MAX IMPACT EP. 410 SubDAO Impact w @raybankless

Recorded: Jan. 30, 2024 Duration: 1:13:10

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Okay, so when I ask you what is your why, Ray, I'm talking about your personal why, your inner drivers, your motivators. Deep down inside, what drives you to do the things that you do? Why do you do all the amazing things that you do, Ray?
Hello first and thank you for having me on the show. It's an honor, thank you very much. And thanks everyone for joining us today.
Starting with my why would be actually it feels a lot that's so personal for people, like it doesn't feel a high value for lots of people, but why I started this journey is basically to earn my breath.
That's the basic idea I had and this is best that I started in Bankless with this because Bankless' mission is not just only to onboard people, it's also to teach them how to live in this space and how to earn in this space to still live in the place and do what you do.
So basically why I do everything, it all comes back to me trying to earn my family a living, but there are lots of ways to do this. You know, you can, I don't know, you can still, you can manipulate market with great money you have.
You can do this in a good way or in a bad way. I'm now wishing that I'm doing that in a good way and this good way give me another why in the process and that's to help people who are trying to make this world a better place.
I met them on my journey and I was fascinated with the things they do. You know, Bankless started as a DeFi teaching organization, but then with people joining and with people doing great things, amazing things, we met each other, we learned from each other and then we grow and we become this organization with a lot of why.
Everyone has their why and everyone has their ways to do it and that brings me here doing helping communities to onboard to Webtree and find their way in Webtree, earn their funds in Webtree, use the Webtree tools and et cetera.
Beautiful, man. Yeah, thank you for showing. Okay, so yeah, everyone's got, everyone's got to make money. People got to provide for their families and but but yeah, as you said, like there's there are different ways to do that.
There's there's there's debatably bad ways, right, that are like doing harm along the process and some of those ways might be quicker to make the money, right?
But then there's there's many good ways and those good ways are becoming more and more abundant.
They're becoming, you know, through these amazing Webtree tools, we're seeing more and more good ways to make money where you can really do a lot of good along the way.
But where did this first come into your mind of like, hey, you know, I have to do this thing, but why don't I try to do it in a good way?
Was it was it bankless that inspired you or something even before that, that kind of like set you down that path of trying to do it in a for sure.
For sure, it was bankless, the people in Banquets. When I see them, I didn't know anything like before 2020, I just knew there was Bitcoin and was going in crazy numbers, you know, the number go up things.
I just know that. And in 2020, I figured out that the way we work in traditional works, in traditional jobs is not for me.
And I started looking for things to do, like how can I earn myself and my family some bread with the with the way that I can endure working.
So in this crypto-titler environment, I saw people posting about DAOs, like working a DAO.
It doesn't matter. Just go in, learn something and get the experience.
So I asked where, like, who is the DAO and like, how do you work in one?
And I saw a list of DAOs and only DAO that I was able to understand and get into was bankless DAO.
It was still is super inclusive, like come in, like, you know, just get a guest pass and start doing something and learn.
So that's what I did. I get a guest pass and I checked the Discord.
I didn't understand what they were like DAO. Where's the team? What education?
What am I going to educate with? You know, like, what do I have?
But then I saw translator yield and I joined because I can translate to Turkish from English.
Not like a professional, but there wasn't anyone doing it.
So I offered my abilities that I can translate and they said, OK, just like do it and let's see what's going on.
And then we started this bankless Turkish.
And that that was the that was the start of my journey.
And with Bankless Turkish at the top DAO of Bankless DAO, we met other people.
We met people in Bankless DAO that are already doing public good.
And I see I saw that crypto is not just something that you buy and sell in a tank, which I never was able to do that.
You know, but that's not it.
You know, like there are people building something amazing here.
It's not just the five protocol where it's not just some like optimism just started as a protocol that transfer the value.
But now they are funding public good with the money they earn.
The profits they make, you know, and I saw these things and I figured out that there are a lot of people doing amazing things, but they don't know how to join here.
They are still in the traditional workspace that they know how to manage.
But here in the tree, they don't they don't know.
They just think, and what I thought in the beginning, buy some coins, try to sell it in 2x, 5x, whatever, and then make some money out of it.
But that's not it.
If you build on crypto, you have more gains than everything else.
It's like this open space that you can find people from Africa if you are even in Turkey that you don't need to go to Africa.
There are people that are trying to do whatever we do, the same thing.
And we can collaborate just from a Discord channel, you know.
And that's what drives me now.
That's beautiful.
And that is so true, just how international Web3 is.
I mean, just just looking at this Twitter space that we're starting up right now, we got people in Kenya.
We got people in America.
We got people in Latin.
We got people in Africa.
I'm in Asia.
It's so international.
And the fact that you're also empowered to start these sub-dows, right?
I mean, there's, you know, Bankless Turkey and then Green Pope.
So can you speak a little bit of like, OK, what is a sub-dow and how sub-dows can help the main dow to really make the most impact possible?
So a sub-dow is basically a branch of a dow.
