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Neo Tokyo or Neo Ronkeyo?
Recorded: March 28, 2025 Duration: 1:12:21Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, key players from Neo Tokyo and the Ronin ecosystem explored significant partnerships, fundraising efforts, and emerging trends in the crypto space, highlighting a collaborative approach to growth and community engagement.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. yo what's good what's good what's good what's good people we in the building today we got a big show
neo tokyo coming through look you guys are here i'm gonna set the premise early i see the ronky pfps let's go and raid the out of this space today because i think that we
can convince some of the neo tokyo citizens bear in mind neo tokyo they got they're they're like a
a group of investors let's say it like that right if we can get them to see the light with ronky
today i think we could be
onto something big so this is going to be a big show make sure you guys are putting in
the groundwork for the raids and we'll make this motherfucker happen but yeah i'm excited i'm very
excited for today's show i'm gonna wait till my peoples pull up in here we start the show a little
bit earlier just to give you guys some room to get in. We got a funny story actually about how this show has come to life, has come to reality and some miscommunications which almost
ended up as a famous Gila rug but I'm glad to say that it is not. So we might have to wait a few
minutes here and there to get the peoples through but I'm glad to be here with you guys today.
But I don't know what's going on, man.
Ronke's coming back.
Is that what I'm hearing?
I'm hearing on the timeline that Coco Bear is doing a madness.
He's doing the mad thing again.
It's just...
The keys are just a fucking G.
We're up 18%, ladies and and gentlemen in the last 24 hours uh but in the
last four hours a plus 30 so it's pretty it's gone pretty crazy there is a green dildo candle
on the one hour time frame um so is ronky back bro that's my question for today but if you want
to answer that question of course you know you can respond to the original post that we put up here i'm going to bring the team through real quick uh and yeah like i said
excited to talk today i'm going to find out a lot more about neo tokyo they did join ronin
um and i think there's a lot of valuable insight that we can get from the guys over the team so
uh i'm going to bring through yo is bat ronky here we need we need we need a superhero in today's
show mr stark's in the building the bat ronky's here we should be safe ladies gentlemen the I'm going to bring through. Yo, is Batronky here? We need a superhero in today's show.
Mr. Stark's in a building.
The Batronky's here.
We should be safe, ladies and gentlemen.
The streets of Gotham are crazy, but we have our own Batronky.
How are you doing, bro?
Feeling pretty rough, but I'm here.
Got a bit of a flu on the back end of the winter, but I'm here.
I've got a mint later, so i couldn't miss the show and the
mint you know what minutes later can you because you because you inform us just the last last
last odyssey so it's having their guaranteed mint in one hour and then their first come first serve
is in six hours oh wow that means i gotta get up as well bro well you got to you have a mint for the you you you have a
wait list for in one hour as well so check the launch is that the is that the guarantee one
yes okay yeah yeah we're gonna have to secure that no sleep till we get that done listen we're
in the trenches man you know it's difficult times in the market it is what it is but we're in the
building uh i'm excited for today we're like the logic's in the building yo he's you've been playing
you've been playing runiverse for 24 hours right you haven't left the seat that's what i'm excited for today we like the logic's in the building yo he's you've been playing you've been playing rune of a for 24 hours right and you left the seat that's what i'm here
yeah well no i actually went to go work out wait before i get into this okay before i was a speaker
it was sounding a little bit low can like people in the audience if it's good you guys give like
thumbs up if it's like spam some emojis. If my voice is way too low right now,
I'm going to have to figure out how to turn it up, bro,
because we got to shout about today's show.
It's a big one.
I actually want to say this, though, in the early phases.
Huge shout out to the Neo Tokyo guys, Chronicle and Firestorm,
because there was some miscommunication.
I'm going to introduce my boy right here.
Thiemann's in the building, too. I know he said he's hungry before the show started might have like a
fried chicken wing in his mouth right now but good good eat good no no no we just we just forgot we
just forgot to join i know i know you said oh i'm starting this show and then like we just started
talking about random and then we just forgot my bad oh yeah yeah no that's cool it's cool i mean it's
payback for me being late to the meeting that i said right also we got uh thumbs up from people
so okay good good good but yeah no i wasn't on 24 7 bro i actually went to go do hot yoga with nelly
today yeah she's back is that time bro it's that time it's that time all right well we've given a signal out to
the ronky chat in the ronin discord um you guys can see it one of the announcements here coco bear
the man himself was talking today we've secured 1 million run to help support the ronin network
ecosystems growth through memes and experiments you can monitor ipaperhanded.ron for any movements, buybacks, incentive
programs, and marketing outside of Ronin. It's time to show what the Ronkey effect is all about.
So it's a big, big topic of this year. Ronkey has dominated when it comes to Ronin and events
and talking points. And we've been in a dead zone. Let's be real.
We've been in a little bit of a dead zone,
but I made a tweet earlier today from the Gilo account and this comes as well from the mouth of someone I respect highly,
which is Steven, saying that it is really a market condition.
Nyx was saying it as well, but it's not a performance condition
and the performance from the Ronkeys in terms of raiding
has been exquisite so if you're a ronkey right now you need to go call your comrades and say yo
is another raid happening right here and let's jump into today's show today we are hosting
neo tokyo now this for me is massive before i introduce the guys over here like i said i want
to shout out chronicle business dev over here and firestorm the project lead for being you know last minute available but here's
the story of how we got here today because i almost pulled a famous gila rug um there was
miscommunications and i was like yeah yo we've got neo tokyo first day it's great it's amazing
and we obviously hosted forgotten runiverse on t's great. It's amazing. And we obviously hosted Forgotten Runiverse on Tuesday.
After Tuesday's show, it was amazing.
Shout out to the Forgotten Runiverse team
and the guys that came through.
There wasn't really much communication.
I was like, this is a bit lackluster,
thinking that we got a huge organization coming through,
such as Neo Tokyo, on Thursday.
Like, let me type in the operations chat.
Hello, like, what's good?
Is this okay? Is everything okay? We didn't actually have Neo Tokyo booked in. So I approached
the whole week as if we had them locked in. We literally shipped to marketing saying,
yo, Neo Tokyo is going to be a big one. We're excited. And, you know, word to Firestorm
because he reached out in the DMs and said bro like who did you talk
to to make this happen and thank god that it turned out the way that it did and I'm more than
happy to welcome both of these guys here through from the Neo Tokyo team because we said the show
actually Firestorm said the show must go on and thank you guys for being here love to dive into
Neo Tokyo today and let a lot of the Ronke community,
Ronin gamers as well,
know a little bit more about you guys and what has happened over the last few
years with Neo Tokyo.
