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Music Village® Tuesdays 2 : ft. Special Guest June 3 2025
Recorded: June 3, 2025 Duration: 1:02:36Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion, Mark Powers shared insights on the intersection of binaural beats and mental health, highlighting potential partnerships and growth opportunities in the wellness sector. The conversation also touched on emerging trends in crypto, including the integration of therapeutic applications and the potential for grants to support innovative projects.
Full Transcription
and welcome back to the second music village space and let's get going we've
got an hour oh look who's coming up to the stage
isn't the special co-hosts were the most welcome to the stage
I believe it's Esther.
I think she's just connecting.
Oh, hey, how's it going?
Doing great.
How are you?
I'm doing well, thanks, Esther.
How are you feeling right now?
Pretty much better, thank you.
Oh, that's good.
Yes, how have you been?
Thanks.
Yeah, really good.
Last week, as we weren't here, obviously, but I think you were under the weather.
But I was traveling to another country, Laos, to do a visa run.
So I was successful in that.
And so I'm feeling really good right now.
Thanks very much for asking.
That's amazing.
How did it go?
How was it?
Yeah, really good.
I did a 12-hour overnight train journey and then basically got on a train and came straight back.
So I did two overnight trains in a row to reset my visa and
kind of carry on. So yeah, it was, uh, it was pretty relaxing. Actually.
It was a nice trip.
Well, you still there or are you back in Thailand?
Yeah. Back in Thailand now.
Oh, okay.
Quite an adventure.
Yeah, really an adventure.
Have you been on an overnight train before?
No, I haven't.
Not overnight.
Yeah, it's quite the experience.
I'm just going to send the link to our special guest and just research okay yeah so last week hello guys
hello everyone to the space we've got a very special guest who is coming up and i believe
he is here right now this is the very special mark powers so let's get mark up on stage
then hey susan how's it going? Good to see you there.
Check out the first Music Village space. The link is on my timeline. It was two weeks ago,
and it was a great chat. Ken and Suzanne, we heard some interesting music stories
from Suzanne, and it was great to hear from Ken.
So that was two weeks ago now, episode one.
But welcome back, guys.
Just to see if we've got a request coming in here.
Suzanne is coming up.
That's great.
Suzanne from the Authenticity Institute.
And had a famous, hey, that's great. Suzanne from the Authenticity Institute. And had a famous, hey Suzanne, welcome.
Okay, can you hear me now?
Hey, hello Suzanne.
Very good, glad to be here.
Yeah, good to see you Suzanne, how's it been going?
Oh, busy as usual.
And I have a couple of music things up my sleeve that I'm working on in the off minutes.
That's awesome. I mean, I've got a little idea of what you're referring to. Is it secret from the space or would you like to give a teaser?
from the space or would you like to give a teaser?
Oh, I don't know.
It has to do with my rejuvenating a couple of my old kids songs
because they've become relevant these days.
I don't know what else to say.
It has something to do with manatees,
which are endangered in Florida right now.
There you go.
I didn't expect that.
Ken, Marco, I've sent a request to speak.
I'm not sure if it came through.
You could send a speaking request.
I don't know if it came through at your end,
but we've got someone with a lot of music experience about to come up.
And that is Mark Powers, who's a very well seasoned spaces host as well and a binaural beats expert, someone who's interested in music.
So hopefully the. Oh, hey, Ken.
Good morning. It's morning in Los Angeles.
So hello to everybody.
I hope everyone is well.
And I'm good to be here.
I had a little I'm still navigating my my ways of getting in here.
But I am here today under my name.
Yes. So here we go.
How is everyone? How is everyone doing?
I'm doing well, and I'm glad to see you again.
Hello, Suzanne. I, uh, I, did you find someone to collaborate with your, uh, songs?
you find someone to collaborate with your songs? I'm trying to. I'm trying to get somebody to
lend me their videos. I'm going to make a music video out of it. Okay.
This particular one that I'm working on right now. Excellent.
Excellent. Excellent.
So what is the topic for today?
What are we talking about?
Well, good timing.
I think Mark has just jumped up on stage.
Mark Powers, welcome to the stage.
Hey, what's up?
I hope you can hear me.
Hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, Mark, you're loud and clear.
So I guess answering Ken's question and Mark, Ken, Esther, Suzanne, this is Mark Powers.
He's, I don't know how to even describe him.
He's a lot of different things.
Would you like to describe yourself
you're kind of the topic for the topic oh yeah that's not so easy man been there done that did
everything and nothing i would say you know um yeah i'm a music producer i'm a rapper
i had spaces for one year almost daily spaces um for all kinds of blockchains, 15 blockchains or something.
Everybody was welcomed, of course.
And I was a graphic artist, more like a Dejan meme artist for a lot of projects on Solana, Binance, Ethereum, Pochain and whatnot.
Yeah, and I met Edward in Bangkok twice.
The last time was in the beginning of this year.
