Music. Money. MarketZ.🌊📈| WaveWarZ Vibe Sesh 🌊🔱🌊

Recorded: Jan. 8, 2026 Duration: 1:33:31
Space Recording

Short Summary

Crypto enthusiasts are buzzing about the innovative intersection of music and trading, with a new project launch aimed at creating engaging trading rooms. The successful title 'Make Money Trading Music' has sparked interest, indicating a growing trend in the space, while strategic partnerships and fundraising efforts are set to enhance community engagement and project visibility.

Full Transcription

Thank you. What up, Candy Cooks?
In the building.
I even go cap, yo.
And now when I see you, I keep thinking of
of Candy Jones.
It's time for an upgrade.
Oh my god, bro god that shit was absolutely
what's up what's up yo i keep i keep like i was saying i don't know if you heard me but
i don't know now when i see you i keep thinking of uh the canon jones animation
where you were shooting some kind of alien thing and then you were like it's time for an upgrade
that was pretty awesome it was really good i actually i gotta go back and watch it again
because it was really good it was just just so, it was so, like,
it was so random
and unexpected that it became
just absolutely hilarious. Like, everything
else was funny, but I
think the ending, like,
like, with you shooting this random
alien, like, it was like
everything had a plot, you know what I'm saying?
And then right then, not only did
the plot shift,
but you pulled out this whole
It's time for an upgrade.
That's how it ended.
I was so epic, bro.
Good God, yo.
It was epic. It was really good.
I love it. I like my suit.
I was like, wow.
That's crazy. I was like, that thing is cool.
I want one of those at home.
Basically.
Basically, yo.
I was like, yo.
Shout out to Kenny, yo.
You really cooked on that one, man.
Shout out to Louie, bro.
The data's coming in, Louie.
The data is coming in.
It looks like the best title right now when it comes to the night sessions sessions is that make make money trading music title that one uh
not only did it pull in some people like during the space but it also pulled in a lot of rewatches
like replays so that's how i know that that's the one you know what i'm saying like it pulled in uh
i think in the space we had like 20 something people or 30. And then the rewatches, it went up to like 70 or 80 at this point.
So, yeah, bro.
That's 100% the move.
It just won't let me change the title right now.
So, I don't know.
I don't know what the heck is going on.
But, yeah, that's what we're going to do going forward.
You know, once the space starts tonight, I'll change it to that title.
And then, yeah, bro.
I'm going to see what I can do about my bio and the Wave Wars bio as well.
That way we get that extra boost.
What's up?
Trick day, help me out in the building.
Why don't you, if you can, just delete this one, the one you have, and just make a new one.
That's what I'm thinking, bro. Because, like, it don't look, if you can, just delete this one, the one you have, and just make a new one? That's what I'm thinking, bro.
Because, like, it don't look like it's...
Because you might have, like, more reminders set on the other one compared to this one, you know?
Nah, you saw something right now.
Oh, wait, I can't edit a space, create a space while we're in a space.
That's the only thing.
The life of a space host.
But what's good?
What's good, Tricky, bro?
Honestly, why do we pay for this platform, man?
Elon needs to fix some shit.
This thing sucks.
Compared to other platforms.
Bro, I cannot make a space while I'm in the space, bro.
What if somebody's like, hey, bro, this space is going to change your life if you make it right now.
You telling me I can't do that shit, bro?
Like, damn.
But, uh, all good, bro.
Shouts to IG, Tricky Buddha.
It's Tricky Buddha from DeFi Space Donkeys.
What's up, fam?
We got pop in, see what's going on, share the space out.
I've been making lots of animations and stuff.
I just made one.
I put it on TikTok, and I used the Wave Wars theme song,
and I made another one with just a little techno
because it's only six seconds long,
so the beat drop is hard to time up perfectly,
but hopefully I'll be able to make longer animations soon,
and then I'll mess with it more.
All my subs and holders send me an image to animate if you got any traits or any anything you wanted me to include Just let me know. But yeah, check out my pin posts
I've got a bunch of animations there and I'm just I'm putting more underneath that to make like a nice like a nice long thread
With all the things I've been making recently
It's been cool. What up, Saul?
I just finished all.
Tricky cooker in the building.
Good to see you.
Hurricane and candy.
What up, Louie?
Good to see you, my G, Tricky, man.
Long time no Cs in the Cs.
You know what I'm saying?
Out here on the Cs, if you know what I mean.
But, yo, yeah, man. Shout out to you on the C's. You know what I'm saying? Out here on the C's, if you know what I mean. But, yo, yeah, man.
Shout out to you on the animation front.
I need to check out what you're talking about.
You feel me?
So you can drop that somewhere.
Let me know.
And then shout out to my G Zaw.
Super Zaw.
Wow, what the heck, bro?
How did you fall off the stage?
What's up, Tricky?
All right.
Instantly fell off.
So I put up top.
Those are four of them that are with my logo.
And then I'm putting like a series of more underneath it.
But just check out the ones with my logo.
Those are just four of like 50 that I made.
Stay less.
Get it, man.
Good stuff, bro.
Why do you innovate now, as always?
There's one in the comments that's with me and my wife on the back of a cruise ship.
If you haven't seen that one, you should definitely go check it out.
Say what, yo.
I'm over here trying to look and be in the space, man.
Let's say what's up to Zal live from India.
My G is bare-faced.
My G, bro, he sent us a message, bro.
Yesterday, the group, he was like,
he was like, yo, you know, haircut and all this stuff,
beer cutting, all this stuff.
And I was like, bro, who is this?
Some dog wave wars millionaire.
Some dog wave wars millionaire in his home, bro.
I have to call this man Zawul.
This is not Zaw, bro.
This is Zawul, bro. Yeah, he call this man Zaul. This is not Zaul, bro. This is Zaul.
Yeah, he looks like a little baby.
Now I feel really old.
I was baby this whole time.
What's up, guys?
I'm feeling really light.
I'm feeling really good.
I'm definitely supposed to pick tomorrow.
I didn't actually get too many today, or I don't have any on my phone.
We've got to get them all. We vibing. We had the first first wedding event today. Vibing and thriving in India. Got some nice you know heat going on. It's like 75
out here. Yeah dude lots of noise, lots of honking. Vibes are high. We're feeling good I got vibes on it and I'm blowing and do it
yo it's all cool and bro in India dog but I feel it made that's it sound by AF
dog you like create a remix on that now, bro. Does your face and head feel like five pounds lighter?
Because I know...
Whenever you take off that much hair off your face or something,
do you feel super, super light now?
Oh, that's what he...
Go ahead, Zolt.
Yeah, 100%.
I feel amazing. There was just so much
weight and there's so much hair everywhere
for the last two years, so
I'm feeling really good. I'm honestly...
The next haircut's gonna be all a bit
off, I think, so I'm ready.
What the...
Yeah, no, don't go bald. Please don't go bald.
This guy gonna go from Zol to
Right? Zalinski.
That's a Russian mob boss.
either way, man.
That's why I see Zol. I ain't cut my hair.
Or you go by Brazilian Zalinho.
Zalinho. Zalinho.
There we go.
I mean, I don't know.
Bald's off.
Bald's off.
Yeah, I don't think bald.
That's bald on the head.
I think that's a different type of bald than the Brazilians would be.
Like, I would say I would think of Russian for, like, a bald head more.
I think of bald, like, bikini, and would think of russian for like a bald head more i think a bald like bikini and i think of brazil bald bikini that sounds nice but uh
let me uh shout out my gc strange in this thing yo we heard that crypto legend yesterday
strange got some bangers bro i'm like bro how's he coming up with these hoes,
bro? But either way, man, Fias trading says yesterday, we experimented with titles. Actually,
I'm glad you're here, Tricky. You can probably, you know what I'm saying, let us know what's
going down with this. So we essentially created a nightly trading room where we just do trading
and music. Like we got to open and bell and
everything like boom once it was it hits you know 8 35 p.m est boom we trade you know i'm saying
trading and the music bumping and we've had like some new folks come through like some some crypto
folks heads come through and be like yo it's a cool ass concept they be following us and shit
and we've been kind of like debating on the
title because the goal is to like get this room popping you know what i'm saying like every night
like fire ass music trading on the charts make crypto fun again you know what i'm saying type
energy because i think you know after the the nfts died and the meme coins died everyone's looking
for the next next heat bro next fucking
fun good ass time you know what i'm saying so we decided not even decided we just realized that we
we had that bro like all we got to do is open it up and get it popping and get it out to more people
so like now we have the we've been experimenting with different titles yesterday you know we tried the most lit trading room on x
you know and uh it got you know some people coming in but not as many rewatches and what
we found to be like the best title so far was make money trading on music uh live buys and
sells etc etc and like that was a the title that brought in the most rewatches. Not only did
people watch in the space, but we also got a lot of rewatches from people just seeing, I guess,
on the timeline or whatever. So we debating and figuring out the best title to use. And I just
want to ask your opinion on like the idea of the room, you know, the idea that we started at 8.35 p.m. EST every day.
That's when the first trades start.
