Hey GM, how's it going Lucas? How are you doing?
I'm good. I mean, for Monday. Not my favorite day of the week, but I'm still alive after the whole band-parrie of the weekend. Yeah, let's get to here. Yeah, I mean, yeah, soon, soon
will be moved to Thursdays and I think that's going to be a big change. How are you doing, Rod? I'm doing great. I'm doing great. My friends actually live in Bangalore tomorrow so I'm a bit upset but after all
That's too bad. Do they have good friends that we're living there with you? That's a friend of my good friend who lived before and we lived together. Like houses close to nearby for the last
three months so we get really close. And that's actually from that perspective it would be really cool to gather somewhere in the world and to spend together several months because it really changes.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I look forward to the day where we have a mooned out headquarters somewhere and continuously we have some people, you know, just, you know, living there and working together. I think the vibe is very different in person versus remotely. Also, by the way,
If I move around right now, so if I lose connection or drop off, I'm sorry, hopefully you guys can hear me all right. But yeah, just a heads up. Cool. Yeah, talk about
heads up, I think it's important to give a heads up for the whole community that there are scammers impersonating Mondau right now. So Mondau is not giving any tokens for free. We are not issuing any adrops now or in the near future.
future. So please do not engage with any links and always check the domains. You can check the official moon down domains and add our Discord as well as here on Twitter. So yeah, it's important to say those things right now it's been crazy.
I did a huge cleanup on our Discord, got rid of more than 300 fake accounts in personally Mondale, but yeah, it's cool to always keep an eye open. The crypto space sometimes can be scary.
Yeah, that's wild that it was literally 300 impersonators. Yeah, it seems like they're doubling down. They're the bigger we get, you know, the more impersonators we have as well. So yeah, it's sad, but also, I guess
the positive perspective is that yeah it's a symptom of just the scale that we've grown to so yeah so we have a crystal fair
Today we have a look at beyond Mundial PFP and look as if you could make me a co-host. It's amazing. I'm not sure if you can do it to the back. I think we are good to go.
Yeah, I can. Kauho is amazing. So it's important to have a Kauho's because in that case, yeah, one get dragged. Okay, so welcome Christopher. Sorry, just really fast before we get started. Especially since we're recording and people might tune in later, I just want to
Make sure that it's announced that we were returning on get coin passports. So yeah, make sure that you go to passport.getcoin.com and you you click the the stamps you'll need to verify a discord a Twitter
You'll need to have an East Wallet that has at least one transaction and I think that that is existed for more than 30 days. I think those are, yeah, we're doing very light amount of civil resistance. It's simply not
like the most stringent, simple bar, but yeah, we're turning them on for the first time. So if you can't vote on snapshot, that's probably why. So yeah, just make sure that you've clicked in those boxes. And yeah, we'll keep, we'll keep
keep working to try to make our governance more civil resistant over time and continue to monitor and see if there is any weird stuff going on since we're doing quadratic voting now. But yeah, it's just important that people know that. I know there's some back and forth in the discord this weekend. And that is my
I left this setting on by accident. I was playing around with the passports on the snapshot space. But yeah, we took down the last vote and now this new one that will be coming up tomorrow will have the kick-off in passports. So make sure you have that. But yeah, just wanted to get that announcement out of the way.
of aspect you read. Okay, amazing. So we have Christopher today from Praise, Hi Christopher. Hi, thanks for having me. So I'll put some context
As MoonDow, we have retroactive, not finding, but contributors reward. And to do that, we have to do pretty detailed and long and complicated reports, which takes quite a lot of time.
