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And if I had the power to rewind these years
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You can't live life on the weekend.
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Them go wide from the lifeline.
I know the tectonic place shifts under me, but they won't split apart in my lifetime.
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How we doing this morning?
Guys, we're getting everybody up.
We got Poppy, Cheezus, Bosu, F bosu ferdinand will we got rita we got
maha we have a lot of requests this morning folks i'm talking about they are piled up through
we are waiting for our man proof to get up in here i think he's having just a little bit of
connection issues we got rita coming up poppy how you doing this morning? I am blessed.
Finally, not sick anymore.
And, man, I'm just having fun again.
Like, I never stopped having fun, but I'm having a lot of fun.
And the space is healing, and good people are showing up and coming out of the woodwork so what a time what
a time i'm doing great though man i love to hear it i love to hear it guys if you see a little
thing come up over your phone there might be a connection issue have no fear everything is
situated we're getting up yo we got jesus in the building j, how are you doing this morning? GM, bro. Doing fantastic, man.
Energy around NFTs is like off the charts.
I love to see all these brands doing well.
Yo, is that Rita on stage with me?
Man, look at that nice gator hat, bro.
Glad to hear your sexy voice on this fine Sunday.
Oh, you know, listen, it wouldn't be the same if my sexy voice wasn't all over the place on a fine, fine Sunday.
I always choose between you and Celine Dion.
I always go for Machiavelli, man.
Yeah, listen, you know, that was my competition back in the day, singing in Vegas.
But, you know, things happen.
GM, GM, GM, and I am so sorry for living life for the weekend, right?
Hey, man, it's always an honor and a pleasure to be here amongst
you and Loki and all of the great speakers, but it's one MF-er in this crowd. I'm going to have
to wape him. I got to get some get back on Ryder. No, I'm just kidding, man. We love this guy. We
love everybody here, man. This is the Sunday NFT space. We're here to hear all things NFTs,
This is the Sunday NFT space. We're here to hear all things NFTs, talk about what's going on in the news and address the hard questions and have fun.
Can we address a little bit of news right now?
Feels here this past week on the 22nd, live on the Amazon slash other side, Yuga storefront and a one-year-old ip from the web3 space made his debut next to a whole
bunch of other you know ogs and uh that was the g's on ape right here founded by mr rita
tell us a little bit about that rita yeah i know so there was this small brand this small up-and-coming
mom-and-pop shop called. It's a web to startup.
We decided to support them and let them use our IP on Amazon.
Our IP is on the biggest online retailer.
It's had good feedback, good, good sales.
Very proud, very proud, very. I don't know. I don't even know how to explain it, but And yeah, no, no. Very proud, very proud.
I don't even know how to explain it.
You build, you get recognized, and it's an amazing feeling.
No, I was just going to tag in and double tap on that, man.
That is monumental. It's historic.
And it's moving in the right direction.
And it is hard to bottle that up.
It's hard to catch that lightning in a bottle.
And somehow this joker caught it.
Man, hats off to you, Rita.
Everything you do in over at Scepter Studios,
not just for your brand, but for the Web3 space in general.
And that's what this is all about, man.
Again, I'm honored to have flown to Miami to shake your hand and say,
I appreciate everything you do for this space.
And I'm nowhere near a representative thereof,
but I definitely can say that and I believe I echo the sentiment of everybody here that we appreciate everything you do for this space pushing us forward.
You know, what a lot of people might not know here in the building is Rita is the founder of Inceptive Studios, and they've been highly responsible for bringing some of the best brands and IP into the other side and usually whenever i i get with a founder or leader or something like that
or we're getting things worked out for their avatars and stuff like that we go straight into
inceptive studios and they produce very high quality avatars and they got a lot of great
things coming up your way this is a man to follow if you're a founder or anything like that you can
reach out to me you can reach out to inceptive or him you know what i'm saying but essentially
we can get all of your needs taken care of for that other world right there speaking of other world i think we there's been a penguin
sighting somewhere what's going on with that mac tell us about that bro i'm excited listen man i
don't know if i'm i don't know if i should say anything about that you know what i'm saying like
uh i i just know that listen um you know that bird didn't look flightless inside of that video.
Uh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Sorry, man. Wait, one second.
Mac, let me get you one second.
This last December. And, uh, yeah, man, I think that you, you guys seen that video that Rita produced and, uh, you know, I'm pretty sure something special is coming soon.
And I, that's all I can say, you know what I mean? Like, uh, I'm pretty sure something special is coming soon and i that's all i can say you
know what i mean like uh i'm pretty sure something special is coming soon all right well good i wanted
to step on your louis v's uh loafers for a second just to say this until i see the little funny
looking bird on the top left corner of this screen with the with the with a big uh boomerang on top
of his head flying in the other side i don't want it so let's get that bird all right so yesterday i i made my first avatar and
i rigged my first avatar and i learned all these things so listen i'm i'm learning too i'm back
out here cooking maybe we'll get that little penguin in there with that little boomerang and
all that one of these days soon you never know but uh that's definitely something that i would want to do especially do a little one-on-one especially for loki actually i just
figured that the sun and the stars lined up right now with the leader of the studios in here and we
might be able to uh make some shake hey bro send me your cash app or whatever you got rita and i
will send it over to you we need that bird burb in there. Then it's official. Then I believe it.
Until then, it's just a dream.
And I'm just a dreamer. Nothing comes
to a dreamer but a dream.
I see Jesus Christ in here, too. I'm sorry.
No, no. Loki needs to give me
his dream number or something so I can connect
He's got a G's on eight for you,
but he's up in flight right now.
but definitely we got him and he's take,
Just take my word for that.
It's mental telepathy or whatever that thing is.
And we're going to get that number over there, too.
You probably hear in the next couple of minutes.
When I say we, I'm talking about Mac and I.
Or if not Mac and I, just myself.
But anyway, let's get on with the show.
But that is the perfect opportunity.
I need to see that bird in there flying, bro.
Let's get into a little bit of some news you know what i'm saying uh new comic book alert coming out this week on the 28th that's right a new comic book alert coming out on the 28th
v friends is dropping number 10 with rare robot i almost opened up the show today with the rare
robot song i'm not gonna lie because i hold a rare robot and like i'm super excited about this drop coming up and everybody knows that the v friends community is super based
they got a lot of collectors and uh this is no different of a time right now with the 10th issue
coming out and like i love what they've kind of done it kind of feels like an nft a little bit like
the way that they've done it because they have packs that you rip and then you can get all these
different type of covers and stuff like that
that are, like, specific to the comics.
So there might be 1,000 of one set and 1,000 of another,
maybe 229, I believe, of another, stuff like that.
But I am super excited about the 28th drop.
And being a rare robot, I will be collecting, sir.
Yeah, no, awesome sauce, sir. Over to you, Proof. Awesome sauce. Yeah, no, awesome sauce, bro. That's,
uh, uh, that collection is, is I, I definitely got to get back into the Gary V ecosystem,
but I, I caught an entry on something the other day that just really resonated with me.
And it was a V friends, uh, two, and it was a shrimp that was bored and laying down on the
ground in front of a coffee shop and
I was like so I own a body I mean I own a coffee company and and I own a shrimp company why not just
and I got it and I branded it I love it I couldn't be more pleased with it you got it you became a
V-friend series dude you better know that man I had get back. Gary V is all over the place, bro.
If we can't appreciate him for what he's doing and get into his ecosystem, we're doing something wrong.
This guy has dedicated his life to NFTs openly on this show.
So, I mean, you know, and it has been doing that before.
So let's not take the credit for that.
But if we don't get back into his ecosystem and really get behind him, he's one of the wings beneath NFTs right now.
Adam, Luca, all of the founders, bro.
Garga, all of these guys.
You see Zagabon this week walking the show?
If we don't get behind these guys.
Look at him fucking fly in that car.
Yeah, we're doing it wrong.
And let me say this also.
Let me make honorable mention that Adam actually said and picked up like a grail world of women.
So, yeah, this is an NFT show.
I'm a little bit emotional.
McAvely, what's your next headline?
Because I'm going to take this thing off the rails.
Zuki was at Paris Fashion Week.
You know what I'm saying?
Like watching the cultures just kind of clash on one of the biggest stages
and watching one of those trading card pieces actually come to life.
To me, that's pretty amazing.
You would have asked me years ago that Zagabon will be strutting his stuff to life uh i don't know man to me that's pretty amazing i'm not gonna lie uh you would ask me
years ago that zagabon will be strutting his stuff down the parents fashion show runway i i wouldn't
i would have been like okay whatever you know what i'm saying but like we're literally watching
things like that happen live in real time this past week so very very exciting times you know
uh we we covered the feels you guys right this weekend, going on as we speak right now,
they're getting ready for a CryptoPunks brunch.
The Node Foundation launched this past Friday with a VIP on Friday night
featuring the 10,000 CryptoPunks.
And then with a whole day of, you know, not only exhibits,
but also panels and stuff like that this past Saturday.
And I heard they had a great attendance, a lot of OGs out there in Palo Alto this weekend.
Hopefully we can get a rare Anon sighting here in the space here in a little while,
and he can tell us if he enjoyed that Friday and Saturday.
I originally, you know, listen, I booked in everything to go, not even paying attention
that it was my mother's 65th birthday, uh, this weekend. And you know, you do not leave your mom
on her 65th birthday for anything. It doesn't matter what it is. You know what I'm saying?
So, uh, we got, uh, uh, a credit for us to fly anywhere else we need to fly and uh we we got
refunded on our hotel stay so shout out to uh buying the insurance you know what i'm saying
just in case yeah that's that's really what saved me if not i would not have got refunded
you know i'm saying um what's coming up next man we got frankie the frog i think i see
fortinan here here on stage.
Shout out to my man, Ferdinand.
You know what I'm saying?
Frankie's Diner migration is complete.
You know what I'm saying?
So they are migrating, I believe, to a 721C,
getting those royalties in place and stuff like that.
So shout out to Frankie's Dinner.
I meant Frankie's Dinner.
I am dyslexicic and i saw one in
i swear to god well you have to have dinner at the diner though right it's only right so you know
let's hear from uh we got ferdinand on stage ferdinand hello everyone thank you for having me
uh let me tell you a little something about dinner diner story, okay?
Let's clear this up once and forever, all right?
It's called Frankie's Dinner because, drumroll, Frankie is dinner.
Now you can easily remember.
Because I always see him sitting at the plate eating well listen um you know how in old cartoons like there's a little evil uh which
he feeds you first before he eats you you know what i mean that's the same yeah yeah yeah like
hansel and gretel she fattened those kids up just to bake them later. Exactly.
So the pig is feeding Frankie.
So then later he can get those juicy frog legs.
Yo, that's actually hilarious.
Yo, I just like, now I like the characters even more.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, now I like the characters even more.
i spent three years thinking it was frankie's diner and i yeah wow you can't listen listen
it's a common mistake it is what it is now you know though now you know we're gonna we're gonna
teach more people so it is it's fine so the so the contraction is not that frankie uh it is frankie's possession of ownership of the
the diner or dinner but frankie is the dinner oh my god correct diabolical yes the pig is the one
who owns the diner yeah and he wants to add a new menu the new menu item the frog legs
frog legs. But yeah, we did migrate, uh,
some to one C now we get royalties and with our new
hub website coming very, very soon,
we can just reward our holders even better. I mean,
we already got like free stuff in our games, free tickets in Frankie go,
basically allows you to get, you know, free juice.
You play for free, you get the juice.
And now with the hub, it's just, hey, listen, it's just Leap Squad is going to get more stuff, more dinners.
Yo, man, that's very, very exciting, Ferdinand. Speaking of migrations, the Chimpers also started their migration this past week,
also to enforce royalties, which is super exciting.
And if I'm not mistaken, the way that they're rolling out, too,
is you have exactly one year to migrate.
And then after that point in time, the team will be migrating the rest of the contract
and holding them in a vault.
And individuals who later discover that, oh, whoa, this is not there no more.
And they can come to the Chimpers team and still claim their NFT in the future.
So I was super excited to see that they thought all the way through that
and that they're executing on this and they have a one-year time period.
So shout out to Insight, Sir Joey, and the team.
