MAX IMPACT EP. 293 Growing the #ReFi Movement with @ReFiMedellin 🌳

Recorded: May 23, 2023 Duration: 1:32:21

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Let's grow, let's grow, let's grow CCC in the house, just warming up the space here
open it up and the first one in was the carbon counting Mr. McGee.
We got a Kyoto friend in here, go organic 420, love it, alright, the Kyoto fam is strong,
I did a poll, like which chain should refi NFTs be on, the top out of the four options
was other, and then other you're supposed to drop it in the comments, which chain should
refi NFTs be on, and the Kyoto team was pumping in there, I think it was just the team, I think
it's just like a community, haven't even launched yet, there's a lot of positive, hey the Kyoto,
I was just talking about Kyoto and another Kyoto, Kyotarian comes in here, Teresa what's love
Teresa, I'm sending you co-host invites, Shimon up here to the tippy top and let's grow,
wag Quentin, oh yep we're gonna play some wag, Quentin wag is a great little saxophone DJ as we warm
things up here, much love Teresa, we got civil monkey in the building, we got chimene, I saw
you yesterday too, welcome back tuning in from India, refi media here in the house, I'm sending
you the co-host invites and the speaker invite as well, much love everybody, let's all exercise our
rights to retweet, all of you guys can retweet and that means we can shine light on the movement of
a generation and so everybody tap the retweet button, for your convenience I pinned it to the top
what we must retweet, so just tap that, tap the retweet, how we doing Teresa?
Hey Jimmy, how are you? Fantastico, really really good, great and grateful,
it's a vibe, it's a vibe, it's Taco Tuesday, it's also uh, what is it uh, thick trunk
Tuesday, thick trunk Tuesday is trending guys, you should post a treat of a wide
bass tree and then who is that behind refi median, is it uh, is it Juan, we got
refi median
okay so I think refi median was ruggin, could you hear him? I could not hear him at all,
he comes back up, all right, all right, all right, please spaces gods do not rug us today, oh Teresa,
if you could accept co-host invitations, this would help just in case the space does rug us,
it will not completely shut down the space, there we go, there we go, Teresa's co-hosting,
Wilte's in the building, Shimon up here, Wilte we got Amor in the house, much love Amor,
okay, refi median I'm gonna send you co-hosts too, that way we got two co-hosts in the place
and we don't get rugs, all right Juan are you with us buddy?
oh you gotta you gotta unmute that stuff, oh there we go he's co-hosting now, Wilte how you doing buddy?
oh can you guys hear me? I was AWP, no I'm here, I'm here, you're good, you're good,
I was AWP for a moment and I was getting back to the phone to get the mute button,
AWP for those that don't know there is a um or not AWP, AFP, I'm sorry what am I saying?
well no there used to be AFK and that meant away from keyboard, right, that's when you're working
on your pc, when you're here in Twitter's faces and you can't you walk away from your phone it's
AFP, away from phone, of course, yeah, you like that, away from phone, yeah, AFP, I like it, okay well
now you're now you're just FP, you're in front of phone, yeah yeah I'm good, I'm good, but uh if you
need another co-host Jimmy I'd be happy to okay yes please please thank you I hope you don't get
around here I'm on my wi-fi a little bit, I do I did get Starlink but it's there's a little
interruption there's like something maybe a branch or something in the way but uh cool cool cool
Refam Indian are you with us can you unmute thyself in the bottom left hand corner surely you've been
trained for this during get coin radio you know how to do unmuting come on now all right I'm gonna
give this a couple minutes while we for Refam Indian play a tune pin some things up top everybody
please retweet and we'll get this party started momentarily okay pin one
we need to understand right now that because
let's grow ladies and gentlemen retreat room
all right great to see my topple family in the house as well love it love it okay Refam
Indian page are you here can you unmute yourself you've been ample time to figure this out
here's the challenge technical difficulty well that's why that's this is why ladies and gentlemen
we have co-founders co-founders step up when the others fall down they pick each other up
and collectively we are that much stronger I'm so glad Teresa is with us here today Teresa
how are you doing are you good hey everyone good how are you all right you can unmute
ladies and gentlemen you can unmute I'm here you're rugged just join from another page it's fine
oh I know finally finally I am trying to connect there there you can speak
okay the earpuds are connected okay good all right he's got the earpuds all right amazing
amazing all right ladies and gentlemen well if our mics are working then uh then let's
get this show on the road shall we here we go here we go
these beings carefully guarded an aspect of consciousness called light
at different times these guardians of light met and worked together in the different
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these beings are you and that time is now and each of you knows in the deepest portions
of your being that you have come here for a purpose you are beginning to feel what may be coming
hello and welcome everybody to the max impact show this is the live space to show that's all
about empowering you the change makers to maximize your positive impact in the world by leveraging
the latest and greatest technology with me today are the co-founders of reef by medellin we got
edessa we got juan so for those of you who don't know reef by medellin was the number one voted
refi node on get coin this last get coin bait around and they are growing the refi movement
over in medellin and i'm excited to discuss with everybody how together we can collectively grow
this movement of regeneration in web three um you guys know the tradition that we have on this
show that is to always always start with why someone asked you what is your why i'm talking
about your personal why your inner drivers your motivators will get you specifically out
of bed in the morning and helps you to burn the midnight oil let's go ladies first tereza
what is your why how would you describe the why of tereza i love that question so i would say
probably that it's just like uh viewing around people that want to make impact because i love
this community and i want to like say big thanks to you jimmy also for running these spaces because
always a pleasure to interact with people in this space and really passionate about impact
like both social and environmental so i would say that for me it's it's definitely impact and
um i have a background academically and and something similar to the impact but i saw that
you know like with blockchain and technology there's a lot of great things we can do so yeah
that's that's my why i love it i love it we got redense shawn in the house a bunch of regents
sub genre and i completely agree you know being surrounded by people who want to make the world
a better place fuels me with energy i love being around you guys so much and that's why i'm showing
up in these spaces day in day out i love it and i completely connect with that way all right uh no
pressure to follow that refi median kwon how would you describe the why of kwon how would you describe
why yeah your why like what motivates you if you would describe like why do you do all the
amazing things that you do what is the reason oh man i love natural that's what i what i do that
i love natural i have been working and i have been working in in the government trying to
solve a lot of these problems but government is is freaking collapses i think it's very difficult
to solve this problem so i decide to move to a different space to try to solve this and what i
that's what i am working in the in green digital guardians project and that's why i decide to
to start this node with tereza with alejo alejo is here maybe you can send an
spiking invite to alejandro and emo is not here and seri here is not here
but we together decide to move forward trying to solve this problem imagine
i love it yes i love for nature um and you know everyone has a different um
like point that connected them to nature a lot of people feel disconnected from it and
you know whether it be spending time out closer to nature or certain experiences that can definitely
connect you to to mother nature and various different things um this can kind of catalyze
