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🌈 Memes and Dreams - The Road Ahead
Recorded: Aug. 29, 2025 Duration: 1:16:48Space Recording
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Thank you. Hey, hello.
Hello.
Hello. Can you guys hear me?
Hey, Ivan.
Hi, Andrew. How's it going? Let's give it another like two, three minutes for people to start joining and get the speakers on panel. But yeah, let's give it two, three minutes and get started.
All right, cool.
Let me find something to listen to while we're at.
Okay. Thank you. uh
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Give a little bit, give a little bit of my life for you. Oh you okay all right let me see uh because i'm on my phone as a co-host and I'm on the computer as a host with DogeChain account,
but I think that people are dropping off as speakers.
Andrew, can you still speak?
I see a request.
Oh, by the way guys uh i'm back online welcome back anybody that wants to speak ask questions yeah don't don't uh hesitate to uh
to raise a hand and uh request a right to speak i'll pull you up in the panel
anyway happy friday everybody i know it's a different time than we usually do these pieces
but uh trying to accommodate a little bit different parts of the world for the team
uh and yeah welcome back it's been a while a while. It's a, we're still here.
We're still building. Uh, Andrew is here to, uh, talk to you about, uh, some,
some of the stuff that he's building for dot chain, which are pretty exciting.
Uh, and I'm excited to talk about, uh, all of these, uh, new projects that are,
that we're incubating asating as the chain as well plus uh i'm
excited to talk about uh with you a little bit about the market a little bit about all the doge
narratives that they're like developing as we speak uh in the last few months that we didn't actually cover. But anyway, very, very excited to be back here on this basis with you guys.
Penny, welcome.
Can you do a quick mic check?
Yeah, testing, testing.
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah, sure, sure.
I can hear you loud and clear.
Awesome, awesome.
We can get started then, slowly but surely. How's everybody going? Yeah, sure. I can hear you well and clear. Awesome. Awesome. We can get started then.
Slowly but surely. How's everybody going?
Yeah, great. First order of business. What do you want to talk about, Ivan?
Oh, let's talk a little bit about DogeChain itself and what we have in plan, like in the first things that they're going to be pushed on Doge chain as like real product market fit products for a chain of memes and dreams, like, uh, uh, I'll, I'll let you present the, a little bit, the, the
two different things that you wanted to speak about.
So it's, uh, it's quite exciting, I think.
Yeah.
We have two different kinds of launch pads coming to Doge chain.
One is a standard launch pad, typical of any other launchpad on any other chain.
It's totally on Dogechain, and the coins graduate to quick swap on Dogechain.
But secondly, we have another launchpad, which will also be completed in a similar timeframe,
where it's actually a centralized launch pad.
So rather than being on chain,
the bonding curve and the pre-bonding trading is centralized.
And then at a certain market cap, let's say a hundred K market cap,
it will then be graduated to those on QuickSwap EVM. And the reason why we did this is because
one of the biggest UX pain points of DogeChain was our bridge.
Like, it's hard to bridge proof-of-work Doge into our bridge
and then send it out.
And it's just a lot of friction and a lot of users lost there.
And so what's interesting about this launchpad is you can actually just deposit Dogecoin
straight into it.
And when the coins graduate, they will be automatically behind the scenes, bridge to
Dogechain, and you get wdoge without doing anything
and it's just this the killer like feature here is just that users that have dogecoin
can just deposit doge trade into meme coin trading without bridging so hopefully we save
folks a lot of time and we get a lot more of those like coinbase
and robin hood users that have idle doze trading meme coins and as we build these things we want to
we'll have opportunities for the the community to chime in and voice in on how they want to see these products built but we're looking at approximately
about a one to two week timeline for both of them being sipped and done and ready so it's it's pretty
exciting no definitely very exciting and uh of course we we we would like to hear uh from the community whether it's in the in the telegram chat
or in comment here in the in the spaces thread or just you know reach us out reach out to us or speak
right on this panel give us some feedback on what would you act more uh like uh precisely would like
to see uh within these launch pads, uh,
eventually once we have like a, a full feature list that we will share,
we can still, you know, discuss with the community.
So we have, uh, an input from the community on, on, uh, on how this is built
and what the actual community, the actual Doge chain community wants with these
things, uh, which is an important part of a community driven chain
like Doge chain.
Andrew spoke a little bit about the friction of Doge,
which is a bit sad, just on a side note like this,
to see that Doge holders haven't really evolved
into the meme coin traders that we would have liked to see that uh doge holders haven't really evolved into the the the meme coin traders
that we would have liked to see instead it's eth and soul holders that that evolved into uh meme
dgens which is a little bit weird because you know the og meme is still doge but uh we kind of
realized over time that the og uh doge holders are not very DeFi savvy.
They don't know how to bridge onto chains, et cetera.
So with this, what Andrew is trying to do
is to make it a lot simpler point of access
for a launchpad of this kind,
instead of starting bridging in,
trying to think about liquidity, et cetera.
You know, everything is done in the background here from what I understand.
