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Recorded: Jan. 11, 2026 Duration: 2:25:22Space Recording
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νμΈμ. Thank you. Music Yeah, what's good?
It's Ari.
Good morning, sir. Good morning, sir. Your name's not a... Yeah, what's up? ari good morning sir your name is not yeah what's up good morning oh yeah
yeah you know um is that you know ruslan i think i heard him once how's it doing man
nice to meet you i already tell him how's it guys how do you feel nice to meet you how's it feel to meet you it feels amazing nice to meet you bratuha
good for me because he can buy himself this company he's got like a 1.3 million
person telegram he's biggest uh influencer in russia it's it they don't they don't use uh twitter
in russia i think i don't i don't know ruslan can correct me they use telegram
same with china they don't use twitter they use wechat no i'm i'm uh i've had it with
crypto twitter as i i don't know about you i'm like man we just have you can't do anything
though where are we gonna go to talk about crypto like there's no other is it in there though
yeah what's up man yeah i was over it uh until i started talking to you guys i told you that
i mean i've been over it i was over it years ago two years ago
but it's really bad now i mean it's it's like, I've never seen such bullish marketing conditions,
but such doubt about people.
You know?
Like, I feel like that's the sentiment.
I mean, basically,
like,
if everybody in crypto Twitter was winning,
then we'd be having wag me vibes.
You know?
So I don't know what it takes.
I think it takes
the market doing such ridiculous things that money's flowing everywhere and everyone's getting paid for marketing deals.
And that's when you have wag me vibes because they're not winning trading.
Right?
I mean, that's really what it has.
I think the marketing stuff fucked up crypto Twitter.
People getting paid to show fucked up.
Fucked up.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
But I'm saying if it were to ever come back that's
what would have to happen it'd have to be so much money in the market i mean you used to have like
you know you could get a fucking discord dm bot like some regular degular black hat shit would
fucking make you two million bucks i mean it's just like you know let alone some fucker tweeting
i mean just any old regular scrapey telegram mass DM thing was making people money.
I mean, you know, none of that shit's working right now.
So I think it's just a money issue.
There's just not enough money for every person who made Web3 their career eat, you know, in the various ways that they are used to.
So you think it's like people are complaining because there's not enough money on the market
no if we have money yeah that's not true there's money in the market but if you can't be adaptable
and you can't do multi-chain trading and you're not you know if the way that you make money
is for marketing deals or marketing services and that's it and you were never somebody who
actually understood the fundamentals and you were never somebody who actually understood the
fundamentals and you turned into a degenerate gambler with your dollars that you did get and
it didn't work out for you i mean it would explain the sentiment i don't know i'm just putting my
finger in my mouth and sticking it in the air and see which way the wind blows but if i had to guess
and think about it for two minutes i mean that's what i think. Man, I think they got to rework this algorithm to not show favoritism towards Solana.
It's getting, you know, it's funny.
It's finally like the Doge community speaking about it.
Because a lot of the Doge affiliates, you know, like Elon Musk is the founder of Doge, essentially.
Right.
And so Doge did dominate the algorithm.
But now they're starting to see...
I just saw like Solana.
I don't know.
Probably just lying because that's what Solana does.
They said they had some type of partnership with Twitter.
Did you see this?
No, no, no.
What are they talking about?
It's so hard to tell what's true or not.
But they posted from...
Yeah, they posted from the Solana account, not from the X account.
But the guy from Doge, Sir Doge of the coin, he said, we're so fucking fucked.
And it showed, he quote tweeted, Solana Foundation X handshakes Solana, breaking X to launch smart cash tags,
allowing users to post Solana tokens and view charts and news.
I don't know if that was just them.
I know they came out with this new way to track tickers,
but no one gives a fuck about that.
But they are like hinting
that they got some type of deal with X,
which makes sense.
We've been saying that for months now
that we got a big conflict of interest,
a big problem on crypto
twitter when you got the head of product as the advisor of solana people can't even talk about
this though azadi they're so scared to even talk about a group chats now it's got that bad they're
like oh god if i say nikita bear uh anything he'll suspend me from this application and that's
probably true he's been caught before uh just wrongfully suspending people in this application
and elon called him out on it but he kept him in his position so i don't understand the relationship
between elon and nikita but do you do you think azadi that there's favoritism towards solana
i mean i don't know i mean there's definitely cabal of money movements which is i think we're
seeing the beginning of cc doing something about it so it's like fascinating to watch but i mean listen you know there's a lot of blockchains
and yes you're right like the predominant like side of crypto twitter that we're on
or what's getting shoved in my timeline is always solana stuff does that have to do with two years
of just a lot of meme coins or does that have to do with cabal moves like i don't know
i don't know right uh but i do know that the blockchain the crypto and the bull run is not
solana meme coins i mean that that is for sure and so i think it's just so so long of doing it
i mean because last time we had a meme coin run it was bnb and it was like eight months and that
was like a pretty long time and so like the fact that it's like two fucking years.
I mean, I was trading shitters on AVAX when Solana started popping off.
And I'm like, huh?
Solana?
You know?
And it's just been a long time.
And then we haven't had a clear meta to shift to.
It feels like we have no meta.
So everyone's grasping at straws still trying to, like, make a certain meta.
Well, I'm like, okay, can we move on to the other parts?
Can we get a GameFi run?
Can we get a DeFi run?
Can we get a, you know, can we go through all the seasons of all the things?
And then we can come back.
We can come back to Solana.
I'm okay with that.
But, like, can we do all the things?
Not just one thing is my, like, feeling.
But to answer your question, dude, it's just so long that you have to ask yourself what's up.
I mean, I think people are super interested in it.
And also, I don't know, is it intentional or is it because people see liquidity, people get used to a certain method,
so then they just start building that direction because of motion and momentum.
And that's usually why people get left behind, because they build for a certain meta,
and the meta changes.
But right now, I just feel like we don't have any meta.
You know?
I don't know.
Do you think there's a meta right now?
There's nowhere that you look where there's...
I just follow your volume,
and all the volumes on perpetual dexes.
That's the meta for me.
But you got a perpetual trade, and they've got on perpetual dexes that's the meta for me but you got a perpetual
trade and they've got the perpetual market so fucked up with like the price action
no one no one uh is is calling the tops and bottoms on these fucking these pumps and dumps
like i mean they're pumping and dumping bitcoin every day two to three thousand dollars in both
directions no one is calling that like nobody is doing that so all that's happening
in my opinion is like we're just losing more and more people as this continues on this market
manipulation goes on and they got the social so not only got market manipulation going on they
have the social manipulation going on on crypto twitter through algorithmic um changes that that
no one can tell me otherwise guys can i add in on that that's a fact because
can we go back to the 2016 presidential election when it was hillary versus trump
i remember vividly back when jack dorsey owned twitter that whatever ecosystem you're in they
would only feed you certain news so x has gotten smarter over the years and i think like solana's
cool don't get me wrong.
But yeah, that's all I see on my timeline. And I don't even invest in Solana. And you see FUD
against all these other projects and all against these other ecosystems. I'm very interested to
see next week with the World Economic Forum on the 19th to the 23rd and then the markups to see
what happens. But I think a lot of people are insiders for Solana because I remember
back in 2021, it wasn't Solana like $2. So a lot of those insiders, they've been for years.
And I think they're just trying to hunt liquidity and get all the newbies out of here and wreck
people as much as they can until it's illegal to do that. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with
that. What was your saying? There's nothing wrong with with that what you're saying there's nothing wrong with
that the problem is we built this application uh organically right and then it and then it shifted
and you guys didn't pick up on the shift where it went from being like an organic algorithm like hey
if something pumps it'll make it onto your timeline to now it's like hey if something we're here to
extract with like monad it's going to be all over your timeline. And if it's an opposition,
you'll actually see FUD posts on the said oppositions.
Like Binance on this application gets FUDded to death,
where Coinbase gets praised to death.
And you just know that that's done
through algorithm manipulation.
Like there's no reason why anyone would be bullish
on Coinbase and the big two six.
Like there's actually zero reason.
But they put out dApps.
This partnership is interesting because
one, you took away our NFT verification,
right?
And then they put out dApps before
that you can use right now where
you can buy a coin right on the timeline.
No one fucking uses it.
You know what I mean? That exists. So like you're saying that they're gonna integrate this ability to like view by
Transition easily into a token. Is that what you're saying earlier?
Yeah, that's
That's what they rolled out today. And I don't know that was no one care
Yeah, no
No, nobody does.
Yeah, everyone has their bot that they like using.
Everyone's going to just copy his CA.
I mean, you know, and by the way, no one gets their info from the timeline.
Everyone gets their info in a group chat.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, no one, if it's on the timeline, it's, like, already been bought by the group chat.
Um, I don't know.
I got Aster from the the timeline
well to be fair didn't someone show it to you on stage like super early and just yeah that's true
they got it from the timeline though yeah we had um shogun um who else was it? Solana Sweeper and I forget who else.
Al Fassan. Yep, those three
made it.
They said, hey, look what CZ tweeted.
But that came from time.
But, you know, I feel like Astro didn't even get a
it had
no chance of getting even mind share over
all these other bullshit protocols
that are not organic whatsoever.
It's all just VC dumping on us.
That's all it is.
It used to be, this is what happened.
This used to be an application where we could be early
and the VCs were our exit liquidity.
Now it's completely reversed.
We're VC exit liquidity here.
We're just sitting here giving the VCs our money every single day.
And that money, that money, by the way, doesn't get recycled into the ecosystem where, you know, if retail makes money on retail and they're here every day, it's getting recycled back in the ecosystem.
That's the other problem with the venture capitals extracting all the money.
I don't know.
We got to get a new application.
That's so much heavy lifting, though.
It's like, fuck, dude.
I have to scroll followers only. I don't know if it's me because I interact with Litcoin and its affiliates right with Pornhub and all that
But I've I scroll for you now it is fucking dick in the pussy. It is like I've been for four years
I've been on crypto Twitter exclusively and now it's just fucking
Every other fucking scrolls I have to stay on the followers only tab or I see that you and what
That's you and look and porn hub and mine
Yo, Alex, what's up? Yep
How we doing? Yeah, we're here with Roslan prime MAGA
This guy that fights bare-knuckle fight T- T mark We just met like tough guy bro tough guys. He's probably 60 16 to 1 like career insane guy. Yeah
That's badass just tell him that tell him that your headbutt is lethal
You're such a faggot, but yeah
But this guy bro, you talk to me like this again. But yeah. This guy, bro, you
talk to me like this again. I'm bringing this guy.
He's gonna fuck you up.
Hey, I told you you guys needed
a me. I told you that
Raheem guy, you guys needed a me.
I met a guy from ArtsDAO also.
Like leading something like that.
Raheem Matab? that Raheem the top
Not I am but I
Gotta go meet him. Oh, he's not
You guys gotta go meet him and you guys gotta onboard him because he's a big NFT collector
Like he's one of the biggest in Dubai. I don't know what you guys are doing
I don't know what you guys are doing.
Why don't you guys stop
Why don't you guys stop
copying around, walking the mall
and do something productive. I mean, that's all
y'all do. If it wasn't for you guys
those coffee shops would be going out of business.
Brother,
we're not in coffee shop now. We are in
burger shop. Where?
Burger shop.
Brisket. Eating brisket.
Like barbecue shop.
Go do something productive today, cozy.
Yeah, we do. We do. We do. We do.
We go coffee shop and we go restaurant.
Hell yeah.
You guys gotta save crypto.
Listen, you shut the
fuck up, faggot. You guys gotta save
crypto.
Someone's gotta do it
yo cozy bro not all of us spend day hookers like you bro some people gotta work
what do you think of uh crypto twitter at the moment
i think it's bro i think like like They're taking everyone's engagement away. I mean, I think like faggots like you deserve to lose it But like guys like me like making real work for the industry bro
It's tough for us like you know, but like if you go irrelevant
I mean no one's gonna miss you right but for me. It's like bro. So unfair, you know, I
you know i mean it's no different than youtube i think uh alphabet company they limited youtube
Mean, it's no different than YouTube. I think
engagement for content creators in september october and i think it's just something now with
x because honestly it's getting misinformation on purpose because we're literally about to go
through legislation all these economic things are happening right now like for example the dtcc
tokenized deposits b dtcc tokenized deposits
bny melon tokenized deposits the largest bank in the world that's a custodian bank there's too much
news happening so i feel like x is purposely like hiding good relevant hey brother can you do me a
favor just shut the fuck all right that's cool cozy you show your pussy. I'll dox him.
Don't worry.
I'll have him shaking, Daniel.
He ain't shit.
It's all good.
I'm showing.
It's all good.
It's all good.
He ain't shit, Daniel.
It's all good, but I appreciate the space.
But somebody that's attacking people for showing some real stuff, I'll keep going.
But like I said, X is purposely and YouTube is purposely doxing real information that could help the average person.
And that's not that's honestly by design.
Can you give an example?
Let's just say on YouTube, literally, like Google it.
The Alphabet company, they changed revenue for people that talk about crypto.
So they changed the algorithm on YouTube side.
And on X, I have seen people that, like the Quok brothers with Easy App,
a lot of these content creators that used to get like 100,000 per tweet are getting like 1,000.
I have 70 followers, so I'm not important.
But you know what i mean but i've seen like a lot of people that actually give relevant information
or information or education on the space and not just constant moon boy hype like this coin's going
to a thousand dollars tomorrow and those people are getting shadow banned kind of
yeah yeah you do you get shadow banned if you talk about
anything that's not like bc extractions that's what it comes down to
a thousand percent because honestly like i said even with solana the the main ecosystem the main
coin for example solana was what two dollars 2021? And now the whole ecosystem on it mainly is other stuff other than Solana.
So really every coin that drops on there is getting extracted
by the insiders of that ecosystem.
Solana does have a future in the space going forward,
but right now without regulation,
and people are changing green candles instead of
investing long term so they see one coin go up 30 one day and they're like oh snap i've been
losing money on every other coin let's go jump to this bullshit ecosystem instead of actually
just having a long-term perspective on whatever they buy and and have conviction on what they buy, and just ride it out.
Like, Solana... Solana was good until the algorithm changed.
Like, I'm the biggest Solana bull ever.
And then...
Then...
So, then they put Nikita Bear,
the Solana advisor,
it had a product,
and shit's been downhill since.
And I think Elon knows about this, and I don't know why he doesn't do anything about it.
Like, there's no way he doesn't see this shit, because he's a big crypto guy.
He's not stupid.
No, he's not, because he was the main one in 2021, the last major bull run.