it i'm curious to maybe explore that as well but um tereza you said you have a background
in some of these these social impact things could you tell me a bit more about your
background and your journey i understand you're now also involved in topl which is also having
a social impact refi focus we had topl on the show as well great to see an audience
topl um so so tell us uh tell us a bit more about your story tereza how did you get here today
what has your journey been like so far yeah sure i think many people in the web space actually
have a similar journey so i have a master's degree in something called defense development
and diplomacy and you know that's kind of the degree where you talk about international
development it's kind of related to international studies or peace studies you talk a lot about
for example medellin right because medellin was the city in the 90s that was the most dangerous
city in the world and since then it has gone through amazing transformation so these are some
kind of the things that that you discuss studying this degree and after that or kind of during during
that journey i realized that i don't see myself working in the traditional impact space when it
comes to kind of like the the big dream of working for the u.n or something like that because
you see that there's a lot of bureaucracy you see that there is a lot of corruption you see that
there's a lot of inefficiencies in general and i think after after going for that i i kind of
just like you know having that illusion of yeah like this is what i want but realizing it might
not be that great um so yeah i ended up working in digital pr after that and i was kind of helping
startups that were impactful to create like really powerful narratives and i started learning
more about blockchain and you know i was a very big skeptic at first because at the time let's say
2017 2018 you heard a lot about bitcoin and uh you know like the kind of like yeah it's just
the thing that people want to get rich and all that but i i never really saw the the impact of
it until much later and then i started talking to my friends about it because i had to work more
with cryptocurrency clients and you know there were people that were telling me like hey but
it's really there's a great use case for the things that you're passionate about and i was like
like what you know and it started a lot of conversations and i started learning about the
full potential of blockchain and i was mind-blown because i thought it was much more than just like
uh you know like memed coins and uh and monkey nft so yeah i kind of switched fully into into
blockchain last year i started working at topl which is a whole protocol by itself which was
specifically built for for impact so yeah that's kind of my journey so far
amazing yeah uh that's similar for me like i i saw bitcoin in the early days and i don't know it
seemed a little bit interesting but i'd never really went on that rabbit hole until nfts came
around because they were like directly making a positive impact and once you see that connection
you can see all the different ways that the broader underlying technology can you know
add extra layers for transparency they can help fundraise they can build communities it's really
like communities on steroids to this whole nft thing and it's just a great way to to grow
movements and there's so many different applications and once you see that i think it's done so many
wonders to onboard people into the space how about you Juan what's your story you said you
you care about nature um and it's an important thing to you you were working with government
earlier how did you how did you hear about web3 how did you start dabbling in it i know you got
the digital guardians as well um so so yeah how did you first hear about it and start
start getting involved in the web3 space okay say so fast sorry because i think there is a lot
of noise here but i was in a meeting with john so i just run out of battery and i have to
find a quick spot to connect i mean a subway man okay in a subway it's like the full subway
you're in a subway right now okay well i mean i was always like involved with natural because
i i grow surrounded by farms and a lot of this stuff so i i study a lot of things and one of
these things was a agricultural engineer so i work as a agricultural engineer and i work with the
for the managing local government and for antioquia local government like antioquia is the big
the department imagine is the city and i i work with them trying to solve some problems about
nutrition in the campesinos with the campesino families so we try to teach campesinos to
make their own like auto auto sustainable farms inside their houses and i also work with the
government trying to protect the forest and doing like a lot of projects around that but i mean as
Teresa said there is a lot of like corruption sometimes is it's not corruption but it's
inefficient a lot of stuff surrounding the government so it's very difficult to to work for the
for the for preserve the ecosystem so and beside that i was always like interested in technology
i also study that's one of my other careers that i have studied technology and
code and systems so i always i am always like the agricultural engineer involved with the
technology because now nobody of my partners in the in the university wants to be involved in
technology but me i am always involved with technology so i i started with three like
trip mining ethereal and exploring some defy protocols and stuff like that
that's why that like one day one one friend wants to to preserve a land
we will get a problem because people just get inside the land and code the trees
and we went to the government and we say hey someone is getting inside the land and
calling the trees and the government just do nothing the government say you need to take
the photo of the people you need to anticipate the person and man but is is your work it's
not my work i am coming here to just to make like a public alert that somebody's going inside
the turbine so we we saw that and we we said hey we need to do something with this kind of
problems that's why we decided to start with the green digital guardian project
and starting with the green digital guardian i just become to know this stuff around
we try all these like different ways of of financial system and like take it to the ecosystem
environment so i just get in love with that and that's like the history and the wealthy local
was just like the the last the last step in in this rate
awesome uh yeah okay great so that's how you kind of got involved in it and then so now the last
step is is refi nodes so passing the baton to you Teresa i want to hear about refi nodes
you know this this concept of a um a network state around the world if someone has no idea
of what a refi node is how would you lay it on them what is a refi node what are you trying to do
with refi median yeah so i think it comes from the idea really that um a real unit of alternative
finance today is a community right so we can try to regenerate the planet on the global scale
but really it needs to come from the communities underground always right so i think that's this kind
of how uh the idea of refi local nodes where it was started and i would say in medin and i want to do
like a little promotion if you have not been to columbia or if you haven't been to medin it's
really a beautiful city and it's an incredibly green city it's actually called the city of
eternal spring both due to its like beautiful beautiful weather but also we have like an
annual flower festival there so it's just like a really beautiful city and uh for the past decades
especially since the since the 90s as i said it's been really cultivating this culture of innovation
so i think it really fits well the regenerative ideas well because it's always kind of trying to
uh you know like come up with solutions for better urban development uh for better civic
participation for better mobility across the city and all that so i think it's it's an amazing fit
um i actually uh got involved with refi spring earlier this year and i got the grant from refi
spring so earlier this year in march we hosted the first refi event in medin you know just like an
introduction to refi we highlighted some projects doing refi work in columbia and kind of since
then i got involved with refi now a little more um i also participated in the roundup and i would
encourage anyone that's like super interested in writing about refi and you can always ping me
