I said you might, can you hear me brother?
I can hear you. What's up, man?
I started it and I had some technical difficulties because it kind of started like a bit of a monologue and then it just kind of rugged myself. So I restarted it. Yeah. So.
We'll give it a second for this to catch up. I got to share it on some other stuff. We want to help with that real quick and then we'll get right into. Cool. You can share it. You grow. So I don't do that stuff.
get some of this all over everywhere get some of this red and see yeah so and I invited I tilt five have you seen them I guess where I'm talking to somebody nope so they're an AR board game oh is that I think I didn't see that yeah
Okay, and then recently they just got it looks like Katan the board game is doing something with them Okay, you see that at like Walmart and stuff I'm a fan of the ton Yeah, so they're doing that in AR and we're gonna talk about that in a little bit
That makes a lot of sense. I can see that game having quartz on it. Yeah, there's something I stumbled on and then I think that they they like and commented on some of the nerf stuff that people were doing and some mine I guess and then I found an
look through their stuff a little bit more and it's pretty neat. And I think one of them's here in Spokane, but their site says California, so not sure on that. But anyway, if anybody's just joining, because this was a recorded space, today we're filling in, I guess, how could you help me too? Joe's got some some important business
to take care of today. So he let the kids take care of the house and invited us to come in post-warms just so that there's consistency and people still have a place to come and chat about stuff. He was apparently, this is the place to get collaborations done. Last at Monday,
two of them, two collabs on Monday. That's pretty good. Oh, you have a half self-fillment and give me the minute. Give me the minute. And I didn't write it down so I can't tell you quite offhand but I know there were two people that were connected together via... Yeah, you have to go back and listen to the
recorded space I guess because it's still on mint so that's for all the people that are listening to you on the record. Man I should have wrote that down and I know better than that. I wrote a bunch of other stuff too and we'll talk about it. I started this space and then kind of got
I was talking about maybe how to start building a game. Some of the assets people need. And then I had a lot of questions hoping that people could come in or comment below or share with mints or me or somebody like that. But digging into unity and over.
the plug-in and how to do all that kind of stuff which is a little bit interesting and then a whole bunch of AI assets a lot of them are free to we can create sky boxes and you know a bunch of other stuff have you used stuff like that hex i haven't met with any i don't get in blender
There are many, I have too many other friends that get him blender that are way more knowledgeable and blender than I'm like man, like that is a skill that I'm gonna let you, let you have over me.
I don't know if it's over, but yeah, like I am.
You know, because some people want to create something and they don't even just a background or something on one of their hexes and You know that's something you'll need a little blender, but it's not so bad. Just got to create a sphere. That's it and then you have to apply a texture to it, but good news is
If somebody wanted to do that and couldn't figure it out, I didn't give you the file. And then it's a quick little replace and just changing the file of the picture at that point. So let's say you wanted to make a hotdog vendor
background right? Have you tried to make backgrounds before?
Do you do backgrounds in any of your scenes or anything like that? You know like a sky box? - Not really. If I have a sky box, somebody else probably made it. I really haven't done too much of any of that.
I gotcha. I gotcha. I mix around with little things, but most things like that, I rely on all of you. Like, y'all are already doing it. I'm like, you know what? You're so good at it. I would just rather talk about what they're really, I'm just gonna talk about their really cool stuff. Instead of trying for me to learn how to do their cool stuff, I'm gonna talk about their really#
And then when people like, what do you have? I'm like, you should check out this really cool shit. And then I show them your stuff.
Well, and there's a lot of people, but I think that there's a lot of creators maybe that are sitting on the fence because they don't quite know how to get their stuff into augmented reality.
Because it is kind of intimidating sometimes you know looking at the web builders and unity and blender and all that kind of stuff. There's a lot to that.
right? I agree. But it's not, it's really not that hard to do, you know, change simple experiences. So I've been using Kiber, which I've been taking the videos. You can create a video in Kiber. I think you get 50 seconds for free and then you have to pay after that.