So our intro Chronicle was here,
prompted early,
you know,
big shout out to you for being here,
man.
I appreciate you and welcome to the Ronin radio.
Love being here.
the show must go on.
We don't play around.
We're excited about this partnership
and excited to talk to the community
and kind of share a bit about us
and how we get to work together now.
Absolutely, absolutely.
And we also got Firestorm in the building here as well
behind the Neo Tokyo account.
Thank you, my bro.
And welcome to the show to yourself as well.
Yes, for today, it'll just be me. He is occupied with some family affairs, but I have been in the
community since day one, managing a lot of our outreach and partnerships and can tell you the
whole story. Nice. That's something we're going to want to get into,
because I think one thing we were talking about before the show today, of course, Ronin is a
network largely of gamers, right? A lot of us came to this industry with that gaming narrative at the
forefront. So there isn't a whole lot of experience by a lot of people with the organization of Neo Tokyo and what you guys actually do.
So for someone, a community member that's been there for so long, I guess, from your perspective, Chronicle, what is Neo Tokyo?
Yeah, so Neo Tokyo has really evolved over time.
has really evolved over time. It's one of the first communities that had a riddle-based entry
into the community where there was a series of riddles by our founder Alex Becker and Elio
Trades where you not only had to piece these puzzles together, but then you have to excel
in different gaming tiers to actually get your citizen and get into the first 2,000
people to get into the community.
From there, we really established this ethos of don't ask what the Citadel can do for you,
but what you can do for the Citadel.
And that is what we call our home in our Discord.
And that is what we call our home in our Discord.
And the intent is really for builders in the space to really build not only utility to our holders, but services that excel the space and move it forward.
It's no secret our founders, Becker and Elliot, are really proponents of Web3 Gaming.
proponents of Web3 gaming.
And just like a lot of the folks that we've met at Ronin,
we really believe that this is the future for Web3 applications.
It's going to have the biggest traction for mainstream onboarding.
We're just waiting for these big hits that really convert that audience.
And so a lot of our citizens, our builders, our service providers, our devs, our content creators, all focus on this space.
And so a lot of our citizens are builders,
So that's Neo Tokyo in a nutshell.
That's awesome, Brody. It's based around communities, but then talent within communities and then finding a way to turn the talent plus the community effort to a well oiled machine.
And you guys have clearly displayed that.
You mentioned the big names, right?
Alex Becker, Elio Trades.
They've done massive things in this industry, grown huge as content creators as well.
But you also talk about builders.
You know, what's it like being in Neo Tokyo, being a citizen?
You know, do you guys formulate plans together?
Like, is there something that you guys have aspirations to build and there is like direct path?
Maybe open up to maybe an obvious route if you're involved in Neo Tokyo, but
for people in Ronin to kind of understand, you know, what is your guys kind of vision,
I guess, if we say for the near future now being here on Ronin?
Yeah, I'll share a little bit of history to kind of just illustrate how we got to where
we are today.
But when the Discord first opened up, there was no structure.
Becker and Elliot didn't have a stipulated structure where, you know, particular categories where things are supposed to happen.
All they knew is that they got very dedicated folks that, you know, passed this really, you know, Herculean effort to get into the community.
And from there, let us determine our self-organization and what we wanted to
accomplish with the community.
And so in those early days, our VC was running 24-7 with hundreds of people and all in very like very poignant and direct
communication about specific things. We had our news team so there was a news team that was
established early on that wanted to cover everything that's going on in the Citadel and
Web3 Gaming and was publishing newsletters on a daily basis. You can see them now on their Market Monday spaces that we hold every Monday.
That's well attended.
They've gotten amazing guests like Luca and a bunch of folks from the space.
So that's evolved over time.
We also had a group that wanted to build a Web3 focused investment vehicle that is available for
citizens and they established that and over the last two plus years we've invested over 15 million
dollars in different projects and gaming applications and DeFi services etc and we services, et cetera. And we continue to support the ecosystem in that way.
We also had folks that are interested in actually playing games, and that is the core of the Web3
gaming space. So now we have our own gaming division, NTplays, that you could see hosts a ton
of different gaming projects that's open also to non-citizens that can then join.
And we actually use that with partners like Ronin as a way to get players for early access or beta or builds
that then really get that visibility that we can push through Neo Tokyo.
that then really get that visibility that we can push through Neo Tokyo.
So if you're a citizen and there is a specific interest,
there's always an avenue to get that made into reality.
Yeah. Well, I mean, there's definitely, you know, you can take a lot of leaves,
even me, myself, you know, being in this space for a few years,
you know, building communities and seeing kind of how effective that they can be and they are.
But that that structure to make something really efficient, to make something quality, in my opinion,
like there does need to be an element of structure.
But I do have a question here, Chronicles, because there's a lot of similarities right we've been talking about ronki um within ronin and and
first question really is do have you seen the ronki movement oh yes it's hard to miss
especially in recent days after the announcement uh you guys came in ways uh we were definitely impressed uh by the support from
uh from all the folks on the road inside um so it's been it's been really you know gratifying to
see nice yeah yeah but it says there's a lot of similarities there between like the congregation
of people um and here like the difference here of course with ronky it is it's a meme right and now
neo tokyo never began as a meme there was always this kind of intention from what i'm hearing you
know to have a hard or a rigorous process to to get into the community in the early days there
was always going to be some kind of formulated plan of action eventually with the with the valuable
people you collect um what's your take on like the meme approach like do you do you think that
memes have a higher ceiling out of stupidity or like like what is your take on the meme approach
of a community um honestly i it really goes to the philosophy around web 3 right is web 3 the main core
philosophy is.
Can you still hear me?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We didn't lose it.
OK, not weird.
The main core philosophy in web 3 is you are building a decentralized community
that has a core interest or value on a specific sector or topic and then you know having those
community members flourish in that sector so whether it's Web3 gaming, whether it's specific meme culture,
and building IP around that meme culture, that's the reason why we have this space, right?