What I've noticed is that first battle will be, you know,
is usually just a few of us in there, but people will come in as that first battle is happening.
And then by the second battle, we got, you know, the last couple of days,
our highest volume battle has kind of hovered between the second and third battle.
I think they're tied right now for, you know, days that the second battle was the highest volume and days that the third battle was the highest volume.
If I'm not mistaken, the third might be ahead by one.
So, yeah, one of those is usually the highest volume when it gets to.
But I just want to know your opinions, bro.
Should we make it 10 minutes before we start the trading in the beginning instead of five minutes?
You know, all these things, bro.
Essentially, we're creating a new concept that I've never seen anywhere.
So, yeah, we just got to get it right and get it popping.
get it right and get it popping. What's your thoughts, man?
What's your thoughts, man?
I'm talking to Tricky, by the way. I don't know if you still hear. That's a real question.
Oh, my bad. Say that again. I heard some clanking because I was loading the dishwasher.
What was the question?
always multitasking man always all right that's the best bet so uh like i was saying we doing a
Always multitasking, man.
daily like nightly actually not daily nightly trading room where we essentially open it up to
everybody and just like it's only focused on the trading aspect of wave wars the trading and the
music you know i'm saying so like if anybody wants to hear the music from the wave wars catalog
they come at the night spaces.
Also, if they want to trade all the music and get the Wave Wars experience, we're doing them every day now, now that we have our new Quick Battles feature.
So we've been testing out different space titles. We've been testing out different, you know, mechanisms and stuff like that.
Like if you check the pinposts up top, you know, that's one of the recaps
of the ones that we did yesterday.
And, you know, we essentially have this title.
The title that seems to have worked the best so far was Make Money Trading Music
and then Live Buys and Sells, 5K Target, 37 minutes but uh we just changed yesterday to uh the most lit trading room on x
you know you should say have having fun trading with music you know that way you're not any
promise of profit or expected returns because that can kind of get you registered as a security so
like just say fun with trading music or like trading music with like i know you know
what i mean keep it loose louis said thumbs down i feel i feel what you say profit though that's
when you got an expectation of uh returns and then that's that's that's when the sec will come
after you if you become too big exactly that's the only thing i was thinking about it's called
the howie test exactly that's what i was thinking about because i was like
hmm like it there is a gray area there it's not i wouldn't say we're like guaranteeing profits
it's more like you can maybe if we say you can make money you're like possible money i don't
know that's weird it's like a question like how or something what What do you mean? Like how can you make, you know, just like a.
Instead of saying, hey, we're guaranteeing you, we're asking the question like how, like, you know, like just a broad term.
Or make money trading on music, question mark.
Yeah, you know, just we're not guaranteeing nobody.
We're just saying that there's a possibility if you, you know,
I don't know the laws though, so Tricky might know.
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, Google the
Howey test. That's the main thing that the SEC
uses in order to determine if someone's
a security or not.
So if you have any expectation of profit
or you say like invest
or there's just certain keywords
that can get you to qualify as an asset.
So as long as you avoid that or like put a question mark, make it a good question,
then they kind of can work your way around that without being obviously in conflict with the law.
Totally, totally agree, bro. That's absolute sauce.
And we was also talking about Ponzi schemes yesterday.
And a key thing about them is that uh they what's it called uh
it's like a non-existent venture you know what i'm saying like where where what's it called
investors are paying early investors or whatever and yeah it's a ponzi ponzi was a was the guy that
made the first like ponzi scheme that got prosecuted and basically it's he was saying
you can get these crazy returns if you put your money in here but it was completely like fudged books
but the greedy people just kept on putting more and more and more in there so it took a long time
to all collapse exactly that was a crazy story if you and there's also uh I don't I forgot the guy
who does these documentaries but he dropped one he dropped one
on the ponzi guy uh y'all know the the youtube guy what's his name bro i wish i remember but
it starts with an m it starts with an m but he does these great documentaries where like on these
like business stories etc etc and like uh yeah yo he talked about the whole ponzi story and it was
it was crazy bro but yeah that's the thing about Ponzi schemes.
It's the promise of high returns.
It's like, yo, you put your money in, you're guaranteed to get, you know, this and this return.
Which is why, you know, Tai Lopez got in trouble recently because he was doing that same kind of thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, and it's not even the promise of high returns It's the fact that the the he didn't have the money
He said he did and he was only making cash payments out because people were coming in so fast
And as long as you got more people coming in than going out
It'll it'll float for a little bit until someone actually like goes through the books, you know, but they had their fraudulent
irs reporting security reportings everything was just all made up
And and the graph was very steady looking.
Fags, bro. Yeah. That's why, that's why I'm like, yo,
we got to stay away from all of them type of territories. Cause like,
essentially what we, the environment we want to create is just like,
yo, a fun place to trade and listen to music. Like just trade in a fun way.
You know what I'm saying? Instead of, you know, cause like I was saying, It's like, yo, a fun place to trade and listen to music. Like, just trade in a fun way.
You know what I'm saying?
Instead of, you know, because like I was saying, I was in all of these other trading rooms.
And, you know, that shit was, all right.
I was in one earlier today, actually.
And, you know, the vibe is just so, I don't know.
Some people might like it. But, like, they just in there like, okay, we got a nice setup here.
All right.
It's looking like my metrics are being reached.
Yo, but the question is, did they make money?
That's the question, though.
That's the question, though.
But it's like, I feel that, but I feel like we have an opportunity to create a way that people can make money and still have fun.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's still, like, make trading fun again type shit.
Because, like, that's why people, like I was saying yesterday, that's why people love NFTs.
That's why people love meme coins.
Because it was trading, but it was fun.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it had these fun aspects to it.
Which I think.
So, Candy yesterday, or, or like a couple days ago mentioned
she was talking about like you know like you know meeting for like you know how how can we
like assess um people's wave wars people personality i think one of because you know
and then yes we kept kind of like going abroad on it like are you know uh definitely like you know
the the people that attract wave wars are definitely you know traders gamblers right and you know people who investors
right even scammers right you know and we started talking about like all right and then
kind of like just right now we're talking about it one of the things that wave wars
personality people do have I think it is a high risk personality because it is technically a high risk in ways that you're putting your money in and not really getting maybe a decent ROI on it, depending on your structure of it, right?
Right, yo.
I think that a lot of things, a lot of creations stem from who created them.
And I'm like, I'm thinking about myself as a person.
Like, and I'm very, I'm not, what's the word?
I like to take risks.
I do take risks.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I definitely, I'm definitely.
And it's what I'm like, by the way.
So like, it's matching the personality.
Exactly, bro.
Like, I'm definitely in this life We either reaching the top
Or we gonna be destitute
There ain't no other in-betweens
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't gonna be just coasting in the middle
Living some quiet life
Of desperation
I'm going for it all, bro
We either win it all
Or we ain't winning shit
And I'm okay with either outcome But of course I'd rather win it all Nah, we're either win it all or we ain't winning shit and with and i'm okay with either
either outcome you feel me but of course i'd rather win it all we're gonna win it all bro
you feel me like there is like you know there is no there is that's why i think like the high risk
is like because there is no other way like we're not like there is no option it's a one-way route
bro exactly bro exactly so yeah i think that think that's where that kind of stands from.
And then also the fact that.
Yo, are we delusional, bro?
No. I mean, even if we are, great. I'd rather be delusional than fucking pessimistic.
That sounds like a terrible existence. You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'd rather be like, yo, tomorrow's a day or today's a day, bro.
Like, every day I'm like, yo, this trading space is going to blow up.
Like, that's how I felt yesterday.
I was like, bro, today, yo, we about to hit a major inflection point, bro.
Like, shit about to go crazy, bro.
The right motherfuckers are going to find us.
That's how I think every day.
I want to hear from Chucky.
Chucky, what do you think, bro?
Sorry, I was running around. I got a dead zone over here at my house i gotta get back to
the other side i love how we're here in the asmr but yeah i think um i like the idea of
uh make you know the more you can say it's a game right uh the better off you are you know
just because you want people to have low expectations
uh and then you know enjoy the music and then if something pops off i got a bonus then great but
it's no way we're talking about we're talking about the high risk the high risk personality
right about like the high risk uh perception well i mean everything is high risk and there's a lot
of freaking dgen gamblers so like i mean you could market to like gambling rooms to like people who are just like into to like the newest thing because like slot machines and everything in a casino is just so rigged against you.
So might as well enjoy the process by listening to some music and and picking, you know, swaying the vote, picking who's your favorite, you know.
But yeah, I mean, there's there's definitely like a solid group of high risk investors.
Do you think it's a good way to live or no?
Sorry, what was that?
Do you think it's a good way to live or no?
I mean, it's stressful as fuck if you're not good at it.
And if you don't have a lot of money and you can't like diversify within your bets, then you are just going to generally lose money on average.
within your bets, then you are just going to generally lose money on average.
The more risky the thing is you're getting into, the more you have to diversify and go
into multiple investment opportunities.
If it's stable, you can do less opportunities.
But the more risk, the more you need to actually diversify, plus that's usually for younger
people further away from retirement that have portions weighted on risky stuff.