because i am super passionate about creating any kind of refi content so yeah get involved with refi
now uh that's what i did as well and uh kind of from there uh i connected to juan and we decided
uh kind of just quickly before the good coin grants deadline to to spend this all so
we are still figuring a lot of things out but we are super super excited again medin is a great
place to do some refi and we already have a lot of activities planned you know like from uh collecting
some uh garbage in parks to planting some wild flowers and trees and there's there's a lot uh
we have planned so yeah stay tuned amazing welcome up to the stage go go down and yeah go ahead okay
before we speak maybe uh i just want to like clarify like this this idea of local nodes
it comes from refi dao you know refi dao is like a dao that try to to help like to spread
the world about refi and the fields community they they build is the refi local node in
lisbo so they just decide to to make a grant and open the the comocatory for for different nodes
to to start like doing the same that the local node in lisboa is doing i have the opportunity to
being i am in lisboa now i have the opportunity to being in the refi lisboa meeting the last week
and they they are doing like kind of activities like trying to map the different the different places
in lisboa that are like in ballbed with refi so you can just like open the map and find
good spots that like restaurant that go directly from the from the farmers or you can find the
the the local stores you can find they are trying to to map this so it was like a great experience and
maybe we can do the same in refi machine and in different nodes and and
earlier i said to you that i have to find this space because i was with
with journalism and we were we were talking about how to connect the nodes like for example the refi
max to lumina the san jose the the coca rica node and how to to start working like together so this
is like the idea of a mexico state like to have nodes in different cities and to connect
to connect the nodes
got it yeah thank you for shining some light on some of those nuances as well
will be my brother from another mother go ahead man hey what's going on i want to add a little
bit of color to the conversation because i actually have a connection down immediate
medellin and then if i can ask a question of our guest speakers that would be amazing so
i have a friend down in medellin who runs the stem cell clinic down there but he's also
into crypto and he's been a node operator before i don't remember the specific blockchain that
he's operated nodes on but he's been a node operator so this may be of something
that he has an interest in especially if he can become more integrated with that localized
community and then my question is um i know that there's been as of late a few and i don't
know prospectively like geographically how far away bogota is but there have been some conferences
some blockchain conferences in bogota so i don't know if you guys have had any experience with that
or attended them or not um i don't even know if it's close or within travel distance we're
got so yeah if you have i'd love to hear your perspective on that okay if i mean
bogota from my gym by car is is far away it's like six hours but bogota from my gym by plane
is very easy to work and i don't get like the the question that you you made but
i mean in bogota there is a lot of conference but we also have a lot of
conference and crypto activity emerging so but i mean if somebody in bogota wants to
start like a local node in bogota maybe we can't this person can't get in touch with us
and we can't try to help to set up the local node in bogota if you want
yeah i would i would just add to that quickly uh perhaps that last year was really amazing
for columbia because we had defcon here in october that was wild um real i think it was like
six seven thousand people that came to to defcon um that was amazing for columbia also like putting
it on the crypto web for sure uh then there was eve bogota and even medin just like a week after
that so there was a lot of activity and i would love to invite everyone to follow ethereum columbia
on twitter because i know it's one of the first communities in latin america like first ethereum
communities in latin america that wants to become a dao soon so uh yeah lots of interesting uh
crypto web pre-activity happening in columbia for sure super cool that is a you're saying that
before that median was previously like the most dangerous city um how is it how has it changed now
and why do you think that transformation went about yeah so actually maybe juan can give more
context than i can hear uh because i'm originally from the czech republic and have lived in
columbia for the past five years uh but from my perspective maybe from the international
development perspective it was a lot of urban design decisions and kind of very different
administration approach than prior to that there are also some kind of mobility changes like uh
medin is the only city in columbia as far as i know that has uh its own metro and all that so uh
yeah there are decisions like that that happened also yeah like the focus on innovation uh i
guess a lot of like crime focus policies too um and when it comes to the situation today again
i would highlight the innovation focus there is an organization called rutaene which is a
governmental organization basically like a startup accelerator it's a really beautiful building and
they invite like different different speakers i think they have a few blockchain companies
as a part of it as well so there is now a real focus like organized structured coordinated focus
around innovation in the city so i think that's a really great thing
yeah jimmy as as let's just say like medin in the in the 90s or in the 80s
was medin suffered by by the public school war war and the those cartels but
sign this this war like finish and made you try to focus like to be an innovation hub an artistic
hub and by the way made in juice receive like i don't know how to say that klesa maybe if you
can help but medin has now the the the the titles like the lego title of innovation district
that that means that medin receive more funds for for innovation directly from the from the
from the main government i mean the government in columbia is you have the central government and
the central government distribute some funds to the departments and departments and distribute
some funds to the cities but when you have like a special district recognition you you get more
funds and you are you have the ability to to spend these funds as as you want i mean you have the
the decision you can take the decision by your own as a city
okay interesting so the funds are being dispersed and these refine nodes around the world are
kind of like the representations of refi coordinating we'll delve into that
go ahead subgenre by the way oh yeah we're at the halfway point which means friends it
is your turn to shim on up into the stage bring you questions turn to a round table discussion
go ahead buddy
hey hello good good afternoon fellas so um what will or one uh refined veggie is trying to explain is
that columbia like as a refined as a move as a wave uh as a collective move uh trying to
regenerate the earth or the land here columbia uh we don't really get support from the central
government say you know the the government uh in general so what we do get is that the government
from mexico and in combination with uh the major from mexico as well i mean they promote
green movements like big time like i will live in mexico since 2018 and they really
you know they really showcase interest in in privy the city as from a green aspect so they
begun deploying deploying like cycle ways and so on so that's why one is trying to say that from the
central government you don't really get support but from the major from magina the governor from
atiokia that's where the funds can come from and the kind of projects that columbia and refi
ambassadors can present to them okay good to know okay so it's something and jimmy
no jimmy i think there's a lot of value there what's up genre said right because that's very
similar to what we're experiencing here in the states as well right we get more support for what
we're doing here on blockchain and participating with blockchain technology than we do from our
national government right we know how how unclear it is of how to operate in the united states right
now and we're just waiting for that clarity and i don't know that we're going to get it anytime
