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NFTs! Why Go Multichain?
Recorded: March 5, 2026 Duration: 0:50:12Space Recording
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Thank you. you well all right everybody good morning is, what is today? Thursday? How is it Thursday already?
It's Thursday, March 5th at 11.01 a.m., and it's time for Unvault.
We do these shows every Tuesday and Thursday at 11 a.m. Pacific time, or what is that?
2 p.m. Eastern standard time,
or whatever time that works out for you.
It's now, if you're in the room,
you don't have to worry about what time it is,
just right now.
My name is Aaron Haber.
You can see me.
Oh, I should be up on stage.
What happened there?
Let's see here.
Let me, oh, I see myself as a speaker on my laptop, but not here.
Oh, this is going to be, this is going to be a fun one, everybody.
Do me a favor and please repost the room.
We used to say retweet the room, but there's no birds involved anymore.
It's just, it's just posting.
No X, no Twitter.
No, no, it's X.
It's X now. Okay. Good to see everybody in the
room. Anybody's welcome up on stage, especially today, because I am by my lonesome. Ernest Lee
is off doing another thing. Yes, it's heartbreaking, but we'll all get through it together.
but we'll all get through it together.
Did anybody catch our segment on Coffee with Captain this morning?
5.45 a.m.?
If you want to watch any video clips of me,
you can tell that it's 5.45 a.m.
Ernest Lee rolls out of bed just looking pristine.
Me, I roll out of bed looking like a human.
Not saying Ernest Lee isn't human. I'm
just saying that I don't look like that at 5.45 a.m. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, still
handsome, but handsome and tired. But yes, it was a great segment with Coffee with Captain. We
appreciate our partnership with Cap. Nice guy. Not going to brag. I've hung out with him in person.
Yeah, not going to brag, but it's happened.
And we had Simple Farmer on today
as we continue to spotlight brilliant minds in the space.
What is he calling it?
He's calling it From the Vault, I think.
From the Vault, I think. From the Vault. Yes, I think.
Oh, and they debuted their segment jingle,
their rap done by Payne, which was quite good.
I don't know if you could tell, I had a huge smile on my face
because it was very, very good.
Janelle, good morning.
I'm going to invite you to co-host here.
How are you today?
Well, perhaps I'll get an answer for that in a minute. It was quite good. I really appreciated that. And we had Simple Farmer on. Simple Farmer is the founder of Clutch Martins.
Hello.
Oh, hello.
I couldn't press the unmute button.
It wouldn't work anyway.
Good morning.
Good morning.
How are you?
Yes, I'm good.
Honestly, technical issues.
All is well.
Did you hear the jingle this morning?
Coffee with Captain.
They made a jingle for unvault
and when I say jingle it's like a modern jingle
it was like it was
you know it was pain rapping
ooh so we could like bust them shapes
whatever that means
yeah but it was
I don't know what that means
and it's definitely not cool what I said
like I think my father
was here he'd be like oh oh, my God, you're so crazy.
Yeah.
It was a very, very good intro song.
And, again, we had Simple Farmer on, the founder of Clutch Markets.
And, of course, Ernest and I have a partnership now with Clutch Markets
called Clutch Labs.
So it's very confusing.
Ernest and I are partners with Simple Farmer. However, we do not touch any of the prediction market stuff that he does,
because we're weirdo Americans and we can't do that. So that's a carved out thing. But
we love Simple Farmer. he brings a lot to the
table and now simple farmer is basically our our dev project lead i don't know what you officially
call that's that's what he's doing and so he is helping us sprint across the finish line
and when i say sprint i mean like getting it audited by Quint, getting it re-audited again,
making sure there are no bugs, you know, that kind of thing.
But making sure that we get to the finish line
to launch Unvault and the Divot platform
in as short a time as possible
without cutting any corners on coding or security
or anything like that.
So it was great having him out there.
Sprint, no dev pun intended.
You know, a sprint is just a way of getting the work done
in dev land.
Oh, well, you didn't even know.
Did not know that.
I'm just saying things.
I don't even know what's going on.
I see Bad Ted Yacht Club, who was our guest on Tuesday.
I wonder if it's JP Hazleton.
He was a good guy, good interview.
It was a lot of fun.
It's great to see the Bad Teds here.
And my gosh, De Niro, that is a difficult picture to look at. It's very vibrant, but, uh,
not gonna lie, it also wants, it makes my eyes want to explode. It is, it is too vibrant, perhaps.
