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Market Talk- HUGE MOVE for BTC and crypto incoming!? How to prepare!?
Recorded: May 28, 2025 Duration: 1:26:21Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, crypto enthusiasts expressed bullish sentiments about the market's growth potential, highlighting NVIDIA's stock surge, the S&P 500's upward trend, and the anticipation of significant price movements in Bitcoin and altcoins. The conversation also touched on the importance of patience and strategic investment in navigating the current market dynamics.
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I hope you're all doing fantastic.
I am watching the earnings right now, and NVIDIA has gapped up to the yearly open,
which is at about $141 per share.
So now we have the S&P 500 and the Q's, I think even the IWM now, all green year to date.
And we've been discussing on this show that once equities catch up to the huge rally that the crypto markets have experienced over the last weeks,
that is when you're about to see some insane price action. And I'm sure you guys caught
yesterday's space in the title, you know, talking about a pullback before an absolute send fest.
And right now, I think it's day two of the Bitcoin conference, which some not really pleasing things came out of that conference, including Michael Saylor saying
that he refuses to have a public on-chain wallet that people know about in regards to
MSTR's holdings, which I'm sure if any of you have done some research on what occurred
after the dot-com bubble crash in 2000 and 2001, MSTR MicroStrategy, which now is called
Strategy, underwent one of the largest bankruptcy filings in modern day history when it comes
to a publicly traded company going through a multitude of headwinds.
But either way, I digress.
I really hope nothing bad actually happens to to micro strategy
as a lot of people would be hurt and it would probably cause btc to nuke by like 30 35 if uh
if mstr were to actually go down just out of fud alone but either way fud is probably going to come
and go uh cycle after cycle There's always some huge tail risk
to this market. Last market, it was FTX. Cycle before that, it was BitConnect and a ton of ICOs
that rate a ton of Bitcoin and ETH, which if any of you have been here since the 2017 cycle,
you'll know how brutal Q4 of 2018 was for the bullss but either way guys price action across the board in crypto
is kind of choppy on chain you'll always have volatility i'm sure there's like some random
shitter that went to like 15 mil 20 mil market cap as as there's always is right uh for q1 of
last year there were a ton of senders that went to like 50 mil, 40 mil while this market was continuously nuking.
But overall, markets in a little bit of a bearish chop solidation as it's very typical as it is whenever we have these Bitcoin conferences.
We remember last year in late July, market locally topped shortly before the conference, and then we had some bear drop followed by a big drop.
Same thing occurred in 2023.
We kind of rallied into it, some bear drop during the days of the conference, and then there was an impending nuke that occurred within a week and a half. If we do see a drop occur in this market, ladies and gentlemen, do not be discouraged as it is
quite literally the bat signal for the melt-up to continue, right? So we've covered the S&P 500
from 4,800, the absolute bottom tick, all the way pushing towards 6,000. Both myself and Donnie
have been talking about 5,800 to 6,000 as targets since those bottoms and new highs for BTC, which both have happened.
And typically, whenever you have such an exuberance in price action, corrections do occur, but it's definitely not the indication of the finale of a trend, right?
We even see some leaders like Farcoin and Hyperliquid
going into some consolidation, right?
I think hype is truly going to shock people on how high it's going
to go into the top seven or even top five, right?
We look at other projects like Solana or even BNB,
which are really struggling right now to have an identity,
right? We have Solana not really benefiting from all the pump fund stuff that used to go on. Many
people are not really trying to bid anything on Sol. It's as if the participants that survived
the onslaught from Q1 of this year have just decided collectively
to just bid BTC in majors, right?
The barbell strategy seems to be Hyperliquid, Farcoin, perhaps even SPX 6900.
I've been looking at that one again over the last two, three days.
And of course, BTC, right?
Ethan Sol will have their time most definitely later this year when indices go into price discovery.
But for now, people seem to want to catch some juice on these leading names, right?
And we also have virtuals, which has caught a massive bid.
The thing is up like 6, 7x after having their revenue depleted by 98%. And funny enough, the Believe app, right,
which LaunchCoin is attached to,
has essentially gone under a full cycle of revenue fees
just how Virtuals did.
Virtuals was making a ton of money in December of 2024.
And then within like a month and a half,
it was making zero in revenue.
And within a blink and a half, it was making zero in revenue.
And within a blink of an eye, Virtuals is now rebranded.
And they have this huge flywheel system that Prometheus told me about, I think it was like two weeks ago.
And it's up like 30 plus percent.
I think you said it on this space.
And it seems to be one of the few names in the AI sector which have a huge possibility of coming back.
And if we're in the cusp of NVIDIA having an incredible summer, which myself and a few other people that have been a part of this show definitely do agree that markets are going to have a fantastic summer, then something like a virtuals does have a huge possibility of going into price discovery, right?
So either way, y'all, that's my opening statement.
I hope you are all having a fantastic morning, afternoon, evening, wherever you are.
Welcome back to Market Talk brought to you by Because Bitcoin.
I'm your host, Wabi.
I'm here joined by Donnie, Prometheus, and Paulos.
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pass it on over to donnie donnienie, what's going on, brother?
It really seems like the market makers have blessed us with another consolidation phase, right?
Pretty similar to when we broke through 88K.
We kind of consolidated for a bit at like 92 to 96. And then we had that huge breakout day
where BTC rallied from 97 and smashed through 100K.
And we have now been well above 100K
for the Bitcoin price for almost three weeks now.
This is urgent.
And this is honestly a series of emergency spaces
because when these prices take their next leg up, people are truly going to regret not accumulating as much as they can and doing whatever they can to accumulate crypto after these prices actually melt up.
And I'm talking 30% daily gain on ETH and SOUL saying where's the pullback where's the pullback
and they start drying their boxes for little pullbacks and quite frankly the time to do that
was probably a thousand trading sessions ago the market doesn't really owe us anything man but
nonetheless brother how are you feeling man if you want to kind of expand about what we talked
about yesterday right where you know we all say you the cycle's over, the cycle has one more leg up, and it's time to
walk away, when in reality, right, we look at something like the dollar, we take a look at
how monetary policy is shifting in the U.S. There are a lot of signs that are pointing to not only
an extended cycle, but perhaps an echo bubble of what
we saw in 2020 2021 with these excessive valuations especially with what's going on in
tradfire right we have companies like palantir which have honestly blown up and it's probably
going to be a part of uh of uh of of what fang stocks were for Gen Xers.
