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Meet the EVM dApps ft. Mach, Lair Finance, and Borderless
Recorded: July 18, 2025 Duration: 1:02:00Space Recording
Short Summary
Injective's recent discussions reveal exciting developments including the launch of new projects on its EVM testnet, the introduction of the first INJ staked ETF, and strategic partnerships aimed at enhancing liquidity and user engagement in the DeFi space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Good morning, afternoon or evening ninjas.
Hope everyone is having a great week.
Super excited for this space as we introduce three really top-notch projects that have launched
on the Injective EVM testnet. And so we're excited to get them up here on stage, learn
a little bit about them. And I think the best part is get your guys' thoughts on these projects
as well. So definitely stay tuned. We have a lot in store, so just hang on for maybe
two more minutes
while we get the speakers up here on stage.
And then we'll get things kicked off.
Thanks everyone for joining. All right.
Let's see.
We have the first team on board, Borderless.
Borderless, do you mind if we just check your guys' mic real quick?
Yeah, yeah. Check, check. board borderless borderless do you mind if we just check your guys's mic real quick yeah yeah check
check good deal awesome all right and let's see we're trying to get the layer team up here as well
as the mock exchange team so yeah just give me about one more minute to get them layer team up here as well as the mock exchange team.
So yeah, just give me about one more the Lair team up here.
Layer team, do you mind if we test your audio?
GM, GM.
GM. Awesome. We got Kiki in the house.
That's right.
Amazing. Cool. And then I see the mock team here.
Mock team, let's get you up here on stage.
All right. Awesome.
I think we got all three speakers here.
Mach, do you mind if we just test your audio real quick and then we'll jump into things?
Sure. Hey, how's my audio sounding?
Loud and clear. Awesome. Okay, you guys. Well, we have our full panel here. It looks like we have a
nice bit of people that have joined already. I'm sure more
will be kind of trickling in over the next few minutes. But again, I want to thank everyone for
joining. It's a super awesome day. I do want to do just a quick plug on yesterday's announcement.
We are excited to announce that Canary Capital has filed the first INJ staked ETF with the SEC.
Capital has filed the first INJ staked ETF with the SEC.
In fact, right now you can go to the SEC website,
see that on their website and read the whole sort of S1
and kind of dive into the details.
But we are super excited because that is just the next level
of sort of evolution of Injective.
And we're so excited to be on this journey with you guys
and have these awesome projects that we're going to be spotlighting today along for the journey. And so let me just give a
quick primer on sort of where we're at, and then we'll kind of jump into some intros with the teams.
So we are currently in a public testnet phase of the Injective EVM. And what that means is essentially anybody can essentially deploy onto the Injective testnet,
as well as any user can essentially use any of the dApps
that have already deployed on the Injective EVM testnet.
So we're going to be spotlighting three awesome projects today
that are building in kind of different sectors of the EVM.
And I'm really excited to kind of different sectors of the EVM.
And I'm really excited to kind of showcase these
because I feel like each project has, you know,
different levels of experience,
sort of different angles that they're gonna be
sort of representing here
and really pushing forward on the testnet.
And as we sort of gear up for our mainnet launch,
you know, these guys are at the forefront of this deployment.
And so with all that being said,
I do wanna jump into some intros here as,
if you are just joining us, you're a new ninja,
maybe you've been a ninja for a long time.
I think it'd just be very helpful for people
to kind of understand who you are,
what you're building, things of that nature and so um without further ado i will hand it off uh mock exchange if you want to go first
with a quick intro yeah hey everyone uh this is gabe from mock exchange um mock is a cross-blockchain swaps platform that basically allows you to take, you know, thousands of tokens on, say, Ethereum or an L2 like Arbitrum and transfer them to any other L2 with, you know, kind of minimum slippage, minimum cost as fast as possible.
minimum slippage, minimum cost as fast as possible.
And yeah, we currently support Injective, MegaEth, Monad, and Sepolia on Testnet.
And we're super stoked to be partnered with Injective.
Love it.
Hey, thanks for that.
We'll go to our next speaker here, Lair Finance.
Yeah, hi all.
This is Kiki from Lair Finance.
First of all, thank you for having us on Injective Space.
And what Lair is building on Injective is a first native liquid staking token on Injective AVM,
which is called LSINJ. is a first native liquid staking token on Injective EVM,
which is called LSINJ.
And it's tailored specifically for the Injective EVM.
So it's designed to integrate seamlessly,
no friction into INJ ecosystems.
And will lead to a liquidity hub for Injective as well.
We've prepared so many things,
alphas, roadmaps throughout this AMA,
so make sure you stay tuned until the last minute.
And thank you.
Love it. Awesome.
And then last but not least, Borderless.
If you want to give a quick intro, go for it.