And it's a, it says subscription, but you're just basically buying credit and they've allocated them to like, oh, this would be you how much in a month sort of deal. But it's like 120 bucks for, you know, like 12,000 credits and I've gone through over half of that.
in just like a month. But I do so quite a bit. And I'm using it for the game. So what I'll do is you can put in a video, like you can create your video. So I'll create a walkthrough of the game. And then I can apply a prompt to that and then add some AI enhancements. And then you can
And change the level of enhancement. One being the minimum and ten being just absolutely, you know, can't read the letters and stuff like that. And they just put the maximum AI image. Just go crazy with my shit button.
You know, it's basically free one time, but it comes out really well. So anyway, getting back to what I was talking about. I've been using it in the game. So I wanted to try to make, because as you know, which we're working with Mintz, and that's why I'm filling in for today, that we're working on the game, the Emerald City Road Pull, and it's an AR game.
wanted it to be animated. I feel like so it's a murder mystery graphic novel. That's kind of the feel that we want, right? That like a Frank Miller, Sin City kind of vibe, in color and then a little black and white and a mix and stuff like that. But in each of
The hex is only 100 megabyte limit. Within that limit it's hard to do a lot of animations and those get really heavy really fast and you can't, it really limits the experience. So my goal is to keep everything under 50 megabytes. So it's quick and easy to load, which I'm up on some and down on others, but that's beside the point.
So this image generation I can put in a bunch of different videos or walkthroughs or do different things like maybe record or take some images of like a fish tank and then run those through the AI generator and then put those in one of the scenes like the aquarium. So now I can put a pretty low resolution tape
picture that's pretty small, fits into the whole scheme. And it's animated, it's moving along with some low poly 3D assets. And now I've got, I'm developing, you know, a scene with some feel, a little bit of depth. So you can have, like you can be in the now with the concept of the game or the plot. And then you have all
all these aspects around and then a sky box to kind of close it in. And most of that, not most, but you can use AI to build that kind of stuff, right? So let's circle it back. And then of course, Blender, Sketch, Fab, Mo, Ready Player Me, all that shit. Go, Joe, our Go Hex.
You know, I just can say like I like your use of the videos inside your scenes when you were talking about building backgrounds or like you build entire, yeah, entire environments that are really, and I want to say in Transing, it's not the word I really want to use, but you
just immersive, I guess it's the word that we were looking for. I was trying to use a different word but immersive is perfect here. Yeah, it's really captures everything about the scene. The way you wrote the prompts to make everything flicker and go with it's way you did it's perfect. Thanks. Yeah.
It's different and I try to put in some trees and bushes to kind of hide the video to 3D asset or put it on seams of buildings and stuff like that. But yeah, it is what it is. But it's like the rides at Disneyland or something like that where you get a realism and a surrealism at the same time.
I'm in, so I like what y'all are doing. >> So have you worked with like Chat GPT3 barred OpenAI, that kind of stuff? I mean, I know everybody's really doing it, but
I've done some AI things that I've messed with with the Kyber AI ever since you and Joe started talking about it right? Made a couple videos over there and then you know the open AI stuff that was you know I mean it was open AI so
I got into that for a little while, but then I started watching some other people, like there's some other people in the over the reality community that just, man, they took open that OpenAI and really ran with it. There's a couple of people here that Web 3 Texas, they're actually having a meetup this Friday.
But it's just on AI problems. But they take everything from there and plug it into everything because it's open AI. So it's really been wild watching all the things that everybody's doing with it because they're literally like everybody. The things that you're simple things like
like opening a door up and down for a pet to go in and out, but like keeping track of that and plugging in in a different way. From those types of things with the opening all the way to what's the meaning of life. People started asking those questions.
questions and figuring out how to do those things. And we found out 42, but we're still going to react again. You know, we're just building a bigger computer. That's always 42, but I think I know who you're talking about. Is that the one where they have the candy like the human candy dispenser and you can hook it?
I didn't catch that, yeah. I saw one where they had an AR experience like that set up and it was too
candy dispenser and then it was hooked up to like a Lexus through Google and you could click on it and then it would dispense candy in real life through an augmented reality interaction.
