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Meme Monday - Let's Touch Some Grass
Recorded: March 31, 2025 Duration: 0:51:03Space Recording
Short Summary
The discussion highlights the importance of community and collaboration in the crypto space, with Injective being noted for its ecosystem partnerships and innovative financial applications. AI's role in coding and its impact on career paths is explored, alongside the challenges faced by meme tokens in maintaining engagement amid declining token volumes. The value of personal connections in digital communities is underscored as a key trend.
Full Transcription
Thank you. What's going on, everybody?
Happy Monday.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Super excited for another Me Monday.
Here we go.
Let's get some of the speakers up here on stage and then we'll get things kicked off. All right.
Let's see.
Quance, you're on stage.
Let's test your audio real quick.
Good morning.
GM, GM.
How we doing?
Oh, just touching some grass on this Monday.
Must be nice.
Grass hasn't started growing here yet.
You gotta water it, man.
It's too cold
all right let's get some more folks let's see we got Nanja up here what's up Nanja
yeah what's going on everyone GM GM all All right. I see she here,
Ninja here.
Let's see.
We got agent here.
I'm inviting all you guys up here.
So let's see.
Hopefully it's working.
Nice.
We got agent in the house. What's up how are you doing okay yo gm dennis
gm gm and we got she up here what's up she hey guys can you guys hear me yep
cool i don't know let's see we got to get Kira up here. What's going on for us?
All right. Well, we're about to reach critical mass here, folks, and then we'll kick things off.
But I hope everyone's braving the storm out there. It's looking a little rocky.
No sense of my intended.
Yeah. All right. Let's see. Ninja, I'm trying to invite you up here. I'm not sure why it's not working, but I will keep trying.
I'm trying to invite you up here.
I'm not sure why it's not working, but I will keep trying.
With that being said, though, why don't we get things kicked off here?
We are three minutes past the hour.
So, yeah, happy to bring you another Me Monday here on the last day of March, last day of Q1.
We've had quite the journey this past, you know, call it three, four months here, you know, with the election, the markets going crazy, you know, things in the U.S., you know, going
up and down and gyrating around global wars and rumors of wars and all that good stuff.
And, you know, there's just lots of, I think, uncertainty in the moment.
So, you know, I think this this mean Monday, we're really going to be kind of focusing on the art of touching grass.
Right. It's super important for us to maybe take a step back from the keyboard, take a step back from crypto Twitter and the rabbit hole that it can be.
And just kind of reflect on on, you know, Q1 and, and sort of what's, what's happened and be thankful
for sort of where we are today. And so maybe we'll start off on a, on a very sort of high note and
let's maybe do around the horn and let's, let's do one thing that everyone's super thankful about,
or, or maybe wants to highlight, you know know their kind of top highlight of q1 so
anybody uh feel free to just jump in and we'll go around the horn I can start um I'm thankful to
have like this privilege of like even if the markets are down to be in the space to have the opportunity to have access to
internet to crypto space to coding tools to just like a build out the vision that we have
helping people to trade better to have a better adoption and I think not everyone has this
privilege so even if the market is red I think everyone here
can be really thankful of being part of this community of the space and that's also what I'm
thankful for yeah similar one over here really thankful for for our community so all of the
ninja community has been building pretty ferociously in the background.
Everyone's just stepping up.
We've got a chat where the kind of core community members are all chipping in all of their different skills.
And yeah, even through this kind of sideways period, the ninjas are really showing their true colors.
So yeah, really positive, really positive.
yeah, really positive, really positive.
Yeah, I'm really thankful for just,
I feel like over the past three months,
a lot of the leads across a lot of the meme projects
and just the developers as a whole,
I feel like there's been just a lot of
really good cross-functional collaboration.
And it really feels like, yeah,
we're all different projects in the same ecosystem, but it really feels like one larger team
trying to push this ecosystem together rather than
a PVP us versus that mentality. And I think that's really
cool and separates Injective from a lot of other L1s.
I don't really feel that sense of greater community or inter-community
collaboration that you really see here.
So I think that's really cool, and it's really refreshing, and it's what's always kept me
here.
So really thankful for that.
I'm grateful to Injective for bringing very high quality financial applications to anyone
with an internet connection around the world, regardless of price or ranking.
Just excited to be a part of this financial journey.
