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MAX IMPACT EP 100 & 101 ReFi Innovations & DeFi NFTs🎊BIG NFT GIVEAWAY
Recorded: Sept. 15, 2022 Duration: 3:04:43Space Recording
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What up, D-Gens, Re-Gens, and Tree-Gens?
It's about to go down, fam.
It's the 100th episode.
I'm so freaking stoked.
Jerry, my brother from another mutter, great to see you in the space.
Thank you for all the retweets.
Nathan always coming through with the retweets.
My brother from another mutter.
FOMO heads in the building sending you the co-host request because you're a legend.
And we got RVT already in the building.
Much love to all you peeps.
Much love indeed.
Okay, so slight technical hiccup with the high-quality music.
My main man, Dennis, is testing that right now in the Four Trees space.
And he's going to come through later with the high-quality tunage.
But for now, we're going to make do.
We're still going to have a great time.
And I promise you the high-quality tunage is on the way.
In fact, we had the high-quality music working earlier today during our test.
And then right before the space, technical difficulties.
But it will be solved.
Every single challenge has a solution.
We focus on the three.
Let's go, Eucalyptus!
Let me see some emoji dances.
To the beat, to the beat.
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My peeps are all here
So good to see you
Breezy
Keepin' it breezy
We got Stereo in the building
We got the Civic Monk
Hey y'all
We got Arena
Some of the OGs are here
This is so heartwarming
Seeing some of my favorite people
Uniting in the spaces
Friends
Have you heard the news?
Have you heard that it is the 100th episode
Of the Max Impact Show today
That's right
We're gonna be giving out
Hella NFTs
Hella hella NFTs
I'm gonna be Oprah Winfrey today
You get an NFT
You get an NFT
And these aren't just any
Joe Schmo NFTs
Okay
These are innovative NFTs
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Dynamic NFTs
That visually change
As the
You know what
You'll find out
You'll find out
You get to influence how they change
And you also get whitelist
Allow list
To all of my future projects
When you get this NFT
And I'm about to go Oprah Winfrey on you
But first
But first
Let's get this space warmed up
Make sure you've retweeted those three pinned graphics
To support the space
Let me hear your excitement in the chat bottom right
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We don't do this, but I think I'm going to need a little help from the horn section.
Is that all right?
Yeah.
It's a little something like this.
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all right regens and tree gens i know that sound quality is not a hundo p but we are still doing
some tests in the background so by the time we're done with our episode 101 we should be able to
come in here and have a proper space dance party with our emojis but uh what we wait for the four
trees to come through let's uh let's let's get in the celebration mood shall we
hey it's 100 baby let's go
We're going to celebrate our party with you.
Come on now, celebration, let's all celebrate and have a good time, celebration, we're gonna celebrate and have a good time, it's time to come together, it's up to you, what's your pleasure, everyone around the world, come on!
It's a celebration, celebrate and have a good time, it's a celebration, celebrate and have a good time, let's celebrate.
Party going on right here, a dedication to life throughout the year, so bring your good time and your laughter too, we're gonna celebrate and party with you, come on now, celebration, let's all celebrate and have a good time, it's a celebration,
good time, it's time to come together, it's up to you, what's your pleasure, everyone around the world.
All right, all right, the man of the hour is here, Mr. Four Trees, Mr. Mangos, Isaac Cohen is in the building.
I'm gonna send you co-host requests, come through fam, that's actually my fault, he's a bit late, I reset the password, hey, oh man, so great to see all of you, Pierre, my great friend from Canada, is in the audience.
Oh, my lovely people are here, all right, I'm inviting Stereo to come up here, he's the wonderful tech wizard who has created the dynamic NFTs, y'all are gonna be winning, okay, we got a back-to-back episode, okay, it's during the second episode where we're gonna be doing all the giveaways to make sure y'all stick around for that.
It's a very special back-to-back, Isaac, how are you feeling today, my friend?
Oh, as the famous Jimmy Cohen says, great and grateful, mate, can't complain.
Hey, great and grateful.
So, all right, are you gonna join in the Google Meet so we can get some video footage too, or you wanna just do audio?
I can do that.
All right, jump on in, jump on in, kick out these fireflies.
Let's go!
All right, everybody, if you will pay some attention to the pinned graphic up top, we have three pinned posts on the Jumbotron, okay, it'd really mean a lot to me, but it's 100th episode, if you could retweet those, okay?
We have over 100 people who've clicked attending for this space, let's make sure we get 100 people live at one time in the space.
So, retweet all three of those pinned graphics if you could.
Let me know in the chat where you're tuning in from, let me know if you have any questions,
let me know what you're pumped for on the chat, bottom right, and I will pin a bunch of those up to the Jumbotron as well, give you a little shout out, okay?
And also, yeah, if you have any questions throughout the space and you're feeling a bit shy, or if you're in a place you can't come up and speak, just drop them in the chat as well, and I'll pin them up, and I'll make sure all of your questions get answered.
Much love to all of you.
It's the 100th episode, how fitting that we have the one and only Four Trees Club exponentially reversing the effects of climate change.
Okay, fill out, no, I don't want to, nope.
Okay, quit, bam, just me and Isaac.
All right, let's go.
Have we hit record yet?
Okay, we're almost ready.
Start recording.
Boom.
We are live.
All right.
Hello and welcome, everybody, to the Max Impact Show.
This is the live, spacious show that is all about empowering you, the change makers, to maximize your positive impact in the world by leveraging the latest and greatest technology.
With me today is none other than Isaac Cohen, the co-founder of the Four Trees Club.
Isaac has raised millions of dollars for charity.
He's sold tens of millions of dollars worth of software, and now he's dropped everything, his Fortune 50 company job, to come all the way here to Africa with me to exponentially reverse the effects of climate change through Web3 technology.
I'm super grateful to have you on the show, Isaac.
Isaac, you all know the regulars here that we have a tradition on this show, and that is to always, always, always, always start with why.
So when I say what's your why, Isaac, I'm talking about your personal why, your inner drivers that fuels you to jump out of bed in the morning, to burn the midnight oil, do all the amazing things that you do as a president of Rotary Club, all the amazing things that you do.
So how would you describe the why of Isaac Cohen?
Firstly, thank you, Jimmy, for having us on for your 100th.
Much appreciated.
Well done, by the way.
Can we all get a little, one of these clap things for Mr. Jimmy Jam James?
Never-ending stream of energy.
Love your work, mate.
You're an amazing human being.
We appreciate you and everything you do.
My why, why do I do what I do?
I mean, at the end of the day, it's because I can, I think.
And it's, when you surround yourself with positive people, it makes doing all these things effortless, you know.
Like when you find something that you actually enjoy doing, it's not complicated.
You just kind of just do it, you know.
Like I surround myself in a Rotary meeting and I'm surrounded by people who want to serve above their self-interest, right?
And it makes coming up with new projects and helping other people really easy.
I mean, Jimmy, you know my story better than most, I'd say.
But for those that don't, you know, back in 2008, when the world was having a bit of a tough time, as was our mother who lost her house.
And when I was living, I was 16 at the time.
And she lost the house, I ended up homeless, living in the back of car seats and parked benches a few times and went through a bit of a tough little spiral for a couple of years.
But when I was 19, I found out that I could be paid to talk to people, a.k.a. being a sales job.
And for me, that was a bit of a big break.
I found something that I was good at and something that I enjoyed doing.
And I've been doing that for over 10 years now, 11 years or so.
And so when you find something that you're good at, it makes it easy to do.
And so when you're then presented with lots of different opportunities that make it exponential growth, right?
You can find lots of great people who can help with that great mission.
And that in itself is an exponential growth model.
So fortunately, I've been blessed with lots of great opportunities in the last 10 years.
Fortune 100 companies, I was the head of global strategy for 23rd most valuable company in the world at one point doing HR software for a company called SAP.
It was great.
I was the world's youngest ever hired global executive at the company, traveling around the world and really enjoying it.
But really, when I left that company, I got to explore my own why.
Why was I doing all these things?
I started a couple of companies that made great cash and I really, really enjoyed it.
And then COVID hit.
I met with Jimmy in Canada and we decided, hey, let's go make some impact.
So I turned my company into a nonprofit.
In the last two years, we started about a dozen different nonprofits that have been helping people fight corruption and injustices, give clean drinking water to people, build schools, clean beaches, plant trees, do all kinds of great stuff.
And so I think we're in a really exciting part of our lives where we can apply the things that we are good at and get excited about to actually make a positive impact on the planet.
I love it.
I love it.
Thank you for sharing that with everyone.
And if we were to go way, way back when, like back when we were just little little wee kids, because it's interesting to connect the dots looking back, right?
Like now where we're really focused on solving this massive problem that is climate change through through these different technology and stuff.
But but, you know, if you go back to it, how how did you first get introduced to to environmentalism?
Way back when?
Oh, sorry.
So back when I was a kid, I described it as mom's a tree hugging hippie and dad's a city slicker because mom would take us to these koala protection, sanctuary, reserve, tree planting, whatever.
I mean, we were like eight and nine should literally I have photos of you, by the way, to me dressed up as a koala dancing around after the tree planting.
Oh, my God.
So after we planted hundreds of trees, you know, eight, nine years old doing this kind of stuff, whereas dad was the definition of a city slicker, you know, from Tokyo, just in trading and just in the very much the business world.
So they were kind of polar opposites, which bred to pretty diverse cats, I reckon.
But, yeah, I'd say that the tree planting and environment piece is 100 percent mom.
There's no question.
I think the business side is more pops.
But, yeah, I'd say that would have started with mom back before we could walk.
I don't think we had a choice in the matter, mate.
She'd just drag us out to Boris and go, that's it.
We're planting a tree.
I know you can't walk, mate.
I know you can't walk.
Plant that tree.
Yeah.
All right.
Awesome.
By the way, it's a little bit windy where you are.
If you're able to cover the wind a little bit, that could help.
But, yeah.
So, yeah.
Okay.
Awesome.
So, all right.
So we decided to drop everything and come to Africa.
Originally, that was doing clean water projects, right?
And then we started to get more and more involved in rotary clubs and the tree planting side there.
How did that evolve and eventually lead to the Four Trees Club, which you are now the CEO of?
Well, I mean, look, we came to Africa originally for one reason.
And that reason is we thought we can do things better.
We've raised millions of dollars for charities all over the world.
And, you know, we saw the money that – when I arrived – sorry, take a step back for a second.
So when I first arrived in Vancouver, the object was because of rotary – because of COVID, sorry.
And, you know, you were, like, for breakfast doing some kind of charity thing.
Then lunchtime, you were doing some door-to-door other charity thing, help women get passports who were being sex traded or whatever.
And then in the evenings, you were doing – oh, stop deafness while raising funds for water and whatever.
You were doing all these amazing things.
And so my object was, okay, how can I help make your thing more efficient?
How can I help you make more cash and how can I – whatever.
And so we ended up looking into how are these charities spending their money.
And, you know, we took a leap and said, I reckon we can do it cheaper.
So we did that, you know, quoting at scale thing.
I had the data team scrape every single construction company in all of Uganda.
We scraped every sand quarry and stone quarry in all of the country.
And we asked them for a quote.
They all gave us a price.
We gave them that price and we sent it all back to everybody and said, hey, give us a better price.
And we kept doing that until we had a way better price.
And I think we realized that we can do that water project much, much more cost effectively than other NGOs.
And so by coming to Africa, we obviously knew that we'd be able to do it much, much better than if we were trying to do it remotely.
But, you know, you come to Uganda and Kenya, you know, water is not the only problem, right?
You've got unlimited problems.
We have limited time, but unlimited problems.
And so through Rotary and through all the other NGOs that we're working with, we got to uncover different problems that might have different solutions.
And time and time again, we'd find much more efficient, effective ways to tackle these problems.
Trees is one of them, right?
We had big issues with human rights in this country.
You know, it's illegal to advertise as a lawyer in this country to protect the noble industry that it is, although there is a saying in this country that it's why hire a lawyer when you can buy a judge.
There is a lot of corruption throughout the continent.
And I think, you know, we address that issue by creating an AI lawyer.
So you can ask any question that you want to a free lawyer.
There's no legal advice, legal fees required.
But then when we did tree planting, it was because we, you know, I spent thousands of dollars on planting different trees all over the country.
We found a species that just so happened to pollinate at some time of the year and made it extremely efficient to pluck and harvest and plant.
And we decided to learn about all of the 110 species of mangroves that made tree planting within the mangrove sector 10x more cost effective.
There are dogs all over the place here, hang on.
But we found a way to make it more effective, cost effective, and we were able to charge 10x less, and we were 100x more efficient.
A little bamboo.
You're muted there, mate.
You're muted.
Yeah.
Still muted.
I've been trying to get rid of the dogs, but yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, you got to tap him.
Yeah, there you go.
He keeps auto-muting.
Well, that's Twitter spaces for you.
Yeah, you always get one solo to rockin'.
But maybe just wipe the screen.
