$ME, $PENGU, Kabbal, STK, DMCA on Apechain & more| Grateful Show #325

Recorded: Dec. 10, 2024 Duration: 2:42:13
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We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
If I ever get to get it, I'm sorry.
Tell me who in here can relate.
If I fuck this model and she just bleached her asshole and I can bleach on my t-shirt, I'ma feel like an asshole.
I was tired when I met her.
Oh, my God.
These lyrics, guys.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I don't even want to talk about it.
I don't even want to talk about it.
I don't even want to say nothing.
Everybody going to say something.
I'll be worried if they say nothing.
Remind me where I know you're from.
She looking like she owe you something.
You know just what we want.
I want to wake up with you and I.
Give us some morning, man.
Nothing in the morning.
Beautiful morning.
Yeah, the sun in my morning, baby.
Nothing in the morning.
I just want to feel liberated, I know.
I just want to feel liberated, I know.
If I'm instigated, I'm sorry.
Tell me who in here to relate, I know.
GM, GM, guys.
We still have two more minutes of intro.
Drop a GM in the comments.
Retweet a space.
Share how did you enjoy the Magic Eden claim or airdrop or a claim probably, right?
And we have amazing topics that we're going to talk about today.
We're definitely going to be talking about the drop.
Also, there was DMCA on Ape Chain with Apes on Ape.
A lot of chat on my timeline.
And then we have two amazing guests.
Happy from Kabal and Aaron from STK.
Let's go, guys.
He doesn't need his name up in lights.
He just wants to be heard.
Whether it's the beat of the mic, he feels so unlike everybody else alone.
In spite of the fact that some people still think that they know him.
But fuck him, he knows the code.
It's not about the salary.
It's all about reality and making some noise.
Making a story.
Making sure his click stays up.
That means when he puts it down, tax picking it up.
What the hell is it anyway?
He never really talks much.
Never concerned his status, but still even him starstruck.
Humble through opportunities given despite the fact.
That many misjudge him because he makes a living from writing raps.
Put it together himself.
Got a picture connects.
Never asking for someone's help.
But to give some respect.
He's only focused on what he wrote.
His will is beyond reach.
And now what all unfolds is skill of an artist.
This is 20% skill.
Be 100% clear.
Because Ryu is ill.
Who would have thought he'd be the one that set the rest in flames?
Then I heard him wreck it with the crystal method.
Name of the game.
Came back.
Dropped mega death.
Took him to church.
I like bleach, man.
Ryu had the stupidest verses.
Dude, it's the truth.
Now everybody giving them guest spots.
And stocks through the roof.
I heard him fucking with death stock.
This is 10% luck.
20% skill.
15% concentrated power of will.
5% pleasure.
And 100% reason to remember the name.
They call him Ryu is sick.
And he's spitting fire.
And Mike got him out the dryer.
Found him in Fort Minor with top.
But a fucking nihilist porcupine.
He's a prick.
He's a cop.
The type women want to be with them rappers.
Hoping to get shot.
Eight years in the making.
Patiently waiting to blow.
Now the record with Shinoda's taking over the globe.
He's got a partner in crime.
This shit is equally dope.
You won't believe the kind of shit that comes out of this kid's throat.
He's not your everyday on the block.
He knows how to work with what he's got.
Making his way to the top.
He often gets a comment on his name.
People keep asking him, was it?
Given that brother doesn't stand for an act for him.
He's living proof.
Let him rock in the booth.
He'll get you buzz and quicker than a shot of vodka with juice.
Him in this cool unknown around.
It's one of the best.
Dedicated to what they do and get a hundred percent.
Forget like nobody really knows how or why he works so hard.
What a crazy day, guys.
I pinned two tweets at the top.
One crazy announcement from 9DCC, actually,
that there's going to be 2,750 black boxes
and there's going to be one winner of Punk.
Absolutely insane.
And Microsoft shareholders voted against Bitcoin investment proposal.
So crazy, crazy day in Web3 space.
But this is great for show 325.
GMGM, everybody.
Today, it was a magic Eden day.
Such a crazy, crazy claim.
Damn, I hear myself twice, guys.
Do you also hear me twice?
What's going on in this space?
Beast was kicked out of the space before.
What's happening today?
I can hear you very well, actually.
So I can hear you just once.
Yeah, I hear you perfectly.
So all good.
It's all in your head.
It's all in your head.
I'm grateful.
Yeah, man.
I also saw the magic Eden claim twice.
So that's probably what happened.
It might be too much coffee again
and too much matchas, as you always do.
Yeah, I got just five coffees and two teas today.
So I'm on low side of caffeine.
But where to start, guys?
How are you doing?
That's probably the best start.
How is it going for you today, man?
I mean, it feels good, right?
It's always nice to have a day where, you know,
these magic internet money are kind of like printed
and spread it between the community.
So, I mean, I feel good.
I've heard a lot of expectations about, like, people expecting more.
I think for me, I expected lower price than this one with Magic Eden.
So I'm happy.
Yeah, I love it, man.
I also didn't expect that it will hold that well for some time.
We definitely got to get there.
Tino, how is it going with you, man?
Magic internet money makes each of us happy all the time.
So perfect.
And also super excited about today's show.
I couldn't join the last two ones.
So I'm really...
I was missing this, you know.
It feels weird that it messes up with my days
because when I miss the show on Tuesday,
the next day I'm like,
oh, is the show today or not?
You know, and it's Wednesday
and you're like completely...
You have no idea.
So I'm really glad I'm back
and it has been really good for me.
Apart from I just ate super spicy Indian food.
So my mouth is burning.
It's very funny because my wife,
she's a big fan of Ayurveda and Indian food
and there is a new Indian place in Prague
and she ordered something that was supposed to be
like very decent food
with not that much taste usually.
Like I usually put a lot of salt into it
because it doesn't taste much.
And she tried it
and it was like completely, completely chilly.
And I'm like, ah, come on.
It cannot be that bad.
So I started eating
and I almost burned.
I seriously was...
I had like three spoons
and my mouth is still burning.
So apart from that, I'm really good.
And how about you, Grateful?
How are you?
I'm really good, man.
It was a busy day
and not with the claiming,
but a lot of stuff was happening, man.
And I listened to Coffee with Captain
about the DMCA,
which is really interesting.
And I think that's...
I think a lot of creators
actually should learn
and try to understand how IP works
and when they're creating their collections
on Ape Chain or other chains.
I think you can do a lot of good stuff
to actually prevent these DMCA actions
because like with Apes on Ape,
I got to get there.
It was kind of obvious, I think,
because it was, you know,
you can't change just traits, right?
Like a lot of people,
a lot of people mentioned on Timeline,
like it's not one-to-one copycat.
You know, we changed the traits,
but it's same stuff.
Like imagine you take Spider-Man
and Captain America, for example,
and you mix the traits
and you'd be like,
hey, I'm cool.
You're not going to sue me.
It's not going to work like that, right?
So I think this was really obvious.
I think it was a lesson for a lot of people.
Communities, of course,
pissed that it took two months,
but actually Blue talked about it
in Coffee with Captain
that, you know,
there is a whole process
how to fill this DMCA
and after Ryder rips,
you know, they really put effort into it
and you can just DM,
or I think you can,
but you don't want to DM just Magic Eden
and be like,
hey, take them down, right?
Like you need to collect evidence.
You need to go through the whole process.
There's a third party,
like the law firm
or, you know,
who's taking care of that.
So it's not that straightforward
how everyone thinks about it.
So I understand it took some time
and I think it sucks for the community.
I understand,
but I think it's a good example, right?
Like you don't want to rip off.
You don't want to,
I'm not a huge fan of these rip offs
like when you basically
just change the background color
and mix the traits.
I'm a fan of derivative projects, right?
Which is something different
than just copy pasting the traits.
So what do you think about it?
I think that was one of the first
actually Ape chain collection
that was taken down.
I know that there was a collection
Pajis on Ape or something like that.
It's so obvious.
Yeah, I agree with you
because we've been around
building around IP for a long time.
I have worked with like licensing
and with brands
and this is obvious, right?