And also, it's like when you have all this extra capital, money is one of those things that it needs to do something.
You can't like if it's just sitting there, it's going to decay.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's going to lose value over time.
So like I'm getting six percent on my cash.
We're on what on what vehicle uh on coinbase
staking and lending protocols there you go you have to put your money to work bro like there's
no there's no if ands or buts about it so it's like there's different ways to do it just like
tricky said like the smartest way to do it in my opinion like especially when i have a lot of money
which is going to be very soon.
What I'm going to do is essentially, like Shuggy said, have, you know, a lot of it in some kind of, you know, account just like that, where you're getting like a steady percentage or whatever on your money.
You just keep it in there, park it in there and let it, you know, accrue value for you.
But I'm definitely going to have a portion of it for high risk shit. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm have a portion of it set aside 10%, maybe 15 for just like, like, yo,
this is a crazy opportunity. We'll see what goes down type shit. You know what I mean? Or even,
even for stuff like waivers, like if I just want to have fun and I understand music and I understand
markets and I think I can make some wins, like I'm going to, that's where I would be. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of stuff I'd make is the shit I would
love to use, whether it's in the past me or the future me, you know what I'm saying? So like a
lot of, a lot of like who we're going for is like, like me and Louie, bro, are very great archetypes
for who would enjoy this product, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I've been talking to Louie a lot, bro.
I've been like, yo, yeah, bro, this shit is fire, man.
Because, like, I fucking love music, bro.
And I consider myself a music connoisseur.
Like, I have very good taste.
And I know when some shit is some heat, bro, and I know when it's not, you know?
So, like, I can use that to my advantage now. Whereas before, that's not
a thing that you could ever use to want the
advantage besides being a DJ
or something like that or playing music for people.
But you could
go long on the
music companies that are playing
your hits that you love the most and
short the stocks that aren't putting out good
music that you like.
Technically, you could do it. That's all that's all. The only thing is like if you dig deep all the three big three record labels they're actually a monopoly but they they simply uh act
like they're quote-unquote in competition but they're not they're all the same company you
know what I'm saying like they just want to avoid the anti-monopolistic laws or whatever
Yeah, every industry does that to a certain extent where they're all like, you know
If we all interpret this law this way, well, we'll either get away with it
Or we'll all get busted at the same time and they can't just like shut all of us down the whole industry would crash
So it's power in numbers
for sure bro absolutely crazy world we live in bro once you dig deep in this shit bro you'll be
like damn i got a finance degree because i was like this shit is bullshit it doesn't make any
fucking sense please explain how this is sustainable and i got a finance degree and i was
like oh yeah it's not that makes sense no exactly bro like essentially things are just rigged well and it makes sense like like i was
saying yesterday like there's no there's no greater truth fuck the laws fuck all these other
things there's no greater truth than just raw human nature you know what i'm saying like the
raw universe the way the universe works, human nature type shit.
That's the only shit I trust.
You can bet on that.
Can you feel me, bro?
And that tells me that most folks, when given a position of power, like the people printing the money, bro, they're going to use that shit for their advantage, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, obviously.
But, yeah. Once you start thinking like saying? Like, obviously. But yeah, once you
start thinking like that, you can move in a different way. Because I feel like if you're
always thinking like, things should be this way. Things should be that way. I was talking to my
sister about this the other day. You know, she was kind of, you know, talking about a utopistic
society and shit. And I was like, yo, like, I feel you, you know, it would be great. Don't get me
wrong. But you just got to look at shit the way it is, bro. Like the way it simply just is. And
like, move in that. Because then you can move from a far more informed place, rather than I wish it
was this way. And I'm gonna move like I wish it was. And then get fucked. You know what I'm saying?
Like, don't do that.
You feel me?
But, yeah, that's a whole other conversation.
Shout out to my G, Kit Venom, in the building, bro.
Yo, we working on that song, bro.
I was just talking to the engineer earlier today.
So, let me know if you got the stems.
You know, I'm going to send it to him.
So, yeah, even like, yo, this how you record, bro.
You got to go over here, blah, blah. I'm like, god it to him. So, yeah, even like, yo, this how you record, bro. You got to go over here, blah, blah.
I'm like, god damn, bro.
Okay, man.
Man's been putting me on some sauce.
So, yeah, bro, we cooking on that hoe.
Definitely feel free to come if you want to come up.
But, yeah, bro, like I was saying, that's why I've been enjoying talking to Louie lately.
Because, like, putting our heads together, we're going to find the 10,000 others of us's that's out there in the world, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, that's how we get shit popping, bro.
That's how we get shit popping.
So, yeah, I'm hype, bro, for everything that's cooking up.
I like the new title idea.
Well, I had the question mark so that the laws aren't like, yo, what the heck are they doing here?
What's going on here, buddies?
But also, something I noticed that people are doing with spaces, you can tell me if I'm wrong or right, Tricky.
But it seems like folks are like botting spaces so that they end up higher on the – what's it called?
On the – you know what I'm saying?
The top thing where it shows you the on spaces.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, it's not expensive to get like a couple
hundred uh bots for 15 minutes at a time so they'll start off of space with like 3 000 bots
and it gets it to the top of the algorithm and they only pay for it for like 15 minutes or maybe
an hour max um but it's so big that it keeps on drawing more people in because it's like people
like why is this fucking space so big how much would that be
you look at those people in the crowd they're fucking it's just like generic like english word
and the account's not filled out all the way and they're following a bunch more people than they
have followers they don't even have 200 followers usually you know i mean it's crazy it's obviously
a bot like just you know it reminds me when you go around when you go like disney world and it's
like a japanese girl and she's got a random English word on her shirt
It's like she doesn't even know what that fucking word is. You just
That was a crazy
Oddly specific
Well, I live I live in Orlando so I see that like well way often way more often than you think
But you know there's guys with that look like a Japanese character on their leg.
It's like, that says noodles, bro.
Ah, noodles.
I was going to say, yo, that would be like, I mean, I don't think it's a good idea.
I mean, maybe in ways we can discuss it.
But how would a service like that cost for like 15 minutes?
If anybody knows.
The number changes, but it's only a couple bucks.
It's really not a lot.
It's really easy.
So like five bucks?
you could,
I know people who have both spent like 200 bucks
and not have like their whole room
bought at the entire fucking time.
And it's like,
you could tell,
this person does not have 3,000 people online
in their room right now.
It's just not how it is.
you could,
you could easily see the difference
between a real account
and like a fake account. Fake account has a perfectly spelled random english word all of us have something
that's not normally spelled like you know what i mean so it seems to be super obvious um what's
the name of the website i forgot the name of the website but here hold on i'll be right back
wait i have i have my shit normally spelled. What do you mean? Well, I mean, yeah, kind of.
Most people don't spell Louie, just L-U-I, right?
Oh, you're talking about my name?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, my name, yeah.
Look at all our names. Zal's the only one with even close to a real name, and it's better called Zal still.
And then most people will see Z-A-A-L and assume it's not even a name. So, you know, you never know. I'm wondering why he got the power symbol.
Hey, but yo, as far as what Louis said, I'm not ever going to bot, but I just think it's like a curious thing.
And like I was I was looking into Twitch. I don't know if y'all know how Twitch works, but they're essentially on the same type of algorithm as Spaces.
Whereas whoever has the biggest rooms is placed at the top of Twitch.
So obviously, a lot of the top Twitchers or whatever be botting or have their users bot their streams so that they end up more near the top, etc., etc.
And if you do a video live at the same time, that also pushes you to the top etc etc and if you do a video live at the same time that also pushes you to the top
um so entry level 3 cents to 17 cents per listing three dollars for 100 to 200 listeners um
four uh there's one that's four dollars for 200 listeners three dollars for 100 yeah so they're
all pretty much the same thing like what is it is it? Four cents to $1.20 per thousand if you want to do the high-end ones.
But that's just crazy how easy and cheap it really is to lie to everybody on the platform.
And that's one thing.
I think that's the real key, bro, I think is authenticity, bro, because it's really lacking these days, you know, on the internet and stuff.
And although, you know, if y'all know about Machiavelli,
I don't know if y'all ever heard of this guy, the book The Prince.
And yeah, I'm sure Tricky's heard of him.
But essentially, his kind of philosophy is like,
gain power by any means or whatever.
And he's like, yo, like a lot of people that get to the quote
unquote top do it by nefarious means and such but uh i don't know bro that philosophy doesn't sit
with me bro like yeah it doesn't sit with anyone like really you have to like get stomped on so
much that you just give up and join them instead of beating them but like absolutely i think it takes a lot of strength to just be you and not fall into those weird fucking games and
stuff and a lot of people are super backstabby like every one of my friends that i've ever talked
to who's gone into major like industries and jobs and stuff they have like it's a suit it's like a
doggy dog mentality people are always throwing random people under the bus just like skirting like the responsibility talking shit i mean it's wild how fucking crazy like they people actually
get i mean even at like play like one of the more mainstream like corporations like my wife went to
kpmg for example it's like one of the top four accounting firms in the country well in the world
and dude you would think they'd be more professional but like they're so fucking
catty in the back end like it's just it's absolutely ridiculous
nah you're speaking on you're speaking straight facts bro like and and what he calls those the
in these in these in this book is like the court or whatever like he kind of he kind of compared
it to like uh like the way old kings used to live like they had there's the king and then there's his quote
unquote courts which is all the people around the king like the people the person that washed his
feet the chef the the prince the you know i'm saying queen just all these people with their
own other motives and stuff like that etc etc and it he was essentially explaining like how he thinks
in his perspective the the best you know teams and leaders or whatever operated and stuff.
