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MAX IMPACT EP. 368 Regen Festival ✅Quadratic Vote ✅Our Approach ✅Wen?
Recorded: Oct. 23, 2023 Duration: 1:45:00Space Recording
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Can you guys hear me now?
Give me a thumbs up if you can hear me.
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Mic check, one, two.
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All right, lovely.
Welcome, Anna.
Welcome, Guru.
Welcome, Ian.
Let's grow, let's grow.
Wait, thumbs down.
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Lunko, can you not hear me?
Okay, still getting a thumbs up from Zangabong.
So we good, we good.
How you doing, Lunko?
What's happening, Rod?
GTDM?
Oh, he's down a listener.
Okay.
All right.
He's doing the old off and on.
Good old spaces rugs.
What's going on with you, Paul?
How you doing, my friend?
Okay, and he's back from his personal page.
And we lost Paul.
Damn, okay.
This is some serious spaces rugs looking like.
Everyone's doing the off and on.
All right.
Hopefully, y'all can hear me.
Hopefully, we're coming through.
Chris?
Yeah, looks like those rugs are something like this.
Nice to see everyone here.
Nice to see you too, buddy.
Nice to see you too.
Welcome.
All right, Lunko's giving the thumbs up now.
How you doing, Rod?
It's been a minute.
What's going on with you?
Yeah, hey.
I'm quite happy that finally today, the final day of Give Us Round, it was quite tough for me.
You go hard on the Give Us, eh?
Love it.
Yeah, in my case, you know.
He's machine, real machine.
The kill machine.
It's just the fact that in the last Give Us Round, I received like $100.
So, in that case, you just, you will be all show machine as well.
But yeah, finally, like the last two hours, and I'm really happy that it's over.
Yeah, but you have been crushing this time, right?
Sorry to hear.
I did the wrong emoji there.
That's sad that you only got $100.
Let's involve you more in some of these more live streams, and let's crush it, GG19.
Oh, snap.
We got Pranav in the building.
Welcome, Pranav.
Amazing, amazing.
All right.
Let's make sure that everybody in the room retweets it.
Bottom right in the chat is where you can do that.
Drop a comment.
Let's boost the algo.
Because I don't think people can actually go to my page right now for some weird reason.
So, let's make sure we all retweet.
Okay, I'm going to pin some things to the top.
All right.
Happy days.
Let's go.
Let's go.
We got Ibrahim in the house.
Ibrahim.
Amazing.
Okay, so today, we're going to talk about the quadratic vote that we have launched.
That's right.
We have launched an official quadratic vote for the name.
There's been a lot of really great name suggestions from ReFest to RegenFest to GreenPill Festival to Regenissance and RegensUnite.
A lot of really great candidates for the name, and we're letting all of you decide quadratically.
So, you don't just have to pick one.
The formula works the same as quadratic funding, except instead of having to give money, you can dedicate certain votes.
And how will you find the link to that?
Well, it's in the Telegram communities.
It's in the TreeGens Telegram community.
It's in the official RegenFestival Telegram community.
And it's also in the Let's Grow DAO community.
So, it's just a link.
It was set up by the amazing Guru.
Shout out to Guru in the audience.
I see you in the audience.
Legend.
Thank you, Guru, for setting that up.
Super cool of you to do that.
So, yeah.
The way that it works is you have to find in the spreadsheets the basically rows that have not been taken.
So, there's like each vote is like its own link.
So, you've got to put your name there.
You know, fill out the thing.
Do the quadratic vote.
And then just tick the box.
That's basically how you do that.
So, let's get a link posted to the Regen community.
The Regen Festival community.
And I'll post that up.
And then hopefully you all can do the quadratic vote today.
And we can finalize the name of a Regen Festival, which we've been calling it Regen Fest for now.
But ultimately, it's up to all of us to decide how we want to do this.
All right.
So, I hope that's clear.
I will – why don't we just do a quick little check-in, all right, for those who are up here.
And feel free to come up if you're able.
But let's do a quick check-in.
How are you feeling?
What's the vibe?
Paul first, then Rod, then Song of Home, and then Lumine as well.
So, yeah, Jamie, as Rod mentioned, I'm in the same mood.
And just give us quadratic opinion or optimism today, like in one hour finished.
And I invite everyone who is not 1.8 yet to 1.8 for Lumka, Refai Pangan, and other, like, a lot of good, awesome projects to deliver an impact.
And who needs your attention and support and funds as well.
So, yeah, I'm in that mood.
And in part of that, we have one more day on Gitcoin Citizen Round.
And we, like, three of us at least here participated.
So, I invite everyone as well to do the same on Gitcoin Citizen Round.
Yeah, that sounds like a shill or something, but that's really important.
Yeah, that's – I mean, you know that.
So, yeah, apart of that, I'm on energy, tired, but rest on my way to Myanmar to do border run.
And, you know, just relax without phone, take pause, breathe, and, yeah, do nothing, actually.
Just sit in the car and have a nice journey.
So, that's repressed me a lot.
So, yeah, that's basically from my side, ready to talk more, and Rod, jump on stage.
Right on.
Okay, yeah, Rod, you already kind of shared the vibe.
You're a bit exhausted.
You've been shilling.
And by the way, it's very important.
We've got one hour left to support on Giveth.
You actually get 65 or so percent back when you do it on Giveth.
So, do support the folks over in Pangan.
You know, those are the folks on the ground who are going to help us make this festival possible.
And, you know, Paul and them are going full-time into regen life.
They do tons of plastic cleanups.
You know, of course, Lunko's got their own, you know, regen things happening, but also, you know, decentralized space.
I don't know if you want to do a quick show there, too.
But, yeah.
Yeah, and pin stuff.
Pin stuff.
Yeah, there you are.
You've already pinned stuff.
Okay, happy days.
30X.
That is amazing.
I mean, some of the matching we're seeing on this Giveth and on the Citizen Round is absolutely phenomenal.
So, make sure that you do that.
I did my donations recently, so make sure you get yours in as well.
Yeah, I don't know, Lunko, if there's anything you want to add there to the quick check-in?
Definitely, it's not phenomenal, but it really depends on the round.
In case of Lunko, the open source round, 30X is super amazing because on average on open source round,
if you're not a super huge project, you have less than 2X.
I mean, last time, Lunko received around $700, and matching pool was only $100.
So, it really depends on your situation and on the round that you're in.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, okay.
So, 100 was the matching.
Go ahead.
I just wanted to...
I'm always reminding you about that.
And that's what's in my mind right now.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, it's okay.
Focused on that.
You're good.
Thanks, Paul.
Oh, good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you for pinning as well.
I'm going to retweet that.
Bada bing, bada boom.
All right.
So, we got the amazing Pranav up here.
What's going on, Pranav?
Quick check-in.
How you feeling?
What's the vibe?
Oh, Pranav's back to the...
Okay.
Maybe we're getting rigged today.
I'm not sure.
A lot of people doing the old off and on again.
Hopefully, all is well in the Twitterverse.
All right.
Wasabi, what's going on, my friend?
Quick check-in.
How you feeling?
What's the vibe?
Yo, GM, Jimmy.
Just having my morning coffee.
I'm feeling great today.
What's up with you?
How was your weekend with your dad?
Oh, thanks for asking, man.
It was really, really nice.
I hadn't seen him in a hot minute.
And yeah, it was really great to celebrate.
My family has this tradition where we remake songs.
So, we change the lyrics of songs and sing them karaoke style and all these references
and stuff like that.
And I edited this video with his face onto the music video.
It was a great time.
It was a great time.
So, I'm feeling regenerated from the weekend, even though I've got a little bit of a small
sickness.
Ain't nothing serious.
We are pushing through and I'm stoked for a great week.
So, thank you for asking, my friend.
Song of Om.
How you doing?
What's the vibe?
What are you grateful for?
I am grateful for my life and my freedom and to be in a country that's not warring.
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, everybody.
Um, I just moved to Bali, so my body's still adjusting to the time difference and I had
to set an alarm so I wouldn't sleep through this because I really needed to take a nap.
I woke up at like 3 a.m., had breakfast at 7 and then drove all the way to North Bali
with my friend to help somebody out there that I know and then drove back to the center
of Ubud, got, met another, I met a new person today on my journey who's on the medicine
pass, so that was pretty cool and then came back and just crashed so hard.
So, I'm glad that I managed to wake up from my alarm for this because I totally set an
alarm to be here.
So, that's the vibe.
Sending a lot of love to everybody.
Received and, uh, retransmitting that love in your general direction to Bali.
Uh, that's, that's super cool.
I'm glad you got a nap in and thank you for setting an alarm, making sure you make
this, this, uh, this open building session.
We are building what will become the biggest Regen Festival.
It's all about uniting all the Regens around the world and ultimately growing the movement
and we're doing this every Monday in public, uh, probably around this time if this is a
good time for most peeps.
I know it's a bit early for our American friends, um, but we want to try to, try to
accommodate everybody, including those in Asia.
And, uh, yeah, go ahead, Lunko, you want to chime in here, buddy?
Yeah, I just want to address, uh, often people from Bali come to Pangan, so let me, Paul, and
Anna Maria know in advance when you'll decide to come to Pangan.
Uh, most like the probability is 50-50, uh, but it's already, uh, maybe you know a guy, his
name is Asti, um, he is, uh, from Givas and he is quite active.
Uh, that's how we actually, we have met with him in real life.
Um, uh, he just dropped a message, uh, a post on Twitter that he left Bali and I dropped
a message.
Okay, if you'll be on, uh, Pangan, uh, let's meet, and he responded, you know, I'm on
Oko Pangan, let's meet.
So, that's quite realistically, uh, a lot of people from Bali migrate to Pangan and back.
Love it.
Back to you, Jimmy.
And I want to add from my side that, uh, Sanko form that you kind of require to be here,
uh, according to your skills and, you know, spiritual approach.
