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MOB - April’s Fools ⛓️
Recorded: April 1, 2025 Duration: 2:10:30Space Recording
Short Summary
Discussions cover trends in social media content, misinformation in crypto markets, and the impact of AI on art. Vine's revival and Spotify's business model highlight growth and decline in digital platforms, respectively.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Push me, and then just hurt me, till I can get my satisfaction.
Push me, and then just hurt me, till I can get my satisfaction.
Satisfaction.
Satisfaction.
Satisfaction. so Push me, and then just touch me, till I can get my satisfaction.
till I can get my satisfaction.
Push me and then just touch me
till I can get my satisfaction. Push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, push, Action.
All right.
And then just stop that damn song.
Okay, so that's a classic where I'm from.
I don't know if it is where you're from, but where I'm from, it's a classic because... Where are you from, mate?
Where are you from?
That's a classic.
Reggio Emilia, Italy.
I swear.
It's actually a classic.
Is it?
Yeah.
Do you know that song?
Are they local?
He is actually
It's totally
That's a classic
Like dance thing
That's like
Yeah
Yeah
It's OG stuff
Oh my god
I hate to admit this
But my first thought
Was to say exactly
What fucking yellow
Just said too
Oh my god
I'm gonna go jump off a bridge
See you guys
Well you were also
Gonna say it's a classic
Yeah Where are you from Exactly V say it's a classic. Yeah.
Where are you from exactly, V?
That this is a classic by you and you doubt it's a classic by us?
Really?
It is a classic.
I'm so lost already.
What?
Don't worry, V.
Don't worry.
We got you.
It's a classic, V.
Yes.
We love it, too.
Absolutely.
Do you?
It's a classic where you're from
okay directly from your area speaking of classics everybody needs to retweet the room so go down
into that lower corner and do that and put a like comment and retweet thank you space guys
book market do everything do all the things. Do all the things.
Let's get some people in here.
There's only nine people in here.
I know.
I think we should remove all work until there's at least ten.
I mean, without ten, I don't think we should speak.
Yeah, press the mute button.
There's like eight people in here or something.
One, two, three, four, four, eight, nine.
There's nine.
And there's only like five retweets.
So who's lagging?
I see nine now.
Okay, now there is?
Okay, good.
Okay.
So where are the rest of these jerks?
Is this a joke on V that I wasn't a part of?
I'm really pissed off if everybody's playing a joke on V
and I'm not a part of it.
Well, I'm...
Nice.
If your head's not bumping, you're lying though.
Why does your head have to bump to there?
It's just a bump.
And like a Night at the Roxxbury type of pop you know
baby can't hear you This is also a classic, right?
It's not just me, right?
It's a classic for everyone, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
Okay, good.
Sorry.
In a weird way.
I feel like dance music nowadays is not as good as it used to be. I don't know if you guys agree on this.
A lot of music is not as good as it used to be, but in particular dance music. I don't know. Thoughts?
I think that, like, there used to be, like, songs in dance music, and now it just seems to be like beats and like sporadic vocals.
I don't know.
But it doesn't seem like there's songwriting as good as it used to be, but I don't know.
Now there's top lines, like just one.
Yeah, like one line and then it's just repeated and chopped up.
Like don't you know, bump it up.
You got to bump it up.
Like that.
Yeah, there you go.
I don't know.
But hey, Daft Punk is coming back and doing a tour.
So and they also dropped a Nike.
So there is that.
I don't know if that means it.
Nice, nice, nice.
Well, maybe there is hope for dance music.
Well, that said, welcome, everybody.
It's April 1st.
Please do repost this space.
Why don't we just tell some jokes today, you know, to make us laugh.
I feel like we need it.
The market is, oh, my God, like so boring.
I don't know if you guys are feeling this, but, like, to me,
I used to love just scroll
Twitter for hours and just read everyone's opinions and takes and you know comment and
repost stuff and like things and engage and now I'm just like oh my god like people are out of
ideas they're out of clickbait tweets that are actually baity.
You know, they're out of drama.
They're out of, I don't know.
This is just my feeling right now.
So actually today I was looking forward to seeing some fun April's Fool stuff.
But no, like, I'm sorry.
I didn't, you know, actually I didn't see anything or read anything that actually made me either jump scare or laugh so what did you do you didn't do anything me i'm waiting
i'm waiting here for uv to come out and say i'm releasing my heavy metal album. Oh, she is, duh.
Like, I mean, that wouldn't be like an April Fool's thing.
That's like, we're doing it together.
Yeah, I'm going to go see her in Nashville,
and we're going to, like, create a band,
and it's called Pussy Power, and it's all heavy metal.
If you need any groupies, I got you.
That wouldn't be too much of a joke,
because I don't
exclude the possibility actually yeah exactly of that happening but no last year i did the usual
one like uh oh my god okay i'm putting my music on spotify let's go you know that's boring uh
because i've done it already so i'm still the bad thing is most people wouldn't even know that was a joke
you know
like normies wouldn't
notice that was a joke
like you know
right
I feel like at this point
at this point they'd be like
oh wow she's giving up
you know kind of thing
but I mean
what about you Mr. Tom you're putting all your music back on Spotify.
Honestly, that joke has gotten old.
V, I have an announcement.
I know.
I have an announcement. I'd like to announce
that I just got a job.
I am now hired as the new drummer of
Pussy Power.
Nice!
I thought you were the guitarist of the band. What's going on? I. I love it. Nice. Wait. I thought you were
the guitarist of the band.
What's going on?
Now you're the drummer?
I swear I'm the drummer.
I bring the real Pussy Power.
Okay, fine.
Has anyone got tickets
for Pussy Power?
I don't know,
but Christiana is the biggest
lesbian I've ever known,
so I think that he's
perfect for Pussy Power.
What the fuck?
You're the second person
to say that to me
in 24 hours.
I'm the biggest lesbian.
I do identify as a lesbian.
I know you do.
You're welcome.
That's so weird.
Did you talk to Sam?
I was literally talking to someone last night and they were like, yeah, you're a lesbian.
I was like, how did you know?
What does that mean?
You know what the whole joke is?
What does a lesbian bring on a first date?
A moving truck?
Because they move in on the first date.
That's so me.
I'd be moving in on the first date and be like,
so what am I meeting your parents?
Oh, my God.
It just means that I like women, and I don't know.
I identify as a lesbian.
That's totally fine, Cristiano.
You can identify as whatever.
You know what I mean?
I'm an ex-man. christiano uh you can identify as whatever uh you know what i mean
what happened emily
no i love men so there we go you can be the lesbian i'll be the gay man it'll be a whole thing there we go i can see you as a gay man. Do you act like a gay man?
I really do, though.
It's kind of scary.
I am very sassy, yeah.
Sorry, guys. I was just picking up the dog that was eating a plant he shouldn't be eating.
What's he eating?
The ganja?
He's eating the weed again?
Oh, no.
He's, like, out in the yard.
He's eating some shrub that is probably no. He's, like, out in the yard, he's eating some shrub
that is probably poisonous for him.
So, I was like... A shrubbery?
No, shrub.
Are the cat and the dog,
are they integrating
yet? Um, yeah,
yeah, yeah, they are. It's just, like,
he doesn't understand
small she is, and, like, he'll just want to play with her play rough you
know what I mean um but yeah yeah they're they're integrating they're both young so it's it's gonna
be fine um however okay let's get into mob talk uh that said I do want to open up this space for
the stage if anyone in the audience has a joke to tell that's
actually funny please do and come up and say it because like i said the lesbian joke was like the
funniest thing i heard today um about cristiano being a lesbian um which you know says a lot and
um yeah that's a low bar v that's a really low bar seriously because twitter crypto
twitter used to be funny and now it's just not anymore so if someone has some hidden uh gem that
they haven't undisclosed yet today uh please do come up and say just make us laugh you know what
i mean um we need that badly um and then yeah what's going on anything
christian what's going on in your world what's going on in vine any any mob news you want to
report to the mob headquarters um yeah sorry yeah michael i was just handing me a popeye's chicken
menu exactly as isn't that like no one wants to talk to me all day and then everyone at the same time.
So yeah, what's happening with Vine?
Vine is going great.
It literally has been ripping since Elon gave us permission
to bring back Vine.
XAI recently bought X.
And so that actually means that Vine is now owned by XAI
and our CEO is Grok, I guess.
And so I think within 10 minutes of owning X, one of the heads of XAI was like, hey,
so now we officially own Vine.
What should we do with it?
And then Elon responded, feel free to take that on, which essentially for us was the
green light.
It was like, go nuts.
So the stock ripped, the stock, a hundred and thirty percent on that announcement it
was like books we were like on the floor we were like two cents and so now we're
at like five cents so yeah we're good everyone in the community site and the
community is getting we never really got small we only went down to I think a
hundred and ten thousand holders which is so crazy is like that's our smallest
ever so it's giant community including people like Scottie Pippen and all types of celebrities
and stuff.
And it's a really, it's not stressful, but it's like nerve wracking because like the
spaces, when I'm hosting spaces, they'll become like, you know, 2000 people there live.
And you look afterwards and you're like, oh, there's 250,000 people that came through that
space.
And it's like, it's insane.
And so you think about how many people are listening.
It's like, it makes you a little bit nervous, but I'm trying to just, you know, spread my shine, be myself, freestyle, you
know, spit bars, play some music, put everyone on.
So when you guys start to see the spaces, the Vine spaces going crazy again, and you
see, you know, Cristiano's hosting this 700 people, jump in, jump on stage.
Like I'd rather talk to my friends than people who are trying to engagement farm you know so it's gonna dude i i like i like the small rooms with you because those are really
fun i love going into your rooms regardless of the size so like you know and usually i am a size
queen but i was about to say that's what you just tell all the guys to make them feel better
it's not the size of the room that counts it's how you use it exactly exactly april
yeah it's gigantic our rooms are huge that's what this is i've heard things
is there a rumor going around web 3
is there not what kind of rumor fucks with it i don't know of rumor? I don't know. Ask your girlfriends.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Okay, so I have an announcement to make, you guys.
So we're going to do polka metal now.
We're not doing hardcore metal.
We're going to have yodeling
in our metal and breakdowns.
So that's the new
meta for September morning.
So be ready.
And we're going to tour in renaissance fairs. That's the new meta for September morning. So be ready. Be ready.
Fire.
And we're going to tour in Renaissance fairs.
That's the next.
That's the meta.
That's what we're going to do.
Can you yodel, Emily, what we were talking about earlier, the layering stuff?
Oh, the yodeling?
No, I never really mastered that.
I kind of stuck with the screaming because that took a lot of my effort. But I know, you know who can yodel really well? Avril Lavigne.
She's really good at yodeling. Like, I don't know why I know that, but like, I do know that.
What was this larynx talk you were having?
Oh, so, okay. So when you scream like properly, like metal scream, the big thing about metal
screaming is you have to drop your larynx.
So when your larynx is positioned when you're singing, it's usually a little bit higher.
And if you're going for a really high note, you naturally, like when you're singing it,
you want to drop your larynx a little bit so that you can get above the note. But like when you're a metal screaming, in order to open up your chords, you need to drop your
larynx as far as you can. So you can open up the chords so they can kind of like vibrato against
themselves so you can get that scream, right? And you do it properly. So you don't like if your
your chords are really tight together and you're trying to do the scream, it could form
polyps, it can really harm your chords.
You want to do the better thing and drop your larynx.
So I was talking to V about the set that we're going on tour with.
And this set is kind of the hardest set I think I've ever played in my life because
it's about 50-50 singing, screaming, and it has, like, about four octave ranges in it
and, like, a lot of, like, vibrato and falsetto
going in and out of things.
So it's, like, there's a lot of vocal acrobatics
that I do in this set.
So I have to really be very, like, careful
about where I'm placing my larynx, like like as I'm on stage because if I'm going
to do 46 dates of this like I need to be able to like know where I'm placing it and do the right
thing by it so that I don't fuck up my voice so that's why we were talking about that I have a
question uh would and please say no. Say no if you want.
Can we hear a scream or are you resting before your first gig?
Maybe in a minute.
I'm just eating cereal right now.
What cereal?
Can we make you scream?
Well, Cristiano, that's a whole other topic how about that we'll talk about that later offline i'm just kidding all right yeah yeah april fool guys i'm a lesbian wait what's
what's the real yeah i'm eating special k red berries because it was on sale at target so
it's actually not bad.
But I did something really stupid.
So Rich has like heavy cream and then my milk.
And they're like in a similar bottle.
And I took the heavy cream and I poured it.
And I was like, fuck.
But then I just dumped a bunch of water in it.
And it's actually okay. Yeah.
What the fuck?
Wow.
Yeah.
What did I just come in there for this is crazy
heavy cream heavy cream so heavy cream and water don't forget the water yamazoo you gotta kind of
you gotta make it so it's not so thick how about some yeah it's i'm telling you thick
what are we talking about hey there, I thought, wait, what?
