thank you for your patience man i never start these things late never but there was a
keep on searching now what happened to your table where's
my my setup is getting increasingly more complex as time goes on uh oh and it's more complex too did you see the note i shot to you today uh no i did not tell me
yeah x has x has uh upgraded their media oh studio now yeah yeah and so you can do
a direct connect between uh talk studio and x now talk studio and x direct connect um yeah
follow your ride back it already is directly connected what do you mean no no no no no so like
right we did uh connect to x from talk studio but on the replay the broadcast was no longer available
well now i discovered today if you connect it directly to x back to talk studio it'll keep that
replay on platform on the x platform okay we might have to set up a meeting to do a little walk yeah
yeah let's do that let's definitely do that um all right let's have a little peace though
you're already behind oh man all right great well it would not be max impact unless we did a tune
so now that i got things growing okay i'm gonna need to see some emoji reactions once this is
started though because last time i played a song uh it didn't actually grow through into the spaces
and i was just like let's grow like insane random words but it was just silent okay not now not now
when you hear music okay wait for it wait for it i'm gonna need a little one check
they'll give me the thumbs up give me the fists uh if this is coming through so this is a certain
part of a mix that i heard today while i was training for the guinness world record tree
planting thing very soon okay so 2019 okay we're gonna go a certain part of this mix this
was like a dope kind of affirmation beat but it was also like bass music but it had these positive
words that i think y'all should hear so allow your eardrums to be pleased by this uh
by this part of the song and then we'll get cracking in just one memento okay thank you
for your patience all right all right all right hold on here we grow here we grow okay hold on okay
my bad does this sound super echoey by the way or is it is it okay
sorry guys yeah just like rummaging through i did two trips back to my place for two separate things
for the stream i thought it was all in the co-working area because i left like 90 percent of my stuff
in the co-working uh in panggan by the way this is a really interesting concept of a uh
automated co-working area so like they literally just went through like this and then they just
by the way this is a really interesting concept of a uh automated co-working area so like they
literally have no staff zero staff it's just like a bucket where you put your money and they trust
you like there's just trust to do that and people come through they do i mean there is a camera
but like it's it's just super chill like they're just leave the money and uh and then you get
coffee and you get things like this so probably the next let's grow uh 24 seven marathon will
be here i'll be live putting panggan in these in these co-working areas because it is literally 24
seven and completely automated okay let's see if this works okay ready for it okay do you hear this
all right back in the music this one was all right we're hearing it we're hearing it okay excellent
excellent all right let's go i want to see some emoji dances oh wait is this part of the song
hold on i think it's the wrong part of the song but hold on
there's definitely no way i described of the affirmation music
at the edge of every end and new beginning
Oh, here we are found it.
I found the part of the mix.
Welcome to affirmation station.
Hearts up and spreading love.
I don't need to be like them.
I just need to be like me.
I don't need to be like them.
I just need to be like me.
All right, so Matthew is a spaces king.
I mean, the guy is always in spaces.
He is currently in a another Twitter space.
I think he saw that I hadn't like started right on time and then he like he's just continuously
So everyone, I need you to go to the comment section right now.
It's at MLB in W a that's at oh, there he is.
Go to the comments and type.
But don't, but don't put an apostrophe in your hashtag guys.
You can do hashtag let the rest will not be included.
Let's, yeah, let's pollute more, let's chop down every tree and take every fish out of
That'll make us all better and happier, won't you?
And what have you done with Matthew?
Hello, amigo and amigas, how are you?
Hey, no, yeah, anyway, I'm not embarrassed, but, you know, I'm a professional four-wheel
driver and stuff like that and I just got a rail car stuck.
I just picked it up a couple hours ago and I was planning on going home, letting Adam
off the leash and, you know, letting all the five puppies and get it on my computer and
doing all this multi-stream stuff.
Anyway, and it's an important lesson.
The goal remains the same, plans can change.
The goal of what we're doing remains the same, our plans change.
We adapt, we evolve, and what are we doing?
And the best of Web 3 is collaborating more, cooperating more, and this is what I learned.
Everything I'm telling you right now is things that I learned.
So you don't have to give me an ego stroke or say, oh, you did this, did that.
Because if you're calling me a legend, you're actually, I'm, I learned from legends.
You know, so I'm, you know, I'll be 60 this year, and I feel like I'm 22.
But you know, I'm 59 and a half, so I'm less than half a year away from being 60 years
I have to grow up a little bit more next year, but I don't want to, because you adults, you're
just like letting the world go to hell, and I don't like it, so I'm going to be a kid until
you little, you adults, you got to take care of one another, love one another as I have
Anyway, yes, we're going to have fun.
We're going to rock and roll.
So Jimmy, how are you doing, brothers from another mother?
Yo, my guy Matthew just doesn't even hesitate, just goes straight into the mad wisdom and
All right, friends, I'm doing well.
Thank you for, yeah, that's, that's such a great reminder, isn't it, that like our plans
can change, but the goal is always there.
We are rolling with the punches, baby.
I haven't typed, let's grow in the comments yet.
And retweet it while you're there.
I think the G stands for grow.
Cowagumba said, let's grow and will did the thing with the hashtag correctly without
Maybe we growing all right.
We growing live on the videos.
It's gonna be me talking to space.
He's stuck in a car somewhere.
It happens to the best of us.
In fact, so have no worries.
And we have on a few different X platforms.
Once upon a time, there were beings who wanted to create something.
These beings carefully guarded an aspect of consciousness called light.
At different times, these guardians of light met and worked together in the different realms
And they designed a time when their plan would go into effect.
And each of you knows in the deepest portions of your being that you have come here for
You are beginning to feel what may be coming.
Hello and welcome, everybody.
To the Max and Puck Show.
This is the Live A Spaces Show.
This is the Live A Spaces Show.
This is the Live A Spaces Show.
This is the Live A Spaces Show.
This is the Live A Spaces Show that is all about empowering you, the change makers, to
maximize your positive impact in the world by leveraging the latest and the greatest of
With me today is none other than my brother from another mother.
This is Matthew L. Bonsteada.
He's growing the movement left, right, and center, supporting with miraculous spaces.
This guy was with us when we did the first 24-7 spaces for two weeks that we did.
He was with me when I did the 60-hour mega space to get the attention of Mr. Beast, and
he contributed 111 NFTs to that.
He is now growing the movement through a worldwide refi network with 144 refi founders.
The man is making an impact, he's a veteran, he is a business extraordinaire, he's a great
human being, just all around a great dude.
So if you're not following Matthew, do that right now.
Matthew, you've been here so many times, I'm sure you can answer, you know which questions
It is what's your why, what's your purpose, what gets you out of bed in the morning, what
fuels you to do all the amazing things you do, because clearly you are fueled, my friend.
You've got that fire inside of you, so lay it on us, what's your why?
Well what gets me out of bed in the morning is puppy dogs.
I got five risky puppy dogs, I got Simba, Nomad, and Adam, and I just got two, and one was actually,
I got to check the name again, Bill or Billy something, and then little girls are about
three months old, they're black like shepherd puppy dogs, and they're amazing, they're so
cute, and puppy love is good for us.
So anyway, the why, it really is faith first, and it is about love, it's about grace, it's
about repentance, it's about forgiveness, and it's about what every core religion and faith
believes at the core really.
So that's why we should not hate other people and judge other people, you know, because usually
we're taking things out of context, and usually the people that are telling us don't
even know that they don't know what they don't know, and that's okay, then they're done about
We're in 2024 now, you know, Jimmy and I know, I mean, we know all the top experts
on X on ReFi, and they know us.
And Jimmy's a legend, and he's a brother from another mother, and I can't wait to see him
But we'll do it through the metaverse first, but you've got to buy him a token, it's going
to be a rug pull, it's going to get from what's in this thing, I'm going to pull out
like $111 million, and I'm going to buy a yacht now.
