Markets Bounce after FOMC, Trump Speech today, SEC drops XRP case!

Recorded: March 20, 2025 Duration: 1:08:26
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In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the latest trends and developments in the market, including the launch of On-Chain Heroes, a new partnership with Abstract, and the impact of recent FOMC meetings on Bitcoin's price surge. Additionally, the conversation highlighted upcoming token launches and the resilience of NFT floor prices amidst market fluctuations.

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Yo yo yo what up what up good morning good morning GFGF Thursday oh yeah Thursday March
20th 2025 look at that another beautiful day to have a beautiful day a big gm to my fellow persian people happy norris happy new year this
morning 501 am eastern time the spring equinox hit the birds were chirping the sun was well not
shining but you know surprising uh or it was shining in other parts of the world where it was
where it was daytime so i definitely definitely want definitely want to wish all those who celebrate.
Even those who don't, you know, Tyler, even to you,
anybody else, you know, it's a moment of renewal, affluence, love and all that
good stuff. So you love to see that.
Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, how are you doing today?
Good morning. I'm good.
I love spring.
One of my favorite seasons.
So we're not quite there yet.
We had a snow. We had a great look outside. I we're not quite there yet. We had a snow sweet.
A quick look outside.
Chicago yesterday.
It's brutal snow on the ground, but ready to turn things around and
the markets looking pretty good this morning.
So I'm feeling good.
The market's looking to just bring us around the corner.
You know what I mean?
Like the market is trying to give us a little bit of something.
I think that's no storm talking about making this way to me.
We're good today, but I think I'm pretty sure it's on its way. So it's like
we're never going to not have snow. It's crazy. Classic. It's a classic little, it shakes
the paper hands here in Montreal every time, end of March, you know and you got other snowbirds that fly back to Canada
and then he's slapping with another fucking snowstorm. Classic, classic. Anyways everybody
tag Mando where the fuck is Mando? I have no idea I'm gonna tag him I'm gonna tag him. The other show
we have um are you coming on the show today? So tell us, show what we got.
We got, we got so much to talk about.
We've got the market at 4MC yesterday, all the good stuff.
The most powerful man on earth.
That's not a president, it's your own Powell.
Uh, took the stand.
That guy is so powerful when you think about it.
He's like sometimes a tie collar away from destroying the global economy.
Simply how he chooses to answer the questions that are asked.
That if you want to talk to you about that and how good he is at that at some point today,
but also guy shows up in the red tie, global economy is finished.
Guy shows up in the purple tie, doesn't mean we're great, but it doesn't mean we're bad.
You know what I mean?
Like he's got-
He's in on it, right?
He has to know that at this point.
He's got to know that there's like a ton of money.
Like I think there's millions on the line every time he's going to tie.
For the next FOMC, make sure we have a myriad market up for for you guys. Because someone asked, Wiz, yesterday was on stream on abstract.
And I was like, yo bro, where you at?
Like we need a myriad market for the color of this fucking tie.
I was like, OK, OK, OK.
We'll try and get one up next time.
I think it's always skewed towards purple.
So one day, though, let me tell you, the day he pulls up in an orange tie,
that's when that's when ties will shift. We run the table. Yeah, we run the day he
does that. I mean, I don't know, all the stuff you got in your house, this is where he's got to go.
Even the new Tyler D household, it's got to go and you get you get the new you got that new
everything on BigQuery. Anyways, so let's roll all this stuff. and then we have guests coming on today special guest Lucanets is coming on as well as as the founder right founder of onchoneiros.
Is that what I got?
Skyler right.
So I was coming on.
What is it?
Scarlett Scarlett.
Sorry I saw Skyler my bad.
Scarlett I read that wrong.
But Scarlett is coming on.
Hell yeah.
Found of onchoneiros. They're cooking over there. I read that wrong. My bad. But Scarlett is coming on. Hell yeah. Founder on Shin'iro.
They're cooking over there. I love that. Another great Web3 gaming. Web3 gaming has been a big topic conversation this past week. Again, a lot of people dunking on, etc., as usual. But it looks
like there's some people that are making moves here on abstract. And Scarlett and her team are
definitely some of those people. So they'll be coming on later.
Then we have a robot loot box as usual, so if you want to win a punk...
Actually, I removed the punk, but I put a 10% chance to win a penguin.
And I'm adding another penguin, because that's still not enough.
So there's literally going to be over 10% chances that someone's going to win a pudgy penguin
If you ask me, that's not bad.
That's good odds, right?
That's better odds than hitting on a pump fund.
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Tyler T on FOMO hour calls the kids can miss.
Yeah folks good news crypto majors and stocks rallying on the back of yesterday's
FOMC meeting and pal's commentary, which I think interpreted dovish. We'll get into that
here in a bit. Bitcoin 86 K. ETH did give back some of its gates. So we had a nice rally
yesterday. It's back under 2k. Can't have nice things in the ETH street. So I swear
to God, man, hanging out at 131. It's actually flipped right on the day as well.
So this is now a Bitcoin rally.
There is a lot of anticipation folks expected in 30 minutes.
President Trump expected to make a major crypto announcement
virtually live at the Digital Asset Summit Conference.
So that may break during the show here.
So we're going to keep an eye on that. Same time,
Trump media executives are launching a crypto SPAC looking to raise 179 million to invest
in American crypto and blockchain companies. That was a big headline from yesterday. We
have the Solana futures ETFs. They start trading today with vol shares, uh, potentially paving the way for those spot ETFs to come down the line.
And other slana news, totally co-founder slana.
He slammed.
Yeah, I saw that.
Versatile ad saying it was punching down and vowed to ensure he'll do his part to make
sure the slana is good.
He's on mission.
You know, the culture wars.
So we liked that from totally crack it nearing a $1.5 billion acquisition
of futures trading platform Ninja trader.
That's a big deal, folks.
So we'll see if that does indeed go through.
It looks like it will.
Black Rock folks.
They debuted a new crypto pitch video.
They're good at these tag lines.
They describe Bitcoin as a global emerging monetary alternative.
And the theory I haven't heard this exact
theory pitch before, but a theory as a technology platform
built to enable the next generation of financial applications
and to think of it like a revenue generating app store.
So I thought that was interesting there from a Black Rock spokesman.
And then this Turkish crypto exchange, they saw a major
surge in volume after the lira. The Turkish lira dropped 13%
following and arrest of their president's rival. So that's
highlighting a major use case of crypto right there. Kind of
a flight to safety and currency debasement hedge in token
air drop in protocol news. You just swap token holders voted
to approve two governance proposals for $165 million,
one of which to lay the foundation for activating their fee switch and another to grow the broader
ecosystem. Blast, their app store went live for white listed wallets expected to open up more soon.
