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New Axie season 📈 or 📉?
Recorded: Jan. 18, 2024 Duration: 2:01:13Space Recording
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Thank you. Thank you. to the ronin fucking radio we are just dropped some shit we are here bruv back again you know
what it is every single week two times a week tuesday thursday but thursday are lads you know what it is every single week, two times a week, Tuesday, Thursday. But Thursday, oh, lads, you know, ladies, they know this is the one.
Thursday is the one.
Shout out to everyone that's pulled up nice and early.
We've got a big boy speakers list today, bringing it all the way back to 2022
with some proper names, bro.
I'll tell you that for a fact.
Hopefully we'll see them pull up real quick.
I don't know.
They're playing with me right now, bro now bro i'm gonna start sending out messages say yo it's three minutes bro three minutes you gotta be here uh of course we have on the list
today mr spam and rice 1437 my boy cairo the guy that knows Axie inside out obviously we are now so grateful and happy to
announce that BQ is going to be part of our Thursday shows whenever he's around he's going
to be here bringing us the updates from Aperion but of course joining the conversation as standard
another you know another one of those people in the community that we'd love to show support to uh and and gives back it gives us that beautiful content so shout out to him a lot of questions a
lot of things to go through this is one of those open community spaces of course there's an agenda
uh and there's there's a bit of a bit of a routine that we're going to go through uh in
terms of conversations um but feel free to chime in and leave your
comments to the space we'll be reading through them first and foremost though before we get
this thing started i need you i need the ronin community to go and boost this one out here
go and comment go and put it on your timeline retweet it repost it whatever the fuck it's
called put it out there we're gonna have a good conversation today but as we are here and as i have my friends with me i'm gonna start i'm gonna
start introing you know i'm saying we're here i haven't spoken to you for a minute cairo how are
you doing bro he was in las vegas last week let us know what you've been up to and uh and yeah man
how are you feeling about everything right now in this current stage?
I'm doing good, man.
I'm happy to be back on the running radio.
I'm a little tired.
It's 8 a.m. I'm up bright and early, but happy to be here.
Last night went out.
I just got back from Vegas, like you said.
Last night went to this tiny casino that's like 10 minutes from me just for fun.
We were bored
and ended up hitting a jackpot so i don't know man the bull run might actually be back you know
it's feeling it you feeling the look i saw the post actually i'm a little lucky right now man
are you sure it's not uh your girl who's lucky bro she might be a lucky charm man you know i honestly i actually might be it is
it is because i've seen i've seen you craft on origins before i don't know if you're that lucky
bro but but this season crafting mechanics change is another point in the conversation we'll get
into um but but yeah man excited to have you here like glad to have you back question though bro have
you have you uh have you started playing season seven have you touched it yet have you thought about it what's going on uh i have i've
played a couple games uh i actually just got a new phone so downloaded it the test flight and
i've played a couple um yeah but not not too too many yet yes mr spam is here bro let's go when did they add um when did they add a microphone on twitter
space for pc that's dope yeah it's recent you just have to make sure it's on as the browser default
yeah a lot of people it's it's difficult but they got it i wouldn't put it past you but welcome
listen we're here today to talk about season seven i want to i want to set the tone right
of course road in radio we're here to communicate things that happen in the running community
one of the big things that happened this week of course is axi season seven was announced so
that's where we're going to start the conversation spam i know it's enduring your stream right now
there's not uh you said 30 minutes before hopefully maybe squeeze a few more minutes
out of you here but oh no no no no no take your time take your time i'm just grinding
a xp and stuff you bro clicking cards and talking i i do this for a living i can i can
kill here for a minute yeah yeah a professional multitasker that's dope that's dope but yeah
like how i set out the show i did want to give you the floor at the beginning of this to talk about everything you know uh thoughts no no no rush no rush just just go on with your
show naturally bro i i'm gonna probably be listening even when i'm done talking so um i'm
in here i'm here at least for an hour or something okay word we with it we with it i like that yes
man so if you just pulled up welcome ronin radio of course every thursday we're
here uh go ahead and put some comments in below if you've got questions about season seven topics
that you want to talk about concerns or positive points that you'd like to amplify go ahead and
put them in the comments i'm going to be reading throughout the entire episode uh so your support
is greatly appreciated drop us a repost and put it out there so we can start bringing through the
people uh this is where we're going to have out there so we can start bringing through the people.
This is where we're going to have that conversation today. I can see Hale in the audience as well.
Hale, if you'd like to come up at any point and join the discussion, by all means. And again, reaching out to the community here by saying in between these conversations, your opinion is valid.
If you would like to come up and speak, do request. I'm going to degen it and pull anybody and everybody up so you can get all your takes across.
Right. We want to hear stuff. These conversations are important.
So we're going to do that. You know what?
I'm going to give the start of the show to something that I didn't intend to.
Right. But I think I think this is this is a good point to intro Mr.
Biku, as is now going to be a regular on the show you guys know him for
sure but but biku i i wanted i wanted you to know genuinely i've been a fan of the content you put
out there the energy that you put out in those videos is fucking phenomenal bro like it's it's
difficult to get quality creators in web 3 and a huge amount of potential that you know i'm open to support so welcome to the show
glad to have you here brother
hey thanks for having me um honestly i'm just having fun um doing the vids that i do um it
just started out from having fun to just informing people and then i didn't really expect it to become anything like this but i'm glad people enjoyed
it and i'm glad uh i'm so happy that you know that you have me on board so i can give updates
on april and give my opinions on uh what's going on on ronin and pretty much just have a good time
thanks man yeah let's get it we would start with a period but yeah i'm gonna let it simmer for a
bit let it warm up so we get it to the most amount of people probably during the peak of the show um because i know play to airdrop is
going on over there which is of course one of those one of those i guess buzzwords we can say
it's buzzword right now that a lot of projects are going to start using but huge for user acquisition
you huge for the opportunity for players to go in and really get into the ecosystem and some ownership
through you know playing the damn game so uh bullish bullish for sure i've not touched the
pvp at all i know you did a play session last week with ghost how did that go how was that
oh with the play session yeah he he so he bought a planet right he bought a planet it's pretty much
one of the uh one of what we consider like equivalent to the mystic axi it's a divine planet
and we built a deck for him that was centered around that planet he built so that the moment he
actually uses his own nft um he already has a build that he can jump into without having to do a bit of research um
the two founders actually fought and and yeah yeah if you didn't see it the two founders fought
both jiho and uh lore keeper frank uh went and hacked that in pvp so they showed pvp they did an
ama and at the end of it i think they did a raffle as well so it
ended up pretty nice nice yeah frank we spoke with frank on the road in radio when apyreon launched
great guy very knowledgeable he was up at like 2 a.m to be there degenning we love to see a founder
degenning um but yeah frank is a guy that I need, I need another conversation with. I'll be real beaky.
So hopefully, uh, I can, I can sort that out real soon.
Uh, and we can get him back up here and maybe talk about the, the play to airdrop, um, and
some other things as well.
So, uh, like I said, grateful to have you here.
We're going to get the P2A details later on in the show.
So stick around for that one.
Aperion is one of those games that like, like i think is is undervalued at this moment in
time i'm hearing murmurs of potential mobile version of the p2a much later in the year though
don't you know don't get too excited don't get ahead of yourself right now but i'm telling you
if a mobile version of that game hits the stores or or the mavis hub. And it's going to be something.
So I'm excited about that for sure.
We got our co-host with us.
I'm actually going to change.
I've got to change the status real quick.
We got Mr. Finn is in the building, bro.
I've got to give props to Finn every single time
because, you know, just a great human
and really appreciated his support
over the last two three
months he always shows up and it makes sense bro come come and coordinate with us co-host with us
um and welcome to the show today brother i hope thursday's doing well good morning
yeah it's great man uh i'm like way more awake this morning than i usually am
i'm uh yeah i like woke up with uh i woke up with energy today, which is good.
I was up late playing some Fortnite
with some of the Wolfsdale guys.
We were checking out some UEFN maps.
And I saw almost 1 a.m. coming around on the clock,
and I was like, oh, boy, I up. Gotta be up in time. But yeah,
I'm feeling good.
I've been grinding my games.
I've been working my way up the leaderboard
in Season 7.
I've been working on my nifty island.
Wild Forest, I've been grinding out
the battle pass for that.
The season started this week, right? Season 3?
Yeah, and this
this season they change it so it's you gotta have uh 10 days uh with three victories each
to receive the battle pass for free so that's like their their mechanic for getting a free
battle pass so nice just kind of slowly grinding that out and uh yeah it's it's kind of fun like
i'm i'm excited there's so many like, we get to play right now.
Like, I'm not used to this.
I'm, like, not used to, like, having to really start breaking.
Yeah, we're spoiled.
Like, I got to, like, actually, like, figure out, okay, like, this is the time when I'm
playing this game, and then I can play this game at this time, and, like, I have it all
planned out in my head where I, like, you know, I know when the battle, when, like,
the daily challenges reset for each game
when i should optimize my time it's fun yeah i'm i'm min maxing don't you worry
oh we've got a professional min maxer on the stage my boy he ain't smoking dick today bro it's logic bro what's good for you it's a long time coming logic was like i needed a formal invite i
was i said to him bro you are literally welcome on this space anytime that you want but the formal invitation was sent
out and i'm glad to have you here bro uh what's good with you been absolutely killing it on the
streams right now um but let us know what's going on in your world bro yo what's good yeah we're not
smoking dick today we're smoking oxygen today i'm straight oxy straight up oxygen baby so we're not smoking dick today we're smoking oxygen today straight oxy straight up oxygen baby so we're
feeling good we got the we got the coffee with the mushroom powder which i'm a highly highly big fan
of you guys should get on that like brain hacks type shit but yeah you could take the ly off that
and and it might be accurate right sorry yeah you have to deep what you have to yeah it was a wordplay i'm sorry carry on logic no you're good you're good but yeah no my uh my world is
literally axi right now um i mean obviously exp changes we're going on some like dgen type shit just i grinded yesterday for five hours i only got 11k so like based on the
maths you know i need i need at least like 14 15 hours to get 30k to actually like level up my
axes which is completely impossible like i i can't sit here for 14 hours 24 hours in a day 30 hours yeah yeah it doesn't matter i think
though this is one thing actually this needs to get communicated because this morning when i loaded up
the warm-up session for the stream we played a few games of axie and i noticed when i had my
atiyah's blessing and it comes up when you open the game up and the axp booster it wasn't turned
on so all yesterday i
played without boosting the a xp even though i bought it yesterday with the gems so check your
account bro and make sure it's actually turned on because it sounds quite low in a xp terms oh i i
can i'll make a social post about that uh if it wasn't clear already once you purchase it you do
have to activate it's not an instantaneous thing yeah yeah the goal was yeah the goal was
that you'd be able to essentially if you would like to you can purchase multiple and then activate
them as you need uh so by default they don't activate so you can have multiple like you can
go back and get more and they'll stack in your inventory um so yeah i can i'll make sure we
communicate that part that makes a lot of sense though because you
know if we get like i don't know you know incentives can come from all different angles
and all different reasons potential for like maybe a gem discount opportunity and you could
stack like four of them and keep them there and redeem them as they go like yeah there you go if
you didn't have that idea if that wasn't already like i trust that sm do like a very high level vert like scope down and be like this can happen this can happen and you already
know this stuff but it comes to my mind i'm gonna say it is what it is we're on the running radio
have some good combos but yeah shout out to you logic man i was watching your stream yesterday
that aoe looks scary earwing doing disgusting things um but man it's good to see it is good to
see it's nice to be joined up here though
i did see the hands waving we actually have a period on here with us so i do want to acknowledge
that hopefully frank behind the curtain oh hi yes it's me but uh i'm just i'm just eavesdropping
here i have to catch a bunch of alts so uh yeah i'll be i'll be listening
i'll just of course apion is going to be part of the show we'll do it later on into the show so
keep the account up here you lot know what the game is there it is click the logo and make sure
you follow apyreon for updates there's a lot of stuff coming your way so love to have that here and grateful that you're listening in frank uh the man the myth the guy that is no longer in the scene but may return
my good friend mr 1437 bro it's it's a good time when you pull up man how are you doing i know it's
the evening over there for you uh bro busy as hell uh maybe maybe we begin this with
with maybe bro literally as i'm like introing him bro pops off the stage i don't know why i don't
know why hopefully he's back little little delay little delay nice little rug at the start here
of running radio but hopefully we're getting back up here mr 1437 please steven tell me
back up here mr1437 please steven tell me what have you been up to
what have you been up to
oh i heard noises oh yes yo what's good yeah it's been a hot minute i mean you know just been really
busy with work here um i've been actually coaching a dota team for the past couple of months now. Yeah, I mean, it's just been chaotic.