That was the poster boy for Doge and, like, all the Shiba Inu's,
letting Shiba Inu, you could buy a Tesla with Shib things like
that and now he's just letting bullshit on his platform honestly he's a paid agent too because
Elon he created he's one of the PayPal bros originally so there he's been in crypto for so
long that's not even funny and he knows what he's doing he's the one of the richest man on earth so
he's not an idiot he's just purposely letting Fud on his platform to shake out a lot of dumb people who don't have conviction or follow the
fundamentals what i don't get is why he allows solana unfair favoritism like that's what just
drives me crazy yo daniel daniel hold up hold up daniel can you just do me another favor wait why
are you talking wait do you know dan? Why are you talking shit to him?
He's incitent.
He got good at... What did he do to you?
Do you know him?
Nah, I definitely don't know Cozy.
Nah, not at all.
And I think he's a paid flutster, honestly.
Somebody that has a platform like that and talks that much bullshit,
obviously he's misleading their followers.
So, it's all good.
No, no, no. Cozy, hang cozy hang on cozy is one of the best traders that i've ever witnessed i that's
how he built his account he didn't build his account off bullshit like there's a lot of
crypto accounts that i'll agree to you they built their accounts straight off bullshit cozy built it
off of that's my guy alex that's what's up i mean just being honest with you like i like i
can tell you like just i love you bro i love you no i'm not it's not flowers i'm just telling you
what it is like a lot of people built their accounts off of like gms or like funny tweets or
or cozy built his account off pumping bags you know that's the hardest thing to do let's go my
brother that's back so no it is yeah and i'm kind of i'm kind of washed though i'm kind of He built his account off pumping bags. That's the hardest thing to do. Let's go, my brother. That's facts.
No, it is. It is.
I'm kind of washed, though.
I'm kind of washed.
But I used to be great, yeah, at some point.
Well, if you put something on the timeline, it'll instantly bond out.
There's other accounts on this fucking application that'll be bigger than yours.
And if they put into...
They won't even get past 10K market count.
And it's because the way they build...
There's a lot of faggots these days, Alex.
There's a lot of faggots. It's how they built their lot of faggots that's how they it's how they built their accounts a lot of these
kols didn't build their accounts off of shilling financial alpha pumping bags they built it off of
like funny tweets fighting others gms like nothing wrong with that no i i look i love when the market
goes down so that these all these faggots can just go broke and go away
You know, I love it, bro
There's more money being made now in this down market than when everybody's chasing green candles
So that's one thing I will agree with cozy, but honestly if he can tell me one thing I've said
Factually wrong other than saying people are faggots. That's cool. Like I said, he came to show his face pussy
Other than saying people are faggots.
That's cool.
Like I said, he can't even show his face.
Pussy.
Yo, I love you, General.
I love you, brother.
You're my legend.
I don't even understand this beef.
I feel like I'm getting Psy off right now.
I'm a little confused myself.
I'm scared.
Yeah, I'm pretty too.
Cozy uses faggot as a term of endearment.
Came in hot, bullshitting with Alex.
You started talking. He started razzing you as a term of endearment came in hot bullshitting with Alex you started talking
He started rousing you as a little bit of love and it turned into like you being a man that's standing on business
And there's probably disconnect between him not giving a fuck and you having respect for yourself
And I think it's not that complicated
It's mainly because the whole thing was about solana and the whole ecosystem and it just kind
of took a turn but it's cool it's good it's a good space yeah i don't think he meant what he
was saying but like it's cool it's also just cultural like shit talk his accent yeah yeah
pretty yet nazbarovia i understand yeah i mean i get extremely offended when he does that like
it's obviously you know we're a space, so like when people say things
like that, it really offends myself, the Dottie, Alex. You know, that word is off limits.
It doesn't offend me, but I'm just saying it seems like it's very uneducated. He can't find
another word. No, no, it offends me. It offends us. I know, but I'm saying it offends you,
but it also says like it's a lack of intelligence. He can't just find something else.
He gives me a corner chat, but I'm not gonna lie.
Yo, Daniel, I apologize, bro. I do, man. I'm sorry. Can you just do me another favor?
What's the word we're talking about?
He said the trap, boys and girls. let's see if he walks into it.
I was coming up and I didn't even hear the word.
Hey Cozy, do you have a brother?
Thank you Daniel, that was it just mute
yo what's going on what's going on books
i'm chilling now what are you up to i'm just like my whole timeline is just for me
and you guys can tell me what's on your timeline it's just day two of shitting on nikita bear
on my timeline but now it's it's not just like nobody's shitting on him. It's somebodies are shitting
on him. You got a lot of the Doge community shitting on him. And it just is weird to me
because Elon Musk is Doge. That's his coin. He's never claimed he's the founder. Obviously,
you have Billy M2K as the founder,
but he's the one who onboarded the masses to that fucking coin.
And to think that you've got that community going at Solana now
because there's these hints that Solana is kind of tied to Twitter,
which I don't think it is,
but Solana Foundation itself is saying they are,
which Solana Foundation, if you guys aren't aware of,
are caught up in a racketeering case right now.
So I don't know how good that is for Twitter
to be tied with criminals, allegedly criminals.
I don't know how great that is,
but it does seem to be some type of correlation
between the two.
What do you think though?
Do you think Nikita Bear,
a lot of people are saying Nikita Bear destroyed crypto Twitter
because I just put out a poll and I said,
is Nikita Bear good for crypto Twitter?
80% of people said bad, destroying crypto.
And then the other option was good, adding good features.
And a lot of people, 80% of you are saying that
he's destroying crypto Twitter.
Do you think that Nikita Bear is destroying crypto Twitter?
Or are people overreacting?
Overreacting?
He destroyed it already.
What did you say, Books?
He destroyed it already.
He destroyed it already?
Yeah, I mean, what we're seeing on the timeline,
we've been saying for how long now.
He destroyed it.
He ruined the app. We've been saying that there's... It's been ruined since elon took over to be real with you but facts like sure it was great for trump to win but now now look
but honestly look at trump tweet this time last year with the what was the instead instead of
bitcoin and eth what do you say there's crypto strategic reserve has soul, ADA, XRP, other coins like that.
And then look who runs X, PayPal, mafia.
Look who David Sachs works for Trump.
Like these guys, like they're flooding people out.
But then their main plan is to accumulate soul.
So I'm just saying.
I don't think it's got anything to do with soul.
I think it's got to do with corruption and things of that nature.
I mean, we shouldn't be forced a crypto, right?
Like Bitcoin was created and made to do the opposite of all this.
And now we're in a situation where, you know, everything is just forced on us.
They force certain influences, certain narratives, and that's all ruining this space.
is and that's all ruining this space can't even find people that will talk about a good product
anymore without needing to be paid for it like this this meta has destroyed this space and money
is not being made like it once was no that's what we're saying oh no it's always saying
before we used to come on this app and we could be early.
We could be early to stuff, right?
We were early to board A's, right?
And then what happened is other side comes out.
That's when the venture capital would get involved.
Now, it's completely fucking ass backwards.
Monad comes out.
The VCs are first.
And then we're buying into the fucking sales afterwards.
We're the ones buying into the private sales.
Like, wait, how did the VCs beat us in?
We're here every fucking day.
That's where we went wrong.
And I think they're using the algorithm to assist with this, like extraction from retail.
When retail built this application and that money that Monad collected, that $500 million
never gets re-inserted back in the ecosystem.
When retail, like I can tell you right now nine times out of ten when someone hits on a
coin like a meme coin or they make a couple bucks those couple bucks go right back into the ecosystem
but when a venture capital comes in oh that that money's good is gone it's never coming back and i
don't know how we get away from that and i don't i don't know i mean i just think i'm down to try
a new application at this point.
Like, I'm so down.
I'm like, what's the, like, the reason I didn't want to do another application
because, you know, the cost of opportunity,
you pay a cost by going and using your time and spending it
and you're building on to, like, somewhere else.
And then all of a sudden that somewhere else doesn't work
where you know crypto Twitter works.
It comes with an opportunity cost.
But, like, what's the second best app for crypto communications is it facebook tiktok i think streaming youtube
streaming on youtube maybe but as far as like connecting with your followers and engaging with
people you're not gonna beat this app no like if you're broke because all of the streamers came
over to here to actually like solidify their
communities and honestly elon used the entire crypto community to build this whole spaces app
like let's be honest the only spaces that are actually worth anything were the crypto spaces
in the very beginning so he really just used this whole community to build up the spaces and then
um and then feed eventually to your top engagement baiters that are just
constantly pushing stuff to
extract liquidity like you're saying Alex.
But what are they using in Dubai
Alex?
Is everyone on...
Coffee shops. We're meeting at coffee shops.
Hey Ruslan has a million persons
in his telegram. You know what I mean?
These Chinese KOLs
I can't say their names, but they got
a million people in their WeChat communication
lines. It's a fucking western
side of the world thing where we're stuck on
crypto Twitter. I think
a lot of people think that crypto Twitter is...
What is it?
Like, it's so hard.
It's all jealousy. On the west, no one will
support anyone. So, like, let's just say you got
a telegram and we stuffed it.
You know, we'd get a couple thousand people, 10,000 people over three months.
And it should be a million, but it won't be because instead of other influencers and
people promoting you and shilling you, we just cause more division, more saturation.
Everyone needs to now open a telegram account.
Everyone is now a pro
trader everyone now is you know better than the other you know people start talking shit about
each other hating on each other it's just fueled by jealousy that's a fact that's a fact because
i've even seen that this week where like uh zach rector and claver suing each other and then you
have like crypto airy coming on and just like oh these people need to be sued too and it's like honestly these people are really just out for themselves they don't
really care for the community in general so it's just everybody trying to be the top dog
like crypto influencer and being right all the damn time so honestly it's a bunch of
you can look at even if we look at pump fun bro like pump fun was really the start of all this
because we just saturated the market with products that no vaporware products that no one needs
too many meme coins out there we can't come together and pump one thing anymore those days
are long gone yeah pump fun last year was crazy i remember that like around like last march there
was coins that were going like a thousand percent in a day that
was ridiculous I didn't get in on them but like that was crazy there's way too many people with
Bitcoin with Bitcoin at 120k 110k 90k 100k sold at almost 300 200 something dollars
we should have outperformed 2021 we didn't even come close to meme coins in 2021 this time around.
Why?
Because the market was oversaturated.
All the money was too spread out.
Everyone was just extracting and we just couldn't come together and make something good happen.
Because what, like 6,000 plus damn coins, a million damn coins.
So honestly, I think after legislation, you'll see 99 of the crypto disappear honestly legislation is
bullshit we put so it is 90 but i'm saying it will make 99 of people disappear but i'm saying
in general it will make all the coins disappear remember when marijuana got legalized everyone
started smoking weed all of a sudden. Before that, people were scared,
scared to talk about it,
scared to mention it.
It was super hidden.
Crypto, in my opinion, is the opposite.
Everyone, when legislation happens,
is going to be scared to trade.
Banks are going to take over,
ETFs, all that nonsense.
CT ain't going to grow.
I think we have one more chance with CT.
I think income tax season this year, stimulus checks,
and then at the end of the year,
we see one big pump and a lot of people come into this space.
I think we hit a bottom between May and this summer.
And we're screwed for a few years, at least, if it's not over.
Yeah. And we're screwed for a few years, at least, if it's not over. Yeah, I mean, I've never seen crypto Twitter this bad.
And it's like Bitcoin is doing pretty good.
But crypto Twitter is in shambles.
I mean, why is it that way?
I thought, you know, when Bitcoin goes up, more people would join the space.
But it seems like every day we lose another... We making the money we're not the ones buying it it's
the banks and the institutions that are buying up all the crypto and then you have to think too
a lot of these institutions they're buying with debt they're not buying it like a retail person
that actually has their own hard cash with it so a lot of this too they're just gonna like like
micro strategy that's bs they're gonna buy it with corporate debt and they lot of this too, they're just going to like, like micro strategy, that's
BS. They're going to buy it with corporate debt and they want to pay it back. They're going to
dump the market. There's constantly playing a game with debt versus a normal retail has real cash
to go and invest. And I hate complaining with no, I hate complaining with no solution. I hate
like, I feel like I'm just complaining with no solution. This hate complaining. I feel like I'm just complaining with no solution.
This is what I don't like.
How are we going to...
And do we even need to fix crypto?
That sounds retarded.
Why are we trying to fix...
We don't need to fix shit.
You know what it is?
For me, it's frustration to see the blatant manipulation
and just watch it go down.
And just like, man, it doesn't have to be this way.
But what are you going to do about it? Start your own fucking app? That's what it comes down and just like man it doesn't have to be this way but what are you gonna do about it
start your own app like that's what that's what it comes down to and that's the that's why we need
that's why we always need decentralization because you get put in this situation that's
i mean look at solana now they're just like they're they're trolling with nikita bear
you know what i mean it's it's retarded like look what solana just quote tweeted they quote tweeted
nikita bear like it's Like, it's that bad.
They've got that much of a fucking chokehold on this application that they can just tell you that they're manipulating and laugh about it in your fucking face.
Like, that's how bad they're doing.
Because remember that tweet that Solana put out?
They had, like, that castle.
They had BTC on the left.
They had Solana as, like, the little joker in the middle.
And they had XRP with the puppet geppetto on the right
literally like two months ago like they're just playing everybody's face yeah it's bad
i'm literally there it's thick like honestly they're just playing people's face at this point
yeah and we allow it because uh no one wants to no one wants to do the heavy lifting and getting
getting a new uh communication line that isn't completely manipulated.
That's what we're dealing with,
a manipulated algorithm.
Who wants to go fix the crypto communication line?
No one went out of their way to build it.
It happened organically.
So who's going to go out?
Honestly, with decentralization,
I'm not a developer, I'm not an engineer,
but is there a way to in the future have a
decentralized blockchain where you can have like a application on top of it, where you
don't have like, BS actors? Like, I don't know, there, there's no freedom of speech
anymore. I don't know. But that'd be cool. I feel like that was one missed opportunity.
And I'm praying that somebody would make it like a decentralized communication platform
like WhatsApp for just anything
it i mean i guarantee this exists but how do you get the people there right like there's a there's
there's crypto communication lines like binance app but how do you get the people there you know
we tried doing spaces on there but it was just too much um too many like um beggars like it was it was out of control like the whole fucking
like when we do like a live stream the whole fucking thing was like hey follow me follow me
like there was no real um users there and i don't know like the only thing that would get people
there were just if they were forced to uh participate over there because that's where
shit was pumping they were forced to look at that because that's where shit was pumping.
They were forced to look at that app.
You got to just send a bunch of shit
and just got to keep on sending it
until you get capitulation.
That's why we come on this application.
I know you guys said
that if you read on the timeline,
you're too late,
but I mean, it's a start.
Like, what if you're not in those group chats?
Where are you going to go?
You got to start somewhere.
You got to start on the timeline.
You know, you got to buy White whale, you know, 50 mil,
and then it runs up to 100 mil, get your 2X.
That was done through the timeline.
But who, like, who's the closest?