And I was like, I thought it was interesting.
But I think what he misses out on, in my opinion, when it comes to Machiavelli, is, like, this kind of, like, power at all costs mentality has costs.
You know what I mean? Cause like, if you're doing
like a lot of these moves and stuff that he's saying, it's like, there's, there's always
repercussions, bro. And like a lot of the, a lot of the guys he was talking about, yeah, they
gain power, but like how fast do they lose it? You know what I mean? Especially after, you know,
once you do people dirty, bro, I think there's's there's has to be some kind of karmic
karmic thing to that you know what i'm saying i don't think the universe will allow people to just like do folks dirty and just be cool for the rest of their life you know what i'm saying
i wish that were true you know but like politics kind of proves otherwise you know but like they're
not they're not good bro like they might look good they might have money
and all of these things but like deep down within like are they at peace bro i highly doubt it
you know what i'm saying they probably always looking over their shoulders and shit you know
what i'm saying in my in my like in my thought on that like because obviously we haven't lived
like forever i mean you know i'm still not super old So we don't know like but you know, that's always a question that I always think about like but I think like, you know
Like the way you operate, you know, if you operate it for years, you're gonna be programmed like that
So if you're operating out of like bad intentions, if you're operating out of like bad energy
negative energy, you're technically reinforcing your body to really,
you know, be in that adaptive environment.
So, I mean, you're going to like naturally just, you know, want to be in that environment
every single time you reinforce it because you're just reprogramming your bio.
That's how it works.
That's why initially we need to start, you know,
in order for us to, you know, for us to really change the world, you know, we change the world
literally by ourselves. We, you know, we start with ourselves by, you know, starting, you know,
starting today, you know, trying with that one simple thought, like, you know, being, you know,
a positive affirmation, a positive thought, you know, whether it could be like a feeling of
gratefulness like right
I'm being just being thankful for something right you start like that and of course if you don't live in that environment
It's gonna be hard if you don't if you haven't lived like that for like quite some time
It's gonna be hard because like I think that's part of like the awakening is and it's understanding
Right what we've been programmed to like I, I mean, to, like, really to feel that,
to program, to not understand how, maybe because, you know, maybe as we mature, you know, maybe our
parents weren't raised like that either because, you know, my parents never really taught me
really fully to, like, very spiritually to fully understand how, you know but like little by little I you know
you you you understand like okay like love is what makes me feel good like you know being around
these people they treat me in a good way you know and you want to be around people like that but if
you're raised if you're programmed to like maybe you have a family that's negative you don't you
don't really understand you can't really fully see that so we're programming
ourselves to like starting today just even if it's hard and then you know tomorrow it'll be
slightly easier you know if and if you're new at this it might not be super easy but just know that
over time it does get easier and over time you start to really build a foundation like like the
manifestation i think is super huge when you start to really build a foundation like like the manifestation i think is super huge when you
start to really build a foundation and yeah it might not take like a day like you know it i think
it'll take a couple years because once you once you feel full yourself you can fool other people's
cups and when you feel you feel other people's cups you start to like you know build your tribe
you start to like build around the people that are actually
wanting to build with good intention and then once you know once that happens once you start
to fill that one cup and then that one cup is filled and then you know the other you know like
more cups start to get more filled around you and you and you guys been building together as an
ecosystem growing together for quite some years now that's the the manifestation
that comes with what and and if you're operating the other way you're going to be building with
scammers you're going to be building with bad people you're going to be building you know so
you you want to make sure and and eventually that road eventually right yeah while temporarily it
might it might seem all good and happy and And yeah, you might even be a billionaire, a millionaire for the moment of saying.
But spiritually within, you know, we never understand everybody's like, you know, I mean, we don't know fully.
Everybody's like full psychology, what they think.
But, you know, from experience, from a life experience, good intentions and bad intentions that those frequency lead to feelings within and without and you know uh some people are within
and some people are exterior you know so that's why you know manifestation yeah and and reprogramming
is just something you know make good habits and then you can reprogram that shit that's why my
intro just is that that's what it's about, resetting with positivity before I go forward.
And once you have that set of mind in place,
you attract your vibe, which is just like that.
And so you make your vibe similar to the people
you want to surround yourself with.
And if you surround yourself with good people,
then they'll do good things for you as well.
And it definitely attracts the vibe.
That's the main thing.
But also just from statistics, it's like a numbers game.
It's like that guy who goes to the bar.
Right there was a big thing.
He said he would do some good things for you as well, meaning that you've already operated and you've already done good things for people that people can see that and feel that.
They want to naturally, with love, out of their heart, want to reciprocate that love because it's just a, you know, Bob's attractive tribe.
And they are attracted to it because they understand that vibe too.
They feel it.
So that's how you go with it.
But either way, also, it's like a numbers game.
Like that guy who goes into a bar and asks every chick if they want to have sex.
You know what I mean?
It's like eventually someone will say yes.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of people who just play life like that.
It's all just a numbers game.
And similar with your good vibe or negative vibe, if you go around being a dick to everyone eventually someone's going to be a dick
right back and set you straight if that's not going to be a fun day so you might as well go
with the positive view and just focus on gratitude and building visualize the goal man and stay
positive 10 000 yo glad glad i'm in this room with y'all, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad this is the environment we've cultivated.
You feel me? So, yeah, bro. I agree with all the messages here.
And even like Louis was saying, it might take a little longer or whatever.
But in the long run, it's just going to be
botched. You know what I'm saying? And even during the thing. That's another thing, bro.
It's like a lot of people that we want to rush stuff don't enjoy the process.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't enjoy whatever they doing.
So they just like working, doing to get the outcome.
The outcome is all they doing the thing for.
So like, I think that's something crucial to look into at like in all of our lives.
Like, do we actually enjoy doing whatever it is
that we doing because like if you do it don't really feel like like it's taking a long time
or you know all these things you're not watching the clock you know what i'm saying it's more like
it's way more sustainable to do something that you feel like you that you like the process when
you don't like the process it's just you're just trying to get to the end and you end up making
mistakes and you're not attracting the right you know the right environment with the right the future opportunities that you really want
i agree bro that's why that's why you know i'm very skeptical of all the people that's like
yo grind you know i'm saying you know push hard blah blah you know because i'm like
why the fuck you making this shit sound like it sucks? You know what I'm saying?
What do you mean?
Of course, even when I think about going to the gym, right?
Because most people would be like, damn, that shit hurts.
You know what I'm saying?
But what I realize is it really mainly only hurts when you're changing the habit.
When you never go to the gym and then you start going to the gym, then it's like, holy fuck.
Damn, bro.
This shit is garbage.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just that first 20 days.
The first three weeks is a bitch.
But anything's like that.
The first three weeks of changing up anything is hard.
But after that, it just gets exponentially easier.
Exactly, bro.
And that's exactly how my mentality when I was thinking about you in this trading room that we have, you know, at nights.
Because I was like, damn, bro.
I ain't going to cap, bro.
Before we first launched it, bro, I was kind of like, damn, bro.
I'm kind of nervous to do this shit.
Because it's like, well, the first few might not, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, we just get it started, bro.
Like, we got to get the engine started first and all of that.
And I was like, this is going to be, I was prepared for it to not be as, you know, like
easy, you know, or like a super fast process or whatever.
And like, you know, finally doing it, bro.
And like, just like what Triggy said, like, first 20 days might be hard or whatever, but what really
keeps me going is that, like, once it
gets lit, bro, like, really
lit, like, this shit is gonna, I'm gonna look
forward to this shit like a motherfucker, like,
every day, you know what I'm saying, cause, like, it's gonna be
extremely fun, like,
and also, even now, like, I already
look forward to it now, so it's, like,
it's, like, as it grows and as
it gets more lit, it's, like, as it grows and as it gets more lit,
it's like, damn, this is only going to get more fun. You feel me? So like, especially like getting
to discover all the music, you know, seeing the crazy shit happen on the charts and shit. Like,
I used to dream about this shit, bro. I used to go to sleep and see this in my mind's eye,
like, but we're doing it now. And like, I had to remind myself of that. I was like,
damn, bro, literally a year ago, this was all just a dream. And you know, like, like but we're doing it now and like i had to remind myself of that i was like damn bro literally
a year ago this was all just a dream and you know like dang i wish you know just even the technology
existed you know what i'm saying and now it exists bro and it's here and it's happening
and i think that's something that we sometimes forget like we forget like what the us from like
a year ago was dreaming about.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and then we, and then we realized we already live in that, you know, what, what
the us from a year ago was dreaming about.
