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Moments of the Unknown - 078
Recorded: June 24, 2025 Duration: 0:40:40Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, Anjali Young, co-founder of Collabland, shared insights on the project's five-year journey and the launch of their new Smart Tag feature, enhancing token interactions within communities. The conversation highlighted the growing significance of NFTs in digital art and community engagement, with a forward-looking perspective on their role in addressing societal challenges.
Full Transcription
We are live! Good morning. Good morning.
Anjali, I invited you up here on the stage.
If you could accept.
There should be a little button on the left that says invite to accept.
See if it works. All right, well, as we wait for that,
how's your day going, Ethan?
Going real well. Beautiful day here. How's your day going, Ethan? Going real well.
Beautiful day here.
How about yours?
The scorcher outside New York City, but that's alright.
Yeah, it's pretty hot here too.
Angela, I'm wondering if you're having any issues joining, maybe reset the app.
It might be a technical thing.
Try to rejoin the app.
Ethan, when this happens to you, what do you normally do?
I just press leave and then press start listening again.
Cool.
I also invited the Collabland account just in case you could go there.
All right, here she is.
Hello. Hey, it's working now
hi hi hi
welcome
thank you for having me
it's a great pleasure that
you're part of this
project and now you're our speaker
and I got to see you
in Lisbon
I'm going to fix the typo right now.
So thank you so much.
So sorry about that.
What a treat seeing you in Lisbon.
Now we're here in New York.
Are you in New York too?
No, I'm in Denver and then about to leave for France tomorrow.
So no New York this time for me.
So, Anjali.
Yes.
Please introduce yourself, if you don't mind.
Sure.
While I fix this thing.
Thank you for fixing it.
My name is Anjali Young.
I am a co-founder of a project called Collabland.
We are a crypto community token gating membership verification bot.
We started back in May of 2020 and just celebrated five years.
So yeah, you've maybe used us if you have ever verified with us on discord or telegram
actually started first on telegram and then moved to discord um and yeah still doing it still loving
it uh crypto communities people say are gone they are not gone i will tell you they continue to
grow over and over and over again so don't let anyone tell you that's
not true. We're here five years strong and not going anywhere. Could you give us a little bit
more about your background pre-collab land? Like, are you more art focused, tech focused?
I don't really know much aside from your work with Collabland. Oh yeah, sure. So I am a, well, my very first job out of college was
at an internet startup. I went to Berkeley and one of our professors was starting a company
called InktoMe. It was actually one of the very first or maybe the first search engine
that existed. So I used to teach people how to search on the internet, like the concept of
using search terms and how to search information on the internet was people didn't know how to do
that. So that was my job. It was like customer service for people to learn how to search on the
internet. So that was my very first job. And then I am a lawyer. So I went to law school,
job. And then I am a lawyer. So I went to law school, practiced immigration law and family law
for five years until we adopted our first child, which is, she is a subject of this
video clip actually. So yeah, we adopted our daughter in 2006. This video that you did of us,
thank you so much, was from her graduation day or
graduation weekend. So that was a lot of fun. So once she came along and then I tried to do
both work, being a lawyer and being home with her, and that just wasn't possible due to some of the,
just some of her special needs that I think
all children have some needs, but her needs required me to be home with her. And so I stayed
home with her and homeschooled her until eighth grade. And then after eighth grade, we moved to
Boulder because we found a special school for her to go to. And that's where we met was at her special school. Yeah, she graduated in
2023. Okay, so once she went to high school, then I had my time freed up again. And so at that time,
James was starting, has started, James, my co-founder and my husband of 25 years,
had started Abridged, which was the corporation. And this was their third pivot was
Collabland and all the cards aligned. And he said, do you want to do this with me? And I said,
yes, crypto community or not crypto communities, but digital communities is what I'd been a part
of. For 30 years, I started doing digital communities back in 1992 when I graduated from high school. God, I'm aging myself, but who cares?