Anyway, we're going to have some fun here.
I'm a comedian, I've been studying comedy for 50 years, and I do cuss, and I learned
about Richard Pryor, and I watched a lot of Richard Pryor stuff, and so I would not disagree
with anyone saying, hey, look, you shouldn't be cussing, children could be listening.
And I would say, okay, I would agree with that sentiment, and I understand.
Are you as upset about the pollution, and the injustice, and the slavery, and yada,
yada, because if you're not working on those solutions, why would you get upset?
So actually, I'm a teacher, I'm a student teacher, and actually no news is bad news.
I mean, I've been around behavioral science consulting since 1979, I've studied so many
people, and I failed at it over and over again.
I knew what to do, knowing what to do is easy.
Doing it is what makes a difference, and here's what they said.
Doing something new for like 28 days in a row, like if you're not walking right now
and you're overweight, walk for 28 days in a row, and that's your goal, and then you'll
see that you'll be able to continue.
Or do yoga, or do Pilates, or do whatever it is that you want to do.
Do what you want to do, and if you don't know what you want to do, that is your job.
Find out who you are, what are you passionate about, what are your gifts, what are your
Now, not everyone's supported in that, but we, the people, are coming together.
Because the top scientists, to get back to where I was at, the top scientists say, we
do not have another 10 years, we do not have another decade.
What we do now, in the next three years, is critical, critical, critical.
I thought it was critical in 2000.
I was like, Jimmy, the sky's falling, you must listen to me, you must do this, you
The average person doesn't have to get it, and this is what I learned in activism, I've
been around it for like 33 years, actively, and this is what I've learned.
We are going to do it, and that's the good news.
We have to listen to one another, not everyone is going to get it, and if we get all stakeholders
to the table, like big oil, big energy, and yada, yada, yada, and big building,
we've got to take care of our prison system in America, it's horrible.
We're not reforming people, we're punishing people and treating everyone like that, and
I heard that on a space today with people.
I've been on, I don't know how many thousands of spaces in different varieties, but mainly
Because I've been around the sustainable regenerative movement for 33 years.
My goal was to educate other people, and then bring great artists with heart in there,
and then have the refi people meet the artists, and that's where we get to change.
Because if you're in your ivory tower, and you're great, and you know everything, that's
great and wonderful to you, and you're making millions of dollars, that's great.
But what about the average person?
Because if you're not, we need to educate them.
And I would be hard on not everyone in the refi movement, but some in the refi movement.
I can criticize myself in the past as well, but I have invited so many people to my regular
spaces of NFT artists with heart, and this and that, and less than probably 1% come.
I'm not judging them, but I'm saying, how are we going to have the exponential shift
that we need, not would like, or not would desire, that we need?
How are we going to get that if we don't talk to other people and communicate with
I have 144 board of directors, 72 over 40 in different skill sets, different passions, but
The same way for our children, in seven generations of children yet to be born, which is what
I learned from my sisters and brothers in America.
I have lots of shaman friends and Native Americans and indigenous.
I've been around 33 countries, and there's so many amazing, I met amazing people in every
And so the 1% of us, that's 80 million of us.
So our network is meant to work with 80 million of us.
And I'm a piece of the puzzle.
Jimmy's a massive piece of the puzzle, and each and every one of you is a piece of the
So when we value ourselves, find our gifts, or work on finding our gifts, and heal and
forgive and all that stuff.
And I learned in like 1999 or 2000, because I wanted to change the world, I was in 1999,
because I traveled and saw the poverty and greed on both sides, and I'm like, okay,
Dr. Springer's work is what I taught and certified people in, and there's six different factors
I cannot not do what I'm doing.
I'd rather die than not do what I'm doing, which being a student teacher and learning
for people like Jimmy, and everyone in this space, I can learn from every single one
We've got Beanie, we've got a wordsmith in the room here, Beanie, another brother
from another mother who really is like the best, you know, impromptu wordsmiths that
I know on on x, you know.
So yeah, we have so many amazing artists.
So you're an artist here, I appreciate that.
And I'm gonna give you a Lamborghini and lots of millions of dollars for being here.
Yeah, I'm gonna bribe you to get a guinea for the beanie.
All right, so the why, yeah, did I cover the why, Jimmy?
No, that was an excellent answer to the why.
And there's a lot of things to dig into there, like how we can bring on these big established,
you know, like the oils and the coals of the world to like actually make the difference
without like greenwashing it, right?
I think like that's the problem.
Like a lot of people to hear that and they're like, oh, how could how could anyone work
with a company like this?
It's like greenwashing in as succinctly as you can in as few words as you can think about
What do you think, Jimmy?
So I think greenwashing is where very little, very minimal and insufficient impact is done
But it is really propagated through marketing channels, right?
So they're benefiting their brand to try to play into this.
So look how green we are when very in reality, it's extremely minimal, the impact and insufficient.
I think that's what really rubs people the wrong way.
Well, you know, I just came to this planet yesterday.
You guys don't have any advertising agencies or public relations agencies on the planet
do you that work with corporations to try and say some message that may not be true?
I'm sure such things exist, you know, that yeah, so green, green, green washing to me
is you're you're trying to portray that you're doing good, but you're really not.
Or not at the level that you're praying.
So it's a kind of false advertising, isn't it?
If you're an artist or a business person and you're designed to get your message across
less is more and practice makes perfect or perfect or you know, we don't got to be perfect.
But we're we are living perfectly in the perfectly imperfect world and we're not perfect.
So this has been a this has been a long time coming for you, hey, like you've been talking
about things like decades, 30 years or something like this when you do it.
At June of 1999, I went to the Phoenix whole life expo and there was maybe, you know,
I don't know if there was 150 or 200 booths, but there was a lot of different booths because
the big, you know, Phoenix is bought for many people.
So it's a big, you know, exhibit hall and you have lots of exhibits going on at the same
And I met some very interesting people there.
And I already had the passion.
You know, in in 1992 at Arizona State University, I took a communications class and I got a choice
if I remember correctly, maybe four, five subjects, I don't know.
And I picked Superfund sites.
And then so I did research on what a Superfund site is.
And it's a big polluted area from like, you know, a DuPont or a Motorola where they have
the dioxins and different chemicals and they put them in there and there's a mixture of,
you know, whether it's 100 or 50 or 200 different chemicals, you know, it just depends.
And so if you have an oil spill, mycelium and other natural things can break it down.
But if you have a concoction of 100 or 200 different chemicals, that's not natural.
Nature can't really deal with that quickly.
So I got into the movement of environmentalism and activism.
And back then I was emailing people and phone calls and, you know, heavy media and stuff
You know, so I've been active here on activism since 1992 because I was awakened because I
studied something and I'm a researcher, you know, my Uncle Ron's a PhD scientist and
taught university students to be science teachers, my father into business and mathematics and
But I grew up, you know, and for me, the faith is the most important thing, you know.
And so, you know, love your enemy as yourself, you know, love one another as I have loved
And I found out, what is your neighbor?
Your neighbor is not the person living next to you, although it can be.
The neighbor is somebody that's in need.
So if you're driving and you see someone broken down on a road and there's no going
to be in the cars, do you stop?
You know, so your neighbor is not just the person next to you.
It's somebody that is in need.
If you can do it, you know, if you're a woman and it's dark and it's a man and you don't
just call the police and say, hey, look, there's someone that's broken down and I didn't
feel comfortable to stop in the system.
The guy was drunk and staggering, you know, so yeah, you know, use your intuition, you know,
follow your heart, not just your mind and ego, because our minds and eagerness is what
Our minds and egos make great servants, but they make poor masters.
Your heart is your master, your soul, your heart, and that's your, your, your goal.
If you don't know who you are and what you're passionate about, that's your job is find
out who you are and what you're passionate about.
If you're old and you know what you're doing or older and you know what you're doing, you're
And there's so many millions of amazing people that I've met.
