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$NEAR Chill&Shill - AMA with decent.land - 5N giveaway
Recorded: Nov. 9, 2022 Duration: 1:05:10Space Recording
Full Transcription
hey what's up everybody kaizen consulting are we gonna have the MA with kaizen consulting
account or there will be also the the decent land account hey wax yeah cobalt is getting on from
the decent land account in a second here how are you doing got it got it okay so I'm just sending
the link to all the groups if you know while we're still waiting for more people if you want to start
but just give me like a quick introduction about yourself before we move on to the project itself
yeah absolutely thank you for that I'm Chris with kaizen consulting we are a web3 nft consulting
group and we help projects you know manage parts of the project that may not be inherent to their
to their skill set so we concentrate on marketing network liaison creating relationships
and helping to get the word out and decent land is an amazing an amazing project the arc protocol
is really pushing the boundaries of being able to link our identities across multiple chains built
on near of course that's why we're all here so despite all the market sentiments and everything's
going on we love you wax we're happy we're here we're ready to chill and chill bro
i love that energy man let's chill and chill so we have decent land with us already how are you doing
hey wax yeah thanks for having me here uh doing really good thanks this is cobalt the the founder
of decent land by the way okay cobalt nice to meet you uh do you want to give a quick intro about
yourself also maybe like your background kind of how did you end up in crypto and in this project
yeah sure so my background was in like um development and marketing in like web2 silicon valley software
um and so i did that for like the vast majority of my life like one of the first jobs i ever got was
like marketing employee number one at like a young
and i said twitter doing something to us let's bring everybody back up can you guys request again
okay i think we got everybody back right except decent land getting rugged except the most important guy
if you have to log or uh leave and then come back you might have to do that there cobalt
okay i mean that's fine let's see while we're waiting for him
um do you want to talk a little bit about like how can a synergy between kaizen consulting and decent
not land and what you guys are working together um so yeah um our relationship started a little over
uh a month ago um what they were building and had really just started to get pushed out to the public
and you know build the social media account um and the discord um and of course this this project is run by
amazingly talented developers um and they were you know looking for some help in the avenue of community
management and social media marketing and and i started back in near in november of 21 and uh
we started kaizen as a way to kind of help the projects put those pieces together we definitely saw that
community management um brand voice you know directive of how the founders and how the community managers
speak to the kid to their uh to their members you know um that that we could help so um that's what i
specialize in you know i've been in hospitality and food and hotels restaurants and hotels creating brands
and social media uh awareness about them and marketing them so i wanted to translate my skills
to web3 and a little over a year ago i threw in the towel of irl work i moonlight uh maybe a couple
shifts bartending here and there just to get out of the house uh because i am married for 18 years so
we all know how that goes anyway um i think decent land's back up here so let's get back on top of it
hey yeah that was that was super weird yeah twitter rugged me hardcore um okay let's yeah so thanks for
carrying that um my yeah so like to continue on with like what where i was at um yeah my background's
like in software startups is like one of the first employees usually so i've like been through a few
now um mostly like b2b sass startups um and often i held either a um engineering role or a marketing role
um in those in those startups and so while i was doing marketing i had like a side media outlet um at the
time this was maybe like 2017 and i was one of the first um people like independent journalists
basically to cover our weave um and so that was my like breakthrough into crypto like i i wrote this
piece about our weave before any of the big you know tech tech crunch etc next web places had discovered
it um and got like in on the ground floor basically with the founders by doing an interview with them
um then you know when the time came um for me to actually quit my job i had someone to go
to go to and say um hey remember this um i i i want to like you know leave my leave my job but
in in web 2 and get more freedom and i was offered the you know chance to come and co-found
are we've news um are we've news is like now the the biggest independent um are we've you know media
publication in the space um and we branched out to like create more products um on our weave instead
of you know just simply being a media outlet we we wanted to like use the use the technology rather
than just write about it um and so that's kind of like the the background as to how as to how i got
into crypto um probably you know a pretty early adopter as far as our weave goes but not not
particularly early adopter as far as like crypto goes um in general um i had a lot of a lot of a lot
of time in in web 2 software um beforehand um yeah and so i um met the co-founder of decent land
darwin through our weave news he was writing some protocols um based off of the art weave smart contract
language smart weave um and um we we you know hit it off and it came to time it came to the time where
he needed a public face of the company that wasn't afraid to go talk to investors um and since since
i'm you know i will accept uh speaking opportunities uh which is kind of more than most developers um i i sort
of got got into that into that role pretty uh quickly and smoothly um came on started handling
like you know communications um moved on to sort of like product direction etc there um and took
decent land from from what it originally was like supposed to be which was like a um decentralized social
media platform and led the pivot into it being an infrastructure provider force for companies that
want to build social infrastructure um rather than being the platform itself um and yeah a lot of that
is like around arc protocol like how do we go multi-chain with it um how can we you know break out of just
being um a platform and how how can we like be infrastructure providers for for for any sort of web 3 app
that needs social features and so that's sort of where where decent land is today um it had you know very
much humble beginnings and a much narrower scope um but yeah i think that answers your question
okay thank you that was a great great great introduction uh so a couple things first of all