It's like a massive story for you.
Yeah.
I definitely, it is on my list to get there.
I have a few commitments in Bali, um, up until April.
Well, I have a major commitment up into December and then I have a, uh, I've got a yoga training,
but after December, before the yoga training, I can possibly do that, but definitely after
the yoga training for sure.
Thailand has been on my list for a very, very long time to see.
And it's one of the few countries I haven't been able to get to yet.
So, it is, it is happening all in divine timing.
And I'm so grateful that there's open arms to receive and we can hug one another and just
connect and build a better earth.
Love it.
Yes, that seems like divine timing because I'm also going to be, um, moving to Thailand,
uh, permanently from January.
So, uh, if you're able to come through off to December, that, that sounds amazing.
And yes, these folks here are the warmest, most amazing hosts.
You know, when I went to Pangan and met them IRL, it was a very magical thing.
And, uh, you know, just, just phenomenal people, great vibes all around.
It's made me want to move there and expand our mangrove tree planting to Thailand and, uh,
and ultimately host this there because it really is with a perfect environment.
Just great vibes all around, huge regen, refi culture that's really percolating as they're
doing monthly events over there.
So, I'm excited to get into all that great stuff.
And don't worry, Ibrahim, of course, I'll be back in Kenya doing my trips as we still have
most of our projects out of there.
You do in the sad face.
Don't worry.
We'll be back in Kenya for show.
But, um, but we've got to expand and keep growing, baby.
Let's grow.
All right, Lunko, what's going on?
I just want to add that, um, I was talking not, uh, uh, about Thailand.
I was talking about, uh, specifically about Kofangan.
Um, it, there are small nuances and Kofangan has several interesting advantages, including,
for example, uh, road traffic, uh, there are no road traffic here almost at all, despite
some days.
And compared to Bali, uh, that's a huge advantage.
And definitely that's one of the things that I suppose you would love here.
But yeah, back to you, Jimmy, I can shill Pangan for really four hours telling about its
benefits.
Shill Pangan.
Yeah, we got to do a bit of Pangan shill.
I mean, it's good practice, right?
We're ultimately shilling Pangan to the, to the regen world so that everyone collides
in this beautiful location, uh, to, to, to talk about how we can scale regeneration,
how we can do all of the great things that we love.
So I'm just tweeting out a link to our regen festival telegram.
We've got some really cool channels.
This is a direct link to our governance channel because that is where, um, where, okay, uh,
just quadratic voted for, for our regen festival name.
Um, join, join our festival, uh, telegram to do the same.
Um, okay, let's say regen festival.
Bam.
Okay.
Boom.
All right.
It's done.
Okay.
So the link is out.
Um, wait, sorry.
Hold on to do the same.
Okay.
Great.
So, um, I'm going to encourage all of y'all, ideally while you're on this call to quadratically
vote.
If you haven't done a, pretty much all of us have, you know, done quadratic funding before
where there's matching and there's the formula of QF.
Um, it's about more about the, the number of people than the, the amounts given very
similar concepts with quadratic voting.
Um, except in this case, it is, um, you get points that you can allocate and you don't
have to donate anything to quadratically vote.
So there you go.
Boom.
It is up in the jumbotron.
Tap that link, the t.me forward slash all the numbers.
That is our telegram community, um, specifically linking directly to the governance, but I don't
know if you knew this, but in a lot of telegram communities, you can just swipe right and
see channels just like you have in discord.
But IMO, it's, it's significantly better.
Okay.
So that is the quadratic vote.
Everybody gets your votes in.
I think in about 24 to 48 hours, we will be announcing the official name of our festival.
And, you know, this is, you know, we want to be using all of the, all the tools, all the
good things, right?
Quadratic voting, quadratic funding, talking about, you know, all the different public goods
funding mechanisms and really pioneering those at the festival as well.
So, um, awesome.
We got oxygen that builds in.
I see we got fractal visions in the middle.
We got Jerry in here.
And Anna, if you're able to come up, Guru, we'd love to hear your perspectives on some
of these things.
So, all right.
Ultimately, let me set the stage for the next green tick we got going up here.
Okay.
Because ultimately what we want to do is, you know, grow the movement.
We want to unite and grow the movement.
These are two of our like major objectives with, with this region festival, right?
Um, we, we ultimately want to provide a transform, transformational experience for a lot of people
so they feel inspired to make a positive impact using these tools so that people can find their
purpose, their passion, their mission, all the amazing things that are important to, you know,
ultimately empower all the regions out there to maximize their impact.
But, um, but in order to do that, we, we want to like really attract a lot of people, you know,
be the pollen that attracts all the bees.
And, and this is not just the, you know, the green pill regions, of course you want to
unite all of them, but we also want to green pill all the other people who could become
regions as well, right?
Who could be tipped over the scale from degen to region or, you know, take the green pill
as they say.
And so how do we do that?
Well, we want to put together a pretty significant production, right?
Like we want to put it together, you know, a, uh, you know, several stages.
We want to get some, some influential musicians to come through.
Of course you'll have the conference elements, but then we also want to have, you know, ultimately
a music festival that we want to, um, you know, collide with towards the end there.
So how do we do that?
Um, you know, it's going to take budget, right?
So we're going to be obviously looking at all the different funding mechanisms out there,
grant funding mechanisms.
Um, but it's been floated in our telegram.
By the way, Regenissance is, is one of the names that we're going to be voting for in
this quadratic phonic thing.
Um, and the person who really coined the term Regenissance or is pioneering in a lot of ways
through the turn, um, is in our telegram community and is, is, is significantly
contributing to this event.
Um, so, and that same person was also putting forward, and we also have spoken about this
in previous spaces of having a kind of burning man vibe, right?
So now we're going to have to decide, right?
When I say our approach, is our approach going to be full swing burning man approach?
And I'll explain what that means in a minute, or is it the kind of a hybrid approach or is
it going to be more of a commercial approach?
Because there are pros and cons to this, right?
I mean, okay, so here's what the burning man approach is.
The burning man approach is there's usually a significant ticket size for people to, you
know, attend these things because it does create a pretty beautiful atmosphere.
But the idea is the entire thing is put on by the attendees.
I mean, the sound stages, workshop stages, camps, it's all built by the attendees.
The only thing that the burning man organizers actually built is a temple and a burning man,
which literally they set on fire.
Everything else is put on by the attendees.
But it's one of the coolest festivals in the world.
I mean, some huge artists go there, but it took a pretty long time to build it up to
that point where artists would actually come through and volunteer, like big artists, like
a lot of the biggest artists in the world will come through and volunteer to perform at
Burning Man because of the, you know, the rep that it's grown over time.
So now, so another part of Burning Man culture is there's no real sales.
Like you can't sell goods and services.
I think they provide ice and coffee perhaps, but pretty much everything else not for sale.
You have to bring everything that you need to survive plus more.
And, you know, that comes down to this kind of like, you know, radical responsibility element.
I mean, there are 10 sort of like commandments to it.
But that's the idea is that you're supposed to be gifting everything, no sales, and it's put
on by the audience, and no sponsors as well, right?
No sponsors are allowed at that festival because they're taking the commercial aspect out of it.
And, you know, this is something that we should think about.
Like, you know, will we be able to fund and make this happen in Y1, like the year one,
without sponsorship?
You know, will we be able to really pull this thing off?
Are we willing to put in maybe the first five years aren't going to be big through this model?
Maybe it's going to take a long time to build up the reputation to be able to bring
in a big artist, right?
It's not an overnight thing.
They're not just going to come through and get some big artist to volunteer, right?
Now, on the other side of the coin, it's not necessarily all or nothing.
I think there is a nice blend that could happen.
For example, there's an event in Canada called Shambhala Music Festival, whereby it's kind of
like a sister festival to Burning Man.
They still have the strong gifting culture.
Everyone's gifting each other stuff.
You know, there's like these giving stations where people like gift things.
But they still do have – actually, no.
In that case, they still don't have sponsors.
But they still have some commercial aspects.
Like they'll have, you know, food vendors.
They'll have, you know, smoothies and – like all that stuff is for sale.
There's a whole big like, you know, store kind of like area, like a vending area for a
bunch of different merchant providers.
Generally, they're more sustainable, right?
But I think a hybrid approach could potentially be like that.
And maybe we just bring on like ethically aligned, like maybe like the well-funded folks
in the refi space, right?
Like there's, you know, there's Celo, there's Kyoto, there's, you know, Polygon, and HAQQ
also is really well-funded and wants to be, you know, ethically kind of pioneering the
refi space as well.
So, look, I think there's a hybrid there.
Ultimately, we have to decide how far down this Burning Man route do we want to go?
And do we want it to be without sponsorship?
Because that's another good way to fund the event, but it, you know, could have its drawbacks.
And we could just be really clear on like what kind of sponsors do we want to bring in?
For example, obviously not Shell and like, you know, full DJN kind of us, right?
You know, it's something we could decide.
Or we go full-blown Burning Man and we all commit to that together because it will be a
longer haul, it could lead to a better experience.
It has its own unique challenges, but also benefits.
So, I think that's something we should all discuss together today.
And then we'll also get into the dates as well where we're going to be throwing this
thing towards the end of it.
All right, go ahead.
I think Paul was the first time we get to Oxygen as well.
Yeah, Jamie, thank you.
I bring like to you from my side.
First of all, yeah, you mentioned that it's first year and we're doing all of us doing
kind of non-profit startups.
It's still startups.
It's a lot of responsibilities and development on the way.
So, let's do it as we say here, sabay-sabay.
More like chill-chill.
Not over like loading ourselves.
Not over promising, but better, you know, if we can, we can better over deliver and make
surprise.
That's my view on this first year and first big event.
And, yeah, that's important.
I'm a little bit loose at the point that I want to bring.
Maybe I will be back to that and Oxygen.
Yeah, so the other point is like how far down the Burning Man path do we want to go?