No, go ahead.
Sorry.
I'm just, I mean, I just don't know, like,
who's the closest competitor?
I know you guys are going to say,
but it's not like the way crypto Twitter works.
Twitter, we can engage with, like,
live engage with, you know,
a contract address that's posted.
If someone posts, like, a YouTube,
like, hey, look at this contract,
I mean, you're a fucking...
a million days late. The closest, I think, look at this contract. I mean, you're a fucking million days late.
The closest, I think, is Binance app.
That's true.
And honestly, we don't really have too many other apps, really.
Like, crypto.
I mean, X is pretty much the only other one.
I mean, they tried Rumble for two seconds.
That didn't really pan out.
There's other platforms.
But, yeah, the mass buy-in.
I mean, you need somebody with a bunch of money like Elon.
That's really what you need.
Yeah, because people follow him because they worship billionaires.
So yeah, you would need somebody like a monumental like Elon say, go to this app.
of this app unfortunately yeah
Unfortunately, yeah.
krypton rover krypton rover says breaking elon musk x has started going
all-in on crypto today announced x will launch built-in price tracking for
crypto tokens and stocks directly from the timeline this is a massive move as
x has yeah we already read about this
isn't that just like making it like trading view where you can just view stuff or are they going to integrate buying things on there but then again i feel like that's just another i don't know i'm
not trying to be skeptical but isn't that kind of like trading view where you see um prices on the
timeline and like where to buy and sell it or will it be kind of like a super app is x going to a super app where you can buy things on it i can tell you what x is going to do
x is going to onboard zero people onto this application they're just going to just extract
from this application and more people are going to lose unless something i agree i agree as well
nothing has changed in a lot since since Elon got into place. The crypto
has only solidified itself as a bigger
extract.
I mean, you might as well
be trading stocks. I mean, that's why
we're headed. There's no reason
to even trade crypto.
Show me what's pumping in crypto right now.
I mean, my bags are pumping. Clonex,
Motion.
My bags are pumping. Clonex, Motion. I mean, these are pumping. My bags are pumping.
But what else is pumping?
It's a Sahara out there.
Scoot had a good run.
I don't know how his is doing still.
But, you know, outside of these, like, little wins, it's like, where else we went in here in crypto?
I feel like there's a coordinated manipulation of the market to get everybody out and scared.
And I feel like later this year, maybe the middle of the year, it'll pump.
Like you said, it has to.
Because the 250th anniversary of America, you have a lot of the World Cup coming.
You have a lot of distractions.
So I feel like there's a lot of distractions to pump a market where nobody's looking.
Closest platform is TikTok.
Somehow it's too woke over there, in my opinion.
Shilling.
They have a semi-spaces-like format
where speakers can just do audio.
I'll give that a shot.
Has anyone done that before?
No, TikTok's pretty good.
I'm not going to lie.
Because I have a house.
Why did we...
We migrated off of Clubhouse for...
Why do we... It started over there, right? But why did we... We migrated off of Clubhouse for... Why do we...
It started over there, right?
But why did we migrate off of it?
I remember it went from Clubhouse to Discord,
and then it came to X.
There was a time where we communicated in Discord
before we communicated on this fucking app.
Yeah, Discord and Reddit was the whole reason
people found the GMC and the GME
and the GameStop stuff anyway. It was like the Discord and that type of stuff.
It was never on Twitter.
X was the place for announcements.
But like as far as discourse, that happened on Discord.
They had their own little voice chat, everything.
The only thing people used this app for was to make the announcement from like NFT launches down to whatever they they're they were said they were building roadmaps and all that how do we go from how do we go from the blockchains
it's a pr machine like whatever community you're in it's just them trying to promote
like their ecosystem yeah we got away from exclusivity good how do we go how do we how do we go does any was anyone on clubhouse on the
speaker panel anyone participating in clubhouse yeah i was uh why did we switch why did we switch
why did we switch um i think there wasn't i think that's right i mean there was a time
um because right there was a time where send it again out you were doing one of ones.
I remember you could talk to the CEO of T-Mobile.
That's why I got dragged into it.
Because they're like, hey, they're doing fucking crazy sales on art.
And that whole conversation was taking place on Clubhouse.
And then from there, it's viraled out into well yeah
arts on discord and these communities are being on discord and you would
follow the X and then I remember one night I found a Twitter space and that
was like probably like the fourth place that I was like oh that's what they're
talking up there you know it was like scary oh, that's what they're talking up there, you know, and it was like scary.
I went on stage and I was like, look, there's 800 people in here.
Hmm, you know, like, but it wasn't like the first thing that I did.
It definitely was Clubhouse and I was like, oh, this is just like Clubhouse.
And then it just felt like every other platform that steals a thing that's bigger, I guess, was the vibe.
I guess, was the vibe.
It was like, oh, well, you know, Twitter is Clubhouse now.
I remember, like, Zadi, like, there was, like, exclusivity mattered in this space.
And, like, even down to information in Alpha, like, in the Discord, like, that used to be, like...
Did he rock?
Yeah.
Yeah, but...
But, yeah, yeah but yeah I mean I feel like it started it started it
started incentivizing like economically content creators to start getting paid
through engagement on X even on the clubhouse level is just easier like
still clubhouse is difficult to navigate to be honest right like you still had
like kind of is like a weird you know you go and you look at the rooms and you couldn't, like, I guess just X made it easier to share.
Right?
Like, hey, I'm live on the space.
Everyone retweet.
And because of that, you can take the link.
You can retweet it.
And, you know, probably that's where the organic transition happened.
Yeah, the user experience on X is way better than the other apps,
so that's why they got everybody here.
Yeah, but...
Started giving everything away for free.
Yeah, but...
Alpha.
You had to pay for Alpha in these discords.
E-blah.
Bro, whose speaker is that?
It's a good boy.
That's books.
What'd you guys say?
No, that's not me.
That's someone else.
So here is Sir Doge.
You know, he just put the eyebrow-raising emoji.
And that's...
I mean, there's something going on with the Doge community and Solana and Twitter.
Because Sir Doge is not the only one talking about this.
Because Sir Doge is not the only one talking about this.
This is a big issue.
This is a big issue.
I think that we're going to see something from Elon talking about Solana integration with X.
I think it's coming.
You guys want to talk about wallet drains?
Holy shit.
What happened?
Add that to X.
Get ready for everybody's shit to get smacked
facts this is the worst hot wallet app of all time honestly social media platform
would be the worst hot wallet of all time worse than trust wallet
i don't know they just they need to get someone. Actually, I said, actually, this is what I said.
This is the compromise.
They don't,
they can keep him
as the head of,
whatever it is,
head of products.
But they just need,
they need another,
like a Binance arm,
a Doge arm,
an XRP.
They can keep,
you know,
a Solana person there.
But to just have one blockchain there,
I mean, it fucks up the whole
crypto communication line and didn't solana crash like as a blockchain didn't it go down for a few
yeah it goes down all the time so i'm just like i don't own solana but i'm like bullshit you can't
run a billion person app on solana that crashes it went down whenever the it went down on 1010
and then they immediately try to make amazon web Web Services, because they run on AWS.
So, yeah, when AWS went down, yeah.
So, I'm like, I don't know if I run the whole shit on AWS.
When the whole market crashed, Solana crashed with it.
And they tried to, like, quickly make tweets that, look, the network's up.
The network's up.
It wasn't up.
We were trying.
We're live on Spaces.
I don't care about your fake screenshots.
What's up, Scoot?
Oh, no.
I was just
hitting you with some crying emojis
because it's sad. It really is.
Wow.
Sir Doge responds. You know
shit's bad when Sir Doge responds
to shit.
Yeah, bro. This shit's so fucking cooked.
Yo, Sir Doge does not
like me whatsoever. For us to come
together on an idea,
it shouldn't be possible.
That's how fucking bad this is now though.
I don't care though.
I don't like complaining just to complain.
I don't like it.
I know a lot of people do that.
I like to come up with solutions.
I don't know.
I'm going to try a different application for a little bit.
I don't know which application though.
And it just sucks though.
Cause you spend so much fucking time.
We all spend so much time and effort and money, you know, building out Twitter as the communication line for crypto.
And it starts to just get taken away.
It's bullshit.
It really is bullshit.
I think it goes back to the banks, honestly.
Like, they're trying to kill stablecoin yield.
Like, allegedly, I doubt they do it.
But I'm saying they're just putting foot out in the market foot out in the market because they don't want the normal person
to get out of their normal job they don't want you know what i mean so i think honestly right now
the fear and greed is probably the most fearful most people have been to enter the space
and all the moon boy hype's gone because like even if somebody says like solana's going to a thousand
it's that which it will eventually, I don't own Solana.
So I don't have a horse in the race.
But I have other portfolios.
But I feel like right now, they're hitting people so hard
and people have lost so much money over the last,
like since 1010, that's straight up manipulation.
Because we had the Genius Act, the Clarity Act passed,
it pumped up the market,
and then Congress takes a seven-month vacation and they pretend like they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Excuse my French.
But it's like, honestly, I feel like right now, as long as you dollar-cost average and you find projects that are actually viable, you will win in the long run.
Stop chasing green candles and chase fundamentals.
And honestly, we'll see when whoever comes out of top.
Because right now it's really just like the Trump family,
the big guys that are really the only ones eating.
Well, you can invest in world liberty by them.
And that has been.
World liberty is honestly with their phones and all the other stuff.
Honestly, it's not a bad investment. I thought they had a good team too. that has been doing. World Liberty is honestly, with their phones and all the other stuff, honestly,
it's not a bad investment.
I thought they had a good team too.
They made a good presence
at the recent crypto iron movement.
That was like one of the top teams.
I got Aster,
World Liberty 5,
BC Games,
the top teams when I went there.
And I like forming,
but it just,
they're going up
such a fucking uphill battle
against Solana and Pumpfun.
I don't know how they're ever going to win out.
But I did think they were a strong team.
Pumpfun didn't even feel the need to show up.
That's how arrogant these fucking people are.
Pumpfun got their account disabled.
How grimy is that?
Yeah, yeah.
They got their competitor's account disabled.
Never got their account reinstated.
Whenever they flipped their...
Wait, what?
What did they do?
Pumpfun got Formium disabled. the competitor to pump on on Binance
That's it was right. Yeah, they were losing
They were losing tons and tons of market share. So what do they do? They're like, oh, you're just not allowed on this fucking application anymore
And then not only that, you know the pump on coins if they even got to 100 K
They would make it on my timeline.
It would take like a Binance coin to go to like 100 mil before it'd have equivalent algorithm like fucking showing or whatever.
Impression.
So the market cap multiplier, you can't find a coin.
Like, for example, you find something at 100,000 and it goes to 10 million.
That's better than something going from 100 million to 150.
So I understand.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's all uphill.
Unless you're on Solana, just forget about it.
And then you got to think, like, what is Solana?
It's a VC chain.
You know, VCs are just extracting.
Like you were saying earlier, the protocol is built on top of it.
It's a VC chain.
It's a centralized chain.
And I'm guessing they must have gave it.
I like some coins on BNB,b but even bnb most of the things
on bnb are meme coins and other coins on top of it so whenever you see bnb go from like 800 to a
thousand all the meme coins boost with it and then they do a little they rotate obviously through
crypto mixers or some other thing they're doing illegally and take all that money and put it out of the market
and then it slams back down to $800 and then all the meme coins drop 50% but it only drops 10%
on the main chain I've seen that a couple times this year it's kind of funny yo books yo i think we should start live streaming on x again video live with it
i'm ready i'll put the buttermilk ranch on ice
but honestly this space is needed because honestly if crypto influencers actually like
i don't know like actually take a stand and have some integrity in, like, what you're doing, Alex, and, like, pointing out some of the fraud that these dudes are pushing out, maybe, like, it'll put a spotlight on them that, hey, they gotta clean some shit up.
Because this is a blatant price manipulation.
Like, blatant.
It couldn't be more obvious.
Nah, chill.
They're gonna go after Alex O'Connor, like, last time.
No, Alex.
Careful, bro. be more obvious not sure they're gonna go after alex's account like last time no alex careful bro yeah no i'd rather use my spotlight to try to highlight the decent in the space although it's
far and few in between but honestly in crypto i understand so i'll i might do it because i'm just
like honestly my money is in crypto and not content creating so it's like honestly if we make money in
crypto like you know what I mean?
That's what we're here for.
Alex, did you talk about the thing above yet?
What is it?
Click on it and then scroll up.
Look at the list in the picture that Nikita Beer posted.
Oh, yeah.
No, I know.
It's bonk.
It's base.
Like, we've been saying this shit since day one.
Yeah.
I didn't see that till now.
That's crazy.
No, bro.
It's insane. Oh, yeah. And you're saying no i know i bro i that's it's insane oh yeah and you're saying finance yes yeah i know it's insane they've got it we've been
saying coinbase and solana bought the crypto twitter algorithm how much they paid elon musk
like it's been bought out and i think it was by paradigm or pantera like one of those big investors
uh the closest i can say is Jerry Ellison probably
is the guy that did it all. You still write the guy, CZ wrote the guy $500 million check,
and that still wasn't enough. It's like, Jesus Christ, you got to pay like $7 billion. And then
if you pay that, maybe they'll just one-up you there too. Holy shit. Just to get a fair playing field for crypto communications.
It just comes down to how valuable.
Does Brian Armstrong really have an incentive to have clear communication?
Because if the crypto market goes down, he makes...
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
He just extracted $500 million through Monad.
What are we talking about?
But that's why I'm asking the rhetorical question.
Because my thing is, CZ brian armstrong us either way if it goes up where
they're making money if it goes down they're making money they're the exchange the exchange
always makes money it's like the house in poker uh that's not that's not true that's not particular
that we're not sure they're something on coinbase they get a straw percentage on whatever you trade yeah well no coinbase they're getting a big percentage big
percentage big percent yeah so whether it's down i mean well we could go back to we we don't have
to use their services we can go back to otc to one no i don't use them but but they provide a
service finance provides a very fair service for escrowing trades like i don't want to trade my coins to otc like i will pay the
0.01 fee that they're charging to allow for that
i think i think it's a valid coinbase has by far the best on and off ramp from like
no shot dude binance is better but we just don't have it you can't use it bro so coinbase is the
best one for americans right now for americans
we can't use binance so but crypto credit cards are ruining it they gotta hate that
gemini card like what what do you what do you mean by that like you just send the crypto to
the card and you could pay your bills you could buy stuff you could do whatever you want
through and you can get there's like a there's like kind of like a loophole through offshore banking or offshore like crypto exchange but yeah i mean
if this it just depends how much do you value crypto twitter communicate we got stacy
Stacey on the panel.
on the panel stacy what are you looking at here on the market
Stacey, what are you looking at here on the market?
Hey, I think the market's kind of cooked right now.