Christopher actually works on a project that automates that introduces AI for processing and has a lot of great features that we're going to talk today. I just want to add that, sorry Christopher, just one thing important, that this project is part of
give us galaxy I'd say and is not implemented but give us already use it so now the floor is here Christopher. Yeah thank you yeah like you mentioned that is one of the things that praise really excel at is to
to track contributions by a lot of members and maybe don't contribute so much each person but we can track the loads of contributions and do it in a way that makes it easy to convert it into a reward
impact scores. So a little bit of background about me, my name is Christopher, I'm a product manager and co founder of Fraser and as you said, Fraser is a project that was born out of the Giveth, the galaxy or out of Giveth. So it's, if I
We wind all the way back to when the praise was born. It was born as a person to person or as a community practice within a burning man within the art camp within a burning man. And I have some crying kids in the background that I hope will be.
Yeah, so now a little calmer. The community practice within Burning Man. So at the end of each day within this art camp they got together sat in a circle and they did this practice where they praised each other and praised, praised his
So you just call someone up and I say I'd like to praise Rod or Pablo for arranging this AMA, this town hall, that is one item of praise. And at that time they also did shame. And the rule back then was that they praised people, but they shamed an
never shamed people but only shamed action. So I praised this and that person for doing this great thing and I shaved the one who who left the screw driver out in the blistering sandstorm or whatever. But that was a few years ago and then over time, the praise has become more and more of a software thing
it started out as being a spreadsheet and then it turned into a Python bot and a Google spreadsheet and then I was given the task of upgrading it to become a standalone open source project. So I've been working with pace for almost
two years and now we are just on the verge of launching it on a broader scale so currently we have like 16,000 communities using it where Giveth is the most active one and the others are sort of most of them are close
related to us somehow. So it's the token engineering commons. It's the general magic commons stack, that node, bank lifestyle, gnosis style, shapeshift, refide out. So a lot of the projects is some, some in the blockchain for good space or that corner of the crypto galaxy.
So that's, and they're so starting from here and describing what the project does now. There are sort of different narratives and we started out having one narrative like praise, then this was the storyline. The praise is a reward system. You can
use it to track contributions and you can turn those contributions into impact scores and then turn those impact scores into rewards. And that was the first storyline. And the second storyline was, yeah, the phrase is also really good at building a culture of giving and gratitude. It's sort of by doing this
over time, praising each other's contributions, you really make the ties between the contributors in the community stronger. So that is also a really attractive storyline. And then the third storyline that the one we are talking about most today is about giving organizations their memory back and at
I think that is a really interesting concept. If you know we are moving towards a world where everything is more and more centralized and bottoms up arranged instead of being centralized and top down and back when everything was centralized and top down, that had its benefits of course.
with the hierarchies and administrators and managers and those were sort of the keepers of the shared memory of organizations. So it's very easy to find your collective agency where you have a really super focused CEO that screams like, well, they were going this way.
and everyone follows. That is sort of a collective agency even though you might be cursed to follow it. But when moving from centralized to decentralized, we lost a lot of that. The knowledge about who does what and what why and to what impact and so on and so forth. The HR departments are gone.
to find out who contributes, who does what, who makes the most impact and how are we organized and who should be rewarded and how much, simple stuff like that. And when we start making decisions together, it's even more difficult how to allocate resources and reward contributors and stuff like that.
to cut this long story short, we tend to get stuck. You all know this. If you have been involved in decentralized organization, we get stuck. It's difficult to find our shared direction, our collective agency, and it's really difficult to get meaningful stuff done.
hopes is that by using praise we can contribute to giving communities a little bit of this shared memory back and by giving communities their memory back we can also help them to find their collective agency again a little bit and thereby getting more
impactful stuff done. And this memory, we define this as the knowledge about who did what, when it happened, and what impact it had. So that is at the core of what praised us. Praise captures that information in a fully decentralized process, where all
the contributors in the community, in the bottoms up way, they acknowledge each other's contributions, without, ideally without too much of a top-down instructions on what to acknowledge and how and as all forth and how to describe it. It works best when you let the community decide what they
value because then the knowledge about what we as an organization value becomes sort of an emergent property of the work that all contributors do together. But each price item, you can compare it to a tweet, you send a tweet
you give someone a praise. It is just that that simple information. You praise someone for something they did and ideally also you described the sort of the context and the impact. I praise you for doing this thing and this really affected me or helped us to get a new partner
or whatever. And then we add a layer on top of that, which is the impact score layer. And assigning it impact score to praise is not done by an AI is not done by an algorithm. It's done by a human algorithm. So in the introduction, you told that we can automate that a little bit and that
this sort of exactly the opposite is not automated, that is one of the key things. It's done by humans, but sort of a human algorithm, which is quite interesting because it's really difficult to game, for instance. Humans are so much better at detecting weird gaming patterns and then smart contracts, for instance.
