GMGM Stevie we get the right NFT fight today Yeah, um you are you are so lucky today you are you have me here Scheduled to talk about NFT. Let's do this. Let's go Let's go
I'm excited to learn GM GM GM how we doing? Doing great doing great I'm very happy to hear you guys a puncture this time. No, no, I'm this is this has been a long time coming so I'm pumped
Yeah, we're gonna have a Jose join in a second. Just give a couple minutes maybe but yeah, if it's not there like in one or two we can just give region to reduction so yeah, let's give a second. Nice and see corporate.
She's ready. She's ready. Look at that. We're all learning about NFT by today. This is so exciting. All right, let me let me reach tweet the space.
I'm going to drop it in the chat and discord so you can come. I'm excited because because Don Fathers, you know, NFT flat, NFT 5 proposal got approved.
So this means, you know, we'll have more and more moonbirds, you know, more educated about the space and hopefully a little bit more intrigued and wanting to learn more. So I'm hoping that this is a really cool opportunity for everybody.
Yeah, no, it's exciting. All right, um, give me one second. I'm gonna try to switch my wifi real quick. I Should have done this before the call.
JP Max, how's it going, dude? GM GM excited to be here JP Max, you made it, bro. You're at your education and everything you're coming in. I'm I'm walking on the streets over
Argentina, but I'm gonna try to be on the call. Amazing. So can I ask have you been into NFT5 even before Dalton Red Pill Dio? I think Dalton was the main guy that Red Pill me.
After everything he wrote for proofs in the NFTIFI report, I was in and I started playing with NFTI perps, Tujiko and I'm excited to be here to see what's next for NFTI perps.
Yeah, that's super exciting. I think it was a little like kind of overwhelming for me, but I'm, you know, NFTs was over overwhelming when I first got into it. And so I want to challenge myself to always just learn more and more about what's going on.
Dalton loves to stay on the fringe. He loves to stay on the cutting edge of what's going on and and I trust you, dude. So let's go. Let's talk about mafia nuts. Let's do it. Let's do it.
is Jose here yet? Yeah, he said that. I think he should be there. Yeah, it's just like one second. I think he'll be both logged on to the same account. Like I have to prep account, but he's joining us. Oh, there we go.
Jose, how we doing? Oh, connecting, connecting. Yo, yo, GM Jose, nice to have you here.
This is exciting. Well, I guess I can get it started. I am more daddy capital. I'm an NFT analyst with proof. I like Stevie said a little bit earlier, I get to explore some of these fringe niche ecosystems about six months
I wrote a lending deep dive that is on our proof platform. I can post everything later, but went down the lending ecosystem and from there I kind of went into NFTFI to really find some really unique, interesting
projects that are building across multiple verticals within the NFT5 space. So then I put out another report about four months ago that was trying to cover the entirety of the NFT5 ecosystem, whether that be through lending aggregators, deep liquidity, fractures,
And then also NFT derivatives, which is what NFT perp would fall under. And then I've grown to have a good relationship with all these guys across the platform, across the ecosystem. So it's pretty exciting that you guys reached out to do some sort of collab and get some moonbirds, some exposure, and especially
the continual, I guess I would be like a sub community proof BAYC sub community that we have going over there for all the Latinos that are interested in NFC for as well. So thank you guys for coming. Yeah, thanks for having us excited to try to
and I have a couple of different mutual friends so it's always good to chat again and we're excited to share
uh what an interpreter is enough what we've been up to and what's going to happen with the upcoming Mint and with me there's our team members all on and by uh both on the chat as well we'll be in the diving to some more details so yeah thanks for having us
Yeah, of course. JP Max is also here. JP Max is the founder of Continuo. Like I said, that's like a Latin American based sub community of collectors across the space. There is a very deep NFT-fi vein that runs throughout that community.
So JP it's also nice to have you here GM GM. Thank you for thank you for the invitation Wardaddy always happy to learn about NFP 5 you know it. So happy to be here Cool, let's do it. So if you guys want to give a brief overview
So, I think that's really started off as an inside joke within a deeper community.
the deeds nuts joke and it kind of lived on and we thought being an NFT finance, even where DeFi protocol, but being the NFT space we thought it be. A really good thing to do to have our traders represent it with
of PFPs in our own projects. So NFTPurp, the Mocking nuts is really a token appreciation to all the traders that have helped us to carve a beta. And we think this will play a pretty big part into NFTPurp's future developments.
in terms of the protocol's utility and this is sort of our take on what we think is fun and P.F.P.s. It's a little bit different compared to other entity P.F.P. projects out there and yeah it's sort of our
way to recognize ownership of being a trader. The achievements that each trader has done into the protocol and adding that social layer of DeFi in our ecosystem and it's our way to build our culture.
