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MUGA Privacy Mega Spaces
Recorded: July 3, 2025 Duration: 1:39:44Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto projects showcased their latest innovations and partnerships, emphasizing the critical role of privacy in the blockchain ecosystem. Key highlights included Neural AI's launch on Solana, Quicksync's recovery efforts post-hack, and HoudiniSwap's impressive trading volume, all pointing to a growing trend towards privacy and security in crypto.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you
Hey guys, what's up? How are you doing?
Yeah, hang on a second guys, we're not ready to start yet.
So everybody, a couple of minutes, please wait till you're introduced.
Alert.
Alert.
Alright everybody, everyone's excited. That's they uh they want to speak a bit earlier
um trace and i either everyone's excited but we're gonna let the room fill um obviously we've got
quite a few guests on today it's probably the biggest privacy spaces in crypto that we've held
um nine to ten speakers today uh very very excited so let's just give it a couple more minutes
if everybody wants to like, comment, retweet,
this is about the projects, obviously,
today that are going to pitch.
But this is about a human right,
a basic human right, which is privacy.
I'm a big privacy bull.
I'm thrilled to have you all on here today.
So make this noisy.
There's lots of bad stuff that's gone on in crypto in the last week, hacks, fake sites,
all of the very pertinent stuff
we're going to discuss here today.
But two more minutes and we will formally start and appreciate you all that are here and they're going to listen
to this later cheers just a quick one for um eve uh ai and sync i think you're following from the original accounts
just send me a request to speak and then i'll let you um come and speak, guys. I think I'm missing one more project right now.
I've got a request from James.
So, you know, James, if you're a speaker today, mate, great.
If not, we'll do some Q&A at the end.
So no need to request.
So just let my co-host Prestige know in the comments if you could, mate.
Thank you. Prestige, if you can just liaise with James for me.
I'm not sure if he is a speaker, okay?
So if you can just take care of that, mate, that'd be great.
I'm just gonna give one more minute for HoudiniSwap and Quicksync, everybody.
Quicksync have had a pretty rough week.
We'll explain a bit about them getting hacked and drained and they got our full support.
But we're gonna give everybody a few more minutes.
And Prestige, if you can just handle this James guide, that'd be great, mate. Give me one more minute, everybody, and we're gonna give everybody a few more minutes and prestige if you can just handle this James and guy
That'd be great mate. Give me give me one more minute everybody and we're ready to go
Yeah James
So I got him off or is he related to to to sync?
Send him a message in the comments mate
I've been clear twice that if he's a speaker,
great, otherwise you can mug her off.
I'm pretty clear how I run these spaces. you
Hi everybody, it's a remark sorry it is cloak on um yeah speaker mode yeah everybody's everybody's good mate yeah we've got everybody at cut us apart for quicksync
and um houdini swaps so if those guys come on great otherwise we're going to get ahead
and get started so thank you everybody for joining um It's great to have you on another Mugger Spaces.
A lot of spaces are growing.
We're all about lifting up, uniting and supporting great founders,
great projects with real utility, real products.
Because what is the mission here?
To make utility great again.
It's to drive the biggest social movement in crypto,
to win back the mindshare, win back the volume and liquidity
and stop people
investing in clear rugs, scammers and false actors that are here to dupe, sometimes unknowing
founders, some knowing founders. So that's the mission, the heartbeat of the Mugger Army. So
we're thrilled to have you here again. We are growing. We're very, very happy about that.
We're moving out products and services next next and this is a true passion obviously
my is marking on the chief business officer of neural ai the king of ai gaming utility and
you know we've got a big celebration we had this week as a great utility pioneer over a year old
we actually formally launched on solana um yesterday massive massive team efforts really
growing the mission and vision from eath across to Solana to boost awareness. And we'll soon be launching our World Engine, which is a world first
AI gaming platform, which will allow us to literally tokenize AI worlds into existence
through this just amazing piece of tech that Neuro and the World Engine team are putting together.
So it wouldn't be right if I didn't give a shameless plug there, but it's not shameless
because what a company, what utility, what a team. a team and you know it's really on the march so thank you for
being our sponsor as well and you're all we appreciate you we appreciate you the neural army
um for today's show we have um a couple of great um new projects that we haven't spoken about before
and we're excited that there is a prize and a giveaway today so all of these projects have contributed a thousand dollars for a prize pool and anyone with some some amazing kit
so thank you thank you all for that that's um that's outstanding and we really really appreciate
you so what are we talking about today everybody privacy it's a topic close to my heart i'm a
massive massive privacy bull and it's a basic human right which is often abused.
Big tech are abusing it. But we've got some founders, we've got some projects here, which are trying to make a difference in a decentralized world.
Obviously, the passion and mission of Bitcoin was decentralization. Blockchain was supposed to be that, right?
And there are still some crusaders and some real founders fighting for that. And the Mugger Army salutes all of you that are here today.
On a serious note, I wanted to really lift up one of our projects.
I know they've been doing it tough this week, Quicksync.
They got hacked and they got drained.
And I'm only assuming they're firefighting a bunch of different things right now
to get a new contact deployed on Monday.
So shout out to Wasim and the team over there.
And a project that I've been advising
closely, Trace and AI. Another prime example was that we've had a bunch of scammers put a fake
contract out in the past 12 hours. This is what the cryptoverse is like. They'll put a fake contract,
fake company, rip you off, launch a contract. And the thing went up to two and a half million.
It obviously got reported as early as possible, but this is what we're dealing with, everybody.
And this is why privacy and early detection systems,
the likes of which you're going to hear
from some of these great companies today,
are absolutely paramount to navigate the cryptoverse, okay?
It's like going into battle with no weapons.
You're basically naked and about to get your head chopped off.
So we're here today to hear from these amazing projects.
What are they doing?
How are they helping privacy? But also some they doing, how they're helping privacy,
but also some of them like Trace and AI,
how they're actually going to help find through things
like code reveal, rug trace, and proactively decipher
who is a bad actor, what malicious code is from its website,
finding, and all these different things,
and bring people to account.
So that's the mission today.
So without further ado, thank you all.
And I'm going to hand over to an original OG in this space, you know, a project I was in when it
was called Ator before the rebrand, a big bull, anyone. So I'm going to hand you the stage now,
the mic is yours. It's a pleasure to meet you. And you've got your, you know, five to seven
minutes to talk now. Tell everybody about what you're doing and over to you.
Now, tell everybody about what you're doing and over to you.
Perfect. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm a big fan of this movement, Make Utility Great Again.
And these kind of conversations really are alien to a lot of people in Web3 who have really moved
away from the ideas of building something real. We are here to absolutely build something real
for people around the world. You're exactly right. Absolutely.
To give a very, very brief intro to what anyone is,
not more than 20 or 30 seconds,
anyone formerly ATOR are building
the largest privacy network in the world.
Our aim is to have every application
that ordinary people use actually be anonymous
and route through our networks.
We all know VPNs and VPNs have sort of gained mind share
and use over the past 10 years.
The reality is VPNs don't solve the privacy problem.
They're really sort of just shifted to these centralized servers
that still track and log everything we do.
So in our case, we've taken Web3, taken DeepIn,
and built out one of the largest onion routing networks in the world.
Unlike typical VPNs, your data is fragmented among networks in the world. Unlike typical VPNs,
your data is fragmented among nodes around the world
in such a way that no single server
can actually track what you're doing.
So this is true trustless privacy powered by Web3.
And our aim is to take that privacy
and put it into every app through our privacy toolkit.
Some of the fantastic projects here today
are already using the Anyone SDK
to make their messaging app,
their browser apps their
browser apps and more private and our aim is to continue that trend and really make true privacy
which is a human right for everyone the reality for anyone i love that i love that how bullish is
that everybody you know listen to a true og here that pioneered this like i said i remember the
early days of ator you know what a great vision, what a great business. So obviously your business has grown significantly from a piece of product to an infrastructure layer to a platform.
So can you tell me now about how this big vision is also going to enable other product-based companies
without perhaps the infrastructure or platform layer to unite the clans and pull other people into your network, if you may?
Yeah, that's a very, very good way to put it.
The reality is we scale as the projects that work with us scale as well.
So from a dev point of view, in just two, three, four lines of code,
you can route all of your, together with technical HTTPS requests,
through our network without really changing most of the code.
It can just be one library at the beginning and everything routes through it.
And the idea is the end user's experience should be more or less the same,
but they can be assured that their transaction data or maybe their queries to an AI or whatever
it is that might be, is going through a network in a way that their location or IP address is not
revealed. So that's exactly the vision. Empower builders, get the integration in, make it a value
add for products. Right? This should be something that you're proud about in a product and that gains users
and I think we're seeing that trend as people realize how much data AI has and
build those integrations to grow I like the applause thank you
no it's true mate right and I think that more and more people and it's a
generational thing as well I think you know sadly the younger generation is being sort of programmed in a way by the big tech companies to
willingly you know just give away that privacy they don't care about it anymore right so this
is how these things move right they move in cycles just like how they program the world from 200
years ago when the education system was created right hasn't changed ever since right so it's
crusaders and pioneers
like yourselves and companies like the mugger army and all the projects and i would say all of crypto
need for now start making a stand all the exploits that are happening um not just in crypto but in
big tech people need to get in the fight right i mean what do you think about the fight how are we
going to win this battle i think you raised an interesting point there
because I do think from a mainstream point of view,
we're a little bit early.