And it was always a blessing, you know, to talk about blockchains
and technology, about Ch chia and other stuff and the first time when i met him it was
the halvening was right around the corner so edward was very excited of course i wasn't so
familiar with chia at that time to be honest but yeah we had a we had a great energy and wipe and we decided yeah why not let's keep
the connection flowing and see what we can do together yeah that's me i'm wak wopas now i'm
a vario of mario but normally i'm mark powers i should probably change my name back to that
but i always destroy my my my brands and all I'm very good at destroying my brands, you know.
So, yeah, that's why I went to Watch War Press. Yeah.
Yeah, that was it. We met the first time in Bangkok. That was one of the best chats I had with someone I just met.
we met the first time in Bangkok that was one of the best chats i had with someone i just met that
was an amazing week and in fact that's where that was when Wes came into the cheer space that week
and Suzanne is Wes's like long-term collaborator so uh you're on stage with Suzanne here she's a
she's a legend of uh technology music and uh working with Wes Oh, nice to meet you all. Where are my manners? I'm sorry.
Yeah, glad to meet you all. And I'm very blessed to be here.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, I mean, I know a fair bit about you, but people here obviously don't.
But could you tell us a bit about binaural beats?
I think that really
is interesting oh okay yeah yeah sure um where i start um i i released two albums on soundcloud
soundcloud um also available as a free download you know because i was in some kind of telegram
group and where we talked about mental health
and a little bit about spirituality and stuff like that.
And then there was an elderly lady, you know,
and one of the admins over there said,
yo, it would be really cool if you can do some healing music for her.
And I was like, yeah, why not?
Some relaxed meditation sounds. I had no clue at that time about binaural beats or something like that. So, yeah, I got in touch with I don't know when that was.
I mean, I know when that was, but I'm not sure where I was with that lady at that time.
But I had a panic attack one night.
You know, I had a very, very intense panic attack.
You know, something, I don't know, something was wrong in my energy system or something. And yeah, and then I got out of that paralyzed feeling
when I started playing some notes, you know,
and I started humming.
I always practice, but not very often.
I practice some throat singing because I can hit some low tones, you know, and then I was humming some throat singing because I can hit some low tones, you know.
And then I was humming some throat sounds
and I was playing some keys and stuff like that.
And then I got out of the paralyzes
and then I discovered also some frequencies.
I had a test oscillator, is that called?
I'm working with Logic. And
I was like, wow, that's interesting. Yeah, let's try some frequencies, you know, on the
left side and on the right side. And I read a little bit about binaural beats at that
time, like, I don't know, like here here's something about it and but I
had no clue about how to create them you know but I was like yo you make a left
frequency and you make a right frequency and then the vibration in the middle the
the for example you have 210 Hertz on the left side, and you have 212 hertz on the right side.
And the human ear will only recognize that at 2 hertz as the difference between both frequencies, you know.
And I did that without thinking too much about that during that process.
And yeah, and then I finished that process. And yeah, and then I sent, I finished that piece.
And that was the first piece of the first Binaural Beats album, you know.
And I sent that, that lady, you know.
And she was really happy.
She was like, wow, that's really nice.
I listen to it and I feel much better.
I had more contact with her we talked about mental
health and i talked with her about her environment the group she in and what kind of people are in
there and then she said yeah some people want to control her and blah blah blah yeah and but that
started a process and then um i don't know how to say it,
but I had some kind of like visions and how to create that album, you know.
It was normally if I make music, I do a lot of sync and licensing, you know.
And if I do music, yeah, I do it a little bit mechanically,
little bit mechanically, especially with commercial projects.
especially with commercial projects.
I'm not going to lie about that.
So, and it's like, yeah, it's like a, like a, I can say it.
It's a commercial music.
It's like a mechanical process to me, you know, like, yeah,
I have an intro, then I have the first verse and I have a bridge and the
chorus and blah, blah, blah.
And with that binaural beats, it felt more like I was like a medium
that's some kind of language
to talk with people
through sounds I would say
it's hard to
human words for that because
the process it's like a flow
it's like a wave and then something
is happening and everything the two, it's like a flow, you know, it's like a wave and then something is happening and everything, the two albums happened in like, I don't know, eight months, nine months or something like that.
And the peak point of both albums is always the winter solstice and the summer solstice, you know.
And yeah, it was a pretty interesting process.
And I don't know.
A lot of people came to me afterwards.
I never made any promotion for it.
I barely mentioned it because I was still like, what is this, man?
What have you done here?
I was kind of confused with the whole process.
And I had to figure out what was happening to me during that process,
if that makes sense.
But then I got great feedback.
I got always great feedback.
People were like, yo, that was so good.
I had a trip, memory lane.
I could deal with some trauma and I don't know and whatnot.
So, yeah, and that got me into Binaural Beats.
I haven't, I think I produced some sketches in the meantime,
but now I'm reading more books and I try to get more into it.
And, yeah, looking, I don't know.
I don't like the word scientific science so much, to be honest,
because I feel the creative process,
especially with this one, is more like a wave, you know,
and even the knowledge.
And when I learn something about it, when I produce it,
it's more like a wave and it feels more like a
flow and um i have to be prepared for it i have to be light for it i don't i can't eat too much
and and it's a pretty intense process yeah i know it sounds pretty pretty crazy and probably um
a bit a bit weird to someone.