I mean, come on, Jimmy, how many amazing people I've met and studied in the last 33
Oh, man, I can only imagine.
I like that you're faith driven.
I've noticed that in the title of some of your spaces as well.
I consider myself to be a spiritual person.
I think that there's so many great teachings to be found in religion, like all those ones
Like those are all wonderful teachings.
And I think a lot of people are making a positive impact through different religious institutions.
Now, on the other side of that coin, like other people have used religion to kill,
like killing in the name of religion and have done terrible things in history.
So where does it go wrong and how can we make sure it goes right, such that these different
religious organizations can really be united and ultimately fuel this regenaissance or the
positive impact that is possible for all of these wonderful faith-based groups?
Well, and that's a great question.
So just real quickly, Les, there's more.
I have joined the Parliament of Interfaith and I know of them, but I have not been active
with them, not been to any conferences or anything.
I don't know what they know about me or whatever.
I did have somebody in a Christian organization that I was not a member of say, hey, would
you like to be a global ambassador for peace?
And I said, what's it about?
And so I went through a training and it was over a couple of weeks or whatever.
And then I got a certificate that I passed and stuff like that.
And most of the stuff I already knew because I've been studying, been living Christianity
for 59 and a half years and I've done a deep dive into it.
I'm like a self-studied New Testament scholar.
I'm not an expert in the Old Testament, although I did read it once, but the New Testament
And there's 40,000 different denominations of Christianity alone, but I have one book
and I have one book that is the parallel sayings of Lao Tzu, Krishna, Buddha, and Christ.
And they say the same thing.
So that's where, you know, you know, I have, I have friends who are Sufi, they're Islamic,
they're Jewish, they're into Kabbalah, they're atheist, they're agnostic.
It doesn't matter if you're a good person, I could be friends with you.
So, united we stand, divided we fall, united we stand, divided we fall.
So whoever's ever been ruling this planet, I don't know who it is.
I don't know if, you know, if this is, what is that?
What is that movie, the Old Movie, The Wizard of Oz?
So I don't know who the Wizard of Oz is, but are they working for the people in their
best interests worldwide?
We have a United Nations for 75 years.
So I'm not going to judge it.
I'm not going to hate it.
And this is what I learned in activism and my faith.
Because if you, if, because like Jimmy, if we just met in the bar and I've been drunk
and I'm, you know, and so I'm not my normal self or wherever and I, you know, I had a
bad day and I'm just in the bad mood and you saw a really angry asshole, you might
And, you know, bad mother, yeah, I kind of lose my train of thought here.
You almost dropped a Fibonacci there, but yeah, it's okay.
It's a safe place if you want to express yourself through, you know, uncouth words.
I think as long as the intention is there, right?
Like I don't mind swear words if the intention is, you know, in my daily life, I don't
In my daily life, I don't swear normally.
So if I'm around a bunch of people who are swearing and stuff, um, I can talk that
Because that's, that's their language.
They're comfortable with it.
You know, when I had children, when I had children on there, usually I would
say, all right, it's PG 13.
I don't think there's children here.
Wait with your child, wait with your, now it's 24 now it's 24 now it's 2024.
So I am, I'm shifting and I'm changing and we as a planetary species are, I see
the good, I see that, you know, blockchains in a bull market, NFTs in a bull
And if you're new, you're young, you're struggling.
You can change your life.
Not me, not Jimmy, not any of us.
If you want to change your life, you have to listen to masters and experts.
You know, my uncle, good advice.
My uncle Ron was dyslexic and he got a PhD.
I think I can, the little chain, little choo choo chain, I think I can.
I think I can, you know, seriously, I, I have been driving that, that I learned
for the last almost two years now on, you know, middle of February will be two years.
Most people don't listen, most people, and that's okay.
It's just a factual statement.
You don't have to change if you want to be in pain, like I've been in pain and you want
to do the same thing over and over again, expect different results.
You are the master of your own ship.
And believe me, I was my own worst enemy many times, and I know about a lot of different
Been here, done about the t-shirt, but let's keep this more positive and focused.
I mean, Jimmy and I know so many people and get coined and give it in a refi movement.
And now so many artists, you know, we know them and they know us and we're retreating.
And, you know, I'm, yeah, we're, we literally got, you know, Dr. Foley did the research at
Project Drawdown, which was started by Paul Hawken, who I met live talking at the Bioneers
and San Rafael and, um, and I got there by accident synchronicity, um, you know, driving
my motorcycles and I'm taking film videos up up the coast from Ventura up to San Francisco
and we meet his daughter and she worked for the Bioneers and I heard they were booked.
So we couldn't even buy a ticket.
There was like thousands of people that are there for, I think it was a three day conference
I'm not sure it was, you know, 2000.
And then I heard that needed a security guard.
I'm like, well, shit, I was, you know, the cub scout, a boy scout, a wee blow in a marine
and the security guard in California and in Arizona.
And I paid my own expenses and I got to walk into anywhere I wanted, see the books, meet
the people, you know, the vendors and health food and native American indigenous people.
And I, when I traveled, I would always go to the health food stores, buy their food and
then I would see the local handcrafts and I would buy that when I go to Africa, I
go to the places where I bought a drum from an African guy who made it with his son,
you know, so I'm not against big corporations.
We have to get them to change because if we don't, we're not going to make it, Jimmy.
You know that I, I guess someone, maybe the tow truck's coming.
So anyway, I don't know if she's supposed to, are you going to get towed during this space?
So buddy in the car, are you going to be in the car when they tell you are right now?
While they tell you, you know, it's a car that has low clearance and I, you know,
I'm a four wheel driver, so I normally have high clearance vehicles.
Um, it, there was like two tires and you know, cause it's on the end of the parking lot and
I knew it was, and I had a feeling, you know, a bad feeling literally I did, but there was
no parking and I had a meeting.
And I wanted to make the space.
I wanted to be at home with the computer and do the monthly stream and do all that.
But yeah, you know, but you made it, you made it, like you said, the plan may change, but
the goal remains the same and I like what you said about, yeah, exactly.
There's always curve balls.
There are always curve balls and you know, we can, we can avoid, you know, maybe some
of the setbacks by learning from the people who have been there, done that, who have
the wisdom as you were saying, and that also reminds me.
So Evan Carmichael, this is the first person I ever interviewed, by the way, for a podcast
before I even launched the podcast.
And it's also my biggest ever guest.
Uh, the guys got like almost 3 million subscribers.
Um, but, uh, he, and I, I got him on the thing through a live stream, but basically,
so he does these top 10 rules for success.
I really recommend you guys check these out on YouTube.
All the big entrepreneurs and successful, you know, uh, and leaders and all these
different things they share, like they've done tons and tons of interviews and like,
he goes through all of them and finds the top 10 rules for success.
And so like listening to those is, is I think really impactful.
But another thing in his, in his recent book, he talks about how a purpose and a passion
So we were saying about how like you, you experienced these pains and things like this,
like, like, you know, and that might not necessarily just be your pain.
Maybe you're feeling the pain of others and like you let it get to you by like
actually putting yourself.
And I relate to that a lot of like, you know, watching videos of the climate
crisis and seeing animals being like burnt alive, like that brought me pain
as an empath, but then I was able to like use that as fuel, you know what I
So, so when did you really start like taking action?
How did you start hearing more about refi and then ultimately start building this
Well, you know, I got into the behavioral sciences in 1988 and I went to
Scottsdale Community College.
I wanted to be a psychologist because I wanted to unscrew myself, my own
stinking thinking, or an accountant.
And my father's like, I would just become a businessman like me.
You know, so my father really did put a lot of pressures, old schools.
He put a lot of pressure on me to have me do what he wanted me to do.
That's OK. So I got a business degree, loved it, did business.
And then I started traveling and I got in 1995, I got the territory of South
of Africa to do our business and then the United Kingdom.