If there's, like, any matter on the screen, that's how things can auto-press.
Been there.
Been there.
But, yeah, I mean, as you kind of figure that out, I can kind of elaborate, obviously, because we're working on this together.
So it started with cost efficiency, right?
And by the way, just to take everyone back to, if we were to rewind, I told this story before, but super quick.
When we're talking about quotes at scale, when I was on a family holiday over in Rome, I had asked my dad if I could buy this little souvenir, right?
It was the cathedral, and he said, you know what?
Go down the street.
You'll see all these people by the road selling the exact same cathedral souvenir.
Ask them if they can beat the price that you just told me, and then go to the next guy, see if he can beat that price, and then go to the next guy, see if he can beat that, and then go all the way back to the start and see if he can beat that price.
And sure enough, I did this, and the price was about half what I had originally wanted to get for it.
And so that was a really great lesson.
And so essentially, when we came to Africa for these water projects, we decided to do that at scale, right?
Isaac has a data marketing sales company.
He could scrape all of the contact info of the people who are providing these things to build biosand filters.
So we did that at scale, got the price weighed down, and then we were seeing how much, you know, a lot of groups, like UN says it costs three euros to plant a tree, right?
And then we were able to get it down to 9.4 cents.
And we weren't even thinking about carbon credits and leveraging that at all when we got into the tree planting stuff, right?
We're just like, well, we can just plant trees really cost effectively and scalably, then let's do it.
And then how did things start to evolve from there?
Go ahead.
Oh, like, sorry, like I was saying before, my Twitter decided to refuse to let me speak.
Like, like all of these projects, the humanitarian thing, the water project, the tree project, I looked them all in the same way.
And there's a form of value engineering you can apply to every business that I don't think is applied in the nonprofit sector.
I think that there's no real incentive in the nonprofit sector to be extremely efficient.
By doing that, you lose salaries.
You don't actually create better projects or change anything.
And so we look at it the same way.
And that's how we've created quite a few entities.
We've got the world's cheapest clean drinking water solution, undeniably cheaper than anyone else on the planet.
And the same thing goes for trees.
And right now, the flavor of the month is trees because people realize there's an imminent threat to humans.
And so we're looking at it.
Oh, this applies to everybody.
Yeah, we've got a fire over in California.
We've got massive fires across the entire Australia and cyclones and all these problems.
Oh, this affects me.
And so, you know, trees is relevant to me and therefore people are caring.
But I think that there are many industries within the nonprofit sector that need a stern looking at because they're not as efficient as they should be.
And that's something that I personally thoroughly enjoy doing is moving the needle, is analyzing how these businesses run and why they run where they run so that we can figure out how to make them better or the best would be great.
You know, today we're doing tree planting with mangroves.
But we've been asked to join a company which has more carbon credits than any other company in the world because they trust how we run businesses.
They trust how we will look at the issue.
And I have a motto that if you can't prove it to me digitally, then it never happened.
If I can't see it digitally, then I don't believe the work ever happened.
And I think that mentality needs to be applied for many sectors called micromanagement or whatever you want.
But I do think that this nonprofit sector is extremely lazy and it needs a bit of a shakeup.
Right. Yeah, no, that makes total sense, right?
Because nonprofits are, you know, there's no real incentive to minimize cost.
So coming in as a social enterprise, you're able to really help drive that efficiency home and then scale through these kind of impact investments and Web3.
Okay, cool. So it makes sense how the impact side, how we got here to making this impact, to making it the most cost effective.
But now let's start to say, okay, now how are we leveraging technology?
Because we have a Gitcoin grant live and, you know, we're highlighting everything from fungible to semi-fungible to non-fungible to virtual worlds.
And this whole vision of the eco-verse that Stereo is helping build.
But, yeah, so let's now segue into how we go from making the impact to scaling the impact through technology.
How are you going about doing that at Four Trees?
So, like most of the biggest problems in the world, I think the only real way to fix them is through technology, right?
There's an organization I met with, which I'm not going to name now.
I met with a global head of client services.
They plant a million trees a day.
And when I asked them, how do you count your trees?
They said, manually.
Now, anyone listening to this, you tell me how you're going to count a million trees a day for 365 days a year.
Tell me how you're going to do that and not have some errors, right?
And it's one example of every single industry can drastically change with the right use of technology.
And we fortunately come up with a really smart way to only use AI to generate tokens that say, oh, here's the proof that the tree has been planted.
That AI generates the content to provide evidence of those trees being planted.
That content and that AI and that blockchain is immutable.
So, when we produce it, there is no changing my Excel report.
There's no playing around with the numbers.
That's the number and it's provable.
And so, by applying that strategy, we're able to scale to any region in the world.
If we're able to go anywhere on planet Earth, that combined with our partnership with Rotary, we can then tap into a 1.4 million person organization that's ready, willing, able to live a life of servitude and provide service above self.
And so, I think that, look, when you come across whatever job you have, you can be a bartender, you can be driving cars, you can be selling trees like us or whatever it is that you're doing.
I mean, there's a thing that you need in that space that if you had a better product or service that could give you a lower cost to acquire it, a more cost-effective way to procure it or a more valuable way to receive it, you're going to prefer it, right?
And so, by applying technology in a much more efficient practice, we're able to go anywhere in the world and scale accordingly.
What I know for sure is that there's no company on planet Earth that can do it more cost-effectively, more transparently, and more sustainably than what we can do today.
That applies to both our tree projects and our water projects and certainly our legal projects.
Amazing.
So, yeah, this is going back to that non-fungible update concept, right?
Like, for eight years, as you were saying, I was raising funds in so many different ways.
Throughout the day, I was knocking on people's doors, convincing them to give to charities.
I was hustling away, planning music festivals for charities.
I was selling products at the evenings, at nightclubs to try to raise funds for clean water.
And then a year later, I was still following up for my updates.
And finally, this one water charity said, all right, fine.
Yeah, we'll come to your office.
We'll give you the printout.
Like, printout?
So they gave me a printout of this water project.
And on that printout, they didn't have their current logo.
They didn't have their previous logo.
They had the logo before that, which is, you know, it's blatantly using the same update for everyone, you know?
And that's a huge breakdown.
And I fundamentally believe so many more people would give if they knew and they trusted where the money would go, right?
And so updates should not be fungible, right?
And so non-fungible updates.
So what Four Trees is doing is filming every single tree with an AI tree counter, counting exactly how many are planted, right?
Way more accurate than human beings.
It's getting, like, what is it, 96% already getting better every single day we update the data.
And that's on the blockchain, which means since it's a non-fungible token, you cannot upload it twice.
And so that's a really great concept in terms of transparency.
But it all starts with the seed, right?
With the seed token.
Tell us about how that works and how the pegging and how that evolves into, you know, the plantation certificates, etc.
Right, so you're talking about seed token within the Ecoverse project, right?
Yeah, okay.
So the Ecoverse project is really interesting.
We have this wizard who I think is on this call, this session here.
Stereo, is Stereo on the line?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's here.
So Stereo is the kind of executioner who's, like, he gets a math problem in his head and you can just see the wheels turning and he won't stop until it's figured out.
He's, like, he's, like, the beautiful mathematician that loves a problem but strives for excellence.
My perfect kind of colleague.
I love him.
And we showed him a way to map out a 2D planet but divide every 3 meter by 3 meter block of Earth but then identify those 3 meter by 3 meter blocks by a unique combination of words.
So he turned that, there's another company that does something similar but not quite how Stereo built it.
Stereo built it to make it a sentence.
So where I'm sitting right now, 3 meters surrounding me, Stereo has been able to identify that 3 meter by 3 meter block with a verb and a noun and an adjective so it sounds nice and you can define where you are on planet Earth.
And when using this for a form of compliance to say, okay, within this 3 meter by 3 meter block, you'll only ever be able to plant X amount of trees.
No one on Earth will ever be able to plant trees on that block.
The puppies are at it again.
Man, I miss Lola and Bambi.
Cute little dogs.
Little doges.
One of the puppy, one of the cleaners here.
Because the dogs just hate, I don't know why, but they just hate one of them.
I don't know what it is.
Hilarious.
Sorry, guys.
Okay, friends.
Okay, while we wait for that, I noticed we got Eucalyptus is from Amsterdam.
Adam, he's letting me know where we are.
Let people know, let us know where you're tuning in from in the chat, bottom right.
I love how international everyone is.
Obviously, I'm in Tanzania.
Isaac's in Kenya.
FOMO head, you're in New York, I believe.
I believe you're in New York.
We got Israel in the house, Mr. Hype.
We got Medusa in South Africa.
We got Crypto Simba in Kenya.
We got a bunch of America.
I know we got a bunch of Europe.
Let me know in the chat and I'll pin it up here.
And also, if you have any questions at any point in time, also drop that in the chat and then
I will pin that up to the Jumbotron here so that everyone can see.
Okay, go ahead, Isaac.
I think we're all nice on the back now.
Thank you, guys.
Yeah, so basically, Stereo's built out this map of the world called the Ecoverse where
he's plotted out every single three meter by three meter block on planet Earth where
we can then allocate seeds and then trees and calculate the amount of carbon that's
being sequestered within those blocks.
And so by putting all of this on the blockchain, it means when you buy a set of trees, it can
only be bought once.
That carbon can only be sequestered once and you can only generate those carbon credits
once.
And so that whole process of buying seeds, turning them into trees, turning them into
carbon, all automated through his smart contracts, but also visualized through the
Ecoverse.
Implemented through Four Trees Club, but visualized on this Ecoverse where you can literally click
on your block, get these non-fungible updates that say, hey, look at the person planting
them as evidence that it's actually being planted.
For starters, I can guarantee you no one is doing just that bit alone.
Hey, let me see the trees that I bought.
Let me see them being planted.
No one's doing that at the scale that we're doing anyway.
And so by buying trees on a specific piece of land, turning them into seeds on a specific
bit of land and turning them into trees and then seeing that carbon being generated, we're
able to visualize and realize the exact impact of our actions and also experience a financial
benefit as well.
It is good business to do good in business.
That's a simple fact.
You can invest in trees which generate carbon and you will see a return because it's something
that the world needs, right?
It's a very clear path to ROI when you're doing carbon reducing activities.
Right.
So it starts with the fungible tokens, right?
You plant them, so to say, in the Ecoverse where you're not able to get them back once
they're planted, right?
Then they're planted.
But what you do get is you get a plantation certificate.
So this is a semi-fungible token.
They all look pretty much the same, except what changes is the exact location where they're
going to be planted, right?
That plot of land that you were speaking about, where they are planted in the Ecoverse.
And then once you have that planted, you then get your NFU, right?
So once they're actually planted, you get a non-fungible update.
So you get to see exactly what the trees look like, how many they are, the AI tree counter,
et cetera.
So now you have two digital assets.
And then finally, the third digital asset comes into your carbon forward coin, right?
Forward carbon.
So this, I feel like, is one of the keys to actually standing a chance to fighting this
massive existential problem that is climate change, because it's an exponentially growing
problem, right?
The greenhouse grasses are growing exponentially.
Our solutions need to have the potential to scale exponentially.
And so this is how it's getting...
Yeah.
So how do carbon forwards work, and how are we leveraging that with the final piece to
the puzzle?
Well, the numbers are super simple.
So today, to plant a tree, prove that the tree has been planted, record all of that footage,
send it up onto the blockchain, deliver that to you by a non-fungible update, et cetera.
It costs 9.4 cents.
I dare anyone to try to find a company that can do it for double, triple, quadruple, quintuple
the price.
And so we invest a huge amount in local community development to make sure that these trees survive.
But once you invest, say, 27 cents in mangrove trees, over their lifetime, they'll sequester
a ton of carbon.
And anybody who knows anything about carbon credits, is a carbon credit can go from anywhere
between $5 and $800, depending on the kinds of carbon projects that you're going to invest
Now, it's forecasted that these numbers are going to massively increase as the world is
being forced to reduce their carbon footprint.
But no matter how you look at it, spending 30 cents on some trees, that will return X amount
of carbon, we're talking about 20 to 500 X ROI.
It's just crazy, crazy returns on investing in trees, right?
At the end of the day, you're investing in a solution to one of the world's biggest problems,
a potential existential threat, right?
Something that will...
The goal for the planet by 2030 is to get to a one and a half degree temperature change.
No more than one and a half degree temperature change.
And that's what the UN says.
And if we accomplish our goals, we'll only lose 70% of all of our coral reefs on the planet.
That's our planet's goal, to achieve 70% of the bloody coral reefs dead.
To me, that's a disgrace.
That's just disgusting that we're even thinking about losing 70%.
1% of our coral reefs being dead shows how primitive we are.
Now, if we get to two degree temperature change by 2030, we lose 99% of all of our coral reefs.
If we all do not step up and do something, that's what we're experiencing, right?
We're losing huge amounts of the planet.
So, obviously, there are lots of financial incentives to be able to fix this problem.
So, people are, A, made aware of how serious the issue is, but B, do something about it, right?
