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NFTS VS MEMECOINS FOMOFM
Recorded: July 8, 2025 Duration: 3:24:18Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the dynamic landscape of NFTs and meme coins, emphasizing their potential for growth and the importance of community engagement. As new projects and tokens emerge, the conversation highlighted trends in fundraising and partnerships that could shape the future of the crypto market.
Full Transcription
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A lot of model bitches check for me.
Nigga, don't check for me.
Let you got checks for me.
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Meekin' my Glock and LaCour, oh God
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Cause that shit might come in handy
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I told you we gonna do the remix
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Softly, you gon' touch yourself, get off of me
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Look when I drift, you could slip, you know
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I don't give a fuck if you like me
Ask me how did it feel
Can't say it didn't surprise me
Last time I looked to my right
You niggas were standing beside me
How can some people I love
Hang around pussies who tried me
Let's go
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How can some people I love hang around pussies who tried me?
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I'm back in your city tonight, walkin' around with my head high
I saw bro in the pop out with demberman dick round gang since headline it feels like nobody's there till you start giving out
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what did i miss when i was looking at y'all and cooking with y'all and giving our verses
and bookings to y'all making sure wives wives were hit, man, what did I miss?
When you was all in my crib, looking at hoes, word for word at all of the shows,
y'all always felt like this, man, what did I miss? GM GM in the a.m. Happy Taco Tuesday to everybody appreciate you guys pulling up for the space
today we're going to be discussing meme coins versus NFTs baby I know a lot of people think that both of them are not worthy of
investments but I love memes I love NFTs I have a very neutral perspective on
both and I think that we're gonna see a super cycle for both of these whether
you believe in it or not it's inevitable I want to say GM GM to our co-host
Dabba Tola dabs what's up with you good to see you in the morning
see lots of OGs pulling up into the space Phoenix Jessica JT what up Mary Jane what up
Ahmed crypto fight week in the building baby fight club in the building Mr. Alex a lot of the OGs guys retweet this space if you haven't already and
Drop a comment. Let us know what you're buying and what your preference is whether they be
NFTs or memes and also why and I will pull people up and read it here hit the request
We're gonna do it a little bit differently today
We're gonna keep four people on our speaker panel and just give them an opportunity to jump into the conversation we will be rotating so stay on your toes scotty gm in the am brother
welcome to the space and uh how you feeling and let's kick this thing off man nfts versus memes
it's a very debatable conversation we got going on how you feeling bro i'm good i'm actually was gonna support the topic
here as i see people already have in the comments on the on the space and put a meme up here i'm
just trying to figure out if i want the fresh prince or if i want doodle jones or who should I post here? Which one should I put up there doodle for you?
Or me getting bitch slapped by
fucking Will Smith.
Thank you, Dr. Evil Scott.
That was a good one.
That was pretty fucking hilarious, actually.
But yeah, no.
I'll add to the memes here in a second.
But no.
Yeah, just chilling.
That's about it.
Getting the day going.
Got a couple appointments in a little bit.
Memes versus NFTs. Memes versus NFTs in this current cycle, in this current stage, where we're at right now in crypto.
Oh, man.
Hang on.
June or July 8 8th 2025 is memes or nfts getting your investment
and why damn that's a tough one they're they're both they're both getting my investment, but I'm not actively in the trenches looking for meme coins right now.
I feel that overall it's pretty cooked.
There'll be a few that'll run.
There'll be some like little areas that'll pop up.
And maybe when, you know, maybe when things get moving, like really moving with all coins in the market,
and we see Solana back over 200 and and things like that or avax and 40
and you know we could get some some big re-interest uh but i feel like the nft and like our community
has been pretty consistent regardless you know there hasn't been any huge huge explosions but
it's just been a very very consistent thing and I think that a lot of communities now are trying to add some sort of,
you know, you, you, uh, utility or more benefit to their NFTs and their
collections, which is, you know, and providing that value is ultimately key.
So I see NFTs actually picking up a bit.
And for me, I've in the last couple months have purchased more NFTs than I up a bit. And for me, I've, in the last couple months,
have purchased more NFTs than I have meme coins.
So, which is an interesting take considering...
Really, Scott?
I've been such a huge degen in the trenches.
Yeah, I haven't really been picking up any meme coins at all.
You have been doing a show for over a year called the dirty degen
where it used to look at meme coins like you were dr phil examining sick patients and uh you had
some good runners you had amazing i wish i wish we could draw back to that and see some of those
that i called early portfolio do we got any winners from there i'd have to check wallets, but I think the show wallets don't have anything in them.
I need to go through that, to be honest, to make sure everything's cool.
Because I haven't looked at that shit in like six months.
But there was some good stuff that was recorded last year, like a year ago.
That was some pretty good calls at the time.
And they've done well, or they're up now still.
It's just unfortunate that i can't even get
any of that video because apparently um the entire channel got scrubbed in like a hundred plus hours
and my stuff got got taken off of it so uh lesson learned you know if you're ever going to do content
and stuff i suggest making sure you have a copy of it or you put it on your own own channels or
keep it for safekeeping because one day you could
wake up and your shit could be gone but that's all another story uh but yeah no i you know you're
right i was in the trenches and doing shit like that multiple days a week for a whole year uh i
just think that things are not the same as last year and i'm not going to lie to myself and i'm
not going to go in there and you know throw money around that's just instantly gonna gonna be gone most of these tokens aren't hitting
bonding um you see the same you know being around for over a year looking at that and still looking
at it and in my timeline i could see all the same people you know pushing shit up dumping in or
whatever and within you know fucking two weeks sometimes even less that they're not talking about the token anymore.
I mean, obviously it's just pulling prop, like somebody's going to be losing there.
And I feel that the masses are losing there and only a few are gaining and I'm not in no cabal.
I'm not trying to be, and I'm not trying to, uh, to make a quick buck off of other people losing all their
money in their misery so uh i kind of just look for the community aspect and there's a few tokens
out there that i hold like meme coin wise that have good good communities i'm sure there'll be
a couple that'll that'll pop up but um i just don't feel that that's my main focus right now.
I'm actually enjoying seeing some of the communities with NFTs kind of further develop and do things like,
look at even being part of here with Doodlegenics,
whether people are part of Monetize on X or not,
they still get some alpha just because your community kind of bleeds over.
So they still get that and then and then even you know uh the first nft i bought on sweet was was the dunies and i just
saw recently they were putting chips and boards and they were trying to do all sorts of other stuff
to to tag to the art and different things so they're doing creative things in an area that i
that i've been part of my whole life, which is skateboarding.
So, you know, there's other aspects here that I'm enjoying as opposed to chasing a quick buck.
I like the take, Scott.
And I'm going to be very neutral because I think we got a lot of both. I think we got NFT projects and meme projects here today.
And it's really self-interested. And I hate to say that, but it's the truth. People are going to
put their money where their interest lies, where they're more favorable to, where they have more
conviction. And that's totally fine. And I believe that both could be winning plays, but the right
tokens and the right NFTs. Guys, retweet this space. I appreciate everybody coming up here.
We just started this space about 15 minutes ago. Conversation NFT versus memes. There's no right
or wrong opinion. So get up here. Let's say GM GM to Crow. crow happy taco tuesday crow how you doing my brother good to see you
in this space nfts or memes if you had to buy one what would you be what would you be buying today
you know each one of them has their own merits each one of them
is going to go ahead and have their own cycle it's depending on how long you want to wait
depending on you know how much you want to wait depending on you know
how much you want to invest in them do your research on the projects you know me i am more
of an nfp person um that's just because you can set it forget it not have to worry about getting
rugged you know anything like that um you know as frequently as what you do with a meme coin, especially in today's markets.
You know, it's definitely something to consider. Most people like to go ahead and keep their money
and keep their earned income. So, you know, I think it's a good thing for onboarding purposes,
you know, getting them used to the community aspect, doing things that way.
So I think, in my personal opinion, that NFTs are going to be the way for me.
And I think it's a great tool to utilize for a lot of newcomers.
Dope. Bullish, baby.
So much development in the NFT sides from 404s to rwas to cars now with dmc
super cool things are happening oh geez my neighbor's turning on his fucking ac again
it's gotta have a fucking loose fan wheel of course of course crow but anyways i'm smoking
this weed i'm not gonna give my opinion to the
very end of the space that's how I'm gonna rock with this one I'm staying very neutral on this
subject and I want to hear from you guys what you guys think so hit the request button come up
I'm reading some of the comments right now I'll share those in just one second but I'd love to
hear whether you guys think that NFfts or meme coins are worth the
investment and what you guys will be buying as of today july 8th brian gm in the am happy taco
tuesday i pose the same question to you nfts or memes if you could only buy one what are you
buying today my brother hey good morning tony good morning, Tony. Good morning, everybody. Definitely a difficult question. My personal
opinion, I would prefer NFTs. Say I had 5 to 10K to invest, may there be a little bit
more upside with the meme. But me personally, I enjoy the art and I'd rather get my hands
on something like a Bored Ape or some
big NFT or something cool that kind of speaks to me personally. That's the way I look at NFTs.
I look at them as less of an investment per se, and just more of a piece of art that kind of
speaks to me that I can hold forever if I want to. It's always going to be there. It ain't going
to get rugged. It ain't going to go rugged. It ain't going to go away.
It's just one of those things. So I personally lean towards NFTs. I know you guys and many in this room have probably noticed. It seems every meme project now launches their own NFTs.
I feel like they're becoming more and more linked together.
And then, as you mentioned, that 404 protocol and real world assets being tied to memes,
to art, to images,
it's going to kind of change the space.
So I actually believe there's quite a bit of upside
in the NFT market.
You know, memes will have the run,
NFTs will have the run.
But in my opinion, I really believe
with the development of NFTs,
there is actually a bit of upside there.
So that's kind of my take on the question. I like it. I like it a lot. I'm an NFT guy by nature.
I'm a project founder. I would have founded a meme token if I truly believed that that was the way but I started with NFTs I started with trading bigger market cap tokens and I
originally came tax to find all coins and all all coins and meme tokens
community tokens that could potentially rip but overall I think my heart still
lies with NFTs I think that they're, there's a dynamic shift right now.
The utilities are changing.
The RWAs are changing.
Assets are being tokenized.
And you don't need sometimes billions and billions of tokens.
And sometimes there's just an abundance of tokens as well too
that are being launched every day compared to nft so i i
find that sometimes they they may have a few more smaller communities that really have some upside
i've seen many people get wealthy off of meme coins so i don't want to on meme coins to be
honest i think that there are meme coins that do generate millionaires um i think you got to really
understand what you're buying and i think those those stories are few and far compared to the amount of time people
actually got get rugged i think when you look at them you know side by side they're kind of
different investments one is more just strictly financial based uh liquidity and financial based
with the meme tokens versus the nfts like people buy them for
the art people buy them for the utility people buy them for the financial aspect of it the social
aspect of it it's uh it's a different game changer it's a different dynamic but i want to hear from
more ogs and more legends i sent a request out to a few people i see mikey jessica phoenix what up come up here give us a take
scott does your take change you said originally like you said you're not really looking for memes
and i would say the same for myself i'm not really yeah i'm collecting a little bit of art
uh collecting a little bit of art you know if there's a good meme or there's something or a
good entry uh where i can make a few bucks quick. But I'm usually not in it for quick money or a quick dollar or to get rich.
Like that mentality is long gone.
You know, I'm kind of investing for a little bit further down the road.
But, you know, it would be nice to get a little bit more in my in my wallet because eventually, like I said, I'm going to be moving and and going to set up a little bit more of a.
Cooler studio.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
We got Queen Phoenix.
GM, Queen, how are you doing on this Taco Tuesday?
I imposed the same question to you.
NFTs or memes? If you had to choose one today which one
are you buying good morning Phoenix good morning so I'm not sure can you hear all of this noise in
the background because they're doing a lot of construction outside of my window or I may be
working on the blockchain myself if you can hear it out there do you hear it I can close my window
don't worry about it it's not as it's not as loud
as you think okay but it's very loud in here so it sounds like i'm actually working on the blockchain
myself with a jackhammer but good morning hope everyone's well hey debatola mary jane crow i I will choose NFTs all day, every day, and I know that NFTs have the utility, they have the community.
There are a lot of things that NFTs benefit.
I'm sorry, I'm unable to think in here, so I'm stumbling over my words, but let me just start over and say how to use entities all day, every day and entities. I know some people
think about the utility, how how innovative they are. But for
me, I fell in love with entities. Firstly, because of the art.
And so I think. That in and of itself gives it intrinsic value
and will give it more cultural importance in terms
of the ecosystem here versus NFS versus mean points because entities are just another form
of art and art will always have a place in our lives are always have a place in the culture
or is sort of like a last fashion of freedom of expression and people can express their
weight at their views and the and the most amazing and
beautiful ways and we've always valued and admired art and revered art since it was first etched on
cave walls thousands of years ago and then nfcs are just the next iteration of art so why wouldn't
nfcs hold the same same prominence and and legacy that other forms of art have so that's why i think nfcs have
solidified their place here in the ecosystem versus mean coins i mean you can look at mean
coins as just another part of the microcosm of the larger world there's good and bad things in
the larger world and so that will spill over here and mean coins can is a little
i mean you can look at it as in a positive way and in a negative way there are a lot of negative
things that come with mean coins if you're not jumping into it wisely but i think if i look at
the silver lining of mean coins i'll say that meme coins could be the gateway for retail investors to get into the wider spectrum of tokens, Bitcoin, altcoins, because once they're there, it might spark their curiosity to see what else is out there in terms of tokens and find more reliable legacy tokens like bitcoin ethereum xrp so it could be
the gateway to retail investors flooding the market and and increasing the value of cryptocurrency
overall once they get in once they move past meme coins and the shiny objects you know tempting them
here they can move beyond that to get to some more sustainable and valuable
tokens i hate to be biased but that's my favorite take so far i like that take a lot
and i agree with it a hundred percent there's so much to the nfts it's super dynamic
and sometimes meme coins are just flat other than maybe the community and the chart uh if there is
no utility that's all you're really getting um i do agree with phoenix crypto a lot on meme tokens
being kind of like this greater bridge for people especially mainstream media
and in retail investors to get into crypto I think we see a lot of people start with memes
and then end up in NFTs and then kind of like ditch some of their mean tokens or just take a
little bit more of a passive route with them but it's interesting to see I would say they're both
alive and doing extremely well I have a very neutral opinion right now but we're gonna spin it around the room and hear from
everybody i'm unbiased guys come up and give us a take there's no right or wrong answer it's purely
opinion based self-interested let's say gmgm to mikey mike good morning my guy give me a hot take
right now i impose the same question to you meme coins or NFTs welcome to the space Mike
Yo, good morning everyone. Thanks for having me up. I
Honestly, I'm gonna pick NFTs bro. I'm not gonna not gonna hate on meme coins. I really do like Phoenix's take
For sure sure you know you got me into the
community of of nfts doodle and uh i i can't i can't thank you enough um you've you've definitely
shown me enough of of the the love that i need and showing of what i need to learn from nfts and
then i've been in other spaces where there's big kols or whatever
you want to call them trying to push a coin bro like saying it's going to be a great coin and you
can you know if you've been around the block for a little bit you can tell what their their end all
goal is bro it's to rug pull anybody that's i wouldn't say dumb but just not intelligent enough to know what's going on
and uh and read the room but anyway regardless i love communities bro i love nfts i i'm i like
your your before phoenix talked i like the way you said that um you know you're really bullish
on nfts because of of what they can hold and and if you really look at it if
you really look at get down to the i guess i haven't looked at it yet but if you really get
down to the the nitty-gritty bro of everything they're trying to put everything on in and into
an nft i mean grant cardone was talking about properties and and with bitcoin and and all
these other things and it's like how can you not be bullish on NFTs more than,
I'm not going to say more than meme coins,
but how could you not have it to where it's like,
damn, like I should be looking at NFTs a lot more.
You know, meme coins, you can just throw away money easily
if you don't pick the right one,
if you don't do your research and you're right.
It doesn't, they don't always run up.
They're not all going to run up.
So, and that's the same with the nft projects too
potentially i mean you guys know more about the nfts than me but that's my take i'm super
bullish on every crypto project i'm bullish on the whole ecosystem uh i just can't wait
to see where we are in 10 years
i fucking love that take mike i love that take for many reasons one is you're absolutely right
i feel like nft's utility is becoming super dynamic with rwa's tokenization
second thing is you can lose a lot of money quickly on both i would say you know if your sole sole purpose is to buy the nft
just for a financial uh profit it's going to be a lot harder and a lot eliquid in liquid i don't
even know what the right word is then then a mean token is i also agree with you and i feel that um
you know the reason why people are not really bullish on nfts
right now is because in 2021 we had everybody talking about them we had the mainstream media
the news you had people rapping about nfts justin bieber eminem snoop dogg they were all rocking
these as pfps we're not seeing that cycle this bull market but look at the price
point for bitcoin it's a lot higher so we don't need all the flashing gimmicks here with crypto
to be honest the real people understand where the where the value is and and you know you have to be
a little crazy to invest in in cryptocurrency or nftTs I honestly think out of all the profit centers in crypto meme coins and NFTs are the most
speculative ones but sometimes they're also the most profitable ones they have
some unforeseen phenomenons that you can't even predict or recreate and
they're unexplainable bro they're really unexplainable bro who how could you explain
a crypto punk selling for 350 000 when there's absolutely no utility of it other than just the
tradable asset and the actual art you know you can right click and save that art and still post that
up and uh i'm sure that person is not going to know or ever come into
your house, but still being traded for 300K, which is crazy. So yeah, I think both have their
they're they're in woven into crypto, Mike, but it's it's an interesting conversation.