It can be on anything, especially in Bankless Dow, because Bankless Dow has no bounds on what you can do.
Just make it into the mission and then you will be able to create your own sub-dow.
Bankless Wallet is a project right now.
They are producing a wallet for Bankless Dow, actually for Dow people.
And at some point, they will become a sub-dow, which run their business in a dow way.
And they will be a sub-dow of Bankless Dow.
Bankless Turkish is a sub-dow of Bankless Dow who tries to generate reach for Bankless Dow with education and content creation.
Less content creation now because we got smaller with the bear market.
But I hope after the bear market, like, we will grow bigger.
Actually, it's wrong.
People cannot understand.
I would be joining a dow in the bear market, make my place in the bear market.
And then I would be a person who is needed in the bull.
But anyway, this is a permissionless place that you can start your own dow by leveraging a branch.
It can be Bankless, can be Green Pill, can be ReFi Dow.
So you can leverage the branch and the branch leverages you.
So it's going both ways in this environment because it doesn't have to be a Turkish thing.
I can be in Turkey.
I can be a Bankless Dow, sub-dow doing something different.
It doesn't matter.
I can be another project, but I will be still a part of Bankless Dow who started themselves.
No one from Bankless Dow tried to find someone in Turkey and then make this group come together.
No, it just comes together by themselves.
Everyone tries to do their thing and they find a place that no one tells them to do this and this.
You are encouraged to find your way here by yourself.
That's the thing of dowel writing.
That's a good thing of dowel, but it's a challenge at the same time because not everyone is so much taking initiative.
It's not easy to take initiative and some cultures are not so used to taking initiative.
I would say Turkish culture is not so used to taking initiative.
We are more like looking for someone to tell us what to do.
Everyone who came to Bankless Dow was looking for them.
Okay, so I'm here.
What am I going to do?
I explain to them like, I don't know.
Do your thing.
What are you experiencing?
Are you a marketing person?
Are you a tokenist person?
What are you experiencing?
Just show us that and tell me what you want to do.
It doesn't matter.
It should be about Bankless Dow.
It can be your own project and it can be just like your stepping stone.
It doesn't matter.
But yeah, it's a challenge, but it's still, I think, what will make dowels big in time.
If you can explain that, take initiative, do your thing and don't worry about people telling you what to do.
Okay, so it sounds like these sub-dows really have independence to operate how they want to operate.
It's not like they're controlled by a franchise or something like that.
It's like, do your own thing, but maybe there are guidelines.
What is the interaction between Big Dow and Baby Dow?
There are some to do, like keep in mind.
Not like stupid rules.
Of course, they do not spoil the name, do not spoil the brand, do not scam people, like these things.
But other than that, check our mission.
Look at our mission.
What does it say?
One billion people to Web3.
I'll give my example.
I tried to onboard people on Web3, like in an individual basis, from Twitter, from videos, content writing, translation.
But not anyone in our team is a marketer.
So we weren't able to generate this Twitter presence and this YouTube presence very well.
But in time, we met with people from Turkey who are dows and organizations who want to be dowed,
or just people who are wondering, just like communities who are wondering what we can do in this crypto environment.
And then we realized, okay, if we cannot grow our Twitter presence one by one, or like we see, let's go to the community.
Let's go to the people who already have this group of people coming together and looking their way in or looking for some guidance in the space.
So, like, for example, Earth is DOW, the first DOW that I met in Turkey.
And they, first of all, they thought of a lot of things like the region environment and the region ecosystem.
And now we are working together and Bankus DOW, Bankus Turkish, is kind of showing the tools or showing the funding mechanisms which weren't available before to them.
Like, I don't know, we are looking for something to do with now DOW right now and we are writing proposals and stuff.
And before no one from Earth is DOW told about that, you know, oh, there was now DOW, we should write a proposal.
But then we were able to connect what they do with that Web3 community and said, okay, so you do this, right?
We can just ask now if they would like to help us if we do some knowledge stuff for them in this project.
So that kind of stuff now, we are more leaning into more than individuals to communities.
So that's the thing, like, this is how you find your way in this environment because everything is so new.
And not everyone is a professional. Not everyone has a professional for what you are looking to do.
We didn't have a marketer. We didn't have any Web3 social builder.
So what we did is we see that we are good at connecting. So we went that way.
So that's the thing, like, find your way. It's the same thing, right?
It's the same thing, like individually get into the DOW, find your way.
Okay. Now you have a team. You are doing your thing. You did something wrong. No problem.
Just find what you are good at and move with that.
Great advice. Advice all around. Find where you're good at and move with that.
Find your way. These are great ways to navigate this wild world of Web3.
By the way, a quick shout out to the people who were typing let's grow in the comments section always makes me very happy to do that.
Shout out to when people do that. Shout out to Will P. who did hashtag let's grow.
Shout out to Carol Trejan. Shout out to let's grow DOW of course.
Shout out to Jerry. Shout out to Trejan. Shout out to King Fisher's Media.