So a group of volunteers get together periodically and look at these praise items and assign an impact score to each item. And then each each so each praise is being quantified. We call it by quantifiers and the final impact score is an average.
of the scores that were assigned to it by the different quantifiers. And once we have that data set, then we have a, it's really explosive data set actually. And you might not think that it doesn't amount to much, but it's, you know, imagine looking back at Google and saying 15, 20 years ago, whenever
it was like, you know, we build a data set about people's search preferences or whatever, it doesn't sound like much, but it turned out to be really valuable and powerful. And then same here, we believe that creating this data set about who did what went and to what impact is really, really powerful. So we use
it for for main purposes, we use it to to gain community insights and there we use a lot of AI currently so we can use it to instance generate contributor bios we can use it to generate newsletters what what goes on in the community just by looking at the last few hundred praise items and asking an AI to summarize
those items. We can use it for rewards and reputation and both on-chain and off-chain. So in the end we have an impact score and each contributor has an impact score and of course that impact score can easily be transformed using any formula to be an ear
C20 token that you can use for token gating or governance access or whatever it can be returning to a POAP or an NFT or whatever. And yeah, content generation and insights and also a lot of statistics and just statistical analysis on the data in all
finding out how many active contributors, for instance, we have in the community, turns out to be really difficult because you cannot look at, for instance, the number of members you have on Discord, that doesn't tell you anything. But by looking at the price data, it's super easy to see how many, how many, like, really active community members
to we have. So a lot of statistics can be squeezed out of the price data. So our vision, I'm trying to round this off, our vision is sort of to establish pace as this essential tool or as a building block for community building, we believe that that community
need to harness the power of gratitude, if you will, or bring that back into the digital space. That is part of the narrative about building a culture of giving and gratitude. We need to have that, or we can build stronger, more vibrant communities
that get more meaningful stuff done and if we manage to bring this power of gratitude back into the communities and we believe that praise can be sort of a key building work that every community would like to use if they want to get meaningful stuff done. Sorry, yeah.
I think I'll pause there and see if you have any questions on that. - Person that I have to say that I really like your, not speech, I don't know how to, like how you describe your service and guys, if you,
I think that I experienced a lot of issues that you addressed with your service. So guys, if you have that feeling, please, some sub. Also, we have, I feel free to jump on the stage. I know that we had discussions a while ago about creating
such a board for for Mondao or using such technology for Mondao so feel free to jump and ask questions. In the meantime I have a couple of technical questions so how actually it works and can it and
analyze discord retroactively, finding permission and summarizing what people do on discord and how we can start using it. So, phrase does not work, does not use discord messages in general. It only
uses that the the the praise you have sent. So it's not a generic data analysis tool. There are other projects out there that are doing that. I know there's one called together crew. I think they have the ambition to now pull pull
community data from a number of sources and then you know if you pull all your all your disparate information all the information from your forum and from your telegram group or and your voting data and you merge it and then you can gain all kinds of insights from from that data and also maybe squeeze a
invitation score out of their information, but that is not what praise does. So praise in that scenario would be one of the data streams in that scenario. But so the short answer is no, no, we cannot use old discord information. It starts when you start using the praise
And that is the main way of interacting with Praise is currently through a Discord bot. We are developing one for Twitter and there maybe we'll do a telegram bot after that. We'll see what comes next.