So I went to South Africa, then I went to Zimbabwe.
I had a claim from Ghana.
And so I've been to Africa like six times and I love it.
And I tell you what, two of the most people that I loved on the planet and,
you know, not to make this a religious thing, but they were the best Christians
I knew. And there's a lot of in America like that as well.
But they led by example, and they were amazing people and they lifted up
other people and they trained other people.
One one gentleman, just real quick, he actually, Richard Mcconey, would
train a secretary for three years and then release her into the business
community so that they could help another one.
Then he would train another one and do it again.
And he lived to be of old age and he was very rich.
And his his ancestors were chiefs and kings of Rhodesia before it came
became Zimbabwe. So I mean, I mean, I've been studying Africa for over 50 years
and I love it. You know, so I'm really excited.
I mean, you know, get coin giveth.
We got James, we got Jerry, I mean, choice.
We got so many people here that know it.
Not everyone has to get it. That's important.
Not everyone has to get it.
Not everyone has to be involved.
So what we're creating out of the hundred and four to four, we're going to have
lawyers, accountants, policy people who are going to have artists
and 3D people and security people and security people and security people.
And we're, you know, mental wellness and we're taking care of one another.
So when we don't fight the system and we be the change and the butterfly effect
and the pebble in the pond and we study people like Lisa Nichols
and we study people like Anthony, Anthony Robbins, Zig Ziglar.
And then we get into permaculture and study Matt Powers.
And he just followed me back.
And, you know, there's a lot of refi stuff going on right now,
live and for free, you know, and there's some that you can pay and stuff.
But there's a lot of free stuff.
There's free permaculture classes for women.
There's, you know, there's so much.
So we all have computers and we're looking on.
I actually look at my phone way too much, but that I want to change.
I want to grow up this year and delegate and not be detoxed
because I wanted to take a sabbatical after 20 years of donating my time,
energy, my money, because I was an activist.
It wasn't paid for 33 years, but I did full time since like the 1990s,
1990s. So anyway, it's been fun, been real.
And, you know, I've met so many amazing people and, you know,
I'm a workaholic come from a workaholic family, pretty big egos.
And I don't mean that as a judgment or a negativity statement.
And you may be the youngest of the two brothers.
I was able to look at them and say, wow, I don't want to do that.
You know, but I was a workaholic, but when I was single, usually,
you know, when I was married or with a woman, then I would work less maybe.
So anyway, any other questions, Jimmy?
I like how you had that experience with, you know, those those
they're spiritual, you said faith based.
I like also what you said before about the inter do you say
call it interfaith or like you're connecting the Parliament of Religions,
I believe I pay like $125, $125 a year to be a member.
I don't really follow what they're doing.
They haven't been there yet.
I'm just working with people and learning.
And I've been studying scientists for like 50 years and naturalists.
I mean, I just love nature and I'm an avid hiker, but now I'm older.
So my knees and back and all that I can't hike and sleep on the ground.
My back just doesn't take it yet.
Now, we are going to have a world famous spa that you know about.
If you're a cool person, you can come for free because you want to know why.
Because some rich and wealthy people will donate money because of what we're doing,
because it's an educational showcase that I've been planning since June of 1999.
I'm a connector and I know some people and I had a little bit of money.
And I put my time, energy and heart into this for since June of 1999
to create showcase properties where average people, rich people,
wealthy people could come, see nature, be in nature, relax in nature, have books,
get a massage, get a spa, get physical rehab, get great food and spices
and have experts say, hey, look, you've been eating shitty for 40 years.
You're not going to be better in 30 days.
Do not try and kill yourself and do that.
You have to listen to experts.
I'm a researcher, but I just love research.
And so when I when I buy when I buy a car or truck, whatever, I research it a lot.
And then once I know I want to buy it now and I make the decision very quickly.
That's one of my challenges.
Well, that could be a challenge, but it could also set you up for success
and help you in some ways.
I mean, a lot of people under reach. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm I'm more abnormal and I've been out of balance a lot.
And I've been up and down.
I've been depressed, I've been suicidal, been there, done.
I bought the T-shirt, 59 and a half.
And I'm happy now, even though I'm stuck and my ex-wife lived here
and I'm calling her to see if they want to answer the door.
And she's got two little kitty cats that love me.
Yeah, animals are intuitive.
You know, I'm a disabled veteran, United States Marine Corps,
84 to 88, so I didn't do battle.
And I'm thankful for that.
And I have a heart for battered women.
People have post-traumatic stress.
And it doesn't matter if it was war or beating or whatever, animals can help.
Someone said donkeys are better than horses.
I didn't know that and I haven't studied it yet.
But I know that equine horse therapy works.
You can Google or, you know, do an engine search, go on YouTube
and you'll see veterans that go to these places and work with experts
who know the horses because horses know you because they evolved
They need to smell you to see, is this a friend or a foe?
Should I run, fight or flight?
So they really can work miracles and dolphins have and dogs and cats
I mean, have you hugged a tree today, Jimmy?
Jimmy, do you hug a tree today?
Right now, I did not hug, but I did touch a tree.
You got to touch a tree or a date back.
One thousand one hundred and eleven days of hugging a tree.
No, dude, I touched tree.
Huggins, you know, you know, you got to ask consent for that.
And I don't speak tree yet.
But yet to get to the secret of the soil, the secret of the soil.
I brought that book over here.
I forgot who I loaned it to and I didn't get it back.
I cherry picked it a little bit.
If you want to get your mind blown, The Secret of Soil is a great book.
Back to you, there we go.
Hey, study permaculture is great.
Regenerative farming is great.
I mean, there's so many great things.
Find your passions, find your gifts and give them away.
And you'll receive more if you give it from the heart.
If you try and lie, cheat, manipulate, you're not going to like the result.
So the more you're real with yourself and forgive yourself and then forgive others,
man, it changes your whole life.
My man just dropped some knowledge bombs on you.
I hope you'll take a note, spam.
So animals, you're also very passionate about animals.
So we're going to talk into the, we're going to delve a bit deeper into the
network and delve a bit deeper into the IRL places and your full vision of that.
Um, but also this like puppy pallets, like you adopted a lot of dogs.
Like what is your, what is your vision of how you might want to be working
with animals in the future?
And I've got a huge heart and how you take care of them.
And they also have helped people.
Like, does that tie into your physical location?
Yes, this is what, this is what I feel we're doing and we're working with, you
know, John D Lu with eco restoration communities and common common grounds.
And anyway, or yeah, I think it's common grounds or something like that.
Um, lots of people, we, the best of web three, I mean, Jimmy and I know it's,
it's changing, it's evolving, get coins growing and changing and passports
are lower score because I actually commented that the score should be higher
because I doxxed myself and it still wasn't enough to have the $1 matching thing.
I'm like, come on, you got my Facebook, my Twitter, my Gmail, you got this and that.
I mean, what, you, you want my DNA and eye retina scan too?
Um, so anyway, they did lower it to 15.
So it wasn't critical and I wasn't negative towards them.
I'm just saying I was too high.
So as a business consultant, I'm like, no, you need to lower that
because how many people from Africa have a LinkedIn and a Facebook and a Google
mail and a get coin thing, a barber and this and that is, that was too much.
And they listened and they changed.
I, I'm a business consultant, continuous improvement.
So continuous improvement on yourself and, or your business or your craft.
If you're an artist, read like the artist's way or drawing on the
right side of the brain, study experts, study masters, go to museums, you
know, do whatever you want to do.
Show us your heart and we'll buy your art unless you fart.
Cause then we're not going to buy your art because it might smell.
And then we'll have pollution and we don't like pollution in this space.
So hold your parts, everybody.
Laughter cause we literally, we could, we could talk about 1,200 climate change facts
today and how many of us going to remember that a year from now, all 1,200
that we talked about, not very many.