And so to me, like, yeah, a lot of people downplay the meme sector in Web3, but i think if you build a rabid base and population that is truly behind a meme and
pushing it forward like that carries a lot of weight like i mean look at how well associated
you guys are with the the like entire ronin ecosystem uh and that's that's amazing to see
system uh and that's that's amazing to see yeah no for sure it's been a spectacle okay
bronchi was dead the meme itself of us going back to tamar we're failing because today we're bullish
bro we're pumping i don't know what's happening uh well we do know what's happening cocoa bears
in the building but we're trying to get back to tamar i don't know if you have any advice for us
chronicle to go back to tamar but you know we're still trying to figure it out over here as blue monkeys but now this is a really i think there's a lot that can can be learned from from this conversation
here specifically i mean just you personally chronicle like how has your journey been within
neo tokyo i mean you would have come in as a community member and now you know in a position
that you're in i mean i'd like to hear i'd like to hear that story, to be honest. Yeah, yeah, I don't mind
sharing. Yeah. So, I mean, when we all, like I mentioned, when we all came in, no one really
had a role or no one was designated a team member. It's just you picked up a flag and started moving
it down the field. And so I was interested in cloud management, reaching out to other communities
and building out a network and
getting opportunities for citizens. So myself and others, we started our outreach team.
We, you know, built a process internally of, you know, this was before Alphaba, right? So how
raffles were going to get done, how people were going to be rewarded, how you're going to weigh opportunities for our
season one citizens and our season two citizens or outer citizens, as they're called.
So built out that infrastructure. Then from there, started building out bigger partnerships.
So a lot of our partnerships that got some of our IP integrations into specific games.
that got some of our IP integrations into specific games.
Yeah, there's a few that are coming in the future
and a few that will be working with Games on the Road
and Ecosystem as an example.
Then from there, Becker and Elliot started, you know,
wanting to give more autonomy to the community.
So we started building our first community council and the community
council was built, uh, uh, for different division leaders.
So our news division leader was part of the council myself with the
outreach division was part of the council and our dev division and so on.
Council and our dev division and so on.
And then over time, Firestorm was hired directly by Becker to be our project lead to really oversee all of the function around Neo Tokyo.
And then slowly built out the team from there. position I was hired in just recently over a month and a half ago but really
been actively doing this role for the last three years to really build it out
for NT. Yeah I can relate to that a lot of the space you know opportunity
kind of you build it yourself a lot of the time by by doing things like from a uh a more powerful core
than monetarily itself right like you you you kind of find yourself you know putting energy in and
and um trying to to create environments based around something that you you you just love to
do or you're passionate about and you see the effects
you want it to happen and you know then positions and more sophistication around the thing you're
doing actually follows you in this space so that's the message to anybody that's in the community
within Ronin within whatever community that exists here in Ronin and beyond you know really
and truly if you're you're willing to put in some work
and stand by a vision and offer value up front,
a lot of the time you'll see that catch up to you in the future.
So congrats as well on that recent hiring my bros.
That's an amazing position to be in right now.
As this dev lead, though, where do you now lead?
Obviously, Ronin, it's happened.
It's here.
There's a lot of avenues where they intertwine gaming, for one,
and then obviously developers being able to now dev on Ronin.
Is there much talk within that community about development on Ronin?
We've been trying to push DeFi recently.
We hosted Alpha Growth last week and Compound Growth.
We've had Liquid Run recently.
I wonder if there's any DeFi talk going down
in Neo-Tokyo right now around Ronin.
Yeah, so I guess the way I can frame this
is essentially what the partnership is with Ronan and how he came to be today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So just to illustrate it for everyone.
So, you know, Jihoz and Elliot knew each builder's haven for anyone in the Web3 gaming space.
And so we have a lot of builders, but not a lot of them have inroads to a lot of the major ecosystems in the space. first ecosystem that we really wanted to work with where then we can have this priority access
for citizen builders to the Ronin ecosystem grant process as an example. So any builders in the
community that wanted access to some of that funding, you know, be able to reach out and
get kind of priority review. Other opportunities, whether it is our assistance to help support fundraising for
projects building within the Ronin ecosystem or Ronin ecosystem projects that are already
fundraising that our team can look to invest a ticket in. So as a two-way street. And then
the other major one that we've already started is really with our
NT Plays division so getting gamers to play Ronin projects so Forgotten Runeiverse and Fableborn
obviously had you know huge uh releases this week and our NT Pl plays team already has put campaigns and,
uh, um, you know, streaming it, uh, on our accounts and,
and so on through that, this relationships are really helping each other in this
co-mark marketing aspect.
Yeah. Nice. I like that. NT plays. I just saw them in the audience as well,
but, uh, just sharing a post here. So if anyone here today wants to go and,
uh, check them out and follow along and help support that course then 100 let's let's uh let's stand behind
it i wonder my co-hosts my peoples uh have you guys got any we found out a lot of really
information bro you got any uh inquiry yeah i got a question what is uh what's your favorite type of game or like genre of game
that you like playing for me personally it's anything souls-based give me a good uh elden
ring or uh second row and i'm i'm i'm all about it well that's uh that's tough out here in web 3 though
Well, that's tough out here in Web 3, though.
Yeah, yeah.
There hasn't been really a good Web 3 kind of translated version of that as of yet.
Yeah.
But, I mean, if you ask me my favorite Web 3 game that's on my radar right now, it's actually a TCG game, Project O.
Oh, we know.
We know Project O.
We know Project O. Oh, we know. We know Project O. We know Project O.
Yeah.
So that's one that we've been, you know,
been lucky enough to try it out and really get our hands on it
and talk with the team for a long time.
And I think it has a really good shot to be one of those games
that stands out from the space.
You guys-
Projecto's the best, bro.
Like literally, that's what everyone was playing at GDC2
at the then and I had a blast.
Let's get away from TCGs.
And then one comes in a space that now everyone
is raving about, right?
A lot of the creators and folk that do have access to the
game early on they're like i've not seen reactions like that in this space for for a while you know
um so it does make me think okay well there's got to be something here because the narrative at one
point was like yo let's do something more than a tcg and then now a tcg comes in that everyone's
like no but this is actually the shit so So, you know, a lot of anticipation around that.
We obviously want that here on Ronin, like that's cherry on top of the cake of things
that have happened right now.
And obviously there's a ton more that will.
We actually spoke to Cycout whilst he was at GDC and we asked him that question.
We said, you know, if you could, are you interested in Project O?
We said, you know, if you could, are you interested in project?
Would that happen?
Would that happen?
His response was actually, you know, what it was.
It was a good response from the perspective of someone that's, you know, been in Ronin, been here for a while.
But it was surprising.
As he said, you know, he wants to work with teams and projects that are here to kind of build, but actually will put the community first and kind of benefit the community as a priority.
They want to build for community.
So, but they wouldn't, unless they're the state or anything, they wouldn't be spending
tens of millions on a studio just to come here.