People are just sort of finding their infatuation
with these technologies that somehow,
given a big tranche of data about you,
could suddenly reveal these amazing insights.
So I think Web3 in general, and the people in this space,
have always been a few years ahead of the curve.
And we're starting to see in Web3 for sure a shift and a concern about privacy, about
their transactions, about knowing who knows what law will come in five years from now,
10 years from now, about your on-chain activity or social media that can come back to hurt
you.
And I think in this space that we're in now, people are realizing these risks and realizing
just as they protect themselves in the real world, they lock their doors at night, they
close their curtains, they need to do the same thing in the digital world, they lock their doors at night, they close their curtains,
they need to do the same thing in the digital world.
So I think the awareness is there.
It's a fire that's waiting to be lit.
I'm afraid to say it,
but I think it will just take one big incident,
one big VPN getting hacked,
or one big data breach that really affects people
for that shift to occur in more people.
But we're here to get positioned,
build out the tech to be ready for that
shift and i'm sure the others you know collectively we're raising awareness about what an important
issue absolutely and look and that's great to hear and that's why you know i guess this privacy
um spaces was kind of unplanned right but it was niggling away at me i just thought you know what
all the things that are going on you know the siphoning away of funds that the hacks just
general chicanery. I was just
like, look, let's do it. Let's see how many of these projects are willing to come on and
stand up. And we really, really appreciate you. So tell me a little bit about what the
next three months looks like for anyone. What exciting product development have you got,
partnerships coming, if you can talk about them and what's the outlook? And obviously
you've got new listeners on today new communities so
yeah no tell me a little bit about that if you may of course so we've been really focused so far in
building out our privacy network we now have over 10 000 nodes including hardware nodes which you
can actually buy they protect your privacy and they let you contribute to the network that earn
tokens we've done a great job building out that network so far. We're now in the active process of rolling out the apps to bring demand and bring users. We
just released our iOS browser app. In fact, for all of you listening, if you have an iPhone,
check out anyone browser. It's completely free. Route through anyone again for free. We've
released that app. We have our desktop VPN for macOS and Windows coming also in the next quarter.
On the token side as well, we have staking coming, which I'm very excited about.
And I won't get into it in this call, but it's a staking mechanism that adds a genuine value to the network.
You can stake your tokens to people running these nodes and delegate your trust to them.
And that's how we add economic security to the network.
So from a holder point of view and a user point of view, we have some big, big releases that you can actually interact with and use.
And we're very excited to roll out those products in the next few months.
Now, that's outstanding. Look, and thank you.
You'll probably see from the projects and the guests we've got on today, part of how Mugger works is after these spaces, you get plugged into the Knights of the Mugger table.
And that's cheesy, but that's old projects.
It's leaders that are going to unite, support each other, do business together, drive revenue partnerships, and really become thought leaders
in the space to make utility great again and drive this movement that we're trying to create.
So thank you very much for that overview. What I'm going to say now is that at the end,
you'll get another sort of 60 seconds to speak to the audience. There'll be, as usual, a Q&A,
and my co-host Prestige will administer that.
I'll say to everybody right now,
reshare post like,
this is a big deal, privacy, everybody.
It's a very, very big deal.
So let everybody know,
you know, for those that are going to listen to this
when it's recorded,
a recorded version of it, okay?
One thing, Mark, one thing, real quick.
So guys, yes,
last time we were giving away a price this time it is a thousand bucks
plus the anyone protocols hardware and actually you can go to the comments under the spaces
and see what the rules are and now back to you mark thank you mate no that's brilliant brilliant
perfect timing because yeah that's been dropped in the comments everybody and you know that you know how we are about spaces
right we want to move through quickly everybody gets to speak you know we don't want to sit on
here for three hours like other spaces do like you know i guess some people have got nothing to do
with their lives right but you know we're builders here and we're trying to make this movement stick
and work so you know thank you for that prestige so I'm now going to come over to my next speaker. It's a project that I know well, Trace and AI. Very, very interesting project. And
a lot of their tools and what they're building really aligns with the mission here. And it
actually speaks to the next level of privacy, which I talk about a lot. Crypto is all about
narratives, everybody. The privacy narrative is very, very strong right now. But I also believe
there's another narrative, which is that the ruggers and the scammers and all of these scumbags with malicious
sites malicious site phising technologies and all of this stuff they deserve to have their privacy
removed from them okay so the removal of privacy for the scumbags that are trying to wreck us
that's the new movement that's the new mugger movement okay and there's projects on here which
have the tools and the technologies and the capabilities to do that. And one of them
is Trace and AI. And I'm going to hand you over to their founder now, Leon. He's an amazing dev,
and I'll let him talk about the project. So over to you, Leon, and thanks for attending.
Hi, everyone. Glad to be here. And M Muga thank you for inviting me here.
So I'm not a native English speaker here so I'll try my best to explain what we did and what we are going to do.
So I'm Leon, the founder of TraceOnAI, really glad to be here and share our journey with you right now.
So we officially launched TraceOnAI on May 5th, 2025 during a tough period when ETH was around 1750.
So despite the weak market and low initial volume, we started with a modest market cap of just 30k.
So that was a tough time for us.
So through consistent effort and community support, we managed to grow that to over 3 million.
to over 3 million so now it's on like 1 million right now so that's about uh tech
So now it's on like 1 million right now.
tresonai focuses on privacy tools and features a lightweight launchpad and it's live on the
dab you can go and like the link is dab.tresonai.io okay so open your laptops and try to search it now
so you can like after using this you can ask some questions
so i can clear it down so similar to like it's like similar to pump fun okay so what sets our
launchpad launch light apart is it's extremely low deployment fees like it charge only 25
and any any new uh who is noob in the space in crypto space can deploy its token so and and it's
accessible and efficient for new projects also and also our current tools includes rock trace
code reveal and launch light these three and fish trace is coming and the walkthrough is coming on
the saturday this coming saturday and it will go live next week so i'm coming over there okay so these three are uh already live ruck trace uh coder wheel and
launch light right now so so now let's get into this launch light explanation anyone can deploy
a gas optimized fully verified erc20 token in minutes uh You don't need to be a developer or a coder.
So there is no code, no hidden fees.
Just clean on-chain execution.
So now let's get to the code reveal.
It scan bytecode and contract lineage
to flag logic bugs, proxy exploits, and hidden flaws
before they go live.
And rug trace analyze valid behavior, liquidity risks,
and contact patterns
to detect RUG pull red flags early.
And the FISH Trace monitors
domain-level threats
using zero-trust crawlers' adversarial AI.
It maps fishing infrastructures
before fake sites even go live.
Like if you connect your wallet
and if you check it through fish trace
you can easily know uh what this website and this wallet is is this fishy uh should you connect your
wallet or not so fish uh fishing attacks in web3 are evolving faster smarter and harder to spot
they clone trusted platforms of wallets uis and use advanced domain tricks to steal assets in seconds.
So whether you are a user, DAF, DAO or protocol phish trace gives you the tools to verify before you interact.
So each tool runs from real-time blockchain data and is built for both technical and non-technical users.
users. So we turn it into clear signals, smart alerts and real protection. So as Muga said,
So we turn it into clear signals, smart alerts and real protection.
privacy is a human right and soon it will be a human found investor right. So thanks to
TraceOnAI technology to remove the privacy rights of scammers and ruggers. So that's all from the
TraceOnAI. So you need to like go to the white paper and go through it and check the dab right now so you can like there
will be like it will raise so many questions for you right now so it's a time like you can ask
yeah leon that's great you know and look thank you for the explanation there just so everybody
knows this is uh leon hasn't spoken before right publicly on a spaces so he's doing a great job you know
and um obviously he's a dev he works very very hard he's into the tech he's into the code and
i think what he mentioned there is really important leon right we don't want people
being reactive anymore so the tools that trace have built are proactive alert systems and
abilities to let people navigate be alerted in right? And we want to start getting people thinking
that you're not just going to come in
and get your 100X in crypto.
You've got a higher chance of getting kneecaps,
setting a landmine off and actually losing money.
So you need to be very, very, very aware.
And tools like Trace and AI
and some of the other projects here today,
they're really going to push a movement
which is proactive privacy protection.
We don't want it to become an afterthought. We don't want it to be reactive like what leon just mentioned about fiz trace
that launches on saturday um quicksync sadly i know them very well um they got hit by fizing they
had their wallets drained the whole shebang right the reaction they've had to the community has been
brilliant in how about lifting them up making people whole and a new contract goes live on
monday but imagine the stress imagine the pressure that puts founders, communities,
and investors in at the hands of these merciless scumbags. So tools like this are there for these
very, very specific reasons as well. Trace and AI got hit by scammers today live. They put up a fake
website with a fake token, right? And they ran a token price up to $2 million.
It's not our contract, so we quickly reacted to that, right?
So these threats need to be detected early.
And Leon, great job.