And things like Palantir are probably going to be catching up
to Google's valuation in like 10 years.
But either way, I think I got kind of off topic there
and kind of yapped a little bit more, man.
But what's going on, brother?
How are you?
And thanks for coming back on the show.
These urgent spaces um have
hopefully helped many many many people secure some runway man yeah good to be back on the show um
yeah it feels like we're pretty much uh nearing the final stage of patience i would say for the
market to go a little bit higher again Again, in my view right now,
there's no reason for people to be risk-off
in markets in general
other than things that are kind of like,
I don't know, you could label them
as like black swan related, right?
If Trump all of a sudden just started
going full force with tariffs again,
which I think is extremely unlikely,
then that could obviously spend uh
send the market spiraling back down but you know they've made it very clear that that's not what
they want to push right so again there's still it just seems like there's no reason to be out of the
market yet other than these weird uh you know uncertainties that to be honest have have been
made pretty evident that they're not going to occur anyway.
I just shared in the nest just like four charts that I've basically been monitoring
to kind of get the confirmation of bags go higher fast.
And, you know, it's just looking good.
The Trump admin wants to, you know, push growth and stimulate.
They're going to have to stimulate to push growth, right?
Liquidity is needed for the long-end bond market globally
and shifting this whole new trade policy, right?
So more money is going to be printed.
You're in the asset that is essentially
the greatest hedge against what's going on.
Gold has already done its massive rally up.
We know BTC lags gold. I don't know. It's just
these little local pullbacks. It's so weird how they get very noisy when the bigger picture has
literally not changed and it just keeps getting better every week or so. Even today, we had solid
earnings on NVIDIA. It's like gapping up post-market. It's looking good. Macro data is
still resilient, right? There's no massive unemployment or anything like that. Everything
is still robust. So I don't know. I feel like there's a big, long capitulation coming. And
Scott Besson did mention those SLR exemptions over summer. So I would think it's going to happen in
the earlier stages of summer rather than later. So that's June, July, and August. I would think it's going to happen in the earlier stages of summer rather than later.
So that's June, July, and August. I would think it will happen sooner just because of
this long-end bond market stress. If it keeps pushing above the 10-year, if it keeps
poking its head above 4.6, 4.5, and potentially even starts to climb a little bit higher,
I think that's going to really get things rolling. So yeah, it's these little scary things that are actually ending up being
liquidity positive events that are just going to goose the market higher. So large money,
they like to wait for 100% certainty and confirmation of these things. But again,
this incremental confirmation is just
going to be at higher prices. So if you're positioned, if you bought, added at the lows
or whatever, I think even though altcoins are struggling a little bit right now, I think you're
sitting pretty and you just have to be patient. What are you going to do? Are you going to sell
before a macro expansion? No. You're going gonna take this risk in this risk market and hopefully
you win and i think you know the win is coming so anyway looking at these um charts like right now
i'm pretty impressed with eth even with uh the local weakness on btc which i think it's just
going for like a liquidity sweep or just a retest of demand these little these little consolidations on BTC that we've had this entire leg up,
the first one was nine days. The second one was 15 days. And then the third one was about
12 days. So right now from the top, from I think we hit almost 112 or whatever,
we've been quote unquote consolidating for five days, right?
So even just taking the period of consolidations that we've had recently, we're still only
like halfway through this sort of mini consolidation pullback, whatever you want to call it, if
we're basing it off the last three moves.
So again, you just need like a little bit more patience because the bigger picture still
looks insane.
But yeah, even with that local weakness on BTC, ETH is like looking super strong,
right? BTC is going lower, but so is Bitcoin dominance, which is, you know, an interesting
sign of if Bitcoin does sneeze higher and even just breaks that 112 again, you're going to have
ETH cross a very significant level on the chart, right? And that's obviously positive for your
old coin bags. You know, Bitcoin dominance starting to roll just over 64%. There's
some supply areas up there. It's still within the range and it's looking to roll because Ether is
looking strong. And then you look at ETH BTC. I've said the trigger for this whole thing is 0.03 ETH
BTC, the weekly market structure break. If you see those red circles that I put up on the ETH BTC chart,
it's looking very similar to that 2017 setup, right? And I do know that if BTC does go for
this big push towards 121.30, ETH is just going to absolutely rip. You can tell by the local
weakness and that ETH BTC chart. It's just really ready to go. So yeah, I think just be a bit more
patient. Literally, I think if you could close your eyes and wake up in any time span between now and September,
you're probably going to be like,
whoa, how did that happen to my bags?
So I don't know.
It doesn't really matter where your current altcoins go.
It matters where they're headed, right?
Things can triple, quadruple overnight from a low point
if they do dip a little bit lower, right?
That's just how a quote-unquote bull run begins. Slow, slow, then all at once, like every single time.
So, you know, I have absolutely zero fear in my voice of what's happening. And, you know,
I'm just waiting to see more things confirmed to see how high and how long this rally can go,
right? If they do start announcing all these stimulative things
for the market,
which I think they are
because they're wanting to push 6.6% GDP.
There's no other way to do it
other than stimulate and go for it.
It's looking like this rally
could last a lot longer
than what people are expecting
because people are looking to cash out
in the next month or two.
And cycle top kind of thing. 120, 130, max 140 BTC. people are expecting because people are looking to cash out in the next month or two, right? And
like cycle top kind of thing, you know, 120, 130, max 140 BTC. But if they're doing a very big
monetary expansion, right? In the US, subsequently, the dollar goes lower and the whole, you know,
global economy has to, you know, do the same thing kind of, well, that's going to last a long time,
not two to three months. By the time that liquidity even comes, you know, is same thing kind of well that's going to last a long time not two to three months by the time that liquidity even comes you know is drawn into the market is a three four month lag
right and if it continues from that point well you're looking at 2026 you know so i don't know
it's just i saw i saw a really good sub stack the other day from uh what's his name geordie
viscer he was basically just talking about how over time, you know, with technological advancements and all this kind of thing,
and you know, you can feel it even just anecdotally, if you think about it,
things are just speeding up, right? This whole like three-year bear market thing,
it's kind of like a washed concept. Like you were talking about, Wabi, how, you know,
prices just went lower very quickly, right? Things are just speeding up.