We love to see it. And yo,
let's get those royalties for the Chimpers. We talking about an IP in Web3 that's, you know,
they also made their debuts with the Fields this last week on the 22nd. And they're just cooking,
man, from their blind box, plushies and stuff like that. Everything. They got Chimpy, the cute,
Listen, that chubby little monkey, everybody loves him.
Because everybody in my house was like,
yo, where's that green little chubby monkey with the iPads you're running around with?
And I was like, yo, that's my mutant Chimpy.
You know what I'm saying?
So shout out to the Chimpers.
If you do have a Chimper, make sure you are migrating.
What happens is your NFT will be locked in
the migration contract and you will be issued a brand new NFT, exactly the same as before.
All of that, you know what I'm saying? You are getting your specific NFT. Metadata is not
changing. None of that stuff's changing. You know what I'm saying? So true to form,
shout out to the Chimpers. We love to see it. Back to you, Proof.
You know, definitely we love to see that everybody's moving forward.
They're thinking it through. And that's something that a lot of the 2021 collections, the OG collections, because it was just such a bull run.
Nobody was actually thinking that far through. But this is something that makes and creates sustainability as we think through the whole plan and the two, five and 10 year projecteds and what have you.
And, you know, just going forward. So something huge in the news that's been going around in a tweet from a live video from the founder or the owner of Pudgy Penguins was an open affirmation to be willing to work
and do some collective bargaining, if you would, to help solidify cross-pollination,
excuse me, cross-pollination and roots into other communities.
Luca Nets, man, I got to take my hat off to this guy.
I have before. I don't want to make this the Glaze show, but you got to take my hat off to this guy. I have before. I don't
want to make this the Glaze show, but you got to take your hat off to him by saying, from him
saying that- You get your job at Krispy Kreme back? I need it, man, because I'm the Glazer.
Without that, you don't have Glaze Krispy Kreme donuts. But definitely for him to say, hey, you
know what? I look forward to some other side.
Oh, whatever the context that was,
I've seen it a thousand times,
but right now as I'm saying it,
I'm still reeling because Rita
and Inceptive Studios is here.
when Luca reached out in that regard,
I think it helped to open the door,
helped to bring down some walls from,
you know, some of us were standing off PVP-ish and just saying, guys, you know what?
This is not about being PVP.
This is about us moving this space forward and collectively. And I think that was, I commend that.
What do you think about that, Mac?
You know, the Penguin Beef, the Penguin Ape Beef was started by some weirdo community members who probably don't even hold no more who like to see division because in
an ecosystem like this, when you have two strong heavy hitters, such as the board apes and the
pudgy penguins doesn't, I'm not talking about who came first, none of those things, but like
when you look at our ecosystem as a whole, you know what I mean? Like this, this place is too
small and this world is too big for us not to be.
And, you know, I think that, you know, as busy as these men are and stuff like that, that, you know, like Luca said, they should be closer.
And listen, all of us who've been standing here since the get go want to see that.
Let me be real. Like, you know what I mean? Like I'll hold the penguins hand any day of the week.
I already have one that holds my hand every week. His name is Loki. You know what I mean? And like, so he's got two apes sitting right next to him up here and say,
if y'all, if y'all don't see the unification and how willing we really want this, and I don't know
what else to tell y'all, you know what I'm saying? But, uh, it's alive, it's active, it's attractive.
And I think that it's each one, reach one, teach one, because we set the tone, we set the precedence,
you know what I'm saying? It's our behaviors and stuff like that and that beef and all that that drama i feel is just like a bunch of weirdo
community members that don't even hold anymore they're they're not prevalent they haven't been
present in a long time so we need to kick the dust past that and and keep it pushing to the
brighter future you know what i'm saying that's that's really what this is about and you know
anybody in this ecosystem especially what we see igloo doing what we see
yuga doing you know all these other brands you know it's it's important that there's unification
nobody's going to come into the playground where all the the cool kids are fighting i'm going to
tell you like that nobody wants to go play in that playground so i am super excited to see what
evolves from this you know i'm saying we might even have these guys stop by today or this next week,
or you never even know because this is the NFT shows and we do pack full of
So I'm excited about that.
I think at this pivotal moment where the bottom may have been reached and may
have not been reached, I think as we build
closer to the bottom, it just solidifies a healthier foundation as we build back up. And
if your house is built on sand, once you get the roof up, it's going to fall eventually.
But when you got a good foundation and you built in cement and concrete and built down in the
ground and you got stilts going down to different layers
in the ground, you're not going to move at all. And you're only going to move in one direction.
That's up. Poppy, I see you over there throwing up the love emoji. I know you got something to
say for that. We're honored to have you here, Poppy. Jump in there for a second, bro.
Hey, great, great topic. And I think you guys both have like the right take on it and the right attitude towards, you know, coexisting.
And look, I think that every project, every brand, every business essentially has to stay focused.
And, you know, I get it. You can't jump around and maxi into all these other projects and sit there and, you know, glaze each other every day.
I don't think that's that's what anybody's asking for. But at the end of the day, finding mutual respect amongst founders and
building trust and friendships and supporting each other is the only thing that's going to allow us to
grow this space from the inside out. Because we want the outside to and the inside of the inside out, sorry, because we want the outside to come in.
But if the inside is, is not stable, people jump in, get their first NFT and it's drama,
more likely than not, they're going to say, yeah, you know, this isn't for me. And, you know,
we preach that NFTs are community and innovation and, you know, membership.
Um, I mean, you just, you don't, you don't really coexist very long if you're, if you're
Um, I have friendships with, with nearly almost every founder in the space, in the, in the
And, you know, we don't talk every day but we exchange texts dms i try to hold at least one nft
from uh from each of their projects to support and i think that you know this is uh this is the
only way that we're going to do it and if you talk about it enough and people see it that's a
good thing but doing it is another right leading by Leading by example. So it's good.
It's a good step in the right direction.
And just remember, like when,
this is a good reminder for everybody.
When things are really, really, really good,
it's easy to dunk on everyone around you, right?
It's easy to say, we're the best and we're going to mop.
You know, look, some of these founders,
we don't need to get into that,
but some of these founders in the past
have quotes that are not so collaborative. They're, you know, look, some of these founders, we don't need to get into that, but some of these founders in the past have quotes that are not so collaborative. They're, you know, we're here to dunk on everybody essentially. And, you know, things like that are very damaging to the space. And we've heard it. We've heard it several times. And there's a few projects that I don't hold anymore because of comments like that. And look, time heals when things, when people get humbled, you know, floor price is correct, you know, uh, volume corrects
people get humbled. And I think it's easier to, to look around at the space when you're not the,
the only tall building, all the buildings are getting tall. Um, it's easy to look around and
go, yeah, we're probably better off, you know, not pigeonholing
our people and saying, oh, it's only this project. It's only that project. So yeah, I mean, overall,
I think it's great. The spirit, I'll tell you the spirit in the, I will call it the lower floor
price collections, let's say like around one ETH, the spirit is really high right now. And
you've got people like Adam, you've got people like Gary who have magnified that, you know,
Gary and Adam both in the last few weeks have gone in and bought projects like less than three,
um, regions and some ghost labs, some projects, super high gas fees, amazing guy. Right. And I mean, that's a great
friend, great supporter. Him and I are going to work on some stuff together this year. And
it just, it's, it's really, it made me really happy to see people like that. I mean, you got
Yacht on stage with Thugs, which is an incredible brand that's doing great things and to see people like that get the get the love from
you know mega whales guys with you know the infinite eath tree it seems at times
it's a good thing this is what heals the space this is what makes it better
um and and yeah it's really good it's great
this is how we grow you're right back this is how we grow bro we put we put the amazon prime box
give him some cute little quirky antennas with a board ape underneath like this is how we grow
it's how we do it yo listen i'm not gonna lie i'm so glad he pfp'd that thing and he's not a man that
really changes pfp when he changes it so i'm like you know me i'm uh loki hits me up every day he's
like what are you wearing today like what are you are you going to change the PFP to today?
Because I know you're going to change it.
But my man, Bruce, by the way, Poppy, I tagged you in something.
And I was running around yesterday.
That's all I'm going to say.
I blew it up this morning.
I didn't see it till like 20 minutes ago.
But I'm minting booger if booger comes to life.
I got a booger right now.
Hey, and proof, it's an honor, bro.
I saw you with the PFP on, man.
Well, no, actually, it's an honor for me, bro.
The flowers get slapped back in your face, and I don't mean that disrespectfully, but
it's an honor for me to get a one-on-one just to get an honorable mention by any you know any stretch of the words so definitely i really
appreciate that to you and your artist um she's going to probably claw my eyes out because i can't
think of her name right now um yeah yeah so um i definitely want to say that but no bro we appreciate
you and your presence and the presence that you bring here every week.
I don't know if this guy was triggered or if he's going to play the music and let Wapey go and get waived off the stage or not.
But Chinsanity, over to you, bro.
I guess I'm getting fired today.
I guess I'm not getting fired today, then.
Hey, thanks, Chin Sanity.
gm good afternoon good evening wherever you are in this wonderful wonderful planet uh man guys
the vibes of nft is up man i'm just fired up to be on this space because dude entities are like
back man i really love the the love and even even for me like just as a collector right
like i shared on this space before like i got into this crypto thing through nfts through these
cartoons through nba top shot and it's really cool just to see like just the vibes back in a way
right communities hosting spaces like people supporting each other you know tweeting about it
and yeah this is really cool
this is really cool just me as you know just as a collector as an enjoyer right i i shared before
i'm just weird i like staring at my nfts i sometimes i go to my wallet i look at some
spts i turn it around zoom in zoom out it's weird it's weird but i enjoy it i enjoy it
uh again thanks for having me i almost got to my intro. I thought Loki
because he was in the air.
I didn't know he knew how to mute things.
I don't know. Is Loki speaking today?
I knew that's what happened, bro.
As soon as it said Avengers and then
it went quiet, I was like, oh,
Is Loki can't speak today?
I don't think Loki's here
I think he's farming the stage
Yeah we'll send his invoice to his DM shortly
Hopefully he's like Poppy said
Got the infinite ETH tree
So you know we'll send him a high invoice
Yeah Loki's out right now
Buying one grail from every collection
we appreciate that honestly smites man right exactly jesus how you doing today good sir always coming in with that sound the the sound
that everybody stands up and looks around like damn is this guy in the room with me
this past week uh proof i've seen adam and not
like not only did adam get a zards and he got all these other collections but i see that he picked
up a pretty freaking grail creeps yeah he did yeah uh we don't know what what he what what the deal
was it was something otc um think he had a call with the team and you know a bunch of other og
holders and whatnot people have been everybody's trying
to get adam's attention you know he's the one guy running around buying one-on-ones from every
collection so everybody wants adam to be a part of their community and um which is deservingly
so there's so many great communities in in the space and um like luca, when he was talking to Spencer, we need five more Adams. We'll have an NFT bull run.
But it also goes back to, you know, kind of what Luca said with him saying like, yeah, he wants to, you know, he wants to see apes and penguins together on the other side.
And he wants to see all these brands, you know, start doing things together like i was looking at the strategy website and i'm like
i'm sitting there thinking in my mind how in the hell can we get all these brands to actually work
together inside of the strategy because while like i think the strategy platform is great
i don't think token works does a good enough job to i'm trying to figure out how to phrase this without fucking because it's not token work well
it's not token works job to pump communities but they should be they should be supporting the
brands that decide to trust their platform they should be putting more eyes on those brands and
they should be highlighting they should have a like a you know somebody on
their social side doing just even tweets weekly showing the biggest movers uh just coming on
stages supporting brands nft brands so to me it's like well are they just here to collect the
fucking fees and run up punkster or like i i think there needs to be more of an initiative
from that side so there's we need to meet the pr from that side. We need to meet the PR team, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
We need to meet the team inside of Tokenworks.
I think that's what you want to see, huh?