Oh, yeah. G.I. Minjus. I'm Joseph, co- least, Borderless, if you want to give a quick intro, go for it. Oh yeah.
I'm Joseph, co-founder of Bolas, the native DeFi hub of Injective.
Bolas is covering the entire lifecycle of digital assets from its pre-launch to spot
trading all on a single high performance platform it's uh very glad to be here to to share
our uh current stage and uh progress to you guys yeah
amazing cool well let's just jump into it you guys i have a few prepared questions and hopefully
there will be some good conversation out of it.
And I'd love just for this to kind of be an open forum, you know, for anyone that wants to jump in and chime in.
You know, there's really no sort of formal sort of speaking order or anything like that.
So just feel free to just jump in with whatever question you'd like
to answer. But the first one I'd like to ask is really around, you know, a lot of the times I find
that, you know, when projects are sort of first launching, or they've sort of recently launched,
that they try to be sort of this everything, right? They try to cater their project to
everyone, right? And they try to be this one-stop solution for everyone.
But, you know, I think what we found is that in crypto specifically,
you just need to be really good at like one thing.
And, you know, the question I would pose to sort of the panelists here are like,
what is your sort of superpower, right?
What is that one thing that you think you're better at than anybody else, whether it's
an injective or in crypto, you know, more generally, right?
Like, like, how would you describe your project?
Like, hey, we do this better than everyone else.
So maybe let's start there and anyone can kind of jump in for that first question.
So I'm happy to take that to start.
We've done some work on this and Mach in general
tends to outperform the market in transferring liquidity
of a token that is sort of a main token on one blockchain to another blockchain
where you know liquidity sources may not be as prevalent so you know if you need liquidity
operations to get your tokens you know on a different chain rapidly and for as low cost
as possible MOC is generally going to be the best solution for that.
On Injective Testnet, you know,
I think we're still carving out our niche
and where we can support the community the absolute best.
But we had really high activity
on our previous Testnet launches,
launches. So I'm confident that we're going to find that.
so I'm confident that we're going to find that.
Yeah. Thanks for that answer, Mach. I appreciate you sort of elaborating, right? You guys have
some experience with some of these other ecosystems and I think it's, you know, each ecosystem is a
bit different and obviously being here with the ninjas, you know, I'm sure you're learning in real time, like what people like, what people want, what people want to see from your application.
And I think there's no better way than just like immersing your guys' projects into spaces like this or in our discord or just like sleuthing on our X.
our rx you know it's it's really like an open green field i think and uh there's just so many
You know, it's really like an open green field, I think.
opportunities to really find that niche and really dominate right and be that sort of dominating
player in that in that space so uh appreciate you answering that mock uh layer or borderless do you
guys uh want to chime in here yeah i can go next um So what we are focusing is three things.
The first is very simple UI UX for users to be very intuitive.
So if you go on RRD app,
there's only one feature right now because it's testnet.
But you can just stake your INJ with one click.
And I think that's easy to onboard even new users, especially when it comes to DeFi.
It could be a bit complicated, but that's what we're trying to focus and provide.
And the other one is we're very, because we were rid of from Kaya chain, which is a lot of Asia user base through line messengers.
And we'd like to bring those community into injective and vice versa.
So that could be like inclusive, like whole around the world together, which is like what WIP3 is targeting for.
And lastly, it's very,
the integration is very simple
because it's through EVM.
And these three is what we're focusing
to build on the injective mostly.
Awesome.
Yeah, I think, you know, Kiki, you said it best, you know, I think just eliminating the distractions at application level hopefully find out one day, right? You have just specifically focused in on that liquid staking vertical and have abstracted away all the other complexity,
which I think, you know, can definitely be powerful when it comes to onboarding new users and maybe
users that might be experienced, but don't have familiarity with sort of your application and
your background. So I think there's a lot of power in sort of that simplification effort as well.
Uh, borderless, do you want to chime in on this one as well?
Yeah.
Uh, border super power.
I think it's been the, the, the first AMM based for life cycle.
That's, uh, enabling the, the, the, the the the permissionless trading of not only
pre-launch assets, SACs, but also spot assets.
And in the future, it will expand to perpetual trading.
By combining concentrated liquidity with future style, margin mechanics, Bolas delivers real price discovery,
actual yields and capital efficiency for crypto assets.
Furthermore, these assets seamlessly graduate
to Bolas sport markets post-TGE,
ensuring that continually earning
and deepening user engagement across all other stages.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
And, you know, maybe abstracting from this sort of start very niche and very small and getting one thing right.
Maybe let's go to the opposite side of things.
Right. right, maybe let's go to the opposite side of things, right? So maybe a community member is
maybe not sort of focused in on that one particular feature or product niche that you're operating now,
but maybe you could abstract a way of like, what will your dApps look like in, you know,
the future, right? Like what is the end state of each of your dApps, right? What do you want
to accomplish with it?
