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NFT Tonight! Ep. 43 - Disney Pinnacle Trading Event w/Bored Clint
Recorded: Aug. 11, 2025 Duration: 1:34:09Space Recording
Short Summary
The discussion highlights significant growth in user engagement and trading activity within the Disney Pinnacle NFT platform, driven by strategic partnerships and community-focused events. With over 1200 unique buyers for the new ABC set and a vibrant trading community, the platform is poised for continued success in the evolving NFT landscape.
Full Transcription
there we go it's actually working now
hey admiral t if you can uh hear this mtda what's up man if y'all can hear me
just give me a little thumbs up for
a a high five space has been rugging like crazy all right everybody's joining up now what's up
thanks for the thumbs up when space is rugged like that that is just like such a bummer because
everybody's trying to join you got all these links shared and then it's just it's so aggravating but
all right everybody's joining up we'll get borksman up here in one second and we'll rock and roll
geez is
Carson you there yes sir there we go I'm about to start posting this so aggravating i i that's
this is the fourth launch uh to get this thing running so sorry about that everybody uh sometimes
you know technology doesn't want to cooperate and then you know you're trying to play the can you
hear me now game which seems so wild but uh yeah if everybody will do a solid share it out um
and in discord and all the different groups you're in.
That way everybody knows to join up.
100%, 100%.
We'll get rock and roll and talk about the trading event.
And talk about the trading event.
Yeah, we'll talk about the marketplace last week, one coming up.
We'll talk about, ask if anybody wants to come up here, share any trades that they did.
We'll talk about the ABC drop, which I love, and getting absolutely bodied by all the DDs hitting the storefront.
Also go over, because Carson, you just said it, you're like, I thought I could buy multiple DDs in the storefront.
I was like, I probably should have told you that.
When you hit me up and you
said the x-wing hit the storefront dude i was getting ready to absolutely send it and i'm like
what do you mean i can only buy one that's insane i mean it is nice that it keeps supply down i mean
because if you let the supply just run wild people wreck it and then it you know you know how us
degenerates can get um so oh i guess that makes sense yeah you know it's it's
and whenever anybody talks about like yeah like do you think supply could be an issue for this
i mean like i guess yeah like supply could always be an issue if you can constantly add it but
it's one of the points i made to you and when i was first telling you about this is the total supply of a of a set is only
you know it's only it's based on the current demand or at that time what the demand is you
know it depends how many people buy the limited edition drops how many people mint the capsules
so it's not like there's a set amount i mean there is for the limited edition but they burn it if it
isn't bought out in a week so it it's a pretty interesting, you know, mechanism to make sure that, you know,
supply doesn't get, you know, out of hand.
Anyway, that's why you've got, you know, you've got Mowgli at, what, 82?
And that's something that they're like just at 100.
You know, if people ever want to complete those sets you know good luck
you know the price on the marketplace is so high yeah it's um interesting dynamic and then you
start you know getting into if they start gamifying it like oh you get this set you need to do this
and this set and get this or whatever game over um but i guess uh all right i guess we have enough
people in here.
Let's get started.
Happy Sunday, everybody.
We decided for the trading event to, um, push this off, you know, for the marketplace events. We are trying to do Saturdays that gives about a day for, you know, a day and a half for
listings, buys, you know, everything to kind of get settled since they're, they're limited
time events. And then for the trading, we're like,
let's give ourself a little more time to see if any big trades happen,
you know? And then also, um, since Carson and I are both on,
on both on the East coast, um, we wanted to push back,
make it a little later, hopefully get some people on the West coast involved.
So, um, I mean, I was really hoping we get dune and fob in here but you know
they're like oh we're out to dinner because they it's like come on come on guys we got a pinnacle
space but uh yeah dinner yeah eat dinner after come on people um but good things um carson you
make any moves i know you were busy this weekend I know you had a bunch of family stuff.
I know you're working, stuff like that.
I had a big trade with someone down.
Is she down here?
Is she down here?
Let me look.
I made a trade.
But the funny thing is, as we were talking earlier,
I can't remember what the trade was.
I know I got a Maleficent.
I know I got that.
And I picked up a couple star wars pens i forgot
what i gave over though i think it was that i know i hooked you up with a it was the lion king like
companion limited edition maybe but um i know you had a pretty good trade though yeah i uh i traded
the digital display snow white um for a beauty and the Beast set.
So that's what someone in the audience, I will not
announce who unless she says I can.
But that was a
nice trade.
That was a nice trade for both parties.
I love those princess
digital displays. I can't stop
getting enough of them.
Speaking of that,
I just realized I'm kind of LARPing right now,
right? Yeah.
Carson, congratulations.
He sold his CryptoPunk
over the weekend.
Maybe I'll change it
to a cop pin or
I'll do like
Pin Enthusiast and make it a Mowgli or
Sarah. That's what i'm gonna do
i'm gonna do snow white you're gonna see me as a snow white pin people are gonna be like
what the heck happened to carson you went from a crypto punk to snow white yeah only in uh the nft
space do i get a text he goes uh my crypto punk sold i'm like congrats he's like i basically
doubled up on it i'm like dude that's awesome he goes i'm kind of mad he's like the floor ripped i'm like what's the difference between the floor and you sold he's
like a couple eath i'm like all right i get it i get it but i'm like you know going back six
six months a year ago when the nft space was dead we'd be we'd be we'd be hyped for that. I'm like, take the W. Take the W, man.
In true degenerate crypto NFT space fashion,
and for people who are pin traders and aren't aware of it,
you're chasing the thumb a lot of times.
And it's like, there's certain collections you really want to be a part of
and hold for a long time, which apes and punks and some of those collections
are like that.
But it's like, at some point point there is a price you want to sell
and you're happy you sold until it actually sells.
And then you're like, well, crap, you know, now I want another one.
It's like, well, you didn't really sell it if you're just going to roll into another one.
So it's just one of those things.
You're going to be, you know, happy and kind of move on.
Happy and set at the same time.
Yeah, me being the sicko i'm
like all right i'm going online i'm gonna find you one oh i already looked i already went through
the collection like 30 times trying to see your wife's probably like what are you doing stop it
like no the funny thing is that's how it was the last couple weeks with
pinnacle you know on the marketplace you know you sit there you start looking at the different pens, and you're like,
this is going to 82 or whatever it is for Mowgli,
and you're like,
there's millions of fans.
It's like if Pinnacle,
Dapper, Flow,
Kruk can even reach a tiny
fraction of those,
there's not enough of these pens,
especially these early pens,
to go around for people to
actually complete sets like they want to and that's kind of the fun part the leaderboard
gamification kind of side of it that you know they make it fun to complete those sets and that's
why this trading of it's so cool i know uh clint you were um you've been like an animal this week
just trying to help everybody you can complete sets i've seen you in discord just
send pins to people and trying to help them complete sets which is fun because then people get excited about it and they you know the next step after completing sets is you want to complete
another set yeah it's one of it's um it's it's a beast to understand everything like there's a lot
of different you know just being in here from the, it's like kind of take it for granted.
Oh, limited edition.
And then you see how the open edition work.
But when you try and onboard people, it's like, you know, it's a lot to work through it.
So, you know, when someone does download the app and kind of takes the plunge, you know, it's the way you build it is one, people see people making stupid money and they like are like oh it's there's a
there's an incentive like a financial incentive to learn the other thing is like you know people
want to start collecting and it's you know it's up to the community members to really
show them and and tell them you know how the product works like what they think is valuable
and kind of walking through it so um yeah no it's like if like i always say i have a ton of
duplicate pins i mean i've built a huge collection and you know if it's you know equal value or
whatever like yeah i'm gonna help people so um you know that's that's been pretty cool i just
want to draw your attention real quick to the uh to the chat fob is letting you know he is in here
he's in the chat he's in down there that with that uh beast pen yeah that beast yeah he uh yeah there we go fob he said he's done
he's done with his uh fine dining at waffle house he got the all-star scattered covered and smothered
yeah but um you know it's been pretty cool because like i i've seen an uptick in i don't know other
people like like a lot of new people in the discords It seems like a lot of people like are starting to join. I actually asked
Diamond over there who's like our
You know
Flow blockchain guru could pull I swear on ETH. I'm great
I could pull up anything, but that's probably just from experience every other blockchain. I just I don't know what's going on
It's but um diamond pulls all these
stuff you go through the bitcoin mempool and just prepare to look like you're reading swahili it's
my ordinance i was like i can't do it like i don't know what i'm reading how do i speed this
up they're like you can't oh you can you have to get a membership on this website to speed i'm like
all right i'm not i'm not for this i'll skip this. But yeah, so shout out to Diamond there. He sent you know probably like roughly around a thousand people that you know have the
app or you know are participating in stuff you know they kind of probably check in they have pins
all that and you're going to start seeing those numbers and it's fun to monitor so um diamond i
asked them to look into it so um just to go over this so if you go to flowvana which is
great for pulling up some marketplace that's we've you know the amount of
unique buyers have increased over time I went from like 250 to 290 to 330 we were
just about 350 unique buyers now that's good you know it's not in the app it's a
separate website it's it's there's a little bit of a jump to make to get there
So I was like, all right 350 that kind of is in line with my theory of how many people are here
So then you go to the I was like how many people have minted this new ABC set and we could start talking about that and then do
Maybe this, you know, the the rest of the time we'll talk about trades
But for the ABC set you have 1200 unique buyers in like three or four days.
So it's just like that's a lot.
And you compare it to how many people are trading,
how many people are participating in the marketplace.
And what's the first thing you do if you download the app?