So it should remove a lot of the friction
that specifically Doge holders were facing,
like mainstream users and Doge holders
were facing with Doge Chain,
which are some of the things we're trying to address here
with these incubated projects.
Yeah, I think you nailed it
when you address just the amount of complexity
it is to use bridges and layer twos
and all these things like changing your RPC
and going in and out of bridges,
being careful of bridge fees.
And it's just a huge headache.
I think that as we move into world global adoption of crypto, we just can't afford to
afford to have all this user friction so it's pretty awesome um this this launch pad you just
have all this user friction.
So it's pretty awesome.
send dogecoin so uh you don't have to think about anything and then you're you're just straight on
dogechain from there so um looking looking forward to it um what do you guys want to talk about or
hear about like um penny have any ideas or anyone want to write anything in the group chat about what kind
of questions or comments or any topics of discussion feel free to chime in yeah i just
came up with an idea in my head right now um just kind of uh based on what you were saying
it would be super cool if we created kind of a mechanism or a bot on X where users could just simply send their Doge through the MyDoge app or another wallet.
And then they can buy that meme coin directly from X if that's possible.
from like x if that's possible just an idea i'm throwing out there
Just an idea I'm throwing out there.
yeah um well i think for us to be integrated with my doge wallet we would have to support um
doge os as a graduation option aside from doge's possible. Obviously, we're very close friends with them.
And Axiom, they'll integrate us as long as we have traction
and we have a direct line of contact there as well.
And offboarding, someone wrote in the chat, Nick, bridging out.
Yeah, so basically it works kind of like a centralized exchange would, where you have
your balances and you just withdraw your balances from the exchange, basically.
But when you withdraw your dogecoin, it will come out as wdoge, so everything is bridged
automatically.
So, yeah.
Yeah, and anything else, Penny? Did you have some other feedback
on the product that Andrew outlined?
No, just more details on it would be good
because it's a little bit vague at this stage, I guess.
So is it going to be more geared towards meme coins
or is it going to have an AI twist to it?
Is there going to be a central theme
or anything unique other than the mechanism
that you've already stated
that's going to make this platform stand out more than others?
I think that the character of the projects
will take a life of its own
as we launch and get adoption.
But I see it going many different ways.
I think there's a chance people might build and launch serious startup kind of apps
or just meme coins or just Doge-related jokes.
Yet to be determined.
So we made it a priority that deposits are instant
or as instant as it possibly can be.
But as for withdrawals,
we will get back to you on how fast the system can process that.
Okay, that makes sense. Okay. I'm kind of bullish on that because it gives the community an opportunity to
really kind of shape the platform and have some type of, you know,
influence over how the features are built out according to what the community
wants. I think that's pretty dope yeah sounds good and ben asked could that all-in-one technology
be used for meme coins that are already on those chain um unlikely because this is essentially like
a pump fund or any kind of bonding curve launchpad but like basically
it's a virtual launchpad so it's
centralized it's not actually
on chain
there's
no way to really like offer
liquidity for existing coins but
it's a great way to launch
coins if you
don't have any liquidity like you don't have any liquidity,
like you don't have any liquidity you want to supply to a 50-50 AMM.
So the purpose is to kind of launch coins without liquidity.
And we can definitely build an app for it on the App Store
if we get enough traction, it's possible.
So Apple is starting to accept crypto apps.
So, yeah.
Sorry, I just had one more question, I guess.
Do you think that this, like the centralized nature of this could potentially help with problems in the space concerning tokens being sniped at launch?
Is this going to provide some type of protection against that in some way?
No, I mean, essentially, the sniping problem is really, really, like, fundamentally flawed with, like, the bonding curve, like, the concept of a bonding curve.
these AMMs provide liquidity. Any which way you change or twist the formula, you're still going
to have people who benefit from buying the supply early, and it's just pretty much unavoidable.
One thing we can do, though, is make it harder for the price to go up, meaning that it requires
more money, more doge, to have an impact on the price. But regardless, it's kind of an unavoidable problem that you're going to have people buying basically cheaper than the people that buy later.
So it's a bit hard to kind of solve for that problem. The only other type of liquidity in crypto that I think that really avoids this type of Ponzi-like stair-stepping ladder of trading is Hawley market and prediction markets, because those are mostly peer-to-peer liquidity trading against each other.
So it's kind of just an unvoidable thing if we're using bonding curves and AMM stuff.
But maybe we'll offer less steep bonding curves so it doesn't benefit the early buyers as much.
That's all of a possibility.
And so keep in mind, this whole launchpad is centralized.
So it doesn't settle on chain.
So it's super fast and settles instantly compared to any other launch pad um solana's fast um
it's and using it using pump fun with axiom is very fast um but this will be um a similar
user experience if not faster because we're not settling on blockchain until it bonds and migrates
so yeah instant trading.
Yeah.