What sort of features do you think will be included? And like, what are what are the audience
is do you think will like most, you know, get the most value out of your applications,
right? So like, I guess to distill this down, like, what is the end state of each of your daps
call it in, you know, five years or so.
So for Mach, we're going to have a lot of news to share on this very soon. We have,
we're going to have some new roadmaps coming out and everything, but I'll just keep it brief to say that Mock is going
to transform its privacy focus, essentially. And we basically want to counteract all of the
front-running MEV problems, kind of the problems of information leakage on chain, which is really going to open
us up to a lot more institutional or just say, you know, professional financial opportunities.
And as you know, you know, Injective is the best blockchain for finance. So, you know,
we'd be really excited to see how that interplay could evolve. So basically you know, we'd be really excited to see how.
How that interplay could evolve.
So, basically, yeah, I'm not in the future. Look for us to get faster, higher depth.
And much more private and practical. So yeah, so I can go for the next one.
So our end state for layer finance would be like, okay, first of all, people will be
like, okay, I stake INJ and I mint LSINJ.
What am I going to do with it?
Right? So if I take INJ and I mint LSINJ, what am I going to do with it?
So what we're trying to provide here is the utility for our liquid staking token.
And because we've been building on Kaya Chain and Berachain different vaults where people
can stake their token, mint their liquid staking token and then restake it to farm even more yields.
So from our end would be you stake our liquid staking.
And then in the end, you can farm like multiple L1s by doing one action.
And that's what we're trying to provide here so that people can eventually make more money
and create more yields.
Yeah, so if you go on our testnet page,
imj.layer.fi, it's very simple right now,
but on mainnet, we'll try to bring out more features
like vault or earn page that's going on right now
on our website. And yeah yeah we are really looking forward to
bring more to communities and create more volume here
yeah it's my turn right i think the end state of borders is to become the default value for not only the crypto
native tokens, but also the on-chain stocks, RWA lifecycle trading and management.
A vertically integrated defined terminal where users can discover, speculate
on and trade any asset from the inception to maturity or natively injected.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
I love it.
Well, cool, guys. We've now covered the niches you're currently operating in, and we've gotten a bit of a vision on what you're building in the future and can draw that line as far as what your progress looks like and what things can we get excited for.
can we get excited for?
With regards to that,
we obviously have the ninja community here,
a lot of which are,
some are very experienced ninjas in DeFi.
Others are sort of just getting started,
maybe brand new to the space.
They're kind of looking for things to kind of test
and wondering sort of which features
they can go about testing.
Could you maybe just give a quick little primer
on sort of the different sorts of operations
people can start testing out on each of your applications
and sort of what they can then go
and sort of do with those types of things?
Sure, so on Mockock it's very simple. You can basically connect your wallet
and trade your testnet injective for other testnet tokens like testnet monad, testnet
Sepolia E, you can trade those testnet assets that you might have to gather more
injective, more testnet injective, which you might want to use all the testnet applications out there.
And yeah, if you run into any difficulties, you can just reach out to us.
you can just reach out to us.
Awesome.
Okay, so for Layer, it's very easy.
Our website is called inj.layer.fi.
I'll share this after AMAs.
So make sure you follow our Twitter account.
And on our website, you connect wallet and you put the amount of
inj that you like to stake on our platform and that's it you just um stake it and mint ls inj
yeah
cool uh uh at current stage i think ninjas should explore borders only that I think it's smoothly swapped.
Trade INJ or WRNJ stablecoins within one click. And in the future, there are more features on the way.
The pre-market trading, trade the points,
pre-launch tokens and the shafts before they go large.
And the points farming,
to the points to work and rail yield
and bonus bring back DefySummer vibes
with the composable incentives.
And our innovative market maker curve, we call it MLMM, Margin Liquidity Market Maker,
try our unique MM that blends future style margin with concentrated liquidity for better
price discovery and tighter spreads and the launchpad to spot flow stay ahead
of like token launches and a seamless move from pre-market speculation to live for trading no
bridges and off platform house and then learn how to maximize your experience from farming to
liquidity provision to pre-launch alpha place whether you are trader lb or early
project supporter bolus gives you the tools to go from zero to listed all on chain and all in one
place and all native to inject it yeah amazing thank you guys yeah i just want to double tap on what you were saying joseph
let's get d5 summer going you guys uh it's been just an awesome summer and we're just getting
started uh you know obviously with the things happening in the background um you know with
the etf launch uh everything else is just like in in sort of alignment right for for
DeFi summer to play out so super excited for for what's to come but yeah thank you guys for kind of
you know illuminating what's what people can do on each of your applications one of the things
too I want to jump to is you know know, some of you guys, this is
your, you know, one of your first deployments, or you're just still getting up to speed on sort of
web three development. And then others of you, you know, you've deployed in multiple ecosystems.