You're going to buy some capsules you know mints and
pins and i think star wars is a huge you know obviously huge ip and i absolutely love the abc
side i think it's so different than from everything else it's adorable um it so it's um it's fun but
those numbers are insane yeah 1200 unique buyers there's there's been per diamond and this is as of 856 tonight
uh 1196 unique buyers 10 115 pins sold so and then if you want to go with trade well 4800 pins
traded 830 separate transactions so um you know and listen to make a trade you have to be in the
discord and like really talking so like that's another thing it's not just going online pressing
buy like you're interacting with people so like unique traders i would think would be less than
the you know unique buyers in a marketplace but um you had 1200 unique buyers for for a new drop
is awesome to say and i think it's going to just keep on as more people find out about it, keeps on going up.
It'll be cool to see, I mean, obviously since it's an ABC set,
it'll be cool to see how this first drop, you know,
and maybe drop four or five, you know, do the numbers keep growing?
Do they slow down?
Do people get kind of fatigued?
Like is there a middle set that has like the letter
Whatever, you know, T in it
And it's just, you know
It's the planet Tatooine or whatever T is
I don't remember, and you know there's
60 or 80 and it just doesn't hit the store
Front and people just don't really pay attention or
You know, it'll be cool to see how that ends up
When it comes time to make a full set
And people are trying to make a full set
Of DDs, that'll be The ABC with 26 pins It's going to be a behem time to make a full set and people are trying to make a full set of DDs, that'll be, uh, that's going to be nice.
The ABC with 26 pins,
it's going to be a behemoth to make that master set and it'll be fun to see
how many there actually are. I actually think,
and it's something me going through the marketplace and I probably shouldn't
say this because this is how I'm going to probably start buying the next one.
I don't think we're going to ever see a DD under a hundred.
I don't think we're going to ever see another one under under 150. like you look at one of the bugs life pins and you're talking about a total
number of total number of items for a digital display because like you started looking at it
there was what was it the um i'm gonna butcher the the bug's name the the big fat one in bugs
in bugs life uh what was it um uh what was his name what was his name i'm like bro i can't yeah
i'm like there we go um it's been a while since i see the movie but like he like that one never hit
the store uh the the the rotating storefront and i think it hit like day of like the last day it
could have um and it was already at like 196 minutes so that means from people opening up
the capsules it was at 196 so you're looking at like if these numbers continue to grow these like
under 200 dds are going to be again like down the road you look at it very small numbers and then
you start comparing that to the limited edition and it's like oh yeah well limited digitalness
299 at 333 like your mind could really start getting ahead of yourself you start projecting where where where everything's going to
be um you're looking at this totally different than i would and i really like that because i
look at this as more of an experience and i look at it as i'm going to acquire every one of these
so that all the little people that i have in my life that need to learn their ABCs are going to learn it this way with me.
And if I can get a video of the little kid coming up going W is for Wookie.
I think that is going to be just the bee's knees.
Nah, see, that's awesome. You know, it's, yeah, I mean,
it's such a create and honestly, it's so creative and it,
the art they put out there and it's, it's so creative and it, the,
the art they put out there and it's, it's a risk what they did. Like, I mean,
I like, I'd love to get, um, yo Steph to,
to see if there's anything like in the physical, um,
traditional pin collecting world that's, that's similar to this, or if this is like completely different because, um,
it's not like any other set that
they've released in the past two plus years so um i love it i don't know how i missed i don't know
how i missed this sheet uh penthusiast just shared if uh if people don't hop in the chats
uh it's it's pretty cool there's a ton of people that put good information on there but
uh it's a it's a tweet originally from Diamond from six days ago.
And it's all the art.
And oh, my gosh.
I mean, Fett, Stormtrooper, Vader, Yoda.
I mean, those are insane.
They look so cool.
Yeah.
So I looked at this one.
Like, I mean, the Yoda, the Vader, Stormtrooper, awesome.
I mean, Boba Fett's, like, my favorite anyways.
Yeah, there was another one that I wasett's like my favorite anyways but yeah there was
another one that i was like oh my god like the c3po oh my god like the boba fett another one
bb8 so cool c3po looks awesome fit i mean uh princess leia's i mean they're all really great
vader's obviously just like undefeated yeah it's just like and again it's different you know and
i like how different it is and again it's a risk it's not like anything else like you know it's i like what
they're doing it's a really lengthy drop from uh luke from uh flow who's who's up here like
listening in just changed his to uh to luke the pen which is that's really cool yeah no it's luke
you should come up and explain how Flow Blockchain works.
Help us out.
Give us some insider baseball.
Yeah, I'd love that.
But yeah, no, it's been fun.
It's a fun drop and it's different.
So normally you have, like, you know, I mean,
I don't think it's ever been different, but it's been, and Luke's coming up here.
What a legend.
Thank you for, for one, being on this and supporting and, you know,
coming up here.
But normally the drops are like three characters or three different,
you know, at a time on the rotating storefront.
I think this is the first time they're doing like six.
So it's going to be like five or six each time.
It's throwing everything off.
I think that's why everybody went so hard in the paint in the beginning and started max buying capsules um you know i mean i was like all right i'm like 140
capsules in i'm like what am i doing i'm like all these might hit the storefront but um it's been
fun luke welcome man thank you for coming up i know thank you for having me um i mean look guys
it is a oh i love your, it is a Sunday night.
So I don't know if you're going to get great answers from me about difficult questions like how does flow work?
Well, of course, happy to give any question and answer. Give it a go.
I mean, off the bat, I want to say I was just loving you guys kind of calling out the reality that what the Pinnacle team have been up to.
Obviously, working very closely with them from a kind of external but semi-internal perspective right like i couldn't tell you
what's coming down the line but they tend to give us a heads up oh this drop's coming out right
um and so when i heard about the like the the a to z star wars approach i was like oh i don't i
don't think this is it like i don't think it's gonna go well and then i am quickly eating my
words because i agree with you guys it actually looks amazing i think what they've done i agree it's somewhat of a risk in the sense that it's unusual
but like i love that they can experiment like that and get rapid feedback in a way you just
couldn't with like physical pins you know like i have no idea i mean again i'm not that close to
the disney side of things i think i mentioned that to you before clint but like i imagine it's hard
to talk to the people who make the physical pins but like i know the people that make the digital ones i see the process and i think it's really
cool that they can hear feedback directly from community members and use that to iterate and
improve on down the line um and so i think it's cool when people are like oh we love that you're
doing stuff that's different and experimental let's do more of that i can't say the pinnacle
team will or not but i know they can definitely hear the feedback and i think that's definitely
a kind of that community driven approach that i think
digital can really shine in as well as long as you know as well as all the other benefits you
guys are hyper aware of but even just the ability to take i didn't want to call it risks because
that sounds so dramatic but it does feel like they took a bit of a swing with this set and so
i'm glad to see it paid off um and again i did not predict that so i'm very glad i was wrong so to
speak no 100 and you
know the other thing though is like you do take a risk and if it's if it's not a well-received
drop people just don't buy it exactly you get that feedback you don't have to wait like six
weeks of it being in a shop you know within like once you launch it straight away you know
yeah but then and then you look at you know some of the other pins that are on the marketplace
trading for so much and it's the the bunny like the eggs i saw
these i was like what is going on here and now you look at it it's like well one only has 62
half of those are like in a disney wallet so like there's only 30 and then you start getting into
the people you know that want to complete a master set like you know every single pin and
it's just um you know those get valuable
because some people look at low supply and they're like all right like 100 you know i want that yeah
and um so it just creates a different type of dynamic and it's it's cool to say it really is
no yeah i agree the kind of and again like i just think it's where digital shines because you get
instant you as users can also see which pins be minted to
what demand so it's not like the information is hidden um i think it's pretty fun to see kind of
the different dynamics at play like i think it was uh sorry i don't want to butcher the name the
other speaker the double daddy oh i don't know i can be saying that name too often but yeah the
double daddy was talking about how he collects for uh more of a kind of oh i want the full set
and you're then over here,
I think it was Clayton or Carson was saying,
oh, I collect based on like the serial numbers
and what's got the lowest.
And I think it's...
Carson with the soundboard over there.
You need to get the Seinfeld little like...
I need to hear my name more.
That was great.
I'm laughing because...
After the last reason, I called someone and said,
bro, I'm not calling that dude double anymore.
I'm not calling that dude double anymore. It's so funny that you just hear him.
Yeah, there was that slight pause where I was like,
I shouldn't have said that i work
on flow professionally if i now have to talk to double daddy you know it doesn't quite feel right
you know maybe maybe it's a great change
all right i uh no you gotta keep it now we just we have to hear all the new people just
struggle when they come up to say it. But that's great information, Luke.
That was great information.
And something to pass back to the team in these spaces, something that continues to come up is how people are interacting with these pins and trading pins and buying stuff on the marketplace and all that.
And don't even really realize they're operating on a blockchain.
And that ownership is something for
us that have been in the web 3 side on the digital creator side and all that uh that ownership um
verifiably on chain is is very important to us but um it's not quite as important to to new people
quite yet it will be i think but being able to to do all that uh and that being on a blockchain
without knowing it uh y'all are
doing a phenomenal job so i just wanted to send kudos uh to you guys on the team uh no i appreciate
that and look obviously i'm i'm somewhat biased here but that is the power of flow it makes it
so easy to abstract the user experience away from a clunky kind of what maybe most people
in web3 are more used to um and i think the whole space has definitely shifted more towards it but
still in my opinion,
Disney Pinnacle is probably, if not,
one of the best Web3 applications out there.
And I agree that I think New Year's is,
like, they don't care, but they do care.
Like, they care about the result.
They care about the outcome,
which is that they can prove how many of these pins are minted
and that they can know that it's, like, secure or legit.
But they don't really care about the technology that allows it.
They just care about the result.
And I think that is something that instinctively collectors do like.
They just don't see it.
And when it gets explained to them, they're kind of like,
oh yeah, that's exactly how I would expect a digital collectible to be,
you know, to have provenance, to be fair, to be transparent.