We have literally AI on an exponential curve, all of these things, right?
So yeah, what we went through the last few months or so, it literally feels like a spit
up bear market.
And then you're looking at the macro side of things.
This is where the expansion begins.
I just don't see how this market finishes up in two to three months unless
there is some sort of, you know, unforeseen nuke, which is just going to be, you know,
bailed out by the Fed anyway, right?
If there's some sort of economic breakdown or something like that.
Well, you know, we saw what happened with COVID.
They're going to do a massive, you know, stimulus package.
You know, after three, four months, bags are going to be back to where they were,
if not higher.
So yeah, however you look at this,
there's kind of no way out of the key word
for the next five years,
which is accelerate, right?
Keep that in your head
because that's what's going to happen.
You've got, like I said,
an exponential curve
on technological advancements through AI
and you're having them accelerate the fiat system, essentially, right?
Running the fiat system to the ground and BTC and gold being marketed
as the hedge against what's going on, essentially.
So, yeah, sometimes you got to zoom out in a big way
to really see what's happening in the short term so you you don't get shaken out of, you know, daily price action kind of thing. So yeah, I think the most offside trade seems to be higher for longer. And you know, if you do exit, you know, fully 80%, whatever in the next market rally that we get, I just think it's going to be very hard for you to stay on the sidelines as this thing grows and grows and grows over the next 6 to 12
months, maybe even 18 months, all of 2026. It would make
sense to go all the way up until midterms. But again, we don't have the
data for that. Just speculating a little bit
to reach out a little bit more.
Yes, man. It seems like we could be in a situation uh like 1997
in 97 there was a little bit of a of a pullback and markets continued to rally for three years
and it got to a point where uh i think i'm not sure if it was the s&p or the or the qqq no it
wasn't the q's because the q's went live in 99 i'm pretty sure it was the s&P or the or the QQQ no it wasn't the Q's because the Q's went live in 99
I'm pretty sure it was the S&P where the S&P had doubled in a year and I mean just take a look at
the insane rally that SPX has done over the last few weeks who's to say that the S&P can't be at
like 8,000 by late next year especially if monetary conditions in the U.S.
are about to get batshit insane.
And, you know, we can all agree that one million dollars today does not have the same purchasing
power as it did 25 years ago.
years ago right during the dot-com bubble peak so valuations of a trillion dollars plus
Right.
During the dot com bubble peak.
for some of these uh companies perhaps like a palantir or a hood or even a coin right a coin
based stock it's not that far out of the picture over the next two years and you know i know these
valuations might seem crazy to some people and some some people might say, man, Wabi, you're crazy for saying that. crazy valuations or even something like an open AI, which I think open AI right now has a private
vow of like 50 bill or something like that. So maybe they IPO at like 70 or 80 or something like
that. That's a free 30X staring you right in the face over the next 10 years in the stock market.
And I think we described this yesterday as well, how we might see some of these altcoins as too much of a high valuation to justify a trade.
And I was giving the comparison between something like a BNB and an Elrond, where Elrond was valued at 200 mil, 300 mil market cap and bnb was valued at like 10x that
premium and bnb ended up outperforming l ron then at that time in q4 of 2020 a two to three bill
market cap for a token was seen as high and obviously right now that's just not the case
so if we're about to go through a liquidity expansion and some of these stocks are about a absolutely turbo chat, then one can only imagine how high some of these altcoins can go.
And so we just take a look at some of the things that we've been covering on the show over the last few months, something like a far coin, which combines memes and AI, which has been the theme for really all markets over the last few years.
and AI, which has been the theme for really all markets over the last few years, and something
like a hyperliquid, then, you know, one could say as far as altcoins go, we've barely scratched
the surface over the last two years on what's to come, really. And, you know, it really
is that last period of patience. And if we look at what Bessette said back in early February, Bessette flat out said, you know, within four to six months, you will see the the Trump stock market.
Right. They used to call it Biden stock market and how the stock market was sick.
And after that, we had a vol blowout with the VIX essentially reaching great financial crisis levels.
And during this entire rally, Donnie, it's just so odd how many of the talking heads in the Fintwit macro landscape,
how many of the talking heads in the fin twit macro landscape since the 4800 bottom they've
all been saying all the way up to damn near 6000 how oh it's only retail buying the dip it's only
retail buying the dip but that's just that's just not enough to justify why something should
remain at a distressed price.
Because what we've seen is anytime the equity markets are down 20 plus percent, it doesn't
matter who's on the bid.
The price just ends up higher within a few months because things went down so low.
And it's as we said, right, things have to pump because they went down so much.
As left curve as it is, right, that's just been the case over the last decade and a half, really.
Yeah, and we saw literally how long did the recent nuke around early April last?
I think literally seven days.
So when you have a financial system that's levered up,
everybody is like chronically online.
One news article can literally exaggerate a narrative and therefore the price as well so quickly
that we are in this sort of like sped up system
of how things used to operate.
Like you used to get three, two year long bear markets,
things like that, right?
But I just think we're way beyond that.
And the system itself is way too stressed.
So if it goes unchecked, if that were to had lasted a little bit longer,
yeah, even the Fed was like, okay, we're ready to step in
if things get a little bit worse.
It can't handle that sort of volatility.
So they have to come in and patch it up.
And that's why we've said a few times, no matter how bad things really get, it's the other side that you want to be
positioned for, right? Of course, things can go much lower before they get better. But they made
it very clear throughout all of those tariff shenanigans that they don't want to crash the landing, right? You have to pay attention to those keywords, because it gives you signal that,
okay, there's certain levels that they can take this to. And if it crosses that level,
they're going to give up. And we managed to see it. And here we are. But they fully rotated that
playbook to the absolute most bullish playbook possible literally the most inflationary setup
possible and actually speaking about inflation gold here it's giving a lot of signal like
we were saying how the top could potentially be in uh on gold if you know we get this big
risk on pivot but actually it's kind of with how the broader macro picture has now started to confirm itself,
we're going through a very inflationary environment potentially over the next couple of years.
It makes sense for this chart to actually go higher. And BTC and gold subsequently together
act as kind of this macro hedge against this persistent monetary inflation, right?
And the chart is telling.
Like you just had that quote-unquote blow-off high on gold,
but it's now reaccumulating at those highs above demand,
if you can see on that chart that I just shared.