Love to hear it yeah uh she uh or or kira do you have any uh other words of encouragement here
yeah i just want to say not to sound i've broken record but thankful for the community
um although pa doesn't sometimes show it but a lot of people in the ninja injector community are always here working hard and you can tell just by you know everybody you can
tell the Raiders and artists even the devs everyone is doing something and
they're trying to keep their their spirits alive and it's kind of
infectious because you know once one person sees that another person may do
the same thing and then you just see a whole community just doing it and you just ask yourself why stop now we just got to keep pushing so thankful for
the community that's around injective at the moment nice i am thankful for all the people
that are still here that are still holding injective tokens that are listening to this space that are involved and yeah i'm thankful for for
those that didn't give up yet so that's it yeah thank you thanks you guys i i feel like it's
important to kind of start on a high note and and really you know step back from the day-to-day and
the the price action that you guys mentioned and whatnot.
With that being said, obviously the sort of the joke
or the very real thing of sort of the touching grass, right?
The idea of just taking a break
from everyday sort of price and everyday building to really disconnect
and touch some grass.
What does touching grass mean to you guys, right?
I think there's, you know, maybe a general idea of what people mean when they say that,
but what does that mean to you?
Anyone can jump in here.
To me, I'll take the lead. To me, it means to do something that allows you to recenter yourself and recharge yourself. For everybody, that's different. Me personally, I like to go into nature, a forest or to the beach if there is one. So there's just something with reconnecting with nature
and literally touching grass that helps me to rebalance
and come back stronger.
And also something that I do usually is I work six days a week
and then on Sunday is the touching grass day.
And this usually allows me to to stay composed
and to to be refreshed and to go go for a long time. For me it kind of depends on the season
if it's winter time then it's probably gym and maybe bowling. I really enjoy bowling.
And in the wintertime, or the summertime, sorry,
it's laying in the sun or swimming.
Yeah, Kira mentioned it there, but recharging, that's a big one, right?
everyone gets their energies in different ways but for me for sure it's family and nature
Everyone gets their energies in different ways,
but for me, for sure, it's family and nature.
i can relate to kira with like really taking one day out of the week where you really just
focus on everything else don't go online and don't do stuff and i think especially for builders it's
quite hard and that's something that was very hard for me for a long time to like keep that balance but now I also try to take like one day
or two days on the weekend where I just go out in the nature play some sports do anything besides
being online and I think that also helps you a lot to like clear out your head go into the new
week with fresh motivation fresh energy so
i think it's really important to touch some grass from time to time
i think it's also just getting to know everyone in the ecosystem you know and some of these lulls
when you know when more bullish sentiment comes around it just feels like such a frenzy
and you're just pivoting second to second minute to minute and when it's you know when it's grass
touching season it's a little slower right and it i feel like i've just had a lot more opportunity
to to get to know a lot of you within the ecosystem that's been really cool and i feel like
yeah it's it's still online activity,
but it's different online activity.
It just feels refreshing to commiserate with like-minded folks.
Yeah, I definitely like to stay outside,
but it's really given me a broader opportunity to chat with
a lot of great people in this ecosystem. And that's been
really cool and something I wasn't expecting. Yeah, I definitely want to echo what you were
just saying, Nanja. It's one thing to, I think, be heads down and just grinding away, which,
you know, I think has been sort of paramount the last, you know, call it sort of three to six
months. And now that we're in, you know, maybe a season that maybe it's a little bit more important
for us to be a little bit more collaborative, you know, reach out to people, check in, you
know, sort of take your time in this season, right?
It's not now you've got to ship something, you know, every single day.
And if you're not, you know, you're falling behind.
It's much more of, okay, let's reset.
Let's, you know, recapture our thoughts and see how we can kind of move forward together
and and definitely reaching out to others is super important in that season um with that being said i
did want to sort of bring something up um unless anyone else had any other thoughts on that topic. Yeah, I mean, especially right now, like you said,
reaching out in times where it's difficult, that's very important.
I mean, a lot of people got hurt bad the past months.
Maybe some of you are thinking of someone that you can reach out to,
to ask if everything is okay i think that's a very
healthy practice um to do in in times where it's tough so i just wanted to add my two cents to that
yeah thanks kira i appreciate that um moving on to kind of another topic that i think was really
fun this week and i would love to get kind of your thoughts on it. But this whole idea of this, you know, Studio Ghibli, sort of sweeping the
nation, right? This animated style that was kind of going around Twitter and, you know, people were
sharing pictures of themselves. There was even, you know, I think, kind of a Lord of the Rings
trailer. It was done in kind of a Studio Ghibli style.