And then, yes, I was doing that from 1992.
And then, like I said, like my child's adopted.
I homeschooled.
That was all digital communities.
I was moderator, admin, started my own.
Really, I didn't know anyone around me who were adoptive parents or homeschooling.
And so my entire network was online and it meant the world to me. So being able to be at the ground
floor of digital communities and crypto with a new type of community based on what you have in
your wallet, which is where your attention is, what your
interests are, not where you live or what school you went to or anything else, but just what your
attention is going to and being able to be in groups based on people's attention, I thought was
really, really interesting. And I mean, I'm just grateful to be a part of it every day. So lawyer,
And, I mean, I'm just grateful to be a part of it every day. So lawyer, homeschooling mom. I also taught, I was an adjunct professor at our university, Cal State Fullerton, for a couple of years. I was a copywriter for a fashion magazine in New York for a while when we were living in New York. I don't know, I've done a lot of stuff.
and mostly I'd say my biggest identity is really just digital online citizen. That's really been
the throughput, the through line through everything I've ever done. Thank you for a great scope of
everything you've been through. Yeah, it was really sweet to see you that day and you know,
our friend LFT who's in the audience is also based in Boulder, and he'll be the subject for tomorrow with his brother and the day after with his entire family.
So, you know, we really started recognizing, and I think it was with your video,
how much family is just incorporated in this project, how much love, how I went off in a rant
in that, uh, my little diaristic, like memory jogging exercise I do.
So because we shot this two years ago, um, every night, right before I go to bed and
before, right before midnight, before I mint these NFTs, I like take time, like an, at least an hour
to conjure up the memory and the experience and whatever I could remember or bring back from
that moment two years ago. And, you know, sometimes it's very clear, sometimes it's
more poetic than exact. So for this one, it felt like I just went off on the meaning of family,
the meaning of connection, the love between the mother and daughter,
and just wanted to honor that sensation
of what I was experiencing, what I was witnessing.
And I thought, and I think Ethan can attest to this too,
the wind started picking up as you guys were embracing it.
I thought how metaphorically magical
just seeing nature respond to the parent and yourself. And on a special day,
I felt like the winds of the universe were carrying us that day. And I felt like I was
graduating that day. I don't know. It was a contagious feeling. And it was being like in
this oneness with you. And it's as simple as, you know, a graduation photo. You could look at it as art.
You could look at it as documentary.
For me, it was the emotions that really struck me.
Well, it was an incredibly special weekend, and I don't want to cry.
I mean, I'm so grateful that you were there to include us in your project.
project. But I never thought that day would come. My daughter has had certain challenges and
But I never thought that day would come.
it's really every single milestone has been extremely special for us. Like I said, I
homeschooled her until eighth grade because of just challenges that she was having and doing our best as parents to guide and support.
And it's not easy.
It is not easy.
And there were so many times, honestly, that I felt like ill-prepared and not ready and not smart enough and not compassionate enough.
And just all the things that parents feel like, how do I do this right?
And so that weekend, my brother's family came, my parents came all the way. They all live in
California to celebrate with us. And it was just extremely meaningful that we got there and that
she got there and just, it's just a real triumph for us and was a really
special weekend for us. And so having you there was really great. So thank you for that.
So it's two years later. Where is she now? What is going on with the family?
Is she graduating again from something?
No, she is not graduating again from somewhere I have a younger son, and he did not
want to stay in Boulder, no offense LFT, but he wanted a little bit more diversity, economic
diversity, racial diversity. He was tired of being the only representative of non-white people in his entire school.
And so we moved to Denver and he chose the school.
I know, LFG, you get it.
I always said we brought all the diversity when we asked in Boulder.
We brought the diversity.
My family brought the diversity.
But we moved to the neighborhood that had the most Asian kids. My son is also an adoptee.
He's a Korean adoptee as well.
And so we moved to Wash Park.