So you cannot
and we wouldn't like to be copied either.
I don't want my mutant
to be anywhere on any products.
And so I think it's about an example
and I think it's right thing to do,
to be honest.
And I remember though
during the bull market 21, 22
that there were some collections
taken down
just because there was a logo
of, I don't know,
I think Santa Cruz Skateboards.
It was used for that collection
and they took it down just for that.
The entire collection of 10,000 pieces,
they took it completely down
just because of that logo.
But I think that's a little bit too much.
But at the same time,
like it's on blockchain
and you cannot just take one piece.
You basically have to
have to take everything down.
And I really feel that
there needs to be some borders.
If also us want to create,
build our brands with our IP,
we also have to follow some rules.
We also are.
Of course, it's a lot of experimenting,
but at the same time,
we do obey the rules.
So I guess it's the right thing to do.
Yeah, I think, you know,
like it sucks for the holders
of the apes, right?
On Ape Chain.
But I don't think there is other way
than the one that Yuga did.
Because imagine if there's gonna be
the other collection in the future
or more collections in the future
who will just use the trades
of the board apes
and they will drop it
and Yuga will just, you know,
like then Yuga will just let it know.
People will start copying our IP.
So I don't think there is actually
other way than the one that Yuga did.
And I think it was,
wasn't it obvious
since the very beginning?
A hundred percent.
It was so obvious.
It was just a matter of time,
especially when you drop this
on Ape Chain, right?
Like the, I don't want to say Yuga Chain,
but Chain for Ape.
So I think it was obvious.
I have a tweet from Rahim here.
Also, there was a,
there was a lot of talks about,
like, it's on blockchain.
So of course it's gonna be,
it's gonna be there forever.
But it doesn't mean that
if you mint NFTs
or if you put something on blockchain
that you don't need to follow law, right?
IP is really precious thing.
Yuga and any other brand,
like Pagi Penguins,
Azukis, et cetera,
they spent such a huge amount of money
to build that brand,
to protect that brand, right?
So I think it makes a hundred percent sense.
They were saying that,
the previous owners
or founders of the projects,
they gave it to the community, right?
But it still doesn't matter, right?
It still doesn't matter.
If you give the project to the community,
it doesn't matter.
If it, you know,
go against the IP
that someone has,
it doesn't matter.
And Raheem tweeted,
you don't own copyright to apes.
Yuga grants apes licenses
to do stuff with their IP.
That still has rules.
Magic Eden didn't promote it.
Being on the open markets
is different than promoting it.
And Magic Eden is marketplace, right?
it's questionable
if they should,
care more about
if the collection is ripoff or not.
that's definitely the thing.
But they are the marketplace.
They want to make money, right?
So if something is verified there,
I don't think it means
that it's proved by Yuga, right?
So that's another thing.
It could be tricky
because there were diamonds on it, right?
It was probably
a verified collection there.
I think it's,
that's the lesson.
American Ape,
he also tweeted that
it was so obvious
since day one.
And you guys,
we had one of the first spaces
with American Ape, right?
He's huge in IP
and he also has to protect his.
a little drama on Ape chain,
but I think for long term,
it's good for everyone.
and we got to be talking with Aaron
about their drop,
what they are doing with STK
and that has really,
really nice and interesting art.
I think that's,
that's the way
how to approach it.
what you think, guys?
And I think one,
I also feel very sorry
for the holders.
Some people were holding
quite a lot,
a big bag.
At the same time,
we have to,
like all of us have to say
the Apes on Apes,
it's a speculation.
Punks on Apes,
it's just a speculation,
since the very beginning,
you must know
that you are getting
into something that,
of course,
it might get big,
but you're not,
I think it's pretty obvious
that it's just a kind of
D-gem play anyway.
So I guess,
I hope that,
that everybody's fine with that
and nobody lost
any like a huge,
life-changing sum of money.
Jacopo has interesting
question actually.
Why are Jimmy's still there?
And I don't want to
thought any bags there.
I know Rita actually
had some talks with that,
but I think Jimmy is also
you guys IP,
I'm always really scared
because from 2021,
we experience everything
like collections mooning,
And then going to zero
because of these,
et cetera.
So I'm really scared always
and I don't put much money
into these because,
there's a risk,
There's a,
there's a risk in this involved.
we have so much PTSD
from the last bull market.
It's so crazy.
Every day,
basically when we chat
with Grateful and Beast,
we're like,
remember this?
Oh my God.
it's giving us
We remember too much.
It's like,
now when you said it,
I remember,
I was deciding between
getting a Doodle
and a Jungle Freak.
They both were at one ETH
at that time,
And it was a lot of money
and I'm like,
I wanted Doodle
since day one.
I couldn't mean
So I did buy
instead of Jungle Freaks
because I also like the IP.
And next day,
Jungle Freaks
had some kind of also,
I think they have
something with
like racism and stuff
and they went basically
to zero next day.
So I would lose a lot.
So that's also,
these kind of stories,
it's so crazy
what's still in our heads
and all these skeletons
that we are carrying
with ourselves.
it's freaking me out sometimes.
Do you guys remember
those little apes
and little mutants?
They actually pumped
like the golden ones
went to like
over one ETH,
straight up to the drop.
That's absolutely crazy.
share with us in the comments
if you know
about any collections
like that from the past.
If you still remember
we are still not getting
to the mania,
To the craziness
I believe we're gonna get there.
But talking about drama
on Ape Chain,
I also see
Mutant Monkeys
I just saw that
before the space
so I just checked
and it seems
they sent a contract
and Dim was like,
I don't know
why you're sending
that to me.
I have nothing
to do with that
and he sent it back.
So there was
another thing.
I also believe
is planning
those Shadow Apes,
the clones
of our ETH
We talked about it
like two weeks ago
They'll be on Ape Chain
so I think
they also try
the Ape Chain
a little bit
but you cannot
get rid of it,
You can just
from marketplaces.
I don't believe
the pictures
are on blockchain
but you know
the collection
is still there.
you cannot
so you can
and get it
taken down
from different
platforms,
It still exists
or another
were to really
and go to court
compel the collection
to change it
to a blank screen
to send everything
well you can't
send holder stuff
to a burn wallet
but you can change
you can change
the images
unless the
contract is
which I don't
think a lot
of people do
at this point.
Great point
great point
and by the way
how are you
doing today?
How is the
Magic Eden
day treating you?