The hardest step is the first step.
The hardest part of doing something impactful in your life is doing that first thing.
When you realize how easy it is to make a positive impact on the planet, it's addictive, right?
You want to keep doing it.
Jimmy and I attest to that.
But it's really difficult making people realize,
Hey, shit, I could have planted 10 trees this weekend by spending a dollar.
You know, hey, I could have bought a cup of coffee, convinced that coffee shop to plant a tree.
Well, my bad. I think it is muted.
Yeah, I mute yourself there.
There you go.
Now, mine's acting up.
All right, go ahead.
Oh, you're muted.
I think you're muted.
I see your mouth moving, but there you go.
Okay.
Are we good now?
Yeah, yeah, you're good.
Okay.
Anyway, my point is, I think the most people should just give it a whirl.
Try to do something positive once a week.
Just go do something nice.
Go try to help the planet.
Go try to help someone.
Cross the street.
Pick up some rubbish.
Do something.
But the fact that our planet's heating up is inevitable and so proven it's ridiculous.
Yet most people, I would wager on this group, are not planting trees or doing something to reduce their impact.
So I'd encourage everyone to look into, hey, go to Google, type in top 10 ways I can reduce my carbon from the planet.
Top 10 ways I can stop negatively affecting the planet.
I wrote an article a while ago called, if it's not good, it's bad.
Every action that you do, if it's not doing something good, I guarantee you it's doing something bad.
You go buy a can of Coke, you go buy a charger, you go buy whatever you buy, it's doing something negative for the planet.
Unless you're combating that, you're actively doing something negative for the planet.
Bit of a bummer.
Sorry, Jimmy.
No, it's okay.
I mean, let's flip that around.
Like, didn't you do a calculation with, because mangrove trees remove 8 to 10 times the amount of carbon from the atmosphere compared with all other terrestrial forests, right?
And so 8 to 10 times, that means if everyone in the world planted 147 mangrove trees, we would be a carbon neutral species.
And by the way, you can do that in less than an hour, right?
If you're near the coastline and by the equator, but not everyone can.
So you could either commit your time, your value, or your money to actually doing that.
What is that, like 12 bucks or something to do that?
So very, very manageable, very, very attainable.
And as you were saying before, there's this absurd margin when it comes to carbon credits compared to what it actually costs to plant the trees.
And in particular, even if you do carbon forwards, which is a reduced rate, we actually get those funds in a shorter timeframe.
So what 4trees is doing here, this magic sauce is enabling anyone,
even if you're not running a huge plantation, you're not a big impact investor,
anyone can participate in the beauty of this carbon forward phenomenon, right?
You can get your seed tokens, you can plant them in the Ecoverse,
you can get your plantation tokens, your semi-fungible, you get your non-fungible updates,
and then finally you get this carbon forward token, which is a portion of the entire carbon forward tokens, right?
It's just a portion.
The vast majority goes back to actually planting the trees, right?
Which is an order of magnitude more trees than were planted in the first place to actually get those carbon forward tokens, right?
And so if you can go in order of magnitude, in order of magnitude,
that's what I'm talking about when I say exponential growth, right?
And so everyone in this room who is doing a carbon or environmental cause,
I see fighters getting in here, right?
I know that, I know even the social bees are looking into some refi stuff.
Atlantis, all of you guys, if you're not tapping into carbon forwards,
and the beauty of that exponential growth model to actually solve these gigantic problems,
problems, and both do good and, you know, and do well for yourself,
then I think there's so much being missed out.
We've got Medusa in the house, right?
We've got all these wonderful, I know Matthew's huge in the refi space,
and so I love seeing you people unite in these spaces to discuss these ideas,
because these things should not be held back, right?
We've got eucalyptus in the building, right?
All you guys are leveraging Web3 to make a positive impact,
but we all need to collaborate on this, because, look,
we've developed some absurdly great technology.
Stereo in here is one of the brightest, genius developers I've ever connected with,
who's going to be gifting all of you, oh, did I give that away?
I'm giving all of you dynamic NFTs by the end of this,
or, but when we get to 100 people in this space, what are we now?
I think we're around 70, 65 people, okay?
We have over 100 who registered to attend, so everybody, let's retweet the room, okay?
All these pinned graphics up here, retweet what's pinned on the Jumbotron,
retweet the space, which is in the bottom right in the chat.
If you've already retweeted, you can un-retweet and then re-retweet.
Let's fill this up to 100.
We will release all of the free NFTs once we get to 100 in the room,
or when we finish our second episode of the Max Impact Show today.
So, yeah, okay, guys, we are well beyond the halfway mark,
which means it is your turn to Shimon up here to the stage.
This is the Q&A discussion portion, okay?
So just tap that mic button in the bottom left
and get your beautiful profile pics up here to the speaker panel
and bring thy questions.
Much love, everybody.
Don't be shy.
Don't be shy.
Yes, Senor Ed, the regen, tree master, regenerative farming.
How are we doing, Ed, with Crackawacken?
Doing well.
Thanks for having me up.
I got a question on how do you – I mean, it's great to get the great price
to plant a tree, but coming from the farming community,
I'm pretty wary of how that happens to us all the time when –
I mean, I've worked in the coffee industry, too,
and, you know, we've had many years of coyotes coming in
and just, you know, working together
and just not offering the farmer enough money to even, you know,
pay for even planting or, you know, doing the harvest or anything.
So how do you determine whoever you have working
that they're not exploiting the workers or a bureaucrat
or whoever the head of the group isn't taking most of the money
or, you know, with the extreme cases, higher prices, you were saying,
you know, is the bureaucracy eating a lot of that
and then the workers still don't get paid.
They're actually doing the work.
So how do you make sure that, you know, it's great to have a great price,
but we all know there's a lot of cheap products in the world
and we know the exploitation that's behind them.
And then I have one other point, too, and it is if you're planting trees,
trees do not make an ecosystem.
So how do you then determine that the planting of the trees
are going to create the proper ecosystem for those trees
to thrive for their life and for it to create an ecosystem?
Because I'm from the United States
and my dad used to be into woodworking and stuff and had a kiln.
And, you know, we saw a lot of trees planted over the last century
that were planted really wrong.
And now they're 40, 50 years old and they're all crowded out
and there's no ecosystem in the woods and the trees are suffering.
And so they're going to have a much shorter life than they probably should have had.
And so how do you deal with all those sort of issues?
Great question, Ed.
I appreciate you asking and stepping up.
So I've said this almost every week since I've started this thing,
is that I couldn't give two hoots about planting trees.
I care about growing trees.
And the only way to grow trees is to focus most of my energy on the survival
and the sustainability of my projects.
And the way that we do that is through a majority reinvestment
in the local communities that plant those trees.
So unfortunately, most of the communities surrounding mangrove areas
are living below the global extreme poverty line.
And so when we go in there, these guys are living off flour and water
and a bit of greens and a bit of whatever they can scrape by.
Kids are dropping out of school at 14, getting pregnant at 12.
So there's a lot of problems that happen in these communities.
And so obviously, when we bring in lumps of cash into these areas,
it's a huge improvement.
Now, that doesn't change, like you said, this pyramid structure where,
let's say we hire and we pay really well for each tree that gets planted
and the tree planters will be well compensated,
but it ends up going to one or two people at the top.
That doesn't fix that problem.
What does fix that problem is a reinvestment
in a local community-based organization that ensures there's 20 to 30 people
on the board of that company that are responsible for the survival
and sustainability of that local community.
Let me tell you what I mean there.
So we reinvest heavily in local businesses that are owned
by that community-based organization,
whether it be crab farming, lobster farming, honey,
a boatload of different, we actually build boats as well,
but a boatload of different businesses that are entirely owned
by the local communities.
And so there's never an opportunity for any individual
or a couple of individuals to try to steal that cash
because the cash is known by the entire community.
They all get access to it equally, and it should be shared accordingly.
And so, again, I want to reiterate the number one
and most important part of any tree planting project
or any sustainability project should be focused on the survival rate
of the trees and the sustainability of that local project.
And if you can focus on that piece,
then you're obviously looking after the locals,
obviously looking after the people that are caring for the trees.
We have a motto in our plantations,
that if you ever see one tree fall, plant two.
We give health insurance to the people who are planting
and two of their family members.
We make sure that they're always receiving,
they receive five to 25 times more of an income
than what they're receiving before working with us.
Right?
And so, yeah, again, our projects will not survive
unless we focus on the local communities
that are planting those actual trees.
Yeah, but there were two parts to Ed's question.
So I think that covers the first one quite well.
The second one is about diversity, right?
How do you create a diverse ecosystem, right?
One tree can't necessarily create an ecosystem.
Though what I have noticed is that mangroves in particular
tend to lead to a lot of other nature thriving around it.
Maybe you could elaborate on that a bit.
Well, mangroves are clever.
Almost every week I'm learning something new about mangroves.
So mangroves absorb eight to ten times more carbon
than terrestrial forests.
And they do that by keeping all of the organic matter
that is coming in and out through the tides
within their massive rooting systems.
And so naturally, with such a huge amount of organic matter
within their forests,
they're attracting all of the small baby fish
that are hiding from the predators within the mangroves.
And so you can look at our mangrove plantations
as the starting points of all ecosystems.
This is where all the baby fish and baby crabs
and birds and bees and everything starts, right?
So mangroves are the middle point between oceans and lands, right?
This is the place where ecosystems begin.
And by planting a single tree,
that's what's triggering that ripple effect.
That's what's triggering that series of events
to attract land animals and water animals to these locations.
So I would argue that mangrove trees
are a huge impact in biodiversity.
Right. And just to add to that real quick,
also, we don't just randomly plant mangroves
where they aren't already existing, right?
Like for the optimal survival rate of the mangroves
that we plant,
it actually has to be within two meters of the mother tree, right?
And FOMO knows this.
FOMO reiterates this in so many of his Twitter spaces.
By the way, if you haven't followed FOMO head,
go ahead and do that.
And of course, follow Four Trees,
a very impactful organization.
And yeah, so they're being planted nearby,
not in a random location.
And mangroves, if you look this up,
they do lead to a lot of biodiversity
because they create this very fertile environment.
And that's why another one of the sustainability programs
is actually setting up crab and lobster farms
adjacent to the mangroves
because it's because of the mangroves
that the crabs and lobsters can really thrive around them.
And so by giving microfinance to local entrepreneurs
who set up these crab and lobster farms
adjacent to the mangroves,
now they are protectors of the mangroves, right?
Because if someone goes and chops those trees down,
then they lose their business essentially.
And in Kenya, there's a five-year,
maybe Crypto Witch can attest to this,
there's a five-year imprisonment
if you get caught cutting mangrove trees,
but it still happens all the time
because the underlying problem is poverty.
And so that's what Four Trees is really trying to tackle
with these businesses that are dependent on the mangroves,
which is regenerative businesses, right?
As we're saying,
like all these products are destructive by nature,
but if you can support the regenerative economy,
like you have regenerative farming,
regenerative, you know, in this case, crab farming,
it can really lead to more wildlife flourishing.
Okay, I see Crypto Witches raise your hand,
but Chris was first,
so let's get to Chris and then CryptoWiz.
Go ahead, Chris.
Yeah, good morning.
Great conversation, everyone.
I love that you touched on the replanning,
you know, tree farmer here in the United States,
and you can put a tree in the ground
with every intention of it growing and thriving,
but things happen and that doesn't always happen.
And so I was curious if on the, you know,
programming and analytics side,
if you guys have a model for dealing with replanting
and issuing a new token for the three by three plot
where there was formerly a tree.
So I'm getting some signals from Isaac
that he can't hear right now.
So Isaac, maybe just jump out
and then rejoin if you can hear.
So you're saying on the token analytics side,
could you repeat that just one more time?
Yeah, I'm just curious if, you know,
the model allows for replanting a tree, you know,
like that three by three meter space you're talking about,
there's not going to be a tree in it for eternity.
And so what happens during the next capture cycle?
Right, okay.
So this is a thing where we've paid the healthcare
of not just our employees and two of their family members,
but a lot of single mothers across the coastlines.
We have this sustainability program
where since we take care of them,
when they notice some trees have fallen over,
they go and replant more, right?
So we have that replanting process.
And those are really just a part of the same, right?
The same trees that were planted.
Although technically there are new mangrove trees
that get planted in that area.
It's like when someone buys one of these seed tokens
and they plant them in the ecoverse,
those, we are always striving
for more than 100% success rate.
Meaning that we'll plant a bit more out of the gate.
We'll have all these sustainability programs
with these adjacent businesses,
the regenerative businesses.
But then we'll also have these replanting
if we notice some,
because inevitably some could get washed away
by the tide, et cetera.
So they'll actually replenish those,
but it's all counted within the same.
Does that answer your question?
Go ahead, Isaac.
It does, but I think for long-term accountability,
it would be great if they were tokenized as well.
I mean, I love the-
The replant ones?
The spirit behind it.
I agree.
Yeah, I mean, if the-
Go ahead.