You know, your community appreciates you, as does the Cryptoverse,
and we'll come back to you with any questions at the end.
So thank you very much.
Thank you, Sommet, and thank you for the listeners.
No problem, no problem no problem all
right now i'm going to just check with um prestige to see how people are interacting how many repos
shares comments we've got everybody get involved keep smashing yeah yeah people are smashing it so keep being active guys at the end uh i will pick a winner and uh we will send you
the price so just to be clear it's a thousand dollar winner takes all right for this prize
there's no first second third place this isn't a beauty pageant this isn't a little or here's a
prize for being here no winner takes all okay and the second prize will be the great pair of kits um from
i nearly said eight or anyone you can tell how early i was with you guys
anyway on to the next speaker now and we're going to have the zk ml crew up uh the mic is yours and
we'd love to hear from you for about five minutes and what you're doing you know talk to us talk to
the community and over to you
hello hello hello hello you guys hear me yeah how are you i'm good man how are you doing very well and it's nice to have you on here we appreciate you being here likewise we're definitely glad to
be here and yeah let's talk about zero knowledge machine learning or zkml and introduce myself to
everyone and also big shout out to anyone i see you guys over there our partners but yeah so we're Let's talk about Zero Knowledge Machine Learning or ZKML and introduce myself to everyone.
And also big shout out to anyone. I see you guys over there, our partners. But yeah, so we're privacy first in the Web3D space. Of course, we're designed all of our products to protect
your user data. We have AI products and we focus on decentralized infrastructure.
But at the core, ZKML is not just a project. We're an ecosystem of secure
applications where privacy is the default, of course, just not an app default. Every single
product in ZKML, our stack is engineered to eliminate data leaks, to block surveillance,
and give users the full control of the digital lines. I always go in our spaces before that we have every single month, once a
month, I always highlight your digital footprint, how your digital footprint every single time you
interact on just a browser or you just go on an application that's stored on a single profile.
And we don't like that. None of us here don't like that. We're privacy based for a reason.
us here don't like that. We're privacy based for a reason. So in response, we created many
applications. We have AI applications. We also have a search browser application. We
have a messenger application. Well, I'll go over them just very thoroughly here. So our
first app is Zebra Messenger. It's a true end-to-end encrypted messenger. There's no
phone number you need to create unless you need to. There's no
metadata stored. And of course, there's no centralized storage. All your information of
your messages, the videos, the images you sent on our messenger is stored only on your mobile device.
So if you log on to Zebra on a different device and you want to get your chat history again,
none of that's there. It's only on your original your original device and of course we're aiming to become the signal of web 3
with a truly anonymous messaging app of course we're currently available on the android all
your android devices the google play store zebra is currently available we're on currently on ios
test flight for apple we've been going back and forth with them.
So we keep tuning up our code there.
But yeah, also ZK Search, it's a private AI search engine.
No cookies are stored, no safe history.
And of course, no one tracks you.
Every single time you're on our browser,
your IP is completely somewhere else.
So of course, our device runs.
Of course, we don't monetize.
There's no data.
We do have partners.
So when we do have partnerships, yes, you can have,
share your project on our platform.
And of course, once again, all your IPs are rerouted via the Anon network.
So all your IPs are rerouted to Anon network.
Shout out to Anon1 protocol.
Big shout out to them once again.
And of course, we have swap.
It's a self-swap protocol to enable private token swaps.
We support major chains like Ethereum, Tether, Solana, AVAX, Bitcoin, you name it.
We have so many of them.
We actually had a big update
swap 2.0 last month as well. So yeah, our token economics are tied directly to the product usage.
So every single time the app is used, it goes to buy back and burns. Of course,
less supply over time means, of course, the higher price action over time.
So yeah, every single fee that adds 60K ML, that goes directly to buybacks and burns.
So of course, the long-term goal here is self-sustained with our growth utility products.
But of course, just like everyone here, we value your privacy, especially in the States,
the Fourth Amendment is your right to privacy, and that should be a global right.
That should definitely be a global right, and I will always highlight that, and every
single one here believes in that.
So definitely thank you for giving us the podium just to speak on the project.
We're always here to just support any privacy project.
No, I think that's – sorry, I was just going to ask you a question quickly.
No, that's a great overview, very comprehensive.
And what I really like about it is obviously the platform, a suite of tools, the plugins.
So talk to me a little bit about your sort of your monetization strategy, the revenue streams, obviously,
because most people nowadays, they are monetizing user data right
so talk to me a little bit about how i know you guys aren't but how are you planning to grow
through revenue ship partners and ecosystem builds and so on and so forth right and how's
that going to sort of peg peg um back to the utility of the token right so as the privacy
sector you know continues to rise i believe it's only 1.8% of the total market cap.
We're going to be more privacy focused projects releasing.
They reach out to us and they're like, how could we have our product or our company highlighted on your product?
And which is why we have ZK Search, Zebra Messenger.
When you interact on our products, you'll be seeing their, you know,
like the top tab, you'll be seeing like a quick ad. We only be focused on them. And of course,
these are not user targeted ads. We do any type of user targeted ads. The only advertisements we get
is from partnerships and sponsorships. And of of course that in order to become a partner
or a sponsor you have to reach out to us and then we send you a quick little a form to uh fill out
we vet we vet out the project of course because we want to make sure that when we show our users
uh you know the new product a new company we want want to make sure they're at least they're right on the spectrum of
being a good, you know, no type of malice behind it.
No, that's brilliant. And that's what I love about the show today. We've got some real OGs.
We've got companies in the middle of the range. We've got some early growing companies, right?
So, you know, we're trying to share collective knowledge, support one another, but also do business together.
You know, like I said earlier, we're going to get you guys in our Mugger Connect networking group.
It's not about shills, though. It's not about calls.
It's about real business people doing real business, trying to drive utility.
And I say to a lot of people, are we building a project here or actually building a company?
Right. Some are just projects. Some will remain projects. some will just remain, you know, one product only, right?
But there's a bunch of people here today that are building real companies
and, you know, it's exciting to do.
It's exciting to hear.
So look, thank you very much, mate, anyway.
And we will come back to you at the end
and then we'll just move on to the next speaker right now.
So the next speaker I'm going to bring up right now,
we're still waiting on Quicksync and I had them in order. I'm I'm gonna bring up right now we're still waiting on quick sync and I had them in order I'm gonna I'm gonna come to cloak now a
great new emerging business and I'm gonna give them the mic and over to you
guys now and tell us a little bit about what you're doing where you're taking
your next steps where the utilities coming from with the various product
launches you've got planned and and we'll go from there.
Yeah, so thank you very much. Hi everyone, I'm Polo, the founder and CEO of Cloak and thanks so much for tuning in and taking the time to be here with us. And yeah, let's just dive straight into
it. At Cloak, we believe privacy is not a luxury, it's a basic human right and that right has slowly
been eroded by surveillance
capitalism, invasive tracking, and centralized platforms that profit off your identity and
behavior. And we're here to change that. And our mission is simple. We want to make privacy
private again. And to do it in a way... Test, test. Do you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you, man.
Okay, sorry. Yeah, we want to make privacy private again and
we want to do it in a way that's easy to access and effective at every level and obviously also
available to everyone and in that way we're not just solving one problem but we're building a
full privacy ecosystem designed for real people cloak is an all-in- privacy suite, and today I'll walk you through exactly what it means,
what we've already launched, what we're building next,
and how each utility plays its role
in helping you stay private online.
After that, I'll tell you a bit about our future plans,
and then I'll wrap it up with a few announcements,
including a fun giveaway happening
in our Telegram community this weekend.
So yeah, let's dive in.
Let's start with the Cloak Guardian.
It's our first live utility, and it's at the moment available in the Chrome, Firefox, and
Edge web stores.
Cloak Guardian is a must-have tool in your browser at all times.
It protects you while browsing news, booking flights, checking crypto dashboards, and basically
anything you do online.
Whether you're doing everyday browsing or working with sensitive web 3D apps,
Cloak Guardian just keeps your experience clean, private, and secure.
Instead of juggling four or five different extensions, Guardian gives you everything
in one powerful, lightweight interface.
We have a few cool functions such as web RTC blocking. We have
a little bit more lightweight stuff such as ads and tracker blocking. And then we also have
interesting features such as fingerprint prevention, HTTPS enforcement, and even cookie
management. So for example, if you're searching for flights or hotels online,
Glow Guardian can actually help you avoid dynamic pricing based on your online behavior.
And if you're, for example, working in Web3, you'll reduce your exposure to fingerprinting and surveillance.
And it's basically just privacy that works.
It's passively, it works automatically, and best of all, it's free and open to everyone and live right now.
Next up, our next utility we're building at the moment is the CloakDrop.
It's a tool for anonymous decentralized file sharing.
And the way this works is you basically simply enter your own wallet address and the wallet address of the recipient.
There's no account, no email, no KYC whatsoever.
And then the blockchain actually validates the wallets
and if everything is correct
you can send your file directly
with full encryption
the recipient is able to download the file
and once both parties leave the page
it's just done and completely gone
there's no data stored whatsoever
the file is gone.
It won't be stored anywhere.