New airdrop alert for this definitive protocol. It's an on-chain trading platform. I don't know
a whole lot about it, but those who have 100 K plus volume on protocols like
hype, jup, photon, bull X and more should be eligible.
So maybe go check that out.
Of course, do I or and then privy raised $15 million in funding led by Rubik capital as
they aim to simplify security via crypto rails.
That was most of the news kind of rounding out rounding out AI memes and NFTs. The AI market cap did jump about 7%
on the day. Fart coin led mind share with a huge 20%
mind share percentage there after it hit $400 million
in a huge rally on Wednesday. Nearest co-founder, I thought
this was interesting, Ilya Polosukhin. He gave a speech at
Nvidia's GTC AI conference. I think he's the first web three
founder to speak at that Nvidia conference. And he talked about
using the cloud based approaches to miles and ages to solve
current state issues. Let's see. And memes and issues. BNB is
leading the way and meme coins folks, tut broccoli and banana
were the top meme movers across chains. Those are all on BNB
all up 40 to 60%
PBS was no big one on salon. It was up another 50% on the day, the 14 million. And then in
NFTs doodles announced they're going to release a white paper for their upcoming doodle token
launch. Taproot wizards shared their white list details confirmed. 1,750 wizards are
going to be on sale March 25th, 1 p.m. Eastern, 0.2 Bitcoin.
And then a blockbuster mega mutant deal.
Apparently, Adam Weitzman acquired four mega mutants on this close price.
What do you think?
In two million plus.
You're thinking two million.
I don't know that those things are so illiquid and that's such a huge chunk.
It's like the value of those is basically what he's going to pay for it.
It's kind of my read.
You got four of them, right?
Can you believe they were like two millipop three mill, four millipop?
What was it?
Oh, I'll have to go.
That would be interesting to go through the history on the,
I mean the, the, the serums were going for like 2000 East, right?
Thousand plus East.
Those were huge.
Uh, I'll try to pull it up. I could probably find it, but those theorems are going for an absurd amount of money back
then, if you recall. So that's, that's pretty wild.
I don't know how to navigate this new open sea the same way I used to.
We need to get used to it. I'm actually starting to learn how to navigate it properly.
I'm getting the hang of it.
They tagged me.
Everyone's like, no, you can actually switch to USE and crypto.
I didn't realize it was at the bottom right and small.
Also, you can switch back from pro to collector.
And I like the collector over the pro shit.
Like here, right now I was doing the box so i'm on it so like here like you have pro
That's like
I'm not in for like a bloomberg terminal type open sea. So I just go to collector
And then depending on my bias and the price of eath. I switch usd and and and eath depending on my mood
Serum so what what? It's like Mutant
Serum, I mean this shouldn't be a collection anymore because the Serum are done.
Mega Swap, like see last, if I go here and I pick all of them, we're like boomers man.
I also don't know how.
I remember the good old days of sweeping NFTs on OpenSea while hosting Twitter's bases and everybody was like front-running me and you had to go scroll all the way down because there was no such thing as Genie.
Remember Genie? Remember fucking? What's the other one? The other one that then was bought?
I don't know. I'm not sure I remember. Forget it. Anyways, I forget the history on those, but it was some crazy sales back then, man.
So last sale here for this one was 500 ETH, but I don't know what ETH was at. It was much higher
than this for sure. See, 500 ETH from Asherah and it sold when ETH was, let me tell you right now, more detail here.
Transaction fee, da da da, machi, 500 ETH. It was the last current price, I guess.
ETH, maybe ETH was 2K.
Honestly, ETH has been 2K for as long as I remember that.
No, it was 1628!
ETH price here. Yeah. So I don't know I
forget like chat do you guys know how much these Mega Mutants gorefire? I feel like I
used to post about them all the time like Farouk, Mega Mutant, I used to post all the
Mega Mutant. I used to like dude I used to do this before stats, before Tyler did it,
before all these guys came in, He's the post-press action.
I'm kidding.
The Megan mutants were a splashy.
I'm looking for it, man.
Like I'm, I can't figure it out.
I can just remember.
That's one of my best works.
Remember this tweet?
Dude, that was crazy.
The microverse, the Dyson tweet, that was dirty work.
I can't find it.
Honestly, I'm looking through some old tweets.
I really can't find it.
I just remember it was at least 1420.
You know, it was like some of those meme numbers, you know?
They were big.
I would have thought at least one of them went for three million bucks
But definitely at least a million I don't think you're misremembering here
Like I generally think let me see if people are like tagging me with answers here
I genuinely think that that's how much they were
They were going for but anyways point being
Your estimate two million dollar, that could add up.
I mean, Adam loves UGA Labs and Board API Club. He just bought a Top Hat Punk. He picked one up for the low, actually. That was a good deal.
He's the one who picked up my 101 bodago OTC not too long ago for about $10,000. And he just likes to support, man.
That guy's awesome.
He's like this like super rich guy in LA or Miami
and or I appreciate by coastal and successful man,
very successful man.
And he just really has a lot of belief in YugoLabs
and what BoardAPL Club is building.
What do you think?
Do you think that age is well?
Let's say it was 2 million.
Let's say it was 2 million.
Let's say it's like 2 to 3 million.
I think that board API club will stand the test of time.
I think it's a top 10 digital collectible.
I don't see a path to those specific mega mutant entities selling for hire.
But it only takes long. Like it would have a handful of collectors. I. But it only takes long.
Like it was handful of collectors.
I mean, it only takes one.
I mean, we're seeing that with the art space right now with canvas and others.
It only takes one.
So you're absolutely right.
So I'm looking for the last sales.
I can't find them.
Four years ago, it was 20, 3 e 350 sort of 50 e and 500 ease. There's the last five sales four years ago
When they last sell last some of those last sold I just can't find the serum page anymore because I'm pretty sure since you
Can't consume the serum anymore
They they might be delisted or something. you know what I mean? Yeah, could be. Yeah, so anyways, I definitely remember that these serums were going for the thousandth
plus, so curious to see how that goes, but good luck to Adam Weitzman and congratulations
here on that.
Did that move the floor price for any of the serums or sorry, the apes or anything at all,
you think?
No, it was a chop day for ETH NFTs.
Yeah, it's still choppy out there,
but you know what, they're holding good though.