And because now, you know, in this present state, now the current us has new dreams.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like the old me wasn't even thinking about, you know, the dreams that I'm talking
about right now. Like, but like, y'all thinking about, you know, the dreams that I'm talking about right now.
Like, but, like, y'all see what I'm trying to say?
Like, it just makes you go.
It's, like, everything just evolves and kind of shifts a little bit as you go through it.
And as long as you take the path that's, like, sustainable and right for you, then you're good.
But it's hard to tell which one of those paths is right, you know, especially until you've like really gone through a couple such like situations.
You know what I mean? Like, I am so busy trying to do all kinds of random shit that it's it definitely keeps me more distracted and makes it harder to dial in some of those those other things that I probably should focus more on.
But but, yeah, you got to do the best with what you got. Right.
I'm just here one step at a time, man.
If I can get out of bed, that's a great start.
Now we go to the next thing.
That's the beauty of life, bro.
And according to the double slit experiment, if y'all don't know about it, like what Tricky explained is exactly what it also explains.
And essentially what it is is that everything that hasn't happened yet has an infinite probabilities of what the next second of life could be.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's literally an infinite amount of probabilities.
And we don't know what's going to happen, a.k.a. we don't know what's quote unquote right until it happens.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's the idea of the double slit experiment because everything is just a probability until the event happens and then it collapses into one reality.
You know what I'm saying?
So the reason that's so beautiful is that literally every new moment can be created.
You know what I'm saying?
From the infinite probability of possible moments that could happen.
And it's not dependent on who we were before or our past circumstances.
You know what I'm saying? And that's where people get what's called quantum leaps.
I've been studying that a lot because like deep down, I feel the sense that like like wave wars is one of those things that can go from like zero to 100
extremely quickly like once once once it catches on once it catches fire etc etc etc it's gonna go
up and it's gonna go up fast because as every as every new like trader comes on as every new person
every new artist comes on etc etc it only influences two more and then two more on top of the two, and then it gets faster and faster and faster infinite probabilities of things that can happen.
It tells me, like what that principle tells me is that every moment is a new moment.
It's not necessarily dependent on the past.
Dependent on the frequency we come in into the next new moment with, of the infinite possibilities that could happen with that next moment,
like we can decide what that outcome is going to be.
You know what I'm saying?
Does anybody get what I'm trying to say?
Yeah, facts.
And in statistics, you have to make a note of it too, right?
So like when you do a regression analysis to see like what factors have an impact on whatever, like let's say it's stock prices, right?
And you're thinking of all the factors.
But past results, past statistics are not indicative of future results.
Like when it comes to it, anything could still fucking happen.
Like even no matter how much data you have.
You know, like you can make your equation perfectly predict the future based off of all the static data that you have.
But it's not going to actually go forward in time
because it's just not possible.
I mean, you can get kind of a best guess,
but that's about it.
Exactly, bro, exactly.
And that's why even in the post I had the other day
about the lesson I was learning
from building wave wars and stuff
was that exactly what Tricky said.
Like, there's no predictions, there's no there's no predictions
there's no blah blah better than like living in the moment and maximizing the present moment like
like i was saying with that same that quantum principle i was telling y'all about it's like
what is now what is in the now and like what like who am i how am i showing up into this now moment you know what i'm saying
that's more important than whoever you were in the past whoever whatever you did in the past
etc etc like whatever happened in the past what's more important is who are you showing up as in this
now present moment bro and like once you like look at the universe like that bro and notice
that you can literally like change and morph things like like instantly like this whole idea
of time bro even in itself is is actually kind of an illusion you know because really really if you
really really really think about it bro all that exists is now there really isn't
anything else bro everything else either already happened or hasn't happened yet the only thing is
the only thing that is actually real it's like literally this exact moment nothing else so it's
like that the rest of the time schedule is just for your best guess. You're absolutely right. Now is really the only time that's absolute.
So it's like the best thing to do is like, be like, yo, look at the current situation.
Look at the chessboard.
That's what I kind of say.
And be like, yo, what's the best move right now?
You either build for your dream or build for someone else's.
Don't get me started on that shit, bro.
But yeah, bro.
That's actually facts, man.
Oh, we got Steve Strange in the building.
I didn't notice when you came on stage.
Shout out to Jay as well and the whole family showing up.
What's good, Jay?
We ain't spoke to Jay in a minute, bro.
Jay, feel free to come if you want to come
up. Shout out to Slim. I see you out here.
The Dutch is in
the building. The social media queen in this
thing. Yo, feel free to come if you want
to come up, yo. No sleeping in the house,
brr. Shout out to Steve house in this house yeah definitely feel free to come up dog shout love understand inspire
doing they thing as always yo much love to you yo i don't know candy if you want to say something
but i was about to get to steve strange oh Steve, go ahead.
How's it, Betty? Oh, thank you so much. Appreciate it. All right, man. Look, Hurricane,
you are on it, bro. I know you've been on that level since last year, but you are hitting all the fire points, okay? I can't touch on all of them because I got to address a couple of things that we need to touch on. But the one point that you made about the energy that we felt last year, funny thing about that.
The first half of the year, last year, was a very interesting time frame.
It was a portal of energy that brought in a highlight or a preview of what's
going to kind of come back around this year. So any kind of like forethought, indication,
feeling, incentive, or whatever it is, insight that we had then kind of gave us the rest of the
year to think about, to plan out, whatever we need to do with it to fill out.
And it's going to come back around like full on headstrong this year.
So, I mean, but we've been on this mission for a minute, so it all makes sense.
And what's especially important is how it makes sense to us individually.
Like you said, it's the moment is now right and it's uh
you know it's it's it's on an individual basis of where we are how we are and then um and then from
there we can start collectively you know for for the community um so that's the beauty of uh how
this energy works but um yeah a couple of things i wanted to address was in light of the conversation, you know, talking about building with Wave Wars and strategizing all these things.
You know, I was playing around with some info when I was coming across some interesting little bits of info to share with you guys, see what y'all think.
I mean, look, we got a couple examples right now.
We got the poly market and we got, what's it, like sports, fantasy sports or whatever it is
like that. We got those two models, you know, to kind of, you know, provide a little oversight,
you know, pick apart, you know, some things that I look at, I always see how I would do it differently.
If somebody's done something, I would think about what they should have done different or how I would have done it.
All those little nuances, right?
But I think those are two really good examples to kind of touch on when it comes to seeing these bigger models,
these bigger frameworks, these bigger frameworks,
these bigger organizations on where they're at
and where we feel like they're going wrong
and how we would hit it.
When, you know, we're thinking about some of this,
you know, the strategy on this,
you know, how to position wave wars,
you know, thinking about key phrases,
key words, you know,
the fantasy sports book of music or whatever,
you know, how we're trying to come up
with a concept to listen to this music as a prediction market again another key phrase
um and how we're going to execute it you know putting our heads together um of you know how
you know what we're doing how we're doing it you know canon's doing uh that that marketing aspect
of how he's putting that up together, you know, like, you know,
framing the videos and, you know, the stuff that he's creating, that's cool. That's fire, man.
That's like, you know, just kind of creating that, that momentum, creating that incentive.
You know, it's like, you can think about how else to, to put this together, the, you know,
like the, the, the fidgetal plate, the fidgetal battleground, right. We all got our cell phones.
We can all start to place our bets and, you know,
thinking just kind of picking apart how we were making that happen.
You know, again, giving kudos to various ways of doing it, like, you know,
using the phantom wallet, using the solar wallet,
but why we're using those wallets
um just to kind of gain that familiarity to the public on where this thing is happening how it's
happening why it's happening you know and then using those phrases you know don't just listen
bet on the beat you know or um you know bearish on spotify bullish on wars bearish on apple music
bullish on wave wars you
know what i mean kind of just put those familiar words that we all know very well of and putting
them into play like this um you know and then just kind of again with the whole marketing thing
similar to uh you know what what canon is doing how we can apply those same framework of marketing
like pick your fighter profit from their win know, kind of do stuff like that.
You know, we're using competition models. So we have other things to kind of tap into.
And, you know, it's like music is no longer a commodity. It's an asset.
So just different things, you know, just using to kind of gamify this a little further.
you know, just using, you know, kind of gamify this a little further,
the fantasy record label, you know, just kind of, again,
play off the words of the fantasy sports model and applying it to music and how
we're going to manage it, building like a stable or roster of artists,
you know, kind of how we put that together, putting frameworks together,
like whether it's a visual, whether it's a graphic,
and they're just kind of draft like we're drafting a team or drafting a roster of this fantasy sports label or fantasy music, fantasy music label.
