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Recorded: Jan. 22, 2026 Duration: 2:21:20Space Recording
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The Yo, what's up, Ja?
Wanna play me?
No, you beat me the last two games.
I swear I thought you did it on purpose,
the one game where I upgraded everything. No, you beat me the last two games. I swear I thought you did it on purpose to one game where I upgraded everything.
No, I'm so cooked in chess.
I used to be so good.
I'm getting back into it, though, because there ain't nothing else to do.
It's a lot of fun, actually.
I've been playing it a lot now.
I see you online.
I see you grinding, dude.
Like, I have three screens.
So, yesterday, I actually had, like, the chest open the whole night.
Did you play chess the entire night?
No, no, no.
I was playing WoW with a friend of mine, but I was seeing you playing.
Like, you were online, and you were, like, even after we were done playing,
you were doing, like, 20 more games or something.
Oh, I did a lot of games.
I did a lot of games. I did a lot of games.
I'm going to get good at it.
I promise you.
I'm going to get good.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't know.
Yesterday, we were our first day.
We were just breaking out the board.
But I'm going to, you know, not for nothing, John, not to toot my own horn.
But in school, I beat everyone in school including the professor then i used to
play like yahoo chess i don't know if you ever uh i was i was uh bro i was like 13 a grandmaster
considered grandmaster at that really but yeah yeah yeah don't worry i'm gonna i'm gonna brush up
you know the thing that would get me is the time i need to lengthen out the time i'm i'm just not
sharp anymore you know i used to be able to play, you know, three to five minute games
I make so many fucking mistakes. It's because the time starts pressing down on you and you just got to start moving, you know, but
What's that?
I haven't played in a also in a quite a long time and the time it's also the time that like like I wanted to think
But every time I started to think I was like my next move isn't gonna be good enough to like compensate for the 20 seconds that i took to come up with i
know i know i know i know you gotta just make your move like you even you like i think like halfway
through the match if you're not winning you just gotta try to win by time like if they got you in
in material you gotta just go for time that's what i've been that's what i've been pretty much
been doing it's been a lot of fun i don't know like i put a tweet out saying like probably
shouldn't waste your time here on crypto twitter because there's not much to gain in my opinion
look for something else i don't know you were saying like we should do like wagered chess
matches like a dollar a match put it on chain i'm just thinking all the cheaters that would come out and steal one yeah yeah yeah
yeah they would be cheating for one dollar i know what these people are i know how broke these
people are i've seen it with my own two eyes the biggest accounts that claim to be all these rich
people turn to be out to be all these broke people and all these good guys turn to be out the bad
guys and all the bad guys are it's a complete inverse i don't get why it is what it is but it is what it is you know i got people swearing up and down you know they're this great guy
and then you know i would never take undisclosed payments and then that whole debacle comes out the
other day and they're like oh yeah they messaged me too but i i turned oh you didn't like just stop
the cap they can't help themselves i realize the. The cap never stops. It just keeps growing. We got Big Cuz in the listener section. He's the one that's been subtweeting me all day.
But I think I'm going to go back to chess because Book said he was going to be here on this space.
He's not here. So I'm like, I don't know what we're going to talk about. He is in the trading
competition. He is in first place. Big shout out to Book's. I think he's going to win it all.
No brainer. I've seen who he's up against. You know what's funny? They got Rectober in first place. Big shout out to books. I think he's going to win it all. No brainer.
I've seen who he's up against.
You know what's funny?
They got Rectober in the mix.
And I'm just thinking like,
how big a piece of shit this guy is.
He tried to FUD Aster the entire time
when it was pumping
and he was wrong over and over and over again.
And now he wants to join the trading competition.
Just tell me you're a hypocrite without telling me.
Just tell me I can't listen to anything you say without telling me. I saw that we had, you know,
Twitter just once again, rubbing it in your face that, hey, this algorithm is completely
manipulated. If you're not part of the Paradigm Investing crew, just forget about getting your
content even out there, right? Not only is the application have less users than ever,
like the daily active users are drying up regardless what you read on this timeline. Oh,
we have an all-time high in daily active users. Okay, guys, like we're all retarded. I think you
think we're all, we're not retarded. We see very clearly what's going on here. And I know how we
got here. It's the exact same way they're rubbing it in your face like i knew it was manipulated the way they said it is right now oh we've got these buckets of
accounts that we're gonna shield no no no this has been going on for quite some time now they
have like a pretty ui for it that they want to roll out i'm like no this is this is already i've
been telling you guys uh this has been already be careful what you invest in like things like monad
are just a 500 million dollar extraction never talked about. XPL, another several hundred
million dollars, never be talked about. The PumpFunCoin, all these things that make it to
your algorithm aren't by chance or because they were the best product on market. It's because of
the buckets that they're now publicly disclosing. I'm like, yeah, you guys have been doing, I guess
they're probably running some legal issues
with doing it privately,
but this has been privately going on for quite some time.
I'm glad that they're finally disclosing it though.
I mean, because you thought I was making this shit up
and I'm like, ah, I know what I know.
I've been on this algorithm forever.
They're finally, did you see that they're disclosing that,
hey, certain accounts will be shilled.
Like we're gonna handpick those accounts.
Like that hasn't been going on already.
Like we didn't just get hard shilled
the living fuck out of Monad and Solana,
Vaporware, VC extractive shit.
Like that was an off chance.
Bro, let me tell you something.
We have been in crypto for longer than Nikita Bear.
Don't even know who Nikita Bear is
until he got hired.
Like he was put, once again, put onto us.
No one knew who this guy was.
And this is like, I hate to complain to complain, but that's what we're going to do. Like law,
like y'all can know. Alex, Alex, I think you're putting far too much energy into this and thought.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not. I'm telling you what it is. I'm just doing my victory lap. I'm just telling you i was right again once again showing villain was right just doing a little victory lap i think we got a new application
upon us you know i think that um cz really wants the binance app because he quote retweeted i don't
know if you saw that they they wrote out an article about the binance app and how it's paying creators
which i don't think that's the narrative. I don't think creators want paid.
Genuine creators, they don't want paid.
Genuine creators just go on here because they like creating, right?
Like same with like YouTube stream.
They're not doing to get paid.
The problem is we've got this financial game
that we play in crypto where we all like,
you know, we're here for financial games.
We're here to get early information.
We're here to get in earth.
That is where this whole like mix comes in
of like this TikTok wannabe loser that thinks they can make it in crypto and get monetized that way. I'm
like, no, that's not what this application is for. This application was never built for content. That
was for TikTok, YouTube, Instagram. This was built to get early information into financial
investments and be early. But now, you know know because the way the algorithm set up the
cream doesn't rise to the top it's whatever they select rises to the top they publicly disclose it
and i'm right again i did not miss man yo because tell me the last time i missed what tell me tell
me tell me tell me tell me tell me listen i never missed i've never missed i, guys. I have never fucking missed. I've never missed.
I will say I'm early.
They put you into the crypto starter pack, though.
You didn't see that?
You're one of the accounts.
I don't give a fuck.
Why is there a starter pack account?
Why does that even exist?
Why do we need that?
When you come on X, and if you're here for a particular thing like crypto,
you need to know the accounts to follow.
No, no.
I don't need X to tell me.
I don't need X to tell me I need to go put $500 million in Monad.
And then now I'm down, you know, $200 million.
I don't even hear about Monad anymore.
I know you don't because they already extracted $500 million.
They're on to their next one.
It's called, you know what it's called?
It's called Cal sheet.
It's called Cal sheet in prediction markets.
Don't worry, guys.
I am just so fucking... Don't worry. I'm going to short Cal gonna short cows i'm gonna make money on that too don't worry it's coming i don't just talk talk i will be shorting i'm saying i'm finding
opportunities for memes on tiktok now instagram i don't know you're not everything no you're not
i swear to god no you're not look at the cap look at the cap look at the cap everyone look at big
cuz look at the cat look at the cat look at that the cap. Look at the cap. Everyone, look at Big Cuz. I'll show you the DMs. Look at the cap.
Look at the cap.
Look at that.
Yo, you know what you need to invest in?
If you want to... I'm going to paste the DMs.
Here's what you need to invest in right now.
It's Moonbirds.
They made a...
They had a...
They have a token coming, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, not only that, right?
Spencer...
I might do an AMA with Spencer.
I might go out of my way and do an AMA.
I haven't done one in a long time.
But maybe Spencer would be all right to do an AMA with.
I don't know.
I just don't like them anymore.
To be honest, I do not like them.
They're just too dog pony show, too much fluff.
I want to ask them,
how can I turn my $1 into $2
if I give it to you and your product?
And we all know how that path goes, right?
And oftentimes they don't want to answer those questions.
And I don't want to, you know, I don't want to come off too abrasive.
And I just best avoid it altogether, in my opinion.
And I can, you know, as great as I am and the people around me, because I don't even
need the founder in to get a really good idea of the product and how it can potentially
grow.
Like, so now I'm looking at Moonbird, right?
They had their breakpoint stand. Only moon birds right they had their breakpoint
stand only one other nft project had a breakpoint stand that was pudgy penguins
now the next thing they just did i don't see their partner up here with aster did you see this
am i right i saw it i saw it i saw it yeah while board ape has been asleep at the wheel
you've had absolutely not board ape is on amazon
today for anyone who uh who missed it there's a launch we got uh uh g's other side we got chimpers
so just my thing is what what liquidity retailer in the world i mean i had to i had to hear them
complain about the box all i heard was complaints about the box it was like oh why wasn't this just given to us as bored apes you know all i heard was
complaining i didn't see them growing the what you're lying just stop lying well well i'm going
great over there other side is cooking we got a threat guy talking about roadblocks acting as if
other side don't exist it's, it's more of the same.
If you're not paid to buy these people, you either fund it or you don't talk about it.
You act like it don't exist.
And it's why crypto products fail because of these big accounts and their fucking egos.
Speak for yourself.
Speak for yourself.
I'm not saying you.
You've got, you've got.
I like that guy's stream, but him doing a whole stream. I'll tell you. I'll tell saying you. You've got, you've got. I like DreadGuy's stream, but him doing a whole stream.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you whenever.
I'll tell you when I'm working with someone.
It'll normally be like I'll be an ambassador of some sort.
I'll let you know.
I'm not going to.
But I'll also.
I'll also.
He did a whole stream about Roblox.
I'll also invest.
I'll also trade.
I'm a really good trader, actually.
I'm a better trader than most.
I was a better trader without, you know, having a huge account. I was, uh, I feel like I could lock in better, not being a bigger account, to be honest. Now it's like so many
people reach out to me. I get like, you know, Monad trying to reach out and work with me. I just,
Kalshi tries to reach out and work with me. All these people that swear to God, they go, oh yeah, I got, no, bro. If you guys got my DMs, all these like altruistic, oh, I can't
stand it. It's gaslighting. It's like when I sit on the timeline, like, yeah, so-and-so wanted to
work with me, but you know, I just didn't want to affect my brand. I'm like, bro, no one wanted to
fucking work with you. You would be working with anyone, the person that normally tweets some shit
like that. You get whatever I leave on the table.
Like, I look at the table, I'm like,
what do I like on this motherfucking table?
What does Shilling Villain want to go to shill?
That's what I look at.
I'm like, I don't like that.
Give that to Dickwad.
Eh, I don't like that.
Give that to Big Cuz.
Oh, that right there?
You say PC games?
Shit.
You see all the baddies?
I'm shilling that shit.
Give me that PC game badge. I need that right
now. I haven't even held up my end of the bargain. I'll be honest. I've been pretty lazy. I said I
was going to eventually do some live streams. I got to do them. I got to do them. I got to figure
out a way it makes sense. I've done crypto casino streams before. I wanted to, I don't know.
It just doesn't make sense though.
You know, we just put pretty girls
and we get an unk or two unks
and we start streaming a casino.
Like how polarizing is that?
I don't know.
We need to get new users in.
I don't know how we go about that,
especially on this application
where it's actually physically impossible
to bring on new crypto users.
If you haven't noticed,
we haven't had a new crypto user in, I't know like uh since elon took over the app and since nikita
bear manipulated the algorithm to only shill uh hard extractions that had no new users what up
to add no new users like monad and only take from take liquidity while adding zero users
you guys remember you guys remember 500 million dollar raise two months ago we forgot about that
you guys were talking about some $10 million raise.
And that's the worst thing.
I'm like, hang on a second.
Something raised 50X times that.
And where did that liquidity go?
How much liquidity put in that liquidity pool for Monad?
Anyone know?
Anyone know?
That's what I thought.
We like to just pick and choose who we like to cancel.
I've realized you guys want to cancel everyone except for the, you know,
the people that are doing the most fucking damage around here. I don't have a fucking, I don't have a fucking problem
because with people making money, raising, build a product, raise, you know, whatever. I'm not,
I'm not, I don't give a fuck. I have a problem when there's a double standard where someone
builds a product, oh, they, you know, they need canceled. But Monad raises 500 fucking million,
adds zero users.
And chances are that guy, that dickwad who built like some game or something,
and they probably add 10, 20 users.
But if you look at like the ratio of liquidity
they raised from the space
versus the users they added,
how many new users got added from Monad?
Zero.
It's zero.
And they took out $500 million.
So how many more? We lost another 1 you know thousand investors two thousand investors man it's always from the same actors coinbase
paradigm solana i i don't miss a beat and now they're just they've now told you because they
have put it out in plain text write it that they are going to go shill certain accounts
and you got to figure out how they,
and I just told you how they got them.
It's based on the investors.
And it is what it is.
I got to hear the saying game is game.
Whenever I bring this up, I'm like, nah, dude.
No, no, no, no.
That's not how this shit works.
Game is not game.
You want this application to become the next Clubhouse.
It's getting there.
I mean, there's really zero point.
You know why people stopped doing Clubhouse?
There was no new users on Clubhouse.
There was nothing. It was like, what's thehouse? There was no new users on Clubhouse. There was nothing.
It was like, what's the point?
We're talking to the same fucking people.
Might as well go out somewhere else,
venture somewhere else.
And then, you know,
spaces started up
and then all of a sudden,
bada bing, bada boom, baby.
Here we are.
And now I'm just looking at this Binance Square app.
I'm like, fuck,
if they can figure out this VPN issue,
it's game.
It is game on.
You know what I mean?
What do you think about Binance Square?
You probably didn't even use it,
have you pick guys?
No, I don't use that. I'm you pick guys? No, I don't use that.
I'm not leaving Twitter.
I don't care.
This is City Hall.
This is Town Square, whether you like it or not, bro.
You either play the game or you don't.
I can play both.