It's common sense, Yamaza.
That's called common sense.
Yamaza's never heard of that.
Yeah, yeah, definitely not.
So, you guys don't know about heavy cream?
That's really sad.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It was, never mind.
Is it made from almonds?
It was a joke!
No, this is like real milk.
This is... Oh, God.
Please, let's not do this. That's how you make whipped cream, because I used to make it when I was a kid with my aunt.
Yeah, I can say something about that, too.
I'm just not... My brain is in the wrong place right now.
Did you ever notice that they never, ever put...
They never call it what it actually is.
Like, almond milk, it's technically a nut, right?
So it should just say nut cream. Yeah, but they can call it what it actually is. Like almond milk, it's like technically a nut, right? So like it should just say nut cream.
Yeah, but they can't do that because of obvious reasons.
I feel like they wouldn't sell as many
if it was called nut cream.
Well, West Hollywood maybe.
But like, I don't think they would sell that many.
I think they'd sell more.
I disagree.
You guys are the best nut cream, that's what they're saying.
Yeah, like I mean, there's like such a branding
advertising campaign right there.
I mean, it's so obvious.
If we came out with an almond milk company just called Nut Cream,
I feel like we would make a billion dollars.
Dude, we would slay.
Okay, I'm going to do that.
Wait, don't leave it at almond milk.
It's all nuts.
Nut cream for your coffee.
Nut cream's the company.
They make the almond milk.
Nut cream for your coffee.
I'm going to go make that for April Fool's Day joke.
I'm going to go post it on the timeline and then I'll make it in Grok.
Make it in Grok and post it and then put it up top. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to post it up for April Fool's Day joke. I'm going to go post it on the timeline, and then I'll make it in Grok. Make it in Grok and post it, and then put it up top.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to post it up on the net.
Just do it.
Just do it.
I'll be like, guys, this is my new product.
At least we'll have one good one on the timeline.
She's not that hard, guys.
We're cooking them up locally.
Violeta said there's no good memes going on for April Fool's Day,
so we're cooking some up locally.
None.
Yes. So I'm looking forward to this. and emily feel free to finish your cereal you know i'll take
your time but if you it would be really cool i don't think we've had anyone anyone some nut cream
in that cereal yes we're the nut cream and then scream nuts scream at us, please. Not scream.
It's ice cream made out of nut cream.
Not scream.
Not scream.
At us.
That would be really cool, please.
But of course, feel free to say no because I know you're resting for your shows.
And I'm going to hear it on Sunday.
Super, super excited.
I guess this is going to be my second metal concert ever in my life.
So after Prodigy, yes,
which is exciting. I wasn't
even sure if Prodigy was metal or not.
Prodigy?
They're not metal.
Are they not? Yeah, they're
Prodigy's metal. You can love it.
Yeah, it's
metal. It's metal. I guess
so, but very electronic. It's metal. I guess so. But very electronic, like, right? Like,
way more electronic than, like, heavy metal, I guess. I think it was called techno back
then. It's called industrial metal. That's what it's called. Okay, great. Great. Done.
We just called everything techno back then. Techno. Everything was just called techno.
techno everything was just called techno techno great techno yeah no techno was kind of dance
music wasn't it yeah now it's like they've classified it out better but like back then
it was just like i remember just calling everything techno everything was like it was like that's
techno so if so like industrial metal was kind of like rob zombie marilyn manson was industrial
nine inch nails is industrial metal prodigy was metal, I'm trying to think of some other ones.
Rammstein was industrial metal.
You asked, Mitch.
Yeah, there you go.
Talk about a crazy concert if you want to watch something fucking nuts, excuse the pun.
He has a giant dick he brings out on it's insane like yeah like
it's crazy yeah giant giant penis doesn't he like spray the audience with it or something
yeah he like literally the audience well you gotta know if i talked about the singer from
rammstein uh he lived in my street in Berlin.
And I would see him at the convenience store with his cute little dog.
And it was the gayest dog that I've ever seen.
And you would not expect that guy to have a dog like that.
And just go buy, yeah, like Turkish nuts and things like that, you know, in Berlin.
Or like, you know, so super chill guy.
And then you see him do stuff like that on stage he was buying the Turkish nuts for the turkeys
to make his own nut cream that's thicker that theme is like the alpha today also
Yamaza was fast with that he pinned up top the thing of nut cream I don't know
you must it can you make it more like really slow we fucked it up at first
made some baby almond cream.
Can we make it more advertising?
Can we make nut cream really big in the bottom?
And put a penis on it or something.
Yeah, maybe some kind of cashew.
Put a cashew on the side of it.
Trying to be coy about it.
Put a penis with nuts made out of actual cashews.
That would be amazing.
Okay, wow. All right.
So this is what you asked for.
Why don't we talk about the market since April's fool's gone wrong today?
Yeah.
Do you think like someone posted a thing like, you know, there's been a lot of fake news
about, uh, about Bitcoin today and that the market's just reacting to all the fake news.
Seriously?
Like I said, I think we're using our power for good today.
Like, you get one wish on April Fool's Day, and everyone's just like,
hey, all this bullshit stuff is happening.
I've seen the most insane news about Bitcoin this morning,
and I'm like, oh, yeah, I can't trust anything today.
Like, but if I was an investor not realizing it was April 1st,
I would be throwing all of my life savings into Bitcoin right now,
based on the things I'm seeing on the timeline.
So it could be that.
Like, fake news about Bitcoin?
Yeah.
Like what?
Wait, wait.
Didn't the Fed, not the Fed,
didn't the government announce that they're buying a million Bitcoin soon
or something like that?
I don't know if they announced it today.
Was that April Fool's?
Like, was that a thing?
Like, I'm so confused now.
I don't know what's real.
You can't trust anything today.
I know.
The nut cream is a lie.
I went ahead and I just fucked with my ex and I sent him a text.
I haven't talked to him when I get in two months.
So I, I, um, I like sentiment text and I was like, I love you.
And then I was like, April fools, bitch.
I'm such a bitch.
Oh my God.
He laughed though. He was like you are hilarious. I was like yeah I know I just had to. He's cool though like we're on good terms. He's cool.
That's a pretty good joke. That's pretty good I would say. Mr. Yellow what about you? You've
You've always got jokes
always got a joke. What's wrong with you today? You got none. What's going on?
What's wrong with you today?
You got none
What's going on?
That's his April Fool's Day joke
Oh god
Wow, that's depressing
Yellow
Yellow
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What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What No, I was in the kitchen.
Jokes? No, not really.
No, thank you.
No, thank you. I'm good, thank you.
I'm all good.
Boring. Boring. Sorry, I pinned up top. Pulled him out.
Satoshi Bitcoin wallet moves 2,000 BTC worth 178 million for the first time since 2009.
Fake news like that.
I see. I see what you mean.
And that's not true. That's April's fool.
Probably not. I'm not wasting any time today tracking down everything.
I see. This is where it starts, people. probably not i'm not i'm not wasting any time today tracking down everything i see this is
where it starts people i'm cool with not knowing anything and thinking everything is fake for a day
or just thinking everything's real today's a fun day if you you live in a different reality where
all these fake products are real it's fun it's like a yackerson i got a super question for you
question for you. You know when you did Moonshot in front of the Eiffel Tower, how did you
do it without doing resting singer face? You were smiling and holding that for Moonshot
in front of the Eiffel Tower tower how come you can do that sometimes
it's called acting exactly thank you really she's an actress or an actor i don't know i know she's
an actress she's also a singer but like most times when she's singing she
Like
Most times when she's singing
Portrays the song's
Stuff in her eyes
Well I think
When there's a camera
Who recorded that?
Josh
Actually it was Josh
Savage
And then I did one of him
Okay So Actually, it was Josh Savage. And then I did one of him.
Just the vibe from New France. Okay, okay.
So, because it kind of showed a little bit of, like, I'm relaxed here, you know?
Well, yeah, I was purposely trying to look nice, you know?
I was purposely trying to not look...
Oh, you didn't look nice?
Rude.
Nice as in, like, a nice person, you know, not rude.
He's asking why you can't fix your face normally.
You know, here's the thing.
Like, I feel like I'm constantly misunderstood.
Like this is state I live in, you know, for multiple reasons.
One, the resting bitch face.
Okay.
Many of us have it.
Okay.
And, and we get discriminated and made fun of all the time.
That's the first thing.
Nothing you can do about it.
You know, especially if your facial features are naturally like if your mouth is naturally kind of pointing downwards.
mouth is naturally kind of pointing downwards you know what i mean like if your eyebrows are
You know what I mean?
particularly low on your forehead naturally like you're gonna look like you're mad first thing
so why am i imagining a muppet okay go ahead because if you really look additionally i have
a crooked jaw like since birth okay that's completely related to the fact that i have a crooked jaw like since birth okay that's completely related to the fact that i have um
hip dysplasia i swear to you like i'm very asymmetrical and so therefore what the my bottom
jaw is always like leaning towards one side which makes me look even more upset right so that's the
first thing nothing i can do about it guys okay i'm trying second your bottom jaw
your bottom jaw is pointing the other way yeah bottom jaw is pointing left and so slightly
misaligned with the top yeah okay and so that obviously looks like i'm like appalled you know
um and then second reason as an italian person you guys think we're mad all the time but if you watch
like a documentary of like really italian people speaking english or even speaking italian to each
other they look like they're arguing all the time but they really aren't you know what i mean
so they really just being uh enthusiastic and i get so much shit for that but people like oh my god like
people think we're fighting and i'm like we're not fighting and then i say my italian came out
and they're like what does that mean and i'm like exactly that like i didn't like you know what i
mean i didn't code switch enough to be like really really nice and not be italian about it because i
want to be like talking with my hands and getting up in your face and be like, you're crazy.
Exactly.
Thank you, Cristiano.
And so the combination of those two things
makes it so that I have the resting singing face even more.
And on top of that, I'm singing, right?
So the face needs to move based on the sound that i want to make and so there we go
and you're all talking over her that's true while she's playing and so even if she any of those
things weren't true she would be making that face shut the fuck up and let her play her music
yeah so so it goes you know but um i'm learning to i'm learning to try and control it,
you know, and try not to
look that way, and so
with that video, when there's a camera,
you are more, like, sensitive
to that kind of thing.
Understood, Mr. Yellow?
It's not a criticism.
It was just...
I was just asking. A what? a criticism. It was just... A what?
A criticism?
A criticism?
It's not a little criticism.
It's not a criticism.
It's not.
It's not a criticism.
I fucking hate Violeta.
I swear to God, she comes in here and she just hates being a fucking bitch.
You know, I think bitch is a great word.
And I think it can be an affectionate term.
And I just think that people need to recognize that.
Just saying.
Agreed. And we can talk about if you want guys oh here's one thing I saw that is kind of like mob related that I don't know
how I feel about it to be honest here's this Mr. Yellow King of England Charles just did a commercial For apple music
How do we feel about that
Wait why
Wait who what
The gun should stay the fuck
Out of music
Wait
Who king charles
King of english
Like the spaniel
Oh no okay Like a king charles King Charles. King Charles. King of England. Like the Spaniel. Oh, no. Okay.
Like a King Charles Spaniel. The King. You know, the King of England.
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. No, the King. You know him?
King Charles of England. I love one of those dogs so bad.
The King of England, right? The son of Queen Elizabeth. Why in the name of baby Jesus would that man do a commercial? What is going on
in today's world? That's what I'm asking. I actually know the person. Why didn't they just
get Andrew Tate at that point? What are they doing? What are they doing over there? I don't know.
But, like, it's this partnership.
And they posted it.
Like, Buckingham Palace Instagram account.
Okay?
And already that is, like, dystopian.
What?
Buckingham Palace Instagram.
When I'm walking my mom's corgis, I like to listen to Drake.
Exactly.
Did a collab post with Apple Music.
And it's King Charles and his King office talking of music.
I decided to share my favorite playlist with, like, I.
And it's like Kendrick Lamar.
What demographic are these people going?
Like, what is the, what's the play here?
Like, I don't, I don't understand.
We're with it. What is it? I mean, are they going after the people that still like buy magazines at the checkout with the king? Those like magazines that have all the, you know what I'm talking about?
Like all of the like tabloids.
Yeah.
Are they going for that demographic, which is like 50 and over, I guess, at this point?
If they were, they would do an AI video of him being a reptile.
Yes, that would be very good.
That would be very good. Yeah. Yeah. Are they going for that demographic, which is like 50 and over, I guess, at this point? If they were, they would do an AI video of him being a reptile.
Yes, that would be very good.
That would be very good, yeah.
I think that would be a better play.
Great April Fool's Day joke, right?
He just pulls off a mask and he's just like a reptilian.