I would love your thoughts on, first of all, do you see that this is a benefit to the sort of meme culture?
And maybe also, maybe we'll start there.
Do you think this is kind of a net good, net bad for the ecosystem or or just kind of neutral in general uh i can go first i think it would be like a net good i said this is a ninja
once a long time ago something cool about like their character is that anyone can with like
access to ais can make their own memes using it whereas like with like Benny or Kira it becomes a bit harder for people like
to create their own memes using a character so I think it strengthens existing cultures or
large ones and maybe makes it harder to like break into the art industry but I do think it helps with content generation and engaging your cults or communities.
I think it also helps removing the barrier even more to just start a project or start a meme coin,
start content generation on your personal account like
once say um because like if you want to do like as a serious meme project you need probably a
good designer or someone that could do that in the past um for projects um in the defy space you
would need like developers and i think through ai, regarding the image side now, you can generate such cool content
with any idea you have in your head.
So also a shout out to someone in the community that is now here and thinks about it.
Just go for it.
Just try stuff that you have in your head.
And I think it really helps also expand our space
with more projects, with more content producers,
with more people that are really creative
but didn't have the access to execute this creativity yet.
So I think it's definitely a net positive for our space.
we are not positive for our space.
And kind of a follow-up to that, you know, thinking through the whole Studio Ghibli,
you know, it is actually real IP, right?
I mean, this is being generated and there's an actual sort of company behind that art
style and what kind of made it popular.
You know, I think I saw some
more sort of comments that were towards the, hey, this is, you know, stealing IP or utilizing it in
a way that doesn't give credit to the original sort of, you know, person and company. How do
you guys see that, you know, with regards to IP rights? Do you guys see this as, well, hey, this
is just all fun, you know, it's not really being monetized, so there's no, you know, sort of IP to be claimed here? Or do you actually see it as, you know, potentially damaging to, you know, IPs in the future of let's say there's another style that has been popularized by another studio, and that studio doesn't see, you know, one cent from all the sort of styles being utilized.
you know, one cent from all the sort of styles being utilized.
What's your guys' take?
You know, do you think there should be some sort of monetization mechanism
or do you guys see it more of, hey, this is all fun and play,
you know, there's no damage being done here?
Depends on the situation.
In this case right now, it was a great thing for Studio Ghibli.
It was a huge marketing thing for marketing,
like so many posts, so many mentions of their studio.
And I'm 100% sure that more people watched some of their movies now
over the past days than, for example, two weeks ago.
So I think it depends.
This was definitely good for them and not bad for them,
but I'm sure there are situations where it can be bad.
Maybe someone can speak to that.
I also think that...
This is...
Oh, no, you go, Con.
Okay.
Well, for me, Studio Ghibli had a pretty big impact um in my like late teens i really
like their shows so being able to generate things in that style uh almost made me have
like a closer connection to it um although we did technically monetize it uh it's a homage to
studio ghibli uh and i don't think we're using their IP. None of these characters actually exist.
I don't think you can own an art style.
But maybe I'm wrong.
And I had a debate with someone.
There's a legality compass and a morality compass.
Maybe legally it's not right,
but I think art, when you give it to the world,
is for anyone to use as they see fit.
I don't think you can own an idea
of something. I was going to say, I feel like this is just a question on AI in general in terms of
what are the moral and legal implications of what you're doing with this automation.
And I feel like as long as the intention's the right way and that you're doing
things without trying to like subvert the original creator the original style the original ip
there really is no harm to like the original product right now if you're trying to make
you know spirited away too and get ticket sales from that like that's a whole different story
right but paying homages and art styles and
uh leveraging just how technology changes in a way that isn't really hurting anyone
i i don't see the i don't see anything negative that can come out of that in my opinion
isn't there some law in america where if you like make a parody of something
it's like not technically stealing their ips so you make a parody of something, it's not technically stealing their IPs?
So you can just...
That's exactly it.
That's exactly it.
It's a huge loophole. Well, not loophole,
but it's a major defense of
a lot of copyright law
here.