So you guys kicked off was it public or private beta in November of last year correct? Yeah, probably beta and we still are in probably it's been private quite some time.
and we are excited to release this to the public in a few months along with the launch of our V2. So a lot of things happening. Pretty exciting. Because at this point, like prior to NFT perp, we didn't really see
any real opportunities to long and short they had found product market fit. And I think you guys were pretty much the first platform to really take that and run with it. Just to give some folks some information here, you guys have had almost 2,500 traders on the platform and you've done almost $400 million of volume since November.
That's pretty significant, right? This is kind of a changing of the guard. It's allowing speculators to be able to speculate with leveraged exposure. It's allowing holders to also hedge their positions if they feel like they may be overexposed or not. It just gives people the opportunity to really
kind of take on positions that they feel they want to have. And I think that's a really cool opportunity for people both as holders and speculators. Yeah, for sure. I think it's our design thinking of NFT that the very nature of
flexibility of NFTs makes it difficult for a lot of people to get involved. Maybe that's because if gas prices are being too high on E-Hair 1, so if the prices of NFTs doesn't go through a certain range of prices, it doesn't make sense to trade them. Maybe it's NFTs that are too expensive for some
of books that want to get price action on it. We just kind of think that having NFT parrots you not only allow people to go short, which is a very important aspect of any markets in crypto, in stocks, come out of these. And allow people to go
getting the price action with this little as 0.01, but apes or 0.1 is a key and you know all these different entities that are more expensive. It really opens up the gates for the floodgates for most of it involved and as it as easy as possible. So
continue without vision, I think over the last year, year and a half of building and energy finance, we talked to so many different teams, founders and builders and also like NFT, market makers and different protocols, sort of opening our eyes in terms
of how NMT Park could fit into the liquidity flywheel of the entire NMT finance ecosystem. So we're really excited as we build and talk to more people. We really found not only valid it in our vision, but also gave us confidence that this space could really scale. And we're just
kind of like you talked about there. I think one of the interesting, I get to talk with Ben all the time as well. We do like a little NFT file overview on a weekly cadence, which is it's cool to have just like a consistent look into what that ecosystem is doing. One thing I've noticed is that
Between all of these verticals, whether it be liquidity, some of these appraisal models, the evaluation mechanisms that people have, these aggregators, whether it be through lending like spice finance, ministry, there's so many different teams that are collaborating in different ways.
So, I think that that is something like how does NFT derivatives and NFT purpose specifically look at kind of collaborating with projects across the ecosystem and how do you kind of see these relationships maturing and is that something that we're going to see on the platform or how do you guys view that?
good question. And then there's a lot of ways to go about it. But some quick examples. We're very in close collaboration with protocols that have been here for a couple of times. So NETX being one of them in FODAL being another. Like this is where our way of
like indexing price markets for NFTs using available liquidity on NFE AMNs. So I'm pretty good relationship with like protocols like Kaviar as well. And then with regards to like lending and borrowing protocols like where don't want to tease too much, but we're currently building out another suite of products that
We'll integrate with letting a boring protocol and the form of allowing users to use, you know, besides just their rap ether as collateral that can use like an entities as well. And we have pretty good relationship with options protocols like this wasabi, like like
like Jake from hook and I talked pretty often about, you know, really testing out different ideas of down to meter strategies between options and parts and creating products around them. And there's also Astaria. That's like pretty close with the team as well. We discussed like different ways to, you know,
price out options for useful be three the quantities and create perps for them. So you know like the possibility is really endless. It's really about testing out different angles releasing them reiterating them and see things gain traction. I think we're literally in the forefront of in the frontier of like
creating magic in a net money using NFTs, different protocols combining different ideas together. It's extremely exciting. There's a lot of do and we're kind of grateful to have the network of friends and builders that are focusing on similar areas. Yeah, I think the ecosystem is
fascinating. There's so many different ways that people are building so many different directions, verticals, projects that are trying to cover this space. Like you said, we're kind of on the precipice here of the flywheel of magic internet money diversifying across the ecosystem. And I think that that is going to be
The eventual secret sauce that that kind of shows people how crazy NFT finance can get and like you said, we're not quite there yet, but that's why this is so exciting, right? We, we, whether it be holders of mafia nuts or people that are interested in the ecosystem, like this is
the time to use some of these beta platforms and use some of these early projects and really you have the opportunity to give your feedback and to share your voice which I think is really cool. Yeah and I think like a big part of the energy part is we try to release things. I should
been quick and to try to listen to users as much as we can and reiterate along the way. And yeah, I'll let All on from my team to kind of speak on a little bit more regards to Mafia nuts, like what to expect and whatnot. So All on wanted to give us a quick overview of Mafia nuts. For sure.