And I say that with all love. It is very, very vibrant. But it's good to see a lot of the bad
Ted's here. Um, and, uh, yeah, this week, bad Ted's,eds, Alpha Dogs, Chumlins,
and then we have some that are in the, you know,
let's read over the contract phase.
But I can't talk about the meetings we've had,
but I can say wow.
I can say wow.
So, and then, you know, of course, Heavy Metal is working with us.
And, you know, we've got the in-home collections, Bulls on the Block, Bears on the Block, Bulls, Evos, STKs, dolls, trashy treasure boxes, and, of course, Clutch Puppies.
And of course, clutch puppies.
To be honest, we didn't talk a lot about clutch puppies this morning because Simple
Farmer is all excited about his perp market.
I'm going to be honest here.
I know NFTs.
I don't know coins.
When I think perp, I think somebody who is about to be arrested, like a perpetrator,
not perpetual,
but,
but anyway,
I mean,
that was a good time.
So check in our friends at,
you know,
clutch markets.
I mean,
and full disclosure,
it's half us kind of,
sort of,
I don't,
I don't even know what we're allowed to say.
Can we just get,
can we just get regulation out here,
please?
Can us Americans, please?
It's moving in the right direction.
Good to see Hizzy, E-Money.
E-Money, one of the founders and partners in Alpha Dogs, by the way.
Good to see Silent Bob, De Niro.
I've heard that there are a bunch of them.
So I don't know.
Maybe they're all here.
I don't know.
Juan, good to see you, Wanda.
Oh, Juan and Wanda.
Hmm.
Ninja Mike, I'm all in.
Jungle King, Stuart, Stuart Smokey.
Good to see you.
Let me follow back all the bad Teds that are following us.
I mean, how can we not?
Okay. Yeah, I've just gone and followed all the Teds I are following us. I mean, how can we not? Okay.
Yeah,
I've just gone and followed,
followed all the Teds I have.
That's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I was already following Silent Bob,
we're following Hizzy,
we're following E-Money.
Yeah,
that's the worst.
We're following Jose,
of course,
and bad Teds.
It's the worst when you're,
because,
you know,
look,
we have like a bunch of X profiles now.
Unvault being the main one,
you know, me, Aaron Haber being the personal one for me.
And then you're like, oh, of course I'm following that person on Unvault.
And then you realize you're not.
And you're like, oh my gosh, how embarrassing.
Anyway.
Can you add yourself as a speaker?
I did
Oh, it's showing in mind that you're a listener
No, no, now it is
But before
On my laptop it was showing me as a speaker
And on my mobile it was showing me as a listener
You're right
Once I get up here as a speaker officially
This room is going to explode
That's the kind of power well i wasn't like i wasn't saying that explicitly but i don't want to give
you too many hours but yeah well you know the funny thing is is that i've now requested to join
our space my buttons are not working i I can't approve it. No,
I have approved it and it's,
it's connecting,
but it is like,
you're,
I don't know.
It won't,
it won't,
it won't let me up.
It won't let me up.
Yeah.
It won't let me approve.
You know,
well,
what are you going to do?
What are you gonna do?
There's money. Money is helping us out on socials and, you know, That's really awesome. Well, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? There's money.
Money is helping us out on socials and, you know, all kinds of stuff.
We're very happy about that.
Hey, money.
Yeah.
Money's a good dude.
Oh, maybe your dog's wrong.
I'm going to try to join one more time.
Let's see here.
I mean, I'm already, I get it.
Oh, I think that did it.
Oh, it's still connected.
Whatever.
Look, so Unvault, I think most of the people in the room know, but for the people listening
in the audience later on who may not know, we're revolutionizing.
You know, ChatGPT tells me to stop saying we're revolutionizing things because, you
know, it doesn't want us to sound like we're trying to put one over on people like oh come on this changes everything but it kind of
changes everything you know whereas uh nft collections whereas they you know launched
on one chain and generally stayed on one chain uh And if you wanted to move it to another chain, even another contract,
you had to go through just a huge amount of hassle.
Now, with Unvault, your collection can exist on many different chains
at the same time without migrating, without burning, without any kind of hoo-ha.