So to start we have to integrate your bot on our discord because right now discord is our main server semi correct. And then yeah, so the setup process is simple you create a praise community over at our website and then you just invite the bot and then that's it. It's a
5 minute setup and that is the thing that we are about to launch on a border scale. We started out with praise being only self-hosted and open source systems. You have to set up your own server and you can still do that and I believe in the long term where I haven't talked about that. The long term I believe is really important that
becomes sort of a decentralized ecosystem of nodes that are, you know, so we're not building a centralized fragile solutions all over again. But currently we know that if we say that the pace is only a self-hosted solution, then like 99.9% of all communities would drop off.
because most communities are not interested in hosting their own servers. So convenience, trumps, the wish for decentralization by a lot, unfortunately. But that means it's really easy for you to get started, just fill out a form to create a community and invite them back and then you're going to go.
That's amazing. So what's your business model? Like if we start using your bot, how can we be sure that we want to lose access to our information ones? Yeah, so first of all, you can be sure that we
We will continue to offer the self-hosted option. Our idea is this that we believe that we might choose a freemium path.
And that the price the core price service will be free of free of charge and then communities will will pay extra for extra features which features those are we haven't decided yet, but we think it's not at all time to think about that yet. We would like to
on board many more communities and find out what communities want and need first. But definitely it's not the basic pray services are not will always be free. And then for the long term again about centralization,
So, my I would like to go similar route like perhaps lens protocol has done and that you the data is also stored on chain on our web or IPFS or ceramic or something so that
The the layer the dashboard that you use to access places just in interface and it's sort of the ideally that the US community would not own the data but the the person given given the place would own every person would own their own
data stream that would be the ideal long-term solution. Thank you so much. I think I have no more technical questions. Could you share some examples of
the impact and applications if it's possible what happened in the community after they started to use Praise Board like what the impact of the service. Yeah so give us I think it's the
most the most most active community and maybe I we did wrote an article or did a case study on them like two months ago and just let me give you some some quote it's by by
Suga of the core contributors to give it, let's see what she says. She says on answering this question, how has the user phase impacted the community culture and overall sense of community among members? And she says, "Praise is essential.
don't think anyone in the community could imagine not having it. Prices an integral part of the community that is to say being able and encouraged to support one another and recognize each other's contributions forms a part of the basis of what the given community believes in whether or not I would say there are rewards tied to it.
That is one conclusion. They use it for a source of rewards, but they would be using it even if there were no rewards tied to it because it's a cultural practice. And that is one of the best ways of getting started with praise is to schedule praising.
Because it can be difficult to get into the habit if you just invite the bot and then let everyone free and say, "Okay, start praising." Because it won't happen by itself. So what will give it to us is that they reserve like 5 to 10 minutes at the start of each
community call or working group calls as well. And then they do join to praising there. And then it's a sort of a really good warm up exercise for creating a nice atmosphere in those meetings as well. So that is one example.
And maybe another example, I could say that the TEC token engineering comments, they used it to track what they called impact hours. So this was one of the earliest use cases of the sort of the new system. And they used it before. So actually this the first version of the open source.
the pre-system was built for the TEC when they were planning to go from being just an online community to form what we call a commons, sort of a DAO with a, and a, their own economy and something shared, something that they take care of together.
together in the form of token engineering. They used it for a number of months up until the point that they called the hatch. And the hatch was the point in time when they transformed the online community into a DAO. So they used it
to track impact hours. So they were not monetary rewards, but they were praising and quantifying all the time. And by tracking those impact hours, they sort of tracked which contributors had skin in the game, which contributors are really engaged in this community.