So just to get a little high level overview of what to expect. So, MafiaNet is a collection of 1,500 gangster nuts. Essentially, the art is inspired by, you know, by business. And essentially, we're going to have each kind of tea
our PFC is going to be a nut. Each nut is going to be from a different kind of, you know, gangster family. Each family has its own culture, you know, they come from a different country, but they're also their own, you know, their own type of nut. So that's kind of fun and kind of inspires some of the, some of the
later experimentation that we'll be doing in our protocol, kind of in the sense of gamification. So we can kind of get into that a little later or tease about that. But that's kind of from the art side of things. Obviously, you know, our ethos is kind of, it kind of lies in between
what you would get in NFC space as well as in the D5 space. So we do also want to provide holders of some sort of utility. So you may ask yourself how can we, how are we going to provide a utility for holders of the NFTs. And there are a couple of different things, some of which we can speak about, some of which we are going
to come a bit later, but the most important ones are private beta access and feed discounts are not superb. So just to dive a bit deeper into those, in terms of private beta access, again, we have been in close beta since late November of last year, the way to get
access is usually through our form and our discord and we do want to have experienced traders on our platform. There's a reason we're still in this stage, we think we can create a better product and something that's more sustainable for the masses.
And then shit happens sometimes, right? So we do want to kind of keep it at a low supply of people that have had tons of experience trading NFTs and maybe also in the DeFi states before. So it may not be that easy to get access. I think we're at a stage where we're very complex.
with what we built and we've seen it in tons of different market conditions. So we're kind of, I think we're happy with giving people kind of this sort of paid access to the data and use it as a tool in their kit. So, you know, whether, whether it be through getting a not through some mint or buying
it on the secondary market, people will be able to access their private beta through holding a mafia man. So that's the first thing private beta access. The second thing is for fee discounts. So kind of leaning a bit more to our products and what we're building. One of the big advantages
of trading on an NFT perp is that unlike spot markets where you pay Ethereum, Manak gas fees, you pay royalties and platform fees, whatever they may be, on an NFT perp for, you know, first in arbitrum, but secondly, because we are, you know, it's a derivative product, we can also afford to charge
much lower fees. So opening and closing a trade only comes with a 0.3% key on all your trades. So that may be very cheap but also a big component of our product is that you can get in and out out of positions incredibly quickly. So I think, you know,
Given that a lot of people trade or put on tons of tons of trades so we have people who have their own You know these are SDK and build trading bots. We have people that are constantly looking at the markets and You know putting on tons of trades every single day and yeah fees accumulate even with a 0.3%
some tea they accumulate and even a small discount can make a ton of difference in terms of what you're actually paying out. So yeah, we're going to be kind of announcing what that will entail in the coming week ahead of our mint, which is going to be in three phases.
So, this is beginning June 8th. Essentially, Phase 1 is going to be for our top traders and basically people that have really contributed towards the success of the platform and people that have traded in our, or have won our trading competition as well. That's Phase 1. Phase 2 is for everyone else that has
a white list of the dress, included in those are partner communities such as the proof community. And finally, there's Phase 3, which is a public mint in case they don't, in case the nuts don't get minted out in Phase 1 and Phase 2. So that's kind of the general idea behind Mafiumeat.
I hope you guys have a better, you know, have a total higher level overview of what we've been doing. But yeah, I think from here we can kind of chat a little more about, I guess, some further utilities or NFT perper, whatever questions you may have since I know, you know,
You've been dying to do the states for quite some time now, so shoot ahead. Yeah, so I think one of the I have a couple questions, but I have a question. Which yes, there we go. I was about to bring you in, Stevie. You cut me off. Yeah, me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, which nuts are the rarest ones I want to know I want to make sure that I Have yeah, so just to give each them some more background there are five families there are the acorns the almonds the walnuts the cashews and the
in terms of which family is the rarest, it's actually, you know, it's, I guess it's going to be up to the community to decide on that. Personally, I mean, in the last few days, we've actually teased some PFPs from each family. And, you know, a little bit of an alpha week will continue doing that for a bit now.