the Magic Eden
drop was honestly
so confusing
looking over it
and I had like
I didn't have
I had like
Magic Eden
and I was like
alright well
I don't care
Magic Eden
day is going
but it's funny
because what I'm
doing right now
MM walk down
we're actually
going through
generation
just to review
the traits
because one
sometimes you
don't realize
the two traits
actually don't
go together
so you have
oh actually
these can't
go together
because they
come on top
of each other
do you remember
that collection
I can't remember
what it was
but it was
something with
and there was
the ones that
and it was
it was like
and there was
a crying girl
with duct tape
and a black eye
and it was just
and everybody
Misfit University
Misfit University
and people
rightfully
flipped out
you just have
to look through
the collection
to make sure
that there
things that
that you're
we're literally
going through
trades right
now because
you're talking
trade mixings
yeah I can
imagine man
when you mix
trades like
Misfit Uni
I don't know
guys give me
a thumbs up
or down if
you remember
that collection
there was a
hype before
there was a
hype before
revealed I
crying and
he had his
there was a
there was a
big trouble
for profit
repeat that
once again
think it's
there were
traits like
you revealed
he's talking
hanging out
University
minting bro
crazy videos
like revealing
collections
were insane
like weird
people from
Russia that
collection
aren't you
thinking of
from Russia
the rumors
they pretended
to be like
these empowered
women creators
almost gonna
a collection
of African
characters
and pretend
were African
is a bunch
of Russian
didn't Archick
that people
a collection
that's hardly
a derivative
stop buying
collections
right like
or if you're
gonna buy it
you have to
realize that
there is a
good chance
know you're
you're gonna
lose everything
don't don't
collections
right like
you don't you
don't have a
right just
because you
I mean you
it but what
may not be
able to do
anything with
it so look
for artists
know their
um there's
there's hardly
derivative
collections
collections
held value
there's an
mean do you
remember like
derivatives
derivatives
and everything
they're kind
people are
even heard
the argument
people being
good thing
because it's
people that
can't afford
own collection
maybe just
flip up to
or something
else I mean
you know look
a lot of us
were lucky
be able to
I wouldn't
even be able
have bought
like a ton
derivatives but
it you know
punks were
around before
apes established
themselves other
communities did
too so find
the thing like
I would say
right now like
favorite collections
I mean G's
is a fresh
take I mean
certainly there's
yacht club love
there right but
it's right as
fresh take
one of the
top collections
and that's a
collection where
if you hold
right it's
think that
going to be
collection
love that's
original that
has a good
that project
yeah I mean
that was such
a great point
G's are an
amazing example
makes me so
happy when
some people
example in
my community
probably got
the allowless
some of our
giveaways and
I see them
now rocking
were trying
more closer
to the ape
community for
a while but
of course it's
out of reach
for them at
that point and
and they are
now rocking
somehow like
extended family
because of
the guys who
are running
it or they
are coming
they are us
you know so
this is such
a great point
and it makes
really happy
actually he
platform so
already can
think there's
that you can
download with
you can do
different poses
there's gonna
be animation
there's also
the utility
right away
after minting
enjoy that
right that
collection
like rip-offs
right they
right like
effort stuff
I'm really
happy that
projects that
are building
something so
can't wait
to interrupt
groups where
people are
confused and
they're like
there's like
penguins on
Apes is that
know pudgy
penguins like
that you know
for a lot of
us we're like
ah we've been
through this we
know that it's
it's just a
fake collection but
there are a lot
of people who
are you know
just coming in
the last year
maybe two years
actually don't
seen a lot
of I've seen
questions in
groups like
oh is this
is this from
the legitimate
project and
so you know
for us we're
just like well
of course it's
fake but a
lot of people
don't know
great point
that's the
way where it
can damage
right basically
what happened
because people
bought into
the collection
that is kind
money because
I believe the
floor went
check that
else could
great point
I don't know
if marketplaces
can police
that right
believe they
made a lot
definitely not
a good look
for ape chain
and I think
it's gonna
happen more
collections
but I know
there were
how you doing
what's good
I'm a little
I'm almost
I was driving
amazing time
at Art Basel
connected with
some Basel
provocative
and a half
falling asleep
that I had
to pull over
when I went
off the gas
and take a
6 something
this morning
to continue
the prices
have dropped
it's being
listed on a lot
just gonna
and continue
and see where
from there
I'm playing
see Ernest
the audience
backgrounds
I actually
bookmarked
people are
chatter about
new people
are onboarding
very little
chatter about
extra swag
direct brand
and drinks
were everywhere
goaded meme
rock radio
throws the best
parties in
did you see
experience the
I experienced
but I also
private gatherings
founder was
being shown
during the
inscribing
inscriptions
and ordinals
actually had
figure art
painted that
late teens
friends with
and so they
did all this
research and
everything
going to be
fractionalized
conversations
was loving
we're going
some high-end
because people
want to see
things live
fractionalized
of high-end
so bullish
conversations
definitely
definitely
get a chance
radio event
actually go
horror stories
from people
about waiting
forever for
the parties
of different
communities
magic eating
some crazy
stuff happened
there you know
I'm pretty sure
you all saw
certain founder
certain project
yeah I was
boring yacht
supporting
you wearing
apparently
commissions
putting up
consulting
commission
Winchell's
characters
approached
consulting
collection
decomposition
generation
characters
Winchell's
collection
collection
establishing
establishing
guaranteed
everything
collection
collection
partnerships
communities
collaborations
reminiscent
approached
derivative
approached
collection
collections
collection
definitely
definitely
you posted
permission
established
established
collection
collection
the numbers
very deliberate
last thing
gratefully
collection
collections
well-funded
aquamarine
background
looking at
everything
that makes
everything
characters
collection
it's a love
I'm a huge
collector of
superheroes
you'd have to
talk to John
pretty sure
inspiration
delegation
relatively
connecting
collection
collection
collection
beforehand
collection
interested
collections
everything
refreshing
derivative
derivative
collections
characters
especially
derivative
can't wait
collections
non-financial
to promote
or anything
the reality
collection
innovation
I'll be able to figure it out
blubber pass
I was sitting there
and in my head
I was looking at the clock
and I had the time wrong
and I'm looking at it
and then it was like
half an hour
until I realized
that it was my mint window
and it was like
you have like
five minutes
before this mint window
and I'm like
oh it's not a countdown
to be able to mint
it's a countdown
until I can't mint
I'm always
fucking up the blubber clock
but it's there for everybody
who's smart
to figure out
yeah I'll go to this court
right after the mint
and I'll be like
floor floor floor floor floor
do you remember that guys
the exclamation mark
it show you the floor price
and it was
it was insane
and what was the other ones
I don't know
but that's part of the history
rarity sniper
the rarity sniper
also right
crazy crazy time
but yeah man
really hyped for what you're doing guys
you also been around
for such a long time
I always love when you join us
it was great to meet you
that was fun man
that comedy show
that was crazy
great to finally meet you guys
by the way
I want to give a shout out
who one has been
just a fantastic partner
like I said
created board council
to help consult
web3 projects
we're pretty picky
but have enough confidence
in yourself
to contact us
if you think we can
we can help you
with your NFT project
but I want to give a big shout out
to him because
he just got
he just went through the first
five or six hour session
of getting that board ape
tattooed on his chest
five or six hours
and that's just the first session
he's got to go through
to get some of the darker colors
I was like
you're insane
no big deal
I block out pain
toughest man in the world
just here working on
working on SDK
working on his
his law firm
his accounting
and just getting
five hour tattoos
you're called beast
is a beast
background
here he is
he has the
background
need to put
you didn't
need to put
the background
there's no
there's no
half-assing
when it comes to
five hours
tattoo artist
the comments
the updated
healing up
pretty nice
gonna square
the orange
background
the orange
most painful
everything else
was pretty
going into
background
is probably
the orange
background
background
did he buy
or he bought
but it was
good for him
he's a good
quickly want
if you are
that Aaron
ETH wallet
I've seen a lot
of people say
chain wallet
chain wallet
is the same
ETH wallet
sorry I got
worry about
finding your
they don't
numbers and
letters and
everything
the message
sure if it
was probably
was streaming
showed the
seed phrase
was staged
drained me
and that's
the lesson
like never
seed phrase
your gmail
don't take
very careful
because with
market heating
up there's
gonna be more
don't want
everything
that you've
been working
to you know
protect your
assets because
it always sucks
to see that
on the timeline
really worried
about magic
claim because
man it was
so complicated
that I see
opportunities
for scammers
right with
the qr code
one of the
reasons why
like fully
I wouldn't
have enough
to have done
anything anyway
showbiz actually
and it had
phrase tattooed
cover those
you tattoo
before you
I'm paying
there first
shared him
Aaron what
can't wait
art because
definitely
really enjoyed
can't wait
talking about
about that
interesting
that's what
background
like a lot
were complaining
like there
were a few
things that
downloading
sure about
Magic Eden
what do you
think about
their numbers
basically had
soul there
to collect
here's what
gratefully
gratefully
actually does
launcher coin
and they do
and they reward