You know, you're, you're an expert in solidity and all these types of things. I do want to maybe
double tap
or investigate a little bit more
if just like, how has your experience been
developing on Injective?
And how would you sort of tell perspective developers
that are maybe looking to deploy on Injective next
or maybe looking for a new home?
You know, what Injective sort of offers and why you're excited for building on Injective?
Sure. So, you know, Mock is a cross-chain protocol.
And so we kind of require a few building blocks to make those transfers happen securely.
And so, you know, since it has been testnet, those things have gotten in piece by piece.
And yeah, basically the Injective team
has been great in helping us launch.
So I would say, you know,
like a testnet needs to reach a certain point
before we can deploy there.
And, you know, luckily, you know,
Injective deployed all those features
and we got on.
So the one thing I'll say
that stands out is that the core Injective team has been the most helpful team that we've ever
worked with as far as responsiveness you know finding the needs of our protocol and you know
working directly with us to make all those things happen as quickly as possible,
looping in all the infrastructure partners needed. So 10 of 10 would recommend deploying on Injective.
And I just want to say, kind of off topic, I can't wait to try Layer and Borderless.
They both sound like such cool dApps.
Just been heads down building right now, you know,
but I'm going to check out their dApps right after this.
And Kiki is doing such a great job of promoting their product, okay?
So I'm just going to drop in, you know, testnet.mock.exchange, okay?
It's testnet.mock.exchange if Okay, it's testnet.moc.exchange
if y'all want to find it.
So, yeah.
Awesome.
Yeah, so to continue after Moc,
because I'm a non-developer,
I would add a little bit more from non-developer side.
Yes, the team is great.
And especially I was in Injective New York Summit
and the event was so great.
Like the operation, the scale they pulled out was amazing.
The merch, everything was perfect.
So I'm just super excited to be here
and to onboard with Injective community together
and the ninjas they're very welcoming so we would love to be look more inclusive in web3
so yeah looking forward to our testnet and our final product to be out soon.
Yeah, I knew Injective team about one year ago.
We met in Taipei and Denver before.
And I have to say Injective team is very supportive and they are passionate about all the innovative
things.
And Injective ecosystem is the one designed for DeFi, offering high speed scalability
and advanced infrastructure to power
the innovative applications.
So that's the vibe I love.
And app first is always the code, right?
So yeah, thank you guys.
And we're gonna bring DeFi Summer back.
That's the spirit, Joseph.
That was awesome.
Well, cool.
I do wanna turn it over for community questions.
So if you have a question for one of the panelists up here,
just go ahead and request to speak.
And I guess while we wait for the queue,
actually speaking of, we already have
someone that's quick, quick to the gun here. So I do want to bring up actually our first
community question from Q. And so Q, I invited you up.
I'm not sure if you see you.
Oh, here he is. Q, go for it.
Hey, Q, it looks like you're up on stage. Go ahead and unmute and ask your question.
Yeah. GM to the house. I don't know if you can hear me. Can you hear me?
We can. Yes.
Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Yes, pretty great to kind of like meet what I've been testing for like a couple of days and a couple of new faces, right?
Which is good.
But I do have one quick question, right?
I see a campaign going on March, right, for a second there.
a campaign going on on March right for a second there and I would like March to quickly just kind
of like go over it and how we could like join in I don't know I came a little bit uh maybe like uh
a little bit late a little bit but then I would like March to like go over that before I ask like
the other question I have
Yeah, so, um.
You know, we have various things going on. Could you could you.
Uh, specify exactly which campaign you're referring to.
Yeah, the 1 in your pin tweets.
So, let me just be honest. I'm an engineer and so I am filling in right now and I, oh, yeah, sure. The summer of love. So that's you you can go to app.mock.exchange and you know uh trade away
and you know top three traders will uh will win some prize money
but yeah that's that's not a testnet promotion
okay okay that that is that is the part i was looking for whether or not it's the
yeah okay okay so it. So it's close.
It's not a testnet thing.
Okay.
And I'm pretty excited to get to discuss a little bit with Borderless, right?
I don't know.
Borderless, are you already on mainnet or it's just tested for now?
We are all native to Injective EVM.
So we are still on the face of test name.
Okay, okay, thank you.
I think these were like the two questions I had to ask.
Thank you for putting up this piece, injective.
Of course.
Thanks for being here, Q. Appreciate you.
All right.
Anybody else that wants to ask a question, go ahead and request.
But I guess in the meantime, you know, I do want to maybe just give a quick primer for people.
I did pin in this space. If you go to the top of the space, you'll see I've pinned a couple tweets.
