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MAX IMPACT EP 502 - Regen Network ALPHA
Recorded: July 1, 2025 Duration: 1:07:10Space Recording
Short Summary
The Max Impact Show has officially launched, focusing on empowering change makers through technology, with Regen Network leading the charge in regenerative finance and biodiversity credits. The conversation highlighted significant partnerships, fundraising efforts, and the growing trend of integrating ecological health into blockchain markets.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hi, Jimmy. Can you hear me?
Good morning. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Welcome, Dave.
Greetings. Greetings, sir.
Greetings, greetings.
Just warming up the space here.
I'm going to drop it in a couple of groups.
And then we'll get this show on the road
growmentarily.
No problem.
Alright, alright, alright.
So, first of all,
welcome
wilds.tgn, welcome Kawagumba, welcome Matthew, let's all ret welcome Wiltz.TGN.
Welcome Kawagoombo.
Welcome Matthew.
Let's all retweet this face.
Bottom right.
I just planted it up in the garden.
You can max engage with that.
Tell your neighbor, tell your sister that it's going to grow down.
Okay, so let me just play a quick little track here.
It's not going to be perfect audio, but it will be fun.
It will be a good vibe.
This is Let's Grow by
Carla God.
Build the people like you, blend the trees and grow.
Two or three and grow.
Make you impact all.
Besides the change don't happen, that itself is wrong.
What you know about building and changing?
Getting users on board you away.
One at the station and that's a container.
We can at the station, it's like that's in the bank.
Shout out to the builders, I'm never gave up.
Jimmy and the team, we'll never want that.
Let's go.
We all come and make it here, the date we grow. Geek on an email. the Let's grow, build your chain and grow, make innocence grow, build up people like to plant the trees and grow Do or three and grow
Make you impact on
Societal change don't happen by itself, it's grown
Societal change don't happen by itself, it's grown
Beautiful message
Alright friends, retweet the room, bottom right
Let's get this doctor This song is made by a mangrove tree planter in rural Tanzania.
He just dropped it in our channel.
Let's go! tree planter in rural Tanzania and he just dropped it in our channel I Once upon a time, there were beings who wanted to create something.
These beings carefully guarded an aspect of consciousness called light.
At different times, these guardians of light met and worked together in the different realms of reality.
And they designed a time when their plan would go into effect.
These beings are you, and that time is now.
And each of you knows, in the deepest portions of your being, that you have come here for
a purpose.
You are beginning to feel what may be coming.
Hello and welcome everybody to the Max Impact Show. This is the live spaces show that is all
about empowering you, the change makers, to maximize your positive impact in the world
by leveraging the latest and the greatest technology.
With me today is none other than the legendary Dave.
So Dave Fortson of Regen Network is an absolute legend.
So Regen Network, if you're living under a rock, is basically pioneering not only refi,
I mean, they literally came up with the term refi, but also now
biodiversity credits.
I believe they have the biggest, if not one of the biggest registries, all of biodiversity
credits, and they are absolute pioneers in the space, and I'm super grateful to share
the space with yourself, Dave, because I know you're making a massive, massive impact over
at Regen Network as the chief growth officer.
So we have a tradition here, Dave, and that's to always, always start with why.
So I want to ask you what's your why I'm talking about, your personal why, your inner drivers, your motivators.
What gets you specifically out of bed in the morning and fuels you to burn the midnight oil?
If you'd encapsulate it into one description, how would you describe
the why of Dave? Great question. Well, maybe I'll share what inspired my journey at 16 years old
in the foothills of Palo Alto, California, after where there was a fire in the Stanford foothills.
And I don't even remember how I ended up there, but I was,
it was a mix of two things. One, I was taking a theology of nature course at my Jesuit high school.
And it was tied together, you know, the, at least the contemporary view of how
you know, the, at least the contemporary view of how religion and protecting the planet could be
one in the same, you know, and, you know, transparently, I'm not much of a religious dude
these days, but it was quite inspiring to think about that. And there was the offering up the
ability, and you'll love this, Jimmy, of going and planting oak tree saplings in
these fire-scarred areas to facilitate the regrowth of native oak forests in that area.
And that really set me on a path that has only been reinforced since then by me now being charged and responsible for bringing now two young women into this world.
and enjoyed from the plains of Africa to the mountains of Nepal to the oceans in Tahiti
and anywhere that just the amount of just something we take for granted, the unreal beauty
and miracle of our natural world that we are stewards of and part of and making sure that my daughters and their
children have the ability to enjoy life's greatest gift, which is our ability to interact with this
beautiful planet, you know, and it's awe-inspiring. Yeah, just it's hard to explain. It's hard to put
into words, right? You walk outside.
I'm sitting here, like, in my office in Santa Barbara, and I'm watching hummingbirds sip nectar from a little tree right outside of my window.
And, you know, people just walk by and take it for granted.
And because we've become so used to this magical movie that is in front of our eyes every day and, you know, and don't contemplate
that this actually is under threat and protecting it and giving Earth a chance to fully express
its magic in coordination and harmony with us humans is really what drives me.