Do we want to do totally no sponsors?
Yeah, yes, about that.
Thank you for reminding me.
You know, that West is a part of that, that community that started on San Francisco Beach.
They have ideology.
They have values.
And that's after that all this happening.
And we need to identify our values, our, let's say, in a good way, ideology, and bring our, let's
say, our custom Burning Man rules or like what we want to see, how we want to execute it.
And, you know, we can do it according to the place as well.
Cop and gun, for example, according to local conditions.
And I think that will be the way that's from my side and, yeah, ready to listen to you guys
or to think about it.
Take the locals, you know, perspective, make it, make it have that local vibe to it, but
then also under promise over deliver.
Got you.
Thank you for your contribution.
Oxygen, go ahead.
Awesome.
So I'm going to build on his too.
Same thing.
I put in a lot of analysis for like all the ideas that everybody's thrown in.
And out of the analysis, like in order to throw this properly, like we need at least
12 months, like minimum.
I couldn't, I couldn't get around it.
Like we tried, we planned, we threw all kinds of stuff in there.
And it's solid at least to 12 months if we want to do this properly.
And since it's our first one, I think we should follow that and just commit to actually building
it out properly and finding all this, like everything that we really want to put in because
we want this to be a global movement, right?
Not just a festival.
We want it to be global change.
So with that in mind and the mention of the local, you know, if we do this yearly and we
create this, this structure to follow under the basis of like how we're going to do it,
I think focusing on local sponsors.
There was an idea that came into the core group about like focusing on sponsors from the
island, right?
And making it an entire island event.
So we focus on the sponsors that want to be part of this.
And then we highlight them in the event and we create like little tours to their shop,
like the best coffee or the best food or whatever, you know, however we're going to structure
that.
But, but locally we focus on the locals and we bring them in to support the local culture,
the local economy and those things.
And like we say, well, what does this, this local place need?
Like maybe they got like the world's best recycling already.
Well, let's go over there.
We'll incorporate the recycling aspect of it and then we'll, we'll build on to their
economy and their, their community.
Like we're, we're thinking about gifting like the solar roof, right?
So on that same concept, how are we going to build that specific community and how are
we going to integrate?
And then that right there is like going to help build us for, for long-term future stability.
Love that.
Okay.
Yeah.
We're going to get deep into the, and first of all, I love the fact that we're talking about
not rushing into this because I, for one, uh, did rush myself into throwing a music festival
in two months and it was the, the most stressful experience of my life.
We pulled it off magically by multiple miracles.
We pulled it off and it was still an amazing time, but it was literally the most stressful
experience of my life and I've been through a lot of shit.
So thank goodness we are giving it time this time.
Um, we'll get into that time, exact time discussion a little bit, uh, after this first
topic.
But yeah, so promoting local things like, dude, I'd love to promote the, they literally
call it the heaven.
They have this place like a, quite a few steps to get up there, but it has a spectacular view
and it's all by donation kind of vibe.
Like it's so cool what they have up there.
Dude, I want to promote that.
I want to put you guys on a pedestal.
I want to support local region economies.
And like some of the builders in this, you know, who are involved are doing amazing things
like Solarpunk DAO, like Anna and, you know, CocoDAO and Coconut Network.
Like I do want to promote you guys.
Like if you're, if you're helping put this event on and, and, you know, you're, you're
doing good things with the world.
I do want to promote, like I'm intrigued.
I always promote, um, you know, positive impact projects.
It's why I've done 368 episodes so far of Max Impact.
And, um, and, and yeah, so, so I'm personally quite passionate about promoting positive impact
projects.
And I think that if they're aligned, maybe we just create like a criteria, you know, if
the initiative is aligned and they're in it for the right reasons, we're not promoting
some greenwash initiative, um, and it's genuine and, and, and furthermore, maybe they can like
add value to the event.
Maybe they're creating like a certain experience, you know what I mean?
Like they could, they could add like some kind of game or area or, you know, fun interactive
thing as opposed to just like a billboard in your face.
You know what I mean?
Like we could try to do it thoughtfully and, um, yeah.
And I think that ultimately that will bring funding, which will allow us to make the event
more special.
So I'm personally kind of leaning towards socially responsible sponsorship and not totally cutting
out the possibility of sponsorship personally.
But I'd love to hear your perspective because I know that the Burning Man model is a really
special one and those events are unlike anything else in the world.
So I'm definitely open-minded to it, but I want to also, you know, make, we can make this
unique too.
But yeah, go ahead, Anna.
Hey everyone.
GM, GM.
Um, nice to see you all.
Good morning.
Good night.
Wherever you are in the world.
Uh, and yeah, I was thinking about it and I, I think we should like brainstorm on how to
make like Burning Man, uh, like the entire process, like, uh, function, but in a Thai way.
Cause for example, like you see, like probably the biggest difference is that like in Burning
Man, everyone has to take their own car, right?
Cause they like carry a bunch of stuff.
Like, um, they take like absolutely everything with them and they like go back with like everything.
Um, but like when you see, for example, how people live here, like everyone just like drives
around like bikes, you know, like I think like, uh, it wouldn't come like naturally for people
to rent cars.
Cause like here we all like literally drive like bikes and scooters.
Like, it's not very common for people to have cars.
And I think there's like not that many cars, you know?
Um, so yeah, like if we could like brainstorm on how to, um, yeah, like have this economy
of like giving, um, but maybe in a small scale way, for example, in a way that you can
carry it in your bike, um, here, like also it's very particular that the, the parties
like start super early and they also end like early, uh, cause like everyone is literally
asleep like at 1pm, uh, cause yeah, like it's a tropical island, you know, it's still
a very small tropical island, which makes it like so magical.
Uh, but yeah, I feel like for example, if, if we, uh, incentivize like too many cars and
you know, like all this vibe, I don't know how locals would like, like us, uh, I don't
know if that makes sense.
So I think like, uh, we could like try to be very respectful also with the way like they
do things like here.
Um, but yeah, I don't know, maybe like Paul and, and, and Rod and Anastasia could like,
uh, yeah, elaborate on that.
Cause yeah, I haven't been here like that long.
So, but that's like my first impression about it.
Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
It's an island, right?
I mean, this, I think one of the principles was radical reliance.
And so yeah, being able to bring everything that you need to survive for seven days in
the case of Burning Man, not super practical when you're going to an island from a foreign
country, right?
I mean, it's, it's a lot more challenging and has its own.
So yeah, doing this within the context.
Okay.
So before we get to the other hands, you, you kind of pass the torch, uh, to, to our,
uh, local team here.
Like, what are your thoughts on that?
Is there anything you want to add to that in terms of the local context, Rod, Lumine or
Lunko?
Covered?
All right.
Let's get to the hands.
All right.
Yeah.
Lunko, there you go.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Uh, it would be nice to keep it not so big.
Uh, and, uh, uh, it will be significantly different from Burning Man.
However, it highly depends on their, uh, location that you're gonna choose.
Like maybe one of the things that I'd like to add to that the island is, uh, it's really
small, but it has several different zones with, uh, significantly different vibes.
And, uh, Hadrian and Full Moon Party, that's one type of, uh, the vibe.
And maybe if you want to make a loud festival, it's better to make it somewhere close to
that, uh, to that part.
However, uh, the northern, northern western part where heaven is, uh, that, uh, part is
more, uh, more, um, I don't know how to say it.
There are no parties here and, uh, uh, it's much, uh, calmer here.
And, uh, the festival itself, uh, should reflect the difference and maybe instead of, uh, having
one big place, it makes sense to, uh, make, um, several different lectures during the week
or so in different beautiful places all over the island and, uh, each and every election
could, uh, could be unique, uh, in a nice cafe with nice food, beautiful view, uh, each
view could be different and, uh, the places could be selected to reflect, uh, different
things.
I do not know, uh, I mean, that's basically the idea.
Uh, it has to be, uh, uh, discussed, uh, but, uh, I think, uh, that kind of, uh, variety
is a nice place.
Yeah, Lumina, go ahead.
Yeah, I was gonna add, hello.
I was gonna add, uh, about this idea that we kind of discussed similar stuff.
We were thinking to organize the festival and make a festival map, electronic one, and, uh,
point all the places around the island that people might be interested in, point the yoga
spaces, point the best beaches, the quiet waterfalls, I don't know, whatever.
And then whoever wants to go out from the festival and take the activity, they just do it and follow
the map and pick their spot and maybe even go to the opposite side of the island if they
get fed up with us.
I don't know.
Okay, yeah, I love the idea of creating zones and, like, themed areas.
Um, I don't know if, like, traveling across the island would be, like, a logistical challenge,
like, especially if you want to try to bring everyone there.
Um, but, uh, but, yeah, I'm open to that and we can definitely explore it further.
All right, let's get to the hands.
I think Oxygen was first and we'll get to Sangha Bomb.
Go ahead, Oxygen.
Um, all right, so it's the, the whole, uh, idea behind the zoning thing on the whole island.
Like, that's, that's kind of, like, incorporating, like, find your vibe, right?
Like, if you, if you want to go to that temple or if you want to go to the waterfalls or if
you want to go see those things, we incorporate pieces of the festival at those locations,
right?
So we, we take the festival with them when they go.
It's not like they're leaving the festival to go.
We have the whole island mapped out as, like, a, a theme park kind of concept where, you
know, you kind of draw interest into these different areas and that's how we draw the
interest to the sponsors and then we, you know, keep it sponsored locally.
Um, the whole gifting, uh, like, um, the Burning Man aspect of it, I think, I think we can find
a really good niche in between the outliers, right?
Burning Man is, like, this only gifting.
What if we take another approach, like, the, we try to promote the tipping, right?
The tipping culture.
So it's instead of, like, giving everything that you got, you, you then support what you
care about and you, you tip out these tokens that are, that are given from these various,
you know, um, uh, the, the various little workshops or whatever that's going on.