You know, what's the opportunity cost on what alpha am I losing out on here on Twitter
if I go and start making new networks on the Binance Square app?
Like, oh, my God.
White Whale?
I mean, that's down 90% in two days.
I missed out on another minus 90%.
Did myself a favor maybe if I stopped using this app.
What about the Seeker token?
The Solana Seeker phone?
Oh, let me guess.
That's ripping through the algorithm.
Another raise.
Okay.
No, no.
I saw that on CoinMarketCap, but it's up 300% today.
When did it come out?
Is it an old token?
Yesterday.
It's an old token?
It has something to do with their phone.
The new phone, I believe.
But, yeah, I got an alert from coin market cap actually the application
and it's telling me it was up 300 why do you only show me why do you only show me paradigm products
like you don't realize you're doing information well no i don't think you're real i don't just
show you no you never show i sent you the uslr token two days ago when it was at $7 million.
It ran up to $50 million.
Where?
On the WhatsApp.
I'm not reading your WhatsApp messages.
Are you crazy?
All right, well, I'm just sharing information with the bros.
If you don't want to read it, don't read it.
All I'm saying is we're talking about the past too much when we need to be locking in on these opportunities to make money. That's it. All I'm saying is we're talking about the past too much when we need to be locking in
on these opportunities
to make money.
And how much money did you make on
US, whatever you just said?
Nothing.
Oh, okay. I mean,
what are we doing here? I made more money
playing chess. You know how I did that? Because I didn't buy
fucking white whale and I didn't lose
90% my port I just played chess
The reason I sent it to you is because there was like three or four different tokens
Just two days ago
Two days ago we were on the pirate ship together robbing the booty and you're walking me off the monad plank
And then after that you're like let me walk him off the fucking the white whale plank
You had me off on the plank sword pointed at my back
walk the plank walking me right off the fucking plank rocking me off the fucking boat i'm like damn dude you want all my crypto big guys he wants all your crypto guys he wants to
take all your boots mr beast token speculation or no that means i saw that one that's interesting
that's interesting bro mr beast has done so many undisclosed projects already.
What are we talking about?
He, like, he...
It's supposed to have something to do with the Super Bowl, apparently.
This is just a TikTok narrative.
He's going to do an ad, and he launched something like an LLC or something called Mr. Beast Financial.
That's what people are saying, and they're connecting it to crypto.
I don't know if it's fucking true, but that's what they're talking about in the trenches i guess i'm not bullish on mr beast token i mean
it'll perform like every other celebrity token i'll get in i'll get it out if i if i get the
contract within like the first five minutes i'll buy if i'm if i'm at the six minute marker i lost
like just um and then and then i'll wait for you know the zac xbt's to come out and uh tell me how mr
beast is the worst guy in the world while you know he's hard showing you monad uh every paradigm
product imaginable loving this a non account bro what a joke you guys trusted an a not account
yeah what happened to it went to zero yeah didn't even didn't even to zero. Didn't even need to know. Didn't even need to know.
Wait, who was shilling it?
A lot of people were.
They were saying that the dev didn't know.
He won the dev won clip 250k
and he thought it's the right moment to do it.
That's what they're saying.
And he's like smart.
He's playing the trenches.
It went to like 50 million
and now it's like a 2.4.
Yeah, he won clip 250k.
I mean, I don't know. I could care could care i mean i wasn't involved in that token so i i couldn't i mean i don't care i didn't lose money i wasn't gonna say about that
i wouldn't care if i lost money uh in crypto to begin with i wouldn't i don't i've never made
money back when i started uh saying i lost. It never happened. Not once. Not once
was I like, oh my God, I can't believe Aster was down from $2.50 to $0.60. Maybe I should come
after fucking CZ and call CZ a scammer. Not once has that ever worked out in my favor,
just so we're clear. What has worked out in my favor in times past, D-Gods, whenever it went
well under mint, was just me continuously bullposting about it. And then I just bullposted all the way to the top
and then sold the top.
And I think that's what you got to do, guys.
I don't think,
I think that's just the way it went on this app.
If there was a way to win,
although I don't think you're preaching
to any new liquidity pools.
There used to be a point in time
where you could come on this app
and there was a potential
you could tap in a new liquidity pool.
And I don't know if that exists anymore.
I think we are all here. I think, I mean, mean the bubble is so fucking small there's like a hundred of us fishing
in the same fucking pond here i'm throwing back the ugliest fish i can find and y'all calling it
the best fish you got a trophy in that fish you're like whoa my god look what i just seen like yeah
i threw that fucking shit out the door that carp eater that was some fucking big cut shit right
there he trophy put that bitch on he's's like, I'm going to show this.
So I'm like, but I was fucking sending that thing back in the pond.
I do not even think of it like that.
I'm not.
I don't think I'm about to show this to people.
Like, so I could.
I usually show shit without even buying it just to share information with the bros.
I know it's hard for you to believe, bro.
But I'm not one of them guys.
Oh, you're definitely one of those guys, Pat.
I've seen your dots.
I've seen your dots.
I'm not.
Let me ask you.
Did you see any interviews or anyone from the Solana Breakpoint?
Did you see any of it?
No, I didn't.
Just me, right?
Just me, right? Just me, right?
Swear.
Yeah, just me.
Just me.
I mean, I know.
I know.
Because I'm telling you right now, it's night and day, baby.
It's actually night and day.
I don't know what to tell you other than that.
And they can't stand it. And jealousy is the worst disease anyone could suffer from.
We got books on the panel.
Books, I saw you're on the... Books, let me ask you something.
Don't call me books, please.
Don't call me books.
You were fighting Aster,
and now you're number one
in the Aster trading competition.
Don't call me books.
Call me number one going forward.
Number one.
Like, yo, number one, how's it going?
Call me uno.
What does it take to be number one?
Hey, number one, how are you?
Like, only call me number one going forward.
All right, so are you going to talk bullishly about Aster now?
I just want to point something out though, guys.
I might lose you guys because I'm walking through somewhere.
That Books was extremely aggressive towards Aster on our live streams.
And they put him on the trading competition.
So let me tell you something,
because you sucking up to someone like Paradigm
ain't going to get you anywhere with Paradigm.
Am I rugging?
No, you're good.
That's not what I'm doing.
No, but did you guys see that, right?
I mean, you guys see that, right?
Am I rugging? Yeah, yeah, really. guys see that, right? I mean, you guys see that, right? Am I right on?
Yeah, yeah.
That's why, right?
I mean, it just pays to be real is what I'm saying.
Oh, exactly.
You barking up the wrong tree then.
That's all big cause is.
What do you mean?
The realest.
The biggest.
I think you work for Paradigm.
Stop.
Undisclosed.
Leave me alone.
Can we just go one day?
I don't want to argue with you.
Please.
Please.
I don't want to do that.
We got, we got.
Oh, wait.
We have Monster.
Yo, Book, so how's the competition going?
Number one, how's the competition going?
Bro, I mean, it's going great.
Number one, as per usual.
I think so many people are pissed that I'm number one,
that they're going to get liquidated and run out of money because of it.
Trying to chase for that spot.
And I think my strategy will work.
Can you give us some hints on the strategy?
Yeah, I called everyone and asked them what they were doing.
They all told me they were longing.
So I went, activated it with a huge short on BTC, short on XRP,
short on ETH, short on SOL, used heavy leverage and printed.
Okay. used heavy leverage and printed. What do you think of the competition?
Are you bullish on Aster?
What do you think of it?
45 cents range.
48 cents.
Like 40s, I'll be bullish.
You see that, guys? Number one trader on their application. 40s, I'll be bullish. You see that, guys?
Number one trader on their application.
40s, I'll be bullish, G.
Keeping it real with you.
Is it nice to trade on, though?
Yeah.
Bro, when we were on the stream, Alex, when we were on the stream, it was 92 cents, 94 cents.
Somewhere in that range, bro.
Well, I just saw the whole market was dumping and Aster was holding steady.
I don't get the price action on Aster, bro.
I really don't understand.
It follows the market later, you know?
Later when they swap out of Aster and into Bitcoin, ETH, and SOL,
we'll say, why is the market pumping and why is Aster down?
I don't know. I didn't give up on it, bro, but obviously I'm not happy.
And neither are you.
I don't know.
You seem ecstatic about the trading competition.
Trading competition, I want to get number one just to piss people off straight up.
And it's good for us.
And it's good. I think it's cool, man
I mean like who else is doing some stuff like this books is have you seen hyper legal come out trading competition or
Or lighter come out with the trading competition like anyone I kept on no
They're completely silent like when's the last time you heard from Jeff from hyper legal
He tweets maybe once every three months and meanwhile the token the token's down 90% from when Aster launched.
No one's talking about it, though.
Bro, I hate that they try to hold Aster to the flames
while their product is tanking harder than Aster ever did.
And Aster didn't raise $500 million in two pre-sales like Monad.
It was still...
The chances you get in that Aster raise... Who even knows how much it raised, you know, $500 million in two pre-sales like Monad, it was still, the chances you
get in that Aster raise, who knows even, who even knows how much it raised, right?
But if you, if you even got into that fucking raise, right, you're up so many motherfucking
X's, right?
It was called something before Aster, I don't even, Apex or something, not Apex, I can't
remember what it was called, but it was called something else.
If you got into that pre-sale,
the token raise,
you were up so many fucking...
Now, if you got into Moana pre-sale,
raised $500, you're already down.
You had about 24 hours...
It never went up.
It never even went up.
From pre-sale,
it went up for about 24 hours, maybe.
I mean, when it first launched,
you were underwater.
Within the first 10 minutes. 12% is not up.
Yeah, well, within the first 5-10 minutes of it launching,
you were underwater.
And they raised $500 million.
You had everyone on this fucking application.
I need to come up with a new name for this Twitter extraction application.
This extraction site that we call Twitter.
Well, this place became an extraction site for we call Twitter. Well, this place has became an extraction site
for the venture capitals.
It used to be a place for retail to fucking win.
It used to be a place for retail.
It ain't a place to retail to win, guys.
I got bad news for you.
It's a place for VCs to take every last penny
from every user on this application.
I mean, through the use of fucking Monad,
and then you gotta look who's showing me that shit,
and you gotta think of how that... It is what it is. I think there's a new application among us I mean, through the use of fucking Monad. And then you got to look who's showing me that shit.
And you got to think of how that, it is what it is.
I think there's a new application among us.
I don't think we're going to be on this application much longer books.
I really don't think so.
I think people were fed up.
I think that they just announced what I've been saying they've been doing for quite some time.
I'm always ahead of schedule books. But they said they came out with like, hey, they're going to hand select Twitter accounts.
We're in there for crypto accounts,
but I knew they were already manipulating the algorithm
to share us accounts, not organically, right?
They picked who, like, did they say how they pick accounts?
Because I know you probably got all the awful in this.
I was on the Slack DM with them, and they handpicked the best accounts to give out the best advice and best content.
And how do they determine what the best account was?
You said you're the biggest space host in crypto.
You're the best.
No, no, no, no.
No, I'm just saying, how do they determine who the best accounts were?
I don't know.
I didn't get that far.
I know.
I know. I know Books get that far. I know. I know.
I know Books and I.
Books is number one space.
I'm number two.
It's interchangeable.
No, no, no, no, no.
But don't matter.
Number one trader.
Trader, that's what I'm saying.
You're number 90.
I think you're number 99.
Books is number one trader, K-O-N.
You're the space host.
No, we were in Dubai the entire time. Number one trader. number one trader, K-O-1, you're the space horse. No, we were in Dubai the entire time.
Number one trader.
Number one trader.
But regardless, right?
How do they select?
Right?
How do they select an account?
Like, oh, this account needs shield.
Why are they?
Better yet, why are they selecting accounts?
You know, I had hope too.
I was like, yo, he's going to win, blah, blah, blah.
And then he's like, books, I'm number 96. I was like, yo, he's going to win, blah, blah, blah. And then he's like, books, I'm number 96.
I was like, yo, who's number one?
He goes, Dr. Rolex.
I was like, yeah.
Like, if Dr. Rolex wins, we win.
Because it's the PFP.
He's in the community.
Like, it's good.
Any of us win, I'm happy.
Like, I don't need to be number one.
Alex don't need to be number one.
Someone in the crew is number one.
We're good.
And both of them fucking dropped the ball.
No, no.
Him and Panky were like
one and two. I don't know where it happened to Panky.
I think he quit. Panky's another
good one if he won.
Uh-huh.
But yeah, I mean, it's
hard because
you, um,
like it's like all or
nothing type thing.
I had like $10 traded volume.
Cause I didn't even trade.
I just sat there for the final day and then I forget what we were doing.
I had a plan on the final day, just full port.
And, uh, I don't know what the hell we were doing that day, but I wasn't, I wasn't trading.
That's for sure.
You'll see, You'll see.
Day one for ours,
some guy got up to 70k
and then by day three,
he was liquidated.
By the end of it,
the majority of the humans
were actually liquidated.
I think that a lot of people
are going to get liquidated
caring too much
about me being number
one bro like i'm gonna do i think i'm gonna do this every day alex like one like decent trade not
you know risk my money every single day and then at the end i'm gonna go balls to the wall
I mean, that's what everyone did.
i mean that's what everyone did i think i don't know i wasn't following it closely
I think.
I don't know.
I wasn't following it closely.
It was right, dude.
It was going on during blockchain week.
Like that one, we were super busy.
During Binance and Solana Breakpoint.
It was literally going, it ended during Breakpoint.
I do wish.
I wish we could add margin here.
I know.
You don't have much wiggle room, right?
You don't have any wiggle room.
Yeah, yeah.
They give you like a certain...
It's weird.
Dr. Rolick, what's your advice?
You were like number one.
You were number one and got liquidated, I think.
Yeah, so it was that one day that the whole market went red.
My biggest thing was I almost stopped trading.
I was up like $31K, $35K,, 36 K on my P and L. And I was in
first place. I think second place was like 25, 26 K I think. And then whoever ended up winning
was just right around 17 K P and L. But what, to your point, Alex, my, my, my fear was it was in
that last week of the competition. And I remembered that one dude that went from like in the beginning ran up to
like 70k. So if I if I played it different, I would be I would be thinking like books where
I'm I got a nice P&L. I'm in first place. I'm making small trades and not taking too much risk.
My my my issue was I thought somebody was going to take a big risk and maybe
somebody get catch a big lick and then take the first place lead so i left my positions open
they were all positive by the way all green and i went to bed and the next morning i woke up and
it was liquidation time so that that was my my mistake
how could they restructure it, you think?