It's what helps me grow in the spirit of Jimmy, the great Jimmy.
Let's grow. That's a beautiful story, man. Thank you for sharing that. You know, a lot of people
are thinking about, who get involved in the region space are thinking about the next generation,
right? And what kind of planet are we going to be leaving, you know, our kids?
And it's beautiful.
So I think about that and got involved at the young age.
And so you're studying environmentalism, you're taking action,
you're thinking about these different things.
How did you then come across the wild world of Web3? How did you first learn about how blockchain can be used as a force for good
in regeneration of our planet? Yeah, it's a good question. The lead up to that story is I basically
have spent my entire professional career in what I call the better world space, mostly focused on ecological protection through advocacy
in my previous life as a community activist and as a policymaker. Believe it or not, I had a stint
making policy at the public level and working with state assembly members as a staffer
state assembly members as a staffer here in California. And then I ran a marketing
communications and strategy firm for close to 12 years, you know, where we worked with
ecological and social impact groups, helping them achieve their mission. And so it's been
a professional theme. But what tied me into this kind of weird world of Web3 and ecological protection and regeneration was living on, I lived on a ranch, a 300-acre ranch, old cattle ranch in Santa Barbara County, right on the ocean.
I literally looked outside of my window, and there was a beautiful little surf break.
I could walk under the freeway with my surfboard.
We were bringing luminaries in what we, you know, now what is known as permaculture and
often called regenerative agriculture these days into our ranch to help bring other ranchers,
you know, salt of the earth ranchers, to see what was possible around
holistic rangeland management and building soil health and soil biology. So we would bring just
broad scale landscape regeneration. We started an institute called the Aurelia Stewardship
Institute. So while I was, you know, raising then two very young girls,
we lived in a little shack and, you know,
we only had a compost toilet and outdoor shower.
We were trying to facilitate systemic change.
And that, of course, not surprisingly got me in touch with Regen Network's founders,
co-founders Gregory Landaway and Christian Shearer and Will,
who were also in that world
as consultants and permaculture advisors. And that is where I started my journey that
started in 2017, believe it or not, with Regen Network, even before the white paper was published
with the idea that, hey, we need to provide more agile, fair, just, modular opportunities
for land stewards to be paid for their stewardship and to create opportunities for decentralized
global scale of payment for ecosystem services, to pay indigenous communities, to pay farmers and ranchers, and give them more
tools in a world that frankly punishes good stewardship in most ways, right? Because it's
hard to make legible and monetize and to really honor the stewardship of the lands that these individuals are caretaking across the world, we need better
tools for them.
We need better payment rails.
We need better design and products so that their work can be scaled and we can get them
as much revenue as possible. And as a global community,
work in collaboration to figure out which behavioral practices and
methodologies are best.
And so they said, hey, we've got Web3.
It's this cool new way of thinking about how to essentially infect modern
day economics with ecological health.
And we would love your support in thinking through this.
And that started my journey on Regen. And that was, God, it was eight years ago now,
believe it or not. Wow, eight years. You guys are really pioneers, man. Like,
you've paved the way. I mean, from literally quoting the term refi to,
I believe you guys were the first to sell tokenized carbon credits, right? Like 10 million
worth of Microsoft? We were on the carbon side. That's a good question on who was first. I mean,
our friends, you know, and I know they're a bit controversial, but they are pioneers as well.
Klima, I know, tokenized early carbon credits that were already on the market from Vera,
you know, much to their chagrin at Vera, but really, you know,
lit the fire in a lot of ways around this space.
But as far as like working with land stewards natively to bring their methodologies, digitize
those and develop our own, I think we're one of the first token registries that was Web3 native.
Certainly, Regen has been the pioneer in that space for a number of years now.
Yeah, well, Queen of Dow was later than 2017, wasn't it?
Yeah, and to be fair, we didn't even launch Mainnet for those Web3 geeks.
The first block was not produced until 2021.
So in 2017, 2018, 2019, frankly, we were doing a lot of thinking, a lot of design work.
We were getting associated with the Web3 ecosystem.
We were building the ledger and blockchain and all the things.
It was a slow roll, frankly, for the first number of years.
So I don't want to overstate or understate kind of what we were doing early days, but
the first blocks weren't produced until 2021.
Got it. Okay. That's when you launched as a chain. And so before that, with this Microsoft
tokenized carbon credit, that might have been like on another chain then.
Do you know which chain it was?
No, no, no.
Those were on Regen.
They were on Regen.
Oh, okay.
For some reason, I thought that was back in 2017.
Nope.
Nope.
That was in the right around there.
Oh, so it did happen later.
Oh, okay.
My bad.
All right.
Yeah, that's okay.
I've been spreading that around.
Bye, we go. Yeah, that was a huge deal.
I mean, Microsoft.
Yeah, it was.
And then the nice part about the Microsoft deal for those interested and give you a sense of how the kind of capacity of region, you know, one, if you've ever worked with a corporation of that size, the level of due diligence.