And, you know, apply some of the like the recent release that we did on the leaderboard post when we were putting those stats out.
out i mean i think that was huge i think that was a pretty quick win you know it kind of put that uh
I mean, I think that was huge. I think that was a pretty quick win.
more underlying you know uh like data-driven uh synopsis and overview on just like what's going
on here i think that was a really cool move and uh you know just kind of like building rosters and
prove uh you know build your roster prove your ear be the label you know just build your roster, prove your ear, be the label, you know, just kind of, again, playing off these models, using the similar terminology, people, things that people are
familiar with, but we're swinging it on, you know, in this, in this context of what we're doing here,
trying to catch that social media presence. And that's the other thing is a social media presence,
right? Where, like, I know this this the target audience for music is all over the
place and we can hit a lot of different fronts you know um um but i think you know again if we can
find where the target audience is where like if we do if we target the audience on spotify you know
it's going to be have a certain flare you, you know, and then targeting the audience here on Twitter X is going to look a little bit different.
So we also got to keep that in mind on the how we dress it up. Right. And what that looks like.
But. But, yeah, I mean, it's just just these are just ideas that I was looking at on kind of how to, you know, kind of conceptualize this and what direction to take on how we're going to, you know,
implement this, how we roll these things out and having fun doing it because that's what matters
the most. But before I go to my second address point, I'll stop there because I'll bring it up
a little bit later with Candy and CeeLo okay okay candy had a head up and then yeah we
can definitely address the things that you addressed what's up candy
um yeah i love the things that everybody is saying um um sorry one second i was just i'm
playing hide and seek and i just jumped up from under the desk. Okay.
But yeah, so I love what everybody is saying.
I was going to say, like, as far as myself goes, I also feel like I'd fall under that, like, high risk profile.
Just because, I mean, like, I took off at 17 and moved to LA to go be a model.
So I don't know if anything is more risky than that.
Um, but, uh, so that I would say, and then two, um, I, I think we should look into, to
do it to using Lurkey.
Um, because we already do like, you you know two spaces a day basically and uh we've already heard
too like you know a lot of people have discussed wave wars um a lot of people discuss wave wars
like in other spaces and stuff especially after big battles so i was thinking maybe a team you know doing the lurky
thing could be good uh especially since we're planning to stay more focused on x um you know
at the moment i think that that we can and then also now that we have quick battles and we're
we're doing audience uh you know artists i think we also could be like i think it could be
time to maybe do a product hunt release um i love product hunts and i know that like there's tons of
builders that go to that like every day just for me it's the funnest one of the funnest parts of my day um to go see all the new things people
created but that actually gets a lot of eyes on it and even if it's not eyes as in like them
themselves are the musicians or the traders they're people like me who have communities who
they literally like send tools to all the time and they're like hey check this out yo check this out so i think we should uh start planning a product hunt uh release because i
think we can do a really good demo video and do it just about quick battles like we can you know
of course let them know we have the other stuff but like just about quick battles
because you can do as many product time releases as you want to and yeah yo yo sauce all over the place i think we all converging on the
same thought shout out to my g steve strange shout out to kenny for her statements and yeah we're
gonna say what's good to my g catalyst in a sec man but uh But yeah, we, it seems like we all conversion on the same thought
that like, we just got to master the marketing end of things, like how to frame this, like how
to frame what we doing to, you know, regular people and stuff. My mom finally gets it. And,
you know, I use my mom as the proxy for absolute normieie you know what i'm saying because not only is my mom
like a normie but like she like a super normie it was also an immigrant you know what i'm saying
like so she she like she like super like ain't nobody gonna you know not understand more than my mom so so i'll be i'll be you know i tell her the concept
and you know she she understands it yo like when i tell her the specific phrase of yeah they're
trading music like stocks to determine the winner whichever side has the higher highest value stock
at the end is the winner that's how she understands it it. So like, and then she's like, oh, that's cool. You know, but, uh, but, uh, yeah, yo. So I think,
uh, that's, that's just, you know, how my mom understands and that's absolute normie,
like zero tier crypto knowledge normie. You know what I'm saying? I like what Steve Strange is
talking about as well because i was
talking to chat gbt the other day and it was like yo you need a you need to get in front of sports
heads bro because like you've we've essentially turned music into a sport bro and that like has
just not existed before which is why you know we haven't we haven't to like kind of explain it in
a certain way to people,
like, like get it across to people.
Cause like before it had never been a thought, like, I guess, you know, or at least, you
know, built out to make music a sport in the way that we have, you know what I'm saying?
Not necessarily just in rap, but like just every category, every type of music, you know
what I'm saying?
So like, we we just gotta figure out
how to how to piece out tricky i don't know if you're leaving i just waving to some new people
jumping in what up sir i've also found the wave wars track and i used it to uh to one of my
animations it's got it over there i tagged wave wars too let's go yeah yeah i need to check that
account bro shit i've been sleeping on that but But yeah, shout out to the Wave Boys TikTok.
We do got a TikTok, you know what I'm saying?
We've been working on expanding to all platforms.
Kandi also, you know, she has some clips coming soon.
So yeah, yo, shout out to you, Kandi, for putting all that together.
But yeah, yo, that's essentially the thing we are now.
The whole marketing angle, how do we frame this?
It said great people to talk
to would be people that's into sports betting it also said people that's into uh what was the other
one damn there was another one fantasy just like what you said exactly folks that's into fantasy
uh folks that's into uh what was the other ones yeah just just those kind of lanes so i i agree with you on the messaging c strange
it's just where to message those people is the real question because like i don't really see a
lot of those people on my timeline of course my algorithm is you know probably tailored to you
know all the shit i'd be doing but and i don't really be doing those type of things but uh
like where do those people even hang out is the question. You know what I'm saying? So, like, yeah, bro.
And, like, also, like.
It's everywhere.
You got to just check the trending topics.
And when you search for, like, literally, you can search for gambling or, you know, fantasy football and see what posts are being, like, you know, active.
And then go to those communities, too, and join those communities.
And, like, all those people are potential, you know.
Waveorians.
That's what I'm talking about. Sir. I was thinking about, you know. Wave warriors. That's what I'm saying.
I was thinking about it.
How do you?
It's a plural of wave warriors.
Wave warriors.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This sounds good to my G catalyst real quick, you know, while we continue with this discussion.
What up, catalyst, man?
How you feeling, dog?
My G took the dub yesterday.
My G on the flyer today. I don't know if y'all seen it. Middle pin post up top.
You know what I'm saying?
Nope. That was definitely fire. Good morning, good morning. I'm still low-key waking up.
My cat, I'm on his time, not my own anymore. When you get a cat you'll find out if you ever get a cat they're not like dogs at all um but i definitely had a question for yesterday has anybody ever thought about doing
like a like collab battle like and by that i mean like uh maybe you got a beat maker in an artist or you got two artists for like a two-on-two type
of thing i don't know just listening to like me and canon's battle yesterday just got me thinking
i was like yo there's a way to like two on two these things not only the end not only would that
like i don't know not only does it seem like more fun but also like networking you can get artists and producers networking
and making money at the same time I don't know that just came you know songs
Eden songs even that has been doing that like we did one that was like the punks
versus the Zao right away we all like would participate in each which like
track he also does these ones that are competing with other people international
just based on getting as many people into the song as possible.
I think the world record is like 600 and something people.
So he wants to try to beat that.
And I thought Michael Jackson had the most people on one song.
Nah, the thing about Michael Jackson, he way too strict, bro.
Oh, yeah. You gotta do it his way.
Fuck off that shit, bro.
You gotta do it his way. Mike was a professionalist.
Nah, dead ass, bro.
I don't know if y'all saw that little
We Are The World clip where he saw that.
That's what I said.
I thought he was the only person with the most people
on one song.
That was hilarious, bro. yeah man that's that's essentially the vibe but yeah i like the team idea we definitely had it talked about it's just that we just never had done it yet you know
what i'm saying that's really it like that just lets me know i was thinking i was thinking the
right way absolutely bro definitely some sauce you me? As far as the quick battles,
I don't know how it would go down that way,
but, like, for our featured battles,
we could definitely have, like,
a team kind of affair thing.
And that shit would be lit, bro.
You feel me?
Especially if we, uh...
Never mind.
Let me not get off.
By that, I'm saying, like,
let's say me and Cannon make a song
and Louie and Kid make a song.
Like, I throw that in a quick battle and
then like the winners split it or something. I don't know how that would work, but like something
like that. I hear you, bro. I hear you. Right now, we got it set up that like whatever wallet is on
the, what's it called? Whatever wallet you sign up onto the audience is the wallet that gets the
payouts. And I was thinking about the best way to, you know, do split tracks in that, et cetera,
et cetera. The one workaround is not the best, but like the one workaround right now is to create
like a collab audience account. You know what I'm saying? Like an audience account where it's like,
yo, you know, catalyst and, you know, whoever your producer is,
y'all have a particular audience account, and then whatever wallet y'all use for that,
y'all can split whatever gets into that wallet.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's 100% possible, you feel me?
And, like, y'all can put up your collab tracks on that profile instead of on the Catalyst-only profile.
You know what I'm saying?
Definitely.
Yes, sir. But, yeah, I love the idea of team battles because, like, yeah, bro, I agree. definitely yes there
but yeah I love the idea of team battles
because like yeah bro I agree music is
100% a team sport
like most songs take way more
than one person bro like you need a producer
you need an artist you need a
etc etc it's only nowadays
with AI and you know saying
focus right if you know you know
that folks is doing everything they damn self.