You know, it's very tough, man, because the way it's structured when we did it,
I don't know about this one for the second part,
but the way they structured it originally was pretty genius.
But what I didn't realize is, like, the team P&L of the 70 humans
was going to be based off of, like, someone gets liquidated, that's a negative 10K P&L of the 70 humans was going to be based off of like someone gets liquidated,
that's a negative 10K P&L. And the second person gets liquidated 20K, 30K, 40K. So you got to
outrun as a team to get the extra money, the AI P&L and the AI, if they lose, they're losing,
you know, 100 bucks, 50 bucks, 20 bucks, and they're gaining 50 bucks, 100 bucks, it's like,
you know, small profit. So
you got to kind of think like a bot almost, man. You can't really be going for full port
trades because you'll probably get liquidated when the bots aren't. So on a team thing,
it would be nice if they had like a chat or a group chat or like a Discord where the 70 humans can at least be on the same page
to try to actually beat the AI. But yeah, I think, and then the incentive of, I think they took it
away from what the book's mentioned, but when you and I did it, Alex, when I read the terms
and conditions of the contest, the $10,000 was just free money. If you made 10 grand on that 10
grand, from what I understand, you get to keep everything over and above the 10,000 was just free money. If you made 10 grand on that 10 grand,
from what I understand,
you get to keep everything over and above the 10,000 they initially gave you.
So that was also what made me was like,
you know what, F it, it's free money.
I'm at like 20, 30K P&L.
Let me see if I could ride this thing up to 100K.
So I don't think it's the same for them this go around.
So that might help because, you know,
I was just trying to
go for the for the glory um other than that don't close your trades before you go to bed
and uh that's really it small space if you're ready and first just keep that first place lead
and i guarantee a bunch of people are going to be coming for you bucks so
there's gonna be a lot of people probably get liquidated too.
I feel like that's the trick.
Just don't get liquidated.
Get one or two good trades off,
let everyone else get liquidated,
and then just ride the, you know what I mean?
No, no, you're right.
If I stopped trading with the last two weeks
and just closed all my positions
and just left it where it was at,
I would have ended up in the first place.
I just had to stop.
I didn't stop.
I just kept going.
We got Baca on the panel.
What up, what up?
Baca, what happened?
Weren't you a mutant ape at one point
yeah yeah
you don't like no no no it's not that i do i just um
other things you know other things pay more i guess
there's more money other places.
Oh, shit.
You hear that, big guys?
That's cool, though.
I still like the Aves.
You know what I'm saying?
What pays more?
What do you mean, what pays more?
Between what?
Other things pay more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's still good
PFPs, though.
Alex, you know, I like
Baka. I'm gonna be nice to Baka.
If it was someone else,
I would go in, but I'm just gonna let it go.
No, go in. Let's talk about it. I'm number one.
Alex, when you're number one, you don't
worry about bullshit anymore, you know?
Let's talk about it, man.
I'm number one trader in the space.
I mean, there's nothing to talk about here.
Yeah, man, fair enough.
It is crazy, Alex, watching someone that's number one or number two or number three go to number 98 and then right back to number one.
I also think there's a lot of people that haven't started trading yet.
Yeah, people didn't trade for a whole first week.
It's like three weeks long or something when we did it.
I don't know how long.
Yeah, it's a long time, especially with just 16 or whatever, 10, 16, whatever it is.
It's a week.
It's a week.
It's like six days, seven days.
Oh, it's a week now?
And it was a lot longer for us, I think.
Oh, wow.
Wasn't it longer, Dr. Roto?
It was 30 days for us.
30 days.
It was too long, right?
Yeah, dude.
That was a problem.
It was too freaking long, man.
It was too freaking long, man.
And you had just people up and down.
And you had just people up and down.
Like Book said, you would see somebody that was in last place jump up to third, fourth place.
It was a lot of time.
They did give us a lot of time.
If they did it a week only, oh, my God.
I would have been good.
I'm a coochie.
You should have a minimum amount of trades requirement.
Oh, that would be good. Because would shut that would be good because yeah
you could just do one trade and just i really like i wish we could give advice on this like
like like partaking like helping them make rules and stuff i think they listen to you
i think i think they definitely listen to you i think now after the flipping bearish
I think now, after the flipping bearish, the DM started coming and we love your advice.
You met with the founder privately.
Amazing, bro.
It was amazing.
I don't know.
Who else did something like that?
I think you're not giving yourself enough credit.
I think if anyone wants anything to do with Aster, bro, they give you the keys.
What are you going to do? I just saw Burbs. Did you see Moonbirds to do with Aster, bro, they give you the keys. What are you going to do?
I just saw Burbs.
Did you see Moonbirds is partnering with Aster?
Let's get a motion Aster thing going.
I think they're doing a 24-hour stream right now.
I think they're live.
Who?
Spencer?
I think he's doing like a 24-hour stream, I believe.
I was thinking about AMA and Spencer books. Yeah, that's not
a bad idea.
It's a really good idea, actually.
He's better
than... What's his name?
Luka. He's good.
He's pivoting more than Luka.
No, he's doing better.
He's doing better. Yeah, I think he's really good, man.
And to be fair, I feel like
Luka had all the right people
on his side, bro.
That had a lot to do with everything.
I mean, that's all it is, right?
Yeah, he had a lot of the right people
on his side.
He's pivoted to politicians and shit.
That's what I'm hearing.
He's trying to onboard politicians.
He's going to end up IPO
in that shit one day.
He's going to end up
with a big lawsuit, bro.
The politician shit is not good.
Luka.
Spencer and Luka, though,
have onboarded more users
than BoardApe ever has.
That's what I'm getting at.
Nobody's onboarded more than Bored Ape, Alex.
Yeah.
Times are different.
If we can go back in time, Alex,
and you take Spencer and Luca and you put Bored Apes
and everything,
maybe they would have had a better chance,
but just the timing Bored Ape had was just perfect for them.
That's right.
And now we're seeing it whenever times are tough.
I'm watching these new players.
No one ever heard of them.
Who even heard of Luka when Bored Ape was doing his thing?
Me, you, Big Cuz, and Baca.
If you literally handed us the Board API
Club playbook
before Board API Club and we were the ones
that launched it at that time,
same outcome.
Anyone could have done it, in my opinion.
You don't think Gordon and Garda
are great.
I kind of agree with that, actually.
Yeah.
I mean mean it was damn i mean it was overinflated
how did they get every celebrity to use their pfp that's what i mean that was the biggest
we had every you know how you have celebrity coins like one celebrity shows the one celebrity
coin this was a coin that every celebrity shill.
I don't know how we ever got that done.
We ain't ever going to see that shit again.
Guys, this competition, you could only do Bitcoin, ETH, Aster, XRP, and Sol, right?
Like I can't go longing and shorting meme coins, can I?
I think you could.
I don't know. I think you could. I don't know.
I think you could.
Wow, look at Yamaha doing shit.
Yo, Yamaha does shit.
Books.
You seeing Yamaha?
What do you do?
He's moving a bunch of Yamaha
fucking freight. I don't know what I'm looking at. He's moving a bunch of Yamaha fucking freight.
I don't know what I'm looking at.
He's the biggest in the world.
No way.
Yep.
Come on.
He sells all the boat engines.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Just another motion holder.
This shit's pre-programmed.
You know who Jawdropper is?
Yep.
Bro, we were playing chess yesterday, books.
Did you spam the comment section on chess
with him trying to show whatever he's trying to show us?
Come on, man.
Imagine, dude.
I never brought it up on Space even once, brother.
Never.
I wouldn't do that.
I like Jaw a lot.
He, um...
Yeah, jump on a call.
I think he let me...
I think he let me win some games.
Then later on,
he beat me.
And then he said,
we should build out a chess game,
like a wager chess game,
like $1 USDC,
put it on chain.
But I think everyone would cheat.
Yeah,
we should play Alex.
Do you know who the best chess player of all time is?
Is this a Magnus kid?
Better than Magnus, but I've never seen them play before.
Like, way better than Magnus?
Street Debt.
Oh, yeah.
100%. Better than Emery Tate, too.
He sounds like he'd be a good chess player, bro.
I believe that.
I do believe that.
Yeah, Street Dut.
Yep.
Best Mortal Kombat in Tekken.
Best fighter.
Punching Bag Machine best.
Everything best.
Is he in the train of thought this with you?
No? No. No?
No, next one.
Probably break the record every time I punch those bags.
Are you allowed to be in it, Alex?
Two times or no?
It's all different people, right?
All different people.
Yeah.
It's good, dude.
They're doing good.
I think they're doing really good marketing.
Like,
who else is doing marketing like that, books?
No one, bro. I straight up got invited by
like the Aster
page.
Hey, who else is marketing like that, books?
No one. It looks like they're starting to
pay attention.
Well, they've been doing it.
You don't give that team enough credit.
I don't like the price action.
I don't like the price action.
But how can you even hate on their execution, man?
You can't. There's nothing to hate on.
It's better than any other team
on the market.
And it's not even close.
I don't get the price action.
Like I can't figure that shit out.
Do you think it's just them dumping it?
Or do you keep going back
to these hyper liquid whales? I'm like what?
I think it's them dumping
it to get rid of the
malicious actors. Like
it's just going to take too long that way
like i definitely think that they're dumping it to get rid of certain people
do you see cz's talking about binance square
what are your thoughts on binance square
same as your thoughts g Binance Square? Same as your thoughts, G.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Why did we...
Let me ask you something.
Why did we switch from Clubhouse to Crypto Twitter?
Why was there a switch?
Bro, so...
What was wrong with...
Everything becomes...
What was wrong with Clubhouse?
Everything becomes gatekeepy, Alex.
Everything.
When you give the power to the people,
they mismanage it worse than the system.
Worse than the people we're all complaining about.
You know, corporate world, the Rothschilds and all that.
They always mishandle it.
If we look back, forget about Clubhouse.
Before Clubhouse, the Bitcoin talk,
the forums where Satoshi used to post.
First, it was Satoshi. Then it was Satoshi and his close friends.
Then Satoshi disappeared and it was Satoshi's close friends.
Then one of them got main character syndrome and was feeling left out.
So he went to Reddit. A bunch of people caused division.
A bunch of people followed him to Reddit.
Slowly, people started to go from Bitcoin talk to Reddit.
Same thing there happened.
That same guy and his close friends started being gatekeepy,
left someone out of the group that started getting main character syndrome.
He migrated over to to we'll say
clubhouse and the same thing happened at clubhouse gatekeepy blah blah blah blah blah
some jackass migrates over to twitter starts blowing up on twitter same shit starts to happen
on twitter becomes gatekeepy it's just run by a small group of people that get all the influence, all the engagement, their way or the highway, and it just all gets destroyed from there. And that's what just has happened over and over and over again in this space, if that makes sense.
You don't think Binance Square has a shot?
No, I don't think it has a shot at competing with a Twitter or something.
No, bro, it doesn't.
Like, what does Twitter have?
Will you talk 100KOL on there or no?
If I went up there and I said, vote for Schillen,
I'm going to give away $3,000
to everyone that votes for Schillen.
I got red packets here.
Would you have won?
Probably.
But,
I mean, I don't even know who paid it.
You're the one who paid the most attention to that.
No one else even paid attention to that.
I just took notes.
I'm like, holy shit.
It goes back to my whole thought process of, like, indicators.
When I see someone willing to, like,
steal a tube of chapstick, right,
I know that they're willing, given the chance to rob the entire fucking bank when i see something small i have to
accept that exists in a larger scale so yeah i saw something very small but i'm like yeah that'll
exist on a larger scale and that'll look like a bunch of shit on a larger scale so i didn't need
to see what happens on a larger scale what are you talking about like when three people make a
handshake and all agree like we're all going to tell everyone to vote for Shillen and then everyone says, okay, deal.
And we go and then I go and say, vote for me instead, like that kind of thing.
All I'm saying is, so the problem with Binance Square is that whenever you join, there's almost no users.
But the way Twitter is now, there's almost no users.
It's almost at the point where it's like the same as crypto Twitter.
It's getting to that point of the only way you're going to get engagement if you say GM,
go tweet about something that's not GM or like a selfie or, you know, some type of Instagram ish type photo slash post.
You're not going to get any engagement.
I mean,
people,
people are,
I think are definitely dying for a new application to communicate on dying
for like,
just like a,
I don't know.
I just think we need something new.
I don't,
I don't think this algorithm is ever going to get fixed.
I don't think they plan to intend to fix it either.
I think they bought this app to do exactly what they did.
To hard shill through the use of algorithm manipulation,
their extractions, like Monad.
And that's the way it's going to be on this app.
And there's nothing you can do to change it.
They said it today or yesterday that they've got people now in buckets of like,
hey, these accounts are going to get shilled.
And I'm like, why are you guys picking?
Why are you guys picking?
Shouldn't we just naturally occur like it wasn't passed?
No, they pick it now.
I'm like, oh, okay.
This is great.
So you don't think it's Binance Square though?
No. No.
I definitely don't like when I do the Binance Square,
you know, 5,000 fucking people say,
can you follow me?
And then, hey, can you send me a red packet?
Like the amount of begging that goes on Binance,
like they've breeded a giveaway,
like just fucking community. They breeded thated that you know Binance Square exists since 2022
and the only reason we knew about it is because we're trying to backaster right
so we're like going on that that's what like what did they do since 2022 that
we've never heard of it you know I'm even using Binance and I like didn't like
take note of it you know we're't take note of it, you know?
We're only taking note of it because how bad Twitter is,
not because of how good Binance Square is.
You don't think it's a good idea to go back to token-gated spaces and Discord rooms and shit like that?
I feel like we were at our best,
and speculation was at its highest when everything was token-gated.
I thought that was the whole point behind like
crypto and its access and like like that once we put everything on the timeline
it became like a cesspool of that anybody could grab it that's when like the liquidity
became like fractionalized because everybody could do anything and that's like
goes against everything crypto is
i don't know Could do anything and that's like goes against everything crypto is I
Don't know
I haven't seen a new person crypto Twitter in months because I
Have seen any creators know you need new creators for new users to come we need no more creators we got
too many we saturated the space with creators bro i agree with that man everybody's a creator
that's no we just don't need no more blockchain and when i say create no one works together that's
the problem i'm not talking about like that's the other problem okay yeah yeah i get nobody works
yeah yeah i got you bro you're right like everyone wants to
be like you know the main dude and then like you end up not working together and yeah it's just a
mess oh listen at the end of the day bro if there's an opportunity to make bank with a group of people
i don't give a fuck who the main person is as long as we're all making the bank like why does it
matter bro who gives a fuck yo let's make money let's get this there's plenty to go around for everybody like why do motherfuckers gotta be
so greedy dog damn bro i don't get it i agree bro it's the fucking greed bro that shit irks me bro
makes me so mad bro that motherfuckers are just so fucking greedy and selfish bro that they just
ruin it for everybody it's it's not the it's not the greed it's that how low this is like their level of greed
it's like they'll be like greed at like such a low level it's like we ain't getting this we ain't
getting this thing to grow like this this token's not growing we got people that are willing to take
you know penny profit i'm like oh my god i might as well just be trading stocks like we ain't gonna
get any new users because we're already selling this
this coin because and there was nothing wrong with that one coin because we're gonna get this
other coin because we want to sell that one too it's just like man so rotational 50 000
coins a day problem you got no too many too many tokens too many coins too many every day dropping
too many phrases too many man you got to get rid of 99% of the garbage.