I think crypto traders kind of cooked right now.
Best thing you can do right now, go out of your way, take some time, network with some people.
I will check out Dubai.
Lots of great people out there in Dubai.
Recently, I gave up on crypto.
I've been there strapping on TikTok last week, which would be great.
There's some memes that have been cooking.
Memes have been cooking a little bit
lately because what's the last thing you bought because because because I haven't bought any okay hard stop
So what does that mean I
Didn't say I didn't say I say mean coins are cooking I said
I said I said what meme coins did you trade lately and then you said no I mean coins have you bought I didn't say I trade meme coins lately I'm not the one claiming
that you're the claim you're the one claiming this stuff because not me so I gotta trade it
for it to be happening no no no you said they're cooking. And I said, which ones are cooking? I said some meme coins have been cooking.
Okay, which one just went to 200 million.
Here goes Whitewell.
Okay.
Whitewell, we get it.
We get it.
Whitewell.
There we go.
There we go.
Hey, guys, we got one coin.
We got one coin, bro.
They're cooking.
Bro, they're cooking.
Nah, but for real, though, there are some coins.
Like, for example, there's one coin.
Cook.
You're here every single day because you miss the one thing that ran.
This guy thinks if he don't know about it, it's not happening.
No, I know about Whitewell.
I know about it.
What do you mean?
There's a coin called BlueZell.
The shit on Coinbase went up 45% two days ago and then dropped back down.
People are making money.
They're washing money through.
Like, he's not totally wrong.
I've seen on my decent wallet.
Tokens are holding too.
Yeah, like, I've seen coins be pumping lately.
Like, 45% a day.
Alex don't know about it, so it's not happening, guys.
No, I'm being serious.
What do you mean?
It's not happening.
We've been talking about White Whale.
Well, Sir Pepe's been talking about it before.
Anyone else on this application has.
Since the middle of December.
Yeah.
There's just, you know, we've got the best traders here on the platform.
We've got everything.
We've got all the market cornered.
We got it.
Every crevice.
The people you listen to missed Aster by two weeks.
I'm like, Jesus Christ, dude.
You missed the number one professional decks in the world by two weeks?
And honestly, I think the only people that are really mad in this space are the traders.
The hodlers that bought their coins in 2021.
If you bought Shalana or XFP in 2021 and you bought a lot of it, you really shouldn't be crying right now.
You're still up significantly.
Well, I don't think those people you're referring to log on to crypto Twitter every single day.
The people that log on to every single day are here to trade every single day.
We don't want to hodl.
We want to trade and make money trading daily.
That's what we're here for daily.
But there's both strategies, trading and hodling.
You can make money.
Well, you wouldn't be here.
You wouldn't be hodling and tweeting daily.
That just doesn't exist.
Yeah, that is.
I hodl.
I don't trade.
I swing trade here and there, but I don't sit there and just follow.
Well, you've got 90 people following follow. Well, you've got 90 people
following you. Well, you've got 90 people. That makes sense.
You're not here every day, Daniel.
When do you... I mean, just because I'm not tweeting
every day doesn't mean I'm not on Twitter every day.
Dummy. That's why I found your spot.
90? You've got 90 tweets.
You...
This has got me at all.
The best traders I know kind of haven't got any
followers. I'll hop in there. I mean to be fair Alex
I know some of the fucking most rich people and some of the best traders that I know they they have Twitter accounts
They use it to observe but they don't tweet they don't you know, they don't really join
Don't give this guy now
90 90 followers and 92 is not comparable. This is not comparable. No, don't you dare
It's not comparable. This is not Daniel's not a real account
It's not been on this application for years. Well, let me see. When was the first time you tweeted? Let's go
Daniel's got
I don't think Daniel's black bro
I don't care what face he thinks man
So I really not trying to expose everything I do with crypto
because I have my real face, not a lizard face.
I mean, I posted my real face two seconds ago, Daniel.
And you can come pull up and you can get it.
You can get it, Daniel.
I know you wouldn't say that to my face.
Yeah, I would.
No, you wouldn't.
No, you would quiver.
Bro, you ain't saying shit would you would you'd quiver
Where where was your first week? Yeah, your first tweet was the 11th the November 2025 actually
No, you're just retweeting sports stuff
I'm looking for your that tells you that I'm on Twitter
That doesn't mean I have to tweet every damn day
That's my point
Yeah, but you're not daily trading
I'm saying people that show up daily, daily trade
Well, they used to, big guys
Right now, it's
Right now, I mean, we're in the driest
We're in the dri there used to be there
Liquidity used to walk through this place. It'd be pulls liquidity your left right every could jump into like a little liquidity pool
And you think this one might grow but now
Zero others tweet the tweet i just tweet and
bro what do you mean i just i can't deal with big guys you guys listen to this guy anyways
the problem was that we're not we're not trading daily no no no everyone used to trade daily we
used to trade daily it used to be possible with you it's not possible anymore it is not possible at the current state of the market it's not possible there you you used to there used to trade daily it used to be possible it's not possible anymore it is not possible at the
current state of the market it's not possible there you used to there used to be so many
different liquidity pools you could jump into and you knew they were going to grow now you jump into
liquidity pool it's not growing like there's just the chance of that fucking liquidity pool growing
is like one percent sounds like you're using the wrong tools, man. Okay. The gaslight just continues on.
Gaslight just continues on.
Just continue.
It's not like you're using the wrong.
It's not like you're using the wrong.
You're trying to use my tool.
Sign up on my referral link right here.
You click on here right here.
And I get...
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, we got Genki.
We got Genki.
What's going on, Genki?
Goddamn, Alex.
I've been on your spaces sometimes now, and you're still calling me Genki, dudey dude it's gonna get you a problem at this point right and how do i say it because
of ganky ganky dude yeah it's the same thing no it's not no it's not janky and ganky not
the same thing janky sounds tougher bro yeah nah you think i don't't know i see why y'all get wrecked because i forgot already
which one is it i'm gonna stiff okay it's cool i'm gonna stifle this conversation real quick
um what are your guys thoughts on prediction stifle stifle stifle prediction mark got no
volume it's just another vc extraction next next next okay but but but tell me why alex i just told you they
got no volume it's a vc extraction what are we talking about oh what are we talking about because
polygons already done three raises before it goes public next next question keep it moving jenky
we're here every single day we don't miss a beat okay no worries wait which prediction wait hey
which prediction market do you like janky are they even crypto
products anymore i mean no right now right now will the us invade cuba before february
that'd be a good market maybe i can't really use too many prediction markets because i'm from
ontario um but what the one that i have i've been've been using FP, like Fortuna protocol. Um, it's been okay.
It's a little bit of a newer prediction market per se, but essentially it's like the new
pump fund for prediction markets.
I mean, if you think of like Shopify, if you think of pump fund when it first started,
you think of like Fortuna.
So I'm kind of just rolling with that right now.
I haven't tested out poly too, too much.
So I can't say much about that or call sheet or anything like that.
Um, but I mean, Alex, I get where you're coming from. There definitely is not a whole lot of volume
there right now, bro. But like, I do think it's a niche market. And I think that if more people
get into it, I think it could keep growing. You know what I mean? Like, maybe it doesn't have
some crazy huge volume spike per se. But I mean, eventually, man, people are going to look for
other ways to gamble, right? I mean, just like just like pump fun, just like bonk, just like fucking the believe launch pad.
Right.
I mean, for like meme coins and all that shit.
End of the day, dude, just because they don't have volume doesn't mean that they provide they don't provide good.
I guess like a good asset to the space or a different way to gamble for the like a bunch of degenerates that are here.
Right.
So that's just my opinion, though.
Like, obviously, some people have their own and shit here right so um i don't know that's just my opinion though like um obviously some people have their own and but um yeah i i don't know i with
prediction markets dude i think it's a cool way to gamble when was the last time i made a prediction
janky was last i made a prediction uh that's we got i hate you on the panel and his it says in
his bio polymarket research didn't mean to cut you off janky but we got polymarket bio, polymarket research. Didn't mean to cut you off, Jenky, but we got polymarket research on the panel.
Yep.
Yeah, greeting guys.
How are you?
Wait a second.
Are you on polymarket team or is that just something you put in your bio?
Can you hear me? In your bio, you on polymarket team or is that just something you put in your bio Can you hear me in your bio it says polymarket research
Already kicked you
You know you can put I realized
You can just put anything your bio I've realized I thought this guy was on polymarket team and he got me because i thought that was the polymarket badge i was like oh it might be someone
for probably you have a good take on but but gang thank you what was the the last time i i don't do
predictions what was last time you i don't even know anyone that does if i'm being honest with no
one comes up here and they're like yo guys check out this prediction it's at 40 yes 36 no everyone
should jump in on this i i don't i don't know i don't
know any space that's even doing that to be honest no that's fair bro i mean dude not a lot of people
do right now like that's the thing i mean it's it's kind of early right i mean poly really only
started popping what not even a year ago i would say like it really really started getting talked
about so um i mean when they when they raised sorry brother Like when they did a big raise.
They had like a big investment.
Yeah, but dude, like, I mean, yeah, that's one thing, right?
But I mean, Polymarket is making it a little bit more mainstream, right?
Like you saw the Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua fight, right?
Like Anthony Joshua had a fat Polymarket fucking chain on, right?
Like, I don't know.
It's slowly getting there, dude.
It's going to be one of those things that I think kind of slow cooks. Some people hate it.
Some people don't like switching to it. That's cool. You know, by all means, fuck it. Some people
like staying in the trenches. Some people like dabbling on big caps, right? And just like buying
fucking Aster and shit like that, like you boys, right? I mean, end of the day, dude, everyone has
their own forte. But I'm just saying, I'm just putting it out there. I think prediction markets do have quite a big growth schedule.
And whether it's, you know, 2026, 2027,
I think a lot more people are going to use it.
And I think more devs are going to be trying to actually build
on that kind of ecosystem.
And they're going to build different things on it.
Just like Solana, just like, I guess, crypto in general right now, man.
Like there's so many builders on this place. And people are going to keep on coming up with cool things to build and all that stuff.
So, I don't know.
Just keep an eye on the, I guess, the niche market as it is right now, bro.
And that's a good point because, like, for example, gambling is a $100 billion plus industry.
And I saw yesterday Gemini predict something for this, like the Chicago Bears and stuff.
It's like once the degenerate sports gamblers can use their USDC or stable coins to then bet on sports, you're going to have hundreds of billions of dollars getting in the market.
So I don't do prediction markets, but it's nascent.
It's I really heard about polymarket in the last like two or three months.
So it's really just starting to be a thing.
But why do you think Vegas exists?
Why do you think Dubai and Macau
and all these gambling hubs exist?
They make trillions of dollars a year
off of people that gamble.
Like sports,
all the reason why people play fantasy football
is a gamble.
So once ESPN integrates
with one of these crypto platforms
or fantasy football,
it's going to be over.
Dude, 100%.
100 fucking percent.
And I think, I mean, prediction markets are a small niche right now, like I said.
But, dude, I mean, think about it, bro.
Before PumpFun, I mean, people were trading off of, you know, decks and shit like that, right?
But then PumpFun came along and, dude, it fucking blew up the ecosystem.
It blew up memes.
I think something's coming along for prediction markets like that as well, right and that's why like you asked me what I use like I don't use
college really or polymarket per se but like I'm using this FP1 and it's it's pretty fucking cool
because like they're building something where you can actually build your own prediction market type
shit on there right like it's it's dope as fuck dude and um I don't know I I'm here for the long
term I'm not a huge degenerate in the space like I'm not constantly going into meme coins and um i don't know i i'm here for the long term i'm not a huge degenerate in the space like
i'm not constantly going into meme coins and um you know throwing fucking you know 500 on a 20k
shitter per se but like um i i look at the grand scheme of things i look at where things can go and
and dude i mean alex sound like a hater right now brother but i want you to do some research
brother i think you make a lot of money in the prediction markets, whether it's now or within the next year, bro.
Yankee, I want to invite you to throw $500 on a shitter.
It is exhilarating.
I know it is.
Well, I mean, I did my research.
Genji, I did my research.
I looked at the volume.
I compared it, prediction market volume to, you know, the perpetual DEXs that I'm investing.
I'm more, I would rather invest in, you know, lighter Aster, Hyperliquid
before I'd ever invest in Polymarket, Calci or opinions.
And that's based on sheer volume.
Like, yo, look at the volume.
Aster does more volume than those top three, top five, top 10 prediction markets combined
daily.
Does more volume.
Go look at it.
I'm not denying that, brother.
Yeah.
And how much mindshare and think like think like how much okay you just said that they
just said polymarket has all this mind share look at it like they had it on the biggest stage well
then how much further can it grow like it's already tapped out like there's no way now how
where was aster and hyper liquid and light they got so much room to grow where the prep the
prediction markets i mean feel like they're tapped out like where are they going to go they they
spent all the so they did huge raise right they spent a ton on marketing and now where are they going to go they spent all the so they did huge raise right they spent a ton on marketing and now where are they going to go they're trying to do a big raise off of retail
you know they raised you know the average person gambles the average person doesn't
what are we talking about what are we talking about prediction markets are
prediction markets gambling so is leverage trade what are we talking about
so it's leverage what are we talking about
the average person is not holy shit this is a gaslighting space like this is just no it is it
is it is it is it's fine i'm here for it look up how much money has gambled every year in sporting
industry once of these leagues partner with one look at how much volume i don't give a shit i want
everyone let's do an exercise let's do an exercise. Let's do an exercise
Nope, no, you can't you can't everyone we're gonna do an exercise
Toy market cap go there go to decentralized exchanges and then look at perpetuals now go find the prediction markets volume You can go on either which I don't recommend defy scam llama or
Dune markets also has the tracks and go look at the volume and just be like, wow,
there's no volume on prediction markets compared to professionals.
You keep going back towards the volume of-
Well, that's where the people are.
100%.
You told me that it's being marketed at the grandest events.
Where's else it going to being marketed at the grandest events
Where's else it gonna be marketed at it's already tapped out fellas. We ain't going nowhere Because made a fair point I believe right there though Alex like dude
What if they start partnering with with big sports team with NFL these motherfuckers all day?
I don't know
I mean, it's uh, what if what if perpetual that's a billion dollar industry what air what if aster what if aster starts throwing
Predictions into their decentralized exchange guys
Decentralized exchange season is decentralized. It's not just leverage trading. You can do more than leverage trade on these Dexas
That's the main thing because that's
That's where the volumes at what do you mean it's trading it's trading yes and no
What are we talking about? If you fight? Yes, someone bet. No, it's the same fucking thing
If I bet if I bet up you bet down it's the same. It's literally it's the same thing. I'm looking at okay
Well after go to $2, you know, yes or no is the same fucking thing along the ass or sorting it like it's the same damn thing
What are we talking about prediction markets laboratory? It's the same
It's the same damn thing. The only gift. I'm sorry
The only difference is the fucking volume is one one hundredth on prediction markets versus centralized. I couldn't put it in a
$10,000 yes where I could put a $10,000 long and you know, I can put it like a fucking
$1,000 yes and before the whole fucking market market, there's no volume guys. There's no liquidity.