Let's say what's up to crypto fight. We crypto Fight Club and hear their topic and their opinion on what's popping with NFTs and memes.
If you could only buy one today, Crypto Fight Club, what are you buying, baby?
What's going on, dude?
I would probably say if I could only buy one today.
Honestly, I'd probably say an NFT. Mostly because that's what I've
been buying most of lately. And I think something that's interesting, I did have a bunch of
good stuff to say until Phoenix took it all. Definitely, definitely spin truth over there. So, um, no, I'd say that,
um, if you kind of like think of, you know, in general with the goals of both of these
NFTs and meme coins are, I'd say that NFT communities honestly have everything that
meme coin communities want. Um, you know, you, you just get, you just get a real, you just get
real, um, you know, engagement with, with, uh, NFT projects. And it's like, I think one of the
good things is that it, it breaks down barriers. You know, you can like, you can, you can start
getting involved with an NFT community and you can walk into a space and just just by your PFP alone you are now one
of the one of the posse and you are you are naturally accepted more accepted
more more willing to hop up on stage and speak more you know so like I think I
think if if if there are mean coin projects that have cracked that code and are able to do the same type of community stuff that NFT projects do, then, you know, in that projects are struggling to find out how to create a meme coin or how to create a community like the NFTs just naturally do.
I love to take.
I'm unbiased and very neutral.
If you were to picture me as a country, I would be Switzerland right now, like the Swiss bank.
And no, we don't bank with XRP yet. So sorry guys not pumping it um sorry phoenix but what i will say is i really like to
take because i value community i value people over profits you can work a nine to five an irl job you
can trade stocks you can trade commodities bonds crypto and all make a profit
right, but when you're in a community you got to value the people and
My in my personal opinion
With that being said
Pretty much everybody on the speaker panel has said NFTs
So I got a follow-up question for the original question NFTs versus mean coins
I see we're a little bit. Well. I see we're a little bit,
well, I see we're a little bit favorite,
favoritizing NFTs.
What do we value most about communities?
And I'll start with our co-host, Scott.
We opened the space with you.
I'm going to kick it back to you.
What do you value most about communities?
Because in a reply today,
I put out what makes you happy.
You also said community
and i would agree with you on that 150 what's the best thing about community what do you value most
my brother oh just the people you know i mean that's the the main heart of the community is the
people hey sorry i'm keeping it short.
I'm just like, I'm in motion.
I have to, I have an appointment
in a few minutes.
I've just been listening.
Real one.
All right, I agree with you on that.
100% facts.
If you agree, throw some hundreds.
I think people are the starting point
of any community.
He took the fucking,
he took the sauce, Phoenix.
Now it's a challenging question.
What do you value most about community, Phoenix?
I think what I value most about community is the culture and the ethos they create.
Because these group of people that form the community, they're coming together because they're like-minded.
They share common interest,
common goals, common values. And the more people that come together,
those same goals and values and viewpoints, they create this massive amount of power and energy when they're collectively working towards a common goal. A community of people is more powerful than
one person shouting into the wind. So when
community gets together and they're focused and they love something, the art or the NFT or whatever
it is that they're promoting, they have this unstoppable force. So I think the power that
they generate and the culture that they create, that's the secret sauce.
the culture that they create, that's the secret sauce.
Phoenix is blazing right now.
Oh, she's coming in with hot bars.
She's giving Tupac is like rolling over right now.
Baby, baby, from Brooklyn.
I love that take, Phoenix.
I'm going to pass it over to Crow.
it over to crow crow what do you value most about communities here in nfts
Crow, what do you value most about communities here in NFTs?
it's the ability to go ahead and get the hives mind together to brainstorm new ideas to
brainstorm things that can be benefitful that you know and fruitful for the future
um you know when you can go ahead and get eight nine thousand people in the community
you know when you can go ahead and get eight nine thousand people in the community
there's there's so many different ideas so many ways to generate
you know new new avenues for the nft project partnerships it's all on who you know so it's
not on what you know so if you can go ahead and get so many people in a good community and you get
good solid community members hey you're going to have your engagement through the roof but then you're also going to go ahead and have you know
the ability to branch out even further so when you go ahead and take that and level that up
your project is going to be even better um and it doesn't matter what way you twist it, anything like that. There's no downside to a community, period.
I take that back.
A little bit of drama here and there.
It's to be expected.
Not everybody's going to get along.
Not everybody's going to do what they need to do.
But for 99% of the time, it is honestly positive.
And I would take that camaraderie and that community rhetoric over
anything else any day of the week hello check bill that's what i say now at the restaurants
check bill take it and go baby because that was fucking alpha shout out to crow and guys today
we have a dope space with soul saver it's happening tonight at 6 p.m cst
pull up it's time to mint some moon stirs it's time to grab a bag of the token moon rock we're
gonna support we're gonna learn all about it and we're gonna share a little bit about the doodle
genic sauce and monetize our necks and everything that we've been building here uh over the past
four years but uh crow i love what you, man, holding it down and all the amazing
moonsters that come through the spaces, MetaGuardians, Moon, and a whole bunch of them.
So much love to you, my brother.
I think you guys are giving amazing takes, guys.
Retweet this space.
Come and join the conversation.
Crow, back to you, brother.
You have a follow-up?
Yeah, I just wanted to say thanks for, you know,
letting everybody know about that space tonight.
It's 6 p.m. CST.
You know, it's going to be amazing.
It's going to be amazing, especially, you know, like I just said,
getting the hives mine together and so many things are fruitful from that.
You know, and then we have a space
that'll end up with you um following uh so it's just it's such a great thing such a great thing
doodle genics you know moonsters possibilities are endless that is two powerhouses of you know
nft projects getting together and supporting each other and uplifting and bringing light light onto the nft community as a whole you know it's not for for profits it's not for
anything like that it's for you guys to get into good solid projects if you aren't already into
them you know and get that visibility and that camaraderie that everybody's feet you know kind
of in that space you know when i started i i had you know honestly 100 followers i was a nobody
but due to community and you know everybody uplifting each other it makes a huge difference
that's why we're asking the question what do you value most about community
and after your memes guys come up and give us a
take gmgm to everybody shout out to crow shout out to soul saver and pull up tonight at 6 p.m cst for
the space it's going to be a spicy one and you guys are going to get the early alpha on both projects
come with some crypto come with some solana come with some ethereum set up a metamask set up a phantom wallet or just set up a phantom wallet and you kill two birds with one stone uh meow x
i ask you the same questions what do you value most about community my brother
gm and am welcome to the space bro
That's a sad pussy if I've ever seen one.
Set me up for that one.
He set me up for that one, Scott.
He got punched right in the pussy.
Right in the kisser.
Oh, that sounds painful.
OMG.
It's supposed to be. those rucks anyways I'm neutral like Switzerland come up here give us a
hot take NFTs versus meme coins people have a lot of great takes on it and no opinion is wrong we've
heard from Phoenix we heard from Scott we heard from crow we heard from crypto fight club we heard from mike
uh i want to hear from some new voices if you guys have an opinion drop it in the comments or
hit the request button and we'll pull you up i see the original i see junior i see hm i see rye my
guy i see uh spare parts spare parts i was banging some of your music, my guy. Fire shit. King of Hearts is a real one for always putting on.
Let's ask Crypto Fight Club. Crypto Fight Club.
Did we ask you what you value most about community?
You haven't yet.
I got to...
Before I answer that, just a little bit of backstory.
Have you seen the movie Fight Club?
Of course. Okay. All right. Of course. So in the new one too. So one of the things, uh, one of the things that I love, uh,
that's in that movie is, uh, when Tyler Durden, um, refers to the narrator as a space monkey,
what I, what I value most, value most about crypto communities is the true
space monkeys. And, you know, it's those people that are, you know, it's like a monkey ready to
get shot into space, sacrificing himself for the greater good. When you see those space monkeys in
your project, in your community, the people that are willing to,
you know, like pitch in for marketing just out of the goodness of their heart or, or win, win
some giveaway or something like that and say, no, no, no, bro, keep the coins, keep the coins,
keep them in the treasury. Uh, somebody that reaches out and is like, Hey, I want to, I want
to take some of my personal tokens that I, that I, them to a giveaway or, you know, add to the liquidity.
You know, those are the space monkeys.
And that's what I love.
I'm looking for those every day.
I would 100% agree.
I didn't really want to give a take.
But one thing that I love about community
is the unity. Phoenix mentioned it. Everybody kind of mentioned it to some degree. It's like
when like-minded individuals click and connect on a mission or on a purpose, on a goal, they'll do
anything to achieve it and never put it past human beings because nothing is impossible I truly believe that it's
not even in my dictionary I've seen people evolve change I've seen them grow from a hundred people
to almost 10,000 people plus and get monetized get paid do collaborations found projects a whole bunch
of crazy stuff support artists collect NFTs i love the unity that comes with community
and and i think that is really strong and i think that's important because there is no community if
there's no unity if there's no core culture if there's no core target or aim then after everybody
is just self-interest and that's what happens a lot in these meme coins
and people pull the the price in one direction or people pull the community in one direction
or there's like orchestrated buys or sells or you know just manipulation over the project and that
could also happen in nfts but i feel like they're a little bit more aligned. Communities have this more of a transparent culture
than I feel like in memes.
A lot of people sell against other people.
A lot of people are telling you that they're holding a bag
and really got no tokens.
You kind of know when somebody's in an NFT project
because they're holding that asset.
They're maybe using it as a display asset. They're, you know, maybe
using it as a display picture. But overall, I love the unity when it comes to NFTs. That's,
that's my big thing. Let's ask shiny, shiny girl, the same question and then post it to her.
Shiny NFTs versus meme tokens. Welcome to the space. If you could only choose one today to buy,
the space if you could only choose one today to buy what would you choose and why
okay thank you very much to do with that and then sorry i didn't hear the last part of the question
if we can use if you can only buy one today nfts or meme tokens what the title says of the space what would you prefer to buy and why okay that's a hard
question actually my shiny so we're not judging you we just want to know kind of
where you're at right now and where you think the market's at and uh we'd love to share we'd love to
hear you share your opinion okay if i have that and i want to like guess okay now firstly uh i
don't think i'll go for nfts actually no mean coin yeah and then um when looking into nfts the community the utility behind it the hats no the hats before
the utility behind it and then the thing behind the project so uh currently i would say nft fighters
but it's not meeting out yet so i can say you know nfc is actually don't kill us a project just pick either
nfc or me points okay so great so you lean into nfcs i think a lot of people here feel the same
way as you almost everybody had that same opinion which is great i think people are really seeing
the value and not just speculating over token price and uh that's that's really great my second
question is to you shiny girls what do you value most about communities because you chose nfts
nfts generally come with communities at least the strong ones and successful ones do so what do you
value most about communities okay the um what i was when when i it's coming to see is this fancy the consistency how consistent
the community is because consistency is the key they can start with an high energy at the beginning
and those end when it's like when they are consistent yes and also the collaborations, how they work together is very important.
Also, when looking into communities, how they work together, their ways of movement,
do they have same goals, same alignment?
It's also like what I value in community also.
And then they being very, no too much of like rules and regulations, like being real and
then like working towards the same girls and i would like headline so that's basically what i
love when cannot community their consistency and the collaborations they have within themselves
and outside other community also damn
everybody is on point today everybody is spitting alpha this makes me so proud as a host
everybody's coming up and sharing some real value and it's not just a self-centered chill or a big
pump this is dope shiny i appreciate you hear a little echo just close your mic for a second
thank you for giving us a hot take i think you just crushed it phoenix what
do you think of this space so far we've been hearing some really interesting stuff
i think everybody's on par i think everybody's hitting hole in one today they can't miss
it's amazing i'm really loving all of the hot takes all the feedback and it's just a testament
to your space doodle and i think the type of people that gravitate to this space, because even though
you're not intentionally trying to create a community of like minded people in this space,
like minded people still gravitate to this space and they all have the same similar points of
ease. So I think it's incredible and a testament to who you are and the people that gravitate in and are attracted to this space so i'm loving all the
all the information all the opinions here
i agree and we can't do this space without our amazing co-hosts phoenix script oen scott so
make sure that you follow them turn on those notice phoenix is so
goddamn close from hitting 10k she's like 300 and something followers away she's less than 400
followers away guys be a part of that last 400 if you're not already following her she also has a
giveaway as their pin suite she's giving away $100 in Seoul. Two people are going to win $50 each.
I'm going to pin it up to the top.
And I've shared this already, but I'm going to reshare it again in just one second.
I just pinned it up to the top.
There you go, guys.
Get involved into the giveaway.
Free money from the Queen.
Phoenix, this is is awesome I can't
wait till you hit 10k it's gonna be a party I know it's gonna be surreal you
know I'm not I'm not very interested in trying to gain followers I think more so
family and friends and I never thought that I could reach that kind of number
you know when I first met you, I barely had 100 followers,
but just growing with you, your encouragement,
and just providing this safe space for me to grow
and spread my wings and get out of my comfort zone,
it just happened organically and naturally.
So I'm happy to thank for that as well.
That's another benefit of being here in this space.
You grow not only through followers, but you grow internally, spiritually, financially, in all types of ways. So I'm proud of how far I've come so far, and I have you to thank in part for that.
I try to throw her flowers.
She throws them back at me.
Phoenix, you take those flowers and sniff them.
Thank you so much, Queen.
It means a lot.
I just want to see genuine people win.
I feel like you have a great intuition.
And same with a lot of people here and the listeners on the speaker panel.
And that's what a real community is made out of.
Not just one person that advocates for a real community is made out of not just one
person that advocates for a project or a token or an nft or an art piece it's a bunch of people
that are all like-minded that are all clicking up on the same mission another big thing that i like
about nfts is that it brings a network of people together and I don't know if you've ever heard it,
but it's said a lot in the business world,
your network is your net worth.
And I truly do believe that.
And I think that I personally,
I'm not fortunate with all the God-given skills in the world.
And I have my own flaws.
And that's why we have such a big network because there's other people that have those amazing skills and those amazing talents in which I don't have.
And we can support each other and I can support them and they could support the talents that I have.
So it's amazing.
You know, that's the net worth is definitely your net worth.
And I think that a lot of people are sleeping on that.
So try to follow as many people as you possibly can.
Try to reply as many possible times as you can throughout the day without stressing yourself
out.
Because I know some people get stressed.
Oh, I didn't hit my reply goal today.
I didn't hit my impressions.
I didn't hit my like goal.
Listen, it's okay to not hit our goals.
If you show up consistently, results will follow that consistency so appreciate you
phoenix you're as consistent as it gets you show up 365 days a year on christmas new year's eve
holidays president day your birthday god damn it every single day phoenix so
shout out to you a real legend in the space um let's hear from jr jr gm in the am welcome to
the space good to have you here nfts or memes i imposed a tricky question to you my friend if you
could only buy one today what are you buying jr good morning my brother good morning doodle thanks
for thanks for having me up um i it's a difficult one for me too.
I would probably say, I don't know if it's okay to say meme coins.
I've been listening to everybody. Of course it's okay.
It's your opinion.
Yeah.
So, you know, I think what, and I'm not shilling here at all,
but what I've done is I've joined a project and we've part of the meme coin,
but we're also doing the NFTs as part of the meme coin.
And I think the community is growing.
And I think having the NFTs as part of the meme coin project has really kind of taken us to another level.
So, you know, for me, the meme coin comes first, but I think the NFT project is also very important, but I probably would just swing with meme coins.
Doodle, I think.
That's, you know, that's kind of my view.
And I am part of some other NFT projects, which are all about community as well.
So I'm kind of doing that angle as well.
And I'm very new to this space.
I'm only two years into crypto.
I'm actually only about nine months into memes.
Two years makes you a dinosaur, bro.
You're moving slower right now like a mammoth.
Yeah, I'm really old as well.
I'm 50 years old, man.
I did not mean it that way i didn't mean it physically oh no worries man uh no so you know i would swing towards meme coins but it's probably
meme coins okay well here's my follow-up question to that and there's there's no right or wrong
answer and i appreciate you coming up and sharing that and a solid meme coin generally
you know what i'm going to say is backed by a strong community would you agree
absolutely and i think you know so my my follow-up question is this what do you value most about
community yeah i i think that the relationships that we've been building and that and those
connections together all pulling in the same direction um you know it's so powerful and i
made some great friends already and uh continuing to do so and it brings strength and we're all
generally pulling in the right direction you know we hit some bumps in the road sometimes, but we work through it.
And I think that community shows strength.
You know, I think the friendships for me have been a great thing.
I never thought I could build such friendships over Web3.
And I think it's...
Dude, when I see you in the comments, how fast do I reply to you?
Be honest.