people for
their actual
like usage
of OpenSea
just farming
that I think
can gain back
market share
that's how
bad I think
the Magic Eden
was a thing
especially with
like officially
you need to
travel across
the border
to claim it
I took a train
called VPN
into a different
and had to
a little bit
you mentioned
I can't wait
because we
we actually
have a few
definitely
be talking
quickly find
I bookmark
there's another
it's gonna
interesting
holding my
eight heavy
were grinding
you deserve
this cleaning
you worked
sure if it's
proper English
sure if it's
proper English
we're cancelled
you were so
sure if this
but you're
enjoyed the
I actually
to be honest
getting token
should get
it probably
you actually
your ticket
you should
everything
and Solana
eventually
especially
everything
immediately
interesting
everything
experience
absolutely
interesting
interesting
interesting
collection
absolutely
reputation
reputation
reputation
understand
innovative
absolutely
absolutely
interesting
collections
collections
interesting
everywhere
everything
completely
verification
completely
impossible
completely
impossible
collections
interesting
communities
understood
distributed
communities
and that's
interesting
everything
other side
if you want
for grateful
you definitely
definitely
collection
or something
podcasters
securities
everything
hospitality
interesting
definitely
conversation
unfortunate
experience
airdropping
extracting
collection
definitely
definitely
unrealized
three years
considering
conviction
conviction
co-founder
beneficial
monetizing
concretely
influencer
influencers
influencers
interested
coordinate
individually
influencers
especially
influencers
outputting
proposition
collaborate
efficiently
incredible
monetizing
I probably
approached
reputation
definitely
verification
background
verification
verification
experience
bootstrapping
considering
constraints
especially
permissionlessly
everything
connection
connecting
competition
for example
supercharged
competition
considered
competition
streamlined
relentlessly
collaborate
proposition
know about
interesting
influencers
everything
influencers
influencers
followings
followings
influencer
permissionlessly
still hear
definitely
stacked on
the pipeline
maybe even
we'll have
everyone in
really high
very excited
that we're
translation
how people
don't even
that's also
are launching
people join
are creators
with other
like twitter
might know
and create
your profile
very seamless
takes only
you'll have
your profile
created on
the platform
it you know
in a couple
you'll already
login access
there it's
already set
then you'll
be able to
participate in
if you are
selected as
we'll have
you know a
selection process
of the best
profiles on the
platform which
will be the by
default list
of users who
can create
content for
our clients
clients can
also choose
independently
you're not
have campaigns
and that you
can participate
in so it's a
very seamless
process and
for projects
on the flip
well I had a
practical case
where you know
actually reached
discord and
are you also
onboarding
this afternoon
and they're
integrating our
beta launch
as a launch
so it's very
simple if you're
just you know
twitter go
discord open
we're easily
accessible
beast could
yeah thanks
guys appreciate
that's a value
to the audience
as well because
I don't want
to you know
like endlessly
blurb about
my platform
and be like
yeah it's so
cool like I
really hope
it's you know
interesting to
people in the
audience I
wanted to ask
aspect right
because for
example we
or I've been
using thank
ape works for
example if
you have if
you have spaces
ape coin or
projects or
if you you
coin right
there's some
dog barking
basically you
spaces you
submit the
they verify
season ends
right there
automated so
basically I
don't know I
would probably
other page
can collect
the badges
if you have
a badge you
will get for
example an
ape coin for
that so are
thinking about
something on
chain verification
anything like
we might we
use case and
we were trying
to solve it in
effective way
and we felt
being like
let's say on
chain with
mechanics would
be the fastest
way to serve
it because you
know otherwise
you have to
code smart
contracts and
with any smart
contract execution
there's gas fees
and so you got to
pick a chain
and you know
for us it was
easier to make
it in sort of
approach the
only on-chain
component for
now will be
the payments
which will be
done you know
through our
third-party
partner portal
pay so the
payment solution
from portal
if you remember
portal coin was
all over the
timeline a couple
months back
them it's the
same portal
yeah really
developed a
wallet for
gaming purposes
mostly and so
you can pay
with pretty much
compatible token
whatever products
you want to
pay you know
so let's say
you have a game
on arbitring
and you only
have mainnet
east to pay
for it you
can just use
portal pay to
pay for the
asset it's
pretty it's so
wild you know
how easy it is
actually with
crypto because
when you think
about it in the
traditional web
2 world like
you would work
with the people
that are from
all around the
world so you
would have
different bank
accounts right
and everyone
would have
international bank
accounts so
you would have
to use all
these like
iban just to
pay people and
you would probably
have like signed
agreements with
them and all
this stuff and
it would take
ages just to
pay everyone
and here you
just work with
like services
like portal and
content and you
can immediately
reward people for
the content right
so it's just it
fascinates me
hey man so
much on fees
it's crazy man
if you try to
send money to
us or somewhere
else man you
pay sometimes it
doesn't even make
sense to send the
money because the
fee is sometimes
you know almost
half of the
yeah i know
we don't deal
with these
problems like
when you're
sending like 50
thousand dollars
like you don't
care about you
dollar fee
beast right
are you sending
it's like so
complicated even
you know like
with different
these like tax
regimes like
within like eu
outside of eu
eu and all
this stuff i
mean yeah this
makes things so
much easier the
the blockchain
yeah it does
always you know
we think about
defy with like
complex protocols
farming and
but i mean
unlocking like
lendings like
example that's
huge right and
then just like
blockchain as a
payment infrastructure
is also huge and
we don't we don't
talk about it
enough but i think
we take it for
granted now right
that we can do it
actually yeah
right and i
think the most
mainstream ready
applications of
blockchain technology
is probably stable
coins and how you
can just like send
stable coins across
the world in the
click without even
spending a dime on
set on on fees
so yeah it's
it's exciting
yeah really cool
really cool
so can you
share with us
when you are
launching when
uh people can
uh you know
start using your
yeah so well
we'll be opening
most likely a
test campaign this
week you know
just because we're
opening our product
and we have to test
it in a real
environment so
we'll be launching
a campaign that is
you know internal
to cabal cabal
owned um you
know free just
like you know to
have some content
creators create some
content for us if
they so wish it does
not lead to any
benefit on the
platform or any
kind of like
priority you know
um priority
treatment towards
our cabal creator
program unless they
push out quality
content and in which
case you know we
might as well just
see them they will
be highlighted through
the content they
create on this
test campaign and
so we might as
well just you know
onboard them to our
program so that's
really the idea just
test a campaign
without payment see
how it goes if the
flows work perfectly
and we don't need a
lot of creators maybe
just you know five
people even would be
enough just to test
out the process and
you know it will
work because we've
already tested it
internally in a test
environment and then
next week that's when
the real deal starts
and we'll be opening up
our private beta to
select partners and
we'll be rolling out
the first campaigns
announcing the first
partners and um yeah
i think you're going
to be pretty excited
with um by by whom
with we're working
with and the and the
launch partners you
mean the first
clients the first
projects that the
creators can create
the content for okay
right right the first
the first clients um
you know it's we've
sequenced it this way
because it's a bit
risky for us in terms
of you know customer
service or like support
to just launch in
public right away
because if there's
anything that needs
improvement any
feedback that we think
is worth implementing
or just general like
onboarding experience
for our clients it's
probably better to just
spend a month with only
a few select partners
help them have a great
experience streamline the
platform if needed and
then open to the
public so that's why
we've defined it this
way and i think our
creators are going to be
happy with the
creation we did
yeah i like it because
there is like so many
projects and like even
like crypto companies
especially crypto
companies that you know
they have like a great
tech and a great skill
set of like building the
tech stuff but often
they struggle with
communicating stuff so
yeah i think you can
like seriously help
yeah exactly that's the
promise man like and the
cool thing is you know
there's two ways you can
approach influencer
marketing right you can
do ambassadors multi-month
ambassadors you know
really influential
profiles that are going to
be representing your
company for for a certain
while and that's
something you can do on
one-to-one basis with two
or three profiles right
it's easy enough to
manage now if you want to
work and create momentum
on the timeline you need
multiple touch points in
fact you might need
hundreds of them and so
collaborating with a
100 200 creator profiles
to create noise and
momentum for you on the
timeline that is really
hard to pull off with the
current means and so
using a platform like
cabal to do large-scale
influencer campaigns is
really a game changer for
marketing at large not
only for nfts but also
you know crypto and
everything because well
you can create momentum in
a few clicks so that's
the really exciting thing
do you have any rules what
projects can promote like
if they can also promote
like shit coins and stuff
like that or you have or
you don't care you are
just the platform yeah
that would be interesting
yeah it's a good question
it's not that we don't
care like we actually
really do care now it's a