There's a school here called Denver South,
and it had 6% Asians.
So anyone that lives in a diverse area,
you know 6% Asians isn't that big,
but it had the most Asian people in all of Denver.
So we moved to this neighborhood.
And now he's gonna be a senior next year. So we moved to this neighborhood and now he's going to be a
senior next year. So he's looking at colleges. My daughter did one semester of community college
and it kind of wiped her out. And so she's just been kind of deciding what she's been wanting to
do and just regrouping after high school. I mean, we're here to support. Everyone's not on the same path,
but she recently got a job. And so we're really, really proud of her. She got a job at Chipotle.
And so she works there part-time and we go and eat Chipotle a lot. Actually, I just noticed that
on the app, I'm like the top 5% of all Chipotle eaters in Colorado because we eat there so much to support her and just watch her.
And like some days she has hard days, but seeing us makes her a lot more comfortable,
but we're super proud of her. She's now a cashier at Chipotle. She's thinking about going to school
again. Maybe hospitality. She doesn't know, but you know, whatever, whatever the plan is,
we're going to, we we're gonna be there with her
so yeah you are such a supportive parent um I'm wondering where where you're where you now that
your kids are off what are what are your plans are you gonna become an artist you're gonna
start a company where is collab land headed what let's focus let's focus a little bit on you for a minute okay
well i think the biggest change is gonna be that we definitely want to start doing some uh digital
nomading so my son wants you know he'll be going to college my daughter um doesn't want to move so
she might be living with relatives or maybe get a roommate or live
with my parents. I'm not sure, but she does not want to do this. But James and I are thinking
about doing digital nomading, which we did a lot actually before the kids. And now we're going to
be able to get back to. So we love Lisbon. Like, you know, I ran into Lisbon in the street. That
happens all the time. That was actually my sixth visit to Lisbon.
And I love it.
I often joke that I should just get an apartment there.
But we want to do that.
Maybe Singapore.
I don't know.
I don't 100% know where.
But we're kind of beginning to think about that.
We have one more year of him.
And then as much as I'll miss Colorado, I think the winters are not great.
So I'm looking forward to just kind of moving somewhere else or just traveling around for a while and deciding what I want to do.
As far as Collablin is concerned, we're going to keep going.
Like we just launched a new feature called Smart Tag, where you can send and receive tokens within communities and it's all on chain.
within communities and it's all on chain. And so communities themselves can like raise their
token action on chain, but it could be based on what's happening within their community. So we're
really excited about that. We're thinking about doing a community launch pad in the future. So
that might be a part two. So that's a little bit alpha part two of smart tech. And so, yeah, I don't
know. It doesn't feel like work. Honestly, I get to do it with my partner, my husband. We've been married 25 years, but we've been
living together since 1995. So 30 years together. He's my best friend. And I, I feel totally free
and wonderful to be myself in, in my relationship, in my business, in my company. One of the things when we started
and when I was like, I don't know, how am I going to do this? I haven't worked in a tech company
for decades. I don't know anything about crypto. I had to learn. He said, it's okay. You know about
community. And he said, your only job, your only job is just to be a hundred percent yourself.
That's it. So I've never had that pressure
of like being a certain way or having to be a certain way or pretending to be a certain way.
I just get to be 100% myself. So it doesn't feel like working the same way. I get to do something
I'm passionate about and get to do it with my partner. So I don't know, as long as we can do
this, we'll do this unless some other opportunity comes up. But it has to be just as good. Otherwise, I do want I have some creative endeavors I want to pursue.
I really want to. So I have been an improviser in the past. I was part of an improv group.
We had one paying gig, so I'm going to call myself a professional. But I'd like to try stand up.
professional. But I'd like to try stand up. I've been writing material for a while. I haven't done
it yet. But I feel like this is the year I kind of said to myself on January 1. Like, this is a
year I'm going to try an open mic. So I'm definitely going to try an open mic this year. Let's see.