In addition, let's not forget that it uses quick swap
for graduation, which is unestablished, you know, decks.
for graduation which is uh unestablished uh uh you know decks and uh the thing is that
what i've we already had like a a very minor launch uh function of for launching coins uh
on doge chain with the build a doge, feature that we integrate like a year and a half
ago or something like that. But what we know is, was that even though that people can create the
coin, there's still the liquidity problem. And, uh, you know, you have to pocket the initial
liquidity, which was another friction point for a lot of uh smaller uh communities that
wanted to launch their own coin and this is uh essentially a good way to uh to do that without
liquidity and you know it shows the interest the coin will have before it graduates so if it graduates there will be
eventually buyers uh instead of like locking liquidity burning it etc and then you it nothing
happens with it and you're stuck with uh a thousand dollars for somebody you know that wants just to
launch a coin for fun it's uh it's a costly uh endeavor just to get started. This should be also, I guess,
a way to hop over that barrier.
yeah so any other questions about about it most of the uh core technology and functioning product
is built so it's um it shouldn't be too long until we get to play with it all
yeah um anything ivan what else uh you you think we will be helpful to talk about
yeah since since the launchpad uses doge let's talk a little bit more about
doge because in this cycle it's it's been a little bit calmer than in others
but it usually that's what happens with doge you know it struggles a little bit
and in the end it just you know it goes to the moon with Doge, you know, it struggles a little bit and in the end it just, you know, it goes to the moon.
But in the meantime, you know, it remains that Doge is one of the earliest altcoins ever to exist and it's the first meme coin, which gives it this Lindy effect, uh, feature that, that Doge has.
And, uh, it's lasting appeal, holding the top 10 for, for more than a decade now.
It's, uh, it's interesting to see that we're still using Doge.
We're here with Doge chain.
So we're, we're still pushing the adoption using Doge. We're here. We're Doge-chain. So we're still pushing the adoption of Doge.
But it's also a coin that has such an important place in the market in general.
Yeah.
I think that every crypto blockchain that has organically made secure, decentralized consensus is extremely precious.
And that goes for Bitcoin, it goes for Ethereum, and it also goes for Dogecoin.
And probably fourth in ranking would be Litecoin.
And so I see particularly those first three coins in a different class of their own. any future blockchains to have this organic network effect and just decentralized consensus,
secure consensus. Just the societal adoption that happened around these chains, how long ago they
started, it's like once in a lifetime kind of thing. So I think that Ethereum, Doge, they may underperform against Bitcoin at certain times of whatever part of the cycle we're in. just due to the reasoning that these are really like the only decentralized, very decentralized and proven over time networks and chains,
they're going to prove to be very valuable and they're going to have periods of massive outperformance over Bitcoin.
So I just think that's on the horizon.
And when that happens for Doge, it's kind of going to be the same thing we've seen all over again with the early days of Doge chain.
People are going to want to use their Doge.
They're going to want to trade meme coins.
There's going to be mass panic and FOMO to buy Doge on all of the particularly American exchanges.
I anticipate Coinbase, Robinhood, just because of Elon's
influence and Elon's
American audience as well.
And hopefully
we're ready. And so this launchpad we're
building hopefully positions
us properly for that wave
because people don't have to
bridge their Dogecoin. They could just deposit
straight into our thing, our
exchange, and they can just start trading and making meme coins immediately what do you think guys uh about the recent uh
you know takeover of monero from uh cubic mining ai mining company, which successfully achieved to take over 51% of the mining of Monero.
Now they're turning their focus onto Doge.
So how could this impact Dogecoin in the long or short and long term?
Whether
they can like reorg
blocks or stuff like that.
It didn't happen on Monero, but you know, Dogecoin it was something that
Dogecoin was something that Monero successfully attacked.
Cubic successfully attacked Monero.
So it's always a concern for Doge that this could come around to bite us as well.
Did they successfully attack it though? I mean, the reports that I've seen kind of peg it at,
like they only reached around 30 something percent as opposed to the claimed 51% that they achieved.
And yeah, to do with like what I think about it,
I'm going to post a comment by somebody on it in the jumbotron that I totally agree with on the situation
Let me just find it. But yeah, that's just what I wanted to say
Yeah, so from what I'm seeing here on Monero they
Managed 2.3
giga hashes per second and the rest is
more than that. So yeah, you're probably right that it's not like 50% with me, but we could quickly calculate.
All right.
Yeah, from what I'm seeing seeing they didn't actually get like 50 more like 40 something like
that 35 40 so uh they still control like most of the pools on the monero network and uh i'm not sure
that they can do the same with doge because doge is much more
decentralized there's a lot of uh nodes that uh mine litecoin which is extremely popular
i'm not saying monero is not popular but it's a niche privacy coin that has uh
privacy coin that has uh its supporters but not many people do mine it for uh a bunch of reasons
because uh it's heavily uh it's not difficult there's a lot of friction on on how to uh how
to get rid of it if you want to sell it etc on centralized exchanges is very difficult. So you have to do all the CDOs, et cetera. So unlike Doge, which is like mass adoption,
super popular coin where anybody can mine it
when an ASIC, especially that Litecoin miners
get it as a side product of Litecoin mining.
I don't think it's going to be that easy for Cubic
to do such an attack on Dogecoin
as they did with Monero.