I agree.
I think that all impacts should be immutable.
There should be no negotiation
around the impact that you're making, right?
And by tokenizing
and putting all of our reports online
on the blockchain,
it means that you can't fiddle with the numbers.
And that's something I've seen far too much of.
So I totally agree with you.
Yeah, I'm sorry, guys.
I did cut out for a second,
so I don't know if there was another point
that you were trying to make,
but I do totally agree
that all impacts should be monitored for starters.
You should have proof,
evidence that you have done the thing
that you've said you've done.
And if you don't,
I don't believe him.
I'm sorry.
You can have a certificate
signed by,
I don't give a shit who,
but if you don't have visual evidence
that shows that you've done that thing,
personally,
I don't believe him, right?
And I think everybody should feel that way
if you're going to be investing
or doing anything in the nonprofit sector.
I'm very skeptical
with the vast majority of nonprofit activities.
Yeah, rightly so.
You know,
there's so many scandals that have come out.
That one that I shared before
about the printout updates
with two logos previous,
a huge scandal came out about them.
I was actually featured in the news
talking about my experience.
And so this stuff happens all the time, right?
And so,
and to tie into your question before,
Chris,
I know you're a listener now,
but basically that's where
the non-fungible updates will come in, right?
So you go out one seed token,
once you plant that,
that's done, right?
You can't get that seed token back.
You get your plantation certificate
and you get your non-fungible updates.
But you don't just get
one non-fungible update, right?
You actually get several of these over time
sent to you
and airdropped to your wallet.
So this is an update.
So you might notice,
okay,
there are some new trees planted here
as the replant is going on.
There are some other older ones
and you start to see those flourish over time.
So you get that evidence
with an AI tree counter
airdropped to your crypto wallet
sequentially over time.
Go ahead, CryptoWish.
Thank you for your patience.
I thank you for,
you know,
letting me speak.
And this is such a wonderful project.
It's wonderful to know
that you've got,
you know,
you've done a hundred of these events,
these crypto spaces.
So well done.
That's a really big deal.
But not to take away
from what you're saying.
I was just wondering about,
you know,
mangroves have very deep roots
and it's right
that they start off
with the babies and everything.
I was wondering
what you were going to do
about congestion
because,
you know,
at some point
there is huge,
you know,
they create so much
of a mud backlog
or a mud buildup,
right,
that you would actually be
stopping the flow of water.
So I was just wondering about that.
I know it's a technical question.
Great question.
really good question
and this is something
that I've been talking about
with quite a lot of organizations,
including quite a few U.S.
government organizations as well.
But the goal isn't just mangroves,
right?
So we've started with mangroves
because they're extremely efficient.
But once the areas
are saturated
of mangroves,
we then move on
to a seaweed plantation
which can absorb
around six to eight times
the amount of carbon
as a terrestrial forest
and then move on
to a seagrass plantation
which can then absorb again
six to eight times
as much carbon
as a terrestrial forest.
And so the goal
of these projects
is to create
these super absorbers
of carbon.
These areas
that sequester
more carbon
than anything else
in the world
so that there are
these massive attractors
of wildlife
and biodiversity
that right now
don't exist.
These areas
of superconductors
of carbon
do not exist
in the scale
that we're planning
and we're working
with local governments
to create.
and so
mangroves
should be planted
in a very specific way.
You should only
plant them
within a certain radius
of one another
and you should make sure
that you're not planting them
in the wrong kind of seasons.
There are a whole lot
of rules
that we follow
to make sure
that we are creating
the perfect ecosystem
but they're not
the last step.
They're the first step.
Just in mangroves alone
we can create
huge impact
on the global
sequestration
of carbon
just with mangroves.
But then when you start
looking at seaweed
and seagrass
those numbers
10, 20, 30x.
So to answer your question
we work very closely
with local government
organizations
to make sure
that we're planting
these trees perfectly
but they're the first step
of many
to make sure
that we're creating
these incredibly
influential
super absorbers
of carbon.
Thank you very much
for explaining that.
Lovely.
And by the way
Crypto Witch
is in Kenya
and I know
we've been trying
to meet up
for a while
and there's the
ETH Safari event
that's coming up
which is a
Ethereum event.
Very good timing.
We just did
the merge today.
That's right.
We're not just
celebrating the 100th episode
we're also celebrating
the sustainability
of Ethereum.
good merge everybody.
It was a good merge
are you
are you planning
to go to that event
Crypto Witch
or is
Crypto
Simba
Simba
yeah
is Crypto Simba
going to go to that?
Yeah both of us are
so we hope to meet up
with you Jimmy.
we're finally
going to meet up.
I love meeting people
from Twitter spaces
you know
because I've heard
your voice so many times
and then to finally
see your face
it's going to be amazing
so I love that
super super cool
so anyone who's
who's able to come
to Kenya
over the next five days
starting tomorrow
eat Safari
is going to be a really
really cool
Ethereum based event
they're literally
renting an entire train
called the Block Train
the SDR
going from Nairobi
to the coast
going to be fantastic
so I noticed
we've got some
two newbies
or three newbies
up here on the speaker panel
we got Zoles
we got Funky
and we got Humminbirds
go ahead and just
raise your hand
we also got stereo
of course
raise your hand
if you have a question
and I'll call upon you
otherwise you can
simply unmute
okay yeah
go ahead Humminbirds
I want to say
I'm so impressed
by what you guys
are doing
I'm so grateful
it's
it's amazing
magical
what I'm wondering
we also plant trees
but we do it
a little more
primitively
we record
with cameras
and people
the trees
are monitored
and watered
but it's all
done by hand
all the photographs
and progress reports
over the years
to come
because we're in this
for life
is done by hand
so I'm wondering
maybe it's stereo
I don't know
how is this done
with the
recording
of all of these
trees
all of the globe
is it through
satellite photography
also
when you were
describing
how you break up
the planet
is it like
super world
does it
I mean
it's so
technical
my mind
it's mind boggling
so hopefully
you can answer
you're the best
we love you
and everything you do
amazing
hummingbird warriors
one of our
board of directors
is on the
hummingbird awards
I don't know
if they're similar
but here in Kenya
there is a
hummingbird award
ceremony festival
thing
and so
I really respect
a lot of the work
that the hummingbird
group does
but to answer your
question
we're building up
a massive database
of all kinds of
species
and I'd be more
than happy to share
how we can do that
with you guys
and as you plant
trees
we're creating
this FTC
validation
kind of seal
where
you can plant
any species
of tree
and we can
validate exactly
how many of those
trees you've planted
and all you've got to do
is just record it
upload it to our thing
and you get a number
and a seal
right
so we'd be happy
to collaborate with you
just share us the details
you know
send it over
let's make that thing happen
regarding the breakdown
of the planet
that's on the ecoverse
so Jimmy's going to share
a bunch of details
on that
I encourage everybody
to check it out
because you know
your project should be
listed there
everyone's project
should be listed there
we should all be
finding different ways
to impact our local planet
based on these
three meter blocks
right
whether you're
cleaning up a beach
or you're planting
some trees
or you're doing
whatever
the whole point
is that this is
the ecoverse
right
that we're
we're trying to
to help heal
the planet
and this
this is the method
in which we can
divide it
and then allocate
activities
right
whatever it is
you're doing
let's find a way
to make it
make it happen
in the ecoverse
loves it
yeah
so it's literally
it's not satellite footage
it's actually just
any camera footage
as long as you get
a decent resolution camera
good on pixels
then just through
that video footage
that you can record
on your camera
our AI
artificial intelligence
machine learning tool
counts exactly
how many trees
are planted
and then that's
how we're able
to validate that
and form that
into a non-fungible
update
so yeah
we definitely
have plans
to not
you know
why hold this
technology to ourselves
that's what I was
saying before
like stereo
oh I'm muted
stereo has developed
some phenomenal
technology
and we're not
holding it to ourselves
we're more than
happy to share
that around
okay we've got to
start our next
episode soon
but Zolz
I see your
your hands raised
so go ahead
Zolz
what's your question
hi guys
sorry mine is
not really a
question
but just to
you know say
it's really
commendable what
you're doing
I am from
Kenya myself
and I wish
I knew about
your project
a month or two
earlier because
the organization
I work for
we actually
partnered with
the Rotary Club
of Mombasa
to plant
mangrove in
Tudor area
in Mombasa
in July
so you know
it's as you
were saying
it really
affects not
only the
environment
but also
the people
around the
community
because you
know
young people
get a chance
to train
nurseries
assist organizations
in planting
the mangroves
and all that
so it's really
commendable what
we're doing
and that's
I think that
was my
that's all I
wanted to say
I don't have
a question
really
Zolz
I want to
repeat a thing
I heard a while
I'm pretty sure
it's a Chinese
proverb
but the best
time to plant
a tree was
20 years ago
the second
best time
is now
and you might
be working
in Mombasa
today and
would love
to work
with you
because we're
operational in
a whole bunch
of areas
all over the
coast
so send me
a message
and let's
find a way
to plant
some trees
together
sure I will
I don't
work in Mombasa
I work in
Nairobi
but we had
a team
building
I have
a web
3 job
I'm not
a full
time
photographer
so the
organization
I work
for had
a team
building
and we
are pushing
on SDGs
so part of
it we are
doing
we are trying
to do more
environmental
work
so we did
that as
part of
our SDGs
and our CSR
but sure
I come to
Mombasa
frequently
and I'm
sure
we can
link up
and see
what we
can do
together
there
I'm looking
forward to
that
we have
a program
in Kibera
which is
Africa's
largest slum
called
Greening the
Slums
we teach
kids and
all of the
people around
the slums
how to
green their
area
and we do
that through
passion fruit
vines
we've got a
massive campaign
across 24
countries called
Greening the
equator
and if you're
in Nairobi
I don't care
where you are
anywhere in the
world
I will
gladly show
you really
efficient ways
to green
wherever it is
you are
yeah
so please
feel free to
reach out to
me and I'll
gladly throw
all of the
resources necessary
to make sure
you've got a
successful project
nearby you
yeah thank you
thank you so
much for that
I'm really
looking forward to
that and I'll
sure reach out
to you
thank you for
that
yeah and by
the way I
believe we'll
both be in
Nairobi this
weekend for
Eats Safari
Isaac's coming up
in the tail
end because
he's got a
big plantation
goats kicking
off on
Saturday so
I think on
Sunday we'll
probably both
be in Nairobi
so let's
link up there
Eats Safari
baby let's
go I love
it hey
look at all
the connections
going down in
the spaces
you guys could
work together
Humminbird could
collab on the
tech you know
all y'all getting
a free NFT
I don't think
we're at 100
in the space
yet so let's
retweet the
rooms everybody
head to the
chat you can
retweet it there
you can retweet
all these pin
graphics if you've
already retweeted
unretweet
retweet that
puppy one more
time let's get
100 peeps in
here we're
gonna be giving
out NFTs to
every single
person in this
room that's
right I'm
going Oprah on
you guys you
get an NFT
you get an NFT
everybody gets
an NFT but
we gotta get
either 100
people in the
room or by
the end of
the next
episode okay
so now we're
gonna transition
to our next
episode if you
still have
questions for
Isaac go ahead
and just
follow him
you know I
believe the
DMs are open
for the
four trees
club but if
not he'll
follow you
back and
you'll DM
each other
and we'll
work something
out to make
an impact
real quick
before we
transition to
the next
space
drawing your
attention to
the far
left pinned
on the
jumbotron
this is the
gitcoin that
we have
launched for
four trees
to scale
to exponentially
reverse the
effects of
climate change
the amazing
thing that
happens with
gitcoin
grants is they
have this
thing called
quadratic funding
so it's
it's matched
according to
how many
people go
in so you
can literally
just go in
there give
one dollar
right one
stable coin
dollar and
and if enough
people do that
we can get
matched 5 10x
apparently if you
go in KYC
they could even
go up to 100x
okay it says
not in a current
active matching
round right now
but I've spoken
with people from
gitcoin they said
once it does
enter the matching
round everything
that's currently
contributed will
also be matched
how it is in the
future so please
if you could go
there and just
give whatever you
can even one
dollar would
actually make a
massive impact
think about one
dollar going to
100 that's crazy
matching right
and if we get
enough people to
do this that's
the kind of
matching we can
unlock through
this gitcoin
grant so
everybody please
tap that link
and show some
love to the
gitcoin and
much love
everybody thank
you so much
real quick
stereo do you
want to tell us
a little bit
about how these
nfts are
dynamic we
nft stereo was
a was a speaker
on the show
here recently and
he was speaking
about the beauty
of dynamic nfts
of soul bound
dynamic nfts and
the innovations
there stereo you
able to shine
some light on just
how are these
dynamic all right
hey everybody how
are you guys doing
um yeah these
tokens are dynamic
in a very special
way you have the
chance to visit the
smart contract after
you minted them and
if you're owner of a
token you can choose
which token of the
ones you own you
want to change the
context and you can
simply write the
new status message
and your token
will display your
new status message
in a speech
bubble it has
so you'll have
nfts that you can
update yourself
dynamically and
they'll display a
new message every
time you change
your status
amazing so stereo
literally built this
yesterday and today
he has innovated
with nfts what i'm
saying if anyone
here wants to
innovate with nfts
you hit up stereo
because if you can
make a dynamic nft
that has never um
been dynamic in the
way that this is
right this has never
changed in the way
as according to what
this is you can
literally connect any
data set for nfts to
change dynamically and
visually and so uh
so it's super super
cool uh how you're
able to do that
stereo thank you so
much all right
so we are going to
transition now to
the rising sun we
went deep into the
impact now let's
talk about some more
web 3 innovations
okay these guys are
doing amazing things
in the web 3 space
so we're going to
transition to the
them rising sun how
are you doing my
friend good good
jimmy thank you uh
for having us um
really appreciate it
um just listening to
you guys space right
now and uh it's uh
it's pretty amazing
work pretty pretty
hardcore stuff um
that you guys are
doing i mean it is
deep and um i mean
i've i've looked at
projects in the defi
space that were
trying um i mean some
just ended up being
actual complete scams
um but nowhere
tapping um what you
guys are talking about
right now and that's
pretty amazing um what
you guys are doing
thank you brother that
really means a lot
okay then without
further ado let's kick
it off um did you
want to join the
google meet such that
we can record some
some cool video
footage for this you
just do that on the
computer and then we
will record audio via
spaces
give me one second
all right okay i'm
gonna boot isaac out of
this twitter space out of
this recording here
uh all right yeah you
gotta leave leave the
the visual okay we're
transitioning now to the
next episode um and
actually sorry to say it
but if you could actually
uh log out of the
twitter we got we got
uh dennis doing some
more tests on high
quality music we're gonna
have an octoparty in this
twitter space uh after we
give out all the the
dynamic nfts to you guys
and so uh yeah we're
doing a lot of tweaks
in the back end we
finally made it work and
then lo and behold as
with any innovation you
get setbacks and things
you gotta work out bugs
you gotta squish okay
david enter isaac please
exit the google meet
recording and we will
get this show on the
road all right get out
of there
all right david you can
turn your camera on
and bada bing as they
say bada boom okay
while we're waiting for
for the visual visual to
do this let's uh let's
play just one more tune
shall we just one more
funky beat okay david
you're gonna want to
enable your camera which
is in the bottom section
there actually you know
what you guys are uh you
guys are doing uh vampires
and uh and this uh it's
halloween in about a month
so this is a this is a
halloween mix by rez
there's nothing to worry
about you're gonna be just
fine
ominous
all right let's see some
emoji dances to the beat
we're
much love everybody in the space today it is so heartwarming see all of you beautiful profile
pictures here to make some impact while we set up this space let's get the vibes going again
All right, rising sun, I've invited you up here.