Well, the mic is open now if you want to improv.
Well, the mic is open now. If you got if you give you want to improv.
No, I don't, but I'll let you know.
Maybe it'll be in New York and you can come see me.
Okay.
So I want to go back to the video clip
and just understand what you were going through emotionally,
being a subject,
and having this be a permanent fixture to an art series, even though for you, for you,
it was, it was so much so like celebrating and family,
something you would have like hanging in your living room to commemorate.
For us, it's more of you're, you're the, you're,
you're a participant in time. You're, you're a subject in an artwork.
Like I said earlier, You're a participant in time. You're a subject in an artwork.
Like I said earlier, it's different perspectives from people who are a part of it, who see it, who create it. So I'm just curious what your general feeling having been part of it and not seeing it now two years later and now seeing what the final result is.
Yeah.
It's been a long time.
It's been a long time. It's been a long time.
It feels like yesterday.
It was a bit intimidating, I will say,
because of you and who you are.
So I was definitely a bit intimidating.
My daughter was not, so that helped.
But I was a bit intimidated.
And I just tried to let myself go into the moment.
And she helps me do that,
which is really one of the beautiful things
about being a parent, I will say.
It takes you outside of yourself
and you really, what you wanna do is be there
and make moments and memories with your child
because that's what they carry with you.
I'm sure you also carry things
that happen with your parents into adulthood. I know I do. So that's a big part of it. And I'm
not saying I don't make mistakes. I make many, many mistakes. But yeah, that really helped me
having her there and being able to share that moment with her was allowed me to kind of come
out of my body a little bit but I know if it was
just me there I would have been extremely intimidated or nervous or like yeah just
I'm curious what what's intimidating uh just being I don't know I'm like more of an online person
so like really putting myself out there which I want want to do. Like I said, I was improvisers, part of a team, but that was characters.
I don't know, just being shown publicly like that was intimidating.
And like, is this good enough?
Or am I, do I look okay?
Or just all of the stuff that I guess American women suffer from sometimes was, I could get
in my head about it. But, you know,
she allowed me and really you too, you're so kind and sweet and generous with yourself and your
spirit. So I'd say both of those things allowed me to kind of just be free. And when I watched
that video, and I watched that clip when you sent it to me. It was a bit overwhelming because I can feel how excited we were.
And at one moment, I feel like I was trying to carry her and lift her up.
And she's bigger than I am.
And there's no way.
But, you know, she's still, I know she's way taller than I am.
And, yeah, she's a big girl now.
But, you know, she's still my baby.
She came into my life when she was 10 months old and was my baby for such a long time.
So I just was like, I wanted to pick her up and yeah, I feel that like, gosh, it goes
by so fast.
So I was a bit overwhelmed.
Well, I'm so grateful that you trusted us
and I do my best when I photograph people
to really like break the ice as soon as possible
make them feel seen
make them feel good
you know the Polaroid really helps me break through
it's like this test of some sort
like you're always anticipating what it will look like
like you said it is intimidating because you don't know what the result will be. But for some reason, every time
I take a picture, it seems to be, seems to work out. And the only bad pictures I take are kind of
myself, which is ironic. I could take a great picture of everyone else, but when I try it myself, it's weird.
But let's hear what Ethan has to say, because he was there with us, and I'm just curious his thoughts.
Well, I just wanted to say how great it is to share space digitally here.
digitally here that was such a beautiful day that we got to witness and um i'm just really glad to
That was such a beautiful day that we got to witness.
hear that you know the whole family's doing well and your daughter's you know doing her thing i i
also am a fan of chipotle so that's awesome that you're the top five percent um but, it's just really great to be with you again here.
I was thinking about that.
Am I going to be in the top one percent?
I mean, it's hilarious.
But, no, we used to eat there before anyway.
So at least you can make healthy choices at Chipotle, right?