Man, you're quick. And I think it's when I see you in the comments, how fast do I reply to you? Be honest Man you quick
For the real one but you guys know what I'm on, you know, you guys can tell
I have a feeling you guys could tell when I'm up when there's like 30 replies a minute
You're like, okay doodles on I'm next in queue. Where the fuck is my reply doodle?
And then I always come through I always come through for the real ones.
And I agree with you.
My biggest thing with community is the unity aspect of it.
Everybody's supporting one mission, one goal.
It's like a bunch of raving fans.
You can't stop that kind of success.
Absolutely.
I totally agree brother all right well listen this has been a hot conversation we're not going anywhere
we're only getting locked in it's only like almost nine o'clock on the other side of the world
it's about 8 p.m here so i still got hours like i got superpowers retweet this space join the conversation
drop a comment hit the reply uh hit the request we want to hear from everybody here there's no
wrong or right opinion and you are entitled to your own opinion um we got spare parts in the
building gmgm spare parts i imposed a difficult question on you today my brother happy taco
tuesday nfts or meme coins if you could only choose one to purchase today on july the 8th
2025 what are you gonna buy bro uh good morning first of all doodles uh thanks for all the space
good morning everybody in here too i want to say i I would This is a big topic for me. I would say NFTs. I'm a collector. I love art. I'm a creator myself
I love creating and I love art and I love to show support for artists and
and try to show support through a...
Try to show support through a
It has...
It's almost like it's inevitable, you know?
Like, it might go down.
And when it does go down, you really...
What do you have, a couple tokens to show for in your wallet?
You know, that sucks.
But at least if you see, you know...
And you really you're not buying it for the dollar value of the NFT
I'm not at least and I bought many NFTs in the last two weeks, you know, I bought golf addicts
I bought bull bears. I bought soul Zilla's
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. You're buying other bears and not doodogenics?
You broke my little heart, man.
Oh, that was cute, bro.
I'm kidding.
You got a discount code or what, bro?
I don't own these bears.
They're on the market.
They're on the secondary.
But no, I'm happy that you're buying NFTs, bro.
That's the spirit no i'll take
a look into it sometimes we need that push right we all need that push like you know when you're
in a space and you know the right thing to do and the honest right thing to do is to retweet the
fucking space right like that's how we get the word out and that's touching back to community
right what is community when nobody's actually
there to show up for you and i i have a very different perspective on community i'm a team
player bro i love teamwork and and i believe big in teamwork i do believe teamwork does make the
dream work without a team without a community you're not really getting anywhere but i feel
like community bro let me
tell you doodles i've been i've been i've been fuming on this the last 15 minutes you guys
been talking about a lot and gets taken advantage of a lot bro and i agree yes bro yes yes okay so
i don't want to say community is bullshit but community is taken advantage of, bro. And community is only for that one individual
that wants to take advantage of it.
Community is, right?
Community is, hey, am I gonna win with this community?
What the fuck, bro?
Why does it have to do about winning?
Why does it have to be about winning?
You know, I've been my own community member, me,
myself and I, for my whole goddamn life, bro.
My whole life.
Really shitful of support.
Because that's how much I believe in community and teamwork, that I want community and I want teamwork.
But the truth of the matter is, bro, community is there like you just said, bro.
You took the words out of my mouth.
Community is taking advantage of
bro and community is only there for the one person that wants to win what if my project tanks are you
still going to be there that's the real question that's the real question if my project is tanking
you still going to stick up no the answer is no bro You're not going to because I personally single-handedly experienced this.
And this is my passion talking, bro.
I'm not mad at all, bro.
I am not mad.
I'm just passionate about what?
Hang on.
Hang on.
Let's lean into it a little bit because I want to know.
And I also want to share you some of the hardships not to brag about it, but just to tell you about it.
Yeah.
Because here's the thing bro
i've had a community for four years being an nft project founder we have thousands of holders
on multiple chains just going to mute you for a sec because i'm hearing an echo on on uh
i believe it was like de December 3rd of 2023.
There was a huge crypto meltdown with this SDK protocol called ThirdWeb.
And unfortunately, I launched my project as well as thousands and thousands of other projects launched through this application and in this application there was an open zeppelin
breach and openc had it in their marketplace a lot of people were affected in this in crypto
and a lot of projects bro just got rugged right off the blockchain they were just deemed untradeable
because they were not safe and what happened it put a lot of pressure on founders
especially on ethereum because other chains that are gas agnostic can just remit all the nfts and
10 000 20 000 100 million it don't matter it's cheap as but especially ethereum and bitcoin
and bitcoin and it was only ethereum because bitcoin wasn't affected they don't have smart
and it was only ethereum because bitcoin wasn't affected they don't have smart contracts
contracts it up tons of projects bro and some of the og projects even including myself to pay to
reconstruct it through third web was about 35 000 to get everybody their nfts back on chain
basically our stock was deemed untradeable we lost community support we had a bunch of angry
community members that thought the project rug because they didn't have access to trade or any
open markets on marketplaces with their nfts it was a fucking nightmare bro do you know how strong
of a fucking founder that made me coming back from that it took two and a half almost three
months almost 90 days plus coming up with personal funds to fund this and fix the operation to get
everything back on chain i had a claim period for over a year i hired a contractor personally
to go out and reconstruct the smart contract dude i did everything in order to make it like whole i didn't have to do
that bro i'll be honest i didn't have to do that that's that's like a black swan event uh occurrence
but i just felt that i was responsible to do that and do the right thing for the thousand holders or
the multiple thousands of holders and the thousands of fans and followers that all fucking love these doodogenic nfts and all love
the community and all want to be a part of the community and then we live on bro and people like
phoenix uh people like keith some of our biggest and strongest community members obz they've all
stuck around they've all stuck around and guess what You shed the fat of people that are doubters and non-believers.
And that's why I love that new Drake song so fucking much, bro.
What the fuck did I miss when I was selling out their collection?
When I was raising their floors like their daughters and sons?
What the fuck did I miss when I was aping into their collections and buying 20 NFTs
or promoting them and co-hosting them to
sell their shit out and get them to beg what did i miss what did i miss mike i didn't miss anything
we don't miss now so you just shed the fat of the community that wasn't really there to support you
and wasn't really there to see out the true mission the community has or the vision and uh you realign
with the people that are here it's obvious the people that the community has or the vision and uh you realign with the
people that are here it's obvious the people that support it's obvious the people that don't
and that's fine we gotta play this song now that's it we're playing the fucking song
phoenix we're playing this song play the song
you got it bro you know what time it is.
I appreciate your take, too, man.
I'm going to have to hop out of here because I got to get to work.
It's 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock in the morning.
You got to listen to this talk. I don't give a fuck if you love me.
I don't give a fuck if you like me.
Ask me how did it feel.
Can't say it didn't surprise me.
Last time I looked to my right You niggas was standing beside me
How can some people I love
Hang around pussies who drive me?
Let's go
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
Let's go Let's go What did I miss? What did I miss?
Let's go.
Let's go.
I'm whipping around on like 600 niggas.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
You niggas just better not ask for no favor.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
It's love for my brothers and debt to a trader.
Let's go.
We might decide to say no to me now, but say yes to me later.
Let's go.
Her ass is all natty like Florida Gator.
Let's go. you switch on the
guys and supported a hater what's to give up and niggas is TBD I look at this kid like a
VTC could be down this week and I'm up next week I don't give a fuck if you love me I don't give a
fuck if you like me asking me how did it feel can't say it didn't surprise me Last time I looked to my right
You niggas was standing beside me
How can some people I love
Hang around pussies who drive me?
Let's go
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
What did I miss? Phoenix, what did I miss? What did I miss?
Let's go.
Hey, let's go, let's go.
Hey, let's go, let's go.
They're gonna need some ice ice.
Hey, let's go. Hey, let's go.
Yeah, niggas get punched in the face with some TLC shit on the dead guys.
Some TLC shit, because my nigga, you gonna need a trillie iced coffee on left eye.
I'm back in your city tonight, walking around my head high.
I saw bro and the pop out with Denver and Dick Ron gangsters headlines.
It feels like nobody's there till you start giving out two-tones.
Go up to the top.
And nobody cares until they get away.
Let's go. Y'all been on that type of time for too long. Iceman Tiffany Bluestones. We start giving out two tones Go up to the top And nobody cares Until they in front of your tombstone
Y'all been on that type of timing for too long
Iceman, Tiffany, Bluestones
I done made plenty shit right out of two wrong shit
Let's go
Let's go
Let's go, let's go
I got to set the back
I got to set the back
I got to set the back Oh Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, get some money, fuck they plan, I told them take this plan, bitch, stop playing, I'm tired of buying jewelry, fail to buy some land, they see us trying to figure out who I am, who I be, pillow talking to these hoes, they hit weed, they say money, talk, put diamonds in my teeth, I be Louis down with Jordans on my feet, niggas messed up in your yard like trickers, We Money I
Niggas
You better play your cars right you been I ever read but it's trying over here. I put you on the knee. Yeah, I ripped it fab
baby let's go baby we're back happy taco Tuesday meme coins versus NFTs we're asking everybody the
hard question and we've had some amazing takes the space is on fire there's no wrong or right
answer everybody today is on fuego on point and spare parts what do you think of that we didn't have any follow-up i know
you have to slide but did you want to say anything uh before we get to the next speaker
i think he might it might have been checked out that's okay oh me you talking to me yeah yeah did
you oh no no no i just want to say uh i i I came off a little strong and I do want to say to follow up with that is that we should be out here to really express how we feel.
You know, I feel like in social media and society in today, a lot of people suppress how they really feel, you know.
So this goes to everybody out here listening speaking
whoever it is speak how you feel don't bottle that shit up okay because it's not healthy
it's not healthy for your brain it's not healthy for the body speak the truth tell everybody how
you feel don't sugarcoat shit take those filters off off and move on because you're going to feel better.
And the person in front of you might actually respect you.
So thank you for the space doodles.
I'm going to clip out of here now.
Good job playing a song.
Good job, everybody.
And crush the day, crush the week.
And see you guys soon, all right?
Legendary, my guy.
I appreciate you a whole bunch.
Retweet the space, guys.
We're live, rocking and popping.
Happy Taco Tuesday to everybody.
I never want to put a filter on people when they come up here.
I want to allow them to speak their mind.
I want to have an open, unbiased space.
I hate centralization.
I absolutely hate it. I hate being on panels that are just super fucking curated as well, too. That shit kind of just irks
me the wrong way because you can't speak your mind on it. And they want you to say some
fugazi bias shit. I'm not about that life. I speak my mind. People know that doodogenics is real raw.
So shout out to you
spare parts i agree you know people should take the mask off and just truly be themselves because
there's no better person to be than you simple let's say what's up to jessica jess we have a
hard question for you this morning nfts versus memes and why if you could only buy one today
what would you be purchasing how are
you doing jess good morning good morning tony good morning phoenix mike and the cryptofite club
everybody else in the space well i've um of course i would choose nfts before meme cons four main cons because I'm an artist and I do NFTs. And I think we need to
choose between different NFTs
because we have those are quite expensive and have a
financial value. And then we have NTs that are
created by artists like me. So where the value lies in
how the art affects your soul
and heart more than the financial one.
And I think it was Spare Parts who said,
why do you have a meme coin in your wallet
when it doesn't have any value?
Or if it has any value.
But art and NFTs goes to your heart and soul.
So I choose NFTs.
I love it.
My follow-up question, and there's no wrong or right answer.
So Jess, I love what you said.
You made some really valid points.
Follow-up question to that is, what do you value most about community?
Because in my opinion, and I think a lot of people would agree is every nft project and every successful meme project generally follows that
by a strong community so what do you value most about community well i think it's about supporting
and helping each other and like everybody else said too and learning from others success and experience
and feeling a sense of belonging and appreciation like this community and like yours
we support each other every day and uplifting every day for each other in space and in the comments and in our tweets.
So, and this is such a great way of also being a better person when you learn from others.
And like Phoenix said, you grow as a person being a part of a community like this.
and I think it's a very important thing to see
because I think this community would stand in front of me in problems
and I don't want to have people backing me up from behind or from the side.
I want people to go in front of me
and I surely would do that to everyone in the community.
So that's what I value with communities.
I agree 150%.
I think when great unity comes together,
people are really learning, networking, building, collaborating,
and there's real value there.
There's services, skills.
There's a lot of things that are not minted on chain that are exchanged
when you have you know an abundant community so 150 jess you're on fire today everybody's just
absolutely smashing it with the hot takes so guys give all these amazing speakers to follow today
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if you have retweeted it unretweeted retweeted again put it at the top of your timeline allow
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little extra crypto right now and I can't wait to see her at 10k so big shout out to you Phoenix and also go follow our other co-host monetize on X I decided to develop an application for really creators
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It has you tracking monetization.
It has you creating content and tweets in the app.
You can also schedule and post them directly from the app because it has user permissions
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engagement followers or whatnot you can export all this data so if you're doing
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on X. But it's really an app developed for X, for community members that are trying to grow for
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You have the opportunity to really connect with people on it. Take that opportunity
So I'm giving people an opportunity right now to welcome you guys into the group. There's already 31 people
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google pay you can pay with a debit or credit card you could always send solana or usdc so let's keep
it rocking let's keep it popping we got many more people that want to give a hot take let's ask the
question to tim tim nftTs or meme coins? GM,
GM in the AM? If you could only buy one today, my friend, what would you be buying, Tim?
GM Doodly, if I could only buy one, it'd be NFTs for sure. But I think meme coins are equally as
important, but I think NFTs give meme coins really their value. Otherwise, meme coins are
kind of an empty marketing strategy, in my opinion, without NFTs.
So unless I already had a utility built and I want to go straight to a meme coin to pump something that's already got a framework and some artwork behind it and some intellectual property behind it.
Yeah.
Otherwise, I think meme coins are empty without NFTs.
And that's really my perspective
and please please any criticism welcome and thank you delhi for letting me jump in
well that's a great take no criticism all opinions are welcome there's no wrong or right answer here
and it's great to hear from other great minds in the space my second question as a follow-up to
that and i think you can agree that whether it's an NFT or a meme coin, I think the success really lies in the community.
It's the people that hold the floor. It's the people that continue to buy more and see the potential price value or just value increasing in the project.
What do you value most about communities?
about communities? Well, aside from the support system of communities, I just really value the
passion of people and being able to identify as a whole body of people. So for example, if all of us
are a human being, then really we're all kind of Tim, you're rugging like a robot.
Really exposing with art, entertainment, music,
all of these things that really drive the NFTs.
I think that's the ultimate layer behind it.
I don't know if I got lost in connection or not.
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah, you're getting lost, my brother. Oh, so to try to wrap that up, I have to interrupt this. I don't know if I got lost in connection or not. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, you're getting lost, my brother.
Oh, so to try to wrap that up,
I have to disrupt this, so sorry. I feel that
identifying
as an audience, as a group,
as we all identify
the same thing. I think it's the aspect
and the passion and the reason for art.
And that is the reason why
these are so important.
So when it comes to community, it's all of us being able to identify really as just one body of people all within the same alignment.
And that, I think, is the passion of an audience.
So aside from a support system, when it comes to community, it's identifying with each other and delivering that.
And instead of it, the money and the fame and anything that comes
with that those are perks it's really about delivering to you you like if i with otherwise
it's just all about me and you know that's what's happening i love it phoenix do you want to add
anything or do you want to have a follow-up to that?
Sorry, you caught me in the middle of doing a sweep.
Sorry, you were throwing emojis.
No, I know you agree with the take.
So, Tim, you're on point.
No worries, Phoenix.
I got you.
All love.
Everybody's spinning fuego. It's hot fire and I fucking love it, thank you. Everybody's spinning fuego.
It's hot fire, and I fucking love it, my guys.
Guys, go up top.
$100 in sold.
That's almost a whole sold.
Go up there, retweet it.
If you have in the past, un-retweet it, retweet it again.
Why not put it at the top of your timeline?
I'm asking everybody their take.
There's no right or wrong answer it's obviously opinion based unify put your hand down you just got on the speaker panel
we're coming to you we're coming to you don't don't don't switch up the pace of the show
producers are like tony you got this all right anyways um today we're talking
about nfts versus memes and there's no wrong or right answer i'm looking through the comments
let's go to some of the comments and see what some of the takes are and really share uh what
people are seeing and what people are saying right now and we'll get right back into it
lots of people are hyped up lots of people are loving the memes lots of people are saying right now and we'll get right back into it lots of people are hyped up lots of
people are loving the memes lots of people are loving the nfts it's going back and forth right
now gm to everyone meme coins over nfts the pickle rick you got to tell me why brother
why rick come up and state your case nfts from pamisha i agree uh my man brian said nfts people are
shilling me not cool but anyways it is what it is the original what's your take my guy jay pulling
up good to see you my guy jay showing love to all the people that commented on the space if you're
in this space right now and you have an opinion which I'm sure you by now should have an opinion, let us know in the comments.
I will share it up here.
And we want to hear from you.
Anyways, GM in the AM, Unify AI, what's popping?
NFTs or meme coins?
If you could only buy one today, what would you be buying?