guys remember we have ama so after around like 21 minutes we're going to start bringing people on the
stage we have a giveaway going as well so one of the people like a lot of people tell me they're
confused how the giveaway works here it's very simple like when the ama starts you need to request
to speak you need to come up you need to talk and uh most of the times then we give away a price to
uh just one of the speakers randomly unless we decide to do something special recently we've been
experimenting um there's a yeah get your get your notepads out write those questions down make sure
their quality put uh put put kobold under the under the butt exactly guys also like i know a lot of you
do it already but go to descent.land twitter check out their website see what the protocol is about so
you don't have to just come up for the questions for the same of questions but you have like a real
question because you read about it and now you really want to get more information so everything
is in alignment and most importantly retweet that pin tweet we only have 28 people honestly that's kind of
week for near chill and chill we gotta get more people in the building uh but with that we're gonna
keep going so do you understand right that you're kind of guys have like multi-chain vision but you
started on rv right yes so so like we we we were in the like unique position of like um being some of the
only original builders on rweave and realizing that it actually needs to be uh you know taken far beyond
rweave if we're going to actually build a social protocol that interacts with like where people
are where people are um then it can't all just be siloed onto rweave and so like while while rweave is
like an you know an exceptional um storage layer um and it also has like great smart contract capabilities
there are other chains that are like better at that right like near near was the near was the
um you know choice for for like rapid finality quick um you know quick interactions and uh smooth ux
um whereas rweave is you know a natural choice for permanent storage of data because it's like the
the only chain that that's like does that um you know there are there are some chains that like maybe
masquerade as doing that um but i think rweave is the only real proven one and so if you're going beyond
social and onto stuff like dow governance and like um you know more important stuff than just a throw
away tweet you definitely want to make sure that the the the infrastructure allows companies to be
accountable for like what they're doing and saying um and so having the promise of permanent storage is
like super powerful and also like really the only the only way that we that we wanted to take this
you know my background being in being in our weave i'm i'm very much like sold um on on the promise
of that um and you know um it's it's a fantastic like base level infrastructure layer and so the
multi-chain vision is like more more more so for like how can we settle data that is not on our weave
back to our weave and use our weave as an oracle um and so all of the all of the stuff like um you know who
what is your ens name or like what is your um you know your dids on various different places or your
your bio off of like a certain ethereum protocol all of your protocol activity should be able to be
settled back to some chain which can accept like large amounts of data for cheap um guarantee it's
going to be there forever and then also make it like callable from other apps as well and so that's
sort of like the the vision behind why we why we chose our weave in the beginning um but the multi-chain
vision is like you know just accepting the simple reality that not everything happens on one chain
um and shouldn't and there are you know protocols of insane value everywhere you look um and to be
able to aggregate it back um to our weave and settle it on a chain that the guarantees permanent storage
is um you know that was sort of like the the niche that we're filling i think
uh you know this is very interesting and although like of course i want to keep it more like
descent.land central and not go too deep into like our given basics of blockchain
that's very good information because uh you know on this show we mostly almost have always projects
that build on near so you know it's a great kind of like to get perspective somebody build on the
other blockchain also bring that information to the listeners i'm sure a lot of people here
who are not familiar with are we before and i see that you are expanding multi-chain like on your
website like near is kind of one of the blockchains where you're going uh before we move on from
this topic could you just give us kind of like a brief overview because i think most people here
are very familiar with near and not familiar at all with our weave uh would you be able to like maybe
compare them yeah sure so i think like actually they're very starkly different um our weave is slow
execution time uh when near is extremely fast are we view x is you know not natively great um but
near storage cost is extremely high it's something like 0.1 near per megabyte or something like that
whereas our weave is like you know a dollar for a gigabyte i don't have the fees off the top of my
head but it's just so cheap that it's like you know not not even comparable um and so you sacrifice
because our weave is essentially a proof of work blockchain um the miners have um you know the
miners are people who have got hundreds of terabytes of space and fast cpus um mining and duplicating
data onto their rigs um and broadcasting out to the network um across you know thousands of different
machines around the world right and this is the sort the sole purpose almost of our weave just like
how can we make data like extremely robust replicated and distributed um and so near is
much more focused i think on how can we provide users and developers an amazing fast ux for for the
stuff that they're that they're trying to do on their daps um and so they couldn't really be more
opposite and then for that reason they work amazingly well together like near has a um integration with
our weave via something called bundler network um so you can pay with near token on near daps
to upload your data to to our weave and near and bundler is like the bridge between the two
and so this this sort of allows people to to uh you know not even have to think about the back end
being our weave it's like the data from the dap is decentralized and permanent um
um yet the interaction layer is like you know as fast as near is so so yeah the the combination of
the two is is what's like super powerful in my eyes and and the and as for comparison you know
near near and our weave just have like entirely different focuses
this is great and do you see like um maybe certain like synergy between those two blockchains how
they can complement each other yeah yeah i think you know like i said the the storage cost of data
on near is like almost prohibitive to store large amounts of data so what we have is is is we push