Yeah, but you know, it couldn't be April Fool's because I think that's really true.
It is, but then no one would believe us for another 20 years.
It'd be fucking checkmated.
Yeah, I know.
They should hire me.
That's true. Yeah, they know. They should hire me.
Yeah, they really should, though.
Okay, you guys want to hear the commercial?
See what Charles has to say about music?
Yes, please.
Yes, please do.
Please play it. I based my opinions on the royal family.
This is exciting.
Okay, here we go.
Oh, I'm so excited.
This pad is to perform this song in 2012.
Hold on.
What?
Oh, my God.
Oh, how do I?
God damn it.
This was to like John Phillips do some marches on Spotify.
Who came to St. James's Palace to perform this song in 2012.
Song is the locomotion.
And this is music for dance.
Bruh.
Again, it has that infectious energy, which makes it, I find incredibly hard to sit still.
What the fuck?
Never would have guessed that.
The King's Music Group.
Okay, shut up.
Where did you find that?
Because I want to change the music that's playing in the background and make it one of my songs.
Oh, my God.
That got me in April Fool's joke.
Actual Kyle Vino.
Wait, was it in April Fool's joke, V?
No, no, no, no.
It was real.
He got the Buckingham Palace guards, the ones with the big hat and everything,
play that song outside. I actually know the person. Are they allowed to dance or do they get shot for that? guards, the ones with the big hat and everything, like,
play that song outside.
I actually know the person... Are they allowed to dance?
Or do they get shot for that?
Are they doing the locomotion in the hats?
They're dancing. They can't smile.
That's hilarious.
Dude, it is hilarious.
Like, I was like... He used to dance with his mom to that song.
You know it. Yeah, but I feel like if the queen was still around,
like, she would never
allow this kind of thing because no like nowadays these companies you don't know which political
side they're going to turn okay based on their interest they all do that you know and so for
the royal family of england to like associate themselves directly with a big tech company like
like apple even though apple is pretty like harmless and innocent sort of in the middle but do they have any real power the king and queen it's not about power it's really
about the image right they mr yellow can speak more about that yeah they can sway in the room
you know they want to preserve all of this shit they have no power they have no power. They have no influence. They have no nothing. That's what they want you to think.
Like, seriously.
Okay, so is this Apple playing a joke on him
and like, I bet we can get this idiot to do this
and then he's doing it?
Apple playing this joke
is just like
people from,
you know,
what's his name's island
all going together. Epstein or richard branson epstein epstein sorry
richard branson then he also has um that's ocm here listen throughout my life music has meant a great deal to me it has that remarkable ability to bring happy memories
comfort us and to take us to distant places
but perhaps above all it could lift our spirits to such a degree
and all the more so when it brings us together in celebration he is not playing Bob Marley right now.
That's evil.
That's evil.
This seemed such an interesting and innovative way to celebrate this year's Commonwealth Day.
Of course.
Thank you for listening.
I wish you all every possible blessing.
And the first song in his play...
What the actual song?
We played the song about the young Jamaican man that he wrote about how our country destroyed his people.
And we decided to take that.
Well, Bob did go there in exile for a bit.
That's the one that we decided
to have the white guys
in the fuzzy hat play.
I'm just saying that Andrew Tate would have been better.
Bro, he's playing
Bob Marley.
He's not better than anything.
I don't know.
I just think that anything would have been better than that.
I mean, I think that that has to be an April Fool's joke,
right? Like, doesn't it?
No, this has been going on for a while.
They're posting, it's like a series of video content
that they are releasing little by little.
And it's truly like a thing that the King of England
is now doing.
Like he's an influencer now you know what i mean
like yes the world the world is going to shit
this is ridiculous like like the pope doesn't the pope of the Vatican have like TikTok as well?
Are you serious?
The Pope's definitely got a Snapchat. He's definitely
snapping kids in the middle of the night.
Okay, that's hilarious.
That's really funny. He's also tweeting.
You have a Snapchat? It's just the Pope on Omegle.
Pope Francis tweets.
I swear, he's on X.
Dude, I don't know if I
can live in this world anymore
When is Mars going to be?
When can we go to Mars?
Somebody just sent me to Mars already
Jesus Christ
Guys, I found the Pope's Burner account
I'm not sharing it
He's going to DM you, Cristiano
He's liked some weird stuff
You're too old for him, though
Yeah, no He has no interest in stuff. You're too old for him, though.
Yeah, no.
He has no interest in me.
And you're a lesbian.
And I'm a lesbian, exactly.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm a gay man, so he might go for me.
We would make great beards for each other.
Yep, exactly.
I'm just not sure where all this is going, fam.
Because, um, like, do you guys... Hell in a handbasket. But do you guys think he got paid for this or fam because um like do you got hell in a handbasket but do
you guys think he got paid for this or what like do you think a hundred percent a hundred percent
he got paid for that so you can write that for free you can a company like apple can
like hire the king of england for a commercial like yeah their money's green. Where's the integrity? I mean, I mean, is there
any integrity? What's integrity? Like, let's really think about that. I died with Steve Jobs.
Yeah. Tim Cook never promised to have integrity. Yeah. I think Steve Jobs took that with him to
the grave. Facts. Like, that was his thing. Like, they were like, the boss is dead. Ooh,
we're just going to sell out so hard. And they've just, they haven't really invented anything since
Steve Jobs' last invention with Apple Vision. they haven't really invented anything since steve job's last invention with apple vision they haven't yeah anything if you really think
about that it's crazy they haven't they can't innovate anymore they're just like uh what's
samsung doing let's do that but make it like oh my god also like that means the king didn't really look into apple music's payment model
um you know and i was a big fan of the royal family to be honest with you
like i'm a fan of them you know i like them i like the why i just like the way why yeah i just
need to know why i'm a fan of darth vader like why i'm a fan of Darth Vader. I'm a fan of Darth Vader, so don't even get me started on that.
But why are you a fan of the royal family?
What was the draw there?
I'm curious.
I just like how it's very, like it's stuck in the past, right?
And something.
It's inbred, girl.
It's inbred, girl. It's inbred.
Some things I liked at a state,
you know, the same for millennia,
you know, and it's such a staple
for that country and like...
So the nostalgia plays,
what kind of gets you?
Yeah, and I really liked how they,
especially Queen Elizabeth,
like she had a lot of integrity you know she was always composed and always you know playing her role very well i admire
her you know what i mean and the whole like royal family the fact that the monarchy like that to me
is intriguing like it's charming it's a charming thing um and so now seeing King Charles selling out, especially for Apple Music, that triggers me the wrong way.
You know what I mean?
Like, I feel betrayed.
He wasn't paid.
I feel betrayed.
But even if it wasn't paid, then that's even worse because I'm like...
It's a promotion for his new playlist called The King's Room with King Charles.
Like, it's a thing he's doing to show off his eclectic music taste.
I'm reading the weirdest shit ever.
This is nuts. Just Google it.
I want them to know about the locomotion.
It makes no fucking sense.
Yeah, yeah, Google this shit. It's fucking nuts.
It makes no fucking sense.
The people need to know about the locomotion.
Exactly. He's like, let me tell them about the locomotion.
The locomotion. It gets your body moving.
Dude, that song came out like 200 weeks ago.
Come on, do it. Use the locomotion. It gets your body moving. Dude, that song came out like 200 years ago.
Come on, do it. Use a locomotion.
Me and mother used to peter around the house with the corgis and dance to this song.
I've had to sell the corgis recently to pay some bills.
Can they do a TikTok dance to their playlist? Because I think that would go viral.
So I think that's the next thing.
I think it's hit my fall off It's like Songs to Colonize To.
The playlist is Songs to Colonize To.
Songs to Colonize To.
Oh my God.
Someone do that song with the ships arriving.
Hilarious.
It's called The King's Room,
but somebody should fucking change it Songs to Colonize To.
That would be so great.
That's everything.
That's everything.
Introducing my new playlist.
Only for today.
April Fool's Day.
Now that's what I call colonialism, part one.
But they don't do that anymore.
You know?
Yeah, they totally don't.
Not anymore.
I promise.
Okay, it's not because they were the only ones that colonized everybody.
I mean, they colonized most of the world. They perfected it. They were the best at it. Yeah, they were very good at
what they did. The Romans invented it and they perfected it. But so is Darth Vader. He was very
good at what he did, too, so let's just remember that. I don't know if you looked into this. If you
trace the Romans, though, and where the Romans went, the Roman Empire actually never ended. It
actually just went and became Brittany and became England. Yeah, that doesn't surprise
me. Everything
either evolves
or dies, and it never really dies.
Then they sent their biggest lunatics over here
to colonize this area.
I actually think that
Darth Vader was...
Go over there. They're like, okay, let's go get them.
If you look at Darth Vader's lineage, he probably
dates back to the colonization of the Britons.
I don't know.
But I'm just saying, there's probably somewhere in there.
But yeah.
Yeah, I mean, his whole empire was an allegory for the British Empire.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Oh, good time.
Bring them to me.
I love Darth Vader.
I thought Darth Vader...
I had such a crush on Darth Vader. You would. You were like, yeah, to me. I love Darth Vader. I thought Darth Vader, I had such a crush on Darth Vader.
You would.
You were like, yeah, choke me.
I was like, yeah, choke me, baby.
It was like, it was the whole thing.
There was a whole thing.
Choke me for not crying, baby.
It was, I could tell you stories.
Okay, I'm not going to, but like, it was a whole thing.
All right, one story?
No, no stories, because that's just another realm that we don't need to go into right now
V is gonna be like shutting this room down if I start talking like that
So I mean there are chains in the others for blockchain
Oh go ahead extinct go ahead
Go ahead, Extinct.
Go ahead.
Did you have a joke
Did you have a joke?
No, I was just going to say we should all just start breathing heavy.
It might turn Emily on.
You know what's funny?
I didn't read something.
I didn't.
Oh, that's kind of nice.
Emily walked by someone on a respirator.
She's like, what's happening?
Shut up.
That's hilarious.
Okay, wait. Can't take up. That's hilarious. Okay.
Can't take her to a nursing home. You can't take me to a nursing home. Okay. So,
that's funny. Okay. Wait, wait, I did read something about cheese that I want to put out into the room today. So apparently it's not nut cheese, but that's, we should package that okay so wait so um cheese apparently eating cheese
does something to your brain similar to what taking hard drug does and i love cheese so i i'm
like and i did have like you know i did you know kind of like participate in hard drugs when i was
like in my teens and early 20s yeah teens early 20s yeah you know I
don't do that shit anymore no I'm clean and sober I have been for a while but like but I like it's
crazy that that stimulates the certain parts of your brain that hard drugs did and and I am like
addicted to cheese addiction is real 100% then yeah yeah no this is I yeah You're like that that mouse from a Chippendale's Rescue Rangers who's just like
The Chippendale rescue is a show back in there was that rat who was the other guy was his name Monterey
He was addicted to cheese. Yeah, and he'd smell the cheese and he'd start going crazy in the eyes. And he would just push every way.
Yeah, that's me.
Yeah, it was just straight cheese addiction.
Yeah.
What was the name of the rat?
What was his name?
Monty or something like that?
Was it Monty?
His name was Monterrey Jack.
Monterrey Jack.
Oh, Monterrey Jack.
Like the cheese.
Yeah, but he was like the heavy set pilot guy.
He was like their version of Launchpad from DuckTales.
He was like the comic-related schmuck. i love ducktales that was one of my favorite shows
the duck he's like swimming through the gold wasn't that in the intro song yeah it's my favorite part
yeah it's great yeah there was this whole thing that um someone actually broke down like how much
money scrooge mcduck has and everything like that and based on that and it turns out like
All that money that basically like he runs the I don't know
It was like Walt was telling me it but he was like that's just what he takes in per day
He said every day that vault empties out and that's just how much money that Scrooge McDuck takes in per day
I don't know how like how they said like they established it in the shower at some
It was an episode. I was about to say they
Yeah
Yep, he's like this is just the daily haul for the day and this is all gonna be emptied out Established it in the shower at some it was an episode. I was about to say they
He's like this is just the daily hall for the day and this is all gonna be emptied out So we swim that is crazy. I don't know why he has to swim in your money before it goes back out
That's kind of strange. He's just like your hands and it's touching me like that's probably the filth
Yeah, he's kind of weird he rolls around in your money then sends a fetish. Yeah, I think he's kind of weird. He rolls around in your money and then sends it back out.
Yeah, I mean, you know, like I've never rolled around in dollar bills on a bed before.
I mean, but if you dove into those coins, like you'd be in serious pain.
Like you'd probably just break your neck instantly.
I'd just pull out my crypto wallet and just roll around on my phone.
Yeah, there you go.
And then I accidentally hit the wrong button and sell.
And I'm like, no, no.
You sell the whole thing.
Hilarious.
You just put a bunch of ledgers on the bed and you just like roll around on the ledgers.