Well, I mean, I think they could do more to lift these brands up
that are on there and show a little bit more support
because every time Poppy tweets about the Quirky's token
or Genuine undead tweets or
like some of these brands aren't even tweeting about their shit we don't even like does anybody
even know what pudgy strategy does with their token like some of these brands don't even say
anything so it's like i think they're building igloos in antarctica all the little penguins
well but they got one little penguin
walking with donald trump into the off into the i'm sorry go ahead well my point is is that okay
listen i was told to buy it and i faded it and i'm so mad because i was literally watching the
chart in real time and had seen it run up to like a hundred like in five minutes and i was like what
the yeah we had a guy call it at a meal he got in at a meal and i were chatting yeah whatever
but my my point is every time any of these brands tweet about their strategy coin they're
advertising the strategy website and they're advertising to bring other brands there and
see what these strategy coins are about so i just think you know the strategy team can kind of you
know kick back and help some of these brands at the same time.
Because they didn't have to launch.
Poppy could have launched the fucking coin anywhere he wanted.
But he chose to do it through strategy.
Definitely, comms and PR is a part of propagating and keeping it moving forward.
is a part of propagating and keeping it moving forward. We can all probably take a page from
Pudgy Penguin's playbook of staying relevant, staying out there, staying on the scene,
getting people to know who you are and becoming a household name and what that does for proliferation
of your brand. And I don't want to use proliferation as a dog whistle, but definitely so. So let's move around just a little bit. Shields, I see you out there.
It's lovely to see you here today. Thank you for coming and sharing your time with us.
Jump in there. I see you. I know we know you're very opinionated, but jump on in there.
Oh, me? No, never. I'm not opinionated at all.
And we love everyone you have. There you go.
No, I thought it was wonderful.
Myself, I even commented on the video.
Whoever made the clip that Luca did make that mention.
I think I commented, I even tagged Loki maybe, and I was like, oh my gosh, are they listening to the show for all of you all and what you talk about all the time?
And I just, I feel like that did influence it.
I feel like the fact that these conversations are had here every Sunday, the people who are coming here and having these conversations with us, the founders who are speaking out out of love.
It's always been out of love and respect.
I think that it's made its way back to where hopefully it's resonated and maybe struck
a chord. But I was I personally am grateful to have seen that that happened. I think that it
that we're only going to see it. That's the beginning of it. I genuinely believe that.
I think with Node opening this weekend as well and all the stuff that's going on there
and people seeing the opportunities that it's bringing for others when you collectively come together.
So I just think that that has had a big impact as well.
But more than anything, I know that I've talked about the proliferation of the brand itself.
And I've talked positively about that side of it and how I do think from a strategy and execution.
I think they're doing excellent. I think they're doing smart business to get their brand out there. And I've
said it before, I'll say it again. What was it in 24? I think maybe when Luca made the comment on
some podcast where he said, look, we're trying to be the next Hello Kitty here. Like, think about
how long it took to proliferate Hello Kitty. And now think of how worldwide it is. Pudges is going to be bigger than that.
And when he said that was such conviction,
You knew where it was going to go.
So I've always been a little confused somewhat
by community holders who maybe have struggled
And for me, it's more of a,
well, then why are you still a part of the community?
Maybe you want to find a different community to jive with because it's not what it was before and you don't like the growth that's happening.
But maybe it's really more about you just finding one to jive with instead of trying to force your narrative on the overall direction of the majority of what it looks like the community is on board for from where I'm sitting.
So there's just my feedback. 100%. We love it. If you guys don't absolutely love Shields and
support her, then I don't like you. And she said it. The sentiment of this space,
it helps out talking through these things, talking through the issues,
and saying the tough stuff out loud. It definitely helps. Yacht, I saw your hand fly up. I don't know if I triggered you
or not by saying if you don't love shills, but if you get up here and say you don't
love shills, you're getting wiped off the stage. I'm just kidding. Go ahead, Yacht.
Yo, yeah, nah good. We all love shills here. Now, it's good to be up here. It's my first
time speaking on this space, actually. The penguin you mentioned, that boomerang fucking thing in the corner,
invited me a few times and I was never able to make it. So it's good to finally be up here with
a lot of legends, to be honest. Yeah, I think... Nobody puts Logie in the corner.
I think what Shields mentioned is important. I'm fairly new to Founder Life.
We started off our campaign roughly a year ago.
It's five months of pre-mint grind,
and then I've been a founder for seven months now.
So I think one of the things that I've really had a bit of a learning curve with
is that whole shift of mentality of like, why are
And I kind of fell into that trap a little bit in certain places of like trying to just
please everyone and it just didn't work.
And, you know, I think having that sort of end goal, that vision, and even though there
is things that you have to pivot with, especially from my point of view, that kind of gets you across certain matters without really distracting from that goal in certain ways is definitely a learning curve.
But at the same time, it's always good to understand these people as well.
Like, I'll be honest, like I'm fairly poor.
I did everything myself. I had hundreds
of calls every week with people. I was on spaces daily, streams, all sorts. I mean, Papi,
I'll give you a shout out, man. He's recently been in my DMs a few times in the last few months.
Solid guy, solid connection to have. And we have sort of helped each other out with a couple
connections in the background as well. But that sort of network is so integral to have,
like so, so integral to have as a founder and making sure that what you do is at least
transparently put out there for those that even if they are like sort of sidelined community
members, they're not really active they
just sort of hold and want to keep an eye on things it's good because they at least know right
and I think that kind of ties in with what you were saying about the strategy token as well
like there are some out there that I see absolutely nothing of but my timeline is completely and utterly full of Pappy, Insight, and Tyler. Literally,
that's the three guys that keep popping up so consistently in this last couple months.
And I'm happy that I'm close to these guys because they're inspirational for me as a new
founder. They lead the way in from what I see like if they're all over my timeline and people are not just seeing their tweets but posting about them and that's how I see them like
as a byproduct of other creators posts they're doing something right so yeah just uh that's like
my two cents of everything here but overall I think even if you don't please everyone that
mutual respect is key and uh being able to push on and keep to your
vision is something that, yeah, we should all take a little bit of a leaf out of that book.
100% God. Your net worth definitely is your net worth. And, you know, even if you're small and
get it out the mud, it builds. And that's what we was just, that's what I was referring to,
alluding to earlier when I was talking about building in the sand versus building in concrete and steel joists.
And it seems like you are building in concrete and steel and you can do anything but go.
You won't do anything but go up. You won't come back down.
And as long as you make those relationships and solidify those, you always have that network to be your net worth.
And so regardless to if you are a thousand dollar market cap project or a hundred million
dollar market cap project, those things matter. And that's what moves us forward in the space.
So we appreciate you for being there and being that kind of guy. I want to check on Loki,
We appreciate you for being there and being that kind of guy.
Want to check on Loki, throw us a thumbs up if you're okay,
if the plane is still in flight and, you know, he's unmuted.
No, I was trying to break a new record, guys.
So I think I'm retiring and this is my last show.
No, I was really enjoying. And this is my last show. Thanks everyone.
Can you at least just start on Sundays for us?
Really enjoying. Also, y'all, first time here I made a really, really good point.
We are talking about alignment. We are talking about how 2026 will look like.
And based on his feed and my feed as well. I mean, it's not just about floor price, but yes,
people need to get some sort of incentive.
People need to be excited.
So definitely it's not just about money.
Yeah, you got to build your culture.
You got to build your stuff.
But it's paying off for the brand and who knows?
Who knows what's going to be the next kind of alignment for brands.
And by the way, yeah, guys, I see we have so many requests.
Sorry, we are going to rotate.
And don't take it personal.
We are just like waiting for everybody to join.
I don't know who the first
guy is gonna get rotated out that guy with the music and the of angels mount up i'm sorry
chinsanity we love you no no thanks uh thanks for letting me up um big up to everyone i need to step
down in any case uh thank you guys for the support um and thanks for holding the space every sunday
with consistency i think it's as important as the
nft founders um the spaces the consistency of spaces is as important thank you guys thank you
for the opportunity much love thanks for coming appreciate you for everything you do
yo loki i gotta get your i forgot it's like 3 a.m. over there. I gotta send Loki that... He's trying to send Loki that G's.
He's got a special Loki G's.
Yeah, also I see today we have a lot of abstract projects here on stage.
A project that we built on abstract.
It's totally random, actually.
But let's go to A will welcome welcome thank you loki and team appreciate you guys having me an awesome space awesome
conversation uh yeah just to kind of piggyback on what everybody's saying definitely feeling the
reinvigoration and the vibes coming back in nfts it's a beautiful time in the industry and i think
what you're seeing is a lot of the speculators and the real people that were
here just for the quick flip.
Most of those people, they left the NFT space.
What you're left with is a lot of true believers that are doubling down and completely agree
There's no projects that are against each other here.
We're all supporting each other.
We're all supporting other builders in the space to make sure that we all succeed in
the best way possible. This is a rising tide lifts all boats. This space is so relatively small
compared to other industries, but that's also the beautiful thing about it is because it's so
nascent, we all get to know each other. We all know each other by name. We reach out to each
other. We support each other and that space will grow over time. But this existing community here,
these early believers that are really building it brick by brick,
we get to do it together.
That's the beauty of NFTs.
The beauty of NFTs and having a community
is because you have a hive mind,
a hive mind of people that could build with each other
And we have that in our communities,
in our existing projects, individual projects,
but we also have that as an industry.
We are a hive mind as an industry
and we're all sharing ways that we can grow together.
So I'm just really, really excited.
I feel honored and blessed to be a part of this industry
and a part of conversations like this.
So just keep doing what you guys are doing.
And yeah, thanks for having me up.
And also what Shills were saying
really, really resonated with me.
And I think we lose sight of how how
long it takes to build a brand like typically from a brand perspective and a brand building
perspective it's like three to five years before characters can have real mind share like with like
the general public for us obviously we know like the big nft brand etc but for real mind share and
to create a big public brand that that's three to five years.
And if you want iconic status,
we compare things to like Pokemon,
Hello Kitty, Mickey, et cetera.
That's 10 plus years for even those iconic characters
that took to have real mindshare and iconic status.
So if we just continue to play the long game,
we've only been here for a few years now
If we continue to play the long game,
we all will succeed together.
So thanks for having me up and honored and honored to share my sunday with you guys and and big shout
out to everybody and uh and blessings to everybody in the midwest dealing with that snowstorm hope
everybody stays safe out there bro yes no the grocery store is empty bro like i'm not even
kidding when i tell you the grocery store is empty.
I just drove back after 50 minutes of literal brutal snow.
It's already snowed like 15 to 20 centimeters.
And literally everything is fucking covered almost knee deep in snow.
It's minus 30 degrees with wind chill.
Why do I live here? But you sound bright-eyed and brilliant chill, my man.
How are you doing this morning?
And I don't know why my parents decided to bring me here
out of all the places in the world,
which is the fucking coldest place on earth.
It's literally knee-deep snow right now,
and it's minus 30 degrees.
You're just, like, stuck in a cave.
Thank you, KMA, for your valuable insight.
Talking about NFTs, fuck you, bitch.
No, guys, good point. I'm working
I think I haven't heard from you,
Machiavelli. We've seen the Pangu
first time, finally, on the other side.
I don't know when it's going live, but that's something.
That is really, really exciting.
And I think we just have to wait for the actual teams to go ahead
and make those announcements and, you know, talk about that,
what that experience is going to be.
So I just, I look really, really forward to it,
and I was happy to be a part of the conversation
And besides having OG brands collaborating, I think also what was missing for the last
one or two years was showing up.
years was showing up and I mean I understand like there are some brands they're really like
And I mean, I understand.
working hard on one under fronts so they don't have time to ship off they don't have time to
show up on spaces but actually that's I mean we've seen Gary coming back and a lot of people
join VFriends right we've seen here founders joining us since last year.
And it's working because this is the market. The market is here.
And at the moment, we are just like a niche of crypto.
So I feel like the way we attract people, it's here. It's here on X.
And as Yot said before, I mean, the timeline, you read an exciting timeline.
People are excited to be part of a community.
People are excited to be on stage and talking and listening, and we are going to see numbers of NFT space are numerous.
So obviously you will get attracted by this, right?
So I hope it will continue for this 2026.
Fortnite and then Marianne.
Thank you, Lockie. It's very nice to hear you.
I was afraid that I will never hear from you in this space, to be honest.
But listen, thank you so much for having me.
I do need to step away because my birthday dinner is waiting for me.
Today is a little chill day.
So, listen, I did tell Loki that I will try to make it and I made it.