And I will a little – should I even plug Chipotle?
But I will tell you it's super duper clean.
Like they are incredibly clean.
And they actually ask you if you're emotionally healthy before you start your, before you start your shift.
Like they don't want people there that are even mentally feeling bad.
And I just think that's really awesome. Like actually makes me want to eat there more after my daughter started working there.
So, you know.
Well, that's an interesting thought. I'm curious, do they do that as a policy? Because it's like
the food you serve people and Ethan and I love to, you know, have nonprofit efforts to feed
people. And that's what we're going to be doing from like this project here on out after like
all the fundraising and our nonprofits started started we're going to be starting
these initiatives to to do feeding and other things but what you just said it's like are you
emotionally stable or yeah to to serve and yeah does that have a lot to do with the energy being
put into the food that you're serving i'm curious'm curious to hear your spiritual take on why they might ask
that. But also, do you believe that when you serve people, it's the intention of,
are you feeling good? Are you feeling bad? That they're eating that. And most of the times,
you want your chef, you want your server, someone who's delivering food to be having good energy
because you don't want to consume bad energy. But I'm just
curious if you believe in any of that or how you think. Yeah, you know, I do think it makes a
difference, especially when you're serving people. I mean, sure, Chipotle probably has lots of
different reasons why they do it. They want you to be smiling and happy and, you know, greeting
everybody. They're coming to eat in your restaurant. Like
you definitely want to have a welcoming spirit, but also like, if you're not feeling great,
you might do something to the food. I don't know. Like, I don't a hundred percent know why they do
it, but they just want to make sure you're in a good mental state. But as far as serving, I will
say, yeah, I totally do believe that. I do believe when you're serving people or greeting people or serving people in any way,
like it is an opportunity for yourself, right?
Like giving feels so much better than receiving.
I think as a general rule, when we do things for other people, like the gift we give ourselves,
which we come away with, like lasts.
And when you're given something, a material gift, it's like, okay, thanks. And
you kind of put it aside. But when you give, it's something that stays a part of you. You know,
that's something that you've done. And I think that's really, really special. I know for me in
my life that when I give people things, it always makes me feel better. It makes me feel good about
myself. It's totally selfish in that way.
But yeah, I think so.
Probably a couple of different reasons.
I mean, I'm glad that they do it because like I said, my daughter has some challenges and
she, it's great that they check in with everybody and she's seen them do it with everybody.
Like they just want to know that if you're there, you're feeling good.
You're happy to be there and yeah, you're ready to serve. It's like it
matters to them, and that helps. Ethan, I know you spend a lot of time thinking about this stuff.
I'm curious what your thoughts are in regards to serving people and energy.
Yeah, well, with preparing food, if you just, you know, that temple that we went to in Taos, the Neem Karoli Baba Ashram, I think their intention is that everyone's putting a bunch of that are serving the food are also you know have that intention of
of um good graces while they're serving the food and then and then you know if the person eating it
is aware or even if they're unaware of it they might it's very likely that they can feel that energetic pulse through the food.
Interesting.
So, Anjali, we're reaching our 30-minute mark.
Is there anything else you wanted to share about yourself or this experience
or anything you're working on before Ethan goes into the musical part of the show?
Sure. I just say like NFTs and being able to have a historical moment online forever
and being able to refer back to it and share it and gift it.
Like there's something really special about that.
Like NFTs matter.
They matter for us as a society. They are a way to connect people and share our lives. I definitely
think that there's so much more coming in terms of art and NFTs and I'm looking forward to seeing
it. And I just really appreciate all artists that choose to move into this space
and choose to move into digital art.
So thank you, Justin, for doing the work that you do.
It matters.
I'm interested to hear a little bit more
about what you think the future looks like
because you've been building since 92.
That's when I was born.
And I don't mean to date you or myself,
but I am curious.
You've seen all this unfold and evolve.
What do you think is in for us with NFTs?