GM in the AM, happy Taco Tuesday. Good morning, good morning. It's hard to know if you could only buy one today what would you be buying gm and am happy taco
tuesday good morning good morning it's hard to know if you should raise your hand or not just
trying to be polite appreciate you guys having me up here i think when it comes to meme coins or
nfts follow the data if you're a community quantify that data by engaging bringing your presence
making yourself seen that's something that i would want to put my money into if you're a meme coin make yourself seen hold on the chart make that thing go up
so that you have a good community both in engagement and on the chart and that engagement
is something that can be quantified into metrics and those metrics are what i find sexy and then
on the other hand if you're on nft utility project, there's other ways of looking at it, whether it's art, you know, from a big artist, for example, that could have future value, which is sort of different than a meme coin, or if there's a utility that that's built into it, but find ways for you to stand out and for that information to be quantified into data that can be seen and that's what engagement that's what strong community
is and it applies i think to both the nft and the meme coin market uh that'd be my take on it doodle
where you put in your money though money talks what what are you buying if you had to buy just
one i think i i think i dropped some money in nfts right now i like the
art i'll go with nfts today solid and there's no right or wrong answer if you pick memes i would
have said solid too what do you like best about community that's my follow-up question because
you talked a lot about it and and i agree both both, whether it's a liquidity pool and a chart with a meme token or if it's a non fungible token and a marketplace and people are buying on the secondary.
They need people. The ultimate equation on both ends, the starting point and the equal, you know, ending point is people.
is people. What do you love best about the communities?
What do you love best about the communities?
When it comes to communities, I think the best
that they can do is bring value to the project that they're representing
and they bring value by showing people that this is interesting, this is
exciting, because ultimately anything from the Mona Lisa to some random
NFT, it's not valued until people give it
value. So the job of a community is to give value to what they represent.
That applies to almost anything in life.
I totally agree.
I feel like the art has value itself, but then I also feel like if there's traits, if there's rarities,
then I also feel like if there's trades, if there's rarities, if there's some extra utility,
if the founder is maybe a prominent person in the space or even a public figure,
there's so many fucking variables that people really are unaccounting for when they're purchasing
the NFT and they don't see the value face front. You know, it's hard to see the value sometimes
face front when you're just getting a
jpeg when you complete your transaction on openc or magic eden or wherever you're buying your nfts
but i absolutely agree with your point dude you're another one today absolutely on fire another hot
take check bill we're taking it and we're going baby welcome scott back scotty how you doing brother
doc check you out how you feeling man what's the vitals looking at what's your
blood pressure how many dives did you tell him you take in a week be honest
i'm doing good man hold on just getting some food now on the way back home. But all is good, I think.
So that's good.
God bless, brother.
I would love to see you fucking come back in a crypto fight,
influencer fight, and just call someone else.
Scott always says...
I was a pretty nasty street fighter back in the day
so if i put some training in i could scrap so we almost hyped scott up to joining a muay thai gym
what happened to that you were like so down for that at one point it was in the summer last summer
yeah it was right by it was right by um my place i'm still actually down to uh
you know doing and getting shape and train just for the for the sake of getting you know
in better shape pretty much but as far as fighting you know i don't know we'll see
we'll see what ends up happening you never know you never i'm not gonna rule it out but at the same time you got um
you know i'm not too involved with what's going on at the moment so
my interest is is declined a little bit you know the current situation with all these spicy gms
that you're posting i think the the ladies are fighting over you scott oh yeah he's thirst trapping he's thirst trapping oh it's not even Thursday
what photo did i do now i didn't do anything i just posted a random photo we could tell with
those with those gms especially with those dogs people love their puppies baby i love scott's
dog piper as well too i've seen scott literally travel across the country
to go get her or go get her gmgm yeah i took a i took a flight two hour drive and all that
all right well let's get right back into it we got more amazing people we got hot takes today
guys come up there's no right or wrong answer whether you're a meme lover an nft lover state your case and uh we will show you
some support here today my guy ggm in the am what up g it's been a minute brother nfts or meme
tokens if i had to ask you what you're buying today you could only choose one what would you
be purchasing bro good morning brother yeah it has been a minute man uh good to talk to you um if i had to pick
one definitely uh nfts you know i'm a 2021 baby so that's how i came in the game that's how i'm
leaving the game um but you're still rocking this sense you know how fucking og you are
yeah this is a new one right here, too.
This is the new LARP.
I'm Lord Beerus now.
So, yeah, man, this one was too far.
I had to pick it up.
But speaking of them, just to give a quick, quick, real quick show,
floor price has doubled.
So that's how I know NFT season is coming back,
and it's going to come back strong.
You know, we went from like 0.2 something, 0.23, 2.4.
We were sitting there for a little while, for maybe two, three months.
And that was like the lowest I've seen it, though.
You feel me?
And then we're back up to 0.4, 0.5 range.
And a lot of NFTs, I looked at the charts.
They're kind of, you know, getting some volume and shit.
So I think we're definitely headed back to good hands.
You know, I think a lot of money got made in meme coin season. And just like every cycle, things are going to rotate around.
So I don't know if we're going to get the same cycle, but I think we're definitely going to
have some fun. Hope there's going to be some good new mints out too.
There's definitely going to be some winners this cycle for sure oh and put your hand down my guy
we'll get to you in just one second my follow-up question to that g is nfts and memes just really
thrive on like positive bullish almost cultish communities what do you value most when it comes
to communities whether it be nfts or memes um so one thing i i was uh talking to somebody about that i
realized uh with nfts right like you can't buy a dollar of a ket you know what i'm saying you can't
buy five dollars of a doodle general uh doodle genic but you can buy you have to buy whatever
whatever the price is today is what the price is to get in the club basically right which is all driven by community so it's like with the token uh you know
it's obviously driven by supply you know um who's holding you know majority of the supply things of
that nature tokenomics and stuff and i mean mind you nfts yeah you know you have whales and stuff
too but again at the bottom line is like what what the community the vibe of the
community is you know obviously if it's a low vibe if the vibes are down or the community's bad
there's no depth you know it's gonna the floor price uh floor price will reflect it and you know
and as we saw when things were really popping and things were you know looking like i thought they
had it together you know what i mean like you know bro these things were going for a hundred
i mean hundred soul at one point you know d guys were going for 800 Like, you know, bro, these things were going for $100. I mean, 100 sold at one point, you know, D-Gods were going for 800 sold.
Like, you know, thank God, you know, thank God people got, you know,
people are getting chances to get back in now.
But you'd be crazy if you don't think they're going to at least do 25% back.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's going to be a bounce back.
You know, Gary V was just talking about NFTs the other day.
You feel me?
I haven't seen that man talk about NFTs in years.
So you know how that goes. You feel me? You could't seen that man talk about NFTs in years. So you know how that goes.
You feel me?
You could just pay attention to the signs.
You pay attention to the vibes.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
But, like, I'm seeing on the algorithm, you know what I mean?
So, like, if you just, you know, can sense what's going on, you know,
I think, you know, and stick with what you know, you know what I mean?
If you've already been loyal to a community, if you've got a couple,
buy some more, you know, help that floor price. And then, you know, If you've already been loyal to a community, if you've got a couple, buy some more. Help that floor price.
Then you guys control
the vibes.
My thing with memes
though, bro, I love memes.
I feel like they're great and we need them.
I just hate the
way that it is, bro. The casino
is not fair, bro.
You feel me?
It's just fucked it's fucked up.
You know what I'm saying?
So I feel like until we can figure out a way
to make the casino a little bit better,
you know, it's a casino, don't get me wrong.
But at the end of the day, bro, the way it is,
it can't go like this forever.
You feel me?
There's got to get, something's got to happen.
I'm not saying like in a regulation standpoint,
but you feel me?
I just saw it was saying that like a certain percentage of these tokens that launch, you know, are bots.
And it's like by certain wallets, bro, they've launched hundreds of tokens.
You feel me?
And there's thousands of wallets that do this.
So it's like, come on, bro.
You know, these people are just it's rigged against you, bro.
Like, but I don't know.
NFTs.
That's my bottom line.
Big facts, bro.
Big facts.
No, everybody's coming up with hot takes.
I'm not here to disagree or challenge people's opinions.
I think you guys are all bringing up really valid things.
Never quit on it.
You know, especially if you're here and things have been a little bit challenging.
You know, maybe you didn't get the right taste of success right off the start. Maybe things
haven't just fell into place or in your way, in your favor at this moment just don't quit on it this is just an
entirely new space governments treasuries politics etfs wall street are all just coming in just now
this is like the 2017 like bull market for them and they're going to go through some cycles as
well too we may not see more aggressive bear markets or maybe after this cycle or the next cycle or two we may not see more
aggressive bull markets things may stabilize with crypto prices people were crying yesterday when
tesla was down seven percent dude solana falls seven percent i lick my chops and i'm ready to buy
you know and i think that a lot of people are
seeing that crypto could be a means to an end or it could be even a way just to get ahead and beat
the system let's face it fiat currency today is absolutely worthless with governments having no
limits almost to how much money they can print and the fed lowering the uh the interest rate we're gonna see a lot
of money being printed especially in the us and i think that that's gonna be a global trend which
is only gonna bring more actual um is only gonna bring more actual volume to crypto as well as like
commodities like gold and silver but let's hear from some more amazing speakers here today.
I don't know if Owen's still around or he decided to slide out.
Doesn't look like he's here, but.
Owen said he ain't got time for that.
Yeah, he said he ain't got time to wait 30 seconds.
Dude, don't go that far just to come that far, bro.
Dude, don't go that far just to come that far, bro.
It's like leaving the diamond mine two feet short of finding the biggest carrot fucking diamond you've ever found in your life.
And that's sad because I liked his NFT too.
I was going to ask him what it was.
Oh, he's back.
He's back.
Okay.
He's back.
There we go.
See, he didn't give up on it.
There we go.
It's not a quitter.
I like that.
Owen.
Owens.
Owens, did you come up to Engagement Farm or to rug me? Owens.
Yo, yo, yo. Good morning, guys. Sorry my connection been having.
Oh, you're good, have the same question for yourself brother nfts or meme coins it's a
challenging question if you could only buy one today in about a minute tell us which one you
favor bro all right okay um that is actually a very tricky question because I love boats I love like a fucking love NFTs man like right now I'm rocking a metal warriors
NFP was our SPF and PFU right now
Yeah, well I I'm gonna go with meme coins with this one cuz if I'm picking between the two I'm rolling in main coins
Mean coins are like're cheap to get in
to it's like snagging the front of it um to a hype train i don't know if you're
it's where the vibes are like don't want to change in one you can ride with
meme coins that's just the truth but nfts on the other hand nfts they can be really pricey at times
i don't know if you know
what i mean they're like most of them are like really really expensive really really expensive
so like meme coins are something that's easy to just cash into make a whole lot of money
i know that even though we know it's a wild casino but but still not everyone can afford an nft
you get what i mean right oh absolutely get what you mean does it make you want to value
or buy those nfts more after you make some money on the memes oh hell yeah bro i'm damn into nft
Well, it sounds like you're a little bit split and there's nothing wrong with that.
well it sounds like you're a little bit split and there's nothing wrong with that
But he said he'll go with memes.
Okay, that's fine.
My second follow up question is this.
A lot of these communities really strive on community support, just on people.
So Owen, what do you think is the best quality or best trait of a community?
I think it's
all about
engagement.
He's rugged for me now.
Come again.
Give us a hot take, brother. Go ahead. Try again.
I feel like it's all about
community
engagement because, you know, most of all
this
meme
we lost them.
Community engagement is huge. i really agree with that whether it be on the meme side or
whether it be on the nft side if people don't want to rock the art if people don't want to
share the funny ass memes and just continue to create with that ip or that character or that
image it's going to be difficult difficult to see any success if you
look at some of the most successful memes like the the shiba token doge if you look at even uh
shib if you look at pepe these were like memes that are iconic on the internet they have a social phenomenon on all sorts of social platforms whether it's
tick tock instagram facebook twitter x whatever you want to call it and everything in between
so i think like that's the reason why some of those meme tokens just popped off
like scott mentioned in the beginning of the space we haven't seen as many tokens hit that 100 million hat like we've seen in the early 2023
2024 when pumped off fun was new now we're seeing bonk come out okay cool we're seeing some tokens
run we're not seeing that same kind of liquidity in that volume um and we're not seeing the same
kind of volume with meme with nfts. They've become almost an absolute asset.
And when you reply on some of these bigger comments or posts, people are like, oh, let's all troll the NFT guy.
I still believe in it.
I don't care how unpopular or unfavorable NFTs will ever become.
I'm still going to be 100% biased to NFTs over meme coins.
And not because I don't like meme coins or anything of that nature i think that there's a lot of successful ones and there are a lot of
successful projects that have meme coins and now more than ever we're seeing a hybrid of both meme
and nft tokens and it's gone so far to 404 nfts which essentially are a liquid nft almost a meme it's just a jpeg
backed with a liquidity pool what to me is pretty much a classified meme um so the blend of
everything is getting really really fine right now and i think that these two become one category at
some point i think that you know we're just gonna categorize categorize
these all as like creator tokens or community tokens some of them are going to have utilities
like alts some of them are not some of them are just going to serve for liquidity purposes and
pfps and some of them are going to serve for art but i don't think that these things will
ever die i think they're in woven in the crypto ecosystem i'm going to ask the question this is my follow
final follow-up question and we're going to go around the room anybody that wants to have a hot
take we've been getting an amazing takes here all day guys retweet this space do you think that
either of these nft or memes in the future ever fade away in people's interest or
ever potentially die phoenix crypto and i'm going to go around the room we just started this space
with scott we'll end it with you and we're going to get everybody's opinion before we wrap this
space up and then get an opinion from the audience back to you phoenix What do you think? Do means or NFTs ever die?
Well, I spoke earlier about it and I agree with you that NFTs have intrinsic value and they've become a fabric of the ecosystem.
And they're here to stay because they are intrinsically art and art has always had a place here.
So I think NFTs will always have a place here since they are art and I think there is a potential for meme coins to eventually fade away because when I think
about meme coins sometimes I think about this term there's a legal term called attractive nuisance
and this means from a legal point of view it's a dangerous condition or an object on a property
that attracts and entices a child to interact with it and it poses a risk of any injury and harm.
And the owner of the property is liable even if the child trespasses, climbs over a fence,
isn't supposed to be there. The owner are still liable because of its attractiveness
its enticement to the child so that's what i think about within it with mean points sometimes that
it's an attractive nuisance and maybe eventually the sec might step in to say hey these things are so
attractive to uninformed retail investors that we might have to step in and put some guidelines
and guardrails in place. So maybe that's a reason for mean claims to eventually fade away
because of the risk might outweigh the benefit, the harm might outweigh the benefit to investors as a whole.
benefit the harm might outweigh the benefit and to investors as a whole
very interesting take i like that i feel a little bit enlightened phoenix is on
on her way to 10k hot take phoenix i love the alpha thank you for sharing that
it just opened up my mind in so many different directions
um no follow-up from me but i just want to say great take and just makes us think food for
thought where the market is actually going where speculation is going and are these are these
projects potentially harmful and unappealing to investors you're absolutely right scott let's uh
pose the same question to you it's a challenging one do you think nfts or memes ever just fade away completely
not at all why is that if anything they just develop i mean memes will always stay memes you
know you're always going to have people joking clowning around whether it continues in the form
of tokenization or develops into you know
something else we don't know the way things will go um you know very possible uh nfts
got those two we're gonna see utility come out of nfts that we we haven't even thought about yet
uh of way they're gonna get incorporation so I think they're going to grow as far as nfts
as far as art art's not going anywhere it's been here since the beginning of time and it's just
had different mediums of displaying you know whether it's on cave walls or on canvas or on
paper or on you know whatever what's the difference digital and then what's the next i mean who knows
10 years from now we could be in
whatever the next version of a space is on this platform collecting nfts which are holographic
holograms you know we could have nfts that are literally 3d hologram art that people are creating
that that replace sculptures essentially like digital sculptures i mean who knows you know
like that's the thing is that it's going to be
amazing to see where it's going.
And I think both will have their, their place and their, and their, you know,
their, uh, they'll be included in just the way to develop is going to be, is
going to be what's amazing and who's going to be on the forefront of that,
pushing that to the, you know, to the next stage.
Hot take, bro.
Take it and go, Scott.
Just take it and go, baby.
You're absolutely right.
You guys are all coming in heavy with these takes.
You guys must have been in some taco with some
oh we tabasco sauce in it or something smell your breasts they're hot i'm eating texas peat hot sauce right now oh that's my favorite great nothing else just hot sauce oh oh my god thank
you what's the no what's the commercial i love that one hot sauce. Oh, my God. Take it. What's the commercial?
I love the commercial of that one hot sauce where they say they put it on.
I put that shit on everything.
It's Frank's, bro.
I love that commercial.
Oh, that's Frank's.
Yeah.
I don't fucking know.
I'm in Texas.
We have all sorts of shit when it comes to hot sauce.
There's like eight billion.
Yeah, there's lots of songs.