I think it should be just the standard.
And so I agree that as time goes on,
more and more of the new wave of collectors that are signing up through whether it's the disney plus partnership or just hearing about
it more and more i think that over time will also become much like probably yourselves end up being
like hardcore into the whole ethos and principles behind digital assets um because i imagine you
guys i don't know if you started with crypto points so you came through like the 2020 years
or whatever it was but i imagine you had a similar experience of being like i don't know how much i care about the blockchain side whereas now it's
like one of the most important assets or part of the digital asset experience you know man your
passion you just hear it in every word i love it uh man i've been here for a minute you know how
it is guys i think anyone who's been around since the early days at this point you can't stay here
if you've not got a passion for the ups and downs and feels like nfts are kind of on the back like
i don't know they don't want to talk too early touch wood it feels like they're kind of back on
the attention sphere and so i don't know if we're going to see a ton more kind of activity or what
it's going to look like over the next six 12 months but i think now's the time to be excited
and passionate again for it i think like the whole space is starting to turn their heads back towards it yeah you're definitely starting to see more people talk about it
even in the mainstream you're starting to see some things uh some people talk about it there but
yeah i mean i i think just seeing like being able to see if something sold out or how many
or what the demand is like on the blockchain just reading reading it. It's so important. You guys are a hundred percent right.
More people, the newer users are going to come in and see the,
the, the value in there.
But all right, so let's.
All right, Clint, you're,
you're stuck in a car for three hours with someone.
Do you want to stick in?
Do you want to be in the car with someone who's passionate about web three
CrossFit or being a vegan? What if you got to be in the car with someone who's passionate about Web3, CrossFit, or being a vegan?
You've got to choose one.
Oh, no.
It's horrific because I am, in fact, a vegan as well.
So I'm two of the three already.
So I am the worst person to be stuck in a car with.
So that's one for you to keep in mind.
No, clearly I'd pick someone passionate about Web3 because there's so much depth to it.
Like we are on the cutting edge of a whole new technology.
And I think you guys can probably relate to this.
I forget when I go and talk to like my friends, quote unquote, the normies, my family who
haven't heard about crypto much outside of Bitcoin.
I forget like how little the kind of depth of this space is talked about.
None of my friends in real life are talking about zero knowledge proofs or roll ups or
like L2s versus L3s versus L2s.
You know what I mean?
And so like I honestly think there is always fun to be had in these conversations because everyone has a different
perspective and i guess i'd love to hear from you guys kind of you know doing a little bit of
market research so to speak but i'm curious when you're talking about disney pinnacle to people
how do you kind of introduce it like do you even bother talking about the nft part of it or like
you straight to the kind of just a range of assets and IP it has well Clint you probably hop on first because Clint uh he gave he red pilled me a couple of weeks ago
um so Clint you can go first and then I'll tell you from the from the normie side to pinnacle how
you know how I kind of let me hear that question again sorry I was getting pinged over there by
somebody I no I can take it he just wanted to know like
how are we onboarding people and so like for me from just the last couple weeks uh talking to
some people that you know i'm associated with it it really depends on where they're coming from
is kind of how you meet them so from like the my nft friends who that's basically who i've been
trying to you know kind of not like onboard because it's, that's, it's not really onboarding them.
It's more or less like, Hey guys,
do you remember that insane run that NFTs took when NBA top shot went crazy
and absolutely just liquidity was going crazy.
Like I think we might be on the cusp of that again with Disney pinnacle.
And so like, they're kind of looking at it.
And now all of a sudden, like quite a few people have said, Oh,
I thought these were digital pins that like you would redeem for physical pins.
Like they didn't really realize, you know, kind of how it worked.
And now they're starting to dip their toes in it and people are starting to get some pins.
And like now they're doing the trading events and trading.
So it really depends on who you're talking to.
Like my brother is on here.
He's down here in the in the crowd somewhere
uh micah and you know for him he's kind of a disney super fan so they actually like to get
pins uh yo uh what is her name she's down here um yo step she's she's at the at the parks like
three days a week getting like you know the cast member sets and like you know really a pin trader
so i think how you approach the conversation depends sets and like you know really a pin trader so i think
how you approach the conversation depends on who you're talking to but i really think this is
something that can really meet all the different groups of people where they are because disney
has such a huge net and most people know they're not going to do something unless they think they
can really do it at a high level and you can see see with the way that Pinnacle and Flow and Disney
are all kind of working together, Dapper, the whole team,
putting a hell of a project together as far as I'm concerned.
They're doing a really good job.
Yeah, I mean, look, I super agree.
I wish I could sit here and be like, oh, thank you.
I did all the work.
But honestly, I have no direct involvement on Pinnacle.
So I completely agree. But what I can say is like from someone who's just seen it from
slightly closer the team are working super hard for sure and i think that to pull off the seamless
experience of like the trading weekend or the marketplace weekend event just even the fact that
like they're able to pull off like time box events over the weekend for a web free app on mobile and
it feel relatively seamless i think that alone is like
leaps and bounds ahead of most of the space not throwing shade anywhere else things like that
and just want to like think it's so exciting because we have that like hey you can collect
digital assets from a big IP in your pocket on the go on a Saturday when you're at the park or
when you're not at the park when you're at home and so like I do think it's something special
and I agree obviously how you talk about it it is going to vary based on who you chat to.
I guess, Clint, is there anything like when you're talking about it, what do you find is what you get most excited about or is what gets people?
How did you quote unquote red pill casting?
What I would say is green pill.
How did you green pill casting from your perspective?
Yeah, you know, it's something.
So when I saw this project first start, I um i mean like i love star wars i think
over covet i got into the um uh i started watching like clone wars and like i remember from when i
was growing up and i was like oh let me like start watching this and then rebels and i was like oh
this is sick you know i'm like oh look at this dar Maul. I'm like, he's not dead. Like what? You know?
And I started like really getting into it and I'm like, all right, you know,
and then I saw, I'm like, Oh,
I'm going to just start collecting that stuff.
And I've said this before to other people, but like, I,
I did it as like more of a hobby because I know there wasn't like a marketplace
out yet. And like, I'm like, all right, you know, when that drops,
like maybe it turns into a financial incentive. And I started telling Carson about it and I'm like, I was, I was like, I know, when that drops, like maybe it turns into a financial incentive.
And I started telling Carson about it.
And I'm like, I was like, I think you'd like this.
Like, it's fun.
So then it went from me just like sort of collecting some stuff.
And then it was fun.
And then the trading event, it was during, like, I'm pretty sure that was like during the NFT bear market.
And I'm like, oh, this is the first time.
And I remember Adam Hollander saying the same thing.
Like, he tweeted something.
Like, it was like interacting with everybody on Discord, trying to complete sets, like, you know, talking to everybody like that was a ton of fun.
I'm like, all right, like I'm having a good time here.
And then I was like, you know, all right, well, you need the marketplace to like really take that next step.
But and then once like what really got me hooked thinking that this is going to be bigger was the Disney Plus news.
Because like that to me is like, all right, there's there's some incentive and like Disney's kind of putting some stuff behind it.
Because like that's a might not seem like a big deal, but to me, that's a big deal.
Like that's not just them licensing their IP and kind of being like, all right, let's just try to make it.
But that's them giving stuff away, tying it to, you know know one of their biggest products out there um so that was pretty big and that's when i said to you know i started talking
to carson i was like there's there's there's something more going on here and you know i'm
like download the app start playing around with it like i'll send you some pins to get you started
like you know it's a lot to get in there but i'm like let me know if you think this is like the product's good and the app's good and you're having fun
and carson like i've said it to everybody you know he has a great mind for projects and like
critiquing sorry to keep on going but he said he's having a good like it's fun and i'm like all right
that's that's what i need like that's i'm good you, what you actually did,
you know how you red-filled me?
You sent me that picture of the Darth Maul pin.
And I said, oh yeah, I gotta have a Darth Maul pin.
That's what sold me was
Darth Maul, one of my favorite characters
in Star Wars. I love Star Wars.
And I was, I think that's
so you red and black-filled me.
Yeah, yeah.
And you said you love Star Wars. I'm like, yeah, you gotta look at this one.
I'm like, I got like five, but I'm like, you gotta get a couple. But, um, I, I got something
to add here because I got a third way that, uh, I introduced people if that's all right.
Of course. Jump in. So I go for their kids. I know that sounds terrible, but what I do is I find their kids and I put a magic reveal in front of them.
as soon as they spin it,
they run off with my phone and they spin all the magic reveals. And then they go to their parents.
I need magic reveals,
get magic reveals.
What can you,
what else are they going to do at that point?
Keeps the kid busy and they're very happy.
that's,
and that's the other thing.
Everybody says it's fun to, you know, it's a fun project to you know be involved with
with your kids like to buy pins to do the capsule reveal you know all that stuff another big thing
luke was the genesis pins how they did that didn't ask for any money it was just time and obviously
they wanted to get people towards the you know the app and more users on it, but like more people downloading, but it was, it was pushing people,
you know, but those sold for 30 and 25 grand, you know,
they could have had an auction on that and called it a day, but you know,
they, they had bigger intentions. So that was,
that was pretty cool to me also to see that.
No, I agree.
I think the team have taken a really balanced approach of like, you know,
as you're no doubt aware, there needs to be some revenue.
And I get every product, every app to be sustainable has to have that revenue.
But I think the team have made good choices of, you know, even having pins available for limited amounts of time, as you guys were getting to kind of talking about earlier.
Like, yeah, in theory, they could sell thousands that way or they might just sell hundreds.
they might just do hundreds and even just saying,
And even just saying, hey, we're going to let the community decide. I think you don't see that that often.
Hey,
we're going to let the community decide.
I think you don't see that that often.