Like I was looking at history for fun.
You know, you're still looking at $25,000 for an ape.
It's like 20K ish for a penguin.
Like it's collections of 10,000 NFTs
in a market where theorem is like not doing great.
Pongster is still selling nearly $100,000.
So if you think about the collectibles market, even though I remember I was talking about
the NBA cards or whatever yesterday, like Pokemon cards, etc.
It's I don't know.
I don't know if there's a chart that like overlays like Ethereum NFTs versus like Pokemon
and other collectibles.
But be curious to see that versus is NBA cards, um, watches,
I'm actually curious about that. You know what I mean?
Yeah. I'm going to see if I can pull that out. I mean, that's more than like the
entry level Rolex, right? 25,000.
Way more. I mean, you entry level rose, they're talking five G's secondary,
right? Secondary market you're talking, but even primary market,
let's say you're lucky and your ad gets you like a Submariner
No date or like a day just like you're looking at like eight
Something like that. I'd say eight or nine. I have no inflation prices that I don't know anymore
But like you like it. It's more than half of an eight
for an entry-level
Rolex here, so
You know and there's way more 10,000 of those so So, I think, I don't know, I think it's impressive to see those things hold up.
And I remember, man, yeah, those serums were for LJS.
Dude, I remember, like, we used to host Twitter spaces for people to, like, consume those serums.
And, like, remember at, like, APEFest, like, the gold one that revealed everything was to be like these total events. Anyways, that's some good momentum on
The NFT front Tyler, but we got some other big news to talk about today. So what else you got for us?
Yeah, and we could talk a little bit about FOMC. So pal came out. It was pretty interesting presser yesterday
So I did listen to it. I tuned in we were rallying into
FOMC they held rates the same. I think that was widely expected.
That was 99% chance outcome. But ultimately, markets did surge after. And it looks like
it's continuing here into this morning for the most part. I think a couple of the highlights
that stood out to me. He did talk about tariffs quite a bit. Most of the questions were about
tariffs. He said that could introduce some short-term volatility.
He expects it to be temporary, transitory.
He also said, I think one of the more important things
he said is that the Fed is pricing in full 100%
retaliatory tariffs in their projections.
So my interpretation of that is if there are any scenarios
here where tariffs kind of get backed off,
if they're not as extreme as we think
that they are going to be right now,
that will give them room to ease
because they're already projecting effectively the worst.
Because of that, they're lowering their projection
of US economy growth forecast down from 2.1% to 1.7%.
He did allude to the odds of a recession are higher
than they previously were, but he said still very unlikely. to 1.7%. He did elude the odds of a recession are higher than
they previously were, but he said still very unlikely. So my
interpretation of listening to him live talk through that is he
does not think a recession is coming. But he did acknowledge
that it does have a higher chance of happening than it did
a few months back. I would think it's really in line. Yeah, most
people think but was also kind of reassuring to hear. And then the
other piece was they are slowing the pace of offloading their securities in April. So slowing
Nice. The QT. So those were the highlights. And it seems like markets generally liked it, but now
kind of seems like we're all, we're all in a holding pattern here. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of
rallying now since we started talking. So yeah, let's keep talking. Keep talking. Yeah. Big ones up back to a 65. But now this could be people buying anticipation of whatever the hell this announcement is going to be in 15.
Ah, I would be careful here. But yes, I wouldn't long like at 86. But if you were long since 82, you also don't have to like cut it right away. You know what I mean?
If there's a lot of people that go 100x longer shorts right now.
There's a lot of people that go 100x longer shorts right now.
Well, that's the problem is people long like now when like literally 24 hours ago was 80, you know what I mean?
So I bought a bunch of Solana yesterday morning before the show and like 128, 6, whatever.
Obviously I missed the bottom 125 ish, but like not selling it here.
But I'm also not like I was telling you yesterday
I was like I'm also gonna sell it as fast as I bought it
If I don't feel like it you know I mean like if the vibes are off like this salon
I was leaving my wallet the second. Yeah, I mean the only position
I've actually held to this downturn is all the Sonic I I added on spot
And I'm just holding because there's passive points and there's a promise of something and they're building a bunch of stuff
But the rest like I've just been in and out of coins. But this is looking good.
Like honestly, Tyler looks like we have a new range here.
Right. It's really like the new range is a bit lower than before,
but it's between that 76 ish to that like 90, 91 K range.
Right. And we're just chopping between that.
So let's see if we break out of it.
But I don't know. Let's see.
You know, I like to be a bull.
You know, I don't like to be a bear.
Arthur Hayes, I know he sometimes I give him a little shit for some of the calls,
but he has called the last Pico top pretty well.
He's actually liking what he's seeing right now.
You know, he was very adamant of calling 73K and he got a 75K.
So he got pretty close. He says J-Pow delivered QT basically
over April 1st and a lot of my friends were like TratFi were talking about this QT and QE right.
The next thing we need to get pulled up for reals is either SLR exemption or restart of QE. Was
Bitcoin 77k the bottom? Probably but songs probably have more pain left a pain left to fully convert jay
to team trump to stay nymph so stay nimble and cashed up so i like this right stay nimble and
cashed up i feel like that's kind of where we're at i'm struggling a little bit because i still
feel like the the retort from besant is that this is going to be a multi-month correction like we're
in for more pay but stopped right here haven even started, but on the flip side, everything, I feel like a
lot of that might already be priced in.
Like we sold off so hard, so fast.
And now like there are a lot of big bulls out there.
Like Kobe just bought a huge eat position as I understand, as we think.
Again, I think.
Confirmed.
Or a girlfriend.
You didn't confirm that either.
But he's not the only one, right?
There's a lot of other folks who have been starting to make more public long calls.
Yeah, and he's also a little bold up.
So like Mando's telling us not to check prices till July.
I'm still going to get bold up on all the pubs.
Is that why he's not showing up anymore?
Everybody tag Mando and shame him at wreck Mando.
I want to, I want to see tags on the Twitter spaces at the bottom.
I want everybody to tag wreck Mando, just tag, pull up motherfucker.
Um, anyways, another good time for BTC.
Again, that's another Arthur Hayes post.
My custom us bank credits supply index is trending higher.
Doesn't mean we are done dumping,
but the other shifting more bullish.
So I think like, not that I understand this,
I'm not gonna act like I understand what he just said,
but balls tingling.
You know, like that tingling spring feeling,
I've been saying spring is nice, spring is renewal.