Those are your essentially portal to the whole Injective EVM testnet, right? That's how you're going to get started.
If you click on those tweets, you'll see a link in there.
That's at themultivm.injective.com.
And essentially, that's our way of introducing you guys to this whole space, right?
It shows you the faucet on how to get testnet funds.
It shows you all the dApps that are currently deployed to get testnet funds uh it shows you all the daps that are currently deployed on
the testnet uh and then it also kind of uh has some modals for you to actually get started using
those applications right from that page directly so you can swap you can stake and so on and so
forth so there's just like a lot to do um yeah, like you could probably spend an entire day just going through each and every type of project, you know, investigating sort of what they do and how you can sort of leverage them once sort of mainnet comes around.
And so without further ado, it looks like Q, you have another question. So I'll let you ask another one. And then we have a couple more here that i want to get to but q go ahead yeah yeah sorry this this one was something uh i think a couple of
us had in our minds so the new people who kind of like join in and they want to stress right
i noticed that injective had like a gets ready like a set, basic set up where you just log in with your social
media, probably like Google or something, then just complete a few transactions right on the
homepage of the testnet over there. But I noticed that there was nothing like maybe import a wallet.
I don't know. Was that something that was intentionally done or maybe later on,
maybe later on it will be something that someone can export into a wallet actually?
it will be something that someone can export into a wallet actually?
Yeah, great question.
So to answer your question, the whole idea behind this multi-VM site that we put up here
was to make it just as simple as possible to get started on-chain.
And so that was a particular design decision for us to just basically,
you can literally get started in like a few seconds.
Right. Like we wanted like as fast for someone to go from zero to start using applications the fastest.
And we found that being able to essentially enable like a social login or like an email login was the easiest way to do that.
like a social login or like an email login
was the easiest way to do that.
And so you'll see on that page,
there is a way for you to just essentially get started
on the using a Web3 wallet,
or you can use your Web3 wallet.
Either way is fine.
You'll see, first there's a simple way
on how to add the INJ testnet to your MetaMask
or any other Web3 enabled wallet. And then right after
that, you're able to explore the Web3 apps, a couple of which are here on stage, like Borderless
and Yay. And also there's an easy way for you to just enter in your Web3 wallet and get testnet
tokens. So certainly, I think we've kind of covered both sides of the equation here. But, you know, things will change as we get closer to mainnet and make it sort of easier for Web3 natives and also Web3 beginners to get started on the injective testnet here.
So appreciate the question, though, Q. Very good.
All right.
Awesome. Thanks.
Thank you. Best man, go for it.
Yeah, thank you for the opportunity.
I just wanted to say that, first of all, I love the fact that you're coming up with these spaces and educating us on what you have on ground.
What you have on ground?
However as a newbie in this space and the crypto space, I'd like to suggest that
Maybe going forward. I mean just like you did today asking some of the co-hosts to
explain certain
aspects to the new I'd also like to
noobs i'd also like to urge you to have this um maybe you keep doing stuff like this always break
these things down for the newbies so we can follow through follow along and not miss out on anything
well that was a suggestion by the way the first and um the question i have also is uh should we Should we look forward to like maybe in the future an injective sort of injective wallet?
You know, we have all these wallets and injective is like a growing storm.
Should we look forward to like an injective wallet in the future?
So very good sort of question and suggestion.
I'll first cover your suggestion to begin with. I appreciate the feedback. I think that's brilliant. I think that, you know nothing about Web3 or about any of these projects.
Although after sort of I touch on your second point, I will open it up to the panelists to
explain, you know, if there's any other points you want to cover for like, if I'm a newbie,
right, if I'm a brand new Web3 user, how I might get started using each of these applications.
And so yeah, that kind of covered your first suggestion.
And then to your second question, I can't say a ton about that.
You know, obviously we have a lot sort of under development and sort of our main focus
right now is on mainnet.
But, you know, we hear you loud and clear on that front. And, you know, we are looking at ways
on how we can further simplify
and further make this Web3 experience
as seamless as possible, right?
Because the main criticism that Web3 has gotten in the past
is like, well, it's too complicated.
And if you don't already know sort of what you're doing
or what comes next, you know,
you end up just like giving up before you even get started.
So, you know, your your question and suggestion are very well received and the team is kind of looking at some of these avenues.
But maybe I'll leave it there. And if the panelists have any sort of ways that people can get started as a brand new user, I'll kind of leave it up to them to chime in.
Yeah, I can step in and guide you.
So what we're aiming here,
what Layer Finance is aiming on Injective
is very intuitive, straightforward, and simple platform
that every user is on Web3,
like newbies, pro, DGENs can use.
Obviously DGENs understand what we're building
without any explanations, but for new users,
what we provide is to stake your INJ.