I think the mechanism that they're using
to try and essentially convert people into buying cubic or selling their assets
into cubic is interesting in the sense that if we really wanted to fuck cubic up we could do the same
thing to them is just create another token that piggybacks off of theirs and kind of reverse
engineer engineers it and does the same thing to them
that would be a cool project to actually start just to fuck around and find out so to say
um i'd be up for that in the future
by the way while we were speaking i just I just opened the charts and Bitcoin just fell under $109K.
Stop selling Bitcoin, guys. It's stupid.
Don't do it.
Hold on to it.
It's a Friday, you know.
It's a Friday, you know, always the turmoil before the weekend.
Always the turmoil before the weekend.
Just some of the usual stuff that happens on a Friday.
I got a question.
Here we go again.
What do you guys think about Doge Chain and gaming?
Is everybody who likes DogeChain into gaming, is that something they're interested in?
Do you guys have an answer?
Is there general interest in gaming for the DogeChain community?
That's my question.
Why not?
It's always a great thing. i think it can attract some more users
and we had nothing uh gaming related at this moment so yeah okay i'm personally a gamer and I love gaming but
For now I've been in like working blockchain for more than a decade now
And I haven't ever found an appealing game that I want to actually continue playing and that's in some way
Finalized on blockchain playing directly on blockchain blockchain, I think that was like the 2020, 2021 dream
that never came true.
You know, the metaverses and the games within,
everything on blockchain is just not possible technically
currently as things stand.
However, I think that there's a lot of place for, for digital ownership in games.
And there's no better place for, for that when you, than blockchain and
especially a blockchain where finality is quick, like Dogechain and gas is very, very cheap and almost negligible considering.
Well, what I've found with the gaming people, the people that make like blockchain games is they're kind of, you know, blockchain agnostic.
I mean, whatever is popular, whatever is going to bring in users
they'll make concessions for it like i'm involved in one that well i i play one and i build on one metaverse game where they do base network they do polygon network they do ethereum and uh
probably soon to be solana and they've already got all these, like, you know,
profile pic, you know, communities involved with it.
And, you know, you could already make quests and stuff
to give out rewards and everything.
And, you know, my contention is that
if I were to, like, do something like that on Doge Chain,
I'm just, you know, I'm'm just not going to get enough people interested.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know if Doge Chain people are more about trading and just trying to make a quick buck,
or if they actually do want to hold on to something and get rewards based on it and actually play the game and build up the metaverse game as well.
So I'm just...
You know, it's just...
I don't want to waste my time
helping build something
and then it just falls flat
and nobody's really interested in it.
That was my question.
I mean...
You know... What i can tell you
on this what i can tell you is that the the node chain community is pretty versatile and um diverse
meaning that uh there's a lot of different types of of of people that uh that are on the chain
whether they're like most of them are are in it for the
the meme and the fun of it and of course making a a a buck because this is let's not kill ourselves
this is work guys blockchain is a serious business but uh there's definitely interest in gaming, I can assure you. The issue with this is that all the games
that kind of started off never got finished from what I saw. All the projects got abandoned
midway. So it's difficult to judge on the the interest based on this you know okay
all right so how how would i start out i mean what's what's a good way to start with the sort
of thing like make i guess i'd make like a pfp like thing and then um you know get people
you know and then whoever has it like gets rewards and stuff like you know you can create
avatars and different you know weapons that they can use within the game um or like
i don't know i mean maybe maybe i should sit down and talk to somebody like privately about this and
just you know rather than wasting time wasting time on the chat right now.
I definitely have a lot of thoughts on this.
My service is fine.
So I used to build in Web2 startups.
And in the early days, Andrew Chen, who's like a popular thought leader in virality and user acquisition, used to be a bit of a person I would brainstorm with.
And basically, I think of things through like boiling it down to user acquisition,
user acquisition costs, and virality.
costs and viral virality. And I think that it's just hard for, like, there's no doubt that a
really great game like Grand Theft Auto or something could use blockchain in their game,
and we would have, like, endless amounts of users. That certainly can happen. But for,
That certainly can happen.
But for a game to basically, I think, go viral,
I think it's really hard.
And the reason why we've seen meme coins
get a lot more adoption
is just because these are products
that are inherently very very viral you build a
meme coin you tell you tell other people to buy it and price goes up and uh it either dies or
it kind of catches some reflexivity wave where more people want to share it and it just becomes
this this very viral product and um and we've seen this type of virality in other crypto use cases like ico
communities kind of like um nfts um and i could just to walk back in history um and so i i think
that it's just it's just a lot it's just very hard to to get somebody onboarded into a game
and then basically juggle however you paid for that user,
whatever the advertising or user acquisition costs,
juggle that with the revenue the game is making.
And then once the user's in the game,
we have to figure out a way
for that game to just become
shareable and viral
it's just a lot to overcome
and by the time
you cross all those bridges
I think that the game is going to
seriously outperform
something that's as viral and lightweight
as like a meme coin
or like launchpad product where you just,
you just make these basically these tokens and you just, um, shoot them around the internet.
And, um, that's the product basically, but, um, Ivan, you're, you're a gamer. So what do you
think? Like, um, what's your opinion on like, uh, the, the gamer audience? Like how do they go,
how did they come across like discovering games?