I mean leading up to the mint. My opinion, I really like the acorns, but I actually have, you know, slowly over time of, you know, I've been quite interested in the peanuts as well. So just keep an eye out, but in terms of actual, you know, non-floor trades and so on, we will
We will have a bunch of traits that we think are going to be non-for. I guess, yeah, I don't know how I can best tease this, but just keep an eye out. I think if you drop us a follow, you'll see in the next couple of days.
we have in store. I saw that I saw there's a Mexican one so go watch out on that CD. The Mexican family representing them. So look if you're not you're either
ordinary nut or you're a nut of steel. Now, they're different types of steels out there. So, this different type of rarity is based on how hard of a nut you are. The harder you are, like compared to ordinary nuts, like the rare you are. That's a good one.
I know I'm I think this is a really really cool idea You know, I think obviously it makes sense that like you know PFP
are one of the easiest ways to signal success of a project and rally around something. I think it's a really cool idea that it's only a 1500. It's a super small supply and it's going to be for the people who really actually want to use the platform and
And it's a really cool concept. And I love that it's a free mint and all those things like it's something that word daddy had as an offering, especially to those who are coming to our market talks. And so we hope that, you know, if you're if you're
plugged into the market, you're plugged into the things that are going on and the ways that we're expanding. And one of those easy ways is to just be plugged into NFT5. So we have those available for all the folks who came to our spaces. I mean, our voice chat. Do we,
Are we done collecting those names? I think we still have 10 more spots. I'm assuming we would be. But if you were lucky enough to get one, we're excited for Mint, which is June 9th.
Yep. Yeah, and I think I think we still have ten full thoughts about what I don't know if you're trying to speak but no one can hear you.
I can hear him now or what he just said. Go ahead.
interesting. Cool. Well, I do have a question about, so your platform, I actually have two questions. Your platform is built on Arbitrum, yet the NFT collection is on Ethereum. Correct? So can you explain that?
And then my second question is I posted this just here above. I Ben and I talked about this last week and it was kind of like a hot take. It was like, is the NFT 5PFP already here or is it going to be a new collection? And the basis of this question was like,
We see Pudgy Penguin's doing physical collectibles. We see D-God's playing the attention on the game. We are one of those things where I can't hear anybody, so I'm just going to be quiet in case other people are talking. It's just one of those like Twitter-Rudging situations. So sorry about that. I'm cutting anyone off. Oh, I can hear what Adi.
I can't so just to recap that like Pudgy penguins is like playing the physical collectible game you guys playing the attention economy wait we have Malady that is like a DeFi Financialized NFT like do you think that the next
100K PFP could potentially be from NFT prime mechanics and do you think that collection already exists or no? There you go. Those are my two questions. Oh, that's a good question. I feel like the most, but it looked like the PFP's, like the community is just
They're winning so hard right now like with so many things to have tougher them and there's like a pretty big overlap of Malady P.F.P.s and maybe that's for millions that are using NFT finance and I think that's a really organic way to have grown and I'm very very excited for the
communities, but I think if you have to talk about one PFP project that's an empty finance native, I think it has to be the spice people right, the spice prologue. Yeah it's the one that Marco has right now actually.
So hey, hopefully, much for nuts get into someone out as well. I would love for the nuts to be able to collaborate with a bunch of different energy finance teams and protocols.
Yeah, I've kind of talked about this before as well. Like I think that it's an interesting dynamic, right? Because I think I think prologue by surprise is like the only other NFT 5 pfp right? There is actually a few of them by
I would say the quality of others are not as high as the other. I would say the quality of others are not as high as the other. I would say the quality of others are not as high as the other. I would say the quality of others are not as high as the other. I would say the quality of others are not as high as the other. I would say the quality of others are not as high as the other. I would say the quality of#
to come a really long way and they've done a fantastic job at capturing the attention of not only people that are already interested in NFT finance but people from outside the space and getting them into the action of
earning yield in the NFT space through borrowing and lending markets. So I think they're really intertwined, but obviously the community element is what brings it together at the end of the day. And I think Valkyrie can speak about that as well since he's in the community that they've done a really
fantastic job of really connecting individuals and making them feel, you know, making them feel that they belong in that community. And that's what makes it real at the end of the day. So we, yeah, I think we definitely want to emulate some of that in my finance. So, yeah, once again, like just stay tuned.