So this kind of adds to the Bitcoin thesis even more.
If gold actually does start to continue going higher, right?
Absorb more liquidity uh hedge
against it and btc also goes higher with it it's literally adding to the bitcoin thesis right and
speeding it up that bitcoin is this monetary uh inflation hedge so it's kind of like a asymmetrical
trade at the moment for btc if we get a massive risk on signal where gold actually does cool off and stocks and BTC go on a massive risk on rally, then sweet.
But if gold also does expand to like 4K and above from here and BTC just broke the high for the first time ever, actually breaking a price discovery high before the stock market, well, it's acting as a hedge against this environment as well.
So it's literally an asymmetrical trade from here.
It's just insane.
It's never been better.
Like every other cycle, it's been a highly speculative trade that performs well in ample
liquidity conditions.
But right now it's acting kind of as this risk on signal, but also a hedge against potential
monetary inflation. So just a crazy setup right
urgent spaces man urgent exclusive market updates man and man i couldn't be more excited
really um i really think that clip from when trump said we're going to be tired of winning
actually comes to pass by the end of the year, man.
I definitely feel as if the market tried to front run that back in December and early January.
And we just we saw how how like quickly the froth had to be pulled out of the market.
And then that playbook that we were discussing actually did happen right back in February. There were rumblings of like, you know, Trump's plan is to nuke the market as quickly as possible, to then pump it, to then pump it as massively as possible to make the midterms look good.
Because, you know, midterms, right, they haven't really been bullish years since 2014.
But go ahead, man.
I see you wanted to say something.
Go ahead, bro.
No, I was just going to add to that in like a funny way um yeah there's so many ways to view kind of that uh that whole setup
there right we had this big reaccumulation before the elections and kind of like a very very left
curve take which you know has like tiny bits of logic to it is that you know they weren't 100%
sure they're gonna win the election right so none So none of his boys or inner circle or whatever people that are lobbying him can really accumulate in a big way with certainty
that he's going to win that election until he wins essentially, right? But the market will front run
all of the positivity that comes from what he brings to the market. So what does he do? He nukes
the market, everyone around him gets in, do? He nukes the market.
Everyone around him gets in,
and then he just reverses the playbook.
Sweet, we're going pro-growth, pro-markets.
After they get their fair share, sub-80K.
If you're doing a full left-curve take right there.
Because the market exploded, right? They couldn't get in.
They're not going to buy the top.
So he nukes the market.
Everyone gets in.
He reverses the playbook,
and now we have like a 500-day uptrend.
Man, that would be crazy.
Like if we actually rally for 500 days since that bottom,
we rally until like October, November of next year,
essentially peak into midterms.
That would be tremendous.
And then just go through like the quick nuke playbook again.
And if you notice, man, during Trump's first term, any of the downtrends that occurred,
they didn't last for more than three months at all. Within three months, the market quickly,
quickly recovered. And I guess that's the beauty of having like a talking head that
has so much influence, man. I'm pretty sure Trump is like the most recognized last name as far as
like political figures and authorities in the entire world right now, man. So if people start,
you know, these other world leaders start looking at Trump
and what he's doing with crypto and other nations follow, like there is going to be a gold rush
into the space and the gap between BTC and gold might not take as long as people think.
I think it happens within 10 years, 10 to 15, I first btc has to flip in video that's like
that's the first stop man in my opinion but um another another like key point from a sentiment
take is that like you know we're literally trading at all-time highs right and other than people who
are in crypto and even even the bulls in crypto
are like oh man i can't wait to get out like a couple of months you know btc dominance will go
down i'll sell my bags you know fuck this market like even though even the bulls currently like
there's very few bulls that are actually seeing like well where this thing can really you know
run for a lot longer uh even there you know that's a bearish take in my opinion with the setup that we have
right and then you have like the general populace who just gives absolutely you know no shits about
this market at all and btc is about to you know rally super hard right when at what price do they
get interested you know i'm thinking it's going to be above 150, right? I don't like you're already at 110.
You broke the high recently. No one really cares. Like you, you go around anywhere out for a coffee
anywhere, meet up with like friends that aren't trading in the market. No one really cares like
at all. And, you know, I just think you have to go so much higher to draw in the amount of people
that, you know, this market should draw in with the plans that are coming for this big
growth push that the United States wants to do, plus marketing crypto to the whole world,
essentially. So even a distribution phase on BTC, I just think it has to come at a much higher price.
And I could imagine BTC being $200k before a distribution starts
and maybe the absolute Pico top
wick of that distribution, $300k,
$350k. And throughout that
phase, that can last ages.
That's where old
coins and stuff go absolutely
crazy and you have that massive
retail euphoria because everyone's
making money and all this kind of stuff.
I wouldn't be surprised if no one cared about crypto until eth you know broke six seven eight k like what's
what's going to be the trigger to bring back retail to make them really believe in this marketing
probably an 8k eth or 10k i think it'll be uh aside from price too i think you know whenever
like the big dogs decide they want to sell, right? Like they'll activate those legacy media sources.
We'll start seeing it everywhere.
It'll just start getting pushed down everybody's throat.
And I think that's what we saw last time too.
You know, all the media pundits know they're talking about Bitcoin now.
They're talking about ETH.
And you're right.
Well, when we start to see new all-time highs in some of the bigger ones, that's when people will take notice.
When Bitcoin gets to like 150 160 then
people can say to themselves oh it's going to 300 400k you know they can justify getting in or you
know they'll see eth ripping and then you know that's that's when it starts you know that's when
the wheel starts spinning and then you know you got your barber talking about it and your taxi
cab driver talking about it and that's i mean that's the? You know, when everyone, when your grandma hits you up
and she says she just, you know, found a good play in crypto,
you know, that's the time to sell your bags.
Yeah, it's just that like even the dot-com bubble, right?
And again, this is a different timeline.
Things can be a lot faster.
That distribution phase, if you take like the absolute start of it
to the end of it is honestly two years long right when
you're in the topping range at the highs so i'm just saying like btc can hold a topping structure
for a lot longer than people think there's a lot of supply that can be distributed to people coming
in um and you know that period is where like old coins and stuff got absolutely nuts to keep retail distracted and euphoric.
They're dumping the main tokens and everything else nukes after.
I mean, if we look at 2021, most of the price action for alts happened between 45k and 60k.