I don't tell you, I wish it wasn't this way. The problem is the fractionalization of liquidity on prediction.
I got prediction market. Well, my ass hair grow an inch today.
You know, there's a prediction for fucking everything.
I think that's the cool thing though, Alex, is that there is a, but there's no liquidity, but then there's no liquidity.
There's liquidity. There's no liquidity. You there's no liquidity there's there's liquidity there's no liquidity you're gonna move a chart with ten dollars you're gonna go
you know from 50 yes to 70 yes on one dollar like well where's the
what's the point of investing anyway is it just a gamble or is it
nah but guys for set you guys guys gotta understand it from a business standpoint
what alex trying to explain like if there's no liquidity, like this shit is a failure, bro.
It's just forced on us.
And we keep getting forced, these prediction markets that nobody is using.
And they're playing in a game.
They're playing in a very competitive game.
Yeah, there's one Amazon now, but there were tens of Amazons before.
They're playing in a very competitive game.
Amazon was better.
Amazon offered free shipping.
Amazon offered people $20 credit.
These prediction markets are not offering what the FanDuel, DraftKings,
and bigger sportsbooks and shit.
And we call those prediction markets too.
Just prove my point.
Once those big same gambling hubs turn decentralized crypto,
which they're going to do,
that's going to grow liquidity.
Just because somebody did it first doesn't mean they're going to last 10 years later.
How many projects have they been in the last five years?
They're not going to turn decentralized crypto.
They're a regulated, heavily regulated industry, bro.
That ain't happening.
And I doubt they're going to let most people gamble decentralized.
I'm just being honest.
Bro.
What do you mean?
And even if it is decentralized, they still know how much damn money you made.
Mark my words, there's going to be a huge lawsuit in the next two years for prediction markets operating as casinos.
It's going to be a big-ass problem.
Facts.
And they're going to get shit on.
And our couch already got hit, like, for 500 mil for this.
200 mil.
And that goes back to the point where all, once the gambling,
partner with one of these damn things to make it mainstream.
Like, NFL, these motherfuckers gamble all day.
Boxing.
How many people bet on all six calls?
Hey, has anyone on the fucking panel made a prediction?
Has anyone even made a prediction for love of Christ?
Or in the listener section?
I have. You have. I've used or in the listener section. I have you have
People are gambling on casinos and so one person one person in this space has made one prediction
It's his cook. No, you haven't let us talk yet. You've been screaming
Yeah, I think
Daniel
Start their own space
No, one's here to listen to you.
I know that, but I'm saying other people were talking besides me.
All right, Daniel, what prediction have you made, Daniel?
Time to crash out.
Alex, Alex.
We're going to crash out.
Count them.
Someone said, someone just made like a reference to the lawsuit happening in the next little bit towards like prediction markets, right?
Like, I mean, Pump, pump on got a lawsuit,
right?
I mean,
they're still pumping.
They're still going crazy.
They're not doing shit.
They're not tweets once every four months now.
What do you mean?
That,
that train has came to a halt.
What are we talking about?
I don't think it has.
Is it gaslighting in space going on right now?
The gaslight,
you guys are gaslighting me right now.
I'm just kind of,
you just say,
look at pump on.
They're doing great things. They ain't doing shit.
They've came to a complete halt.
The train has stopped.
What are we talking about? The train has stopped.
The billion dollar train has stopped.
You're exactly right.
It's been at a full stop.
Okay.
Do you think this is a short term thing
or a long term thing? Do you think this is a short-term thing or a long-term do you think that regulation
and them getting uh caught up in a case had anything to do with this
no well they didn't even show up i tell you one thing they didn't show up to break point why didn't
they show up to break point they don't have any fucking legal issues well i'm telling you legal
issues are real they could have a team represent them they could have people represent them
something going on. Facts.
I'm just saying the money train hasn't stopped.
It hasn't stopped.
It's going to rotate.
Money train's been terrible.
It changes hands.
Just because PumpFun died doesn't mean that there's not going to be another platform where people can't make money in the future.
I mean, nope.
Ask your mom.
Ask your dad.
Ask the normal person on the street.
Do they know what cow she is?
Nobody knows what the fuck cow she is.
What?
No one knows what 99% crypto is, Daniel.
What are we talking about here?
4% of people in the world hold crypto.
What are we talking about, Daniel?
Yeah, that's my point.
So why are we crying that there's no liquidity when 4% of people are in?
We haven't even hit mass adoption yet.
So the platforms that are here now might not
even be around in 10 years so like i'm saying pump fun that's cool but then in october all
i want to say all that volume and liquidity is fake in this space if you didn't learn anything
october 10th you should have learned that all this volume and liquidity is all propped up bullshit. Facts. Automated market makers, all these big players, all these big institutions that siphon money out of it.
Market makers were better than pump funds.
Facts.
Can't even market make the pump funds open. Fees too high. Ruin the space.
I think there's something bigger. I think it's the extractors that ruin the space i think there's something bigger i think it's the extractors that ruin the space and i think it's the people that manipulate the market and you know pull out
a lot of money from that market and not put that money back is what ruined the space not
not really pump pump specifically not really pump was the worst perpetrator of what you just
explained it was the worst perpetrator was the worst perpetrator because they allowed like all the hawk to a coins all the people got rugged
all of the two coins the two coins the celebrity meme coins were better than all these
content creators that are forced on us as coins guys wake the up yeah content this content
meta is there was money being made with the Haktua coins.
There's no money being made.
There's no money being made.
There's no money being made.
There's no money being made.
And Rasmus bundled to 6 mil market cap and never pumps coin.
You understand?
And goes nowhere but down to launch.
You could launch coins now without it being a content related right on pump fun
Of course
No one no one they've developed such a mindset that no one's gonna hold anything though, you know
Don't matter how bullish you make it or however bullish it is that coin. No one's gonna hold it
It's gonna get rotated out in the next 15 minutes But I guess what it is
Anything that doesn't is is just propped up by pump on money. I
Know you're gonna go right back to white whale. You can't help yourself. But what about white whale?
You can't help yourself
You don't think that's pump funds money propping that up to drive me over you think
Do you think that's pump funds might try and drive in attention build back trust after they just broke it?
Yeah, of course it is and getting back to the extraction. Well, they did up
They did a raise private raise and then guess what they did
They opened up a public raise 500 million dollar extraction and then where's pump on token to be gone, dude
They got that that priest gone. Thanks for the 500 million suckers they out
of here take advantage of it i agree with you but what i'm saying is take advantage of that moment
in the market like at the end of the day the market is just going to market i hate memes like
you're not going to have me up here you mean coins but you don't understand that this was all done
this was all the root of this right the root of Like, how did this even make it onto my timeline?
Algorithm manipulation.
They bought the app.
And then they just pushed, they force feed what they want to extract with.
You know, last month it was Pump.
This month it was Monad.
You know, next month it's going to be another $500 million leaving the space to never retire. So what benefit does the rotation market?
I'm not the rotation market.
I know you don't do this, but there's YouTube creators that literally, like, let's say last July, June,
they'll have 10,000 people on, and they'll say, let's all go buy this on PumpFun,
and it would all boom 100 plus percent, and then they would dump it just to do this.
So I'm like, all these dudes that are pumping it feel like it it it incentivized content creators to rug pool and it incentivized like
just as liquidity extractions over long-term investing so people that are investing in memes
and don't know it's a meme honestly they deserve to get wrecked i'd rather be rug pulled. I'd rather be rug pulled any day of the week
than buy into something that's heavily bundled and sniped by the founder up to a 10 mil market cap
and watch the entire timeline go crazy when it goes from 10 mil to 15 mil where no one even
doubled their money. Okay. And everyone's acting like, oh my God, it's at 15 low market cap,
and then watch it dump down to 300K.
I'd rather be rug pulled, G.
I'd rather be rug pulled.
And that's 99% of these tokens
that you see people raving about
because some influencer got paid some supply
because the team secured 95% of it,
paid a bunch of influencers,
and they went and tweeted about it.
And people look at these people as good actors in this space.
This whole space is fucked.
Facts.
Because they're economically incentivized
to do that bullshit.
The people that instantly rug pull you,
like you, and care about you more than the people
that fuck you over an eight-month period where
you're waiting for an announcement or you're waiting for some bullshit on their coin that's
just sitting there doing nothing until it goes to zero i'd rather get rug pulled the same day or in
the first five minutes than get rug pulled over a six-month course of time like half of jeb mccaleb's
coins that he ever released other than lxlm half of his ecosystem that he's ever put out is like negative 99 so honestly i've seen that with him not even
just other people but yeah and then even like hey what do you think of daniel and then and jeff
where'd this guy come from looks those guys know thinks he knows it all. If we platform him, he's going to do a hate space one day.
I can, like, we're bad and we're good.
No, I don't want any followers from this.
I'm just talking.
I don't really care.
I'm not getting paid for this.
If you didn't want any followers, you would be in the listeners listening.
No, or I can just talk.
It's a space for a reason.
It's like a public square.
No, if you didn't want any followers, you'd start your own space and talk.
No, I just want to come to a space
that's already there.
I like him, books.
He's a human face.
Amongst the cartoons.
Like, damn, I'm just being honest.
Like, Jed McCaleb legit.
Wasn't he the Mt. Gox? He's the original rug puller.
I'm not speaking bullshit.
He's good. He's not speaking he's good he's good he's good my problem is not him my problem is the nikita beer and all these solana people okay yeah i don't know the billionaires of the industry that ones that
really there were the original ones that rug pullers but never mind who is nikita anyway
the original ones that rug pullers but never mind who is nikita anyway what benefit what benefit
does solana have to like bull post monad and base what do you mean to extract it's the same
investors that investors that are invested in monad are the same investors are invested in
solana the same what good answer well yeah dude i've tracked this down i've already tracked this
out for us fellas like i've done all the work investor paradigm. I've done. I've done the work, baby. I've done the work. I'll tell you what it is.
I've done the work.
What?
I put it out in plain text, too.
They hate it that I know it. They hate it so much. They'll suspend my account.
I think I've raised the flag so high, though, that if they suspend this account, all hell is going to break loose and they know it.
They know all hell is going to break loose. They suspend my account this time.
They're like, damn, he's got us. He he's got his corner we just got to deal with him
we'll just try to suppress the algorithm as much as humanly possible but he'll just keep on spitting
those facts and people will be like damn he's right again he's right again runs crypto and
twitter he's right again you know how he does that he's right again the investors paradigm pantera
i mean before before it was paradigm and pantera guess, guess who it was? AI-16Z.
I'm sorry, A-16Z.
Those were the investors.
Guess who the investors were that with?
That was the Bored Apes investors.
And didn't they dominate the timeline?
They just raised $15 billion.
Did you see that?
Who raised $15 billion?
AI-16Z.
AI or A-16Z? I didn't mean to say AI.
A-16Z, I'm yeah yes what would they raise it
what they do oh for what what let me ask you a question where's that where's that money where's
that money now where's all the money they raised all this time and what happened to board ape yacht
pop eight coins all you the products after they did their big raises. It was before their big raises where
When VCs get involved, we get extracted.
But at least
books with this, we had a chance
to make money on ApeCoin
and Bored Ape.
Retail kind of exited
on A16Z. If they did,
they had the opportunity at least. No retail
had the opportunity to exit on Monad.
Who could
have exited on Monad?
Yeah, ApeCoin was at least airdropped to
holders.
That's when crypto Twitter was good though. I mean, that was
whenever retail could make money.
Retail can't make money anymore.
Yeah, but we ruined that though.
You got a frog in your pocket? I didn't ruin
this shit. I add liquidity and users to good applications day in and day out, baby. That's what I do
We shit on those people all the time though shit on who I gave us the most
Like the board apes and them projects that airdrop people hundreds of thousands of dollars. We shit on them today
No, we don't you do
Airdpped that coin?
What's that?
Like I said,
now airdropping a coin is a problem.
I thought that was a good thing.
I thought that was the point behind
this technology. Decentralization, that was the whole
point of airdrops. Going straight
to the user, to the people who invest
early, not the VCs and
shit like that.
Now, the VCs are getting the money off top and we're still complaining like there's a lose-lose here we just complain
about everything nah we don't everything in this whenever whenever we're pumping baby whenever we
got whenever we're whenever it's popping up the last time we were really pumping alex um probably
When was the last time we were really pumping, Alex?
Probably around peanut.
Peanut.
When we were winning.
2024, October.
There was a brief moment.
A brief moment in time.
I would say when Trump got in the office,
Trump token.
Yeah, yeah.
That was the top.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trump token was a 70X, guys. Trump token was a 70X. That was the top. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trump token was a 70X, guys.
Trump token was a 70X.
That was a token that's a pure example
of something that was heavily bundled
up to almost a billion market tax.
Like millions of dollars from the team
bundled that up.
Hooks, we were on space when it dropped.
It opened at like 2 billion, right?
Yeah, we got in at 1 billion on that.
We've got it.
But isn't that the point of all these meme coins?
Like they have a massive coin and they rotate it into some bullshit once they extract so people can't figure them out.
I'm not the smartest person.
No, because it doesn't give us what we once had when Bitcoin was way less money, when ETH was way less money, when SOL was way less money.
You look at Shiba,
you could have put $100 into Shiba
and pulled out millions of dollars.
We don't have that this time around.
We didn't have that this time around.
There wasn't even liquidity in the coins to do these things.
There wasn't even liquidity
in the coins to do these things.
This time it was a one-sided liquidity pool scam run by the Salonika ball, the Meteora, the Jukes, the Radium, the Pump Funds.
Like they fucked us and they fucked us nice.
And doesn't that go down to market conditioning?
Because all of this tracking over the last five years of how meme coins made money,
the psychology changed where now people think,
oh yeah, last time I made $100,000 on $100.
So they're just constantly chasing that versus likeβ¦
Yes, yes, yes.
But there's way more that it comes down to.
It comes down to oversaturating a space that should have never been saturated.
It's too young and too small to be saturated. And oversaturated with ship product we divided people too much also everybody
too many influencers too much everything not enough money and people and then also whenever a
coin goes up 100 instead of people having a long term like gold if gold went up people still hold
it but like with crypto people conditioned to oh let me get out so nobody
actually holds long term so it's not even good for a single ecosystem because as soon as something
goes up by 10 people are like oh snap that's the first time i made money in months i'm selling
what are you talking about gold no i'm just talking about crypto in general most people when
they fall like a pump like a hundred like gold went up a hundred percent it went from two thousand
to four thousand it didn't crash back down to 2,000.