But, yo, let me say what's good to my GJ, bro. Long time no see, bro. How's it going, bro?
This is the first time I've seen you without a duck on your profile picture, unless this is some kind of morpho duck.
What the fuck is this, bro?
Damn, now he's rugged. Can't even quack it up. Undefined. What's this, bro? Damn, now he's
rugged. He didn't even quack it.
Undefined.
What's up, man?
So, once again, I have a duck
That's a duck.
Yeah, well,
I mean, it is
inspired by my duck collection.
It's not a duck.
I mean, it is inspired by my duck collection. It's not not a duck. I mean, that's exactly what I've ever heard.
That's what it is right there, bro.
There's quite a few of my pin posts.
I can't post to the Jumble John, so you're just going to have to take a look at that for yourself.
There are some ducks with the have beaks.
This duck doesn't have a beak.
This is a collection that wasn't meant to be a collection.
So, I have wings.
I don't know if that helps, but
not. I'm trying to zoom in on
this, bro, and figure out what she's talking about.
I'm trying to see the duck in this picture, bro.
Oh, I get it now. Okay.
It seems to be... Okay, I get
it now. I was looking at it from the zoomed-out perspective.
I see that it has a body as well.
I was looking at it like the eyes were the faces in between the wings.
You know, the wings in your head?
I thought those were the eyes.
I was like, bro, that's not kind of sexy.
It really has been too long.
It's the amount of time you haven't seen me while you don't know what's going on.
That's okay.
Cause I haven't been as active as I was the last time I was in your space.
So that makes a lot of sense,
new schedule.
So timing hasn't been the same as it used to be.
Otherwise, I would have been in here every day.
Most likely.
We've worked.
That's the goal, bro.
Mosei Cavalier and Dan Jones.
The Sunday is going down, bro.
I think that's the second.
I got the bird call.
You said you got the bird.
I got the quiet call.
I got the bird call. Oh, really? i got the quack call i got the bird call oh really
there's different type of calls for different type of birds i think i made the wrong call bro i think what I did was a pigeon y'all more like quack, you know, I'm saying
But you know what is funny because after you did that look who popped in the building
Who popped into the space who pop look down below?
Look down below. I'm gonna say any name look down below. Do you below. I'm going to say any names. Look down below. Do you see
any pigeons? Do I see any pigeons?
You can't make this
shit up. I mean, I do
see a bear.
I don't know if you're calling my G-Steelo
a pigeon right now. That's crazy
What kind of phone do you got, bro?
What kind of phone do you got? You got an iPhone?
Andrew, what kind of device do you got?
I actually got an extremely dope iPhone.
Shout out to my pops.
You got me an iPhone for Christmas.
I was like, bro, this is the greatest Christmas movie of all time, bro.
It makes a lot of sense.
There's a lot of lag time behind that phone.
So there's a person down there that has a pigeon on the BMP.
Bro, nobody is seeing this pigeon.
It's going to take a while. It's going to take a while.
It's going to take a while for your iPhone to catch up.
At least you can post on Jumbotron.
That's the only good thing about it.
there's that.
Bro, is Jay going crazy, bro?
I literally don't see a pigeon in this space, bro.
Let me take a screenshot
of it before they decide to leave the room.
Okay, I'm trying to figure out who figure out there's definitely no pigeon here. Yeah
What kind of phone you got bro, let's let's see
That's the same connection he got and you both can't see the pigeon
So I think it's clear as day
That jay connects isn't bullshitting here
that Jay Connects isn't bullshitting here.
That has two versus one.
That has some type of lag.
That has some type of lag with X.
Does anybody else have an iPhone on stage
that want to say don't see a pigeon?
Bro, Jay's going crazy, bro.
Jay's starting to look like a crazy-ass duck
on his profile.
You know I don't be capping.
You know I don't be capping.
You know I'll be having all the receipts.
If you want to go down the line.
Candy, talk to me, Candy.
Talk to me.
I don't see a pigeon either, but I also have an iPhone.
Oh, you have an iPhone.
Oh, my God.
I see J Street's, Cool Z, Chaz.
Talk to us, Catalyst.
Your game.
That's three.
That's three.
How many more are you? Who else has an iPhone? Let's show hands. Who has an iPhone here? Catalyst
Let's show hands Who has an iPhone here?
I got an iPhone
Everybody got an iPhone bro
Ain't nobody seeing no goddamn pigeons
See my iPhone in this, bae?
It explains a lot because everybody can't see this pigeon down below.
Nah, bro. All right, you're trolling.
I'm not trolling, and I'm going to show you.
All right, drop the pic. Drop the pic. Drop the pic.
This is absolutely... All right. I'll drop it in the comment section. Hold on a second. Let me first take the pig. This is absolutely... Alright. I'll drop it in the comment section.
Hold on a second.
Let me first take the screenshot.
Confirmed.
Alright. This guy really trying to prove to us
Android is better by telling
us there's an imaginary pigeon in the
space. You can't do this, bro.
You don't even...
He's like, yo, put a pigeon in.
You know what I'm saying, bro?
Yo, I swear to you, bro, you got to do a better job.
Because I'm about to cloud all of you right now.
Crazy, bro.
Shout out to all the Android holders that are going to play this space back and go,
damn, Jay, you did it again.
Not Android holders, bro.
What's his NFT language?
I'm holding Android right now. I'm holding Android right now.
I'm holding Android right now.
All right, we chopping on J2S.
We chopping on J2S.
I put it in the comment section.
I put it in the comment section, bro.
To let you guys in life.
Now, every time you come in here capping?
Yeah, go ahead.
Go check the comment section.
Let's go test that theory section Let's go test that theory
Let's go test that theory
And after I said that, they left
And they left
And they left right after I said that
They felt like, you know, I was targeted
As soon as they did the bird call
They popped in the room
And then all these iPhones
Because it's clear as day Clear as day's pigeon, bro All these
Clear as days pigeon, bro, I know you have an iPhone, but listen, it he's on the pigeon. Oh, James Captain. James Captain, though.
Louie, James Captain, though.
Yeah, but I see the picture, and I still don't see the pigeon.
Where's the pigeon at?
Bro, check through the closet.
What year, what year model, what model year
do you have in your iPhone, just out of curiosity?
Is it like the latest one?
Is it like two years ago?
Which upgrade did you get?
Nah, James. Just the... So I put it on the years ago? Which upgrade did you get? Nah, James.
Is that the picture, right?
I spent no picture in that day.
Which iOS did you get?
Which one do you want?
Honestly, I'm on my back
that I got for Christmas.
So it's the latest.
Alright, that's enough of this I've blown slander.
That's enough of this pigeon talk.
We finished with this.
If you don't know, the
shit is, okay, the guy had a
tiny ass pigeon in his robot.
So I see what she's saying
now. Explain where's Waldo
in this hoe. But it's all good,
bro. You know what I'm saying?
You win bro.
You win Jay.
Shout out to-
Wait, wait, wait bro.
I still don't see the picture.
It's in the little-
Okay, don't-
You pin up the wrong picture first of all.
It's in the-
It's in the replies.
Jay got another reply of the like zoomed in profile picture.
And like this guy got a pigeon on the bottom
left corner of the profile picture.
really wanted us to go picture by
No, we didn't.
The big one
is a pigeon, but he has a little
He has a little mask over the face.
There's two pigeons
Thank you, Louis, for catching on.
How long has it been?
Five minutes?
Apple's still catching up.
So listen, I did my job helping you guys out.
And like I said, I said the pigeon would leave.
The pigeon did leave.
So what I posted to the top was a screenshot of the actual pigeon in the room at that moment in time.
So after calling them out, they left because, you know, this is ridiculous.
You guys can't see shit.
You guys need the Android host up there.
You want me to host some spaces?
Let me hold it down for a while.
Anyways, this is probably why I took a break.
And they say that you guys are the best.
Listen, I can't wait for Wave Wars.
I'll be there on Sunday.
Jay, the next.
What an appearance, bro.
What an appearance.
That's the biggest gaslight of January 20th.
I'm here all night, guys.
I have a space tonight.
You're welcome to join me at 915 Eastern Standard Time.
Louie, love to see you, as always.
And the doors are open.
I have a space called the Pigeon Coop on Monday nights.
Curly pigeons in there.
Can you just gaslight it again?
Oh, my God. Now we want to do the name calling.
First he called.
Before he said I'm a captain.
Now he said I'm a gaslighter.
Then he said I have no pigeons.
Now he sees two pigeons, and he's delayed by five minutes.
Which one is it?
You got to choose one.
Bro, if I hear the word pigeon one more time, I might have to bust a hole in my wall.
Good God, bro.
This is how I talk about too many goddamn pigeons, bro.
Let's get to Steve Strange, bro.
And get to some more serious things, bro.
Goddamn pigeons, bro.
What's up, Steve Strange?
Wait, we got a duck in here, too.
Oh, my God.
You know what they use to send messages before the
phone huh oh pigeons no yo see strange bro save us please wow okay um i know time is of the essence
here so i'm gonna go in back to my second point uh The second, what I wanted to address here is, so yesterday, Stilo had a fire ass session in Spatial.