They have their tokens and it's just airdropped, right?
We airdrop a little bit of tokens, but they have lots of, lots of small amounts of tokens,
right?
So then, like, they kind of got to get into using them and passing different tokens about
and, like, getting into the Web3, like, onboarding aspect of things.
But we also have, like, the, the we give, right?
So as the, as the host, as the, as the, the host of the, the, the event, we prepare better
for the people that we're trying to present this for, right?
Like, we, we set them up with more things and say, well, we got these airdrops going
out and maybe you can get a scooter for the tokens, right?
And you can go scoot about for the day and, and, and use those tokens to actually activate
those events for yourself, right?
Like, like create some sort of an engagement experience with the tokens to, to create that
onboarding and the events and that outside.
Like, we're not just like keeping you right here.
Like, we want you to be free.
We want you to explore your independent interests in our culture, the regenerative culture, right?
Like, so, so having as much engagement in all of those areas as possible through, like,
a tipping culture and through a giving, but more of a giving structured support system.
Cool.
Love it.
Thank you, brother.
I like that.
Giving support structure.
Sorry.
Um, Jerry said he's trying to join and it's actually a private link.
I don't know why I even need a link if you're already in it, but apparently that link only
works for people who are already in the group.
So, unfortunately, uh, I'm able to edit that post.
So, and I just created a super cool, uh, name for it.
So, bam.
Uh, it's t.me forward slash regen festival.
Boom.
We got it.
We got the name.
Okay, here we go.
Pinned it to the top.
There you go, friends.
Now you can all join our festival with the different channels for discussion.
We have different committees in there, right?
So, we got the, um, we got the funding committee.
We got the governance channel.
We got the logistics committee, the experience committee, and the marketing committee.
So, you can join one of the committees and participate, but make sure you go to governance,
and that's where you will find the link.
If you're unsure where these channels are, just swipe right, um, and you will see all
the different channels that are in there.
So, happy days.
All right.
Over to you, Sangha Bone.
So, I, going back to the sponsorship concept and the impact that we're having on the island
itself, like, I definitely think we need to be very ecologically conscious of how we're
doing this.
Like, that's my biggest concern when we're talking about going to different parts of
the island.
Like, I know for me, personally, I choose not to drive.
I choose to use public transportation.
I choose to use carpooling just because of what's going on with the planet.
Um, so, there's that, is how do we, let's say, you know, if we zone it out, we're going
to have to find ways that we ecologically do this properly.
The biggest thing is that we are going into, uh, a lot of us are going into a foreign country,
and it's really important that we're extremely respectful of the local government, the local
people, the, uh, specifically the earth, the ocean, um, I, I definitely want to make sure
that I'm part of something that really is 100% sustainable.
Um, then when it comes to the sponsorship, I think it's really important if we do allow
sponsors to come in, like, that there has to be, like, an application process of some
sort, and we have to really do, like, the homework on, like, the history of these sponsors and
what they've allowed themselves to be in, what, you know, the lead, you know, some sponsors,
they, I don't, this is just hypothetical, like, for example, somebody just came in and is, like,
bought out a company that's a sponsor, but really, you look at their background, and they're
nothing but, you know, they're just there to make a buck, so it's really important we
do our research on who's behind any of the sponsors, not just, like, the company or the
name, but, like, the people specifically, so I really think that if we allow sponsorship
in, it has to be very, like, there has to be a strong vetting process, uh, in order to
keep with ethics, I really, and you talk a lot about Burning Man, but I just want to bring
everybody back to the history of Burning Man, that that actually stemmed from the Rainbow
Gathering, and the Rainbow Gathering was a completely 100% gifting culture, no money was
allowed whatsoever, and that has been, that movement has grown globally, and now there's
mini Rainbow Gatherings happening around the year, around the world all the time, um, not
just during the independence time when everybody's praying for peace, um, I also think that with
what we're doing, we have to really have a strong, strong, clear intention and vision, not just
of, like, oh, we want this to be a big movement, we want to be able to create change, yes, those
obviously are part of it, but we really need to have a clear intention, um, in, like, a
more, not just, like, a macro looking at the big, but, like, what the intention is specifically
for that moment in time, what the intention is for how we're going to impact everybody
around us, what the intention is in the education, what the intention is in the communication with
others, um, also in the onboarding process, because I know we've talked about that with
people that are not even aware of Web3, and I, I definitely know that there's a lot of people
that are regenerative that have no clue when I say the words Web3, they're like, what is
that, so there has to be some really, really, really clear boundaries in our intention, like,
with this as well, when it comes not only to the sponsorship, or the zoning aspect of how
we're going to do it, so that, that's my food for thought that I'm adding to this.
Wow, many layers of intention, I love that, great food for thought, thank you so much, Sangavam,
always a pleasure having you here in the spaces, contributing your perspectives.
All right, Guru is up next, what's going on, Guru?
Hello, hello, everyone, happy Monday, um, yeah, a lot of great points with her song of
home, uh, I think she hit the spot with, uh, in terms of having our values right, and setting
our intentions, and knowing what we are doing, uh, beforehand, and that should be hashed out,
like, as, uh, I mean, as much before, as much time before the festival as possible,
um, so I think only from there, things can emerge, and, like, we can kind of have guardrails
and boundaries around what can be allowed, what's not allowed, and, uh, yeah, I think,
uh, for the long term, I feel like if we're thinking of this, like, a multi-year and multi-generational
thing, then, like, these things are going to be really, really important.
Um, so, yeah, I think we can borrow values from different places, but we also have to,
uh, understand, like, how and why those things worked, why did Burning Man work, like, why
is it such a big thing, even after 20, uh, years, right, like, there are specific things
that clicked and that went well for, uh, that festival, and, uh, we also need to understand,
like, what are those things, because if we are planning to do this, uh, globally in, like,
across regions every year, like, I don't know what's the plan, but, like, this year, maybe
it's Fanggan, but next year, it could be another place, so, like, how to have that consistency,
but also the flexibility to, uh, do things differently at a different place, uh, all these things will
come down to the values that we kind of set, uh, right now with the intentions and stuff,
so, um, yeah, and, like, coming to the sponsors and, uh, how we want to do this, like, do we
want to follow the gifting culture, like, it's a range of difficulty, right, like, if we have
to do everything on our own, the difficulty is, like, really high, but if we have to go through
the sponsor route, it's, uh, relatively easy, but, uh, yeah, um, that's one, one thing to
consider, like, we can do something in between, or I'm also thinking if we can gradually go
towards one direction, like, maybe if we start, like, somewhere in the middle of, uh, doing,
like, conscious, uh, sponsorship right now, and then, like, eventually, uh, like, how we
do, uh, gradual decentralization, maybe we can do gradual, uh, gifting or something like
that, you know, um, yeah, uh, I had this one more idea, actually, like, if we are, uh, like,
inviting all these groups to come together and, uh, do this thing as a community, like, we can
also divide the, uh, divide the venue and, like, what needs to get done in different regions
and, like, give responsibility to those people, like, if Regions Unite want to set up, like,
a whole zone, like, they should be able to collaborate together and work together and,
like, uh, yeah, set up the place, so that way, like, a lot of, I mean, Green Pill can have
its own zone, ReFi can have its own zone, so, yeah, that way we're inclusive and we can,
uh, let them have the freedom to design, uh, their spaces.
Love that, brother. Yeah, I like it because, yeah, you know, right now we're in a bear market
and, you know, not having sponsorship typically means you have to charge more for the ticket.
I mean, I think Burning Man's, like, $500 or something, like, minimum, and then it just
goes up from there if it's sold out, obviously, on the secondary. So, like, people end up paying
a premium and, yeah, I don't know how much we can charge during a bear market if we can,
yeah, and we're definitely going to charge $500.
People were selling their Burning Man tickets at cost price because of the, at this last one,
because of what happened.
Because of the culture, right?
Where before, people would buy tickets and then they would sell it and make money on the
tickets, like, that wasn't happening this past one because of how bad the economy was.
So, definitely, oh, good thought to keep that in mind.
Nice.
Yeah, I've heard some good stories of people, like, gifting tickets and selling them at,
at, at fair prices as well. I think that, like, that all ties back to the culture of gifting,
right? Like, if you've been to an event and were gifted something, like, you know, 10 to 20 times,
are you more likely to, like, screw a future ticket holder by, like, doubling the price?
Like, you'd be way less likely because you just have this gratitude, you know?
It's a beautiful thing when you receive a gift from a stranger at a festival because you
are super grateful for that and, like, unable to hold that in and you typically pass that
on to another person who then passes that on to another person. You know, it's like this
beautiful ripple effect of good vibes. And I think that the fact that, you know, we know
Griff from Giveth, the fact that we can connect with it, who's also, like, obviously goes to
Burning Man and really pioneers this whole gifting thing. I think we can do this gifting thing in a
really thoughtful way and that should definitely be a part of the vibe in the culture that's
created. All right, Oxygen's up next and then we got Lumine. I also want to hear from Peaceful
who just joined us up here. So, go ahead, Oxygen.
I really like the idea of, you know, kind of breaking it down into the peace structure of,
like, compartmentalize the island where, you know, the, like, the spiritual aspect of it could
be focusing on that temple or the waterfalls, like, the get back to nature type of thing.
And then we do have Refi. And so, like, maybe Refi focuses on the best parts of the island.
And we're taking that into, like, setting up a foundation that we can pretty, like, a framework,
right? So, we can put any shell onto that framework for, like, we can move into any community,
right? That's the point. Like, we want to change the environment of Koh Phangan to a more
regenerative stance so that they have a better framework to manage the other events that are
going to be coming into this area. So, like, if we do break it down, it allows those specific
groups to focus heavily on how they want to present themselves to the world from there forward.