And then as for the reason you guys are launching on Ethereum, do you guys want to touch on that? Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess like the perspective is that NFTs live on an Ethereum. I think, you know, to, you know, I'm big reason that actually of Mothin is also
to expand or reach ahead of our V2 that is coming out in a couple months or also call it the public version of NFT perp. I think a lot of people are not too comfortable with venturing out into other ecosystems. It is a
bit of a barrier and especially in this market, people don't really, yeah, they want to, to some extent, I mean a bunch of communities want to stay within their comfort zone, which, you know, I personally, especially, you know, sitting in an NFT financial disagree with, but you have to respect it since, you know, a lot of those communities are
people that we want to onboard eventually. So that is kind of, yeah, that is a bit of a deeper insight into why we chose Ethereum. Oh, and also secondly, go ahead. The NFTs are on Ethereum. I have them. I have a love of them.
But I also hate it because it's always Spencer. I love the fact that it's already there. So we recognize that. Now the important thing is, yes, not for not meant it's not a theorem, but they're not going to be everywhere.
They're going to be on a lot of different chains. And those functionalities will be introduced pretty soon after mint. And the idea is that we're in arbitrage, so the nuts can be in arbitrage as well. And we'll release on how that's done afterwards.
big, I'll fully care. And also just like to touch on one last thing is that, you know, Ethereum made it as home to tons of NFT finance protocols. So, you know, just a bit of a hint at some of the things they're going to be doing in our roadmap.
You know, we did we did obviously speak about you know coastal relationships with NFT finance protocol. So just stay tuned again. We we just love NFT finance. I love that. Phoebe, can you hear me now?
know. Yes, I can hear you. There we go. Okay, so we got cross-chain nuts. We got cross-chain nuts. ETH, Arbitrum, they're covering all these different things. I have a question for Stevie because I know Stevie has been giving me a hard time about NFT finance, but and I kind
want to hear some back and forth between maybe you and Jose. How do you feel about like longing and shorting floors? I know it has been like a point of contention for you. Like you think that as as this expands like I said earlier they have almost four hundred million dollars
in volume since late November of last year. How does that perspective, how has that changed, has it changed, and how do you think an NFT PFB that they're going to have, how do you think that is going to impact the ecosystem?
I guess step one, it's really, really important to be able to identify the folks who are really the hardest nuts in the ecosystem. And so I think the P.F.P. will really be able to help us really identify those and that's going to be really important. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
I think, you know, I think, you know, damn, okay, he's gonna have to hop off and hop back in. I hate Twitter sometimes. It's so annoying. Okay, so, uh, word out, did you want to tell him to hop off and come back in? Yep, done.
I'm doing it right now. The way that I feel about longing and shorting NFTs, it's a hard one. I'm on, yes I'm a trader, yes I'm trying to make money, but I'm also on a team who has seen the
who has seen what the speculative nature of the space has sort of done for sentiment and for the folks really trying to build a community and encourage folks to stick around and hang out and not be so speculative. I think, you know, it is a it's a loose
because the point for most of us, especially since this is a crypto product, is to make a little money. And, you know, what NFT purpose is doing is making it a little bit easier and creating these sort of derivatives, like financial derivative instruments that allow you to sort of capture
capture the market with that spending a lot of money. I think it's really easy. There's some like real easy wins and real easy ways to long and short, you know, a certain collection that you know some news is happening or something like that. I just, you know, as long as people are being, you know, responsible,
and not taking it to any sort of insane level of degeneracy, I'm here for it. I started this space, I started in crypto and in like, tradify with options and with trading. So I'm well-burst in that
world. It's wild to me to think of NFTs doing the same thing, but I think we are here to expand this space. We're here to legitimize it, and this is another way that at the very least the TRIFI industry has done it. So I'm going to be like open to the idea.
because there's a really good way to make money in this. As far as a PFP, I think there's a major way for this to become a flex. So I don't know if I heard that part of it being cross-chain nuts.