99% of it needs to go bye-bye.
I just feel like we've saturated this fucking...
I don't even know, bro.
It's very frustrating to even talk about.
But yeah, if anybody has any great ideas, you can be the boss.
Let me know.
Sounds like 100 milli. I'll build. You all can be the boss. Let me know. It's going to make 100 milli.
I'll build. You all can be the bosses.
We got Zoddy. What's happening?
Good morning.
Good morning.
You know, I'm hydrated, caffeinated, freshly ejaculated, lock, cock, ready to rock, looking at all at all the things clicking the buttons saying hello to my internet friends hello friends avn week in las vegas
porn stars everywhere fucking dms are on tilt girls fucking wearing their lanyards showing
off their assets and not the type that we buy, but maybe sometimes. You know?
Fun fact, Alex,
I just signed up for a Pornhub creator account.
Don't get excited.
My dickie has never been into Flicky.
It's not what you think.
But they do have creator accounts.
You're just like creating content.
You're filming other people.
It might not even be porn.
Might be a new meta.
Might be a new meta.
Maybe I'll go on there and make crypto.
Maybe you have a laugh on a wink.
You know what?
Porn doesn't have four-year cycles.
It's in cycle all year round.
But what if you go for a wink and then there I am?
What if you just go for a wink and then there I am?
The level of competition, level of competition is pretty high. Yeah, but what if you go for a link and then the level of competition level of competition pretty high
Yeah, but what if you go for a link and I'm not making porn and I'm just there and you have a laugh and a wink
I'll know if you're if you're cuz I'll see the graffiti mansion. I'll be like, oh, there's a Zoddy. Yep
Yep.
Yep, yep
Yep.
Yep.
I bet you've come up with some crazy narratives.
What are your narratives?
Narratives are what's selling it.
What are your narratives?
You know, you just have to wait and see.
But the point is I have officially...
Crypto nerds get...
Crypto loses its virginity.
Oh, that would do numbers.
That one would have... that would get billions of views
just name it that and then have some guy with glasses looking at a chart that's going down only
and then you might need to create a little creator chat and just just lob me ideas
and then the girl comes up hey honey are you doing okay? No, I lost my whole portfolio. I can make it all go away.
Oh, what are you doing?
Don't touch me there.
Oh, my God.
I got burned.
I got burned.
Oh, yeah.
Listen, it seems wide open.
Like, they're not out here fucking cooking.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm looking at the fucking creator landscape on Pornhub,
and I was like, did I just soldier boy my way into this industry?
You know his story, right? I mean, he fucking went to LimeWire
and just started uploading
you behind, like, every Beyonce
Jay-Z song that was popular.
And then you just heard, you! I'm like, what if I
just fucking stroll into Pornhub's Reels?
They have a Reels tab. They have a scrollable
tab that, like, it's all fat chicks.
Right? Like, what if I just
sashay my little
social media ass up in there, start pumping bags down the Pornhub timeline? tab that like it's all fat chicks right like what if i just saw sashay my little crypt my little
social media ass up in there start pumping bags down the pornhub timeline who's gonna stop i don't
know how many crypto users would be back in a wink but i'm thinking ahead imagine i don't imagine
remember they like to use the word imagine imagine all of a sudden there's 50 million wallets that were deployed on the Solana blockchain
directly to your subscription account.
And imagine it was super easy to get shilled by some chubby guy in your timeline.
So imagine it.
Definitely think it's new liquidity.
We haven't tapped into it.
Listen, do you ever do a wink and then you scroll
On a different platform for a laugh
What if you didn't have to leave the platform
Stay there
Laugh and a wink
Wink and a laugh
Cigar and a waffle
Smoke and a pancake
Blend a biscuit
Bong and a Bong and a Banana Blunt and biscuit.
Bong and a... Bong and a...
Bong and a banana.
I'm running out of things to say.
You know, people...
Do you think that people look down on porn, Azadi?
I think people look at porn.
People look down on it, but like, you know...
I can't escape my reputation, Alex.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, no matter, I went full Disney, I went full boxing, you know what I mean?
They're like, he still walks with a limp from all the dough in his pocket.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'll never escape the pimp reputation.
So I was like, what if, what if I just fucking limp my ass over here where it's socially acceptable?
And what if I just, you know, change the game?
That's what I'm thinking.
So, you know,
you don't have to,
you don't have to look up at it.
You can look down at it
just as long as you're looking.
Also, fun, fun, fun data, right?
I was like, oh, shit.
So everyone's like,
Mr. Beast, Mr. Beast,
oh, oh, Mr. Beast Financial Services
can't wait to get rugged.
Every Normie I know
is like texting me, right?
Oh, Mr. Beast. If Mr. Beast came in here right now, everybody be like, Mr. Beast Financial Services can't wait to get rugged. Every Normie I know is texting me. Mr. Beast.
If Mr. Beast came in here right now, everybody would be like,
Mr. Beast, act cool.
Act cool. Mr. Beast is here.
Let's all talk to him. I'd be like, fuck you, nerd.
What if?
Yeah, I said it, Jason. Fuck that motherfucker.
I was in Beast Games.
I won fucking Green Team, Team Captain.
Got cut from the show. Fuck that nerd.
Anyway, point is, I lifted a 10,000 pound boulder. I did that. beast games i won fucking green team team captain got cut from the show fuck that nerd right anyway
point is i lifted a 10 000 pound boulder i did that go check they i'm in the fucking they cut
me out of everything dude they had yo is that true bro i gotta see that yeah that's crazy yeah i
fucking beast games i lived in the fucking raider stadium allegiance stadium on the floor for four
fucking days they didn't give us underwear.
Bitches were crying in the corner. I was like, this is like adult Disneyland prison. This is
great. You know what I'm saying? Like, everyone else having a fucking cow, and I'm just sleeping.
We made a little camp by the fucking five million bucks. I was sleeping over there. They begged me
to be on that fucking show. Fuck that nerd. But let me get back to my point, right? I can tell
you stories about Beast Games. Anyway, I would have won that shit. Jake hit me get back to my point, right? I can tell you stories about Beast games.
Anyway, I would have won that shit.
Jake hit me.
The only way I did it, Jake was like, bro, you'll win that shit.
Anyway, so imagine Pornhub alone gets 150 million visitors a day, right?
With billions of views.
So, like, if you just become a creator that Pornhub pushes that's not porn you'd instantly be bigger than mr. beast and I you just hacked the whole system I don't know so I think mr. beast is one big ass I up man
no he earned it but like I remember I remember the first time he was like
Logan Paul Logan Paul Logan Paul Logan Paul Logan Paul Logan Paul Logan Paul
Logan Paul right like I remember watching it he was in the bedroom watching this. I get it.
But, you know, there's always a shortcut. There's always a shortcut. Maybe it won't work. I'm gonna
give it a shot. But I'm not making porn, Alex. That's not what I'm doing. I'm making a creator
account. What if, right? You know what I mean? You're just, you go to Pornhub and, like, maybe
you don't need to watch porn. maybe there's just hot girls doing fun things
a laugh and a wink you know i mean then from that video you can go to their accounts and you know
maybe that you wink it but you discover those hot girls through more streaming is already like like
like a like a porn hub hot girl like streaming website where you can actually interact with
them and not imagine you just go like you've seen the Pop Art Polaroid videos, right?
Imagine you go to Pornhub, and the first video you see is a Pop Art Polaroid video.
Even just that.
But yeah, all the things. Anything. I don't know.
But just imagine creating like hot, fun content that isn't porn,
and it's featured there.
What do you think, Jason?
I think that you should use your network of beautiful women and develop a website. Maybe it's on Pornhub that allows men to pay for their prep before a date, which I thought was a hilarious concept
that some woman came up with.
But I think it'd be even better this way.
So you literally can negotiate
some contractual relationship beforehand,
financial terms with these porn stars
and potentially do whatever you want,
dinner or whatever, just uh pay to
play no yeah i mean i saw that what is it called um fuck court courting yeah courting courting
exactly yeah i saw that a few times but but i think it's it's like silly because you know
everyone pays women for sex you know what i'm saying like if you're you got to be honest with
yourself like there's always some some cost to it i i find it very interesting i was driving this morning
thinking about like well why not lay out the contractual terms of it beforehand that makes
a lot of sense to me it's prenuptial for marriage dating you don't really do it i don't know i don't
think it's that bad it sounds insane but yeah it's like a lot of girls
won't make a seeking arrangements account because of the stigma but they'll join a you know courting
app because it sounds like they're not being a whore right so like as long as they feel like they
can lie to themselves about what really happened you know i mean like i think that's a great idea
yeah but like i'm saying though like with whores self self-proclaimed whores, why not set it up for them?
It's not just sex.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like self-proclaimed whores, they need dinner and food and stuff.
And there are legit dudes who want to be with them.
Like Mike, what's his name?
The guy who hangs out with your buddies.
Who?
The guy Mike, you know, the guy who married out with your buddies. Who? The guy, Mike.
You know, the guy who married a porn star.
You're talking about Big Mike from the podcast?
No, Mike that's on the podcast with... What's his name's brother?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're talking about...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike Malak.
Yeah, with Logan.
Yeah, with Logan. Yeah, with Logan.
Yeah.
But my point is, like, I don't know.
Just break it down simple.
Like, there's obviously an audience for it.
You know, and there's a stigma behind it.
You know, like...
You know, call it simping.
It's pretty funny.
Probably should be more positive
But that would be hilarious
I know, but it's essentially simping
But it's really funny
You can make it not feel like simping
Not simping
Alright
Anyway, dude
I like it
I have never been so disillusioned
As I am right now
On my timeline
dudes are launching tokens they have like 200 people viewing their post with like four likes
they're taking pictures of themselves when by bugattis with rms like this is so dead it's crazy
it's so good it's so dead like i'm like what are you doing dudes like i don't even like
are you at the rm store trying on a watch next to a bugatti like
because none of this makes any sense like stop it
yeah you're talking about the twitter timeline dude yes i'm just it's like one it's not even
cringe anymore it's like dude my tooth fell out
i've been posting on instagram jason right i don't know if you follow me there or not
me too i've been having more fun over there yeah yeah well i'll send me your thing i'll follow you
but like uh you know for me i used to get half a million million views just talking to
the camera right so like you know I was kind of getting down on myself a little
bit because like I'm getting like 10,000 40,000 you know I had one video that got
like 3.2 million views but it was like me jump-starting a door right like I it's
just like kind of random shit right but the Pop Art Polaroid is like you know
kind of living between 30 and 100k views, which for me is not very good.
Some people wish they could do those types of views over there. But, like, nonetheless, I'm just, like, you know, fucking around with the algorithm as I get ready to, like, do some other shit that I'm working on.
And then, you know, what is working and what's making it fun for me is, like, fucking girls love the shit I'm doing, right?
I didn't, you know, I stopped thinking about numbers in terms of real people because like 30 000 people is a big arena you know what i mean and so like there's even some
haters like my friend got pulled into her job and was like hey you know are you gonna do one of
those pop art polaroid things over there i was like oh shit they know about it huh you know what
i'm saying so i don't know like i i think instagram is a very interesting place i i know that
ugc content bringing the crypto topic
is fucking pumping over there.
Like, that's why all these normies,
they're literally sending me fucking videos
about this Mr. B's financial services rug
nonstop.
Like, is this real?
Should I buy it?
Oh, Super Bowl?
Is he going to announce it?
I'm like, you guys are the thickest
motherfuckers on the planet, right?
So, I mean, it makes me,
it makes me bullish because you know
the real money is when tiktok and instagram people and normies are calling right but the
crypto timeline i don't know what happened to this fucking community i mean these if you're in this
space right now you're fucking the last of a mohican at this point right like you are a fucking
soldier that's still showing up and like when you look around like it is a wasteland of motherfuckers who didn't make it
Which is crazy to me because you should have made millions and millions of fucking dollars over the last two years
I mean, I don't know how everybody's down this bet like we should be almost damn near what I wake up every day in a good mood
I'm like oh shit. I made fucking crazy money
What where's all the people who won? Yeah, but I think 80% of the people got nuked by Trump, Melania, and a bunch of other rugs.
Man, they really got caught hard.
They got caught on leverage, all this stuff.
It just smoked them.
Even Aster wasn't great for them.
They were tinkering around with, you know, using perps.
It just smoked them.
They just really got smoked hard.
Yeah.
And like I said, I'm saying 80-20, 80% lost
everything, or really down bad.
It may be more.
I'm net down on
Aster, on perps, all that.
You know what I'm saying? I can only imagine
what the rest of the community is like, because I'm not
that retarded.
Yeah, I'm down on Aster, but bad i both i bought most of mine around 80 cents
i'm like dc a little bit like it's to me i was like okay at some point i'm gonna get even on
aster right take my initials i'll wait for like four or five bucks or something and then i'm
holding long term anyway so to me it's just a different trade like okay so i'm down 30 percent
or whatever the fuck it is like who cares you
know what i mean like that's crypto you could be down way more you know like if it's down bad
enough it'd be an opportunity to buy but but they how do you guys they lost the whole narrative like
when i started in crypto it was like diamond handing bitcoin for the last i don't know three
or four years everyone has spent a lot of time destroying that narrative.
You can't hold crypto. A lot of people here, they just don't hold crypto. And I come to these spaces
to talk about Bitcoin. I don't care much about anything else but Bitcoin. But they just have
made holding Bitcoin the dumbest thing you possibly can do because everyone has such a high time preference they want
to make money so quick that they're just like degenerate gambling they're not investing and
it's very hard for me to coexist with that because like for me bitcoin is the easiest trade and the
hardest trade at the same time because you have to buy it when it's red, which people can't do. They don't
understand buying red candles. And you have to have conviction like you're you're going to buy
red candles all the way down. So like if Bitcoin does some of the things that people are predicting,
like it went to 70 or 60K right now, you'd be buying it from 126 all the way down to 60K.