Like, and what's the difference between like, yeah.
There's like two different worlds
that kind of intersect eventually,
which is the AAA, you know,
big budget blockbuster stuff and the indie scene.
Now, in the last few years, we see a lot of indie games become very popular,
and grabbing a whole bunch of uh of the the uh the product uh and the public through uh like a single
developer or a team of five making a really good uh enticing game uh with good gameplay doesn't
have to be like incredible graphics or anything but really good stuff like Volatro, you know, Vampire Survivors,
a bunch of good games like that, that like achieved virality, but most of these get virality through influencers and gamers, like streamers, et cetera. So if the game is good, even if it's
not very known, it's not from a known publisher or anything like that it
will get some eyes on it uh in today's uh scene because you know um let's say uh streamers they
they do a good amount of work for that for uh for for the gaming community because uh
for, uh, for, for the gaming community because, uh, they, they managed to, uh, to push unknown
products into the mainstream like that.
Uh, from what I've seen, like these gamers that are open to like new gameplay, uh, ideas,
et cetera, they could be open to like blockchain ownership, et cetera, to, to an extent, uh, why I'm saying to an extent,
because a lot of the, uh, gaming community is against NFTs is completely against,
uh, uh, you know, anything blockchain related, uh, product ownership, et cetera.
So you have a very small niche of already like established gamers that are, are,
uh, uh, interested in, in, in this type of thing.
So what you're doing when you're creating a game on blockchain is that you're
catering on the gamers that are already on blockchain or the gamblers or the
people that want to like, um do a quick buck okay so
so hold that thought because you're right i mean by by trying to target doge chain i am only trying
to you know um target people that are blockchain related and um you know are those people willing to go to a website download the game
onto onto their computer it's a metaverse game and then you know log in and just play the game
on their browser you know on their computer you know it's um it's just a client based game
and you know willing to get rewards and stuff in like avatars and stuff
hopefully eventually on the doge chain if they ever integrate the blockchain
um that's my question are people willing to do that in doge chain um i i don't i don't expect
you guys to have numbers or anything but it's's like, I mean, what's your feeling on that?
Are they willing to download the game? Because the capability is already there.
I'm not building anything.
I'm just trying to build, like, my role would be to, like, build up a community and, like, have, you know, events and stuff as this metaverse game also builds into their, you know, into their online,
you know, into their product, into their game, you know, because it's always changing.
I think, first of all, we need to get the volume up on those chains. The number of users have to
get up before even talking or thinking about creating uh creating the game so it's not there's
nothing to create it's more like creating the community like yeah uh if you like if you hold
like a certain nft in your wallet like i'm assuming it'd be like a polygon doge doge chain polygon um
nft in your wallet you can get access to download and claim and mint
you know certain things that capability is already there i'm not building anything
i'm trying to just integrate doge chain into it rather than make something like that on polygon
or solana because i've seen a ton of those because all you need to do is
because I've seen a ton of those.
Mm-hmm.
Because all you need to do is...
Mm-hmm.
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
I just, sorry, I interrupted somebody.
I was just going to say
that it's kind of a catch-22 scenario, right?
Like, you need to build something
and then test the market
and see how the market responds.
If you build, people will come.
So I don't think that you can predict whether something will have stickiness or not,
or if people will be interested or not, unless it's already up. But before you even do that,
the main blocker you should be looking at is whether DogeChain in the first place can be
integrated into this metaverse or already existing system or not. That's going to be the biggest
barrier that I think you have first and foremost. And then once that's cleared,
because you're going to have to look at,
is it going to work from a practical standpoint
in terms of the chain interacting with the system?
Is there going to be any latency issues?
Can the chain handle what the product is looking to do
and how it executes?
So all those questions need to be answered first.
And I would address those first.
And then it's just simply, you know, putting things on paper,
your vision, coming up with a roadmap and plan,
coming up with a mechanism for users to be part of the vision you're trying to build
and get the community involved.
And, you know, so, yeah, that's basically the way I see it,
how you should be.
That's how I would be looking at it, at this stage at least.
Okay.
No, you have a good point kind of do like a test run as well as create that
roadmap to like see to make sure i'm you know to basically have a plan of where i'm going
yeah and then you can further gauge from that you know what the uh community's opinion is on it and
whether they're interested or not whether whether it jives with them,
if they're excited, etc. I mean, that's only something you'll get once something's already
up. You need to kind of test this in real time from the market itself, gather feedback, and then
take those results or the feedback that you've, you've, you've gained and then adapt accordingly or just iterate. Right.
Yeah. Okay.
So I can run like a small test pilot and promote it a little bit and just see
where that takes me.
Yeah. And any like theoretically,
any of the work that you're doing is not like, even if it's not capable of executing properly on DogeChain, it's still not really work that didn't provide any value, right?
You can still adapt everything that you're creating for something else, right?
So it's not yeah yeah
okay all right yeah i mean because like i said i mean i i just believe blockchain gaming is just
going to go in a route that it's all blockchain agnostic and that the coders of the game will
just eventually get the you know somehow get all blockchains, whoever, you know, would bring them in more users,
you know, because I'm seeing Ape Chain get involved, you know,
they've got like a whole marketing campaign.