I know that it was the medigate, like they hooked up, they had a lot of problems. Yeah, that's the one it was. It was in over the reality thing. I got a poor memory. I remember the event, sometimes it gets jumbled into the... I did it.
the rabbit hole, I guess. There's lots of things going on. That's what I'm saying. There's so much going on. People from plugging it in to open and close their garage door to people asking what's the meaning of life and people that it's open AI and people are just gone.
and it's been a lot of fun to watch and see what all and listen to all the findings that people have on what it can do. No, I hear you. And it's really just getting started. Once people learn how to use it and it becomes easier to use.
It's only gonna get a chip bigger. So I guess if nobody shows up, you and I can chat for a little bit and then I don't know what are you doing at four o'clock? You want to go to discord and check out the tilt five AR table gaming to they have a discord like a and a kind of thing.
Okay, I don't know if you're in there. I don't know. When is that? That's like 30 minutes from now? Yeah. Maybe we might be able to hop over there. I mean, I'm ignoring get scores like I hate like man, I hate this court so much. You know, and okay, here's my discord experience right? So I go into discord and all of a sudden I'm stuck in a room. I
I can't get my headphones to link in all this other nonsense. And then now I'm like, why doesn't my music play? I'm still in a channel somewhere in there. It annoys me. Yeah, there's a lot of people that do a lot of things in Discord that I probably enjoy in this frenzy of stuff that I don't go to just because it's in Discord. I don't know yet.
Yeah, no, yeah, I go in the over there and I'm like there's so many messages different groups that I'm looking at going I don't want to I don't want to do with any of this so I just So skip ahead I guess real quick I was gonna talk about a whole bunch of other stuff but real quick a minute since you're one of them and I mentioned our sponsors for this game
We have angry animals, cyber nerd baby, and squid is of course. You helped us do quite a bit. So the Emerald City Rugpool, we're using spatial, spirit universe and over the reality as well as Instagram filters for
The characters as well as the promos and so there's a lot of depth to this there's avatars There's a hell nine avatar that cyber nerd baby created and a lot of that and hexadise you did the the filters for the character So these are the characters from the game which are avatars that are you know game specific we have like the ex lover
the x-employee, the founder, that's the victim, and the whole concept of the game is to find out who killed them, one of the suspects, what they used as a weapon, and the location of it through augmented reality hacks. It's basically a scavenger, huh, with a clue concept, the clue board game.
But yeah, hex, you did a great job and it's been fun. And you can see, so if we go to minthweb3.gethub.io, right at the beginning is the detective and that is one of hexadized filters that's used
and you'll see how it is in the game. So the background is actually used from Kyber. It's a Kyber AI generated video background. The voice is AI. So Joe from Mintz went and we have voice actors and actresses and took samples, enough samples of their voice to be
able to create an AI generated voice of them and now we can use their voice and just type in a script. And we don't have to get with the actress or we just needed their permission. And so now we have all these actresses and that's basically what that is. That would be Joe's voice. But recently there was a promo release
least of the aquarium, one of the scenes, and that was LMD's, our LM design's voice, and that was AI generated. So I figured I would share that. Going back to sponsors and events, where you have two mixtapes out, those sponsors, the nasties
and then Christian Winkler from the nasty hooks. That's the cyberpunk collective theme and then best stepdad which is a comedy music, you know, little on the blue comedy, but it's really funny and great beats. Christian does a lot, you know, the music and he does a great job and he's got a good
good sound. So I checked that out and if you buy any of those you can get them on hollywoodland.space and also minceweb3.github.io and 95% of that goes to the artist. We're just trying to help them get their stuff out there and you know make five matik or tenmatik or whatever it is you
in there so just wanted to throw that out. All right you still there hex. Of course I'm still here. All right. I was all good. I was listening. I'm ready for the game you know. Gotta get the plugs. So the game itself over has a gaming AR
Competition for the AR Awards it ends July 28th. So our goals have the game done by them There's your there's your alpha for the day. You're the first to know Besides it goes besides me and Joe That's the goal but right now almost all the lands are built
Just wait and kind of to see if there's going to be an AI release from over the reality. But if not, all the AI stuff will be through Sphere at Universe. And then we're going to do some spatial stuff. We have the cyberpunk collective dropping soon. And then
Yeah, I don't want to go too much into that, but it's going to lead into Joe and I have already decided probably. Looks like about 90 something percent on this, what our next game is going to be. Okay. But we're not going to tell you.
to get to this one first. Yeah, but the next one, so we're always looking to take it to the next level and then integrate stuff from the past. And I think this next one is going to be a way to connect everything that we've done so far into
something that brings us to the next level. So that's for all leave it. But one of the goals we were is you know how to use multiple hexes. How do you take these hexes and then so we did a Santa game for Chris and it had the goals of 12 hexes is deep with 12 different token gates.