And this is ideal for situations where privacy really matters,
such as, for example, journalists sending a confidential document to a source
or just regular stuff, such as a business sharing client information
without trusting third-party file hosts.
And there are countless other use cases where traditional platforms such as Google Drive
or Dropbox just aren't safe or anonymous enough.
And CloakDrop just removes the needle
to even trust the middleman again.
And then next up, we have the CloakChat.
And this one actually shares the same backend
as the CloakDrop.
So it's also fully anonymous decentralized chat system.
And it works in the same way wherein you enter your own wallet
and the wallet of the person you want to talk to.
Once again, blockchain validates both sides.
And if everything is correct, a direct peer-to-peer and cryptid chat opens up.
And when it's over, everything disappears.
So this tool is more of a like one-time use or just for special occasions and not a chat to keep in contact with someone at multiple times with the same chat as the chat disappears instantly after leaving the interface, as I said.
And there are, once again, no messages stored on the servers, no central database, no metadata.
base, no metadata. Once you leave it, it's just gone forever. And in that way, you're
Once you leave it, it's just gone forever.
secure. But also, since you're entering with your wallet, and that isn't tied to you as
a user in any way, you're actually anonymous in both ways. And a few use cases here are,
for example, whistleblower trying to reach a journalist, or simply just two people who
don't want their private conversations
logged or exposed. And this is just messaging as we view it as it should be. No phone numbers,
no usernames, no surveillance whatsoever. And yeah, all of our tools just follow one guiding
idea and that's that privacy should be easy. You shouldn't really need technical knowledge or
special setups to protect yourself with Cloak.
All you just do is you install or you add the extension and you can go straight ahead.
And we do the heavy lifting in the background so you won't have to.
And you can just stay private without thinking about it.
And then briefly about our token model.
Obviously, as I said, the extension is free.
And the other two utilities I just talked about will be freemium. So anyone can use the tools for free because we believe privacy should never be locked behind a paywall.
But to unlock extra functionality like higher file limits, longer chat sessions or just advanced toggles, you need to hold a small amount of cloak.
advanced toggles you need to hold a small amount of cloak and this structure just lets new users
get in easily while giving deeper value to long-term supporters and holders and just it
won't make it just a token but actually your access to a full privacy suite and then yeah
let's talk about what's next we're constantly building and and we have a few more things coming
as well at the moment we're integrating a wallet and we have a few more things coming as well uh at the moment
we're integrating a wallet drainer protection into our glow guardian uh through a new partnership we
just announced a few hours ago uh and i heard uh maga previously just speak about uh about a project
that lost their uh treasury to uh drainer if i'm not mistaken absolutely yeah and what this what
this basically does is it scans every website you visit
and it searches for malicious scripts
or dangerous signatures
and it will be available as a simple toggle
in the extension very soon.
And beyond that,
we've also begun research and development
on a new powerful product.
We want to make a Cloak Crypto Mixer,
which will be designed to enhance on-chain privacy by obscuring transaction trails and breaking traceable links between wallets.
Whether you're bridging assets, splitting funds, or you just want your finance to be private, this will help you do it, basically.
That's an interesting bit of kit, that one is, mate, right there.
Excuse me?
That's an interesting bit of kit, right?
I think that it's
uh you know it can work both ways sometimes as well right but i think that such is the intent
behind your project and what you're doing it's all about the user right and what i like about
what you're doing is you're talking about use cases here right now we can have great tech but
we have to be able to then relate the use case to an end purchase, right, with services.
And for me, it's about creating awareness.
When you mentioned about Cloak Guardian earlier, to avoid dynamic pricing, like in the travel industry,
most people might even know that when they're on these travel sites, they're looking, clicking here, here, and here.
And based on how long you spend and what have you, the price is going up and they're going to detect all these things about you, right?
So I really like the way you're talking about the use
cases there. So how are you sort of prioritizing your product development right now?
So obviously at the first moment, we just wanted to do the fastest thing as soon as
possible to give our community something to use while they're waiting
on the bigger utilities. And at the moment, we're just really looking at what's the biggest problem
right now? What's the problem we really want to solve? And that's the kind of mindset we have
with every utility we're working on right now and everything we're researching and developing.
We're here to really just solve problems
and not just throw out a solution with the problem
just being somewhere in the background
without really solving something.
And yeah, that's just the way we work with it.
I like that a lot, mate.
I like that a lot.
So that's about the five to seven minutes up now.
And I also see some good opportunities to partner
with some of the other projects up here.
There's some crossover, obviously, that are most.
But I always think if you can get a win, work on some products which you don't have and get distribution,
create a platform and take it to market with more users, it's a win-win.
So look, thank you for that, mate.
And we'll bring you back at the end.
Obviously, right now, we're looking for questions.
So Prestige is monitoring any questions you all that are listening have got. so feel free to ask any questions you want to any of these projects and we'll have
you know like we said a q a at the end um and a giveaway um so no thank you very much mate and um
we will move over now to sync so if sync is here we would love to hear from you and the mic is yours
hey mark how are you ah good day mate how are you very good mate very good uh i just want to thank everyone for showing up and uh listening listening to everyone it's good to have you back
i know it's late for you true soldier of utility in australia right now what is it bloody 3am or something four oh yeah about 4 30 mate i've done the all-nighter to uh
to give the ditch and effort so what a good man privacy ball right there oh you know it
um so i'll explain sync sync's a privacy focused decentralized operating system
um so anyone knows if you're using vpn or anything else, you can still be recognized on the internet. What Sync does, Sync is pretty
much made up to anonymize your web sessions 100%. It works in a simple format with any
browser-based application or CDN device. So it's a lightweight browser built, that opens somewhat like a browser. So it
works in a simple format. So it's a simple sign in, you get a unique user token that
expires after an hour, clearing all logs and wipe clean with no trace or data. It's got
an inbuilt kill switch that will dissolve a session and wipe your logs at the hint of any vulnerability. SYNC's environment is by default guarded by Tor and VPN.
It also utilizes container orchestration, architecture and trusted execution environments,
therefore boasting not only privacy but a secure environment.
So every application you open on the OS doesn't communicate with each other whatsoever.
It's complete isolation
session. So through your web three day to day activity, there is a very realistic no
compromise to using Sync. So Sync is a static interface, very much alive. It's completely
customizable with VPN options options interfaces exchangeable
and there's a lot more to come in with the use of the token on that aspect as well so
sync also has a hub store which is pretty much like an application store it has sync pass a
secure stateless password manager sync smash that shares files P2P with no limits, SyncCrypt which is encrypted and
protected data and DeepSync which is an AI, private AI directly integrated into our infrastructure.
What we're working on and what we've just released is SyncSwap. So we've got BestSwap
that's just come out and that pretty much gives some of the best routing rates to the exchange it goes through multiple liquidity sources next will be the atomic swap
which is that's going to be quite a big one because you'll be able to do pretty much peer
to peer swaps over any network so you can swap your ercs to your brc20s to your spl tokens
and it's it's fast and efficient then Then we'll have the private swap, which pretty
much is a swap observation with time swaps and timestamps across L1s and L2s.
So what we've got coming up now, we're going to be incorporating more tokens into SyncSwap
as we roll out phase two, which will be the atomic swaps, and then phase three with the
privacy swaps. And the privacy swaps boast and then phase three with the privacy swaps.
And the privacy swaps boast some of the best rates and exchanges that I've seen through the beta.
So I'm pretty excited to roll that out.
What we're also working on now is we're going to be rolling out a partnership campaign.
So anyone that's listening that wants to link up for a chat, feel free to reach out.
We're sort of looking to build a privacy alliance within the space. We're going to start scaling marketing and exposure and increase user acquisition to the
DAP. We'll also be optimizing the OS for mobile devices. And we've got a few other things cooking
that I can't really announce at this stage too. Now, you've always got stuff cooking, right? I
think here's a big curly question. For me, it's the tech it's about the utility right so why do you feel that the sync
yeah i just used sync swap recently funnily enough it's got the most beautiful ux ui interface and
the way that thing's built and i think it only came out a few days ago um lovely stuff so tell
me why you feel there's a real privacy privacy bull that the tech you've built can stand
the test of time and is less vulnerable than others. And how have you sort of orchestrated
that tech to be, I guess, a leader from a technology perspective?
Well, you're asking the wrong man here. I just, I'm the business development guy behind Sync,
but I will answer that. So Sync's infrastructure is quite unique.
It utilizes Kubernetes, which is the container orchestration,
and the decentralized T.
So it pretty much has a no compromise nature,
and you retain anonymity throughout your whole session.
Once you finish with a session, it wipes all logs and data
from that session and is completely
deleted so we will have an option soon to run within our own decentralized servers nice nice
and then you can then you can store some of your data in a safe decentralized environment beautiful
yeah no i know cards is the depth behind this he's like you know the propeller head but i know
you're obviously very passionate and know your stuff too and i think that what you just mentioned there about the orchestration
matching the secure environment uh with privacy is critical right because you can have privacy
protecting systems but if you don't have the right environment with the right sort of kill
switches that you mentioned earlier in the right early detection systems which are kind of adversarial
ai versus adversarial ai which is what they're using on you,
then, you know, you're not going to come up trumps.