Can I ask a few questions here? Are we talking, this binaural beats, is this primarily instrumental music you're talking about?
I mean, because we're trying to conceive of what you're talking about in the abstract and not the concrete.
We can't listen. So are you making, uh, instrumental music? And do you consider yourself as if the way
you're talking, as if you're channeling the music from another source, uh, maybe, or you're
channeling from somewhere deep inside of you. You talked about a little bit of trauma. You talked about having panic attacks.
Did you find the genesis of those panic attacks?
And is that where the music is coming from?
So are we talking primarily instrumental music that you're channeling?
Yeah, it's instrumental music.
But my voice is included as well and organic elements. It was very important to me to add organic elements but my voice is included as well, and organic elements.
It was very important to me to add organic elements and my voice.
Not always, but it's not 100% instrumental music, you know.
But to your next question, the genesis, where it comes from.
It comes from, yeah, I don't know, man.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
That kind of panic attack, what I had that evening,
I used to have it as a child, you know.
I used to have it as a child when I laid down as six-year-old in my bed
and then boom, I felt something.
I don't know, I felt some presence or something.
It could be high-level paranoia, but I felt some presence, you know.
And I don't know what's the genesis of it.
I'm still in the process of finding that out, to be honest.
No, I'm not worried about, you know, my question really, I'm not, I mean, obviously that's
something, the genesis of all our own, you know, panic attacks and trauma and whatever,
if we ever experience them, that's for us. But I mean, in terms of musically, what I'm asking is,
do you find that you're creating from that point, from that trauma? What I'm saying is,
is that is because many people, as we know, whether it be Picasso, Van Gogh, or the great,
you know, Coltrane, Miles, they create it out of their own pain, or their own, what you call
paranoia. All the great musicians usually experience something, and they make beauty out of it and and that that's that's the core
essence of um creation something i don't want to say all all beauty is created out of pain but in
many ways it is so i mean maybe you don't want to locate where you're creating from i don't know but
i'm just asking uh do you find yourself creating out of that pain? It's definitely started the process,
but I wouldn't say every piece is based on that.
No, that's not.
But it started the process,
and the interesting thing is now four years later,
because it's been like, yeah, it's been four years now,
the same kind of feeling,
the same kind of panic attack is coming up.
And now I start doing that process again.
You know, it's crazy.
Yeah.
So it has definitely something to do with it.
Okay.
Well, no, we don't want all, we don't want you to having panic attacks all the time.
So no, don't worry.
I, by the way, by the way, I want to add something.
I found out
it might be
our interpretation, you know,
the panic attack or the fear.
But actually,
it's the unknown.
I would say it's the fear of the unknown
because I don't know what's going on
within my system
during the panic attacks and during the intense times of fear.
So the only way I react to it is like, yeah, being panicked, you know.
But maybe I get used to it, you know what I mean?
And maybe I can discover it in some way, you know.
Do you know?
Do you know?
Because panic attacks are very common.
Do you know the technique of breathing and of controlling your panic attacks?
Have you ever been in therapy?
No, but my brother told me that.
He had something like that and his therapist said, yeah, let's focus on one point, try to look in the distance, try to breathe.
Sure, sure. I mean, you know, obviously we're focusing more on the creative side, but on the personal side, we all we all want to be whole and healthy.
uh, whole and, and healthy. Um, so it's something to think about to get, because you don't want to
keep relying on waiting for the panic attacks to happen because panic attacks can be very serious.
So, I mean, uh, uh, it's, it's something, something to think about. You probably want
to look at where these panic attacks come, but in creatively, um, creatively, uh, as I was saying, you might want to figure out what you're creating out of.
Because right now you're creating what you consider to be art out of your panic attacks and your existential anxiety, I would say it is.
your existential anxiety, I would say it is.
And it's doing well by you.
But going forward, you probably want to just explore what the genesis is.
But that's fine.
Now, let me ask you something.
You're an emcee, a rapper.
What are your primary subjects?
What do you rap about? What are your primary concerns when you create your, I would say, hip-hop, whatever, rap music? What do you rap about in the world?
in the world?
if I rap about something
for commercial purposes,
it's based on the brief, of course,
you know, but if I do
let's say my private music,
you know, my own music,
let's say your private music, yeah.
It's always critics about the
government, about the society.
I was very angry at
Corona, for example, you
know, when they made, when they closed the word and locked everyone down, when
people in Turkey were forbidden to go to the beach, but then you look to the hotel
and everybody's go swimming, you know, and that made me very angry and anger.
Of course, sometimes I got to let it out.
If I could choose, I would probably have a death metal band, you know, but I'm a rapper, you know.
So because I have some death metal friends and they're so relaxed, man, because they let it all out, bro.
all out, bro.
So, yeah, but it's
also philosophy,
how you can
deal with yourself,
how you can find yourself,
how you can search for yourself within that
creative process, you know.
But that's mainly on German, in my
native tongue. If I do
music in English, it's
is rubbish, you know.
It's just for sync and licensing and to sell it for a brief
or something like that.
Okay, yeah.
Because it's easier for me to express myself in my native language.
In your native tongue, yeah.
Absolutely, yes.