You'd be DTAing your average purchase price potentially in half
so you'd buy down your 126 down to 60k that's real discipline and conviction in the long term
none no one does that anymore here the thing is literally no one like destroyed no one gets paid
to talk about bitcoin they get paid to talk about meme coins and then they buy bitcoin with it like well i don't even think they buy baka i don't even think they buy bitcoin anymore i i really
don't think the majority of people in this room on this stage have a lot of bitcoin i i mean some
do but i i really just don't believe it i i don't believe it i believe that they got absolutely
smoked speculating on on on vaporware it kind of became clear to me during
my first bear market right like i got into the space i didn't know anything somebody paid me
five bitcoin to fucking paint my house right like so you know the bitcoin is like 50k and i was
owning so many nfts at one point i was just like i probably should have this many bitcoins not this many nfts you know and so you know around when bitcoin was 18k i started scooping up bitcoin and
you know participating in like ordinal shit and making art for ordinal projects and like
stacking that shit up like i was stacking my nfts and even now like you know anybody who sits in my
office i the first thing i do about half the way through my first cup of coffee is i go
sell something that's stupid and i buy a little more bitcoin i don't care if the price is 126
i don't care if the price is 90k you know and i've been doing that since you know i don't know
about mid to late 2022 is that a year not that's not the the normal move and i have i applaud you
because i do the same thing it's why i I keep working. A lot of the 2017,
2015 vintage Bitcoiners I know.
You don't need to sell a pair of socks to pay your rent at the end of the
month.
You don't need to sell a pair of underwear to buy a meme coin and sell an
NFT to ape into Aster.
Like,
bro,
we're in a,
we're in a space today,
guys,
where someone literally needs to recycle their Coca-Cola can after they're done drinking it to put a little bit of fuel in their car, bro.
And that's really bad.
He's right.
And that's what I was going to say, though.
A lot of people stopped working because they thought, oh, I can trade meme coins and NFTs and quit my job.
And they have no free cash flow. They have no ability to
buy the dip. They have no capacity. They've just put themselves in the worst situation possible.
Even that's what I was going to say, books, my 2015, 2017 Bitcoiners, they quit jobs. They just
said, oh, we're not going to have chairs. We're going to hold our 300 Bitcoin that they have.
They bought cheap, but they don't
work. They've not they've not bought more Bitcoin. And then you have people like Gary, who's here and
his brother. They've gotten super conviction. They they continue to work and generate income.
They come up with new schemes to build and buy Bitcoin, you know, and listen, like, I would expect that Gary's brother is probably,
in terms of the Bitcoin he's purchased, he's probably in a negative position so that the
Bitcoin holdings are probably down, but he's got a solid strategy and he's continuing to buy.
That's what I'm saying. That's what you have to do in Bitcoin. That's my point.
But I don't know if his base is up or down at this point. I would expect it to be down.
I think you're right, though. We don't talk about it enough in these spaces where we talk about, you know, max gain situations, right?
And I have my neighbor.
I've known him since he was nine.
He's 19, right?
And so I sat down with him maybe six months ago and taught him how to trade nonsense.
And I got on his case.
I said, but when you trade the nonsense, right, and you're going to get a cheat code because I'm going to help you, right,
you've got to take the money and you've got to buy this, this, this, and this every day, right? I mean, my portfolio buys are not just Bitcoin. I like a lot of top 10 shit that I think you should stack, but the bulk of
that is Bitcoin. I say, this is the principle that you have to... So he does that, right?
I got on his case because he made so much money, he just bought like an AMG GT and it busts down
rolly, but he's 19.
I'm like, okay, you got it out of your system, bud.
Next time I make you a bunch of money, you should have bought, you know, another Bitcoin instead of the fucking car.
You know what I mean?
So he's learning, you know, and I have these conversations, I think, IRL.
But, you know, we should probably bring it up daily here for the person in the back of the room who doesn't know.
That's the point.
That's why i'm
here i mean i i literally come here to baka's point i'm not paid by bitcoin the bitcoin foundation
i'm not a core dev you know i'm here just trying to educate people um around holding what i believe
to be like a pristine asset that you get a chance to buy because like I I had a chance to buy
AOL when it started Facebook when it started you know Google when it started
Apple when it started like all these companies that Gen X built like I got to
see them and Gen X built Bitcoin and it's's like, I know it's hard because it's not sexy. Like buying something that is going to go to $250,000 is not going to change your life. I get it. But man, buying Melania coin and being down 98% is going to change your life. That is going to change your life.
Yeah, making money is one thing, keeping us the hard part.
Yeah, Bob.
That's right.
That's right.
What do you think about a coin like Monero?
I like it.
But, you know, I understand what's happening.
And it's one of the reasons I'm having meetings the end of this month,
the beginning of next month.
These are very important questions I'm going to ask some of who I believe to be the
most OG Bitcoiners in the world. I want to know if they're selling their Bitcoin and they're buying
privacy tokens. Because when you talk to me about Monero, and I've been around a long time,
I remember when Fluffy Pony got pulled off of his jet and arrested by three-letter agencies.
So, you know, this is not new to me.
But when you think about privacy tokens,
they essentially represent the anarchist money that was Bitcoin.
But now Bitcoin doesn't necessarily have those properties.
You know, it's highly traceable.
It's not very anonymous.
You know, it was always semi-anonymous. I think it's
seizable. Like we used to say it's unseasonable, unseizable, uncensorable money. That's not true.
That's not true. It's definitely seizable. It's definitely censorable because I've sent Bitcoin
to play a poker game with friends to a site, beat them in poker, and then tried to pull
the Bitcoin back. And I would get a message that says, this comes from a blocked site. Bitcoin's
done. If you were to mix Bitcoin in Samurai Wallet, I said this when it first came out,
if you're using mixers, you're essentially smoking your Bitcoin. And I don't know if that's going to happen, but if you mixed Bitcoin, you could have lost
your Bitcoin.
That can happen to you.
If you think you're going to operate in a dark world when it comes to Bitcoin, if you
think you're going to do things in an anonymous, non-track and traceable way and obfuscate
transactions and avoid the three-letter agencies, man, you're just a kid.
You're playing kid games because no adult working in size is going to do that. And so now we talk
about privacy coins. And I think that's the anarchist money today. That's the interesting
thing. And I want to know if Bitcoiners are selling 10,000 Bitcoin and they're putting it in privacy tokens.
Because I know some of them who I asked, the guys I respect, Adam Back and these guys,
not kids, people that have been here, my friends for a long time, they bought Bitcoin treasury
companies and they got smoked.
So I know they sold a lot of Bitcoin and they went into Bitcoin treasury companies because
they thought that's the adult thing to do, buy stocks.
And they got fucking smoked.
Jason, I so love, I hope you guys don't mind me bouncing in here, but I so love what you're saying.
I mean, there's so many topics that you've mentioned here that are worth discussing you know it's dawned on me that uh if everyone would have
just invested all the money they invested in litecoin including charlie i think charlie even
made the comment recently hey i should have just bought bitcoin i wonder what the price of bitcoin
would be today without all the friction without all the egos without all the egos. I mean, the narcissism in this fucking
industry is staggering. Okay. Fucking matches Jamie Diamonds narcissism. I mean, it's crazy,
man. Um, so look, I think, uh, the, the biggest comment was somebody bought 10,000 Bitcoin at
30 bucks and, uh, they haven't done anything.
And you know what? They didn't really understand their own thesis because if they would have, they would have continued buying.
They would have had the greatest job in history. They would be running an exchange right now, converting to Bitcoin.
And this is my bullish case for Bitcoin. I've been in four highly, highly disruptive events. It changes
everything. And every time the founders underestimate two things, they underestimate
how fucking long it takes. I mean, the fucking length it takes is always underestimated.
But also the impact they make over a very long period of time, they grossly, grossly, grossly underestimate it.
And that's why you're seeing guys like me come in here and my brother and pound the shit out of this thing.
Because today at 90, 88, 57, 75, whatever it goes to, I think it looks weak to me.
$57, $75, whatever it goes to, I think it looks weak to me.
Okay?
And the difference today is that you don't have a bunch of crypto bros with money that can put on a position here anymore.
They're broke, dude.
Everyone that's moved into Litecoin, built a Litecoin business, built a, you know, I've built a business in this industry.
It will pay me very well one day, but it's going to cost me $7.5 million worth of Bitcoin
at $57,000. So how long is that node 40 transaction going to play out for me where I make
$50 million on a $7 million investment or $100 million? I'm going to have to wait four or five
years at least. Now, what's my house value going to do in terms of Bitcoin
prices in the next four or five years? Or what's the price of my, you know, 100 grand I could make
maybe every six months? And you guys laugh, go, I can't make 100 grand in six months. Dude, it's
because you're not looking in the right place. Like, I can easily a hundred grand in six months. Okay.
There's jobs all over the place, man. There's work to do. So like the, there's, to me, there's two big issues with Bitcoin. One, the whales must stop pretending like they're not
going to sell. They are going to sell and we need them to sell.
And people that say they shouldn't sell,
you do not understand markets.
Okay, you need the dislocation between $300 and $3,000
to 90 is stupid, especially when 50% of it's priced
at the low price and there's no incentive to move.
And once they could move into these strategic reserves
and get all public and,
you know, smash grab with the big players.
Sorry, Carl, smash grab and have dinners with the big players, the ballers, which,
by the way, is the most boring fucking meetings on the planet.
They've all done their and they did it because they thought they could avoid the taxation.
It was a tax strategy, right? Look, I think on Monero, I think Monero will go the same way as
the strategic reserves. I mean, the message here is do Bitcoin, man. Do Bitcoin. Okay?
Now, by the way, on Monero, if you're going to do manera why are you a u.s citizen
might as well just go to puerto rico yeah you can't uh there's these traffic laws that uh
it's unfortunately no no but hold on if i leave i've been exploring this as a u.s citizen if i
leave um the money i made in the u.s i if I renounce my U.S. citizenship
and move to another country
when I spend that money
I have to pay tax still, Gary.
Dude, I know.
You're going to write a large check
before you even leave.
And if you don't claim
all your Bitcoin holdings
they're going to fucking go grab you in Puerto Rico
and fucking rip your head off.
They did it to Roger Ver in Spain and we don't have any jurisdiction in Spain.
That's right.
No, no, that's my point.
So this confiscation thing is bullshit, okay?
Like you will get confiscated if they come and stick a cig in your face.
You're going to go, okay, yes, sir, Mr. Federal Agent.
Or sit in jail until you – you know, like the whole thing about the Silk Road founder that, you know, he went to prison and went to prison for life.
If you don't think that he has private keys that he went to prison with, you're a fucking, you're just a moron.
So when he came out, you know, I think, you know, he's very wealthy now.
You know, he got pardoned and he was able to get those private keys gary you know ggs you know but he was willing to go to prison guys for life
that's my whole thing he they didn't maybe they didn't seize all of his bitcoin but he was going
to prison for life that's my point so the trade-off is you know we all trade money for time or time for money
and i'm not talking about a job here when you do the wrong thing you trade your time for money
yeah that could be a bad marriage bad relationship bad business yeah you. A great business that you can't liquidate.
I love what you said about Node 40 because I'm in the same boat.
I put $4 million in a business in 2017, and I'm about to realize an exit now.
But I'm scratching my head going, if I would have just bought Bitcoin in 2017 and just held it, I wouldn't have all this brain damage.
I've been actively working on this business with the founders since then. Did I make, am I really making more money? You see what I'm
saying? Like, did I really make more money by doing that? Or should I just bought Bitcoin and
held it? Yeah. So anyway, man, like that's why I come to these rooms. I don't hang out with
Bitcoiners much anymore because I, you know, I enjoy listening. And these guys here, man, like that's why I come to these rooms. I don't hang out with Bitcoiners much anymore because I enjoy listening.
And these guys here, Gary, are still working.
Azadi, Alex, Books, Michael, Big Cuz.
I don't know Baca, but I know these guys.
They're working their asses off.
And it sounds like Azadi's buying Bitcoin.
These guys are very successful.
But like, you know, you can't just sit back on these investments and think, oh, I made it.
You know, because as far as I'm concerned, you get these red candle pullbacks and these bear markets.
And, you know, I said the cycle is still here.
People are saying the cycle is gone.
What the fuck are we talking about, Gary?
Is the cycle gone or is the four-year cycle still here?
So it sure feels like a four-year cycle.
Well, actually, I don't really believe there like a four-year cycle well actually uh i don't really believe
there is a four-year cycle i think you guys make shit up that that fits a nice narrative and you
look backwards and you go oh look man we have a four-year cycle because we mined bitcoin well
when you were mining 5 000 bitcoin a day awesome. But you're not mining any Bitcoin today. Like 450, there's one guy buying 450 fucking Bitcoin every day, an individual.
Right.
So right now the block reward is 3.125 Bitcoin every 10 minutes, guys.
And Gary is saying, like, that doesn't mean anything.
Who cares?
There's some guy who's buying 10 Bitcoin every 10 minutes.
Yeah.
You know, but when we say there's a four-year cycle, from my perspective, Bitcoin still has a programmatic monetary policy, still has a four year halving cycle that lines up with the presidency.
That's why I'm saying like the macroeconomics that affect all stocks, bonds, currencies, commodities will affect Bitcoin.
And that that is a cycle to me. That is the cycle. And it just lines up rather well with the U.S. presidency, which I
believe has a macro impact on the whole world. So Jason, you don't subscribe to the 5.2 year
business Global M2 stuff that Rob Paul Bings has talked about? I mean, I think M2 is important.
And I think it does drive some of this discussion.
My point is really about just the way Bitcoin is engineered, Azadi.
There's lots of things from the macro side of the world that affect its price.
And there is a cycle related to that.
It has to do with the U.S. presidency and the halving that both line up together.
That's my point.
And it's not priced in. It's not, I had that argument back in 2019, 2018, is the having priced in? No,
it's not priced in because there are so many unforeseen events that happen that create these
cyclic moments, these kind of big macro events. And they're hugely impactful to the markets in general.
So I think what's important for the trenchers that are listening, right, because a lot of us are,
you know, daily Web3 participants. A lot of us are trenchers. A lot of us are using
our favorite trading bots. A lot of us are, you know know i know a lot of people here leverage trade everybody here does all the things or some of the things right i i trade cross chain seven
chains at a time like i'm i'm out there looking for i've hit 6 000 x's in the last two years
right so i find the dog shit that goes fucking crazy you know what i'm saying but i think you
know my takeaway from listening to you and gary morning is, guys, make sure when you're making those gains that you're not just buying GRT3s or whatever it is you buy or only JPEGs.