But anyways, let's stay focused. We got to wrap this show up in due time but i want to say gmgm to everybody that's tapped
into the space we had an awesome conversation about nfts and meme tokens we took it a step
further and tapped into some of the successful traits and qualities both these assets these digital currencies these digital
non-fungible jpegs have and it's been pretty cool to hear everybody's topic my question that i have
to wrap up the space is and this is for everybody if you're in the listeners please hit that request
button or click on the purple button and give us an opinion do you think nfts or
or meme tokens ever just fade away in crypto do they ever just completely die does the meta and
the narrative and the sentiment here with communities just fade away and our attention
and our currency and our rotation happens to be another asset class other than nfts and memes
guys put your hands down we got a cue we're getting to everybody i want to get to mike mike
i asked that challenging question to you do you think nfts or memes ever die
actually i completely think the opposite about them dying i think they're actually gonna um
think the opposite about them dying i think they're actually gonna um they're gonna get bigger
as the space gets bigger bro as more normies come in i was actually just thinking about this when
you're asking the question um i honestly think that if you put it in a perspective an older
elderly person that's more into traditional stocks or investing, they're probably going to look more towards NFTs or ETFs
or something that has more in quote-unquote realistic value, right?
But then you look at the memes, bro, and you think,
okay, a younger, I wouldn't say a kid or just a younger adult in general,
they're going to probably get onboarded from memes.
That's probably how the majority of people get into crypto is through memes.
Besides, you know, a blessing if you have someone that's nice enough to be like,
hey, you should invest into a blue chip and like, here's what I think you should invest into.
Kind of like what happened to me.
I had someone tell me that he was an older person, he saw the value in crypto when he he left the stocks he left the stock market and came to crypto
so i think that in a sense bro i think that everything is going to stay around and it's
going to get bigger there just might be different ways um that meme coins might actually be used
uh you know who's to say that meme coins the ones
that are dead right now what if some of them actually come back you know like there's a
question of that too just you know there's there's a there's a lot of things of what is
this was the biggest cycle that ctos actually were successful in the past have never worked
so you're absolutely right people do do revive tokens and NFTs and transfer ownerships of smart contracts and wallets and IPs and all sorts of shit.
I've seen it, bro.
People want me to take over some deadass collections.
I'm like, bro, I can't do it.
People want me to show some deadass fucking memes.
I can't do it.
I just don't have the time because everybody's on the same 24 hours.
I got, you know, priorities here that I got to fucking abide by and I got to make happen
for our community, for myself, for my well-being, for my future.
A lot of reasons.
But no, I totally agree.
I don't think that they're going to die.
I'm very neutral on this. I want to hear from other people's take as well, too. Jessica, we'll go to you. Then we'll go to G. We'll go to Unify. We'll go to Crypto Fight Club. We'll go to Crypto Cam. We'll go to our new speaker, Kadradian. I don't know. That's a tricky name. I'll try to get that right. But Jessica, let's hear your take on it. Do you think memes and NFTs ever die?
No, I don't think they ever going to die. And both Phoenix and Scott and Mike had good
takes on it. And I don't think we can predict how it's going to be in the future because it's evolved so fast.
And I just think about all the people I know here.
In Sweden, we are way back on both crypto and NFT.
So when I speak about it, people just look at me as I'm an alien.
people just look at me as i'm an alien and when people get to know that you can invest and go from
the stock market to crypto then it will evolve any further so no i don't think any one of them will die
ever i love that great take
i love that great take
all day let's keep it rolling the success is flowing i love in the conversation guys retweet
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this week we get to announce it in the space who's our winner and believe me phoenix will chase you
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make sure that you engage with it at the top g give us here a take bro do you think nfts or memes
ever die and if so what reason would it be no no i don't think they're gonna die um uh like dab was
saying uh if anything they just evolve uh one thing I was thinking about while I was listening to everybody give their take was that, you know,
this is such a new meta, bro. You know, we haven't even had the chance to pass these on to our kids.
You know what I mean? So, you know, you look at other assets that were non-digital that, you know,
whether it be like playing cards or Hot Wheels, whatever you want to call it you know uh action figures things like that things
that were able to stand the test of time and you see the value they hold you know comic books things
like that you know these haven't even gotten the opportunity to stand that test of time so now i
don't think they're gonna die uh if they did it would only have to be because of like some kind of
you know global catastrophe some kind of uh black swan event like mass black swan event you know uh
solar flare you know and and you know apocalypse yeah yeah they got their white gold grid but
other than that nah man we're cooling you know and like i said once you once once you know who's
to say we're going to be 50 years old i want to be sitting on spaces and shit but hey it's like
you know you might be able to pass some of these down to your kid, you know, and now he's rocking it or whatever, you know.
And now, like I said, these are assets.
You know, people got to realize that these are digital assets at the end of the day.
Correct.
Dude, I'm going to be 50 sitting on spaces soon.
Yeah, I'm just, I'm 31, so I just was like bullshit.
But, you know, that's what I'm saying. Like, who knows? So what? So what, Scott? just 31, so I just was like bullshit. But you know, you know what I'm saying?
Who knows? So what?
So what, Scott?
There's no age limit to this.
I'm 50 owning Twitter.
Elon's
going to move over for me.
There's no age limit to this, though.
Elon's going to be my business partner in a few
years. It's all good. I'll be sitting on spaces
making sure they're working. That's the bottom line. That's the bottom line, baby. That's going to be my business partner in a few years. It's all good. I'll be sitting on spaces making sure they're working. That's the bottom
line. That's the bottom line,
baby. And that's the bottom.
Man, did he show up today?
We all tagged him, bro.
He's sleeping. I always drop the
link to the space in his post.
So I can get him in here.
One thing that I want to
comment on, and this kind of brought
me to
kind of, gee, you brought it to my
mind bro to the forefront this is how i see nfts and memes and i know we're kind of over it but i
just want to give a final take it's like take you back to the blacktop days when you had collectible
trading cards and that could be anything or even toys and that could be anything if you had an abundant amount of a
certain card or a certain trading card or even collectible if you were making homies you would
be giving those things out and sometimes i would give out some cards some pokemon cards some sports
cards to some of the homies if i ever knew that my six-year-old friend Jimmy fucking sold that fucking Charizard or fucking Yu-Gi-Oh card or fucking baseball card at the trading card shop or at the pawn shop, he would have a black eye.
He would need a chili ice pack for his left eye, like Drake said.
Straight up, Mike.
Why?
Because he would never do that.
Our friendship would be in jeopardy after that.
There was no way that we're like staying friends.
And that's like an absolute fact.
And I feel like that's almost the same thing that we have more so with NFTs.
You give people NFTs, they're more bound to kind of hold it and huddle it and be a part of the community
and remain a friend and like an ally in the crypto space
versus like even if you give somebody a hundred dollars worth of the token what do you think
they're gonna do they're gonna dunk 50 to 100 of it and they're never gonna see your pfp again bro
you're gonna be like yo what happened to that guy or girl they're just gonna be like
crickets
take anyways let's keep it circling let's go around the the room crypto
fight club the official fight club what's your take do you think NFTs or
memes ever die no I'm never never why so I mean maybe specific ones but i mean you know it's it's people are gonna
always find the reasons um and you know i i even when um even when like the the meme coin market
is is like it is right now there's going to be still people buying poll tabs
you know what i mean and it's it's just the way it is uh uh and you know good projects will be
out there they'll survive they'll figure out something to do um to make it more than that
but like you know there's i you see people walking into the gas station and buying lottery tickets every day.
And this is, you know, meme coins.
It's just that it's our generation of doing that same exact thing.
And I'll be buying lottery tickets until I'm 95 years old and can find my wallet.
You know?
So no, I don't think it's everything.
I watch the movie on these things it's like always the population that is like the least wealthiest that buy lottery tickets and i'm guilty but i stopped
buying lottery tickets from time to from time to time i like those like just for life scratch
tickets because sometimes you actually win i always win like 16 bucks and it
pays for itself but i never win the fucking life yeah i i had a guy i actually seldom buy lottery
tickets you know i just i'll keep buying you know meme coins and nfts and stuff you know that's my
version of buying lottery tickets but you got on a food truck
yeah you're in you said you're in the like mobile service business no no no i i think you have me
confused servicing about mechanics like people's actual like vehicles is that what you do no no
No, no, no. I think you're confusing me with somebody else.
no i think i think you're confusing me with somebody else
No, you told me you were going to make the app and shit yesterday.
I'm not that confused. I know I'm high, but I'm not that confused.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not in the mobile. I actually work for the government.
I got you. Don't dox it. Don't dox it. No need. No need.
We don't want fucking Trump executives out here listening and being like,
cut the government workers.
Fuck you, Trump.
We're not cutting anybody.
All right?
We need a roster of people.
This is a community, bro.
And what about the essential people?
What about the people that actually serve a huge purpose for the country?
You guys want to just cut those people and say,
fuck those people because they made a doge in a department?
Fuck that shit, man.
There's a lot of people that deserve raises, bro.
And the government doesn't even give a 5% raise and inflation's at like 15 to 20, Donald Trump said.
So I got a lot of respect for all the people that are working right now.
Any 9 to 5, mining that fiat currency and bringing it over to
the blockchain baby starting liquidity pools that's what the fuck we're doing baby we're winning
they're sleeping we're working we're winning period and that's the bottom line. That's the bottom line. And that's the bottom line.
I never said it before.
I had to get mine in.
And that's the bottom line.
Man, today there is mad fucking people asking for money in comments.
They helped me.
Help my family.
Help me.
Fuck.
What is it?
It's Thirsty Tuesday?
Yeah. I think so like i i don't know if it's if it's something going on but in the last couple days uh something's hitting different i'm getting all the
same people that i used to get you know like promoters all that stuff hitting me up in the
dms and it's it's been rampant the last few days i don't know i don't know what's
going on yeah i ain't giving anybody money all right no they're not getting the time
i keep on my fucking buddy no handouts diamond hands go earn it that's it win a giveaway earn
it show up, be active.
No hands out.
G, do you have a follow-up?
And then we'll get to the next person.
Back to you, brother.
Yeah, nah.
Well, it kind of was a question for you in a sense.
But if you're going to ask some more people, I don't want to, you know, I can save it for the end, you know, for when you're all done.
No, go ahead.
Okay, so my thing was like, you know, you, you know,
I know we talk a lot about the meme trading and stuff,
but what about like, you know, I'm a, I'm a leverage, a perpetrator.
So it's like, what about if meme coins were to die
or to lose a lot of a mind share or market value?
I believe maybe that might bring, you know,
more people over back into, you know, centralized trading and stuff. If you have the regulations crack down over there bring you know more people over back into you know centralized
trading and stuff if the regulations crack down over there you know what i mean because people
are going to want to trade regardless you know because i mean i like i personally i trade memes
but i trade memes that are like on on my exchanges and stuff you know i trade memes with leverage i
don't buy memes and you know try to i've tried that and just you know wasn't net positive for
me had good days more bad days so
but i've had better days just trading them on on like bluffing you know what i'm saying trading
gold or whatever with like 10x or some shit like that you know i'm saying and using ta because
they're on there they're obviously being traded algorithmically and like that so you can chart
those and kind of you know just trade them instead of having to buy them and hold them and shilling
them and doing all this you know that kind of kind of shit. So my question is, do you think that trading in itself, you know, will go anywhere in that case?
Because if memes die, you know, where else would they go?
I love the take.
Absolutely love the take.
I'm a big perps trader as well, too.
I've been giving out some signals um to my sub sub
subscribers here on x and they've been doing pretty well um yeah i love it i've been having
a positive net pl for the last three months we've only been standing on business and giving out some
really solid trades with low leverage really higher collateral but we'll save it for another
space i want to wrap this thing up with
nfts and means i appreciate you g coming to some of these late night spaces or some of these spaces
on thursday and tuesdays and we're trading definitely um live which is awesome let's say
what's up the crypto cram cam gmgm taco tuesday my guy will nfts and memes ever die or do you
believe that they're enwoven in the
crypto ecosystem forever and tell us why what's your take my brother good to see you back my bro
it's been a minute yes sir it's been too long about about a month now man three weeks to a month
i had to take a step back you know what i mean we got to do that every now and then take a step back
just to reevaluate you know or get a new perspective on our life and our surroundings.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just advise everybody to do that every once in a while.
And, gee, yo, bro, I'm 50 on Spaces, bro.
Come on.
I just had my birthday.
You know what I'm saying?
It's okay.
It was a bad analogy after I said it.
I was like, damn.
Crypto Grandpa in the house baby okay but
anyway nfts and meme coins i don't think they're ever going to go away completely uh somebody's
take earlier said you know as we have all these you know new normies coming in it's going to be
a hype for them people are going to push into them them. More conservative, older heads like myself are going to look at them,
look into more traditional methods of investments.
NFTs seem to be a little more secure.
They're more traditional what we're used to as far as stocks and savings bonds and stuff like that.
We're used to putting our money into something and just let it sit and only getting a few points off of it right so if we can put our money into nft and
we know you know it's it's got a little hype to it it's going to go up you know more than two percent
a year then that seems good to us because we're old heads you know i mean whereas a lot of a lot
of y'all younger cats you know you're on this quick move quick pace fast pace you know what i'm saying you know hustle and grind you know run around shoot you know respawn and shit you know
what i'm saying uh you know y'all are a bit you know more on the mean coins you know for that that
more fast-paced hype you know so i don't think it'll ever go away i think it will change a little
bit you know you'll see we'll see an evolution in how they're going about.
We'll also see a, you know, a revival,
like you said, of some older things.
You know, people coming in, CTOing,
you know, resurrecting things.
I also think, though, one thing I do think
is I think a lot of our NFTs
that maybe we're just like, you know,
we consider just shitty project
or rug projects.
I think like I've got a granddaughter, right?
She's three years old.
I think by the time she turns 18,
I think that all my NFTs that I purchased
back in 2001 or whatever, 2002,
all those early years,
I think they're all going to be worth a lot, regardless of
what the project is, just because of the blockchain.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You said the word all.
I don't think all, but I think some.
Some, some, some.
But I'm just saying, I think because of the date things were minted on the blockchain,
that is going to have an effect on the
price of that nft also what that project did historically even if it's not around in 15 years
you know
did he get rugged
yeah i think so no i'm not here to challenge you cam i agree with you i think
that a lot of the nfts purchased and rented in the past especially ones on ordinals will become
super prominent and i think the value will definitely be there um i don't think that
nfts or memes will die but that's just my personal opinion
come up give us a take as well too we would love to hear from new speakers
a a katradian how do i say your name my guy this is a challenge the tongue twister
i know i know that's what you said uh i think that's what you said around August last year when we first met.
It was about July, August. Yeah, we had the same conversation. It was like, what the fuck is your name?
And I was like, ah, you know, I'm just trying to make it memorable. You didn't remember it. It didn't work. I'm so fucked.
Darn it. How's it going, Doodle?
It's going great. It's going great. You got to get me right, bro i gotta i gotta say it right i gotta see it right what is it pronounced
uh yeah no dude it's our uh arcadian it's arcadian okay so i was closer this time right
no you're doing good you're doing good yeah um you were like person number two that I'd met on X
because I was super new to it.
Yourself, an NFT kid, Keith.
Remember, I came in, bought some bread gold.
And I think that answers my question to answer your question is,
is uh nah these things they're not gonna die because they're part of our history you know
no, these things, they're not going to die
because they're part of our history.
like uh super mario brothers tetris you know they're they're forming this this kind of neural
pathway in in all of us and then one day we look back at these meme cultures and etc as we one day
revive them with more meanings but you revive the community with it so you know I
think that's that's what's what's magical about it is you take away the
fuzz and the noise and oh great well the meme went up and then it just did just
fucking died but it didn't really die because it's part of our history we get
to look back at what we did one day or we give it meaning one day.
I don't know.
You know, I don't know everything.
All I know is I had a lot of fun.
I'm going to look forward to having more fun.
I think both are very fun.
I think both are very fun.
My follow-up question is, and we've talked about this a little bit earlier
you kind of missed out on this in the space but that's okay both of these mechanics and these
assets really thrive off just community support people right whether you're speculative whether
you think the value is tangible or non-tangible, you know, people are the one that give it value, whether they're holding the floor or buying more up of either asset.
What do you value most when it comes to community?
It's just got to be the vibe and the way that these project leaders or meme leaders or whichever the project is is how they connect with
the with the with their people with their teams of people and how well they know them how well
they know each other so you know uh when devs take time and care to learn about who is in their
community with them and what they go through like that stuff becomes irreplaceable. And not just that, but there's a lot of value in the NFTs and the meme coins right now.
The fact that businesses out in Web 2 are struggling, you know, they're struggling because
the, you know, the whales out there that command the social media, they command the social
media.
So the smaller businesses are really struggling.
And if they could see what's really happening out here in Web3,
if they could say, well, hey, we've got a product and we want to add,
we want to sell our product here into these communities,
but we want to give equity from our models to back up these tokens,
there's a lot of value they can get because they get to they get to acquire pre-made pre-validated
markets you know uh doodle like you know how many how many holders did brett gold have at one time
or or you know at the end um and still might have in the future and somebody that that could come
in here and just give it some revival and a reason to boost that LP could acquire these, these meme coin communities.
So there's value both ways.
Like this thing can track any which way.