But what do we remember if we had fun and if there was a crazy American
living in Perfsky land or seven Gordina?
Hey, we could talk forever, man.
Uh, but usually halfway through the space, we open it up for the audience.
And we got some, some amazing humans up here.
We got the Wiltie who had his hand up a while ago.
We got Riyadh, we got Jerry, we got choice, we got let's grow.
And Luminae Envision currently has her hand up.
And I know it's almost 2 AM here in Thailand where you also are.
By the way, I met up with Luminae Envision today.
It's so amazing meeting up with Regens.
And, uh, yeah, I can't wait until we hug it out.
Matthew, uh, we're going to be doing that in the metaverse soon, but, uh, but
hope you can make it to the Regen-a-sants or I'm gonna have to come to Serbia
and beat down your door to give you a bear hug because man, you're, you're
just like heart of gold, one of those people.
Enough, enough warm and fuzzies.
Luminae Envision, what's growing on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right at 2 AM and I'm very late, but it's always
pleasure to see Matthew and especially when he comes to Jimmy and all our
friends and also he brings his artist friends with him.
Yeah, I love the space and I, I love all what I heard.
Uh, it's such an inspiration to hear.
I just wanted to give my feedback and, um, yeah, give word to other people.
So I am learning, serving a little bit more, but I do teach English.
And I tried and it was hard for me anyway.
That was then this is now I'm going to learn it a little bit more now.
And yeah, and thanks for the kind words.
And really you guys are also amazing.
I've learned so much from you and I have so many sisters and brothers
from around the world that I love.
And I mean, I mean, we're all so connected now and yes, there's egos and
there's blocking, there's this and there's that, and I was a part of that.
That was then this is now it's 2024.
Um, we're in a bull market.
Good things are happening.
Artists are selling projects are growing up.
I mean, you know, and we have to work with Fiat.
I don't want the big economy to crash.
So let's, let's, let's work with our natural resources more.
And this is what John Liu and I and Jimmy and all of experts know.
When we find passionate local leaders, doesn't matter if it's picking up
plastic or planting mangroves or working with orphans or, you know, doing
permaculture doesn't matter if you're working in some of the thousands and
thousands of different solutions out there and you don't have what you need.
That's what our foundation is about.
We have, we're going to be doing microloans all the way to macroloans.
So I studied both, you know, economics, both high and low.
And so most of the time I don't tell you guys what I'm doing on the bigger end.
That's me just talking with people in the backend.
We're going to be transitioning $30 trillion is what project drawdown said
Foley and that team over the next 30 years.
Now we printed more money.
It's not about the numbers.
We know it's trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars and chat.
GTP 3.5 said that nature does about 1.25 to $1.45 trillion approximately,
but we don't really know what it does.
Cleaning our air, providing food, cleaning our water and stuff like that.
We know that we can't go to other people and say, Hey, you need to read this book.
You need to do what I do.
So we lead by example, we connect, we collaborate, we cooperate.
We're working with animals.
We're working with nature.
I mean, I'm a big fan of, you know, food, let thy food be thy medicine.
Has anyone heard of that?
Let thy food be thy medicine.
So can you imagine if tomorrow, this won't happen tomorrow.
What if everybody had clean air, clean water, didn't work over eight hours a day,
loved what they were doing, chose what they wanted to do.
We're walking, getting exercise, barefoot, getting some sun, not too much sun,
hydrating, felt loved and appreciated.
How much do you think we would be sick?
That would be a utopia, which is not going to happen tomorrow or ever.
I don't think on this planet.
We know now that ourselves and collectively we can shift and change
because we have the computers.
If we fight the system, we'll lose.
And there's that great group at, we don't have time.
Um, so now we're collaborating, coming together and, you know, like Ed, you
know, I've been saying, what do the farmers require you know, cause if you're 65,
70 years old, you're not wanting to get into a discord or metaverse to
learn or to share, so we're creating systems for people and I'm an expert in
communication, not, you know, I'm not perfect and not the expert, but I'm an
expert cause I've been studying it for a long time.
So when we listen to people, when we listen to people, when we listen to
people who are good hearted and provide them with what they require, we would
make money on the for profit side and we're going to work on the not for profit
side, I'm spending 50% of my time.
And so we're going to make so much money on regenerative finance because
solar at scale is profitable.
Um, even, um, vertical gardening done in the best ways at scale in areas that are
needed, you know, like Alaska or a really hot desert area, you know, so I'm
an expert in sustainable building and greenhouses and stuff.
So I'm, I'm not the one who I'm the researcher and promoter and
videographer, photographer, and self funder a little bit.
Um, so I'm not the master master who has the years of experience.
I've just been around people for, you know, 33 years, but mainly
the last, you know, 25 years, you know, so I've gone to these communities and you
know, the best one in the world, I believe is actually in Southern Arizona.
I've been there many times and taking photos and videos and been to Earth Day
events, sir, and I've been to a lot of different Earth Day events and hemp
festivals and, um, Clinton global initiatives and clean cities, um, you
know, farm aid, um, you know, so I've been, you know, I've been fortunate.
I had enough money and I had the passion and the drive to go study the
challenges and then the solution.
So I focus on the solutions I know about the challenges and I get depressed.
I got depressed many times because I knew too much now I'm not because I'm excited
about the youth, I'm excited about the artists with heart and the
humanitarian and the family offices and stuff.
So I really believe with the 40 year plan, we can do it.
And that's what our foundation is doing.
We have some of the top experts on the planet, on our foundation.
And there's a lot of you in this room that may be as well, because
I didn't want to stack the deck.
I can fill 144 board of directors very easily myself, but that wasn't my goal.
So I might have like 12 to 40 of you that can't not know some of you.
Um, but we want to have a mixture of artists.
You know, big D is going to be like the spokesperson at age 10.
You know, he's going to be on the board of directors as long as
the lawyers and accounts.
We're doing, we're working with lawyers, accountants, IP rights.
We're working with governments and corporations.
We'll actually go to a corporation and say, Hey, you got a smokestack Cole.
And it's, it's, um, you don't have a scrubber on it.
They said, we don't want to do a scrubber.
What if we put it on there for free?
They'll be like, Oh yeah, it's $2 million or whatever it is.
Um, yeah, we'll put it on for free.
Because we made so much money in the best ways.
We're hemp and bamboo and you know, cause you can market a great product at a premium
price, if you give good customer service and you know what you're doing
and you listened to experts.
So anyway, Jimmy, we I've been talking way too much.
Some questions and stuff like that.
Cristians friends, if you're up here as a speaker, uh, raise your hand.
And if you're down there as a listener, she might stay on the
scene, get on up here as a speaker.
So I want to hear your ultimate of busy on because, uh, 144 it's in a tremendous
start, particularly if they're all helping one another, particularly if they're all,
you know, making an impact in some way and like the synergy, right?
Cause some people are specialists in different areas.
Like I see how that can be a really valuable and an impactful network.
Um, well, that's what I learned.
And again, this is what I learned is that, you know, if, if we have, uh, uh, an
accounting firm or a law firm of all the best, smartest students, both in
accounting and law, do you think that makes the best profitable business?
No, you need sales and marketing and smooshers and people that can
close contracts and deals.
So you have the, the beam pushers and the counters and stuff and
the people that know the law, but you need the people who can speak and who
can persuade and who can get sales and close deals where you got a business.
And I learned that decades ago.
So again, everything that I'm telling you and let's check my personal
stories and jokes and travels and art, whatever is things that I've learned.
And I'm not right about everything.
So if I say something that you don't believe is to be true, we can
talk about it in an adult way.
So the point I was going to get there is, okay, hundred word for phenomenal.
And then, but he said, we need, we need 1% to take action.
And that's 80 million people.
That's 80 million people.
So how do we get there is my question.
How do we grow the movement to a, take an action?
We have Russell, Russell, who was a forensic scientist in LA.