So it's like a bank.
You put your INJ to us and we give you a new token, like LSINJ.
And this is only a testnet, but in further ado, we'll have multiple actions and vaults that you can utilize your token and eventually get more interest and more rewards along with your INJ token.
So, yeah, I mean, that's the I think the brilliance here of just the composability, right, is being able to not just have an asset that gets minted,
but, you know, further actions you can take with that asset to further generate yield or to
leverage or to borrow against, that's the beauty of this whole DeFi arena. So Kiki, really appreciate
you chiming in there and best man, hopefully that sort of answers your question and gives you an
idea of one of the easy ways on how to get started cool we do have another
speaker here so legacy if you want to ask your question you can unmute and go
ahead
with us um good day everyone thanks for all the explanations this morning so i'm so on that love
i've been writing trade on um exploring objective text next i've already written you guys then like
i've explored like two dabs and i've also got on that but one question that
and I've got a guide on that but one question that some of my followers used
to ask is that was the testnet in testified or not so I want to know about
that and the second question is what is the reason behind moving to multi-PM?
For just trying to move to multi-PM.
Legacy, do you mind repeating your first question?
I missed like the second half of it.
Do you get to the VM test and do you see incentives first?
And what I'm asking about the first question is the multi-PM test net, the objective multi-PM test net, is the incentive first?
So with regards to incentives, you know, we haven't revealed sort of anything yet.
I, you know, I will tell you that obviously being early is, is, you know, advantageous, I think, to new users and existing users as well.
So, you know, that's all I can really say at this point on that first question. On your second question about multi-VM. Yeah, I think, you know, the reason for doing that is, you know, Injective has always been sort of focused on being the blockchain built for finance.
So, you know, that's all I can really say at this point on that first question.
has evolved over the years to have these developer cohorts
that have adopted different programming languages.
So I think us moving to an EVM isn't saying that, hey,
we're fully abandoning where we came from,
but it's of how do we support more developers
and bring essentially our technology to more people and essentially meet developers where they are.
Right. I think the biggest ask in crypto for us to say, hey, if you want to build on us, you need to learn a completely new programming language is a very steep ask.
However, if we say, hey, now you can just program using the language you already know how to program in, that's a lot easier for us to essentially pitch and be able to attract developers to the Injective platform
and really make it easy for people to build on. Because, you know, we have realized that the EVM
and the sort of EVM developer community has a ton of tools, a ton of resources available to them,
you know, all thanks to, you know,
the Ethereum community and a lot of the other EVMs that have come over the last few years.
And we've seen that sort of trend happen in real time. And so our sort of thesis is, you know,
we want to essentially be there and meet the developers where they are and provide that really streamlined, very easy to build on technology,
as well as bring some of the more unique and boutique features of Injective, like our on-chain modules,
into this unified developer experience for people to be able to easily get started building an application in a
matter of, you know, hours and days versus weeks and months. And so that was really our thesis
behind sort of moving to this multi-VM vision. There's obviously a lot more I can go into on
that front, but maybe I'll pause there and, you know, let a few other speakers up here on stage.
But Legacy, really appreciate those questions. Thank you. pause there and let a few other speakers up here on stage.
But Legacy, really appreciate those questions. Thank you.
All right.
So we do have a couple more from the community here.
Let's see, we got Demo up here on stage.
Demo, if you wanna go ahead and speak,
you can unmute and go for it.
Okay.
It's a very good funnel to me.
I didn't know I was going to.
I almost missed this phase.
I think I'm actually happy I'm here.
So I have a question.
Okay.
is kind of related to the ETF.
It's kind of related to the ETF.
The injective de-abs, since it's,
let's say it starts gaining a lot of traction on the EVM,
would that actually straighten the ETF?
Like, I want to get a clarification on that.
Yeah, I mean, I guess I can't comment a bunch on the ETF
just because we're still in sort of the early phases of that.
And, you know, that's kind of Canary Capital's sort of focus here.
But I mean, what I can tell you is the EVM, you know, will onboard sort of more developers and users.
Right. And so that will also gain adoption of sort of the whole stack of injective tools so
uh you know not financial advice and you know this is not a recommendation this is just my opinion
is that you know this will increase adoption and and you know we hope to onboard the the future
cohorts of of developers and users and obviously, the sort of more developers there are building
on an objective, the more dApps there are, and the more dApps there are, and the more powerful
dApps there are, the more users there are. So it's really this flywheel effect that I, as Rocky
here behind the mic, is really excited about and could see a future on this flywheel effect essentially coming into play here.
Does that kind of answer your question, Deemon?