We went over vibe coding, like a vibe coding workshop.
All right.
So that was, that was, that was fire ass session.
I mean, I think like the way Stilo put it, that was a good practice, you know, as far as like something that we could roll out another phase into the planning on how
to roll some stuff out. Candy did an amazing presentation. Appreciate you, Candy, going into
breaking it down, showing a lot of information on how to go, you know, things to be aware of,
how to move into this area. Because one thing that I think we need
to kind of be aware of is how to start building into Web3, meaning using, you know, building
websites on the on the Web3 technology on the blockchain, because ultimately, the internet
we're using right now is Web2. And if there's anything that we saw a lot of last year
was a lot of internet hacks and a lot of outages,
and that ain't gonna stop.
In fact, it's probably gonna become a lot more mainstream
and forceful this time around.
So we're gonna have to find these alternatives
to start putting our websites on
or putting our information on these
like actual Web 3.3 platforms that can withstand or at least, you know, be a very
productive ways of building on something that's not going to go down.
That's what Web3 is about.
It's about the next phase in the Internet.
It's this next level.
And so that's what makes this workshop with Stilo and Spatial kind of imperative, kind
of get some insight on how to start to do this.
You know, Candy brought up a good point yesterday
about looking into base platform or Farcaster.
I think that's a good alternative too,
to kind of start, you know, leaning into more of these Web 3 avenues.
Again, start, you know, to just, again,
reinforce our vision and our structure,
because this Web 2 paradigm is built on sand,
and it is going to go down.
So we got to kind of start to become more familiar with how
to start building on that.
And one thing I mentioned within that little workshop
was me giving a class in there too on building
with caffeine AI that uses ICP because they're using a decentralized cloud-based technology
where the stuff that we build on ICP exists on a serverless cloud, meaning it's not going to Amazon, it's not going to cloud
there, it's not going to everybody that's holding servers, it's just existing on the
internet by itself.
So cloudless servers is a key play here and think about how to build on those if we can
access those.
So anyways, that was my second point I needed to address and about how we start building
moving forward.
And that goes for all of us, you know, because we're all building on something using projects.
And, you know, again, Web 2 is built on sand.
So we're going to have to reinforce our game.
Yeah. Only thing, only gripe I have about like ICP and a lot of these things is like they haven't been stress tested.
You know what I'm saying? Or like battle tested with like a lot of volume you know i'm saying or a lot of activity you know so like i do agree with
you that uh cloudflare etc etc like damn near the whole internet is built on cloudflare and
in aws but like at least those have been like battle tested you know i'm saying and i do i do
like the idea of like having a backup
ready you know in the case of any type of bs happening i think is absolutely essential so
yeah i think web 3 and the technologies you talk about icp etc etc make very good for backups until
they've proven themselves like on a on a on a what's it called on a high velocity level which as we build you
know somebody gonna get to it you know what i'm saying i mean you gonna get there for sure somebody
you know what i mean so like that's when we'll see you know what's really good but i love i love
what you bring to the table and all the stuff that you tell the folks bro i think it's absolute sauce
whenever it is your class in session on on steele's name bro
definitely let us know bro because that that's gonna be some heat
shout out to my gc oh what's up what's up yeah um you're right about the um let's see i mean as
far as it being battle tested they only have like the one main app that they have that I know has a lot of traffic is called Open Chat.
I've only used it just a few amount of times, but I know that's where all their traffic goes.
And it's built like it's kind of built like Telegram.
It's like a mix between Telegram and Discord, but that's where all their people go.
I don't know what kind of cross multimedia stuff they do over there but um you know as far as the battle
testing goes though i mean we're gonna find out so it's good to have uh some stop kind of shed up
it's like so we can set it up so when that time comes then we can then we're all gonna find out you gonna learn today but uh yeah yeah i feel
you dog shout out to shout out to you man getting us right on the tech stack forms the things i
definitely think you know we got to be thinking in all of these ways especially we looking to
take over and be independent and not have to worry about you know governments and shit
wb started on everything that's been going on lately.
But, yo, we gonna keep cooking.
Either way, I do gotta close the space in like two minutes exactly.
So if you have any last things you need to say
that don't got shit to do with pigeons,
I swear to God, if you don't do with pigeons, bro,
then let us know.
You feel me?
What's up, Jay?
I just wanted to...
I just wanted to read the right time we went to touch it to a listener down there.
Her name is Lady Never Scared.
Oh, my God.
I didn't say anything about what you just said.
I just wanted you to say hello to my good friend, co-host.
We just face every Monday.
Shout out to Lady Never Scared.
She has a really nice PFP.
Nah, this man Jay is a menace, bro.
This is a true menace in our midst, bro.
But, uh, shout out to Lady Never Scared.
You already know it's all love, yo.
Shout out to Coolzy, yo.
Seth Rosen in the building.
Chaz, man, I was speaking to you with the DMs on Wave Wars, bro.
Apparently he making music, too.
Shout out to Yvonne Reyes.
Nice to meet you out here.
More quakes in the building.
All these little quakes and stuff.
Yo, I see y'all, bro.
But student loans, you already know the deal.
Shout out to the Dutchess in this thing.
Steele, bro, good to see you out here, man.
Me and Kit Venom got a hit in the works.
Engineers, he was like, yo, can you re-record, bro?
You need to do this.
I was like, bro, what?
I was like, damn.
Because he was saying, he said... I was speaking in the house.
Yo, he said
he heard noise in the background. I was like,
damn, now I gotta put a noise
gate on my vocals.
Put a... Nah, let me chill, bro.
Do it, bro. You gotta do what you gotta do.
You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
We gotta do what we gotta do, man.
But shout out to IG,
Louis May, in this name, always motivating us to be the best, man. But shout out to IG, Louis May.
In this name, always motivating us to be the best, man.
And he gave us a fire-ass title for tonight's trading space.
Make money trading music?
Question mark?
Question mark changes the game.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yo, that's what we're about to do tonight, yo.
Trade music live.
You know what I'm saying?
We got some heaters. Folks been uploading some shit to do tonight, yo. Trade music live. You know what I'm saying? We got some heaters.
Folks been uploading some shit to the catalog, bro.
Shout out to my G Catalyst.
That was unintended, but it worked.
That's it with it.
So, heat, bro.
Check the, I think I got the clips coming soon from the battle from last night.
From some of the stuff we got from last night.
But, yeah, bro.
Definitely some heat yesterday. But, yeah, bro, definitely some heat yesterday.
But, yeah, we do it again tonight, 8.30 p.m. EST, right here on Wave Wars with a Z.
Don't let me catch you with no S's and shit, bro.
But, yeah, man, that's it, bro.
Let me know if y'all got any last things to say, and then we got to close up the spissy.
Check out my pin posts for more funny animations.
But, yeah, good to see all of you.
Hope you have a great day.
I'll see you in the next one. Stay positive.
God bless. God bless.
Shows to my G's tricky Buddha.
There's pinned up top.
We just published
on YouTube the
Stupid vs Bongo replay.
It's a fire battle.
So definitely catch that one.
Totally agreed, yo.
Yeah, that was a huge shit we need to say.
Yo, definitely peep that shit.
Candy put a foot in that hole, bro.
She put a foot in that video.
Like, yo, because, yeah, we be getting a lit in the space and all that shit, but shout out
to Kandiyo for making these videos
pop, bro, for all of these normies out
here that come across the Wave Wars YouTube
that's going to see what the heck we cooking
out here, bro. So, yeah, she made it, she
makes us look extremely good.
You know what I'm saying?
Art cover is fire, too. That's what I'm
saying, bro. Like, she...
Thank you. You feel me, yo. Like, see. Thank you.
You feel me, yo?
Like, damn.
God bless Candy, yo.
She make everything we do out here actually look, you know what I'm saying, good.
You feel me?
Presentable to the public.
Whereas me, I just be chaotic and shit.
I just be like, fuck it.
But, yo, we gonna get it done either way, man.
We gonna keep cooking, bro.
They gonna find us somehow, some way.
Like I said, tonight, we live in a trading-only space. We starting promptly at 8.35 p.m. EST, bro.
That's when the music starts.
That's when the trading starts.
Not a second left.
You know what I'm trying to say.
Not a second left after.
But either way, we also going to be back over here in the day space, 11 a.m. EST for the last space of the week.
Tomorrow, last day space of the week.
Tomorrow, 11 a.m. EST.
So if you got any thoughts from everything that we talked about today, definitely feel free to come back tomorrow.
Let us know what's good.
We're building a future, man.
Let's keep cooking, man.
Yo, I'm fucking hype, bro.
I'll see y'all later.
Cannon Jones versus Mose this Sunday.
And that rhymes.
7EST is going down.
Yeah, that's the last thing I think I need to say.
Check all the pinned posts if you missed anything.
And, yeah, the comments and all of that.
But, yeah, appreciate y'all for coming through.
Space closing in the next 10 seconds.
Feel free to say anything you need to say.
Space closing in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2.
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