Eventually Solana is getting to get in there.
So I just think it's, why doge chain you know i think it would be really really
easy frankly because polygon's already in there so um okay cool and technically i mean you'd have
a first mover advantage too right since there's no uh live gaming right now on doge chain this would position
you perfectly to uh capture the majority of the market in that regard at least so
there's opportunity when you look at it from that perspective i'd say okay cool all right
thanks i just on the subject of games,
I guess I know a lot more about mobile games
and how they deliver that type of gambling,
short-term dopamine rush,
and how they scale their user acquisition with, like, mobile ads,
and that's how they scale and grow.
But it's very rare for for games and mobile to like be
inherently viral as in the users are actually in there getting another user to play with them
we saw like the only example i can think of is like uh draw something that was like super viral
for like two weeks like i don't know 10 years ago or something like that but ivan would you would you say that for like console games like those those are serving kind of a different demographic
of people that are looking for those type those types of titles um because i just think that the
challenge with the blockchain games is it's hard to get something that is as frictionless viral virality as possible
um and um and compared to other types of you know token products and communities
that's where the friction lies but just the interesting thing about the crypto industry is
that it's like a hive mind venture capital ecosystem
where big experiments like this are seriously funded and given a shot.
And there's people that want to invest in the vision.
So whether it's gaming or anything else in the future,
I'm confident that crypto will play out
kind of like a hive mind VC where people
want to see if this
hypothesis or thing could
work. But Ivan, how would
you define
what the
behavior of
console and major title
game users and buyers are like?
It's a work in progress
in what blockchain people
are like still, you know, researching what people want.
For example, Sui just recently launched their like
a handheld console, like similar to Steam Deck,
but with blockchain capabilities.
There was some hype there there uh there are
some people that actually wanted it uh to play the actual blockchain games other just bought it just
to play like normal games not even interested in the in the in the games but there seems to be
at least a small like intersection of both worlds uh and um i think that eventually i think
it's it's early to say but eventually people will uh get interested as as we see more more like mass
adoption of blockchain technology in general we'll see them more uh more and more interested in that type of game.
Yeah.
Well, people are talking about why don't we build
a OnlyFans meets DogeChain product in our main chat.
OnlyFurries.
Interesting.
We can do it.
Maybe we should do it in the future.
The first
OnlyFans creator makes a million
dollars in Dogecoin
by transferring
their...
What is OnlyFans?
It's, you know,
let's say
a way for people to let's say,
a way for people to get subscribers,
you know, like a platform where they can share content and get paid for it.
It's not like something, what you do with it,
it's that's like a different thing.
But currently I think it is what that's like a different thing but currently uh i think it's uh it is what it is
as a product it's not something that's impossible to create on doge chain it would be awesome man
because like think about it people could tip in doge or w doge or even dc right for any type of
content and you can create content about anything and do live streams
right so if you're like like even if you're into gaming and stuff and you're uh going through a
map beating a difficult boss or or showing like some cheats um you know what i mean like could
be anything right and it like a platform like that isn't even on crypto that i
know of yet so and i think that that's like a huge opportunity as well for i mean like i'm surprised
only fans doesn't have a token already and uh is building that into their platform so
well i i have some interesting stats i can't disclose the sources, but Dogecoin is actually one of the most popular cryptocurrencies for deposit amongst American online crypto casinos.
It's Tether, it's Ethereum, it's Bitcoin, and surprisingly, it's Doge and Litecoin.
And the reason why I mention that is because OnlyFans,
a lot of its success comes from American users.
And so there might be some overlap in demographic here where it's Dogecoin, OnlyFans, etc.
But just like, yeah yeah we can definitely build this after we ship the launch pads i it's uh just something interesting about only fans is i i looked into it a bit and just
the power law distribution of the the the very famous and successful creators versus
the people at the bottom it's it's it's, it's, it's really, really a pyramid, um, of distribution.
Uh, you may have seen the viral clip of Sophie rain, making more than LeBron,
LeBron James per year.
And, um, yeah, and it's, it's real.
It's the district, the, the like pyramid like distribution is, is real.
And the power law distribution is super real and really surprising.
Personally, I think the psychological appeal of OnlyFans
is folks want to...
They believe in the dream of being able to have
a one-to-one chat experience
or something that is even more personalized to them.
It's not all about the photos.
But we should build one for DogeChain.
And the news would be this OnlyFans influencer
was doing so poorly and then switched to Dogecoin
and is like a millionaire
or making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month
or something like that.
Which I feel is possible
since Dogecoin is so popular
as just a
cryptocurrency.
It's a funny idea.
Funny is what gets attention.
And attention is everything.
Right?
We live in an attention based world now i think
especially on blockchain it's uh it's such a fleeting thing uh to get the virality thing going
on uh in in in this uh in this space you know it's it's really a lightning in a bottle and
it's really difficult to reproduce
well i know what i'm talking about but because we had the exact same thing uh happened on blockchain
and it's sometimes just you don't know why it happens the things click uh together and
it just happens you know that's what we had with Dogechain. It was such a crazy launch.