Understandable, yeah.
Yeah, but it's very, very, since I started rapping
when I was 14 years old or 13 years, something like that,
it was always to let out my honest thoughts of what I think about the world, I would say.
Sure, sure, yeah, absolutely.
That's the great, great rapping, great bars come from personal experience
and personal philosophy.
And battle rap.
Of course, battle rap was pretty big.
I'm from the 90s.
I started rapping in the 94.
And we always made battle games.
It was super fun.
And that was also a thing why we were not aggressive. If somebody
came to us and said a bad word,
we were like, yeah, do
better, boy, you know, because
we were already so hard to each other.
So, but just for fun,
and we had a laugh, and nobody was pissed, you know.
Everybody was, like, accepting the
invisible rule, like,
yo, this is just a
creative, dirty, let's say explicit process, but it's
part of the rap game, you know, battling each other.
Yeah, that was a part two, 100%.
Just have fun, you know, I would say.
Sure.
Sounds good.
Mark, I have a question about binaural beats back to that. When I saw the term in
Mark, I have a question about binaural beats, back to that.
Edward's announcement of this space, I saw the term and so I did a quick look up and I now I
have a couple of questions you might be able to clear it up. It sounds like you don't tell me if
I'm on the wrong track here. You don't hear it, but your brain perceives it.
If you're, and you gotta have headphones on
so you get the left frequency and the right frequency.
But is it, am I understanding it correctly that if you,
we're listening to this say on speakers and not headphones,
it would just sound like music.
But if you put on the speakers, you get the left and right frequencies that combine and your brain perceives it a certain way and sends you into a, you know, like a deep sleep mood or a different mood or this, you know, something that you don't hear explicitly.
But it's a feeling that you get from the binaural beat.
Even though you don't hear
it your brain gets it am i on the right track um hello first of all nice to meet you um thanks for
your question yeah um look there's a different first of all i need to i need to i take a little
bit of a round now okay there are different are different brainwaves, you know,
because everybody is thinking like,
yo, this is for meditation or something,
or it gets you down or something.
There are different purposes,
and it depends on your brainwaves, you know?
For example, you have gamma brainwaves,
and that means 40 hertz to 100 hertz.
And that's pretty good if you want high-level thinking, if you want to get
activated, you know, if you want to get your brain activated and maybe for remote viewers or
something, or a lot of people doing it in the office, there's more and more and more people
using it during office times to enhance the productivity, you know.
So, and that hurts, let's say 40 hertz, okay.
You have on the left side, you have 240 hertz.
On the right side, you have 280 hertz.
And your brain, especially when you have headphones, then the effect is stronger, true.
But it happens also when you have speakers.
So you have 240 hertz on the left side, you have 280 hertz on the right side.
So the difference in between and what your brain really realizes is only the 40 hertz,
the difference between two frequencies.
And it has nothing to do with music. I mean, you can have the
expression of a frequency with a musical note, but the problem is with musical notes
or instruments, let's say instruments, they play them, they have so many other frequencies
normally inside, you know, because if you hit a piano
string then there's lower notes, higher notes, so it's pretty hard to get a
certain frequency out of a musical instrument, you know. So you're using an
oscillator and that gives you the direct frequency of 40 Hertz,'s say or 200 Hertz or 1000 Hertz it doesn't matter
and and it's that's probably just like an
you know just like a like a frequency tone and yeah I hope that that answers
your question a little bit well it does but I'm still curious to know do you
hear the binaural beat or is it just something that your brain perceives is your question a little bit? Well, it does, but I'm still curious to know, do you hear
the binaural beat or is it just something that your brain perceives? Is it something you can
hear audibly? Like, for example, if could you have a recording of a speaker speaking a certain
message and you wanted to embed in that, that's how I'm thinking of it, you want to embed a binaural
beat while you're listening to the speaker and that binaural beat would give you that certain
brain response. So, you know, you would feel sleepy or energetic or whatever, you know,
whatever the thing is. Is that correct? That it's something that's sort of like a secret
message to your brain while you're busy listening to something else?
Yeah, yeah, it could be.
It could be subliminal if you think like that.
Because if you concentrate, let's say you concentrate on the left side on the speaker,
on that one frequency, and then you concentrate on the right side,
you go maybe over in the room physically and go to the right side,
of course you hear the right and left frequency.
But your brain, and that was what they mean with beat,
because the left frequency of 40 hertz, that's not a beat.
That's just the frequency.
That's just the tone.
But the beat is happening inside of your brain.
Yeah, that's true.
When you talk about the difference between those those and then
you see you even see that if I if I start my Gonyometer my multimeter
plug-in then I can see it starts moving when the second frequency arrives let's
say on the right side and that's the beat you know that's the vibration
that's the effect yeah yeah so if i had headphones on and no other sound no music no speaking no
nothing but only the you know the left frequency and the right frequency would i hear anything
or would my brain just react and i would feel no you you would hear you you you can't you um i mean
there are some frequencies out of our hearing range i I haven't experimented with that because I'm still in the
hearing process, you know. But of course, you hear the frequencies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You hear the
frequencies in summary as that 40 hertz when we stay at the 240 hertz on the left side, 280 on the
right side, then you hear the 40 hertz vibration,
you know, inside of your brain.