So you've been in that space.
You probably taught with projects, especially as a business dev lead? Like, is that crucial for a lot of these games?
Like, you know, to get like a,
because it's a big check, bro.
It is a big check.
I mean, would you, could you see Project O on Ronin?
Yeah.
The way that I see it is that ecosystems
have really moved from the, you know, buy out or invest in a project early
on to get them to build on our ecosystem into more of this co-marketing campaign relationship
where the ecosystem is providing a budget for the marketing campaign based on kind of milestones
that the game achieves.
So this way, it's attractive to the projects because you're going to get this big boost in visibility by working with this particular ecosystem if you build on it.
But it also safeguards the ecosystem because the project has to achieve these milestones in terms of traction, numbers, UA, you know, day seven retention,
et cetera, that then really gets, you know, it's symbiotic basically.
And I love Ronin for the sense of the gaming projects that are building on Ronin have this
this great retention capability for gamers, right?
great retention capability for gamers, right?
Like we have all of these games that get hyped,
you get the hype cycle going, launch,
you get some players in, and then unfortunately,
things die off fairly quickly.
But I mean, you know, look at Forgotten Runeiverse right now.
I mean, that game, I was able to...
Actually, I got to work with the team back prior to the launch.
And with the rings mint back in the day
and then getting all the players after that mint in,
like, that's incredible.
So, yeah, for Project O,
I mean, I know that there's no ecosystem chosen yet, so it's anyone's game.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, we keep sending that message out there into the ether that we hope to see Project O on Ronin.
I think it would be a really great choice, like, if you're looking for volume of users and then retention.
Like, if a great TCG does come to Ronin,
you got to look at it like this, right?
One, Axie Infinity, which, you know,
there is things like Parallel
and maybe other TCGs of credit that do exist.
But in terms of a TCG game in Web3,
like Axie did that shit.
You know what I mean?
Like they dominated.
So you've got a lot of familiarities with players
already you know existing within this ecosystem and here today and and you know like you said
in other games and even other genres that retention has kind of you know exceeded itself
it's happened in multiple different projects so if you were to bring an a1 tcg2 ronin
and you've got people like Logic,
you know, coming back from an event saying,
bro, no, no, this is it.
You've got people like Theban1437,
who, by the way, was the best Axie Infinity player
in the world at various moments,
you know, saying that this is, you know,
this is kind of a cook, bro.
You've got so many people that will lead that charge,
and I think it would be
the best decision but of course i'm biased look at me i'm a fucking ronky out here on the ronky
radio bro so but at the same time it would be an amazing thing to see that's pretty pretty cool
um i got i got a question uh sorry magila yeah go go go go as for Neo Tokyo do you guys
plan to I know you said like it's
a game you guys got your eyes on like do you plan
to have like an esports
team or something of that nature
considering that you know Project O
is a game that they want to have an esports
around and you know
attract
some kind of like
watchability right for competitive gaming and stuff
yeah i mean uh uh all i can say is that our nt plays team is absolutely gonna be involved
uh there's no question about that um to what capacity we'll see once things launch and on
uh where things move there.
We actually have quite a number of citizens that actually have their own guilds. And we have a couple teams that are doing pretty damn well in the off-the-grid leaderboards
at the moment in previous tournaments.
So, yeah, essentially any gaming tournament that's out there you will
see us involved in one way or another vr citizens or as an official uh team entry yeah it's a great
question actually you know with with neo tokyo plays uh coming into the fray and you guys having
that game like a gamers congregation also an open funnel from, you know,
public and people that just want to get involved. It would make sense.
I just don't think the market is there right now.
So it's always a tough sell for me to talk to games,
especially web three games to be like, yeah, e-sports.
And it was actually something I was pondering on at the beginning of the
week. I think I spoke to Stark about it.
And like I really was driven to make um some content
around the comparison of web 3 to web 2 when it comes to competitive gaming uh and it was sparked
by a youtube video that i tuned into where pokemon were actually documenting uh certain players like
going through the process of competing in worlds which which is their greatest esteemed tournament, right? And like the numbers of participants in the number one media franchise on the planet,
esports, is actually really low compared to like other esports in Web 2.
But then where would you pin, you know, the next best Web 3 game in proportion to, you
know, the whole chart of like who's watching esports and where
does esports matter right i don't think that the market is there yet but it's definitely if if it
if it does get there we already know payment rails with web 3 are going to open the floodgates for
you know even pivots for actual games whether they don't take their entire experience on chain
they can actually leverage the esports side or the tournament basis on chain too.
So shout out to Chris Gonzalez at Community Gaming as well, because they're already building for that future to make its way here.
There's so much going on right now.
I always have guests here and want to talk about this.
But in terms of that, along that conversation of like,
the market is not there yet.
I wonder, Chronicle, you know, within Neo Tokyo,
there is definitely an investment aspect, you know,
to you guys as an organization.
What's the takes right now with market really and truly?
I know we're here to talk about Neo Tokyo and Ronin,
but I'd love to hear like kind of where the mindset is
within Neo Tokyo and maybe open this conversation up
to people who might be a little kind of confused
or questioning their own approach.
And maybe Neo Tokyo is an answer for them to get involved,
by an outer citizen or by a citizen itself and get into that community so that they can bounce their thoughts off of different
individuals. Yeah, yeah, no. So in terms of like the investment side of the space, we actually
have two services that are really involved in this. One is one that actually I manage, which is called Rengo, which essentially is, you know, over our history, we really built relationships with all the major VCs in the space, all of the launch pads, all of the private investors and angels. So we built out this network where we really learned our investment thesis,
what they're looking for, the types of projects that they're interested in,
tokenomics that they're looking for at this moment.
And then we field projects that are looking to fundraise
and then build out these connections in this matchmaking service.
So that gives us a lot of insight into really both
who's fundraising and then
who's actually getting capital. And what you're seeing now is really like a year ago, you
had this shotgun approach. Everybody was able to raise any like ridiculous amounts of money
because the VCs were throwing a ton of money across a large number of projects
to fill out their portfolio, right?
Yeah.
You know, and some of that panned out, some of it didn't.
But what we're seeing now is it's more of a sniper approach where they're really picking
projects that they have super high conviction in, but then speaking with their money.
So putting larger tickets in, higher conviction in.
So that's really what we're seeing.