When we actually did launch the chain, there were like hundreds and hundreds of coins created,
like 10,000 different coin creators that just hop onto the chain.
creators that just hop onto the chain was a crazy thing.
It was a crazy thing.
Well, it's very interesting to see how you can,
you know, actually do this again.
And yeah, I agree that it's a, we live in an attention world.
If you don't have the attention from everybody at the same time,
have the attention from everybody at the same time, you're just not making.
you're just not making.
And I think that the product that, the products that, um, Andrew spoke a
little bit about earlier are, are something that could be, uh, very
very important to get that feeling moment back again, I think.
important to, to get that feeling moment back again, I think.
Speaking of virality, Matt Wallace is still a big supporter of DogeChain behind the scenes
and is definitely always interested in hearing about some of our latest products and apps
and things he could help with. So I think,
I think at the right time when we're,
we've launched our launch pads and we have some,
we have the right kind of products.
I think he would be open to help,
to sharing some awareness.
Matt Wallace,
888 on,
on X.com.
He was a really big supporter of those chain,
in the early days and still is
um so that's something else that we have in our pocket
i'm uh i'm also working on a platform as well um that should be ready hopefully in a couple weeks
It should be ready, hopefully in a couple of weeks.
I'm not sure if I can talk too much about it,
but you've probably already seen me kind of vibe coding it in the early stages.
But yeah, it's going to be super cool.
I think it's one of, first of its kind.
And yeah, super excited for it.
Everything's basically built out. I'm just doing all the fine tuning and the testing and the UI and UX to make everything like super polished and perfect. And right now it's looking like really killer. Like everything is just super smooth um but yeah i'm just running it through the tests contracts already being deployed
um and yeah uh hopefully i can share some more news in a couple weeks as well
yeah i'm excited to hear you you're still working on on that. It's a pretty big, cool thing to have, to be honest.
And I love what you're doing,
the fact that you're still building on the chain
and polishing up the UI,
making it the perfect thing that you could do.
Pretty cool stuff man
yeah it's just been a pain lately because uh like on a daily basis the ai models i'm using
to assist me in building it um they like change on a daily basis and so do the tools that i'm
using right like they're constantly going through updates and then just some of the models like
i can tell they're being tweaked in the back end and um but yeah it's almost there uh it's looking
super dope and sick it's also going to be like a launch pad like i stated before but it's going to
have like a unique twist um that'll hopefully it's a different type of launch pad is what i can say
um and it's gonna reward people for their creativity really and allow anyone to to kind of
um speculate on and and uh kind of pump up things that they think are funny.
And everything's going to be on chain and backed up through other services as well.
So it'll all be immutable.
And yeah, it's pretty cool. But I mean, I don't know if it'll work or jive um until it's released right but i'm
betting that it'll be pretty big um and it's first of its kind i think
nice
yeah very cool man incredibly cool all right guys uh it's been an hour already time fleets
yeah very cool man incredibly cool
time flies uh do you want to keep uh keep it up another 15 minutes we can uh quickly take some questions here if you guys have any.
Otherwise, we can, you know, async into the Telegram group and chat it over there.
If you have any more questions, more precise ones, even vague ones, doesn't matter.
Just, you know, give us the... There are some questions in the
Telegram group, Ivan.
What was it?
Should we make a porn site?
I think we answered that one.
I wanted to restart
the subject.
I see Tonag asked if there's any plans on decentralizing.
Currently, it stays in proof of authority
as it would be too easy to attack on validators
considering the supply in circulation
and the price of the token I think that
that should be quite self-explanatory if you know what I mean and just one
question from my end how about farming pools I know it's an old question, but I think I am a farmer. I love it. And I would love to see some farms on a quick swap, maybe. I know it depends on quick swap, but.
not sure what to tell you about the the farming pools uh i'll talk to darren to see uh what what
they have in plan but i i don't know all right to be honest i'm not sure and uh i would like to if i
if i told you what so uh yeah i know i know i'll keep you posted as soon as i have something cool Cool, thanks.
That's it on my end. Yeah, cool.
I guess just parting words,
I just think that we're definitely going to see a gigantic meme cycle
where all the demand that we we saw in 20 you know if you're
early enough turning 2013 2017 2020 I think we're definitely gonna get a full-on bid into meme coins
and crazy high prices uh inevitably uh it happened in the past that means it's it's very likely to happen again in the
future so uh with our launch pad around the corner and having just like the it's been so it's been
two years now of doge chain doge chain having this established brand as the layer two for doge
we're we're going to be well positioned to be there
and be the infrastructure for the mean wave.
And yeah, very excited for it.
And thanks for everybody for tuning in.
Anything else, Ivan, or anyone else?
Sorry, Ivan.
Is there some heavy marketing that LDA is going to do for Doge Chain to reestablish?
What's heavy marketing, in your opinion?
What do you mean by that?
I don't know.
Things like DogePort.
What was it again?
DogePort. Ports, uh, uh, uh, what was it again? Uh, douche pa, will it be, uh, um, reestablished, uh, or, uh, uh,
the pop or in the future, you mean DRC twenties and et cetera, it's really.