soon but uh it sounds very similar right because we have state municipalities and localized
governments that are more progressive than uh the movement at the top so i just thought that
was an interesting observation yeah and one interesting thing is that i mean columbia has
some special districts like kartohana is a port a port district bota is a an administrative district
district and maginee's innovation district it's just the the laggier we get this this title
and with this title this title means that the central government has to send money
to the district and the district have hands free to do what to whatever the district want with the
money you understand me that maginee is going to receive a lot of money from the central government
and magine has the has the the possibility to decide how to spend this money and normally
the history of maginee says that maginee manage really good the budget of the city
so i was trying to reply to people in the comment section um
yeah okay so good to know about how these governments can uh can be of support um but
ultimately i think it's going to be up to like the people to come together and support these
things and i think the nodes are so they're ambassadors of the refi movement they're organizing
their i mean refi dao has merged with refi spring those of you don't know anyone who wants to throw
an event around regenerative finance there are ways for you to get grants through refi spring
so tereza was saying that she actually got funds to do that and that helped spark
this community to form around events are amazing for connecting people around different concepts
and ideas and it's so cool that the refi movement is supported through refi spring to do that
but then beyond that i understand that there are other plans of a token so could you kind of walk
us through how the refi node token um is going to make an impact like or like what's it going
to do what is the is it a governance token is it a something else is it going to be related to
regeneration somehow help me understand what the the kind of roadmap is looking like for where these
nodes are going in terms of tokenization and what's what's going to happen with the different
nodes okay go ahead no i i think this is like a misunderstanding that is i have been
hearing like a lot of times because as i said before i i was with john like one
or one hour before and i exactly make the same answer and he said that uh neither refi though
and neither any refi node has plans to launch a token the the only plans that is like in the
in the meantime is to do activities about refi doing this kind of activities that there is a say
just think of garbage plant some trees plant flowers maybe we can raise more funds
for from sponsors as for example from topol from v cream from selo and we can do more activities
but there is no plans to launch a token jet
okay so maybe it's not like a clear plan but it was um you know floated around as ideas
from people and maybe that's like down down down the path right nothing immediate and by the way oh
um i had a call as well with john and we were talking about well this is actually originally
through just twitter comments but we had an in-depth chat about it and you were saying like
you know small scale regenerative efforts but coordinated across the world can really add up to
big things you mentioned picking up plastic or planting trees um so you know uh tree gens
has an ai tree counter right and so by getting like you said sponsors we can verify that people
have planted trees around the world and hopefully gamify it so through like a leaderboard and
different prizes etc um we can uh we can make it fun hopefully reward people so that's something
that we're in talks as well right now as a collabo between tree gens and the different
refi nodes is to have um this way to like reward regenerators and coordinate people across the world
to do different regenerative works and uh track it and reward it and and make it fun make it
you know competitive in a fun way um go ahead willte yeah i was just gonna say can you send
me that information um on refi spring the grant opportunities because you know well maybe you
don't know the kingfisher's media right which is the company educational media company i just
deployed onto the blockchain um part of our process and part of building our community
wallet is through grant funding right so exploring any and all opportunities but one of the initiatives
that's important to us is getting into the localized communities because we sit at the top
of the funnel as kind of a first touch point of greeters welcoming in new travelers into the space
and then uh arming them with responsible education um and getting them to a point where they can go
navigate and explore this world safely so any help you can do in that area would be much appreciated
awesome yeah absolutely happy to connect you with the powers that be uh at uh at refi spring
and by the way yeah anyone i know i will happily introduce to you regens who want to make a
difference in the world hundred percent anytime and i know you've got good intentions willte so
always happy to do that um and i think we should all do that for each other is like open these
doors because together um you know our networks are really strong you know when they're all open
to each other and same goes with whatever kind of uh resources we may have connections too like i
have it i have a database of um 10 000 angel investors 12 000 web 3 investors and 4 000 impact
investors and it's all completely for free in the tree gen dao discord so if you click the link in my
bio um you can scroll down a bit and find the discord link there and uh and then bada bing bada
boom you can get to get those free resources i give up that stuff out for free i think refi median
was first and then we'll get to sub genre man i i usually raise my hand because i mean uh uh we have
we we say to you like so many times just come to magic man we are we are gonna be super happy
to sponsor uh uh an activity planting trees or maybe not have to be imagine i i i have told you
about um about neko clay there is some mangroves there is a mangrove space and you can plant
mangoes neko clay is no magic but i mean refi median can sponsor like activities around
antioquia because antioquia is the parliament man so uh if it's good for antioquia it's good for my idea
amazing so usually so well i'm happy to plant any kind of tree but usually i'm focusing on
mangroves because they sequester so much carbon i know there are mangrove trees in columbia
um but um usually mangrove trees are by the coast which means they're usually in like government
uh areas so do you know what the place coast antioquia has coast right right right right
so my question was going to be um do you know what the process is to get like planting permissions
from we don't need planting permission it's in a land owned by some family so you can plant freely
okay so so it's private land then it's not government land it's private land but it's
surrounding a mangrove it's if if somebody is from columbia is just neko clay and cienaga de la maribonda
all right amazing and uh dude i'm so freaking down to go there uh then the last thing uh unfortunately
so my mother has ptsd post-traumatic stress disorder so when i say i'm going to columbia
uh and she sees things about you know murder rates and stuff like that she gets kind of triggered
and so how can i reassure my mother that if i go to midiad or columbia you know i think there
are certain areas there's maybe pockets of gangs and violence and stuff like that but if you go to
certain other areas you're fine right how would you recommend you know making a concerned mother
with ptsd feel calm about me going just don't tell don't tell her that you are going to columbia
and when you when you are right to columbia just send pictures and you can say hey mom i
columbia is beautiful nothing is happening to me
it's beautiful it's beautiful place i'm already here nothing you can do all right go ahead subjana
subjana or dragon we need your input here man you had your hand up
i'm sorry i was muted so i think what refined agent is trying to do is just get you to backpack
here at columbia and see how beautiful it is that's one of my two points that i have to make
for make stand for right now so my first question uh it's actually my first point
it's actually a response that someone asked a while ago beginning of the space um
um uh if uh we're having crypto conversations here over at bolota and you have a much more