it to are we first and then we store the transaction id of the are weave blob of data on near so that means
that like the maximum amount of data that we're pushing to near is like 40 something 43 characters of
data per transaction instead of actually storing the whole like blob of of uh of data on near which
is like very very very expensive like near is not not optimized for storage um whereas are we that's all
it does you know this is absolutely great like because i guess we all agree that you know multi-chain
multi-chain is the future and it's nice kind of seeing certain niches shaping up where different
blockchains are better at certain things and they can kind of like work together with
each other to complement each other um but yeah guys in consulting you wanted to add something i'm
sorry chase um is uh is that essentially you know for for those of us who who aren't technical is that
essentially what an oracle is is the ability for those blockchains to communicate with each other
and is that what decent land is doing is building the oracles in between these and and connecting the dots
yeah i mean actually the the front end of the application like when you go on a on a on a you
know a website that that is that might be you know powered by both are we've and near in the back end
it's the the website itself that's pulling the content down from our weave um the oracle part is more
like um you know how can we ascertain that this dot near address is this are we've addressed like how
like how can those blockchains communicate at all um and the only way that they can at this point um
is is through arc protocol which you know stores a reference to your our weave address and your near
address on both blockchains and it can be cross-referenced by by the contracts between so
that's kind of the oracle part of it um the the data storage part is like what i was saying that we don't
store the full data on near because it's too expensive and so for stuff like blog posts and stuff like
that you don't want to be storing like megabytes and megabytes of data and costing the user like
several near just to post you could charge them a fraction of a cent um but still keep it just as
decentralized but just relying on the best of both blockchains very very exciting sir
very exciting a lot of good information you know i love this spaces and i'm sure we'll have very
positive feedback from our community today on calling the quality of the space and the quality of
information education they're getting but uh here we have my friend agt here on the space and i think
he needs to drop some secret hints oh no the puzzle's been solved but this but we'll make a puzzle next
week and i'll include this talk but i have a question so you know people keep talking about machina
on near what's the difference between mac and are we and how do they do they work together are they
their competitors yeah i've not had enough time to look into this like i've heard rumblings of it um
i've not looked into the technicals of how it works um but yeah i mean if it has found a way to to
store large amounts of data cheaply on near then you know i'm going to be very very excited to learn
more but uh you know as far as i know um and not to diss the project or anything like are we is really
the only serious contender in the space cool just wondering okay thank you so i think it's finally
time to move on to what is decent.land we kind of like went through a lot of background context information
and our community is educated about our weave and everything that it provides uh so can you just
give us like a pitch what is decent.land why does it make sense what problem does it solve what does it
do you know yeah go on so it's it's uh i guess to give it to give an overview means to sort of explain
the the multiple protocols that that sort of like compose the decent structure so like at the base level
we have an identity layer um of decent land called arc protocol which is a aggregation of all of your
different addresses identities dot if names dot near names etc bios from various supported protocols
all aggregated into one id which is accessible via a master a master key basically so like if an app
integrates this then they know all of the all of your activity all of your nft holdings all of your
everything from from every different sort of chain and that is stored on chain on near and on our weave
um so that daps can do actual cross-contract calls to them um meaning that it's trustless and it's not
coming through like a web 2 provider um and so we we you know settle settle a whole bunch of identity data
back to both chains um via the arc oracle so that's like one part of it and then another part of it is like
what can you do with that where you can like build social media apps where you can you know sign up
with with arc protocol as your id and then you know you can bring your own identity to it so you could
you know assert yourself as this dot eth address on this protocol uh on this social um app that decides
to use decent land as infrastructure and it will be verified that you are indeed that that um you know
dot eth name even though the dap itself is on a different chain like for example we we do all
of our social stuff on near because near is so fast and so cheap for just like simple uh social
interactions um yet we are still able to you know ascertain that you are this person on ethereum who
holds a crypto punk and you know is a member of this dao right and so it like totally like opens the
gates to apps on any chain to be able to like use a user's history um in in as part of the experience
of the app if you wanted to do stuff like token gating or like token voting even you could use
astro dao um instead of your your your chains native thing um just because astro dao is like so cheap and
powerful um you could use that as your dao management tool rather than use something that's on ethereum
you're like not restricted to chain because the decent led oracles like know everything about you
no matter where you are um and so that's kind of the the vision behind like behind that that part
already works exists um the social layer the social graph like who are you following what did you like
what have you added to this all that list um that is also being built on near that's going to be a
composable component that can be integrated by any app on any chain um but they are going to be using
near sort of like actually as the interaction layer um and so like our first sort of target would be
would be near apps like um nft marketplaces for like this person did this thing this person can
comment on this thing um there there are like any any app that could have a social element to it
could integrate decent land as part of its stack in order to get that out of the box
and then also um you know interact with other chains in the process and so yeah that's like the
the first sort of half of what decent land is and the second half is that it is an integration