That's the, a little bit on the market.
The, the dogenals didn't actually stick.
They were like a fleeting point uh unfortunately so uh there's a very small demand even on bitcoin and uh if you see the bitcoin uh
the brc20 scene has quite died down so it's i would love to see them more
Uh, so it's, I would love to see them more, uh, around and, uh, would, we would push if the community asks for it, of course, but as it stands currently, there's a, there's a bit of an issue considering the, the fact that nobody uses them.
Unfortunately, I mean, even on, on doge chain itself on dogecoin itself. Considering the fact that nobody uses them, unfortunately.
I mean, even on Dogecoin itself, it's not a widely used type of asset anymore.
I think some of the UI and UX really needs to be improved on it in the sense that users should be able to fully bridge over
and have an automated process of the contract being created for them
without having to go through whitelisting or manual approval.
If we can somehow make that a possibility, I think that it'll cut down on a lot of the
friction, right?
Like, I think that was one of my biggest kind of concerns or contentions with the Pawport
in the beginning was that it needs to be like a seamless experience that people can just
bridge over their drc20s get the contract right away get the new tokens in their wallet submit
the new tokens to a lp pool and then uh yeah hopefully launch their drc20 um on on doge chain
with liquidity already there uh locked preferably, right?
So I think if we can improve that process
and break down those barriers,
it would help a lot.
And like I'd be happy to create some DRC20s
and then bridge them over and provide liquidity
just to kind of get it started or see what happens.
Yeah.
Like the pop port is like its purpose is to bridge them over
to DogeChain so that DRC20s can get proper liquidity right and and work within a smart contract context
and and it does all that yeah instead of like uh like limit orders etc yeah sure yeah so like
yeah so when comparing the data and looking at you know why why there's lack of interest in brc20s
and drc20s it's it's because of that exact reason that
and and we already have a system that solves it we just need to break down those barriers and make
it easier for people um to bridge in and bridge out equally and like i think there's a lot more
kind of like optimizations we can do to the chain itself in that regard to uh when it comes to the bridging
process for example um and bridging out bridging in and bridging out as well as more stables
um etc but it and and uh yeah i just had a question on like if if there's going to be
uh kind of like a roadmap um outlined in the future of where DogeChain's going to be heading.
Because I know we already had the ZKEVM in the pipeline.
The testnet was up over a year and a half ago.
But we were waiting for things.
And I think, you know, those things we were waiting on have come to fruition
or they should be ready.
And we should consider kind of like capitalizing on this moment in the market that may not be around for forever, right?
Yeah, sure. I understand what you mean uh the issue with certain things that you mentioned
is that for example uh let's say uh zkvm the entire like narrative fell through for polygon itself
uh like became ag layer but it didn't really became anything. They still haven't provided third party gas tokens, etc.
So we couldn't actually pick it up.
It would have been a huge waste of resources,
lots of devs working on something
that would have resulted into nothing, more or less.
So pretty much problematic as if i can say
and what we promised we actually delivered let's say the the drc uh 20 bridges is there now we did
get a little bit squashed by the narrative itself.
And it got, you know, lost in translation,
but I understand that the marketing angle
that you're laying out here, as we can actually push DRC20s as a Dogechain thing
instead of being a Dogecoin thing, so that
people understand that they are much easier to use, but their finality remains on proof of work
Dogecoin, which is quite something actually. It's an important thing Know whether this interest was just a fleeting one like with any
Like kind of meme that we see
well, it's ABC it's
We can do some efforts on that side definitely push it a little bit harder and
You know push it back into the narrative make it sure that people understand the importance of it
but pretty much all that we can do really on that side yeah I understand that and yeah I was also
talking about making the the chain a little more known again because yeah there was also talking about making the the chain uh a little more known again because yeah
there was some absence so uh i hope uh that the x account will do the necessary now to to make it
known to make dc now and together with the ambassadors we will push it.
All right.
All right. Cool, guys.
You missed earlier.
We're looking at about two weeks till the launch pads are done, both the centralized
one and an on-chain one, and hope to involve the community during these building processes.
Folks, I've asked if the chain is going to be online.
And yes, we'll be online
for the perpetual, infinite future.
If anything changes,
we'll be sure to let community know.
But of course, we'll be online.
Yeah.
Yeah, thanks.
And that's all from me
same here
see you next week
or in two weeks
not sure yet
we'll keep you posted on Twitter
on the frequency of the spaces
we're moving it
to more of a bi-weekly thing
starting this one
I guess
it would be easier to to uh to get
more people and more speakers on it as well uh so it it kind of gets stale on a weekly basis people
just don't show up anymore this way we can uh we can you know get get, get every space is a little bit more hyped up.
So I guess we'll see you in a couple of weeks in the new school year.
So back to school, guys.
It's been a pleasure.
And have a great weekend, everybody.
See you in a couple of weeks.
And we'll, of course, keep you uh on our socials about uh the progress
we're making with this uh incubated project yeah sounds good
all right guys see you around bye bye have a great weekend Það er hann.