matter of what can we
control and how much
should we control in order
to also allow for growth
because as a network
product we have to achieve
a certain you know size of
network meaning projects and
creators meeting on the
platform to really well
keep growing like it's
really really easy to
fumble a network product
because once you have one
side of the offer and
demand while leaving the
platform then you're
fucked right it's really
hard to reignite so we
don't want to like tighten
you know the the control
too much so it will be a
game of you know assessing
how the activity on the
platform is going if there's
any complaints and and
reacting fast like you've
seen pump.fun react fast
right with live stream it
went total bollocks so
yeah that that's your
responsibility as a
platform owner isn't
100 100 man oh my god
that stream i i forgot
about it that was crazy
yeah let's just forget
about it man beast was
like hey i'm launching new
stuff man can can can you
go into this cage a little
bit we do a little bit of
streaming man and i was
like man i'm not doing
that i'm not doing that i
don't like that uh so
beast i think you're you're
lucky that you didn't
didn't launch the token
i'm kidding guys i'm
kidding with the stream
you know me you know me
that i'm kidding but
happy i i really really
enjoy what you were
saying uh what's the
best way for people to
actually get in touch with
you is that a discord that
you mentioned is it the
dm uh what what what's
the best for you yeah if
you can dm on on twitter
i'm happy to chat if you
can't because for some
reason twitter doesn't
allow you i may have
different parameters for
different people um just
you know open a ticket on
discord or join the
discord and chat in the
general channel i'm always
there so happy to chat
with anyone who has
interest in our platform
we're we're only starting
we're building a community
and so i'm happy always to
meet new people love it
man great name by the way
uh loved i love the name
and also great background
like um it's incredible
it's it's a really amazing
art piece that your pfp so
thank you so much for
joining is there anything
else that you would love
to share with us about
cabal or anything
no i mean i i hope this was
of interest to the audience
here um and you know that i
that i provided value um if
you want to support in any
way you know create content
share the word about cabal
with a friend this goes a
long way because we're early
and um and that's about it and
i i thank you for your time
really amazing thank you so
much for joining guys uh
check it out i think it's
really interesting it's
launching soon it's a it's
a new thing so uh i'll
definitely check it out uh
to see how it goes and
good luck happy good luck
with the launch and uh hope
everything is going going
well thanks man i really
enjoyed this space i'm sorry
i don't wait um i had a
an emergency at work to uh
to cater to but um appreciate
you waiting for me and
having me here no worries
man thank you so much for
joining have a good one
have a great tuesday
thanks happy thank you for
joining us you too cheers
love it guys can't wait for
the launch it will be fun to
see that uh you know that
when we when we start in
2022 we always try to
support uh you know new
services new projects then
um everything you know to
push web3 forward so can't
wait to see that uh also i'm
getting a little backslash
for for my uh ip opinions
here you know uh we we
started with uh apes on
ape that they were delisted
from uh magic eden man i i
don't think it's that hard
right like you you just can't
copy uh traits and and do a
new collection i don't think
it's that complicated but
people still coming at me i'm
not a lawyer but um yeah we
talk a lot with american ape
and and other people in this
space that like come on like
i know i know uh people
probably got some money into
it but it's i think it's not
that that hard and if you
don't know like dm someone
from you guys that's okay i
don't know man um yeah i don't
want to even get back into it
but man what's happening
here maybe that's how you
create a the the viral content
right like
yeah i don't know i i mean
i'm i'm checking the ape
gang right but so i'm also
like wondering
but guys um i have a i have
few tweets ready here i i also
have uh even a few topics that
i would love to chat about
this one is really interesting
i fear for new and upcoming
nft projects the bar is
consistently being raised
legacy project projects are
constantly drowning out the
attention this makes it
difficult for newer projects
to build conviction uh without
any realistic proof of concept
or plans uh let me open the
tweet because it um it
continues what's the solution
to this i recommended uh newer
projects to build products that
are 100 complete prior to
launching an nft collection that
way you save the time trying to
convince investors to buy in
without having to rely on nfts
for speculation and i think this
is really interesting take right
because man if you look and we
talk about we talk about uh
pajis azuki's bayc man to build to
such a scale it's fucking crazy hard
now like it's it's been through the
you know spaces discord dms irl
events right like people really
connected through you know i can talk
about apes like we really got it like
we really connected through ape fest
for example we've met with so many
apes uh so many times and i think
i think it's it's it's really tough
to build something like bayc uh i i'm
really curious what will be the the
the winners of uh 2025 like from the
new projects who's gonna be that but
yeah tino i see you unmuted go ahead
and then i'll go through that just
just wanted to add one thing uh it was
so hard to uh to build for this project
uh up to such a scale yet there were
so many projects there were thousands
of projects who had the same starting
line sometimes even more money raised
sometimes even like more expensive
events and more cooler opinion leaders
paid etc and still didn't make it they
made it to zero uh and i think this is
this is like a really important topic to
discuss because also on ape chain people
are getting so much so many expectations
and we talked about it even today that
it's it's basically with like 5 000 or
10 000 even 20 000 uh dollars it's it's
not possible you know when somebody's
promising you we will be doing this kind
of cool project and this and this uh as
we were really used to hearing this um
the roadmaps back in 2021 and 22 uh i'm
really glad that it's not there now
because uh it was you know like you knew
that everybody would be promising you a
metaverse or a game or uh you name it
but it's still you know to to build
something long term i think it's much
easier for the projects to say oh it's
100 art project or just you know uh but
it's uh it's it's basically right now the
starting point uh and uh you see you see
with g's and we uh we uh my point there
is when you build cool shit just keep
building start with uh start with a
product as you already said and the
community forms much easier around an
existing product and when you just keep
delivering and shipping amazing stuff you
can expect when when you know the people
behind that and you know that rida has
been shipping uh that that the guys that
allo has been you know that they shipped
a lot of cool stuff into the community
so you know that if they are working on
something if there are 3d characters on
the other side but g's will probably be
one of the first ones because rida is on
top of the game etc etc so i think this is
also a great advice for people who don't
know like where where should i look what
should i what project should i uh join is
it is it something that that is going to
be uh deleted all of sudden or not and i
think uh we already mentioned several of
these projects and i think this is uh this
is a good direction to to look also the
history of the people that's what i wanted
to say i think especially on ape chain i
think um there is a shortcut right because
you can utilize the already formed
collection community right which is bayc
mutants and everyone in in yuga ecosystem
for for example right so even rida he's an
ape right uh and there are a lot of people
uh that uh have been in ape community the
same with monkeys right balu dim etc so i
think uh that's amazing for the projects when
they are dropping on a chain that they can
utilize the the bayc community because when
i actually minted bayc i don't think there
were that many communities like strong
communities right like we have doodles azuki's
pudgies chimpers apes etc etc right i know
there was a top shot community i think there
was a community that i v friends v friends
definitely definitely yeah yeah uh so i think
this is a shortcut a little bit and and that
can help you a lot because also people know
you right already that you mentioned rida
right i trust rida he he's been doing crazy
crazy stuff and talking about metaverse man
like is yuga the only one who actually kept
building dead who else actually who promised
metaverse i don't know man but i'll definitely
check it out after the show uh so it was
tough man it was it was definitely tough
because at one point the roadmap was the same
right the the token game and and metaverse
everyone tried to do it and not many not many
projects delivered so being part of the club
is amazing because we really uh gone uh like uh far far
away from uh what i even expected so can't wait and especially on thursday
man bubbles oh my god it's gonna be fun
uh let me quickly circle through the hands
showbiz uh you were the first one so go ahead man
hey grateful no i had my hands up earlier when you were talking about the ip
on ape chain um you know with the apes on apes right
and i know beast mentioned what about um ape gang
so if you ever been on the ape gang spaces um
redo will talk about you know he's been doing derivative art for apes
since he he was an og ape holder until he lost his ape but he's back in the club
since earlier this year with a mutant but he's had discussions with the yuga ip lawyers
before he even launched the base ape gang and ape gang on ape chain so
he's been in the background working to make sure that all the legalities are
hashed out so and he'll tell he'll come into space and tell you so
yeah definitely man he's he's one of those guys that
you know as a builder with the ape the ape closet and now the wardrobe
where you can do on-chain customization and it's updated to the metadata
so you know board kikis can put shades on