It's simply a vault an unvault system you lock them up
on one chain only you can recover them it's not recover it's not like they're lost only you can
take them back out i should say uh and then you can take them out on another chain only one nft
is is the active at any given time so like me me, I'm a Bordet Piat Club member number 2960.
Okay, I'm not saying the Bordet Piat Club is unvaulting,
but I'm saying in this dream scenario where they did and were unvaulting,
my 2960 is the token that I have across all chains.
Right, it's 2960 on every chain,
same number,
same art,
same metadata,
traits, you know, everything.
And it just so happens,
oh, have I visited Solana?
Am I on, you know, ETH mainnet?
I mean, well, I should really take Bad Ted
because they are signed up.
Let's say I had Bad Ted number 2960. Well, I have really take Bad Ted because they are signed up. Let's say I had Bad Ted number 2960.
Well, I have Bad Ted number 2960 on Ape Chain, ETH Mainnet, Base, Abstract, Polygon, Binance Smart Chain, and Solana.
Although I think I'm forgetting one.
I'm forgetting one of the EVMs.
I don't know.
But I think there's eight of them.
And eventually there'll be more, right?
So I would have bad Ted number 2960 on all of those.
It's just that only one is active at any given time.
And you might be thinking, oh, my gosh.
Well, how am I going to navigate that?
Well, one, you can just go to unvault.com when we launch,
and you can just do it all there.
But if you're really like, you know what, OpenSea is my jam.
I'm sorry if Magic Eden was your jam because that jam ran out.
You've got to go to the store for more jam.
They don't have any more jam there.
They've shut down the EVMs there.
They're just doing Solana.
But if you're like, OpenSea is my jam. Well,
listen, I've seen the emails. I've seen the emails saying, hey, we would like to help you
out OpenSea. We have this patent submission where you can look at a collection as the collection,
not just as a contract, but as the collection. Meaning the collection across all chains just shows up as one collection.
So, you know, we'll see if they want to do that.
What did happen, Janelle and Money, and I want to say hi to you in a second, Money.
What did happen with Magic Eden shutting down, and what a clusterfuck over there.
Oh my god. What what a clusterfuck over there.
Oh, my God.
What a gigantic clusterfuck.
You know, shutting down, okay.
You're a business, you make decisions.
Okay, fine, whatever.
No more EVMs, no more Bitcoin ordinals.
Okay.
I don't know who I was talking to, and they were like, well, it's a good business decision, and I was like, yeah, all right.
I don't know who I was talking to,
and they were like, well, it's a good business decision. And I was like, yeah, all right.
But then paying KOLs to FUD other NFTs and ordinals is just, I mean, look, that's my understanding of it.
But if that's what they did, which it seems like it is,
let's say allegedly, I mean, that's kind of shitty.
That's not really what the space is about.
So hopefully that's not what they did.
Although it kind of seems like from the timeline that is what they did,
but maybe I'm wrong.
Do your own research.
But let's not FUD each other's bags there's room for everybody
but I'll tell you what, now that
Solana or
Magic Eden has gone to only Solana
you know what that means
for Unvault users, it means
huge, well, let me just say
potentially huge arbitrage
opportunities because everybody using
Magic Eden
won't see any of the other chains. They'll only
see the Solana version. So if the folks using Magic Eden put out a, you know, a Solana collection
bid for bad TEDs, you know, offer, I should say, or the Solana Floors is higher than any of the EVMs.
Well, you can arbitrage those bad TEDs all day if you want to, and I get it. Nobody would ever
trade a bad TED. They only want to hold on to him. But don't forget, trading equals volume equals
royalties for the collection and royalties for the holders that adhere to the divot rules.
royalties for the holders that adhere to the divot rules.
It's not a bad thing.
So I'm very curious to see if my theory holds up
that there'll be a lot of arbitrage opportunities,
I'm going to say it, against Magic Eden users.
I don't know, we'll see.
Money, hello, officially hello, how are you?
Hey, good morning, man.
Thought I'd hop up here and see if I could break the cycle of requesting to come up for you between Unvault and Aaron Haber.
I appreciate that.
But yeah, no, the Magic Eden thing is pretty crazy.
Just the way that they handled that was so just ridiculous, man.
The KOL side of things, but just the the whole last i feel like the last
six months has been kind of a train wreck over there well well okay now for some reason i am
echoing and you're oh am i done echoing okay cool so ever since was it reservoir is that what it's
called ever since reservoir went down they've just lost their shit over there.