And it was a big pleasure.
Very excited about the NFT space.
And I just love the love that is in the air.
And everyone is being friendly and working together.
And shout out to Mac. Very great guy to work with. that is in the air and everyone is being friendly and working together and shout
out to Mac very great guy to work with wink wink but yeah thank you so much
you can bring up Maha I've heard this a great guy to talk to so yeah thank you
guys so much chat later happy birthday Ferdinand but I want to ask you you said
you got your birthday dinner is did you fatten up the frog for to have no no no no no if you mention frog legs and
especially god forbid you post an image of frog legs in our discord I will ban you it is
forbidden that's hey listen I don't make the rules I do but you know to shame
my black I get it do not post frog legs yes sir we're happy enjoy your birthday
bro thank you thank you all right chat later bye ciao yeah literally chow down Yes, sir. We're happy. Enjoy your birthday, bro. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Chat letter. Bye.
Yeah, literally chow down on them froglets. I'm just kidding.
Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for having me.
I had a little gut feeling that I felt like, and usually, like I've been, I know you guys know, I've raised my hand for like a long time and I wanted to stay because I had a little gut feeling that, I don't know,
I felt like sharing a very, like in a very quick way, a little bit of my story to remind people
why NFTs are such a great technology and why the best communities are built around them.
Because NFTs completely changed my life.
And those who know me know how NFTs changed my life.
And so basically, I come from one of the smallest and most chaotic countries on earth.
Back in 2020, we've had one of the largest explosions in the world. There was an insane hyperinflation that made our currency go from like,
one piece of our currency used to be like a dollar
and now it's like a hundred of them.
So it was an insane hyperinflation.
There was a shortage of water, shortage of gas.
And I was just, I was just sitting in my,
can you hear me by the way?
There was a little internet cutoff.
and I was trying to find a way to actually travel
because I didn't want to be in my country anymore.
A lot of political corruption, a lot of problems.
And then as I was looking for part-time jobs
back on Clubhouse, I had a few
friends on Clubhouse who were talking about social issues. This was like my side passion.
I got a part-time job very randomly at a company and I did not know what it was about. And it ended
up being a new NFT marketplace that was opening in my region in the Middle East. And so I was doing
some research because my role was a talent
acquisition and I had to convince artists to come and start creating NFTs on the platform.
And I discovered CT. And when I discovered CT, I got super passionate about everything. I decided
to come and try to mint an NFT from a project that I thought was cool. And obviously I got scammed.
All I had to my name was $200 plus $100 that I borrowed from a friend
because I wanted to mend this and it ended up being a total scam.
And so I decided to go in a route that was a little less risky.
And noting that my whole life I've been building offline communities,
I noticed that there was Discord servers
and people were handling those communities in those Discord servers. So I started hitting up a lot of projects, telling them like, hey,
I'll help you manage your community. I have a lot of experience from Web2 just for an NFT.
And so I was like, this was the best way to actually get some NFTs without putting myself
at risk because I was literally at negative dollars in my bank account
in my name. And I was extremely lucky that I had a project. It's not here anymore, but Zeneca was
an advisor for it and our chick back in the day, if anyone remembers. There were advisors for it.
And it was my first actual gig. They were like, we love your energy. We would do whatever you want.
What is the minimum that you,
what is a good amount you would need
for you to be able to stay in your country,
work whatever you're doing right now,
and just keep doing what you're doing.
And I gave them a number.
this was like a number that was a dream for me.
I was 19 or 18 years old.
And I was just, the country was in shambles.
My parents were depressed.
The whole country was like, it was crazy.
And this was the start of everything.
And I'm still in community building and marketing right now.
And I had a World of Women galaxy that I bought at the top after a few successful gigs.
And it helped me grow to 10,000 followers through Spaces by having my World of Women galaxy shout
out to the WoW team. And then I had a persona with which I grew to 40,000 followers by talking
about NFTs on a certain blockchain as well. And buying a little pudgy also opened up a lot of opportunities for me.
And last year, I was streaming literally live in Token 2049 Dubai in a side event.
And all of those opportunities came to me because of NFTs, and thanks to NFTs.
And all the connections that I have in my life right now are thanks to NFTs. I was able to open my own company because of NFTs.
And so no matter what I do in my life right now,
there is nothing that gives me the sense of belonging
and the sense of community
more than what I felt throughout these past few years.
And a lot of people say like,
okay, those are cartoon JPEGs.
We'll never see the 2021 run again.
I don't think we need to see the 2021 run again.
I don't think that's the purpose.
I think the opportunities that NFTs open up, and I think when people start to appreciate that those
are collectibles and understand the real meaning behind being part of a collectible community and
family, that is a little bit beyond just pricing. Of course, the price matters, but there's a lot
more that can happen because of that. There's a lot more to this story. But again, NFTs changed my life. And I know that it changed a lot of people's lives.
And I'm just super, super grateful for these awesome little cartoon characters that
let us be here today and travel the world and meet people and work together and make money.
So for all the people that don't believe in NFTs anymore, I think that
you should look at them in a different way and try to talk to people more, try to network more.
You're one hi, you're one hello, one GM away, one NFT away potentially, and a connection from a
completely different life. Because without them, I would genuinely right now, I quit law school
after I discovered this space. I would genuinely be in law school, depressed, working at McDonald's.
By the way, I was applying to McDonald's before I got this part-time job.
And I'm completely serious.
And my role was literally to go and flip burgers.
So my life completely changed.
And it's all thanks to those cartoon PFPs.
Well, I would have hired you because I'm the king technician of the fry machine,
and I would have been able to say, hey, that's Mariana. We're going to give her a job, and we're
going to help her see it through. But if I may, just for one second, to add to your story, that's
a beautiful story. I'm glad you're doing well. So some of us are outliers where we get a chance
like that. But for others of us who aren't, the technology still
affords international communities. It still affords all, I mean, all walks of life to come
together, be able, like right now, we're talking with people like Rita, he's in Dubai and, you know,
people all over the world. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. People all over the world can come together and
just have conversations, talk things through and do what it takes years and years of planning to do real quick. If you think about it, Lego is doing
a shoot. They got a slip-on shoot. It looks like a big Lego block, right? Well, that company was
founded in 1932, but they started off as an actual wooden company. They were working with wood. It wasn't plastic. It wasn't until 1947 until they
actually pivoted to the actual plastic toys that you see today. And then they still didn't even
patent that stuff until 11 years later. So it takes time for even in real life, the big iconic
companies now to get to where they are. So this space moves so fast, we expect that to happen overnight
But I saw Tima's hand come up
and hopefully he's not triggered by anything I said
because I don't want to get cussed out.
He put it down because he wanted to tell us
the story of Lego, I think.
So that's why I put it down.
No, I was actually just resonating
with Marianne's story, actually i i come from similar
backgrounds quite honestly like there was a i come from very humble background to the point where
there was a time where i didn't know or my family didn't know if we'd have enough money to put food
on the table next month and like you know we migrated to canada i did my university i work a full-time job to this day
i don't know how many people actually know that but nfts was really what make made a difference
for me because i support my family my parents my own family uh but aside from that like just
yesterday i was able to pay off their debt a debt that they'd collected for almost like 17 years of their life, you know, just like loans that they'd taken to educate me and my sisters.
Like it wasn't even all for themselves, like, you know, so it's just, I don't think I would have ever been able to do that, or at least not anytime in the near future if it wasn't for NFTs.
So I'm extremely grateful for
what this space does and like you know all the opportunities it provides okay let's have let's
have a real talk i appreciate you for sharing this time um we all love collectors we all love the
whales coming to buy grails coming to sweep the floor i mean that, that's pretty easy. But TMA, how do you live with the fact that
sometimes there are people accusing you that you're dumping their bags? Because, of course,
in order to sustain yourself, you've got to sell, right? So, I mean, you can be a collector,
you can be both, but you've got to sell sometimes. So, how do you live with that?
I think it used to affect me a lot more earlier on when i
used to see that criticism over time i've just started to be a little bit more numb to it because
i've kind of understood the bigger bigger your account is the more more eyes you're gonna have
and naturally like you know when you have a voice where other people actually listen to you follow
you i think you get criticized more because naturally when you're selling people expect others to follow you and sell with you kind of a situation
which is which isn't always true right like like i sold many gvcs gvc is still
fucking trading at 0.9 right like so if if the team delivers it doesn't matter if one person
sells or not like but i feel like this space often just
puts the weight on just that one person kind of shifts the blame to them rather than kind of like
holding the team accountable but quite honestly like i don't care anymore like at the end of the
day i'm here to make money i'm here to make a difference to the space i'm i'm trying to do as
much as i can to support the space i sweep floors i collect nfts but then despite that if i'm i'm trying to do as much as i can to support the space i sweep floors i collect nfts
but then despite that if i'm not allowed to make money and if someone has a problem with that then
quite frankly i don't give a shit about them
good take bro you have to be able to sustain yourself um but i know you got the infinite
uh eath tree so you know we'll be coming up to Canada whenever the
we'll come up there and come visit
you and you know let you take
us out to eat and give us some of that ETH
I'm trying to get some of them seedlings
I'm trying to get some of them seedlings from
TMA so that I can plant my own ETH trees
mind at all come through i'll make sure you're
stoned as fuck by the time you leave yeah ah what's up bro bro he said it was 30 below 30
degrees i can't even say that i'm not going anywhere i'm not even going anywhere where
it's any below anything bro if it isn't at least cool outside, I'm staying home. Bro, he's talking Celsius.
It's like fucking 29 degrees up there.
Oh, I thought he was talking Fahrenheit.
I thought you were talking Fahrenheit, bro.
What are you doing here, TMA?
These Canadians, they're weird.
It's literally only you guys that use Fahrenheit
He made it sound so dramatic
I'm thinking nothing can exist in 30 below
I've been to the northern
To the Arctic Circle and stuff like that
Where you literally If you get even a breath outside the water in your eyes freezes and so
does your breath and everything else like it hurts you know what i'm saying so when he said
negative 30 i was like damn i don't wish that on bro i got enemy i got friends in canada listen
i'm brown i'm brown i wasn't built for this okay biologically speaking i wasn't built for this so you all
shut up all right guys enough enough with the weather i know right my jpegs don't even exist
in 30 below go ahead yeah let's uh let's switch let's talk about let's thought something since
spencer is not showing up today so what do we think of Moonbirds finally announcing?
That TGA for BIRB is coming and
What's the what what is it trading at pre-market?
Yeah, so no, the pre-market on Maxxi is trading below 200 million, but the volume is ridiculous.
I think it's like a couple of thousands of dollars, so it's not reliable.
The floor price was trading 2.7, 2.8 and now deeper to 1.7 last time I checked.
If somebody can check right now real quick.
But the tokenomics hasn't been announced yet.
So we still have some time.
Do we feel burbish or not?
I don't know i'm i'm always like skeptical about
buying nfts right before token launches because i feel like a lot of times we have this habit of
heavily inflating values and like you know making up stuff i feel like 2.9 2.8 was a little bit on
the higher end of things but now like pre-market isn't performing as well as they thought it would
be right and that speculation is kind of wearing off so i i feel like they'll obviously dump post
launch but i don't know if they're gonna open at 200 mil right like i'm like that's probably on
the bear side i don't know down 15 at 1.75 this morning.
It was 2.5 just 24 hours ago or so.
We've seen it 2x here in the past month and stuff like that.
Over the holiday and stuff, we saw it dip low into the ones.
I think 1.3, 1.4, somewhere around there.
And then immediately somebody came and swept and left the floor price and stuff. But I was surprised to see it run all the way up to 2.8 again
and then right now be at 1.75,
especially within the past 48 hours or so.
Can anyone explain what they're using it for?
Because that's the one thing I still haven't quite understood
what the BIRB token's for.
It's a culture token. What's the use case for any token? Well, I mean, I don't... Yeah it it's a culture token well i mean it's a culture token okay it's
a culture token just like penguins for example right we use a coin on the other side you know
so we know what that token's for yeah my point exactly i don't know i just yeah but but i thought
he said this is not a meme it's an an IP coin. I thought Spencer said that.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's a culture coin, which is basically what Pengu is, right?
Like culture coin or IP coin.