But when crypto goes from 2,000 to 4,000,
the normal person is so scared of getting rugged,
they just sell and it's a cascading effect across the whole market.
People have been trained just to get in
and get out of crypto, get in and get out of crypto
and not ever be a long-term investor.
I'm not against people that trade all day.
That's cool.
There is money in that.
You can make a shit ton of money trading.
But your normal person in crypto is literally just trying to hit the damn lotto you might as well just go to vegas put a
hundred dollars down versus find something with real utility and like have a conviction about it
everybody's trying to find something on pump fund that's going to run a hundred thousand percent
and then dump on people it's ex-liquidity that's the part about the whole crypto space and stuff
actually what was the whole point about crypto in general?
Decentralization, having control of your own money.
Make money, motherfucker!
What do you mean?
No, no, no, no.
The point of crypto was it's the number one asset in all of the fucking world that went up in price.
I don't know what the hell you just said.
That's the social engineering side of it.
In the last year.
That's like I buy an NFT.
What?
Oh yeah, no, it's cooked. It's cooked.
And that's why we're seeing people off-boarded left, right, and center,
homie. We're seeing people trading stocks again because of this. We're seeing
DEXs now having to integrate stocks
because of this, because of how cooked.
And you know who's smiling? The big guys, because all the
people are scared as shit to even do anything now.
What do you mean?
You just said nobody's making money.
So what's the point of getting into crypto?
That's the best time when there's fear in the market,
blood in the market to do something.
If everybody's raving about this next project
and everybody's piling in at the top,
I mean, that's not the best way to make money.
What are we buying?
What are we buying?
Poly market?
What are you buying, Alex?
Tell me.
I'm not.
I just said we're going to transition to stocks if this continues to go this way.
What stock is doing great?
What I bought recently?
Motion.
Just Motion.
I bought some Motion.
I have bought some Aster.
And that's pretty much it.
I mean, why would you be trading i'm
not the one here larping and saying thinking about i'm putting in the solana to be honest
like right now at 138. what's it at 135. full port into it just and then you go they'll do
they'll just print out some more solana tokens don't worry it seems like yes
and he's there don't worry it seems like yes what what i mean the whole app is bullish on it i'm
sure they'll be i'm sure there's times and times of like liquidity the biggest meme coins btc
because whenever tether prints money and mints air quote usdt that never bits audited and then
pumps up the market they're not they're probably the biggest fucking joke in the whole market
can they get audited nope only usdc and rlusd market. Can they get audited? Nope.
Only USDC and RLUSD and a few other ones get audited.
USDT can print whatever they want to pump up Bitcoin and then dump the damn market.
That's a fact.
I think what BitKaz said is full port into Solana, guys.
See how far they get you.
You've got the whole algorithm in crypto Twitter.
Wait till this algorithm change. Solana is so fucking fucked. It's going to $50 a token. guys see how far they get you you've got the whole algorithm encrypted twitter tell it talk
wait till this algorithm change salon is so fucking fucked it's going to 50 a token it'll change you
think so you think so bro it's bro the the problem is there's nowhere to it can't grow anymore where
can it grow it can't grow anymore you know what's going to keep on growing oh dude you know he's
going to keep on growing cz bro that dude look what he look what he's doing Like people aren't paying attention. He's easy. I like CZ
Well, he's not going after dick streamers and creator coins dude. He's not he's not doing that
He's going bigger. That's what I like. I like I like where he's going with this shit
Um every day he's talking about meeting with another world leader and getting him into crypto
It's everyday event
are world leaders buying meme coins are they buying stuff with real utility
yeah bitcoin pretty much is what he's onboarding people too but you got to trade that bitcoin
somewhere baby finance and then that buying is so do you see Binance playing in the American crypto economy? Like, what role
do you see them playing? Aster does that.
Aster covers the West.
Aster and World Liberty 5 covers the West.
They're gonna
shit on
Bro, they're gonna shit on Coinbase
in a moment. Just give it, give it, let it go, baby.
Before Aster, what were you bullish
on? Like, what were you super, super
bullish on before Aster came around? Solanaana and let's be and let's be honest then like people in this space i guarantee
are the minority on how they think about crypto space but like you said four percent of people are
in what do you think the other 96 of people that are scared they ain't got the money they're gonna
go in and then and then everyone
looks at from an outside perspective like damn go i'll put my money and needle dick coin or into
microsoft and me i think i think they're just gonna go to microsoft whenever like the four
it depends on how much money you have man because i mean with people you have to have money for
stocks in order to get one full share you have to to have some damn money to buy a stock that's worth $100.
You're not going to get rich on buying $10, $100 stocks.
You ain't going to get rich buying needle dick coin.
You're going to lose that.
You know what you're going to do is lose that $100.
You're going to lose that $100 in needle dick coin.
But if I'm coming into this space right now with $1,000, right?
Yep, testicle and vagina is running right now. I i mean what great advertising we got for crypto at the moment
yo bro did you buy testicle corn yeah hey man i just bought testicle tesla no testicle
yeah guys we're gonna onboard the masses alex
wait why did i fucking rock no you're good i hear you oh okay okay yo alex what you were saying
before um yeah a lot of people they don't get into crypto because of events like uh
october 10th when the whole market just crashed they're like fuck crypto
you know what i mean scares people 100 agree it's not that they don't have money it's like
Manipulation by
I'll tell you what happened coinbase from the hot wallet transfer bitcoin to binance because
CZ just got pardoned and they were scared to spuck and they wanted to put him back in jail and try to get him
Unpardoned. Yeah, that's what happened. Bro, Coinbase committed more crimes.
They're the sleaziest motherfuckers.
They can rug crypto all they want because they got no fucking users.
Like, they have zero users.
No one's using fucking Coinbase.
Not a single person trades on Coinbase.
Nobody.
So they can just continue to rug and commit crimes.
The only thing they got going for them is that they're they've somehow bought out this fucking algorithm through
Nicky to bear. I don't know how that I don't know how this works and then they have like some legislation pool like that's it
No users
All the users are on by Ness
It's not even it's not even factual. You can't use by Nance, bro
Yeah, I know I know i know the us ain't the
us ain't they're they're coming back to life when it comes to crypto but yeah it's fine but like you
said so if you're gonna onboard people how the is bitcoin like i mean how how the hell is
binance the main culprit for people in america losing money when coinbase and all these other
apps are the main ones they use and they're going to be onboarded too but your normal person doesn't come through a decentralized exchange to buy crypto the most
person like you said is going to come on through jp morgan because they're the bank's going to tell
them oh we're partnered with coinbase go use them the normal person isn't no one's using coin no
one's using coinbase go look at the volume what's what's just go you just go you just go just go
hey hey hey hey daniel daniel go look at the volume do your gut yeah guys guys when you come up here i What's just go you just go you just go you just go you
Daniel Daniel go look at the volume do your gut. Yeah guys guys when you come up here I need some educated takes I can't do this for you guys like this is day one stuff
We're talking day one stuff. Nobody uses coinbase if you have it installed on your phone shame on you Alex
Come on. That's a bullshit comment, bro. No, no, no, no. Alex is right. I know I'm right.
Yo, Alex.
No, you guys need to listen to Alex.
Coinbase is only used for, like, your first week in crypto.
Like, okay, I bought some Bitcoin on Coinbase, whatever.
Then you start doing research like, oh, I need to have my own wallet.
I need my own, you know, seed phrase.
I need all this shit. Like, fuck Coin onboard people it's okay like coinbase is the first place people
haven't been onboarded yet so that's where they're gonna go when the bank's telling them to go
somewhere no i'm fine how you can onboard them if you're in the united states maybe this guy's
thinking like a beginner bro it's the first day here, books.
Coinbase is day one beginner. We got 20%,
over 20%
of the country is
onboarded to crypto. Am I right or wrong?
Yeah. The stock
market been around forever. 100%
of people did not get onboarded to the stock
market. They didn't get onboarded
to credit cards and everything.
Everyone is not coming to crypto. We need't get onboarded to credit cards and everything. Everyone is not coming
to crypto. We need to get that thought
out of our fucking head. Unless the
government forces it on us with CBDCs
and by then, we're not
going to have meme coins
and Solana and ETH
forced onboarding. We're going to
have government CBDCs. And we're going to have
that pretty fast too. All different kinds of like corporate
coins. That's not something you could put a dollar in and turn your dollar into a million dollars.
It's going to be stable.
Bro, my garbage guy asked me for coin picks.
The valet, when I park at a casino, wants to know what I'm buying.
Like, motherfuckers are in crypto, dog.
They are. like are in crypto dog they are i literally my garbage man asked me what i'm buying every week
they stomp and they honk the horn and wait till i come out
damn my friends is audience laugh at me when i tell them like yo you should buy this and like hell no i ain't buying that
we gotta ditch this thinking that we have this dt you know brain rot thinking where oh when everyone comes bro they ain't coming they came already and we them multiple times bro i mean
listen you know i was thinking while you guys were talking, like, I'm not going to shill it. I'm not going to do it.
But we have a fucking the greatest PVE right now.
And nobody's fucking with it because they weren't paid.
They weren't given aloe.
And, like, meanwhile, these motherfuckers are probably about to onboard 30 million motherfuckers to crypto, from my understanding.
But nope, nope, nope, nope.
All the fucking broke KOLs who don't actually fucking put their own 200K into the coin like I did don't want to fucking talk about it.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't want to fucking talk about it.
They're not fucking getting on board.
But we're going to hype up whatever the white whale thing is
or whatever the fucking animal is of the week.
But we won't hype up an enterprise business, a Fortune 500 company
with fucking top five most internet traffic in the world we're not
going to talk about it let's not talk about it let's not look at it let's not talk about it
because we don't like money we hate it he showed it i didn't show it he said don't look at it
he said don't look at it hold on dude hold on dude yeah i snuck it in there
i snuck it in there yeah you mad at me yeah hey that was a good test on the market for me
I got to see it play out
that just tells me everything I need to know about this
crypto twitter app we're using
ain't no one bullshitting me
they do not
want to fucking make money
you want to rally behind something right now
we have the first mega enterprise
company here but no we won't do it
we're gonna
fucking talk about white whale yeah because what cat or you got assholes shilling wozak
like just think about the thesis of wozak i'm like what the flog cabal the bot at all like
they always do and try to shake everyone out until they get you send from the group chat
and make people crash out i mean it's the same fucking play right i mean i'm not saying it won't
fucking move but jesus christ like there's no actual reason other than if a cabal can get a and make people crash out i mean it's the same play right i mean i'm not saying it won't move
but jesus christ like there's no actual reason other than if a cabal can get along for long
enough to send it up right so so there's like give me where's lakers coin where's where's
enterprise renter coin where's fucking something that people use if i can give me wing stop coin
and let me buy some chicken wings with the coin on a discount.
Right?
Because they're going to give me
promotions and advertising.
You know what I mean?
Like it.
Oh, that's a good idea.
I like that idea.
I'm just saying like
there's no.
That's utility.
That's actually a utility
in the damn real world.
Versus.
Something that people buy
all the time.
All the fucking time.
Some utility.
A Coca-Cola coin.
People fucking drink Coke
all damn day.
You know what I mean? Give me a fucking bell coin. I'm really buying some shit. Taco Bell, dude. I'll fucking times from utility. Coca-Cola coin. People fucking drink Coke all damn day. You know what I mean?
Give me a fucking Bell coin.
Taco Bell, dude.
I'll fucking cheat on my...
I haven't had a carb all fucking year.
I'll fucking use Taco Bell coin right now.
You know what I mean?
And if you get rewards,
if you buy through like a stable coin,
you buy some Taco Bell coin,
and when you're drunk...
Imagine Taco Bell says you could have 60% off your order
if you use Bell coin.
Bro, I'll have fucking a big bag of Taco Bell coin. You want to see people on board like a motherfucker? Says you could have 60% off your order if you use Oh
Big bag of Taco Bell coin you want to see people on board like a motherfucker watch talk about it
Hey 60% off all your orders if you use Belcoin and it's faster because crypto has like they're getting paid instantly
They can have Treasury
You idiots!
Pornhub is doing this right now, you dumb fucks!
But we're not going to talk about it, right?
Yeah, there probably is a lot of gooners in this chat that would probably buy that coin.
Pornhub is shipping 50 million wallets to their subscribers!
Wallets to their subscribers don't look into it
Don't look into it!
Imagine being able to slam your favorite porn star by paying with look token
That'll be a crazy like utility for being a holder
Like I'm not gonna
Oh F coin would be diabolical stay fucking poor poor fucks, but it's like
Let's not ratless. It is not even these people
I'm sure everyone
here has already made money on it twice, right, but I'm just saying, like, the rest of the space
and all these names that these boys talk about, you don't, they don't wanna, they, what, and by
the way, go to a fucking 10 normies and be like, hey, dude, Pornhub's got a token, they're fucking
buying, dawg, you want the easiest shill of your life, but we're gonna sit up here and talk about
fucking Coinbase, no one cares a fuck about Coin about coinbase bro normies keep their fucking ten dollars a Bitcoin on there, bro
Like no one who does any real moves is fucking using coinbase. I'm out here. I'm probably the only fucking
Influencer fucking web to motherfucker. They got converted to crypto that stayed
I don't know any other fucking influencer from YouTube days
They came to this space and was like, I'm going to stick around.
You guys are fucking great.
No, everyone's fucking terrible.
You just stay here for the money.
Got to move, group, navigate.
But yeah, I mean, I feel bad because you do have good people that are talking about good
shit and you got motherfuckers coming up here like, you know, the fact that you don't have
a fucking profile picture, bro, is your fucking problem.
Everyone up here is fucking docs, by way talking that fucking shit i'm sitting back here listening to this motherfucker inject
himself into the conversation not understand crypto culture the fact that when he was getting
called a faggot by fucking whatever the guy's name was right the smb that was up here like
you don't make money in crypto if you're not calling your boys faggots in the chat room
it's just the way it is if you're not fucking telling boys faggots in a chat room, it's just the way it is
If you're not fucking telling a dude that you're blowing behind the dumpster for 150x
You don't make money. In fact if when you talk
Your fucking room doesn't echo like mine. You're not making fucking money, right?
So I've been two seconds while I'm editing a bad bitch photo I can tell a motherfucker they don't really do this shit
But no, let me fucking push my face my terrible fucking face with my shitty angle. It's my profile
Let's listen to this guy. Hell fucking no
Listen to the big dicks with the Rolls Royces the crypto punks the projects the traders with the partnerships
Do not listen to the fucking fags like that
I gave him a chance to you guys know I gave much. I'm sitting back here like I'm giving a chance
I'm gonna give him a fucking shit one try to strike three strike
Hell fuck. Oh, but I am only here because it's only I should be able to see
No, bro
You're not gonna walk into a fucking room for the motherfuckers who get down, lay down, fucking make money, fuck bitches, smack you in the face, out-trade you, outplay you, do all the fucking things and get a fucking attitude.