And it got a little too complex for most people to get into because there's a lot of barriers there with the connecting the wall that makes you have the and even if you had the token, sometimes it just wouldn't work. So we opened that whole thing up and found that some people would go to some hexes, but not all
and it's hard to put that concept where we want you to go through all of them. So that's where we're looking at now is something we can get people to want to go to multiple hexes together and then maybe even be able to combine multiple hexes into one experience and stuff too. So that's your hints.
Awesome. So check this out. Here's the output for you, right? So the second week of July, we're doing the AR tour. Okay, here in Dallas, there's an AR tour here in Dallas. We're going to start off at DMX.
Yes, that will be, yeah, we'll probably get with you not too far off about something like that. But yeah, we're just working out mostly the, the how-tos of the mechanics. We won't be there, then we're there.
a lot of that's just making things work in unity and getting them onto the over-platform and stuff. Last minute and you know a lot of ins and outs, movers and shakers.
it's fourth of July here in the United States. What are you doing this weekend? So what you got plans? What are you doing? What do you got? So basically my name is a war zone during that time. They've already started
light and fireworks off like two days ago every night. Okay. And what's the funny thing is we're like maybe a mile or two from the the border where the state is legal so they can go get the fireworks and do whatever over there. But over here it's not legal, right? Not not not as far as that
knows but anyway long story short I have a big old sweet St. Bernard and a couple other dogs and they don't do well with the fireworks so I just stay home and then I just hang out with them. Did you watch a movie real loud? Yeah I hear you.
right on it sounds like your neighborhood really really enjoys this army yeah and there's a theme park close by so my wife she takes all the kids over to the theme park and stuff they watch the flowers and come on there you go and I bought I dogs it so they don't do crazy they don't tear everything up
She's a hundred and fifty five pounds. You don't want to see her upset? She's trying to get anywhere, bury her head, anywhere. So, hey, let's talk. Everybody's kind of getting back into it.
and stuff like that. I got a few questions. I don't know if you want to bounce a couple things off, but we got a little time here. So I've been looking at the unity and stuff like that, but that's, you said already that's not what you're into. But have you looked into some of the news? Have you seen the new video? I guess a month ago with the controllable assets? And then no.
inside of unity it can only be done in unity is that right well it says something about the market you can get controllable assets in the marketplace okay so if it has to go come through the market their marketplace that's what it sounds like yeah it can't be just like a sandbox and it is already
already raised the same way. Yeah, it sounds like they're going to get into or they've gotten into and I haven't looked. That's why I was going to ask controllable assets that you buy maybe through the marketplace. It sounds like you haven't seen that yet. And then they also. I want to say I
I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. They made it and you can do controllable assets. And so with your NFTs. And so I immediately like boom, boom, boom, like rain over jumped on and boom, dropped a couple of sandbox NFTs and started landing because I wanted to dance some swords. I wanted to watch them fight. And so I threw them in the land.
and they didn't work and so I got with Merck because there was something going on but then right after that they had or like a few days later okay so they may have worked it out because a few days later they were at the convention and what's going to call it and the NFC the yes so they were in
NFC and out at the sandbox party they had a sandbox 8 you know like this like disco 8 for whatever DJ 8 walking around threatening stuff being controlled anybody could jump into the land and control it so they had that thing going on which I thought that was
That was pretty cool because that showed if it was a sandbox NFT, that means we can just like stuff like that and just drop it in. And so what I want, and what I think they're saying is you just drop it in on the webbuilder's blue, drop it in your, as long as it's rigged up, then it works.