So it's the same use case.
It's like, while there is no use case, you got doodles token is down.
I think I seen a tweet earlier today and it was like,
the only brand that has figured out distribution beyond web three is Luca and pudgy penguins.
And you guys right behind that with other side, I think they're going to break in, you know,
the next few years, but like Luca nets has been the only brand in the space that has solved,
not even solved distribution. He's, he's gaining momentum with it because you see congressmen.
I mean, the one congressman
used the penguin gif or the meme
and put him in there instead of Trump
Like, bro, that's massive.
Even though it's not about pengu,
but it still doesn't matter.
and top of the mind share.
Exactly. He's been really and top of the mind share. Exactly.
He's been really good at capturing global mind share with the Giphy's and relating with the emotes and stuff like that with people using Giphy across the world.
Everybody knows Pudgy Penguin now because of emotional intelligence and Giphy.
But also staying top of the mind share by them lobbying, actually them lobbying actually being out at nasdaq you know
what i'm saying having the the pingu as part of the etf uh conversation and stuff like that from
the chicago stock exchange uh saying that they were going to launch the etf so like we're kind
of like in this limbo right now waiting but i think that igloo and and pudgy has been really
good luke has been really great at being top of the mindshare and interjecting themselves in every
single financial conversation and institution out there.
As far as like all the VCs and all that getting big penguins at their offices
and stuff, and then showing it off on social medias and stuff like that.
Like the penguin is everywhere.
And I think we're watching proliferation on a different level.
But, but, but my point is,
is that it seems like when I sit here and watch Spencer,
and Spencer's a very smart guy.
I would never want to be a founder
trying to mimic every single move
And now there's going to be...
Pudgy, and there's going to be one for Vibes, and he's the TCG game for Pudgy.
And there's going to be one for Vibes.
And he's going to do one for Moonbirds.
And I think there's going to be cross-collaboration with other brands,
maybe some other TCG games. But it's like, that's fine if you follow who I think is probably
the most well-known person in the space,
besides like Gary Vee or someone like that.
It's fine if you follow him,
but you've got to distinguish your brand away from what Luca has built.
And I don't know if Spencer's done that enough,
and to see him launch a token so fast
and go from zero to a thousand so quick,
I think the 24-hour stream had a lot to do with,
I think people were expecting a little bit more because it seems like after
that 24 hour stream and him announcing the date of the token,
I think like the fifth announcement of the fucking token.
And I understand market conditions and all that stuff,
but it's like until people see the
numbers we're not going to be able to get to a price and azuki ran up to what was it like it was
like 13 eth and then once the numbers were out and people were able to do the math that it quickly
came down and settled to where the valuation you know sentiment was of where the token was going to
be so if you're not shorting this then
i don't know what you're doing i think it's going to be a massive play to short and people are going
to you know unless they come out of the gate with something that nobody's expecting
well so i think you made a good point where he had to rush things. And when you rush things, it's very hard to create community, to create culture.
Like they're trying to force a culture right now.
But is it really working?
Especially you have a lot of assets.
So, yes, a lot of people are writing moonbirds.
moonbirds they're speculating on moonbirds but yeah i think i feel spencer is uh is a great
They're speculating on moonbirds.
probably the best founder that moonbirds could ever find it just probably rushed a little bit
but they still have support from solana they're still doing things very well so
personally i think the pre-market and this dump is a little bit too much a little premature
yeah a little bit well i mean you have you have 26 000 nfts that have to have allocation of token
okay two of them are relatively around the same price 26 000 nfts plus the whole nesting and all the state that you have years of people
holding these nfts that are now expecting some return of value the soulbound tokens as well
yeah yeah yeah and i think wives is going to get an allocation too probably yeah well he's obviously
going for the whole pengu mass distribution of token and trying to reward as many people.
We're seeing speculation that you have to have three or more
soulbound tokens to even get rewarded.
So, I mean, but at these prices, I mean, I think it's a buy
because I do think they run back up, you know,
and then dump, like Timo said.
There you go, and then dump, like Timo said. There you go.
And kind of, hey, how's it going?
GM, what's everybody doing?
So I have kind of a off, offbeat.
It's off topic, but kind of on off off beat god never what the fuck it's horrible bro uh it's off topic but kind of on topic here you guys brought up the whole like politicians rocking pangu and so i'm curious if
anybody has a view or a take on this but is there a concern that there can be like an anti-culture
here where when i grew up i never really looked at politicians and went, hey, this is culture. This is the thing that I want to mimic or be.
I know Pudgy's obviously done plenty of things to be part of culture and music and streamers
and the things that we do see now.
But does anyone have a concern or does anyone look at this and go, hmm, this might be something
in the future where kids who are growing up, where they want to be a Sanrio, some kids
may be like, oh, that's that political bird I knew about growing up.
And it kind of makes them not fall in love the same way we fell in love with, like, Pokemon or something like that.
Like, I'm being serious, though, because this is, like, there is kind of a strange alignment here between the two.
I mean, this politician, they're posting on Twitter. You don't have your kids watching Twitter.
So, kids are getting reached by Pangu on different mediums, right?
So, I think it's, we are targeting a different kind of audience,
whether it can help Pangu and the incoming ETF,
whether it can help these assets, like our NFTs,
which are very, very expensive.
So definitely kids are not buying that.
Not even normies are buying that. So we need to get people with money buying those things.
But there is a lot of fun, I have to say, within the Penguin community.
I mean, the usual question, how does it benefit others? Why are all these people, all these brands are using a custom Pudgy Penguin?
Why they are not buying the NFTs?
There are people that don't really see this as an opportunity.
I think there's opportunity.
I'm just curious in the culture.
I mean, like, that's all.
I see what you're saying, too, is there's a lot of kids who are never going to see this, too, which is more than fair to split.
I think the more people that are that are this is all part of the distribution.
Like, you know, we're seeing the Clarity Act going to be coming soon.
Give us the fucking Clarity Act already.
I'm sorry. Just give it to us already.
But that's part of the distribution
so many brands. You have NFL teams
that have pudgies in their
Bro, being able to be in hockey games and like,
it's the shit, my daughter's 12 years old.
Her whole friend group shares nothing but bearish
and pudgy gifts and memes.
Like they, every morning they're sending,
I love you pudgies to their little girlfriend friend group.
You know, so it's, it's, yeah, it's,
Luke has done his job and i think down the
road that value loki will go back to holders because it's like you're going to be walking
down the street and you're going to see kids with pudgy backpacks and pudgy lunch boxes and
holding pudgy dolls and you're at the carnival kids are throwing balloons to try and win a pudgy
stuffed animal and hopefully other nfts can build
on that and in you know all these ip start making it out there these court kids that poppy and them
have done like i think has brought an energy back to to quirkies that could not have been replicated
with any other thing that that pop Poppy and the team would have done.
I don't see even the streetwear stuff.
I have a whole box of streetwear shit over here that I'm talking about the quality of the gear that was sent to me.
It is. I still haven't got a, I need to get a fucking beanie because they were sold out of that and the skateboard.
I need to get a fucking beanie because they were sold out of that and the skateboard.
But I'm just telling you, like for them to be able to, those court kids, I could see these be in everywhere on every store in the, in the entire world because they're cute.
They're adorable. And you know, so it's brands like that, that are willing to take the risk, no matter what somebody's like, what the hell is this shit?
Brands like that that are willing to take the risk,
no matter what somebody's like, what the hell is this shit?
No, it's taking the risk and going outside of the box.
And that's my point back to Moonbirds.
Spencer hasn't gone out of the box.
Everybody's doing, you can do a TCG game
is probably one of the easiest things.
Like to me, TCG games are almost on the same level
It's like, oh, we have a token, let's stake it.
It's like, oh, we have an IEP,'s stake it. It's like, oh, we have an IP. Let's get
a TCG game. Fucking woohoo.
Like, not everybody wants to do TCG
games, and some do. That's great. It's
fantastic. You know, Gary V makes
a lot of money with his fucking cards.
But, you gotta go, we gotta
think bigger than this shit, and it's like
nobody's willing to do it, or they're too
scared to do it. That's why I applaud
Poppy for doing what he did with Quark Kids.
I sent all my girlfriends cute little fuzzy gifts too.
Let's forget this take on TCG and go to Luna.
That's not why it came up.
But, I mean, I've been playing Magic the Gathering forever.
And I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of vibes because I don't like the mechanics.
But I think willing to take the risk if you're actually going to go in and really try and explore the player base is...
It's worth it if you believe in the product.
What was I going to say also about i'm on this tcg
sorry loki you told me you said no tcgs now i'm talking about tcgs because i spent like
20 years of my life playing cards um i'm not surprised so before i go into my main take
i blame cheese it i blame cheezus it's all his fault um i'm not surprised that as Spencer, being the person who started, like,
really kind of developed Vibes, went set one big Pudgies, set two little Pudgies, is doing set three
Moonbirds, like, that really doesn't make me, like, I'm not surprised by this. And, you know,
if you see, like, set four Mythics, it's just going down the you know rabbit hole
of these are IPs I have access
how I'm going to expand the game
and utilize all the IPs I have
so there's that I think like
about about Moonbirds right now
and I think it's interesting that they decided, like,
a few months after OCAP bought Moonbirds,
which is, like, one of those old projects,
which kind of did something.
Then they did something that, like, made a lot of their holders mad.
And then they were under the Yugo umbrella for a bit.
And then OCAP bought them.
And they're like, hey, maybe
we're going to do a token.
And that kind of got people talking about it again.
There's a lot of things coalescing on the
macro side right now, which
might end up working for this being
good timing to drop a token
hand they've played themselves into.
I think, unfortunately, that Nexi dropping any kind of thing now, without comics, without
being active on the world's market, didn't really help me out much. And I'm surprised that there's
If you're taking profits,
I've definitely taken profits
That's fine. That's healthy.
If you want to take profits
you have other things you want to do in Web3 or outside of Web3, like, that's perfectly fine and no one should ever, like, feel bad or be made to feel bad about that.
I do think that it is interesting, though.
Like, there's just a lot of weird FUD and maybe it's just because the last couple of, like, big launches haven't gone the way people had wanted them to or had hoped they would.
There's a lot of misinformation when Izuki dropped anime that there was actually a snapshot taken,
and that caused a bit of a sell-off pre-TGE.
Yeah, it was kind of wild.
I mean, I will say that I ate pretty big off that TGE,
just waited and held and had a low enough cost basis where it made sense.
Doodles, they definitely did not do everything they could have or should have done.
They had a very interesting strategy where they wanted to incentivize people to hold on
to their token longer by not
and trying to incentivize people
to provide that liquidity.
That was their big incentive
to try and get people not to sell
while they tried to develop
a use case for the token.
Unfortunately for them, that didn't pan out and it fell flat.
It seems like the only kind of token that's still floating around
that has anything to do and has a decent price or a market cap
for the reasons nauseam before I raised my hand is to, and it makes sense
there are also current incentives
if you hold over certain thresholds
of Pengu, you get more abstract XP.
into the abstract ecosystem, and you
think that abstract or pengu holdings
or the experience level or other assets will be worth financial gain later,
then there's an incentive to keep buying and holding that pengu.
With respect to Moonbirds, I think that, one, as I said, they already decided
that they're going to release Token.
They've made the moves. They're at
breakpoint. I'm sure there have been plenty of
deals already orchestrated.
Only Spencer and a handful
of people actually know how
there will be a long-term use
will always be to be determined.
But I also am of the opinion that if you want to do like a quote IP
or a culture token and all it does is like give money to your holders,
I don't think that's, personally, I don't think that's,
personally, I don't think that's bad utility.
And I think we'll see things pick up a little bit when tokenomics are dropped
as we actually approach Wednesday.
All the chatter that we've seen
is that it's going to be really busy.
And we're starting to see that now.
I think like, and the last thing I'll say
I swear to God, bro, just
with respect to, like, his involvement,
either directly or indirectly,
with, like, the Pengu token and OCAP.
So, like, there's no point in going out on, like,
a stream that you're having with, like, your Korean community
and, like, say, we're going to make this one of the biggest launches
if you're not actually going to try and make it one of the biggest launches,
you don't need to put yourself out there if you don't have to.
NFT projects succeeding are awesome.