I'm not saying you can't invest in the culture.
But to me, JPEGs are trophies of success.
And Bitcoin is the point.
And I'm 40, right?
And every time I buy Bitcoin, I'm thinking about 50-year-old me, right?
I'm like, this is not for me now.
This is for 50-year-old me.
That's what I'm paying, right?
And I think that is when you can get out of, you know, the terms of wealth thinking, right?
Not everybody here is there.
So I just want to, like, connect what you're saying because you guys are big dogs, right?
But it's like when you can go from month to month to annual and you can go from annual to fucking, you know, four years,
and then you can go from four years to 10 years,
I mean, that's how you're getting wealthy,
when you start thinking of your life plan and your finances
in those different sectors, right?
And so, you know, that for me is like the Bitcoin
and certain things like that, for me, is the 10-year plan, right?
Anyway, I just wanted to like bring it.
I just, I just realized I didn't follow you, but I just, I just hit the follow button. That's fucking brilliant, mature.
Like that's the way you guys got to think about it.
Okay.
Like I know a lot of rich people that can't ski down a fucking mountain slope.
Okay.
They can't ski down comfortably a blue and have fun okay or go scuba diving or jump out of
an airplane or go have sex with some crazy chick you don't want to wait till 67 dude what you want
to do and the grind most people are on they're taking so many risks or none at all by the way
both of those are just wrong okay no risk No risk, fucking stay in your house,
complain, work at McDonald's or, uh, you know, just be stupid. So, um, the point I'm trying to
make is when you start thinking about, wow, 10 years, I'm 50. This is going to be worth, this will be worth a
shitload of money when 10 years from now. Okay. And silver and gold. I bet you can't even, I bet
you can't even really quantify what Bitcoin's price will be in 10 years. And I'm not, I know
this is, I can't, I can't, I can't, I know it, but I'll tell you, I'll tell you something. No,
I cannot. And I, and you know, the truth, Jason? Not one motherfucker in this industry has done it, dude.
Not one, which I find fascinating.
But it'll be higher, right?
Well, it could be lower.
Ten years from now, you think it'll be lower?
No, it could be.
I'm just saying it could be.
It's not a zero chance.
It's not a zero chance.
But I look at gold and silver and go, dude, we made fun of these people.
You Bitcoiners are all stupid.
I did, 100%.
These people held on for so long for their thesis to come through.
Their thesis is, hey, the U.S. debt, all currencies collapse, and they're getting paid their day.
You just got to be patient
though, man. I mean, you have like I sold thirty two dollar silver. I don't give a fuck about it.
It doesn't bother me. OK, I actually wonder what it would be like trying to sell silver right now.
I'm not saying you couldn't. That's a triple in a year and a half. I got sixty six thousand dollar
Bitcoin for it. Am I unhappy with that? You know, I actually think the price
of Bitcoin, you guys should all be celebrating. There's no crypto bros and this thing's going to
go test 79 or 80. I think that's awesome. Now I get to plan. Oh shit. You know, I got some deals
over there. Maybe I can accelerate the liquidation of those deals. Somebody wants to buy a fancy car, I'll sell you one.
I'll sell you a really nice house for a discount. I would move everything into Bitcoin. I'm 67 years
old. I would literally move. Would you rent your house? Yeah, I'll rent it back from you.
I'll rent it back from you and pay you 7%. Jason, let me just say one thing though, Jason.
I had meetings with three bankers yesterday, a trust guy, a head of a bank, and the trader.
I do all my own trades through this bank.
I have to sign a little piece of paper.
And I said, hey, guys, I'm in some bonds.
This is why I can be so positive, okay?
You guys have me in some treasury notes because is why I can be so positive. Okay. I'm in, you guys have me in
some treasury notes because they loan me a lot of money. You got me in some treasury notes.
You don't, you value my house at 8 million. It's worth 14. That's what the tax man says. So you
should at least give me that much money for the mortgage. And they're like, well, it would change
your two and a half percent rate. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. If I can get more money that's
cheap. Now I wouldn't pay 8%. Okay. But, but the point I was trying to make to them, I said,
look, I have half of my money by your determination has to be in those treasuries.
Treasuries are paying three and a half or 4%, whatever. What if you, I want you to go back to
your risk department and slam and ask them to slam it into STRC. Now, think about this, okay?
These three bankers walked away. One, they did not know about STRC. In fairness, it came out in July
of last year. But I said, look, they're paying 11%. It's more secure than treasuries. It's
collateralized with Bitcoin, okay? You go to your risk department and tell them,
I want to flop all that over that you have me in treasuries. It's, it's a chunk of money.
I want to stick it into STRC. And their biggest comment was, well, if it's going to go into an
equity, we probably can only do a 75% loan to value. Well, shit, I don't care. Right. And
they're like, Hey, isn't that part of micro strategy? I said, exactly, dude.
You're already loaning me money, and I'm sitting on micro strategy.
So why wouldn't you do this on the preferred?
They had no answer, Jason.
Now, this is what I think is getting ready to happen.
This guy is going to go, wow, dude.
We could make so many of our customers happy.
Cost them nothing to do this, by the way.
They still make the same fees, and I'm spending off 11% instead of sitting there. Oh, and by the way, I have a 17%
tax bill instead of my bond rates. So the point I'm really trying to make is these new products that are coming out are going to give Bitcoiners who aren't fucking, you know, Jesus Christ purists.
Like, you know, they have to have Virgin Mary blood or something.
These instruments are, one, opening the eyes of the bankers.
One, opening the eyes of the bankers, okay?
Okay?
Like I'm showing them how stupid they are
because my real message to them is,
hey guys, if you don't do this,
I'm gonna have to go somewhere else.
The spread's too big, man.
Seven fucking percent is a big number on $5 million,
right, forever, okay?
Like 10 years, five years.
So anyway, I just, I think it's really, really exciting. And we need these
Wall Street products to be able to, one, you need all the Wall Street products for distribution.
Okay. The Facebooks and the Amazons that Jason was talking about, I missed all those opportunities
because I didn't understand what was happening. But if you look at those opportunities, every one of them are around a centralized platform. And we go out of our way to go, oh, it's decentralized. It's so awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. Okay, if you're next door to me, and I've got your phone number and your text, or I know Bruce over in Saudi Arabia, he's got a bunch of Bitcoin, but I want to buy a fucking car.
Okay, and he's not selling any cars.
He's just selling Bitcoin.
Well, it does me no good, man.
You need 8 billion people using this, and the only way you're going to do it is through centralized platforms that are monitored.
I mean, dude, we've been monitoring money forever.
Forever.
And they've been confiscating money forever.
That's why we have guns, dude.
Like that's the beauty of America.
We have guns.
I mean, I was at a trade show in Naples this weekend,
and they were talking about self-custody.
I can't believe I got put on this panel
because I ended up making the panel look bad.
I didn't want to, but I'm like, you guys are just,
they're literally saying, hey, if you don't self-custody, you're not a real Bitcoiner.
And I had more Bitcoin than probably everybody in the fucking room combined.
I'm like, what are you guys talking about? Why did we meet in the hotel?
Okay. If centralization is so bad, why did 800 people show up in a fucking central location?
I drove four hours to be there.
So, you know, we're, we're kind of not making some sense. What we need is quit fighting with
each other. And you got, you know, the hustlers, I love you guys hustling. I think that's awesome.
Just keep pounding this shit in, dude. I'm telling you in eight to 10 years,
you're going to be so fucking more powerful than your peers. And that's really what you're going to be so fucking more powerful than your peers and that's really what you're
competing with you one you got to lift yourself out of your peer class and then you enter into
another peer class and then you compete your way up that fucking peer class jason knows what i'm
talking about and it's it's a fun game too guys it's a fun game if you like to compete whether
it's pinochle or cards or football, it's the same game. It's just fucking
nonstop 24-7 if you want it to be there. I personally, what's the price of Bitcoin today?
I haven't even looked. See, that's the right mindset, man. Anyway, all in there.
No, I love everything that you said, Gary. and I appreciate you being so honest. Like when I ask things like, would you rent your house?
You know, these are strategies that are not they're not common.
They're novel.
These are things that very wealthy people are having to change their whole perspective.
And this is just like a Bitcoiner position, because Gary's saying I'd rather sell my house and rent, have the freedom of being able to move around, not have all the liabilities associated with a house or even a house and a mortgage and just own Bitcoin.
I know that's what you mean.
And I love that kind of stuff.
I'd pay somebody if somebody paid me the 14.
Look, first off, I've lived in maybe 30 homes.
I don't think I've owned more than six homes.
OK, like I go where the opportunities are and where I want to be.
And if a zip code stops fucking being nice to me, I fucking move, dude.
So fast it'll make your head swim.
Why would you stay in a fucking house with a toilet overflowing?
No, you would leave.
You would either fix it or leave.
You can't fix your states.
So like when I hear people going, oh, I'm in California,
dude, I'm grinding. I'm like, fucking get out of there, bro. Like, you're not a prisoner.
Fucking leave. Come to Florida. We're awesome here. There's so much hustle down here. It's
stupid. So and we have four years to make a shitload of money, guys. You have four years
to make a shitload of money between all the immigrants not being able to work.
And now people should be able to raise your prices right now.
And if you're just trading, then just be the greatest fucking trader you can possibly be.
That's all you do. And know that it has a lifespan of a fucking, you know, NFL quarterback.
and know that it has a lifespan of a fucking NFL quarterback.
So it's a fucking journey, man.
I don't know anybody that can trade 40 years
and not blow up or blow up their whole family.
It's a tough fucking way to make a living, I got to tell you.
I did it for 20 years, dude. And massive positions.
And it's awesome when it's going well.
But after a while, it's like, God damn, dude.
All I do is watch the news.
I love y'all space, man.
Appreciate you.
Alex, you're gay.
No, I'm going back and forth with the comments section
I'm just saying you're gay
The guy's ridiculous
That's exactly right
Because this is too logical, too interesting
Too intelligent, so fuck you
Ridiculous is too much money
I've always defined it that way.
I don't know who said it.
I am so fucking ridiculous and stupid.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And buy hard assets too.
Like I used to be all Bitcoin, but you can buy the right things.
Like rare Porsches, blue chip art, the right properties.
You still have to play the financial game here because it's very hard to
safely lever your Bitcoin. So if you're just sitting on Bitcoin,
there's a thousand scammers just trying to take everything you got.
Hey, Jason, speaking about art, I was thinking about, I've never sold any of my rare art.
I was thinking about, I've never sold any of my rare art.
But I was thinking about launching a program and basically do a Michael Saylor.
Offer my art out at some minimum.
I have a minimum price.
I won't sell it unless I hit a number like that.
But over five years, if the price of the art hasn't doubled, you can give it back to me and I'll give you an 8% coupon on it for the five years if the price of the art hasn't doubled you can give it back to me and i'll
give you an eight percent coupon on it for the five years that's interesting you know you you
just liked and i'm not i'm not this is the truth you you just followed one of i believe the most
talented artists that are around right now that are really relevant and it's azadi so check him
out like the guy's really doing great things.
Great artist.
Awesome.
You doing digital or physical?
Physical art.
Cool.
Cool, dude.
I'll look you up, man.
He's very good, Gary.
I like to paint my house on repeat.
He's like a, this guy's like a 2026 Basquiat.
I've been painting my house from top to bottom for a number of years took a
break just redid it recently you know about look coin so I did a whole look
a coin motif mansion and a fashion show and help build the community over there
and then I'm doing a project right now called pop art Polaroid where I bought
an 18-wheeler of canvases got a great deal
It's like 5,000 canvases for a 20 grand like 200k
Yeah, so I'm taking people and I'm turning them into
Pop our Polaroids would call it just like you as like kind of a Grand Theft Auto s character in front of the graffiti mansion
in front of the graffiti mansion which is an internet iconic location you know uh which then
Which is an internet iconic location, you know
has pop art flair and then we do a whole austin powers-esque photo shoot like if austin powers
hugh hefner and andy warhol had a baby and that baby ate a lot of cheeseburgers that's probably
kind of the vibe right um and so you know it's back to making content which i haven't done in
maybe like four years used to manage a kid by the the name of Jake Paul, built some cool stuff in boxing, right?
And, yeah, now I'm just fucking over here shooting hotties and making content with people, you know, pushing the look coin.
It's awesome, dude.
Hey, if you ever see another truckload of canvases, let me know.
I'll take them all.
I'll check them all.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, let me know.
Yeah, let me know.
I have this little strategy.
I have this little strategy.
I just buy like 100 canvases at a time, stick them in my garage, and then I have no excuse
not to go fucking stick paint on it.
Otherwise, I'll be lazy.
Yeah, I'm trying to.
I'm trying to prove that if you do something for 8,000, 10,000 hours, you can get good
at it you can get great at it actually cool so all i'm trying to do you post about your painting
at it.
You can get great at it, actually.
Cool.
So all I'm trying to do is-
Do you post about your painting?
i post i mean i post some of the some of the you know while i'm doing it or when i'm finished uh
i'm not i don't matt you know i'm not pushing it i'm not trying to sell it actually my brothers
wanted to buy some i'm like dude i'll just sell it when i'm dead okay the more I produce I think production is key I think you know I started
I started somebody offered to buy a piece from me I'm like one it complicates my world right I'm no
longer doing the art now I'm thinking about oh what's this going to be worth and that's just not
what I'm trying to do two I don't have to sell it, right? But three, I ask myself, wow, why didn't anybody ever sell their art?
And the reason is they sold it.
It's easier for me to give it away, but I think most people sold art because they had to.
Oh, yeah.
My whole goal is 5,000 canvases, 5,000 collabs.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so the whole thing is like five thousand canvases five thousand
different people that i make a canvas to and give it to them and i do a photo shoot with them and
we have a whole like reveal ritual we built like a pulley system and they got the red sheet that
comes off of it we have a little confetti party in there and everybody's stoked everybody you know
everybody likes themselves right so when you're for me it's like i would never hang a painting of
myself right in my house but like you know maybe a cartoon version of me
they came with an experience you know people do that you know i'm with you i walk into somebody's
house and they have a picture of themselves i'm like wow that's quite interesting yeah but the
caveat is if i made you into a grand theft auto character and it came with an experience and you know, it's not so ancestral that it's just like a photo of you on a 24 by 36.
Right.
It's a little bit different.
I mean,
like there's a story behind it and it's fun and it was custom made for you.