And when the time for the hatch came, there was an ability you could then invest in the Dow and buy tokens. And one of the determining factors on how many tokens you could buy was the number of impact hours you had accrued over the preceding
months. So there was a calculation. So the sort of early investors got their share and one of the biggest chunks was the sort of the sweat equity of the community, the people that had contributed up to that point, that they get a larger share of the economy, thanks to
using pace. Those actually are really interesting cases especially with the hedge. I was thinking how it could be done really like that. You've mentioned an important
part, how to start to use praise like you have to reserve some time. And out of that, a few questions, two questions. What other common challenges or techniques would you suggest that
like you could mention like what other it would happen. And the second one, how you deal with the retroactive, like we already have certain contributions to the other. So what do you suggest? How to
how to switch to praise and how to keep track of all the previous activities? - And where does those retroactive contributions where do they live now? Have you minted some form of token or is it just registered in some other system?
I believe, well, we have reports in the form of Google Docs and we have scores on a coordinate.
So both worked for the TCN and give it that there was retroactive
rewards, but they had been using praise, that was the benefit. So they had spreadsheets with praise information. So it was roughly in the right format. It was not in the new praise system, but it was in the praise format.
We wrote some scripts and we actually imported those with that retroactive information. But that would be more difficult if you haven't tracked it in sort of the praise format at all. So the key, the main thing would have to be that you would have to have the
the discord username of the person that is rewarded unless you have that it's really difficult to tie to praise at this time because that is the identifier together with an Ethereum address. But it can be done in
theory, you can import data into the system, there's an API, it can be done. Otherwise, I would just recommend you to keep it separate. And then once you turn the the price impact scores or once you want to take the next step in converting these rewards
into something more permanent, like a token or something, then you would have to, there would have to be some kind of spreadsheet magic done there because there's no, so praise is not tightly integrated with any on-chain, like token minting and so, anyway, so there's always
You could say that there's a risk or an attack vector, you know, once you export the data from the prey system and then you turn it into a reward or a token, then of course someone can hack that the administrator can game that data and give themselves more tokens or whatever. That is always a risk.
But that also means that there's nothing stopping you from when you want to turn the praise data into a reward you can merge that video all the data using some Google spreadsheet trick.
something I just I just think that's pretty cool. We yeah we'll have a couple of spreadsheets that we could use. I'm really really interested on the AI power's insights that praise gifts and this is a new thing. I mean I've used praise in the past at bankless
But yeah, I didn't really got deep on it, but I'm really curious about how this sentiment analysis and impact analysis, what kind of data we can extract with the help of AI. We've been also discussing inside the community
for a while now how to build you know contributor profiles and bios how to keep track you know of the individual impact and yeah I saw that you guys have a solution for that so it would be really really
interesting to learn more about that. Yeah. No, I thought I'd read up a few words from a contributor bio that we have generators. You can hear how it sounds, but the praise dataset is, I'd say,
It's absolutely perfectly suited to run through a large language model because it is the language models they use language. That is the API interface, English language, that is what they eat and like. And the phrase is not
It's not structured data, it's not columns and rows of numbers that don't mean anything. It is written in English, says what an actual person actually did. And large language models are really, really good at turning that information into various kinds of summaries in categories.
you can dream of anything you like using that information. And when we also have this, then we have a small piece of quantified data, this impact score, which is a number, which is really practical for sorting, for instance, because
all language models, they have a limited context window. So we need to first select the most relevant information in order to be able to gain good insights. We cannot look at the whole PlayStatocet. We will overload the AI. So oftentimes we do things like we do selections like
Select, you know, take a look at the last seven days worth of praise and sort it on impact scores so that the most impactful contributions comes first. And then we tell the AI that, you know, you should assign a higher weight to the contributions with a high impact score.
and let those praise items affect your description more than those with the low impact score. That would be the easy way to just sort of filter out the noise and you have always you have this base layer of praise often that is like praise doesn't that person for coming in time to community call.
and those more simple ones. But let me just read how a contributed bioconant can sound like. So this is, oh, it's a Suga again, it's the person that wrote the given article there. And this is automatically generated based on the praise she has received.