with astro dao on near to expand the uh dao tooling capabilities past just simply submitting proposals
and bounties um into a more like granular role-based um social experience where where there are where
there are more things to it than just you know simply submitting a proposal and executing a proposal
there can be conversations around it um we we you know have a vision that we could replace the
near governance forum with on-chain communication that can't be censored or edited or messed around
with or argued over because it's all stored on chain um and so there are a whole bunch of
different possibilities for it um because you know what what it really is is actually such a
general protocol that the use cases for it are like seemingly endless
so basically as it says on your website it's social infrastructure right so you're not building
your own social media app but you're kind of building the tooling for like immersion social
media apps to have you as a back-end yeah so the funny thing is like we we do we we did originally
reject the idea of like building our own platform but just to prove this out and to to provide like
a central home for it we will be building app.decent.land which doesn't exist right now um but we'll be
a way where you can you know go on sign in with your with your um arc identity which will prove you to be
you know whoever you are from wherever you've been in the past whatever chain and identities nfts etc
that you hold and then it can be like a token gated um token gated group community where you know right
now a lot of a lot of discords use web 2 tools to manage access to groups um that that provides a
single point of failure basically because you know um if it's web 2 somebody controls what the database
actually says um and it can be you know manipulated it can be it can go down it can be broken all of
the failings that we all you know know and love from from the web 2 world um you know can be avoided
by by by doing this on chain instead but there isn't actually anything out there that does on chain
token gating from any chain um it's always going to be pushed through some web 2 service um and so
yeah i think we will be we will be publishing our own social app just because that's going to be a
way to for us to sort of wrap the daos that are in astro dao um you know make it so that you can spin
up your own dao using the astro dao code um being able to you know then then publish stuff like you
know for for a dao to be able to blog on chain or to to hold governance discussions on chain um which is
you know not not actually all happening in one place right now like even even the big eth solutions
they all sort of do that sort of stuff off chain uh which makes it you know vulnerable and censorable
and so yeah okay that's a lot of interesting stuff uh does this not land itself like store a person's
identity it depends what you mean by identity like we we don't do anything on our own servers um if you
are to like maybe like a good way to explain it would be say say you have like a near address and
you want to associate your ethereum address with it in order to use your ethereum identity
on a near app um and you know access some token gated community some token gated features that are only
for people who have got like stakes dow tokens on some particular protocol um then we would store
that association we would store that this near address is this um you know is this is this ethereum
address and um and then you know it's sort of up to the up to the dap to be able to pull all of that
information from it past that um we don't we don't store like who you literally are like your name or any
of your personal information like we don't we don't have an interest in that really it's almost just
like you know who are you on web3 on all these chains and like that that's who you can be on on arc
protocol all associated together can decent land be like um for example if there's a social media app
uh could it be like one of the ways to log in to log in was kind of like your decent land
i don't know like whatever it's like it's called like an account or something like that
like i'm just trying to understand more deeply you know what exactly what are like some possible use
cases so for example so can i jump in wax yeah yeah go ahead so like in a simple way i think um
it's like if you're a near project and you want let's just use this as a a sample here um if you want
to allow bayc holders into your dow for a certain vote okay you can then have those things correlated and
those people with the ethereum addresses can be allowed into the dow with the with that on near
and be able to vote okay does that make sense like that's exactly right yeah sorry i draw i dropped out
but but i uh i caught that yes that that's a perfect use case yeah that's 100 makes sense and is it like
uh kind of the main use case that you see yourself uh you know positioning i i uh i'm gonna hop in here
again um just something that we haven't touched on and we've we've said ethereum name service a couple
times and you know if you guys know near you can obviously get your address you don't have to continue
to pay a registration fee for that name and that's part of like the frictionless you know adoption that
that we love about about near um but on the other side if you have an ens name or another name you
pay annual registration fees to keep that registered to your wallet um the the decent land guys are
rolling out ans are we name service domain names and those are permanent and on chain and once you link
that up with with everything on ar.page you can then link your ethereum wallet your near wallet your
binance wallet your matic wallet your everything all through that uh that interface and then you
you know um you're there with your ethereum or your are we name that is permanent on on chain right like
that's the master identity that you can then use to attest to other protocols that you are this person
that has all of this history on other chains because like i think a big issue is especially with niche
chains that you know like who are you when you join it and and um you know uh you you lose all of you
lose all of your like you know possible credibility that you could be used to vouch for yourself this is
like another another use case of it like um say you were to be setting up a social network where
you wanted to have like anti-bot um capabilities on it one of the part of the verification process could be
prove that you have got activity on other chains um prove that you've got six months of ethereum
transaction history and you've you know transacted 500 or whatever right like basically this this sort
of stuff is unbottable uh or difficult to to bot right and so um it sort of it gives an option to
chains that maybe aren't the chains where the mass of value is transferred um to to implement like robust
um sybil resistant bot resistant stuff as well on them
hey guys it's joanna from near nyc this is all really cool stuff and just kind of wondering right
now the whole wave of bringing web 2 users into web 3 is high and i was thinking you know kind of to