And it also allows us to merge those groups and see where those lines merge and be able to build
out those areas specifically more, you know, properly. And then it also, the sponsor validation
kind of kicks in there as well. Like, each area has the ability then to kind of evaluate the types
of sponsors that they want to bring in specifically for their, you know, their concept, whether it be
Refi or Regen or what have you.
So, I really do agree with the sponsor validation, though. Like, that's kind of a big onboarding
piece there is, like, how do we go to the locals and, you know, get them on board? Like, do we get
them to sign a petition? Do we get them to read, like, our bylaws? You know, like, do you agree
with this? Do you want to see the world moving in this direction? If so, like, let's jump on. What can
we do in your immediate sense right now to do something better every day, right? Like, we can get
these local establishments on doing something differently right then, right? Signing them on
and saying, this is kind of a new standard that we're trying to get out and see how we can kind
of mesh that into the immediate economy, you know? Yeah, I think that we should be really thoughtful
about the partnerships that we're having with the different event organizers on the ground and
brainstorming how we can add value to them, like we're talking about before as well, right? Like,
having this dome concept and can we gift that so it continues to be used? Who's going to find the
most use to it? Can we already find aligned people? I know that Non-Fungible Future has done a
sustainable festival in Thailand as well, not in Koh Phangan, but in a different part of Thailand. So,
yeah, bringing in these different collaborators and having value adds would be great. Okay, so
there were folks with their hands up. I feel like they just went down or did we get to all the hands?
Okay, so I haven't heard from Centropic or Udkarsh Peaceful. Oh, Lumine? Yeah, you put your hand down.
Did you have? Yeah, go ahead, Lumine.
Are you thumbs downing? Can you not speak? What's going on? Okay, Ed's joining us up here. All right,
go ahead, Ed.
Yeah, I want to ask from the strategy of global change to regeneration,
that's the way I would look at it from that direction. What's the strategy? What's the change?
And then how does this event
back that or support that or educate about that?
Instead of just looking at it from how do we create an event, it's got a goal.
And it's that goal that I would think you'd want to build the rent the event around. That's just my
thought. Thank you.
Absolutely, Brett. I mean, feel free if anyone wants to chime in here on what is the goal in my eyes,
it's to unite and grow the region movement. I think that within itself would make a positive impact.
Another aspect that I'm really passionate about is, you know, the goal of empowering change makers to
maximize their positive impact. I mean, obviously, that that's the theme of max impact.
And, you know, I'm always talking about that. But really, like when I did an IRL festival over in
Canada, people told me they were able to find their passion through some of these workshops that
we did, these dyads where you go back and forth asking similar questions. People would tell me
they co-founded nonprofits together on the festival grounds, like some some really cool stuff like
that is possible at these transformative events. So I don't know how we could tie that into our
mission statement. But but I think that'd be a pretty cool element as well as that
empowerment, that transformation towards positive impact. All right. I haven't heard from
Centropic yet. Go ahead, Centropic, and then we'll get to you, Oxygen, right after.
Hello, everybody. Good morning here. Yeah, I love the question of Ed. I think it's important
now that we're start of solidifying the event to start to think about the storytelling of the event.
I think the storytelling will say what's going to happen and what's like what's experience going to be
like. So in my eyes, in my opinion, I think, as Jimmy said, this event is to to to grow the
the region movement. Also, we have to create awareness of what's happening right now. And also
we have to to showcase the solutions that right now we're like there's there's around the world,
like there's a lot of beautiful projects going on that deserve visibility. And I think this festival
could be a platform for these projects to receive the visibility they deserve. So I think the
storytelling ties all those strings, I would say, like, it's the problematics, the the solutions,
and then we'll have to find the like the nirvana or just a moment where everybody's in deep happiness.
Love that. Absolutely. And I love that you're chiming in in the experience section, the experience
committee of our event and to thinking about storytelling. I think that ties into the experience
and the impact that we can have as well. Love it, love it, love it. Go ahead, oxygen,
and we'll get straight up with the Oodkars. So so the way I kind of see this is we're all charged
with change, right? So finding how we can change the current system to be a regenerative system.
And what regenerative means is finding, you know, closed loops, finding cyclical economies,
like finding ways to make it full circle. You know, capitalism is zero sum game, which means it
it cashes out. Nature is not like that, right? It creates an actual full cycle where everything
is supported by something else in that in that closed loop. So like the seven layer ecosystem,
that's what I what I focus on. And it's like biodiversity growth and connecting the dots
until you get to something that is self sustainable. So essentially, with this, if we create all the
parts, like like that, that compartmentalized piece, this where each each aspect refi, the movement,
the regen, like the actual agriculture part, food, like the waste, like all of that, if we look at
this is like a body, right? This this or this, this event is a body and each piece of that each like,
like the refi, the regen, right? Like the agriculture, the rebuilding of the planet, like that's the heart,
right? And then we've got like, the, the arms that do things that that help build that or intake and
our waste, like all of that has to be considered in a regenerative manner in a cyclical close,
closed loop. So charged with change is kind of the biggest thing is like, how can we make things
better? And how can we find the closed loop? How can we how can we close the loop? And how can we make
it full, full cycle? That's just as a core concept of that. So I think with adding those pieces and
getting these groups to focus solely on how they can create that in that aspect, like we'll create an even
bigger closed loop once we find each of those inner closed loops. So that's just the thoughts.
The inner closed loops. Got you. Okay, peaceful. Go ahead, buddy.
Yo, what's up? What's up, everybody? Oh, it's nice to be here. I think fifth of the sixth jam session on
this festival. And yeah, for starters, I feel it's, I kind of dig the whole exploration phase. But at the
same time, I feel like it's necessary to have some anchors also. And having been just dabbling in this
space for the last two, three years now, I think one thing clearly comes to mind is that it's an
absolute imperative that all these digital profile pictures that we are constantly talking to like
meet in one physical space. Because at the end of the day, we are like oxygen was saying, we are talking
about creating a new socio economic framework. And I think there is some amount of alignment that's
necessary in terms of what is this elephant of regeneration that all of us are talking about.
And to see like, where each project's strengths lie, and how one can plug and play into other people's
projects. Because yeah, I really dig the fact that like all of us are naively optimistic over here,
and all of us truly believe that we can make this happen. And that's sort of what keeps us going.
Because if we didn't, then none of us would be here. And, but that transition from the optimism to
making it a reality is a long one. And I don't think it happens if we don't meet enough, and we don't jam
enough. And we don't see as to like, how actually can we make it happen, because there's going to be
like 1000 moving parts for this to eventually become a reality because the kind of shift that we're
talking about is massive. And for that, one thing is very clear that it's necessary, if not more, all of
us, everybody that's even remotely active in this space, like makes it a point to meet once a year.
And that's basic. We might not bump into each other at different festivals and different events,
that's great cherry on top. But this is just core focused on what the whole regeneration refi movement
is all about. And that's what's driving me to like, make sure that we set a good example of this so
that it at least becomes an event that is continuing to happen once every year. And at the same time,
like I know that we're all very bullish on the space, and we want to like make a kick ass event out of
this. But I would want to be a bit of a bummer here. And I think yeah, just recognize the current market
conditions that we are in. And like, maybe try to go in tandem with like stretch our limits 100%, but have
some amount of a reality check in terms of what is possible to do as a first event. And given the
current market conditions, because, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I've seen both instances of people
like all collectives being able to dream very big, and then it falling flat on its face. And a lot of
instances when people are able to deliver on it. So I don't want to make judgments on that yet. But I would
like to work on something that is in the realm of possibility, and we're able to do a decent job that
sets a good example going forward. And yeah, I think it's it's necessary that we all come together. So
I think that is the anchor, at least for me, in terms of, you know, what's driving all this
and what's needed to happen. I think all of the designs that would flow from this
would then lead to a lot of beautiful things for sure. But yeah, that's that's the driving force.
The reality check. All right. All right. I hear you. Look, it is going to take a pretty substantial
amount of money to make this happen. Let's not sugarcoat it. Right. And yeah, you know,
it's it's like the old like, let's just sell tickets and hope that covers stuff like that's
really risky. And like, we really want to make sure that we cover our bases. And that's where
as we're talking on this, how far down the Burning Man rabbit hole should we go?
Topic is, you know, a little bit like unless we can literally have everyone put everything on,
and it's a community built thing. And people are volunteering, and maybe they're
retroactively rewarded. It's, you know, as an organizing body, you definitely can't just like
book a bunch of artists and put on a big production and then also hope that the ticket sales covers
that because you definitely have some external source of funding, or we literally are able to rely
on a local community to build this thing. And, and ultimately, yeah, make it happen.
So, Jimmy, just to add to that, like, you know, I think I've seen at least six to seven instances
of a bunch of people like organizing like a series of festivals, and then like they are in their eighth
or the 10th season. And one clear insight that has come to me, and this is a very personal insight that
um, the first three to four seasons, they all understand that they are not going to make any
surplus. But it's to build the brand and it's to build and set an example of sorts. And then maybe
the fourth year onwards, like you start to see some surplus kicking in. So they all start with the
understanding that we're not going to make anything for the first two, three years, but it's that
everybody really wants to, and they want to make it happen. So either, either it's like some people,
the core team funding the losses, or then finding some generous donors, which are like, you know,
plugging in the holes. Because, yeah, I am still to hear of an instance where at least the first one
in itself was able to make a bunch of surplus.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, no, not, not necessarily like surplus. But the first event that I organized,
we had donations per ticket built in from a foundation. So we were still able to raise tens of
thousands of dollars, even though the organizers lost a little bit of money, it wasn't a huge
amount. But, but yeah, no, it's, it's, yeah, definitely, we need an external funding source.
So we should definitely be looking at, you know, the funding committee, putting in the time. I do
think sponsorship is possible. I've had some sponsored conversations already with the likes
of like Kyoto, for example, that's pretty well funded, and I think would would jump on something
like this, you know, to help make it possible and cover those initial losses in the first few
years. But now we're like, okay, do we ban sponsors? Like, there are
refi blockchain, they funded my startup to do a million trees already before they launch.