You know, New Year comes around and there's a lot of tournaments and things like that happening.
But I stay involved in all AXI news, everything.
You know, I'm up to date still.
I got my streak.
um i got my streak it's on like 51 or something you know through all this chaos and all this
It's on like 51 or something.
traveling i always make sure i got my prayers going so yeah prayer hands we're out here man
still out here now congratulations on uh you know the role uh coaching the dot team and you know
being able to to still be in the gaming universe uh and you know doing the damn thing man it's uh it's it's
a shame to not see you know that that that precious number on the leaderboards or or maybe
even rocking you know the 1437 axie the collectible leaderboards are here which we're going to talk
about and that would definitely be something for you um but but yeah we i'm going to get into it
a little bit of pain points i want to know how
you feel about missing out on certain things eventually but uh but yeah just glad to have
you here man i appreciate you all coming through and appreciate all of the speakers that are here
with us today i know your time is the most valuable resource so for you guys to spend that
time here it means a lot to us so shout out to you let's get into this one here but first we have a giveaway going on for you today we are fortunate
enough to have a little sponsor little sponsor reenies right and i'm gonna be honest bro this
gonna be standard we're like we're gonna make this happen because the sponsors feed directly
back into the community and that's important for me like you lot know what it is we
come through the community a lot of all of our speakers here today are from the community and
came up through the community so this is very important if you'd like to be in the giveaway
today the top prize is going to be a fully facilitated season seven axi infinity comp so if
you have been asking for scholarships, if you have a comp
that needs a tweak, needs a change, if you need that one Axie to make that shit work,
you could get that today. Now, I say it's a full comp discrepancies based on the winner.
We'll do what we need to do. Most people are probably going to say, no, Gila, I need three
Axies. But if you do just need one Axie, actually we're gonna sort that out for you uh but there are two runner-up positions for 10 run each
as well so how do you enter well the tweet is there you can check it out but most importantly
like retweet and bookmark the post below the actual post is up go read it it makes sense when
you read it but then you need to send a screenshot of your attendance right here so if you're here and listening to this you can go ahead and do that now just respond in
the comments with a screenshot of your attendance we'll take all the names down and we'll pick a
winner at the end of the show on the live stream so it won't be during Ronin Radio it will be
slightly after on the live stream so make sure you stick around we're going to finish the Axie
Grind after this as well anyway so if you enjoy that you you can enjoy it with me all right and potentially you're going to
be a winner so without further ado we're going to get into the show's agendas today we're talking
about season seven right out of the gate and of course these are the big headlines there's a lot
of changes we're going to talk about the opinions on the changes and the effects of them. But this is the things that stick out, right? 20,000 leaderboard spots, more rewards for more people. Good point for some, bad point for others. But ultimately, the season will end with an Elite Eight tournament.
Elite 8 tournament. The SLP is now in prize pool. It's a hybrid leaderboard system. And that hybrid
leaderboard system is distributed between 63,000 AXS and 45.8 million SLP. Now that is a huge total
of around roughly 640,000 US dollars. Who knows if shit gets bullish during the season, mate, it might be a
little bit more, but it's a lot. It's a lot of rewards. We have a revamped AXP system. Of course,
the caps have been raised and the ability to earn AXP now is scaling based upon where you are on the
leaderboards. And of course, new items in the origin shop, one of them being the AXP booster
we spoke about a little bit earlier and Rune and charms boxes there's questions is there a point to craft anymore well the crafting
had its own balancing updates as well so we'll talk about those and for finally we'll end it
off talking about the collectible leaderboards which is one of those topics that i want to get
into because i'm gonna say it now i'm winning that all right and on that note i'm gonna turn to the speakers i'll spam i want to go with you first bro for real
you know there's a lot of changes just no spam spam you're doing this no no no i'm sorry i'm
going to you bro you might be in the middle of a game i'm sorry right so there's there's a lot of changes the first thing i want to point out is
basically from your perspective what's the what's the biggest change or the biggest talking point
and and something that you'd like to to focus on essentially or or where do you feel um your
strongest opinions go towards with the changes well initially like the most glaring
and obvious change would have to be the axp right and i'm not gonna lie as a competitive player
i was like wait what do you mean i have to grind nine hours 12 hours a day you know
then i realized you know you know i like i always tell Gila, you have to let your thoughts marinate for 24 hours
before you form a proper opinion.
And so yeah, AXP is the highlight,
but then I thought of it this way.
99% of the community, they aren't pro players.
They're people that invest in the game, enjoy the game,
play casually.
They don't make a bunch of money off the game.
They just look to either break even,
you know, accumulate their assets and everything. And they're like really the core people of this community that make up the majority of this ecosystem. So I had to start looking at it from
their side and less of the 1% of the players, which is the pro players, including myself.
For them, for most people, this is great. We have unlimited AXP basically.
That means more evolutions, more burn.
There's people farming mementos for daily living now.
There are people who just log in casually
and they feel like they're progressing.
Tons of people can relate to this,
but we all grew up playing,
a lot of people grew up playing Pokemon.
And we were just, just the addiction of like leveling up your pokemon even when you beat
the game already it was just great and that's what we kind of have going on right now too
so um yeah when you look at it from that side it's great i think i think it's really really good
now on the pro player side right um it does kind of suck because, you know, with this AXP
leveling system, it makes breeding harder because now when you hatch a breed, it might not sell
right away because players have to know, you have to level it for it to be viable. No more buying an
axiom the last day, the last second, and having it be viable right off the spot. On top of that,
it's a huge time sink now. You know, you really, really have to dedicate a lot of time in order to maximize his HP.
But I just wanted to quote the great Cairo.
He did say it's not Axie Infinity's duty or role or job to pay for your livelihood.
I know a lot of people are upset with the lower leaderboard rewards and everything like that.
But no one's forcing you to buy that expensive Axie.
No one's forcing you to play just eight, nine hours a day.
And there has to become a median where pro players also have to understand that in these market conditions, we can't be giving out like that AXS rewards like we used to.
Right.
So I just try seeing things from both sides of view.
I really feel like we can still hit that medium pinpoint.
I think most people are happy with the AXP change,
but they're just not happy with that.
I don't know, for anyone listening that doesn't know yet,
you can play infinitely now.
When you're out of stamina, when you're out of energy,
you can play and gain, you can make a bot 24 hours around the clock.
Your axes are going to level up.
But that seems like a very simple fix.
So overall, I would say more positive than negative yeah i really appreciate that actually like the the holistic approach you know taking a more macro view bird's eye view of
the situation um and seeing it from the perspective of like other players and you know with the
thoughts marinating you know i know that comes with it i remember being on your stream you had those epiphanies there on the stream as well so it's
like quick to to understand those things um and largely yeah there's there's there's so many
ecosystem benefits that it's it's it is a mixture of both and it really depends on like the perspective and the stance it's it's one of those things where when we look at it as a business from sky mavis point of view
it's like if you've got competitive players they're essentially the one percent and now
generally we're not going to be intellectually dishonest here you know we can share posts about
the the difference in in reward distribution from last season to this season for the higher ranks but
when you look at the one percent it is it we already have a one percent who are
i both emotionally invested but then professionally essentially where you know those rewards really determine their longevity in the
ecosystem um but we already have a number that's equivalent to like the one percent ready and
willing to play each season and that actually like user acquisition more players playing is
the direct business driver um so it's one of those things where, of course,
when you're directly affected, shit's going to feel bad.
It's going to feel bad.
And it's not going to be the best scenario for that 1%.
And I do wonder, and this is why I have the conversations,
whether there is plans for things like compensation,
maybe more professional environments for the one percent
to be able to you know maybe make up for the differences that we might be seeing i can see
theban's hand up so i'm going to pass it over to him i'm just saying one really quick thing um sorry
about the nine to twelve hour comment um actually when i first got the initial reaction i didn't see
the axp booster but now uh there'sXP booster, and the new math behind it
is once you're in challenger, you could probably cap out
your axes in five to six hours.
And I think that's reasonable for an aspiring pro player
to do.
I've seen people grind five hours with no AXP,
just being hard stuck on ladder.
So at least now you get progression
when you're stuck at a certain rank.
All right, what's up?
Yeah.
Yo, yeah. I mean, this is a very interesting topic but coming from like a competitive background i
think grinding personally should be an option and something that like you opt into and not something
that you're kind of forced to do in order to compete. I don't think like playing X and X amount of hours
or being forced to do that in order to compete
is like really a healthy way to look at competition.
You know, for example, in basketball, right?
Like there's Kobe who out-practiced everyone.
He wasn't like the most talented person when he came into the league, but he became better than everybody because of his mentality. And then there are players who are the most talented who don't need to play as much. And they still tend to stay at the top, right? Like, I feel the way that the game is structured right now. It's like, you have to do this bare minimum of grinding that you have to play essentially,
or you have to buy it from someone else,
which probably will be unlikely of that happening
in order for you to compete.