Everyone, please head to the comments section and type let's grow. It would make me very happy.
And also, you're getting a triple shout out here. I'm retweeting from Jimmy.
Everyone who types let's grow. I'm pinning it up to the Jumbotron.
Reading it out. And by the way, both Ray and I are live on video right now on four different platforms.
And you're up in the Twitter spaces in there too. And I'm scrolling through so people can see there.
So type let's grow. While you're there, retweet the space and let's let everyone know.
We've got onboard a billion people. You heard the man.
Bankless DOW. Bankless is trying to onboard the next billion people into Web3.
And that is a huge task. A huge task that even a DOW would struggle to have.
I think unless there are these empowered sub-DOWs that are all really taking action.
It's kind of like the globalization concept in a sense.
You're trying to have this global impact all around the world. You're using that for positive impact.
But there's so many different nuances and contexts in different areas.
So for these sub-DOWs to pop up, it would definitely help them achieve that mission.
So I see the benefit for Bankless DOW.
Maybe you could delve a little bit deeper into the benefit for what you're building.
Because you're also with Earthys. You're a region.
So has Bankless Turkey or Turkish helped with this region startup of Earthys?
Has there been a connection there? Or is it like maybe just through your network and things like that?
Do you see overlap into the other things that you're doing because you've really spearheaded that sub-DOW?
Or was that more just from the Green Pill network maybe that would benefit that?
Well, actually Earthys DOW was the DOW that Green Pill DOW.
So we weren't so aware of the region network, region ecosystem in Turkey.
And actually I wasn't so aware of region ecosystem globally.
And I didn't understand what the people are doing like region and yeah, what's that?
Then we met with Earthys DOW and that's when I understand how the things go.
So they started as a hemp powering, like how can I maybe use English?
I didn't think of it in English before. So they grew hemp and then it's a frontier in Turkey.
There is not so many people doing that.
And then they take out everything from hemp and they made it into product.
And in this process, they collaborated with villagers, mostly women, to turn it into product.
And in the process, of course, the women learned a lot of things.
And from the sales of these products, they returned back, some percentage is a good percentage,
to these people who produce the product.
Like they just...
How we talk about Facebook owning our content, right?
They didn't try to own their product.
They just be the people who are in the middle, making them reach out in the larger market.
So of course for that effort, they need some returns.
So small percentage goes to Earthys and a big percentage goes to the producers.
And this role, Earthys was able to continue doing the same thing for other people.
So that's what made me click.
So it's not like you are volunteering with doing everything for free.
Actually, it's not sustainable.
Like if you do everything voluntarily for free, you cannot continue that forever.
But if you create an economy over empowering people who need that or empowering environment for who needs that,
then this economy can help both ways.
It can help you continue to do better things.
And it can help the other people earn their money without getting spoiled by Facebook or trade courts.
So that was the time when they green-filled us, when they explained what they do.
I was like, okay, you are doing the good thing, you are doing the right thing.
That's what we should be trying to do.
And now we are trying to find with Earthys in the Earthys Network.
We are getting people in the Earthys Network, and then we show them what we did and what we are trying to do.
And then they also do their own thing.
And with Earthys Network, we try to make them meet with new people,
with people who can collaborate.
Let's say a sustainable village needs some solar panels, solar stuff to power their village, right?
So we can go to, I don't know, solar pumps and ask them, how do we do this?
How can we fund this?
How can we get technical information and everything?
So because we know these people, and they are also doing public groups, and they are also doing public groups, it's good to collaborate.
And this is an amazing part that I also like very much.
The collaboration that, like, whenever people ask me about projects and how they do it, I say, find the people you can collaborate with.
Like, if you don't know something, find the people you can collaborate with.
It already will be encouraged in our community.
Don't try to be the sole project that does everything and does it perfectly, it doesn't matter.
Make collaborations and get stronger together.
I think that's what makes us really strong in that tree.
Collaboration builds the nation.
There is so many opportunities for collaborating in this space, I think unlike any other industry.
And if you're launching a startup in Web3 and you're not trying to collaborate with people,
you're definitely just missing out on so many great opportunities to make a difference.
And yeah, that's one of the things I love about Let's Grow Dallas.
It's like so many builders coming together, helping each other, you know, for they have this Let's Grow Live thing, we're live 24-7.
We're planning a regen festival in November, and it's just like everyone coming together and helping each other.
If there's ever anything that I can do to help people in that ecosystem, you know, I will at the drop of a hat do what I can to help out because these are just genuine, really amazing people.
On that note, I got to give a few more shout outs here.
Okay, so shout out to Jerry, I think I may have already mentioned, but he's also in here.
That's another consonant that I didn't mention before.
Shout out to Martinez, who had a nice environmental thing where he typed Let's Grow.
Shout out to John Kawagumba, my brother from another mother.
By the way, John was with me when I did the last 24-7, sorry, not 24-7, 24-hour tree planting thing for the world record.
Shout out to John, who typed Let's Grow.