refi over a managing we should do kind of kind of a merge or a gathering point uh i don't know
a two three day meet up uh to see how we can collaborate and work on refi and crypto technologies
as well um i think that's something worth mentioning because i've seen some web free
startups here at bolota and which is the capital city and that's something to consider my humble
opinion that was that's my first point and um my second point uh i've taken advantage that
firefly shire is here because i want to mention okay refi managing guys um
you have all these beautiful places towns uh hikes trekking uh nature valleys uh
everything you have everything over imagine so why not regenerative
traveling it doesn't sound something you will consider as part of your uh refi proposal
sorry could you eliminate what it means by regenerative traveling
yeah like uh firefly shire presents uh a concept which is on fire from regenerative traveling
and that's something worth because managing there's a lot of backpackers there's a lot of
facts paths just a lot of travelers imaging and in the whereabouts towns so i think uh
regenerative traveling will be a big thing uh to consider as for your proposal in the
in some git coin round or you know the proposal in general that you want to do that's for refi
that's that's something big in my opinion because i've been a backpacker for the past
say five six seven years so regenerative traveling will be i'm imagine columbia will
be the first to raise the hand for that if we all work on the same direction my opinion
i love it i love it okay we'll get back to you if i'm gonna get it oh okay go ahead are you in
bollata so gay
you still muted buddy subjana are you in bollata
hum are you in bollata
yeah i do reside at bollata but i live in meijin for about uh two three years and i live in some
towns as well i love it dude it's just beautiful people is beautiful everything's beautiful
nature is beautiful ah it's paradise as well you have to visit and it's not super dangerous trust me
okay not super dangerous okay so yeah just say to jimmy how is my jimmy jimmy don't trust me
maybe he's gonna treat you bye oh dude i'm so i'm so freaking so i would be there yesterday
right i just gotta commit i just don't wanna freak out because she does have btsd right so extra
fragile so i just gotta like reassure right so so far my strategy has been uh it's in pockets
there might be some you know violets but it's in an area it's not everywhere and you just got
to know where to go and find the right people and then blah blah blah and so i pretty much had
her had her like on the right train of going okay maybe that's fine and then my neighbor is
funny i'm in this tiny ass little town in australia right now there's literally 160 people in the whole
town it's crazy i'm middle of nowhere right now and i went to my neighbor and he's actually from
columbia and it's where this like had this barbecue and uh and so he was like i was like hey can you
try to convince him i'm like hey can you convince him other than it's actually you know
fine and in uh in columbia and he's like he's like yeah it's dangerous but you know it's also
really beautiful and i'm just like bro you're not selling it well man like that's not a good strategy
come on help me out here i was like shit uh so that didn't go very well so i got some work to
do to get back to where we were because now it's kind of like you know i'm saying okay fire
flesh eyes up here what's going on fire flesh are where exactly in columbia are you how far are
you from medellin and shine some light on eco travel all right hey jimmy we were wondering if
your mom's listening in on this space because then it won't work to not tell her you're not
that you're not going um uh this is lilya and asher we're actually not in columbia we're in
costa rica very similar though just a little different my back my back my back it's all good
a lot of projects to remember um yeah okay cool but yeah do you shine light on the eco travel thing
sure yeah i guess um we we're one of the few people really talking about like regenerative
travel but it's basically taking sustainable tourism and sustainable travel and taking it a
step further so not just maintaining or keeping things as they are but also using those travel
dollars to regenerate and make it even better right so um and for us in addition to making
the environment even better um we also include ourselves so we regenerate ourselves so our
trips you know and and what we're trying to build is something where you can come connect with nature
uh feel like you're refreshed and connected again um but also help regenerate with your
trip so we're doing things like planting reforestation and um like social projects and things like that
education so so it's basically the concept of regenerative travel is kind of like a new thing
but it just really means taking it a step further from sustainable to where we're actually regenerating
love it love it love it um and i loved your space with uh wild chain uh before as well that was that
was really nice so yeah sustainable is a flat curve degeneration we're destroying nature it's
going down regeneration is going up we need to increase because there's been a lot of degeneration
before us and so now is the time of regeneration we got to get back to where we were
and uh and that's super cool i would love to go to costa rica as well at some point
okay juan go ahead yeah i have my raise my hand raise because uh when subgen
talk about regeneration travel that's what i i ask him if he lives in bota because i mean i have
been living in imagine my whole life and we have a lot of problems with the tourists i mean it's
grateful to have tourists in your city exploring the next year feeling that columbia is not dangerous
but when you have a lot it's it's also a problem so we suffer this problem in for example in taganga
in santa marta we suffer this problem in in santalena there is a big forest surrounding
emerging and now it's full of carvings so we need to we need to take some action in this but subject
i mean for the moment we are just starting the node so we are just focusing in this small activities
and we are just trying to to show to the people that we can do great things for the environment
and we want to raise more money and yeah this this idea of of really interactive
tourists is a really great idea but you have to develop so in this moment it's not our focus
but really we are gonna we are gonna have this idea like you know in a let's say like a
roadmap version two or something like that sweet cool so i want to do a quick little once around
so that everyone can touch on this main topic of today which is growing the refi movements i want
to hear everyone's input on this how can we grow the refi movement or any movement for
that matter right how do you grow a movement and by the way just earlier today a couple hours ago i had
a call with the people behind cowspiracy and sea-spiracy i don't know if you guys have heard these
climate seen these climate documentaries or what the health but they're massive on netflix and
they're making a new one called tree-spiracy and i might be in it which would be super sick
so and the reason i brought that up is because they were saying this is basically a it's not
just a movie it's it's a advertisement for a movement that's what they want to say this is an
advertisement for a movement is like film so to the question how do you grow a movement well you
create really captivating film they can you know draw people in make them super aware of the reality
and then empowered to do something about it so that's one way that's one way to grow a movement
i think there's a bunch of other ideas that we can uh toss around so let's do a quick little
circle here so we'll see what are your thoughts how do you grow movement well it all starts with
awareness raising awareness forming campaigns raise awareness making sure people have responsible
information i'm not going to say wrong or right because i don't think that's contextually
appropriate but making sure people have responsible information and then providing them avenues and
pathways of how they can be involved um so yeah those are just some top top of the level thoughts on
on my end great thoughts from a educational informative media company and web three
um that's great stuff kingfisher you're doing great things and yeah so that information can
come in many forms right could be video could be a written document and then that last step that
you mentioned of how to take action is a really important one as well so good stuff what are your