I believe he's retired from it.
He was on a pension fund that dealt with 25 years board of directors for $25 billion.
I know another amazing woman, uh, we connected right away.
She's, uh, in America working and she's working at a high level
at 25 billion under management as well.
So when we, when we already know it and I, and project drawdown did
have a zoom maybe three or four months ago and I was on it.
And there was another guy, board of directors that was talking, he said,
look, Virginia finance done.
Is extremely profitable, very profitable.
You know, so we'd have to, when you do it at scale with experts leading the way.
And when you, when you take away the pollution and the sickness and the
lost days from doing the extraction mesh methods, it's just night and day.
Now we have to be realistic.
We're not going to change overnight.
We're not going to get oil next year.
So 70% of us are in the bell curve, 70% of us are in the middle.
There are conservative Democrats.
Um, and there are liberal Republicans and I learned that, you know,
and there's independence.
So if Jimmy, if I want to laugh all the way to the bank, I just get
you, uh, far right Republican fighting Ria out of far left Democrat and I laugh
all the way to the bank and you guys are fighting each other and that's
what they've been doing now.
We're not going to be fooled anymore.
We're listening to people like you, Jimmy.
I mean, Jimmy, you've done 402.
I mean, that's legendary right there.
And you, you know, your heart, you grew up, your mother had the heart
for it, you've got the heart for it.
We just have the heart for it.
And there's millions of us that have the heart for it.
So imagine a network that works to help connect the 89 people who are leading
by example, imagine what we can do in three to 12 years with an exponential growth.
Um, you've got, look at that.
I think that's the key, right?
Is we need to exponentialize if that's a word, our, our movement, right?
Like one needs to, one needs to lead to two, two needs to lead to four or needs
to lead to eight and we got to like spread it.
We got, it's got to spread and, uh, and like a domino effect.
The Fibonacci sequence, the golden gage, gage, indeed.
Like that's a beautiful thing that the rotary clubs actually do.
So there, so this is an organization that's more than a hundred years old
and they're the biggest they've ever been is more than, I think it's 1.4 million
members and they have this thing of each one bring one where like they, they,
like, or they invite or two, other one, I don't know if you guys want or two,
The point is that each person is empowered every year to invite a person.
It is like kind of invite only like you need like a person from the
organization to like vouch.
And so it is like high quality people.
And there's definitely something that can be learned.
Like you're saying like learn, you can learn from people.
You can also learn from organizations, right?
I'm like, Roger Marks, you know, what's that?
Does everyone know that same?
I don't, what is the same?
It's a, right now I can't think of it, but it's something to do.
Like not being worthy of being in that organization.
You know, I've had high respect of the, of the rotary, but I've never,
never really met anyone that was really into it a lot.
And I was never invited in, but that's okay.
I know that they do great things and you know, grandparents, grandparents,
because they usually were not as often now.
I mean, it's more now, but usually since you're not raising, you're not with
the kids 24 seven, you can love your grandchildren more because you want to
see them for a week or two or whatever.
Uh, but you know, who knows what it is.
And the grandparents are baby boomers.
They have more influence.
They have more connections and they're doing it for their kids and their
grandkids and seven generations.
So what we do in the next three years points us in the right direction.
And then, and then five, seven, 10, 12 years, amazing things will happen.
Or we're going to crash and burn out escape from New York meets water
world meets mad max beyond thunder dome.
Speaking of art with heart and art, we got an artist with heart up here.
We had what's growing on.
I saw your hand up earlier.
It's lowered now, but it's still in your name.
So I assume your hand is still promo raised.
I'm just enjoying the conversation and I love when Matthew said we need to learn.
So when I'm listening to Matthew, I'm learning a new thing.
So I just want to give them shout out for this.
And for sure, what, what, what?
I started getting silly anyway.
Uh, I would love, I mean, if we can know more about the foundation and the
things that you are building, just like as a details so that maybe we can at
least, uh, most of us, we have connection and we have work here and we have
So if we know the roadmaps and if we understand the whole system, maybe we
can support it or maybe we can understand order.
So the goals that you are talking about, it's amazing.
And I'm really interested in it, but how to do it.
Uh, so for me, once I'm listening to you, I'm saying this is amazing.
So if we can, are you ready?
We are laying on us, buddy.
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck for woodchuck could chuck wood.
I don't know is on second.
Anyway, yeah, I'm, I'm discombobulated.
It's just been a crazy day and everything.
We, I thought it was going to write the white paper, the light paper
roadmap, literally three years ago.
It wasn't the right timing.
I went through ups and downs and all around hell and heaven many times over.
That was then this is now.
And that's a book that was then this is now.
Now what we have learned and done just the last two years, the people that I
know, holy shit, how many of us have been in so many spaces together?
I mean, Jimmy, why have we been in like a hundred, 200 spaces, 300 spaces?
I hang out with you more than like some friends, some like my best friends.
And it's going to be an exponential shift.
So we're not going to, you know, take, you know, a hundred trillion
dollars and put it all into refi next year.
So we're going to work with the experts and that's what I've been
promoting because I learned it.
When we have local passionate experts leading the way and international experts,
you know, and then that's what our board is going to be.
Our board's going to be artists and heartisans and mental wellness
people, security people, app builders, website people.
It's going to be a cross section on every continent.
And we're also going to be working with foundations, LLCs, S
corporation, C Corp, whatever makes sense.
We're going to work with, you know, team 54 project international, which
I was a co-founding member of, um, in, you know, I don't know, anyway,
a long time ago, many years ago, we're going to fund country coordinators.
The goal is, you know, that they have more money than they need.
So like minimum or like $1,200 a month, but less if they need it,
cause then we can give that other money to somebody else.
So if you live in Zambia and you only need $600 a month, and then we have a
car, we have expenses, we have secretaries, we have everything that you need.
You work for the government.
You work for the not for profits.
You work the orphanages, you work with the, the refugee camps
and you work with coordination.
So it's big and it's complex.
So I can't write it off because I'm not going to write it off because
I'm just so big and so massive.
I've been working on it for 24 years and then six years with blockchain artists
since 2006 and then around the film industry a lot since 2006.
So it's all coming together.
Russell's doing the steer, the steering committee, because
I've never done a steering committee.
And so that's where steering committee is someone who puts together a big
ambitious foundation like this.
So it could be a board of directors of three or 12.
And so I've never done that.
I do hiring selection, team building cells, training, behavioral
cells, certification and all that stuff.
But I never got on steering committee, but I was in, you know, I was on board
of directors, I've been president director of international marketing, vice
president sales, you name it over the last many decades, but, uh, I'm not
an expert in steering committee.
So he's, we're going to put this all together with lawyers, accountants,
you know, and all these different genres and artists and videographers.
And, you know, you imagine 144, and then we're going to have 144 founding members.
And then we're going to be more dial-like.
So we are going to become more decentralized, like some of the best project.
You start out centralized.
We're starting out centralized with more heart centered people and amazing
scientists and permaculturists and horticulturists and healers and you name it.
So we've got a hand up there.
What's up, brother from another mother.
I'm glad you're doing well.
Uh, it's good to hear from you.
I know that thinking about far in the future, you know, talking about seven
generations, uh, today we have access to unprecedented technology and
ability to reshape the future.
Uh, seven generations, you're looking at, you know, close to a hundred years.
I know in a hundred years, $1 put into a compounding account
So today, if you're thinking about putting some money back in clean water
or trees or doing something like that, you can create deposits using
these automated financial tools that will drive millions of dollars into
these different, uh, financial services in the future.
And this is something that hasn't been able to be done in the past.
This technology is just coming available to the public.
And I'm glad to be here on the precipice of, of it and seeing
people use it to do so much good.
You're a brother from another mother and there's so many
sisters and brothers in here.
And I really appreciate you.
Thanks for being a listener.
Thanks for being a speaker and retweeting and stuff like that.