And I think the Genesis pins are just another example of that,
of like,
look,
the community ultimately gets to decide the release date of these things
based on how active they are.
And I think it's like,
to me,
it's why I always envision that web free,
web free collectible apps should be like,
so I do think it's really cool.
And the,
just to go back to it,
the beauty of Disney is that everyone loves some of the ip like i for one
you know my handle's el dumbo i'm waiting for the elephant i'm waiting for the dumbo elephant to be
in there and then you're going to see me going hard on the marketplace bar and all that i have
no idea if it's coming i don't know if that is a thing that we'll ever see but if it is that's where
like that's my grail i think that's what's really cool if you compare it to other collectibles
the grails tend to be way more defined by the culture right like an nba top shot or whatever the sports spectrum you want to use
obviously i'm very familiar with top shot because i was also on flow like the lebron and the wembys
and the lamellos they're all the kind of grails they're rare legendary moments to these great
players whereas what you have with disney is like yeah you might go nuts after staff mall i might go
nuts after like dumbo elephant and then someone else might go nuts for like an entirely different ip i think it's really cool because as they keep doing
different drops and different storefront capsules and whatnot sooner or later somebody's going to
see a pin they want to get like i think it's like if everyone had the app today i think it's just a
matter of time that everyone was also using and purchasing pins because sooner or later some of
the ip will appeal to you that's the beauty of disney uh and i think that's what i'm really excited about as they keep adding more as you
see what's like like for example i don't know what you guys think i don't want to be throwing
shade or nothing i'm not a big fan of cars i haven't bought any of the cars uh capsules i
don't know if you guys bought any of the like star packs for cars or anything you don't have
flow and you work for flow i don't have all the flow nfts i'll tell you that so like i haven't got any of the cars ones but i've
stacked up on the i got a few of the capsules from the alphabet i'm excited for like more of
them hence you can see the loop oh i'm just giving you the gears brother no i know i know you are but
like i just want to be clear it's not like i'm like completely only buying one or two um i'm just
like i don't want to buy all of them are you literally just stuck in all of them? So I gave up on going for – I wonder about it different.
I gave up on going for a master set.
I didn't want – like I just – it was going to be too much and cost too much.
And then I was like, I don't really care about this one pin.
But like you said it, the IP is unmatched for Disney products.
So there's something for everybody.
I mean, it's the nostalgia factor of stuff you've watched growing up.
Or it's, you know, you have kids and you're now watching that stuff again with them.
Or it's just stuff that, you know, you like.
Or if you're a Disney fan or, you know, Star Wars or whatever it is.
Toy Story, Lion King.
I mean, it's everything.
But so if you're talking about how fast it is,
just like something we've kind of passed over, like how fast and easy it is.
I know I just mentioned my brother.
He's down there listening.
He's a big Disney fan.
He just downloaded the app, made an account, and he just popped a vial.
He just did a magic reveal and got a gold x-wing so that's
his first pin he just got listening on this basis um he just wrote me he says he's like oh god i'm
a dj so it looks like i want to drop his uh his username in the discord and i'll give him a bunch
of pins a nice little welcome welcome pack have you got a link for the uh discord i don't think
i'm in it i want to crush it yeah
yeah well i'll post it under this but um let's get into it listen if there there are people below
that want to talk about some trades they made put up your hand come on up we'll start talking
about trading um if there's i mean it seems like a lot of people on here are people from
um pinnacle but we'll just go over it certain weekends and it was something that they did
um like i don't know like a couple months into the project they over it certain weekends and it was something that they did like I don't know
like a couple months into the project they had a trading weekend and it was something where
you know you go in the app they open up like this new tab opens up and you could start trading and
you type in usernames you add some pins you send it you go back and forth you can chat over the app
you can go in discord and you work out deals and it's very cool it's a it's a way to meet people one but also like a way where you're not adding any more money you're you know you're just
trading pins pin for pin or whatever and you try and complete your sets or like and more if you're
like oh i think this is an undervalued pin i want to get you know like 10 of that or whatever it is
but it's um so it ends tomorrow at noon i believe believe. And then the following week, we have the marketplace event.
But if no one comes up here to start talking about trades,
then I guess we'll kind of move on to the – we'll talk about some other stuff.
Oh, I'm ready to chat about trades, brother.
All right, get into it.
So you guys – I got here a little late.
I apologize.
I heard you talking about Flovana,
and I asked Tomcat to wait until the spaces began to accept
the big trade that we had. So I did recently trade him a globe and a few other pins for a sadness pin.
And it took us a few minutes to get there. So I feel like it's a good example of what it will take
or a good example of what we can talk about how to how to make trades better so
uh this originally started off as i offered a slipper for the sadness uh realistically i
undervalued his end a little bit um i immediately canceled the trade i sent him another trade that
was the slipper and shadow to the throne from the lion king le um that was not enough for him to
move it i thought it was a pretty fair value uh he countered back he asked for the sliver and the elsa
le that i had and i thought that was a bit too steep so we chatted it out a little bit back and
forth and then he noticed that i had an extra nemo kicking around so So a Nemo LE, not a DD. And he said, you know
what, throw in the Nemo and I think we can sew this one up. And I thought, you know what, I love
working with Tomcat. He's on the other side of the planet. He lives a very different life than I do.
And I love making deals with the guys. So we made a big trade happen. I know this guy doesn't get a
lot of globes. So, I mean, there's a great example of talking it out.
You know, if you can't reach something in a one-to-one,
then add more on one side or the other side.
Try to bulk up your trade or try to include more of what you have available
to make the trade viable.
And in this case, we pulled it off.
That's awesome. Yeah, Tomcat,. And in this case, we pulled it off. That's awesome.
Yeah, Tomcat, a legend in this space.
I first came across him in one of the trade events,
and I think he was up for like three and a half straight days.
So I was like, what's he taking?
How do I get it?
That's one of the fun things that the blockchain uh groups that have kind of
jumped in this that's one of the fun things that this allows you know discord and the web3 side
and all that you like you just never know who you're gonna meet people from across the world
uh people in the same town it's just it opens up this gigantic community and this gigantic net for
us all to you know kind of be in.
It's really a fun aspect that doesn't have really anything to do with the actual items.
It's just how connected we are.
I realize this is a bit of a shameless plug, but yesterday, Pauly, one of our Discord members,
he released his What Do You Collect podcast, and I happen to be one of the folks on it,
where we do cover the disney project
and most of its history but you get to uh watch it with uh disney dan's a guest on it and so is
dude lifts if you haven't checked this out definitely go check it out it's a 45 minute
long uh podcast cover a lot of ground yeah no i'm gonna check it out for sure no i i started listening to it it's great it's um
uh amazing i mean it's uh i made the joke i'm like i feel like i'm listening to disney
with a collab with the sopranos but uh you know with that yeah paulie's got that voice man you love him and i feel like he's
gonna take my money yeah yeah it was great i was like oh i love this i'm like you know i'm from
new york so like i'm like i hear it all day you know but um yeah no i need to finish it though
but i mean you did great you did great on that so it's um so if no one else wants
to come up and talk trades i mean we could we could keep on jumping into new stuff you want
hey what's the next marketplace event that starts friday so it starts friday at noon
um and i'm looking forward to that oh wait we got uh we got an ad lamp
another legend so when you um even though the marketplace is down and this is what i meant We got Edlamp. Another legend.
So when you, even though the marketplace is down,
and this is what I meant to look at today.
Again, I'm still pretty new on it. I've got a nice collection because I kind of am known for going hard in the paint.
But do you have the ability, even when the marketplace is down,
through the app to still go through all the collections and see all the pins?
Like, what's the easiest way to do that, to go through and kind of like explore all the different
collections so i would say if you go on the app and you go to um what is it you go to like your
pins and then um hold on let me open it up and then you can click on there's pins and sets and
that's where you complete your your set where you get the confetti drop so you go to collection um and then you go to sets and it'll show you all the ones you have incomplete and
that's why that way you can kind of go through and see the ones that you don't have okay if you
want to do you think this would be an interesting question for uh for double that's what i'm going
to call them for double or or maybe someone from my discord,
like a fob came up or a pen food, just one of them, like question for you,
since you're a massive trader and you almost have a master collection,
what would you think if they,
if they tried to incentivize people to like lock up a, a set.
So like a rogue one set, you complete it and you actually lock it and now
those pins are completely off the market they can no longer be sold individually but it's an actual
set what would you think about that as so you're saying kind of moving forward like it gets locked
where you could either sell it as a set or trade it as you would have to sell it yeah you would
have to sell it or trade it as the set it would be you know that whatever whatever uh pin is in there you know like there's a lock-up period
for it or it's like yeah oh it's no it's locked that is a new digital uh collectible those pins
are removed from the individual sets you know if there was 110 of one pin there's now 109
and so the supply is completely taken down
and it's a new pin.
It's like a master pin.
Like that Stormtrooper set
where you complete all the pins
and it makes the Stormtrooper helmet.
Like once you complete that,
you have the ability to lock that into one piece.
And it's a giant pin, yeah.
It's a piece now.
That's interesting.
I think that'd be a really interesting talking
about gamifying and and messing with supply that'd be a really wild spin on things so something i've
heard or haven't heard being discussed yet is the possibility for etching on these pins i believe
somebody went rooting in the code and found that there might be a line or two about being able to
inscribe on the backs of these things so this might be something to see in the future.
I mean, I'm not going to comment on what might be in the code, but I would call out what's
really cool about Flow, especially Cadence Native Projects, is they can take advantage
of upgradable smart contracts, so they can always add new features down the line as well.