All right.
All right.
All right, rising sun, you just got to tap the mic button in the bottom left to come
up here as a speaker.
You do have to be on mobile.
So you have to be on your mobile phone.
Okay.
I know what's happened.
Okay.
You're on your mobile phone on the Google Meet.
You need to be on your computer for the Google Meet and your mobile phone needs to be on
the Twitter space.
Okay.
You can't be on your computer for the Twitter space.
You have to do mobile on the Twitter space.
Unless you have some fancy technology and Android emulator, that is how we're going to be bringing
you high quality music, hopefully, toward the after party here of this Twitter space.
But yeah, everybody, while we're waiting for the rising sun, just 60 seconds here, let's
go ahead and retweet the room.
Let me know how you're feeling in the comment section.
If you have any questions, by all means, drop them there and we will make sure that all of
them get answered.
Okay.
We got a request coming through.
Okay.
All right.
I think we're good.
Okay.
Let's go back to the ominous Halloween mix.
We'll be right back.
Man, I cannot wait to bring you high quality music to the space.
Finally, we've been working on this for so long.
And finally, we've so close to crack the code.
We actually did crack the code earlier today.
You guys are going to flip when you plug this space into your speaker system and we just crank
some excellent tune for y'all.
Okay.
Fantastic.
Okay.
So David's in the right spot.
He's got his computer.
Now you go to your mobile and you tap that mic button on the bottom left on your mobile.
All right.
Here we go.
He's back.
He's back, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Okay.
I'm going to send you co-host invite.
And of course, FOMO Head gets a trusty co-host invite.
My FOMO Head.
Everybody, if you haven't followed FOMO Head, go ahead and do that.
He's probably my favorite spaces host out there.
FOMO Head does some fantabulous spaces.
All right.
We got it.
We got it.
We're ready.
All right.
And of course, follow Rising Sun.
They're doing some really, really cool things in the Web 3 space, which I'll get into right
about now.
All right.
Hello and welcome, everybody, to the Max Impact Show.
I am your host, Jimmy Cohen.
This show is all about empowering you, the change makers, to maximize your positive impact
in the world by leveraging the latest and greatest technology.
Okay.
With me today is David.
David is the CEO of Rising SunCoin and the Shadow Descendants NFT project.
So these are vampire NFTs, which are actually bridging the gap between DeFi and NFTs.
Previously, DeFi was restricted pretty much to the fungible token world.
Now we're able to do this with non-fungible tokens, and I'm super excited to get into how
he does that.
So, David, we have a tradition on this show, and that is to always, always start with why.
So when I say, what's your why, David?
I'm talking about your personal why, your inner drivers and motivators that empower you
to jump out of bed in the morning, to burn the midnight oil, to do all the amazing
things that David does in this world.
What is your why, David?
Well, that's our big go-to every day, actually.
So me and the team, our big why is, you know, we're just regular people.
We've all worked regular jobs, and crypto has attracted so many of us to bring change,
you know, bring change to financial situations, help families out, help families out who are
busy working every day that don't have time to maybe learn another skill or acquire another
job or invest heavy amounts of money in order to change the status of what they're doing
right now in everyday life.
So that was our biggest why, is how can we impact people?
How can we help people change their lives without having to do too much to what they're
doing right now?
I love that.
Bringing the crypto to the people and unlocking the potential of DeFi is a really, really cool
thing.
Well, I love it.
Now, I'd love to hear your story, because everyone has their own story of how they got
into Web3 and crypto, right?
I understand you come from a sales background.
Yeah.
How did you end up here?
So, I've been in sales, I would say, the majority of my life.
You know, I've worked in the mortgage industry, I've worked in the business loan industry,
I've worked in the car dealership industry, and then I got into finance as well.
And I've always was intrigued into trading.
I loved forex trading.
You win some, you lose some.
And, you know, it's a job on its own.
And when crypto came along, I mean, that kind of opened my eyes to many, many things.
The original OGs of crypto, the Bitcoin and the Ethereum and the XRP and all of those with
the potential behind it, really, really drew me in.
So, you know, I got into the crypto space, I began investing, began learning about it, and
I was still working my job.
Then DeFi started.
I started getting into DeFi.
And I learned very quickly that it's a wild, wild west.
It was the wild, wild west.
I was losing more than I was gaining.
And I wasn't trying to gain quick.
I was just trying to find, you know, legitimate investments to get into.
And time after time, I found more ways of losing than more ways of gaining.
So eventually, we decided, and a lot of the guys on our team come from different professional
backgrounds and had experienced the same type of, you know, qualities that I was experiencing
in DeFi and crypto and even in NFTs, too.
So we decided, let's build something that facilitates passive income right away, that helps people
in the DeFi space differently than what they're used to and helps people in the NFT space and
bring those two together, bridge the gap so people have multiple ways of obtaining passive
income and try to do it through a trustworthy manner to where they feel safe about it.
They can go to work every day and come home and say, all right, it's still there.
You know, I'm still gaining something out of this.
So, yeah, that's my story of how I got into it.
Respect.
That's super cool.
And I feel like that's a very common thread that I've noticed is that pretty much everyone
who's deep into crypto understands the huge potential in DeFi, but a lot of people are
hesitant because, as you said, it's kind of the Wild West sometimes where people are like,
is this safe?
You know, can I, you know, there's these honeypots out there and there's all these
traps, boogie traps that you can get into.
And so I love that you're trying to make that more safe and secure and ultimately trustworthy.
So let's dive into that.
How do you at Rising Sun enable this trustworthiness and this kind of level of safety to really
do things differently?
So when we began, you know, we said, let's, you know, obviously we've doxed ourselves.
You know, we wanted to make it as transparent as possible.
We wanted to relate it to companies in real life, but with much more potential.
And we started out with that, something simple of just, you know, let's all show our faces.
Let's let people know who we are.
Next step we took was our DeFi system can be traded on the Ethereum and the BSC network.
But we changed something.
Instead of people are used to receiving reflections more than usual in a native token.
So we decided to separate that.
We said, you know what, if you're trading on the ETH side, with the buying and selling
taxes, you'll receive your reflections in Ethereum.
It separates itself from the token completely.
So now your investment is receiving reflections in Ethereum.
Anything that were to happen with the chart, whether it goes up, whether it goes down, left,
right, you're receiving your dividends on the side.
And that's what's going to help the security aspect.
Same thing on the BNB side.
You would receive BNB as reflections on the BNB side.
So that was one thing because we wanted multiple levels of passive income.
So, like I said, I had gotten into NFTs.
A lot of the NFTs I had minted, really cool art, but a lot of them had no use.
Or the use case would be a couple of years from now because they were building something
so extravagant.
And who knows how long it would take.
So that was another issue we were trying to solve is a lot of NFTs are coming out.
They don't have a utility base.
There's no potential behind it.
So how can we help DeFi and DeFi help the NFT world?
Because, you know, they're separate.
You've got Discord and you've got the Telegram world.
So we created NFTs.
We did a small collection in the beginning just for our DeFi community.
It's a collection of about 750, I think.
And we wanted to test that in a staking method.
So we built a staking platform.
And we had our community stake those NFTs for Rising Sun Coin, set dollar amounts.
They could receive up to $300 in the course of 120 days in tokens just by staking NFTs.
That all worked.
It worked out perfectly.
So we said, you know what?
Let's open up the floodgates.
Let's open it up to the world, multiple communities, and release this line, the Shadow Descendants 2.0 line,
which will be coming out next month.
So with this line, it's going to be, one, inexpensive because we want to appeal to every type of investor.
So it'll be inexpensive.
And investors will have the ability to stake for BNB, USDT, or they'll be able to stake for Rising Sun tokens.
It's indefinite.
So they can stake from day one and they could leave it for two, three years and just claim their prizes as they go.
And it becomes an ecosystem.
It becomes an ecosystem in itself.
People are staking for Rising Sun Coin.
They're investing on this side.
They're selling, buying.
People are buying and selling NFTs and they're making passive income.
So their NFTs, from the time they mint them, with a matter of eight to nine months,
they've already got their initial investment back.
And now they're gaining basically their dividends, their profits from there.
And then they'll be able to sell them.
The next step after that is we're designing an app.
We're designing an application right now that will give people exclusive content.
If they have an NFT, it'll act as like a multi-purpose to where people can open up their portfolios,
buy and sell, invest easily off their phone.
For people like, for example, my uncles, they don't know anything of how to get onto DeFi and do all that stuff or mint an NFT.
So we're trying to simplify it for people to get into crypto and NFTs without having the potential of getting hurt or investing money.
And then it's gone after that.
So, yeah, a lot going on.
Brilliant.
I love that.
Wow, super cool.
You guys are like becoming the next Binance in a sense.
You got this app that makes it easy for people to dip their toes in the water.
And you said exclusive content.
What kind of content is that?
Is that like educational content?
Yes, yes.
So there will be educational content.
Educational content, there's going to be a lot of it that I do a lot of YouTube videos on our Rising Sun channel.
I do a lot of videos where I just get on and I kind of just talk about the issues and try to educate people.
You know, if they run across my video of like what to look for and how to differentiate scams from, you know, projects and things like that.
But exclusive content will give people, we want to merge and do a lot of partnerships with companies where we can offer, you know, discounts.
So we want to offer people chances of, you know, booking a vacation with a discounted rate or something like that.
So we've been taking steps.
You know, we created the LLC.
We became an LLC so we can kind of merge into the business of the app and kind of helping people financially as we go.
But yeah, the exclusive content will help people.
It'll be more of like a membership.
So the NFTs will serve as passive income, a membership, and kind of open up doors to other things.
Super cool.
I love that you're taking the leaps to educate people about this stuff because, you know, so many people really have no idea.
You know, I myself, I'm so in this world.
I'm still learning about nuances of DeFi.
And, you know, I try to explain this.
I had a family holiday recently, and I tried to explain what smart contracts are to my grandfather, who's like 94 years old now.
And I had to break it into terms of like, look, you understand a contract?
He's like, yeah, I got a contract.
And I'm like, okay, well, it's like that, but it's automated.
And he's like, what's it like?
You're locked into it?
I'm like, no, no, not necessarily locked into it.