I always get the name wrong.
I usually call it Sovereign, but I'm pretty sure it's Reservoir,
which was one of the indexing companies, I believe.
And it messed up a lot of stuff when they decided to close up shop.
One of the things I noticed is that all of a sudden,
our collections on Magic Eden
were getting weird. And it wasn't happening at OpenSea. And they just kind of never fixed it
from what I could tell. So, yeah, I don't know. Look, I mean, on the one hand, I really appreciate the NFT trading platforms because, hey, it allowed us
to trade NFTs. But there's been a good side, like, hey, thanks for being innovators and
letting us do these things. And then there's been sort of a not as good side, which is
forcing the entire,
I'm not going to say forcing,
but really making it so that royalties aren't adhered to.
Yeah, it used to be that you'd have the one sort of evil dude going like,
oh, I'm going to OTC and not pay royalties.
Okay.
But then Magic Eden started it where they said, said no we'll just make it optional and open c
said oh we're losing you know we're losing uh market share so we're gonna get rid of that too
and they just they just ended the social contract of royalties and earnest might tell you that
there is an argument to be made that when somebody buys an NFT and there's a royalty attached to it, not paying the royalty and then allowing people to not pay the royalty may not be the best thing to do.
Yeah, Monty, go ahead.
Yeah, I think that you guys were sharing this morning on Coffee with Cap, talking about royalties and stuff, and Ernest made that point.
I think I made a little post about it.
But I think that, yeah, I think we've seen the path of royalties going away
and being optional and what that's done.
And it's kind of just driven projects into the ground
where having made that decision to have the royalties,
it could have really added to the whole ecosystem.
So I think people are a lot more open, open eyed to that idea now and realizing the consequences
of not having that all for the past year or so. Plus two, three years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean,
look, is getting a hundred percent of something better than getting 94%, 95%?
I guess when you think about it for a second, it always is.
When you think about it for a minute, there are definitely cases where it is not.
I would rather get 95% of $100,000 than 100% of $10,000.
That's an $85,000 difference if you're bad at math, everybody.
Right?
And so now, you know, is skirting royalties the only thing that has depressed the NFT market?
Certainly there's been lots and lots of things.
But, you know, on the one hand, you know, people don't pay royalties and then they're like
what why is this company shipping anything they can't pay to ship anything they need to hire
devs they need to hire marketing people they need to actually potentially build a physical thing
they need to have a money for an event space etc cetera. I talked about it, I think it was this morning,
the Coffee and Casting, which seems like a million years ago,
but there are kind of two camps of projects that need to get royalties.
One, yes, the big projects where they have a lot of expectations on them
and they need to pay people and they need to have a runway and funds, et cetera.
But then there's also sort of the, you know, the smaller collections, the independent founders and artists who just literally need those funds to survive if they want to work full time in Web3,
but also to do things for their holders
and for their company, to expand their staff.
Everyone's favorite word, utility.
It's hard to provide utility
when you have nothing to build it with.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I don't know.
There's just been a lot of,
I think a lot of garbage takes.
We had the loudest voices in the space
being the ones that were only focused on their own bags.
And that's okay, but I want everybody to make a huge bag.
That is my wish for all of you.
Huge bags.
But the thing is, if you don't tend to the garden,
the garden dies.
If you pick everything and don't replant, you come back the next season,
like, oh, where the fuck's all the plants?
Well, you ate everything.
You took everything out, you ate everything, and you didn't replant.
That's kind of what we have going on here.
So, but to be positive about it, there are tons of people, especially here in this space
that believe in the culture, they believe in the tech, they believe in the future of what NFTs can
bring to the table, because it's quite a lot. It's quite a lot. We've had projects ask us,
well, with the divot, you know know is it just royalties well it could be
a revenue stream from anything that's distributed to the holders that's completely up to them
yes i think your overall sentiment is definitely changing too towards that i think
we're i even the last couple months i feel like it's it's changed quite a bit
people are open to it.
I feel less like a pariah in spaces now where I've, you know, we're, we have a partnership with Coffee with Captain now, but I very specifically remember getting up on stage. I don't remember.
Why say specifically?
I don't remember the date or even the year, but I remember getting up and saying royalties are important and projects should protect royalties, even cutting off potential perks for people that aren't paying royalties.
Which, you know, which is the mean way of saying give perks to people that are supporting the project.