Yep, yep. You hit the nail on the head uh quants and i think that's why you know let's
give an example you know if if people started generating you know different types of bennies
and using the art style that sort of benny is is using you know i'm sure you'd be thrilled right
it wouldn't be something like oh i gotta now sue to now sue everybody, right? That makes this style. It's, no, we want this to permeate the world, right? And get out and into the mainstream.
So I certainly, you know, sympathize and sort of recognize, you know, your point with regards to
that. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, a meme is only as powerful as its culture and its culture
comes from how it's used, how many people can relate to it or understand it or know
that it is a meme. So yeah, please, if you guys are in here, have ChatGBT, please make
as many memes as you want. You have my full permission.
full permission.
Yeah, that's actually
a good point, Quants.
I'm wondering, or anybody on the audience,
you know, is there a sort of easy
way of, let's say, you know, someone really liked
the Quants style or
the Kira style or any of the other
sort of styles up here,
you know, have you
guys experimented with kind of generating
things via AI like the studio ghibli
you know things with just like one simple prompt of like hey you know make this picture in quant style
or a naja style have you guys experimented with any of that and what what have your results been
uh i have experimented a little bit with that i got a full body like benny and i was trying to
get it to make like comics or memes using it and it had some really really bad ones that i can read out so the first
comics benny reading uh quantitative finance for dummies and the caption is when you read one
chapter of quantitative finance for dummies and then it's benny with a coffee mug right after
saying i've optimized my sharp ratio using vibes and caffeine.
And then I asked it to make another meme and it was just Benny standing and it said, because I really want to buy a house someday.
That was it.
And then it was, I hope the stock market crashes so I can buy the dip.
So I don't think it's, I think it's really good at
like creating art, but maybe not fully understanding like meme contexts. I wanted to make like a,
or find some prompts that I could give the community to use to make their own memes.
But it seems to only really be good at like, I guess, rewriting, rewriting memes. But I haven't
tried it to do in Benny style because I think I would have to train
it, but I think I will do that after.
Yeah. I have failed miserably.
Someone else go.
Oh, go ahead, Nadja. I was just going to say, you know, once you crack the code, you know,
definitely share it because I think that would be an easy way to really scale up kind of content
creation efforts is just say, hey, you know, take some inspiration and then use this prompt or these
prompts and boom, you can start just like a content generation engine that way.
I was going to say, we failed. I have failed miserably trying to replicate not the style but
that I feel like is a unique problem to Nanja and the meme content we've chosen
over the past six to nine months so I feel like that's not a limitation of AI
but rather you know chat GTT not just a good based content in a meme context.
That's a really great point.
Contextual awareness is so key to really have humor land.
I haven't seen AI generation to really nail
that contextual awareness to really get a punchline over the finish line.
I think one of the things it does is help you trial and error.
Like if you're a content creator and you need to do sketches,
then it can give you ideas for like different ways of,
sketching in the same way you just kind of talking about with the
meme that I guess it doesn't really get the context,
but it's starting to give you like ideas for a direction rather
than,
rather than the final,
final product,
which,
I guess is,
it's quite similar to most ways you use it for different types of
product creation. Like you're like recently we were using it to most ways you use it for different types of product creation.
Like recently we were using it to investigate what it thinks, like AI,
how it would develop with cryptocurrency and how the product,
what might evolve from the sector.
And you're just getting different responses from it.
It's interesting ideas, but it helps you build your framework for how to think about a problem or a specific issue.
Kind of along the same vein that we've been discussing here is, you know, the whole idea
of this vibe coding phenomenon. You know, I's it's really kind of kicked off you know maybe you guys
have a different perspective but i really feel like that nomenclature has really started this
year you know 2025 and maybe uh maybe one of you guys could just like define what vibe coding
is and and what it means to you
i think i can start because i do a lot of my coding in my free time. It's just that like
with the AI based coding tools, you can just like express your ideas similarly to the Ghibli
images of what you want to like code. And you don't even need to know how to code but the ai will take it for you
it's not as qualitative and as um yeah as precise as normal coding is but for like fun ideas or like
quick thoughts or brainstorming it's like really great because you can just like type out your
thoughts um and it creates a quick,
quick demo for it. For example, in the beginning of the year,
I bi-coded a small app for my personal use,
track like my crypto trades, my finances,
and have like a similar gamified streak for like tracking my savings and stuff
like that.
Of course I didn't see something in the app store that provides that.
So I just quickly wipe coded it.