So overall Tyler, you know, it's like we're seeing somewhat
of a better sentiment. Cautiously optimistic. Cautiously optimistic. Where's our fear and
greed? Where's our favorite index at? Let's see. Like we're never going to get 10 again. That's
what I'm trying to say. Is there fear and greed? And by never I don't mean like in over 10 years. I mean in the next year, like in 2025, right?
Wow, back to 50?
But see dude, like, fine.
That's what I'm saying.
Like people are neutral.
Cautiously optimistic is literally 49.
That's accurate, right?
It feels right.
It feels right.
It feels like what you and I talked, like the way I'm feeling and the way you're feeling right now from
What I'm picking up on like 49 feels accurate
People are buying I don't like other than like I mean I guess I just said some people clearly are like like Kobe
Like Arthur is starting to get bullish apparently at that's fucking all these tuitions are buying. Yeah
Yeah, they are
Yeah, I'm fine. Someone said wait. What was 31 last time I checked? I mean, yeah, brother yesterday was 32
Okay, so that is a huge job like that's got kind of hard to justify
But if you do the average of the week, it's in the 40s though
Cuz look at that 45 47 last month 45 last week 40th
So that's 32 though like that 10 that one day on the Friday when we came on the show and was at 10
That was like that was probably your
pico-schmico
Rock hard solid bottom signal, you know what I mean?
Like how much you know if everyone's going for 70 73 K and you're at 75 K
I mean how much more greedy can you get you know, like Greek goes both ways, right?
Everyone's most bearish at the bottom.
And everybody buys Bitcoin and the price that deserve it.
Or, or, or the other coin.
I wish I had to want to talk about that one, Tyler, but our, our, our
pleas here is, uh, you know, if you squint really hard, you can see the
please holders lining up at the Golden Gate Bridge.
I don't know if it's still trading as Bitcoin, Bait or not.
I think the memes just losing some steam, but it's that famous like $50 million
line again on meme coins, right?
It's, it never fails.
You either break it and then you go straight to like one and one 50.
Are you just, it's like a mental thing.
Anyways, Tyler, what else?
Oh, there's a oh, we have breaking news.
There's a rumor on the Trump stuff.
Is there a rumor?
I was looking for 38 seconds ago.
Intel now obviously thread lightly here.
The major update is rumored to be that Trump will announce a zero tax
on crypto catapult gains at the summit today.
So that would that is the cow would be big. announced a zero tax on crypto catapult games at the summit today.
So that would, that is the cow would be big.
That's the caliber of announcement that I was expecting, but I'm going to like the market.
I feel like Bitcoin should be higher.
Like, hold on 30 seconds ago.
This post just came out.
I just caught it.
I mean, it's all Intel.
Just put it, put the
one second try and see if it reacts if you want. There you go. Oh, no. Yeah. I don't
know. I hear it. Let's leave the one second chart on here while Trump speaks if you want.
The reason maybe it's not moving more is that this is a key. This would still have to pass
through Congress. Of course. So like, it's a headline.
It would be something that would likely be, you know, three months.
I wouldn't get pulled up without being sure.
That's a big one.
If that comes through, I think it becomes, it makes Bitcoin a very, very investable asset.
And it makes America even more interesting for outside investors
mmm, and then it makes the rat the race to
To like I don't know just this race acquiring more Bitcoin gets pretty
Gets pretty pretty wild anyways. Wow. I'm curious. When are you speaking in supposed to be in seven minutes? Okay, cool
So we'll monitor live as well
as we get Luca and, and Scalera on the show. What else you got for us, Tyler?
The other Trump news from yesterday. Oh yeah. Trump media execs. So this is not exactly,
I don't know that the inner workings of the Trump media team, the names that I saw in
this announcement are not Trump family members. So this is a little
bit disparate, but still, you know, portfolio of companies, they are reportedly launching a crypto
spec, 179 million, they're looking to raise to invest in American crypto and blockchain companies.
I didn't have a chance to go super deep into this one, but that's the headline.
I think it's already kind of coming out to mixed reactions or perhaps more negative
reactions, just getting a little bit.
I shared this on the exposed.
It feels like maybe like the Trump family getting too deep into personal crypto
investments is like kind of muddying the waters here.
I think we're all, I think most of us, I don't want to speak for everyone, I think most of crypto Twitter is objectively pretty happy
with the crypto policies put forth by the American government the last few months.
They're thoughtful, reasonable, logical, but it gets a little messier when like personal investments
are mixed in with all this, right?
Like we applauded David Sacks for divesting all of his crypto as the right.
But then Trump sons are leading World Liberty.
Fi now the Trump media is launching a crypto spec.
So it just makes the situation a little messier.
Well, we'll see what that takes us. It's a different team, right? Trump Media.
It's a whole other. It's Trump Media.
Is that the arm that owns
True Social?
Is that tied to social and Trump Media?
I don't know the answer to that.
So I've got a little bit more details.
So they're calling it Renanis Tactical Acquisition Corp.
And it's about what they're buying.
It's going to be incorporated in the Cayman Islands, plans, complete acquisition through
IPO and private placement.
It's a beautiful day in the Cayman Islands.
Alexander Cano.
Are the CEO chair and CEO.
All right, we'll see how did that did that impact their stock?
Because I know they've got a stock to write on.
I wonder it was down a little bit today.
Point 97%.
And then down a percent.
It's like it's spiked up and then.
All right.
It is volatile.
I mean, the whole market is even Bitcoin right now is like the wicks are crazy.
So let's see.
I'm really curious about this talk.
I mean, look at the end of day, like
you do have a present talking about a crypto conference, right? So it's a big deal. Now, of course, you can't really make the call on this tax stuff without Congress, but at the end of the
day, we'll see what happens in that phone. All right, Tyler, you're the rationale behind it.
Cause it's an interesting headline.
It was one that was a little harder for me to, to like come up with the
justification. So I'm curious if we'll get that first.
I'm curious if this is the announcement and uh, how they'll justify it.
So we may very well find out here.
I hate when the announcement or like something of it leaks before it's like,
yo, let the guy fucking make it the announcement, you know
Yeah, these people run wild with it without all the details
Yeah, like it's already happening, right?
But it's just like you know, just tell us anyway today's code
rafflebot.xyz
rafflebot.xyz
Let me fuck around I have a punk. I have a penguin for 10% and one for 6. I'm a punk. I have a, a penguin for 10% and one for six.
I'm going to remove it. I'm going to make one penguin for 15%. Whoa, it worked. Well,
can I make it 16? Let's get greedy. Oh, there's now a 16% chance to win a top hat penguin. 16 Tyler. I've never had, I've never made odds that high.