And then Publica is Africa, who did hashtag Let's Grow with four W's.
I'm not sure that's going to work, buddy, but the effort was there, and we appreciate you.
So much love, everyone who's typing to Let's Grow.
One thing I want us to want to bring up about Earthist DAO is the QF round that was run, which you operated on Gitcoin.
So this was a citizen round.
So for those of you who aren't familiar, a citizen round is where, similar to their main Gitcoin round,
it's quadratic funding, right?
So donations get matched depending on how many people are verified and contributing.
But this is for the citizens, the people who are not with an official salary position at a DAO or at a startup,
but are taking initiative.
And then this can be retroactive.
People who have already taken initiative or take it into the future.
People who plan to take initiative, and then people can contribute to that, and you have a matching pool, et cetera.
So what were your experiences like running a quadratic funding round for Earthist DAO
as a citizen round?
It's definitely something that Tregens is working towards, and we're definitely going to be running one as well.
But I'd love to learn what were some of the learnings.
What worked well?
What didn't work well?
What would you do next time differently, if possible?
So in Earthist DAO, it's running much before than me.
So there are people who contributed voluntarily.
There are farmers who put some fertilizers on the hemp farms.
Or there are people who build NFTs for these hemp farms products.
And there were other people who run computers, or like everyone did something physically or on the digital environment.
So Earthist had this fund collected in these years.
It was small in the beginning, but at the end of 2022, we had a quite good sum of funds.
So we were looking for a way to distribute these funds for the older contributors who weren't expecting anything, actually.
They just wanted to help.
But this is actually what I learned from bankers.
We need to reward our people who helped us to grow.
So that's what we were trying to do.
They weren't expecting that.
But then one day, we came out and, okay, we will retroactively grant you for your efforts for growing Earthist DAO.
But we weren't able to define who did what and how much would it take for us to make a good impact on their life so that they would appreciate or at least get something out of it.
We didn't want to decide, okay, you get five, whatever, you get 10, whatever.
We weren't able to do it because the value is not something we can decide.
And then in Greenfield Network, I learned about quadratic funding, and I joined the training, the quadratic funding round manager training, round operator training.
And then it clicked.
You know, they just fit in together perfectly.
And it was amazing because at the same time, Arbitrum just started their matching fest.
And the Arbitrum matching fest is basically if you create your quadratic funding round on Arbitrum chain,
they check for if you're a public group, if you are contributing to the Arbitrum network or like things that I can remember now, but you can easily find it on Bitcoin forms.
So everything comes together like puzzle pieces.
And then we were like, okay, there is no question.
We are doing a quadratic funding on Arbitrum.
And we accepted on the Arbitrum matching fest for 25% boost on our matching pool.
And we did it, you know, like started with the date that Arbitrum wanted us and they wanted to do it at the same time with Bitcoin 19.
And we did it.
What went well is that we were 11 contributors.
And if we leave it at that, we were only 11 people distributing to each other.
But we made it.
We made the round public and made a little bit noise over it.
So instead of 11 people deciding for each other's job.
The Italian community, the Arbitrum community and the Italian, of course, community were able to join us.
And we get 48 unique donations.
The donation was not so big, of course, but it made us see and understand the value distribution.
You know, like it generated more distributed, more understandable distribution in the round.
So that was good.
That was a good thing we take.
But since it was a citizens round and it didn't plan it to be like in a public round, then Arbitrum kind of put these expectations on the round.
Of course, because they are Arbitrum and they are making this for their also marketing too.
The application quality was a little bit low for Arbitrum's round manager.
Not round manager, but the Arbitrum ecosystem.
And that was my first round and I thought we can change things on the way and stuff.
But I did a little bit of calculation on the date.
So we had a little bit of low quality applications for outside.
We understood what's going on.
Of course, like the 11 people who joined, we were able to understand who did what.
But from outside it looked a little bit like, I don't know, can be more images, can be more links.
You know, like we had everything.
Everyone already shaded on their Twitter like what they did.
Like you can find easily these first protectors putting fertilizers and shoveling themselves, you know, like 20 something meters squares of place, like a big place.
And they shoveled it by themselves.
We knew that, but they just wrote down fertilizing the hemp farm.
So from outside, it wasn't so able to understand the impact of it.
And that's what I would do better next time for explaining them, explaining the participants to have their impact, impact groups, actually, a little bit more on the open.
And I would be like probably making workshops to how to create your projects on Bitcoin and how to make them look good and how to apply to the round.
That would be what I would do better.
But other than that, it was amazing.
You know, with the 25% boost, people were much happier than our small budget.
And like, you know, it was amazing.
And it was a very good experience.
Very cool. Yeah.
Way to go.
Thank you, Arbutum, for matching all of those rounds.
Yeah, thank you, Arbutum.
You can just, everyone can just also add the thank Arbutum on the reply, you know.
Because on February, if anyone is thinking of doing farm distribution on February, Arbutum is doing another round.
And like, they would have dates soon, I think.
And we will probably share.