So there is something you hear.
And what I do, I produce soundscapes around that feeling so that you have some kind of trip sounds coming in and percussions coming in,
some singing coming in or whatever, you know.
But it's all based on that frequency.
That's the core idea of it, you know.
Okay, I'm getting it.
So it's like another dimension you can add to whatever else.
another dimension you can add to whatever else.
Exactly.
And there's also binaural direction,
which means you can go 360 degrees, you know.
Let's say some producers,
or let's say for cinematic effects, you know,
you want to have cinematic sound effects.
Far away in the distance, there's a bomb exploding, let's say, right?
So you have to have that feeling, and that's a binaural direction.
So you can go 360 degrees, you can go more in the front,
you can go in the back, you go on the right, you know, you get the idea, right?
Okay, yes, no, the implications and applications seem incredible.
Oh, yeah, It's incredible.
It's a whole new universe.
You know, it's crazy.
Really unbelievable.
Just when we thought we knew everything about music,
this drops in.
Exactly.
That's what I thought, too.
I got a little bit bored.
I'm not going to lie.
If you do rap music or pop music and all that stuff your whole life,
you're like, okay, is there something else?
And then boom, this came.
And I was like, wow, that's something else.
Thanks a lot for helping me out with that.
Oh, if anyone has any question, please, I'm here to answer it.
I've been in a process.
It was pretty rough in the beginning, to be honest.
I just created something without thinking too much about it.
But, yeah, now it gets into some directions, I would say.
And I had great conversations, by the way.
Let me share this.
We had some network meetings.
I'm currently in Turkey.
I'm originally from Germany, Berlin.
And I'm an expat in Turkey now with my wife living here.
And we went to some network meeting.
And there were some people and they were like, how can I increase productivity at the office with binaural beats?
And I was like, oh, my God, that is so bad.
I don't want to listen to that stuff.
But then I was like, nah, nah, come on, you need to relax.
It's not all artistic waves and crazy stuff.
There are some people, they want some use cases.
That's okay.
So let's talk to them.
And yeah, and he said to me, yo, I'm in contact with universities.
I'm in contact with hospitals.
They're doing studies now.
And we want to do an app.
And he told me the strongest effect on your brain is when you add light effects to it.
Because you can program lights to have a certain hertz to a certain frequency
right if it's faster
then it's a certain frequency
and it's slower
and if you combine
he said
I don't know I don't have to study
here maybe I can search for it
I never search for it to be honest
but there are a lot of studies
out about binaural beats
and light frequency techniques.
And he said to me, if you combine the binaural beats
and the light effects, then it's proven
that you can touch your subconscious with it.
So you can reprogram yourself.
And that's pretty deep you know and pretty strong and but they were too corporate to me i couldn't i
couldn't connect with them i i like to be free you know because like i said my approach is a little
bit crazy with that panic attack and it feels like channeling um it's it's probably the opposite of
of corporate and i want to keep it that way. I want to keep it free.
Everybody can download it for free.
name is here also.
I did everything
with... I have
no bad intentions.
I used the frequencies
I give you, you know, and not
anything else. And I checked
everything with my multimeter, Gonyumeter.
I checked it for myself.
So it's pretty important.
I don't want to give it someone.
You know, I want to have full control, especially over binaural beats.
For some commercial rap song, yeah, you can take it and do what you want.
Remix it and pitch my voice.
Do what you want.
But please don't ever fuck around with my binaural repeats.
That's very important, you know?
But yeah, there's definitely a lot of people working on it
and there's a lot of beneficial effects to it,
what he confirmed to me, yeah.
Oh, by the way
Edward I sent you a DM
because we're talking about the music
all the time I sent you my
SoundCloud link if you want to check it out
I also I forgot
to tell you guys I had
spaces myself and we had
music Monday was one
one idea of spaces.
I had different days with different purposes, you know,
because I'm a little bit hyperactive
and I need to keep some flows going and some new ideas coming in.
So, yeah, and we had Music Monday
and I produced Binaural beats for people live on Twitter.
People came in and I was like, okay, I have some frequencies.
I had some conversations with them before.
They had some ideas.
Some said, yeah, I want to manifest something.
Some guy came to me and I have really problems with my spine. I want something to relax me and where I can maybe not feel the pain because the pain is so crucial and so hard.
A friend of mine and some other people came in.
I was like, yeah, that's cool.
Let's have a conversation in the beginning,
and then I can research a little bit what could be the right frequency,
and then I show you some frequencies live.
That was the process.
So they came into my space and I was like, yo, I checked some frequencies and listen to this.
And then I showed them the left frequency side.
And then I told them about the brainwaves a little bit.
I was like, yo, I think for your purpose, it could be good to have this brainwave activated and blah, blah, blah.
And then they chose their own frequency.
Some liked it a little bit higher, some a bit lower.
And, you know, and then I started producing it electronically, basically with Omnisphere 2.
Omnisphere 2 has great, great, great soundscapes.
It's unbelievable.
And shout out to Spectrasonics, one of the best companies on the market.