So for me, as a solution,
I feel that maybe there should be two leaderboards
where one is all about the AXP, the levels,
you have all that stuff. And then's like a classic version of origins where um you just play with like pretty much all
the axes are like the same level and now the breeds like especially breeding breeding new axes
breeding new metas and stuff like that they can kind of just show up one and be playable in those leaderboards
that's interesting man like uh like an ascension capped environment so you have a leaderboard for
no ascension like no part evolutions and then for one part evolution and for two part evolution
or maybe just no evolutions and then the open circuit um it's it the only
thing that comes to mind on that is like dev time actually getting that you know to market to to
product that it's available it's interesting it's interesting concept i will be blatantly
you know blunt about this i really don't think that shit's gonna happen but like it does set
a nice environment so my my view on it here was like and as well this was before really figuring
out the axp boosters and things like that um and you said it there like kobe out practiced people
he put time in he put dedication in he did it in the right areas. He had the right mentality around it. There's a lot of factors, but ultimately he put more time into being better.
And AXP is Axie experience points.
And you're putting more time into an Axie for that Axie to be better.
Hale made a comment on one of my early statements.
And again, I should have let it marinate.
But it rang really true on like
really you know that's that's how you evolve like that's the the reasoning behind evolution is you
know the experience that goes into growing stronger um so where my thoughts were we're on a competitive
scene when we are playing competitively um not in the ladder in in the elo
version but like say it's a tournament you know the the standard should kind of be set so yes the
experience as a player matters but like the experience of of of the axes kind of becomes
a question they're like oh this person might be a better player mentally with certain
abilities but doesn't have the axes to kind of do so but that was always the environment i saw a
hand up by by frank and you know i'd love to hear frank getting in on this conversation for sure
all right i put it back down because i think you guys got it all figured out.
I don't have to.
I got one more thing for you.
The AXS rewards, they're like kind of half, right?
Of what they were the previous season?
Not half.
I can share right now.
We have a post. I think zero did some uh maths made a
spreadsheet about it it's one of the featured tweets long story short usd is i mean usd value
wise it's similar right but then obviously since access is up access is less and they split it
between sop and access yeah um same same usd value similar very similar yeah right so i mean i i think um like but the axs total amount
like if you if you notice season after season it was always the same amount of axs allocated
to the leaderboard awards um they just you know changed where it was located in the rankings
but now i feel like it's like half i believe and i was wondering what if
it's because they want to use the other half of the access that normally gets allocated and they're
going to put it into actually classic or something classic and a xs that would be an interesting
thing that's for sure um you know we've seen slp come into the into the environment of of classic since it's a revamp
interesting yeah i mean that's gonna drive it's gonna drive players right it's gonna
incentivize people um but i don't know maybe you know finn you work a little closer here
i'm not answering anything here i'm not getting trapped here i There's nothing, anything I say here
will and can be used against me in a court of law.
No, like, what can I say here?
I think the most that I think I can say is, like,
obviously, as the game progresses and the game builds out,
one of the important aspects is ensuring that the reward system is economical and balanced across all games, right? You were testing that
across different games and seeing, you know, what is the best output possible. You know, and yeah,
like, you know, the USD value is still very significant.
It's just a test to see,
we are introducing this new SLP mechanic,
it makes sense to then introduce rewards utilizing that mechanic so that we're not just
throwing out a new system and then not doing anything about it.
So yeah, it's a lot of iterating, evolving,
and just trying to not let things sit
for too long without trying to to find new ways
and better ways to do them yeah axp obviously is to go to origins now for axp is like a standard
the most opportunities there so of course you're going to create the demand um and okay even even
if we go aside from tokens and we talk about ax, like this kind of a change we can see is possible
and potential for different games in the ecosystem.
So like there's this like a testing period
to see how much it raises the demand
and then equally can we do that elsewhere
and see that data.
I mean like it's 100%, right?
Like it's, I think it's pretty, I think it's pretty cool. Like I think for, it's 100%, right?
I think it's pretty cool.
I think for a very long time, like AXP was introduced,
and then there was a lot of things kind of missing
to make it a dynamic system
where kind of the ability to jump
from different games to min-max
and, I mean, Zio putting together those crazy guides
showing how you can, like, bounce from game to game.
Wow, Zio.
But, like, we're getting to that point, right?
We're getting to that cool point, right,
where we can sort of start to see, like,
different ways to engage with different games
with different axes, right?
Like, it might be that, like, it's better to leave an axe
that's not really competitive in Project T, right? It might be that it's better to leave an axe that's not really competitive in Project T, right?
Or use it for a game that's a little more passive
while starting the XP or utilizing Coco for those axes
versus having to worry about putting together
a two out of three team to go grind out in Origins for a bit.
So I think it's it's cool like
it's everything's getting a little bit more involved and um built out and you know what has
what started as a very simple game is you know obviously looking at it today it's like it's
really exciting to see what axie has become and kind of the direction it's headed facts yeah we're gonna
go back into the season conversation here but i do want to take a little interjection here to
congratulate uh spam with the in-game trainer shout out to you bro this is the first of its
kind like seeing a creator from the community like input into the actual games infrastructure so
you know this one this one this one's reba yeah oh my god yeah that was
dope um i know we were working on ygg quest i didn't expect it to be yesterday so that caught
me off guard um but yeah man what an honor really because you guys know me i don't even play touch
games outside of roman so like yeah it meant a lot facts yeah it's big it's big so again you know
direct you know you're bringing players in
you're bringing your friends in we got some kind of medium there for them to go and and study up
on the basics of the game and get involved and just touching on finn's last point really now like
axie universe is growing towards a point where it's not like people come in and it's like okay
you need three axes to play because that was the narrative right you need three axes to play and now we're seeing it's like yeah you need three
axes to play a game of origin you don't because you can use starter axes but you need you want a
three axi comp in origins you want a three axi comp in classic then you might have comps or axes
that you prefer and are collectible and they can be earning AXP in different ways and different environments.
So we push it.
Yeah.
Like my lizard, my, my Gengar never goes into the arena, but he looks
awesome following me around in project T and he looks great in the dojo, right?
Like it's the axes for, for different purposes, right?
We're starting to create axie jobs, uh an axi an axi job market them employed but yeah man i want
to um i want to push it to logic bro because you are an axp fiend right now like two evolved parts
on on on two thirds of of your comp right now like so you've been grinding even when the axp
wasn't boosted up um so how does this season make you feel now oh yeah no i actually
um did the quick math real quick because what what spam said regarding the axp boost kind of
like opened my eyes so we mathed this out it's supposed to be and honestly like guys if my math
is wrong do correct me but at the end of it all I got five hours and 16 minutes to get 30k AXP at Challenger.
The breakdown of this is 300 AXP average at Challenger, right? Because you get it from the
draw, 300 AXP per game. Now you get the 40% boost. That's 120 extra AXP per game. So you get 420 per
game. It's about four minutes per game. So I did 30 30k divided by 420 which is going to be 71.42
games you times that by four minutes which becomes 285.71 minutes divided by 60 which becomes five
hours and 16 minutes so that's actually not super bad um if anyone has like a better math calculation or if my calculation is
wrong do let me know but now that i really just like thought about it with the boost being a
challenger min maxing axp min maxing competitive levels it should take around five hours yeah so
i think i think anyone's gonna hate that math we're just like nodding our heads yeah no yeah if i said it
earlier it was like five hours so yeah even i'm sitting here just like yeah yeah that sounds right
let me get out of the couch where the is adrd bro get that calculator out
yo if you know og origins bro get the calculator out bro adrd we need you right now
but no logic mim maxa bro i know i know
this is he does this in his sleep so i would i wouldn't quote it for definite but you know
reasonable averages out there and you could be trash so you might not be ever doing that five
hours like me so yeah i mean it's it's what i didn't account for yesterday was i was grinding
from egg to now whatever I'm at.
I think I'm a tiger or something like that.
But once I reach challenger,
that's huge.
And I said to you,
the,
the calculations too on this cord Gila.
and I think it makes sense.
Like I know I'm going to be in challenger.
I know that my comp can bring it up there.
And if I can max out my exp at challenger every single day,
and I'm just getting even more powerful, then like I love that.
I mean, I personally, I mean, this may sound super biased because I just want to min-max and be as strong as possible.
But for me, this is great.
Like for me, if I'm going to get stronger and much faster and I'm snowballing my effect and I can have a way better competitive advantage and literally smurf on people just because i have
super high level axes you know i'll take it i'm not complaining so that sounds like someone i know he hasn't spoken much on this topic yet so i'm gonna bring you in right here bro like you want
mystics to shoot lasers out of their eyes are we getting in a close enough environment for you in
in that respect and and is this season is this season enticing for you in that respect?
And is this season enticing for you to actually play?
Are you going to go the competitive route
or are you going to go the collectible route, Kyra?
No, I don't know how to feel about this season.
I don't know how to feel about any of these changes,
to be quite honest.
I have to wait. And, you know, as you're talking about earlier with getting new information, you have to sit and let it marinate. And I'm gonna be honest.
I don't know how to feel about any of any of the changes that we're seeing. I feel like
lately, both Classic and Origins are going down a very Web 2 route with all of this stuff that you can purchase in the store now.
And, I mean, the collectible leaderboard is exciting, but until we see, like, price structures, how that's broken down, and how it all plays out, I really can't give too much of an opinion.
out. I really can't give too much of an opinion. How I feel about the excessive grinding,
and I mean, I know you guys are mathing it out and it's five hours or whatever, but
I kind of agree with Theban as far as I don't think that this kind of grind should be a requirement
to stay competitive. I actually think that the direction that Origins is headed at the moment is just a more exaggerated version of what we had before all of the AXP vertical progression.
I actually don't think this helps collectible Axe users or people that are wanting to use a very specific team.
I don't think that this helps that case overall.
I actually think it just makes what we had before even worse.
So I guess we'll have to see how it all plays out.
I think this actually demotivates a lot of people from playing.
They feel like if they just miss out early or aren't as leveled
or can't buy a team that is going to be massively expensive from all the AXP,
that they just kind of feel priced out.
So I don't know.
I guess we'll have to see where we are season from now
and how the first few eras play out.
But no, I'm not too excited personally.
Okay.
Honest takes, I told you no censorship today.
So we don't get opinions.
Like I've asked you guys in the audience as well to
put opinions forwards i personally i'm kind of in the same boat as as logic i'm excited about
axi part evolutions and this season for me seems like a much more enticing environment for me to
be playing i understand the hard grind the the math of axp boosters kind of
making up for that but then you know you saying the web2 feel of of in-store purchases but i mean
that being said you know the gems in in origins are purchased on app.axi you can use slp you can
use axs you can use run um so essentially you know token sinks in ways and
distribution happens from that but um i kind of i get i get the points i understand the points
i got theban's hand up here as well so i'm gonna push it over to you bro
yo yeah i mean i think i kind of resonate with what like carl is saying um it's like to say it's
the same thing right like i just don't want it's like the same thing, right?
Like, I just don't want to be, like, forced into the grind.
I just want to be able to compete.
And it should be my choice to do so.
But the route that this is going down, I mean, this is new stuff, right?
This is very new territory for Axie with the whole levels and the advantages that you get from it.
As small as it may seem, if you're like a MOBA player
or like a Dota player, you know what advantage
an Iron Branch would give.
I know not everyone here would understand that,
but like that's kind of what it is.