So for gaming, the reason why it's relevant to gaming is that
the days of, you know, hyping a build out that's really early alpha,
that hasn't launched in a soft launch process,
that hasn't gotten traction or
metrics yet, I think those are done. I think the projects that get enough capital to start
getting a soft launch, getting like play test metrics that, you know, day seven retentions,
early UA strategy input done, whether it's mobile or console or PC, and then getting like a series B in,
which then like grows from there to get them the full launch. I think that's really where
most of that money is going to come in. For us as NT, just to cap this off,
cap this off um you know we are relaunching our investment vehicle that allows citizens to invest
and some alpha for you guys there's also going to be a process for non-citizens to invest in
these projects as well uh so you'll hear more about that in the next few weeks nice hey that
is the best way to cap it off right there but no that's uh that's great insight as
well for a lot of people like understanding even the market right like the the approach and we
always have to kind of look to really and truly bro where's the money coming from right like like
how is value going to come into this industry where does it come from and the analogy that
you gave you know the shotgun approach has to now a sniper approach is is like what you can see and you know I've grown in this industry over the last four years
to be able to see that too and uh that's a a great take I'm thinking bro I might have to get myself
in the into the citizen society the way this is moving but one question I think is good here for us right now Chronicle um I want to do some cross pollination
for sure because there may be you know strong community members that come to your mind when
you think of Neo Tokyo and people that you know within that community you would absolutely
you know want to follow on social media and kind of see their content and um you know have access
to them uh I guess we can do, let's do a little,
it's not really a game, but let's do a game.
We'll do one for one.
Let us know of a community member from Neo Tokyo
that you think, you know what, you guys,
you definitely should tap in or go and follow this person.
Give us a reason.
And then I'm gonna go through my co-hosts here
and let them give one person from Ronin
that you guys, if you're on the Neo Tokyo side, should tap into.
You want me to start?
Yes, yes, take the floor, take the floor.
Give us the, I need the Neo Tokyo alpha, bro, that's what I'm here.
I don't know if you can feel it, I need the alpha, bro.
Who in Neo Tokyo is cooking?
cooking. Yeah, man. Well, I guess one thing, you know, I'm gonna cheat a little bit, but
Yeah, man.
if you go to the Neo Tokyo handle and you go to our bio, you'll have an updated list of our entire
team divisions, our community council. All of these giga chads are easy access. All other DMs are
open. So definitely shout out to any
of those folks especially if you're interested in some of the services that
they're putting out there but yeah I got to steal this bro I got to steal this idea
this has to happen wait you gotta be like okay wait you don't have like the the the full-on organization
verified tick like it was behind a huge paywall i don't even know how i would do that man this
one's saying dev friends are the best friends sometimes but i'm we're gonna have to steal that
one over here lads i'm not gonna lie we have to start putting people's names on it on a board
like this yeah look at the structure it's definitely just gives lay of the land for everybody.
But, you know, for me, I mean, all of these folks are amazing.
So really you have, I can speak about them forever.
If you're looking for merch, we have our boy, Crasher, who's been in that space for a long time and now has a merch service that's available for all communities. So whatever project that you're building for and you need merch,
give him a shout out. Our dev lead, Felix Norton, former Amazon, former Twitch,
like the architect behind some of the biggest AI projects that, have heard of. I'm definitely sure of that.
And he's our dev lead at NT, just a complete whiz.
Our accelerator lead, AJ, Blockchain Meta,
marketing like whiz for the last 15 years.
And, you know, you tap his mind and he can show you kind of the best ROI
for a kind of marketing dollars
uh our ama and podcast lead ben gothard uh he's actually my partner at ringo as well
just recently got married on his honeymoon but still working his butt off so there's too many
people shout out yeah oh yeah man it definitely looks like uh a well-oiled machine a lot of value a
lot of great people in there so i'm really happy that you guys you know have chosen to to partner
up with ronin and to to add that to the many of ecosystems that you guys uh have you know
association with and i'm really looking forward to see how you impact of Neo Tokyo can take place here in Ronin,
whether that's building community basis, content, or even development, and so on and so forth.
So really, really happy that you were able to make it here today, Chronicles.
I wanted to just say thank you.
At this point, there is some conversation to push about this week.
We've had OpenSea, Runiverse, as you know.
But I wanted to give this moment today, if if there's anything that you kind of want to get across, if you could say
something to the Ronin community from yourself or from Neo Tokyo as a representative, the floor is
yours to do so. No, I appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, really, to keep it short, my DMs are open.
I mean, we really want to not, you know, throw out partnership announcements and let things kind of die off.
We want this to be a true partnership where we're really supporting each other's communities.
So if there's any of the things that I've discussed today that is of interest to you guys, even if you're not a citizen, feel free to reach out.
We'll see how we can support
each other build it out get that service going and then flourish in the space together absolutely
what a time what a time yo it's all the wrong keys that pulled up and pulled through as well
uh chronicles is amazing if you want to continue joining this conversation as we go i'd love you
to be a part of it you know we've got things like open sea to talk about um and and your take on that would be we'd greatly appreciate it but i do want to turn towards our beautiful
blue monkeys right now um what like what is going on like demon i know you're a chart watcher have
you been looking at the chart recently because there are green dildos happening as we speak
i saw that i i ralo was like messaging me he's like see I told you I'm like what you told me
what I don't understand then he showed me a screenshot of like Coco's tweets and I was like
oh cool let me go check Ronke and I see a big giant green line like right down the middle I'm
like what the fuck is that and then I saw like it was like a massive buy and then other people started funneling in and buying wrong k and like i think uh i think there's
going to be a start of something really good uh you know the long case have been waiting for the
next rally right market conditions are looking a little bit better right it seems like people are
becoming a little bit more risk on so i think it's a good time yeah absolutely
it was the coco announcement though right like what are we thinking one million run to support
growth he didn't specifically say it was all going to run killer let's be real um but we're seeing
some effects of that now uh anyone surprised by this any wait first of all any cheaters logic star jeetan question mark
dude i've been in i have not sold my initial from the beginning bro i'm a cult member at this point
i'll be honest i'm tempted to put my whole run back in now at this point now that we've seen
it now that the bottom's in so i think bottoms in bottom's in. I mean, bro, shout out to all the
fucking Ronkeys that
held it down. Like, shout out Sushi Nobi.
Shout out Rollo.
Shout out, you know, Makikam,
Dino-G, Zam.
I see you guys. Like, Sushi Nobi.