And those who don't want to, they don't have to,
but they also don't have to get those perks.
And, you know, I was kind of like, oh, what the fuck?
You know, not making fun of anybody, but just, you know,
that was not a popular opinion.
I still have the same opinion.
And Ernest and I have built a company around it,
rewarding people that put out projects, that put out art,
that continue to keep projects alive,
but also the community members, the holders, everybody.
That's what I'm looking forward to,
and we're getting closer and closer to that every day.
Once again, we've signed up some amazing projects.
Heavy Metal, Bad Ted Yacht Club, Ch chumlins our first bass collection uh alpha docs of course we're here both uh bad ted's and alpha dogs are here welcome everybody
i can't wait to sign up our first individual artist i've gotten some dms
from individual artists and when i say individual artists i mean like
yes they have collections,
but they're art collections.
Yes, I'm looking at UTP.
I'm looking at UTP.
We've had some, and I've gotten some DMs from artists who I haven't heard from in a couple of years that we used to hang out all, and I say this with love.
I'm glad I am.
We used to hang out all the time on Clubhouse.
And now I'm getting some DMs like, oh, I know Aaron Haber.
And I'm like, yes, it's me.
I'm answering you back from Unvault.
I want the individual artists to also get a boon from this.
But money, Janelle, and by the way, anybody's welcome to come up on stage.
Even if you just want to say hi, if you have any questions, maybe you were in the Coffee with Captain space this morning,
where we're talking about clutch puppies and clutch markets, etc.
Anybody's welcome to come up, or you can leave a comment in that little purple pill.
Don't swallow it, though.
You may be on a tablet, but it doesn't mean you can swallow it.
But we do have a topic today.
NFTs.
Why go multi-chain?
Because that is a question that I get asked quite a lot.
I've met with quite a lot of founders.
And actually, I've only met with one person.
So I'm not going to say who.
I've met with one person so far who's like, I don't get it.
Okay, that's all right.
You don't have to.
But everybody else is like, okay, I get this,
but why would my holders want to go on different chains?
Well, and there's a ton of reasons for that.
So from the holder standpoint,
and I love when founders ask me that because it means they're thinking about their community.
Oh, we lost Janelle.
They're thinking about their community.
And so why would holders want to go multi-chain?
Well, one, let's say somebody's holding a shit ton of a project and they're like, you
know what?
I want to monetize some of this, which let's not sell shame, by the way.
If somebody has been holding a hundred of your collection, you know, for two or three
years, gosh, let them, let them sell some and make some money.
But also don't forget it brings royalties into the project.
It brings volume in it.
It brings, it brings a new eyes to the project potentially, not just those who are buying it. It brings new eyes to the project, potentially.
Not just those who are buying it, but also those who see the sales coming through.
So why go multi-chain?
Because all of a sudden, as opposed to only the people that are currently paying attention to the chain that you're on.
Let's say you launched on ETH.
Okay, like Bad Ted Yacht Club. Okay, well,
there's volume on ETH, but the people on Solana, the people on even Ape Chain, and the other EVMs,
Base, Abstract, Binance Smart Chain, Polygon, et cetera, and we'll add more EVMs, they're not
paying attention to the ETH mainnet stuff,
especially the people on Solana.
And so all of a sudden, you show up on Solana and the other EVMs,
and there are a tremendous amount of people more
that are potential buyers of your NFTs.
And so for holders, they can open up liquidity on all those other chains,
as opposed to what's the liquidity on the origin chain that we started with.
And honestly, maybe you've super saturated the chain that you're on. Everybody knows you,
they all bought it, or they're not interested. But what about the other six or seven chains
that we're launching with?
I've heard several times on Coffee and Captain
people saying, I love Klinosaurs,
but I'm over here on ETH.
I'm never going to get a Klinosaur.
I'm not messing around with Solana.
And so you can say, well, no, come on, change your mind.
Or you can just allow them to buy a Klinosaur
on ETH or Abstract or you can just allow them to buy a cleanestore
on ETH or abstract or whatever chain that you want.
So for holders, it allows you to open up liquidity.
It also allows arbitrage opportunities
for holders and traders,
which again brings volume and royalties
back to the collections.
We're going to be on, like I said, seven or eight chains to start.
And especially now with Magic Eden only being Solana,
you're going to be able to go to Unvault,
and you are going to be able to see the floor price,
the lowest floor price for the collection across all chains.