And I just reckon if people really figure this out, like Elon,
you're in trouble, buddy, you know, you're not going to, you, you,
you got there, you got big and it's all good, but you know,
what's the next big thing? Oh, just for the record, I don't think it's easy to bring Elon off that pedestal
I mean the guy owns a piece of communication
Like communication is the biggest industry in the world. It's overlooked, but I mean here we are
communicating
This is what we pay for our blue ticks for
Well since that you just came back and you're fresh
i'm going to give you some insight and some alpha i agree i think the communication market is huge
and i also think analytics and data is really like super important for all sorts of reasons
especially if you're a creator here especially if you're a business there is like over 400 million people
in the crater business entrepreneur reply guy and crypto market that all pay X for a blue or yellow
check to get analytics on their account and I saw this as a big opportunity and I developed my own
app based off the X API so it's an
app that works with X and you have to log in with X that's the original
starting point for users and then once you get in X will calculate a social
score for you tell you your engagement rate based off of your last posts so you
actually will know on average how many likes retweets replies impressions you will
get on your posts the social score gets calculated by a variable amount of
things I'm not going to get into it then you have goals tracking and
monetization you have a content creator that helps you create tweets I've
trained a model on open AI with over 10,000 tweets to help you guys create
Really high quality tweets that I know the algorithm is gonna just engage with I know the algorithm is gonna boost and just push and people
Already just in the last like 16 to 17 days with a 31 creators that are signed up for the app
Have generated over 2,000 tweets some of these tweets have gone 2 000 tweets some of these tweets have gone
in extremely viral some of these tweets have gotten over five thousand to ten thousand tweet
uh impressions which is amazing so i can't wait to see more people get monetized shout out to
people like dr soli scott heat ten percent of the creators that got signed up already to the app
within less than 10 days to 14 days have all
been monetized, which is amazing. And we're going to continue pushing. And other people are close.
They're racking up millions of impressions. They're getting, you know, the right people
engage with their profile in those conversations. And basically the app goes live September 1st
publicly. It's going to be $29 on on a subscription base you can turn the app off
and on as much as you want to use it for that 29 or decide to use it months and not others but
right now we're giving lifetime access of the app for 200 you'll never have to pay a subscription fee
you guys get grandfathered into the access of the app two out of the five features are fully functional right now
Once you sign up. We also have an engagement group. We got 30 amazing creators that are all pushing for monetization
Some of them are ready monetize just crushing it
Super helpful when it comes to building up social presence a brand and also engagement on your posts
building up social presence, a brand, and also engagement on your posts.
Once we start getting to 50 and closing the group,
we're going to start running some really cool raids
and just making sure everybody is on track to hit that monetization.
There's nothing I would rather have than 100% of the people that signed up
getting monetized within the 90 days or 60 days we have
before we publicly launched this app
you can go to monetize on X right now sign up with Apple pay Google pay
whatever you want you could also send $200 USDC or Solana to me just send me
a DM and I'll be happy to send you that wallet but I'm excited and just fucking
gas to see people like Scott and Soli start earning bread. And Scott, on his last check, even pulled in more for creator ads than myself.
And I have a much larger account, and I've been here with my account for far more years.
So it just shows you that the proof is within the pudding.
The results are truly there.
You can speak to people like Phoenix and Jessica, Dr. Soli, Rob, JT, lots of people from the community.
It didn't take me years to develop the app.
I've used AI.
I've used X.
I've used databases.
And it's super safe to connect because it's built through X.
You're not going to get compromised or anything.
And this is something that I'm super excited for.
I think this is going to be a a breakthrough not only for people in the crypto
community but other communities we had already traders and real estate agents
all inquire about the app and wanting to get invested some of those traders
actually did for sports so it's cool to see the growth of it and I'll pin up a
live demo of it right now and it just shows you how you can
actually go into the app very quickly create some content or some tweets that
are viral within like literally seconds or minutes and if you're not satisfied
with them just regenerate them or edit them to your liking you'll be able to
post directly from the app just alone that feature I think it's worth the $29
a month cuz that's the
bottom line baby we summon the man the myth the legend himself we must he must
have saw the space in his tagged mentions on his post the one and only my tag team
partner in crime bring them up bring them up thewler. Steve, how you doing, man?
It's good to have you up here.
I know you're going to rock this space because that's the bottom line, brother.
GMGM, Big Papa Steve, what's going on?
Brooklyn Brawler, how you feeling?
What's going on, brother?
Today is the first day of everybody's rest of their life.
I want everybody to get fired up and get all motivated to realize you can do anything you want and no one could ever stop you.
Because, Doodle, you are the man.
Let me tell you something.
You got a great host.
And I'm telling you right now, the accomplishments are limitless.
Your only limit is you.
Don't let anyone tell you you can't do anything.
You can't be the man that never gives up.
And everyone in this space has got that same mentality. The mentality of you can do anything you want.
And that's the bottom line. Take my catchphrase, which I took from Stone Cold Steve Austin. It's all good, brother. Everything.
Goals keep me going in life and it can keep you all going. Dreams do come true. Everyone in this
space has a unique contribution in life. Everyone in this space has a unique contribution in life.
Everyone in this space has got greatness in them.
Everyone in this space has to take an example of the host and listen to what I'm saying.
Make a goal.
Believe in a goal with all your heart and soul.
And that's the bottom line, brother.
That is the bottom line.
And when it comes to passion, watch out.
It's like a rocket ship on your back.
You can go anywhere you want.
And there's going to be a lot of haters.
A lot of haters are going to tell you, you're never going to do it.
They told me, you'll never become a wrestler.
It's ridiculous.
It's the dumbest idea in the world.
And I said, oh, yeah?
Watch me.
Your name is...
Oh, my God.
Brooklyn Brawler.
Brooklyn Brawler. Dude, pin the comment. Pin the is... Oh my god. Brooklyn Brawler. Doodle. Brooklyn Brawler.
Dude, pin the comment.
Look at this. Look what Daba did, bro.
Look at the
Jumbo shot. It's the fucking Doodle
Brawler.
Or the Brooklyn Doodle.
It could be the Brooklyn Doodle or the Doodle
Brawler. Pin it.
It's Brooklyn Doodle.
The Doodle and Brooklyn Brawler are tag team partners
because we think alike daba you're right behind us you know what i believe in you with all my
heart and soul i believe in everyone in this space because everyone in this space does not realize
that they have the potential to do anything and everything they want in life you cannot beat
someone that never gives up dreams do come true if you never give up i don't care what the dream is
because everybody in this space has a dream turn it into a goal don't even call it a goal call it a
plan call it a plan because you're going to make it
happen. There's no way.
There's no way. Steve, I've always
dreamed about launching an application,
bro, and I did my first
application in here in Thailand
in the silence because
my family, being Italian,
you know how they are. Get a job,
work for the union, you know, think about
attention. It's all bullshit. As an entrepreneur, You know how they are get a job work for the union, you know, think about
It's all bullshit as an entrepreneur as a wrestler That's not what you want to hear and that's not very supportive. So I came here in Thailand dude
I list I'm in silence for 12 13 hours a day
It gives me the opportunity to see my dreams out to fulfill them to chase them
So I've always wanted to launch a software company in my own application I finally got to do that and I've never gave up
and I'm still developing now you know I don't have all the answers or all the
code but guess what it continues to come to me and I swear to God Steve I had a
dream yesterday that me and a community member like broke through.
And guess what happened?
I went to code some shit today and everything was just working for me flawlessly.
It's like coming off the ropes with extra motivation, baby.
You're flying off the top a little bit higher.
So, you know, you just got to focus.
You got it.
And sometimes you can't tell everybody your dreams because not everybody's going to support it.
Like you said, not everybody's warrant to know the final destination or the bigger vision.
Don't tell them your dreams.
Show them your dreams.
Show them.
Exactly.
I love that.
Let them see it.
Let them see it.
Exactly.
Everyone in this space has a dream. Every in this space has a dream.
Every person on Earth has a dream.
The only difference is some believe in him and some don't.
And that's the bottom line.
I can't get that out of my head because that is the bottom line.
No, we've been saying it.
Davito has been saying it.
Sully has been saying it.
I've been saying it.
Phoenix has been saying it.
It summons you, bro. It literally
summons you. Yeah, have you guys seen the Jumbotron?
Steve, look at the
Jumbotron. You'll be amazed.
What do you mean? The top?
Yeah, the top. Look at the picture.
Yeah. What do you do? Click it?
Click it, yeah.
I'm clicking it and nothing's happening.
The very top. You see the picture? Swipe tapping the very top you see the picture swipe it to the
left bro swipe it to the doodle brawler i can't see no picture at the very very top it's a picture
it looks like you but it oh that's it yeah that's click on it i see the picture i see the picture
you know who that is you know the brooklynler? That's me. That's me and you combined.
Scott fucking put my face on you, bro.
Fucking Dabo.
We got to do it, brother.
You haven't even scratched the surface.
I wish everyone in this space would grasp what I'm saying.
Could you imagine all these people in the space becoming successful?
Please.
That's what I'm doing with Monetize on X.
So basically, X pays you when your content is slapping,
meaning that you get a certain amount of impressions.
People see your content quite frequently.
And now Dabitola got monetized.
X paid him like 400 bucks last week.
How do you do that you have to hit 5 million
impressions in 90 days well i don't know if i did that you know i probably i'll know how i'll know
how you i gotta get on a call with you steve i gotta show you what's up man yeah yeah which
you know i you know I almost died yesterday.
God bless your soul.
Don't say that.
No, you know what happened?
My wife was washing the floors.
I took a slip in my eye.
Eighth of an inch above my eye.
Got ripped open.
Blood everywhere.
Oh, my God, bro.
And I was either going to go blind.
If I hit my temple, I would have been dead.
And if I would have been dead,
I would have came back to this space.
I would have came to your fucking funeral,
no matter where it is.
You know what?
And I want to speak.
I want to be able to speak there as well, too.
Not just be a fucking muggle in the crowd like a fucking extra, you know?
Right.
I'm not an NPC.
I'm a real main character, you know, with you, Brooklyn.
That's it, brother.
You and Keith.
Where's Keith?
Sleeping?
It's a little bit early on the other side of the world, but he's getting up.
He should be up here.
I've sent him a message of the space.
We summoned you. We can summon Keith.
It's called Positive Manifestation.
That's right. Positive
goes to positive.
Positive. I want to feel
all the space, people. Let's see
if they can give me hundreds. Gee, this is the real
Brooklyn Brawler, bro.
Yo. Yo, can I...
Ask him a question. ask him a question go
ahead like as a as a lifelong wwe fan just wrestling in general bro it's an honor to be
in the same space with you um like i grew up on this shit bro so it's really dope you know to be
in the same space with you appreciate the energy energy you brought, you know, that's very motivating.
And it's kind of crazy because I'm just going to be really honest, right?
Like, you know, we all know about like energy and manifestation and what you think about is going to become your reality, right?
So the last couple months, right, I've gotten like, like, you know, when you get that bug, right?
Like I'm talking about, I don't know what happened.
The algorithm got me.
Oh, I know what it was when John turned heel.
I watched one video, bro. And next thing I know, I'm balls deep back in that world, bro.
And the wrestling world. And so I mean, one thing has led to another. Right.
And so I started thinking. Right. I'm like, man, wouldn't it be some shit?
I have a tweet, too. It's on my Twitter. I was like, wouldn't it be some shit if I just be like, hey, you know, I'm just have a person at 31 to be like, man, wouldn't it be some shit? I have a tweet too. It's on my Twitter. I was like, wouldn't it be some shit if I just be like, Hey, you know, I'm just have a person at 31 to be like,
yo, I'm going to become a professional wrestler and fuck around and do it. Right. And so next
thing I know I'm setting up this meeting, right? I live in South Florida. I'm about to go to the,
I don't know if you've heard of them, but like the CCW. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go down there.
I worked for them. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm. Yeah. I'm going to go down there. I worked for them.
Yeah.
Yeah. So I'm going to go down there with gang girl and,
and,
and see what's up,
man.
I'm like fucking white.
Like every,
all the pieces like randomly just happened to line up.
You know,
the new young star,
Nikki Blackheart.
She followed,
like we've been talking on Twitter.
She put me on game.
She was like,
yeah,
go over here and talk to this person.
Get her in the space.
She dope,
bro.
She DM her right now, bro. We her in the face. She dope, bro. DM her right now.
Bro, we got reach.
You don't understand, bro.
Elon Musk liked my fucking tweet last year, bro.
Did he?
Yeah, he did.
I swear to God.
All my life.
Cool.
I believe you.
Elon fucking Musk.
I'm not lying.
And I'm not going to lie.
I was a little scared, bro.
If you get me a follow by The Rock, because he doesn't follow everybody, Brooklyn.
That would make my fucking ear hole.
He's funny with followers.
John Cena will follow you.
Can you call him on your fucking phone one day?
Like, can we plan it?
You call him on your phone?
Because he's never going to come to a space.
We said that, and we know that.
Yeah, but listen.
Rock does not follow many.
John Cena will follow you if you follow him.
He follows me already.
Yeah.
He follows a million people. But he follows a million fucking people, bro. It's an you if you follow him he follows me already yeah he follows a million
but he follows a million fucking people bro it's an honor that you follow me yeah i'm just saying
if you could if you could stamp me with the fucking rock or somebody like triple h because
those are like fucking icons did you see the video you see the video i put i got action figures still
in my collector's corner bro you see the video i put up i'm gonna buy on amazon your current pfp of you as a fucking
action figure because i want to support you and i know it's not going to go directly to you it's
probably going to go to a reseller but i want to have a brooklyn brawler action figure because
you're a fucking real one bro well you know what i want to sign it for you that's what i want to have a Brooklyn Brawler action figure because you're a fucking real one, bro. Well, you know what? I want to sign it for you.
That's what I want to do.
But we'll work it out.
I got Kim Chi's coming out in a couple of months.
And then Abe Knuckleball Schwartz is coming out.
And then another Brooklyn Brawler is coming out.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Can you help me with an action figure?
I can't.
Because all my samples sold for
a hundred dollars a piece no no no i'm saying i want to create a doodle action figure oh you want
to doodle action figure yeah yeah people have made 3d models of me i can send one of these models we
can size it we could do a lot of we've had we've had community members 3d print me
lot of shit we've had we've had community members 3d print me we've had people turn me into a real
person and take i gotta send you some crazy shit but yeah i would love to get a doodle genic action
figure like an actual toy that would be cool that'd be cool because no i'd love it because
the when when i i i tried to source it it was too expensive. It was coming in at like $200 an action figure.
I'm not that popular.
I'm not that popular.
And it's just too retail priced to even resell it at that price point.
But I like all the joints that the old school action figures and wrestlers have.
Like they got hand joints, elbow joints, knee joints.
I got the rubber one.
I got the rubber one.
My man.
Cardona just made me.
That's fine.
And then...
Doodle, do an action figure for sure.
No, we've been trying for years.
Everyone wants me to do the teddy bear.
Use the doodle drizzy photo.
I want to do an action figure before a teddy bear.
I think the teddy bears can compete just with the pudgy penguins.
We got some of the coolest looking bears out there.
Phoenix put it on her t-shirt and her nephew
and niece was like where did you get that you know so she's making t-shirts and stuff like
rips are developed to the highest degree it took me three to four months just to come up with
the aesthetics of it there was like 20 sets of eyes like we created this like how the simpsons
were created this is gonna last over 25
years i know it it's gonna last for eternity i know i'll be dead 200 years and i'll still be on
youtube there'll be action figures floating around you know what i mean but you know what
if you believe in it doodle go for it make it your goal and just go for it. Because everyone in this space, listen to me,
you all have a unique contribution in life.
And every dream you ever had, no matter how far fetched,
will come true if you never give up and you go for it.
I'm telling you.
Nobody will believe in you.
They say if you don't believe in yourself, nobody will believe in you. I believe in every single person in this space.
I believe in every single person in this space.
And everything I do, every tweet I make, it's always inspirational.
And I always have praying hands after it.
Yesterday, I put up the video that I beat Triple H.
What?
Two down.
Two down.
Damn.
I beat Triple H.
He could never get a rematch.
It was a handicap match.
It was me and Kyantai against Triple H.
He beat Kyantai.
When he went to give me the pedigree, Jericho hit the ring and gave him a bulldog.
I covered him.
All you heard
michael cole say is i can't believe i am saying this the brooklyn brawler just defeated triple
h on smackdown watch the video the video's on my on my timeline you know that's why i wish people would just... It's a clan. It happened 25 years ago.
Time flies.
Dude, I'm really tripping right now.
Bro, dude, I could send you the screenshot.
Maybe four or five days ago, I swear to God, on everything I love,
I have screenshots and pictures saved of your kimchi mask
because I wanted to use it as inspiration.
Give this guy a follow. I swear to God, I have it in my chat, GPT. saved of your kimchi mask because i wanted to use it as a great guy i followed i was gonna use it
as i swear to god i have it in my chat gpt i was using it like as an inspiration for a character
that i have in mind and like the black and white of the kimchi mask was so dope and it's literally
in my gallery like from a couple of days ago so this is what i mean by like when you're in
when you're in the right zone you know what i mean and you're in that frequency the way they
call it the flow state like you'll start to see all those things just zone, you know what I mean? And you're in that frequency, the way they call it, the flow state.
You'll start to see all those things just line up.
You know what I mean?
That's right, brother.
Everybody's in the right place at the right time right now.
Doodle, I don't have no doubt that you can do anything you want.
I have no doubt.
I know so.
You can and you will and you have.
And I feel the same way about Keith.