Oh, yeah, baby.
And write one Bitcoin on them.
And then I put them on the bed and they roll around.
Yeah, there you go.
That would be a funny video, actually.
Right. Yeah. Just roll around with orange post-its. That would be a funny video actually You do that video
And you intersperse it with some DuckTales
Video of him diving into the thing
There you go your first
Vine Christiano
Your first vine ever guys I did it
I'm gonna be a star
Why are we like this?
You can't take us anywhere, B.
You guys ever think about, like, the royal family,
how they're just, like, this glorified fishbowl
for everyone to look at?
All the time.
A hundred percent.
I think a lot about the queen, like, shedding her mortal coil
and then just going underground underneath Buckingham Palace
and hanging upside down and laying eggs.
And then we just buried the skin.
You know?
Like a cockroach or something sheds its exoskeleton.
Wait, does that mean that she is a reptile then?
Yeah, I think she's underground.
I don't think she died. I think she went underground to lay eggs.
Guys.
Yeah, that might track.
Be respectful.
The royal family is a really old, old, old institution, honestly.
Like, we should respect them.
Wait till you look up what they've done.
I know.
You know, there are a lot of institutions that are old, V, that I don't respect.
You know, like, for example, like, Nazism.
It's not a really good institution, but. Like, for example, like Nazism. But who do you think funded the Nazis?
That's who funded Hitler.
The royal family funded Hitler?
Yes.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
They did.
Yeah, that's true.
Like, literally, if we don't like Hitler, why would we like the people that fund Hitler?
Does it make sense?
History is weird sometimes.
You know what i mean
but i'm not talking also took him out yes uh there's that too america took him out
churchill didn't he live in south america till he died like isn't that like really a thing
Yeah, Argentina.
yeah argentina so nobody ever took him out he just went and retired exactly
So nobody ever took him out.
He just went and retired.
Exactly.
He's chilling, having drinks with Tupac in Argentina.
Okay, that said, I did want to bring up something actually of a, like, worthy of a conversation.
Because it did, sorry, not the, you know, the stuff that we just.
We're not worthy.
We're not worthy.
How dare you.
It was great. No, don't get me wrong. it was great no no it was great like we needed
to get it out of our system you know what i mean this whole like nut milk and like you know
all this was yeah very important very important not cream it's just what we needed for today so I'm glad we could do that. Merman! Very very love that for us.
Merman!
However, I have been feeling conflicted, right, about the Ghibli controversy.
The memes that have been going around everyone using ChatGPT to create anime images of themselves or their family, etc.
And there is this video of Miyazaki, the creator, 10 years ago,
really, really talking badly about AI, calling it the death of the arts
and, you know, being very opposed to it.
um little did he know that in 10 years time uh one of the first uh ai made uh functions you know
Little did he know that in 10 years' time,
about art that would be the first one to go really really viral like all the news is talking about it
all over the world like outside of all the niches and not a niche thing right it's massive so at
first when i first saw it i was like damn this is bad you know initially I was really like this is this is bad you know I would never want that to happen to my
art or my music at all I think this is you know this is very very like we're
doomed kind of thing but then I did see that a lot of people got to know who he
is and that animation studio and all the
amazing movies they made and then they actually went and watched the movies and
bought the movies like Spirited Away or etc right so I'm even more conflicted
right now because I don't really know what's right and what's wrong I tend to
lean towards what is right is what the creator wants and not what
other people have imposed and not what happens necessarily just because he's making more sales
that's not if that's not what he wanted is not necessarily what's good um I do think that oh my
god wouldn't it be nice if uh there was um an immutable ledger on which you could put your original art
and then you know the you could verify what the originals are um yeah i would love to hear
people's thoughts on this because i am conflicted like it is you know it is kind of a strange
situation yes his he got disrespected in a way i I guess. That's how I tend to see it.
But at the same time, it did do probably good for his business. So any thoughts on this? Because it
could happen for our music. I think it reminds me of like, remember, like when the weekend launched
or it was a Drake, I think it was Drake, or maybe it was me, I don't know, or it was one of those
guys. And they released everything for like their first mixtape or whatever was free so like they
just put it out there they just like just take it and make it viral and like this kind of reminds
me a little bit of that it's like a weird marketing play that shouldn't have worked but kind of worked
um so i think that you know it's kind of like evolve or die with tech
right now so it's kind of like you can't fight this shit like you kind of have to just lean into
it and use it for what you can because it's going to happen no matter what there's no stopping the
train the train is going like so it's either okay how do you use the train for good or how do you
use it it's like the force with darth vader like you can use the
force for evil or you can use the force for good right so like use the force guys use it for the
way you want to i just got aroused i don't know why me too yeah no i agree um but i don't know
like do we know if there was some sort of deal that they'd made?
Like if that was legal, what's been happening? Do we know that?
I don't think they made a deal. I think it just kind of came from the depths of the bullshit and it kind of rose up and it did what it did.
But I don't think there was a deal. I mean, what kind of deal could they make?
I don't know.
But is it legal for open AI to be able
to replicate that stuff infinitely?
I mean, there is specific style.
They can scrape from anywhere.
So unless it's off-limit.
Unless they're, okay, so trademarks or copyrights are only good as to how they're enforced.
If you don't have the money to enforce them, if you make a copyright, nobody cares.
If you go and you actually enforce them.
In music, with samples or with music, there's a lot of people that sue other people.
Like, hey, you stole my song to make your song. And it becomes like a big thing.
So like, I don't know, I think it's the same sort of thing over here, it comes down to who's going
to enforce it. So if you're not going to spend the money to enforce it, is it you know what I'm
saying? Yeah, they probably have the money, I would say, to enforce it. It's all about money
too, right? It's like, if you're not making money off of your derivative work then it's it's not really a problem because there's nothing to really like
sue over right but if you are making money and and it gets into the nebulous state because it's
like are people who are engagement farming using the ghibli stuff are they making money because
like they are on those posts you know what i mean so it gets into a weird territory right if your
accounts monetize but i guess like if you're not you know infringing on their right to make money and trying to cause market confusion where someone would
think that it's actually them when they didn't you know license that that's where you get into like
hot water i mean but once you create an ai image with the platform most of these tell you it's
yours to use they own it but you can use it commercially right they own the content but the
problem with the monetization on here is it's absolute fucking bullshit and I think there was a space on this
maybe here recently and I didn't get a chance but like everybody's monetizing
other people's content there's nobody on here really monetizing their own
content everybody's own content doesn't get views the only views together them
sharing other people's shit that they didn't fucking create and they're a
bunch of shit fluencers with hundreds of thousands of followers right in youtube that shit would be
taken down immediately right like instantly yeah they have content i do this you cannot monetize
this we have a tech that recognizes this as not yours bullshit it's down you're gone do it again
you lose the right to post right do it while you're streaming you're never allowed to stream
again right literally you get one warning and then you're done from YouTube.
This platform is a joke.
If they actually looked into it, they would get sued beyond all belief.
And like it wouldn't even be the user getting sued at this point.
It's just a broken system that's not fucking doing it right.
So, Elon, like this is a nightmare for fucking.
And I watch it every day and I laugh.
I'm like, these idiots are sharing somebody else's shit. Even if it's theirs, right?
They don't get credit for that. That other person is not
getting credit for those impressions unless
I click their name in that
little tiny thing under the video that'll drive
me to their real video. Then they get the impression,
right? It's so fucked up. The system's broken.
Do you think that's something that we should push for? Because like, I have
a lot of the devs and stuff, they all
follow me and stuff because of the Vine things. Like,
a push for a content ID system.
Yeah, but Elon would never let it happen.
And first off, that costs money.
It costs money.
No, but it could make them money.
They got to pay for that shit.
If I can pitch it to them
that it can make them money,
because the truth is
they're going to make a ton of money
by having the advertisers come in
and know that they can, you know,
make sure that their stuff
and the content creators...
Yeah, I guess, yeah.
They would have to use the brand.
No, but it also goes against
their narrative, Cristiano,
because like his
narrative with the access free speech and free this it's all like this fucking weird ass narrative
well emily except for drawing penises because i tried to make a penis for you on the carton and
it started to draw it it got just the tip literally just the tip and then it stopped it made you a
video by the way i mean just yeah i just saw that just the tip is nice okay whatever i thought mine
wouldn't load i was like
huh i don't okay i don't know about penises but i'm just saying like i mean i i know that it's
like i mean look you see no you're right you can see sex on on x like there's like people like
people all over x like i mean you can't spell sex without x well so the rule the rule on that is
and i know this because when my old account got taken down i was like what the fuck you could post porn straight up as long as it's you in the video and it's labeled as such
you could do it okay well there you go i mean that's why i just i just don't think that they're
gonna do anything that goes against like there's freedom of speech and then
you can just not monetize it you can just turn off copyright infringement right so it's like
for them to be taken seriously as a content platform and be the youtube killer and all this
stuff like they've been making a more robust analytics platform now for the video and also
for spaces i don't know if you guys know but you're gonna have a spaces analytics now so
hopefully retroactively will be able to see, um, you know,
all the people that were in our spaces, total ghost centers and stuff.
That's going to be really cool for the hosts. Um,
cause we used to have super spaces, right? And that was gone.
So like we've been tracking a lot of the stuff that they've been doing and it's
all, a lot of it's analytics based and video based.
And it just really looks like they're,
they're trying to be like a tick tock killer and a YouTube killer.
And you can't do that without content ID. You know what I mean?
Like you have to be able to guarantee that brands and content creators can protect their work here and protect their music.
And, you know, and like maybe do a system like YouTube where it's like I can choose to block it or I can leave it up and take that money.
Like I have a system on YouTube.
It's called the content management system, CMS.
And I have it from back in 2012, but it allows me to roll up different channels or take, you know, my music and say,
hey, if anyone uses my music or my videos or anything
and, you know, they go to make money off of it,
let them keep it up and give me the money.
You know, or I could say just block it in all those countries
or block it in certain countries,
monetize it in certain countries, right?
And so, like, I could do that for me and my friends right now
because I have that system,
but there's only, like, 20 people that still have that system.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's not a very common, it is maybe it is more common but like
there's not a lot of multi-channel networks left and it's more like an advertiser and publisher
tool you know what i mean it's not it's not a public tool so it's like like that's the kind
of thing where like if that was a public tool or even for businesses or brand accounts here i think
it could actually like let's say it was for brand accounts and they were like if you get the gold check mark you get to use content id they would
make them a lot of money you know what i mean be a good way to upsell that gold check mark for them
i guess yeah um ip ip nerd hi that sounds uh hey so you guys are talking about something that I've put in a lot of thought into.
So when it comes to these social media platforms, I don't believe that we'll ever have a perfect social media platforms that you simply find where your type of creativity is rewarded the best
and you're able to find your tribe or your community there. And then you could basically
go where creativity is most rewarded. With these platforms, all they can do is create the best
incentives for rewarding the actual creativity. But there'll never be a perfect
system for rewarding creativity because it's what's called intangible. In other words,
it can't be quantified. And because it can't be quantified, you'll never be able to match
the numbers to the emotions of the audience. However, the better aligned your procedures are
with creativity, the more market share your platform will gain. So ultimately, they'll never
be a perfect platform. However, certain platforms will be gaining market share and certain platforms
will be losing market share. And the better you align yourself with the creators will determine where you fit into that map of, you know, how
things kind of like fall in line. And that's just pretty much my thoughts that I wanted to kind of
contribute to the room and see where it goes. I totally agree. I mean, it's going to be a
delicate balance, right? Like we talk about
it sometimes in the Vine spaces. There's what platform gives you the most immediate dopamine
hit. Like it's fun to use. Like Vine was very, very fun to create with, right? You know,
TikTok's tools can be really fun. The AR tools, the lenses and stuff. So even if it doesn't do
well, you had fun shooting it, right? But then it's like, which ones, you know, dole out the
most engagement, right? So TikTok will just give you fake likes and stuff like that to get you addicted to
coming back so if you stop using the platform as a creator for a couple days you'll see this massive
influx in likes and you'll be like what is this oh my god i just start creating again look at all
these likes and that's those are fake that's on purpose that's designed to get you hooked as a
creator and get you hooked to a toxic lifestyle which is being a content creator right but then there's also you know the monetization of it and
so it's like tiktok's found a way to hook you so they don't even have to pay you youtube hooks
people by paying them right they're like all right we're going to become part of your monetization
your financial strategy so you're going to have to live with us because you're going to build your
business on youtube right so it's like there's all different ways to kind of like hook us and
get us but the truth is there is so much more money for them to be made on prosumers,
which is like consumers who think that they're professionals.
And that's what an influencer is.
And that's what a content creator is.
And they found a way to like be like, oh, there's billions of them now.
There's billions of people who think that they're going to be the next TikTok star.
And let's sell them CapCut for $25.