And I think it gives people a lot of opportunities to just like quickly build
apps for themselves as well to look, okay, how would my idea look like on,
on the screen?
So I think wipe coding is great stuff.
Just to add some context,
when you say vibe coding,
you mean coding with the help of AI, right?
Yeah, exactly.
You just like, the term comes out of it
that you just like vibe and let your thoughts flow
and just push them into the AI coding
program so you just
vibe flow with the AI so to say
yeah it's crazy what AI
can do it's not perfect yet
when it comes to coding but
it's
really helpful like
it's crazy
yeah I used this app called Alchemist AI, and it's kind of just like a no-code platform.
You prompt it to do something, and it gives you like a webpage.
And me and Jakey used it to compare profile pictures on a Twitter account with a gold
checkmark versus a blue checkmark
so that we could see how it appeared in both and try to find one that matched both sides
and also looked good as a little profile picture on a tweet thread.
So regardless of where you see it, it would look good.
So regardless of where you see it, it would look good.
It was just an easy way rather than designing a layout to compare.
We just asked the AI to do it.
And in two prompts, we were able to plug and play profile pictures and banners.
So that was fun.
Yeah, that's wild.
And you can do even much more than that, like full on games.
You can create websites where users can log in with user profiles and mailing.
And literally you can code everything.
But what I saw it is that sometimes like you tell the AI to do something
and it changes so many things and then it's messed up in the end
and then you like have to undo changes and stuff.
So it's definitely good good but you have to
like it right now it doesn't replace a dev at all yeah i have the same opinion i'd rather
like a developer develop things just like i'd rather an artist develop things like even though
i use chat gbt i'm still i still have my artists hired um i don't think that we're
at a stage where they can be fully replaced um but it's definitely a good tool to use to help with
some like maybe more minor things uh and increase production but not to replace um anything
substantial like i certainly want wouldn't want to hear that Helix is being coded with VibeCoders or anything like that.
But maybe some fun little app would be fine.
Yeah, I mean, I've seen even companies ask, like when they were hiring new people, that you have to use at least 50% of the code that you write
has to come from writing it with AI.
So it's definitely a trend that even employers,
they will tell you, hey, use this technology
because otherwise we're going to be much slower.
So just use it and do a mix of both.
I know some people who got like entry level CS jobs after they graduated and their targets tend to be just how many lines of code they can crank out and not so much like quality based because they're very entry level.
So I think it'll just kind of hurt their systems in the long term if all of their CS people just vibe code.
Because it isn't the most efficient way.
And if they have no full experience, it'll probably hurt them.
And these people are getting paid to do pretty much nothing.
Yep.
One of the memes I think that's been out there for, you know, it seems like almost a decade at this point is the whole idea behind, you know, learn to code, right?
It's now, I think, become a meme.
Do you think we're at the precipice of that no longer being like a successful sort of career path?
Right. What do you guys think of that?
Like, do you think this whole vibe coding will kind of take over that learn to code meme?
Or do you think, you know, there's another meme that might take its place?
meme that might take its place i think what's funny like the even the nvidia ceo said that
he doesn't recommend to learn coding anymore which is pretty crazy to say but um i think like like
how expansionally we are like progressing with ai it's it's, it will have a really hard effect on a lot of
jobs and career paths in the next few years.
So I think learning how to utilize AI in your job or in the work you do would be the thing
that I would recommend into people. I'm going to butcher this comparison,
but I saw someone say that AI to coders is what,
like those, or like farming machinery was to farmers.
And while it might take away a lot of jobs,
it doesn't mean you shouldn't learn how to farm
or curate your own crops.
It just means you should maybe utilize the tools ahead of you
to have higher productions.
I think software engineers might benefit most
because while they'll be able to do the back end
and maybe the more advanced infrastructure,
the vibe coding will be able to assist with UI, UX, design,
kind of help streamline that process.
Just like farming tools helped farmers
streamline their process.
Absolutely, I fully agree.
I think like a bad dev won't become
like a super dev for AI,
but like a cracked dev with the help of AI
will become even more cracked
by saving time, automizing even more,
improving bug fixing even faster,
which is a large part in coding.
So yeah, I'm fully with you on that.
Feels like we're not really we don't
it's all gone so fast
how you can use
chat gpt and what it's
capable of
I don't think I could tell you
what you'd be able to do
with it in two years time
given what they're saying about
ongoing improvements so
yeah i find it i find it tough to even like we're kind of locked in what you can do with it now in
this discussion but god knows what it's going to be like so so i guess with all that being said you
know there's several ideas that were thrown around but but like, what is that career path, right?