And I mean, you know, this is an analogy, but they essentially
go through your trash. You know, they'll they'll they they uncover, lift up every rock and look
for any wart and have incredibly high paid, very competent folks who are ensuring that their
investment, which in this case was north of a million dollars into a soil organic carbon
credit with partners that we had in Australia, that their, you know, meet the standards, the
high standards that Microsoft acquired, you know, in their goal to offset their entire carbon
footprint going back to 1970. And so that was very early in our history. And it was quite a challenge for a
small team with a novel approach and using novel technology. But we successfully pulled it off.
And it's still something I'm super proud about that we were able to do in a nascent space and
still somewhat early days for that type of a project to succeed
on that scale.
100%.
So yeah, as the head of growth, chief growth officer, you must have been playing a role.
So they're going through your trash, they're going through all this different, obviously
metaphorically, but insane due diligence.
What do you think it was that really made the regen project stand out? Because I'm sure they're looking at many, many different options.
I know you're working directly with the landowners, and I think this was regenerative agriculture,
right? Yeah, it was working with ranchers in Australia around a soil organic carbon credit that is called carbon plus grasslands is the name
of the credit and the methodology which you can still find at regen.registry I believe is the
address if you want to take a look at it why they chose us it's a great question I can't and I wasn't
just to be clear I was a contractor with regen back during that day so I don't, and I wasn't just to be clear, I was a contractor with Regen back during that day.
So I don't have all of the insight on exactly why, but certainly there weren't a lot of soil organic carving credits on the market at that time.
It's a pretty complex credit to originate and, you know, to bring with that level of due diligence to market.
to originate and, you know, to bring with that level of due diligence to market.
And, you know, we had the right, you know, in some ways it was the right place, right
time, right set of conditions.
It's not, you know, those kinds of things aren't easy to replicate at scale.
I mean, there's a lot of actors in the space, particularly these days, but we nailed it.
And, you know, our small team, you know, it consumed us essentially to pull that off from my recollection.
And but the on the other side, you know what it what it did. And I just want to keep landing this.
You know, it's these are transactions at the end of the day.
But what it leads to is revenue being directly sent to land stewards, right?
I mean, in large chunks of it, right?
Our goal has been from day one to make sure that we can make ecological health legible
to the biggest actors in the space, focusing on transparency and traceability and providing a platform that allows land stewards to express their
interpretation of ecological health in a bioregion and give them the tools to communicate
that, to monitor it, to report on it, and to develop assets.
And that continues to drive us to today.
But to go through that at such an early time of our history on the market was one of the more exciting and challenging things that we've done.
Super, super cool.
And, yeah, you guys are pioneers.
I definitely want to get into some alpha that I might share, you know, around what's next for Regen Network.
And I got a little bit of alpha to share in regards to that as well,
around the Regen token.
But so you had that early-ish success,
and I've been kind of building since 2017,
but early success there, you know, really pioneering this thing.
And then there's the whole network that launched
and then the regen token and my understanding now is that the regen token is going multi-chain so
uh it's not just on the on on your own network but it's also on like cello base a bunch of
different networks are you able to share what's happening? What's cooking with Celo?
Yeah, I'm happy to share. Well, and maybe I'll back up a little bit on Regen Token.
We're a U.S.-based company. And for those who live in the U.S., and for a nascent blockchain-based protocol,, you know, where the originating company,
what's called Regen Network Development, which is where the private company that built the public
ecological ledger called Regen Ledger, right, specifically for ecological accounting.
And to this day, as far as I'm aware, there is no blockchain that has been custom, a layer one
blockchain that has been custom built for ecological one blockchain that has been custom built for
ecological accounting. It was a huge lift for us to build that. It was a huge lift to go through
both, you know, the legal issues, the technical issues, and the whole concept of frankly
launching a token in the United States regulatory environment that at the time was quite skeptical,
if not hostile, to cryptocurrency, you know, which, you know, and there's good reason, right,
that it was, you know, the proliferation of pump and dump scams, the, you know, the kind of vaporware,
the, you know, folks wanting something with a white paper and a concept and raising tens of millions of dollars and it evaporating overnight has caused quite a bit of concern.
And I think there's relative, you know, quite warranted.
And at the same time, we were, you know, in some ways living in between two worlds, right?
you know, in some ways living in between two worlds, right? The DGENs who want, who get
excited about trading and chasing yield and things like that, you know, on the Web3 space and the Web2
space where we're essentially trying to make ecological health as, you know, legible as
possible and, you know, infect modern day economics with a new way of storing ecological value and bringing
that to the world and through currency and through credits and whatnot. We sat in this neither world
and frankly, in some ways, continue to sit there or not sit there, certainly no sitting. But we are
in that space and have been for a while.
And what made it really difficult when we launched in 2021 is we had Regen Token that essentially due to regulatory concerns, we simply could not invest time and energy into.
It was a liability risk.
It was a high-risk endeavor.
And we focused on tokenizing natural capital assets like
ecological assets like carbon and biodiversity credits but in a lot of ways the governance token
regen uh you know dollar sign regen um did not have a steward of its own uh it did not have
porting mechanisms uh while it enjoyed you you know, really interesting, you know, just
activity because crypto is volatile and wild.