I think I already said
Sushi, but I see you guys in the audience
right now. Like,
you guys who's always in a rocky chat
and keeping it together it's good man like yesterday actually was like we had to do a
serious talk yesterday i'm not gonna lie like yesterday we were like trying to cook something
up i'm like dude you know rocky is dead it's kind of like this funny haha meme sort of thing right
but i think like the strategy needs to change like it can't be like this funny haha meme sort of thing right but i think like the strategy needs to change
like it can't be like this uh super negative thing anymore to where like people are getting
scared like i know it is the meme and maybe like if you're internally in it like you get it but
think about like some random ass noob who is like yo let me get in here and then they get into
rocky chat and everyone's literally saying rocky is. And they don't get the same humor.
Right?
Like, we're actually cooked at that point.
Yeah.
You know, I think I saw someone write somewhere that Solana memes are like real memes.
Right?
Because anything like worldwide, international that happens, like, pretty much they put it up as a meme.
Where, like, all these chains memes are like kind of inside jokes.
Yeah. Or is it anything else? That's that's so true bro that is so true i like i like the thought or the idea of like how to make it more or how to like you know market it as something more global right like international
everyone can get involved with like uh CAG is a pretty good one. But, you know, I think
Ronke obviously has, like, good
we get it, but how do we
how do you show that to everybody else?
Like, in a narrative kind of
maybe we can get Sushi and Ralo up here too.
I think so, dude.
I think we should get Sushi and Ralo, bro.
I think, like, these two guys
they were fucking holding it down to Abra as well.
I don't know if Abra's in the chat,
but Abra leafy man,
like you guys have been holding it down.
Like I remember I was a GDC,
right?
I would just check like Rocky chat sometimes.
And I'd be like,
guys,
I have alpha just to fuck around.
Right.
I'm like announcement.
I have alpha.
And like,
like I give him like two hours to cook it
up and they were like yo logic came in here just to say that and just to leave like what the fuck's
going on yeah um yeah it's still pretty fun in there man nix has been teasing us with announcements
for months and if you go in the wrong picture right now and read it and see what the hell this
guy just said it's wild i'm actually dead i can't take it right sometimes invite them up here bro invite them up i have but chronicle these are some people in in the
ronin community who have you know um sushinobi actually is the the person behind the nft itself
if you see on the ronin uh market um he ships that of course with a lot of help on community
but if sushi was not there it would not have happened um ralo has been an advocate from from the jump puts in a lot of effort grind
ronkifying hundreds and hundreds of people logic turned into a microsoft paint artist and you know
because it was this kind of community coming together but with no rigidity in terms of structure
and um is that what you're saying logic is that what you're saying
bro it's literally like an army of like fucking retarded apes right that just don't like they see
a banana from like a mile away and everyone just zergs the banana down you know that's the that's
the kind of vibe that it is but i think like it needs to be a little more organized like i still like that kind of vibe towards like a zerg of blue monkeys
just running at shit screaming like you know like some stupid shit but uh yeah i i think they're
like we need to change chat guys like like the the strat needs to be refined like we need to start running up
bananas with like ak-47s or some shit you know like i'm just throwing out dumb ass ideas here but
yeah something needs to be cooked up yeah we have to evolve it is our it is our destiny as blue
retarded monkeys to evolve but um i think like this is a really valuable conversation of course
if you're just tuning in now welcome you missed a great conversation with chronicle uh over here we're
talking about neo tokyo there's actually some great points to take away from even the early
stories and the history behind neo tokyo not to say that you know ronky is gonna be the next neo
tokyo like but there's a lot of points that in which you know we could take away as a community
and and maybe put into action um i think there's a lot more to come there's a lot more to come from
runki in general uh these are still very very early days and you know name me uh uh and if we
we take the the terminology like name me an inside joke coin instead of a meme coin but it is a meme
coin that actually survived these types of market
conditions because it's not been good bro like in my four years of being dedicated to like actually
looking at charts and how the network's doing and everything it's been a it's been very fucking rough
so in in most cases it was a safe play to be a Ronke. The retarded thing actually kept you safe.
But I think there's a lot to push on with the rest of this year. One of the biggest things
that has happened, I would say from my personal perspective, is seeing Ronke in the Axie MMO,
in that little clip, the slap noise noise send that coin to a hundred million
dollars just for the sound of that slap noise um but there's there's a ton of IP plays that can be
done here you can see Ronin projects are leaning in to Ronkey one uh it's down to the community
bro it really is down to that because if you can capture people's attention in that way it's it's
like stupidly valuable um to to these projects especially when they're trying to push products
out there so you know i could see oh we had forgotten runiverse on tuesday i didn't want
to say it there and then but i'm more than confident that forgotten runiverse know what's
good right like we should see r Ronky in the Bruniverse.
Ronky should come out of the quantum shadow
balls blazing
onto the map.
I'm so confident
that Ronky
will be in Bruniverse, bro.
They can't drop that ball, bro.
They cannot drop that ball.
They sent that graphic.
It's already part of the game.
They just need to patch it in or some or some shit bro maybe some part of a dungeon or i don't fucking know but
i i it's too good to just be some like shitty ass edit you know like it just gives me a good vibe
i was trying to find uh the post where that picture is actually in there so we could share it to the space.
For anyone that hasn't seen that has visual context on that too.
But yeah, I mean, let's turn to it as we're talking about the game right now.
How has Forgotten Runeiverse been for you guys?
Stark said many a time here on this show,
he can't play MMOs because he will sacrifice his life
in terms of he will become a potato that
sits in his computer chair all day has that happened to you star since tuning in to the
forgotten runaverse and how has it been for you um i've enjoyed it a lot it definitely does not
have the like for me the hook yet but it's also still very that's not a bad thing honestly because if i feel that
that game is hooking me in that way um i i i have to push away um and that's just even even if it
were a web 2 a really fun web 2 game because you can't spend your whole life as an adult playing
games unless you're full-time web 3 i guess but even for me personally i have to i have to have time to play
other other games as well just to always keep in touch with the label of the land so
it's been that it's been fun i think there's it's obviously i had not dove into too much in the past
because anytime i tried to play it i completely broke the game and it became unplayable so this
is my first real go at it.
And there's definitely something there,
especially I'm not a big lore guy.
But if that is there on top of that,
then I know a lot of people, like, it makes or breaks projects,
especially here where they're really, I think,
trying to make an IP play where it's going to be bigger than that. Right.
So I think there's a lot of the game needs to be a lot more polished,
but it's just the start, right?
It's the start of the full release.
And I think it's much better to launch it and then fix it with the community
rather than imagine they had just kept it closed for six more months just to make
it a bit more polished.