I think even like prompt engineer has become a meme at this point, right?
Like we're all going to be prompt engineers and we're just going to, you know, prompt our way to the future.
Is that the case or is there an actual like concrete sort of career path that you'd recommend for, let's say, graduating college students or people that just want to, you know, upskill from maybe another, you know, non-technical role into a more technical
role? What does that path look like, do you guys think? I'll go first. I have no idea.
Could not tell you. But I think if people are just aware of all the changes coming on,
they'll at least have some sort of edge to stay ahead of the curve.
But we don't know where the world's going.
I mean, with AI, wars, Paris, it's kind of a confusing time period. great great take
that's all I got
just white noise that's all that that's the future right there love to hear it well it's also really oh there you go sorry yeah i think it's just important like
um to keep updated to stay in touch with the developments to not like uh fall behind
um i think it should take some time still to replace all jobs but just um staying up to date
seeing okay how can this help me to progress with whatever i'm doing is something that is recommended.
I think there's all like a contextual awareness of even like country from you know like in real life I'm not I'm the furthest thing from a cryptocurrency in real life I'm in healthcare and
AI is touching every industry but it's touching every industry different, right? And it's like the core thing is like staying ahead of the curve, everyone's saying.
Like that curve is like human-centric or AI-insulated career paths,
which is becoming more and more difficult by the day, but they still definitely exist.
You know, coding 5, 10 years ago was probably seen as like an ironclad career point and now it's seen as
very shaky. So I feel like there's industry-specific context, there's country-specific
context to see what's currently going on in your own individual world. And so I feel like that
just creates quite a scatterplot to be able to make a recommendation for, you know, technical versus non-technical career points and like how that intersects with AI development.
to do certain jobs and tasks becomes so much lower and it's so much easier that what I
think will be of such a big value is the attitude that each individual has.
So because let's say you like, OK, I will use this AI now to do this job.
But you don't even like it
like you're not passionate about the topic you don't care about it at all then if you use another
if you take another individual that has a great attitude is positive optimistic and brings good
energy to the to the rest of the team and the co- he can do the same thing. You know, it's the same AI, but that person now has a much better attitude.
So I think obviously people will want to keep that person.
So I think attitude and the way that you feel and whatever, yeah,
and how you make other people feel, I think that's something that will be of huge value
because simply the skill level is similar for most with AI.
If that makes any sense.
I don't know if any of you got what I want to say.
Yeah, I would agree with you. I think passion
means a lot. I mean, if you're not passionate
about art and you use AI to create art, it's probably not going to be as good
as someone who is passionate about art. There's also been a lot of people talking about how
artists that adopt AIs are a bit more ahead of the curve than artists
that don't, because the AI doesn't steal the creative process from them,
just maybe helps them create things at a much faster pace.
But I also think we haven't seen any of these AIs get hacked
and how the world might change
if these centralized AIs maybe don't help with the code.
And you ask it to do maybe a big part of your project
and it just adds a little bug into it.
And then it exploits that later on.
I think crypto might see that the most,
but maybe other companies might see data leaks from that.
And if that does happen, will people just stop using
AIIs at that point? Or will it just, or will they develop their own for their own companies?
But, you know, anything online can be hacked. So.
Interesting.
Definitely something to think about.
I do want to open up the space for community questions.
So if you want to speak, feel free to request to speak, and we'll bring you up here.
But I do want to address kind of the elephant in the room with you guys and just explore sort of what's next. But we do know, for instance,
like PumpFun graduated token volume
is like way down from where it was at the peak
in November and January of this year.
And it's harder to stand out, right?
As a meme token
and to be able to really create that audience.