And, you know, it's funny in this uphill battle, but I think, you know, it's kind of the onus is on all of us to do what we can to educate, to spread the word, to inform in terms that people can understand, right?
And so let's get into this.
What are some of the things that you teach on your YouTube channel and, you know, maybe like things to look out for to avoid maybe in the DeFi space to not fall into some of the pitfalls that maybe you've experienced or people you know have experienced?
Yeah, absolutely.
And it goes both ways.
You know, the DeFi space, there's a lot of, you know, stop signs and like, you know, red tape that you should look for.
But to me personally, you've got to look deep into DeFi space.
It's very easy to hype up a coin.
It's very easy to hype up a coin that has no potential behind it and get buyers kind of riled up.
So you have to look deep inside of it, you know, especially when a coin launches, the same pattern happens.
It boosts up and then it falls back down.
And in that time, you have the time to educate yourself is, you know, can you meet the team?
Are you able to voice chat with the team if you can't see them?
If you can't see them, is there a reason why you can't see them?
You know, like, what is the situation?
Are they doing regular voice chats?
You know, who's in charge of what?
You know, find out the whys.
You know, why is this project here?
What is the project doing?
Is there a problem they're trying to solve?
And those are just basic things.
You know, if you can't touch on those things, then, you know, there's an issue to start out with.
And those are the very simple questions.
If you can cross those lines, then you then you start looking deeper into, you know, the community.
You know, how many wallets are up top?
How much do they actually own?
You know, where's the damage going to come in?
You know, check the contract.
Is there a security protocol in that against, you know, people buying crazy amounts?
But the first few things are very important.
You know, the identity, are there voice chats and the why?
What is the project going after?
If it's we'll tell you later, then, you know, then you're kind of just flipping the coin.
It's a gamble at that point.
And, you know, a lot of things in the crypto space are a gamble.
But you should be knowing that if you invest money, they did say we'll see, you know.
And the same thing goes for the NFT space.
You know, art can be cool.
There could be a lot of hype behind it.
But are you willing to mint NFTs and let them sit there for months or even a few years?
Because the reality of things is the Bored Ape Yacht Club, what happened with them is not usual.
It doesn't usually happen.
And you can't expect to mint an NFT for, let's say, $200 and think it's going to go up to one ETH, you know, over the course of a couple weeks.
It doesn't happen anymore.
More than nine times out of ten, it's going to drop in value and you're going to lose.
So, very important to look at NFTs and ask, you know, am I willing to sacrifice some money right now and let it ride for a year?
If they're creating a game and they have legitimate reasons of doing it, a game can take anywhere between one to two years to create.
So, am I willing to wait that long?
And two, is there a way for me to get my money back if I really wanted it, you know?
And these are just important questions of the NFT space.
So, that's what we wanted to focus on is, you know, can we make our NFTs inexpensive?
We wanted to make our art unique, not like the rest of stuff that might be going on out there and kind of following trends.
And we wanted to give people a way to feel comfortable.
For example, if I spend $90 today on an NFT, I can stake it one week from now and start getting that $90 back.
And after that, I like the freedom of people being able to say, okay, I can sell a few NFTs.
I've made my money back or I can go to my job every day and know my NFTs are making money for me, okay?
Because NFTs are a really, really spectacular type of technology.
I mean, you know, we're talking about planting trees and having IDs and in another project.
And we're talking about using NFTs to create a passive income for people on this side.
So, there's so many things that you can do with NFTs.
And they all have their unique identity.
I can help the world over here by investing in this project and planting trees around the world.
And on this side, I can supplement my income and whatever else is going on in the space.
So, yeah, helping people in ways that NFTs can do are going to be spectacular if people take the time to educate themselves on it.
Yeah, absolutely.
And kudos to you for doing the grunt work to make that education happen.
And so, where can people find this YouTube channel?
I, for one, actually really do want to learn more about DeFi.
So, what do we type into YouTube to find this?
Just Rising Sun Coin.
Rising Sun, okay.
Yeah, Rising Sun Coin.
They'll find the official channel in one of the, you know, columns there.
And then once you click on that, I mean, we upload stuff every day like shorts.
But then you'll see the little episodes.
I've done maybe close to 15 episodes now.
And a lot of it's like two minutes of Rising Sun updates.
And then the rest of it goes into conversation, education, my thoughts on the market, you know, what's going on in the crypto space right now.
So, and like I said, it just, I hope it helps someone kind of learn the space as they get into it.
Super cool.
I do have more questions for you, but we are officially past the halfway mark, which means it is your turn to Shimona up here.
Bring your questions and we will get them answered.
If you are at work right now and you cannot come up and speak, then just drop it in the comments, bottom right.
I will pin any and all questions up here at the top and we will be here until all questions are answered.
So, much love, everybody.
Shimona up here to the stage and raise your hand if you have any questions.
I saw a bunch of hearts coming from Gabby.
How you doing, Gabby?
We got some bees up here, some social bees.
What's happening?
How we doing?
Maybe Gabby is in a place where she can't speak.
Feel free to pin.
Okay.
So, all right.
So, you mentioned before that you went in and registered this as a limited company, right?
Yes.
And respect for doing that and, you know, going through the formalization route.
And you also said that you've doxed yourselves.
And I think that this is a really important thing.
And then that was a wave of doxing that's happening, right?
Where a lot of founders are stepping forward and they're like, look, this is who I am.
This is, you know, trying to form things in a, you know, registered way.
You also mentioned securities before, or you said, like, security.
Like, I brought someone onto the show here who was, yeah, doing, like, refi, which is technically a form of decentralized finance, but more on the regeneration side.
And he actually went the extra step to literally become a security.
He's like, screw it.
We're just going to lawyer up and we're just going to become a security, right?
Is that something that you guys are planning to do in the future?
Or are there ways to get around that?
And if so, how can fungible tokens or non-fungible tokens, in this case, not get labeled as a security, but still have these kind of return on investments that can happen with DeFi?
So there's a couple things.
And we've been looking into all these things and kind of getting our ducks in a row.
Becoming a security or taking the Series 7 or all those types of things are good ways to prepare a company for what's to come.
Because, you know, let's say we are giving financial advice at a certain point or we are handling people's money or we do a type of a lending service with non-fungible tokens or, you know, a retirement plan or something like that where people can invest in on our app.
We would need those types of licenses, those types of approvals.
We're U.S.-based.
So, as you know, we're subject to many, many laws and rules.
And when we open up the app, the app is currently in development and it's not going to be ready until next year.
Like, it's going to be probably halfway or deep into next year.
It's an application.
It's a lot of stuff.
So, you know, we're consulting with lawyers.
We're talking to CPAs.
We're talking to tax attorneys.
We're talking to developers and we're talking to all these people that we need will need certain things, certain licenses before we let this app go live.
So, it's very, very important and getting into the financial sector, helping people set up their lives and let's say, you know, retirement plans or portfolios and things like that when we have an application, then, yeah, we would need special licensing.
We would probably expand the team at that point.
And then, as far as security, you know, that helps in securing the company, securing people's funds that we're abiding by, you know, SEC rules.
Because at the end of the day, you know, money's money.
We can use crypto.
We can use non-fungible tokens.
Non-fungible tokens are...
Oh, I lost you.
Are you muted?
Or can you guys hear Rising Sun?
Sorry, I might have cut out.
Maybe just tap the mic button or you could either jump out, jump back in, if need be.
Let's see.
Is that working?
Yeah, we're back.
We're back.
Yeah, go for it, buddy.
There it goes.
There it goes.
Sorry, I got a phone call.
That's what happens when you're on the phone.
Yeah, it happens.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you know, these are important things that we would need when we have the app.
So, the NFTs will act as a security protocol as well because NFTs are its own layer of security by itself.
Each one is not identical to anything else.
And the art and the metadata and all of that stuff makes it different than everything.
So, whether you're talking about security of the app and your funds or talking about becoming a security, yeah.
Yeah, when you become an LLC and you're United States-based, we would have to pursue those things, and we are, before we launch an app.
Okay, so that's going to be mid to end of next week, next month, year, sorry, when you actually launch that app and you're going to get the securities locked in there.
Interesting.
Yeah, it's quite the process bureaucratically, but it could be a necessary thing and allows you to, wait, everyone always says, not financial advice, do your own research.
And, of course, you should always do your own research.
But once you're security, does that give you the right to give financial advice or is that when you're a financial advisor?
I don't know when you can actually say, yeah, this is financial advice.
So, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, those are things that why we hire an attorney and why we do all those things.
But, yeah, once you take those Series 7s and you become a financial advisor, then, yes, you have the licensing.
You have the proper licensing to give advice to people on where to invest their money.
And, you know, certain things of our application will have those things, will suggest those things.
So, yeah, you do have the ability to do that when you have those proper licenses.
That's super cool because everyone is always like, NFA, not financial advice.
If you literally could get up there on your channel and be like, this is financial advice, guys.
Yeah, that's super cool.
Yeah, when you're able to do that, that's awesome.
All right, Dries, thank you for being patient with your hands.
I think you're tuning in from Holland, if I'm not mistaken.
How are you doing, Dries?
I'm tuning in from Belgium.
Ah, Belgium, that's right.
Just next to the land of Tomorrowland.
Awesome.
Welcome, Dries.
How are you doing?
What's cracking?
Yes, everything is all right.
Yeah, I had a question.
What's the mint price going to be?
And if there is already a date for in October when it's minting?
And also, why the Rising Sun has the name of the project?
I love that question.
I get that a lot, actually.
So, to answer your question, you know, we have a Discord live right now.
Mint is going to begin in October.
We are shooting for mid-October, you know, making sure everything testing is well done and everything.
As we get into October, we'll nail down an actual date.
Minting price, like I said, we're going to have it pretty inexpensive.
Whitelist spots, which you can go on the Discord and kind of achieve, will be around $80.
And then once we open it up to the public, it's going to be in the $90 range.
So, like I said, we want to make it inexpensive.
We want to make it comfortable for people that, you know, don't act as whales and want to get into this space.
The name Rising Sun, there's a story behind that as well, a story behind Shadow Descendants.
But when me and the team got together, we were kind of fed up with everything that was going on in the space.
I had lost money, again, in a different project.
I had made money in other projects, but I felt like I was losing more than I was gaining at the end of the day.
So, we wanted to create a project.
And the premise behind it is, you know, the sun rises every day and it provides.
It's never late.
It's always on time.
It's always showing up and it provides, you know, food, health, you know, vitamins to people.
It provides life.
So, we wanted to be that beacon.
We wanted to be a project that we're going to show up every day.
We're going to bust their ass.
We're going to work our tails off and give people, you know, something to feel good about.
You know, something that they can say, yep, sun's showing up and it's going to do good for us every day.
So, that was the name of that.
And that's the company as a whole is Rising Sun.
Shadow Descendants, you know, we were juggling the idea of what type of NFTs we wanted.
And the art really appealed to us that we should go with vampires because we gave it a little story, you know,
saying that these are vampires that travel through time and they're helping people understand the crypto market
and helping them, you know, achieve success.
They're vampires.
They never sleep.
So, it's like the crypto market.
Crypto never sleeps, right?
So, we thought vampires, Shadow Descendants, and we just ran with it.
Love that.
Yeah, the projects that have, like, interesting stories, like, that's like emotional or human currency.
It was in this book called The Story Brand.
And, like, when you can connect to a story, you know, beyond the logic of a brand or logically the value they're adding
but actually emotionally connect with it through this kind of storytelling, like, those projects tend to do pretty well.
So, that's awesome.
I noticed in the chat here we got Sergey.
He's dropped a bunch of links.
You guys can check out the artwork.
It's also the main link to join the Discord on Rising Sun's page there.
So, you can check that out and get on that whitelist.
But, good questions, Dries.
I like it.
I like it.
We got FOMO head.
Oh, and fun fact about the Rising Sun.
Japan is actually known as the land of the Rising Sun.
And, fun fact about Japan.
I lived there for seven years from when I was 11 years old to 18 years old.
I grew up there.
Yeah.
And, so, they actually have the highest adoption rate of NFTs compared to people who own cryptocurrency.
So, and this was, like, this is a while back.
It's probably higher now.
But, like, I think it was, like, last year at some point, it was 50% of people who own cryptocurrency also own NFTs.
And, this is, like, really just as NFTs are starting to blow up.
And, it's, like, that's a very significant percentage.
And, that's in the early days.
Now, it's probably well surpassed that.
Right?
So, I think maybe this ties into, like, the whole culture of, like, anime.
And, you know, oh, God.
People are getting married to cartoons in Japan.
It's crazy.
They have holograms and stuff, right?
Yep.
It's wild.
So, yeah.
If you want to get into that market, actually, someone hit me up who does this, like, news channel in Japan for NFTs and stuff.
So, and they want me to speak on their, I don't know.
Yeah, I'll try to speak my Japanese.
It's a...
Not bad.
I'm far from fluent, but I can have a drunken conversation if I need to.
All right.
Dries, is your hand up again, or was that still up from before?