It was not attended to.
And we that was unfortunate because in a lot of ways it is at the heart, the beating the
beating heart of what could be the future of what we're calling ecological wealth.
Right.
Is redefining
what wealth is.
Today, wealth for us, and I'm curious to hear your own take on this, Jimmy, is wealth is
often, at its core, deeply extractive and degenerative in nature, right?
And it's not because people want it to be that way.
It's because it's a legacy system that was built on people needing on zero sum games or where there needed to be losers. Right. And there needed to be. And it was and it was built on the backs of resource extraction of burning oil, of clearing forests, of developing land. And really, nature has not been at the table of decision making
around the development of economic models that are deeply pernicious, deeply in everyday
conversations that we don't even see chipping away at our best efforts to regenerate the planet.
They're really, and that's difficult. It makes our work as ecological stewards incredibly
hard because no matter how good our policies that, you know, governments adopt, and no matter how
cool the new product is that really inspires ecological regeneration, if the system as a
whole of economics is still specializing in the rapid extraction of resources from the planet and,
frankly, human health, then we are going to keep losing. And, you know, regen coin or regen token
since day one is really meant to be a vehicle to help build a better world with every transaction,
to redefine wealth not in how much money and things can I collect
at the expense of the planet and other human beings,
but to create positive sum games,
to be able to express ecological abundance
abundance, where the rivers are teeming with life, where the natural ecosystem, the services
where the rivers are teeming with life,
are optimized for clean air, clean water, vibrant ecologies that are 100% required in
order to operate civil society, whether you know it or not. Your supply chains,
every single transaction that you enjoy or every single luxury in life that you enjoy is built on
the backs of natural systems that have provided abundance to you but are now suffering from over-extraction and from not having nature at the table in
the design of this next wave.
So this is, you know, I think our goal, I know it's yours, Jimmy, or I believe it is,
of like, what does it look like to redefine wealth and to ecological wealth where there
is abundance in nature and that humans being part of nature can also enjoy that abundance,
where we are racing to see who can build the most robust and beautiful ecosystems.
And that at the core is what we're trying to do with RegenCoin, RegenToken,
in and to provide the public infrastructure for ecological advocates and ecological repair
experts to express their bioregional driven ways of restoring ecosystems at scale.
Thank you. Thank you.
Hey, Regen, this is Balls here.
I listened to your pitch over there and just really impressed with what you're doing.
I want to thank you for taking time to develop a project that's focused on social impact,
you know, because a lot of folks are focused on wealth generation and not on how they can do something for the benefit of society at large.
So thank you for your efforts.
You know, I just want to chime in here.
I know you guys are looking at the name of the project, Balls On You, and wondering how this ties into Max Impact.
But Balls On You is actually a social impact project, and Balls is an acronym, stands for
Bravery, Awareness, Wellbeing, Laughter, and Social Good.
What we're focused on right now is developing a new narrative in the crypto space to encompass
all the projects that are currently here,
you know, with the objectives that you currently have around social impact,
because we feel like social impact narratives are underrepresented in the crypto space,
and they're under supported on chains.
And we see a lot of times the projects that are focused just on hype and quick pump and dumps,
they get the attention and they get the traction. But these social impact projects,
you know, standing alone, usually don't get the attention that they need. So
what we're trying to do, you know, is to be a leader of a new narrative in the crypto space
that influencers and folks are talking about in the
next six months to a year about RWI projects. And we're building a coalition around that. So
currently we have about 22 projects that are currently aligned under the RWI narrative.
We're trying to get to 100 projects. Everybody retains their own focus and mission,
Everybody retains their own focus and mission, but we just collectively come together to eventually form a DAO in the future to kind of usher in that adoption of RWI that focus. Our initial goal is to get this as an acknowledged narrative on platforms like CoinMarketCap and CoinGecko
and then start to get projects to align under that as we move into the next phase of pushing this as a, you know,
a larger idea in the crypto space because we believe that, you know,
in order for us to really get to the forefront of social impact being something
meaningful and acknowledged, that we have to move in force and kind of show that,
you know, it's a viable narrative in the crypto space that, you know,
that has a large enough presence to be acknowledged and taken seriously.
So, you know, again, thank you for your focus and tree gens, you know,
thanks for what you guys have done, you know, so far to contribute to that effort.
So, yeah, that's all I have to say for now. Just going back on mute.
Right on. I love hearing that. Thank you so much for being another voice out there for, yeah, bringing real world impact, you know, and even, you know, RWAs these days are kind of an interesting characterization. But I love the RWI kind of reframe in a bit. And I think, you know, again, a culture within Web3 that deeply values Web3 technology and tools
to radically reorient how we connect to each other and how we relate. And being able to do that,
you know, in an elegant way, in a way that can capture the attention of, you know, the DGEN
community that can capture attention of the Web 2, even existing
kind of social impact industry, I think is the opportunity of our time.
And I feel like we're all pioneering here.
So big shout.