thoughts how do we grow the refi movement some deep questions here jimmy first here but i would
say that to get people invested in the movement we need to let them know that they and their opinions
and actions matter because that's what my favorite part about the refi movement is that like we
always felt that on the individual level there is nothing we can do and we just kind of have
to go with the flow that uh web free and everything is giving us the tools to you know
like matter and coordinate within our communities and uh great impact so yeah just uh let people
know that they matter they matter they're heard listened to involved i like it you also said
invested in the movement i think that's like one interesting thing of what gets people really rally
behind different communities as well and you could say that's like a piece of the puzzle to the
movement is like in nfts like you buy into something you're like financially invested in
in that community as like a small you know whatever it may be they're more affordable they're crazy
expensive ones but like just by doing that and then wrap it you so it's like another level of
investment right and then maybe you put it as your profile picture for example that's like another
level of like being invested in something with your time anyway that's a tangent but yeah being heard
that's that's beautiful and very key for people to feel comfortable putting their ideas out there
which is which is great for involvement all right fire for shower what are your thoughts how
do we grow the refund limit um i would say we definitely have to get people to care which can
be hard because a lot of people there's going to be a group of people and they're probably all in
this room these type of people who will intrinsically care they care about the environment they want
to take care of it but other people will have a harder time kind of ranking the environment
high on their list like maybe they're going to live like 30 more years and they don't really
care if the sea levels rise a foot or not even a foot like they don't care if it gets a little
warmer so you have to figure out how to really motivate people and i feel like money is a good
way for getting people into refi if we can financially motivate them somehow but also
emotionally motivating them so for us we want people to come to our retreats and our
the firefly shire and feel connected to nature and feel connected because when people feel more
connected they're more likely to care so you can kind of tap into people caring by you know
getting them more connected to nature and they feel more involved and then it's easier to get
them on board with things that can help regenerate the worse yeah beautiful yeah
through experiences if you go live in the firefly shire that's one experience i think ultimately we
are an accumulation of our experiences right so certain experiences can come in many shape or
forms whether they're physically going somewhere watching the films you're saying like they these
things like affect who we are and then ultimately how we care about things so yeah good input all
right some genre i know you had your hand up before i'd love to hear your input on this
question uh if you really want to touch on something else you can but uh how can we grow
the refi movement
yeah to me the the main points to i'm gonna sound like a d gen and uh go with the onboarding word
onboarding people like uh travelers say travelers are everywhere they're into technology um
they're just all over the place me as a worker weyer and backpacker for the last
seven years through central america and south america i got to meet all kinds of people so
it's people that's definitely willing to invest in these kinds of technologies but first they must
get involved in you know they must be onboarded it sounds like d gen talk but anyways that first
and second what work away us work away is do is that we get involved with the local communities
it's something that we must always get into i mean that that was that's what moves when you
leave when you are there you just you know you share and beautiful moments and so on
but what would you leave to those local communities it's ultimately what what you know it's the
value that you actually add to the place itself that stays for good man so those are my two points
and could could both on board people and leave an impact either place beautiful yeah no onboarding is
not just d gen i think that's that's universal and and i think that's that's this is kind of
what their local nodes are about right is refi has to be contextual to the local needs and cultures
and you know all the different uh it should be bottom up not top down so yeah i think i think
it's great what's going on with the dudes go ahead juan how can we grow the movement hey no i mean the
onboarding is really important and this is one of the of of our mind activities we are thinking about
doing and we are thinking about impact onboarding like people come and do the activity the
the garbage collection or planting trees or planting flowers and at the end we just
teach them how to open a metamask wallet how to secure the recovery phrase uh we keep them
with five dollars for example and they they did uh activity good for the environment
and they receive a reward so they can spend their reward then they understand how how blockchain
works and we have more blockchain users and these blockchain users get to know the blockchain through
through a refi activity so they they're gonna be like more tempted to to get involved in refi
this is a kind of activity that we want to do
right on yeah thank you man onboarding you can cover many forms and then yeah having that uh
that clear pathway into learning about is great thing last but not least mr mcgee how can we grow
the movement i mean i feel like this is a difficult question and all of us are working
on our own versions of the answer um i like to try to think about trying to convince people to
change how we measure success um now that's not going to be easy but i think that you know once
we have some people doing that it's easier to get other people to join in uh so i just can
ask everybody in this room to consider you know what you consider success you know think about
that and add something that is helping others to that measurement of what you consider success
helping the planet as a measurement of success um we obviously are in a very monetized world but
if we add these measurements and we think about these measurements uh we can improve them
i think it all will take time um i think onboarding is a huge part of this i think that we also need
to as much as we need to look up to investors and philanthropists and things we also need to look
down we need to look at the people who need these low-end opportunities who have needs in their lives
that we can help fulfill with this technology um there are i have many many friends who live in
refugee camps and in rural areas uh you many of you guys have met john he's a great guy uh i have
many more friends like him who when they're given an opportunity they try to take advantage of it
and being new to crypto that opportunity is what drew them in like i know that i spent a lot of time
with john teaching him how to use crypto uh and evergreen coin was his first cryptocurrency only
because we don't have a ticket to ride we pay you to participate whereas most crypto projects are the
other way around like you need to pay the price to get involved i feel like we need to build more
you know structures that reach down and help more people i feel like that will help us
grow the movement exponentially beyond what crypto has ever seen before
most definitely yeah you know not everyone has smartphones that's that's the reality we've got
to come to grips with and maybe that's going to be a matter of time until that changes but
there are also smart people that are um having uh ussd um exchanges where it's like so ussd is
basically just like even on a non-smartphone um you can just type a code like star something something
something and then you can right now in kenya i'm sure john you can you can shine some light on
this you can use empeza you can use airtail money and it's um all just through this interface
of the simple menu that drops down just all through your sim card right and so you can
connect that within cryptocurrency without even needing a smartphone people can participate in this
stuff and um and benefit from it um because yeah ultimately we got it on board everybody