And I think in Pokemon Go, they have something similar
where like they have different brackets for where you play
or like you have to be like it's capped at like
a certain level i feel like that's where we're going to end up at um at the end of all this
but this first season it's going to be wild as hell because you know people who can grind who
have the time to grind are going to do it and then people who don't are not and then you know
you're just going to see like very familiar faces at the top and then like maybe for next season we'll end up seeing some kind of uh caps uh in terms of like what level that you can be at
uh at the end of the season yeah nice uh cairo with his hand i saw uh spam do the wave as well
i know he's on desktop so i'll go and we'll go to him just a little hot take i think um
correct me if i'm wrong but it's not like we could have sold origins as like a competitive Yeah, just a little hot take, I think.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not like we could have sold Origins as a competitive game in the first place.
I know, Cairo, there's no difference between your thoughts on this game
competitively from last season and this season.
So, like, might as well try something new, right?
Like, I do understand.
Like, no competitive game should require you to just grind to win, you know?
Competitive games are about skill, showcasing skill, and things of that nature.
But, like, if I had to be honest, like, I hear people's opinions on Origins all the time.
And the same people that are fighting this AXP change in Origins competitively and everything like that, bro, go down their timeline.
They were same negative feelings past few seasons. change in origins competitively and everything like that bro go down their timeline they were
same negative feelings past few seasons um correct me if i'm wrong but it feels like
more people are active this season um and this this is coming from someone that like
i i'm like i'm a pro player right i don't like this uh huge huge grinding i miss the ability
to hide comps until the last few days i miss the ability to analyze the market buy a team and then compete because i have uh i feel big brain because i i
bought something that can that does really well in the meta but yeah just i don't think much
changes i think i think we gave origin six seven seasons already might as well try something new
with the axp if uh we're not gonna be able to sell this game competitively we can sell it like you know for fun and yeah just
just try something new yeah i'm gonna pass it to caro but i want to make a statement real quick
of like how yeah in some regards some people don't consider origin as like the most competitive game
that we've had um you know there's differences between classic and origins or opinions and stuff like that.
We're saying we've given origin now six seasons, about to be seven for its development. And one thing that I just stick in my mind is I didn't get acquired as a user in the AXE ecosystem.
And, you know, until season 19.
And at that point was probably the highest spike of daily active users um so in
that regard there's an element of like we are still early um and that sky mavis normally follow
a trend of like incentivizing it and actually looking out for in ways the the early fans of
of the ip and the game and and the vision um so like having this as a grindy
phase of yeah you can get a shit ton of axp like when we get to season 19 how valuable is that axp
kind of advantage if we have a daily active user spike and the leveled up axes are now
serious viable um assets for people that are coming in and they really want them.
But yeah, Cairo.
Yeah, so I mean, I just want to make sure it's known that like I'm very for experimentation
and I definitely want us to try new things, especially after, you know, seeing what has and hasn't worked so far.
things, especially after, you know, seeing what has and hasn't worked so far. My problem with what
I'm seeing is that I don't feel like the game has a very strong identity overall, in terms of like
what it's going for at the current moment. I think with the AXP integration, and like you guys know,
from what I've talked about for a really long time, I've always wanted to see the vertical
progression stuff. I've always, I've been very excited for like really long time, I've always wanted to see the vertical progression stuff.
I've been very excited for the idea of picking your team.
That's the team that you want to use.
You level up with that if that's what you want to choose to do, and you can get stronger.
With the current setup, though, I feel like we kind of pulled away from what Spam was talking about with serving the marketplace, finding a new ideal comp that you can bring to the table. I feel like we've kind of like lost
the magic of that part of the game while also forcing all of our competitive players into a box.
And then at the same time, I feel like the people who wanted to just like pick a team,
grind with it,
they're never going to truly see any type of power spike big enough to actually make use of that comp beyond a certain point.
And not saying that it should be something extremely competitive if you just grind with your one team that you really like. But I don't know. I feel like the game overall has kind of boxed itself into this
to what we have to where now the competitive players and the people who are really grinding
the game they're just going to grind uh that one team uh until they hit max and like even if i
picked my favorite three axes that i have level them all up to 60 uh once the rest of the axes
like the one that's just ringing
in my mind is the double anemone comp. It's like any double anemone team. Yeah, they're everywhere.
And so any, like if you play, you play against an anemone comp like once every four games.
And by the end of everyone's grind, when people are maxed out and that day will come,
I'm assuming that we're going to reach a time
where people are at level 60, fully leveled Axies.
Like those triple anemone comps or whatever it is,
the optimized comps are still going to just do
what they've been doing forever,
which is blow out any other comp that's brought to the table
that isn't like a super well-made competitive comp.
So like, I don't feel like it changed much
for collectors or casual players and i feel like it really just boxed in competitive players so i
feel like we're not we're not getting the best of both worlds here we're kind of taking away from
both yeah all fair points man like you know us us here collectively of like i said this was like a throwback to 2022 um been in
been in the scene for a while watched it develop um and and yeah it's very difficult like a part of
me you know it might be irrational but i feel as if you know new experiences are obviously coming. We've leaned on the backs of community developments during that period
since 2022, experiences being built out from from talented individuals in the community.
But a part of me feels like, you know, it's easy to get stuck in the present
of what's happening and not to be overly ambitious of
of the future because of our you know experiences over the last few years and and it's it's difficult
to make good games it genuinely is right so um it's a tough one but still where i'm at when i
look at the present and i consider you know my view on on the ip of axi
as a whole you know i see i see origins this season and its environment as as rewarding for
me personally so that's my take but we got gade up here another professional player finished very high
in the in the leaderboards of the last few seasons and of course in some tournaments
so yeah i wanted to bring you up and and get your scope but yo
my foot meter is is high right now but gade give me all you got bro no censorship let's go what's up bro can you hear me that's good man yeah sounding good good nice uh i think the the
the main stuff of the party evolutions is that we are used so one dynamic into the game and now you are
knowing a whole different dynamic that you didn't know how it's gonna be yet so i think it's
scary a little bit like i got a lot scared uh when i first saw it uh but i like when people like cairo talks about it because i don't think you should always
be positive and enthusiastic about everything but i think there are some points to consider
before thinking that this is gonna kill the game or anything like that um
like that um like there is a lot of discussions about x not being a skilled game but i think the
point is even before where this queue is when uh when you're talking about a different dynamic
right before we had something that i didn't like very much that usually players just wait until
the last days so they see what's going on and buy a comp a composition that is meta and the play to
get as high as they can now we kind of need like to analyze the meta early decide and start grinding
and if we made the wrong judgment we can like change it because might not even be access available
into the market so that's one example of like having a different dynamic that like i'm not
saying it's better or it's worse for me it's better i like that way like like spam said you can't like just wait for the last days um another stuff i think that
there are a lot of things to consider other than levels you know like just one example i'm playing
spikes i was wondering if i got to level like 30 until the end of hair i don't know if to be possible i need like i'm not good at math like
logic but i was thinking about like what if i had a level 40 spikes and i was just that would make
like not that much of a difference you know what can i upgrade after upgrade like the three main parts uh having i don't know five more damage into sidebar
build make like my compass so op that the composite level 30 and to triumph wouldn't be able to
compete against me like i i i don't think so it might be it might be really op but uh the thing
with the new dynamic is that we don't know yet and it will
always be scary to getting into something new but but after the first day's playing uh the grinding
uh feeling like i'm i'm really excited to get like my team to level 20 and that feeling i think is something that's really good that's coming
and we'll be able to see a little bit more yeah not for real and it's like you know the evolutions
themselves added in new components to the meta you know it's like uh another form of having to learn
areas of the meta although you can read through spreadsheets
understand how cards work you know you haven't seen everything um and and played against
everything as well so there's that element that entices players to play and makes the grind
fun in these early stages for a lot of people um but yeah you know valid points valid concerns but
also you know it's there are there are positive points in there as
well i i agree with you though it's not you know it's not it's not good if the community is full of
you know just positivity and that's why we put these spaces on so i appreciate you coming up
here and sharing your opinion i appreciate everyone that's here to speak as being candid
uh as well at this point you know i'm i'm not gonna
i'm not saying we're leaving the season seven conversation we're an hour deep it's it's been
the main focus um is there any of you guys as speakers that have something you know that you
think needs to get put across as we start transitioning uh the combo over i can see
spam's hand oh just just a quick comment i
forgot to mention this you know how everyone's always called like axi pay to win and everything
like that um what's actually pretty cool now is i play expensive comps i'm playing a really
expensive comp right now and i'm losing to people that are playing cheap comps but the thing is they
were able to grind in off season so now these levels
you can grind to win instead of pay to win you have an option you're not just doomed no more
you have a secondary option right and then i think yeah i'm also losing a lot i'm also losing a lot
fam how long does something like that stay around and uh really like change the game though is that
a couple seasons until everyone's gotten their comps
to like all generally the same level?
Or do you think that that's going to be a consistent theme
across like season to season as we move forward?
Like will people buy new comps and level them up as much as they are?
Or are you just going to get like one comp to max?
And I don't know, like I'm wondering if in like three seasons from now,
is everyone level 60 on all their comps or on all their axes
and that's all they're playing with?
Because like right now, sure, you can lose to a team that is beating you in AXP
because it's a new feature, but how long does that novelty last?
Yeah, yeah, good question, good question.
I just want to say this uh for example with the
meta changes and that's the beauty of card games they're easiest to switch up spice up uh things of
that nature um last season one of the most strongest comps in the game was feather descend
right and we thought nothing was gonna be stronger than that they didn't even nerf it they just buff
something else so now someone that is um someone that maybe even like grinding up the feather descent team would still lose to a new meta.
You can create a new meta.
So it's not always going to be a level difference.
I do think they're doing a good job of aiming of the RPS format, right?
Where a team like, you know, a triangle of teams and each one beats each other.
And what's really cool is leveled axes have a chance.
They're not doomed.
And at the same time, they're not going to be overwhelmingly
overwhelmingly dominant over non-leveled axes.
And for the first season and experimenting
and just this like first season, it's not bad.
It's not bad so far, at least.
Don't quote me on that.
It's only day two into the season.