And you know what I mean?
Like people,
people are stoked on it,
you know?
Yeah.
Just send me a link or I'll go,
I'll go to your page and take a look,
man.
It sounds really cool.
Yeah.
I'll,
I'll fire you off my Instagram where we mainly post that stuff.
Hell yeah.
And send me your art, man.
I love seeing people working on stuff.
And yeah, actually, you know Motion, right?
Like the community here in the NFT.
So Columbo, who's the artist behind Motion,
was the plug on the canvases.
So I'll follow up with him and also his plug
and see if he's got any more coming in.
Awesome, man.
Good to get to know you.
Hey, Azadi, my Instagram's private.
Would you request so I can follow you?
It's kind of all locked down.
I did.
I requested to follow you.
Cool.
Let me go see if it's there.
Alex is still gay.
He's just super gay, dude.
Just sitting there.
He's got me working for him.
Got Gary up here working for him.
Just out here.
I'm just learning.
I'm just learning.
And you know what?
I almost didn't come back here because what you did to me last time I came in this space.
Did some of you were here?
This person?
Yeah.
Solana Sweeper.
He didn't like the way he was talking.
How old are you? How old are you, Jason?
I don't care if people are contrarian,
aggressive,
disagreeable. I don't care.
But if you're dismissive to me, I'm gonna
smack the fucking shit out of you.
That's not okay.
You don't go to me.
No, no, we're not gonna talk about that.
Michael, go ahead.
Fuck you, dude.
What?
I don't even remember the conversation.
I do.
But the fact that you let Solana Sweeper get under your skin.
No, he didn't.
You did.
Because I care about you.
Me? Yeah, I care about you.
Oh, I should have.
I should have.
I should have.
I should have.
I should have.
I should have.
I should have. I should have.
I should have.
I should have.
Alex.
Alex.
I think he called you the gay word.
Yeah. It was Soul Sweeper. It was Soul Sweeper. Yeah. No, no, no. Sol. I should have. I should have. I should have. I should have. I should have. Alex. I think he called you the gay word. Yeah.
It was soul sweeper.
It was soul sweeper.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Solana sweeper.
I care about you.
I don't care about you.
Solana sweeper.
If someone did that, I'd be like, no, you're not going to talk to Gary like that.
You're going to answer the question and then we can move, you know, but you're not going
to be dismissive.
That's, that's what's wrong with this space.
This guy probably.
The respect in this space doesn't exist.
This guy probably, again, same old shit.
Because I'm going to see you in a week, books in a week.
Nobody's going to act fucking stupid.
You're all going to just be friendly like I am.
This person would never talk to me like that in real life.
Never, dude.
People say shit here that if they were in a meeting.
In fact, i meet people i'm like oh wow
dude you come off a lot more uh you know sturdy on spaces than you do in real life i mean it's so
hilarious yeah everyone's an authoritative figure here yeah jason that's why i just learned to like
professionally crash out like i've used to be like all nice you know coming from the influencer world and i've just progressively over the last four years been like the second somebody
said something sideways i'm like shut the fuck up i mean it's just like it works you know i don't know
i i was i was actually i was around people so i couldn't do it but i do the same thing now
like i just i act completely unhinged and i'm in my compliance office on monday they're like
you can't say those things. You represent
the public pension.
I'm like, yeah,
it was probably wrong. I'm sorry.
It doesn't work for everybody.
I'm just joking with you, Alex.
It did piss me off, though.
I just can't stand when
people are dismissive.
It's crazy talk.
Crazy, man.
It's Thursday night. Go out man. It's Thursday night.
Go out and get some ass, bros.
Get some ass.
Well, no, it's Thursday evening if you're
in the real part of the world.
It's 3 p.m.
Hey, it's still a morning for me
for four more minutes.
All right.
I'm headed to the gym.
Alex, I did this.
Hold on before you go because I'm going to drop this on you.
I want you to try this.
You're a very fit guy.
I'm not.
You are, and you take this stuff seriously.
and you take this stuff seriously.
This morning, I did a VO2 max test
where you wear the respirator
and have to exercise for 19 minutes
and they increase the intensity of the exercise
and then assess your respiratory capacity,
like your force vital volume and stuff.
You should do that test.
It's really cool.
Jason, while you're optimized to the gills
I'll just grab a bag of onion rings what no I mean you're worried about all the nooks and crannies
Jason let me tell you something about Alex I'll turn onion rings into protein Alex has got
testosterone leaking out of his ears he's got peptides leaking out of his nipples. Well, I think he's good.
Jason, I've typed up a post.
I took the time from everything I've learned from you about the Clarity Act.
Yeah, Micah as well.
I pinned it up top.
I saw it.
It's excellent books.
Micah and the Clarity Act are very dangerous.
Very dangerous for you citizens.
It'll destroy this market. The Clarity Act needs to be passed,
but it has to be revised. When it's passed and revised, it will be exceptional. But right now,
you're inviting 100 years of death and destruction. There's a book Gary recommended.
It's called Three Felonies a Day. This is a felony trap. Make no mistake. Each of you commit three felonies a day in the United
States. It's just whether they want to pick you up and put you in jail for it. The whole financial
system is set up that way. You commit three felonies a day. Three felonies a day. The
Clarity Act is an extension of that. It allows them to put you in prison for wire fraud,
all types of crazy shit associated with crypto
you are a absolute retard if you support that isn't it sad that we're getting excited for etfs
to pump our bags clarity act to pump our bags literally all the wrong things that crypto was
like made to be against is now catalysts that we're excited to pump our value it's sad and
that's why people are talking about monero books that's exactly what it is there's this it's it's
like this binary thing the the counter argument to what's happening right now with crypto is monero
yeah now we have peter's trying to launch a token oh yeah, yeah. Peter's coming out with his – although he built his old brand.
I don't get Peter.
Alex, Peter Schiff was accepting crypto in 2017 for gold.
But I can't take a lap on him because, to Gary's point, I was making fun of that boomer a long time ago.
And lo and behold, he had his day.
His beloved gold went from $1,700 to $4,000 and change.
It's still an absolute disaster against Bitcoin.
I only succeed to the fact it hasn't been essentially devalued to its industrial metal price,
which was my prediction, that gold would be worth what it's worth to put into computers and and telephones
i can't believe it's four thousand dollars an ounce
maybe we'll get peter in here and he can tell us about how his uh stable yeah he's not gonna
say he's scared i feel like alex like on some real show he knows who we are he's heard his
faces bro we know too much about crypto we got too many smart people
i wouldn't want to pitch the idea in front of smart people i have had a lot of holes in the
argument which are like times when i heard him talk about it i wouldn't want to do that i wouldn't
want to bring in this environment there's too much it's too we're too to the point i don't blame them
i would go on you know if i'm if i'm to raise capital, I'm going for the softest targets.
I'm going to dog and pony show everything, and that's how I'm going to raise.
He does debates with people that are going to ask him what his favorite cartoon is
and what his favorite flavor of ice cream is.
I had him screaming on TV, man.
That's not true.
I was laughing at that.
This was the old Peter.
Yeah, new Peter.
He's going in for his raise, Jason.
I got you.
I got you.
He's been a big guy.
White glove services.
Yeah, but don't get fooled.
He lives next door to Brock Pierce and all these OG Bitcoiners in Puerto Rico.
He has Bitcoin.
He's been investing in infrastructure plays.
I've seen him on cap tables of all types of shit coins and stuff so he this is a game he's playing with you
guys well what's it i don't what does he get at though i don't understand the game uh because
he's got to stand behind gold because he's got you know he's got a big business there he still
sells shift gold he can't let everyone just buy crypto. He's got to continue to support Shif Gold.
I get that.
Does he...
I don't know.
I didn't really pay attention.
Does he parade around as if he won the debate against CZ?
Or does he take the L?
I think it's just one of many debates.
He's debated everyone in the space.
I don't think it's that big a deal to him. He wrecked in that debate he got wrecked by by everyone max kaiser destroyed
him before like i've destroyed him uh i i think he uh i think oh uh uh did he run i can hear you
i don't hear him i mean you're trying to back gold versus bitcoin
it's not a debate you can win
yeah but that gold bar thing
pure comedy it was amazing
yeah you can't prove that it's a gold bar
is it real
I got a certificate
this certificate says it's real
I'm going to chip off a little bit of this bar,
give you a couple of what I think are grams,
and that's how I'm going to pay for this food.
That's crazy.
It looks like a way of people to store value and transact value.
Alex, look what they're doing right now with Silver Boom.
They're coring out the middle of silver bars,
and they're just loading them with lead.
Like it's –
I got 14 metric tons. Yeah, that's what's happening. I got 14 metric tons.
Yeah.
That's what's happening left and right.
I mean,
I just bought 14 metric tons of silver.
I've added it to my stock.
It's an incredible,
it's an incredible nuisance to store,
but now I've got to make sure it's all silver.
Cause lo and behold,
there's a huge issue with them putting lead in it.
Bro.
Lab made gold is the end of everything.
Like we're, it's going to be war, bro. They just did that. They just made gold is the end of everything like we're it's gonna be war bro look they just
did that they just made gold yeah they're not recognizing it though they're not they're not
recognizing it that's something you go missing for overnight when you figure out how to make it
the thing is they're not recognizing it same with like the gold discoveries in uganda in china they're
not recognizing it they're pretending it doesn't exist so that they can continue with their shill, bro.
It's really bad, man.
Would that be good for Bitcoin, though?
No, not good, bro.
Imagine Bitcoin, imagine Satoshi comes out of nowhere and says,
hey, guys, Bitcoin, I forgot to tell you guys that we're going to be adding another 9 trillion.
Obviously, he can't do this, but we're going to be adding another 9 trillion tokens to the supply.
Like, that's what happens, bro.
The supply, like, 10x's.
Hey, Bucks, do you know there's 20 million tons of gold in the water, the ocean water?
tons of gold in the water,
the ocean water.
Oh, bro, maybe more.
Oh, bro, maybe more.
That's enough gold to give everyone
pounds of gold per
citizen on the planet,
per person on the planet.
That's how much gold there is just in the ocean
water. In the water,
not on the ground.
Can silver be lab-made or no?
Yes.
But harder than gold, right?
It's harder to make silver than it would be gold, correct? I think they can make it all now.
Oh, that's really bad, bro.
Yeah, they can make any.
Yeah, if that's why they're pumping this shit, guys,
it's going to be bloody outside, guys.
And what do you think is going to happen?
And then I got to go.
And then I got to go. But the reason that Tesla, SolarCity, the the the Neuralink, the boring company, all of Elon Musk's companies exist, SpaceX, to send robots to Mars to build a livable environment. That environment will be underground. So they are going to bore underground on Mars with robots. So that's what's going to happen. It may not be in your lifetime.
I hope it is. They're going to bore underground using AI, robots, and the battery tech, solar,
everything. It's all going to happen on Mars. And that's how they're going to build another place
for humans to go. What do you think they're going to find when they start to drill in Mars books?
You think it's just full of sand?
They're going to find something.
They're going to find everything.
There's vast amounts of helium on the dark side of the moon,
priceless amounts of rare metals and rare elements and everything.
All of this shit, your shiny rocks, your plutonium, all the things that
we find scarce, necessary, and evil, they're going to find them with abundance throughout
the universe, and it will start on Mars and the moon. Anyway, Alex, you're gay. Can't wait to see
you. I'm looking forward to mall walking with your books.
I'm going to get that Nova Tech set up.
It's going to happen.
I'm already working on it.
It looks dope, right?
I think it's dope, bro.
I like it.
Yeah, man.
All right.
Have fun, guys.
Talk to you soon.
But they won't be able to find Wood, right?
Everyone retweet the pin post.
Yeah, he's in it, Alex.
He's in it too?
Dude, I'm telling you, Aster is paying attention.
Did you tell him?
Did you give him?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I thought they figured it out on their own.
They asked for names?
Yeah, they asked for names.
Dog, that's great. picked up ruslan man i really like that i don't know why books and i
don't like liking guys too for what this word not like the homo thing it's just i let my guard down
and then i just it is what it is
all right but it's hard to not like ruslan How can you not like Ruslan
He's such a likable guy
Yo what was that video of him about
Calling the guy who scammed him
He pulled up on him bro
What was that video
I didn't get the whole content
That guy scams him and his friends
And he pulled up on him
Yeah he got him for like 20k or something
And then he has a video of him
But did anything happen from him
There's gonna be a lawsuit now Okay Yeah, he got him for like 20k or something. Then he has a video of him. But did anything happen from him?
There's going to be a lawsuit now.
Okay.
Which is good.
How did he get scammed?
Like one of those like investing things.
Where's Russo now?
You been talking to him at all?
Yeah, yeah, every day.
I haven't seen him.
Everyone's waiting for you to get back.
Go coffee shopping around.
The coffee shop, bro.
They're like, where's the loud guy?
We miss him.
Tell him to come back.
I was quiet.
You're the loud one. We've got some iced Americano ready for him.
Yeah.
I said, oh, he didn't retweet the Clarity Act post, so he's not coming back until he retweets it. What is this?
What is this? I retweeted five retweets today.
My timeline...
Six a day to keep the doctor away.
You're lucky I ain't got got cozy's phone in my hand
no i'm in the mindset we're gonna be using a new app with it before the end of this year
this app done books i just don't understand how he translates because you said it started with
bit what was it called bit talk bitcoin talk something like that bitcoin talk then went from
reddit then to um what's it called um clubhouse then the twitter
and i think we're gonna go i don't know where we're gonna go to discord then the twitter
telegram telegram was always in the picture yeah yeah i don't know why we transitioned to all these
different communication now i can just think that they all just got corrupt over time it's all yes
all that gatekeeping shit out. It's all a group
of people that everyone wants to be like
and then a few people get that
chance and they try to fuck them.
It's always the same
shit over and over, bro.
The same playbook. People thinking that
they're smarter than the next person.
Main character syndrome.
Same thing with us, bro. We find someone,
we add them as a co-host.
Next thing you know, bro,
they can't help themselves.
Main character syndrome.
Fuck Brooks and Alex.
Some jackass DMs them on the DMs and says,
oh, you're so much better than Brooks and Alex.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Gets in their head.
You understand?
Wait, did something happen?
No, no, no.
Oh, okay.
I thought something happened.
Same thing every time.
You know, we're talking about like Bitcoin books,
but like you can't trade Bitcoin.
That's what we're all here to do.
You can't, you can't,
it just can't be traded.
I wanted to ask him about that.