I am a star.
Well, you will be if you buy Cap cap cut for $25. I am a star. Well, you will be if you buy
a cap cut for $25. But the thing is, even like you don't have to be a TikTok star now. Like you
can be a micro influencer and still get a lot of brand endorsements because the market share is
leaning towards micro and macro influencers to do their product like marketization marketization yeah because because those
influencers actually get more they get retainment because the other the bigger
real followers that was my bread versus somebody with like 50 you know like some
fuck yeah like yeah exactly look at what violetta did in the
space and like the money that she created created like within the space compared to somebody that
like has like all these you know like whatever bots or like whatever the fuck yeah because there's
that law of diminishing returns you get too many followers you start to get into where a percentage
of them are bots and so it's like you'll have someone with – I used to literally do this, right?
I would hire influencers, quote-unquote, content creators to do brand deals and things.
And it was like I wouldn't like to work with the big ones because they would get the same engagement rate as someone with 100,000 followers.
And so I was like, why am I paying extra?
Well, like lower rate, same number, same volume.
Yeah, you have 5 million followers, and I'm going to pay you $15,000 to make a Vine.
But I could pay someone with 100,000 followers $300300 and they're going to get the same amount of engagement.
And then I could pay, yeah, I could pay 30 people with 100,000 followers who never get any brand deals.
You know what I mean?
And pay them double their normal rate.
The thing about TikTok that's crazy is they got the, they got the users to pay, right?
Like they're like, well, we don't need advertisers to pay.
The users just throw fucking gifts at these idiots and they'll fucking pay them but like the crazy thing is like
like there is a way to do it they say you monetize mathematically right like like youtube like they
have it they they have the formula right they it works and if you yeah but they don't want to cut
you in on their business they screwed over the creator absolutely like that was a that was a big
problem but like
that would work if elon wanted to implement but here's the problem is you people don't realize
he's not paying anybody advertising revenue there's no ad revenue here all those fucking
ads running are coming from google those cpms are like two to three dollars the money you make here
comes from the premiums that everyone else pays exactly that's where your money comes from gold
check marks those are paying the influencers it's a fucking ponzi scheme it's a goddamn pyramid scheme it's goddamn oh it's
we're paying to keep it broken it's so bad we're paying to keep it broken like he needs to do
department of government efficiency but it needs to be like department of x efficiency like docs
or something and like yeah you know what i mean and actually come in here and do it for his own
company because the truth is with his advertising right because you're exactly right it's like
you shouldn't be having all the taxpayers just paying the
influencers and then we don't get to decide if they're good or not or who gets paid it's just
like it goes i know but nobody realizes that they're the ones paying these influencers right
if you've never gotten a check or any money or penny from twitter and you have a blue check mark
like i do right i do it so i can stream because he takes away features so that you can't use them
but if you have a blue check mark and you've never been given a check and you watch all these assholes sharing their big checks in your face, you're paying them.
You're fucking paying them.
If you let them troll you and rage bait you and then you reply to them, that's what they get paid on.
You're literally just handing them your money directly because they get paid on blue checkmarks replying to their posts.
So they're going to post the most controversial stuff, the most rage baitity stuff and trick you every time be like music nfts are dead right
and then we're all us blue check mark people yeah yeah yeah we need to reach right so we go in there
we're like music nfts aren't dead take our money and they're like bro another day at the engagement
farm the chickens are always good for eggs you nailed a huge thing that everybody's sharing
right a metric that they show you is your, how many, what percentage of your followers are blue
check marks?
Get them up.
Why?
That will get you paid because only blue check marks pay you.
Nailed it.
Only impressions from a blue check mark will get you paid on this platform.
That's why you have to find a way to trigger people that are paying for their reach here.
Right?
If you can find ways to trigger influencers or post stuff for content creators, like Alex
Finn, stop being NFT guy.
He just posts about the algorithm and the people who follow him are people who are trying to be monetized so he's getting all these replies
you know and he's asking questions at the end of his post like what do you think is going to be the
best part of the change and they're all replying to try to engagement farm off of him and he's
telling them you need to be a reply guy you should try it on this post below you know exactly my
post and so he's getting paid like here's your practice reply guy post you motherfucker these
guys here's the thing these are
the guys that are selling you the books on how to get rich by writing a book about getting rich
right at the end of the book it says write a book about getting rich that's how i get the course
they're the course creators yeah and they did the same thing on clubhouse you guys remember that and
they would sell all the courses on clubhouse everybody loves these guys what's that dildo's
name him and his brother are here. I fucking hate them.
The Krasinskians.
No, no, no, no. They don't try to sell books.
Who are the guys? They're huge MAGA guys, too.
What the fuck? I can't think of his name.
I fucking hate them. I go after them anytime I see them.
Andrew Tate?
No, he blocked me, though.
I challenged him to a fight once.
I got blocked instantly.
The Mario brothers?
No, they're like... They have an Italian name. me though. I challenged him to a fight once. I got blocked. The Mario Brothers? No.
I tried to join. They have an Italian name.
You know what was funny?
The Cardones.
The Cardones. Yeah.
The Cardones.
Sorry.
No, it's funny. I went on
Andrew Tate's War Room and I tried to join
but at first they thought I was
the guy so they were going to bring me in and I was like, yes, I want to get in this war room
because, but then they kind of found me out.
But like, I wanted, yeah, I wanted to get in the war, but they don't allow women in
there for obvious reasons.
I didn't lower my larynx.
Fucking ass.
It's held in Saudi Arabia.
Why don't they, why don't they let women in they don't allow women
into the war room like it's a it's a thing you have to pay for to get into wait emily quickly
one or two what number one or number two what are you talking about am i peeing or pooping
what's going on bathroom yeah i'm in the bathroom i'm just I'm just like putting on some makeup and foundation right now. I'm like, yeah
I'm not why did it sound echoey? Yes, it sounds like you're like in the Batcave
I mean it sounds echoey but way too much for a bathroom
I feel I don't know
Wait, can you guys hear me now? How do I turn off the vocal shit on this?
You'll see on a very very top. There's a little thing that says X controls right under
Wait where?
Are you on an iPhone?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You swipe down from the top right, you know, get your control center out, and then go to the top middle now.
And it says X controls.
See the very, very top in the middle?
It's all tiny, and it says X controls.
You hit that now.
And it's got...
Wait, the tiny, the three dots at the top?
No, you got to swipe down from your top right of your screen to open your control panel.
You're on an iPhone, right?
Yeah.
First do that.
Wait, now I can't hear you guys.
You got to swipe down from the top right on your phone to do like control panel.
She can't hear us.
I'm dumb.
Emily.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay, wait
So what am I doing?
You know what?
It's okay
Like
I couldn't hear you
I gotta pee though, guys
I love it
I'm not peeing
I'm not peeing
It's not happening
I'll mute my mic
If I'm gonna take a piss
Jesus Christ
Okay, guys
We have a hand
We have a hand
We're being super disrespectful
IP nerd Please just interrupt Because You guys are not being Okay, guys, we have a hand. We have a hand. We're being super disrespectful.
IP nerd, please just interrupt.
You guys are not being disrespectful. You guys are just completely vibing.
And I'm one of the more patient people on the app.
So I'm one of the few people you don't have to apologize to. But simply giving me the mic was all the apology I needed.
Simply giving me the mic was all the apology I needed.
So ultimately, every economy is a circle economy because really it is.
It's a finite of resources divided by a finite of people fueled by future expectations.
Now, when you talk about selling a course, you can.
But a lot of people, they always focus on course buying and course preparing.
But what Violetta did, which was focus on course buying and course preparing.
But what Violetta did, which was different, is she didn't write a course.
She executed a course.
In other words, there was a new medium, NFTs, and that voice with that product equaled that amount of number.
So she did it.
She was doing it subconsciously without even realizing it, that she was just executing a course, and then the people almost wrote the course on her behalf.
Yeah, she is a master class.
Exactly.
So that's what I was getting at is ultimately what's in the creator's best interest is almost like if we had a community ledger of all the different platforms and all the different strategies. Because right now, as you already mentioned, X and YouTube,
especially YouTube, they don't have enough incentives to give up their secret sauce.
But one of the things that Chris alluded to is,
okay, well, if you're trying to monetize,
YouTube is offering the best monetization.
However, a lot of people tried YouTube
and they didn't get any discoverability.
But if you want discoverability, TikTok offers amazing discoverability.
But a lot of people are getting discovered and not getting paid.
And what that means is that somebody tried YouTube, failed, went on TikTok, got discovered,
went to YouTube, and started getting more monetization on YouTube because they figured out a new combination
that worked for their particular voice and their particular content at that particular time.
Ultimately, what would best serve the creator community is if there were some kind of alliance
where everybody basically fundled all the notes to all the platforms going,
hey, this is their system.
This is how they work.
And then the community is basically able to access this information as a depository and then chart the course that's best for them based on what they're looking to achieve.
Now, some people will make it.
Some people won't.
However, more people's energy will be respected if they at least knew the rules
of the road. And one of the things about Elon, we're here on X, his favorite book is, you know,
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. That book means he's kind of susceptible to that type of thinking
because whether he realizes it or not, he kind of views that the galaxy is this giant smorgasbord of things.
And where do we end up? And the final answer is 42, which almost doesn't make any sense. So the,
you know, the reader has to basically make their own sense of it. So, so ultimately what the
creators need the most is the creators don't have, is they don't have, you know, this guide to the galaxy, you know, some kind of
depository. And I'm going to land my plane here where it's a living embodied document where
everybody basically spills the tea, you know, and usually they're going to spill the tea with
what they used to work doesn't work anymore. That's usually when they start spilling the tea
when it's working. It's kind of like Lord of the Rings. They hoard it and they keep it a secret because of this deep down fear that they'll never be able
to catch lightning in a bottle more than once. But because we are the most connected we've ever
been, you know, as a species and as a planet, I would have not suggested this years ago,
even though I thought of it. But under these market conditions and, you know, maybe even using the blockchain as a public decentralized ledger. So that way we'd have a little bit more verifiableness, you know, of these procedures that we're suggesting. I think we're at the perfect time to actually attempt it.
it. Now, will it work perfectly? No. But is there a potential to have the best, you know,
synergy ever created until somebody else comes up with even a better synergy, you know, make
because innovation always eventually, you know, runs its course because, you know, the next group
has the ability to build on our tools and our group. We only had the ability to build on the
tools that were left before us. But there is a huge demand for this product.
And as a community, if we created something like this, in a sense, it would be kind of like a course, but it's the course of the rules of the road.
And I definitely think you can get a lot of engagement.
And the biggest contributors have a chance to create a new platform that hasn't been
created yet i think it's well said man and we always talk about the fact that um also just
thank you for this awesome and nuance take you you make the community proud and i'm just proud
to call you a fellow viner and appreciate you man um but yeah like you know we talk a little bit about
how um oh good lord now i forgot hold on come back to me good lord christiano good lord. Now I forgot. Hold on. Come back to me. Good lord, Cristiano.
Good lord.
I got sidetracked giving him flowers.
I'm sorry.
You were literally about to spit some fire.
Yeah, I was.
I was so excited to hear it.
It's hot fire.
Oh, man.
Just give me a second. I'll drink some water.
Give me literally 30 seconds. I'll come back to you. I give me a second. I'll drink some water. Give me like literally 30 seconds.
It'll come back to me.
Let me drink some water.
I just took a piss.
I just wanted to announce it.
Okay.
Great.
Damn it.
You guys missed it.
It was epic.
I just had to think about Emily pissing.
I'm fine.
There you go.
Okay, go ahead.
If you had to like guess, like would you say it was like a 30 second or like a minute?
Yeah.
It was pretty long because I drink a lot of water.
So it's kind of like, yeah.
No, so what I was going to say was that we talk a lot about the fact that it's our job to, you know,
to hack through the machetes with machetes through the jungle and then turn around and lay cobblestones
so that the artists who come after us can just run through these jungles and just run through these streets.
And the truth is, like, that's why I think we don't expect flowers
and we don't really, we get it when we're like, oh, cool.
But the truth is, like, it's a thankless job just being here and doing that
because you're going to be the people that made it, you know,
like so easy for everyone that came after you.
But before you, there were no tools.
And you build those tools and you figure out those tools.
And people really aren't going to say thank you, nor do they owe you a thank you because this is how technology and progress
works right you just innovate on top of who innovated everyone standing on shoulders of
giants right we didn't build the cell towers to make this whole thing work we're just using spaces
and we're making it work you know and so it's like we're standing on the shoulders of giants
of so many people that came before us we didn't mine the quartz crystals to make the phones work
you know what i mean we didn't figure out electro communications or anything like that so that's evolution yeah
like there's so many brilliant people that yeah you evolve on who so we want to leave a better
place leave it better than we found it and leave it easier than we found it and like you know yeah
we can build those tools and stuff and it's about how people decide to build if they want to build
a platform where you know they're going to get paid and figure out how much they're going to get paid
or build a protocol in which they're not,
but it's going to be something that perhaps can persist beyond their lifetime.