And they built in 25% of transaction fees on their blockchain to plant trees. Like,
dude, why should we not promote something like that? It's freaking amazing. I mean,
in my view, I don't think we should be against sponsorship, we should be against greenwashing
that form of sponsorship that's not aligned. Obviously, I think we're on the same page there,
right? But when it comes to like, should we promoting Solopunk Dell? Like, hell yeah,
dude. Like, why not promote that? Why not promote Coconut Network? Like,
all you guys are doing amazing things. I love putting, I want to make the Regens like the next
rock stars of our generation. Put them on the pedestal, cheer them on, celebrate these Regens,
because you're all amazing humans, and you're all doing such great things in the space in your own
unique and special ways. You know, Ed's got his Regen Farm thing going on,
Centropic is using his art forms. He's supporting Tregen. He's also got his own Alucious thing going
on. We got Regen Buildup here. We got Song of Om, who's literally helping World Peace through her
healing medicines and practices and all these great things. You know, Paul's literally picking up
plastics. Jerry's making collages supporting Regens. I want to shine light on all you guys. Like,
you're all doing amazing things. And I personally am not against sponsorship. So I do want to move
on to the next when green tick mark. But if you guys have any final thoughts on our approach in
terms of, you know, should we be full Burning Man? Should we be ethical sponsorship that really
emphasize the gift culture aspect of Burning Man? I want to hear those final thoughts. And then we'll
move on to when. When Festival, friend. When Festival. All right. Centropic, go ahead. We'll get
to Oxygen right after. Yeah. Speaking about the sponsors, I think the sponsors can have a very good
place in the solutions. Then we just include them as part of the solution of the problem, right?
And then they get the credit for that as well. The solutions of the problem? How do you mean?
Yeah. I was just thinking on the storytelling. Oh, in the story. I like it. Okay. Yeah.
I mean, displayed on the event, if there's like a space where you can see which are the solutions for
making this world a better place, the sponsors can jump in there. You know, like they did,
they, they sponsored the event, but also, for example, Kyoto, they're doing all these things.
And we have like a place for Kyoto, a place for earth, a place for everything, right?
Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Again, a value add to the event, make it like an activation,
not in your face. Hey, buy this. This is good. It's like, no, make it like something engaging and
and add to the experience at the end of the day. That'd be great. I love your time too. Super key.
So two pieces, the whole, uh, what he just spoke on, like only you can prevent forest fires,
like you become the solution, right? So, um, like throw, throw the sponsors into that kind of
mentality of like, only you can, can solve this problem. Like, what is the solution? Uh, the second
part is, I think we're still looking at this like a music festival and it's not, it is a, an impact
festival. So like, if we, if we kind of shift that perspective, it opens up a whole lot of new
opportunities to market, right? We can start marketing to micro economies, little micro niches,
uh, little micro interests, like all over the region culture. So instead of focusing on like
big music, people bringing in our crowd, like focus in the impacts, right? Like the impact crowd,
bring in the people that are making change, like all these small projects, make them feel like
they're the solution because they are. And if we bring that value to a lower group crowd and build
it from the bottom up, we're going to create one, a longterm effect here, but we're going to solidify
that, that culture of regeneration and saying like they are the solution. So, and if we invite them in,
like we do with this group, I mean, it's completely open, right? These people that are doing these,
these amazing things, not on a global scale, but in a local scale can then, you know,
we can bring lots of founders in and those founders will bring lots of loyal supporters
into their group. And those micro economies will make this a macro economy. So just food for thought.
Love, love, love that. Anna, you're on the ground. I sent you a co-host invite. Let's get you up here
in co-host positions. All right. Uh, but go ahead, Anna.
Yeah. Yeah. I like those micro economies, uh, ideas. I, I really enjoy, uh, those micro economies.
And, uh, yeah, I, I, so I have to leave soon. So sorry, Jamie, I can't be co-host, but, uh, I just
wanted to maybe, uh, uh, give my opinion on the next question that you had. And I mean, Defcon is like next
year. And I mean, they haven't really said which country, um, it's going to be, but it's going to be
in Southeast Asia. And I think there are a lot of chances that it's going to be in Bangkok. Um,
cause yeah, like if you see like the infrastructure that they need for, uh, Defcon, um, it's probably
going to be in Bangkok. So yeah, if we could align, or even if it is, if it's in another country,
uh, close to Thailand, um, yeah, it would make a lot of sense to try to either do it like before
or after. So yeah, like there's more people, uh, from Web3 and more regions that are already gonna,
like, do the trip to Southeast Asia. Um, so yeah, just wanted to leave you guys with that. I'm gonna,
uh, be here for a few minutes, but I have to leave. Love seeing you all and see you in the next space.
Bye, everyone. No, don't go. No. Okay, I'll stay here more. Don't go. I'll stay here more.
Yeah, that was, but yeah, we should try to schedule it like close to Defcon,
cause there's going to be a lot of regions in Southeast Asia. 100%.
Yeah. You know, I thought this before, I'll say it again. What green-pilled me
was accidentally stumbling upon the sustainability blockchain summit in Paris off to ECC. Went there
for ECC and I'm like, oh, there's a sustainability blockchain summit. They're promoting it at ECC.
I'm like, all right, sure. Of course I'll check that out. Boom. Next thing you know,
I'm up to four in the morning talking about carbon forwards and, uh, and here we go. Here we are,
right? So, um, yeah, no, if we, if like, if, if, if a big conference like that's already bringing a
bunch of Web3 folks to Thailand, doing it right before or after is really, really smart. So,
I love that you said that, Anna. When you say DevFind, you talk about DevConnect.
Jimmy, Jimmy, aren't we glad you went to the sustainable blockchain summit?
I know, right? It's crazy. My life changed. This is the power of events, friends. This is
the potential of events. You know what I mean? Like, these are, all we are as humans is an
accumulation of experiences. And by having a transformative experience, it can literally
transform our lives and the trajectory that we go down. So, 100%. And the people that you connect
with these events, that can also be life changing. So, um, so yeah, when you say DevCon,
you mean DevConnect? Is that, is that the event you're talking about?
No, like legit, legit, legit DevCon.
Oh, DevCon is another event. All right.
Like the one that they did in Colombia last time. I don't know if you guys remember.
Um, but next one is going to be Southeast Asia. Let me look for the post and I'll put it in the
jumble drum.
Love it. Thank you for doing that, Anna. Let's all reach out to DevCon and find out. Because if
we can get that alpha, if they're doing Bangkok, let's align. Let's align, baby. Okay. So I think
that's a good transition to the next topic of when, unless people have some burning desires to touch
on the previous one. Go ahead. Uh, peaceful, I think it was, then Jerry.
No, I think it was Jerry. Go ahead.
Oh, Jerry first. Jerry, Jerry, get it, son.
Uh, just last thoughts. I 100% agree with you. I think that we should definitely be
using sponsorship as long as it's really aligned sponsorship, Kyoto, uh, Polygon, Solana,
all of the people that are really behind the refi movement anyway. I mean, they are
literally what we're doing. So having them as sponsors that they want to is genius. I think
it's a no brainer. Um, and the last bit I've got to say, I got to run guys. Uh, it's been great.
I've enjoyed listening to everything. I've just been in between meetings, but I have got to head
out to the next one. So keep it going. Can't wait for this to kick off. I voted on my favorite
thing. So you guys keep it going. Much love. Keep it growing. All right. Much love, Jerry. Thank you
for voting friends. Uh, it's in the jumbotron, the quadratic vote. It's three from the far left.
So tap that, click on the telegram. It's t.me forward slash region festival.
Get click on the governance channel and there's a quadratic vote. All you got to do is basically,
um, you know, find a link that doesn't already have a name next to it. Click that, put your votes
in. You can allocate your votes, use the QF formula. So if you don't have to pay money and then just put
your telegram handle and take the box that's bam takes you like a minute to do and would really help
us finalize our name, which is pretty crucial. We can't have these sponsor conversations without
a name or a time. So let's transition to the time. So I love that you said, Anna,
if we can find a big web three conference in the area, that's a huge advantage. We should
definitely think about that. Also in the last meeting, I want to point out and just recap
real quick that, uh, no, sorry, this is not the meeting. This was actually in our telegram.
Uh, Luminae and Vision was talking about, um, it being super hot in nine months. We, we've
set on the space before it takes nine months to, uh, what do you call it? Incubate a baby.
Uh, we think it's about the same to do a festival, right? So, um, at least nine months,
but nine months from now is super hot, super, super hot. Um, and not a lot of wind. So then
we're thinking about, okay, it kind of cools off towards the end of the year, like end of November
could be a good time. Um, so, but yeah, again, we also want to align with different events. So
these are all different factors. Like we want to balance, okay, are there going to be people around
that we can, you know, hopefully green pill some of these, you know, uh, full moon party goers.
Also it, how's the weather, you know, if there's tons of rain, if it's, you know,
going to be too hot. Um, all these different things are factors. Are there other events?
We don't want to overlap with other events. That's another thing to consider. So regions
unite events is hold on. Yeah. We were talking about this in the telegram in the logistics committee.
Um, if you're interested in logistics, we need to, there's going to be a lot of logistics stuff,
uh, that we're going to be talking about here. So, um, so yeah, let me just bring that up real
quick, just to kind of recap what was talked about already. Um, do, do, do, do, do. Yeah.
So regions unite is, uh, that was end of August. That's why we're pushing it back there.
And then when was the other one? Uh, just to add here, I feel, uh, from my understanding,
the ETH season in Europe starts in the beginning of July, uh, starting with ETH Barcelona,
then going to ETH CC and there are a bunch of like smaller ETH events. And then there's regions
unite and then there's crypto commons also that happens in Vienna, if I'm not wrong. And that's
like a whole two months to three months circuit. So at least from my point of view, I thought it
would be better if we could do this before the ETH season in Europe started. And that's why I was
trying to see if we could hone in on June end or something like that, but I would want Paul to
chime in and tell us if June end is in any ways conducive or it's not bearable.