One six. 16% chances that one of you listeners today is going to win a Pudgy Penguin. That's
a lot. I've never had these so high. I'm excited already for the thing.
So we still have a couple of minutes before, before I guess, uh, join us Tyler.
So what's blast stuff? I'm curious. Cause you know, blast is still building. I mean,
I know they've caught a lot of slack here and there, but Hey, like that's the team that's
building in the mobile scene. And we know that crypto needs to go mobile more and more because
that's the one thing that we're missing the most. So what was the news that I'm curious.
Yeah. It was like they're launching an app store. Well, that's what they're calling it.
So basically, I think they got a little bit of criticism right
when they launched their app.
They had like the four buttons.
Now there's more buttons and like they're leaning into it.
They said that more buttons are coming.
So right now only select wallets are able to engage with this app store.
But effectively, like you're in the you've got your blast up up.
You can set your apps that you want to use kind of on your home page
and launch them from there, which is nice UI.
And one of the things I've praised abstract for is they're very clean UI.
And I think blast doing their own thing in their own way here.
I was very surprised that fancy top was not in their initial screenshot.
Wait, this is true.
Maybe it's cause he got this one thing on him. By the way, I'm so sorry.
Y'all I keep rugging the space. Like I didn't say the code.
The code is G myriad. So I said that we have 16% chance of winning a penguin
I didn't give you guys the code G myriad G myriad
G myriad is the code today rafflebot.xyz there's 16% chance that
That you're going to win a penguin. What up, Mando?
Hello, how are you? Are we bullish?
Honestly, I haven't really had the time to look at stuff.
I know you're busy.
It seems like 86k. Wow, yeah.
We're not bad. We're not bad. We're not bad. We're looking okay. What did you think, SJF of Powell?
Did you have time to listen to him?
I did. I thought he was quite hawkish, if I'm honest. I was surprised. He said,
look, we think inflation's going back up. We don't need to cut rates quicker.
He was objectively more hawkish than I think markets were hoping, right?
more hawkish than I think markets were hoping, right?
But we had a rally, so all good.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see, Trump is set to speak now.
So he's gonna get on stage at DAS and-
What do we think that is?
Well, there's a rumor that just came out from Intel,
classic, like saying that it's about to,
0% tax on Bitcoin.
But again, even if he were to talk about that, it has to go through Congress.
So that's all we know.
That was fresh off the press like five minutes ago.
Yeah, that would have to go through Congress.
Maybe they do that.
Maybe they do that.
Or maybe they do tax and sort of tax benefits to crypto, US crypto companies.
Yeah, major, it was just a rumor to be that Trump will announce zero tax on crypto capital gains.
But again, we really have to. I love how all this originally, remember, base carbon made a fake tweet
that went viral, like millions and millions of views and all the media started picking up on the zero tax on crypto.
But that was before Trump was president.
And then the whole thing was so funny. So anyway, so let's see that. Yeah, uh, speaking of the blasting Tyler, some people seem unhappy here. Shaft of them and blast would be a
gold chain without finding stuff. I don't know. I haven't followed much, but, um, but I do think
finding stuff technically should have been on there. I don't know. Let me get Luca up on the stage. I see Skyler and
Early Let's say I'm sorry fuck. I'm so sorry. I didn't apologize scarley
Scarley, I like that. It's fucking chat name. I love it. Uh, let me get scarley
I see scarley in the studio, but I don't see your camera on it's carly on or off camera. I just want to make sure
Is carly on do I see scarley On or off camera, I just want to make sure.
Is Carly on? Do I see Carly?
What's up, Luca?
Hey, how you doing?
Yeah, I'm doing good. How are you doing?
Good, good. How are you feeling, man?
How you feel about the market and everything right now?
I'm feeling...
I'm feeling pretty good.
How are you feeling? I'm feeling great. I'm always feeling great. How are you feeling?
I'm feeling great.
I'm always feeling great.
I mean, we're building, right?
It's a builder's market.
So we're always vibing and things are popping up from Marriott.
Things seem to be popping off on abstract.
So I'm liking how everything is running through that.
How are the USDC bets going? They're going great right now
We're what we cross six hundred thousand plus in volume and that's still with like really little amount of markets up a little bit
Less than I wish we had but we're gonna we're gonna push this a little harder
In the coming in the coming days and weeks and then we are about to hit ten thousand USDC traders
So that's the metric that I like a lot more than the volume,
because the volume is whatever, it's good.
But we're at 9,400 traders.
And sign-ups overall, we must have crossed half a million.
So we're definitely seeing some stuff.
And we've made about $77 in fees.
So very happy about that.
Amen, I love that.
And I was talking to somebody about you guys,
I think, a couple of days ago. I think that. I was talking to somebody about you guys, I think a couple days ago.
I think there's like a huge opportunity to like really control like the crypto Twitter
prediction market because like because I think like a lot of your guys's markets are like
culturally relevant. Yeah. I think a lot of these markets don't have like a finger on
the pulse in terms of culture so triple down there I think
that's that's one of your guys's big edge cases amongst a couple others but
one I like that when he said that 100% I totally agree with that what up
scarlet I see you on spaces you want me to bring you up on the video
scarlet what up can you hear me yeah I can hear you guys can you hear me? Scarlett, what up? Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you guys. Can you hear me?
There you are! What's up, Scarlett? How are you doing?
Oh, good, thanks. Thanks for having me on.
Dude, thank you for coming.
Listen, I don't know what you're up to over there,
but I know half my friends
angel'd in your shit and the other half
were playing on Chain Heroes.
You know, I saw Barad and C-Phrase and all those folks are in.
Then on the other side, you know, Sam's our producer in VP Media and Tyler just can't
stop talking about you and the FOMO hour group chat. So you're obviously up to something
really good here with On Chain Heroes. So congratulations, first and foremost.
Second of all, Scarlett, why don't we let you introduce yourself
and tell us what you're building for the people
that may not be familiar with On-Chain Heroes.
Absolutely.
So I'm standing the founder of On-Chain Heroes,
which is a fully on-chain RPG on abstract.
So the TLDR is that we stripped away,
we're trying to build a studio-only RPG,
but stripping away everything that is grindy, that is time
consuming, and really optimizing for a niche of people
that enjoy these high-risk, high-reward type games that
often do not have a lot of time to enjoy these.
And we're also acutely aware that the average D-Gen
doesn't like too much reading or too much whatever.