Would love to learn more.
And you can always send me something at David at Regen.network or at Earthboy75 on Telegram.
I appreciate that. at Regen.network or at EarthBoy75 on Telegram.
I appreciate that.
You know, our current efforts,
we're kind of expanding this RWI narrative in Africa.
We have a guy named Holy Digits.
He's holding a big event early July, you know,
at a university.
There's going to be about 2,000 students there.
So we're sending some ambassadors for the Balls on You project to that event to speak on stage and kind of promote the RWI initiative and our partnered
projects to highlight that. So if you were to go on the ballsonyou.life website, you know,
when people see the name and they see the character, they initially think D-Gen and humor.
That's the intent, right, know kind of rope them in with
humor and then have them stay for the impact but you'll see that we actually highlight you know
the rwi narrative and our rwi partners uh on that on that website so you know i think that you know
the cross section between all our all of our efforts is the interest in social good and i
think that if we all did our part to highlight and say, you know, what's important to us or to you as an individual might be different. You know, if I were to describe a
social impact thing that requires attention would be different for every person depends on where
you come from. You know, like for me personally, you know, being I'm a 20 year retired vet from
Brooklyn, New York, lived in Virginia.
I was a victim of gun violence several times in my life.
That particular issue is near and dear to my heart, mass shootings and constant gun issues we have in America. So we have a project around that problem set called Deep Defense Solutions, which will align with these real-world impact objectives.
But I think the magic behind the RWI narrative is everybody gets to bring the issues that's near and near to their heart.
We have folks focused on student loans, people in Africa focused on bringing sanitary pads and resources to disadvantaged females in those regions.
Everybody has something that's important. I think that as we gain more attention and we find conduits that our partners haven't discovered yet,
I think it's important to highlight that there are other impact projects out there
that require attention. So I think that the power of scale, the power of scales of economy
can be leveraged as we all focus on the narrative. And I think that it's a part of our due diligence collectively to say everybody's trying to
contribute to social impacts and everybody deserves to be highlighted.
That's the spirit of RWI.
So while folks join the group on X, they may not see a bunch of activity all the time,
but the current effort is to aggregate those 100 projects.
So when we get to the point where we're organizing and executing,
that the project-based community is there,
and we can leverage the efforts of everybody, their successes,
their communities, to spread that gospel and push that as a major narrative.
So, yeah, definitely looking forward to achieving that collectively. you
jimmy you there can i i'm not i can't tell if i'm glitching or not
we're in silence so I just stay there well Jimmy if you are there you are can be heard
no you're good i thought i was thinking the same thing but i figured you know there's power in silence so i just stayed there
yeah so I am you know currently traveling from work to home I live Europe. I try to hop on spaces and support the partners as I have time
to do so. You know, Jimmy and those guys, they gave a shout out to Balls On You, planting several
trees. So, you know, it was really heartwarming for me to see an alignment with all the social
impact projects and them doing meaningful stuff. So I have a special connection with the tree gen
community. So I was just,
I was just kind of prefacing that because when I get to get to the house,
it's family time you know, so I gotta,
I gotta make sure I'm equitable with how I'm spending my time.
Yeah. Fair, fair. Awesome. YC gleam.
You want to share what's moving on the gleam front? Yeah.
And I just looked at your quick bio. Sounds like we should be talking.
Well, we should. Hey man. Good to see you. And, and I'm sorry,
I was so late to the spaces. I got caught up doing some other stuff, but yeah,
I really, I just, I looked at your project quickly while you were speaking,
finishing everything up and it sounds really cool.
And I did have a question because I did miss a few things
um you're mostly focused on um larger kind of larger organizations so to speak like um
but do you do you ever think that you could do like a personal impact thing where somehow we
can get individuals involved I know uh regen is is an up-and-coming topic and a lot of people
really want to get involved but they kind of don't know how so I guess like how can the average individuals involved. I know Regen is an up and coming topic and a lot of people really
want to get involved, but they kind of don't know how. So I guess like how can the average
person get involved in what you're building? And I think we should definitely connect on
the back end because I really love what you guys are building and it looks really awesome.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I guess maybe it depends on which there's a number of ways, I guess, to answer that question. I mean, are certainly
one of our theses for systemic change has been to offer ecological repair experts better tools
in order to bring their stewardship to markets, right? And for markets to be able to see that
stewardship, be, you know, the radical transparency around it,
the traceability of impacts, the storytelling,
and be able to invest in that.
And so, you know, right now, frankly, even today,
you could go to the Regen Marketplace,
the Regen app.
If you go to regen.network and you go to the marketplace,
you can, anyone can, you know, use cryptocurrency
to purchase an ecological asset,
or you could go to regen.atlas, which
is one of our partners.
You could go to ecotoken.
Our goal is to be the substrate for the origination and management of ecological assets, but then
really kind of be in the background and make and let people, other organizations, institutions, actors and Web3
be able to take these tokenized natural capital assets and then, you know, bring them to their
own communities, you know, in whatever creative way they can be underlie an NFT project.
They can be put into DeFi tools.