received by others. Suge is a valuable member of the Givet community, making significant contributions in various aspects of the organization. She has made a substantial impact in the areas of onboarding, documentation, communications, providing excellent editing skills and making Givet more professional. Blah blah blah. And it goes on like that for a few
So it's really, it produces enjoyable readable texts and then we use it for classifications also for contributors. So it says here that she works with onboarding experience, professional editing, excellent questions, trusted wordsmith, friendly welcome.
informative blog post and impactful writing. It's fun. The AI doesn't come up with all this dull org-shart categories. It comes up with its own new organizational categories. So one thing we will explore going forward here is to also use this information to generate something that will look a little
bit like organizational charts. So imagine we run this categorization algorithm on every contributor. And then we can merge that data and create some circles inside them and see a picture of the organization.
And this is how we are really organized. It was not how we thought we were organized. So apparently we had a big group of people that are in the organization, a unit trusted wordsmiths or impactful writers.
So I'm babbling a bit now. Did that answer your questions? That's pretty cool. I think that one of the greatest challenges in Daos, I mean, my memory sucks most of the time. So most Daos, even though, you know, etqueir,
a doubt should be trustless. Most doubts operate with a lot of trust in its contributors and most of the time it's really hard to quantify how compact for a person is and how much this or that person has contributed to the
And maybe for people that are just voters, they're not living the daily community life on this court. I think it's pretty amazing to have the possibility of track that.
it out in a way that it's readable and it's not like a full report with 10 pages for each project. So yeah, we've been talking a lot about how to simplify things and how to how are the best ways to
show the whole community what contributors are doing, what MoonDow is doing. So I think that this part of the equation could be really impactful. And yeah, I'd love to hear more about your vision of future on
How Dows can use those tools to be better if you also encounter any Dows using this as a way of giving more or less voting power, or multipliers, or things like that.
How this play on the long term. Yeah, no, so one one future development you mentioned a Git fund passport, initially there and it's obvious that that that the praise data is very well suited to be a Git coin passport stamp. So
That is something we're going to look into, like verifiable credentials at the stations. The item that is highest up on our roadmap is to turn more into an on-chain well-three project. Currently, we are only using Ethereum as a
way of identifying users. We are not storing anything on chain. By using attestations, we could sort of at least make the impact scores in bulk. You know, the summaries of those to make those on chain.
And then ideally we would find a way to be able to store each each phrase item, not necessarily on Ethereum, main net or even a sidechain. I don't think that is the right type of data to store non blockchain at all, but to store it on our weaver or ceramic ideally because
but then on the ceramic you can allow the users to own and control the private keys to their own data feeds so they can sort of, you know, this promise about owning your own data and controlling gets access to it. That means that you, you as a user needs to own your data and not the community, not the organization.
But you can share it with the organization. So that there's some of the long term goals we have. But in I would like to see, like I said, I would like to see, I hope that pace can become a core building block for communities and we have just built a place explore where you
you can see all communities using paste and you can sort of click around and then click into this community, click out again and look up some smart community and you can easily imagine building even more ecosystem features on top of that such as something that within in a way
replace LinkedIn, not with that goal of taking their market share or anything, but it could feel a little bit of the same purpose as you. If you are contributing to a number of communities and all those communities are creating these contributor files, wouldn't it
be cool to let you, if you like, of course, if you approve that, share all those bios in one place. And then you can share that link to this, my web3 bio, based on not my own perception about myself, not me bragging about myself, not me writing fluffy LinkedIn
in style text about how good product manager I am. But instead, the analysis is done by AI and the data source is information that others have said about me, 100% of it is not like a regular CV is often, you know, it's 99%
the stuff that I say about myself and then at the end you have some quotes or some testimonial Christopher is a great person says this ex boss who is totally biased but in this case 100% of the information would be by community members that have seen you and acknowledged that
work you have done. So I think it's really exciting to see more and more communities using it. And of course, for every community that uses it, that sort of the network effect goes stronger and stronger and it becomes more and more attractive for other communities to use it as well.