So we're really going for like a simple stripping away everything else,
just leaving the essential elements of an RPG.
And yeah, we partnered with Abstract to launch and you know, we got really lucky. We found a lot of success
and yeah, that's the TLDR.
I love that. How's your experience been with Abstract so far? Because you know,
the people love to hate on the stuff that's working. My personal experience,
our personal experience over at Marriott is that we love it. But you got Luca on stage.
So I want you to tell us what's your experience been so far, but on abstract.
I see, I see there's a lot of stuff going on there on the gaming side.
Uh, our experience has been amazing.
So, uh, I joined abstracts builder and residence program.
And what that means is we get a lot of support.
We get a technical support and marketing support.
One of the big reasons that we chose Abstract
was we were aware that we,
like our weak point was distribution.
And we knew that Luke and Abstract, they would be,
you know, they were the kings at this, right?
So we knew that we could build a good game.
We just needed to get it out into the hands of people. Um,
so overall, like a really great experience.
It's great to hear. I'm curious. So you had a lot of success.
Frog mentioned that I covered it fairly extensively.
What went right? Like,
right. Reflecting on the last couple of months.
Absolutely. So, uh, I think the biggest thing is that, so my background is in Wolf Game.
So I was the lead dev at Wolf Game for like two and a half years, which was like a big
Yeah, huge.
Which was big at the time, you know, they're still cooking stuff. But the TLDR is that I've been with the community,
like I'm literally just building a game that I would want to play. And it really resonated with
our little niche of crypto Twitter, right? So day one, we had massive support from people that
have known me for the last three years. You know, I'm, I'm not a tourist. I've been in the trenches.
I've been losing money on the same things as these guys. So, uh, that,
I think they're a really big part of our success.
Nice. You love to hear that. I'm curious. I was chatting with Sims. Uh,
he said that you were a warcraft fan.
I'm curious if you had drew any inspiration for more
craft or any other areas
Absolutely. So yeah. Yeah, so, you know, I was a big wild player
I unfortunately don't have time to play these days just cuz it's just cuz work, right? Um, I hope you don't have time to play these days
Yeah, yeah, probably what my folders want to hear.
Probably what my folders want to hear
But yeah, we're drawing, like to me, right, RPGs and like idle games are largely a solved problem.
I don't think that we need to try and reinvent the wheel too much, but rather
buy things in the context of crypto where they make sense.
For example, like we're dealing with real value, so everything
needs to be on chain and needs to be trustless and needs to be verifiable. Like interoperability,
you know, not something that we're super focused on, but rather the entire ownership and really
leaning into the speculative nature of crypto. So basically the TLDR is that we take a lot of
So basically the TLDR is that we take a lot of inspiration and concepts from proven successful
models and just apply them in the context of crypto.
And I think that's why we were able to find some success.
Yeah, clearly the market has responded.
I'm curious, we've talked about your success.
Any lessons learned from the last month from season one that you're thinking about applying
to season two in the future.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So, uh, I think, I think out of learnings, the biggest
learning that I, uh, that I had that, um, was that people really, really want to
have, uh, like when we think about idle RPGs,
a lot of people think about just like...
like move game, you know, for example, V1,
where it was just staking or unstaking,
that was the only decisions that you had.
But our game is built on top of that,
and we have like various trainers that you can train with
that affect your outcome in a meaningful manner.
People really love this.
So it's a combination of decision making, risk and RNG.
So we're going to lean heavily into this and continue giving players
a way to like meaningfully affect their progress in the game.
So not just, you know, staking, unstaking and like typical, like,
quote unquote, Ponzi games, but have more depth, have more decision making and
have more interesting on chain game mechanics. Yeah. I think that makes a ton of sense. And
I think one of the things I don't know if it should have surprised me, but it did basically
like every group chat I was in had people playing on chain heroes. And this is kind
of across a lot of different cohorts of people,
builders, folks who are deep in the meme coin trenches, just like a NFT traders,
like a huge variety of people were playing this one. I am curious. I'm sure folks are listening
right now. What's coming next? Is there anything you can share about like what the future looks like?
It feels like we're kind of a holding period right now, kind of waiting for some of the next news to come out.
Absolutely. Yeah. So right now we're in an off season, but we have some really interesting activations coming up.
We know we mentioned World of Warcraft in the beginning, right? So the lore of launching
heroes right now is that our world is going to be under attack by a world boss soon, and all of the
heroes will need to come together and fight this. Right now, the game started off very PvE in the
sense that rewards were just distributed from the game protocol.
I'm super aware that this is not sustainable forever.
So we're transitioning into a faction-based PvP type game where you guys are going to have to,
where players are going to have to fight against each other in like a bloodthirsty on-chain warfare game.
Season one was just the introduction of, you
know, it was just, just to launch, right? Just to launch, get our tokens out there and
make a big splash, which we've successfully done. And now we've had the foundation to
build out the next phase of the game, which is coming soon.
Well, I'm sure a lot of folks are excited for that. I've been very impressed with how
the tokens have been holding up on the secondary markets during this kind of low period. Yeah. Quickly folks to move on
and opportunity costs. So clearly a lot of folks are ready and willingly waiting for season two.
Well, congrats on a lot of success for season one. We're going to be excited to see it. You know,
I'd love to kind of bring it back to you and kind of a similar line of questions,
but I think we just closed abstract month one. What was it last week? I'm curious for your
thoughts and perspective on how it went and how you're maybe thinking about month two.
Yeah. So I think from our side, I think we're really going to try to lean into
a couple of really awesome social elements. And I think we're kind of on the brink of really doing what I think is probably
the most exciting part for us, which is how do we really bring new people in?
I think right now portal.abs.xyz I think is the best zero to one onboarding in
crypto. I think it is the best verticalized experience in crypto.
And I think it has one of the best ecosystems.
And I think one of the reasons why we decided to consolidate it into like this
one singular platform was in part for a lot of reasons,
but I think one of the main reasons why we built abstract the way that we did
was that I always wanted one central destination to kind of push marketing to
meaning it's really easy for me to get millions of people
to go to one singular site,
but it's really hard for me to like market
nine different apps at the same time.
And in this situation, you know,
now that I think the platform is kind of at a place
where I think it's almost ready, you know,
once we tie in these social features,
which I think will be out in the next two weeks,
I think we'll be at a place where I can sell to the outside world, you
know, this, this new iteration of, uh, of fun and social on the internet and
then bringing them into this kind of top of funnel and then them kind of meandering
and maneuvering around to all the different apps, whether it's on-chain
heroes or myriad or gotcha or whatever,
whatever the app is.