Eventually, because we're not launching this with the MVP,
you'll have to do it with your own eyes,
but eventually there'll be an arbitrage tool
where you'll just press a button and say,
I want to arbitrage Bad Ted Yacht Club.
And it'll be like, beep, boop, boop,
here's the lowest floor
and here's the highest collection offer.
And it'll just take you through it, and boom,
you've just realized an arbitrage profit.
Hopefully.
And I think you're going to be able to do that all day long
against those just trading Solana on Magic Eden.
And these are all things that I hope happen.
I'm not guaranteeing anything, but we're going to put the tech out there for everybody to use. And then talk about utility, too. There's certainly games and events and all kinds of things where you'll need to have an NFT on that chain to go to the event or hop in the game or other side or, you know, whatever's going on.
Maybe there's a claim or an airdrop or something.
You'll be able to do it.
You'll be able to do all those things.
Plus, I mean, the last thing is as a holder in the collection, you probably want the collection to do well.
And so you want to see it expand.
Those are the reasons to go multi-chain in terms of holders money and janelle before i go on to the actual what like collections want to do
it i i want to take a breath and allow you guys the opportunity to speak should you want to
yeah i think that personally for me i I have chains that I want to support
or I'm, you know,
and that sentiment kind of changes,
I think as different ones come up
and we've seen it from year to year now.
So it is, I like that aspect.
I do think there's an arbitrage side to that
and having that all in one place,
being able to manage that is going to,
is a nice feature.
Yeah, we're going to have a robust platform.
Now, by the way, before anything,
I was just looking through the audience,
I see Payne is here.
We just followed him.
Payne has got a, I don't know what the collection is.
It's cute.
It's like, I don't know, it's like turquoise background.
And Payne is a on-chain content and brand storyteller,
Coffee with Captain newsletter.
And he created that amazing, I mean,
I feel like we shouldn't be calling it a jingle.
It's way better than a jingle.
It was so great.
I can't wait to hear it again.
It really was very good.
So thank you, Payne.
That was really excellent.
I mean, I have to go and listen to that space later.
Yeah. But yeah, I just said, I have to go and listen to that space later. It's really, yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, I just said, I think you covered this.
You said a lot about why go multi-chain.
You pretty much said it all, I believe.
But I think just in general, not just about going multi-chain, it's just good for the
wider ecosystem to introduce people, to get people in, you know?
Discover new chains, discover new
communities.
See what's going on.
Oh yeah, well, you know, from
the chain standpoint, I think when we
started talking to some of the chains that were kind of like
this is not the way that
things are done, which
it hasn't been, right?
Generally, you view other chains as competition.
I mean, maybe you'll go out to lunch with somebody, but, you know, there's only a certain
amount of people.
We need to get them.
We need to get the volume over.
We're going to try to do anything we can to get the volume from us or to us from them.
to us from them.
Kind of like a zero-sum game.
It's like a zero-sum game.
But now, with Unvault coming,
now it's kind of flipped the script a little bit
where, you know, yes,
you can offer incentives as a chain
to get people to come over.
I mean, gosh knows,
if I'm holding a bunch of Solana NFTs
and Ape Chain says to me,
hey, if you come over,
you bring these Solana NFTs and Unvault them on Ape Chain says to me, hey, if you come over, you bring these Ape Chain NFTs over, or you bring these NFTs and unvault them on Ape Chain, and you do some business there, whether it's hanging out in other side or just selling NFTs, we'll give you XYZ. I don't know what XYZ is. Maybe it's crypto. ApeCoin. Maybe it's
NFTs. Maybe it's some
kind of super crazy thing the
ApeCo people come up with. I don't know.
Same thing with Solana.
If I'm holding a bunch of
ETH type stuff and Solana's like
you come over here for two weeks
we're going to give you a soul.
Yeah, absolutely.
Sure. Thank you very much.
I'll potentially use that to buy more NFTs and bring them to wherever the next perk is.
So for the chains, they have an opportunity to get the business that they've been looking for.
Because now, as opposed to making people take their NFTs and migrate them or come over to it,
they can just do it easily on our platform.
You don't really have to do all that much.
You just go, I want to unvault it on Solana.
Oh, there you go.
I mean, obviously you have to have a wallet that's usable on Solana,
but that's pretty easy.
And then boom, you're on Solana.
Good job.