And we were in that region for eight months in 21 with some slight deviations to sub 35k
so yeah bro i was in that market that's when i really like paid attention right and i had bought
bags before we hit you know 40k and all that and i just kind of forgot about it because i got bored
and it was just like it was like this like when is it starting man this is getting tiresome you
know i just kind of forgot about it i'll check it like maybe once a week or something like that i had bags they weren't
really worth much literally i started with three thousand dollars right and i didn't start paying
attention until we had like 50k like you know when i'm glued to my phone and all this kind of stuff
and then i thought we were just gonna keep going up forever so most people especially around me at that time um they didn't get
interested until we were literally at 54 000 on btc so you know the prior high was 20k that's like
a two and a bit x from the prior all-time high where people actually got like mass interest in
the space so you know even 150k i think 150k btc will start to raise eyebrows right and they'll
they'll do what frankie said they'll start you knowdc will start to raise eyebrows right and they'll they'll do what
frankie said they'll start you know the media engine uh to draw people in and stuff
but like there's just so much raw liquidity that they want to pump globally
how do you how are you factoring in like all of these, all of these treasury vehicles.
I don't know if we, we, we talked about that at all yet.
But I saw that IRP, I believe.
I mean, if we're already seeing that, we saw micro strategy do the levered treasury play
with Bitcoin.
But if we're starting to see, yesterday there was an announcement around ETH. We know for a while there was someone trying to do that with Solana. Now we're seeing big entities do that with XRP.
stop? I mean, is everyone now just kind of caught on to the fact that they could kind of like,
you know, do this flywheel trade in their fiat for crypto and kind of leverage these huge
treasuries? Like, is this another like own fork meta, except instead of like DeFi, it's this sort
of like this sort of crypto trad fi flywheel that's about to be activated.
So I'm sure that you've been vocally pretty bullish, Donnie, and I really appreciate your
threads, especially the one that you did just a few days ago about crypto becoming this
kind of asset bubble.
And I think when we factor in the fact that this kind of
levered treasury is a play that people are catching on to now, and it's not just local to
the US markets, but it's now like a global, it's a global push. We see companies in Asia doing it. We see companies in the UAE doing it. We see, I mean, where does this stop is my question. But that's exactly what makes me bullish.
should, that everyone should pay attention to is how can all of these things, when we talk about
liquidity, when we talk about all of the tailwinds that we have to push this thing forward,
how can all of this play out in two months? How can all of this play out? We only see a 150k Bitcoin
and then we just like, you know, nuke this entire thing back to zero. I don't
really see a way of that to happen, especially considering the fact that TradFi moves a lot
slower. So things like regulation, things like rate cuts, things like, you know, these levered
treasury plays, all of this will take time to filter through the market. And I think that just breeds a more, again, extended cycle.
And I've kind of been talking about that for a little bit.
But I really think at the very least, we're going into sort of call it like late Q1, early Q2, or well into at least the first half of the year.
I would say, who knows, may, who knows,
maybe next year selling may go away is actually a thing. But I really do think that it takes a
while for a lot of these things to play out and filter through the market. And in the meantime,
we got a hell of opportunity. Yeah. A hundred percent, dude. I really think we're going to go
in 2026. You know, the cycle, the cycle feels different because it because it has been, you know, we got we got pushed out a lot further, you know, and that just goes to show you that it's not about the Bitcoin having. It's not about the presidential cycle. It's about central bank debt refinancing. And, you know, these these these cycles are really based around the actions of the central bank. We've been in higher monetary policy for longer.
based around the actions of the central bank we've been in higher monetary policy for longer
dude if you told me two years ago that we'd be coming into june of the post having year we'd
still be in qt i would tell you you're crazy i mean even though like yes i mean it's it's severely
it's it's you know it's almost mart it's it's it's almost negligible at this point but we're
still in qt like you know and ethan altcoins are allergic to qt i really do believe it
i think that the movement there is is going to reliant on a PIP from the central bank.
Remember that last cycle, the top of Bitcoin dominance peaked.
I forget if it was the end of QT or the beginning of QE.
But either way, it was a pivot in monetary policy that marked the top of Bitcoin dominance.
Bitcoin dominance. I really think we're going to go out. And you look at the business cycle, too.
I really think we're going to go well.
And you look at the business cycle, too.
I mean, we're still last this cycle, this time last cycle, March, April, May of the post having
year, we were in the ISM. You know, the economy was ripping. And remember that liquidity is a
function of the business cycle. And now, you know, we're coming into June of the post having year,
we're still floating around 50. And so I mean, still have a lot of things in front of us. We still have a lot of big largest crypto asset by market cap and be able to gain a passive yield on that.
That's something that these big dogs understand.
And I think that could be a huge catalyst for ETH.
And I wouldn't be surprised if it lines up perfectly with, you know, maybe some sort of a pivot to just absolutely gigasend ETH.
And I know everyone likes to say that ETH is dead, but remember how quickly the timeline
flipped bullish on ETH after a 45% move. So, you know, narrative follows price in a lot of cases.
And I think this will be one case for sure. I definitely think that we're just getting started.
I know Matt Hogan, CIO at Bitwise, you know, he makes the argument that, you know, all the things
that have been happening in crypto, you know, all the all the government adoption and the bull posting from the administration and the complete 180.
I think we have a lot of bullishness yet to come out of the SEC and Paul Atkins there.
All of these things, he says, fundamentally are setting us up for a multi-year bull run.
But the macro overcast has been so that it's really been kind of keeping a wet blanket on things.
But, you know,
the good news in these cases doesn't just go away. It gets stored as future energy. And I was actually
listening to Mel Madison, and he thinks that we're getting ready to enter, you know, maybe like a
year and a half, two-year bubble, you know, the likes of which we haven't seen in 40 years. And
he makes a pretty strong argument. He says the hyperinflationary, you know, the likes of which we haven't seen in 40 years. And he makes a pretty strong argument.
He says the hyperinflationary, you know, environment that we're about to enter is going to be tempered
by the Trump administration's efforts to keep energy costs low.
That's that's how we're going to survive in a hyperinflationary environment, because oil
and energy are going to are going to remain low through through their efforts.
You know, whether or not that happens or not is speculation,
but there's a path forward for sure.
And too, I think there are some larger cyclical forces at play,
especially when you're looking at the cycle of prosperity.