But I just really like, like, for example, I'm a aoe player and we have you know one of the most passionate aoe players in
the chat uh logic right um i'll be straight up blunt his team if it was like level one right now
it can't compete but the thing is i'm watching him level 20 and he's able to make these games close
or or make it interesting and that's pretty cool to me
but facts facts facts yeah the like and this is the thing like you you hear you hear feedback
and a lot of the you know complaints if you if you go back over the last year a lot of people's voiced opinion was it's pay to win and if i can't afford this actually i can't compete i can't do
this can't do that and and yeah but we're in an environment where if you grinded over the christmas break even with the
hard caps on a xp and and not it not being as plentiful as it is right now you got an advantage
right and you didn't pay for that you you put you paid with time experience so uh interesting stuff
we we've got hail up here as well logic is just logic is still here right logic don't you want to piece in on that yeah yeah no i
100 agree with what spam said like if i didn't grind every single day 30 energy every single day
all of december break my comp won't make it but i guess that's the beautiful beautiful part about the part evos right like
yesterday i ended stream five hours after and i was like top 15 or something like that
and you can 100 feel the power of vertical progression and we're kind of moving towards
this uh grind to win so i guess time is now more important than money at this point obviously if
you're trying to compete like you
have to have a good comp that's your first basis like you have to get a min max comp
as your very base layer and then you just straight up vertically progress like my my strategy is i'm
not changing comps i don't care i'm gonna be the first level 60 aoe player and i'm gonna hit like
fat damage right that's that's my strategy but some people's
strategy is is they're gonna switch comps per era um but yeah i'm just going for for the vertical
progression way because i see that sky mavis is going towards that route so i'm gonna move with
the wave rather than try to level up different comps i mean i have exp scholars too don't get me wrong if i really need to switch and aoe is not working i'm 100 gonna switch but i will try to not switch as much as
possible yeah yeah scholars that famous word um we're gonna start transitioning to this delegation
word i guess and we're gonna go to the delegation conversation soon but hey all this here thank you
for being here bro glad that you're up how do you feel man you've been listening in yeah
i've been in since uh the beginning i i just got home a little bit earlier so and i i hope no one
jumps on me i'm i'm sure like there's like five guys ready to put their hands up and be like nah
hail but like i just want to jump in and and say like you know i i fully resonate with like
whatever it was saying and i think like all of the concerns are super valid um definitely something
like i want to highlight and this is just coming from like this side where we know obviously
internally we try these things out and one of the things we really tried stressing on was like the
rps it's like spam sharing where we we intentionally tried like teams that were like highly leveled and pit them against
like teams that were essentially like their natural predators or their natural counters
and you know they still put up a good fight you know like you could be under leveled against
someone who's been grinding all uh christmas break you come in with just the right comp and
then you can take them out and so like the same thing still kind of applies with the season where
if you get a good read on what the meta is,
and you just know what's going to beat everyone else, because everyone's jumped on that train,
and you can still give yourself a good advantage, even if you're not grinding out 5-20 hours a day or whatever.
So at the end of the day, the very basic stuff is still kind of there.
But then now we have, again, Spam shared.
So I'm glad I don't have to repeat everything, he's already actually really shared like a lot of good points where someone who has fairly
leveled up their team is still going to be able to stay competitive even with these meta shifts
happening where under normal circumstances like in previous iteration of the game it's like well
sorry your team's just not meta anymore and you can't compete with these things that were bred like last week so you're kind of done but because of this um system that's in place now it's like well
you know i stuck it out i leveled my guys or like their children level 20 whatever
so i understand that i may be badly positioned right now but because you guys need to catch up
with these levels first i'm still kind of competitive so i can still kind of keep going at it and so and that's good because like i think a lot of people tend to experience uh that where
you just kind of hit a wall especially like when the meta suddenly shifts like anyone competitive
can understand like today is not the day for my team anymore like i was doing really well yesterday
but then all of a sudden everyone's suddenly playing sustain or the thing that beats my team
and all of a sudden everyone's suddenly playing sustain or the thing that beats my team so
generally i think like it's there's a lot more happening um it's not a perfect system like and
we don't expect it to be off the bat this is still the first season with part evolutions and i think
there's a lot to be discovered there's a lot of dynamics to be discovered and i have full faith
in like the community to kind of sort that out uh because they always do every single season just and it's it's always innovating and i think that's the
beauty of like just this discovery of like where the better goes and like what the new economy is
going to be like and what the new loops are going to be like so yeah yeah for real yeah i mean you
know that longevity factor resonates with a lot of the points that
have been put across as well in terms of like you know the scalability how fast you can scale now
um and i think the word fast is only used because of where we started right um so again you know
a lot of our environments are test environments for the most part but like living breathing
organisms that you know have have conscious and are aware to make changes where where they may
need to be made so yeah awesome we got go ahead sorry all right i was gonna say like one last
thing i'll i'll sit down because i feel like i know we're going to i know we're going to the
next thing i don't want to be about like this too much and i was gonna say one last thing. I'll sit down because I feel like I know we're going to the next thing. I don't want this to be about this too much.
And I was gonna say, I think everyone can also agree that the first two ascensions or your first two evolutions are usually the most impactful.
Very often, especially with the way that Origins played, you have a certain amount of cards that you will play more than the other cards.
The sixth thing you level up is probably the worst thing because that's why you leveled it up last right so essentially like you could always say like okay yeah level 60 but
then like i think it was gane who said a while ago it's like well if my spike team was like level 40
would it really be that much better than it is right now but it's level 20. not that really i
mean like objectively yes strictly better absolutely more hp more better stuff whatever but like how
much better and anyone who plays any mmos understands
like diminishing returns uh is absolutely a thing there's soft caps these kind of stuff
like you can only make yourself so much more better by percentage uh so like and particularly
because the amount of exp you need to go further increases that just adds on to the fact of that
diminishing return existing i think logic can definitely speak on that so yeah oh 100 diminishing returns is real like even in ro i mean it depends though
on the diminishing returns like i guess ro speak is like uh plus nine infiltrator versus plus 10
it's really not much of a difference but it's a huge difference is if you get a slotted infiltrator with a hydro card, you know, but again
That's like I don't think it applies here at least. Yeah, and I don't know what the fuck you talking about. So
But no, hey, if you had a rebuttal and then after you after your piece we're going to Trevor
No, no, no, no, no, I'm good like i came i saw and i'm gonna watch camis
all and yeah conquered bro just put it out there we love it hey big shout out to you because i know
it's it's it's so much bro like i want to just give that appreciation as well to the to the people
that are at sky mavis that work on these things because you know this is clearly not easy if you
were to turn to any of us in the community right now and say, well, what should we do?
You know,
I'd be fucking sweating.
I'm sure even the greatest minds in here would,
would have to really sit down and think about it,
work really hard towards it.
So shout out to you guys,
Trevor from the community.
We don't pull you up,
bro.
Yeah, man,
you've been listening in.
What is it that you wanted to bring to us today on top of this
conversation?
GM, GM. I just wanted to add on season seven before we moved on from that um i agree with what logic
says um definitely takes me a day to digest before just reacting um and one of the first things i
thought of when i see the gem store i'm kind of like what is this gotcha BS but then the more I
think about it and maybe Finn can give some clarification I think the reason we're heading
towards a gem store like we are is to be more US compliant or more app store compliant is that
correct yeah so it's actually a really interesting topic I think some people picked up on it a little bit, but like Apple doesn't let you do a lot, right? There are heavy restrictions in what you can do in the app
store. And so the Mavis store and in trying to create a centralized place is an attempt, at least,
you know, to look at how teams are going to be able to kind of operate in the world that Apple's going to restrict to.
Ultimately, we don't have the power to make Apple
change their decision to take a 30% cut,
have very restrictive rules on the applications for things.
Even when you have an app
that incorporates anything Web3 related with Apple,
there is quite a lot of due diligence
and back and forth that happens.
So there are ways that we have to think about
not letting something like that
inhibit the ability for the game to grow.
And for a larger audience to get onboarded,
we have to be thinking about those things.
And, you know, if a centralized place for where you access the,
you know, in-app purchases, they're not really in-app purchases, right?
Then that's like an angle that I think we're excited to, to take on,
because if that ends up being the solution,
then we'd rather be the ones that, that did it first and try to play catch up.
Yeah. Facts. Yeah. It's actually really important. Um,
and even when you talk about origins gems, like, yes, the web to fill to it,
but this isn't, this isn't consistent for every single month, but in,
in November, you know,
Sky and Mavis stated that they they shared 90 of the revenue generated through the origins shop um by the gems themselves and
that went to the origins vault uh and then obviously another 10 goes to the axi treasury
at in november all right so but the ability for them to do that to utilize that you know can be
redistributed within the community which which
is very much web three and not web two so um yeah man these are these are big things um
i'm i'm big on them you said it you know the app store stuff like that the percentages the fees
taken away it can suffocate the developers as well um so you know creating that environment i mean
yeah like you you can't even you can't even have the ability
to purchase an NFT like linked out through apps.
Like they're really, like even if it's,
like you can't redirect out to buy NFTs.
So I think us and a lot of other games
have to start thinking outside the box a little bit.
Like, you know, again, we can't let something like Apple
inhibit the growth of the game.
Oh, wow.
So that's why we had to have the gem store separate
from app.axi or even the Mavis hub,
because you can't have it direct you to buy an NFT.
So, yeah.
I mean, Apple changes their rulings on, like,
every couple of months.
But I think as of right now, one of the restrictions is you can't say like buy an NFT and have someone click a button and go buy the NFT.
There are teams that are working on like creative solutions. Honeyland, for instance, has an integration with Magic Eden
where they have an in-game store
which you can purchase using their in-game currency,
which is tied to a digital currency
which makes a purchase on Magic Eden in real time.
I don't know if that's 100% compliant,
but I think that's another example of a team taking an approach
to see what can we do that might work so yeah yeah yeah yeah Hale do you want to you want to jump in on that more
yeah I think like like it's it's and I'll be I'll say like this is something that
it's been on the table obviously I'm not saying this is going to happen but then like something
cool that we can maybe imagine make sometime in the far-flung future of origins or whatever
actually could be something like,
imagine you have these people playing the gems and then open up the shop and they're like,
you know what, I feel like buying a last stand room today.
And obviously the first thing I'm sure a few people hold up, you can't just make a last stand room pop out of thin air.
It's like, no, it's not going to.
The person is then going to see what is the floor price of the last standard that someone else in the community has listed on the shop and then offer it to the person who's in the app to purchase using these gems, which, by the way, are purchased with crypto.
So, like, if the app is able to perform something like, oh, cool, you've got gems.
Well, guess what?
Someone's selling last stand.
And if we convert it for you, it'll come out to this many gems.
And if you pick it up, we'll pay that guy and transfer this thing to you and you don't even touch a single
transaction like not one you'll so like again sorry to cut you here yeah basically alluding
towards an in-game secondary market possibility possibility like i mean like and this is just my
mind running i i obviously don't work on the same
thing but like if i if i could imagine like myself it's like if i wanted to buy something like off
the rack and be like yo you know what i need a i need an hp2 rune like right now and i'll be like
i i got gems i'm gonna pick one up right now the game's like pop all right cool i just bought one
off the floor for you here you go and i paid your man and you know get at it back in the arena with
you and didn't even sign in the transaction didn't have to open his wallet didn't have to get on that
taxi nothing it's just like here here's your rune off you go yeah this ties into like the freedom of
economy right like that that whole narrative which again like i i have no idea whether or
not apple's gonna be happy but then it's like if i had to imagine something cool that'd be what that'd be it for me and the best thing about that is like you can get these players
who have like no intention of touching anything blockchain because maybe they're just not into it
but then they can still interact they can still like be part of that ecosystem whether they know
it or not right so it's it's a great way to like maybe like on board people and there have been
games that did it that way like ni no kuni um you just download it off the of the store you play you think it was
like a regular game but it actually has like web 3 uh blockchain stuff in the back which you as a
player would never need to know about uh but if you wanted to you could awesome yeah these are
exciting exciting ideas you know where it goes you never know but we're here on the Ronin radio
Trevor you have anything else to add on to answer that I've got a hand up by Frank. So if not, we're gonna go there
No, thanks for having love that bro. Enjoy your day. Let's get it Frank. What's good, brother?