Without me talking about anything that you might have seen on there, I would say, as
I think Carson or Clint called out earlier, one of the best sleuths on the flow ecosystem is diamond
who is here listening and so i imagine if you wanted to ever poke around about on-chain stuff
he's your go-to guy his dashboard is like super useful as well in terms of seeing the activity
around like a weekend trading event well more so for the marketplace event i would say um but yeah
i'm not going to comment on it but i do think the potential for these things is very exciting.
Yeah, diamond down there.
We're just friends here.
Look, you can say anything you want, but you won't tell anybody, we promise.
Yeah, this is recorded, right?
All right, let's get into it.
Now, honestly, only because my output would be severe.
Like, I see minuscule amounts of it and only hear kind of like plans at some point.
So I don't even know what the latest is.
Otherwise, you know, I might be – get a few beers with beers with me lads i might be sharing all the secrets you never know
then moham money now we'll go down to the pub few guinness on me i mean i think what i would say
is always encouraging these ideas like i like the idea of what you're saying and the way we could
do it technically on flows as an attachment which is kind of like a tba token bound account where basically one nft
can have other nfts owned within it um so there would be like a technical way to implement what
you're talking about as well which would be really cool like from a concept i really like it
um i also think even the ability to put those sets onto a pin book and then trade an entire
pin book even that would be very cool even if you didn't have to like lock it in you know see that's interesting i never thought about that i always
thought um where you're going like in the future trading sets or um listing a set for sale
would be interesting because it would be like does it go for because there are two ways to
think about it it's like if you if you're selling a set is it a premium because you're getting a set and it's easier to get or is it do you get like sort
of a discount on it because it's like a bulk purchase but that would be interesting if you
kind of list a pin book like if someone really likes a pin book they like how it's put together
and like all this other stuff but like if you could do that or if you you know could buy or
trade sets as a whole yeah i think all of these
would be really exciting i think it's just in general the theme of like some sort of being able
to bulk trade and bulk even buy or sell would be really cool uh i guess as we're talking about like
things you guys would love to see are there any features that you're like this has to happen
like we maybe you're assuming it is i don't know but i'm just kind of curious where like especially
when it comes to onboarding new folks getting new folks to feel the magic quicker uh anything you'd love
to see that stands out i'm trying to think to get more people in um like for example i agree with
you i think you're talking about your brother where it's like as soon as he like rips the capsule and
gets a pretty cool pin like the gold x-wing like he's
hooked he's like oh my god this is exciting but like trying to get that experience right away i
think is a great way for getting everyone to feel the magic of pinnacle you know it would be
interesting if you could share the capsule openings like i don't know if this is possible
like if it's instead of having a screen grab it like on your phone or something if you could kind
of share that and be like,
cause there'll be times like I'll buy 10 at a time.
And like,
obviously I want to share the one where I get a DB,
but I have to record the entire thing.
And then it's like,
you know,
you kind of,
you go through the process and you're like,
click,
click,
click.
And sometimes you,
you know,
you skip it by accident.
So that'd be kind of cool if you,
you know,
almost input what you get,
get all that.
Cause that,
that'd be a cool way to kind of grab people and be like,
look what I'm doing.
Um, I, I really agree. Uh, I'll pass the feedback on.
That's all I can do, but I do like that idea for sure.
But, um, all right. Anybody, anybody else want to come?
We have an ad lab here. Yeah. Hey guys. Can you hear me? Yep.
A hundred percent. What's up, man? How are you?
Hey, good to talk to all you guys. I've never spoken to anybody, but I definitely know all the names here have been a part of this for quite a while. And I love it. I mean, it is definitely the new thing.
we're talking about a trade days and stuff in that topic.
And in my opinion, I really love the fact that it's, you know,
once a week or weekend and it makes it like an event.
I mean, if you go to top shot all day, I mean, I'm into all of that stuff,
but nothing has the feel of like, you're going to meet people.
You're going to trade pins with somebody you're going, you know,
just that aspect of it really captured me, you know, to meet people you're going to trade pins with somebody you're going you know just that aspect of it really captured me you know to be honest to everybody i was very very
skeptical at first that it was a app-based nft program or project you know on the phone and i
asked and checked around and finally took a shot and got the you know got a few pins and just decided, wow, I love this.
This is different.
You guys have mentioned it all night.
I mean, we relate to every single drop.
Each drop is better than the next.
You know the characters.
You know some people like Star Wars, some people like Disney, some people like Pixar.
You got all these things that just really, really want you to be a part of it.
And then, I mean, just a shout out to everyone on this chat
and in Pinnacles, like just a fantastic community.
Everybody's really awesome and helpful and cool.
I mean, it's such a positive vibe.
So I just wanted to, you know, give my two cents
and just think we're on the right track.
Everybody has great ideas. We're so, you know, I tell my wife a lot. It's like,
I'm still in the alpha stage of all these NFT projects and things. Crypto hasn't gone mainstream
yet. There's a lot of things that just haven't really defined themselves yet. So, you know,
we're in the frontier days of something big and we're all uh contributing to that and it's awesome to hear you
guys speak uh think a board board is that you that started this or carson i mean awesome that
we can come here you know share ideas this this is something that we're all a part of that we can
make it grow too that's what's awesome so that that's my two cents just you know i just kind of
wanted to say hi to everybody because i see so
many people that i recognize but you know never really reached out to but yeah a little nervous
for some of us like this so yeah no i really feel comfortable enough to come on and even talk about
it so good job guys awesome well thanks for coming up man that's not thank you that's great and that's
and that's what we want. You know what I mean?
We want more people to come up and speak and contribute.
Even in the comments, Silent Delta just wrote a comment, which is insane.
So they said, you know, the Pop Mart app for Lububu allows you to share your box opening with friends so they can watch in real time.
Imagine if you got 10 boxes, if you got 10 capsules and you
could live stream it on twitter or x you could live stream that and people could sit there and
watch you just rip 10 open i mean i think that would send this thing i mean that that would
really be cool yeah that'd be awesome and i'd say i'd watch dude i'd watch you open 10 capsules
i would i'd watch uh that guy open up 900.
Oh, my God.
The capsule out there is fantastic.
I mean, just...
I didn't know about LaBubu. I just bought
a LaBubu the other day. My wife and I
kept on saying LaBubu, and then we were calling our
daughter. I'm like, you're my LaBubu.
And then I was like, surprise, I got you a LaBubu.
But,
see, that's awesome.
See, there we go.
We're brainstorming here.
I got a question.
What do you do when you encounter a difficult trader?
Which one?
I block them.
The one that just spams you with like terrible deals they've been blocked
okay this this guy's got a pin or girl this person has a pin that you just can't live out
what are you going to do to try and and get yourself through this situation that's why i
like the marketplace i don't know sometimes sometimes you can't make a deal i mean it's
just you know some people they
have different values and different pins and that's what's great about it um I don't know
like I kind of look at the trading events now as I'm trying to like more help people
yeah um because like I have the pins I like and like I added multiples of the pins that
because like I'm a big believer in like you get two or three and then you try and sell one to get your money back.
And then like maybe you sell one for profit and if everything goes in the right direction, you know, like the rule of three.
But I don't know, like I look at these trading events as it's a great way to onboard people, like send a little welcome package, like do all this other stuff.
I mean, you've dealt with it. So what do
you do? It really depends on my relationship, I guess, with the person. Some people I'm just
going to turf right away. I mean, if they're disrespectful, I mean, you're not taking up
any more of my time, but I mean, if, if there's a, if there's wiggle room, then there's wiggle
room. I'm going to gonna explore it you're not always
gonna make a deal though you're right and i think the marketplace is the equalizer you're 100% there
i just i don't know i i prefer to barter uh if i can so i don't know i just i just a question i
guess well i think like everyone always loves a deal like there's some human nature where like
even if you're a millionaire and you can haggle for a $20 item down to $15,
you still feel like you've won.
And so I think whenever it's been difficult,
just chuck a random extra pin that way.
You'll be surprised by how many people are like,
well, now I'm getting a better deal, so now I'm fine with it.
But I do agree, obviously.
Don't be wasting too much time.
Don't be afraid just to wait and buy on the marketplace of course but i think generally people just want to feel like
they're getting a good trade and if you keep that in mind you can normally get past some of the
stubbornness i'd agree with that and a great example would be if you're hunting uh like say
you're going for a matching cereal set and somebody's got the cereal you're hunting uh
you give them the same pin you give them an extra gold pin they feel great because they made out yeah exactly exactly that's a great way of putting
it um or even if just like you can see what they're trying to collect and then you can always
go buy it in the marketplace event and then come back next time like look i've got the thing that
i know you want so like now you kind of have the ball in your corpse and that's a great point
because when you when you are trading with people and you're looking through their inventory
You need to start figuring out what they're collecting and how you can tailor
What you see to what you have and I really like doing that without putting money on the line. I think there's an art to it
Yeah, but and that's what's great about having both it's like some people they live
for the trading and the bartering and all that other people it's like you know in out you know
this this and that i want to build up my collection um but it's a fun it's a really fun aspect to it
because i i mean i remember like the beginning times people are like i want to trade nfts and
like you know open seed and have it and all these other like platforms and it was you know like they didn't have it where you could
trade like you know i would like if you could also like add money to it because i think that'd be
like kind of cool where you could say you know hey i'll trade you this set for this set and you know
i'll add you know a couple bucks here or there that would make trades easier it would definitely
make it easier um but it kind of like combines the two
yeah like i i i love both like listen i'm a fan i'm a fan of the marketplace i'd love to see
like more of a 24 7 thing like i i know there's arguments against it but um like i like me i'd
love for it to be a tuesday at you Everybody's at work or something, and then all of a sudden, there's a crazy sweep,
and everybody gets in the Discord and starts talking about it.
And you're like, oh, my God, didn't you see that?
What's going on?
That's what I kind of look for.
Make it an event.
Yeah.
It's fun.