No, I was asking also, I had a question about the rewards coming from the NFT, and it's 6% in BNB or something.
But how is this defined?
Is it weekly?
Is it annual?
Is it annual, and it was in USDT, Sun, or BNB?
Can you choose that, how it's done, or some practical questions, if it may?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, the 6% BNB and the 5% Ethereum are if you were trading the DeFi chart.
With the NFTs, if you stake them for Sun Token, then you would receive X amount, like let's say $50 or $100 worth of Sun Tokens.
And what would happen is, let's say you let them sit or you invest more.
Every time someone buys and sells, you will get 5% reflections in Ethereum off of that.
So, that's how that works.
With the NFTs, you can stake for Sun Tokens, if you wanted to play with the DeFi chart, or you can just stake for BNB and then USDT.
So, for some people, let's say they just wanted to stake for passive income and just receive BNB every single month.
They can do that.
On the Sun Tokens, it's based off volume.
So, if you stake for Sun Tokens, every time there's volume surge, up and down, buying and selling, you'd be getting reflections depending on volume.
It could be hourly and it could be every few hours, just depending on the rate of volume at the time.
And that depends on how many NFTs you have.
Can you do like, I have 10 NFTs and I want 5 NFTs to make the BNB and 5 NFTs to make the Sun, who makes the ETH?
Yes, exactly.
Correct.
That's the beauty of this, is each NFT, you can do whatever you want with it.
So, I was talking to my team about this the other day.
I said, the beauty of it is if you have 20 and you said, yeah, I want 20 to get me BNB and I want 20 to get me Sun Tokens.
And after a few months, you can shift it.
You can say, all right, I want these guys to do all this.
You know, Sun Tokens going up.
I want a stake for this or BNB is going up and I want a stake for this.
So, yes, you can pick whichever way you want your NFTs to stake.
All right.
Thank you, man.
Sure thing.
Super cool.
Right on, right on.
Gabby, I saw a bunch of heart emojis.
Are you with us?
You got anything you want to chime in here?
Or should we throw it to the FOMO head?
What's happening, FOMO head?
How we doing?
How we doing?
We're doing amazing.
You know, every time all of your guests, man, I realize I am absolutely not the smartest person in the room and I'm absolutely not the smartest person on the stage.
Learning a ton.
I'm just like I said, I'm just taking it all in.
I'm sitting here.
I'm doing a little bit of work for the restaurant and I'm just taking it all in.
It's incredible.
So, once again, you outdid yourself on the 101 show, 101 show episode.
Again, I'm just in awe of your guests.
I'm just sitting here learning, my brother.
Just sitting here learning.
I have nothing to add because I'm just a student.
I'm just like sitting in the classroom.
I'm like, oh, that's awesome.
And I can say, yeah, that's great.
So, I'm just enjoying, my brother.
Just enjoying.
Thanks.
It's always a pleasure having you here, man.
And, yeah, I like how, you know, you're always learning.
You're always taking in concepts and breaking them down very simply on your spaces for people
to understand about the merge, about all these different things that are happening in crypto.
FOMO Head, like I said, one of my favorite, if not my favorite, Spaces hosts.
So, check him out if you haven't yet.
Great stuff.
So, Rise and Sun and David, what is your ultimate vision for this project?
You know, you got this app that's coming out.
You got the NFT project, like, let's say this is crazy successful, sells out.
Like, where do you want to go after the app?
Or what is the app going to evolve into?
And, yeah, what's your ultimate vision for this project?
Well, the ultimate vision is to change lives.
Like, we really, really want, I really want to get to a point where people are messaging me
or they're calling me and they're saying, you know, I was able to take this vacation.
I was able to pay off this.
I was able to put a down payment on my house.
I was able to quit my job and start a business that I wanted to start.
I was able to, you know, put my kids into college or whatever they want to do.
That is the ultimate goal behind it.
You know, we want to make this an establishment.
We want to make it a business and something that people can see in real life.
So, you know, crypto and real life is kind of, they're not working side by side yet.
You know, hopefully one day we can get there where there's enough side by side that we can
bring it into the real world and it's, you know, accessible to everybody of all ages.
But, you know, our ultimate goal is to kind of penetrate every single market, which means
the metaverse, you know, we want to introduce our NFTs into the metaverse.
The metaverse is growing.
A lot of you know that a lot of big corporations, Walmart, Nike, Under Armour, all of those companies,
they're getting into the metaverse.
They're building in the metaverse.
We've got, you know, celebrities that have taken a huge shine.
Artists have taken a huge shine into the metaverse and the NFT world.
And I believe that the future is going to bring to where you can go to a football game
and to purchase the football game tickets, you're going to purchase NFTs online.
And that way it's going to be secure and you can just walk into a game and kind of
scan your ticket from there.
But just being able to take our app and kind of expand it to where, like you said before,
you know, you know, Binance has their own thing going on and all of these exchanges have
their own thing going on.
But we want to kind of push it a little further.
Yeah, it's going to take time.
But, you know, no company has done it overnight.
And I feel like anything that will be rushed will fail as quickly as it's being rushed.
So we want to get to a point where we're able to run our app and help people plan for the future.
You know, give them multiple options of how they can obtain passive income, give them lending options.
You know, we're looking into how we can exceed the expectations of people with banks and how we can
integrate NFTs and lending with real estate and kind of help people in the approval process in a different way.
So our vision is far and long.
It surpasses five and ten years from now.
So, yeah, I mean, if you can picture what I'm picturing, it's big, you know, and this is where we start.
You know, our NFTs will be around forever and they'll be traded.
And I hope as we go along, we can release more lines that can be also adapted into staking and kind of just grow the ecosystem from there.
Love it.
Yeah, that's really, really cool, man.
I know that, like, there are a few platforms now that allow you to kind of, like, get loans with your NFTs as collateral, right?
Like, you put up your NFT as collateral.
Is that what you're talking about when you're saying loans or is it beyond that?
It's close to that, but beyond it.
You know, we want to touch markets to where people can get approved in different senses.
You know, self-employed people can use their NFTs to establish real estate and things like that.
So we want to go a little bit deeper into it.
You know, the fact of lending can start there, but getting into, you know, the real estate business and things like that down the line, that would be nice to get into.
Really, the core of everything is helping people understand and use passive income versus what we've known in the old days.
In the old days, all we knew is you needed a boatload of money, you need to put in the stock market, you need to put in a mutual fund, you need to put in your 401k, and hope by the time you retire, you've got a nice lump sum to pay you for the rest of your days.
Reality of things is majority of people run out of money before they die, sadly.
They've got to start making moves, basically.
And for me, like, cryptos, NFTs, that's what's going to help people.
And they don't have to be young to do it.
Starting now and gaining higher percentages, I mean, our NFTs are going to have some really crazy percentages.
I mean, I can say it, you know, for our BNB side, each NFT is going to be able to generate $10 worth of BNB for each staking period, okay?
You don't have to unstake them.
You literally stake the NFT, and you can claim them over time.
So imagine if BNB appreciates over the course of time, and you haven't touched this BNB that you have been acquiring.
Or same thing with Sun Tokens.
You've been acquiring Sun Tokens over the course of one or two years, and now you have this nice nest that you can do anything you want with.
You can invest in a new project.
You can take it and take it into your life and do whatever you want with it, basically.
And that's the freedom that we want for people is that passive income.
Natural freedom.
I like it.
And just what we were saying before about the unbanked.
You know, there are so many unbanked people in the world, particularly in developing countries.
And to provide not just an equal and accessible, but actually a better solution.
You know, I get paid in cryptocurrency, and I pay my stuff also in cryptocurrency.
Because why the hell would I use a bank?
What?
It takes three business days.
There's all these fees involved.
It's instant, peer-to-peer.
Got my mobile money in Tanzania.
It's that quick.
And it's just way better, you know?
We'll go through Bitcoin.
So, all right.
Stereo, my brother from Manudamudda.
You got your hand raised.
What's crackalackin'?
How you doing?
Yeah, doing great.
Can you hear me?
Hold on a second.
Loud and clear.
Oh, snap.
But we are at the top of the hour.
Is it free NFT o'clock?
Yes.
Hey, Stereo is going to give out some dynamic NFTs to every single person in the room.
If you want to be a kind person and make sure your friends get a dynamic NFT, go ahead and
send them a DM.
Send them the link.
Let them know if they join the space right now, they can still get a free dynamic NFT
that can change.
You can influence this NFT.
It is not static.
You're going to get that completely for free.
And by the way, every single Web3 project that I launch in the future, you're going
to get a loud list because you own one of these NFTs.
This is like your POAP for being here with me on the very special day of my 100th episode.
I love you all so much for being here.
It really means the world to me that you came through and supported for the 100th and the
101st.
So, love it.
Stereo, did you have a question or are you about to give out some NFTs?
Oh, I could hear you before and then you exited and came back and now you're muted.
You got to tap that mic button, Stereo.
Yeah.
Got some rainbows in your mouth there, buddy.
Maybe you want to exit and come back again.
I don't know.
He's got a rainbow stuck in his mouth.
Stereo!
The people need their free NFT.
Okay.
You know what?
Gabby, we love having you up here on the speaker panel, but if you come up as a speaker,
it's time to speak.
You got something you want to say or add to the conversation?
Oh, Gabby.
There's some silent people coming up here.
Just want some attention on the speaker panel.
Okay.
All right.
It's fine.
I'll allow it.
I'll allow it.
It's okay.
Stereo is also right.
If you do it mono, it's all good.
I think he has connections problems.
Yeah.
You know, he's in Germany.
It's crazy.
I'm in Tanzania, okay?
East Africa.
I have better internet connection.
This guy in Berlin.
Berlin is such a developed city, and they got all these internet problems.
I don't know what's going on there, but every time I get another call with this guy, it's
some kind of issue.
It's maybe with the energy problems in Europe.
Yeah.
Huge energy problems.
We were just talking about this before, right, FOMO?
Yeah, they got energy problems.
You got Merkel.
Before she went out, she went all green.
They're shutting down their nuclear power plants.
Their lights are flickering.
They're the new California, if you know what I'm saying.
They're what California is going to become.
Flickering lights.
Flickering lights over the city.
A bunch of flickering.
Hilarious.
Oh, so one other thing I do want to touch on before we wrap up and head to the After
Spaces party where we play some hopefully high-quality music.
There's a lot of testing going on in the background, I think, is this whole concept of
learn to earn.
I think this is a really fascinating concept.
By the way, everyone here, if you want to learn the most high-demand skill in technology,
and not only not have to pay a huge college degree, but actually get paid to do it, you
can get $150 or even $250 to complete a course in Solidity, right?
Because every Web 2 company is trying to become a Web 3 company right now.
And so there's a huge shortage of people who know Solidity.
If you go to Decade, D-A-C-A-D-E dot org, that's D-A-C-A-D-E dot org, you can learn
to earn Solidity.
So that's pretty cool.
But they're not the only ones, right?
Like, Binance has learn to earn.
It's not that much.
You earn, like, what, five bucks, a few bucks.
Coinbase has their own learn to earn concept.
I know you're planning to integrate education into your app.
What are your thoughts on learn to earn?
I like it.
I think it's a very good way to help people educate themselves.
Obviously, it's not much, but it's something.
And for someone just kind of getting into investing, I think it's great.
I would definitely adopt, you know, the same concept as that.
It's a great idea.
It helps people learn for reward.
You know, it's a human thing.
You know, you get rewarded for kind of learning, and it gives you nice tests.
I've done it on Coinbase to check it out.
I've tested it out.
It's really nice.
You know, you learn stuff about things that you've never heard of before.
And just to expand your knowledge in crypto is very, very important because, trust me, when you think you know, then you learn you don't know.
So, you know, I highly recommend, you know, anybody does that stuff, you know, through Binance, through Coinbase.
It's a lot of fun.
Obviously, with our app, you know, we'll do rewards, too, you know, for education.
And, you know, the way I vision it is, you know, to access certain points, it would be nice to have that education or a short video or kind of take people through the slides before that.
So, yeah.
Super cool.
Yeah.
And I think the economics behind how Decade does it is, like, they partnered with Celo.
So, Celo is a sustainable stablecoin blockchain, layer one.
And, like, so, like I said, there's a huge shortage of developers in the world, right?
But if you get certified and you submit your assignment, now you actually know solidity, then now that's, like, a huge kind of recruitment pool.
So, I think that's how they kind of pay Decade to be that educational partner for them.
And I think with Binance, it's, like, well, you know, you're learning really about things that will lead to more business at the end of the day, right?
And I know they have, they even make it fun.
Like, there's this thing called Wordle.
You know, funny.
I met a guy in Tanzania.
You'd think Tanzania would have very limited crypto knowledge.
Not true.
So, I met this guy.
He's teaching me about this stuff in crypto.
Like, so, Binance app, if you click, like, see more, there's so much shit in there.
And so, one of the things called Wordle, it's kind of like, it's kind of like Words with Friends.