I think we're heading into a sort of like a roaring 20s type of environment.
And then you also have on top of that, like a technological revolution that we're in the midst of going through.
And then, you know, you add on a technological revolution with AI and then you add on, you know, a financial revolution with crypto. So there's a lot of these sort of like even outside of just crypto itself, these broader forces and cycles at play that even whether we agree if price, whether we agree or not, we can't control these forces.
These things will play out no matter what, as they have done for, you know, hundreds of years.
And so, you know, hundreds of years.
And so, you know, this isn't something that we can control.
And, you know, I mean, I echo Donnie's sentiment.
Like, I'm, you know, max bullish here. Who cares what happens with Bitcoin price, you know, on the 30-minute chart or on the hourly or whatever. But we know that over the next few
days and weeks and months, you know, max bullish. So don't get chopped. Don't get priced out due to
low timeframe. Chop. Literally just hang tight. And this is where patience pays.
Dude, patience has always been the ultimate alpha and i've been preaching
that more than ever lately because people are starting to get fatigued i mean i am too man
it's been you know it's it's been a long it's been a long cycle but if you and that's and that's why
these you know these spaces you know shouts to donnie shouts to because bitcoin for putting on
these spaces man because this is this is you know this is what gives people the conviction necessary
to sit through the volatility you know this game is about being able to sit through the volatility
it's not a guarantee that your bags are going to go up but you know if you do your research and you
and you establish some sound fundamental investing principles in the space that gaining adoption at
twice the rate of the internet chances are when it when it comes time to go and the animal spirits
load up you know chances are you're going to perform well especially if you're something like bitcoin or eth or solana you
know one of the safer bigger things that have established network effects it's it's it's really
bullish man i i really just couldn't you know the whole all of q1 of this year i was you know
running around fucking like with my hair on fire trying to tell people to relax and uh you know i
after you know starting in april and may my inbox was i wouldn't say flooded but i
had quite a few messages from people like hey man like appreciate it you know i would have sold
happy that i didn't and that's not to give myself a pat on the back it's just to say that like
you know patience and patience really is the ultimate alpha here and it's it's understanding
these cycles and understanding what drives asset prices that can really, can really let you
sit in your bags. I mean, I haven't looked, I haven't looked at my portfolio in such a long
time. I haven't made any transactions. I haven't looked at, I look at CoinMarketCap maybe once
every couple of days. I just can't be bothered because I just, I have so much conviction in
what's coming. Yo, Prometheus, man, how are you feeling, feeling brother welcome back to the show man
i think prometheus is out there in the pig farms with tucker unfortunately unless x is rugging
again but thankfully x hasn't rugged uh this week at all man because we weren't able to do
the show on friday because pretty much like everyone's profile uh was on mute it was on mute
but i saw paulos came off me paulos how are you feeling man welcome back to the show brother
thanks guys i don't know if it's me or like i thought that the space was rugging i keep getting
disconnected but uh yeah totally um i have the same kind of uh line of thinking as uh all the
discussion that we're having i just don't understand how you can think right now at this point that this is like some major top.
I'm already seeing people crying.
We've double topped.
We're doing the same thing as 2021.
And it's just insane to me.
Like the feeling that you had when those topped last times like is not even close remotely close to like the current environment like
the kind of froth that we saw in those last cycles when it really topped out like nfts going
completely insane um the most speculative people buying rocks for how many hundreds of eats like just complete insanity
like we haven't hit that point at all yet there's been some pockets of alt outperformance but it's
been very selective um you know like i've definitely been a lot more btc heavy like
over the last few months but i am like i am really starting to shift at this point because
i feel like we're on the cusp like i have this feeling that once the smp crosses all-time highs
again first of all on that side in equities you're gonna have hedge funds that are very likely going to just FOMO back in because until now, lifting it back to close to $6,000
has been pretty much just retail bidding every single dip possible
that Trump created with the tariffs and all that.
So once the hedge funds start reallocating
because they feel like they have that full confirmation that
like we're not going to go into a mega depression type scenario then i think uh i think things are
going to get very frothy very quick and if you're like not starting to think about allocating at
this point and soon i think it's i think you're gonna
look back and and and really like scratch your head because it's just how each one of these
cycles is always the same you you wait you wait it's always like this kind of um this belief phase
that takes a long time for people to just like actually accept what's happening and the reality
is like you you're gonna miss a pretty large chunk of the move already if you're if you're
waiting for those final confirmations yeah sometimes the confirmation is like they're about to print a ton of money um or that a lot of things honestly
just nuked to the downside which oftentimes anytime there's a huge nuke in equities
of 20 plus percent there's always some form of stimulus that comes so history doesn't repeat
itself but it often rhymes man prometheus are you back with us yet man is uh is x good on your end yeah can you hear me yeah are you at the barn brother
no no no we're not at the barn today is tucker with you
no no no tucker's not with me i think he's doing some stuff ah Ah, okay, okay. Well, how are you doing, man? KTA is now being shielded by Pintoshi and a lot of these other big names, man.
Congratulations once again.
It's quite beautiful to see that.
It really is a call that stems from BB going parabolic in mindshare.
And I still think KTA has the potential of flipping Caspa.
Honestly, I think Caspa lost a lot of its growth.
I think because I think a lot of those miners started pushing Caspa
and they're just nuking it.
But I'm not really here to fund, man.
But what are you seeing out there, man?
Just, I guess, lower time frame locally, stuff like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, locally speaking, I talked about it.
I talked about it in the Discord.
I talked about it on my timeline.
But, I mean, this week was going to be, and it is a big week for Bitcoin.
You know, from a trending perspective, I did want to see trend continuation this week.
Big follow through up into the 120 to 130K region that I do believe is going to be the target zone.
zone. But, you know, BTC conference or the people at the BTC conference flows, I guess, are just
too strong or lack thereof are too strong when they're not there. It's just so weird. Like
with, with, you know, the sell offs that we see around the Bitcoin conference and,
and, you know, just historically speaking, right, you know, going into the Bitcoin conference and, and, um, you know, just historically speaking, right.
You know, going into the Bitcoin conference, you think it would generate hype.
You think it would generate and stem, um, you know, buying and, and, and liquidity flows
and into the sector and yada, yada.
And it's actually done quite the opposite, right?