And I like the Gary Vee tweet where he wants everyone to win
because if everyone wins, then we all win.
And still bullish on NFTs.
Oh, that was beautiful. That's what we need is 2026.
Yeah, good record of tokens.
In Insight, actually, now that you remind us, the Yadzuki token,
Anime was really, really successful.
Like, he opened 1 billion FTV, right?
I mean, by checking right now the tokens, how much they're trading.
So it was really, really successful. But I think we are past the days of asking for utility use case for tokens.
I also listened to Spencer. I think it was on the Chinsanity podcast.
The use case is proliferating the brand. The use case is getting this token, getting the name on
the exchange, reaching crypto users everywhere on different platforms that normally you couldn't if you just have NFTs, if you
And that's also one thing we cannot do with strategy tokens.
So that would be really interesting to see how it will evolve for brands.
Because as older, yes, probably we prefer the strategy token, as today we're seeing the collection are outperforming.
But in the long term, we are still not sure which one will work better for IP proliferation.
And talking about, since we mentioned DUDE, we have Austin.
No, I don't want to say bullshit. Austin, the guy who No, I don't want to say bullshit
You're doing a great, great job with Nuko
Oh, actually, question Let me spit it out what kind of stage? GM, good to be here.
Sorry, let me, let me, let me speed up.
You guys produced that video in five days early.
It's like three minutes video.
I think it was episode two, second episode.
Yeah, about five days of work.
And all in, I think the total cost was like $100.
So you compare that to a traditional animation studio,
that video would easily run tens of thousands. You're usually paying like $20,000 a minute.
So yeah, we're excited. appreciate you taking a look at it
yeah of course of course i think it's really i mean you guys i read some of your article
everything everything is changing everything is changing under your uh under our eyes so for
is changing under your under our eyes so for for IPs you guys are showing how you
can do and produce faster yeah just fully changes the economics of
everything right like it used to be you had to go raise a bunch of money the
ways in which you would even monetize the content look completely different
you know go chase after a TV show go do a bunch of merch and brand partnerships money uh the ways in which you would even monetize the content look completely different
you know go chase after a tv show go do a bunch of merch and brand partnerships
to try to make the the numbers work or have to achieve significant scale on like youtube to
drive ad revenue but when your cost basis is that low and you're able to make reactive content, you know, we're able to change the type of monetization model and how we,
how we're able to like interact with the community and in a much more like
So we've got a lot cooking on,
So I'm happy to talk about it because I saw Luna.
So yeah, happy, happy to talk about it because I saw Luna. Dude, dude. So, yeah, happy to chat about that.
Also, obviously wishing Spencer the best of luck.
I've known him since before he raised his first fund.
He's one of the sharpest people in the space.
He's also one of the most well-connected.
I think everyone knows at this point he was one of the top whales back in the blur ecosystem.
So to whoever said, I think it was also Luna,
that like he does not need to put his reputation on the line in that way,
unless he feels very confident.
I would also agree with that sentiment.
And I disagree with the sentiment about like TCGs.
He was one of the first people doing it in our space.
He is like the maximum comic nerd if
you ever go to his office he literally has like line sheets of like first generation like magic
gathering cards and pokemon cards like this is not like a thing he did because he thought it was
like cool and in vogue it's like very very much core to who he is as a as a person and the brand
that they're trying to build so i
wish them the best of luck i think they're doing a great job um and then on the do side there's a
bunch of stuff we could get into there it was definitely not uh hey we'll add additional
liquidity on the deck side we just had incentives for people who wanted to add liquidity. There was plenty of liquidity on DEXs and
centralized exchanges. There's a whole host of reasons why it did not perform, I would say,
to my expectations, one of which is that we literally gave out more tokens than we were
supposed to for a set number of the community where there was a bug on the
distribution uh that was handled by our engineering team so uh that i talked about that at length when
it happened that certainly added some additional cell pressure and then just the nature of like
the meta of and this is what i'm interested to see how spencer handles and we took a very
different approach the meta of nft launching tokens, because you have these people who have tremendous
bags that they've been holding for years and you're looking to give them some sort of monetary
exit, you have to introduce so much sell pressure on day one at TGE where there's not really
There's not really a good sync for it.
And so you have everyone just dump it.
And so you have everyone just dump it.
Like if you look at the day one and the day 30 charts of every single IP token that I've seen, they've just gone down 80% from their TGE open.
There's no way that you can get enough consumptive demand.
What you're basically saying is that like you need to get enough consumptive demand outside of your existing ecosystem that is willing to buy additional tokens into the market, which is why you want
such distribution across exchanges and people who may have heard of your brand. And so I think it
will be really challenging given the SBT strategy. I'm interested to see if people continue to hold post-launch. I think a shiny
example of where it did work really well, and it was a little bit of a surprise to me, is the
Seeker phone and Seeker launching as a token, where they're able to get something like 70%
of their token staked. And so native staking, if you can do it, is really powerful uh i don't know out of as a meme coin like what
their position will be on doing that but that's my general take across like 10 different topics
i'll stop talking awesome i think loco went to sleep right there yeah t-mock go ahead bro can i
ask you a question and i don't even know if you can I'm just kidding man let me say this before you go
no that was a great take bro
great take a little long winded but great takes
like was there a reason why
like dude wasn't connected to
all the whole digital collectible ecosystem that you guys had going on, Doodle Studios, etc.?
I feel like that would have been a great way of using the token.
Just creating that token sync of either minting new collectibles using Dude or like just like limited edition drops with for
example mcdonald's or or like arizona or whoever you guys are partnering with like i just feel like
like doodles out of all the other brands had this opportunity to just really like double down on the
ip token and really use that because like it had that community that really loves bt's art and
like would have collected it regardless of the price point right like so there were multiple of
those drops where like you know there were six figures collected and like for me it almost made
natural sense to think like you know like there'll eventually be a point where dude is used to like
mint some of these digital collectibles there'll be like a unique maybe dude is used to like mint some of these digital collectibles. There'll be like a unique,
maybe a 5,000 piece drop that's like just with McDonald's and that's a
And maybe people who've been exposed through the McDonald partnership are
going to be like buying some of these, right?
Like that's how you really onboard like those masses,
those web two audiences. So like,
is that something that the
team ever thought about like you know it's something like i don't know why that never
like even occurred right yeah yeah i mean how much time you got um if if i had my way you know
and there were a lot of internal reasons as to why this didn't happen like one the token would
have come out in december not in like may or whenever april whenever it did uh like immediately following
mcdonald's when you had the most amount of heat that's ever been on a brand outside of like i
think when pudgy went to walmart it was like one and two there um two in terms of like driving
consumptive demand into products that was very very much an effort internally that we were trying to push.
If you remember at the time, the entire Doodles ecosystem was EVM.
And so it was a bit of a struggle to get the resources
to then have everything on Solana, purchasable in Solana,
all tokens moving forward
and then yeah the secondary collection was something we had talked about even when i was
back there and the idea of pricing it in dude uh was something that was like really really important
um and having it be like an evolutionary type thing that people are collecting and
and doubling down on like the brand partnership so there's a lot there um
obviously like i and i feel like awesome that's where i got really confused right like one of the
biggest like pivotal moments for me to like like i love doodles like i've just like that's one brand
i've just naturally always been fucking hooked to and like you know i i just fucking love it it's
it's quite honestly one of my favorite brands in the space always will be but like you know i i just fucking love it it's it's quite honestly one of my favorite brands
in the space always will be but like you guys were building with base right you guys were coming out
with dreamnet at that point in time right like so all natural sense pointed to the fact that
this entire ecosystem that you're going to create will be a partnership with base in some sort of a way the token could have lived on evm
like like that sudden switch to completely go off wrap and go to soul instead like what what
brought that about yeah so that that's one i can fully own and it's one that we did not take lightly
having spent a lot of time within the base ecosystem i was the one that drove
our migration from flow to base um and then working basically for better part of a year
talking to both solana and base and looking more at you know what sort of ecosystems were going to
be supportive of a token and like what would the fdvs look like what are the daily volumes looking
like what does the exchange listing process look
like on either token? And if you look at like base tokens back then versus Solana, there's a very
clear picture that was painted, which is at 90 plus percent of the meme coin volume, which we
were launching it as a memetic token, even though that it was going to try to have tie-ins into
DreamNet and all these things, is all happening on Solana.
And so we felt that we would be ultimately mismatched in terms of driving a token into
the base ecosystem where we didn't feel that there was the demand to support it, even if
narratively it could have made more sense.
And now you have an opportunity where the bridges have gotten so much better.
It's easy enough to spin up liquidity on whatever chain you want to. But that was a big, that was a big part that
went into it. And it wasn't like, we went back and forth a lot on it. But ultimately, it was like,
in order for this token to be successful, we need to be able to drive consumptive demand in all of
that behavior. You got to gotta remember this was like right
after trump and melania and everything like all of it was happening on solana um and so you could
narratively have a good token but like there wasn't really anything going on over there um
in terms of like the daily volumes that gave us confidence that it could perform
i mean that makes sense but like part of me just keeps thinking about like gave us confidence that it could perform.
I mean, that makes sense, but like part of me just keeps thinking about like that wrecked model, right?
Like with, with partnerships with doodles could have been similar.
I understand why Solana had the attention at that point in time, but when you, when
you kind of create that token ecosystem and like token sinks around it especially when you have that core
community that's so diehard and they love the brand they they love the art they resonate with
it people people collected like i remember doodles was trading at 7 8 if i'm not wrong
like around the time that tge was happening right like so at that point in time if that base
connection would have come in and and
add that to the entire digital collectible situation and and you do like partnership
stuff like direct drinks did where you're you're doing limited edition drops and using using your
token as a token sync like i don't know it just it felt like it was just right there and it wasn't taken, right, kind of a situation.
Like, it just made natural sense to so many people.
And a lot of them were mostly confused about the fact that, you know, why Seoul?
Because I think that was the biggest, like, turn.
Like, everyone was just surprised by the fact that Seoul was the decision to go with.
But I understand your point, not to, like, prolong things.
No, and I get, no, no, no, it's all good.
And I get yours, and I would definitely echo,
like, I'm a huge fan of what OSF is building with REC.
They haven't, it's not syncs that they're building,
it's certainly faucets, right?
Like, all these partnerships are introducing
additional token supply, but it's a really, really smart way of growing distribution. It's actually something
we've talked about at our new company of just like, how do you find additional ways that are
not going to drive significant cell pressure? Even looking at like what they're doing with
this giant Eagle pilot program and getting people to drive and buy their physical products, which then have an impact on the model.
But, you know, it's going to be one of the greatest what-ifs.
I feel pretty comfortable with the chain selection.
I do not think that's why the token performed the way that it did.
I think there were a host of other things
like led to its performance and like where they kind of are now as a company but obviously i i
want dual succeed i wish them well i have i still have like my uh my pickle and my coffee head and
everything and so they're one of the best brands in the space and bt is like one of the most kind
humans that we've got. So, yeah.
And that's one reason why the Sunday NFT show was spun up.
That's where it was born out of the need for this conversation right here, for the things that need to be said out loud or the things that could be and things to be talked through.
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for the updates on when the next space will be uh following turn notices on um austin's hand came
back up so we're gonna go to austin then we go to Mouha And then we go to Luna after that
Just one more thing on this
And then I'll take a step back
One of the things, I think you guys see it
Both of the ecosystem teams
And then the communities around them
could not be more different and i think that was also like a very very big reason why we chose
solana like they and it's also why we chose to build our next company on solana um is that they
are like true extensions of our team like pedro miranda is like one of the best people at his job.
Vibhu is doing incredible on socials,
but like they are actively like looking for opportunities
to help you grow your business.
And I think Base is trying to get there,
but they went in like a very different direction.
And it's still part of the like Coinbase conglomerate.
And so it is a little bit slower in how they operate.
There's a lot more hoops to go through.
There's a lot less that they're willing to do in terms of support.
I have great relationships on that team.
they're doing the best job that they can,
but that was also like a huge consideration.
Like I've never worked with a team throughout my entire professional
career like Solana, who just like goes above and beyond at every step to try to make you successful.