So if you follow us, you will see.
Do it on February and do it on Arbutum and apply for the matching fest.
So probably you will get a boost too.
There you go.
The pace to follow.
Follow Ray Bankless.
Follow Earthys Network.
Earthys Dao.
Follow everyone in here.
There are amazing humans in here.
I can vouch for pretty much everyone in here as being just great humans.
And I love all of you.
Thank you for showing up here.
Thank you for typing Let's Grow.
Okay, more shout outs.
All right.
So Earthys Dao came through with the Let's Grow.
Love any emojis.
Put my head in there, the emoji of my head.
Ray Bankless, you did it as well.
Love all the O's and the W's.
Love Kaipi.
She's such a great supporter of Max Impact.
Maybe Max Impact should do a citizen round someday.
I don't know.
Let's Grow.
Hashtag with Najmo.
Did the hashtag.
Rebioka, another great regen project.
Did the emojis as well.
Everyone else, head to the comments section and type Let's Grow.
Because we are growing a movement, baby.
We are growing the regen movement.
All right.
You know, now we are working on actually with Rebioka.
And I'm really happy that like they may be fertilizers.
It's not just fertilizers, but we will be using that part from soldier flies.
Like soldier flies.
And then there is this project in Turkey that built this village for earthquake victims
from the 2003 earthquake in Turkey.
It's a big one.
So we are trying to connect these projects and create this ecosystem, the economy inside
the village.
They will learn how to grow the flies.
And they will, in the end, they will be able to eat their chicken from the bug and then
fertilize their farms with the fertilizers they produce.
And then use the products like if they eat chicken or like if they eat eggs from there
or they will tell them.
Like, you know, they will create the aim is to be able to create this economy.
So this is, I think, what I can say that Bankwurst Dow, Turkey is trying to do.
We met Rebioka in different platforms.
We met Erneke, we are in Earth's network.
And then we thought that, OK, this is these two projects, they can just come together
and they can create this amazing thing.
And how can we take this to Rep3?
Like, Rebioka is already on Rep3 with the NFTs.
But our suggestion was try to get that NFTs on optimism so that you can create some
transactions and like an economy on optimism.
Because on January, on this summer, we have another Rep for PGF summer.
So let's get it, you know, like let's go for it.
Booyah, smart man.
Yeah, that's good.
Good to get on the optimism.
You're feeling optimistic.
There's a lot of retroactive funds flowing around in public good space.
And by the way, oh, on that note, and by the way, I love that story.
Rebioka, you're welcome to come up here if you want to chit chat as well.
I've sent you an invite.
Actually, everyone's welcome to come up to the stage.
OK, it is open mic.
All right.
But I did want to mention that Let's Grow Dow.
By the way, we have El Presidente of Let's Grow Live as a concept.
And it's actually Anna.
She is the president of Let's Grow Live now.
And she has organized from the Let's Grow Dow account this retro PGF recap Twitter space.
Look at that.
In four hours, it got 24 people who hit going.
Super cool.
So there's a lot of buzz around this.
And we're going to be delving into some of the learnings.
Karl made a really great thread.
I don't know if you saw that.
There was a post on, I don't know if it was Optimism or a Gitcoin.
But I'll try to dig that up as well.
And he just shared really good learnings about takeaways of analyzing all the top 50 out
of, I think, 600.
But top 50 each got 100,000 OP tokens, which doubled right before it was issued.
So that's 300K.
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, we have a very special guest.
The legendary crypto altruism is joining that space, which is super awesome.
I don't know.
It wasn't in the announcement post.
But Anna told me that.
So maybe you can confirm, Drew.
But yeah.
So definitely check out that space if you're able to come through.
Learn about the OP ecosystem and how you can make an impact with public goods.
And I also love how these are also great examples of real world impacts and initiatives,
startups, that then come into Web 3 with the angle like, OK, yeah, we can do an NFT,
or we can do a token, or we can leverage blockchain in a specific way.
You know what I mean?
There's so much in the blockchain space that's being launched.
And of course, it's all essential if you're building infrastructure, things also super important.
But to have a backbone, a business that actually can function on its own,
and then tap into Web 3, and it could just supercharge the impact
and add additional transparency layers and different funds that can flow to what's really needed.
I think transparency will be key for public goods, especially public goods,
because first of all, in public goods, we need to be funded,
not from just like crypto, to be funded from traditional places.
You need proofs.
And blockchain will give us that.
Now we are working with some whole thing, with some network, little network,
that we can probably be able to notarize our data like, say, what do you do?
Like the fertilizers from mediocre, right?
We have 10,000 slides, and from these 10,000 slides, we made 2 kilograms of fertilizer.
And with this 2 kilograms of fertilizer, we can fertilize 2, 5 meters squared of farm.
So all that data, we need to show people as proof.
But then all the proof we have now is Excel sheets and like paper that we write on.
Whatever.
But with the blockchain tool, we will be able to get all these data notarized by basic machines
connecting to crypto wallet and then converting these data to blockchain.