And yeah, and then I produced it live for them.
And I said to them, I won't change anything on the structure,
on the arrangement, the length.
It was probably around 10 minutes, you know.
And now I learned if you really want to have a strong effect with binaural beats on your system, half an hour is the minimum.
And then your brain, what is dust in your brain?
is dust in your brain, it synchronized all your brain waves into one brain wave. For
example, you have 40 hertz, you want to access the gamma brain waves, then your whole brain
will synchronize. So that's super, super interesting, you know. So half an hour
is the minimum I read
in one book. I don't know, but
according to
my own experiences with
the binaural beats I created,
I gotta say that too. Yeah,
it's probably better to listen to it half
an hour because I was always like
make a playlist
of different frequencies.
And there's also combinations, you know, you can have combinations between brainwaves.
For example, if you have a high level of anxiety,
it's probably better to start with a higher frequency,
like a better brainwave, 12 hertz to 40 hertz, and then get down instead of going full baby mode.
That's the delta brainwave because babies and small children, they have a meditative
state of mind and everything you program or you tell them or you teach them, they will
learn it subconsciously.
That's why it's so important to have positive message for babies and I think up to two years,
you know.
So there's so many things you can discover with that stuff.
So yeah, so half an hour.
Try a half an hour and yeah, don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid.
It's awesome. It's really, it's awesome. I healed so many traumas with my mother.
I went to, when I was a child, my parents got divorced, you know.
And I remember always when I got in front of the court, you know.
That's one of the biggest traumatic experiences of my life.
When they asked me, where do you want to go?
You want to go to your mother or you want to go to your father?
And I was like, yeah, like what every child is saying, I want to go to Bose, you know.
And then they said, yeah, what's your favorite weekday?
And I was like, yeah, it's Thursday.
Ah, Thursday he's at his mother so
let's go he's going to his mother you know that's that's was basically it so I could I made a piece
especially with that purpose going back in time and connect with your inner child and that helped
me a lot that other stuff of course to calling my mother and talking with her, of course,
it was part of the process.
But, yeah, that helped a lot, the process in a totally different way, you know.
So I'm pretty excited about it, to be honest.
Your description of mixing the different frequencies
and mixing the alpha with the theta
and getting different effects kind of begs the question,
if someone were feeling mischievous or even nefarious,
could you somehow expose somebody to some combination
that could kind of mess them up?
I mean, if you have anxiety
and you go full into gamma brainwaves,
that's probably not the best idea, you know?
It's probably good to have it like,
maybe in the beginning, like I said,
maybe five minutes, seven minutes,
and then go down, you know,
instead of maybe going up,
going the wrong direction.
So there are definitely some things you can mess up.
Or you have a very low frequency.
One moment, one moment.
So let's say you're feeling depressive, okay?
And you start with low frequencies, you know,
that can even trigger more depression
or it can trigger depression
if you got something hidden inside of your system.
So it's very important that you ask yourself,
how am I doing?
I'm imagining a movie coming out about this
used in kind of a secret way.
I can just imagine the movie about this being used
and nobody knows what's going on.
And you know, like the stuff that was messing up our ambassadors in Havana,
nobody really knew them.
You know, something like that.
I can just picture the movie.
I mean, waves, frequencies and all that stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, the Harp the Harp project is based on that, right?
And I went to one website also about the
war machine fair, I say,
and I know it sounds very bad, but you know,
you get the idea.
And there were microwave,
yeah, microwave,
it was a mobile microwave
unit, so you can shoot
microwaves
into, let's say, say riots and then they will
split and they will run away because
it will be very harmful.
Even Disney, I had a very
nice guest at my spaces
and he has the first NFT orchestra
in the world. It's pretty awesome, you know, very nice project.
I had to interview him.
I was like, what the fuck is this?
I need to know, man, who's behind that?
And then he was some kind of wonder kid
and finished university very early,
I think in mathematics or something like that.
And then he told his parents with 21,
I don't want to do mathematics anymore.
I will be a conductor.
And I was like, wow, that's a crazy story, man.
And then he became a conductor.
And he has the first NFT orchestra in the world.
And he's working for Disney.
And then he told me, yeah, we're doing a lot of binaural beats at Disney.
I was like, oh, okay.
That makes sense, right?
So you can definitely manipulate people.
Yeah, 100%.
And in the supermarket, you know, hypnose people.
You know that, right?
When you have some music in the background.
And then you're browsing.
Yeah, go buy those pork chops.
What was that?
Sorry.
I said, go buy those pork chops over there.
Yeah.
To steer them to being in a different mood and wanting to buy lots of liquor or something.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, now if you look at Google glasses and all that,
right?
When they track your eye movement and stuff like that,
that's interesting too,
right?
Combine that,
combine that with some binaural beats,
sound effects,
and then,
you know.
We're doomed.
Yeah.
we're not.
You know,
I always had the idea.
They're shooting us with frequencies and they want to harm us.
Or some people, let's say some entities want to harm us, you know.
And they sound always so weird, you know.
And some entities want to harm us.
It could be the government or anything else or maybe bad people.
Let's say we're in a movie.