Well, it makes sense. And you know, that's the joy of the space that if you got convictions,
you double down on those. If it tracks for you, it works for you. And that's why so many blockchains
because there's enough out here for everybody. And then we just do the best that we can going forward we're gonna go uh maha and luna um and then uh i saw jeremy step on stage
with a new pfp look like a disco ball or something but uh maha and luna and then we go to jeremy
all right sorry austin i know you said you wanted to step back but i got a question so i got you
obviously the ai model that is at doodles is crazy. Like, arguably one
of the best things we've seen. It's kind of even hard to distinguish between him and Bernd at times.
So we've seen this before with like Cool Cats. And I think that this is kind of the future is
each of these brands having their own model, because if not, you're just not gonna be able
to keep up with pace of content and everything. So is there a future where Nuko offers that as
a service to other people, or is this going
to stay internal to Nuko for content creation for community?
Yeah, great question, and one that we spent a lot of time focusing on.
We have built, basically, to take a step back, the entire reason that we built Nuko as a
company is that we saw a lot of lessons while we were at doodles around like the writing being on the wall of, of content creation and storytelling and like
how these content costs were going to go to zero and really the, the content creation pipeline,
like we're not looking to compete with the like runways of the world and like the stable diffusions,
you know, mid journeys, et cetera. What we're looking to be is more of that like translation layer into how do you drive
community engagement retention and really like continue to fulfill that cycle.
And so we really launched G-Boy as a means of being that kind of like pilot program,
like being that proof point.
And so in order for it to be a successful proof
point like we need to make it one of the biggest ips in the space and that's what we're focused on
as a like downstream first order impact of that we will then be exploring okay well how do we help
other ips do the same thing like how do we give them the tools that we're using um how do we
ensure that they can incentivize their community in the right way?
So that's very much a focus.
We've had a decent amount of inbound already, but we're trying to be really careful about
We only have five people.
We're a really small team.
We didn't raise a bunch of money.
We're trying to keep our burn really low and make sure that we can do this sustainably.
it but you know we ultimately are building an operating system that other creators and ips and
communities will will be able to participate in and setting it up can i hit you with a thought
can i hit it with a follow-up then because this may be too much alpha if you don't want to disclose
but would gboy be then the credit system for other companies to spend? Would that be your pool or your burn for the coin?
For other companies, I don't know.
Because I think part of what will make an operating system like that work,
and we're doing a lot of work on the platform right now,
have like a pretty big update coming,
is you'd want like your own native token, right?
Like that would be, presumably, if they're building in like a crypto native way,
they would want their own token and credit system, et cetera. So we're, we're thinking
through that. I think we're primarily focused on like additional ways that we can drive value to
G-Boy within our own ecosystem. And then just thinking about like the operating system and
platform overall and like what the needs would be of that good stuff man good stuff
and uh planning it out definitely makes sense hopefully it uh hopefully it works through i
wish you well on it uh i think uh luna's hand was up and then we'll go over to jeremy after that
appreciate it yeah i'll keep it short because definitely like already yapped for a bit and don't want to.
But I want to say everything over at G-Boy is cool.
I still have a couple of my dudes, even though I definitely got bodied a little bit by the token, but still love the art.
Just want to say, hope everything's well.
G-Boy looks cool and definitely like
no shade was intended by any of that hope you have an awesome rest of your weekend man
no shade taken and like these are the exact conversations i wish we would have more
out in the open so you know thank you for bringing up your perspective
there you go and uh without further ado the guy that needs no introduction if you don't know him
you don't know web three jeremy nice to see you bro look like you got a new uh a new pfp on there
looks like you getting getting ready to do it like a funky dance with uh with the guys at
exactly that is a a a one-off grail right And, Jeremy, how long has it been since you actually changed that PFP? That Rhino is really what you're known for.
It's been exactly since my my last birthday in April. Man, proof, I'm just going to keep coming back to this space because you're like my number one glazer. Like if I come back here, I know I can get a great intro.
Yeah, you know, I like to be playful with the PFP,
but we did a little, spun up a group chat for Iconics,
which is the collection this is from.
And so I was like, well, if Iconics are the flavor, I got to rock it.
Yeah, thanks for inviting me up Machiavelli
I wish I had something more productive
I just wanted to say you know
and I think it's impressive
these things can get a little
weighted and difficult to discuss
but he's 100% right. The more these conversations
happen in public and between teams and collectors and speculators and liquidity providers, the more
these conversations happen in public, I think the faster we can go farther. So it was nice to
listen to that. I learned a lot, actually. Tell us a little bit about Rare Robot coming out this week.
Come on, drop us a little something.
Yeah, I appreciate you mentioning it earlier.
It's very straightforward.
We're ramping up our comic program.
We're going to be doing two comics a month in 2026,
except for this month, which is just Rare Robot.
I guess a couple of exciting things on this issue are well it's a
full-length comic right so you get more depth of story rare robot has been it's the only robot is
the only mechanical thing in the collection so that makes it unique and it also um it also
establishes a completely different aspect of the timeline. So this is comic number 10.
And so far we've had most comics in like present day, 2020 to 2026.
And we have some that go back to the 80s with one that is actually in like 600 AD.
But this rare robot comic is actually, I want to say it's 3 000 years in the future 555 years
i thought that you're probably right you're probably right um i i've only read it once so
i apologize um but but yeah 555 makes sense but regardless like it's exciting for me to start to
see like kind of the world of the canon and and. Because, like, DJ, who really is the keeper of the canon, if you will, like, he has his whole mural board with the timeline and how some Easter eggs hint to a story that he wants to write back in the 60s.
And, like, it's all this, like, you know that meme from, like, where Charlie's, like, got the whole board behind him and he's, like, piecing it together.
Like, that's what I imagine those like comic off sites are like so um so yeah it's a very different story um i think it's going to be a good good intro for him and i and i love that
you're i love that you're a robot uh advocate now because it's uh it's a it's a tight-knit group of robot collectors yeah man i've got to
meet a few of them and i you know listen i'm i'm grateful to be a rare robot um i you know it took
me a long time to to settle in to what my v friend was going to be what i was going to stand
behind and i'm i'm glad that i chose that one you know what i'm saying after it in the dms with
gary and everybody else with Tim and stuff like,
it's nice to join a group of collectors who are like-minded and,
helping to push the space forward.
special shout out to all the VFriends community and stuff like that.
Everybody's been very welcoming and stuff like that.
So glad and happy to be a part of it.
Jeremy, I tell that to everybody.
It's like, yo, we want to get to that end goal.
We want to get to the high floor price, to all of these situations happening, manifesting right in front of us. But we can't forget that we have to go day by day, moment by moment, time for time, space for space.
So thank you all for being here with us.
Thank you again, Jeremy, for coming up and sharing that with us about rare robot back over to you proof
Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Oh, sorry. No, no, no go ahead. Jump on in there jumping it
No, I mean it's been it's been two hours
Amazing guys everybody showing him here. I think
we are really demonstrating we are still here and we are going to go back strong.
We can close with two more topics real quick. We haven't touched yet. I think we haven't talked about Zagabon. Zagabon on the runway. That was awesome. Man, I would never expect to see him.
And especially the cool thing, maybe if you. So you're talking about the jacket?
Yeah. So the outfit is wearing the jacket is from an actual NFT that then was also
that then was also printed on a car so on the Atsuki TCG and then became real as a fashion collection that's incredible
yeah yeah I was shocked I was shocked to see him and listen man Homeboy looked dapper like he was in his element too walking down that runway like you know what I'm saying it's like yo he
made this collection just to hit that runway
leave a Zouki and start a new career I think
we might see it happen what if in 2026
zagabon is like yo i'm done with the zuki i'm gonna be in paris amazing people will take it
lightly yeah yes sir and well oh man where is anon so we haven't we haven't oh yeah you you
mentioned he's in node right now he's probably in the crypto punks brunch right now i'd seen Oh, man, where is Anon? So we haven't, yeah, you mentioned Palo Alto.
He's probably in the CryptoPunks brunch right now.
I'd seen Sergito down below and stuff like that,
but I know that they are gathered around, you know,
and they're feasting right now.
All the punks are in Palo Alto enjoying their brunch at this moment.
That's, I mean, you guys guys if you haven't watched the video go
I think the best video was possible by open C
So scroll a little bit. I think it's the latest possible
They part today, so it's really amazing. We have now that
That attraction that would be forever there, right?
Yeah, no the no Foundation has opened its doors.
And they are the ones who picked up the CryptoPunks from Yuga.
And this is their permanent digital museum and installation there in Palo Alto, right across from Stanford University.
So we can expect that place to live on for the rest of our days, from my understanding.
that place to live on for the rest of our days, from my understanding.
Yeah, that's, I mean, here we usually touch on collectibles on our February IPs.
It's a little bit different than CryptoPunks or our collector.
I mean, NFTs are collector.
But in the end, we have, we share the same passion.
Sometimes we share the same collector, same audience.
We cross-pollinate each other.
So obviously, he will help.
What he did to help was Anon all week.
Taliaz, the Nakamigos, are going to do great things at Palo Alto.
Right there, too, on Thursday, he made a post.
He said, what if Nakamigos have nothing to do with what's going on at the Node Foundation?
And I was like, exactly, bro.
Like, that's, like, we're going to get nothing.
And then next week, he's going to be like, oh, y'all see that post I put out on Thursday, right?
Man, I told y'all, what if they have nothing to do?
But listen, who knows what might happen today?
We might get an announcement at the press conference later that people's like, yo, shout out to the V0 punks in the building.
You know what I'm saying?
We just want to confirm right now.
And then Aynon is going crazy,
right? He'll be back in here strutting and dunking
on us. Hey, man, you get a dunk. You get
Gotta love it. I saw somebody come up
to the stage. Who was that?
Dan? Who was that? Oh, Jemos.
I seen Dan. I seen D-Webs.
I seen Jemos. Yo, yo, what's up?
Thanks for following me up, guys.
You guys shouted out D-Friends before.
Just know, I heard someone picked up that series too,
so you can actually get that comic book on the 27th a day early on a discount.
So that's the offer with D-Friends.
Sounds good, sounds good.
Yeah, just chilling in, man vibing love this space um and uh i don't know man nfts have been fun i don't know if anyone knows my pfp but that's medieval's uh so it's a collection
on solana and we're just chilling it's been pretty fun for the last three months uh if y'all like
collecting and stuff or anybody wants any info i'm'm just just an avid collector from comic books and cards and anything.
So, NFTs always catch my eye.
But, like, I always fizzle just because, like, things just die or over promises and undelivers.
delivers and uh it's just been a wild ride it's been it's been a fun three months in that discord
And it's just been a wild ride.
It's been a fun three months in that Discord.
and they got some physicals coming out and art seems to be pumping out and it's like uh
well that's what it's all about that's what that's what this that's what this sunday space is all
about is cultivating all of the above bringing them together having the conversations looking
at the hard things looking at low-hanging fruit know, and that's what it's all about. We appreciate you for coming and vibing out with us, bro.
Yeah, no doubt, man. It's awesome in here, you know, the knowledge, the people.
It's been a lot of fun. It's fun to see who you pull up in here.
You know, the space has been tough the last few years, but vibes are back, man. Vibes are back. People seem to be
having fun, so I'm just really
Really rooting for us collectors and
anybody, whatever, man, my DMs are always open.
communities and cross-pollinate.
I think that's where it's all at.
There's no king of the hill here think that's where it's all at. There's no king of the hill here.
That's what it's all about.
Looks like Dan, Kaido, and then D-Webs had their hands up.
Before I go to my friend Dan, Kaido, and D-Webs,
yeah, I forgot to mention that during Palo Alto,
GVC did an incredible move buying the CryptoPunk.
And that CryptoPunk is now a reward for holders.
So if you don't know what I'm talking about, go to scroll the GVC page.
I mean, they already affiliated a lot of collectors in the space.
Probably the one left now they know and they love gvc more
after this move so incredible incredible move guys there is huge yeah that was okay so i gotta
tell you a story now there is this guy just let him on stage it It's been a year. He's trying to hop on.
And you know I don't let shares.
But this guy, for one year, he tried to request.
So I said, okay, today's the day.