your point of having um that reputation and um and bringing with you right from one chain to another
for instance through decent land um past activities what do you think about uh you know
kind of evaluating and and exploring the possibilities from bringing web 2 identities and and kind of
histories into web 3 like let's say through instagram and our weave i know actually just
started a collaboration right with instagram to hold uh all the collectibles that people can
keep on their instagram yeah yeah exactly so so that is one point like i'll address that like meta
instagram point first so um like right now using arc protocol and using using decent land it is
possible for you to like prove prove your um you know prove your ownership of your instagram nfts to
any chain um and so so that's that's pretty interesting it doesn't just tie you to what i
believe they're using is just like polygon on the like ownership side you would be able to like bring
that with you anywhere like um it doesn't just have to be polygon because they chose polygon because
it's a cheap chain right uh cheap evm compatible chain um and uh yeah as for the other part um
like how do you bring your web to identity uh yes so we have integrated a tool called vouchdao um
vouchdao is a way for you to basically tweet a particular code at vouchdao um and you know the
fact that you did that then then like verifies your twitter account against your um against your
arweave address which then feeds it back to arc which can then tie it back to near
um and it sounds convoluted but it's all handled automatically by by you know by vouch down and
decent land our protocol so we are looking into more methods of like doing this doing this
verification as well like for example github verification like um how can you prove that
you founded this protocol and that you are the you are the address behind this thing like this is
particularly interesting like if you wanted to get like tips or donations like on chain um you know
through a social app um that that is that is like you know you can say i i am the one who actually
like made this code this is where like the the tips go to this is the verification for that um or or you
know any sort of web 2 protocol like that is adjustable um for us to be able to like pick up a signal
that then is sent through to you know arc via wherever it needs to go to um through vouchdao and then then
settles back to the oracle um another another sort of um angle on that is like obviously our on chain
activity is is like i i think you you're on chain activity is you know super important to to your
identity um and with these with with chains that are not as popular you just don't have that um and so
we we took like a more web web3 focused approach at the beginning uh but we are now you know discovering
that it's possible to to do stuff like this is my telegram username that can be encrypted so it's
not docked on chain um we actually do that already like it's possible for you to vouch for who you are
on telegram and for telegram app itself to then verify this telegram username is this ethereum address
or this are we've addressed or this near address um then we can run token gated telegram groups um so
that's like another web 2 integration um the the same with the twitter thing that i mentioned you can
you can you can have a verified twitter account linked to and near address um with our protocol
as well so so yeah we're definitely thinking about these these web 2 pieces as well thanks for the
question by the way that that's uh really thought-provoking okay thank you so much for the answer
um so i just wanted to ask for mind and then we're going to go back to john because my community lives
john they don't want me to talk they only want to hear john's voice uh so we'll uh let that happen
but uh i just wanted to make sure i can understand right so basically the main idea is that you can
look and combine all these identities on different blockchains like you know not identity of course
it's like a name and last name but whatever is like your wallet whatever you have there and like
combine it all together from all the different chains and then you can kind of like have different
use cases on top of that right you can like token get a group and uh like you log in with one account
but it's not only sees like your near stuff it's like your board if it's like an ethereum like that
example you gave it but that's kind of like the main idea and after that there's like infinite infinite
use cases because it's like so kind of like on the basic level it's so universal right so that's the
main idea and then you can use for a lot of different things yeah exactly exactly yeah you nailed that
um yeah okay that's great so uh joanna do you know how to uh like manage twitter space and bring
up people to speakers and all this stuff i do but please correct me if i am not doing it well because
i see that we have one request to speak right now do we want to start bringing people to ask their
questions yeah we have like eight requests right now and i'm sure there will be more uh so do you
think you could do me a favor because basically my community is mad at me that i didn't let you speak
today so if you want to kind of choreograph the whole thing was like bringing up the next person
letting them talk bring up the next person for the upcoming 20 minutes let's go get some coffee okay
everybody get their coffee and their questions ready everybody get some coffee but john do you think
you can handle that for me yes on my end though i only see that there's one request currently
from eb that's interesting okay i'll bring up then the first bunch of speakers uh so you don't have
to worry about that the thing is i'm also on the call right now and there's kind of like smart rich
people talking i want to listen to what they say are you slacking on us wax no i'm not slacking but
that's the amate part like i did my job i asked the question i was just a community doing their
part you're you're multitasking like the best of them i am working hard chilling chilling working
hard man but chilling chill is always my priority okay so uh we got age we got spark cloptar
ib with us so i think ib was here first i don't really remember let's start with ib and then we just
go in like whatever order and john i'm relying on you to kind of make this go smooth they're already
already already all on the stage so we just need to be like next person thank you next but hey
such a perplexing role i've been tasked with guys yeah but it's also a great opportunity for you to
get introduced to our community because you will have like conversation with each person who you bring
up on the stage you know establish a personal connection which is super important uh but yeah ib
go ahead with your question yeah i'm i'm already being off yeah we can hear you yeah um uh first of
all i would love to say you know a very good deal to everyone on this space because i know for sure