Let's do it fictional.
That's even better.
So we're in a movie and there's a bad party
who want to harm us with frequencies.
I believe we got some crazy antenna abilities
and we can change the frequencies from the source
into a new frequency.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
And you know that people are already planning these movies about this.
Combined with AI and binaural beats, man, you could do a lot.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had a web series on Instagram, very, very rough,
and we recorded because we thought, what can we do for content, you know?
And I was like, yeah, let's do a web series, man.
We are the superheroes.
We're fighting against the music mafia.
They want to ban music in our fictional city and stuff like that.
And the first plot was very easy like that.
And the second plot was like, now they're using frequencies against us.
You know?
And they're manipulating the people.
And they have one big star creating some crazy frequencies.
And that was pretty funny.
Yeah, but there was a little bit of truth in it, you know?
I'm not gonna lie yeah
yeah hey nice to meet you you are the superstar MMA fighter right right? He told me about.
No, it's not me. It's not you.
I thought it's you.
I don't know.
Yeah.
This is the lovely Esther, by the way.
Sorry if you just joined this debate after.
So yeah, this is Esther.
Go ahead, Esther.
I just saw MMA. I thought that's Esther. Sorry, sorry you just joined this page after. So, yeah, this is Esther. Go ahead, Esther. I just saw MMA.
I thought that's the...
Sorry, sorry, Esther.
Yeah, no, it's not.
So, the cognitive experts and the scientists,
they claim that 40 hertz bonyl beats is the best for focus and relaxation.
Why is that?
And are there other frequencies that could work the same?
I mean, you know, I'm also not a big fan.
I'm a big fan of self-exploration, I would call it.
Like discover yourself, you know, what kind of frequencies you like,
what kind of pieces you like.
It's always hard to say, yeah, that person, I don't know, wants to relax.
Let's give him some.
I'm hyperactive.
I maybe need a different layer of frequencies, you know.
And some people maybe need a natural activation to get their process starting.
So I would say try it for yourself.
Really, really.
I would say because if I read the books and if I read the theory, you know, about it,
everybody has different ranges of frequencies.
Somebody say gamma brainwave starting at 30 hertz.
Some say 35.
Some say 40.
I would say try it for yourself and maybe create something for yourself.
It's not so hard.
You can download some music programs and then have an oscillator and try it for yourself, you know, if you want.
So, yeah.
It's also focus and relaxation.
That probably means meditation, you know.
It sounds like meditation, right?
Focus and relaxation.
So if you want to meditate and be focused while you meditate,
be aware what you're doing, where you're going with your mind, you know.
That's probably a lower frequency, I would say.
But I don't know.
Maybe it's working for you and you want to see something, you know.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's true.
I have another question.
So we have people like Dr. Bruce Lipton who says when your brain is at the theta state it's the state of
hypnosis and also you get direct access to your subconscious mind that when you're in that state
you can reprogram your mind and change the programs and basically change your life so is
there a binaural beat that can put you in that theta state where the brain waves are in the theta frequency and you get direct access to your subconscious body?
According to the studies, I talked to one man who founded a company and stuff like that and building an app.
He said to me, you need light and sounds, you know,
to directly access your subconscious.
I believe you can do that with sounds, but that's just me.
It's a lot of work also.
If you access your subconscious and you want to reprogram yourself,
I wouldn't say you can listen.
That's a problem I have with Bruce Lipton people,
you know, to be honest.
Nothing against them.
Some messages are very positive,
but it sounds always a little bit like,
yo, you can push a button.
Maybe that's it in the future.
You take a pill and you can get rid of certain emotions
or reset your subconscious.
But it always sounds like, yeah, the push of a button, you can make some hypnosis and then it's okay.
No, I think there's more to it. I have more of a holistic approach, you know.
For example, if you have negative people inside of your environment or let's say in your friends, then you probably, that's a direct representation of your inner processes, you know.
bad food, if you still take drugs, if you drink too much on a regular basis, then you're probably running away from something, you know.
So I would say it's not only the binaural beats.
I would say it's the whole holistic process of your how brave are you to go that way to reprogram yourself because it's a lot of work, you know.
to go that way to reprogram yourself, because it's a lot of work, you know.
It's a combination of different factors to be able to reprogram your mind.
Yeah, because even, let's say, okay, let's say you have light frequencies
and you have binaural beats.
According to science, you can touch your subconscious, okay?
What are you going to do with it, you know, if you touch your subconscious?
Do you want to reset it?
Do you want to get in touch with your inner child?
Do you want to get rid of certain experiences forever?
There's a lot of questions only you can answer, you know, what you want to do with it.
And there must be a process behind that, you know, a deep process of understanding what is wrong, what kind of voices I have in my head, and are they harmful, where they come from.
You know what I mean?
This is a deep process, I would say, you know what I mean? this is a deep process
I would say
even if you touch the subconscious
exactly
thank you
thank you too, nice to meet you
nice to meet you as well
yeah well we're coming up on the final
five minutes I guess we're going up on the final five minutes, I guess.
We're going to keep it to a tidy hour.
I did pin something to the top.
It's a premiere that should start in about five minutes.