That's literally the why of we exist.
We exist to evolve. That's literally why we're here.
So just keep on evolving whatever way, form, shape that is
and just keep pushing forward because that's that's the why the general why
thesis of why humans exist is to evolve that's why we're here we're having a lot of philosophical
existential conversations over the past few weeks i like weeks i i really um like it what did we
talk about the other oh the pyramids that was all rabbit that was a whole thing don't get me
started on that again oh boy here we go no we're not going down that wormhole no more pyramids
we've established that we agreed to disagree now for the record uh the talk about the the pyramids
after the mushrooms was out of hand do you guys remember that part of the pyramid conversation?
I like the mushroom. I was very in tune with the mushroom pyramid conversation.
I just posted my April's Fool's joke. Guys, and I think some people are not
taking it as a joke, which I guess is the whole point of today, but it was an
artist should just think about
making art and let others take care of the business part.
I even put a clown emoji.
Would you guys think that that's an obvious joke?
Because obviously Treasure understood that I was joking.
But then someone else went in and commented, automate everything else.
It's coming.
So I think maybe that's not a good
joke. What do you think? No, it's a good joke because it starts a conversation. And I knew
you were joking because every, anytime an artist leaves the business to somebody else,
they end up making a business out of their art and the share ends up getting, you know,
share ends up getting altered in a way that's not conducive to the emotion that created the art.
And the example that I'll give is the person who discovered how to scale electricity
is the same person who had to resort to digging ditches to make a living. And that man is Nicholas
Tesla. The name of the most valuable asset of the person who owns the very platform that we're on. In other words, that creator got the short end of the stick, and there's very few people that you could put at that level of creation.
Wait, wait, wait. Didn't Tesla die broke?
I thought somebody monetized on him. Yeah, he did die broke. He did die broke. He had a royalties agreement with Westinghouse and they were making so much money. He was making
so much money. They looked at the numbers and said, you know what? If we honor this deal,
we won't be able to scale this as fast. And because he didn't have the ability to negotiate
on himself properly,
where the proper move would have simply gotten a lesser of a cut,
but enough of a cut that you at least get future credits based on past performance.
But they came to the conclusion to just to give him nothing because now you don't have to worry about negotiating.
You just get to expedite the process and just move forward.
And one person gets left out in the dark. But the idea is to avoid those situations as much as possible, because ultimately there will always be usually pain, but always
definitely emotions to creativity, because all creativity ultimately comes from an emotion.
to creativity because all creativity ultimately comes from an emotion. You know, whether that
emotion is a euphoria, joy, love, or agony or pain and all these things. So the idea though,
is that's where we have to empower creators because they're basically like empaths. They're
basically giving their soul to the world and then letting the world do as they
see fit. And if you don't have some say over what the world will do, the world has a pattern that
we've studied for thousands of years. They will take more than you give and they will leave
yourself depleted of energy. So that's why artists need to be protected more and creators
need to be protected more than any class of citizen on the planet because they literally
create better paradigms that could change these emotions where we can have more of the good stuff
and less of the bad stuff. Preach. Yes. I like that. Save the artist, right, Emily?
Yes, I like that. Save the artist, right, Emily?
Yes. Oh, my God. We were. OK, yeah. Yeah.
This it doesn't this. OK, Violetta, just on a sidebar, doesn't this whole conversation reinforce what we were talking about just a little while ago?
Yeah, exactly. So this is the universe just saying, hey, guys, what's up?
It's really funny because like someone I was talking to someone on the phone yesterday and they were talking about they're creating some kind of, you know, business that pays the seamstresses first.
And I found it so cool because my grandma was a seamstress in World War Two, like so in the uniforms and stuff and continue to be a seamstress.
it's just like paying the people that are typically known for being put into sweatshop conditions
and giving them like the pay first and knowing it'll like it'll you know eventually even out
and stuff like that but it's like you know pay the people that have been the most disenfranchised
that have had their industry push them into your working condition should be you work for nothing
and like that's how I feel about the musicians I was making the allegory I was like I love that
model because that's how I feel about the musicians. I was making the allegory. I was like, I love that model because that's how I feel about the musicians.
Like before I released anything here, I was just a music NFT whale.
I had money coming in from YouTube and just spent it all.
I look back on how much money I made on YouTube that year.
And I was like, damn, man, that was, I probably spent 30, $40,000 on music NFTs.
Just like making friends here and just put all of it into here or going to the shows and supporting people.
So like that was a lot that I put in in but I saw it as like rectifying the wrong
because musicians are supposed to what live on our music being free and our performances being free
and everything being free it doesn't make any sense you know it's like sweatshop level conditions
then we're supposed to be happy and not snippy and it's like you know and be like bright and sunny
and bright and happy for them too and it's just don't know, it just feels like if we could get more people to understand that
and that it's like, you know, the musicians,
because their stuff is zero dollars everywhere else,
that's why you support them disproportionately here
and you should support them disproportionately here
because we're the seamstresses of this whole thing,
of the arts and music scene.
Well, what's interesting about like management
and managers and stuff like that,
they were actually brought in to protect the artists in the beginning.
That's what their job kind of was, was a manager was there to protect the artists from getting messed over.
But somehow within the narrative, it got skewed and the managers became the ones that actually fed off of the artists.
It became a vampiric sort of thing that was not protective at all.
And it's just crazy how that really happened.
Most people get their first agent and they don't have a manager.
You know what I mean?
And your manager's job is to keep you safe from your agent.
And they don't even have a manager.
Well, I mean, your agent, I would disagree with that a little bit.
We have an agent.
We don't have a manager because our agent books our shows.
Like your agent is only there to book your shows, right?
And your agent-
But you're the manager.
Yeah, the manager is,
like the manager can do these side deals.
Agents really can't do these side deals.
They kind of have their 20%.
They go and they book the show, they're done.
Yeah, they have a panel.
So they can't scrape,
but the managers can do all these things.
Like for example, I won't.
This is a recorded space.
Yeah.
OK, so I won't say any particular names and I won't say anything particular that actually
happened.
But this could be a, you know, let's pretend this happened, but it might have already happened.
You get signed to a label and you get a deal.
And then you there's a sidebar where, you know, you you want to go with a certain producer, but they don't want to go with a certain producer because the management gets cut in on the production deal if another producer has gone in there.
So they get a percentage of the percentage that the producer gets, which is so it's double dipping or triple dipping into certain aspects of your career.
And that's very easy to do across board when you get
to a certain level with stuff. So I'm just saying that managers have became vampiric
on their clients at a certain time. And I don't know when that really happened. But this is also,
if we want to go into the philosophical version of this, this is kind of like, you know, if you look and you study humanity, I mean, humanity becomes corrupt very easily because of greed.
So like, you know, this is also just like, you know, kind of like funneling into that sort of like greed overtakes like goodness and empathy at most times that more than not, you know, and, and artists
fight against that because of the way we're just set up and how our brains work. But like,
but the general, you know, populace and the people that like work with them do not fight against
that. So it's a constant war between the, you know, two, two people, I guess, or two types of people. Spot on. And so the reason why that happens so often
is right now the system incentivizes the first manager to sign the artist more than the best
manager to protect the artist. So one of the things that's important is educating artists
who their best manager would be. Now, if you're getting to the point where
people are looking to sign you or lock you up or basically be a part of your future through
contract, that means at some level you have a community. And where we need to educate artists
is if you have a community, you need to let the community be almost like oversight on your
management. But usually what management does is they take the oversight away from the community to be almost like oversight on your management. But usually what management does
is they take the oversight away from the community and therefore they become vulnerable
to the manager and the contract terms. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got to push back on that
because I don't think that the community should have oversight on you. Not on you, on your manager.
On your manager either. I don't think anybody should have any oversight.. I think not on you, on your manager, on your manager either. I don't
think anybody should have any oversight. Okay. This is what, this is the hierarchy. The artist
is on top. The manager works for the artists and then the community is what they create.
So like you have to like, the funny thing about artists and managers is artists are like, Oh,
I got this manager and he used to manage so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so. And I'm like, and I always tell artists, I'm like,
okay, you do understand that you're paying this guy. Like you're not working for them. They're
working for you. And like people always like, like get that all messed up. And why is your,
and your community shouldn't be, be policing your manager. Like why would your community shouldn't be policing your manager. Like, why would your community?
Your community is there to consume the art you make and also to support you as an artist.
They're not there to get involved in your decision-making process.
You can allow it if you'd like to and make it a community thing as a parlay of endearment towards your community.
But they should not be involved in the decision-making process of how your
career goes. That should be spearheaded by you yourself as the artist.
And I think that artists get really misconstrued when it comes to hiring a
manager or an account. This, this, they're like, Oh, they see the, Oh my God,
this person managed like Metallica. Like they,
they're going to make me huge and like dah, dah, they see that, oh my God, this person managed Metallica. They're going to make me huge and da-da-da-da-da.
And it's just like, that's just no.
There's so much no in that.
So I agree with all that, Emily.
And the one point that I didn't get to make, that I was going to make, is not that the community should manage your career.
When I said oversight, it's usually the relationship.
Typically, this is a typical pattern.
The community fell in love with your art where the manager sometimes fell in love for the right to manage your art.
So the idea is the community is not managing your decision making.
The community has a more pure relationship with the creation because they fell in love with the actual what's being created.
So I'm just saying having more access to the people that actually care about what you're creating empowers the artist to better negotiate with the manager.
And maybe I could have phrased it different, but that's where I was going for.
See, I want to chime in.
I think I completely agree with you, Emily, like on the manager thing you just said, where I've struggled managers.
Oh, my God.
Like, I don't think I could have a manager like in the traditional sense of the word anymore. I've had five.
I'm sure you've had your fair share of managers that just, yeah, they're just suckers of energy and everything else.
Anyway, that's my thought.
But I do have a slightly different opinion on almost having your community like act a little bit as manager.
That's worked out for me like I
have searched for the community's opinion advice and also just help in general for a lot of things
but also strategically I think there can be a really good dynamic there if the artist wants
right and that's it's always up to the artist if the artist wants,
if that's something that works for them,
if, you know, they have people in the community that they trust, right?
That's another thing.
Like, I have this sort of, you know, kind of ecosystem, right,
in our community where I can tell the people that really want to be
in that position where they want to advise like the nine frame council where we meet up every few
weeks and like I do truly ask for their advice like okay guys like I want to do this what do
you think like what what do you guys think we should do this or that especially at the beginning
like we pretty much created the structure for another life drop together with the 9 frames.
When there was a problem I call emergency meetings.
So that can really work if balanced well and if respected by all the parties.
I've had so much more better results with that than talking with a traditional manager to be honest.
But it doesn't necessarily
have to work for everybody you know um i do think that there is though something to um empowering
your community to have a little bit of decisional power you know as long as it's in your best
interest and you agree right you're always the top you agree, right? You're always the top, you're always the boss, you're always the CEO, but there is something to that,
right?
Especially when they own, like in the NFT community, right?
They own something from you that they bought directly
from you and they have invested.
I found that really working for me, you know,
but that's just me.
It doesn't necessarily have to work for everybody.
I think that's spot on. And I think an advisement council is definitely a good, I mean, look,
they do this in advertising all the time. They have, you know, they bring in a group of people
that are, you know, different types of people and they put them in a room and they say,
what do you think of this? You know, and that becomes the, you know, that the advisement for
the advertisement. So I believe that that is a structurally sound
way to do stuff in business and also in arts. Like, I think that's really good. But at the end
of the day, you are the one creating the art. And it's kind of like, I'm never going to be like,
hey, guys, like, should I write a song about this? What am I writing my next song about?
I'm never really going to do that. For me, yeah, exactly. For Darth Vader. But for me,
it's always a personal, I'm so personal. That's so personal with me. There's certain decisions
that I have to make as the artist. When it comes to the art of super science yeah yeah it's more like
i guess because a traditional manager shouldn't have an input on that either you know what i'm
saying like no no business person should tell you oh write a song like about this or use that snare
sound instead of that other one like but they do and they do be they they're like oh you got to
make it more radio rock you got to make it more you know it's got to appeal to serious satellite radio and octane like it needs to be this tempo it needs to be like that really
does happen nowadays it's for sure i mean yes like i've had that problem many times to the point
that when i first started with nfts i remember asking nifty sacks like okay so like what what
is the nft song you know because there's like the radio song
spotify song the sync song the movie song like we are given these directions in the music industry
so that you can write songs targeted for different medias and whatever so i asked so what's the nft
song and he was like that doesn't that doesn't work here i hope it's like 10 and a half minutes
and it's like it becomes like a normal thing to be like, I'm going to give people more value because we want to be like dream theater.