Oh, my gosh.
How and if it will become mainstream and part of everything in everyday life,
from receipts at Chipotle to concerts at Red Rock
to art we collect in our digital wallets and homes.
Definitely.
And I see it more going into, like I said,
we were talking about how it's really groups
that are brought together based on attention and interest.
And I think what we're going to see,
it's a verifiable way to see what people are into
and interested in.
I mean, I see us and my like pie in the sky feeling about this is like being able to solve humanity's greatest challenges.
Water, environment, land, like wars, everything.
I feel like people that care are going to be able to come together.
And now with having the same money, right, like being able to transact with one another, like it's it's going to be less less based on, like And I feel like that's what's next for us.
What we're going to see,
like the internet itself really allowed us to first do that.
Right.
Like who knows who's online. You only know based on what you're writing.
And now it's going to be based on what you love,
what you find beautiful,
what you care about and being able to come together based on that.
I think,
I don't know. sky's the limit.
You know,
you just inspired me to think about something because you're so enveloped in digital communities. And I'm curious, it's like,
why is it so much easier to find yourself in a digital community with people
you can become lifelong friends with on things you absolutely love like art or music or or nature or parks but it seems like it's it's extremely harder to do that in
person these days but now we can do it so simply online and i'm not talking about how facebook had
joined these groups or like this thing and have similar interests with people it's like literally
becoming part of a active engaged community where people are connecting and having events, meeting one
another. It's like, why, how did it become so easy to meet people online and not so much offline?
Yeah, that's a really good question. And I don't know if I can answer that entirely because like
I said, my entire social life since I was 18 years old has been online
mostly. And like, I even learned about adoption online. It was on LiveJournal where I was,
LiveJournal back in like 95 or, I mean, it was a long time ago where it was like turning your
diary public. And that's when I first met other adopted children. So adoptees,
young girls who were adoptees talking about their life. And I was asking them about,
tell me about adoption. What do you like about what your parents are doing? What don't you like?
And I've met those women. They're all adults now. They have children, they have families.
And that online relationship that we started, and it's true for
NFT communities too, right? Your friends and your friends online, and then you meet each other in
person. And it's like, it's exact same thing. It's like you translate that relationship that you have
online into an in-person relationship. And that's been my experience from the very beginning for
digital communities. You meet people online, you get to know them, and then you carry
that same closeness and intimacy into your physical beings when you see each other IRL.
And that's something, like I said, that I've experienced over and over again over the last 30
years. And now I'm seeing it again in NFT communities and in token communities. There's
just something about getting to know each other from the inside out that is very unique.
And we're lucky to have that at this time, be alive at this time, where it's not just based
on what you look like or how much money you have or what you have on or having whatever,
your haircut a certain way. But it's like you get to bond and know each other and kind of feel
out your vibes. And I'm sure you've noticed this too, Justin, like even online,
you can feel people's vibes. You can feel people's energy.
Like, you know, who's your people. And I don't know,
that's just something really unique. I think that happens digitally.
And then you meet online and it's like the same spirit is there.
I a hundred percent agree.
There's only one thing that always shocks me. And it's the one
difficult thing because we are in the NFT space and everyone has PFPs. And when you go to these
events, I have like my personal PFP of that's who I look like. So I think people know what I look
like. But when I meet people that I've been talking to for years, I don't know what they
look like. And then they're coming up to me and they say,
like they talk to me for like minutes and tens of minutes.
And I'm like,
I don't know who you are,
but because I don't know what you look like.
And I think,
I wish I knew what everyone looked like.
So I didn't have to be so stupid when I meet them or embarrassed or,
or I forgot who I'm,
you know,
that is like the one thing I would love to personally work on.
Because when I go to these gallery shows at Heft or Super Rare, everyone's saying hi and I just don't know who they are.
Oh my gosh.
I mean, similarly, but not similarly is everyone looks alike to me.
So I don't know.