you know apes and they can change out to different designs and
different seasons and and different clothing and
hats and these different things so he's got plans for a lot of
like you know he's big into art fashion fashion and he's a photographer by trade
as well so this the guy's a builder man so
i've been rocking with him since he minted ape gang on base
and same thing with ape chain yeah that's great to know man i love it and
it's great to see that uh you know he checked with a with a
yuga lawyers so that's uh that's awesome that's great to hear that
yeah i'm just checking the the the collection i think that would be dope to
educate or or do episode about ip and what you can and can do because uh
you know a lot of new apes they might you know not be 100 sure because
back in the day there were a lot of discussions about using the logo right
um also i think you can't use you cannot use the the the three words
ape yak club right so we also renamed our club we were we were czech and slovak
ape yak club and and we changed the name because of course right
so there are there are a few basic things that you can do if you are
launching new collection uh to actually avoid because uh yeah like it doesn't mean
that we are in web three that we can we we still have to follow the rules right
like with ip and everything so yeah uh didn't know that showbiz thank you so
much for uh for sharing that oh yeah you're welcome
on a different note um shout out to machiavelli
who just got a orange background flip brim mafia ape you know saying
congratulations he's down in the audience
so you know i had to pick up let's go also it's a new member he just joined
the club he was a member in the club
and then you know you know hey you know things happen in life you know and
now he's back and he's with a new um announcement you know
community and events lead at um filter yeah
let's go man that's amazing love it uh if you haven't been to
join welcome apes tomorrow on wednesday uh that's a great space to actually
introduce yourself but if you if you were a member before you probably
already was uh were there right so uh love it love love all those community
spaces really can't wait for for bubbles on
thursday that's gonna be uh that's gonna be epic
gets big go ahead i see your hand too yo yo yeah yeah i wanted to pitch in on
what you were talking before because i think it's a super super important
topic on uh how the market has matured and we've
moved from investing the same thing happened in crypto you
know we moved from investing in just plain white papers
to then investing in dex to now actually investing
in projects that have mvps you know and that's something that happened to
us for example when we started we tried instead of extracting value for
from the actual web3 space we wanted to raise capital ourselves because we knew
we wanted to generate the trust before and we wanted to build something before
laying anything out on chain or asking for any sort of like mint in return and
stuff you know and um and i just wanted to comment on that
because as a creator as well and as a founder
i saw myself on that wall where it wasn't working anymore just by explaining
like all these good numbers and look at this and look how beautiful this is and
and look what i can do right they literally like not just
in the space but also in the web2 investment uh space it's kind of the
same you know it doesn't work like that anymore now you need something more solid
that has it's also going to benefit you like you were saying you know and tina
was saying like if we have an infrastructure already laid out
and you throw something out people know you're here long term because
you've already invested your time and money in building something you know
and that just lays down the the grounds for trust as well
and it's and i think it's beautiful because at the end of the day it's exactly
the same way startups work you know in in the normal world and we should
have that same application in in ours which is
okay initially it was mayhem it still happens occasionally and we have a lot of
like vision moves and stuff but mostly having this mature projects like
geez you know um launching and having we know they have an
aip that's been approved we know the amazing platform he's been building
it's like i love it because we've moved to a stage where people
actually spend their time uh researching who the founders are the
founders are mostly doxed in some of the cases
and and it just you know you know you're you're investing in
in a team more than just on a promise of a roadmap which is what i think is the
best change we could have and which is what makes me bullish on on
a chain as well because we have so much of that we have so many creators who
already have their platforms mvps running and stuff for so long
bootstrapping it and financing it themselves you know and then
ape chain comes and we can support them as well and give them a bit of that
financing which isn't much either because the meta is is very low and like
tina was saying we can't expect if a project raises 20k we can't expect them
to do amazing metaverse stuff you know like
when a when an eath when an eath collection minted it was
like 5 million 8 million 10 million revenue we're talking about a whole
different story but it but we can support them and with these smaller
mints maybe you can impose those teams to be able to gather capital from
somewhere else with the good metrics to then be able to deliver something you
know um so yeah i just wanted to comment on that because i think it's super
important for our space and um and i yeah i'd love to see it man you can you
can feel it in a chain so yeah hell yeah man hell yeah really bullish and we
are really just warming up guys right um i'm 100 sure and this is of course pure
speculation that yuga also has something uh for ape chain ready right they'll drop
something i mentioned that shadow bayc and mutants can't wait can't wait uh it's
gonna be it's gonna be banger and you know um uh too fat he also shared in the
comments that i forgot about it completely nifty islands metaverse is also dropping
the the island token so i forgot about it uh i'll have to i'll have to check it out
i know a lot of people actually played it and and uh created their island so that's
another one right so it's gonna be amazing end of 24 amazing start of 20 25 and uh i
also see maca valley on to your body blows like a 12 game shot beautiful orange background
come with me let's go hey thank you so much for the acknowledgement so biz thank you so much to
everybody up here it's a grateful show you know what i'm saying i really really appreciate it i am
so excited to be back in the club you know what i'm saying i feel like right now is no better time
i've actually been lurking in the shadows for a little while but i'm excited to also be joining
as a community uh team lead over at filter and and just working you know what i'm saying it's
what i've been doing in the space for the past few years and it's something i'm going to continue to
keep doing and you know being back as a as a mutant being back in the club and getting to build with
ip again i just i'm uh i'm very excited and i already got my filter ready to rock and roll so
yeah a lot coming soon let's go man i love to hear that i love to i love to hear the excitement
in your voice man that's amazing i appreciate y'all so much man thank y'all very much yeah welcome
back bro so proud of you man and you got your filter ready what yeah yeah i you know i sat in
the background and been talking to dutch and stuff like that i wanted to make sure that when i rolled
out and like i was going to be able to you know automatically have a filter and stuff like that so
yeah we're rocking and rolling man i'm super excited we're going to be doing some events
coming up like blackjack where the community can participate and like there'll be prizes of like
up to 500 and stuff like that but you'll see like me and probably a few other people on the team like
with our filters live on screen uh doing blackjack doing fast round poker stuff like that you know
what i'm saying uh we want to create we want to gamify the space a little bit and create some events
that is going to draw in a little bit of participation and you know in this space we like to gamble
so you know what i'm saying we got a few tricks up our sleeve we're gonna hit the hit the the ground
running and see see what we cook up let's go man can't wait uh i know mutants they are they are really
uh you know they're really waiting for 3d avatars for other sites so uh i think 3d models for for calls
and for the app uh are amazing uh damn it's got to be absolute game changer can you imagine all the
mutants like whenever we join other side and uh i'll see you guys there as your 3d mutant avatars i
think it's gonna be absolutely unreal right so can't wait for that can't wait
yeah makavali thank you so much for joining us uh if you haven't been to welcome apes i think it's
it's amazing uh space to join it's tomorrow uh i don't know where i'm definitely gonna show up to
welcome age tomorrow because i'm excited to be back in the club i still actually have to delegate
a hot wallet and go hop in the discord and sign up and stuff like that and get my role again and
stuff like that it's been a while since i've been in discord i have to get it probably to probably go
back in there but um yeah like i said super excited man um we're right at the precipice of the start of
a bull you know what i mean like or the next round of the bull i should say and like i think that the
past 13 months in this ecosystem have been amazing literally if you go back a year bitcoin's sitting
like at 36 37 thousand dollars you know what i'm saying like and right now we're pushing 95 to 100
k so you know with everything on the rise with just the way that the club is moving and stuff i'm so
excited to be in this economy with you know web3 and all of the crypto companies especially with a
president like this coming into office who's got a focus on on you know technology and who wants to
grow so like yo no better time my friends 100 100 i saw someone tweeting uh today that a lot of normies
approach him and were like man you are right about crypto i should i should have bought like uh two
years ago when you told me about it and uh he was like about it today is also a good time to buy and
they were like no it's too high it's too high i'll wait so it's always the same story for for normies