everyone of us have one or two one or two things to do before you know setting it aside to come for this
space yeah uh my questions in the go to the decent plan like basically what's your your your protocol
your your project if i use you know you know to integrate users data across every chain that are
you that user is yeah you know on or using at that moment because i'm kind of curious i want to know
what you know you say you say you are bringing you are bringing you know users information like you
you are integrating all the information like into a particular you know format that you know that
you can i can use anywhere i know you have your your interest address uh what if you also have you
know i have different you know identification or different mode of using my my blockchain maybe if
me for the particular uh name and you know credentials and the rest that i'm using for a particular
blockchain what if i'm using a different one because we i know we have we have we have fear that
they are not using just a single information across all blockchains some people you know tend to you
need to break up their information you know they could use one for a particular blockchain and then
and now for another blockchain that's my first question and the other thing i want to know you
know you said you are currently on uh uh airwave and uh because you you know it provides you know a less
you know gas fee and the rest uh compared to near and i i want to know since since you know you are
you are coming up you know to near what you know what you like do you plan to you know to bring
you know to make this protocol this project basically on on there on on the long run since you said for
now near is having you know a high charge compared to you know air wave so what do you intend to do about
that like on the long run do you intend to bring everything completely like once you know you
will rather be stable on there or you will rather remain on air wave so that's what i want thank you
okay uh so i just i want to make sure i caught your second question maybe you can confirm um was that
around the did you say energy intensive around our weave or something like this like making sure that
it's stable in the long term yeah yeah yeah yeah because you are you are very confident and sure
so how do you know how do you intend to do it like do you intend to you know make it stable
on the long run on their uh protocol or what you know are your intentions
right okay so sorry i i i hope i understood your question right um if it was around um
the i i i mentioned previously that our weave is essentially a slow proof of work blockchain
right um that is true yeah right and so the the i i suppose that brings up questions around like
the energy use on it um so yes it uses it uses a similar mining algorithm to monero um it uses the
random x um algorithm um the that that is actually being fixed in the on test
net right now um it will not be bringing our weave into proof of stake but it will be reducing the
energy costs and the setup costs of a node significantly like energy costs i think maybe
actually pierre um who is in the audience right now who is who is uh one of the one of the advisors
at decent land uh might be able to give more specifics but from from what i understand um the proof
of work nature of our weave is going to be negated by roughly 80 90 percent with the uh with the
introduction of the next version that they are launching are we have 2.6 um and so yeah that's
that's not not super concerning to me also um it's it's nowhere near like you hear proof of work you
think bitcoin uh it's it's nowhere near that level um even though it does have you know thousands of nodes
they're just simply not as energy intensive because it is designed to not validate the entire chain on
every new block mind but actually what it does is takes one random block and makes makes the the
miner validate that instead um and so so it has a far more lightweight proof even though it is proof of
work is more so proof of random access um which basically means that the miner has to prove that they
know one thing about the chain rather than that they can like prove the entire history of the chain
each block um and as for your first question i'm sorry now i've got track a little bit about that
could you repeat like the very core of what that question was yeah yeah i actually what the first
question i said you know what about the users that you know that don't you know usually actually i
think we're just going to keep it today one question per person because we have a lot of people who want
to ask i want to give everybody oh got it so yeah no problem uh sometimes we like accept two questions
but today you know a lot of people to go through so uh so we want to give the next thing to ahmad
huh what we say on my end i see that ahmad requested and that's the only person so should we give
milk to ahmad oh we already have like five people on speakers i see like you need to get used to the system
before we can go through with that uh so basically right now we already have like four people and
speakers who haven't asked questions yet to go through them first then we okay so we don't go by
yeah but i don't know the screenshot you sent me this looks completely different from like my twitter
app and i'm not sure why you don't see like everybody i see crypto king has got his hand up we can skip to
that yeah we'll just go to if we are equipped okay okay let's go okay can you hear me yes okay
uh security is most important things to consider when starting up a project or partnership how secure
this project for user and investors because there's been a lot of hacking issue can we get information
about your security system sure i mean the entire thing happens on chain so we inherit the security
models of all of the different chains that we that we use right and so so are we've are we've um has not
been hacked near i don't think has been hacked like from the base layer um i i i don't think that there
is actually like you know security issues to speak of there um the the great thing is that when you're
settling back everything to a blockchain um you inherit the security of that blockchain itself so like if
decent land were to get wrecked it would mean that the the entirety of the blockchain world would get
wrecked and you'd have much bigger issues all right thank you for that question that answer uh we're
gonna move to uh ib are you here with us now hello okay okay yeah let's go ahead with ib and i will go to
spark and clopter um thank you very much okay my my question is um what really cost my attention is um your
project you mentioned it's you basically use for um confirming like verification and maybe proof of
history of transaction of different people on different blockchain now i just want to confirm
like what really cost my attention is let's assume like there's a contest going on for people who have
on the algo starting transaction with like and required and required a certain amount of transaction on