That would have been a lot less fun for us right we i'm glad we get to uh fiddle with it before a lot of
other mmos come out right um yeah i was laughing then though stark and then you said like i'm not
something like i'm not a huge law guy and i'm just we've been streaming for the last two days so if
We've been streaming for the last two days, so if you haven't seen, obviously the streams are here on the Ronin Radio account, you can tune back in.
you haven't seen obviously the streams are here on the roni radio account you can tune back in
Oh, God.
Stark is like, fucking just give me the quest and let me see the point of the map I need to go to.
You do not want to read that text, bro.
Yeah, yeah, just walk, like, take my hand and walk me to the point I need to go.
Like, ugh.
I'm a true Zelda player, bro, so so i like being like you can do whatever the fuck
you want and go figure that stuff there was the bro there's like games when i was a young kid
on ps2 and i'm like eight years old and i'm not i can't figure this shit out bro and i'm literally
playing a game that's probably so simple i'm like jumping into walls like I have to build like some kind of game
knowledge to figure these things out it would take me days I would sit there and
play and be on the same level for hours and hours and hours and hours so I kind
of have that ingrained in me I kind of like the chase but when you look at this
game you think bro you know I want to get to this level so I can go to this
dungeon and there is this quanta airdrop thing going on as well.
We kind of want to hurry up the I think I think it was.
I think it would definitely be totally fine if it wasn't still riddled with bugs where you if you do like, you know, if you if you do struggle to figure to figure out the riddle of the quest and then it still doesn't work because they didn't register.
So you're actually like that's the added that's the salt on the wound right whereas if you just
for that one dungeon today i would say if you have not got there and forgotten universe yet
the hollow right you get a quest from alberto in the wizard's encampment he sent you to this dungeon
i'm telling you now i sat there if you watch the stream and just scroll towards the end it's i literally i cut the screen the stream off because i crashed out right we beat i was with
some randos teamed up with some randos we beat the final boss of that dungeon twice in a row
back to back the second time was weird i was like oh it must just be a bug we beat it the second
time and it just puts us back in a loop we had to fight the boss for a third time
and we lost and then it just said straight defeat kicked you out it was like yeah i spent all that
time doing this dungeon beating the boss twice not once twice and then we lose and you kicked me out
so i actually kicked the stream out but that has been actually been a for me it's been it's so good
to get an experience back right now
where, you know, I feel like I wake up,
yeah, do the things that we need to do
and stay on top of that.
But there's this excitement to get away
and dive into a game again.
So I'm glad that this is here right now.
Babelborn is here as well.
There's tons of players when there's still no,
you know, like, it's not like there's, like other games do, it of players when there's still no, you know,
like it's not like there's like other games do.
It's not like there's a clear play to airdrop campaign or anything like that at the moment.
It's still figure it out.
So like anyone playing right now is not doing it for the earnings
or not directly.
So at best speculating that they're getting ahead
in case it does in the future.
But that's always a good sign when there's tons of, always never enough, but there's still tons
of games that you can play to earn dollars here and there. So if Web3 gamers are picking to choose,
picking to play your game, even if it's just over the potential of being ahead, so when
earnings of some sort do come in the future uh they're ready that's still
super bullish for that project and that game yeah 100 and shout out to all the guilds and and uh
the the organizations out there that are one step ahead of the game bro logic you got any alpha for
people that are playing forgotten universe we're about to jump in and kind of how they can be approaching yes 100 like i i know before right it was a little
laggy in like shit's dc-ing and shit's not working bro my alpha for you is you go download
arc browser it's literally fucking crack cocaine like i have not lagged or dc'd or had i'm not even it's literally like crack cocaine
for runiverse i'm not even capping like star can speak on this he's he started using it earlier
is it actually much much better oh you you don't freeze a single time and i haven't disconnected a
single time i'm almost i actually i actually uninstalled it because i i realized i didn't
do any research about it before downloading it.
So it's like it's almost too good to be true.
It's like you don't want to be telling everybody to put crack cocaine on their computers.
Yeah.
I'm telling you to put crack cocaine on your computer, bro.
Go download that shit.
Go use it.
Like, if you need to, just use Runiverse only.
Like, don't even do anything else on it
to be honest like if that's what it takes just so you can get a better gaming experience do so but
arc browser i think it's the best i'm using it like i don't care i don't think i mean we'll see
i need to read up more on it too anyways yeah but also it was my dad that put me on so it's like
why would he even get me fucked you know what i'm saying like it just doesn't make sense to add context he's in computer sciences he's not like it's not like
because if my dad yeah my dad tells me to download a browser i'm telling him to uninstall it
yeah yeah my dad's a computer engineer and he's actually the one that got me the crypto so he's like with the shit you
know like he's he's cultured in that way but yeah arc browser and uh get the unique boost pack bro
like 20 bucks 30 days come on oh yeah the exp boost i think you get you get triple the exp of
the of the regular one that you get daily that only lasts four hours. So it's worth it to just fly through things.
And you get more drops.
So it's basically $20 for the game.
If you plan to play it, if you plan
to max out the level of your character and wait and see,
I think it just speeds up your time,
because you also get more resources picked up
when you pick up resources.
So it's going to remove a lot of the grime that you may feel.
So it's the $20 thing.
It's not necessarily a get-ahead-more thing.
It's just it's a time-saving thing if you want to grind less
and play other games or whatever.
Don't expect a return on investment on it,
but it's more like saves you some time,
and then you can play other games instead of just only playing runiverse or saves you yeah it's just
it saves you time yeah 100 yeah shout out to everyone that's in the runiverse right now um
hope you guys are enjoying that experience shout out to the team uh what i would consider a
successful launch this week um and again this is still early access there's a ton a ton of more stuff to come um yeah and shout out to uh nc plays as well because those
guys i was just checking through the account they're definitely in the broodiverse i'm playing
so if they want to come over and um cross pollinate with some of the rolling players we've got big
guilds as well shout out to grimoire which is, which is a guild that Ryan is spearheading with Nyx as well.
I don't even know who's spearheading it. Is it Nyx or is it Ryan?
But either way, those guys are both in there. They're doing really well.
Shout out to Ray Veazley. He's got a guild going as well.
