going to be me.
State it's not going to be these teams that every pundit on the planet
ESPN CBS Sports and anybody is going to be talking about.
Nobody's talking about Troy the Trojans.
This team is going to win, but we're going to play the spread to be safe on this one.
Give me Troy plus three eleven and a half as the play.
Love that.
I know there are some guys, um, I think maybe Bob or Jordan, somebody
wasn't throwing out an under for that game too, as well.
Uh, but did I miss that guys?
Or I feel like one of you guys was talking about it, liking
an under with Detroit UK game.
So the, which, you know, look, if on a big dog, that's, uh, would be correlated.
Right.
Yeah.
And in season, if you call it the sunbelt, I, how dare you, it is the gun belt.
I own that conference.
I don't think I've lost a bet in the sunbelt.
I mean, sorry, the gun belt is mine now.
And, and also I win every single bat in, in my conference as well in football.
And, and I also, I win every single bat in, in my conference as well in football.
So if you fall, if I say it's my conference, you listen and you take Troy.
Yeah.
Jordan, I discussed the under, um, on Sunday night.
It's not one I've placed yet.
Uh, still look into it undecided on the side too.
Um, but do Troy was a team that I was interested in, uh, coming out of the
conference tournament, seeing who they matched up against still trying to
figure out if I want to back them against Kentucky here, if that's, if
it's the right matchup or not.
They matched up with a team that stinks in the tournament, by the way, in
Kentucky. I know Calipari is not there anymore, but no different.
I really hope, speaking of Calipari, just on a side note, I really, really want the Calipari
Patino matchup in round two. And I know I was upset. I was hoping to get, because last Wednesday we had, um, between Tommy and,
uh, uh, I can't remember.
There was two Italians going at it that were, um, really upset about
John Calipari and saying he was a disgrace to Italians everywhere.
their fingers and waving at you and yelling a lot.
What was that?
How it was working.
It was Mark.
Yeah.
It was Mark Zeno.
Furious.
Mark.
Oh man.
He was Mark's my guy.
He was furious with Calipari and how that game ended in the SEC tournament,
which they won, but did not cover in that second half meltdown of theirs.
And then there was the whole, you know,
telling them to miss the free throw and he banked it.
It was just, he's like, yeah, it's, it's,
there's no balance. I love Mark, man.
Mark's good.
I talk to him all the time.
So yeah, they were throwing around, I don't know, some different
Italian slurs that I was unfamiliar with previously.
It's like I'm Irish.
Why are you doing that to me?
Yeah. Yeah. No, it was entertaining.
But yeah, I would love to see that match up round two.
So I'm sure we won't get it.
Sure. We'll get Bill Self greasing his way into the second round.
But I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.
Bob Jordan, any closing thoughts that you guys have before we wrap?
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A chance to win a few bucks there um best of luck to everyone it's the best weekend of the year um
with march madness i know uh just watching 12 hours of college basketball
for four straight days here and then we'll get a couple day reprieve
um before we get into the sweet 16 and lead eight the following week
uh excited to do the reaction show spaces over the weekend.
We'll probably, we'll be going this time
the next four nights as well.
But I guess like Zach said,
kind of a call in show ish vibes
where it's gonna be a little bit more casual,
a little more fun.
Yeah, we'll probably discuss in preview
a little bit of the matchups that get, we'll probably discuss in preview a little bit
of the matchups that get
decided um and maybe give out
some betting, you know,
nuggets if uh but yeah, just
just going to have some fun on
the space. So, keep joining us
throughout the rest of the
weekend and wall to wall
coverage of the tournament and
uh best luck to everyone and
all your bets. This was uh
great information as always and thanks to everyone for listening and and of course all our speakers
great information um as always
and thanks to everyone for uh
yeah for sure and you know check them out you know bob does a newsletter or wolf sports jordan
does a wolf letter or newsletter i should say uh talking college hoops um if you're not you
should subscribe to both of those check out guns you, this guy does a lot of content. I threw up in the jumbotron his video, his stream on his YouTube from earlier today. You know, some three free bangers, as he likes to say. So check him out as well. Yeah, guns. We'd love to have you if you had time over the next few nights to just slide by slide through, um, feel free.
Uh, we didn't really do like a full organized panel the way that we normally
do for, because, uh, you know, like I said, we were just kind of experimenting,
trying out a little, um, late night vibes with the way this opening weekend goes.
Uh, but yeah, if you, um, if you're hanging out, we'd love to have you come
chop it up for a little bit.
Oh yeah.
I'll be checking it out though.
I appreciate, uh, all the support and, uh, you invite me on as well.
But like, uh, YouTube is, is the spot, uh, guns picks underscore channel.
Uh, go check that out.
Uh, like Zach said, uh, I do, uh, three plays per day, especially
when college basketball is going on.
And of course, uh, I'm going to be doing a MLB content once we get like deeper
into the season, once I have a little bit of data, but this is like prime time
for me, uh, when I have the data and I know the teams, uh, especially well.
So, uh, let's cast some tickets.
Let's dominate the ball.
Let's keep dancing.
But bang.
Yeah, and we're going to have to get you back to do another reprise of one shining
moment whenever we're wrapping up the tournament.
I'll memorize that song from from start to finish.
Do I will. I will.
Yeah, for anybody who missed it,
make sure that you get back and check out Gahn's rendition,
a fabulous rendition really of one shining moment
to kick off the show for us.
So we appreciate that.
Hell yeah.
But yeah, guys, I guess that's all for tonight that we have now that the ball is tipped.
We move forward.
We are running for our lives, right?
So often running tipped off tomorrow night or tomorrow, noon Eastern ish, we will all
be locked in for full day, four days straight of doing nothing
but watching college ball, right?
So thanks again, everybody.
Check us out over the next few days
and we will see you then.
Thank you. .