Are we saying that there is 1500 on Ethereum and then there may be 1500 on like Arbitrum, etc. Is that 1500 total? So you're going to be able to go on different chains by bridging bridging the nuts? Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's cool. I think
One of the other ways that I'm starting to see in the space of people, you know, sort of discovering new opportunities to make money is by going on different chains. Obviously, we're seeing this happen with ordinals and dosions and shit like.
Obviously, we're seeing it happen with with Arbitrum and and people trying to even, you know, farm this ZK snarf drop in and all those things, right? So I think people are starting to go, it doesn't really make any sense to be, you know, chain agnostic. And so
having more of a benefit to cross-chain and maybe explore while using some tools that might be able to be built in on those chains is a really cool idea. So that's awesome guys. That's off to you.
Wardaddy didn't were you expecting me to be more mean? Cuz I see it. No bro. Okay, look I'm just excited that we hear I'm excited to have your energy like I think I have one question here and that would be like so Stevie cuts her teeth on art, right?
I thought about is there a way to get artists involved in this and this spans the entire ecosystem, right? Like I think the lack of liquidity for NFTs that whether that be RTFPs utility NFTs it doesn't matter like there is a lack of liquidity there. So once we start putting
Some liquidity there and people are trading these more heavily. Think about being able to 10X Lev Long X-copy or something like that. I think it becomes very interesting and I think that there is a way for NFT finance to meet at the intersection of artists as well, not just the de-gents.
I mean, we've said it. I mean, we've seen Kevin say it to you before and I think it's pretty it makes the most sense to me. I think I'd like to I don't know that much about sort of like the the profit opportunity and all of those things, but you know, we all know that even in the traditional art
world there is you know lending and borrowing against you know a super high high value piece of art that just doesn't get sold you know a lot or you know there's not a ton of volume there so it's something that actually makes so much more sense to me as is where it is it is to
to provide more financial products against pieces of art that aren't super liquid and don't have a ton of volume because most of the people are not trying to sell but they wouldn't mind having a little bit of liquidity.
And most of the people who are trying to buy in, like want to buy in, but they know that no one's trying to sell. So usually the floors are pretty high. If we can find a way to, you know, accurately value those less liquid collections and really open it up to art.
will say like, I mean, art collectors are probably one of the bigger D-Gens ever. They usually have a little bit more risk and they have a lot more of a timeline, a longer timeline. I think it makes a lot of sense to focus on that world. And if you guys were trying to do that, that would be pretty good.
Yeah, I think it comes back to how liquidity landscape looks like for that specific section is. I feel like for those that are lower supply and higher value, it's tough to have harps around them, but in the case
of options will make a lot more sense. Those are a period here, covered in calls with puts. I think running and borrowing makes perfect sense with a lot of different high value assets. Like, think about traditional finance, you can mortgage your house,
loan on it, you can refinance. I feel like you can do a lot of things similar in the digital format and that's it, include art. And we love to see how we can support these different NFC funds, protocols that are put in the funds year breaks, programming to experiment with these different good ideas.
That's epic. Well, I know that we're coming up on time here. This space is recorded so we can pass this along to the Comptonio folks and also the proof folks. Do we have any closing thoughts, any closing questions, JP Max, thank you for being up here. I know that you're walking on the streets of Argentina right now, but
is great. I've been playing with the beta for a couple of months and at the beginning it was hard. I got liquidated pretty fast but then when you start understanding and we start playing with the platform you start learning everything that you can do. You get really excited
about what's coming and if art comes to the platform like you guys are saying it makes sense so I'm just happy for the collection and I'll be there and I'll try to translate everything with the continual team to for all the lagging American and Spanish-speaking people. So happy to be here.
Let's go. Word. So just a recap. Mint is on June 9th, you said? Yep. June 9th time still to be announced, but it will be in June 9th for 24 hours.
Epic. Epic. Dude, I can't wait. This has been awesome. Thank you guys so much for your time. I really do appreciate you guys coming on here for all the folks listening. Whether it be live or recorded. This is this is a cool project. There's there's so many different ways to take advantage of the NFT finance ecosystem and these guys
have been an early mover in the space. They've done a really great job at finding product market fit and I think it's just starting. So thank you guys for coming on. Thank you for offering some a collab of some sort to to continue on to proof as well and I just I really appreciate it. Thank you for having us.
Yeah, thanks. It was a pleasure. It was a pleasure. Epic, Stevie, thank you for bringing your energy, bro. Of course, bro. Bro. I love you, dude. All right. See you guys. Thank you. Take care, everyone.