I have some sort of face blindness going on.
And it's funny because when people are like, you don't remember me? And like, well, you have a beard and you're wearing a baseball cap.
Like, I'm sorry. Like, you remember me? I'm an older Indian woman with tattoos. Okay. I get that
you remember me. I'm sorry that I don't remember you. So yeah, sometimes even if you see their
picture, it's really hard to tell who's who. But once you start talking, if we can all get over that part and not get so offended so quickly about that, then I think we're in good shape.
I hope no one gets offended because I genuinely...
And you've got to have some compassion because Ethan and I travel the world.
We met thousands of people and photographed.
So, you know, if I met you once at a nft event three years ago it's gonna be hard
and that's i'm not not to be an asshole it's just you know it doesn't hurt to like remind who you
are and um i just think especially if we're hiding behind and on pfps it makes it that much more
difficult but that's beside the point um ethan did you want to add anything, or did you want to go into the music?
Yeah, I mean, I don't have too much experience.
I'm pretty new to this space, but I definitely would imagine that it would be strange when you're talking to people,
and maybe you've chatted for years, and you're not sure who it is but y'all go into the music so
I used a flute for today's sound and I just wanted to highlight the celebratory
nature of Angelie's daughter graduating from high school so I'll play the sound now just like a little anthem of celebration
it's so cheerful and fun like I was listening to it all night, uh,
before,
while I was reading the,
I usually listen to the songs while I'm writing the,
the little diagnostic post.
Angela,
what's your thoughts on,
on the song choice here?
I loved it.
And knowing his flute,
that's really cool.
I love the flute.
I love Lizzo on the flute.
I always talk about how much I love her. And so, yeah, I love that it's the flute. It was so happy. It was great. I loved it. I had no idea what it was going to sound like. And it really does feel like light and celebratory and definitely works with the moment. Thank you. It definitely reflects your personality
because you're so light and cheery
and fun.
I'm happy he chose that because I didn't know
what it was until...
I also, just to let everyone know,
I don't know what the sound
is until the day
I mint it because I just trusted Ethan's
sound
for the whole project.
I didn't want to
control the sound because he
is the sound component to this entire
silent film
and I trust my friend and my
friend who
makes the music because I'm not
good in music so
you know it's nice to discover
and be surprised every single day
what we're about to release and I think it's nice to discover and be surprised every single day what we're about to release.
And I think it's just trust and relationship and knowing, you know, he was on this journey with me around the world for like four to seven continents.
So he also, he has a great ear to the world.
And again, I trust it.
I don't think I could have came up with any of this
even using ai so again it's like a magical little gift sometimes it's like a full-on song that i
just want to play and play and repeat sometimes it's like an eerie feeling but at the end of the
day it always reflects perfectly to what we're seeing so i I just want to shout out Ethan. Thank you, bro. And Anjali,
again, thank you for sharing that intimate moment with us to be a part of this incredible journey of
family and friendship and connection and the world, really.
I'm extremely moved and grateful and just, yeah,
appreciative for both of you. So thank you.
It means a lot to us.
It means a lot that you said yes.
And I think that's,
that's where the magic happens when you say yes to the art.
All right. Well, that's it for today.
Ethan, if you don't mind wrapping us up,
Anjali again, thank you. If we're in Denver
or Boulder, or if you want to connect with LFT, I definitely encourage that you guys would be good,
good pals over there. For sure. LFT. Yeah. I'll follow you and let's see what we can do.
He's talking tomorrow on our show. Uh, he's, he's the portrait of the day. So yeah, just wanted to make the connection
because that's what I love to do here is I think the world would be a better place if we were that
much more connected to each other and to like where we are. So thank you. Thank you, Justin.
This was awesome. Have a beautiful day everybody. Enjoy the heat. these are the wounds of the unknown
have a beautiful day everybody
enjoy the heat
try to stay cool
see you tomorrow