Yeah, exactly.
Like it's just like I'm doing it as long as I feel like doing it.
And actually your pushback allowed me to see that actually the Achilles heel and my logic chain.
heal in my logic chain. So one of the things about community, they are valuable and maybe,
you know, not delegating to just one power, but to multiple powers is what I was going at,
is community does sometimes push the artist to create more and more art because they are
consumers and they are addicted to the product. And just because they want to buy your soul
doesn't mean they understand your soul.
And I think, and that's where I think Emily was going at is ultimately you cannot give up your
autonomy because ultimately you are basically presenting your soul to the world and you deserve
to have final say over how that direction goes. Cause you're the one that has to live with the consequences
of your behavior and your choices but even beyond that but even beyond that it's like
these fans became fans of yours because of what you produced in the beginning
coming from your soul so if you like change that then can you start doing things according to other
people and stuff you're actually like depleting what they actually came in,
in the first place, loving.
So it's kind of like when you have an artist
that kind of goes from like,
oh, I'm going to do this type of an album,
and then the next album is totally different.
But sometimes it works out
because it still has the same sort of thing going on.
But sometimes you know it's just kind of like a play into the algorithm. And you're like, why are you doing this? Like, just do what
you do best and keep at it. I'll give you an example. There's a, there's a band on, it used
to be on Sumerian. It's called Periphery. Periphery is a math core metal band. It's like a super
technical metal band. And they have a really crazy fan base,
like crazy, crazy, astute fan base. And they were on Sumerian and Sumerian was really pushing them
to do radio, more radio metal songs because they wanted to, they wanted to make a more mainstream
and periphery was pushing back and saying, guys, that's not what we do. We don't do that. We have a really solid
fan base. We want to speak to our fan base and grow that fan base into what it needs to be and
not like go totally left of center and, you know, alienate that fan base that built us and made us
what we are today. So after that album that they put out that was a little bit more radio,
they like left the label and they just became independent because they wanted to steer their own ship and they wanted to steer it in the direction that they've always been going.
And they're highly, highly successful.
They don't need a label now.
They have that built-in core fan base.
They've made their cult following and they fucking run with it.
And they're amazing, amazing performers.
So I think there's something to be said about that.
100%.
I mean, it's the stupidest thing they do.
It's try to change you
because that's not why you got there in the first place.
You know what I mean?
Like you were doing you
and then they tried to change you.
Why wouldn't they just sign someone else?
I know that blows my mind.
Like that doesn't feel like it. It's so crazy. It's it's like what are they doing just go to another band like why do you
have to go to us oh because you want our fans that's kind of the problem when like you're the
product right or you're or they just consider you like a factory farm this artist for hits because
like i always took that advice where it's like this is all the advice if you wanted to go on
radio like i always only apply that advice to my singles. And when I'm like, I know when I'm making a single,
because like I set out to be like, I'm going to make a single
and I'm going to apply all those rules and, you know,
build it in a templatized way because I know what does well on the radio,
what does well on Spotify, and according to all those rules.
But the rest of my music can just be whatever the hell I want
because it's really not made for that, for a single play, you know?
And one of them might end up being a sleeper hit.
You never know. But like, so I always just consider it like that like i'm a producer of
the products of the songs and i can generate as many pop songs as i want but i don't have to be
stuck with that and if i was on the label they would be like you're a goose that lays golden
eggs lay the golden eggs why would you waste your time over here with stuff that's not going to make
us money you know which i get you know it's like that's your job for them if you're going to be
laying golden eggs for them or are you going to lay them for yourselves and do it you know which i get you know it's like that's your job for them if you're going to be laying golden eggs for them or you're going to lay them for yourselves and do it
you know whenever you want to and not have to just be like farmed out
yep that's right that's right guys recently i'll tell you this bit of gossip okay um so you guys
know with kaya music the consulting firm we've recently had to deal with um with a record
label with favorite people i love them um and uh because they were interested for one of their
artists um pretty you know an artist who has a pretty big following and an established fan base
so we thought there would be really fertile
territory there to involve his fans in different ways that they hadn't been involved in before
and strengthen that connection obviously so we've been talking not to the artist because
no you talk to the record label right which by the way is owned by the artist okay and like
so this artist is big enough created their record label great amazing you know and then hired a
whole bunch of boomers to run it pretty much um the thing is that they wouldn't let us speak to
the artist like we have to speak to the people he hired which are gatekeeping the information so for the longest time they like
dragged out the conversation for months like because we started having it you know before
we even announced kaya as a thing um and until and basically we realized the artist didn't even know
that this conversation was happening the moment we got to speak with the
artist the whole dynamic changed and it took a positive spin and all of a sudden everyone's
understanding you know and all of a sudden things are running fast very speedy and it's just like
I'm having to bite my tongue oh lord so much because it's just like unbelievable i don't know why they do this
it's really dumb business that they run because they slow things down drag things along so slowly
and the moment because the artist is gonna understand especially when it's coming from
another artist you know like i don't know it's just i'm artist, you know, like, I don't know. It's just, I'm not going to name.
They think that they know better. It's weird.
These guys come in and they, I can't, I mean, I'll, I'll tell you a little story.
So when I went into Virgin records, I think I've told this story before.
I went into the A&R room and I'm sitting there with like, you know,
we got the president of the label, we have my A&R guy, you know, I have all these,
like I'm staring at all these platinum records on the walls.
And, like, my manager is there.
And it's a whole thing.
And I'm sitting there and I'm like, hey, I want Kevin Churko to do my record.
And they're like, who?
And, like, back then, like, in 2014, 2015, Kevin was big.
But he wasn't as big as he became in the following three to four years. And I was like,
yeah, I've been working with his son, Kane. I really like working with them. I wrote some of
these songs with them, so they're part of the team anyway, so it would just be an easy producer to go
with. And they're like, well, Emily, we really want you to go with somebody that's proven themselves
and making platinum records. We'll get the records on the wall. Like that's Howard Benson. That's Don
Gilmore. Don Gilmore did like Meteora for Lincoln park. They're like, we want you guys to, we want
you guys to be like that big. And I was like, yeah, but I think Kevin can get us there. I really
do think he can get us there. He is the guy that can, that I feel comfortable with in the studio.
And I want to be around people I feel comfortable with.
And I was really trying to get them to understand this
and they pushed back and pushed back.
And I went to get a coffee in the other room
and my manager comes up to me and he's like,
hey, these guys have been in the business a long time.
They really know this, they signed you.
You need to listen to them.
They're really the people to listen to, da, da, da, da, da, da.
So I end up quotequote listening to these people that were like bigger and had this and had that
and had all these accolades and stuff like that and it really fucked me like i'm not going to tell
the whole story but it really did fuck me in the end but like but if i had just gone with my gut
reaction and like what i know as an artist i don't. I didn't have all the accolades of a fucking Don Gilmore,
but I knew in my heart and my soul,
what I was doing got me to the place that I got to.
And it also would get me a lot farther
if I stayed with the people that I know work with me.
And like, and I, instead I listened to the manager
and this person, because they thought
that they knew better for me about my career than I did.
And that, and the thing that, and this is the reason why I circled back with this is that it goes back to
what I was saying before. These people work for you. You don't work for them. And I was like kind
of naive and I was a little bit shy and I was like younger and I just didn't know what the fuck.
Like I just wanted to make everybody happy. I was people pleasing a bit back then. And so I just did what they said and it really did fuck me up.
Like it really fucked up my career.
So like, so just, you have to like,
remember who you are as an artist and remember that everything you've done
has gotten you to the place you are.
And like, even if you're in a label situation,
you've got to have like the balls to kind of like go in front of these people and be like, I'm still the deciding factor.
And I think a lot of these artists won't do that, especially nowadays, because they get
the deal, they get the this, they get the this.
And they think, oh, if I do that, then, you know, they're going to toss me out.
They're going to say I'm a liability.
They're not going to work as hard for me.
But in the end, if you don't do that, you're going to fail anyway, because like in the end, they might, they might hit a home run every
once and again by luck or chance. But at the end of the day, the artists that really control their
own careers and have more say in their careers are the biggest artists that you know, Taylor Swift,
Lady Gaga, all these, all these these artists like they fucking clawed their way
through the label environment like if you listen to a lady gaga like interview about the fame about
how nobody believed in that album nobody wanted that album out like she had to claw her way she
did club tours she did little like i mean she just, she was clawing her way. She said in one interview, she's like, oh, because somebody was like, yeah, that the Fame album was such a big album. And it was like made on love. And she's like, no, that was made on blood. And that was made on like heartbreak. And that was made on clawing my way through the system. And she told this whole story about it. Because the thing is, nobody's going to believe in you as much as you're going to believe in you and nobody's going to have your
north star as much as you're going to have your north star so just make sure that you keep that
and don't fall prey to all the fucking hype because the hype is just hype it doesn't matter
boom boom yes exactly that that really all to that own self be true shakespeare Boom! Boom. Yes! Exactly. That really happened.
To the known self be true. Shakespeare.
Mic drop. That was so good. Yeah, for sure.
And I only had to torpedo my own career to be able to say that in this space right now.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, after this, that's why I've had a problem with, you know, people telling me
in Web3, oh, you're shooting yourself in the foot, you know, not being on Spotify this
or the other.
And I'm like, you guys think I don't know this shit?
Because exactly like you, all this experience, you know, like we have it.
We've done it.
Cristiano as well.
He's worked, He's created influencers.
Like he was on both sides kind of thing.
So, you know, so he knows we know like how I've been an unpaid manager.
Yes. Yeah. You've been both right.
You've been in both shoes.
And so you've seen even more than than us both sides of the coin.
So, you know, I'm probably one of the most prolific unpaid managers in the world.
Like I've worked with so many people for free and just giving them free game and advice,
but it's like, I can't take my, not camp.
And in the past, I've had a hard time taking my own advice.
And that's what I've been working on the last three or four months is being a good manager
for myself and, you know, taking my own advice.
And it's very hard because it's like, I can talk myself out of it, you know?
And there's, you know what I mean?
Like it's easy to argue with yourself and dissuade yourself um for why you shouldn't take your own advice that's why christiana you
have to have people like v and i around you that will like come in and be like stop being a dick
and smack you around and be like okay take your own advice stop being an idiot that's your consigliere
i was uh yeah the way the sicilian mafia works and there's a you know the don and there's the
consigliere who works with the don and like kind of like the hand of the king and then there's the the capos
who are like the captains and the soldiers who work under the capos right and so it's like
you got to pronounce that word right though capos capo regine yeah you wish
for the consiglieri no no no consigliere consigliere that's right
it's gonna be so much better Consigliere. Consigliere. Consigliere. That's right. Consigliere.
My Italian is going to be so much better.
Consigliere.
Consigliere.
I'm actually a firm believer that no platform has cost music artists more money ever in the history of humanity than Spotify.
I agree.
Because if they can get your product cheap, why would they buy your product expensive?
I think Spotify at best has two benefits to artists.
One, you've already made it and you're just taking every inch from every direction and it's just a funnel of a very successful artist.
Or B, it's a little bit like Tik TOK.
If you want to get some content that has some easy to discover,
you can maybe get a hardcore,
but if you don't pivot off Spotify,
you will basically be a slave to the platform for the rest of your life.
Spotify doesn't make artists.
It allows already made artists to basically have another revenue funnel well it's not even
that it's not even about that because the already made artists that are on spotify aren't even using
it as a funnel because their publishing is sold to a pub company so they're not even understanding
they don't even get any of that for the most part unless they own their own pub. It's just a marketing funnel, right? So it becomes a marketing funnel for the artists,
and then it becomes a vampiric sort of source
for the pub companies.
And the pub companies also are double dipping
because the pub companies have side deals with Spotify
directly that they're getting percentages off the top.
So they're getting their percentage
from the artists that they're repping,
plus the percentage of the generalized Spotify income because they're part of the company
now.
Like it's all vampiric as fuck guys.
Like you have no,
it's actually the simplest math in the world.
You take all the money actually compensated by artists divided by the amount of
artists,
Spotify lowest number ever.
Yeah.
And you know what they do with all that money that artists spend like you said
i like what you said that spotify is the company where artists lost the most money they paid the
most money too which is so accurate so think about like sometimes i'm like you know when you've made
a mistake for so many years and then you think back how could i not see that like i spent throwing
good money dollars creating records to just like literally give it to
Spotify and bring all my people over there I give them money and you know what they did with that
money they get 250 million dollars to Joe Rogan oh my god the way I've been looking at Spotify
recently right is is it's almost like and you guys can fight with me on this, it's fine, but this is just my personal, like, view on it, is that I'm seeing Spotify almost as, like, Google, like a search engine, right?
And so I will put my singles, my hits or whatever, as you would, up there, but they're not getting my albums.