I know that your system has all that great stuff in it, right?
And because I'm into tech, I'm a tech entrepreneur myself.
I know what good code is and what good tech is versus, you know,
a load of BS.
I know that your tech is very, very solid.
Yeah, yeah.
Like that's why I'm so passionate about it i haven't seen
anything like sync so if you were to create your own safety environment um that that sync gives
you in a simple click um you'd have to have some pretty some pretty good knowledge um you know
you'd have to run um your band to with your tails os and and a hardened system you know which is
the common man can't do so um it really
gives that edge and simplicity beautiful mate and i know right now you mentioned to me that you're
about to launch a you know a big marketing campaign now you've got um sync swap out and what have you
so tell me a little bit about what you're expecting you know for your holders you know
the token price and you know partnerships in the? You're quite bullish on what's gonna happen next?
Yeah, definitely.
So I can't give too much away
because we are updating the roadmap towards token utility.
So there's more of an incentive for holders
to actually hold the token.
But I will say that we're collaborating
with quite a big name in the space to sort of scale user
acquisition. And we are also looking to build the team with a business-minded person to sort
of work on acquisition as well. No, that sounds good, mate. So, no, look,
thank you for that great overview. We'll wait till the end to see if we've got any questions
and we'll go from there but
mate a bit really appreciate you you're staying up for the night just to be on the spaces right
so hats off to you mate you're you're a true soldier of utility aren't you
all right my man thank you very much um prestige uh everything's looking pretty solid in there
right now uh anything to add yeah we have two two questions, but we leave them to the end.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Okay, brilliant.
All right, well, thank you.
And now we're going to come over to Eva AI and their founder.
I just caught up with them, recently got to know their project recently,
and was really, really impressed with it.
Very comprehensive platform built from a cybersecurity background.
So over to yourself now. The mic is yours, and I'd love to hear about what you're doing. Thanks, Mark. impressed with it very comprehensive platform built from a cyber security background so um over
to yourself now the mic is yours and you know love to hear about what you're doing thanks mark we
caught up last night it was a good one you're supposed to be on the phone for five minutes
we're on there for 30. I know privacy people when privacy people get chatting it's amazing how long
those calls take right for sure thanks for the platform guys and uh thank you to uh to all the other chats that have shared so far. Really interesting conversation and really looking forward to presenting to you guys.
So I'm Cosmo. I'm the co-founder of Eva AI. We're a security first protocol and we are reshaping how security works in Web3.
Just like Mark and the Muga Army making utility great again, where Eva's making security sexy again.
That's what I like to say. Get a little sound bite in there.
There you go, mate.
Our propriety AI powers everything that we do.
So from the tools that we build to we've got about 50 plus integrations now that we secured across the ecosystem.
Projects and builders tap into it via
our API and end users benefit from our security first tools that are designed to
protect and give them an edge in this here wild wild west of web 3 so looking
at the tools the internal tools as I told you last night I like to call Eva
Intel crypto caller killer.
It was actually our first tool and still very foundational products. And I think it's still
unmatched there now that I haven't seen anything that works as well in the space out there.
We bulk audit every token deployed on ETH and Intel delivers this security first alpha to
our users before they hit other mainstream tools. So a good five seconds before
DexScreener, which is heralded as the hub for new token launches, we get those first and they're all
audited. The user set their filters, so whether you want your LP to be locked, whether you want
the contract to be verified, whether you want to base it on the audit score that either Intel gives
you, and it gives you early access to the newest gems.
And it's all pre-audited by our AI.
Our second internal product, actually, I heard Quirk mention that they're partnering with a tool that offers similar utility.
We call it Eva Sentinel, Web3's AI antivirus.
It scans every site you land on before it loads.
So it also, again, uses our battle-tested AI
to check for web3 scripts,
any contracts addresses in real time.
And it cross-checks everything,
checks and balances against 52
of the highest rated cyber engines.
So automatically blocking any site
that don't meet a certain score.
So we've gone out with this bold claim of saying
that we're making drainers and phishing links a thing of the past.
It's a bold one, but I stand by it.
It works really, really well.
We've got a strong number of users,
and we're working, as I told you last night,
to make it a default infrastructure layer,
so not just having users downloading it one-to-one via marketing,
but going to Web2 and Web3 companies that we're having conversations with now
to have it integrated by default in their platforms.
And last but not least, it's our upcoming Eva Instinct.
It's the first Petra native sniper,
and we rebuilt our previous offering, which is
called Eva Trading. We built it, overhauled it from the ground up. It's cheaper to use than
anything else out there. We've done the tests and have the metrics to support that. It's got
built-in honeypot detection, also powered by our AI. And if that wasn't enough, every single trade will automatically buy back and burn
EBA. So it's fueling this incredible deflationary firewall that rewards the community with every
single trade. I think it's an incredibly strong ecosystem. I'm biased, but it's a strong offering.
Mate, it's very bullish. I think we were talking about earlier, being proactive, right? So when a
token launches, being able to give somebody five to 10 seconds before deck screen, you know i think i think we were talking about earlier you know being proactive right so when a token launches being able to give somebody five to ten seconds before deck screen you know
how people ape and the dgens ape her right it's just going to have them sort of hold and get this
intel in real time why it's appropriately named intel um it's giving you that tool at your
fingertip right to just make sure you're not you know at risk i love it and i think a lot of the
tools you've mentioned there they're very very proactive so you know from your background in the teams what
makes you so bullish and obviously the tools you've created you've got a background in in
cyber security tell me a bit about the background in the team because the tech's really impressive
you know the the dev our dev is a great guy he's an exceptional dev and he's got a background as
an auditor he is an auditor by trade so we
that's where eva intel came from and everything sprang and developed from from that essentially
bulk auditing with an exceptional ai that you know the beauty of ai is that it evolves so we're
constantly developing constantly iterating and uh we're fortunate in that we have, we're trying to
monopolize that space of security. It's our niche. We stick to that. That's what we do.
We do it exceptionally well. So all of our tools, they have security at the forefront
by default. We're talking about privacy at the moment. And the problem with security is that it's always an afterthought.
You know, we were talking about it last night.
You only think about, oh, I need to upgrade my security after you've been drained,
after you've clicked on that phishing link.
But because our tools, even though they're aggressive and offensive,
like we're building tools for the casino still,
but they've got security built in at default.
So we're making it so we take that thought away from the DGEN.
You don't have to think about downloading the latest security tool.
No, no, no, no.
Just use Eva Instinct.
It's got security built in.
Use Sentinel when you're browsing.
Security is already there.
You don't have to worry about your security.
Use Eva Intel.
You want to find a new play? We're going to is already there you don't have to worry about your security use uh either intel you want to find a new play we're going to audit everything for you and you can select the the new gem that you want to buy you know so all of these tools that are built for
the dgen but from a security and privacy first perspective no i love it and it takes the thinking
away right and the hardest thing you've got to do is change people's habits right changing habits is incredibly um difficult so you know you've got the great tools now
um taking a lot of time to build get it all put together into this platform you know tell me a
little bit about your go-to-market plan you know the marketing um plans you've got and how you're
going to create more awareness for this great um what i would probably call a platform now, right? Yeah, well, infrastructure layer.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, well, with Sentinel, as I said,
we look at it as an infrastructure layer.
So rather, when you get a PC,
you've already got protection built in.
You know, it comes with Norton or whatever it is that you're using.
And that's how I see Sentinel.
You know, that's why we're speaking to Web2 and Web3 companies now, large
protocols to integrate it by default.
So it's there, ready to use.
And you don't have to think about what marketing, what video, what YouTube
we're going to use, what TikTok campaign are we going going to do because i really see it as an infrastructure layer and and
uh with with instincts the rollout that's coming out soon uh got maybe four five six trading groups
already lined up to to use it so that we start with a bang and we're able to show those metrics
and show imagine we're
going to be able to show weekly how much eva has been burnt it's so bullish to and that's from
every trade and every time somebody uses the api in terms of teams or whether they're using a ref
link you're you're burning our our token and and uh you know reducing the supply so got some got
some things up our sleeve that i'm really looking
forward to rolling out especially with instinct because it's a tool that makes people money while
people keep keeping people secure i don't know if uh if you can beat that no but i like it i like it
like the infrastructure layer if you can get this pre-loaded i think that's everybody's dream that's
already on a bit of kit right because then you've already got the distribution, right?
And it's done.
The deal's done behind closed doors.
A very good deal.
And then, no, no, it's exciting stuff, mate.
So, look, thank you very much for taking the time to give such a great overview of the business today.
We'll now get our last guest on, our two last guests on, actually.
I think Neo's going to speak on behalf of Wasim from Quicksync.
So, we appreciate him.
So, Neo, I'm going to hand it over to yourself now mate obviously wasim's um not available right now
i know you've had a lot going on this week so thank you for um stepping up um as we mentioned
earlier quicksync community and everybody they've been fighting you know having a malicious attack
um they're doing the right thing by their community uh wasim's obviously busy i think
you're trying to redeploy the new contract as close to the past market cap as you had before, you know, the drain happened.
So over to you, mate, Nia.
How are you doing?
Hi, Mark.