I think the beauty of our platform is I don't need to market 10 different
things. I need to market one central destination, which ultimately then,
you know, lifts everybody else up. So I'm excited for that.
And I think we're finally on the verge of actually doing that.
And I'm, and I'm really excited for what I think the next couple of months look like.
But, you know, first month there were some bumps in the road.
Today, I really believe that I think our ecosystem and what we've built, I think
is just completely different than what I think we've seen from previous block
chains and where they've been going and what they've been building in terms of
how they've been building it.
And I'm really excited to kind of scale it into,
you know, scale it up here in the next couple of months.
And I will also say,
I was hoping it would be announced on this space
because I thought it was pretty cool
because Farouk and I had done,
kind of alluded to this at NFT Paris.
I can't say exactly what it is.
Come on. Yeah, it should be live in the next 15, 20 minutes.
There's a, there's a really big moment I think for, for Pudgey Penguins in the, in our ecosystem
here coming in the next 20, 25 minutes from an institutional perspective.
Are you waiting for DOS?
Is that where it's being announced?
No, no, no.
I, I, I, no, no.
That was a good idea in hindsight. But it just turned out that today was the day that I think
some of this stuff got filed.
So you'll see it.
And you'll see it.
I told you, I asked.
Go ahead, sorry.
No, you'll see here in a couple of minutes.
I don't even want to talk about it until it's public.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So in Paris, there's a viral clip of me and Luca on stage where I asked Luca a question
whatever Pudgy like what's going on.
And he was like something like institution something something Pudgy Penguin NFTs.
And then we talked about this guys, the us three.
And then we almost opened a market for it on Myriad.
My call remains, I mean, look, you don't have to unmute. I don't want to fuck your shit up
But yeah, my call was like this is gonna be a filing for an NFT ETF
So that's just pudgy related, but you're seeing penguin. I know you're close with Venak and bitwise
ETF NFTs, um fuck we have to wait 15, 20 minutes.
It's brutal. He's going to make us wait. But I am, that was one of my questions, Luke.
I am curious. How has it been kind of balancing like the pudgy eco with the abstract eco?
And like, there's this a lot, I'm sure you're juggling a lot of balls. How's that aspect
been? Yeah, I think it hasn't been as hard as I thought it would be.
Because like, they're almost like autonomous trains to a
certain, at least Pudgy Penguins is supposed to know. At least
from from that perspective, or sorry, I just got a text message.
Yeah, sorry. No, but I think it's not that difficult.
I thought maybe it would be difficult, but it's not that difficult.
I think from our perspective, or from my perspective, the Pudgy Penguin stuff is
really autonomous. I mean, there's like 65 full-time people there just marching in one direction. I think from the other side,
there's a, you know, the abstract stuff, I think probably takes a little bit more of my time,
just because it's a little bit more in its infancy. But I also think from an engineering
and from a team perspective, abstract has like, I think one of the best teams I've ever worked with or gotten to know.
So I think we're on a pretty good free flowing, you know, kind of cadence right now that I
think we're all kind of comfortable with.
Maybe in the beginning, it was a little bit tough when you were kind of like critically
thinking on everything.
But now that you know where both products are going, it's really just about hard work
and marching in one direction.
Well, that's good to hear.
I'm curious.
A lot of balls in the air.
What are you most focused on?
Like what's the number one thing that's on your mind when you're waking up on Thursday,
March 20th?
I think right now everything to me is really straightforward.
I think there's one critical problem that I'm looking to solve on the abstract side
that I think has taken a lot of my time, which is how do you really get the on-chain activity
And then the problem there is a little bit harder than I think people think on its face.
So I'm spending a lot of my time, I think, really kind of addressing what I think people think on its face. So I'm spending a lot of my time, I think really kind of addressing what I think
the biggest problems in our ecosystem are.
And that's probably the first one.
Um, so most of my day, at least in the short term has consist of, um, most of my
day in the short term consists of solving for that problem.
Um, and then as kind of problems arise, I kind of pivot into different ones.
I love that.
I love that.
Well, good luck with everything, Luca.
I can't wait for this announcement.
Uh, look, we're Trump is set to speak in two minutes.
I think he's a little behind, but it's these two minutes.
So we're actually going to stay on a little bit, um, and, and see what Trump's up to.
And hopefully Luca Lucas announcement also
also also comes in you know at the same time we may get that and we have a loot box spin
Luca today a lucky winner is gonna have 16% chances to win a pudgy penguin on show how's
that for us it's not bad oh oh we're now in the roulette now. We're playing we play
we do these loot box spins four days a week and
And we pick a winner, you know Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday for someone to win So so we always we can know you know what we should run the the giveaway right now
We have Luca Sims and then stay on a little bit to see what what Trump is gonna talk about. How's that?
Let's pick a winner. So every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday raffle bought the XYZ
We give a quote on the show the show code today was G Marriott. So let's see while we have Luca
Let's see if we can hit a penguin What have we got today?
Oh, look at this! Look who it is!
Kholak Kiril!
He's been driving for a minute!
Alright, let's see!
Alright Kholak, you gotta get your ass on stage this time!
You gotta get your ass on stage this time!
I saw him the last few days.
There he is!
There he is!
Talk about...
Talk about second chances.
When I was away, this guy won and he wasn't live with us or something happened.
And he's been...
Yes, yes, I'm here.
And he's been requesting to speak every day since Tyler every day and
here you go Kola what's up man oh my god I'm so he's excited we love to hear it alright
crypto survivor I love your buy alright Kola are youac, are you ready? I'm ready. Oh my God.
He got, you know, last time he couldn't make it on stage
so he didn't win.
This time you're here.
So look, you're either gonna win a Pudgy or a red guy,
but there's 16% chances that you win a Pudgy penguin.
That's right, it's a top hat penguin.
All right, are we ready to spin?
Let's go. Let's go.
Well, you win, our red guy.
Congratulations, Kolak.
Wow, that's a nice red guy.
It was $1,000 on the shirt today.
Congratulations, Kolak.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Fomar.
Ha ha ha, damn, fucking right.
You did it, man.
Congratulations, man. Congratulations. I love it, man. Congratulations, man.
Congratulations.
I love to see that.
There you go.
So we'll get to your penguin sent to you today.
That's for sure.
Well, I guess I'll keep the penguin in there for the next one.
Markets is selling off.
What is Donald Trump saying?
Is he live?