I want to know who's behind the panda pump account man welcome
on stage finally welcome on stage we did it loki thank you i'm glad you appreciate the persistence
and you know i want to just give a shout out to everyone give a shout out to you loki to actually
have a dedicated space for nfts you know we're a new collection. I will absolutely respect the stage. I'm not going
to shill. I just have some insights about the actual space, if you will. But for you guys to
host a dedicated NFT space is good for me because I'm so knee deep in the project. I'm trying to
learn the meta of how the space works. No shill, but we have a token and an NFT. So for me,
You know, no shill, but we have a token and an NFT.
So for me, being so in the weeds, I don't get to perhaps look at like zoom out and see what's happening.
So you guys hosting this, I'm learning a lot and listening and taking everything in.
So by osmosis, this is absolutely amazing.
So what I wanted to come up and say, there's an article.
I look at it a couple times a week.
And I wanted to share it with everyone. I'm just going to read it really quick. It says,
the line between the digital world and the real world will fade. How virtual and physical life
slowly merge. Goes on to say, digital objects, I think NFTs, will feel as real as physical ones. People will value virtual items because they carry identity, access, and utility.
And all you have to do is just look around, scroll through this space.
Okay, albeit this is an NFT space, but look at everyone's PFP.
But go to any other space.
And does that idea not representative people tether themselves to that digital identity.
And it might have been proof who said it just now.
Hey, you've had that PFP for so long.
Everyone's tracking like that virtual identity.
The rest of the article says your digital identity will matter as much as your real one.
It creates identity who you are online will affect work trust and opportunities offline so i i tend to just
watch this throughout uh excuse me reread this like maybe once twice a week because it's just
to me like this is a form of a metaverse being on these spaces here um i will say another analog
would be look at something as simple as Fortnite. Kids are
asking their parents for V-Bucks to buy whatever, the banana skin. Hey, does that skin give you
extra attributes or edge in the game? No, I just want it. So the kids, the younger generations
are much more digitally native, and it's only going to increase over time. So our digital avatars via NFTs and what
projects can offer, I think is absolutely the future. Nothing against token-based projects,
but I think NFTs are like that identity. They're that glue. They're that nexus. You actually have,
and who's to say it's digital art versus physical art? Who's to say that digital
We define the value, and there clearly is value here.
So I think we just give it time.
The internet, these online social communities are going to continue to grow, and I think we're going to have a renaissance in these NFTs.
We'll have another phase of it.
Yeah, definitely 100% digital has value because when you talk digital, you think about stocks and bonds.
You know, those are digital, but they have a value assigned to them. Right.
And of course, we create that value. We uphold the value and we give assigned the value. Your IRL flex is almost as important as your digital flex, but in more relevant terms,
your IRL existence is as important as your digital existence.
So I touche and double tap that, man.
You have been persistent.
You've been in the DMs and everything. And I keep saying, hey, bro, you got to go to Loki.
And he got you up to date.
Six months, bro. I just went back and checked. I can't. Six months. He got you up today. I don't know. Six months. Six months, bro.
I just went back and checked.
I mean, that's what we're about with.
Well, I'll just say, I'm glad Loki did allow you up, bro.
And I'm glad you got a chance to contribute to the conversation.
I didn't know that he even came to you because he never DMed.
Oh, my DMs are close, right?
But, yeah, man, I really appreciated you.
I wasn't expecting this take.
Also, please pin the article you mentioned here in the space.
And do you have your own profile?
Because I let founders, team members, collectors on stage, no problem at all.
So it's just like I have a little policy for for projects oh yeah yeah i
have another profile it's just it's it's forza um crypto i don't know if they have an underscore but
um you know regardless if if the policy is that you come up as your yourself as opposed to the
project i could do that next time but But yeah, no, like I definitely
appreciate the way you guys kind of filter. I understand this is a very, it's a serious
oriented space trying to really understand like where everything's going from the NFT side of
things. And I'm glad you guys hold it and I'll be tuning in every week. So appreciate it. Thank you.
Yeah. And don't forget to mention that profile because if you don't, it'll be tuning in every week. Appreciate it. Thank you. Don't forget to mention that profile
because if you don't, it'll be another six months
before you get your ass back up here again.
Metaverse, Avatar, NFTs. I mean, guys, thatverse, avatar, NFT.
I mean, guys, that's the future.
You know, it's funny because when this space started, it was like back last year.
We were like 100 from from 50 to 100
and and loki was like in my d in my dms on on discord and we were like now yeah we got a host
we're gonna vibe we're gonna see where it goes but loki always knew always knew what what the
result would be so shout out to you proof and machiavelli to to make this happen guys
So shout out to you, Proof, and Machiavelli to make this happen, guys.
Every week for more than probably a year.
When is going to be the birthday, brother?
I guess it's soon, right?
Or is it what it has been?
I think it was like a sprint.
But anyway, it's fun because we have been here through the cycles.
We have seen always like NFTs.
And last year, I think, was one of the years that has been more interesting for NFTs.
Because yes, the vibes were down.
Yes, the floor price went down and such.
But I think that we have seen the big, huge players such as CryptoPunks, etc.
like consolidate their power and their position.
And we have seen some of the OGs and blue chips actually re-evaluate all the strategy
and try to kind of like find that alignment
that we talked about, right?
And 2026 seems the year of that.
And because of a few examples that are here on stage as well,
like Austin, I see Will, and obviously I'm biased with Will.
But also Fags and Fana Boz was here as well earlier,
like a lot of good strategies,
for example, Naoko with their community strategy was massive, in my opinion. Yacht really crushed
it on the one-on-one approach and building a community and launching. I think that the times
of like founders doing things just to vibe and just to go on with the technology and the improvement of this technology has done.
And now we see really like literally besides Zagabon going for the runaway, we see a lot of like building, real building.
And I think that we are bullish about it.
And now we have also filtered the collectors.
So I don't know, guys, like I'm very bullish and not just because I'm bullish on NFTs, but because they work.
They are the future. They are what we want and what future generations want.
And I go with the words of Will here. He created Cryptoys because of his daughter.
And the next generation will be fully digitalized and they're going to live in a fully enabled digitalized world.
So, guys, I'm very I'm very happy that these spaces go well.
That's a lot of builders have passed here
And I'm always gonna be supporting this.
And I know that every single one of us here,
from the one listening to the ones on panels,
like really, really are doing something special.
Loki, I'm gonna send you the point for it, for this pitch. I know, props to you. Loki, I'm going to send you the 0.4 ETH for this pitch.
I know that's, that's, that I promised you that.
Yeah, no, he got the point on the wrong side of the number.
Yeah, you got the point on the wrong side of the number.
It's 4 ETH, not 0.4, buddy.
Yo, you should say that to Loki.
Apparently he has like a click, like his keyboard is set on 0.4.
Happy Sunday and have a lovely rest of the space.
What's your PFP, by the way?
Brother, my PFP is Invincibles.
I actually supported them to launch on Solana.
I know floor price may not be very, very fun,
but the collection is a wall pixelate collection, animated.
It's great, in my opinion.
Actually, I'm not even sure if I could tell this, but anyway, whatever.
But besides that, I just put it up because I was looking for something unique,
something that's still NFTs, otherwise Loki would have been. Guys, I tried to tell Loki. Yeah, I just put it up because I was looking for something unique, something that's still NFTs.
Otherwise, Loki would have been.
Guys, I tried to tell Loki, yeah, I'm not sure.
Probably I may go like Web2 PFPA.
I will never talk to you again.
Yeah, well, you know we despise those people.
Hey, D-Webs, let me tell him this.
I'm going to track that birth date.
I'm going to go all the way back to our DMs in the Creators Nexus Discord, Loki,
and I'm going to find that birthday.
And I'm going to tell Dan Kattel when the birthday is.
D-Webs, jump on in there, bro.
I think it was spring last year where the real thing happened in terms of every week.
So I may check that as well in my DMs with Loki.
Yeah, I'll let you know if I find out.
D-Webs, it's on you, boss.
Good morning, good morning.
Well, I guess good afternoon.
I'm sorry I'm so late getting to the space.
We were iced in and snowed in a little bit today.
And before I could kind of hop in,
I wanted to make sure I wasn't like burning electric
when I needed it, you know.
Thank you for having me up i did want to just hop up really fast um because i'm not sure if everybody that's using soul flare or has soul flare on did you dm me that that was you
okay okay bro because i've seen that dm and i was like man dude that's real no so okay so that's what i was
i don't know if it's a shill it's more so everybody just knows there's a free doodle
claim for dude token that's what everybody's been talking about for the last i don't know like hour
that i've been on so if you have soul flare in in your phone or whatever you can go get some free
dude um that is powered by my company,
so I guess that is the show,
but I just want to make sure.
You can still go ahead and claim, yeah.
I don't remember, honestly.
I've been working on like four or five different campaigns
because there's this one,
then there's also one that's going to be coming behind it.
No, no, no, it's more of there's a lot coming and because i'm the
one who does all the contracts i get to see all the numbers and i've seen so many numbers in the
last two days i just i don't remember i'm sorry i'll send you my address for allocation
but what's really cool is just if you guys go and play, you'll see now like projects can go ahead and basically give you tokens directly in your wallets.
So more wallets are going to be added here in the future.
A lot of big ones are going to be coming.
And so, yeah, that was the only big reason I wanted to come up, which really just you guys have been talking about doodles for like the last hour or so.
And I was like, hey, don't know if you all know, but there's literally free money if you have Soulfly on your phone.
And that's the joy of the space, right?
Where you can come in here and not even know it.
You can be talking to a front end developer from Coinbase or I mean a back end.
But this is the melting pot of where this thing happens.
We're all on the forefront of technology.
We are the nerds that we used to look at and say, I wonder who this guy is.
Who is he having lunch with?
But this is what we do here.
And it made a good nucleus of us who are the good people who want to fight the good fight
and keep moving the space forward.
And on Sundays, this is where this happens, this conversation.
Make sure you follow and turn on
your notices for that bird up in the top left corner. Because if you don't, you might be an
hour late next week because sometimes we go at a different time. That's why it's important to
follow him and turn your notices on. Do us a favor before we go. I saw one hand come up and
I'll get to you, but I'm going to dismount here. But if you do us a favor, just go down to the bottom right corner, like and comment, subscribe,
whatever you do, work all the buttons, just work everything and then come back and see us on next
week. I saw Sports DeFi jump up with a hand up. Jump in there, Sports DeFi, before we get out.
Thank you, my brother. I was really just trying to give a shout out to the amazing people that are in the room today.
All the people that are in the room today.
She's been killing the corkies.
Y'all are amazing for holding this.
And I'm just so pumped on what NFTs hold.
I've just been running around collecting, collecting, collecting all these people's collections as much as I can.
Ajis, Gobs, Plague. Thank goodness for everybody who still believes. Thank goodness for the fact that everybody got pushed out. I'm glad.
And I'm really happy where the space has landed because now these spaces and these talks feel so much more progressive and feel like we're really getting somewhere.
And it feels exciting to be a potential founder now.
And before it felt like you might feel like a scammer amongst scammers if you had a real good intention.
And now it feels like you might be a real person, a real founder.
And I'm really excited about where the space is.
So, Loki, thank you for hosting this. Proof, amazing takes. Machiavelli, I follow y'all
consistently. Everything y'all have done has just been amazing. And like I said, thank you to Poppy.
Thank you to Mason. Thank you to Maria. And thank you to all the people who consistently just put
their days in. Plotty, JCS Snacks, like all these people are real hard workers that never have stopped no matter the floor price
of whatever they were holding. And I just think that that's a big deal. That's all I wanted to
say. Thank you. That's what it's all about, bro. We appreciate you for coming up with the flowers.
And we want to make sure that you get your flowers too, just for coming because without you guys in
the audience, there is no us, but just three idiots sitting up here talking to each other,
even though we will do that, it makes it so much more real and so much the human factor when you guys come in and give us takes and show us other things that we don't know or we haven't studied or what have you.
So you could have been anywhere in the world, but you chose to come hang out with us on this Sunday and you snowed in and everything is going on.
All kind of stuff in the world events are happening.
But and you took this one hour, two hours, three, ten hours later to come hang out with us.
We appreciate you for that.
We want to say we love you.
We'll see you on the next one next week.
And we'll see you on the next NFT space.
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