Okay, it has to be rigged up with controllers like forward backwards side Yeah, like this like spatial when you use spatial mobile the games on there those are Yeah, controllable with love yeah, yeah
So that's cool. And then the other one I saw was that they were doing their like the nodes for Like the unity nodes you can just drag and drop the little wire frames now or whatever the strings or whatever there Yes, I believe I believe you can you can be you can bring scripts
Yeah, and then I think once you get into some of that, I think you can start to import some of your stuff from WebBuilder into Unity through like a dragon drop once you put your API to you. I think that it recognized, because I was watching the
the videos over SDK, they have one video, it's like a year old, and it shows you how to import the Unity plugin and stuff for over, and then in that when he goes to drop down you can see your projects and stuff. So I think there's a way to maybe
create or at least take legacy projects that you've done in Web Builder and still interface those with Unity. But like I said, I'm still learning this and I'm very much at the beginner phase, but we'll figure it out. That's why I came here and was to ask you guys.
This is probably show up here for us. I'm hoping somebody will gain. No, I get it. I can't hear the talk about smart people man. Shit. No, I'm scared. I know and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,#
Well, one of them did your pretty smart hex. I'll give you that You're a pretty fart smell or dude I just I just stand in the right spot
Yeah, I don't know you got you doing some NFT Detroit stuff. I did see something on those lines right I know squid base
is for like they're inside their promo is real big. I'm not personal. Yeah. Yeah. I saw Squid Biz too was doing some NFT destroy. See that's why we need Joe. Joe knows all this stuff.
Joe does know everything. Man, I just make pictures and stuff. That's what I do. Come up with like stories. I do that. The easy stuff. I don't have to talk to everybody and keep them entertained. Dance monkey. It's how it feels. Sometimes.
So speaking of that Kyber AI stuff, so my sister Ryan's this firework stand not too far from me and she's got it's like a whole store right and so which is which is pretty nice because it's AC instead of being just like you know the cardboard
box as you'll see on the side of the road. I don't know how it is up there, but we get everybody starts telling fireworks down here. Only on the reservations up here. Only on the reservations up there? Oh, let's see. Okay. So you can't see it out here. They're just like
like everybody's out by word stand, they're like lemonade stands but for old people. So I went in and shot, took a couple videos and put it through tie by AI and you know just put in some promise with like Fourth of July fireworks and stuff.
like that and it's kind of fun. I'm not going to lie, it's kind of fun to watch a change and do its thing. And then I actually took it from there and put it in cathart and I laid the original down and played it and then I took the AI one and put it on top.
And I brought the opacity, like maybe like 60, 70% so you can just barely see the original like behind it. But like you saw the AI changing on top of it. And you know they played to both videos just played so it was just perfect. It was just so perfect.
I like the way some of those videos and all that, you know, how all that mingles together, just kind of.
I know it's talking to me.
Well then I'm kind of wondering man I got rug the first time and then it's just you and I and That's basically it in here today. So what if we had some technical difficulty maybe
or maybe or maybe you know nobody wanted to hear us talk and we just got to come to terms with that you know we see a backpack well denial is not just a river in Egypt okay see I'm so I
I'm so close to Canada, I got the A in there. So you're not doing any fish in this weekend? It's, are there no fish all the fish already? What's happening?
Now I've fished a little bit and stuff but yeah go
You know, every couple of weeks or whatever it is, that crazy. It's hot right now. I mean, it's like, well, it's, you know, I see it's hot and you're getting a lot of them because it's like 85. That's like, I get it because it's like when I say it's cold down here.
Yeah, see me 75 man once I started getting to both 75 I started getting uncomfortable. I like the winner Yeah, the cooler temps, you know 65 75 that's that's like that perfect zone It was a hundred and seven or something like that on Sunday the the second day
the music festival. Oh, it was so hot. Yeah, I don't two years ago this time, like in June, middle of June, it was 118 up here, which is insane for us. No, no. Yeah, I spent a lot of time down south. I worked in Houston, Galveston.