um how you doing john we're just talking about how we can grow the refi movement
um i'm pretty sure john is the number one touch tree proponents uh that we have here on
creative twitter um besides myself maybe who started he is he is hey what's up tree gen
yeah thank you so much mr dimi how are you i'm good brother great and grateful great to have you here
um yeah i'm very glad yeah so what i can say about the topic of the today is
what i know since me working together is very important then we should trust what we are doing
you know if working together as a community working together as a group of people we need to
trust what we are doing and we need to love what we are doing if you trust it and we we work together
and we we we consult everyone everyone i think the movement can work in peacefully again you know
if you love the work you're doing that thing will be met you are daily what you can do with your
person so trust love and be honest for what you are doing is very important thank you
amazing amazing these are some wise words that we got from john today for those of you don't
know snap a photo with your hand on a tree take a selfie if you're doxed they just just
found on the tree if you're not doxed um but use the hashtag touch tree not only will this
make you happier uh it is scientifically proven by connecting with nature by the way people were in
um i think it was i want to say norway or someone like that they they studied people who
were like staring at a tree and i'll try to bring up the the uh the science later and
try to like reference the studies and whatnot but it actually made them more joyful and like
you know people were less anxious and there were these positive benefits from spending time in nature
and so just doing that is great um but uh but yeah but share it with other people right we
want to grow the movement so you know snap a photo touch and tree and then boom um it's
just like encouraging people to connect more with nature and if you're more connected with
nature hopefully you'll start to do something about its regenerative efforts so we got some wise
words from john and that is um leading us swiftly to our final segment and that is
words of wisdom so this is where we share one core message one nugget of knowledge if you will
that you want people to know more than anything else so this could be a lesson that you find
impactful in your personal life this can be some some words of encouragement or something that
you might want to pass on to your children or your grandchildren um you know just some useful
impactful knowledge let's do it once around and then we will conclude the space um let's
start off with the wise educational media company in the web threes buzzing around kingfisher
wilty hit us with your words of wisdom brother
yes be a sponge keep your head on a swivel learn something new every day
and achieve to be one percent better than yesterday i love that i don't know you guys know i think
it's like 37x or something like that if you're one percent better every day and you're compounding
it you're 30 times more than 30 times more effective at something by the end of the
year so that really adds up great advice be a sponge every single day feed your mind
because this is the tool that you wield as you go to make impact is uh is is info you got to be
working smart not just hard loves it okay fire flesh iron i think there might be two of you
there so if you want to share two words it's just me right now um i think last time i said
something like oh drink water or something like that um i think i'll i'll i'll say um you know
we we're all doing a lot and we do have to get a lot of stuff done but it's really important to
find time for ourselves um so that we can maybe meditate or take a walk or like you said touch
trees um we really you know take take that time even if it's five minutes it makes a difference
um oh and here's ash um with her words of wisdom okay words of wisdom um we're all humans
and we're all trying to figure this out and do your best that's my words of wisdom okay there you go
love it great words of wisdom love hearing your voices all right uh mr mcgee hit us with the words
of wisdom brother the world needs you to do what you can with what you have to just build a better
future for all of us okay i thought we were gonna get something totally different there
and like oh there we go we circle back just timeless it's timeless advice i love hearing it
with a little spin there very good all right sub genre hit us with your words of wisdom brother
i think um if muhammad doesn't go to the mountain the mountain comes to muhammad
if we're here at mejean or columbia in general we have two things we have refined and nature like
crazy like you can gaze to the outmost and see all this nature that we can work on we have that
and we have people coming like crazy like travelers expats all kinds of people that
want to come here so we must grasp that and make this the best regenerative or refined note
in the global south we can easily do that i mean i'm not meeting like uh pretty below any other
note but if we work hard here at columbia that's for the global south we can send out and you know
be a real international recognized uh refined note absolutely love it hashtag don't tell your mom
we're coming to columbia all right go ahead john hit us with your words of wisdom
all right john i guess you kind of already did but additional words of wisdom perhaps
or maybe we should go to chi-chi-menae welcome up here chi-menae great to have you this is our
final segment of words of wisdom do you have something you can share some nuggets of knowledge
some words of wisdom for us all right thank you so much hello everyone i'm so glad to be
here um um getting the information from everyone i think every day we might also try to
dominate the planet and globe but um try also to protect our climate and everything you must
try to be leaders and i think it's okay thank you absolutely leadership i love to hear you're
very welcome here in the mass impact spaces great to hear you up as a speaker as well
all right i think we're swiftly swiveling over back unless john has additional words of wisdom for
us two one hey jimmy i am running out of battery so okay i am off bring a battery pack that's the
words of wisdom now go ahead i am always in trouble so no just just to say thank you for for
for the space man and i just want to say that everyone is welcome to to join us in the telegram
group in the ref image in telegram group we i mean Teresa me Eamon Sergio and Alejandro we are only
that like the people that take the initiative but we want more people to join us so we want
people to join us to say hey i have a group of people that want to do a impact activity
okay let's do let's put some effort together and do the activity um yeah every everyone from
a dean or people that are just traveling and spending some days imagine you can just um do like
regenerative labor i mean and spend some days imagine just planting trees
around my gene or picking up some garbage or i don't know just let us know that you are coming
to my gene and we can plan an activity together i love it sure
what was that
i was telling Juan to keep me in mind since i reside above the top
my best friends right now so i might pass by do it do it up fam that's what's beautiful about
these nodes too is like there are so many cities now that you can go and you'll just know that
there's like a community of regens there that are just ready to like do an activity or have
an event or just jam on these ideas together um it's a beautiful thing man it's a beautiful thing
and it's great to see you thriving to that number one slot during good coin um beta in the in the
refi node and uh and yeah man congrats on it congrats everyone on the team who did that and um yeah if
anyone's thinking about getting into good coin make sure you hit up earth based soul that's at earth
based soul so that you can join the guild this is a solopont guild um there it's you have to get
vetted but if you're legit and you're wanting to make an impact then you can be a part of the guild
and then potentially get a slot on git coin radio um which uh yeah i think four of the top five
in the climate solutions rounds uh we're all like uh git coin radio hosts so and it just means you
good people but also yeah putting yourself out there it's good extra boost of exposure so
do it up do it up ladies and gentlemen but of course you got to be doing the thing you got
to be doing the real work on the ground make it an impact and uh and that's what i'd love to see