Thanks for the opportunity.
Apologies for the delay.
Wasim had a last minute emergency.
He couldn't join.
So, yeah, thanks for the opportunity guys.
This is Quicksync.
We are four months old and at the core we are building privacy first infrastructure
that gives user control over their data.
We are not just masking it but minimizing data exposure together.
We have already two of our products live.
We have multiple integrations ongoing on recently very task protocol integrated
one of our products we have a mass premium product as well available right now it's stage x it's a
q and a layer for twitter spaces which works in a reddit trial and also an ephemeral uh we at muga
has support of their army we have been doing mass reach outs. Unfortunately, because of the recent breakout, things have been on a pause.
But yeah, it is not stopping us.
We are team of Dave building for the past nine months apart from the launch.
Also, regarding the token economics and the utility, our revenue kicked in at least uh three weeks ago and we
already secured deals worth 5k usd across multiple domains which included api integrations white
label bots and also stagex so this is so far we have been building that's exciting getting to
revenue getting to revenue that quickly. Congratulations. That's really exciting.
Yeah, that's for sure. Also, a bit more about the ecosystem, what we are creating. Apart from
privacy, we are very focused on a certain niche that is related to collaborative work specific.
So till now, what Vaseem has imagined is that big tech in the space like Google, Meta and all.
These are some giants who have control over our data, who monetize over it, who have control over it.
So we are in a process to create a whole collaborative layer, starting from workspaces to communications as well.
So far we have FileShare, we have QSShare, we have StageX. Another of
a project called FileExchange is coming up. It's for monetization over content for content
creators where we'll be using our Quicksing infrastructure, which will give a privacy
layer for the creators to monetize for the content and pay as you go infrastructure.
What our secret source till now has been, has been the no wallets required, the no logins
required, which is eventually bridging the Web2 to Web3.
So how we are doing is we have a back-end wallet generated, which is zero knowledge encrypted.
So it is enabling Web2 users to come onto our products and platforms
and use it which have eventually made us top ranked over google and bing at some time we were
ranked top three currently we are ranging between five to seven organically over google and bing
uh you can visit our websites quicksync.com our socials are active and we are preparing for the relaunch.
It's sensitive for Monday.
Team have been busy with that.
We have advisors onboarded from Astro AI.
Dino is working really hard with us.
We have support of Muga Army.
Mark has been a pioneer with us, you know, in terms of delivering our products,
making it readily available to utility projects like
that we have onboarded today. So it's been great, man. And yeah, looking forward to more.
No, thank you, mate. It's a pleasure to do it. Like I said, last the other week, we pioneered
stage X, which is a great tool to add spaces, right? And you've already got revenue brought
in from that. So that's what we try and do for the project so you know we don't just put you on spaces we have
specific packages and services on how to give you visibility look hook you up
with partnerships you know KOL's recruit manage them which is an art in its own
right I'm sure you'll all agree about that there's pros and cons with
everything that we do right but genuinely our call we want to make
utility projects great again and look thank you so much for stepping up at short short notice neo i'm sure wasim and the um quick sync team appreciate you
it's an absolute pleasure to have you and um obviously we're wishing you all the best um for
monday um as well so there wasn't it wasn't just wasim that couldn't make it today we we had
privips who were going to come on today so sadly brown wasn't able to to make it uh because he's
traveling he's traveling.
He's got an important business meeting.
I know they're shipping a lot of product.
He's got a lot going on over there right now.
So I just wanted to say a few things for him quickly
because obviously that's what the Mugger Army does.
It lifts up its members.
It tries to support them in the best way possible.
So a few quick little snippets for them
if you don't know them.
Their privacy spot and Perp Dex was deployed
on Privix Chain. So that's live now. So congrats to those guys. It's a pretty darn big milestone
to get there. It's a testnet version, obviously. And for those of you who don't know, usually you
hit testnet before you go into mainnet. Also today they launched Privix Privacy Locker Mixion.
That went live today. And it's testnet version as well and you
know the privix launchpad i believe is coming soon so look you know hat off to brown the team
all their support they've got a big kol crew behind them they've got a very very active community
so you know he said there's a lot more coming as well and you know sorry that he couldn't make it
here today and we'll probably see uh brown and wasim um on another show um sometime soon so um look good luck guys and uh
great work thus far now finally and last but not least uh to bring up to the stage a very interesting
project founder and team um obscurion so come on up grab the mic and um thank you for waiting it
out you know and tell us a bit about what you're doing, why you're different, and yeah, over to you, mate.
Hey, of course. Thank you. I'm honored to be here today representing OBSC.
Like our other guests, we have a strong fundamental belief in privacy as a basic human right.
Before I get into the project, quick sympathies to all those impacted by that recent hack.
Definitely wish you guys luck in overcoming that.
It is important that we all stick together in the space.
It really is just a massive testament to how risky and unforgiving the crypto space can be.
In terms of the ethos here that are of the space, I think we could all probably agree that our privacy has not just been eroded over the last couple of decades, but nearly obliterated.
It just seems like little by little, you know, inch by inch, we see kind of increases in these surveillance states, right?
Which nobody wants except for tyrants of course exactly preach there you go
so projects like ours are definitely among the ways to help slow this erosion of our basic human
rights but in addition to this it is important to recognize that crypto is an extremely fragmented industry and it can be very difficult
and overwhelming to navigate, especially for newcomers. We've got all these chains, all these
networks, all these bridges, all these DEXs. And a lot of people are curious and would like to
navigate the space, but they hear all these horror stories that people like us share after years in the space. And it is a massive deterrent, but you know,
enter OBSC to step in and kind of reduce the friction and risk and do a lot of
this heavy lifting. So briefly into the DAP and the protocol and what it is that
we offer our main core functionalities at the moment are the ability to
privately move your code between chains and wallets.
So basically getting yourself a fresh start on your wallets without any trace or history in your fresh new wallet.
No connection to your previous wallet.
We do offer trading where you can privately swap and trade thousands of DeFi tokens.
As I mentioned, the fragmented industry, this really does eliminate a lot of the friction because you're able to achieve
these swaps without the need to ever potentially connect your wallet to a phishing link in fact
there's no wallet connect at all um doesn't matter which chain of the of the supported chains that we
have um you are purchasing with and it doesn't matter what chain of the supported chains that we have you are purchasing with.
And it doesn't matter what wallet you would like to receive your tokens on.
You can privately trade thousands of tokens without these risks, without the need to potentially accidentally get yourself a wallet drained.
accidentally get yourself, you know, a wallet drained, right? So when we do all this, we achieve
all this with very competitive rates that all support the ecosystem, right? So 100% of the fees
collected by the Obscurium debt go right back into the chart. So it's a win-win for everybody that is
supporting the project, which by the way, shout out to all of our early OG supporters.
We may not necessarily have the name recognition and the mass adoption that we are aiming for,
but we will certainly achieve this.
The success, we truly believe, is hard-coded into the structure and foundation of our project.
And we definitely owe a lot of that to the early community that has come in here
and is helping to support us as we go.
We do offer partner programs where we kind of highlight our partner tokens,
you know, at the top of the drop-down menu,
enabling the private trading of their tokens.
So while you can paste the CA and get thousands of options,
our partners are kind of highlighted there at the top.
And we just proud to announce that we recently released Spark,
which is the ability to privately fund new wallets
with native gas in one click.
Again, no wallet connect required.
Doesn't matter which of our supported chains you are initially funding. This is a great tool. You can actually take
your ETH and split it as you choose into as many as five wallets currently, and this will
be expanded later. No need to bridge. Again, our unique protocol will do all the heavy
lifting for you. So again, scalability is our goal. Adoption is our goal.
Total agreement with the ethos that you have described in this introduction. There's just
not enough accountability in the space. Nobody here wants to cater to bad actors.
We are all defenders of not only privacy and freedom, but we are proponents of the mass adoption of crypto
and we need to help make this fragmented industry as easy to navigate as possible
absolutely no i love that mate it's not just about the tech right it's about how do we
create awareness first then how do we pull people in and obviously you know things change
generationally right that's how people get programmed they get programmed
decades in advance and what is sown into people from an early age and what they're told that oh
it's not that big a deal you don't need to worry about that because we'll hang this nice little
carrot there for you give us all your data and we'll pay you this and we'll do that and we'll do
that right you know and even the social media giants of our time we all know about their tactics
and how they're interwoven to actually probably eventually have our children, people living uplinked into a metaverse or some sort of dystopian future.
That ain't going to happen.
Mugger Army is not up for that.
I'm sure none of you guys are up for that.
Right.
So this is the battlefield right now.
It's not just the battlefield of crypto.
It's the battlefield of future rights.
It's a battlefield of privacy and here's the reality
if we can't get it right here in a decentralized world which is what crypto effectively is
what is the hope for the mainstream the web2 folks to to pioneer it right so tell me a little
bit about your your sort of strategy to mass onboard people um into your um you know your kits? Yeah, well, first, we do have a very strong and supportive partner network.
We definitely are built for growth rather than hype.
So while we may be an emerging name among giants, we are considering ourselves quiet
disruptors, just really focused on precision, timing and long term relevance here.