I don't know if you guys ever played that game, Words with Friends.
Yeah, yeah.
But, yeah, but it's, like, based on words that are in their article, right?
So, like, they will release an article about crypto news.
You read that.
And so, one of those words in the article appears in this Wordle game.
So, now you've got to see these letters and find the words and whatever.
It's a fun game.
I earned, like, what, a dollar?
It's not much.
But I'm so much more engaged in it, right?
Because there's that little incentive.
It's nice, you know?
I mean, I spent, like, God, my parents spent at least, like, a quarter million dollars on my university degree paying international fees.
And I'll forever be indebted to them.
I think I'm just going to have to gift them crypto at some point because my dad's never going to buy it, unfortunately.
It's an uphill battle.
But, you know, they pay so much money and you're still not even that engaged and you're paying that.
Whereas, if you can earn something, you're like, whoa, there's so much more engaged in it, right?
Even if it's a tiny bit.
Go ahead, Dries.
You got a question?
Yeah, more a thing I want to say about the learn-to-earn thing.
I'm also in a project where you have an NFT and where it's about education, about cannabis.
And you can learn also there's a great artist behind it.
And they're also giving lessons about how to make the art or how to improve your skills with the programs.
So, yeah, there's a lot of NFTs or doing things like that.
And I really like also, yeah, that the education part that you can learn things from it.
And soon you can also stake the NFTs and maybe earn some passive income from it also on top of that.
So, it's a really great thing to see.
It's called the Baked Universe.
Maybe you should look it up.
That's all I want to say.
Yes.
You know, I have heard of Baked Universe.
Those guys have been in here quite a few times.
And I think they actually might even be coming onto this space.
I know the NFT space is very 420 friendly.
Is cannabis legal in Belgium?
You know, I recently went to Italy and I didn't realize it's legal there and in Paris.
It's like, but only like 0.5% THC.
So, it's really like medicinal at that point.
It's kind of the CBD stuff.
No, no, no, no.
It's not legal and it's not legal in Paris, I can say, in Germany also.
It's only in the Netherlands.
In the Netherlands, it's just, yeah, you may do it, but in strict ways and even the coffee shops have strict ways.
They can't move or they can't farm wheat.
They can't sell or they can't buy it.
It's crazy how it's done, but it's always one eye closed and one eye open that the regulation is practiced.
So, no, but yeah, I like the 420 friendly communities and that's why it's also they have a comic that they make besides it.
And that's also a great thing where all the NFT holders can make a vote on how the story is evolving and going.
So, that's also a very nice thing to have.
So, yeah, it's great things that happen in this space and I like to check it all out.
I also give you a DM, Jimmy, with a YouTube video of a professor I know about the CO2 impact on the nature and the trees.
And it's like in a short story, it's like the CO2 makes the trees grow faster and do everything faster.
But on a certain point they stop because the soil can't give them the nutrients to do it anymore.
So, yeah, we all have it in our own hands and can plant more trees so they can grow faster and they can get more CO2 recycled into nitrogen.
So, yeah, that's a great thing that I hear this and I want to also follow this tree project.
It's very nice.
Super cool, man.
Yeah, thank you for sharing that with me, Dries.
I appreciate you.
I love learning about this stuff.
Well, we're here.
We're here to learn.
We're here to grow our minds, to feed our minds and make more impact.
Learning is earning.
Go ahead, Stereo.
You're back.
Hey, how's it going?
Yeah, my battery died a short while ago.
And I just wanted to let everybody know I just shared a link in the chat.
It leads you to a link on my profile.
And that link on my profile leads you directly to the whitelist page.
You can just visit the website.
You have to make sure your MetaMask is on the Polygon network because these tokens live on Polygon.
And then you can just prepare your wallet for the whitelist by clicking the connect button and the get whitelisted button.
If you want to, you can edit the message in our little preview NFT by paying one Matic and sending a new message.
And yeah, you'll support the devs with it.
And at the same time, spread the word, whatever you want to spread.
And I just wanted to let you guys know that on freshfriends.netlify.app, you can find the whitelist site.
And you'll see all the newest updates on my profile on Twitter and also on this website.
All right.
Amazing, man.
But when you say whitelist, they are getting a free NFT, though, right?
How does that work?
They're getting whitelisted in order to mint a free NFT as soon as the mint gets opened.
And I'll open the mint within the next week.
And you'll be able to claim your tokens as soon as a little bit of promotion has been made.
And I've talked to more people about this.
And you'll be able to mint your token around the week.
And they'll be revealed as soon as they're minted.
And you can, at the moment, change the message on the Foodie for Family website and update it to whatever you want.
It'll stay for at least an hour.
But after one hour, everybody else can change it again.
Okay.
Okay.
So they will get the free mint within the week.
How will they know when it's ready to get the free mint?
Is there like a sign-up?
You just got to check.
Check my Twitter profile and check the website.
You'll be notified.
I can also send out messages through your Ethereum address.
But most people don't check their Ethermail yet.
It's not too casual yet.
Right.
Okay.
So everyone, follow Stereo.
Tap the bell icon on Stereo's profile so you get notified when that goes live.
But also, if you save that URL, check back in a week, put that in your calendar, then you'll be able to get your free mint.
Okay?
The support to the devs is optional.
Of course, that's always a nice thing to do.
But, yeah, you put in there so you're on the allowed list to get a free mint.
Fantastic.
Happy days.
Oop, getting a call here.
All right.
So I don't actually see it in the chat, man.
Do you know how to pin posts to the top?
I can pin it to the top.
You said you posted it recently on your profile?
I posted it on my profile, and I posted it in the chat.
I can pin the post on my profile real quick.
Yeah.
Well, we can actually pin it up to the Jumbotron here.
Free mint whitelist.
Okay.
Sweet.
All right.
Free friends.
All right.
Cool.
There we go.
I just pinned it up to the Jumbotron, everyone.
So you just head to that link there on the far left of the pinned Jumbotron.
All right.
Get that allow list.
And then within a week, check back in the same URL.
You'll be able to get your free NFT.
All right.
And yeah, it's dynamic, and you can change the words.
And remember, this will get you allow list into any Web3 project that I launch in the future.
And I'm going to be launching quite a few.
I'll be launching quite a few.
The tree gens is in the works and a few different partnerships.
So great stuff, everyone.
Head to that linky dink.
Yeah, go ahead.
I get a warning.
Ethereum-facing detection warning from fruityfrenchfriends.netflix.app.
So it's on the warning list.
I see.
Uh-oh.
I just want to share it.
Okay.
Thanks for sharing.
How do we avoid that, Stereo?
Um, get registered on more websites.
I didn't verify the contract yet.
I have to go verify the contract real quick, and then that should solve itself.
I just got finished working and just uploaded it as soon as possible.
I didn't verify it yet.
I have to still do it.
And then around an hour, it's going to be verified on Etherscan, and yeah, then it should no longer.
There's also a message that this cannot be accurate and inaccurate, so it's complete.
I didn't read the whole message because it's very big, but so yeah, maybe it's just too soon.
Yeah, these warnings are usually when the contracts aren't verified.
The MetaMask checks an Etherscan or a Polygon scan or whatever the contracts are, whatever has the contracts verified already.
And since it's just uploaded and I didn't verify it, it doesn't know if the contract is the exact same file as the file I'm telling it it is.
And I have to verify that, and as soon as it's verified, that should stop.
Right.
All right.
Well, cool.
I mean, yeah, up to you guys.
Obviously, if you want a minute now or once that's verified on Etherscan to not have any red flags.
Stereo, you are doxed, right?
Do I have permission to dox you just so everyone feels more safe and chill about it?
Yeah.
I mean, the contract doesn't do anything wrong.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So, by the way, guys, Stereo used to work at PayPal.
He's on my core team of developers based in Berlin.
His name is Aaron Ayuk.
Okay.
And so, great guy.
Huge amount of integrity.
Would not be doing something sketchy.
I'd personally vouch.
But if you guys want to wait for it to get on the Etherscan, what not to not give any warning signals.
And it is cool that you have those warning signals, Steree, for things that aren't on Etherscan.
But, yeah.
All good.
Episode 102.
We can pin it up again when it's gone through all those things.
I know he was kind of putting this together quickly for the space here today.
But, yeah.
Totally up to you guys and how you want to play it.
But, yeah.
Stereo, I really appreciate you doing that, man.
And, yeah.
Thanks for putting it together for the peeps.
And so, by the way, technically, how do I make sure that people who get this NFT get allowed listed to a future project?
Like, how does that work?
Does it just check their wallet, see if they have it, then they can do this?
Exactly.
How does that work?
Exactly.
We just look at the wallets.
We can see if he's still a holder of that NFT token.
And as long as he's a holder, that's all right.
Yeah, that's what's so nice about it.
Yeah.
We can simply detect anything directly on-chain and verify if somebody's owner or not.
It's like a club membership.
Did I just get rugged?
Yeah, I can't hear you guys.
Oh, it looks like the host is having connection issues right now.
Oh, damn.
So you can hear me.
Oh, yeah, I can hear you.
Oh, I can hear rising now.
Yeah, I can hear you guys.
Yeah, I think Jimmy's having connection issues.
That's what I said.
Is he in Germany or is he still in Tanzania?
Oh, my goodness.
I love you guys.
But on top of the message, the warning message, you can go continue at your own risk.
And I connected and I got some green sign or something because I couldn't see the complete screen with my mobile phone.
So, but I think I'm whitelisted now.
So, yeah.
And I joined your discord, Rising Sun.
So I'm complete.
Let's go.
This has actually been a very, very one of the best spaces we've done.
So I really appreciate you guys.
I love the energy and love the community that you guys have.
Hey, yo, mic check, mic two.
Can you guys hear me now?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Go, go.
You can.
Oh, amazing.
I just swapped devices.
My Android freaked out.
So we're on the iPhone now.
All right.
Excellent, excellent.
Fantastic.
This is what happens when we go hard like this for multiple hours here.
Sometimes I think my device overheated or something.
But, guys, it means the world to me that y'all came through for this very special 100th episode.
Thank you so much for the bottom of my heart.
We do this six days a week.
That's right.
You can see me in the next episodes.
Though the times may vary.
It's usually around the same time, but it could be an hour later, hour earlier.
So tap the bell icon on my profile to make sure that you get notified for the next episode of Max Impact.
We're bringing excellent guests, making impact in Web3 six days a week, like I said.
And, yeah, okay, without further ado, Rising Sun, are there any final words of wisdom that you want to leave the audience with today?
Honestly, this is it.
I mean, you know, spaces, I think, are very powerful.
And helping each other, you know, educating each other is the best way to stay safe.
You know, the space is moving fast.
And we have to, you know, we want to take our time and learn.
And this is the best way to do it is talking to you guys and, you know, learning about other projects and helping each other out.
So, you know, I say keep on doing what you're doing.
And I hope to see you guys again, actually.
I love it.
Yes, David, you are always welcome here on the Max Impact Show to come up as a speaker any point in time.
I would welcome you back here.
And same with all of you who have come through today.
It really means a lot that you came through.
And, yeah, excellent.
Everybody, if you haven't followed the Rising Sun yet, go ahead and do that.
And check out the Discord to get on their allowed list.
Check out the educational content they got going on YouTube.
Because, you know, if we all continuously feed our minds, if we all connect with people in the space and continuously grow every single day,
ultimately we're going to be able to make so much more impact than if we're just living in silos, right?
I really believe that, you know, together we're more than the sum of our parts.
You know, sometimes one plus one is 11 sometimes, right?
Because we just can kind of multiply our impact when we're collaborating.
And I love how these new connections are forming with hummingbirds, connecting with the technology.
Isaac, there's someone in the comments saying that as well.
And, Dries, you're sending me information.
I didn't know about carbon in trees, probably.
So, man, I really appreciate you guys.
Much love to all of you.
Let's end here on a tune called Harmony by Closie.
Closie is a pretty cool female artist.
She's using nature sounds but also electronics.
It's a very special thing.
If my speaker will work, hold on.
It says we're connected.
All right.
That would have been – oh, here we go.
Volume is a thing.
Okay.
Oh, I know.
It's because of this.
Okay, got it.
Thanks for this space, man.
Very good space.
I love it.
And I should say everybody check out the baked potatoes because they're going to launch on it also.
So, it's a bridging connection, collaborating in every way.
So, yeah, man.
And that's also something I like.
And that's also something I like with the bees and this wanting, getting together and collaborating and making us one big, strong community.
It's going to change the world.
Love you all, guys.
They're going to shut up.
We love you back, Dries.
The love is mutual.
Thank you so much, brother.
Appreciate you.
Always a pleasure having you up here on the speaker panel, my man.
And, yeah, I hope to see you in the next one, guys.
Much love.
Go ahead.
Check it out.
Read it.
Whatever you want.
1,000, man.
Let's go.
I can tell you exactly where.
900 days.
I see you there.
Love your vibe, man.
Love your enthusiasm.
Love it.
Love you back, brother.
Love you.
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