And everyone will be able to publicly see what's going on in your project.
So this is, I think, this transparency and proof of things, whatever.
For us, public would be others for speaking or whatever.
You know, this proof of things on blockchain.
And the transparency will be our key structures to move forward and carry on.
Yeah, no, I love that.
By the way, we have another legendary host up here.
None other than King Fish Hall.
What's up, King Fish?
How we doing?
King Fish-a-men?
I know you don't like it when I change your name, but what's up, man?
How you doing?
I'm doing great.
How are you?
How are you?
I'm grateful.
This is the present, sir.
The question, so the Let's Grow Dow, right?
So if you are a member of the Dow on gilb.xyz, the event is posted there as well outside of this platform.
So it's just another web-free solution and way that you can tap in with Let's Grow Dow.
So I know you had a question as far as whether it's there or not.
I'm looking at it right now on my desktop on the Let's Grow Dow gilb.xyz page.
And it's amazing what we're doing here.
Dropping the knowledge bombs.
Wait, Steve, you're looking at it right now.
Can we see?
Is crypto altruism coming through?
Did I hallucinate that?
What do you mean?
Can you confirm?
Does it say on the guild page?
Oh, on the banner.
Crypto altruism.
OK, maybe that's TBC.
Maybe Anna never said that.
I could have sworn she said that.
I don't know.
Drew, come up here, buddy.
Are the rumors true?
Is it real?
Do let us know.
I do know Drew was featured on the space yesterday, if I'm not mistaken as well, right?
Can you give us a thumbs up on that?
Give it space, right?
Drew is crushing it in spaces lately.
He's absolutely crushing it.
What's up, Drew?
How you doing, buddy?
I'm doing good.
My phone cut out a little bit there as you were asking the question.
What was the question you're looking for confirmation for again?
So we let's go.
Dow is doing a retro PGF.
What was it recap?
A recap of retro PGF the last round.
And I could have sworn I heard Anna say that you were like a guest on that.
You're going to be speaking to that.
Is this true or no?
Well, I did, you know, RSVP and send a like and a heart and a telegram channel.
So I'll definitely be there and I'd be happy to be a guest if you'd like for sure.
I have not.
Okay, cool.
But that was not a thing that was confirmed.
But super cool that you would do that.
Appreciate you.
I think you're wearing the confirmation now live as we speak, right?
There we go.
It's a confirmation.
You're the special guest now, Drew.
I hope you're down for that.
You're here first.
All right.
Awesome, man.
So friends, if you're out there in the audience and you want to come up, please do feel free.
Tap the mic in the bottom left.
Don't be shy.
We were just talking about how collaboration is so key in Web 3, right?
So many collaborations.
More than I could possibly count collaborations that have formed right here in the spaces.
Couple extra shout out.
I think I did another hashtag let's grow in the comments with a bit of a shell, so check
that out.
Humminbird Warrior also did the hashtag let's grow.
Crypto Awesome did the let's grow and Happy Days.
Earth is nice.
Okay, cool.
So the green...
One second.
One second.
If I can say.
I just wanted to touch on that note you're talking about collaboration, right?
About collaboration being the seed.
And that's exactly how our business structure is modeled, right?
You know that firsthand with Four Trees Club now being, you know, an operating partner
as part of Kingfisher's media.
And it is about collaboration over competition.
And that's really what's really cool to see maturing now.
You know, you guys know I've been in this space almost four years now.
And when I first came into this space, all the communities were siloed.
It was all competition, competition, competition, competition.
But I feel that the narrative is slowly catching on that the only way we're all going to be
successful however we measure that in this space is through collaboration.
So I cannot highlight and emphasize that enough.
It feels like I forget what you mean, but you know, we're all going to make it man.
If you keep this up with this mentality, we're all going to make it.
Yeah, I love it.
OK, super cool.
So yeah, DM the people in this space right now.
Be like, hey, I like what you're doing there.
Can I help?
Hey, have you met this guy?
Oh, I think have you thought about this thing?
You know, just try to add value to each other's lives.
I think that's that's where a great collaboration starts.
It's like giving without expectation, you know, and, you know, maybe there's something
you could clap on in the future.
But but just just build those relationships with people because, yeah, y'all are all great.
Like I have the privilege of assembling some some absolutes gems in this space who come
through Max Impact.
So thank you for being all for you.
And thank you to the shout out to the Beegens real quick from social bees.
Dow, a lot of y'all have, you know, continue to come through here, even though I have changed
my PFP like it's like it's a new shirt.
I will always have my social peace NFT.
I'm not selling.
Same with my monster NFT.
All right.
For those of you who are going to the monster games.
All right.
We love y'all.
But yeah, I'm I'm I'm repping this nounish because I was I was on board into public
nouns by John.
So yeah, I think it's pretty cool for now.
All right.
So I wanted to talk about the Green Pill Network, OK, something that was initially
started by a walkie who also started get coin.
And this is like, you know, I think it's it's it's would you consider this a subdow
officially? Or is there another term for that?