My argument against a 24-hour marketplace is that i don't think my bank account can handle it anymore
like when the marketplace is over i just get a sigh of relief i go sit down in the corner of my
chair and i'm like god they close they close that thing off because it it does get like i don't want
to say addictive because that's a triggering word for people but it's like there's so many fun things
on there to find like you know like i like lady and the tramp it's like one there's so many fun things on there to find. Like, you know, like I like Lady and the Tramp.
It's like one of my favorite Disney movies of all time.
I'm probably in the minority there.
Like, I don't think that's like, you know, most people's favorite.
But I just, for whatever reason, I love Lady and the Tramp.
And it's like looking at those pins and being able to own those is just like really fun.
And then, you know, Darth Maul and all that.
It's like you can just keep going on these rabbit holes.
And I'm still seeing pins.
Someone had a pin on here earlier that was in the comments,
and I hadn't seen it before.
It was one of the Yodas.
It's Tony down there.
I hadn't seen that Yoda pin yet.
So, you know, there's so many out there that are really cool.
To add what you just said is that you said it is addictive,
and it 1,000% is addictive and it 1000 is addictive and i think i think that's what makes this project
different and special i mean i've been addicted to other nft projects but this one is just like
i mean the caps everything you just want to keep getting more and more i mean but that's not just
us it's everyone you bring someone in and show them that and they're in.
They lock in immediately. So, I mean, that's just this is going to grow. It's going to keep growing.
It's a fun project. We're going to be part of it. I can't stop. I can't.
It's a fun project. It's like without a doubt, it is it is a ton of fun.
And I'm so happy. Like I keep on having to tell myself, stop going for a master set.
No, like whenever somebody starts offering one of those low supply pins, I'm like, should I do it?
But then I could do this.
And then I start, and I'm like, stop it.
And then on the flip side, nobody wanted to get the squishy set.
And there's some certain sets that nobody wants.
And they're all saying, no, I'm going to save my money now.
And it turns out those are going for so much right now.
So, you know, it's never a good time.
It's just, it's awesome.
Yeah, it's a fun product.
That's like, at the core of it, it's a fun product.
The IP is unmatched.
It's just, you know, it's good.
And like, I mean, listen, it's been around for over two years now.
Like when I told Carson that, he was like, what?
That's when you first spoke about it?
I was like, yeah.
It's been,
it's been a while, but we have a, we have Tony up here.
I don't know if you want to. Hey guys. Yeah. Yeah. I jumped on the other one you guys did.
I thought I would,
one of the questions Luke asked kind of triggered me to jump up here and the
they'll call out for my Yoda. Thank you for that.
Dude, everybody loves Yoda and baby baby yoda so you know yeah that's i just empire it's the chaser pin from the empire
strikes back set that came out earlier but yeah so my my my kids we just i just let them watch
et for the first time and they're like this is the worst movie we've ever seen in our lives like this is so dumb anywho to get to the point on the halloween
area where everybody's going out and they're uh and they're going into trick-or-treating like you
see them pass by the guy in the yoda outfit the yoda costume and i'm like dude just imagine being
back in the 80s and watching this and then seeing the Yoda. What an awesome time to be alive.
For all you young'uns who run around the 80s, I'm sorry you missed it.
It was great.
Go ahead, Tony.
Sorry.
I was thinking back to how I got started in collecting these.
I was into doodles at the time and still am.
But that's kind of what got me into the first
like NFT realm. And, uh, then I started getting these emails from Disney pinnacle. I've kind of
grew up as a Disney fan. I'm not crazy, but like, you know, everybody knows it. And, uh, so he was
getting those like in November and December of 2023 that it was going to launch. And I just kind
of ignored him, you you know it goes into the
into the junk file but you know I kept getting them and then I was just looking back right now
and I wanted to talk about Flovana again in a second but you can literally trace back every
single purchase so my very first pin was March 22nd at 2 30. It was probably work or something. And I bought the up Russell pin came out. And then
I remember thinking, yeah, yeah. So that was my very first pin. And then I remember thinking,
I saw the eggs, they were in the store and I was like, who would want to buy the eggs?
But I bought one cap and I got a boo silver sparkle. Then I went for five more up capsules
until I got the chaser, the house with balloons.
And then I stopped for the day.
So I kind of like limped in and then didn't really go crazy for a while until I realized
like you could look at this Flovana thing, which is pretty dope.
Like I grew up collecting baseball cards and I used to wait like every month till the new
Beckett came out so that I could calculate the value of the cards and stuff but now they just sit in a closet somewhere and the kids don't
really dig it but um but yeah so these uh the pins um and so what Flovana does and I'm sure
because it's all on the blockchain is allows you to like be educated and look up the supply and
look up the past sales and it's really a powerful tool to give you like
some confidence that you're not getting ripped off or something you know so that's all i was
going to say about that but thank you guys i'm exactly like you too i started the exact same
time you did i said the exact same thing about the eggs i said maybe i'll get a couple gold eggs but
yeah i'm right with you,
man.
That's cool.
I was going to say,
I live here in the amount of shout outs for Flo Varner.
I know that I,
you know, I think Carson was talking about it as well.
Originally I've obviously used it myself.
Kind of curious.
I know I'm always just fishing for you guys.
Tell me do my job,
but no,
the Flo Varner dev,
he's always looking for,
you know,
more stuff to add and whatnot.
And so I'm curious,
what are things you'd love to see in Flo Varner,
especially for yourself, Tony, that like would help further with that kind of getting you educated let you know what's going on like are there any of the kind of things we could add
well we could ask the flow vanity to add in there i want to be able to download an excel sheet of
my pins from full on flovana like your own collection like like a snapshot kind of thing
yeah i want to be able to like and then i could kind of compile it and do my weird excel wizard stuff but um i would love that but
no flavana is awesome if people don't know um flovanna.io it's incredible it's great for
pinnacle you can go on there it tells you the average sale price of i think the past 10 sales
of certain pins it tells you kind of if you go to there, it tells you the average sale price of, I think, the past 10 sales of certain pins.
It tells you kind of, if you go to your collection, it'll kind of give you a total valuation of what it is based on the average sale price.
You can kind of look up other people's collections.
It's awesome.
So, Tony, thank you for coming up here.
You're a legend in the space.
You're awesome.
So, thank you for coming up there and sharing a legend you know in the space you're awesome so thank you for coming up
there and sharing that yeah agreed and i'm not as familiar with some of the pinnacle community so
i've been trying to drop a follow on everyone but i'll say this is that as you know the top
channel day communities that are awesome flow a bit more familiar with them um you can reach out
to me anytime you need right like i don't directly work on a pinnacle product but if you have an
issue if there's an account problem if you have, if you're just not sure what's going on,
you can always hit me up,
just whether it's DM here on Discord.
I'm always happy to put you in touch with people on the team.
Often my response might be like,
yeah, you need a support ticket,
but still at the very least,
I can direct you in the right way.
So just anyone who's not familiar,
do feel free to reach out
anything related to Flow or Dapper,
especially if you have any issues with your account.
Always happy to try and help there.
No, and thank you. And that's the other thing is like what i love about the project
is you know carson and i just started you know shooting the like let's let's run a spaces and
start talking like we we've done this for a few projects and um you know that we're interested in
that we you know believe in and um having the team from you have from pinnacle flow you know
dappers retweeting like all that that's huge it's just it's they don't none of you have to be you
know helping here you know it's not like where this is sanctioned or anything like that this is
just the community running with it and like that's another huge bullish indicator in my opinion so
thank you for that we really do appreciate it yeah, I'll say this like, you know, you mentioned earlier about how like a passionate I sound when I talk but I can tell you this
Every single team member I've ever met at Dapolabs and the Float Foundation have way more if not the same level of passion
I mean, it's so insane watching a pinnacle team at like an on-site chat in depth about the nuances of a certain pin design
And like they're just going at it like two or three peoplesite chat in depth about the nuances of a certain pin design and like they're
just going at it like two or three people can chat for hours about it and it's so exciting and cool
that they're able to have that level of kind of passion get met by people like yourselves that
are also excited by it they also want to be like hey let's get together on a sunday and chat about
it um obviously because it's you know working with disney it's hard for them to maybe speak
too openly but can definitely try and get some team members on future spaces for you guys or other people at DAPA to kind of share more,
kind of not staying behind the scenes,
but at least talk a little bit about
what it's like to work on the platform
and stuff like that.
So, Clayton, we can stay in touch.
We can figure something out down the line
because I think that you guys would love hearing
from more of the people,
even like the engineers that write the smart contracts.
When you realize how passionate they are about Disney
and it's like they're just writing a code
and even they get excited talking about it.
I think it's a real special energy to have.
No, thank you for that.
I mean, listen, we'd love to get as many people as we can.
So we'll talk in the DMs and we'll go over that.
But thank you again.
That's awesome.
That's great.
Imagine being Luke's co-workers tomorrow
when he comes in with just these crazy ideas.
They're going to be like, dude, Luke was on a heater this weekend.
He's been working.
So we'll see Luke in all the other spaces.
So he's just going to be going in with a spreadsheet of all of his phenomenal ideas he's come up with on the weekends.
Yeah, no, I'm just going to make it like a little slack post.
But hey, guys, just popping in.
I spent a weekend thinking about this and just hope none of them catches faces.
They'll be like, wow, this is such good.
Luke, are you a sudden power user overnight?
I mean, that's pretty much what my job is.
I listen to what the community want.
I type it out and then I just send it to team members
and tell them I spent days working on it.
So that's the secret sauce.
So keep that in mind, send your ideas
and I'll send it to the right folks.
Because I think no one knows what's better for this product
than the people that are using it every day like yourselves.
And I just also want to say, it's so cool to hear your passion and excitement.
All the people that are coming up, like AdLab, Tony, Double Daddy,
got to use the full name every time.