And eventually, the necessity to have partners or people, places to go and farm um items uh and materials uh is going to
be it's going to be necessary so if you want to take that back to uh neo tokyo chronicles and
um you know plug them in with with some of the guilds here on the ronin side uh we got sushi
noby up here though the wrong people is in a building seriously what is good bro we need ronky in forgotten
rooniverse i think it's happened i think it's already here i'm gonna speak it into existence
logic told me today manifest it's happening i mean i think so too i mean i don't know if nick's
here and if he's the ronin account there but he he dropped a message before that he will cut his banana if um forgotten
universe won't integrate um wrong key into their game and they already have the art right they
posted it already so it's like uh an easy thing for them yeah yeah yeah i don't think nix could
come up here on the Ronin account say he'll cut his banana only kagi could do that so shout out
to kagi wherever he's at yeah but man this is definitely
chronicles for someone to meet on the ronin network for sure sushi um here right now i was
sushi what have you done what have you been doing right now what are you doing right now there's
something else right yeah there's stuff um that i've been working on with other community members
their stuff that I've been working on with other community members.
Yes, there's also something that's like us, RR, Ronin Radio,
but you have a double R that you work with as well.
Oh, yeah.
That's, I mean, next month we have a dev stream,
and both of you, Teben and Gila, are invited to, you know, play it live.
I'm looking forward to that one i'm
looking forward uh cryicles if you don't know and neo tokyo pupils if you have not seen yet there is
a community built game um that is is going to be uh playable within the next month or two here on
ronin uh called ronin realms and um it's it's one that we've been excited for for a while um i'm
actually going
to share a post here so you can check that out if you want to but i mean sushi if you want to
you want to give a quick quick shill on what running realms is then then be my guest
uh what's the best way to explain it well
uh let me see so i mean you could be like logic and say it's crack cocaine for mmo yeah i mean i was even the first i was even gonna i was gonna jump in as you were hesitating to give
you some time and just say to anyone who doesn't know about ronan realms i don't think you'll ever
see a game that's able to build so much with uh like it's just so efficient with their with their
budget basically anytime you you
see any footage or things like that people are always shocked because it's just like even saying
like that it's a community built project doesn't give it enough credit because when you see it
you're going to be like holy this is what they were talking about it's like yeah yeah yeah it's
very community driven um how berlin and i met right is from the haxy community
how we connected and it's all um passion driven we just um talked and had the vision and you know
um started getting to work you know so yeah that's how it's done you know just just do it
you know whatever happens just just do it get on to it if you you think it's done you know just just do it you know whatever happens just just do it
get on to it if you you think it's a good idea just do it and for next month basically for the
dev stream and for the the alpha test too it's basically just the pvp side of the game which is
more um as i mentioned last, Drone and Radio 2.
It's more of a battle royale
extraction game.
I'm going to shit on Theban, bro. He doesn't even know it yet.
Do you think he's going to be nice?
I don't know if Theban ever played
something like that.
Almost like a third-person shooter game.
This is the funniest
thing about Theban. He's one of the greatest gamers
on the planet but he
cannot play fps i know this isn't first person it's third person really so i might have the edge
here i might have the edge dude listen even if i can't play shooters i ain't losing to you mate
you're setting yourself up right here yo listen have listen. Ava, Ava, save this little clip.
Just put it as an MP4 on your desktop
because we're coming back to this
in about a month and a half
when our plat demon in ruling realms, bro.
Just know that's going to happen.
But no, I'm hugely excited for the project.
A shout out to Berlin.
Berlin has been a fucking unit in this space
since he got here since the
poison axi days i knew he was a bro when he was playing poison i knew he was a bro but what a
journey bro i don't know why i'm sitting here eating a piece of mango shout out to neo tokyo
before i say this because i just need to there needs to be some formality before i go full off
the rails shout out to neo tokyo uh and shout out to chronicles business dev here today
um yeah man you guys made this happen because my dumb ass thought it was you know oh yeah we're
hosting you guys and it wasn't true but now it is true we've made it stoked thank you so much for
being here today and uh and yeah anything that we can do to support you guys in the future by all
means um we will stand by it.
And it's nice to hear from yourself, your story, and that the community is largely DMs open and
there's collaboration opportunity there for sure. So Ronan, if you are here, check out the NFTs as
well, because yes, the Neo Tokyo Citizens, it's a pretty penny, ladies and gentlemen. It's like
mystic Axie status. But if you want to check out the other
nfc which is the outer citizens there is definitely some value in that too so um check neo tokyo out
if today's your first time coming across them and welcome them open arms through the rowing
network man thank you very much for being here today thanks again no this is i'm seeing all the uh the rocky tweets right now and it is you guys are wild
i love it uh no i'm really excited um appreciate you having me and uh yeah i'm always uh available
to come on to other spaces too love that love that yeah maybe we have to go back to those days
bro we've been doing like so many shows like We do show features and I think it's really important, especially in this time. But there's a lot of projects coming to Ronan. There's a lot of things happening. We're moving and shaking more than we ever have. So it's important to feature things and really have a solid approach. But on some of the days, just to get a panel up here and have conversation i think we're gonna we're gonna aim for that more in in the future so um w in the chat i've got a mango in my hand right
now i'm just sitting chilling eating i think we're gonna keep the space going to keep the
conversation flowing um but we go like it's getting late over these sides ladies and gentlemen so my people sushi have you got something for us
to to that will the same way the ronkin chart right now is getting green green dildos i and
rocketing up and growing in inches do you have something that will make me grow in inches
pause don't take that anywhere else but yeah do you have announcement? Announcement have?
Wrong key, no announcement?
I mean, did you guys already show the Coco?
And that was a pretty good one.
I was
listening earlier, and
there was a tag that
from Teben that the wrong
key meme isn't relatable.
And I disagree on that.
Fight.
I think, right, just if anything, it's kind of like...
I didn't say it's not relatable.
I said that it's an inside joke.
That's where it came from.
Not relatable.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Kind of like an inside joke,
but it has the best chance to.
It's like, yeah, as I was saying earlier,
it's kind of like Pepe where it's like the ugly face.
You can put it anywhere.
And that kind of makes it like the most um relatable and like highest chance
of um virality as a meme character uh oh that's what i think at least no i actually agree with
that because the whole process i think the thing that made ronky as bullish as it is
as bullish as it is arguably is the ronkify process the ronkification of people
i think was the attention driver because suddenly you couldn't you didn't have to
misrepresent yourself you could represent yourself but with ronky and it's like a
badge of honor a badge of support right so the ip to be able to like to transfer the face
of ronky onto something with probably one of its strongest factors or features yeah it's it's so
easy to put on the the eyes and the mouth because it's almost like separated almost because i watch I watch Logic do his like Ronky 5 stream.
It's fun how he does it.
Absolutely.
Alright, M lads.
There is actually a huge,
huge thing to talk about here.
And we've got to get into it, alright? So, braces