so thank you so much for coming through regions i want to draw your attention to the jumbo tron here
okay so crypto wales nft has got a space coming up in uh 18 minutes 15 or so minutes so um
basically what this is is there's a bunch of amazing regions who do something every single
month so every single month on the 22nd they're calling it monthly earth day so to participate in
monthly earth day you don't have to do anything too crazy like a million trees in a day or something
you could literally be as simple as composting or recycling or picking up some garbage or planting
a tree in your garden like whatever it is just do something um each month um if you missed it
yesterday maybe you can sneak something in or or maybe you did something good yesterday that you
can share um or you can just also just join for the conversation it's going to be a great
conversation people sharing all the various ways that they made a difference and uh we're going
to be talking about some cool concepts around regeneration and most of these projects are
in the web3 refi space so it's just like just great people just great people all around so i
strongly recommend you tap the spaces link on the top there far left add it to your reminders
um so that you can come through highly artistic in 15 minutes from now um in fact i might just leave
this space open until then so that you guys can just like go for one to the next in the meantime
i'm going to be playing a little bit of tune in a little bit of music i encourage everybody
to do two things number one follow every single person in this space okay because every single
person in this space showed up peak of the bear market okay to learn about growing the refi movement
to learn about maximizing their impact if you genuinely wanted to make a difference in the world
through web3 during these times you are my people you are amazing human beings and i love each and
every one of you so thank you for coming through thank you for showing up thank you for giving a
demo and um and yeah i encourage so that's number one follow everybody in here okay do that while
we're playing this number two is dm it like read their bio if they're doing cool stuff dm them
be like oh hey wheel coin you're doing a free app that rewards you for traveling sustainably
sweet what are your goals what do you how can i help how can i download your app what do you
need right now because maybe you might have some media contact that would be particularly helpful
and then you can help them in a pretty significant way which will not only make a positive impact
but also build a better relationship such that you can then go to do other great things that
was just an example right but whoever's in here you're probably doing something good
and the more that we help each other the more that you know that stuff tends to come full 360
and that is what web3 is all about it's all about doing this stuff together we are one movement
within web3 making a difference making a positive impact leveraging this technology we are one movement
and that's the new wagweed ladies and gentlemen it's we're all gonna make impact we are all gonna
make impact and it's up to all of us to make that impact so let's go make it let's make it okay
spend this time the next 13 minutes the space will be open playing some tunage probably not
the best sound quality because it's twitter spaces but just DM each other and follow one another
because yeah there's are all great people i can vouch for so many people in this space
great human beings you know like uh you know fomo head great human being he helps so many
different people in the space he does regular spaces you should definitely try to come to
fomo head space um it's it's right before this right before i do my max impact show he's new
nest and they're just great people that's that's actually what got me into really into web3 and
even refi because i was able to just go into this like 24 seven space the social bees was doing
fomo head was leading a lot of those spaces and um and it was just great vibes you can always come
up and just share your ideas and have really thoughtful fun conversations um so that's another
great place fighters gang fighters gang is you know funding 50 percent of their mint regeneration
with yours truly i'm planting those mangroves with the four trees club team and we're sending
non-fungible updates to the holders um you know through the tree gens ai tree counting and nf
non-fungible technology great stuff what do they need right now i don't know ask him see what you
can do to help right kawagumba he's you know village project regenerative uh farming maybe
there's a collaboration you can do with farming right like just checking with these people right
not only is uh james got the carbon counting club he wants to do you know some fun events around games
on on spaces maybe you can collaborate on that maybe you can do space together you know maybe
you could support what he's doing with nfts there's also funding mangrove trees uh great stuff there's
evergreen coin right how could you how could you collaborate with evergreen coins you know what
i mean all these different things that you could potentially have ideas for maybe you can create
utility through your nft project you might want to launch in the future by going to firefly
there are just all these different ways that you could potentially um support one another and so that's
what i wanted to say is you guys should all do that all right uh james go ahead buddy um there's
also a lot of you know mathematical evidence of collaboration and how it will help success over
time uh all of the best advisors investments and stuff will always tell you to diversify
uh when we're talking about diversification that we're talking about supporting each other
and our projects in various ways being part of each other's communities um i know with evergreen
coin uh i believe i'm the largest liquidity provider so basically what i'm asking people
to do is prove that you're doing something that's good for the environment and take my money um
that's what it's there for um and because of the way crypto systems work and automated markets
functions over time will continue to provide value for us to continue to you know distribute
in this way um so if you guys want to be on you know the supplying part of this it's much
appreciated but you guys doesn't cost you anything uh just to go out there and claim it
participate in the markets um macroeconomics this makes a difference you know microeconomics
you get a little bit of money um this is there's a lot of you know crypto can be complicated
uh but it can also be simplified to building communities creating friendships uh doing stuff
to help each other um evergreen coin has you know we can look back and we can say that it didn't have
you know the best solid plan it was like we're going to start a coin we're going to help the
environment uh later there was legal stuff um long story short the plan from the beginning
was just to give money away to people doing good deeds um and in the seven years that it's
existed it's still over a thousand percent up with the plan of give people's money away
uh so if you guys are building in the crypto space you're using and taking advantage of these tools
and well-crafted ideas from the start um i see a lot of you doing a lot of you know just amazing
things uh so thank you for putting your time and talents you know into this industry and making
changes in the world beautiful well thousand percent up and you're just giving it away that's
that's really interesting um i think there's a lot we can learn from that
very very cool ladies and gents all right do the thing do the dms do the uh do the follows
we're gonna vibe out here for the next nine minutes until we flow into crypto whales highly
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Oh, okay, so the next space has already started, so head over to that far left on the Jumbotron
Crypto Whale's NFT, got a great space going on right now.
Head over there, and I'll see you there.
Let's do that with everybody.
Oh, okay, so the next space has already started, so head over to that far left on the Jumbotron
Crypto Whale's NFT, got a great space going on right now, so head over to that far left
All right, friends, I'm shutting down the space.
Head to the next one, to the next one, top of the Jumbotron.
All right, see you soon, friend.
Oh, wait, did I put it in the Jumbotron?
Oh, yeah, there we go.
Top of the—oh, no, you got to scroll down a little bit, and then it's right there.