Now that sort of the the pump fund graduated token volume is is way down what what's the next meta right what's the
next way to really scale um you know a meme project if someone wanted to start one today
like like where would you advise them to maybe start with and and how to you know create mindshare right because at the end of the day like
a lot of you guys have said is is you know meme tokens thrive off of mindshare and so
how would you advise a new meme project on um you know where to start today and and how to
kind of scale their communities I guess I can go. I'm still figuring that out myself. So take a grain of salt. But I think
it's really just knowing the people that you're kind of creating it for and or maybe even just
creating it for yourself and kind of collect people along the way but a meme has to resonate
with people and if it doesn't resonate with anyone and you don't have I guess an audience to
kind of start that um start that snowball then maybe focus on just connecting as a person with
other people and then bring that meme coin later on
obviously a lot of meme coins and crypto assets and all assets are driven by speculation
but there still has to be something underlying that attracts people to it
yeah i think um for me it's uh it's about uh looking at what's already there and and and
building on existing ecosystems because if you just you know what's the reason why you're setting
up that meme what is the what is the uh cause what is the thing that drives you because if
there's already an existing ecosystem like i know that we do this at ninja i know quants do this and others like
most of us in our communities would be open to new ideas and new directions so really you could
just go and leverage an existing community and build build inside that one instead of instead
of like creating a whole entire new system and and pump fun kind of kind of shows that right
it's to the extreme like you you don't need to have loads and loads and loads more um it's about going back to your roots and really understanding why you're doing what
you're doing and connecting to others in the existing ecosystem very well put yeah i think
you know something that ai cannot replace, is personal relationships and personal connections.
Like that is something that will never be able to be replicated in my mind, uh, by an AI, uh,
at least anything short term. And, you know, that is certainly a competitive advantage,
right. For, for any project that's out there is that, you know, if you, if you are actively sort
of building and, and going out there and there and standing for something that people resonate with, you're going to stand out no matter what.
People that resonate with that are going to want to follow along because people want to be a part of communities that resonate with their deep sort of moral values and the way they kind of stand in the world.
So I certainly want to echo what's been said here.
With that being said, guys,
I don't see any community questions here,
but I do want to open up the stage to anybody that,
any sort of last thoughts or questions or topics
you guys want to address,
happy to kind of open the floor for that.
All right.
Maybe.
Oh, go ahead, Kira.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just I remember that Nonja wanted to say something in the beginning when we were talking about touching grass and why are you laughing?
Do you still have to say something about that or a message that you want to give to people, you know, holding to the pain or I don't know. But I think you unmuted yourself and then, and then yeah.
Yeah, I said this a lot throughout the community that, you know, every day that we stand together and endure is a victory, right? There's times where over the summer it was me talking
with one or two people uh at weeks at a time right and but every day that you stick around
for the ecosystem is uh is a win right and uh i feel like that's a foundation that
really starts to build core communities uh during better times and I feel like
that's something that we do across the ecosystem and it's something that really shouldn't be
overlooked because it's it's not glamorous and it's not necessarily you know like a
groundbreaking feature but it is one that is much more unshakable. You know, Nanja and I feel like a lot of other,
the top memes here have a very rigid floor
that people do not sway their positions easily.
And I feel like that's a testament
to people wanting to endure and continue to be a part
of this dialogue, this discourse, this community.
And that really can't be overlooked, so.
I agree with that. And I want to say also that we all know how quick things can change
for the better. Like even at times when it looks so bad and so, you know, hopeless, things
can change for the better so quickly. So yeah, don't give up and keep that in mind.
Even when things look hard,
they can be much better all of a sudden.
So that's it.
Thanks, guys.
Let's end with this.
How are you guys going to be touching grass today?
You know, what does that look like?
I'm going to be touching grass today you know what what does that look like i'm going to sleep i'm going bowling i just got back home from the gym so i'm going to sleep as well
i don't know what it is in c. It's 77 degrees here in America.
So we're going to be outside.
Yeah.
I mean, I touched grass yesterday, so I'm good.
But I'll just work on my things.
How about you, Rocky? You know, I have some weeds in my front yard that I'll probably touch. They look like grass. They're not quite grass, but I'll make it work. And then I
think because it's a nice sunny day, I'll go on a nice little walk around the block and, you know,
clear the mind and get some vitamin D from that sun.
Cause guess what?
That's free vitamins right from other nature for you.
So that's, that's what I'm headed to do.
So unless anybody has any kind of final words, we can,
we can wrap it up here.
And we enjoyed the it up here.
Enjoy the wheat cutting
session.
Hey, thank you.
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Really appreciate it.
Yeah, thanks, guys.
Thank you. Have a good day, guys.
We'll catch you next time
on New Monday, you guys.
Let's regroup for awesome Q2
starting tomorrow so
uh hope everyone has some time to touch some grass and um with that we will catch you on the
next episode take care y'all
let's go Thank you.