Yes, slightly. It's very okay. Okay, then, sorry, if you don't mind, I think I have a second
question, if you don't mind. Sure. Okay, so from um the test nets we have concerning the
borderless is there a way we could actually access it because to be honest
i think i don't i haven't seen an a thread on that and i have no access to
it oh yeah we we are we are like uh doing the the test and the finalize everything before we go live
and be public and we've been uh kobe with the injected team for for a while
and you're gonna see like you very soon uh i promise
like you very sad uh i promise okay thank you so much all right cool i appreciate the questions
there um let's see we got we got mo here uh mo go ahead and unmute and ask your question
so gene in jazz guys tuning. My question is simple.
So now, if the injective multivm mainnet goes live,
is the injective multivm token,
you guys mentioned launching a token, a multivm token,
is it like when the evm testnet goes,
mainnet goes live,
or when we are done with both SVM and probably move evm to,
that's when the multivm token will go live or as soon as they injected evm minutes multi-vm ecosystem i don't know if you are getting me goes live
we'll get the multi-vm token soon yeah i think you're referencing our multi-vm token standard
mts as we're calling it um the the beauty of is, you know, in other ecosystems that are running,
you know, potentially multiple virtual machines, they have these complicated bridging processes
and a lot of sort of behind the scenes complexity. But with this multi VM token standard,
it's a way to really unify that liquidity across VMs. So what that means is, you know, the INJ on EVM is the same as the INJ on, you know, a Cosmos DAP or on a, like you said, the SVM.
It's just one unified token standard across all of the different VMs.
So that's going to require, you know, no brid bridging no extra complexity it's just going to be one simplified
way for people to use one token across the entire injective ecosystem so that's a great question mo
did that answer your question yeah yeah it did thank you very much thank you very much thank you
for clarifying it and it's very nice being able to communicate with you guys. I'm hoping to you guys to post more of this
so we can just share our thoughts and ask our questions.
Thank you, guys.
Hey, thank you, Mo.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate the question.
Awesome.
We have a bunch of people still wanting to ask questions.
We do only have about 10 minutes left, you guys.
I do want to make sure that we have plenty of time to get to everyone.
Let's keep it to just one question for now. And so let's go with demo 99.
Greetings, greetings.
Hope you all can hear me.
Yep, we can hear you.
Hope you can hear me.
Please, I'm here to ask a question.
Please, is there any way we can have an app,
like an injective app on the go for the near future?
So we can easily assess the both the D apps
and every other functions on the protocol.
Is there a future whereby we can have an app
or are you people building an app?
That's what I'm trying to ask.
I'm trying to know about.
Yeah, so what you're referencing is some sort of app
that essentially is kind of like the multi-VM,
you know, portal we've set up, but more for mobile first.
Is that kind of what you're asking?
Yes, like something you can download on Play Store or App Store.
Yeah, so so you know, that's a great suggestion. And I'll
definitely take it back to the team. Like I've said in you
know, other sort of answers to questions, I think we're really
just focused on, you know, obviously getting to mainnet
first. And you know, we do hear you with regards to meeting users where
they are and so you know certainly some sort of you know easy to access portal or easy to access
application where essentially you can just start using applications in a very sort of unified way
we're definitely looking into those things um but i i guess i can't comment a whole lot more
than that but your your comment is very well received thanks thanks for the information
things i'm glad i'm glad to be here with you guys yeah thank you demo appreciate the question
all right uh on to the next one um marlino, or I'm sorry, Marleo.
Marleo, go ahead and unmute and ask your question.
Hey, it's Marleo here.
Can I have an audible?
Yep, we can hear you.
Okay, so I don't exactly have a question.
All I just want to say that I really love your project, Injective, and thank you for so many new features.
Keep going.
Okay.
And also thank you for liking the post.
That's all I wanted to say.
Hey, that's very sweet of you.
Thank you, Marleo.
Appreciate the comment.
And obviously, we appreciate you being a ninja here.
Yes, bro.
G-Ninja, bro.
G-Ninja.
G-Ninja.
Love it.
Love to see it.
Awesome.
All righty.
Cool.
Let's go to Wayne.
OK. Awesome. Alrighty, cool. Let's go to Wayne. Wayne Wang
Okay, so my question would be basically more on the future development of injective. Sorry about that.
So basically, you know, if you are going to the EUM development, we already got a lot of layer twos.
We got a lot of different cornerss, we got a lot of different
kind of like Sonana, they got a sole layer thing.
Basically, there are numerous number of very low cost, low transaction cost EVM that exist.
So how Injective is going to be competitive when you compare it to all those different kinds
of layer 2s or different other kinds of EVM chains.
So this is my first question.
And the second question is how do keep developing on the Cosmo ecosystem, on the app chain,
or most of the focus will be on EVMs in the future.
So I think that's my second question.