And all throughout Louisiana and Mississippi and stuff of oil rigs and offshore and yeah, you guys you guys know what hot is and especially when you get that hot and that humid That starts getting the little bit ugly Yeah, you get these you get those big storms that come through and it is like it turns
I was in the high-press Texas area where it was flat, really flat for me. But it was the big trees and I mean so many lakes. You could fish anywhere you wanted to out there. Yeah, it was real pretty country though. Yeah, all the net for water spots out there.
We're like bitch just running to each other. Fill us up bitch going to one is a day per year and then they go to the other one So hey, when are we gonna collab on a game or something dude when you I guess since it's just you and I what do you always so busy and I'm always so busy one of these days we're gonna have to come up with the educational game platform
I've got I just need someone to build it up. There's a few games I'm ready to do. Someone would be simple and someone could be like, you know, global, you know, everybody just
You looked at hiring someone to do it, pricing it out, maybe outsourcing? - Oh yeah, 100%. That's really... - What do you think have you gotten a price range on that? Do you have an estimate?
Yeah, if I had 10 grand, I could get my game made.
And then what would your return be without giving them because I know you don't like me I don't want to give away my secrets as you know before it's too early But so this game if you were to invest $10,000 into it you would expect to get something out of it
So the projected return is anywhere, I don't know, probably year after, you get your full
plus maybe two times. Can you elaborate on how you would revenue that out? Do you want to go down that road with this? Yeah, no, it would be like the easiest is just ad space. Like the game itself is free. You just sell the ad space. So I mean, it's a real
I'd say a year, you know, a year comfortably you get yours plus times two, but I comfortably I think you get the workspace in it. So how would you implement the out space and then who would you target to sell it to and then what do you
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out with people playing, you know, not just playing the game, but like organizing other people playing the game. Along with, you know, and that, so you would sell, but you would get into the event. So you would be a come part of like the sponsorship package kind of thing.
or like boom okay yeah these people boom we're gonna play this game that and then it incorporates that brand so it gets very white labels I guess you can say it can be or it can just be like the natural just like everybody you know this is the neutral game thing
So can I ask what you're trying to teach people or who you're trying to teach like what would be your demographic in this? Yeah, so you the target audience could be very easily liked for the free basic like that everybody has access to versions would be would be children so
So you would have things, you know, your ad space in there, I would probably want to be more like educational based, right? So maybe get with specific YouTubers that do things like your public broadcast channel, your PBS, you have links to their educational things that
inside of this, like when you play this game and then bam you go into these areas, okay. So that's one way to do those things with free like just anybody can play these things for the white label, the bench types things and you can get more specific in your ads and you know who it is and where the links go and whatever it is that you want to see them.
I think I've fallen. Yeah, I think finding a way, because all these companies, they've thought about AR before it's been around forever. I mean, Doritos was making AR ads with helicopters 10 over 10 years ago.
They don't know how to grasp the consumers. And I think that's what we've all run into, right? So when we went to that over space and discord and on Twitter, and it was a great for Medicaid, right? So Medicaid's got a lot of really cool ideas and they've done a lot of neat stuff. But then towards the end,
They kind of said the same catchphrase that we all kind of seem to slip every now and then is yeah We made this great thing, but nobody bought it Yeah, and so and it was all their stuff is great to on track They got mini so and that's something that Joan I've talked about is like you know mini games seem to be a good way to bring people in and
If you can create a mini game that people like, Pokemon Go was just a mini game basically. I mean, it was, you know, maybe more than that because it has a culture and a whole other thing behind it. But really, it was just a coin chasing or a monster chasing game. You know, Flappy Bird, any of these, you know, fruit and injustice, something, there's something you can
finding equivalent that you can probably build an AR and once you get people that are like oh this is cool you're you're golden and then people are willing to start leaping over those barriers of entry but and it's really hard getting them in here that's been my biggest obstacle I would say
You know, just getting people... So UT, UT usually comes around quite a bit in the spaces, latent stuff, and I know him personally. And he's trying to get into this. He has the desire he wants to do it. But, you know, getting his Matic from the Ethereum level one or layer one to...