Keith is a silent legend killer. That's what I'm
going to call him, the silent legend killer. I like that. That's what I'm going to call him too.
What are you coming up with? I'm like, hey, Brooklyn coined it, you know, so that's awesome.
You know why? He's got the eyes. He's got the intensity, but he's a quiet guy.
I'll tell you a real funny story
with me and keith so when he trained me for the fight i trained nine weeks alone i had one training
partner he was a fucking killer he got stabbed seven times almost bled out by himself because
they tried to rob him but uh he survived he was my training partner and keith was my training
partner when i got to vegas i didn't want to punch keith he was my training partner and Keith was my training partner. When I got to Vegas,
I didn't want to punch Keith. He was my fucking friend. And he showed me some fucking tough love.
He's like, hey, if you don't protect yourself, you're going to be in there and no one's going to protect you and I can't protect you and we didn't train for that. So he's like, you better
fucking hit me back, Tony. But I didn't want to hit him at first because he's a big boy or whatnot.
back tony but i didn't want to hit him at first because he's a big boy or whatnot but um he's
amazing coach he definitely taught me well and uh iron sharpens iron and that just proved to me
another time that i could do absolutely anything and if you google tony super i want you to do
this on youtube after not google youtube tony super t-o-n-y-s-U-P-P-A. You'll see the fight. It's the first one, Brooklyn.
Really?
Two minutes.
You've got to watch it after.
So next time when you come in the space, you can tell.
You want to hear a story?
I was talking to Ken Chemrock's brother, and I said to him,
I've never been to the UFC, but if I went in there and just went wild,
what would happen?
He said, you would have a better chance than anyone else
because everything you would do when i trained for it would be unorthodox and you would probably
catch someone because they do not see it coming because they're all looking for choreographed
stuff that they know you know and that's what he said to me but uh you know i i I just want to go crazy, brother. I just get so fired up.
The one guy says he's grateful to be in my space with me.
I'm grateful to be in the space with him.
You know?
That's you, G.
And that's you, G.
It's mutual.
It's mutual.
Give him a follow.
He's been grateful for life.
I appreciate it, brother.
I appreciate it.
Well, listen.
You've already followed.
Follow me back because you're followed.
I followed you, brother.
There you go, G.
I've been posting wrestling
content for a month.
I want this whole space to follow me because I'm going to
go crazy with Doodle and
Keith.
Remember that? Silent
Legend Killer.
That's his new name.
That's a name that I christen him with.
So make sure you-
That's okay.
Silent Legend Killer.
That's okay.
Tell him that, dude.
Tell him that.
I will, I will.
Let's say what's up to Dr. Soley, because he's excited to hear from you as well, too.
He's been dropping people's elbow in the bottom line
on everything really he's putting the sauce on it oh solely tell him bro tell me that's the bottom
line so tell me solely fool now i keep every single time i see something funny that just
pops in my head man so i just tag you up there comment it how are you doing how's everyone he's
been tagging you brooklyn he's been tagging you, Brooklyn.
He's been tagging you to come to the spaces, man.
No, I know.
You know, I've been out of town and then I almost got killed yesterday.
And then I, oh my, oh my God.
It was so bad.
The blood was gushing out.
It missed my eyeball by an eighth of an inch.
And if it hit my temple, I would have been dead.
You know?
Well, I'm happy that didn't happen and you're still here.
And my wife put butterfly, like those butterfly bandages on there,
and she closed it up, and I went to bed.
The next day, the doctor goes, when did this happen?
I went to the doctor, and he goes, I said, last night, he goes,
how the hell did it heal so fast?
He goes, I never seen nothing like that in my life.
I said, because I willed it to heal.
Because I could do anything I want.
Nothing could stop me.
And that, you know what that is.
The bottom line.
Woo-hoo!
Because the Brooklyn Brawler says so.
The Brooklyn Brawler will always respect this space
and always come back to this space,
and I would like the same respect from everyone in this space.
So, Doodle, you know I'm an in-and-outer.
I go in-and-out because phone calls and all this bullshit.
You know, I'm dealing with lawyers, doctors, everything,
and everything's great you know what
nothing can get me down nothing can get me down when i was bleeding i was laughing because i said
is that all is that all i got you got i bled all over the rug i said my wife's gonna kill me
you know but uh she understood she took care of me she was my personal nurse
and that's a real life there bro you've got a real one man hey i'm it's her birthday
month this month we have birthday month congratulations man i'm gonna put a picture
up later and i'm gonna put happy birthday to the love of my life i'm gonna put a picture up
put happy birthday to the love of my life.
I'm going to put a picture up.
Because to me, she's been great.
She's been great.
We've been married 40 years, and everything is great.
And I just, for something, there's something special about this space.
There's something special.
Everyone in this space, every single person in this space,
Marcos, Alex, Agu, Adrian, Jason, all of you, all of you,
Vibrant, Emma, O.
Do you know all these people personally?
I know a bunch of them personally, yes.
All great. personally I know a bunch of them personally yes all great when I see
great you know what you know what I look at Kate because I see the word Kate
rhymes with great great Kate great Kate my niece has got the same blood as me
she flew to Japan and she and she won a bronze medal.
She's going to be a black belt.
She has the same blood as me. She just travels
and fights. She could beat up a
man easily.
Doodle, I got to split.
No worries, Brooklyn. I love you,
my guy. We'll spin it back to you
next time. I'm here daily, so make sure
I know. I'll be coming in.
I'll be coming in.
Remember, don't forget what I called Keith.
Tell him.
The silent killer, bro.
The silent legend killer.
Yes, the silent legend killer.
I got you, my brother.
All right.
Enjoy your day, Unc.
We'll talk to you in a bit, brother.
Go out there and get those calls down.
Be productive.
Crush today and conquer it, baby. I will. There's no better way to do it you know that take care of everyone
take care of my brother we got king of hearts up here we gotta say what's up
happy tuesday baby happy taco
happy tuesday baby happy taco
what up what up how's it going fellas ladies phoenix doodle monetize on x scott
everyone in the speaker panel dr soli how you guys doing today uh you know what they say life
is gouda and it only gets cheddar i got out of work did a lot of bunch of things i had to handle i got
i got the rest of the day to uh to build man i got the rest of the day to lock the f in
with you guys so what you got cooking what did i miss what did i miss we had an awesome space
and the space is still going we're talking nfts and meme coins and if you only had one opportunity uh to choose today
king of hearts what would you be buying and why between uh nfts and meme coins you're talking
correct oh bro you gotta know my answer for this baby it's nfts baby it's king of heart nfts on my
handle for a reason you know what i'm saying uh it's definitely nft NFTs on my handle for a reason. You know what I'm saying?
It's definitely NFTs. Tell us why.
Because there's going to be a lot more to NFTs once it's super underrated.
Meme coin is more like a casino game.
I've been in the meme coin sector for plenty of years.
I know what it's all about.
And the NFT side is just definitely more positive.
It's filled with real genuine people and better communities.
You know, in the meme coin sect, everyone cries community, community, community.
The second they make 100% profit, they're dunking on every single person's head.
Let's be honest.
What real community is that, you know?
I like NFT projects because you can put tangible goods to it, real life assets uh tie businesses to it and there's a lot more
utility to be involved i think nfts are way cooler um just the name of it nfts over meme coins you
know meme coins you sound like a child you sound like kind of it's kind of adolescence prepubescence
you know i'm investing in meme coins you know i'm a meme coin trader you know it's
but i'm not saying that to delegitimize meme coins of course you know that's they're gonna
be here forever and there are a few you know huge meme coins that i will never sell like
you know dogecoin and you know a few others i'm not gonna get into naming all of them
but overall if i had the choice between one or the other, it would definitely be NFTs.
I like the art, the culture, the music, everything you could put behind it, the businesses, the real world assets.
So that's my final answer.
And that's the bottom line.
Hope everybody has a great Taco Tuesday. And that's the bottom line, baby.
All right.
Well, I do have a follow-up question i think
you're on point check bill take it and go baby i lost you for a second uh you guys can't hear
my soundboard did you cut out for like one second and then you said check bill or something yeah
because it was a hot take baby we got to take it and go
in thailand you don't say can i get the bill you say check bill and then you take it and go
it's takeaway baby so take that hot take and go with it i do have a follow-up question my question
is to you i think we can all agree that whether you're in nfts or meme coins that communities
ultimately are the ones that make
these assets thrive what's the best thing that you like about communities what do you value most
about community the resources because when we're talking about community you're really just talking
about it just a bunch of other like-minded people that invested into the same project
at the end of the day that's really what the community is. So the resources within, you know,
you get to know these people and build connections. And like a lot of people say,
MarTech is famous for saying this, your network is your net worth. So, you know, I believe in that
full heartedly. And also, you know, if it wasn't like, think about like the Doodle Gen X community,
I came into the Doodle Gen X community. I've learned plenty of skills since I've been here.
I learned how to trade crypto. I've learned how to read the blockchain more fluently
um i've learned how to build websites for crying out loud you know so so i think that's like where
the value in the community comes from just nailing these questions give me one more give me one more
all right final question this is the final boss for this up uh do you think nfts or crypto will ever
die what the fuck i said crypto i meant to say meme coins these are meme coins we know crypto
ain't gonna die that's for sure so meme coins are here to stay the same way there's blackjack
roulette all that shit it's just another form of gambling it's it's human nature it's in us you know greed is instilled within
every human on this planet and um you know we all like to have fun gamble a little whether
you're playing scratch-offs or not so i think meme coins are forever here to stay and um and
And no, I just gave you a whole reason why NFTs are definitely fucking here to stay.
no i just gave you a whole reason why nfts are definitely here to stay and um
And damn, yeah, there's going to be a lot to it too.
When you, when, when they're like investment firms that actually like fractionalize real estate, you know, talk to me then and tell me that NFTs won't be here forever.
Like that fractionalized real estate where you can invest into and buy an NFT.
essentially like a share of a house you know what i'm saying or or a building and and you earn
passive income there are so many ways to capitalize on it and the the technology what up i'm sorry g
no they they do they have that right now i know yeah i'm just saying you know when it becomes
more relevant but um oh yeah yeah yeah absolutely yeah you know when that when that hits mainstream so there's just so much to nfts it can go in depth so far um as a
musician you know releasing an album and coordinating the metadata and be able to give
people um you know royalty i'm sorry like split royalties like there are musicians who can do that
imply that share royalties um there's just so many things who can do that, imply that, share royalties.
There's just so many things you can do.
What did I name?
Let's see.
That's real estate, like businesses.
Even like if you have a brick and mortar like bagel store, you can drop an NFT collection
and just provide utility, you know, give those people like once a year, let them take away
like, you know, a dozen bagels and a bunch of stuff.
So like, that's just like stupid little ideas. ideas but like you see where i'm going with this like the the it's
infinite possibilities so i think that the growth and nfts and the money you can make although i
mean it's just so rare though there's like millions of people who will invest in a meme coin and only
a handful of them make out and when someone um when when someone makes money in meme coins that
just means that
10 other people lost it so you know it's not a it's not a fair game at the end it's like penny
stocks though it's right like penny yeah yeah you're right in an aspect it's like penny stocks
penny stocks is a little more gambling there's a high risk to reward ratio so you're right about
that yeah that's a great fucking take sorry have you heard about what the
UAE is doing for citizenship um I believe it's UAE or Saudi or Dubai one of those places but
they're doing where uh you could uh lock up or stake uh like 150,000 dollars a ton um and uh
for like I want to say it's like three years or maybe three to five years,
one of those, but there's a yield attached to it. So like a bond, like a UAE?
Yes, yes, exactly. Whereas I think right now, currently you have to have like,
almost like half a million dollars of like a property or something weird like that. I don't
know the exact logistics of it, but I know it's essentially going to cut you a lot cheaper you know i mean instead of you
just buy 150 000 a ton lock it up get a yield for it like you said treat like a bond essentially go
get your citizenship and go over there versus having to buy like a half a million dollar home
um you know what i mean um so i'm like see there's just ways that crypto is just making life you know
if you're locked in
and you know so that's a way to get your like uh citizenship in dubai is what you're saying
it's a golden yeah yeah way better if you want to get more modern you know way to use uh the
blockchain that's dope advantage that's really dope and it's like an rwa you know what i mean
that's why i'm saying like uh the middle is really, really taking advantage of the tokenization land. Like I know in Saudi and a lot of those places you can buy, like you said, fractional pieces of property. And as the property goes up, you know, you're, it'd be just like buying a piece of, you know, a meme coin or whatever. And then the meme coin goes up, you know, you could sell some of that, you know, so of course, obviously property value goes down, but property is one of the most safest investments there are.
So I was just I just did a thread on RWAs this morning.
It's one of my favorite, you know, metas right now.
Yeah, that's a that's a dope long term meta right there.
RWAs.
Long term play.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Well, let's ask solely the same question question solely i don't know if we got to
ask you brother you've been up here rocking and popping you joined the space a little bit late
but the focus of the conversation was nfts versus memes and i think both of these assets have now
become in woven into the crypto ecosystem as much fud hate as much speculation as these have
humans will always want to trade these things, whether they're digital art pieces, whether they're NFTs, whether they're tokens.
What's your take? Do you have a preference? Do you think that if you were to choose right now NFTs or meme and you could only buy one, where would you be putting your money?
one where would you be putting your money um yeah with the knowledge i have now i would probably
just put into you know depending on what what my goal is with the money you know if i want a quick
flip or if i just want to put it away um you know and gain um slowly you know um like you said i
think meme coins are always going to stay you know um they're not gonna run up as much as it did in my opinion you know like we've had some
meme coins run up to 50 million 100 million even nearly a billion and then go to zero you know um
i think them 100 million 50 million and even uh billy runners you know there's a lot less of them
because there's just so many memes you know there's so many tokens to spread your wealth
around whereas first shot pepe doge and a few other
main ones you know um and yeah there was of course a lot of meme coins but they weren't really that
mainstream you know like i think nine out of ten or eight out of ten crypto traders like
three or four years ago just main crypto traders didn't um yeah apart from pepe and doge didn't
even know what that meme coins were up were about you know so um yeah i think nfts have still got a lot to do in the future as well um i don't know just a little
thought that i had in the back of my mind is um a discussion i had with someone who's
what's it um pictures like pictures you what's the way now in 2025 to prove that picture is real you know with all the
ai and all that about i think the only way in the future one of the ways that they're gonna
um be able to verify a picture is by putting every type of picture um yeah making it into the nft you
know because there's only one with their own coding instead of um a picture you know a picture
can always be modified and if you if
you're a good it person you can modify the image so well that it's unrecognizable by the eye or
even everything is gonna go i know exactly what you're saying brother everything is gonna go on
the blockchain i heard gary v talking about this it was super interesting because like cgi they can
make up anything like videos of like you saying crazy
or doing crazy you know like video proof was the only form of evidence for our society for years
now that's going to go out the window when ai keeps getting better so i think everything is
going to get tokenized fingernails you know every video every picture that could be used for evidence
say um i've committed a murder.
A prison break is a really good example, in my opinion.
I don't know if you guys have seen the series,
but he gets framed for murder by a video,
literally by a video of the feds that edited the video of him holding the gun.
I think that's going to come in play in real life as well.
Even news articles.
Eventually, if a news article wants to verify that it's real you know where the picture's taken on the spot it needs to be turned into an nft in my opinion you know to verify it's real but i don't know i think we've still got all
that to come for the future you know because ai is quite new it's developing developing very quickly
every day every minute every second you know it's getting bigger and stronger so i don't know man i think
nfts and just the blockchain in general i've still got so more much to be put on there like
like king of heart said everything's going to be put on the blockchain eventually everything you
know because that's the only way at the minute that you can verify you know that it's truly
yours or that it's truly just one of a kind another question is how do you stay ahead of the curve? Like,
because like in anything else in life, cops and robbers, right? Like the same way police,
like their technology has gotten better over the years, criminals have gotten smarter over the
years. So I feel like we're going to have that same bottle with humans and AI, you know what
I'm saying? But we got to just stay ahead of the curb and figure out a way to differentiate everything.
So if anyone in this room is smart enough to take care of that, you'd be doing a good job to humanity.
I was thinking the same exact thing.
It's like the further we push it, the further we got to protect ourselves.
You know, like we haven't even gotten into quantum computing yet.
Yeah, it's going to get better and better. Like guys in the 60s got away with like the mob, you know, like the shit even gotten into quantum computing yet yeah it's gonna get better and
better like guys in the 60s got away with like the mob you know like the shit that the mob got
away with like no one could get away with that shit anymore so it's just we got to get better
with as ai gets better we got to get smarter can't be lazy yeah but exactly like you said
the king of hearts you know like the feds get smart but the criminals get smarter as well like
even if you look at drugs import you know with all the technology we've got now you know like the feds get smarter but the criminals get smarter as well like even if you look at drugs import you know with all the technology we've got now you know you should
think that this is hardly impossible for drugs to gain you know we've got x-rays we've got
dogs we've got machines that you can see and um test if there's ever been drugs in
contacts with your whole clothes you know and still you can buy everything you can get it exactly exactly
exactly what you said man exactly what did i just tell everybody that we're screwed
is that what i'm saying no come on we're smarter than that i think there's got to be ways tony
what do you think about that i think that nfts and memes are never gonna die i think that NFTs and memes are never going to die. I think that they serve a purpose.