They can be, you know, collateral. They can be, you know, collateral. They can be,
you know, there's lots of different things that they could be, or they could just be simply
retired. Like if there's nothing preventing, for example, you know, another region in Web3 from
having a fun gamified consumer facing program that-facing program that encourages your just average retail person or average consumer, if we want to call them that, which I never liked that term.
But either way, for them to be able to offset the estimated 20-plus tons of carbon that they produce per year and make it fun and entertaining and exciting and even irreverent.
You know, our goal is to provide the platform to provide you the assets and where you can trust
that the underlying impact of those assets is traceable and is, you know, doing what it says
it's doing. So that's our goal. And we're always looking for partnerships with folks who, you know, frankly, have superpowers
in different areas than us.
We're pretty good at working with the land stewards and bringing this impact into Web3
ecosystem.
But after that, we really are dependent on entrepreneurs and advocates to take these assets and turn them, you know, and provide audiences for,
you know, making this investment in a verified ecological repair.
That's perfect. That answers my question 100%. And I see a lot of synergy that we could
potentially have in the future. As you probably saw, we're building out a Solana-based carbon credit marketplace.
So we're always looking for quality,
verifiable assets like yours to put on that.
It's been tried before,
and we're going to take this one slow to do it right.
And I think if we can build a big enough group
of projects like yours and then other institutionalized more like brokerships,
I think we could really build a robust marketplace that could that could be kind of like the next big thing where anyone can come on and make a huge impact.
So I look forward to working with you in the future, man, and connecting and seeing how we can work together to build something really special.
And, yeah, I was sad I was late, but I'm really glad I got to jump up as a speaker and ask that question.
So really thankful for Jimmy for hosting this and everyone here today.
So let's grow.
Let's grow.
Let's grow.
Let's grow.
Zayan, I see your hand is up.
Zayan, I don't want to make sure I pronounce it correctly,
but please share your name so we all can honor your...
Yeah, are you listening to me?
Yes. uh when you're yeah yeah are you listening me yes jam jam guys hello good good evening everyone
i really appreciate yes i really appreciate this space uh well the one of my brother shame me this space I come earlier and then I like so
many of this place like what they have already seen before I saw a lot of
opportunities when now our project before like one two three one two three one one two three yeah
we shall allow this project and I have to go more place that we cannot think
will go so that is why I come this space we need to so many of these things like
this project trying to do and then there is one of the projects that
i saw they try to manipulate the people but it should just forget about the name of the project
but i want to really appreciate to show this project like you to, what did you call it?
I forgot what I wanted to say, but I really appreciate it with this.
James, James, guys, everyone, good day.
That's only what I want to say.
Wonderful. Well, thank you for joining us. I mean,
really a big shout to Jimmy and the 3Gen team, the Max Impact Spaces. I mean, really what I feel super strongly about, I feel like we've done as a community, we're getting better at the tech.
I think our vision is impeccable. I think our values are just special and made for this moment.
But our ability to convene and build culture, convene each other and build culture is a critical component to building a movement.
you know, a critical component to building a movement, right? And the other part, you know,
frankly, and I've shared this on other spaces, is really bringing astute product development,
right? You know, at the end of the day, all of our projects are competing for people's attention
as much as their money. And, you know, we need to, you know, take lessons from kind of the
degenerative economy that's really specialized
in getting your attention and your eyeballs and your clicks.
And while not repeating the worst of that kind of behavioral pattern, but really inspiring
new ways of interacting with each other and rewarding and incentivizing kind of this new
ecological wealth driven economy versus a degenerative economy.
So, you know, you're part of that.
Thank you from calling in from wherever you did.
And, you know, I think we have a lot of work to do, but doing it together makes, you know, many hands make light work, as they say.
Great.
Malpa, I saw you had your hand up. I just wanted to honor if you're wanting to share anything.
Please feel free to hop up on or unmute yourself and share.
Otherwise, I can elaborate a little bit more on some of the work coming down the pipeline with Regen.
But Malpa, please go ahead.
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I'm sorry.
What was your question?
I missed it.
My apologies.
I was just commenting.
Mine was just a big respect to you guys.
Yeah. Well, hey, we love,
we just love being exposed
to new members, you know,
out there. It's like we're
a thousand points of light together, right?
And, you know, I'm looking
to folks like Jimmy and his team to help
really kind of make that
light and that fire grow bigger,
you know, in the best way to inspire
the next generation of technologists and economists and repair advocates to kind of be able to
have a shared way of working together, right?
We need to organize deeply in order to kind of turn back the tide here.
I did want to like touch in on one other thing.
I know this was something Jimmy was interested in touching on, and I know he's just got some technical things that he's sorting out, so I'm going to pick this up.
But it's really around the issue of biodiversity credits or biodiversity units.