Well, it's the chapter is the term is chapter Green Pill chapter.
But it's it's not a full organization right now, Green Pill, the Green Pill Network is
I know it started like two years ago, but it's taking off more like after 2023.
It's not yet a dollar.
It's still kind of a centralized organization.
Maybe we can call it a proto-dow, like an organization trying to be a dollar, but it's
not yet there because.
Rightfully, they they they they are trying to be more like.
Have this rule to become a chapter more than super permission, though, you know, like if
we if we are going to be a dollar, then we have we will have our guidelines very nicely
put out and we will be able to help the new chapter.
And they don't even like they are now learning with the more chapters coming came in 2023.
They are learning how to how to be more and more in guidance with the chapters like when
we joined, when we put out back the Green Pill here, it was more permissionless and there
was less guidance.
Yes, there was a guidance, but less less than now.
Now, when you want to be a new chapter, there are meetings like to onboard you and then
try to explain what we are trying to do, because like we we were not for sure about if
we are doing the right thing, if we are doing these things, but if it's in the in the vicinity
of Green Pill Network's mission, it is what it could have been better, like they are the
Green Pill is more like looking for real life, like it's wrong physical world interaction
than translation or video content.
So we coming from Bankus now, I was like, OK, just let's start with the content and let's see
where it goes. But that's not the mission of that group, you know.
So I think that they are doing right, being more getting slower on the intake of the chapters.
And again, it's their difference from like what I see from other adults.
They don't have this super branchy guild and departments and whatever.
They have this main core group that is trying to guide people in the ways that the mission
solve. And there is a chapter who should be doing physical world interaction that can be
just small talks with people like weekly meetings on physical locations with people around you, or
they can be better, better if they are public goods, smaller big public goods that are done in a
frequency in the physical world.
Like Carlos from Webtree Beach is, I think, a good example for that, because what they were doing
is already a beach cleaning event everywhere in South America.
I think they started in Honduras and then they had other people joining them and learning from them.
So that was a good example for me, because it's not a big thing, you know, like this five, ten
people going on the beach cleaning and then doing whatever.
But what's expected there is more physical, public good and more physical.
So that's why I think the intake of chapters is a little bit slower.
Now they are trying to understand which chapters are more active than active as they need and which
chapters are doing other things than they are planning to do.
So when I think when this structure framework gets into place, it will be more like a DAO.
OK, we are DAO, do whatever you want in this explanation, in this mission.
But you are doing always translation.
That's a good thing, like, OK, but that's not what we are looking for.
This DAO will be doing physical world interactions, public good and this DAO.
Also, Fairfront is something that they want to, you know, because Kevin started it and it is super interconnected with what we do.
So that's the thing, that's the thing, like find local people, again, physical, find local NGOs, local communities, local people and then teach them or guide them or operate their QF rounds.
And it's, again, physical, right, you know, like people are doing physical things on the ground and then you show them how to fund it and how to reward the contributors.
You are not maybe doing the physical work, but then you are showing how to reward the people who did the physical work, which is like what we did in Earth is DAO, right?
They came and they put their effort into the farm and then two years later, maybe, but they get rewarded for what they did and people felt really good about it.
Beautiful. Yeah, I love that concept of impact onboarding, do the good thing, receive crypto and NGOs can run QF rounds as well.
I know I'm here in Pangan where there's also a green pill chapter and Paul's just the other day at a meeting with the eco Thailand and Paul set that up and they're helping us do some mangrove stuff in Pangan.
And and he was like, you know, mid conversation about that, like also showing them the QF potential and like the guy was super into it.
He's like, all right, show me the way.
So always in Thailand, I see like Paul is going like everywhere now, like I cannot believe he's amazing.
Yeah, Paul is one of a kind, he's super passionate, he's all in, he's running a refi DAO node and a green pill chapter and eco synthesis and he's helping with the festival and, you know, let's go down and I think he was talking about a marketplace too and I'm like, yo, this guy is all in web3 for impact, I love it.
But but yeah, so all right, well, we're at the top of the hour now and we got some wise souls up here, friends, if you feel like you got some wisdom and you want to share it, we're in our final segment now.
All right. And that is words of wisdom.
OK, so tap the mic in the bottom left.
Don't be shy.
Actually, real quick, before we get to that, Ray, is there anything that I didn't ask you that you want to share with people?
Well, from your mail, actually, there was a there was a point that what would be a lesson that you want to share, you know?
Oh, yeah, that's that's words of wisdom. That's words of wisdom. We're going to get there.
I just because sometimes when I get to words of wisdom, I people just feel their things and I'm like, all right, well, like, come on now, like, let's let's try that as much value.
So so I'm like, that's why I'm like, prefacing words of wisdom with like, hey, like anything else you want to say, like real quick, then we'll get to it.
But if not, it's fine. We can go straight into words of wisdom.
So, right. Go to that.
Yeah, OK, let's go. Oh, you know, can we end on you?
I usually end on my.