So if you look at the market share of some of our
competitors and what they generate in fees, which some are in the ballpark of tens of thousands of
dollars a week, once we get this name recognition and we achieve these levels of usage, this is why
I use the words that our success is hard coded into the platform here.
Right. So once all of the smaller fundamental parts are delivered and we release the full arsenal of DeFi to DeFi swaps,
which is going to host an arsenal of chains in which a user can, you know, potentially, for example,
trade a sole token for a base token without any need to visit a Dex and connect and then get visit a bridge and connect and then visit
another Dex and connect definitely definitely skipping all these
intermediate risks and steps is is is part of the plan and I think the user
acquisition is is going to just fall into place very neatly as we continue developing the way that we have.
Absolutely.
We have a very strategic marketing plan that really is designed for the long term.
Absolutely. And that's how you build, right? You're building for the long term. Most utility
projects are, albeit there's a few disingenuous ones which knock around just like anything right just on on eif on sol you
know i think utility season is coming soon everybody privacy season is going to be here
i think for this cycle utility privacy ai um you know and gaming and probably rwa are going to be
the big ticket item so i think anybody here that's wanting to benefit, really get that narrative, get that movement going.
And at the end of the day, the net benefit is awareness for everybody
and a lot of noise.
So, look, thank you very much for talking about your great project today as well.
And, you know, like I said, afterwards,
we're going to get all you guys hooked up in Mugger Connect
so that you can look at synergies between yourselves
and ultimately figure out if you can do business together. So last but not least, we haven't spoken in a while, but my friends over at Houdini swap,
welcome to the stage and the mic is yours. How you doing? Oh, it's dropped off. Let me get you again here we are mate how are you
hey did you call me kind of uh cut out there real quick yeah no i just said how you doing it's been
a little while since we spoke but it's great to have you on here again so the mic is yours my
friend we're gathering momentum here yeah yeah yeah good, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I appreciate you, man.
Sorry, my sincerest apologies to all the speakers and for joining late.
It's just been a crazy day.
We just rolled out a product release.
So my bad.
I've just been on back-to-back all afternoon.
But, yeah, man, it's always an honor and a pleasure to kick it with you guys.
So I know you have some phenomenal speakers up here.
So I'll have to listen to the recording at the gym later. But, later but uh yeah man all is good what's going on with you everything all
right mate very good yeah i mean i'm just thrilled to have all these great projects on here now when
we last spoke you know like i said mugger's just over two months old two months in a couple of days
right but i'm thrilled to have such great founders great projects people that truly care wanting to
make utility great again so it's an honor for us to run the show and build out mugger and we spoke very early in the journey i'm speaking
to some of you for the first time this week that are on here right i think you know our heart right
it's it's of the people for the people and we're we're in a battle right now not just for privacy
but for making crypto great and making it sure that it's safeguarded for many many people to come
in the decades to come and if we don't take this fight for real right now, then we're not going to be all here in years to come.
Right. So it's pretty damn serious. That's how I see it.
Mate, what do you think?
Yeah, man, I appreciate it.
Like when I first when I first joined the space, all I all I heard was utility and privacy.
I was like, OK, man, I'm like, you know, I'm in the right place.
I'm amongst, you know, I'm in the right place. I'm amongst my, my peers. But yeah,
man, look, it's like what you guys are doing for the for the industry is obviously super important.
And, you know, encouraging just people to to look at the fundamentals, you know, look at the metrics
that are really important and chart well, you know, whether they're investing or just even
trusting a project to connect their wallet, both are equally as important. So I love that you guys are kind of seeding people
with the right mindset.
And, you know, there's a lot of vapor out there.
So, you know, no disrespect.
And, you know, like it is what it is.
You know, if you're able to capture the mindshare of everyone,
then, you know, that's a skilling of its own.
But I think we do a pretty good job uh putting utility at the forefront of our business
model and uh so yeah happy to chat about anything and uh i'm open well mate tell me about your new
products the new product product developments and for those of you that don't know houdini swap
maybe just a quick sort of elevate a pitch on who you, what you do, right? And then come to some of the new exciting advancements, if you may. Yeah, cool. Will do, man. So yeah, so I definitely
think HoudiniSwap's a little bit misunderstood. So I'll try and just give some brief context here.
And then any questions, just feel free to holler at me. But we basically started HoudiniSwap two
and a half years ago. Very simple goal and ethos in mind,
really just to provide compliant private transactions for users.
So ability to send Bitcoin to ETH or, you know,
even like Aptos to Cardano or long-tailed assets,
you know, GigaChat on sold to Mog on base
in one click on HoudiniSwap.com
with this idea of sender and receiver anonymity.
And if you guys think about all the privacy solutions that existed at this time, you know,
two and a half years ago, they really opened the doors to, you know, just sketchy criminal
activity, nefarious activity.
You can think about like the tornado caches of the world, the coin joins, you know, like
let's say like the mixer category. You can also think of, you know, about like the tornado caches of the world, the coin joins, you know, like, let's say like the mixer category.
You can also think of, you know, like the centralized exchanges, you could get some
degree of privacy through a sex, but, you know, obviously you then encountered a whole
host of other risks, counterparty risks, um, you know, fee risk, like lack of token availability
risk.
Even more recently, you're seeing things like, you know, KYC honeypot risks and data breaches with Coinbase, stuff like that. So and then there was like privacy tokens
like Zcash and XMR, which didn't really have much smart contract capability, DeFi capability,
really just like commoditized assets that, you know, privacy tokens themselves. So we wanted to
create something that was like a privacy exchange. And there was a real gap in the market to do that.
So we created HoudiniSwap and like our whole ethos was that if crypto, you know, was to achieve this global widespread adoption, then privacy would need to exist.
And when I talk about privacy, I mean like just Web2 privacy ported over to Web3, right?
like solving for use cases like trading, payments, payroll, like commerce, remittance,
you know, like charitable donations, like financial ops, investing, things like that, right?
And so the whole idea was that, you know, if you're going to go to Starbucks one day
and pay for your coffee and crypto, as soon as Starbucks gets a hold of your public keys
for that transaction, they're able to see, you know, every transaction you've ever placed on chain,
how rich or poor you are, you know, every asset you've ever held,
like full permissionless access into your quote unquote,
like web three bank account.
And we just thought that that was fundamentally wrong and flawed.
And there's, you know,
a million use cases and testimonials I can go through,
but I'll just leave it at that.
And that was really like the inception story for Houdini swapap. And we really grew pretty organically via word of mouth
to the point where, you know, now we're doing anywhere from, you know, 30 to 60 million in
volume per week on our front end. And it's just a really, really, you know, beautiful business
model. But I guess like the one line to really sum it up is Houdini
Swap is the largest cross-chain liquidity aggregator with a unique set of privacy features.
We're not our own DEX. We are an aggregator. So we are sourcing all the liquidity from
the top venues in crypto. We are non-custodial through and through. There's no Houdini swap wallet.
So what we provide is just like a currency exchange with privacy. You can think of it as simple as that or like booking.com for your destination with privacy. And that's what we
do really well. Mate, that's a great overview. And I love your passion. And when we first met,
I just heard this passion. And I think that you you know, you're very modest as well, you know,
talking about the 50 to 60 million weekly.
That's no easy feat, you know.
I know you're continuing to push and gather mindshare.
So tell me what your next sort of plans are, right, as an OG in the space.
Where does Houdini swap go?
You know, who perhaps do you partner with on the spaces today?
Drum up some more partnership. What does your future look like for you guys oh man it's uh it's been crazy
so like i would say like you know what got us to like our so we're sitting right now at like
you know three-ish billion in cumulative uh volume i'd say like what got us to the first billion and
and you know what got us to our first few billion will definitely not be the same thing that gets us to our next, you know, 10-ish, 20, 50 billion.
But what got us to the first billion was really, yeah, this privacy thesis.
It was fully, you know, fully bootstrapped, fully organic, word of mouth, demand, no high-flying VC raise or anything like that.
We really were just, like, solving a problem in crypto.
And we're like, you know, at the very least, if nobody uses this, at least we'll use it.
And, like, you know, whatever. Like least, if nobody uses this, at least we'll use it. And like, you know, whatever, like we live another day and everything's
good. And then it caught, you know, it caught fire and everyone started using it. So that kind
of got us to our first billion in transactional volume was this idea of compliant private
transactions. I'd say like what got us to the next two slash three billion was really this idea of
any token to any chain. So like, you know, not. So not just also still leaning into privacy,
but giving users, solving the UX issues
and this massive second challenge that we felt
that we were facing,
which was around just UX interoperability.
And it all kind of stemmed when I was messing around
in base ecosystem and it was so easy to bridge into base,
but it took like seven days or like i can't even
remember how long and how frustrating it was to get out of base ecosystem and i was like man this
is coinbase's l2 like this is completely mental that like i have to deal with this kind of ux on
like such a top top well-funded you know l2 and so we we wanted to solve this idea of any token
on any chain to any token on any chain in one click.
Doesn't matter what wallet you have.
Doesn't matter where you're custodying your assets, what token you want to go to, what chain you want to go to.
Full abstraction to the point where you have yen, you want pesos.