No, I think June, uh, could be okay. If it'd be around full moon, that it's nice. And we have one
week kind of for events. So it's branch seven days around full moon and yeah, why not? We can
consider that. Okay. You think June is cool. The solstice is in June as well. That's a really
powerful time to do any type of ceremonial festival. Yeah. Summer solstice. Boom. There we go. First
day of summer. Let's grow. Let's grow. Um, so that sounds pretty cool. So we can land with some
solstice. So you're sure Paul that it's not too hot. Okay. That's because it's start of summer.
It's not like peak summer. Uh, it's of course, it's not the winter part, but it's kind of for me,
it's okay. I'm already two and a half year or more, more than like three or actually in Thailand.
I feel okay. Uh, I don't know. Maybe I'm be asked to be today.
Yeah. You're acclimated. That's acclimated for sure.
No, but like, if you're talking pure, uh, degrees Celsius, like, does it range between 25 and 30?
Because. Yeah. If you resolve it, you know, the same temperature actually. And now is the coldest time.
What now is the rain season and we have cold time. Actually, I use a jacket, uh, when I ride my bike
and in July, it's, uh, yeah, it's still hot. It's sun. Yeah. It's tropical island.
But it's not like, you know, we're not unbearable.
Okay. The way I see it is that like the Europeans could get some tan and I feel like for the tropics,
like we would be fine with 25, 30 anyways. So, yeah.
It's also a low season and, uh, maybe more accommodations will be available for people
to stay because, uh, high season is good, but, uh, last high season was pretty dense here,
you know, on, uh, accommodations of, uh, particularly.
Catch you. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Um, all right. And by the way,
if we're going to pick at this June time, we're just getting a little on the hot side,
we should definitely be thinking about a location with a big body of water, either by the beach
or by a river, you know, so people can just dunk in there and just cool off when it gets real hot.
Also think about shade, all these considerations, right? Of course, there's a no, uh, you know,
it's a given. We definitely need free, clean water for people to drink and refill bottles,
um, reusable bottles, things like that.
The death.
And I don't know if you're trying to unmute right now.
I think she accidentally unmuted.
Hi, sorry.
Oh, yeah, that was okay. It happens to the best of us. It happens to the best of us.
Oxygen, you want to chime in here, buddy?
Okay. So, um, a few things that were brought up was wildlife, right? Uh, not only the heat
and the cool, uh, to being able to cool off and water, but the wildlife, there's some, uh,
seasons for jellyfish. I'm not sure if there's shark season, but that's warm temperatures. Um,
also the, uh, I just had a brain fart. Uh, it was mosquitoes are wildlife.
Uh, mosquitoes, um, the, the time on, um, no, let me come back to this. Sorry.
It's okay. We'll come back. Gather your thoughts. And by the way, if something hits you later on,
drop it in the TG. We're talking about this, not just once a week, right? We are jamming on this
er day in our telegram community. It is up there. It's now four from the left. You know what? I'm just
going to get the actual direct link. Oh, it is in the chat. It's in the, it's in the thing. All right,
cool. So it's up there. Join the telegrams. And I know we're talking about when right now,
but also where is obviously pretty, uh, important topic. So, so Paul, what are your thoughts in terms
of where are there potentially like big bodies of water nearby there? Are there potentially
mangroves? Cause like a planting activity would be pretty damn cool to incorporate somehow.
What are your thoughts in terms of locations? Have you kind of, uh,
piece that together at some point?
Yeah, about location, it might be dry season actually that time and maybe some waterfalls
will be, uh, empty. Uh, but apart of that, we have sea around the island, obviously, right?
We can use it and we can, uh, have a hangout there and, uh, no worries on that. Maybe,
I don't know what weather will it be. And maybe in some area that's a jellyfish fish,
uh, fish, fishes, and they, there can be dangerous. So some. Oh yeah, we're talking about box jellyfish
before. Yeah. So it's actually. Let's avoid death by jellyfish if possible. It's pretty dangerous.
Need to be careful on that, but just need to not swim on during nighttime and not, uh, when it's wavy,
you know, and stormy. And yeah, uh, but yeah, we can find, uh, where to swim. We can have a hangout
in some places with swimming pool. For example, we can have, uh, I don't know, lunch or breakfast
with swimming pool, or we can have like just networking, uh, you know, how is it in a festival,
in big festivals, they just do it, um, uh, on, um, one field, right. But just different sections,
but here's could be just okay. You'll ride your bike like 10 minutes, uh, or like seven minutes.
And let's, uh, gather in this location. And this location has like nice swimming pool. We can just
like, uh, fresh there, for example. Yeah. Paul, just another bit over here was, uh, I know that
I think I'm forgetting the beaches name where you have all these multiple stages during full moon,
and there are like seven kinds of music going on. But let's say if you were trying to do this,
and are there other locations where we could like, say, set up a stage and, uh, conduct all
these activities? Like, are there other designated areas on the island where these things can happen?
I think in about, uh, half moon, uh, place or jungle experience, because they already prepared for
stages, for music, for like light, for anything actually. And I kind of, uh, again, we're doing
public good startups and we could do according to our resources. If we have a lot of money,
of course, you know, but, uh, everyone can do whatever with money, everything, but it's hard
and interesting to do without. So anyway, we kind of aim to, I propose to use already avenues that
already have everything, uh, for us. Yeah. That's kind of does make sense, right? Like, I mean,
if we can use avenues and then we can like do some decor that vibes with us. And I'm sensing that most of
the places over there, uh, 70, 80% of the job would already be done. Like they're all designed for
such events and such, uh, parties and stuff like that. So we might not have to spend a lot. And if it's
not particularly season time, then I feel like we could also get some better deals on being able to
like take the place for two, three days and stuff like that. Uh, what's the thinking there?
Yes. I think in that, uh, you know, uh, what we need, uh, and we have avenue we can negotiate and
yeah, if we have no alcohol, the main revenue from them, uh, is from alcohol, but maybe we can rent
in this part in this case. And, uh, we need to put money into decoration and lights, you know, to make
this feeling, to make a mood, to make all this important thing that we love. And you know what I
mean? And that's important. We can, uh, make, uh, some corners, you know, as mentioned before,
like for a genuine eyes, for like, uh, if I Pangan for three genes, you know, and it's only for this
event. And a part of that, as we mentioned before, we, uh, we'll try to do this, uh, mangrove plants
or like tree plants or three genes. And we have like some real, in real life, uh, regen events.
So with real kind of values, not just like party, party and like, blah, blah, blah. With speakers,
we kind of will do it, collect plastic on the beach. We will plant trees. We will do like direct
action that we also know and love to do because it's like real things, uh, not just, uh, spaces on
like some web three, some abstract, um, I think, uh, but I also value this, uh, a lot, uh, by the way.
Yeah. Back to you guys.
Super cool. Uh, friends, it's super quick, quick chill, uh, up in the, up in the
jumbotron there, uh, some impact alpha. Anyone who's around Europe or able to come to Portugal
this weekend, there's something called a refi week that's happening. Um, I'm going to be doing
a tree planting activity there. You can actually get 50% off the event by using tree gen underscore
refi. I pinned it up to jumbo, do the thing. We're able to come through. It's going to be
amazing in terms of co-working, co-living, amazing, like organic, healthy food, and just like workshops
galore. And hopefully a lot of great collaborations. And we're definitely talking about this event and how
it can involve all the nodes, all the chapters, all the amazing things that exist out there so
that we can unite this movement. Um, so check that out if you're able to come to Portugal
end of the month. Um, wow. Okay. There's a lot of hands. Who was first? Um, who,
hey, hello. Uh, just unmute yourself if you think you were first. How about that? Go ahead.
All right. It was me and then, uh, Syntropic, then Anna, and then Paul. Um, so leveraging these
other, these other events. Um, the full moon is a one night thing. It was up, right? So we're,
we're, we got this gripe about them leaving a bunch of trash behind and we're talking about
like a three to five day event, right? That engulfs the entire island. What if we set up
these multiple stages in those areas and leverage the other groups? Like we put the full moon event
in the middle of our event and then we go clean up their mess and we've leveraged the people that are
there. We onboard some of those goers to the full moon event into the web three to clean up that
trash to get the tokens to go to our event. Like just a thought.
Ooh la la. Yeah, we do want to green pill them. We do want to green pill them. So I'm open to all
that. So a hundred percent. Let's see how we can, you know, be side by side. Maybe it's right after
and we promote at that event. Maybe we do it, you know, uh, you know, it's tight and somehow
definitely. Okay. So you said next, they need a stage. Like if they need a stage,
we'll have a stage there, right? Like we can call them up and be like, you know, we, we talk with
them and coordinate and be like, we could rent you the stage for a cheaper price because like,
we're already going to do it, but they're going to need to be there to, you know, leverage them.
Yeah. So I went to the full moon party, uh, when I went to Pangan and it seemed like they pretty
much had like venues. So one of them was like a big stage, but pretty much the others were like
venues, like established, you know, kind of buildings. And so I don't know if they could just like,
I mean, definitely there's different side organizers. Maybe Paul,
I don't know if you want to chime in there, but, um, it's, yeah, it seemed like they were
pretty much like situated in a specific area, but maybe we can be not too far away from that.
You know what I mean? And then have this immediately after the full moon and then they can do that.
And then we could do this like conference during the week and then do our own celebration the
next following weekend. Okay. And I think you're up next. Go ahead, Anna. Was it? Yeah, I think it was Anna.