As always, I can only echo carbon counting club, brilliant sentiments
because the guy's always on point, always on point that man.
But, um, I do want to go back to what Riad was kind of saying, like,
and I ask you kind of pointedly, Matthew, how do we become involved in
what you're doing other than what we are already doing in refi and how
we're already participating in this ecosystem and what we're creating?
Like, how do we become in what you are doing?
How can we be part of it?
If you would like to be considered to be a founding member, you
can actually help guide this.
So we're going to have a steering committee of six people or less.
You know, I mean, I love, I love so many of you.
So if you're interested, see, I don't want to beg people to do this.
So I'm not going to pay people to do it right now, but every founding
member, just so you know, the plan is cause we, you know, carbon
counting and I, and we know that if you invest in nature, right.
You have a great return because it's abundant by nature.
Nature is abundant naturally.
I mean, how many apple trees can you get from one apple?
I mean, one apple, one apple seed, how many apples is that going to produce?
So anyway, yeah, what we're doing is, you know, we're working with microloans
and in Africa and all over the world and you know, permaculture schools
and regenerative farming schools are big.
Prison reform is actually big too.
We can get them to do woodshops and crafts and then actually reform
them versus punishing them.
And somebody was mentioning that on space early this morning, which is great.
Um, so we, we have the solution.
So we're going to know in the next 40 days, we're going to know the next 40 days.
So if you have formed a company or you'd like to be one of the
founders and be a part of helping to build this over the next 40 days, I
believe in 40 days, everything can be legal.
It's going to be websites done, everything done.
Um, and you know, I want it to be ready long time ago.
My ego and my money, my monetary dry wanted to be done, but it, you know, you
can't force it in Russia and I learned that in 2000 every time I tried to force
people to learn something or force my life or in Russia, it never worked.
And I'm old now I've failed thousands and thousands of times in my life,
but that was then this is now you guys help me find my voice.
So I actually can do the lessons more myself, but I do talk too much.
All right, Jerry, is your hands still raised or the re-raised?
I'm going to say no, I re-raised it.
We got to say all the re-raised over here.
Um, yeah, because he got to it at the very end, Matthew, it was like, you're
going to have a telegram group for us.
You're going to have a way for us to start contacting, interacting, being
proactive and doing something.
And you are going to have a group of six people that are going to be those kind
of, Russell's in charge and see, we're going to have many Dows.
So some of you will be the CEO of a certain project and we're going to
have many Dows inside that 144, 72 over 40, 72 under, under different
scale sets, you know, but the same passion, the same why.
So I just know that we're going to create order out of chaos because I know who
I know and I know who's been invited.
So we've got the telegram live right now.
There's over 200 people in there.
Um, you know, what I wanted to happen didn't happen, but I, okay.
I'm sorry, Matthew, I hate to interrupt you, buddy.
I know this is your space, but where can I find your, where can I find your
discord and where can I find your telegram, bro?
Like I would love to be involved in those things.
Like I follow you on LinkedIn, you can, you can, I checked every
single DM that I've ever gotten.
I might've missed a few and that's probably 40,000 DMS, maybe in the
Uh, so anyway, yeah, it was a lot.
It was too many because one time I actually went back, I was off of X.
I actually went back in and found hundreds of, of messages I didn't.
And I responded every single one of them.
So what about beast mode?
That's what I'm talking about.
Putting in that time to make it happen.
He needs a few more DMS telegram group and discord.
My link tree, go to my, go to my X account, click on the link tree and
you'll see there's a discord link.
Now I think every 14 days you have to redo it.
So if it's not active, I'll check it probably tomorrow and put a new link in
there and I'm not a discord expert.
So we require people who want to do something.
If you want to help build this network, you know, from your heart, come join
us now as a founder and you will be rewarded in so many ways.
And nature retreats and regenerative farms and permaculture schools and helping
orphans and whatever you want to do, that's a refugee camps, you know, refugee
camps are, have to go more sustainable and we can do it exponentially.
You don't know how to use them.
I think he's about to get towed.
Yeah, I know it's, it's, it's my, uh, my, one of my sisters here.
Oh, you don't know who he was reversed.
No, this is from another mister.
Oh, is this the actual sister of Matthew?
I'm a professional for like a half hour.
I'm not supposed to, I'm working.
You're supposed to love me.
I mean, I'm blonde and I will go out of the car so I can on park.
Yeah, she can get it out.
I'll buy an NFT from for $111.
I'm going to get out of here.
Okay, do you think get out while you're getting out of your car?
We had go ahead and then we'll see real quick because it's like 2 22 in the
So let's we got to, we got to move through these questions and we'll wrap it
So I don't know who's we're talking on what's happening, but it's fine.
I just want to thanks Jerry to explain the questions that I have them.
And I just followed him back and of course, because we need to connect.
I need to know if he's single or married.
So are you single brother?
Always the question you ask in space.
You're talking to Matthew.
You want to know if man is Jerry.
He's trying to get in your circle.
Yeah, he told, she told Jerry to grow away when we kept saying grow a million
That is going to be one of my top 10 moments in my marriage thus far.
My wife's like, oh, I apologize.
We made your wife say grow away.
I've got a hop off co-host role.
I'm going to head out and get some stuff done today.
Matthew, do you have any final words of wisdom?
Are you able to speak right now?
Are you literally getting towed?
Matthew is currently getting towed.
We're trying to find the keys now.
So yeah, this has just been a discombobulated.
So words of wisdom one, I really love and appreciate so many of you in this room
and have so much love and respect for you and we're all pieces of the puzzle.
I played with a lot of people's egos.
I'm going to be different this year and I am going to go less.
I'm going to spend less time.
I'm going to do more time management.
I'm going to do what I wanted to do.
If you want to help form this and be a founding member or be considered to be
considered a founding member or founding father, founding sister, you know,
founding partner, board of directors, just DM me and then or say, Delaware
Telegram group joined the discord.
You help us build it because it's not about me.
I'm just another, another Indian who's learning and you know, I've studied
a lot of things for over 50 years.
It wasn't, but now we're coming together and we're going to co-create this more
collaborative and friend and with artists and drum sessions and healing
A lot of my friends are foodies and chef chefs and sustainable building.
Native Americans, we're going to have sweat lodges.
We're going to do all these different things and I'm a traveler.
So I'm a nomad and that's why I named nomad nomad.
So anyway, yeah, I love you all.
I appreciate you can, you know, follow one another, support one another
from the heart, you know, leave a comment, you know, a good morning stuff.
You know, you don't have to do fake ones and insincere ones just from the
heart and that changes everything.
And thanks everyone for being here.
And Jimmy, I love you brother and can't wait to see a lot of you.
And we're doing stuff here in Serbia.
And I'll tell you more about that later.
And yes, do follow everybody.
Left, right, up, down, all the round.
Everyone in here is an amazing human being.
I can vouch for pretty much everybody in here.
I follow every single person who comes through because yeah, maximum
impact is what we're all about here.
And if you clicked on that title, that says something about you.
And yeah, much love, Matthew.
We got to continue these discussions.
I'm going to turn you into your spaces and let's do this.
I want to be a founding squirrel.
Hey, any, any song suggestions before we conclude?
I have one rolled up, but just in case you got one, Matthew.
Yeah, I support one in carbon.
Just so you know, carbon counting club has very low expensive NFTs.
Our foundation is going to buy a lot.
Our foundation is going to buy a shitload of art.
I wanted to find out who's who in the zoo and who would listen.
And most people didn't listen.
Most people who needed money did not listen.
I was trying to give away money and it didn't work.
I'm like, what, what, what, you know, so anyway, I only, you
know, in this is what I learned from doc real quick, less is more
less than one minute and 11 seconds.
I believe from Eastern Europe taught people how to learn languages.
He used relaxation, seating, lighting, classical music, got the brain
waves to that wave level as a child.