So that's nice synchronization.
It's something we're talking about a couple of weeks ago.
And hopefully we can come back to with Ken having seen animals by all time.
Well, there's a little Pink Floyd video launching in five minutes.
But coming up on the last video,
if anyone would like to come up and ask Mark a question.
But I've got one final question. You said you work with American TV networks like WWE in the NFL. I'm very curious about that. What was the
thing with WWE? Oh, you know,
NSYNC and licensing, everything sounds pretty excited when you
name drop NFL, WWE, Sky
or what else, man. But in the end, I
submit my music to some music libraries or to some companies.
And then two years later, I get a royalty statement saying,
oh yeah, it was played at the WWE, so I have no idea, man.
You know, it's so anonymous.
You know, it's so anonymous.
I only know, I only know one time I had direct access to some YouTube link from the NFL.
And then they used our song in there, you know, and I was like, OK, now I can see it.
And one friend of mine, he hit me up and he was like, yo, yo, they played our song at Love Island.
I was like, all right, man.
So it sounds more exciting than it really is, to be honest.
It's just sending some emails and some masters and call it a day.
And then, like I said, two years later, you see, oh, WWE.
Oh, Television Japan.
Oh, Pro Sieben in Germany.
Something like that.
It's really not exciting.
I'm sorry.
Wait, so, Michael, has any of your songs been played at WWE?
Because I'm a huge fan.
You're a fan of the WWE?
I was too in the 90s.
Yes.
I was a big fan. Yeah, I still watch. Still a big fan.
Nice. Can you hear that?
Maybe I have a song.
Does that mean we're done?
I think so.
Hey, Mark, can I ask you a really quick question?
Everybody that I meet, which is like only one or two so far,
who was connected with Germany in the 90s, is that you?
Oh, can you say that again?
Sorry.
Let me just ask you.
You said you were
from germany you speak german um are you aware of a 90s era um fairly popular german musical production um made by uh marco rima it's called keep cool oh i never heard of it but let me check because my brain is sometimes marco rima i'm only
mentioning i'm only mentioning it i ask everybody because i'm trying to find somebody who's heard of
it what's the name again of the song keep it's a musical stage show keep cool keep cool and i'm
just trying to you know find somebody who knows it it because I was my husband at the time did the engineering of the soundtrack.
Oh, nice. And is he a comedian also? Marco Rima is the comedian who produced and starred in it. But I spent a lot of time in the studio.
So I know all the songs.
And it's just fun to find somebody who knows it.
That's all.
I never heard of it, unfortunately.
But I think, let me see.
Let me see the images.
But I know Marco Rima, of course.
The comedian.
Oh, you do?
Yeah, yeah.
He's famous.
He's famous in Germany.
I know.
Do you know Gregory Wory vochter who also wrote
some of the songs gregory no no no i'm sorry okay just checking who do you know that's all
yeah i'm also the worst person with names so uh which is pretty bad in the music business because
everybody is dropping anyone and saying this saying that well this saying that i don't want to i don't
want to take us over time but i just had to ask you that oh fine thank you yeah yeah marco rima
is famous yeah i know him yeah okay well thanks for your time uh marco and thanks for everyone
for coming esther ken suzanneval, and also Mike Hinder,
who was here as well for a lot of it.
So, yeah, any closing thoughts, guys, before we close off?
Just one thing.
If you want to check out, the Binaural Beats is pinned up on top, right?
Yeah.
I tweeted it as well.
And I put it in the bottom right-hand corner.
I tried to pin it to the top, but at least on my phone, it didn't.
It's not showing.
No, I can't see it.
Everything is fine.
Oh, that's fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good then.
Okay, well.
You've taught me something.
Oh, never mind.
Never mind.
Nope.
Go ahead.
No, please go ahead.
What have you? Oh, I was just going to say, you're learning about the Binary Beats.
I know somebody who also works for Disney and is heavily involved in cutting edge musical stuff.
And I just betcha he knows something about this.
So I'm going to bring that up next time I talk to him. We'll have something to talk about. Yeah, I can also give you the contact, this guy, you know, the NFT orchestra guy.
He's pretty cool, pretty cool guy.
Okay. Well, my guy is Eugene Toll.
You probably never heard that name, but he's gotten involved with Disney doing crazy music stuff.
So I bet you he knows your guy that you know.
So I bet you he knows your guy that you know.
Yeah, probably.
We haven't talked about a lot of details.
He just mentioned it in a side sentence, you know, like,
we're also doing binaural beats, and then we talk more about binaural beats.
So you got me some really good food for conversation.
Great.
That's awesome.
Inspiration. That's awesome. Inspiration.
That's what we're doing, right?
Yes.
One love.
Awesome.
Okay.
Well, cheers, guys.
See you next week.
Check out the link, Pink Floyd Premier.
It should be starting now.
And that will be live on YouTube as well.
So, yeah, see you next week, guys.
Thanks a lot.
And thanks again, Esther, for stopping this.
Everyone take care.
Thanks, Ken.
Thanks for the invitation.
Bye-bye, everyone.
Nice to meet you.
Bye, everyone.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Bye. Thank you.