I need to be going in like five minutes. - Okay, amazing. So we have, sorry, Kinja, we have name.get. Maybe you have questions.
Yeah, I had a one question. I'm just wondering what the integration looks like. We're currently building an app where we're taking all of our websites, not like a mobile app, like a web app. We're taking all of our websites and consolidating them. So yeah, I'm wondering if we'd be able to build something with
your dev tools that allows us to use praise but not go to the praise website. Yes, you could. There is an API. It's not well documented but it's fully functional. So there you can, if you can read everything that is in the praise database,
easily and then if you would also like to write that is slightly more complicated, I wouldn't recommend that at this time, but to stick with the discord bot for actually giving praise. But that is also the place where the community is more than on the website.
So yeah, that is totally doable. And we have some examples actually on how to pull data out of praise and to do analysis. There are some observable notebooks.
unumsurable, you always script notebooks and also some Jupyter notebooks for Python developers. These are focused on generating statistics based on praise data but they're accessing other API endpoints is done in a similar way.
Awesome. Yeah, thank you very much. I'll check that out.
And then maybe I can just mention a few some closing words or that there are like things to think about or there are pitfalls with this and if you would
I would like to try and praise out for community. There are three things to think about. First of all, I really recommend making it into a practice that you use it as a
check in tool in community calls to schedule time set aside time for for praising together that is the number one way of getting started getting into the habit.
You should also consider if you can find ideally three people that could sort of be a little bit more responsible for
because it needs a little bit of taking care of it. You need to spoon feed it in the beginning. You need to encourage people to use it. And if only one person takes on the responsibility of being the prey, especially if you're doing the quantification part of it.
because the quantification part takes, then you would need to find some members in the community that are willing to do the actual quantification. So you have to do some catherding and some reminding and some internal marketing and so on and so forth. So you can of course choose
where you set the bar, but I would recommend to form some kind of small working group of two ideally three people that could sort of share the responsibility even they might be small in the beginning. And what they said that there was a
three things to think about that was the second one, what was the third? Yeah, you should have a recent use space or ideally you come up with a good reason to use space and one of the most clear reasons that the TC was using, it was really clear.
contribute to the TEC, we track the price and convert it to impact hours, the impact hours will serve as a basis for determining who gets to buy tokens when we do the hatch, when we start the Dow. Really clear focus and people, really clear why people should be using
In some of the newer communities using paste, they don't have that clear focus. It's like, yeah, we use praise. It's nice. And we don't distribute rewards even. And then it becomes sort of a little bit unclear to all community members, like why should I use
space. I don't see real reason, of course it sort of feels nice to get the place and get placed, but that is not strong enough motivation of offense. So ideally you find some sort of clear goal or more clear reason to use space.
That's pretty cool. Thank you so much Christopher for being here and talking with us. It's been really insightful. Thank you. You gotta go. But thank you so much for being here with us.
It's also, it's always awesome, you know, to have great people on our townhouse. And, you know, to think about the future, it's really exciting what we are all doing here in the crypto space and connecting, you know,
new ways of doing things and new ways of praising people. So yeah, I would like to praise you for those amazing insights and yeah, thanks a lot. Thank you. Now, thank you.
at the core of it, of playing the game of coordination better, what drives me and pays. And just let us know if you would like to help to get set up and I'll help you get started.
So guys feel free to reach me and I'll put you in touch with the Christopher Rift. Well Christopher thank you so much for joining it was really amazing like I feel
a lot of things that you described and I would like to be the project, thank you all the grants and activities that you hold in. Yeah thanks, have a good day everyone, see you. Yeah, see you.
So, uh, yet named again. Oh, uh, so, uh, I have nothing to add. And, uh, yeah, if no one has anything else, maybe we can close this space for today.
Keep safe everyone, keep an eye open, don't trust links and yeah see you all next time. Bye.