right they'll and in two years they'll be like man i should i should have bought two years ago so
yeah i think it's it and they say i knew it right they never buy but then they say i knew it i should
have bought it you know what's tricky because you are here 24 7 you i really believe i know where
crypto and ai where is it heading right you have a feel and and you know you talk to people and you
you read and learn about it stuff but 99 of people they have no idea what's happening in this space
right and i saw i'm not saying that we are elon musks here but i saw elon talking about um about
the internet back in the day right and he described it perfectly and everyone was like you crazy that's
not gonna happen and i think the same is happening in crypto when you are in that deep and i think
andrew horowitz also talked about it that when you are so deep into it uh you are 100 too early
anyway right so that's very important for market like to be on time like uh he he talked about
um the what was the name of the device newton or something like that basically i ipad uh announced
20 years before the ipad and it didn't work because you didn't have like mobile connection you didn't
have like high resolution displays etc etc after 20 years they launched ipad and it was a huge success
right so you need you need to have good timing and it's amazing to be this close in web 3 and to see
everything was happening uh you know it's it's unbelievable beast i saw you i mean to go ahead
it's fascinating man i watched the video of steve jobs uh talking about computers during the time when
they had lisa so it was when was that like 80s and he was using the analogy to explain what computer
program is and there were like designers and there are people like educated on the tech already but most of
them actually didn't know what's the computer program and he he used an analogy explaining it on
like a way that it's like a similar to tv but that it's just a different medium and then he went like
you know like deeper with things that people can actually imagine or people could imagine and it was
so amazing and it reminded me so much of web 3 because it was the same thing he even said in like
in 5 or 10 years like this will gonna happen and obviously it happened but people couldn't get it
back then so it's it's fascinating man but you understand it right now right but people in that
era in that time they were like what is he talking about right because you you know you can connect the
dots backwards as he said in that famous speech but i i believe it's like when you talk when you talk
to your normie friends about why bitcoin is important like what's happening what is the
metaverse what's everything that's happening in this space they are like uh what what what the fuck
you talking about man you crazy you crazy but i guarantee you in 10 years a lot of my friends uh last
cycle bought the top of shiv and doge and um they're like excited as hell that the market's on its way
back right now because they've seen a return in their bags you know what i'm saying and even over this past
year a lot of them bought ethereum at about between a thousand and twelve hundred when we went through
that period back in 22 23 you know what i'm saying so like they're all doing really a lot better now
because they took that advice but they're excited to see doge and kind of make that return
oh 100 man 100 and i'm happy that also nfts got back because i don't know what kind of
probably with all these revolution revolutionary things in the world they are such a strong haters
right um the same happened with iphones man like such a stupid thing as a phone without a
you know keyboard right and man when they launch like people are like are you stupid why don't you
have keyboard on your phone man you you crazy right you know you yeah we are the only ones who
remember that i don't know man i loved blackberry i was a big fan of blackberry by the way
but i actually wanted to uh to double tap on this because our friend who is a big uh technology
influencer uh with like hundreds of thousands of followers i remember he he telling me uh back in
the day they were having like a small group of uh of friends uh meeting up uh and it was called
something like a literally group of friends a group of fans of apple devices and back then it was so
crazy like people were looking at them what what are you talking about what what what the hell and he
he said uh uh the during our talks about like nfts and about web3 and about crypto that that this
reminds him uh reminds him so much of this era like they were so deep into it they were so excited
about it they saw where it's heading and it did when it did go there yet everybody was looking at them
like what are these freaks talking about and it's exactly what has been happening here in our space
for the past years it's crazy man like one more thing to that like steve jobs talk because i was
really fucking fascinated that he there was a group of designers and the reason why he was giving the
speech was actually to explain them what's what's gonna happen and to actually you know sort of like
hire them or like let them join him to create a beautiful like software and computers and he said
that it's inevitable that these things in five ten years that it's gonna happen so he was sure about
the computers he was sure about like the computer programs and everything and he told them that this
is going to happen no matter whether you want want it or not it's a fact it's gonna happen but now
you guys have the opportunity to join me and you can create a future much better much more beautiful
we can create better software like you know like we can create this like next revolution much better
than if you don't join me and i was like fuck this is so crazy man and just look at bitcoin man people
have been fading bitcoin for like 15 years and they were wrong every fucking single year man like what's
going on like they're like it's going to zero etc etc like come on man but i love the story that
well i think when they were working on on ipod um it was too thick right and the designers they were like
we cannot make it any any thinner so he actually took the ipod ipod prototype and he he uh throw
or he threw it into the into the little fish tank or what was that right and he was like there are bubbles
so it means there is air so you can make it yeah i don't know in um in web 3 if we have something
like that maybe with a ledger i don't know ethereum layer one can be faster i'm sure there must be a
way even with keeping like the decentralization and all this shit but when we're talking about this
future future stuff i think part of the dip that we are probably still experiencing what was that
announcement of a new state-of-the-art quantum computing chip right uh and people started
panicking that they can uh they can crack basically bitcoin and everything uh i have few tweets um i'll
quickly go through them uh matt higgins he tweeted that if quantum computing cracks bitcoin that will be
that will uh coincide uh with a digital apocalypse i would unravel the entire fabric of society
compromise the security of everything we rely on online banking credit card networks stock markets
like basically if it really crack bitcoin it cracks everything else so we don't have to worry that much
right so uh also what's crazy kevin rose somehow is back or i don't know what's happening but he also
tweeted about about a quantum computer i don't know why so there were many takes but um
i'm not expert on this topic i just trust what i what i saw from from people uh short answer it was
always know that we shouldn't be worried if we are in the crypto uh so yeah i'll trust that uh we can
do anything about it anyway so yeah but it's interesting gets bit you know anything else about it
should be should we be worried not much about that but i was gonna comment on what beast was saying
on eath being more scalable we can't forget eath is still on the rollout of the 2.0 there's still
a bunch of phases to come out and we seem to all have forgotten and that's gonna make everything more
scalable not just eath but l2s l3s by a lot so um and maybe even cheaper you know in terms of gas
fees and all this which is the intention so um yeah bro i just wanted to add to that because um
with the bull season coming and and eath still focused on scaling and creating a better technology i think
it's just gonna be insane for all of us you know and all the l2s and l3s and eath chain all of it
so devs are still cooking i love to hear that gets me yes sir love it guys love it such a great show
today on tuesday um yeah we kind of doing them longer and longer uh i love it because we had so
many topics to talk about it's absolutely wild right i i always talk about the the bear market that
basically there was nothing happening like you know now we have so many announcements and i mentioned
that alts by adidas guys so if you own alts by adidas go to your favorite marketplace i don't know
if it's magic eden after today's drop if not you can go to open see you can refresh the the the meta
data and see your alts by adidas uh your pfp it's a 3d uh avatar so it's a little bit similar to clonex
which is like i don't want to say funny because it's definitely nothing is funny about clonex at
this time but um it's similar and i i i bookmark a few more tweets that i i'll definitely go through
because they are very educational so there is a tweet from pio and i don't know if it was a joke
or serious one but um i think it might also be serious and good uh good advice because he actually
shared a picture of books like compound effect intelligent investor uh one up on wall street
stock operator right like all these books about investing and he tweeted it's wild that you actually
don't have to read any of these investing books you can just have a job and invest money into bitcoin
and never sell it right and it's crazy that like bitcoin did so well if you just bought bitcoin like
if you got a little bit earlier and it's still great if you compare it to last year and the year
before right man it's i don't know if it's just my bubble but i see more and more people talking
about bitcoin and crypto compared to for example real real estate right that you know i don't know what
you guys think about it but it's absolutely crazy it's something i don't know if people don't see
that or uh if they try to fade it i don't know
yeah shared with you today grateful uh the the crypto cycle roadmap and we are now in the like the