We talked about it earlier.
People had some really great takes.
They onboard people into crypto, and from there,
they kind of find either bigger blockchains
or they find specific communities.
But either way, whatever you're investing into,
buy something with some conviction
and understand what you're buying
because you're obviously going to be disappointed if if not but we've had amazing takes i want to ask the same
question to peanut peanut i saw you comment some stuff in the comments i want you to share your
take with everyone nfts or meme coins if you could only choose one what would it be i would go for a 404 nft
he's split right in the dead center
um yeah uh i think meme coins are and and that's that's that's my my take why i why i went into
nfts i think meme coins are a great onboarding tool if done in the right way.
And then show people NFTs and their benefits
because I think,
and that's why I'm pretty happy with 404 technology.
Like that makes it maybe easier
for people to get into nfts uh and keep them liquid because
that's that might be holding back some people um from nfts uh thinking if there's no volume uh
i can't get rid of them uh and with the 404s it becomes more i think there will be more volume in uh in nfts um yeah if i had to
pick one that's that's a very yeah i i have to i have to say meme coins of course at first but
yeah um one or the other it's same as as what dr soli was saying am i looking for a short term
or am i looking for a for a long-term investment because
yeah the volatility of meme coins is nice if you want to trade but uh an nft will grow over time
when uh when there's good a good business or or a good thought behind it so yeah i'm in limbo
are you a long-term or are you a short-term guy yeah i'm a long-term guy so i would have to go with
these yeah yeah i would have to go with nfts that's what she said anyways my follow-up question
is this peanut yeah both of these assets really depend on the success of communities right if
neither of these have people pushing
the project, marketing the project, maybe even solid project founders or community takeover
leads that are advocating for the project, generally there's no sense of community and
they don't do well. So community is the backbone of both of these assets and it's a phenomenon
that Wall Street and old money
can't really understand and really put their mind around
to capitalize.
That's why they stay out of memes and NFTs.
But for yourself, what do you value most
when it comes to communities?
Any specific traits, any attributes that you really admire
or you really value?
I think really believe in a certain meme or NFT
or in a certain artist
and really getting behind something together.
As you say, that's hard to grasp for Wall Street and such
because, I don't know, people coming together,
there's a lot of people who, yeah,
who have a big urge or a big need for something like that.
But we've lost it a little bit in the meme coins
as we know in the last eight, nine months.
And I think people are tired.
So they do look for something to
really get behind together and and they will see that that's the way to really um really succeed
uh in especially in the crypto space right now so yeah what do i value the most? I am happy with every good morning post when I see some of the OGs that have gone through everything with us and they still support us.
That's what I get out of bed for every single day. That's why I stick my neck out for everything we do.
stick my neck out for everything we do because having that support is is priceless you can't
put a price on that that's just the heart the heart and soul of people believe in in in me
and in in the project yeah that's um yeah that's priceless
i 100 agree friendships community and unity is totally priceless we're gonna roll it to
cyber Jake and ask him the same difficult questions GM GM cyber Jake happy taco Tuesday my brother
meme coins or NFTs if you could only choose one to buy today July the 8th 2025 what would you be buying jake good morning my brother gmgm everybody especially you tony um
well that's a difficult question because it kind of depends on like what you want out of your
purchase um if i want to make more money i'd be interested in meme coin but if i want to
make some money and get more access to networking and communities i'd be way
more interested in purchasing nfts and that's my two cents and um actively i haven't really
been buying any meme coins lately i've just kind of been holding on to my nfts
i love it everybody kind of said the same thing here in the space and there's no right or wrong. I think we had one individual that chose memes just because of the opportunity of financial abundance, which could be possible. It's not always the case. My follow up question to you, Jake, is communities are really the backbones to these assets. What do you value most in the communities?
to these uh assets what do you value most in the communities
so i'm in a lot of communities and that's not as difficult as a question and usually what i value
the most is just people coming to get work together the network i'm sorry i'm on the road
i'm walking back from the gym to my house. It's the network.
So, for example, I'm in your community, Tony,
and you guys are always having a space,
whether it's you or Phoenix or whoever in the community is hosting a space. You guys get together and you have some type of common collaboration,
whether it's just chilling and smoking or buying NFTs or meme coins or whatever.
So the big thing for me is networking, right?
But outside of that, it's like I'm a business owner just like you, right?
So I'm also a member of the Bored Apes.
And one of the reasons I'm in that space is for the networking as well,
but it's a different kind of networking in my opinion.
I'm in that space because most of the people in there are business owners
and lawyers and things of that nature.
So they give me kind of
more of an executive level networking capability
i love that i love the take there's no right or wrong answer and you bring up some really valid
points every on the money cyber jake great question my final question and follow-up is do you think that nfts
or memes ever die or do you believe that they're kind of enwoven into the crypto ecosystem at this
point of the cycle how far we are in 2025 uh forever okay so that's a bit more of a difficult
question and uh so far the Simpsons are pretty
accurate with depicting the future. So maybe everything goes to zero. But I don't think they
go away. And in fact, I'm actually looking more into and investing into brick and mortar
infrastructure to be able to help facilitate the development of the ecosystem at this point. So
I'm on the other side of the
sword which is i don't think they're going to go away maybe the value changes and the demand
changes quite a bit as you move through the next decade but i don't think it goes away entirely
and entirely loses its value i love the takes everybody's on point everybody's on the money
guys if you're a listener this space has
been awesome i would definitely go back and listen to this space on like 2x uh speed and just take
some of the talking points and actually note them because this is what's going to lead you to the
next best investment this is going to lead you to the next great community whether it's our community
here with doodle genics or another community out there I wish you prosperity I wish you success in your
investing I think there's a lot of great communities a lot of great projects
that are actually worth some of our crypto and they shouldn't be overlooked
take a look at the people on the speaker panel take a look at the projects that
are listening in the listeners take a look at the comments today there's been
tons of people that showed up and we're gonna wrap up the space but ah fuck it we're not gonna
wrap up this space i'll roll another gorilla finger i wanted to say you can't dude
it was a perfect fucking number but we got a nice size space guys retweet this space we got a lot going on here i'm going
to smoke one final gorilla finger in this and i think that you guys can come to your own conclusions
you know listen to everybody's opinions but obviously don't leave yours at the door you know
make your final conclusions whether you're a memer whether you're an nft or whether you just simply
love both i don't think these things these assets are
going away they will live forever on chain and um when it comes to projects and it comes to to
chains i'm really bullish on sui and and i'm really bullish right now also on uh solana so i think
that you have to find chains that you can get behind you know have this conviction when
there's red days or periods of time when the market's not reflecting true value and take
advantage of that and i've been trading the trades have been doing well people that have been subscribed
to us have been taking them so if you haven't already you know hit that subscribe button join
the doodle genics discord and get a doodle gen x bear there's also extra alpha we got
an active vibrant community there and get monetized on x i know a lot of people are struggling with
this i know a lot of people have decided that you know i would love to make an extra 200 to 2 000
a month and it's as simple as getting signed up on monetized on x.com you'll get access to the
engagement group as well as the app and we'll support you on that journey up on monetized on x.com you'll get access to the engagement group as well
as the app and we'll support you on that journey to get monetized so um there's been amazing people
that have been having success and they've been sharing stories all week you can always ask
scott dr soli phoenix jessica mike everybody that's pretty much up here on the speaker panel
they've seen it they've engaged with it, and it's been really successful for them.
So let's keep on pushing. Let's keep on developing the community.
My favorite thing about the community is the unity.
When people really lock in and see a vision and see an opportunity and go at that opportunity full force, nothing is impossible.
It's not even an option in my definition.
We've had amazing successes with this community you know king of hearts has been around as a music producer for
15 years he's always wanted to create a community of musicians artists music lovers producers and
you know i helped him with his platform and that platform is very successful wave root.com and he continues to
thrive uh cyber jake you know when i first met you you were in a position you know financially
with you know relationships whatever just going through it dude look at you now bro all the
business all the clients you know stocking your bags positioning for the the bull run you know
same thing with scott you know he was with a company
or with a community that wasn't as supportive now you know he's here with doodle genics with
Genzio he's uh been hosting and doing live commentating he's done a bunch of stuff he's
been working with sponsorships same thing with Phoenix she's on her way to 10k Jessica's getting
100k impressions a day peanut is getting into nfts dr soli's monetized
you know the community is just thriving the more that you stay active the more that you stay tapped
in the more that you stay connected with people that are really trying to elevate others and and
execute to the highest level you yourself will start developing skills knowledge talents and you yourself will become a
mega success and just come up and ask questions it doesn't take much to hit the request button
and if there's a question about a certain token a project maybe how to buy something at one point I
didn't know how to buy an NFTs at one point I didn't know how to buy a meme token or copy a contract
or scan to see if it's safe at one point you know my wallet unfortunately you know got mixed up with
the wrong things and i sent you know liquidity to other accounts that weren't mine you know and it
just got rugged for three hundred dollars on each so these tough lessons are lessons other people
don't need to go through and i think by having a community, you know, we can save people time, energy, frustration, money, liquidity, and also share all those amazing resources like Cyber Jake said.
And I truly believe the size of your net worth is going to be the size of your net worth, you know, so it is what it is.
You know, so it is what it is.
King Arts, what are you rolling up today, man?
I was going to rug it on you guys, but fucking love you guys too much to do that to these good people.
Shit, man.
We're all over here on the other side in Western civilization just fucking hanging.
You know, it's early for us.
So we appreciate you.
We appreciate you for that.
Nothing right now
Nothing, you know, I'm just chilling still very early
I got my kids with me, you know
Yo, actually what up? I was trying to DM you back being a heart so it won't let me DM you back
Yeah, okay, I don't I don't remember even DMing you in the first place
Hold on send them a DM. He's saying send him a DM so you can start the threat. Oh, yeah
All right, no, no, I got a TM from him this morning about a podcast or something. It won't let me do
Yeah
Unless you didn't send it now
Dude, I'll it's from your account.
Check your DMs on TG, by the way, dude.
Someone came up to me yesterday saying he sent you a few DMs on Twitter for monetization.
Monetize on Xbox.
Your DMs are probably flooded.
So I sent his app to you on Telegram, bro. What are we smoking on there today guys
Yeah, my DMs flooded with other people
With that
Yeah, you sent the same thing
To me
Just so you know
Guys, be careful who you answer.
Yeah, I got it at 10.27 a.m. this morning.
I don't know if it was meant to go to me or not,
but it had my name in it, so I figured it was.
Yeah.
2.45.
Nobody joined that.
No, holy shit, nobody joined that.
Yeah, did someone hack your DMs or something, bro?
I don't know.
I was like, man, I've known you long enough to where I would be able to dm you back yo switch everything bro start with the
passwords spy can you hear me hey spy what's up well i just wanted to say that i did dm you guys
um to try to figure out how to get monetized because you just talked about it that's it
oh awesome do you want to pay
in crypto or do you want to just use like debit or credit or what or apple pay um any of those
well you can just oh go ahead if you click on my my pfp there's a link or if you just click on the
co-host the link i would do it in a browser just a regular browser instead of through x sometimes
it's glitchy and you only have to pay once it says congratulations or successful transaction or it
says something so just look out for the success and we've had people like multiple people pay
twice so don't do that but if that does happen i'll refund you but yeah welcome to the group spy
and i'd love to help you get monetized there's a lot of great ladies that are on that journey and
they'll point you in the right direction please keep some of the info please keep the information
and the app confidential i could see who's sharing it i could see who's using it but
yeah i'm excited to have you on board and i will set up a call as well too and give you a personal strategy and onboard.
Just kind of really introduce you to the system.
And yeah, just keep on grinding.
It works.
It's so cool.
I'm just so excited to like actually talk to you guys because I always post.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
I've been engaging with you.
You've been showing up. Okay, cool. Well, I better engaging with you you've been showing up
okay cool well i better get out so you guys can finish up i just wanted to
hook myself in no no no you're part of the gang now so hang up up here with us
we're definitely going to support you i'm already following you guys give her a follow
she's part of the doggos solid community support other solid communities so i'm all for it
bark sheeple all those guys follow me king and you know i'm cool with everybody i'm like neutral
neutral status like freaking switzerland okay good yeah all right well i'll keep listening
well keep listening if you have any problems or once you do it, let me know. I get a notification on my end, but I want to put you into the group immediately. And tomorrow, sorry, this evening, if you're around, we can do a call through X and I'll definitely show you how the platform works a little bit more personally.
Oh, great. Okay. Thanks for your time. I know it's precious.
Okay, thanks for your time.
I know it's precious.
Anytime, anytime.
I want to support the people that are trying to get monetized.
I want to support the people that see the value in the app
and what we're trying to do here.
And I'm happy that you do.
And you won't be disappointed.
That's for sure.
Okay, great.
All right, well, thanks.
Thanks, everybody.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you, Spy.
Guys, go give her a follow.
Follow all these amazing people. Go give her a follow follow all these amazing people go give
our co-host to follow as well too they're superior and uh let's keep on rocking baby let's keep on
rocking having some fun i'm out of follows i'm out of follows i just want you guys to know so
don't be don't take it personal yes so am i for two days okay okay thank you okay bye mic off
damn how many people do you follow that you guys run out of followers like these they're grinders bro trying to get monetized solely got monetized in
10 days cyber jake this guy's a fucking degen scott ran up six million impressions in one
fucking week i don't i don't give a fuck who thinks it's hot or not, but yo, that's fucking cheddar cheese, bro.
So, hello.
Got it going on, Scott.
Hello, man.
I'm not monetized.
Sign up.
We'll get you there.
Yeah, I messed around with the app a little bit uh back when you were talking to
people before you kind of released it it's a pretty cool app it's the app but it's with the
strategy because the app alone is not going to get you there the app can track all the metrics
but it's the real strategy that you're going to get from being in the community being in the like
the social group on x working working with myself, you'll understand
it, and you'll be like, yo, this is fucking addicting, Tony, and Scott's making memes about
this shit right now, bro, look at my face, I'm a Brooklyn brawler right now, he turned me to Eminem,
50 cent, I was the doodler yesterday, Cyber Jake, I had oil on everything bro i had sticky oily fingers bro fucking guy
but um yeah it's fun man it's just super fun
doodle you mind if i add a comment it's a great conversation from everybody by the way
i really love hearing what everybody has to say i wanted to add a comment about community i was
thinking a lot
about what people were dropping. Community not only gives you community and all that good stuff,
it gives you access. And the access grows as the community grows. It's like this flywheel effect
that happens. And for NFTs or memes or whatever, you're not only meeting people, you're not only
getting education, but you're bringing value back as the community grows bigger.
It's like that circle grows, it touches more points, and all that value comes back into
the community.
But it's only valuable if the community uses it and then spits out value to those outside
that circle.
And that continuous growth is what the value of community is.
I'm going to throw that as my final answer in there.
And I think it sort of combines a lot of things that everybody has said.
And one other thing I want to touch base on is what Phoenix said, which is a great point,
you know, safety for children, that idea of meme points could be dangerous.
I think this is going to be like a pool where you got to build a fence around your pool
in the backyard.
But I don't think people are going to be like a pool where you got to build a fence around your pool in the backyard um but i don't think people are going to stop swimming but i do think there's going to be fences built around
the pools that are meme coins how that will be i don't know um but just a thought there yeah great
conversation from everybody here i really enjoy being here and again appreciate you having me up
here yeah dude and we have other spaces that are a little bit more share and like
you know builder spaces and founder and artist spaces so we'll be having that tomorrow what
we buy on wednesday come up you can kind of explain your project a little bit more but i
just want to give a big shout out to everybody that supports and everybody that came to this
space today everybody that signed up
to monetize on x everybody that's holding a dudogenic nft everybody that stayed the duration
of this space because it truly does matter and um yeah we've had a lot of great conversations
there's no wrong or right answer guys we're not here to criticize judge or condemn whether you
love or hold mean coins whether you love or hold nfts i think both are viable assets that are turning people profits i think understanding
them is vital to the success of trading them and the ownership so just invest wisely make sure that
you have a great understanding of what you're buying but that's all i got for you phoenix
crypto any final statements that you want to share or say before we wrap up the
space and thank you once again for holding the space and having that giveaway for everybody
that's supporting and following go up to the top engage with it guys opportunity to win $50 worth
of free crypto two winners up there and uh we should have a winner very soon but crypto uh
phoenix crypto back to you well i just want to say, Doodle, for bringing me up to co-host and my unlimited
thanks for always holding these spaces, always giving your time because you provide so much
alpha, so much knowledge.
And it's just been incredible to vibe and learn and share knowledge with so many trailblazers
here in the ecosystem.
We're all here so early.
We're super excited to be a part of something new
that we know will change history.
And it's just incredible to be a part of this new foundation.
We're setting the stones of a new world.
And it's great to be a part of the history of it.
And you do so much to foster that.
So my many thanks to you and to everyone here
who shared their points of view everything
was um beneficial and makes you think so i appreciate all this perspectives here
you are on point phoenix and everybody was on point with their takes and their perspectives here today.
Like we said, we're all here to build, grow, learn, connect and network and hopefully find that next 100x baby.
So chase those markets, chase the all time highs.
They're right around the corner. And on that note, we'll see you guys.