Cause eventually, I'm gonna fucking let you smell the tangerine mint from my fucking mouth in your fucking face as I spit saliva all over you cause I can't take it anymore.
Thank you. I wanna apologize for everyone for my fucking outbursts. I was having a panic attack.
Retweet the space. No, you're good.
You're good.
No, I'm not actually apologizing. But you know what I mean. Retweet the space.
I think Daniel brings up some good points.
I think he's also a little too uptight.
He's going to loosen up just a little bit, you know? I think he's on a little too uptight he's going to loosen up just a little bit
you know
I think he's on too much Adderall
I think he can contain himself
he's on too much of a stimulant
everyone that speaks he has to interject
every single time
he's also a subject matter expert
on literally everything
we could be talking about how water is made
well you got the hydrogen module
and then you got the two oxygen modules
and they're coming together and they're forming H2O.
Hydrogen to oxygen.
Like, he will tell you about this.
It doesn't matter what the talking point is.
He's got a fucking answer for it.
Like, damn.
Damn, Daniel.
Damn.
So we can get wrecked, too?
Because you said we've been getting fucked.
You haven't told us the solution to make money yet.
So, I mean, I'm sorry for pointing out something.
We making money over here, Daniel.
What are you sleeping on?
Yeah, we actually make a lot of money.
We making money.
I'm sure you do.
Daniel's tripping.
You've been complaining about there's no liquidity in the market.
There's no liquidity.
There's no liquidity in the market.
What are you talking about?
No, we are making money.
But there's not enough money.
You got to understand.
We want to make too much money.
We want to make more money, Daniel.
How much money?
More of it.
You don't hit like a point like, well, you know, I'm making enough money.
It doesn't.
Who's that ever happened for?
Who is that in the world ever happened to?
You know, whatever they tell me.
Oh, you know, you don't want to make normal money.
Yes, the fuck he does.
There's no limit to that.
You understand.
There's no limit.
He wants that $25 of a subscription a month he wants more of it actually he's gonna fucking up it some more he
doesn't need any more money yes he does he wants more of it i've never met a person who said i
don't want more money i have you daniel but no i have not but also elon creates businesses that
actually create revenue and not just looking for money.
You remind me of Franklin.
You know who Franklin is?
I'm just being serious.
Elon creates real businesses that have real products.
Are you Franklin the turtle?
Are you Franklin?
Are you using a voice changer?
I think you're Franklin, dude.
No, you just can't.
Elon does not create real businesses.
Elon takes over on
delegates put the right puts the right people in charge
and over inflates their valuations
and makes them succeed
it doesn't really create shit Thank you. Is everyone just quiet right now is a space I was thinking is it rugging or what I don't know
wouldn't even let me come up
What are we thinking with Aster you think it'll go under 70 cents again or do you think it'll go towards 80. let's hear everyone's opinion okay
it's definitely gonna go towards 80 but i think astor is gonna go below 60. yeah i'm looking at
it right now 72 cents i'm like i don't know what i want to do where are they failing at books like
what like what's the issue they failed by doing the farming and the unlock in 2025 rather than 2026
the farming and the unlock in 2025
rather than 2026.
Because the price action...
They're failing by not competing with all the
exchanges.
They had all the attention and the
momentum and the price action just
didn't match that.
It was so frustrating holding that token.
I'm going to swing down to listeners. Thanks for having me up here,
boys. I appreciate it.
Have a good day, guys.
You too.
I think it just goes back to being patient
and thinking that these tokens are supposed to 100x.
It's just like Polymarket.
Polymarket is competing with what?
It's competing with sportsbooks and casinos.
Am I right or wrong?
Correct.
If the sportsbook and casino is giving me 100%
Shut the fuck up. If a sportsbook and a casino is giving me a 100%... Shut the fuck up.
If a sportsbook in a casino is giving me a 100% deposit match on 25K,
so I go deposit 25K, I get a free 25K from the sportsbook,
why the fuck would I deposit 25K on Polymarket?
Now, it's the same thing with all these smaller centralized exchanges.
Bro, they're giving influencers mad money.
They're giving influencers Rolls Royces in Dubai.
They're giving them crazy commissions.
They're giving new users deposit bonuses.
They're giving you trading competitions where you can win a fucking Lambo.
And Aster is not competing with this.
Aster is not competing with this.
You know, Aster is giving you 15% or 10% commission as an influencer
versus other exchanges are giving you 80% and a retainer.
Aster is not giving their own people that are trading there any incentive,
any money besides that bullshit farming that they did.
It's just not enough.
It's just like them thinking they're bigger than...
You can't compete without incentives in this world.
It's them thinking they're bigger than the program.
Like, they don't have to play the game.
Like, I'm on Binance.
I got CZ backing me.
I don't have to do the things these smaller exchanges are doing.
And that's...
Not just that, bro.
It has become a raise a bunch of money
over inflate evaluation
economy in this space.
And that's not good at all.
Straight up.
It's the same thing in the stock market.
Not good at all.
yeah i don't know what to do with this shit right now i kind of want to long it i want
this long at this morning i should have there's that's another thing is like i feel like almost
purposely you're getting hunted if you long on that token. Anything you do. Yo, I feel that
100%. I've never felt that on any
other token but Aster.
Like, they're trying to hunt you.
Bro, you should never ever leverage
Aster again. If you look at the heat map,
they're fucking anyone.
Long or short.
Exactly.
Like, just look at the heat map.
That hidden order thing was good
hidden orders was good when mad people were
trading aster
nobody's really trading it like that
the hidden orders are not so
hidden because it's such a small pool
of hidden orders people don't understand
that
the volume on aster is not good
lately
the volume is bullshitster's not good lately.
The volume's bullshit, bro.
On every exchange.
It's literally...
Is that because retail's the brokest has ever been?
Bro, Aster volume is two under fart coin.
Like, what?
Like, what is L-A-T-S-Y-S H-Bar B-G-B?
Damn.
Are you talking about in Perpetuals?
What do you mean?
No, I'm just talking about regular. Like spot?
Yeah, spot.
I'm on
BitGet right now. Just
going through shit.
You're talking about the coin
itself, AsterCoin itself aster coin itself right yeah not the
exchange trading the point on spot yeah chillin you see in this oh yeah people tag him in the
solana and Twitter shit yeah yeah it seems like you said about that Solana Twitter shit long time
ago oh bro I'm head of schedule I'm six months ahead of these motherfuckers
Do I was months ago? You said I've been saying it. It's annoying, bro
It's annoying, but they don't do anything. What can you do like complain what am I gonna do complain about it?
Yeah, I'll do that a little bit, but they gonna make no changes
There's nothing you can do. No, there's nothing and the thing that pissed me off is that they like brag about it in your face
They like let you know i'm like damn dude
we get it yo you know what we need another like monad or xpl so we could short that
like what's the next one coming out
did it just go quiet or rug yeah no no he doesn't know that
what do you think of the 30 token unlocks for ecosystem and community on Asper. I mean, as long as I get that 30%, I'm fine with it.
If I don't, then I'm going to complain.
Next.
If I get the coins, I'm happy.
If I don't, I don't like it.
Hey, I will say that they're good at identifying community, though.
I'll give them that.
When's the next unlock?
February?
Anyone? Yes? No?
I haven't been keeping up at all.
I'd need to educate it.
40, 50 cents.
I'm just a loyal community member.
40, 50 cents in February.
Unless the market starts ripping.
We're going to 40, 50 cents?
In February, unless the market starts ripping.
When the next unlock happens.
Yo, I was looking at it, and I'm looking at the 72 cents.
I'm like, bro, I think it's going to go under 70 cents.
100%.
It already has.
So, like, I should short it. What happened with the buybacks? No, I don't know what it's gonna go under 70 cents 100 it already has so like i should short it what happened with the
buybacks no i don't buybacks i'm not telling you to short anything now i'm talking about the
unlocks next month it could go to 90 cents tomorrow for all we know true
like if someone right now outside the team goes and puts a 10 million dollar short in
it might pump to 85 90 cents just to wreck that guy steal his money and then go back down to 70
just like it has a few times you can unlock this in five days january 16. wait wait that's the next
unlock yeah that's what i saw do we know what percent is unlocking 78.4 asters million ester
78.4 million as how much money is that 56 million
no nothing crazy and what's up with the buybacks are they racking it up again
i don't know man. Has anyone been tracking that?
Part of me was like, why didn't I fucking just short this shit when it was like $1.08?
It was just moving sideways for like two weeks, a dollar five to dollar eight.
Like it was so in plain sight that it wants to go under a dollar.
Another thing,
if you want to short Aster,
do not short it on Aster platform.
What'd you say?
Like shorting Aster is a bit risky, man, because like any tweets from CZ could boost the price and also shorting it No, no, no, I'm not shorting it now
Yeah
Like
It was a tweet and it'll pump 20% instant. Oh, you're cooked. You're cooked. Yeah, you're doesn't matter what leverage you use
You're fucking like hey guys. I just bought some more
Laughing emoji at 78 cents you know i
don't know when the bottom is on these things like some fucking very yo then he'll fucking
he'll tweet again like two hours later like oh i just bought more like liquidate more shorts
yeah he'll do it though he's a sick and he'll send that a laughing emoji too like ha ha i know
he loves it he loves a little sideways crying laughing it's funny as fuck it's the funniest shit on this app his emojis are fucking hilarious they're like
so satire funny it it makes me shit my pants every time he's definitely the funniest guy on this app
i mean he's been doing crypto twitter longer than anyone else he knows what he knows the game
i love when he trolls but i wish he'd talk more about it hey i know he's been doing crypto Twitter longer than anyone else. He knows the game.
I love when he trolls people. But I wish he'd talk more about it.
Hey, I know he's down there in the grease trap.
CZ, we need some more Astro tweets.
It's been long enough.
We've felt enough pain.
There's nobody...
Like, you're not shaking anyone out at this point.
There's no one getting shook out.
You're just not going to do it.
Let's get the thing rolling again.
Let's get the tweets pumping out there again.
Let's start bullshitting on the timeline again.
We got this.
Yeah, whoever's still here.
There's probably a few whales, Alex.
There's probably a few whales that they're monitoring.
That's what I'm thinking.
Like, they want those whales money, and they're just monitoring,
and they're trying to take those few whales out.
Yeah, it's been long.
Like, I get it.
Like, CZ's like, you know what?
These motherfuckers, every time I tweet,
they want to pump and dump on my tweet,
so I'm just not going to tweet.
I'm just going to let everyone get the fuck out.
It's been long enough.
Let's get this ball rolling again.
They rewarded too many hyperliquid people.
Early.
What's the perp volume on?
And at some point
Real world utility takes over
Because if all we're doing is pumping off of tweets
That's the same shit that Gary Gensler
Was saying like oh it's a security
Because a motherfucker tweeted it
And then the shit goes up right after
Holy shit Bro the trading volume on all perp decks is is cooked
hyper liquid is like hyper liquid lighter and aster aren't even in the top three
it goes dm dmex edgex hyper liquid lighter aster and then the top one's at 2.4 bill and lighter's at 1.5
bill i don't know you don't think that means uh liquidity's rotating back to memes and other
things no that means that those three exchanges are wash trading heavy to attract people and attract investors.
The money in perps trading is not really much meme coin money.
Perps trading money is always there.
It just, lately, right, over like the last nine months,
we saw a lot of meme coin money come in, but it's not much.
That money's been wrecked.
That money got wrecked per perpetrating on October 10th.
Perpetrating does not depend on meme coin liquidity at all.
But meme coin liquidity
depends on every dollar
in this space.
Correct.
I was just like speaking
as far as like attention goes.
Daniel,
Daniel,
thank you for
saying correct after I was done super necessary no you're
welcome it is a space where I talk dumbass correct what the hell I mean if I say I agree with him
and then he gets mad like he's a little baby no I don't like this Daniel guy that's cool I'll leave
off your space Alex I appreciate, but if I say correct
and then somebody gets mad because I agreed with them,
that dude's got a little ego.
So, my bad.
Yeah.
Daniel, you need some testosterone, sounds like.
Hi, guys. Good morning.
Good morning.
Hi, Elizabeth. hi guys good morning good morning hi elizabeth what's up lizzie
we lost daniel and we got elizabeth let's see how things go
is elizabeth here we lost her too now
dude i was i was i was gonna tell that guy We lost her too now Dude I was
I was gonna tell that guy
Sounds like he has a wedgie
I felt like his art he was like
That guy Daniel is someone's alt account
Someone that got cancelled
Or some bullshit
100%
Dude I thought it was Franklin
Or a voice changer.
Nah, he's not Franklin.
Hell no.
No, no.
Think so?
Franklin would never say correct.
Franklin wouldn't talk over people like that.
Bro, when he said correct, I'm like, that was the gayest thing I've ever heard.
He just, he over-talked people a lot.
No, it's not like, if you people a lot. I don't care. If we're having
a conversation with each other and he says,
correct, we're
going back and forth or whatever, it's fine.
But this guy just talks when
untalked to.
It's annoying.
He seemed a little bit sassy, too.
Like, honestly.
Like, honestly. That's his thing. Like, honestly.
The Cozy thing earlier is what
made me not like him.
Well, Cozy
came at... I felt like Cozy came at him
first, but I guess Cozy spotted him.
Bro, Cozy's amazing, guys.
He's a great person.
Great guy.
Cozy was sitting here talking
shit to Alex. It was in the spirit of, like, how he was interacting here talking to alex it was it was it was in the
spirit of like how he was interacting so it wasn't like that's that's him not having wherewithal
about like the vibes well but still like that's why you should sit in the listeners but everyone
that wants to grow an account to pull a rug pull off or something they do is they request to come
up on stage right away you know they want to be the
one to a main character syndrome you can smell it from a mile away bro that's the biggest problem
with people in this space everyone wants to be the main character too many chiefs not enough
indians and in person they hide in the though. There's nothing main character about them IRL.
What, at the function, they're hiding in the washroom?
Well...
Oh, social anxiety.
You feel me?
As soon as the bill comes, I got to use the bathroom.
I'm the same way because I already know.
Alex makes up an excuse to leave 20 minutes before.
He does it very, very slick.
I got a space. I got to start, guys guys and the wi-fi here isn't working i gotta get chat back to the apartment just gives me like vibes
like if he knows you want him to do one thing he's gonna do the opposite alex will go in with good
intention that's you guys to pay the bill and then he'll watch us ordering and he'll start adding up the bill and then want to leave yep that's exactly right that's exactly right books i'm like wait a second i okay i took
i took a monster i took i took monster to um like a dinner place and it was economical that's why
i invited him and i was getting i was you know i was like
you know last day i'm gonna go pay for the uh the dinner for once i haven't done this since i've been
here i've been here for three months might as well to get one bill and then he takes the menu and he
starts ordering everything i'm just gonna order for the table i'm like oh no that's on you then
and then whenever the bill showed up i said hey uh you got that too right you got the food and
the bill and then he was very, Alex, they order like family.