But this sector is very much forward looking in a way and
typically does front run the conferences and we do tend to see volatility during the conference.
But kind of a lack of a follow through, we did come up into the supply region on Sunday and
yesterday, had a bit of rejection at, off the top of my head, I think it's like 109, 110K.
And now we're seeing that pullback.
You know, I do think you want to see 106K hold from a structural standpoint.
It was the highest previous daily close.
It was also the region that was defended by Sailor and some of the
other whales that were bidding. It's going to be kind of interesting to see how we react out of
that. You know who gets liquidated if we go back down there. So I am very much watching that key
level on 106k. But if we do see this weekly close kind of in the fashion and the manner that it's shaping up to right now, you know, a little bit of a deeper pullback potentially even into 97, 98K, which is not what people want to hear.
But, you know, structural retest backfill some liquidity on the three day and the weekly see some form of reaccumulation before higher.
But ultimately on the high, high time frame, I mean, we're in bullish market structure.
There's no denying that right there's no denying that we're in high time frame bullish market structure um but you know a little bit of rejection here a little bit of distribution here
at the highs is kind of to be expected with these markets like there's nothing new for for crypto to
play shenanigans when bitcoin's you's testing new all-time highs,
right?
Scared market participants out, let the market makers get bids filled, send it higher, have
them FOMO back in.
Then that's the jet fuel to have things accelerate even beyond what the initial expansionary
move is.
And then market makers dump on them. They continue to hold
bags and rinse and repeat. It's the cycle all over again. What do you know? So structurally here,
I'm really, really, what's piquing my interest is Ethereum. Ethereum is showing a ton of strength here locally. And Solana looks horrendously weak, like horrendously weak. Solana unable to get above
that 180 level. That was the high that was set for the strategic crypto reserve announcement.
And it was also and we're also having to undersec retest as well. So key pivotal level,
you know, we swept the liquidity up above 180 and we really failed to get back
above that region.
If you're able to get above 180 on Solana and see a trending move out of that region,
I'm high time frame bullish on it and could definitely see 220 and then right pretty short
thereafter new all- time highs. But
I think Solana is definitely a good short candidate here locally. In regards to majors,
like I don't really want to be shorting Ethereum here. Could there definitely be a catch up trade
to the downside with Ethereum? Sure, you could argue that but it's showing a ton of strength.
And I don't want to be the guy that, you know, puts his nuts on the table and shorts,
short strength, like that's just not nuts on the table and shorts, short strength.
Like that's just not how I operate in these markets. Right. Um, so definitely, definitely
shorting some Solana here. I could be, you know, I'm targeting that one 50 off the top of my head.
I think it's like one 50 to one 53 to like one 60 level. Um, kind of looking for that level specifically out of Solana. But I mean,
structurally, yeah, I'm like, dude, we're high timeframe, bullish market structure,
send it higher. If we see a little bit of pullback, so what? The timeline is going to
bitch and whine and scream about it the entire way down. And from a sentiment perspective,
that's the perfect time to get some bids filled on some of the tickers that, you know, whatever you're bullish on, get some bids filled.
So I'm bullish, man. I'm bullish.
Definitely see us, you know, take probably a week or two after the conference to see potential continuation.
So that's what I'm seeing, man. Just kind of chilling out right now.
I'm not worried. I'm not worried about my bags. I'm not worried about structurally. I'm not
worried about sentiment. It's so interesting too how we're seeing so many bears get bared up on
the timeline when Bitcoin has the highest weekly close ever like
i just don't understand how you can be on the timeline like screaming for 60k bitcoin i don't
i literally know it does not make any iota sense i think it's because like if you've been here for
more than one cycle there's a huge possibility that you get washed up and your edge is no longer there because
a lot of people, they get their edge because they borrow conviction from someone else.
And when that person makes it and that other person that borrowed a conviction still remains
in the market, they go through their first bear market or second bear market and then they end up just being better
at like predicting dumps or lower time frame corrections and so they pivot to just i guess
tweeting out doom posting doom or like these melancholic takes on the market because they
just have no edge outside of bitcoin so they just all right, pull back here after a huge pump.
I could see XYZ token pulling back to XYZ price.
So it's always about like pullbacks here, pullbacks there.
Would you be in shambles if BTC nukes 25%?
Would you survive?
And they go towards that kind of content instead of like
trying to provide edge. At least that's, that's what I think, man.
I think I agree with you. Um, so you, you have like a lot of these OGs, for example,
are calling for, Oh, we're going to go to 150 K, that'll be the cycle top. And everyone is really focused on
the top being over the next few months. But the motivation behind that is the emotion
or the driver behind that is them being burnt out. Really, the cycle hasn't played out
the way they thought. And so they really just want it to be over so they
can sell and go away. And I think that's similar to what you're saying, Wabi. A lot of times when
you're a bigger account, perhaps you made it, perhaps you made your money and you're good to
go. You're not as locked in as you could be. And so you don't really take the time to develop your edge. And so any opinion that you
share now isn't as relevant as it was before, because before you were really locked in, you
were trying to make it, you were trying to make the gains, but now you made it. There's no incentive
for you to be watching charts for eight to 12 hours a day or whatever. So in reality, instead of following some of the same
accounts, really what people should be doing is looking for the next Donnie. You know what I mean?
Someone who has basically studied and they've grown their conviction based on their own research. And they can tell you a million ways why.
And they can look at a market from all sorts of angles that lead them to the same conclusion.
And they can tell you a reason why they're so bullish.
But with a lot of these larger accounts, there's no incentive for them to lock in as hard.
I mean, we know,
you know, with crypto, you can make an insane amount of money. And once you already make it, there's almost no incentive to be that locked in anymore. Knowing the kind of mental strain
that crypto, the mental strain that crypto has on a person when you've been in these markets for so long
and you have an unsustainable relationship with crypto. That's typically, anyone in the trenches
right now, anyone spending 12 to 16 hours, they're going to know more than a lot of these bigger
accounts. And that's why the saying goes across CT,
the alpha is with the smaller accounts. Why? Because they're grinding. They're in there.