Boom, you're off to the races.
Here's your quote.
You trust the counterparty and it's reliable and you're good to go so that's like you know and that has enabled us to partner with like
so many different chains right they use us as like this cross-chain connector right so sonic comes
onto the scene and they're like hey we want bitcoin eth sole base you know arbitram all these assets
to sonic in one click and we're like perfect like let's let's let's run it and
then same thing with monad and vera and supra and all these you know it's only becoming more and
more fragmented in crypto as we see more l1s and l2s spawn every single day it seems like so
that's like our second for like our second feat into crypto which is like interoperability all
just bucketed as that where we're where we're really headed now i'd say is
like we just we just finally launched our v4 which was like you know we've basically been
shipping this since uh since since christmas it's honestly so nice to have out there but
it's just like a full you know full front end refresh full ui refresh has some like pretty
epic features like a route selector where you can see like best price, fastest speed, and then like privacy modes.
It gives you like, you know, all these advanced features, which we've we've never really had.
So we're we're super thrilled about that.
But I would just like, you know, like the goal for us is to get to a billion dollars a week in transactional volume.
The way that the way that personally, in my opinion, and, you know, you'd have to ask a few other core team members what their thoughts are but at least from my view the goal is really to to expand as much
as we like we're just in full blitz growth scaling mode right now right so that's like
so there's a few different areas to that the first is like token listings that's been crazy crazy
beneficial for us we've whitelisted over like 150 tokens over the past year,
enabling them with privacy, enabling them with cross-chain, enabling them with all this growth
and marketing benefits. That's been like one growth vertical. The second has been like our
B2B partnerships. So like trying to get our API or like our privacy tech in like, you know, like, like, like payments platforms, you know,
indexes, trading terminals, trading bots, like you name it. And so like, we were able to land,
you know, like, like Maestro, which is like the OG sniping bot in crypto. So they use our privacy
tech. Nice. Nice.
Maestro wallet privately. Yeah, pretty innovative on that side. And then the third is like,
just all the stuff that we like that we that we know about, right, like thought leadership, ambassador
programs. Right now, if somebody is doing like 50 million in volume per, you know, with us per
month, they're getting treated as equally as someone who's doing 5 million in volume, you
know, per month for us. So like that, that definitely needs to change. So just, you know, per month for us. So like that, that definitely needs to change.
So just, you know, certain incentives around, you know, volume thresholds, token thresholds.
So all these things are coming together brick by brick.
But yeah, man, it's, it's all part of the process.
And we're just, we're thrilled about how things have been going.
And the final thing that I'll just say is like the really nice thing about having a privacy swap is that it's kind of like it's kind of like an uber black product for crypto.
Right. Like the monetization on on the privacy side is far greater than like what you can expect from like a traditional Dex or something like that. So we don't need to do $4 trillion of cumulative volume like Uniswap does to be comparable to Uniswap when it comes to things like revenue and earnings and cash flows.
So it's a really nice, clean, lucrative business model.
And so we have what I like to call first world startup problems.
Like we're growing.
How can we grow 10x faster you
know like the team is incredible how do we expand the team so and i've been at startups where it's
been like all hell has broken you know the product doesn't work like things are failing there's bugs
every day like the devs quit like it like it's just i've been through hell and back and so it's
just it's a really nice um it's a really nice like use case that we've carved out it's a really nice thing that we're doing and
I'm just really really happy with the team and how things have progressed and and really like
you know if the crypto ecosystem like again the another benefit of being that being in the
aggregation space is that you support the entire crypto landscape right so like a lot of people
will be like yo send me 10 soul or,
hey, man, I got a shit coin launching, like, let's like fund your wallet with five ETH on Houdini swap, right? So if ETH is now worth $5,000, right? Or Bitcoin is now worth $500,000,
everything gets marked up on our exchange, right? And our volumes just become that much more
much more significance like obviously so i know this is nothing new to people but like it's just
significant, like obviously. So I know this is nothing new to people, but like, it's just,
it's nice to have not much like specific token risk um because even if asset prices go down
people are still buying right and like getting like absolutely no you've reached that important
stage of the business now mate right where you know it's it's growth mode but you've got a stable
platform you know and i think it is very much a business company you've built here right and the passion the leadership it really comes through mate so
no well look thank you thank you again for coming on here mates as well i'm just going to sort of
you know hand it over hand over to some of the other guys now i'm gonna check for q a and
questions um prestige over to you mate now so tell tell me a little bit about who has any questions if they have any.
Yes, thank you Mark. So we have two questions, one for TraceOn.ai and one for Anyone Protocol.
So whoever wants to start. First question for Treyson. I just want to know if narrative scores are calculated from social signals.
That's a question from Dino.
Leon, are you there mate? We've got a question.
Pardon me, can you explain it? Yeah, Prestige, can you ask that question again, please?
Yeah, so the question is, he wants to know
if the narrative scores are calculated
from social signals in your system,
or is it some kind of other function
that you use to make those narrative scores?
Yeah, we worked on the Narratron bot. So after that, we just like stopped working on that idea.
And we go with these three tools right now, Rucktrace, CodeReveal and Feistrace. So,
reveal and uh five five trace so so nanotron is live also we didn't reveal it yet but anyone can
test it if they dm me like the board is already developed so we were not confident on that tech
that is why we excluded that from our project and from our white paper also in the very initial
stages like in the first two weeks, we dropped that idea.
So we have the bot already and it's live also.
We tested it, but we were not confident on the tech.
So we can build it that like our developers told me.
And I'm the dev also and we have a team of seven peoples.
So that only is not a good idea because it needs a lot of like data training
models so it will take a lot of time and this is a very big idea so anyone can work on this we also
we will also work in this on future future also so for now i'm again saying it's live and anyone
can test it if they want to thanks thanks thank thanks. Thank you, man.
Second question,
Anyone Protocol.
Simple question,
whether the Anyone SDK is open source or not.
Great question.
Yes, it absolutely is.
We have the SDK live for NPM
and you can also use the client natively
across different OSs. Both of
those, you can see the source code on
GitHub. You can see there's a wrapper around
the Anyone client, which is also
open source on GitHub. So, check
out the website. It's on linked from our Twitter
and from there you can see the
GitHub. Everything is open source.
Thanks. Thank you very much.
Back to you, Mark, and we probably will go to the giveaway.
Yeah, look I think this time we've been on for like an hour and a half now.
I always like to give an hour and a half limit so everybody has a good chance to speak, you know.
Especially we've got this many guests.
So talk to me a little bit about who's going to win the giveaway Prestige.
That's always your call, mate?
So guys great. Sorry. Can I add something here? Yeah, go for it, man. Sure So we are also working on on our API and the video demonstration is already updated
So it is coming out next week. So this Rucktrace code reveal and launch light
trace code reveal and launch light uh we have uh like developed the endpoints so any project if you
We have like developed the endpoints
if they want to partnership with us they can use our endpoints and integrate into their techs
tech easily so uh so we've built the tech from scratch so then you can like also contact us
next week okay no worries mate thanks thank you for that, appreciate that. So Artur, who are we picking?
We've got a thousand dollars, we're gonna pick somebody and then we're gonna get their address, DM you, right?
Yes guys, so thank you very much.
The engagement was very good.
I appreciate everyone commenting, liking.
Actually, not everyone follows the rule exactly.
Some bothered comments and so on.
But one comment stood out to me and actually followed the rules.
The comment of the day is,
the crypto space will eventually appreciate what TraceOn.ai is building,
particularly with its privacy and
blockchain security centered narrative anyone is doing a great job centering around privacy
powered by deepin and as mugger army said privacy is a fundamental right
that's the word for the day congratulations Congratulations! Parker, it's your comment.
ParkerABSS, I'm gonna DM you and we will exchange your address and send you the price.
Excellent! And then for the next one we have the Anyone giveaway.
So who are you going to select for this great bit of hardware?
Winner takes all. Winner takes all we said. So Parker it's...
Oh you're gonna give him the hardware too? Why on earth not then? I was thinking of two but you know what?
Let's just give them all to Parker. Parker there you go.
So I'm gonna
DM you okay Parker do DM yeah actually yeah we'll yeah we'll do that yeah yeah
we'll do we'll get that all sorted out so we can do the logistics my that's
brilliant thank you and thank you very much as well so cool guys so that's it
from my side excellent thank you and you. And look, everybody, all the guests, you know, speakers,
we really, really appreciate you being here today.
I think it's been a great space.
Thank you for your time.
I know you're all incredibly busy.
And, you know, we're in the war now for privacy, right?
So I think it's critical.
I think we're going to hear more from you.
I think, you know, we're going to get you liaising with one another
outside of here to see what business you can do,
how you can strengthen one another's offerings,
how you can get louder.
And no, it's an absolute pleasure hosting you all here today.
And for anybody that's going to listen to this later,
thank you.
And onwards and upwards,
and we will speak to you all soon.
And how do we always finish?
Mugga, mugga, mugga.
Oi, oi, oi.
Oi, oi, oi.
Over and out, everybody.
Mugga, mugga, mugga, oi, oi, oi. Thank you. we always finish mugger mugger mugger oy oy oy now everybody
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