I just wanted to say thank you for having me here. Well now the jump not to another meeting
Just finished just wanted to say thank you for having me here right now the jump not to another meeting just finished evening on the conversation just about to transition to wait like it's apyreon
i'll have piku i'll have piku answer that uh but i really have to jump to another meeting but it's
a pleasure it's very encouraging to see such a tight-knit community here discussing everything
actually and uh yeah well thanks
for having me hey everyone's gonna see this as well bro trust me this is the ronin effect and
when people get that emotional attachment to your ip bro it's gonna be it's gonna be very much the
same and and we'd love to to do these things here on running radio for you guys as well so thank you
for coming through i honestly appreciate it um and i'm getting deep into pvp b who's gonna help me
shout out to guildless gamers there's a lot of
help there as well so um yeah much love bro oh wow all clean all right thank you for having me
i'll be up here next time you know what's you know you know what's funny man you know what is funny
run is two dollars bro that's hilarious bro welcome to the road in radio if you're just
tuning in now but you know you missed a fire back and forth conversation we're talking about the
axi season seven you know a lot of different opinions flying around but i believe from these
conversations we can you know we can we can forge out the best outcome in the future right we're
gonna build towards it um shout out to all of my speakers
here i fucking love you guys for being here but i'm i'm just i'm just gassed two dollar run we're
not even making too much noise either but uh round of applause for everyone here you like you like
your reasons for this shit happening let's go let's get it let's get it all right yo we spoke on season seven
for a minute like there's every opportunity and chance that we do go back towards it obviously
my speakers you know you guys feel free if you if you have things to do if you've got to disappear
you know i don't feel no way about about you having to do your responsibilities um and and
you're grateful for you to be here.
This is the time though.
We're going to make some transitions.
I do want to talk about land delegation.
So Cairo, if you're still going to be here, bro,
I will turn to you on that combo.
But first and foremost, I want to bring BQ out here.
It's a shame that Frank literally left
as I was about to turn towards the game itself.
But BQ, man, a lot of exciting things in store. a shame that frank literally left as i was about to turn towards the game itself but um biku man
a lot of exciting things in store i'm going to share this post uh that you put out uh the other
day um to do with the play to airdrop it's your time brother update us because a lot of us are in
the dark our focuses are elsewhere maybe you know with axie, and yeah, like give us the lowdown, man.
Cause I'm itching to get involved. And I know there's a lot of people in the community that
I might just not know enough information for them to, to really kickstart their, their journey.
All right. All right. Thanks for having me. Okay. So by the way, so just to get back,
so how you pronounce Aperon is basically basically just say so it's like saying i pay
ron i pay ron like i i pay ron you know but instead of i you say ah oh i'm out here saying ape i'm
a pinning on the a period all right okay cairo said this in discord i told him to off and i'm
sorry bro all right you're right there you go oh good all, all good. All right, so the play to Airdrop is already here,
but most of the time you're just accumulating points.
You're accumulating points based on your assets,
your Discord activity, your Marketplace activity.
So there's a lot to go through,
but baseline here is that you got to get into PvP.
The reason for this is because pvp is now available
to everybody you're not gated by assets you're not gated by community you can literally just
hop into the discord server go to pvp official that's the name of the channel and you can
download the pvp client right now and if you go to announcements you can already sign up for an early access for the
for the
Mobile version of the game. Oh
Don't wait
Because that's very important. This is how you get started. I just heard mobile version of the game
I'm about to shit my pants that all you need. Have you got some spare pants over there? Can we reload that one?
All right, we can work all right so i'm talking about
if you go to our if you go to our discord go to go to announcements uh i'm sorry not go to
announcements so if you um if you already hold the planet you can sign up um you can sign up for the
early access for um the mobile version of the. So no more having to be held back by a low spec PC.
If you're running a potato, that's fine.
As long as you have an Android phone or I'm not sure what version of iOS.
I'm not an Apple user.
Sorry, but yeah, you can play Aperon soon.
You can join PvP on it and PvP once that's available.
So yeah, how's your pants soiled
but let's get it let's get it that's that's that's fire to hear i know a couple people picked up
planets obviously out of the price point of a lot of people even myself you know a flashback to
logic's had to go for his stream now um so shout out to him for being here but and spam as well uh
but me and logic discussed on the day that it was launched and it was like do i buy this on eth i had
i had the liquidity low key but i i didn't make the jump and they came onto ronin they were still
roughly around the same price but there's a bit of a dip i'm i'm on the edge of my seat
and these types of things might convince me but for those that
don't have access to a planet the route is all right so so for those that don't have access to
a planet so there's going to be a delegation system in the future the only reason that you're
going to want to buy a planet right now the only reason you want to buy a planet right now is for the um for the points for the app for the anima airdrop it's only it's literally
only for the for the token right now but if you want to get into pvp and you want to learn hey
which one in the marketplace should i be buying which one is underpriced right now because i played this planet and this comp on pvp
using the early access um that's when you know to pick out the you know so you don't have to like
you don't have to like just go in blind you can play um you can play whatever planet all of the
planets are available to be played you can also play every apostle so you
not only are you pinging out the planets you're picking out your army um before even having to buy
you already know you can already educate yourself in your community just by doing the early access
pvp nice yeah man it's it's one of those things when it's new environments you know you pick up
a new game um solo dolo it's it can be very difficult so
one of those things that that is really helpful especially with web 3 is the community that are
based around these projects these games so first and foremost make sure you're following
aperon there you go um and you're heading into the discords and stuff but really truly shout out to our partners at guild
list gamer facilitating some stuff over here for us but of course in guildless gamers it's
there's an agenda but there's also some big brains um if you're looking to get started
that would be the top recommended place for you to go to um and yeah pvp bro you know we are in
actually oh yeah yeah but before i'm stopping you there but let's just real quick so uh i
we do have a giveaway we do have a giveaway for uh exclusively for those who um retweet
retweeted and like this um it's featured it's featured and the most recent one is is
Aperon if you scroll to the right once
you'll see bq's tweet go ahead and get involved some dude doodlic wings wings yeah it's a pre-mint
for the apostles which is also one of the um one of the things that can accumulate points for you
um for the anima airdrop i just i'm gonna say this yeah i'm gonna say this because it's also
the anima airdrop i just i'm gonna say this yeah i'm gonna say this because there's no apostles
nobody should pronounce the words that i am saying from aperon the same way as i am because i'm
clearly butchering every every part of the ip's wording at the moment you say dudelic
dudelic yeah dudelic wings that so they give you a free apostle mint essentially and and
the apostles mint a different like levels um and it's almost like pokemon where there's
like the the the evs and ivs well not evs because it's experience of ours the ivs right the
inherent values um so when you mint them they come with random stats um no no you actually
get to choose the stat you actually get to choose the stats when you play the
game um they randomly drop the high ones and it's the high ones that you want to mint out
so with this wings you get to play the pve game and in the pve game you collect the apostles and
once you collect the apostles and you know which apostle you want you're gonna you're gonna buff
him up by upgrading him in game before you mint him as an nft then as
an nft you can play him in the future you can sell it you can do whatever you want i played the pve and
when you get to the end well not the end whenever you finish the run like you do get to mint one of
those apostles right so that's that's the uh the incentive there play through the pve and then mint
an apostle you have it on chain if it's a good one there's an open market it's called
mavis market um so yeah it's beautiful to see that and there is there's actually there's liquid there
i checked out the market i remember when i tried the pve to see kind of where my stuff was fitting
and i thought i'm gonna keep this guy because it's not bad it's not bad at all so um i've yet to gone
back in and get deep with it but now that pvp is here and i've yet to
play it so i'm gonna definitely play it we're probably gonna do a stream uh beacom actually
to come through and help me because i'm dumb let's let's do it let's do it let's make some
content together a lot of people from gg is is aching to just get into the pvp and the you know
and all the uh the theory crap so you heard you
heard any anything anything else um that you would prompt anyone that's looking to get involved with
aparam right now get into get into the server once you get into the server just go to official pvp
um everything you need is going to be there the the download link how you well what what uh what
planets you want to play pretty much ask anything there i'm going to be there everyone is just um
everyone is just stoked to see new people that wants to really get into the game um yeah well
let's make it easier for everybody to get some tokens and get into aprons get it yeah man you won't see this shit every
thursday we'll have updates in that ecosystem as long as bq is around to be here with us so you
know you want updates on on april you know you can get them at the ronin radio as well but shout
out to bq bro appreciate you and anything you had from the season seven conversation have you been
playing axie as well i got into actually just i got into my account
just recently and i was like oh dang there's so many new stuff i i i looked at uh post two's uh
post about like about collection actually having their own leaderboard um and that i'm stuck to
getting into acts and getting to actually i'm actually pretty torn right now because i do love axie and i do love apron um then there's so much to say about both sides
because they're both shipping really hard and for us content creators it's hard to keep up you know
they they ronin just keeps shipping and we're like dang we can't make content fast enough you know
we can't grind both of these games fast enough yeah and that's true it's true we've been saying it for a few weeks obviously as ronin continues to grow
you know you're gonna find creators you'll find your niche or your niche if you're a weird
american i love you lot i'm sorry anyway um what do you mean by that bro you like say niche that
is the most like that gives me the ick straight niche who says who says niche
we say niche no no no yeah okay well i was in north carolina okay you're gonna use like one of the
lowest educated states in our country hey hold on hold on university was this man was paying
pretty pennies so i don't know they weren't really from north carolina so but niche was that made me almost vomit the first time i heard it anyway
niche all right capisce niche we're on we're on the boards but yeah people are gonna be you know
game specific and i love that right i love that bku brings us that knowledge and it's it's someone
from the community who i've known for a while and and can trust and and have a good relationship
with but that means so much more and brings so much value to the game for us to have people like
that in the community so if you're playing one of those games it might not be axi but one of our
games in the ronin ecosystem and you feel like people aren't talking enough about the things
you're excited about reach out to me let's get to know each other let's build a relationship and we're
going to build this out and hopefully eventually you know for all games in our ecosystem we have
our niche speakers you know i'm saying love it um cairo land delegation you are you are the real estate king for me right i'm not knowledgeable on
on homelands too much obviously the countdown to the homeless beta has begun um i know you're deep
in the mix right there so can you update us on everything that's been happening recently with homeland and uh and
your opinions on on land delegation yeah man uh so we just recently got the documents for
uh the land delegation and how it will all work uh i actually think for the first iteration it is
pretty good um basically you're going to be able to take your land that you own and then delegate it to a Ronin address.
And you can set up a whole bunch of things in regards to like a contract for that land.
And it even does like automatic payouts, which is really, really nice.