I really enjoy hearing your passion as well.
It's just great to be here.
I have to jump in and say Luke's not even waiting until Monday.
He's already got the Slack thread.
He's already been passing on all of your suggestions
and your feedback and your enthusiasm for those team members who weren't able to make it tonight.
Although, you know, some of us are here listening. So I just want to shout out.
It's good to see you, Alan. Thanks. I mean, Alan, you'll find this funny. I've literally
sent a Sunday night DM to the FlowVanner team like, guys, we need this new feature. They're
going to be like, what? Like, on a Sunday night? Where's this come from? So yeah, it's funny I've literally sent a Sunday night DM to the flow banner team like guys we need this new feature they're gonna be like what like on a
Sunday night where's this come from so yeah it's not just a vehicle team
she have everyone I think needs to hear this stuff because you guys are dropping
some absolute gems so I appreciate it and welcome Alan the absolute legends I
think a master set holder thank you for coming up here. Yeah, as long as you exclude the Genesis and the currently available, you know, potential to drop in the Starfront pins, I've got that master set going.
It's a constant thing to hold on to.
Mate, you need the Genesis. Why have you not got the Genesis yet, Alan? What are you playing at? Get a Genesis one.
I'm not going to lie, the Star Wars had me looking around for some liquidity when that price
kept dropping. That was, that's a really nice pin. I mean Incredibles as well, I love the
song and I love that pin. But that Star Wars had me reaching for the wallet. I'm lucky
or unlucky that it sold as quick as it did.
I'm happy I was out.
It was like one of the...
I was out with my wife and I wasn't paying attention
and it started dropping.
We're going to be pretty sad that we were loaded.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny.
I keep on thinking like out of those three
Genesis pins
like I mean
like the mall I mean
Duel of Fates like iconic
I would be so fascinated
to see
the Lion King one the Rafiki
Simba like what that would
sell for because I
just feel like that reveal too yeah like i
see that's that's it seems like to me um like with this being so early i feel like a lot and
someone made this point this isn't me i read it somewhere in the discord and i forgot who said it
so sorry or maybe it was in one of the actually it's in one of the people i just onboarded uh who were
i'm helping through it um he's a big star wars guy and he's buying the star wars and i'm like yeah he
and he he asked he's like why the star wars pins kind of lagging some of the others in value and
i'm like there's a little bit of fatigue but he made the point he's like a lot of people that
got in early are probably more disney fans not really like the star Wars. And he's like,
I think if more of the NFT people come in,
they're probably going to be weighted more towards star Wars. Like,
like he is like I am. And I was like, that's an interesting point.
So it's like kind of fun, like, you know, hearing that from other people,
but yeah, like, I mean, that's, again, you got more, I mean,
it's just like one of my favorite characters, like Carson.
But I would love to see.
Did someone mention the magic reveals?
Are there any Star Wars ones that have magic reveals?
Rebels.
Is there a Star Wars magic reveal?
Yeah, yeah, the Rebels is a magic reveal.
The Valentine's Day, and I think that's it, maybe?
Dude, what about Vader like
the scene where in Rogue One
at the end when Vader's coming through
with that lightsaber and he's just
murking people throwing them against the
wall imagine you get a Vader
and you get to spin that magic reveal
and just see that bad mother
you know what just coming through like
I'm getting excited thinking about it and it's not
real I just like imagine that's a really cool way they're done yeah You know what? Just coming through. I'm getting excited thinking about it. And it's not real.
I just like.
Magic reveals are a really cool way they're done.
Yeah.
Magic reveals are awesome.
I would buy that pen for sure.
You showed me.
You're like.
Do you know?
You took a screen grab.
If you tap on the back of a pen.
It pops up like the date.
I think.
The year was minted.
Or something like that.
Like that was awesome.
There's a lot of little things.
Like the magic reveal. I was just in our discord like our side chat and um i'm like hey isn't there something
you can do and everybody's like what are you talking about i'm like isn't there like a if
there's a star you know it's kind of like i remember you had told me about it but then i
then i went kind of on a hunt for all the ones i had that had the magic reveal and i'm like watching
all the clips and the Lion King.
And it's just a really cool thing that they did on some of the pins.
And I don't think any of the Star Wars alphabets have a magic reveal, right?
Not that we've seen on the art of it.
That's right.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Imagine you get the Death Star and it's just, that's no moon.
You know, that'd be that'd be
really cool yeah no the magic reveal is awesome it's and i like that it's not overdone also it's
like very special if one of the pins has it it's um it's great it's great
i think every pin set that's been released that is entirely magic reveal has almost instantly become an iconic set.
Yeah.
Peter Pan, Lion King.
The Lion King is awesome.
I think, what else we got?
WALL-E, I think is all that.
No, three out of five were Magic Reveal there.
But yeah, Peter Pan was fully Magic.
And I mean, good luck getting that set right now.
Yeah, I think there's a premium to these Magic Reveals, 100%.
Yeah, and honestly, you might see it.
If you could sort by Magic Reveal, I think you'd see it tick up in price.
Just because people could easily find it.
Yeah, no.
I mean, does anybody else want to come up here and talk about some trades?
Alan, you probably get spammed by so many people for trades.
I remember back in the day.
I've got a number of other trades.
I've got a number of trades.
I understand.
I remember back in the day, I was like, oh, I need to complete.
I was like, these silver sparkle princesses.
And I'm like, you had like 10.
I'm like, oh, I'm hitting them for them.
So thank you.
You helped me complete some sets before the marketplace was around.
Hey, I know I invited Yost to come up.
If anybody else wants to come up, I gonna pull uh adlad studios i'm gonna pull you down uh just so we can have the the uh the stage for someone
else to come up i'd love for yo steph if she's available uh thanks for coming up by the way man
appreciate it great input um anybody that's into like traditional uh pins i think it'd be fun like to come up and just
kind of explain maybe some of the background on that um it was it was really cool when when she
came up a couple weeks ago just to explain to some people like what is kind of like the history
behind the pins uh and why disney pinnacle decided to go this way with with the uh the pin trading uh
i think it's kind of like that's interesting and if anybody else has got anything they want to say obviously please come up and just say hello and maybe tell us what
you're what you're buying what you're looking at what you like uh maybe what got you into it
no pressure at all
pressure at all i've had a great day of trades today i gotta share that with everybody um
landed that sadness got the new chaser from uh well new to me the rise of the dyad chaser
it's been a great day for trades uh i i hear what you're saying this is a great idea to onboard
people with the trade event but it is a way to literally finish, finish all your goodies
without having to invest money that you don't need to invest. And that's a respect move from
the team. I got to love it. And I'm sure that it takes some effort to supervise us on some level,
right? So this can't be free for them and they're investing in us. And I think that that is,
you don't see that all the time.
It's funny also, everybody have onboarded.
It's been a trade event where you hook them up with some pins, you get them this, you start trying to, you know, everyone's so generous.
If someone kind of, you know, joins in, they say, hey, you know, this person, like people send them some pins to get them started.
So that's like their introduction and then the marketplace event
they get to actually see everything and start seeing a lot more stuff and that's when you start
seeing like oh there's this and then they start going on their own path like of course and you're
like the general grievous like you bought like four of them you're like this is awesome oh they're
awesome oh they're so cool and it's you know the they've done a good job with you know the art obviously i don't
keep saying it but um maybe if there was an area that explained like maybe the tears like that
breakdown you did a couple days ago that was really good that kind of did the breakdown on
you know uh le for limited edition and and uh digital display like just how that all works
um that would be somewhat cool you know cool to add how to do the magic reveals uh how the colors
flash works and i just reminded that holy down there has the um the colors flash and like you
know if you're just looking through the collection everything kind of starts to look like just pins
but when you start to see the different nuances and like if you could sort by colors flash and
my dds and magic reveals it'd be really cool to um so you can sort in your it'd be easier to
see like what you're trying to look in your collection you could sort and like there's
there's certain ways you could sort it out yeah but like if i i get what you're saying if there's
something to kind of like almost like um oh what are those books called it's like something for
dummies like collecting you know pinnacle for dummies almost like cliff yeah like pinnacle for dummies or cliff's notes uh just like a little tutorial
maybe they just like explained you know the different tiers uh the different collectability
how to do magic reveals what they look like um because i didn't really see anywhere that showed
like what a magic reveal was i just had to kind of grind through discord and ask a bunch of questions
um but yeah it's kind of a little hidden thing.
And then I was just literally messing with the pen and realized you could push on the back of the pen.
And then it pops up with that little rectangle information block, which is, you know, again, just another cool little feature of the digital art.
Honestly, something I'd love is in the pen book, if it is a magic reveal, if you could kind of do something that in the pin book opens up video, that would be cool.
But that's just, that's just.
Yeah, what if you can inscribe your name on it
and there's a lot, there's a, there's a ledger
that shows who all owned it.
That would be great.
Mate, mad notes.
I'm gonna look like a genius.