And so for those of you who are familiar, I mean, the carbon markets have been the dominant actor in what we call climate finance for quite some time. There are compliance markets that are,
you know, in the billions of dollars. There's voluntary carbon markets, which are in the
billions of dollars. And there's a number of drivers being, you know, from the regulatory
perspective, the United Nations on down to national and regional governments
that are essentially understanding that unless we measure and set goals around ecological health,
that we have a fundamentally existential threat to day-to-day living, to our businesses, to our civil society, to our food supply. And so rapidly and with some
urgency, you know, we're starting to see anyone from financial institutions to governments
suggest and implement compliance drivers and regulatory drivers that corporations are quickly reorienting around.
And one of the areas that this is supporting the growth of is biodiversity markets or nature markets.
And, you know, Regen has staked out an early position in developing both the software stack and the governance tools and the processes and the methodologies
to help land stewards make their approach to building biodiversity health legible and to
make it investable. And so we've worked with some really exciting early pioneers, anyone from we work with the Achuar Nation down in the Amazon headwaters, a nation that stewards for many, many years now lands that are many called the lungs of the earth. And, you know, there's a really interesting story, which has been played out over and over, over again of indigenous communities, um, being, uh,
that indigenous communities, um, who are in need of things like things that we take for granted, like, you know, basic health care and educational opportunities.
They, you know, they have their own cultural needs and they're, you know, dependent and stewards of forests and ecosystems that are valuable to the entire world. And it's been difficult to develop the right relationship
that honors the sovereignty of these communities as their own nations,
that honors their cultural priorities and values,
and also ensures that incentives and values are aligned around shared goals
of protecting standing forests
and major species like jaguars and spectacled bears and other important species that we
in the global north often kind of idolize as like major players in ecosystems.
And so, you know, Regen's been working hard sitting in community
with indigenous communities, sitting in circle, developing methodologies that honor these cultural
values and goals of these communities, while being able to open up the investment avenues from Global North Capital
so that it is not some new form of colonization, but that it is putting people at the table as
peers and equals in a shared mission. And so, you know, it sounds ideal, but ideal is becoming reality. And this has allowed us to develop credits.
We call one of our earliest pioneering credits is the biocultural jaguar credit that sold out, which brought in $70,000 for the Shadamensa community in the Amazon headwaters.
And we're looking to expand quickly across millions of hectares in the
global south. And this same process and protocol and how we approach this can be applied really
anywhere in the world, right, where the whole concept of honoring the land steward's needs
and making it possible to design processes and products that embed these values and create a better relationship between Global North Capital and Global South ecological stewards is really one of the most important issues of our time.
And how to design those relationships and make them highly fruitful and positive for all parties at
the table. So, you know, I wanted to flag that in particular, that particular credit, the
Biocultural Jaguar credit with the Xadomenza community. And we're also working with land
stewards like ERA Brazil, who is working on the ground with land stewards and the Tarasos team in Colombia
that is scaling habitat banks
and related Tarasos biodiversity units.
And what we're finding, just to be transparent,
is that this market is still early,
like where we are, I think, have done a good job
at organizing the supply and trying to avoid
some of the problems that the carbon markets have had.
But the standards around biodiversity markets are still being formed.
And a lot of the major corporations are still waiting on the sidelines trying to understand where and how to invest. And that is a very live wire for us in Regen Network and trying to continue to provide the best in class
biodiversity credits to a discerning audience of capital that is clearly eager to engage these new
markets, but still finding their way. So that's an exciting space for us. I want to make sure you
all were aware of it. It continues to be an important part
of our journey, you know, being able to integrate Web3 tools, but also, you know, just being as
close to the ground as possible and making sure that we don't drink our own Kool-Aid too much,
right, that we actually are developing products and tools that can be used by a steward in the Amazon,
as well as it could be used by a farmer in Britain.
So that is an exciting and challenging year for us as a company.
Can you hear me from this phone?
Yes, you're good.
We can hear you from this phone.
We made it.
Oh, my gosh.
I've literally tried refresh.
This has never happened
to me where I like try to come up. I literally had to borrow someone's phone. Okay. This is,
okay. This is amazing. I love this. It's, it's so phenomenal that you're building this with
those indigenous communities and really building solutions that, that people need and that are,
that are going to lift everyone up and are really a partnership from the ground up. And I love this approach.
You're clearly crushing it in the biodiversity aspect.
And, and I'm so grateful that,
that other people here are discovering this friends.
You got to learn more about region network.
I planted something up in the top coin.region.network.
So you can learn more about the token and everything that they're up to.
But, you know, yeah, like you said, carbon has been like the biggest established market in the regeneration kind of space and biodiversity is becoming more of a thing.
I think the carbon neutral kind of approach did drive a lot of company adoption, pledging that.
And as as Microsoft and Google grow,
they're gonna need more and more carbon credits.
Like biodiversity neutral isn't exactly the same thing.
Like how do you think we can make biodiversity
just as valuable as carbon in these markets?
Because ultimately it's arguably even more impactful
or it's at least equally impactful as to have this more holistic
approach of all these different things? Yeah, it's a good question. You know, what we're seeing,
you know, we're trying to, the market understands that in some ways reducing ecological repair to a molecule called carbon is both required in some ways, but also very limiting.