media attention one so now uh after that comes uh enthusiasm then greed of course delusion then the new
paradigm paradigm so which is like like the very very top then it's it comes denial and bull trap of
course and return to normal so it pumps again and then again fear and it's going down back to uh to
the bear market and we did experience all i did experience we did a full circle uh yeah i did i did
experience this even twice and uh i know what i'm gonna do different what i'm hoping to do different
this time but uh it was it was proven uh i think it was on the mail grow today uh the newsletter and
it was uh it was showing also the the headlines of the major media writing about bitcoin even some of
the media saying apologies to our readers for uh saying that bitcoin is not a good investment and uh
and we we told you it's not going up anymore and even like uh like new york times or somebody like
really major having a big coverage about meme coins and everything which is like really crazy so i think
with the medium uh media attention we are back i think so where where are we not right now in the
circle are we in the in the hope phase or in the belief phase we're definitely not in the euphoria
yet i believe so with no no i think i think just the media attention because uh and and we were talking
about it on the show a lot before that the 100k bitcoin is basically a psychological thing and i think
that's the main kind of trigger with uh many people's minds so i think we are in that in that
era i'm gonna uh just uh just spin it uh to the comments uh the picture because it shows it brill it's
brilliant i think and and i'm really big fan of it and i do believe it's it's working like this
man it it's crazy right and i'm really grateful that we had opportunity to actually live through it
because that's something that really go ask your friends outside of web 3 uh if they were able to
experience anything close to this like most of them uh really couldn't experience anything close to
this so it's crazy it's crazy and uh it's gonna get crazier guys trust me i have breaking news here
uh but tino i see you unmuted so uh if you want to go ahead and then no no no go ahead i was just
posting so i couldn't mute okay okay got it uh there was a ama in the pagi penguins uh discord
and um there are a few points that i would love to share about pengu here a big shout out to our uh
czech and slovak club because it was there someone shared there because we have a lot of pagi penguins
holders there too uh so the rarity impact rarity will likely not multiply pengu claims um so that's
another one there there are a lot of talks about rarity if it's going to have any uh weight or you
know if it um multiply the pengu claim so it won't unclaimed pengu there's 88 day claim window unclaimed
for uh portions likely burned donated to pagi kindness or tbd by the community the distribution
25 supply 15 000 wallets other communities allocation 25 supply 5 million wallets uh small allocations
for other community trading etc etc smooth launch means success right and i really think that it's
part of the experience that you want to make it smooth i think the magic eden the thing is and a lot
of people actually hated the app uh that uh they they didn't enjoy the the magic eden app and i think
it's important like you want to have a smooth launch i know it's not always possible but
uh easy access to pagi ecosystem buying pengu instead of uh four thousand dollar um nft that's
also valid point the token aims to be cultural gateway to pagi's world so i'm really curious how
they um how they connected with their toys and everything that's happening in in web 2 and more
details coming soon all eyes are on the penguins no room for error keep supporting the community team
token token and token lounge so uh there was a ama in the discord if you are uh pagi penguin uh go there
and check it out um i think this all makes sense guys uh i'm i'm really cheering up for them and i
really hope everything will go well because uh if they win we are also win and uh i i don't even like
the news like pagis flipped apes and ape flips pagis and and this flips that right uh it's such a small
space i know it's great headline to get engagement 100 but i i think we really need to uh cheer for
each other and uh you know try to find what works together and builds together so yeah
yeah and if if the token goes well you know pagi keeps going keeps building attracting more they they
will be attracting more people you know for into the into crypto into web 3 and they will use the
like a different strategy than ape chain for example so it's all good right it's better we need to see
new ways we need you to see people exploring eventually we will see what works what doesn't
work so i'm also cheering for for everyone like building and i can't wait for open c man i'm i'm really
curious bro yeah so did i i didn't know that you could actually lock up the magic eden token for like
1000 days i saw a couple of people did it by mistake i almost i almost did you
i'm not doing that i'm a thousand days it's like a thousand years in this space but i'm checking the
price and 1460 days until like december 2028 oh that's fucking wild but it might be the best move
who knows might be right but uh you know with like few thousand uh dollars that you get from this
come on in this market you can you can turn it into like 10 20 50 million dollars right
no i'm kidding guys don't do that it's always risky but uh the fdv is still 5 billion so the the
magic eden token sits at five dollars which is there was a huge jump of course because i think
uh people couldn't couldn't claim so there were only a few sellers so it skyrocketed to like 12
but now i think it's uh it went to 4.4 was the low and now it sticks to to around five dollars which
is not bad not bad well had interesting tweets today also about like comparing to blur looks rare
tensor and x2 y2 and he tweeted about like the peak after the after the launch right and with blur
for example it took four days to hit the peak with looks rare looks rare it took three days
with tensor one day and x2 y2 it took two days so apparently based on his data it wasn't like
immediately it didn't take like few minutes or hours right so i'm wondering you know like uh if if
magic eden is gonna be the same same thing that we might not see in the top yet but i don't know
damn let's go man let's go we'll see we'll see uh we'll see yeah let let let let's see what's
gonna happen man exciting times ahead guys uh glad you mentioned looks rare man that was another
claim in the in the last cycle smoke man oh it was crazy it was crazy i almost forgot about it but
yeah guys i think we went through so many topics it was great i enjoyed it so much thank you so much
for joining us here everyone oh sorry maca you i uh macaveli i saw your hand sorry if you want to
add anything go ahead man oh yeah i just think i i i'm really i really like the way that this went
down with the magic even claim and stuff like that i think it was pretty smooth i think that
you know and if anybody who hasn't claimed you still have till um february to do so but
essentially i think that you know i'm holding mine i don't know if i'm gonna lock it up yet i thought
about locking it up and and you know essentially if we lock it up that's like until the next bull
essentially you know what i'm saying four years down the line where there's going to be a little
bit of a bear in between there i wouldn't i would think so you know what i'm saying so but um i'm
holding i think it's going to go a lot higher they're they're involved with every chain they're
just they're coming out with suey now i think there's going to be a lot of side quests and things
like that going on that you're going to be able to like you're going to see this grow a little bit
i don't think they're they're quite finished yet so i'm holding on to mine i mean there is still
37.7 percent for the community so this was just 12.5 percent of the airdrop for the community
so the majority is still going to be distributed
yeah let's see guys um for me it works quite simple if i sell it goes up if i hold it goes down so
um yeah always like that but good luck with claiming claiming if you haven't claimed yet
uh that that's not the last one trust me there there are more things uh that are coming and
you know i mentioned that rift also for heavy metal uh holders we have pangu uh and nifty island
etc etc so wild wild season can't wait for uh everything that's happening in this space
tino beast anything else that you would like to add before we wrap it up no i just uh went back
to check the charts of blur looks rare tensor and x2y2 and i got a little bit of ptsd again so
i think it was a beautiful show today and let's fucking set everything higher again
yeah with that being said what more can i add
yeah amazing show uh i really enjoyed it today and uh it's uh it's exciting what's happening what's
gonna happen i don't know it's uh it's just uh every day something something new so let's let's see
where we're heading oh shit i checked the chart too guys holy smoke that was a mistake probably
okay so the so the tweet i said it was written by well i didn't double check the data right
because when you when you look at the chart like the the fucking dip after that it's fucking scary
what the hell oh my god that's really well you see it also right but tensor actually is doing
not that bad okay in terms of the price okay yeah guys thank you so much uh have a great
tuesday don't forget tomorrow there is a welcome ape space on thursday we're gonna be back
at 6 p.m ct noon est and also uh i think uh is it like 2 or 3 p.m est there is uh other side
bubbles so we gotta be there uh don't forget about it you need i think you just need a yuga id to be
able to join uh it's always fun and you can uh you can just wander around the swamp there i think
it's a hundred percent worth it to join so don't forget about it and yeah guys this was grateful
show 325 let's fucking go
and as always we gotta clap our hands let's go yo let's fucking go
clap your hands
clap your hands
Man, when Chuck D was saying, I'm not tired, I'm retired, sometimes I would change the text,
like, I'm not tired, but I'm a little bit retarded, you know, from buying all that stuff.
Let's go, guys, have a great Tuesday, have fun this week, and enjoy the end of the year, let's fucking go!
Big love, everyone, see you on Thursday.