OK, we'll end on you. OK, all right.
First, let's get to crypto altruism.
It's something you may want to have on a billboard for a million people to say, something you might want to have taught in schools, something you think people ought to know some nuggets of knowledge, if you will.
Oh, well, I think I'll go back to my experience having burnt out many times in previous careers and in my early experience in Web 3 is that I disconnect the space is 24 seven.
You don't have to be. And it's OK to set boundaries, take time away and disconnect for a bit.
So that's my wisdom for today.
Disconnect, I love that.
Yes, I did it the other day.
My phone just ran out of battery instead of like trying to get a portable charger or like sitting by the wall.
I just like I just left somewhere to charge and just went about my day.
And I had a great day, you know, like not just like going back to the weekend anyway, whatever.
But like, you know, yeah, disconnecting has a lot of marriage.
I like that. Great words of wisdom.
I think Nitell may have said something on it.
By the way, every Wednesday coming up tomorrow, depending which time zone you're in, Nitell, who you'll see in the in the audience there, a little monster carrying a bee.
She does things called Wellness Wednesday.
I don't know if it's every Wednesday. I think it's I think it's pretty much every Wednesday.
So check that out. A lot of great wellness tips in there, such as the one that the amazing true cryptologists just shared.
All right. Ray Bankless, you've been prepped for this.
Lay it on us. What are your words of wisdom, my friend?
Mine is talk about decentralization, even with the people who think they know decentralization.
This is from our experience in Bankless Dao and probably we got trashed a lot in Twitter, like in the recent times,
just because we applied to Arbitrum and RetroPGF as a separate subdaoist.
And I realized that we have to explain what decentralization is to the RPGF community.
Like they are they are running as a Dao and like I hate to explain why 16 Bankless Dao names projects are on RPGF because they did different things.
We are not the same people. We are not getting run from the same place.
Whatever Bankless Turkish did, Bankless Turkish decided to do that.
Whatever Bankless Japan did, Bankless Japan made the effort to do that.
Like they started it, they initiated it, they worked for it.
If they get some help from us, that's fine, of course.
But it's their thing and the others are our thing.
And this is like what we were talking in the beginning of the conversation, right?
What the subdao, what they do.
They do different things in the same mission.
So talk about and teach about decentralization and autonomy and Dao,
because we have a long way to go to everyone to adopt us, to learn about us.
And that's my work.
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing, my friend.
Decentralization, super key.
You live in it. You live in and breathe in it, man.
He's got the Bankless Dao t-shirt on right now in the video.
He's leading the subdao and making such a great impact.
Earthys Network, we got Soto coming in here at the end.
Much about the Soto, pioneering Earthys Network, the Earthys Dao.
All right, so we're going to end here and we're going to end on a song.
We're going to get down to a little emoji dance, hopefully this time it works.
OK, I have one queued up.
We're ready to go. But just in case you have a song of quests,
that is you're right as a guest, just in case.
I wasn't ready for that.
So let's go with yours.
You weren't ready for that, OK?
It was really good in the beginning.
So I had my trust in you. You get you get good DJ.
No worries. Yeah, I got this.
So I'm going to play a song that was actually
remixed, reworked by a regen.
OK, this this artist is called Blondish.
That's Blond, colon, I.S.H.
She did something called Revenge of the Regen.
She got an NFT collection out there.
She got a $70,000 sellow grants to reward people for picking up classics.
You also heard the nonprofit called Buy That Classic.
She's also an incredibly talented DJ and musician.
And I'm manifesting that she comes to Regina Sans Festival in November
by playing the song for you guys. All right.
So all right.
I mentioned something called an emoji dance.
If you're new here, Chippy, Ryle, maybe some of y'all.
An emoji dance is where you tap an emoji to the beat.
OK, this is how we get down in the spaces, right?
So I'm going to play this tune for y'all.
And when I do, make sure you're getting down.
All right. Getting down like Charlie Brown.
And here we go. OK, bam.
All right. We're sharing it.
OK, so the audio is coming in to the video stream and we're Gucci.
All right. OK, give me some emoji reacts if this is working just in case.
Let's grow, guys, have that emoji.
Who recognized this one?
Hey, let's see it.
See some hearts.
Get some claps growing.
Let's climb.
Hey, Jerry knows what's up.
Let's grow, crypto bus.
I love the video for a karaoke version.
You got the words coming up.
Let's go, go, Goomba.
Let's show me.
Let's do it.
I want to feel my love here.
I know you can show me.
Let's put my heart on my knee.
Love to be.
So I want to show me.
I'm feeling so ungloved by my name.
I'm feeling so ungloved by my name.
I love you, I love everybody in here.
Much love to Ray, much love to Drew, much love to crypto bust, to Earth ist, to Fidus
gang, to Kingfisher, to Bancliff, to Turkey, to Jerry, to Najmo.
Much love to Fatty, but happy, much love to Kyle, and much love to Chippy.
Until next time friends, keep doing what you love, keep spreading love and making impact.