And so what biodiversity units or credits, I think, offer is that particularly right now,
and this, I think, is still a little brutish, you know, like a little kind of wonky,
but we're starting to see people stapling the credits together that in some ways pairing
them could be because biodiversity offers a more holistic ecological ecosystem-based approach to
repair and regeneration, while carbon, you know, is frankly the product of choice of, you know, regulatory bodies and institutions as a baseline unit that we all
understand we need to reduce the carbon dioxide and sequester carbon, you know, through nature
and other means. But often it's the reduction down to that particular carbon dioxide unit can be done, frankly, without the taking and keeping in
mind the health of the entire ecosystem, the health of animals, the health of even the
humans doing the work.
And so I think, you know, what we'll see, and I think this will just be a transition
space, is that biodiversity plus carbon units together packaged up
and beautiful little units are going to be a transitionary product approach that
will give both the corporations the ability to authentically tell a story of
holistic ecological repair while satisfying compliance requirements from regulatory bodies and
institutions who are mandating, you know, net zero or carbon neutrality, you know, and because
we're hearing things like biodiversity net gain and even bodies in Australia and the United Kingdom
or European Union are coming out with pretty specific requirements around putting biodiversity, you know, in some ways building a holistic, the holistic units of ecological regeneration are right at our fingertips.
And, you know, everything moves slower than you think.
But I feel like our respective crew here in Web3 continues to be on the bleeding edge of that.
100%. Love to hear it. Love to hear it. Time Ed grow ahead buddy.
Yeah, I was just, you know, in thinking just while first know about like the azos.finance stablecoin that's coming? And how would you see the ability to link something like that to help expand the reduction of carbon credits in the process of actually regenerative infrastructure?
It's a great question. We actually are signing an MOU, I think today with ASOS to, you know, a commitment for bringing over our natural tokenized, stablecoins, honestly, have largely been the primary,
probably one of the most valuable use cases of Web3 cryptocurrency at the moment.
But most are still, most at least at the larger level,
UST and other USDC and whatnot,
are still, we're finding still not programmatically
integrating ecological regeneration. And so we're in discussions on that front, as well as
participating in, as you point out with ASOS, in the development of stablecoins that are backed by
real world assets and ecological repairs. So feeling pretty bullish on that side of things.
I think we have a long way to go. You know, it's still the whole stablecoin concept still largely roots in
the U.S. dollar, you know, which in and of itself is quite degenerative. But we think it's an
important bridge into integrating ecological repair. Hey, Jimmy, I want to let you know,
I unfortunately have a hard stop here that
I've got to hop. So I want to do one, just to continue to express my appreciation for you and
the convening space and for this entire community here. You know, I would love to return back and
in jabber a bit more with you all and joust around some of these emerging issues, you know,
in the near future, if you'll, if you'll have me.
And I apologize.
We'll have you there.
Anytime.
Let's definitely make this happen.
So much more to dig into here,
but thank you so much for having, for coming.
And I'll let you go.
Just last, last thing.
If you could have something up on a billboard for a million people to see,
if you could share some wise words for the next generation or something you
like to have taught in schools,
what's that one message that you want people to have taught in schools? What's that one
message that you want people to know above everything else? Oh, that is a freaking great
question. Nature is a miracle. And I think when we see it as such, our desire to protect it and
care for it will be the same. Don't be wooed by the clickbait and the dings and the pings.
Get outside, put your hands in the soil,
and realize the miracle that we get to participate in a view every day
and protect it with ferocity.
Thank you, everybody.
Let's grow.
Thank you so much, Dave.
Appreciate you.
Some alpha that I'm going to share with you guys is that if you are holding the regen token, I'm not going to say which amount, but if you are holding it, then there's a pretty good chance that you're going to get a little TGN airdrop.
So there you grow.
A little TDN love.
A little TGN love.
If you're holding the regen token, we want you in the DAO.
If you're holding the regen token, we want you in the DAO.
And yeah, those people who have been holding the regen token definitely deserve some extra love.
So we really appreciate everyone in this regen community for pushing through all the challenges that have come your way and for still working towards this goal of a regenerative future that we all want to live in.
So thank you.
Thank you, everyone.
Time Med, you got your hand up?
Yeah, I was curious about, you know, do you have any understanding about how upcycling can possibly, you know, add to that as well?
Do you know what upcycling is?
Oh, yeah, of course I know about upcycling, repurposing products to reuse them.
Correct.
And, yeah, well.
I mean, because I do that with clothing.
Oh, you're doing that?
Yeah, I do it with silver clothing.
I mean, I've been doing it for – so I'm just curious about how to attach that in general.
Yo, hit me up, man.
Hit me up.
Tree Gens has been brewing some merch in the
background as well, which could fund trees. But if we can make it from upcycled materials,
would absolutely love to do that. So time it. My telegram is the same as Tree Gens. So it's
at the Tree Gens. That's at the Tree Gens. Okay. So hit me up and let's talk about some
grow laborations. Thank you so much for coming through. Uh, B region. I love you
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Okay. Thank you everyone for coming through. Until next time, keep doing what you love,
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