Like, what do you suggest to people that don't just buy can't be traded i wanted to ask him about that like what do you
suggest people that don't just buy and hold bitcoin that are looking to trade like i come
on here looking for alpha to take a little bit it's far and few and in between when it comes to
that you know it might be months you might be fishing out here for for something to to bite into
but i mean just sitting on bitcoin then why am i even on this app i'll just delete the app buy
bitcoin delete the app it's kind of what they but i'm like what are you guys doing on the app
i think it depends on your risk tolerance and how long you keep your liquidity locked up for
and how much you have everybody don't have that type of liquidity either like
dump it into bitcoin and just sit and wait when there's opportunities right in front of your face all day on this app.
I think that's what it comes down to.
Now, when you win, you can rotate into Bitcoin, but I just think it comes down to how you like to trade and play the game.
Yeah, that's all.
That's just kind of my counter argument to them to hold just bitcoin
i'm like okay that that sounds great like yeah i wish i bought it at ten dollars and i held it to
you know a hundred thousand dollars but that's not possible in the big two six matter of fact
probably going from 98k or sorry 90k to to um you know 300k isn't even possible so talking about a
3x and holding it for 365 days but But that's not what crypto is for.
Well, it's not used to be.
It used to be for like crazy gains.
They think if the Clarity Act gets approved, it's going to 2 million overnight.
Like, bro, the amount of stupidity on this app is just beyond me.
Like mathematically, they don't get it like they look at the gdp of
the whole world and they think onboarding means all that gdp goes to bitcoin guys like you
understand real estate like literally everything is included in gdp. Do you guys understand? Do you know how much money would need to go into Bitcoin and not come out for it to go to $800K, let alone $2 million?
People are just so stupid.
But without stupid people, Bitcoin would have never been a thing, Alex.
you need stupid people
You need stupid people to get something like Bitcoin to work.
to get something like Bitcoin to work
I mean I think the most bullish news I've ever seen
for Bitcoin was like when we had countries
like using their own
their own government funding
whatever the fuck it was
to just swap out their own fucking currency
like I want to hold Bitcoin rather than my own goddamn country currency
you ain't getting more bullish news
like El Salvador
to me it was bullish but to me it was just like the shittiest countries rather than my own goddamn country currency. You ain't getting more bullish news like El Salvador.
It was bullish, Alex.
To me, it was bullish.
But to me, it was just like the shittiest countries.
Like you got countries where the majority of the population doesn't have money for a bottle of water
telling me they're adopting Bitcoin.
Like I'm just, I'm not going to fall for it.
Now, if it was like the UK, the United Kingdom was adopting Bitcoin, you got my attention.
China, Russia, some country with people living in it that are wealthy, that have money, it
would have been good.
But when the whole country is starving and they make an announcement like that, man,
it's just like another fuck you to their own people and another cosign slash fake catalyst for our dumb people.
So I don't know, man.
Like lately, I've just been on some like let's be patient type shit.
Wait for a huge bottom.
Throw a bunch of money on 3x, 4x, 5x leverage and hold.
Grow a bunch of money on 3x, 4x, 5x leverage and hold.
I'm not as optimistic as I once was.
I feel like the gains are just getting smaller and smaller and smaller on the macro and the micro.
on the macro and the micro.
Even meme coins.
Those days where you could throw $1,000 in
and pull $14 million out,
man, forget about it.
Yeah.
I mean,
I think we'll have like,
you know, they were saying not four years. I definitely think we'll have like, you know, they were saying now four-year.
I definitely think we go in like four-year cycles of on-chain trading.
Like an on-chain trading frenzy will happen within four years.
And every year, every fourth year, the length of that on-chain frenzy we have gets shorter and shorter and shorter and shorter.
And like the meme coin one was so short.
But we had people finally here and it lasted like, swear it felt like it lasted like three months before we just
completely it all up and nfts i think they were there for like a year altcoins probably like two
years next next one we have i i think it'll be like a month we'll have on-chain activity and then
people will get people like people are going to get rugged so hard.
You know, they're so good at rugged now. Like look at how well they rugged with Libra. You know,
they had the Argentina president showing you a meme coin and then you extract a hundred millions
of dollars. You know, then they got to go to, you know, the biggest live streamer with Aiden Ross.
You know, they rugged another coin, MLG, for hundreds of millions of dollars. And then there
goes every, all the on-chain liquidity is gone just like that. And then we're back to where we were. And then,
man, the Coinbase crash on October 10th, the largest liquidation, $19 billion liquidated
in 30 minutes caused by Coinbase. You guys remember when they transferred the Bitcoin
to Binance and dumped the market and liquidated all the, then we lost all the people that were
perpetrated. So not only did we lose all the meme coin traders because of um you
know uh the rugs they were doing but then we got rugged by the biggest centralized exchange coin
base and i just um i don't know man we just can't help ourselves i realize we lost meme coins because
because of all the rugs and we lost meme coins because we over saturated with pump fun
of all the rugs and we lost meme coins because we over saturated with pump fun
i mean what i think pump fun did the mean forms what blurt did the nft
yep just that's what i've done super good like greed upon greed okay but i don't understand like
the way we talk about it right because last cycle was no different we had eight or nine months of bnb shit coins
right then we rotated to eth and you know i mean like then it was all the big projects and then it
was nfts and it was back to coins for a spell then it was back to nfts and then it was like ponzi
fucking coin nft combos and then it was over so like i mean isn't it gonna go like this every that's why we have metas and
need to be good at all the things i think the solana meme coin fucking cycle of two years is
insane right like that's i think that's part of the problem because you have a whole generation
of new crypto heads that think that's all that it is instead of what it used to be is you needed to pivot all the time.
But I just don't understand why we talk about it.
Like, it's so bad.
It's like, isn't it the same time every time?
You know, like slightly different.
Like, aren't we going to go through these same metas anytime there's a lot of fucking excitement in the market?
What's the biggest pump on live stream? Yeah i don't think we're gonna see we'd see
what's the biggest pump on live stream yeah but i've been saying since the beginning ccm was
bullshit alex i mean it's just fucking you know social fire wrapped up in different bullshit
you know i'm saying like oh we just we really called something else It's just social fire. We've been doing that since big cloud
Yeah, front tech didn't someone just buy front tech or something like that or when tech was a copy of it's not new
Right none of it's new. I think it yeah, yeah somebody just bought one of them bullshit platforms
Forecaster, i believe actually
no was you gonna stay angie but somebody hey guys but somebody is anybody talking
michael's been trying to talk for a minute sorry Sorry, no, but I was going to pivot the conversation back to privacy.
And we're talking about.
An arrow and people that are using mixers and stuff and losing access to their their Bitcoin.
What do you guys think about the up and coming mixers that allow you to do that for Bitcoin.
But the caveat is if you move it to a centralized exchange,
it's likely that you'll have access to it.
Like, is that even,
and they seem like it's a bad idea in general.
So that does seem like it points towards, you know,
more use of Monero over Bitcoin
if people want actual privacy.
Because a lot of people think Bitcoin's private, which is fucking stupid.
But I think as more people learn that it's not,
then what we see more people moving towards Monero as a result,
instead of actually trying to mix their Bitcoin and losing access to it.
to it
why did um why did gary say the the i might as well move to a different country
no michael isn't it crazy when like you say a thing and no one responds to it
i just did that and then you just did that and everyone was like fuck us
no it's probably the is a conversation we don't have. Yeah, I think these are breaking up.
I think you were breaking up.
I think you guys are breaking up.
Yeah, so one, the country thing is talking about,
you know, Gary mentioned Roger Ver,
which I wonder how many people even know what that is
and what happened with him.
But basically, he decided not to pay taxes
on X amount of Bitcoin
when he gave up his US citizenship.
And the IRS, there was no limit
in how long that is. Technically, when you do that stuff, they can always go back and snatch
your ass and they have their own criminal division. And they picked him up, I think in Spain,
for doing that. And he owed the IRS like 30 something million dollars.
So, and that's when they were talking about, you know, giving up your citizenship, but then how,
you know, Jason mentioned that if you
do that shit you got to mention every single dollar you have in crypto because if you don't
they find out there's no time limit on them coming after you and you better be dead essentially um
but going back to uh that's bitcoin but going back but if it's monero
then they're not going to know you know that goes back to the
privacy piece yeah i wonder why he would say that though because he was talking about like
specifically monero so that's why i was kind of confused i'm like huh well i mean if you're yeah
right if you if you're dealing with bitcoin as the u.s citizen you want to leave then you have
to tell the u.s government all the bitcoin you have, because if you ever do anything that connects a dot, and they look back and find it, there's no time limit for that agency
to come after you.
You know, it's small stuff.
It's like, you know, usually three years to six years.
But if it's a large amount that they justify is worth their time, then it's indefinite.
And so and also that goes back to Monero because if that is the case with Bitcoin,
then more people as they learn
that it's pseudo anonymous, not anonymous,
they're gonna be switching to more privacy chains
instead to utilize.
And people are like, well, I could just mix my Bitcoin.
And I was like, well, that like circling back,
that'd get people, that'd get your Bitcoin stuck on centralized exchanges if you do play that game.
It just makes it almost useless.
So privacy is an interesting conversation because people try mixing it to think they can cut the tie, but then they can't.
It's fucking worthless to sell it unless you give it to somebody else that doesn't know you've done that.
But then it's just going ultimate arrow, you know, to use it unless you give it to somebody else that doesn't know you've done that um but then it's just going all to monero you know the user there so well you know it's been an interesting
few months like with the privacy stuff of like you know the manipulated push-up of zcash and
now things running with like a bunch of other privacy coins monero i saw a fucking uh dash
just fucking this skyrocketed recently to like 90 bucks it was sitting at like um i think five
six dollars.
You know, it's a lot of privacy coins.
Old ones are starting to move.
And I wonder if that's the case.
People just learning that you can't really mix your Bitcoin.
I mean, you could, but it's just bad news bears if you put it on a centralized exchange and try to move it around because it could just end up stuck there indefinitely.
It could be seized from you, essentially.
To me, it sounds like a United States problem.
It sounds like you guys
got too much legislation
and you got your guys,
Baldy,
at Crime Base,
legislating for you guys
and fighting for you guys.
It's a United States
problem, guys.
It's a United States problem.
What's that?
I said,
didn't you serve
in the military?
Yeah.
I don't agree with the lawmakers.
That's why I moved countries.
I'm like, I don't agree with the lawmakers in the United States.
There's a reason why the United States was so far ahead in crypto
and is lagging behind the rest of the world now.
Trump's actually kind of saving crypto with the help of CZ.
Those two are coming together here,
trying to make something happen for the United States.
But before him, I mean, we had Biden in there.
He wasn't helping you guys in crypto at all.
And that's when I feel like...
Is this unit Radium put out a terms of service update
that they no longer allow jurisdictions
to include the United States.
And it's such an annoying fucking thing.
Going back to the US, Binance not being allowed in the United States.
That's a pain in the ass.
And so many things are not allowed in the US to do.
It really makes you want to move.
I mean, it's Coinbase.
I mean, it's Coinbase.
They're out lobbying.
Yeah, I was just about to say that.
Yeah, I mean, Coinbase is trying to put them out legally, not by being the best on market,
best exchange we have, but by simply lobbying.
And you're left with a, you know, Coinbase, Crimebase.
I mean, they should rebrand a Crimebase.
I've had my whole identity has been doxxed.
My accounts have been hacked.
My accounts have been drained.
My accounts, I've traded on there where the token has been frozen because they didn't
have enough on hand.
And when they re-brought it back to market, I was down 50%.
So I've had nothing but all this criminal activity from CrimeBase, and yet they're never
held accountable.
It's always the customer's fault.
You know, when my account got hacked, it was because I wasn't using the correct 2FA.
You know, apparently, you know, because I was using my phone number when,
by the way, their database was leaked. So if you were using Coinbase in the year of 2021 or 2023,
every single customer, your whole identity was doxed by these guys, great guys. But then later,
that list gets out into the black market and it has obviously your phone number. So they just start
stealing everyone's accounts. And Coin you know, Coinbase doesn't take
any type of accountability for any of this, by the way.
It's all in the customer.
You know, the reason why the customer data is because
the customer leaked all their fucking information.
They're the reason how they tied the phone numbers
to the emails.
They don't take any accountability.
Did they take accountability when Bitcoin Cash
listed on their exchange?
They didn't have enough Bitcoin Cash tokens.
What will happen then, Alex?
I'm glad you asked. You guys go look this up on bitcoin cat like when everything was icoing right
all these little alt coins bitcoin cash was like one of the biggest ones of ico and it was finally
going on to coinbase so everyone was geared up for it you know everyone was ready to click the
button that was like nft minting icoing like whenever something was listed on a big central
you're saying everyone had their monitors open on the exchange. So I'm on Coinbase, blah, blah, blah.
Bitcoin cat, bro.
I buy so much fucking Bitcoin cash at that point in time.
And then they freeze.
They freeze the listing like, hey, sorry,
something happened with this listing per usual crime based doing crime.
They didn't have.
So I ended up buying like Bitcoin cash at like 10x the fucking valuation,
but I couldn't sell.
They can only let you buy.
Similar like Robinhood behavior,
you can only buy the asset can't sell it or vice versa whenever you have one of these big trading
frenzies where they're just liquidating all their fucking users like, yeah, you're all about to get
fucked. And nothing happened there once again. So I've had nothing but a criminal activity happen
on crime base. I don't know what you guys had. So recently they had an ICO $500 million raise
called Monat. I don't know if you guys saw this this it's already under pre-sell price uh there's about one percent of the fucking
raise five million dollars in liquidity in that lp that they took out 500 million i don't think
they've added anything to crypto like i don't know why you guys are rallying behind this i i think
you guys are very new to crypto or is this algorithmically manipulated? Like I said, I don't miss, baby.
The largest market cap token on Monad is that liquid staking thing, which is technically not really a token.
It's only $6 million.
There's nothing on Monad that's over a $10 million market cap.
It's pretty bad.
Yeah, it's a VC extraction.
And it was pushed by a VC chain called Solana.
They changed their whole logo when it was pushed by, you know, a VC chain called Solana. You know, they changed their
whole logo when it was raising to go Monad. And then the founder, you know, I asked about it,
like, Hey, what's all this about? You know, he totally quotes me like five times telling me like,
Hey, this is not, we're not, we're not shilling Monad. I'm like, bro, you rebranded to Monad.
You said, you said all this, you definitely were marketing and pushing for that pre-sale
because where's it at now?
Wait, wait, what?
Okay, so you guys are pushing that so they're all it's all the same investors
Just trying to extract from this application that you guys call Twitter
The X you know, they remunerate it to X the X stands for extraction