Luke will get on a call
i think this stuff is uh is really cool ideas right and i love hearing the energy around it
i guess what i always think is cool is the way that like different collective patterns form so
naturally so for example the magic reveal potentially would be like priced higher in
the market but like it might not be or it might be by this group but
then by this time next year it's changed entirely and i think it's always fun to kind of see the
way that changes over time when you have something like this and it goes back to what we were saying
before where like some of the sets that weren't in demand now have like a really low mint count
especially to the growing user base so now maybe they become in demand because of that which feels
like a very like it's just a fun kind of game theory shift that happens naturally great example of that is the uh the the valentine's
day set rewards that are about to unlock next weekend uh we're seeing a lot of uh chatter about
pre-trades and pre uh sales even what prices might uh be demanding and you're absolutely right the game theory here is
just crazy yeah and it's kind of nice in a way because like you talked about yourselves having
the trade events and the marketplace events be like a weekend thing you wait for people just
spend the whole time chatting about it getting excited kind of doing these like i don't know
discord deals around it and then when push comes to shove you've got no idea where the price is going to end up because it's way more organic
kind of just like pin trade in real life where like you might be in one park doing a certain trade
where someone is doing a completely different trade with the same like getting more or less
value with the same pins you know i think it's fun that they managed to capture that energy still
even online absolutely right and i And I'm going to share
with you all my worst trade ever. You're going to love this. At the time, it was a great trade
at the time. So at the D23 last year, when we didn't know anything about if we were going to
get pins, you could only get them if you were there so everybody who wasn't
there was freaking out we couldn't get them we couldn't get them i uh i found a connection where
i thought i you know was doing very very good and i ended up trading a groku for my soul 22 digital
display that's uh interesting but i say that at the time it was a good deal
yeah market shift mate hey look if you were happy at the time it's still a good deal now
exactly i wouldn't i wouldn't tell people about that deal personally wow it aged like milk
yeah yeah that's kind of brutal looking back at it now
luke said i wouldn't tell anybody about that like you just want to cry at night
and uh just keep that to yourself well you know what this is a trading space
and in in the spirit of it let's dude i love it yeah the good the bad and the ugly i mean that's
that's part of it so just to reiterate anyone trying to get some really good trade offers,
go make offers to the double daddy.
Seems like he'll accept anything.
So hopefully you get some come in now.
Well, get some good, you get some bad, you never know.
On our very first trade event, when most of us stayed up for most of the entire event,
I remember just blasting in the chat, hey, I need this pin, I need this pin,
and someone just sent it to me.
And it was Pluto, you're the dragon. And it wasn't as worth you know didn't have the value it does today
but it still had great value back then and it was lovely to just be able to reach out into the dark
and say i need help and just to find it just like that it was it's it's a powerful project
the most slept on set in the collection is year of the dragon in my opinion i love it
you heard it here no i think that's pretty fair i think stuff like that is always cool because
i don't know it just looks so unique and fun um i love i love hearing the kind of the battle
stories from the trading but it's such a sign of the success of the platform that now it's like
oh that that was a crazy deal but at the time it didn't feel like a big issue if you got like a
slightly off trade but even just the last few weeks with the way the marketplace been
heating up it's like i think people are being way more considerate and thoughtful about the deals
now which i think is overall a good thing for the platform right if people are checking flow vanna
and making sure they're not getting bad deals like i don't think that's a net win for people overall
it's just funny how quickly it shifts i agree agree. Okay, we're going to do something fun here and unplanned.
So I just, in real time, this is happening live,
just got an unsolicited trade request,
and I'm going to just tell you what it is here.
Someone just sent me a trade request.
We're going to open the Pinnacle app here and look at it.
It is from, who knows, offer received, view offer,
and here is the proposed trade.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Drum roll, please.
Okay, they want my Darth Maul.
Okay.
Number 128.
Okay.
So, Darth Maulul and they're offering
Stully
from Monsters, Inc.
They're offering
Randall, Randall, Randall,
Randall,
Wazowski, another
Mike, another Mike, another Mike,
Boo,
three Boos, a WALL-E,
and a sketchbook.
I'm going to have to say no to this.
What variant were those?
I will tell you one second.
It just...
This is a great example because I have something I'd like to discuss about it once you're ready
it just says yeah this is a standard variant okay so they're all LEs yeah those are limited
yep yeah they're all LEs okay so this this was a pretty average trade attempt from somebody who's
got a lot of lower and stuff who's trying to consolidate,
right? That's how we're going to address this. Yeah. Okay. So this is a great example because
I believe that if you're going to make an offer like that, if you're going to go for that one
big pin and all you have is a bunch of little stuff, if you're going to add up that offer and say, just to keep it all round, let's say malls
400. And let's say the pins he's added up to equal 400. That one big fish and those 10 little fish,
they might weigh the same, but all those little fish, they all have more sets of eyes, more guts,
more fins. You're not going to get as much meat off that bone than you would off that big fish so you need to send more value in those
little fish in exchange to get that big fish so you might need to over trade but to the tune of
10 or 20 or maybe even 30 percent to get that in demand rare valuable pin but sometimes that's what it's going to take because again all fish aren't
created equal that that's kind of like our we made a trade last event um the the stormtrooper dd
i sent you and you sent me i think two two um le sets great example yep yeah so it's like you know
i kind of to me i i had it listed because i had a few of them and I was like, all right, well, I was looking for this value.
You sent me something that I was like pretty confident I can get that value for.
And I was like, all right, yeah, let's do it.
But like I didn't have any intention on keeping those pins.
I listed them on the marketplace.
100%.
Yeah. So like, yeah, I mean, mean listen it's depends who sometimes you get lucky
and somebody will take it they'll add it up and they'll say yeah so i don't think that's a bad
first attempt though it depends if that's followed up with yeah it's interesting it's interesting
because in the traditional nft market uh and we're well aware of this you're really rare stuff
sometimes it's harder to get rid of.
So sometimes you would take a trade like that that's equal with a bunch of lower stuff because
those are easier to sell off kind of along the way. There's more people that are willing to buy
those NFTs for a thousand here or there instead of maybe 60,000 for something. You just have a
lot more people with that liquidity. So it is an interesting spin on how trading and all that
works. Agreed 100%. You can sell. Not everybody wants to buy the big fish.
But Darth Maul is not leaving my wallet. So you're going to have to send some serious... I mean,
I'm actively trying to add more Darth Maul. It's just such a cool pin. I think it's going to be a year, two, three from now when this is mainstream.
And you have a ton of people that are trading.
And when you go to Disney and you get your ticket, it automatically makes an account for you.
Because they're going to drop you a welcome pin for your first time in the park.
And you're going to get an epcot pin and you're gonna get a hollywood studios pin when you go into the star wars world you're
gonna get this pin dropped in your wallet because it's all geocached and geolocated when they
finally decide to onboard that and they decide to take this thing to the next the next level um
that darth mall pins is is gonna be is gonna be sitting in my wallet nice and happy.
I just saw a shout-out.
Lexus down there posted the – there's a Star Wars alphabet wall poster,
which is like the same art.
That's really cool.
So that comes from – so this comes from something from the mainstream.
Oh, that's awesome. cool so that comes from from so this comes from something from the the mainstream
oh that's awesome i just went back i would just went through the the comments i didn't realize that that's a bit of law uh the backstory is very cool yeah trends international i know them too
well um no that's that's that's awesome it's literally it's oh it's all the same ones
No, that's, that's, that's awesome. It's literally, it's all, it's all the same months.
They're so cute. I can't wait to collect them all.
I was going to say, I was going to say something about that trade that Carson got. And I mean,
this is kind of a plug to get onto discord and chat with people because, you know, you don't know
what you could put out there on the trading request that you're looking for a Darth mall.
And there could be somebody that wants those pins too,
but you have to get out there and actually communicate with the people.
And it,
it helps you to accomplish trades.
So this is a recommendation to get on the,
I think it got posted in the chat,
but the,
the Disney pinnacle discord is like an awesome place to make deals.
If you're not using the discord and Flo Vano, what are you
even doing?
You're trying to feed
this six-month-old. That's what I'm
doing. No, you're being that Satoshi guy
and just dropping 20 grand on the
marketplace, getting us all
hyped.
If anyone is listening and is having
issues accessing the Disney Pinnacle Discord, just hit me up.
Myself or Alan, we're happy to help you out.
Carson, what are you doing with your six-month-old up right now?
Oh, no, I'm just saying in general.
general no my six month old is sleeping i was about to say charlie's been sleeping for four
My six-month-old is sleeping.
I was about to say, Charlie's been sleeping for four hours at this point.
hours at this point dude this kid's been sleeping since uh week one and a half he's been sleeping
all night and he just turned six months old today and i'm telling you this kid has just been a
superstar um so yeah i i'm trying to tell the wife like oh these pins are just for the kids
so i'm just getting a collection don't don't worry um so that's where we are currently um
we've been on clint i don't know if you've got a hard out i know we went uh about twice as long
tonight as we've gone normally it's been a phenomenal conversation it's been great having
you know all the folks from from flow up here uh luke added a
ton of great stuff to the conversation and so did double um you want to close it out and maybe in
this at uh at 45 and um i don't know if we've got another one scheduled i know this one actually
wasn't scheduled but we were just getting harassed non-stop in discord saying that people want it
you got to give them what they want so so we just
made the time work and it really is fun it's it's nice you know having these conversations and and
you learn a lot and all that um so a lot of great input from everybody and we appreciate it uh clint
you have any any final words i mean not really i mean listen this is awesome it's great speaking
to everybody that you know we've been talking in the discord so it's great to hear from everyone um i know it's a big deal coming up here
and talking it's not everybody likes to do it everybody gets nervous so it's just uh let's try
and get more participation because i'd love to hear from everyone everybody has a unique perspective
and um you know it'd be great to hear
what people are going after what they're trying to complete what they're buying what they're
trading for you know that that's what makes the spaces you know us be able to you know go longer
for an hour and talk about this and to keep it entertaining so um you know definitely uh appreciate
everybody coming out here and um we're gonna we're gonna keep on doing
this and i'm excited to see where the project's going i love that the team's coming you know team
comes on and joins us and it's it's fun it makes me want to go open up some more capsules so that's
dangerous uh-oh but we're about to see a run on the capsules all right well i'll go ahead and end
this thing uh it was great having everybody again um and we'll see you next time we'll share the links we'll be on here probably if i had to guess
we'll probably do it next week during the uh the marketplace event so everybody have a good week
and uh luke good luck with your uh with your notepad and uh we'll see what you what you get
done this week y'all have a good night good night everybody thank you for coming thank you