Maddick layer 2 to buy someone's NFT to you know, these are all huge obstacles for someone coming and has no idea You know How do I bridge this how do it and that's just or you know, how do I get a man? See I have to I have to get a wallet and I got to teach that wallet and I got to hook it up with over and I got a you know
I can't do Ethereum now I got a hook okay so now I have to download the polygon network and you know you know these all seem like trivial things to us because we've done it a few times but I did okay yeah I was talking to a guy here here to local Scott gave one of the local strip malls I say for outside malls as it's
saying you're off lit. Okay, we used to be a somebody by any way. Long story short, guys had a store there for like 15 years now. But it's his store, right? And so I was in there talking through him this past week and doing, I was doing some, it's a, disturbing. So if you go on the Instagram, you'll see
He's got his own investment and stuff. And so we're talking about all these things. And then, you know, I, because I had my computer and stuff set up, you know, making a just having some fun with him.
And I said, "Did you run just in my blood?" He's like, "Yeah." And so I showed him. He's like, "Look, I've talked to people that talk about it." But I've never really talked to somebody like, "Is that like actually boom?" It's just like bam. I said, "No, this is..."
And so it just opened that up like you know, because he's heard there's a lot of people to talk about it And I didn't think about it like this because when we talk to people you're not people like oh, I've heard about it, but no, they really haven't heard about it It's kind of like when people like oh, I heard about that new law. Yeah, but did you read it or did you just hear somebody say there's#
Why I think that goes a long way for a lot of things, but true. Yeah, a lot of people, I've heard a bit, I heard a bit, whatever it is. Yeah, but then, you know, I heard it's a scam for money laundering and kidnappers and whatever bullshit. But, you know, there's, there's fundamentally
It's not for everything. So you're not going to change the world with blockchain somehow, but it's not fundamentally going to shift to blockchain. It's going to enhance it in some way or the entire world is not on the internet.
a large mobile internet, there's a mobile or large desktop internet or whatever, and then you know there's a large part that just doesn't know what the hell is going on and don't care and I kind of wish I was among them sometimes. But yeah.
I'm with you. Yeah, I know. I kind of lost my point where I was going there. I was looking at some else to try to think at the same time. It's like walking and chewing gum and I can't do that.
Yeah, I don't know. What are you doing? I I Can send you a link or it's on both my the Hollywood and so you know, Joe thing if you want to go try to listen to this discord for a minute and just check it out. I'm just curious to see So it's
I've you looked at it all this top five thing. I have not. Not outside of your post. So you got to buy it. You use it right and it's basically 300 bucks is like one heads at one table kind of thing but they have a multi set up set it looks like you for like a thousand bucks you get three full setups.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's kind of how it looked to me when I was and I just kind of glazed over this right and it's a It's a table unit like a matter something that rolls out it looks like and then like some goofy looking goggles you can see through they have like a reflected lens and when I say goofy
They kind of look like ski argros, right? I would like an interesting refracted lens. But then with that, you have a wand, kind of like a weed controller with a like the Harry Potter extender on it, you know, like a like a magic wand version of a
we want. And then that's how you control it. And yeah, you basically can create board games, play it with other people. It's really, it's quite an interesting concept. And it's pretty low barrier to entry for like 300 bucks, you know what I mean? Especially if you can get, because what's a board game now?
on costy 70 bucks MSRP at a target or Walmart or something right? So if you can get this and have multiple games, probably have to buy those games much like you do an app on Oculus. That's kind of why I wanted to go and check it out.
If you want we can end it here hex and then I'll send you their thing and you can check it out if you want to go over if not. I'll see you somewhere else. Send me the link and I might just pop up in there. And then hey,
if i can talk into discord this time i'm trying to talk joe and going to discord one day with me too and then crash it because the the napkin hoax guys he has a couple other projects one of them's DJ
he gave that dog and then he's got the swizzle report and some other stuff. So maybe one night we'll go in and say, "Hey, just for the hell of it." Because he doesn't do the Twitter thing, so it might be fun just to rouse him in his own space.
I'm down for jumping in the running space of my day. Yeah. All right, Joe, well, we kept you for almost an hour. We filled your void. That sounds awful.
But it was great talking to you, Hacks. And yeah, man, best of luck on all your projects, and I'll check it out. I'll send you some links. And man, I love talking to you, man. And we'll see you guys soon. Cheers. Thanks for coming. Cheers.