Let's see.
When's that announcement, Luca?
When's that announcement coming out?
I don't know, but I'll hand it off back to you. We got to change topics.
I love that. I love that. Is it? Not right now. Not right now. Not right now. Let's see. Let's see.
Is Donald Trump live yet? No, he's not. I'm waiting for this.
He said something about landmark stable coin and market structure bills.
They shouldn't include simple common sense rules.
So it seems like he's talking about stable coins.
But where?
And box works.
Yeah. I don't know.
I'm not in a stream, but people are tweeting live like they are listening to him.
Okay. The Intel page.
Trump calls upon Congress to pass stable call legislation.
Trump says the US will dominate crypto in the next generation of financial
technologies.
You know, a few years ago, this would send the market flying.
It's like, I mean, you just started to write.
I wonder where I can find it because I'm on the block works stream.
Let's see.
And that's not somebody else speaking on the main stage.
This is life.
Is it over? I'll speak on the main stage. This is life.
Is it over?
I'm trying to get,
trying to get some answers here.
That was the whole announcement. That was a little lame.
It can be,
uh, some, see, that's why I hate those rumor
males thingies because then they come up with the rumor and they fuck it up for everyone. Uh, let me see. Hold on. Hold on.
Do we blame Eleanor for this? Then she's the one who started this.
That was the Intel. That was not even Eleanor this time. We like Eleanor. Hey,
I do too. I'm joking. This is telling you, I think she was the one who kind of
broke the news that gives address a block works does calls upon Congress
Zansky like everyone's I'm getting the same now. He's not speaking
I don't think is someone there boots on the ground
Or maybe he's not speaking, I don't know.
Well, well, what's up?
Goblin town.
No, I'm kidding.
You know what's going to save the markets?
Whatever Lucas cooking right now.
He's still on stage here and he wants me to change the topic.
It's coming soon, folks.
Okay, hold on.
Blockworks is tweeting live. Oh, hold on. Blockworks is tweeting live.
Oh, the complete.
Oh, it's finished.
It was a one minute address.
That's not great.
So we're not getting it's already done.
It was already done in the news was the stable coin.
Oh, yeah, he spoke for like five seconds.
Oh, that's it.
Trump calls lawless operation checkpoint 2.0 a form of lawfare through government weaponization that went beyond regulation.
He did say they will dominate crypto, but he has been saying this for a minute. I mean, he's been saying this side of you to him.
That's it.
I mean, we always build everything up here is what we do
But I think it's still it's a positive he dials in for crypto conference. I would have hoped for a little bit more
Than that so this is kind of like a nothing nothing burger announcement them
Yeah, it seems like was this a little overhyped? He didn't even speak.
What did he say?
What did he end up saying?
That's the same question, Luca.
I'm asking the same question right now.
Because that's what's playing it up like he's going to address.
And it seems like he sent it like a two minute video, bro.
I'm looking for it right now.
Saying buy some on-chain heroes. Yeah, he may have saying buy some on-chain heroes. Yeah he may have said buy some on-chain
heroes. Scarley's like fucking dancing right now in the studio. The market didn't really
sell off too much because it's still 85.7 though. Yeah nothing bad happened it was just
like if you thought he was gonna come out and maybe I didn't buy it the reason I didn't
buy the crypto tax. Oh we have it it. We have it. We have it.
I have the address. It was a two minute.
It was a two minute long address.
Here it is.
All right, just play it.
Tyler, can you hear?
No, but the spaces can, so I'll just. Okay. th Okay. and I think that's a great question. But let's make this a success.
Innovation is a part of what I do.
And I think that's a lot to be proud of.
And I'm honored to be here.
But they need to be given a chance.
My views, like you, will be of a good, full-bar bank.
But the state of private banking is a guarantee
that our American consumers have been used well enough. the Let's go.
Good old USA.
All right.
Sorry for the people who can't hear on on stream but the spaces could hear so that was the important part so basically
This was overhyped as if he's speaking first of all. He was not speaking there classic
first of all, so
Sorry to every participant and then second of, it was a 2 minute and 41 second video, which is great.
By the way, I think this is bullish because the president of America is taking time to make a video again.
Again, every time he has to speak or crypto, he speaks.
So this is bullish.
But in this Intel page, I mean, what the fuck are you going on about posting this way off?
The price action didn't match that rumor.
Yeah. But you know what? 85, eight dude, barely sell off.
This is great.
I don't, we can't just be rooting for Trump to make huge announcements to try
and get the markets around the other things.
So I think he basically just kind of reconfirmed everything you already said.
Correct. Just kind of just the executive order.
It's like a press tour for crypto. I mean, DAS is a massive,
he knows his audience, right? Like he knows, like, it's in New
York. Every single massive institution that is either in crypto
or looking to be in crypto in the USA is there. It's arguably
the largest conference of the year on American soil when it comes
to institutions because
consensus moves. Remember Toronto and Hong Kong. So he addresses it. So for me, the way I read
this, Tyler, I think you feel similar to me. This is bullshit speaking there, by the way, we're back
at 86k. Nice. So yeah, only the people who went 100x long on the crypto tax rumor are wrecked here. So everyone else is going to be just fine. I
think the every time he says that he wants to make America the MSP to Bitcoin, super
power and crypto capital of the world. I mean, I like to hear that as an American. I like
that he wants people to build crypto companies in the US saying the passion of the
crypto community is the kind of spirit that builds our country. I like to, I'm a guy who likes
affirmation. So I do appreciate that. And I think people who get doom and gloom and depressed from
reading crypto Twitter all day, dude, you know, they need to hear things like this sometimes
you know, they need to hear things like this sometimes as well. So no major news, but continued,
you know, positive rhetoric. It's a good outcome. Yeah. Yeah. He did announce the the
pudgy ETF though. So we're still waiting. We're waiting for that. It's been 20 minutes, Luca.
I didn't say that's what it was.
For Rogue, maybe we can run this tomorrow.
Yes, let's run it.
Okay, you know what? We'll hold you up to that.
Let's hold that tomorrow.
I think that was very positive.
Luca, thank you as usual for showing up
and supporting us.
Shout out to abstract fucking love abstract
I'm glad we're building on there. We love it scarley. Thank you so much for today. What you're building is awesome
I know that because my team is hooked up on it and they like gaming and they're picky
So that means you're building something good scarley congratulations with your success with on training heroes Tyler
I will see you tomorrow and the rest of y'all 10 a Eastern Standard Time for the episode of Formo Hour on Rock Radio.
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