So you learn quicker and they learned up to 2000 words in one day.
And they had great retention, brought him back six months later.
And they had like 60% retention after like a two hour refresher.
They were back at like 95% retention.
And if you don't think you're amazing, you are.
We love you back bread up much love.
And yeah, I just pinned Mr.
McGee's artwork to the top.
It actually funds the main groceries that yours truly are planting.
All right, Jerry, I'll give you the last word before we play out a tune.
He completely sidestepped my question of song suggestion, but that's fine.
We got one in the bank unless you got one, Jerry.
No, that's particularly Matthew's expertise sidestepping questions, I think.
Oh, sorry, but he always drops the knowledge.
I'm going to tell you something good.
Knowledge bomb gets dropped.
But yeah, yeah, he's right.
I asked you if you have a song suggestion.
But just in case you haven't got no, not doing that.
We are 20th of January almost.
It's the final countdown by Europe.
Oh, dude, that's not bad.
But I did raise my hand for a reason.
Before you play it out, before you play it out.
All right. Raise my hand for a reason.
This is on behalf of the Let's Grow Dow.
This is a group of people.
This is an organization that is really all about growing.
How do we try and regen movement?
It is exactly every single thing that Matthew has discussed.
All this world projects is doing and lots of us.
We are under yourself for what you're doing.
We are coming together now and we got to listen.
When we have more roundtables and we listen to all stakeholders,
And that's what I learned by studying the case
that got Native Americans, businesses, not-for-profits,
ranchers together to reconstruct a river and snake it
because they straightened it to move military equipment in World War Two.
And it was eroding the land.
So rivers naturally snake.
So they brought in the big equipment.
They brought in tree stumps.
And the fish came back and the biodiversity came back.
And it was a win-win-win.
We can do win-win-wins and create an awesome economy
and less pollution and less slavery within the next 40 years
dramatically exponentially.
And I believe we're going to do it or we're going to crash and burn.
And we're not in control of that.
I don't fear crash and burning because when we have 80 million people
coming together who are more heart centered, but aren't perfect like me
and all of us and we live our gifts and we communicate and we listen,
collaborate, we're going to transition trillions of dollars.
The people in this room are going to transition
trillions of dollars over the next 10 years actively if you want to vote
on in a Dow with what we're doing, refi Dow and pioneers and farm aid
and hemp and all the farmers and stuff.
Yeah, Ed, I mean, you know, we've got so many legends leading away now.
Yeah, you were kind of over there.
Did you want to conclude that statement?
No, I don't think we're going to go ahead.
We love Matthew's game, but go ahead.
Matthew talks to you, Mike.
Oh, I got excited about something.
You know, that's his thing.
Like he may avoid the question.
He may talk too much, but he's 100 percent right.
So you cannot fault that.
So I love the heart and I love the motive behind it.
And that's kind of the point because that's what let's grow Dow is.
And it's about the mission of what we're all trying to achieve.
And no, don't use the key word, Jared.
We are doing it. We are doing it.
All right. I got to play us out, guys.
Well, we're here. Come on now.
We're always trying to get there.
We'll get there, but we're always trying to do so.
That's the thing. It's the journey.
Well, we are. Yeah, you can't.
You can't say not to say try to.
And on that's kind of the stick.
And we got to try first and then we do.
It's about four million DeFi.
Let's educate the DeFi people what refi is.
And that's what my. Yeah, that's a good start.
We will soon be listing our manifesto
for everyone to join. Let's go.
Manifesto, by the way, when you sign our manifesto,
you actually get an update.
Courtesy of Centropic region in the audience.
Make sure you follow that human.
All right. I'm playing us out, guys.
I love you all. I love you all.
It is. It is actually the final countdown right now.
We're going to create a free energy rocket system, refi and go go to Venus.
That's we're not going to go to Mars or the moon.
We're going to Venus with a free energy rocket made out of the hemp biohemp.
Let's go to Venus with biohemp.
Humminbird, crypto whales.
It's monthly Earth Day in three days, guys.
Three days till monthly Earth Day.
Do some. Do some for that.
Fighters gang, much love, Kingfisher, much love, Lidowscope, much love,
that much love, Marangel, Marangel, much love,
Sunny, much love, Efirium, Bolivia, much love to you.
Tropic region, much love to you.
Public goods, Africa, much love to you, good sir.
The Grownation vocabulary, the Grown vocabulary is very strong with you.
The Wolf of Art Street, much love to you.
And Greenville, Kenya, much love to you, good sir.
Crypto classic, much love.
Don't clap along for this, guys.
Tap the little heart with the plus, bottom right.
This is the bottom character.
The bottom, the bottom, the bottom, the bottom, the bottom, the bottom.
Are you making a heart attack?
Oh, we're headed for Venus, Venus,
Where the Venus reference came from?
They've seen us and welcomed us all.
All right, now she's going to try and get it unstuck.
I don't know if it's possible or not, but I know it's stuck.
It's the final countdown.
Oh, my God, you got to miss it.
I can't hear a thing you guys are saying.
I put some bricks underneath the front car tires once.
She's trying to look for some stuff to put underneath there.
Women, they always think they're right.
I'm a professional driver.
So seriously, that is the main point of what we're doing.
We're creating a pretend.
You could do it as a comic strip.
Let's come up with art, and I will buy it from the foundation.
We're going to have contests, puzzles, give away.
We're going to reward people for planting trees
and picking up plastic who are needy but good hearted.
Well, we'll give them love.
But if you're a good hearted person,
we're going to give you the tools that you require.
And we're working with experts and counselors and coaches
and lawyers and experts and accountants
and legislated people and mental counselors
and post-manage syndrome and healers and herbalists
and permaculturists and regenerative farmers,
There's so many millions of people
and all these different things coming together.
And over the next 18 months to three years,
we're going to transition trillions ourselves
just to group that right here.
I only heard the end of that, unfortunately,
but it sounds like you can spit fire.
Good dollar and all that stuff coming together
and refi DAO and solar punks and everything.
There's so many amazing groups.
We need a lot of projects.
We need a lot of networking.
Collaborating, cooperating, listening, sharing, caring,
and friendly competition.
Let's do our best not to hate and judge.
Those that are doing shit.
So that was a really, it's cool that you picked that song
because I actually played that song on the intercom
on every single classroom of my high school
in the final minutes in which I was in high school.
And I was like, okay, okay, okay, okay.
And I also played it at the last few minutes
of the last gay coin round on the gay coin space.
They were like, Jimmy, is that you?
And I was like, what the fuck?
Well, we're playing at the festival.
Talking about the festival.
Real quick plug of Regina Sans.
That's at L-E-T-S-G-R-O-W-D-A-O.
I had to kick him out while I'm playing music.
But yeah, okay, Regina Sans festival
is gonna be the biggest regen festival in the world.
Why am I so confident of that?
Well, in 2020, I did a digital festival.
We couldn't throw a physical one anymore.
I did a physical one in 2019.
But in 2020, we did a digital one
and it reached the total views across all the platforms,
different channel partners,
and the stuff we put up was 3.5 million views, baby.
So it's gonna be a hybrid event.
IRL in the famous and well-renowned Kopangan.
Tons of transformative spiritual
and all the good stuff in terms of becoming your better self.
There's phenomenal workshops happening
every single day here on the island
and it's gonna be amazing.
It's also right after DevCon,
which is in Bangkok this year.
It's a massive Web3 conference.
So it's literally immediately after,
just go from Bangkok to Kopangan.
Three days of mostly conferences and transformative stuff.
And then two days of straight up
getting down with the regions.
It's gonna be an epic music festival
in addition to the workshops that are constantly going on.
So that's what's going on there.
Until next time, friends.
Keep doing what you love,
keep spreading love, and making impact.
Adios, lock of notes, ciao.
Or even there, see you later.
See you at an even more like event around the world.