Yeah. I just wanted to, um, add that, like, let's not think only about like partying. Um,
cause like sometimes like if you're in a city, um, I mean, I don't know, you're in Barcelona or
something, uh, you have to like party, you know, but we are in nature where like an island and like,
there's so much beauty in this island, uh, that it would be like a shame for us to just party.
I mean, of course, partying is amazing. Like you guys know that I love music and I love partying,
but, um, but yeah, like, for example, like I went to Colombia, um, like in the times of DEFCON.
Um, we had this amazing experience in the greenhouse retreat, uh, where we like ended up like, um,
strain, like in a tropical, uh, rain and, uh, some like indigenous communities like helped us go back.
Uh, but like this experience for me is like way more memorable and it made me feel like way closer to
those like, uh, uh, founders and unlike, um, yeah, like people like in, in our industry. Um,
yeah, like that experience had made me, had made me feel like way more closer to them,
like in a lot of levels than like, for example, going to the same, uh, with the same crowd to a
party, you know? So I think like we have that element that creates like these wonderful connections,
like based on like nature and like on, I don't know, risking your life, like trying to cross a
river or whatever. Um, but yeah, like, I think like we should like really, uh, explore that.
Oh, a hundred percent. The actual party part of this, um, speaking of party, John here, uh,
as in the audience, if you're able to come contribute, would love to hear your two cents
to you. But you know, the, the, the festival aspect is going to be a small part towards the
end, which is the celebration to really bring us all together. The vast majority of this experience
will be a conference. It will be keynotes. It will be deep workshops. It will be going into nature,
actually doing the thing, you know, picking up plastics, planting trees. Like that's going to be the
vast majority of this experience. And then it's going to culminate with a festival that will
really bring us all together and celebrate and be a fun time towards the end. But, but yeah,
definitely that's not going to be the only thing and it won't even be the focus really. I mean,
I think that could be something that could make it bigger, uh, but it's, it's yeah, definitely not
going to be the focus. And I love the idea of how we're talking about these experiences in nature.
So as we're really thinking about the location, um, we should be really thinking about how can we
actually immerse ourselves in nature and this region kind of vibe and culture. Love it.
Love it. Love it. Love it. Um, Oh, by the way, last time we were in here, John mentioned,
like, what if we do a satellite event at, um, at, uh, ETH, uh, Colorado, was it a Denver?
Um, so like instead I think, yes. And I think if any of y'all want to do a satellite event
at a, at a conference, like, please try to do so. Um, I know that, uh, the green pill chapters are
doing a lot of satellite events. Some of them are more, um, you know, educational,
others are more celebratory. So I think that like collaborating with groups like the green pill,
or, you know, you could make this whatever we end up calling the name of it, but doing satellite
events, I think would be a great promotional activity for the main festival as well. Um,
I think we should definitely do that in addition. And I'm, I'm, I'm potentially going to, uh,
dev connect and, and trying to collaborate on a satellite event there too. So yeah, once the details get
more, uh, you know, um, set in stone, I think we should definitely be thinking about satellite events,
which could help promote the main festival. Um, but, uh, but yeah, immersing in nature, all about it.
Okay. Over to you peaceful. Then we get a centropic.
Damn dude. I forgot what I was raising my hands for, but I want to just like take ahead what Anna
was saying. I feel maybe like in terms of percentages, I would think the party points would be like 20,
25%, not more than that. Cause ultimately like the goals are different. And for us to achieve the goals,
like everything that you said, right, like workshops and like keynotes and like all these other jamming
sessions and stuff like that, that's a lot more like important. And yeah, uh, on top of it,
I wanted to know if not June, cause like, I mean, the point is to know when, um, what are the other
alternates that we could keep in mind and then discuss around that? So I feel like maybe June is
certainly one option, but what's the other option? So the other option would be at the end of November
is what we're, what Luminae and Vision was talking about in our, oh great, Luminae's back here. Um,
so we're talking about that in the telegram because that's when things start to cool off a bit.
So it's not too hot. Um, and then yeah, around that time, I suppose, not getting too far to December,
but like end of November vibe would still be kind of cooling off. Um, and I don't know,
what do you thought Luminae? Why are you, why are you crying? Uh, tell us Luminae,
what are your thoughts on the time? Sorry. I'm just not in the mood today. I'm very sick,
but yeah, I'm not crying actually. I'm thinking that, uh, I didn't mention end of November because
November is still raining season. I think it was maybe October or September. I don't know.
Yeah. Okay. I thought we were remembering the telegram. All right. November, October. So yeah,
around that time, we tested times to cool off. Um, so Paul was saying even like June, not too bad,
as long as there's a big, uh, body of water nearby, but then there are box jellyfish that can kill
people. Is that a thing? Is that a thing in June? It kills, uh, definitely the kids. I think if you
guys get bitten, you'll go in hospital, but it happens. Yeah. That's a summer thing, isn't it?
Yeah. It starts in off season. June is, so when, when are there not killer jellyfish? I'd really
love to avoid that. I mean, we can try to, you know, lifeguard as much as we can, but I'd rather just
avoid that. I don't know. From my experience, um, they stop, not, not really stop completely,
but start to leave around September, but this every year can be different.
Okay. So we'll start thinking around September time. I mean, things start to cool off. There are
several benefits of a little bit later in the year, but a time to plan wouldn't hurt. Um, so
yeah, I think let's look at that. And then also think about these other conferences that are anyway
bringing a lot of people and it's a Bangkok that we could green pill over to Pangan. All right.
So go ahead, buddy. Yeah. Uh, I just wanted to say that it's also important to, um, um,
yeah, like honor the place where we will do the event. Right. So speaking about the culture,
talking about a little bit of nature there, like, uh, like the, uh, everything, no fauna flora. So
people can also, uh, know where they are going, right. To, to just make people aware that they're
in a natural place, that it's an island in the middle of blah, blah, blah. And, and, and I don't
know, just try to include in this whole event, a little bit on information about this place to
honor it. Right. Cause we're doing it there. So that would be cool. And about the satellite events,
I think it would be a great idea to, to just create like, I don't know, this, this, this will
be part of the logistics, but maybe just create a round of satellite events before the event.
So people can be aware that this event is coming. So I think, uh, that's a good strategy to, to, uh,
bring people to the, to the festival. Yeah. And I love that Anna is still here.
It was, it was, it was like, don't go. Uh, did it hit you? Did you remember what you want to say?
Yeah, no, I think, I don't know if this is again, a point of discussion for today, but, uh,
thoughts, I feel, uh, on maybe we get some range of what we are aiming for in terms of people. So that
I think, uh, more planning can flow according. And at least from my head, it was, I was thinking
maybe like 200, 300 people from the space that all the nodes and the chapters and the projects and
like everyone put together. I don't think there are more than three, 400 people that are active,
but I could be grossly mistaken. So what's, what's like the number range that we're looking at,
like zero to 500 or 500 to 1000, or then like, are we dreaming bigger? And what's, what's the take on
that? Got you. Yeah. You know, we've said 500 is like a reasonable goal in year one. I think that,
I think it might be like budgets can, it might depend on budget. You know what I mean? Like if we
get a big sponsor, a big grant, and therefore we can bring in a big musician, that could,
could draw a pretty serious crowd, you know? Um, I like to be, but then again, there's,
we're doing this as a hybrid event, right? So it's going to be IRL plus digital. Um, so the total reach,
when I did digital impact festival, when I couldn't do my IRL festival, uh, this was in 2020,
the total reach, we added it all up 3.5 million people were reached online. So the digital potential
of this, I think is way bigger than the, the IRL. Yeah. You give me a little applause,
but actually my goal was 2 billion. I have this crazy goal because I don't know if you,
I don't know if you, uh, heard of the festival called Live Aid, but this happened in the eighties
and, uh, it was a charity festival and they reached 1.9 billion people on the television.
The IRL festival, both in, uh, the UK and in New York, I believe it was. And, um, and then they
broadcasted it to the world and they reached 1.9 billion people. And so, and so that was my goal.
I was like, look, they made it so close to the 2 billion. How can we go for 2 billion? I had all
these crazy marketing ideas to make it happen. And like, you know, we shot for the stars and,
you know, we landed on the moon as maybe Lunco might draw as an analogy. So I think we should have
like big ambitions, um, you know, not over promised. We're not going to tell the public.
We're definitely going to do 20,000 people in Y1 or even 2000 people. You know, I think 500 is like
pretty reasonable, but I think we should be shooting for like a couple thousand. I think
that's like, that'd be like IRL. Like it's possible if we really try hard and we bring in the funds and
we bring in, we make, you know, some, some influential people and we market really well. I think it's
possible to bring in. Yeah. Like you said, maybe there's three, 400 people from like the refi
community. Right. But then we can just green pill a bunch of other people as well, you know,
from the full moon, from this conference in Bangkok, bring them in. I don't know. Is that,
is that wildly outrageous as a, as a goal or what do you guys think?
No, I think it's, uh, I was going to say the same, like aim for the stars land on the moon is a
good strategy to employ. Um, it's also, uh, speaks to how we design the festival, right? Like if it's
geared towards the refi community, the region community active in the space, and then we design
the whole festival accordingly. Or then if we have the, uh, the goal of being able to green pill others
and we're at the island or like, if we want people to come down, then maybe the festival is designed
in different ways. So I think maybe like what we're getting at is that the priority is for the community
to get together. And then whatever offshoots that come off that, like we can see how to incorporate
other goals in it, but still the anchor being that it's, it's to get the people in the space
together and align values and see what the goals are and see how we can like, like get to know each
other better and stuff like that. And then like, if you're having a bunch of like music acts and stuff
that, that would be of some interest for others. And if you're, let's say, trying to conduct
workshops and stuff specifically to like onboard people into the space. So like, it's, it's how we
design would like cater to like what we end up attracting. Right. So it's necessary to know what
we're trying to attract to design also at the same time. So, yeah.
Beautiful. Love it. Love it. Love it. All right, friends. I think that has been an amazing space for
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