They're in the current market and not jaded by what the market has been or what they think the
market should be. That's why so many people were caught off guard now because we have a cohort of new traders in the market that are only used to the pump fund style market that we've been in versus many of the OGs that were caught off guard because they thought it was going to be like the way it was. So if I say all of that to say, small accounts are alpha,
newer accounts than older accounts, especially if they're not as consistent. And, you know,
although it is unsustainable, the guy in the trenches or the guy that's in these markets
actively is much, will give you much greater alpha and be will and will deliver much more value than
someone who's already made it and has no incentive to be right dude I'm gonna get I'm gonna get
blasted for this but I mean it's that's so so true you have these 100k 200k accounts that are still hard shilling ADA. Like who the fuck is bidding ADA? Like,
excuse my language, but like, I'm so sorry. Like if you are in some of these, like, you know,
dead dino coins, like find something new. Like there's no multiples in these coins like it's like dude it's like listening
i don't even know who'd be a good example it's like listening to the beastie boys still like
who the fuck listens to the beastie boys the the new accounts like you said the ones that are
tenacious the ones that are hungry the ones that are willing to put their neck out or stick their neck out and go for it are those ones that are going to provide
those big, big multiples that you're really looking for.
Like, dude, I have people hitting me up, asking me to chart coins, asking me to talk,
asking me to talk about certain coins that were like relevant in 2018.
talk about certain coins that were like relevant in 2018.
I'm like, why would you ever subject yourself to that at this point, dude?
That's like going to Thailand and getting tricked.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like asking Dave Ramsey where you should park your money.
No, literally.
Literally.
You got to be with the time.
You need to understand what's relevant, where the new like biases are, what's the hot narratives.
You got to be fluid.
You know, you got to be fluid.
You got to be willing to, you know, pivot when necessary.
And for whatever reason, a lot of people are adverse or yeah, a lot of people don't like, like they don't like,
like for whatever reason, they don't like new, they don't like new, they like what's safe. They
like what's comfortable, you know, and that's not what, that's not where you're going to make it.
And I'll say this for anyone listening. That's like, okay, well the alpha is in the smaller accounts. Alpha is in the
newer accounts. All right. Well, thanks for that. Well, how do I go about, how do you go about
gathering that information and taking all of that in? The alpha is Twitter lists. The way to avoid
maximum noise, the most noise on the timeline is Twitter lists.
Skip the For You page for the most part.
I think, you know, For You pages can introduce you to some nice accounts.
But stick to Twitter lists.
Start with nice alpha accounts.
So, like, start with an account like Donnie, for example, or an account like Prometheus and all the panelists that you see up here.
And then expand upon that.
Because what I did when I first started is I'd go to an account like Donnie and I'd say, man, this guy's been right about a lot recently.
Let me see who he follows.
And I'd go through. I'd go to an account that I think lot recently. Let me see who he follows. And I'd go through,
I'd go to an account that I think is alpha. I'd see who they follow. And I would just then like
scan each account. And if I get value out of the first, you know, let's say five or six tweets,
I'm automatically adding you to the list. And this is something that I do constantly, even now. I have a list, a Twitter list of about 118, 120 or so accounts. The amount of accounts on there is different for each person, depending on how much noise and how much information you can take in each day. I obviously have a little bit more time because I do this full time. But that's what I would say for anyone that's kind of wondering how they can implement this
on their own. Go to any accounts that you find interesting, follow them, look at who they follow,
and see if you can learn anything from the accounts that, and whatever value you're looking for, whether that be, you know,
takes on macro, takes on, you know, different assets, takes on perps trading, you know,
different trading strategies or whatever it is that you're looking for, see what kind of value
you can get from these accounts and slowly but surely add these accounts. And sometimes you
might even see some of these different accounts interacting with each other. So you might see them on the same spaces. So you come to a spaces and you see all these bigger accounts or some of these accounts that are really delivering good information, follow them, see who they're interacting with, see who they RT or see who they're quote tweeting or see who they're following. And that's how you begin to build a network because CT is an endless pit of value.
The problem is there's a lot of noise as well.
So you have to know how to filter through that noise.
And the only way to do that is by building a curated list that has all of the information that is specific to what you are looking for,
list that has all of the information that is specific to what you are looking for, whether
that be crypto, equities, futures, perps, options, real estate, whatever that is that
you're looking for, there is someone talking about that and delivering the best information
as possible for free.
And I keep bringing up Donnie's name. I'm not trying to hype him up too much.
But there was a thread that he posted a few days ago. And literally in the comment section, there was someone that was like, oh, I showed this thread to my finance professor.
And they thought they asked if you worked at J.P. Morgan or Wells Fargo or something.
They thought that Donnie was a Trapfi goaded analyst, which he probably is.
But my point is he's giving this information away for free.
He's giving this information away for free on Twitter. So if you can find these accounts
that give away deep value content for free, you can put that all on the same list. And now every
day you're reading nothing but value and you're learning something every single day. So that's
how you implement exactly what we're talking about right now. And I just wanted to share that real
quick. Dude, that's such a good point. And I'm going to, you know, I'm going to talk
my own book here for a second, but I'm definitely a smaller account, but you're right, man. I
fucking, you know, I, I, I fucking grind a lot and I see, and I follow smaller accounts too,
you know, like when I first got into the space, I started following some of the bigger accounts and,
you know, I had, you know, just kind of
thought that like followers was, uh, was the, was kind of the important metric. And then I started
looking at some other smaller accounts, you know, some other, some other macro based guys. And I was
like, wait a second, like this, this doesn't seem like alpha to me right now. Like, it seems like
I'm just getting like shilled right now. I feel like, and I started looking at some of the smaller
accounts and I'm like, these guys are the ones bringing me updates and giving me good takes and giving me good charts.
So yeah, man, shouts to you for that. And that's one thing that motivates me to grow
my platform is to one day be a bigger account who can, because I've had a lot of support
along the way. Bigger accounts put me on or repost me or whatever it is. I want to do the same for other people one day.
Who's talking right now? Is it Frankie? Is it?
Yeah. It has you as a listener on, on, uh, on my side. So I like even Prometheus,
it says he's a listener too. So I'm, I'm just trying to make sure I know who to follow. Yeah.
I'm, I'm, I literally am following you right now.
Appreciate it,
brother.
Well,
guys,
we've been streaming for about an hour and a half.
You guys have anything more that you want to touch upon or I think now's a
good time to wrap it up,
man.
Don,
anything else you want to say,
brother?
Nah,
I think that's, we covered a lot that was a good
one um and i have to go so yeah i'll catch you guys uh in the next one hope you guys have a good
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