So as far as land delegation goes, it's cool to see. It's nice that we're finally
getting it. And I hope that it comes for general like Axie delegation very soon because that would
be a game changer. As far as everything else that's going on with land, I'll try to keep it
short because I'm not going to lie. I have not been liking where communication has been.
We're going into Homeland Beta, which is in what is supposed to be six days from now.
And we were just told this morning that we're going to get new information on the beta before this weekend.
So I'm hoping Friday or earlier, obviously.
And if we can get that information, it's incredibly important
because everything from the 24th forward for land
is going to be permanent progress.
So anything you do on your land will have permanent consequences.
And going into something like that with uh the beta is coming in
six days and it's like a lot of information to take in uh in like five to six days especially
for someone like me like yeah i currently run uh mark of the zeal it's the largest land guild in
axie we currently manage about uh 13 of total playable land.
And then going into the beta after the next couple of deals I'm about to close,
we should be playing about like 2,400 of the land plots or more,
which is a large chunk of the current total playable land.
And going into something that has permanent progress,
it's like we need information to be able to like properly
get everything sorted out, get everything delegated correctly and figure everything out.
So currently just waiting on more info. We should get to find out everything here before the weekend.
From what we know, what we should be finding out is where the reward structures will go from here.
where the reward structures will go from here.
So before now, or like currently and before now,
the land reward structures were 80% of the land rewards were in staking
and 20% of them were in active gameplay.
And we know that land staking is ending,
so that 80% is ending as soon as the beta starts.
And we don't know how the reward
structures will change for active we don't know if the entirety of that 80 is moving into active
or not so we're waiting to find that out but other than that yeah we have basically no info on what's
coming in the beta besides a brand new art rehaul this is now the third rework for art and land um i'm
hoping that we get a whole lot more content in the beta rather uh than what we've seen so far
all we've basically done in homeland up to this point is test the axs generation loops and the
drop loops and uh basically that's just like testing how your day-to-day activities drop
you access so now that they're going to be taking staking rewards away and implementing them into
active gameplay i'm hoping we're going to see more content layers on top of that so yeah that's about
all the info i have yeah so i mean you heard it here first man if you don't know jack about
homeland it's it you know a lot has happened
so there's a lot of diligent research to kind of be doing and it's about to you know really
initiate we have started to initiate phase two with delegation um and the rest of those things
are coming very soon but if you're trying to get involved with land cairo his guild definitely would recommend no
time wasters no bullshit geezers all right because cairo will probably will tell you to
fuck off as well same way i probably would mate but uh but yeah if you are interested in it because
the delegation feature is there now as well there's going to be a lot more opportunity um
so yeah man take advantage of that i would say if you are looking to play axie in
any capacity casually uh definitely be looking at the delegation uh coming up i'm sure that
there are going to be people that will matter how the reward structure ends up being,
I think that at the start, no one is going to know how to properly set up payment structures
or contracts. This is just coming from how it's gone in the pre-beta for me uh so i would guess that there's going to be uh it it could end up being pretty
lucrative if you find good deals is what i'm getting at so if you're looking to play axie
and you don't want to have to buy a team in origins and and learn how to be a good card game
player like me because i'm fucking terrible uh then definitely look into land delegation facts yeah opportunity everywhere
all types of gamers welcome rum running okay then fam we got my boy bro is in are you in are
you in a sway Lee's song take me on a trip to Guatemala mr. axis squad run what's good bro what's gucci yo hey man it's crazy out here yeah bro you getting it in i
know this coffee's coming um bro give give a quick i'm gonna give you the yo i'm gonna give you the
light real quick bro talk to me what's going on over there bro oh hey i appreciate it bro hey not
much man i'm trying to build some,
trying to build a
project right now
with coffee
because my family
owns coffee farms.
So I'm in a unique
position where
I own
about 30k
of coffee
supply
I just finished
getting my old
scholar from
my Axie Infinity
guild
because before I
used to have my
own guild,
which was Axie Squad
and then me and Slugfest merged
like two, almost three years ago.
And yeah, shout out to Slugfest, shout out to Slug2.
And then my scholar, because you know how
the whole scholarship system went down,
I told him, I was like, you know what, bro,
we started business together,
we're gonna keep doing business together.
So I have this opportunity of getting, paying, like this whole, pretty much an S Corp here in Guatemala for shipping,
exporting coffee out of the country through my scholar. So I paid for that. I've been paying
for that for like maybe like two years now. So, and then today's like the, this time around is
the first, the start of the season of coffee and my first shipments that I'm going to ship out.
So I'm going to try, I want to hope by next week I have the coffee in the air and I've sent to a couple continents.
And if I know that it gets there and the price isn't ridiculous and it's doable,
then I launched my project and people who hold my NFT will be able to claim a free pound of coffee bimonthly.
So this is a this is a project to give free shit like I don't I don't wanna
So this is a this is a project to give free shit.
Like, I don't I don't want to.
I'm tired of projects bro that like you you get in in the Genesis like as a Genesis holder and then
Everything else that comes out you have to somehow pay for it or pitch like you know
That's just not it's more of like you guys were my first
My Genesis collector holders. So you guys get rewarded on everything that I do and then
The nft isn't going to be
limited to just that income at that point i would launch the brand with the community on like fba
amazon and stuff like that and then whatever income or revenue comes through uh public sales
and that's what will be used for other gifts and and for uh for holders so like i got planned like
coffee mugs you know just a quick little sneak
peek it's gonna be like coffee mug avatars so eventually i do want to have um custom coffee
mugs made for of that of that artwork for the holders so it's just a lot of stuff that i want
to do get them in nifty island bro room around nifty island as a coffee mug
yeah bro but at the end of the day dog to be honest with you guys i want to just get I'm a room around Nifty Island as a coffee mug.
Yeah, bro.
But at the end of the day,
dog,
to be honest with you guys,
I want to just get that coffee going in the air first and then, and,
and then do all that other stuff.
Cause at the end of the day,
I feel like securing the revenue first would be the best option for my
holders.
And then,
but yeah,
so that's kind of like a little quick
thing about my project um but yeah but i actually came up here bro to talk about zoids because no
one ever talks about zoids yo do that then do that then bro because this is what i'm saying
i was about to i was going to end the show on the announcement factor where we we stream off
all of the information that has been going on in the Ronin ecosystem it's just that this week Thursday launch of season seven we know it's going to be a huge topic I wanted to
make sure we handled a situation where we could talk about it so um but yeah man I fuck with that
Vigo's gonna fuck with that so talk to me man what's going on with Zoids it's on the Mavis
hub if you didn't know it's there oh it's not I I'm lying. That's Aperon. I'm fucking... It needs to be there!
But it's... But tell me
how's it going?
It's in a Sky Mavis one.
How's Zoids?
How's Zoids?
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, bro.
I like it. I genuinely like it.
It's a different card-style game
since it auto-attacks.
So pretty much you just summon your guy
and at the end of your turn it auto-attacks. I like much you just summon your guy and at the end of your turn, it auto-attacks.
I like the cards.
It's retro to me.
It throws me back to when I used to watch the anime.
Great idea.
And I honestly think that
Zoids has a crazy potential on onboarding muggles.
Probably the highest potential of all the Ronin games
on the Ronin
network. Um, because of the way it's structured. So like the way you start the game is you
download the game and then in game and you could download it on the Android store, you know, so
you could go on your phone mobile and you download it. And then inside the menu, you click the menu
and it'll tell you, can buy packs so you can
buy a pack of 30 cards 10 cards or whatever using your credit card using your debit card
and it has nothing to do with crypto you can buy it right off your phone i think you could probably
even use apple pay don't quote me i haven't used i haven't tried like a tech service i used it once
and then my phone bill was fucking crazy i was like who the hell did this and i was like oh yeah me yeah so you pretty much don't touch crypto at all you downloaded the game from
the app store you paid the cards with your credit card and then you start playing the game you start
earning metal and then you can upgrade those cards to different grade classes adding more value to
them by just playing and using the metal to upgrade so to me it's like
exactly but see that's the thing is that that's what's gonna get the muggle it's gonna it's gonna
it because the thing about it is if you tell them oh it's crypto it's this download this wallet do
this do that they're gonna be like no that's too much homie i don't want to learn all that
and that's cool but if you're doing it through zoids right and you downloaded the game you like, you liked the game, you played it with your credit card. And then now you've noticed,
oh shit, there's this marketplace and my Zoid cards are on there. What? Hey, I have this grade
four and it's selling for 60 bucks. Like, okay, let me see how I can put my card on that marketplace.
And then that's going to be the incentive for someone to download the wallet see how it works and then post their things for uh whatever return they might want on the game that they've
been playing on their phone that they had no idea was even connected to crypto so i think if they
play their marketing correctly like uh like old school web 2 marketing for their mobile game i
think that could onboard a lot of people right yeah man i like to take i thought that originally you know as well act games like it's you know they got they got some good ips there and of course
zoids is is most definitely one of them the game like i enjoyed playing it like i really did when
we first tried it then it did some weird on my computer and then since then i just haven't
re-downloaded downloaded it i've literally been sitting here waiting for it to be on the Mavis Hub
and I'm going to get back involved.
So that's kind of like the limit, the catalyst for me is Mavis Hub.
You know, Vigo knows this.
Spoken to him a few times on Ronin Radio as well.
But yeah, shout out to Zoids as well.
Another great IP on the Ronin Chain.
Appreciate you for coming up here and i'm
shedding some light on to it bro and i want to say this i do i wish you all the best bro with with
your project and it's called pupils and make sure you know you guys sort some real shit out there
and and get done man love that thank you bro i appreciate it dog i'll see you guys later let's
go all right man like i said we've been here for a minute bro we've been here for a bro i appreciate it dog sure i'll see you guys later let's go all right man like i said
we've been here for a minute bro we've been here for a minute i appreciate all you guys tuning in
and listening with us i you know i hope to god you got some value and we ain't just being
bullshitting you i think you'd have left by now if he was just bullshitting you but
um some amazing conversations some amazing guests shout out to them for sure finn you appear with me
you know you you would be the last one standing as co-host oh yeah about uh today's show man it was a
good conversations it was good yeah i i like having these conversations i like when we get to like
talk about the meta i like that i like that uh that we get to have open dialogue,
and I get to hear from all types of players.
I think we had a cool conversation yesterday
talking about how not just one select bit of players' information
and feedback matters.
Everyone matters. It's really good to hear from a variety of people and feedback matters. Everyone matters.
And it's really good to hear from a variety of people
on feedback and changes.
It's been really cool.
Obviously, we're always iterating and changing
and evolving here at Sky Mavis across Axie,
across Ronin and everything.
And we will never get things perfect,
but we are always going to try to do new things
that push the industry forward that
push gaming forward that push axi forward so it's just it's dope it's exciting and like the whole
time we all get to play fun games so it's uh it's kind of that beautiful win win win so if you're
feeling like you're getting you're getting tied up in the moment or heated, like take a step back, take your deep breath, take the time to process,
like,
you know,
understand intentions are always to advance and move shit forward,
do the best we can.
And,
you know,
whenever I get frustrated,
I just go,
I just go lose some origins games.