I just want to figure out, you know, the competitiveness of Injective
and, you know, and see what competitive advantage that you are providing to
developers or users or how can you attract user actually moving from different evm chains into
injective evm in the future thanks yeah great question wayne um and and i'll answer just maybe
one of those questions because we do have a few other speakers that need to ask their questions. But quickly, for the Injective EVM, I'll touch on two points. Number one is, you said there was other competitive layer twos, right? The sole layers of the world and some others.
of the world and some others.
The beauty about this multi-VM vision that we have
is that everything's gonna be on a layer one.
So like I said before,
there's gonna be sort of no bridging involved.
It's all gonna be integrated natively at the layer one level.
So, you know, complexity is gonna be a lot less.
There's gonna be a lot, you know,
no need for bridging and so on and so forth.
The cool thing about Injective in particular that no one else has
is that we have these on-chain modules that allow developers
to essentially tap into a shared liquidity layer
that is across the entire ecosystem.
So bootstrapping liquidity from zero is a non-issue now.
And that's something that I think only Injective can say
and allows for, you allows for these dApps
up here to essentially get started with an actual sort of liquidity base versus starting from
absolute zero. And there's other modules like an RWA module that allow institutions to essentially
put permissioned assets on chain, whitelist certain addresses, so that way they can do it in a very
compliant manner. There's a lot of other sort of points that I could maybe get into, but maybe I'll
just leave that there and say that we have these kind of two main points that Injective has that
nobody else has. And so, yeah, thanks for the question, though, Wayne. I do appreciate it.
JDot, I do want to move to you.
Go ahead, JDot.
JDot, you with us?
All right.
You with us, JDot?
Hello, sir.
Can you hear me?
We can hear you.
Yep.
Yeah, OK.
Can I ask my question, sir?
Yep, go for it.
Okay.
My question is, what benefit for long-term investor in your project?
That's my question.
So I can't really speak to investment advice or anything like that.
What I can just tell you is investment advice or anything like that.
What I can just tell you is this space is really focused on our sort of EVM and the DAPs we have up here.
And so do you have a question that's maybe applicable to the EVM
and or some of the DAPs up here?
JDot, you with us?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so, you know, this space, really, we're just trying to focus on sort of the injective EVM and these dApps up here.
So, yeah, if you have sort of other questions that are maybe outside of the injective EVM and these dApps up here. So yeah, if you have sort of other questions
that are maybe outside of the scope of this space,
we will be having a community call actually next week.
And that's more of a sort of general,
you know, injective community call.
And we'll have sort of other opportunities
to speak about those types of things.
And so I invite you, you know,
everyone here in the space as well,
as well as the DAPs here on stage to attend that.
And that's a great way to talk about different things
happening in the ecosystem.
It's much more sort of open and more generalized
and we kind of go from there.
So yeah, we are coming up here on time time guys. So I do want to maybe we'll
pause the conversation here, uh, for the panelists and everyone in the, in the audience here. I,
I invite you to our next community call. Uh, we are slated for next Friday. Um, so definitely,
you know, tune into that one. We'll have a lot more content to share with you guys then.
But yeah, I do want to just say a big thank you to Layer Finance,
Mock Exchange, and Borderless for being on the space today.
You guys are rocking it.
You know, we love having you a part of the Injective ecosystem.
And, you know, we're really excited to be building the future of finance with you guys.
And so I'll let you guys you guys have the final word here.
I guess, again, thank you for being here and appreciate the companionship.
We're looking forward to building the future together.
Thank you, Ninjas. Thank you, Injective, for having us.
It was very nice AMAs with Mock and Bordelost together and many other DApps coming up.
So yeah, make sure you check out our website,
follow us on Twitter, and participate in the future events.
We have so many things
prep for you so yeah looking forward to it let's go love to see it all right
yeah go ahead yeah yeah yeah I mean like it's simple like just follow us and stay tuned with us
and we're gonna launch our test made public publicly very soon and we're gonna expand to
much more sleek features in the future with injective yeah let's see
Okay, yeah, merci.
Mark, any final words before we cut everything off?
Yeah, I just want to say thank you very much to Injective for having us on the space,
for having us as a featured DAP on their EVM testnet.
It's been great working with you all.
Thank you to the Ninja community.
It's been a great time getting to know some of you.
And yeah, just remember if you want to swap on testnet or bridge on testnet, you can go
to testnet.moth.exchange.
Lair Finance and Borderless, I'm looking forward to connecting with you guys.
It just followed you on X.
And yeah, let's keep building.
I love it.
Thank you all for being here.
To the panelists, thank you again to the ninjas.
Appreciate you guys.
You guys are awesome.
Keep everything locked in. And we look forward to more spaces and more, you know, X content in the future.
And so without further ado, thank you all for being here and we'll catch you on the next space.
Bye.
Bye, guys.
Bye, guys. Thank you.