My album stuff would be on a platform, something like, you know, Ohio or something where I could say, hey, you have to pay to unlock this album.
Everyone gets the singles, but you got to pay. Or my NFTs, you know, unlock a token I could say hey you have to pay to unlock this album everyone gets the singles but you got to pay or my NFTs you know
unlock a token gate to that album right but so the idea is like those singles
would be out there for free and essentially bringing people to if I'm
you know doing a YouTube video that's meant to go viral I want people to look
it up on Spotify and then see my tour dates see my merchandise you know what
I mean see you know I can sell my NFTs through the Shopify integration and
everything so you know have all my stuff there and use it almost as a website.
And it's like, you know, why wouldn't you want your website to be indexed on the biggest search engine?
And this is the biggest music search engine.
So I see it as a way to just say, hey, here's a little taste of what you can get from me on this music search engine and not expect to make any money off of it.
And know that it's a marketing funnel for the things that when people click there, everything they click on that Spotify is
going to get me paid. You know what I mean?
But you know what's even worse though guys is that people actually pay Spotify
for ads like to sell their music on Spotify that doesn't even sell so it's
like the whole thing is just such a ponzi it's
not even funny it's about managing your expectations if i go into it saying i'm going to make zero
dollars off of spotify and it's just a website service where they're going to index my music
based on how many people i drive there from you know uh linking it to my youtube videos and to
anything else i do it's just you know for people that want to see that i have a spotify they can
go there and see a couple songs that are singles and see mostly what I want them to see which is
the integrations to my shows you know I'm a performing artist and I'm constantly performing
to my merchandise to my NFTs to different things in my ecosystem and my links and things like that
right so it's I just see it like that and I don't expect to make money off of my website
you know what I mean or off of my link tree you know but it's like I still need them up there you know and that's the way i'm thinking about it and my music goes where
i want my music to go it can be nft token gated it can be on higher music token gated it can be
you know what i mean like whatever it is but that's what people are paying for that's what
you pay the 20 to 50 dollars you know for the nft is like the access to the album and that's the way
i'm doing it now people just don't realize i'm selling them the singles but then i have a bunch
of songs that go with those singles, you know
So you're gonna get like an EP's worth of music because that's how much they paid
Well, then that's why it's so important for artists to understand business because who is the Spotify customer?
the Spotify customer are people addicted to cheap and
Also to you have to understand the difference from making money from
Spotify and making money to them paying you. So if you see the artists that have actually made the
most money on Spotify, like a Joe Rogan or Alex Cooper, they paid them to get them on the platform.
That is a much different relationship than using the platform to get paid. And a lot
of people, they see the headline and go, Oh, Spotify's paying artists. No Spotify is paying
to recruit artists. Spotify is not building artists. You have to be very careful on how
you build that. Yeah. That's their marketing is they're using the bigger artists to bring in more
people so that they can get paid more. I mean, it's just, it's all Ponzi, you guys.
It's a fucking Ponzi.
Like, it's the biggest Ponzi on the planet right now.
Like, it's biggest and most successful Ponzi scheme
on the planet right now.
And if you think that Spotify is your friend, it's not.
It's a marketing tool at this point.
And I tend to differ with you about the audience.
I don't think it's the cheap audience.
I think it's the normal
music listener right now because music has been devalued to the point of .003 cents per
stream. Music has been pegged to its way of consumption from the beginning of time, and
now its way of consumption is streaming, and streaming doesn't take any effort and any
money, and so now it's devalued to that point. And it's, and it has nothing to do with customers being cheap. It's the psychology of what music has
been devalued to. So that's not, that's not a, you know, you can call it cheap because it is cheap,
but, but in, in the essence of humanity, it's just the, the psychological drift towards zero.
Like, I mean, everything is tracking towards zero because of the way things are consumed.
We don't even know if the people are cheap because it's like Spotify hasn't even given
them an option.
If Spotify ever enabled an option where people could just pay us and just tip us and stuff
like that, Spotify might have been the biggest way to make money, but they never even tried.
In the beginning, but I don't even blame Spotify.
If you guys, you got to watch, you gotta, like, watch the download documentary.
It's really great.
But, like, you know, they tried in the beginning
to go to the labels and be like,
hey, we wanna pay artists, we wanna do this, da-da-da-da.
They tried.
But, like, the, you know, the labels,
they shut them out, they shut them out,
because the music business doesn't wanna change
because they have their way of ponziing all the artists,
and they wanna keep their way of ponziing all the artists and they want to keep their way of ponziing all the artists so they get the most money.
And so they didn't want to shift.
It was a dinosaur and it didn't want to move and it didn't want to change.
And then you had the music business totally collapse on itself because, you know, this MP3 and Napster took over and all this.
And they couldn't sell records anymore.
They couldn't sell CDs.
They couldn't sell music anymore.
And what happens to a business where you can't sell the product that you're creating?
Guess what?
It goes into bankruptcy and it fails and it goes under.
But not in the music business because they fed it another Ponzi and now look where we
fed it another Ponzi and now look where we are today. So, you know, that's it.
are today.
So, you know, that's it.
You know, guys, I really do love a good shitting on Spotify conversation on a Tuesday.
My favorite way to spend my Tuesday afternoon. So thank you everyone for entertaining this.
Truly. I feel like we haven't said it enough um however i do agree it is a
marketing tool if you know how to use it you know there's probably ways to use it so um yeah great
i do have to close the space but i did want to say once again you know um even though maybe and
this is for the community for the listeners even though maybe there aren't as many music NFT spaces going on, you know, every single day.
I remember a couple of years ago we had like back to back, you know, two, three hour spaces, back to back different artists like music NFT radio going on all day.
Myself and Cristiano hosting for 17 hours in a row, like crazy stuff.
We used to do that. right? But you know what? We have grown,
I feel like in the last three years. And we are doing things that I, behind the scenes, and
I've spoken about some of these things with my community that I think are going to push
all these ideas and all the effort that we've all put in for the past three years
outside of this silly niche that can't even make a good April Fool's joke, to be honest.
And I'm not talking about you guys. I'm talking about...
Yeah, we were cooking.
Yeah, we've been cooking.
Yeah, we cooked.
Yeah, we have been cooking and we're still cooking and we will be.
You know what I mean?
And I think all of us are working on things that will really push this space
and this movement and this community beyond
the limits that I think we would have imagined three years ago. So I really do appreciate everyone
in our communities sticking around with us for the past three years. And even to this day,
you know, like listening to us for two hours, rambling and shitting on the music industry and Spotify still on.
So thank you so much.
I must say this.
One other thing.
I cannot host a space on Friday because my parents are coming from Italy.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, they're coming.
Exciting.
Are they coming to my show?
They're coming to your show.
I'm so excited.
Their first metal show for sure.
This is incredible.
This is everything.
This is everything.
You need to get a video of their face as Emily's.
Dude, my dad is.
I want to see what.
I hope they don't mind cursing because I curse a lot.
And you know what?
I don't know if you know Emily, but my dad draws comics for a living. Like's his job oh oh my god i can't wait i can't wait so yeah for disney
um definitely different from what you do but he's drawn like other things as well more aggressive
stuff metal mickey mouse well he's done some in france they have some pretty controversial comics
uh and he's done a bunch of stuff like that.
But anyway, we'll get into that another time.
However, my parents are coming to town tomorrow because I am turning 3-0 on Saturday.
And my mom was like, oh, I want to be there, you know, when you become 30 plus.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, so they're both flying in from Italy.
And so on Friday, I definitely, you know, want to spend time with them and spend as much time with them as I can.
Because I'm not going to see them until, like, the fall after that.
Who loves harder than Italian parents, for real?
Like, nobody.
They'll fly across the country to come.
They fly across the world.
The world to come see you.
And they've been doing that.
And I lived in four different countries in the past seven years,
and they've come to see me in every single country that I've lived in.
So, yeah, I'm excited.
So, yeah, I won't be able to host Space Resume on Friday.
Unfortunately, I just want to make sure i
you know make the most out of my my good old parents being around um but yeah i'll keep you
guys posted for anything and uh what else christian you want to show anything um yeah i just want to
say thank you ip nerd for giving me a new uhline. Just be the roadmap. You know what I mean? Just be the lesson.
Like, be the master class.
And I think that's beautiful.
And it's like, study Violetta.
Like, people do say just study Violetta.
Like, I've seen it tweeted before, and it's true.
Stop it.
Yeah, I swear to God.
I'm not trying to make your head, you know, bigger than it already is.
I'm just saying, like, study Violetta.
Study Violetta.
Study all these people.
Study Emily Lazar.
Be the moon shit. Be the moon shit um anything to show no I mean I got some uh new music coming out that I've been working on
and um I have actually a really cool idea I'm not gonna like go too into it but you guys are
gonna really like the way I'm doing this I'm basically because I like to give out free games
so it's like I don't care if someone front runs me, whatever. But yeah, basically I'm going to be like putting out a rarity with the music NFT where it's like different covers of me all in like the same pose.
Right. I have a song called Royalty. So I can meet me with like a sword up with like a crown on my head and then different traits and stuff.
So in some, I have blonde hair and some of the background is like a castle and some there's like a dragon.
You know what I mean? And those become the traits.
So like alternate, basically album covers covers that have all different variants,
you know, images and variant things in that.
So it allows for secondary trading because I know that people on Ape Chain have asked
around and they've been like, if you release a music NFT, we would love to see it with
traits because they're all about secondary over there.
So I was like, all right, cool.
Like, we can figure that out.
So I've been cooking on it and I think it's a really cool new way to be like, hey, instead
of doing a full on PFP project, you could do this for singles and just say, hey, here's a single art, but here's different variant art covers and stuff.
So if anyone needs help on how to do that, I think I figured out a good way with like using AI
and Photoshop and stuff. So yeah, hit me up. It's going to be cool. It's going to be cool. If this
works, it's going to be like, oh my God, why don't we, because not only why don't we think of this,
like you did this with Another Life, you know, like Nessie did it with the open minds you know what i mean sam did it with pixelated right like the pfp collection
but that's typically for a full album right emma did it with artifacts right tony did it with uh
you know judgment day like it doesn't always have to be a pfp especially with artifacts and judgment
day right but like you could you know the fact that it has traits makes it tradable and i think
that's really cool and it's something that you could do on a single basis with just you know the image and messing with some of the elements in it using AI because now you can like
AI this last couple weeks has gotten to the point where you can edit images and just like change
certain elements to be like change this dude's hair to be blonde or whatever and so uh yeah so
that's what I'm working on so stay tuned for that and then uh yeah Vine's going to the moon we're
chilling uh Vine's coming back very soon so I'm getting ready and I'm building a whole YouTube
network so if anyone here has a YouTube channel and wants to be signed what i
can do is i can take your music and we can content idea like we were talking about today
and make it so that if anyone steals your music uploads your videos anything you get the money
and it comes right back to you so if you're interested in that um i would rather have my
friends signed to the network before i start signing strangers um yeah we could make our
own vivo make our own like music video network or
whatever so start thinking about youtube because they're gonna throw a lot of money at people very
very soon when tiktok shuts down in the next couple weeks tiktok uh you're gonna see money from
facebook and youtube and snapchat starting to be thrown at the creators so if you've been thinking
about now's the time they're gonna start throwing money at you to get you to go over there. So get ready. All right. Thank you. Emily, you're starting tour on Thursday, right?
So if you're, you're in Ohio, right? The first one. Yeah, I'm in Ohio. You can hear the drums
probably in the background. We're about to start rehearsal in a minute. But yeah, we are starting
tour on Thursday in Cleveland. It's sold out and
we have a bunch of dates that are selling out and we have a bunch of low tickets now. So if you go
to the website, coldarmy.com or if you go to septembermorning.com slash tour dates, you can
actually find our tour dates there. Pick up a ticket, come to a show. If you own one of my NFTs,
remember that you get into the meet and greets for free so all you
have to do is come at doors and go to the table show your nft come to the meet and greet get a
free poster 10 off merch and just like hang out with us take a picture pictures whatever and uh
yeah i i hope to see you guys on the road remember like this is web 3 but it's also about you know
connectivity and that happens when you come see us play live.
You can really see what I do for a living.
And we would love to have you guys there.
Love you, Emily.
Love you guys.
And Violetta's going to be there on Sunday with her parents.
So I'm sure she can live.
Maybe you can live stream from the stage.
Maybe I'll have you up there live streaming from the stage.
You can live stream it on Twitter.
How about that? We'll figure it out. right i gotta run you guys love you guys busy people
thank you everyone for tuning in i'll see you next tuesday much love you thank you for having us and
i'll see you all next week and i did pin something up top so if you guys do want to support me and
nessie uh there is an nft for sale called head top it's a really good song so much love all right
and thank you There is an NFT for sale called Head Top. It's a really good song. So much love. All right. Thank you.