They order like it's a family thing.
You got to understand that.
Like, they order for the table, not the individual.
Well, you got to understand some people like certain food. So when you order family, you got to act accordingly.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Bro, Alex is not used to that.
Alex grew up where his dad's like, all right, Alex, we got to go to the VA.
They're giving free popeyes
to the veterans today i'm gonna need you to gather all your friends all your friends let's pick up
some kids walking down the road have them pick up some meals for us too oh you're so right you're so
right folks oh my god that's that's the only thing i missed from the united states was veterans day
and then we'd hit up everything i mean your local sheath was getting bombarded and i'm talking breakfast lunch and dinner and we had our we had our own rotation
we had it all scouted out our chick-fil-a's our subways i mean i'm telling you what we
and we had to i do alex gives the vibe that he'll let you pay the bill books but
he also gives the vibe that he'll take someone off the street and feed them like
yeah yeah like he'd rather spend his money doing that type of shit than like He also gives the vibe that he'll take someone off the street and feed them. Yeah, yeah.
He'd rather spend his money doing that type of shit than...
I don't know.
He fills up water buckets, man.
I think he's a CIA agent.
I told him that.
Nobody just chooses to live in Columbia and fill up...
He could have been.
He could have been.
He's not.
He could have been.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
One of them CIA agents that did some crazy shit.
They just want to live
in foreign countries,
take care of people.
They got millions of dollars.
They just fill up
water buckets
to make them feel
accomplished for the day.
Like,
that type of shit.
Are you guys still in Dubai?
Yeah.
You should come, Baka.
Crypto Twitter's dead. We all migrated to Dubai. Yeah. You should come, Baca. Crypto Twitter's dead.
We all migrated to Dubai.
So we're going back to Discord.
What are you guys doing over there?
Just walking around the mall and shit?
Yeah.
Eating coffee.
Eating caviar for breakfast.
You gonna come out and drink some coffee with us?
Hell yeah. Free coffee. Yo, when's the content house?
Really soon actually from what I understand
When is the content house books
We got some cooking to do still
Let me paint it
You're not allowed.
You're not allowed.
We're not allowed, Azadi.
You can't.
We're getting into a bigger house.
Any kind of thing outside of Dubai.
Like, outside.
Even if I...
Like, we wanted to get a Lambo and wrap it with the brand and leave it parked in front
of the house.
You're not allowed.
You're going to do luxury, crypto advertising lifestyle type of content
Wait, they don't allow like like full wraps over there with that
No, they allow full wraps and they don't allow advertising without permission and it's very impossible. Oh, well, that's the same here
I can't put a commercial logo on the house, but like you can be cheeky
but like you can be cheeky
like I got in trouble when I did the supreme mansion for putting supreme on
the front of the house wow like actually in trouble not like they gave me a
ticket and so you had two weeks to take it down or you're gonna pay blah blah
because of someone else's IP right Nope because it's a commercial logo
Okay advertising you're turning your home to a billboard
Yeah, but if you know I change it just I change it from supreme to subscriber
Right and then they couldn't say anything
What's next for the house though? How long are you keeping the look up?
It's up.
It's up.
You know, I'm keeping the look up
so that shit goes to the fucking moon.
I mean, we already are.
We should be free rolling by now,
but like, you know,
I'm pretty bullish.
Personally, you know.
You just keep pushing.
It'll bust through.
Pause.
No pun intended.
I mean, I'm like the only one even fucking bullposting about it.
But like, you know, it's like, listen, ALO needs to do their thing.
I mean, like all of fucking, you know, everybody's already showed this thing in the timeline.
Huh?
If you started shooting, you don't think if you started like filming your content on PumpFun
and streaming off of there, they wouldn't support you what no i'm not i have to launch a token
to stream oh shit that's right that's right yeah yeah my fault yeah no i'm i'm making i'm doing
pop bar polaroid brought to you by the coin i mean i post every day normies are fucking accumulating
you know i mean that i talk to you more than like crypto twitter people like real like guys you know uh and then really you're just waiting on alo to actually
do the thing i think we've done as much as we can do right like the timeline's already traded it
and won on it twice like what more can we do we sent it to 100 million twice right like
it's it's there it's chilling it's accumulating, you know, there's regime change
stuff going on, as I understand it, right? Now the ALO is officially in the driver's seat,
because you gotta understand, which was a little bit surprising news, I think everyone, you know,
that deal got announced post everything that we did. So it's kind of an eyebrow raiser,
because that wasn't what was communicated to us, right? But I digress.
You know, I think that's the opportunity is that we all got fucking super hype on something
before the deal is even across the line.
And now that deal is across the line.
It's on ALO's website.
So what are you waiting on?
You're not waiting on me.
You're not waiting on Alex.
You're not waiting on books.
You're not waiting on fucking even LookCoin.
You're waiting on ALO to have its fucking companies integrate and promote
the fuck out of the thing right so i mean it's pretty straightforward you know they're a big
company so they have as i understand it you know like a 40 person team assembled and you know ad
placements that are running out this month and announcements that are coming and then the whole
force of all their advertising going into exclusively look for the rest of the year.
I mean, you know, aside from integrations and announcements that I'm not going to steal from them.
But there's some cleaning house that needed to be done, for sure.
Because I still see your content all over, especially on Instagram.
Yeah, it's like picking up. It's a new new format it's not me painting the mansion right i see it more like my instagram
timeline than i do on x i mean nobody on x i was talking to my discord about it last night like
nobody on x fucks with me other than alex and books like nobody i don't know i don't know why
it's you know i mean like it's a part of like the
problem with crypto twitter it's like you guys want influencers to come here an influencer came
here and then you know i've been called a scammer and all the other things for just trying to
participate right it's like look what we did to nick cannon ran him off he was here trying to
bring paramount pictures into the fucking game and you know you had fuckers on stage running them off you know so um you know you can't run me off I'm just here fucking chilling but uh yeah I mean I think you know I'm working on a new format of content that takes time to perfect you know I'm like analyzing watch time it's not what I'm known for doing and you know like but it is fun to fucking have a smoke come over to the house
every day and fucking do a photo shoot yeah i mean like last night's chick was fucking smoking hot
and then um you know plus i have all this content is not just what i'm posting it's like
you know there's gonna be external uh traffic driven to what i'm doing at some point so that's cool you know but yeah I had people come
to my house and re-engage me because I was very unengaged I was holding my moon bag but I was
very unengaged from the situation and now I'm re-engaged so you know what I saw on Instagram
like the uh I think it was from your guy D Lord popped up on my timeline when he was talking about
like uh Akon and like how you could be around celebrities and not even talk about it and shit like that.
Did he put a tweet out like that or was that on Instagram?
Yeah, he tweeted that.
Oh, that was a tweet? Okay.
Alright.
Yeah, I was like...
Yeah, I'd be doing shit, you know? I'd be doing real shit.
But like, yeah, D-Lord'sr's right here, say what's up.
Whoa.
He wants to paint a Dubai mansion.
Don't get him started.
Or get him started.
Get me started.
Yeah, he's coughing up right now, you know what I mean?
But yeah, no, Danny's the best.
Yeah, we were out, we were out fucking with the con.
You know, hey, conning, zody. Trying to do the party.
Well, CES is in town.
So I haven't gone out.
You guys know this ever for anyone who knows or cares.
But I went to the Snapchat, you know, like executive party.
And that was cool to see Snoop.
And then we had to go to a bike dance like thing in like Chinatown.
They're so funny.
All these casinos, they get they get moss
puff of war to have a fucking like private like shindig so you know went over there con and then
we had a well i didn't but i went i refereed a white castle burger eating contest in the parking
lot by virgin uh between joey reed and akon but uh yeah i I mean you know I have very strong beliefs on like content creation
and what it takes to get normies involved and what's cool but I could tell you you know when
I'm interacting with people on crypto twitter that are just savages degenerate gamblers and
people are looking for opportunities that's one conversation and you know people are becoming
more interested on Instagram I mean they're looking but like
they don't understand meme coin shells they're like why right but they understand that the look
token show pretty easy so that's good but nonetheless you know like um it's not on my
shoulders i feel like i already won i'm just doing a victory lap that's how i feel about it you know
it's not on my shoulders to do a thing.
We had a community rocking with it.
I think no matter what, the chart's 80% of any marketing.
So until that chart goes vertical,
then everyone's going to be posting about it at 70 to 80 mil.
But it's tough when the thing rips to 150 mil and all you savages take profits
and the previous people in charge are
mass extracting to get whatever liquidity they needed to get whatever deal over the line and so
that can only happen so many times before you're like fuck dog you know i'm saying um and so anyway
i mean you know it's fun to bull post 150 mil candle but not when it looks like a christmas tree
for real deal kolss, you know?
And so I'm sure like once you have that vertical action again, then you see everybody talk about it because then, you know, it's like, feels good to talk about it. Right. But, you know,
if you're not, if you don't have pump fund arrangement syndrome, then to Daniel's point,
or I don't know if it was Daniel's point, maybe someone else's point, I think it's a solid
investment and the risk reward is fucking there for me to hold fucking more supply than I'm comfortable disclosing.
Hell yeah.
But, you know, you gotta go for it every once in a while.
You gotta go for it, boys, you know what I go for it boys you know what i mean that's one
thing i learned about cryptos every once in a while you gotta fucking go for it you know
like you're not always gonna be right but if you if it sounds solid enough that it could be a thing
should be a thing every once in a while you gotta make an educated decision to motherfucking go for
it i'm going for it i'm motherfucking going it because, you know, on some real shit, just for the things that they've leaked or they've hinted at strongly.
Right. Like, you know, you have a service like Pornhub Premium come back and you have, you know, 30 to 50 million wallets deployed.
And you to the Taco Bell analogy that we're using earlier, you give people 40 to 60 percent off on their subscriptions.
Plus, you add microipping to all the platforms,
and they have more than just like, you know, adult,
they have gaming, like gambling sites and a bunch of shit
within their eco, right?
Plus you turn on all the marketing funnels
to actually drive traffic, and then the next thing
that no one's talking about is like,
oh, I have 300,000 creators signed
to my fucking affiliate companies,
how do I incentivize them to all start shilling this thing?
And by the way, giving 40 to 60% means nothing if you're going to 100x a token.
Why wouldn't you give those types of discounts, right?
You're 100x in your money anyway.
You're not losing anything.
So, you know, but I digress from that point to say, all you got to do is, you know, in
addition to running your marketing funnels is make sure your creators are incentivized and don't feel left out and give them a way
to win so that they all go fucking talk about it or for at least the ones that are comfortable
talking about crypto or indirectly talk about it, give them some reason they need the token
in the same sense that they need diamonds.
All these adult companies have a diamonds or coin platform.
It's just their native, like, you know, V-Bucks, like Fortnite, right?
So just changing that to, like, an actual token, you know what I mean?
Like, what's the difference, you know?
But, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's that.
As far as me, you know, like I said, I'm just going to keep posting fucking the Pop Art Polaroid content,
integrating look into what I'm doing, because my fucking house is painted orange with eyeballs all over it,
and I have to wake up thinking about these bags every day.
I'm done talking.
Hell yeah, hell yeah hell yeah all that was really interesting is oddy you know i'm saying some great insight and takes on the fucking you know lukewarm situation you know it must be rough to
have an orange painted mansion and have to shoot hot girls in your backyard every day i really feel
for you bro you know you're fucking but i gotta respect that you stand on business for your bags
and your conviction in the project.
You know, like, it's really cool.
I know that no one at all in crypto Twitter fucks with you, like, even a little bit, but
you know, it's okay, man, because, you know, you'll take the money and the fucking bitches,
you know, so you got, at least you got that, you know, you don't need the respect.
Yeah, you guys are right.
right it doesn't make a lot of sense made you feel better thanks
You guys are making a lot of sense.
Made me feel better.
Thanks.
i think that wraps it up it's a good market update
we didn't talk about nfts what do you mean we talked about motion and clone x what other nfts
we're talking about did we i missed that part yeah because you got you don't pay attention
yeah you don't pitch you. Yeah, you don't pay attention.
You're talking about prediction markets or something.
You were a ticker for the next meme coin.
Alex.
Yeah?
Let's run another one later.
Yeah, I'm going to.
Another space?
Trying to get the alpha.
We got to get the alpha we gotta get the vibes
back we gotta we gotta save oh dude the vibes are immaculate dude the vibes couldn't be better yeah
every space is a great space do you think we can get nikita bear on here what's that i don't want
to talk to nikita bear i have nothing to say to nikita bear don't do that in one of the circles
go do that in a circle jerk space. There's enough of those spaces going
on. Please don't just turn every space
into a circle jerk. We got enough of those.
We don't need another one of those.
Did you speak to Mert at Breakpoint?
I heard Mert was looking for you.
Wait, did Mert
let you interview him, Alex?
Oh, man. I just wanted to ask him about
all the shit he talks on the internet.
And then, you know, accountability showed up.
But you went to his own party, didn't you?
Yeah, yeah.
He left when I showed up.
What was a couple people?
I just don't picture any, like, grown man, like, seeing Alex walk in and be like, I'm out of here.
Can we get Saga down here, Alex? Can we get Saga down in here, Alex?
Can we get Saga down in this space right now?
All head and shoulders.
No neck.
Arms short.
Why would anyone be afraid of this guy?
Alex, can we get the Saga down people in here right now?
Get them in here? Yeah. right now get them in here yeah
we can get them in here they they they're doing like uh they're doing like exam or something they they got like they got doing like a 500 or not 50 million dollar raise right now through dats
whatever that is they're on their own 50 what 50 mil raised they're in the middle of it I
think they already raised like five mil or something I don't know we could
probably get to talk to him about it but I don't know anything about that's
that's something you guys know about not so now I know about I think that's
where the money's that building products and pitching products at this point in
the market it definitely ain't trading shit it's there's not enough liquidity
on chain for that.
How much do you think we'd raise?
Oh, a lot.
If we do a real product, we'd raise a lot.
That's what I think we should pick too.
Working on real product, give it to people,
give it to the right... I think the products
fail
whenever they give the
airdrop to the wrong people.
Do the product, airdrop to the right people,
and I think the VCs and the people win there's
there's a scenario that plays out that this works you're gonna be uh you're gonna be available later
we're gonna do another space yeah i'll be available but i'm thinking more we get some on this space right now maybe
who's saga now yeah yeah get saga though here now books is gonna be sleeping there's no point
in ending this space right now alex always look the opposite if he got