different blockchain so um many people will like want to like maybe compete for that and let's say it's
a position many people want to compete for that position now is it possible for for me to use
your platform to like verify these people without their knowledge i don't know if you understand my
question like i'll be i'll be doing the verification without their knowledge so for me to be sure who
actually has the amount of the history or group of work are you really interested in i don't know if you
understand my question i think i do um so let me get this it's straight like for example if you were to
want to be trying to prove to an app that uses decent land that you do in fact have this sort of history
on ethereum or whatever um i mean the the way that i see it um you you all of your history is on chain
anyway it's just like all the all that decent land would really be doing is like determining a yes or
no off of that history right and so it's probably not like of concern to the user whether or not like
someone can see that history like just because it's all permanently on chain did i did i get your
question right or or is that like an oversimplification yeah you get you get the question
okay cool thank you ib for your question so let's move on to spark and by the way like i had some
feedback about like saying you know we bring up same people to ask questions and then like they win
giveaways so the thing is guys we bring up people in the order they requested so you know if some people
always show up in the very very very beginning of the space before the speakers will come they
request listen to the whole space then they ask good questions then obviously over time this will
be the people who you see hear more and who win more but that being said spark go ahead with your question
um hello can you hear me yeah we can hear you all right so um there are one what caught my attention
was actually the identity parts that you said we could actually create identity that could easily enable us
connect with um other blockchains so um would this identity have some sort of let's say like a
verification tab that would actually know that when we see we could actually know that this person
actually created this identity in a verified way yeah yeah yeah so so like um there is an example app right
now um so if you go to like this is this is like my profile if you go to kobold c k-o-b-o-l-d dot a-r dot
page um this is a social explorer for our weave um you can see there my linked um ethereum addresses you can see like my
profile picture that i have like verified as an nft you can see like my vouched status my blue tick
um all of this stuff is like accessible by a front end just because the oracle provides all of that
information so like i suppose like the question that you're asking it's up to the front end how they
display that information um whether they choose to expose that information about the user but like
regardless all of it is still like available on the oracle in like in in raw data format um and so
so so yes um it is possible to sort of you know see who to see um to see all of this data it's just
depends on how the front end chooses to implement that
okay sorry um the i saw you were um i think specific with your partnership with um um execution
machine so i want to know what exactly do they do what what do they do for you guys
yeah yeah so so like to explain that kind of requires a little bit of understanding about like
what the rweave smart contract system is right now and so like the original rweave smart contract
system is called smart weave um and that is a way to push um data to rweave based on certain conditions
so you know just the same way that a smart contract might work um and so you might want to um you
might you might want to change your bio on on a website right but you don't want to um have to
manually go ahead and like you know submit a transaction to rweave in order to like overwrite
that bio like the smart contract would handle all of that logic for you um but the problem is with smart
weave is that it's actually you know it's built on our weave layer one um exm is a layer two to our weave
which enables like really rapid um user-friendly transactions to be pushed through um and in in a
sense like that is a point of centralization like for the first 10 minutes and then it settles back to
our weave and then it's like not a point of centralization anymore um and so so it has its trade trade
offs um exm is essentially it's a smart contract layer two on top of our weave um which will do all
of the same computation as as traditional our weave smart weave contracts um but it will do them faster
it will do them you you can control all kinds of parameters you can make them free for users um
etc um it just kind of depends on how like how much control you want over it rather than like having
it bear pushed to to our weave itself yeah yeah thank you very much
excellent question do you wanna um has mbostef talked yet
i don't think so mbostef you're here come on up hello can you hear me the goal is
yeah hello go ahead we can hear all right thank you for picking me up to to speak uh my question
goes to the decent land i went through your website i went through the roadmap i've seen what you have
completed and what you are in what you are doing in progress and uh what you are going to do soon
so my question is uh i don't know if you also show us a proof of what you have completed or
what you are going to complete then uh again uh i wanted knowing if uh you have a story behind your
project do you have such on your website
yeah we have our our git book um and that pretty much you know covers everything that's going on
everything that we're building is open source um and available for you to take a look at um
kobold you want to jump on anything else did we already go through all the speakers who were up
uh from the education i think we haven't heard clopter and like adam speak yet right let's see the guys
have their hands up you're doing in the ecosystem whether you're contributing your
manager can you hear me yeah we can hear you okay go ahead go ahead many projects have problem with
ux and this one drawn of new users how do you plan to improve the interaction with new users
and with user outside the crypto space that's my question thank you
i think uh kobold's getting uh getting rugged right now sorry could you could you say that again i'll
see if i can answer it sir
uh i think we have him back at least i just try to brought it up
are you here with us kobold yeah simple because for lifestyle no he's he looks like he's reconnecting
hey i'm here uh i'm so sorry if you could repeat that i don't know what happened there with the
internet yeah can you repeat the question okay okay sir my question is many projects have problem with
uix and this one trend of new users how do you plan to improve the interaction with new users and with
users outside the crypto space yeah yeah yeah um to be honest we we're very much like focused on people
who are in the crypto space like our oracles are linked to your web3 history um we don't want to make