I'm off origins right now,
by the way,
I'm,
I need to take a step back.
That's a rage.
And,
man, I'm just not having a good
morning i'm just not happy i have i've won like two games i've won like two games out of like
the 10 i play okay finn like i stream every single day now right at least my 2021 commitment i stream
every single day next week at some point let's make an hour at least where we can we will play with you
on stream right and we'll play on your account i'll co-pilot and we'll get chat to come through
i'm so down let's make it happen okay let's let's do it i'll schedule some time i'll come on you
guys can see the the weird comps i play with it's not a weird comp um i with. It's not a weird comp.
It's not a weird comp.
It's Triple Feather. It's not weird.
Yeah, right?
I feel like everyone thinks I'm playing this weird.
No, I'm just playing Triple Feather. I'm just like, I'm testing
a new...
There's one new Axie in the mix
and I'm not
used to running in so many
fucking Venom and Poison players and not having oh yeah that's
my axi that counters them and so i'm just getting like demolished over and over by like
20 stack poison counters so well that's the uh toxicity effect of uh you and your lizards we're
doing the damn thing that sounds like fun we're gonna get that
done um there's actually a audience member who is a good friend of mine he streams also he actually
plays the the you're talking about tri-owl with feathers yeah yeah he plays that so i'm gonna hit
him up as well i see if he'll come through from guildless gamers to mr gross um but there's a lot of players in there that are playing similar comps to that
they're getting to the most optimum version it's yeah it's feather has been my my favorite comp i
like kind of like i'm i'm a fan always of sort of a like uh the kind of like stack effects uh meta
so been been enjoying it but um god damn we're gonna we're
gonna make it happen it's gonna be fun it's gonna be fun um all right then let's get some attention
turned towards we've got a lot of featured tweets but these next one keep your eyes right there
right one of the big announcements not really big but i'm gonna scream and shout out back because we at two dollars motherfucker all right nansen i actually kind of shitted on them and said your
charts are dog shit so they started posting graphics that are not dog shit so shout out to
them um but yeah look at this nansen has put us well they haven't put us there the data has put
us there right as r Ronin being in December,
the fastest growing chain for the second month in a row. That means November, December,
we were booming like Metro. So, you know, with different events that are going on right now,
can we continue that momentum? You know, it's not like we need to, but we kind of,
we should, right? We kind of should. So it's nice to be need to but we kind of we should right we kind of should so
it's nice to be in that position to be recognized by these companies they are massive you know in
the scene people use them for validity and data um so these are always good things but shout out
to shout out to you lot the community people that are here talking about it posting about it you
know building communities inviting friends talking about it at your christmas dinner with your uncle who thinks you're a fucking weirdo but he's a dickhead anyway uh that's that's what
it's about all right shout out to the community uh the other thing pixels is right about here bro
everybody who's completed their puzzle event shout out to you and of course i saw a lot of posts on
twitter about that yesterday
and throughout the course of this morning um and i love that everybody that's been on the the play
to airdrop grind i i relate to you bro i did a week straight of that game it got more fun every
single day but my god it is yo it's not like this ain't a joke right but something to share with you
right now even if you haven't done the, you know,
you haven't gone through the whole grind,
you may as well leave the event with a memento
and that memento being the Pixels Jigsaw or whatever.
I don't know what the fuck it was actually called specifically,
but here, Tony Block, shout out to him from Buruku,
the guild in Pixels.
He has a thread where every single piece is available to be found.
So you can go and complete your puzzle today if you would like to do so.
I'm going to be doing so on stream just after this.
So it's going to be nice.
But that isn't the only thing that's going on in Pixels.
Of course, the event ends tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen.
So if you maintain in your position hold the fort
and keep on farming but we also have some fun and games for you lot tomorrow courtesy of tribally
games and i got rare here with us i hope i hope you know you can of course you can right bro the
floor is yours bro shill to me the tribally party bro because i'm i'm getting dressed up i
got a new i got a new nft that i'm gonna rock and uh and we're gonna be vibing we're gonna see chief
there there's gonna be a live stream a new a new nft do we is this do we get to hear well you see
the space the space today is sponsored and and and very, right? That's how we mean to continue.
So, you know, we're going to have conversations,
but there are projects out there that they want to show love.
And I appreciate that.
The Running Radio appreciates you.
Everybody that works on the project appreciates you.
And yet it's going to be able to facilitate something for that to be a reality.
Well, I'm currently uh battling with with karma i was
in the pixels discord earlier and there was some dude going going off on one about the servers
being down and his grumps can't die and i was like yeah chill out dude just just have some
it's it's difficult to manage when you go from 5k to 165 5k users in the space of like six weeks
and i think anyone that was around axi in the
early days will remember when the servers were down uh for like basically a week and then alex
famously said on a stream like if you don't like it cracked whatever is that psycho we need him on
the running radio i need to wild i'm joking i'm joking bro should i should i bring him out should i should we do you entice him out of his out of his cave yeah but when the time is right
time is right but but yeah he does he got a lot of heat for that but honestly the point was it
was fair right like if you're going to scream at people who are trying to make it you know
a game and it's growing rapidly and having no chill you you know just go somewhere else so i i i had a lot of respect for
him for saying that but as obviously as soon as i commented uh in the pixels discord um i tried to
get back to land one three three seven which is where fun and games are tomorrow and i haven't
been able to get in for the last two hours so my grumpkins are now dead um so so karma has uh slapped me down fairly swiftly
but yeah anyone that's been playing or going after the pixel airdrop you obviously need some energy
come along thousand energy in the drunken goose tomorrow starting at 11 utc if you've not been in
the pixels airdrop campaign then there are some fun and games with some cool prizes on Chiefs land, 1337.
There will be some, well, Saubek is an absolute monster.
He's built another obstacle course, which is like part maze, part tribally logo.
I don't know how he does these things in this game. So quickly, he's also an absolute beast when it comes to knowledge.
He's got this spreadsheet that we're currently trying to work into tribally somehow.
I've told him never to say the name.
He calls it a God sheet
and he's got a French accent
and he says God shit.
Yeah.
So yeah, it is a God sheet though.
I was just about to say the God sheet.
Honestly, it's a God sheet.
It's just like,
if you want to know what to farm
and when to farm it
and how to make the most berry
or how to make the most berry.
It's got everything. So Amy's trying to work that into something somehow.
But it may be it may be something for a for a later date.
We have a new UGC going live tomorrow. So the Tribely Chests went down pretty well. There's only 100 of them. I see someone's got one listed for 42,069 Berry on the marketplace, which made me giggle.
Chuck, I don't know if Chuck's in here today.
He actually sent me it and he was like, is this legit?
And I was like, yeah, it's up to you if you buy it though.
I'm not endorsing it.
We have another UGC going live tomorrow.
Again, we'll cap it to 100.
So once they're gone, they're gone.
Looking forward to it.
Shout out to Chief and TQ.
We'll be hosting that.
And all of the E4e guys who've put
it together and since he's here i just want to say thank you to finn for retweeting all of these
tooling announcements we've had over the last few weeks keep them coming please i love them now
uh we dropped a reputation tool yesterday which the idea is i mean i didn't know personally so
it works for an idiot like me but if you connect your mobile
um you get like extra 50 points there's all sorts of things i just didn't realize
um it has backfired slightly because pre pre-tool i was ranked 2000 i'm now ranked 2700
and i haven't stopped grinding so it's obviously been useful for 700 people um but if you haven't check it out truby.games
but yeah quinn quinn quinn fin appreciate you that's a new one i usually get phil oh that's
horrible so i'll take i'll take quinn i'm down with this sorry to all the phils just that you
named that it's a really unfortunate thing oh yeah i apologize also we're half of anyone called phil um so uh so yeah shout out to you uh we've got more things cooking
uh amy's gonna be on holiday at the end this month for a week so we're gonna have a week of no tools
let's start i'll build one but uh we we we are i think a couple of hours away from welcoming
gamer number 10 000 which is uh which is pretty and that is the
prompt right there because i mean it's huge it's organic growth right and the fact that we're about
to hit 10 000 gamers is is massive right i've been at tribally and it's it's you know it's it's been
amazing to see you guys you know take it on in the community um and you know get talking points around
in web 3 as well largely there's
a long way to go but the party tomorrow the rewards that we'll be giving out it will one
of the entry requirements will actually be having a tribely.games account so if you are going to go
through and get your hands on some rewards make sure you do have a tribely.games account before you do that uh good last thing go to kathleen's tweet okay
quote tweet it i'll pin it to the top
that's it i was gonna say yeah that's it for me
i will rug the show soon but oh man i want to bring mr 1437 my my good friend
phoeben up here man um you know i don't get to hear his voice so much now so you know i got
withdrawal symptoms and stuff um but yeah man thank you for coming through today first and foremost
no sign of you coming back anytime soon bro
if you're coming back anytime soon bro well you know you you never say never right you just have
to be patient i think uh i'll be back a lot sooner than you know you think because i just
i really just miss playing axie man it's just i'm having like withdrawal symptoms just like
listening in on these conversations
yeah bro and origins madness still go like you know the the event is still very much alive it's
still gonna happen when's the next one well as of right now um i'm it's gonna be going on hiatus
i think uh we'll have to wait and see okay like mysterious I see I see you but
yeah let's link up man we can have a we can't we have a combo again soon and
and yeah you know I appreciate you being here I'm trying to get my ass out there
to to maybe come in and link up and see you and maybe make some good make make
some good moves right some good little
content pieces but uh on that note lads and ladies it's been a pleasure two hours in the bank
you guys are awesome we've kept the numbers up real high i really appreciate it um and let's
keep going man and and you know the giveaway we're gonna divvy it out it's gonna be on the stream afterwards i am still live right now so make your way over to the twitch or on x here
you know it is what it is extra some crazy numbers bro i'll with it but um yeah we're gonna be
streaming some more actually finish that energy off uh and sort out the giveaway for sure um shout
out to you know the speakers like i said everyone that came up here
and to you guys the community uh for being here but like as like this sponsor going back into the
community is it's it's dope so you guys showing up showing support it leads towards you know more
opportunities like that and that that's that's the incentive and you know crazy shit i just i'm not
gonna put him on blast so i won't say it but someone just hopped into. And, you know, crazy shit. I just, I'm not going to put him on blast.
So I won't say it, but someone just hopped into the space who, you know,
there's a lot of admiration around in terms of the way that bro's moving in the space.
And, you know, I'm seeing similar effects with this right here
and kind of giving back to you lot as a community.
So let's hopefully we see more of that.
But two hours is too long, brother.
We ain't going for no longer.
Shout out to all of you guys.
And oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Oh, shit.
No, no, no.
Listen.
Okay, go quote tweet Kathleen's tweet right now.
Do the damn thing.
I'm not going to tell you what to say.
I want to see how your mind works, motherfucker.
All right.
So, but go quote tweet it.
You know, Ronin is the home of web free gamers do your damn thing take it where you need to go with it but
i've got something for you like oh my god this is this right here this right here is incredible so
i gotta prep myself for this one.