it more difficult than it needs to be and that is like certainly one of the reasons why we chose near
um you know i think that near is like the most user-friendly blockchain that there is it's like
super fast it's incredibly easy to create a wallet um you've it's just got everything going for it and
so so we we realize that you're on the back foot as soon as you need to like get someone to make a
wallet but at the same time if we don't have them make a wallet then how can we have them like link
their identity or like do anything sort of on chain and so like it's it's sort of a double-edged sword
there we don't want to like abstract it away so much that it makes the point of the protocol like
non-existent but we also don't want to like rob it in people's faces and be like oh hey you've got
to like fund your meta mask and switch your network and do all of this stuff that's like
super like unfriendly to a user and so so like that that's why near was was one of the you know
that's why near near is where we decided to build the majority of our user-facing stuff
um and that's kind of the best answer i can give like you know as good as near's attempts are to to
onboard the next billion users onto web3 that's it's the you know we inherit that power
okay thank you for that so i think it's 12 58 uh we're going to move to our last question then
we're going to announce the winners and wrap it up uh let's go to club tower i know he's been here
since the very beginning and yeah hello guys everybody who didn't get to go today we're going
to have a community space in one hour so there's also going to be questions involved there but for
now yeah club tower go ahead okay um i think you guys are the central land i think you guys are doing
a fantastic job you are you are you are providing us with with something that's that's been needed you
know for a very long time um but my question is actually about the domain name you said it's
permanent right so i just want to know if we'll be able to you know change the names since we own
the nfts and it's on chain so will it be possible to change the id at some point or is it permanent like
that right so i guess there are a couple of like layers and nuances to this like one is the ans
domain um you can't go back and edit that um that is once it's minted that is like that is permanent
however you can associate different addresses with that same you can associate different dot r
domains different domains with that address and then set that as the primary one and so in a way in a
way you can you can you know mutate who you are over time um with that mechanism um and also um on the on
the social network side of things say you want to choose your dot eth address as your identity for
that day you can set that uh you want to choose your dot near address you can set that um it's kind
of however do you want to associate it back to your to your actual user id um and that user id is is
honestly going to be something like five six zero one something something something on our back end
right um but how it's shown on the front end you can change it just just the same way that you'd be able to
change your username on twitter okay that's amazing so
okay so the the the id it's it work for all chains right all chains that that you build on it to work
for ethereum near and all yes yeah yeah um just for everybody we are doing an ans giveaway inside our
decent land discord um and i mean we all know how small you know names and and common things are
have been traded crazy on ens and like i said this is something that is only available in our discord
it hasn't gone to market yet if you win the uh contest it's running for the next couple of weeks
we mint the name directly uh to you and then that's on chain forever for you or you can sell it you can do
whatever you want with it yeah go go to our uh twitter profile you can see the discord join link
there um and you'll get more details once you do yeah come on in and say hello guys we'll look we'll
look for you in there thank you for this space wex yeah thank you so much it's it's been really
engaging a lot of curveball questions that have been fun to answer
yes thank you to everyone and uh looking forward to see all of the progress for decent decent dot land
um we'll definitely check out your your discord as well yeah we'd love to get on some uh some spaces
with you as well in the future if you uh are open to it and thank you for co-hosting on the spot and uh
wax just you know throwing you right under the bus you know apparently there's improvements to be made
but i think you did a fabulous job thank you so much thank you guys thank you definitely um in the
future we'll we'll revitalize the the co-hosting um jobs so i think that now that it's 102 we'll end
the space but uh like wax that i think in an hour there is a community ama and uh yeah would love
to continue talking with you guys from decent dot land so um let's right on let's get some thumbs up
in here if you guys had a good time and you can go ahead since you're co-host you can rug it whenever
you want thank you so much come check us out in discord appreciate everyone spending a little time with us
uh cheers everyone all right so bye guys yes bye okay oh she knocked off a co-host wax you're the only one
she rigged us hello
hi we're we're done with the space what's going on but wax is in here to hit the button yeah sorry hello can you
hear me yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm here to announce the winner the winner for this space is most dev
please um send your wallet address to my dm congratulations to you most dev once again
bye all right good job most dev thank you guys appreciate it
hey guys i had to get distracted for a second okay uh so before we end the space let's just announce the
winners um um yes um i've announced the winner can you just send me can you send me the list of
everybody who spoke i've announced the winner oh the dice i've i have announced the winner the winner is
mostly you already announced the winner yes okay i'm sorry the winner is most dev uh i'd already told
him to send his wallet address to my dm wait who won most dev yes yes okay most dev i think it's your
first time winning welcome to the community you know thank you for coming uh make sure you add him
to all our group chats and yeah guys next call is in 55 minutes we have actually i want you all to show
up for that one because that will be a really really good one this guy who invited for it he's like
really really genius i'm gonna have him give us like the blockchain 101 but like from a perspective
of super super smart person like after that after that space you guys are gonna be like wow like
that information exists like i know it so definitely show up i'm gonna make like a tour announcement
right now about it so you all can like retweet follow i'll send it in all our groups as we always do
so yeah i'll see you all in 55 minutes and thank you for showing up guys i'm gonna send that space now
goodbye