You did it.
I was telling, who were we meeting with?
I can't remember.
But anyway, I was talking about the fact
that I'm just not that technically savvy.
I'm a technologist.
I'm an inventor in the Web3 space.
I've been here for a bunch of years.
But when it comes to bridging and burp trading, it's just not my thing.
I just, I've never had a successful swap on Uniswap, okay?
Like, I'm just, I still haven't bridged my sandbox land from 2021.
I'm just not good at these things.
So one of the things we set out to do was to make a
platform that even I could use. Maybe you're in the same boat as me where, you know, you're like,
I don't know, I love NFTs, but gosh, when I have to connect three wallets and do a thing,
and it's like, we've made it very, very simple. so simple even an aaron can use it
uh from the collection standpoint janelle yes go ahead you just you discredit yourself i think you
you're pretty good at figuring all this stuff out no i think you're better than you say you are
but thank you some some of the things are not easy for me to do yeah yeah it can be quite
complicated it's just like you you just, but like,
everybody, nobody knows how to do it.
They just figure it out.
There's no white paper
about doing this shit.
Not really.
But there's also no prize to figuring out
an eight-step technical thing
where if you fuck it up, you'll lose your assets.
Yeah.
So let's just make it easy for everybody
where it is just a simple
thing where you you just can't fuck it up they are gonna love it unvault you can't fuck it up
still might be able to but the new new slogan well i guess somebody's gonna try but anyway so
if you're a collection like bad ted yacht club Club, Alpha Dogs, Heavy Metal, etc.,
why do you want it?
I mean, why do you want to go multi-chain?
Gosh, I mean, why wouldn't you?
You get on all the chains.
You know, eight to begin with, I think.
I still can't.
Okay, so it's ETH Mainnet, ApeChain, Base Abstract, Polygon,
Binance Smart Chain, and Solana. But I still feel like I'm missing one of the EVMs. All right,
let's just call it seven for now. So you get distribution on seven different chains. All of
your holders immediately have the ability to transact on seven different chains. All of your holders immediately have the ability to transact on seven
different chains. And just like it opens up liquidity for them, it opens up liquidity for
the collection because as traders trade on different platforms and different
blockchains, it opens up those liquidity pools, and that flows
back to the project because we are enforcing royalties. All of our smart contracts enforce
royalties. Even if you're a collection that currently has a contract that does not enforce
royalties, we will change you to a contract very easily, not burning your original stuff,
you can still keep them. That'll be changed so that you can be on a contract very easily, not burning your original stuff, you can still keep them.
That'll be changed so that you can be on a contract
that enforces royalty.
So every sale that goes through, a platform anyway,
is royalty enforced.
And that flows to the collection,
and then also with the divot,
it can flow to your holders as well. It's a licensing
deal. You put a percentage aside for the divot pool and then you swap it over and you pay people
out. Right to the holders, it's royalties to the divot pool to the holders.
That's what it is.
So also for just a marketing standpoint, you know, we were talking to a bunch of founders and creators about give your community an incentive to sell, to even list or sell, which
I know everybody's supposed to be like, no,
hold forever, hold forever.
Well, if they sell, not only will it create royalties and, you know, hopefully some money
for your holders, but also it will put you up there on that chain's, you know, hopefully
top 10.
Do a coordinated effort.
Used to be, hey, everybody, let's raid this tweet.
Now they'll be like, hey, let's raid this chain.
I mean, we're certainly going to try to figure that out for SDK and Bulls on the Block.
And what will happen when these old collections, older collections, or even newer collections,
collections, or even newer collections, start to show up on the top 10 of multiple chains.
start to show up on the top 10 of multiple chains?
I think what will happen is people from multiple chains will pick them up, and you'll expand
the community. Hopefully, raise the floor and raise volume and all that good stuff.
That's why go multi-chain goodbye everybody just kidding but that is the
answer hey this is where go queen
oh amazing we have yeah we have different artists coming in i can't see
who's here my um ex has done that funny thing again where
i can't see come on mobile i can't see who's in the space
i find it very disconcerting that i don't know well right now from what i can see
on vault you money and now red goat queen are on stage i would not let myself up apparently
i couldn't get up on my own stage i couldn. That's when it all went wrong for me is when I was trying to let you up.
Yeah.
It's the, yeah, well,
what are you going to do? I mean, look, they just launched
Spaces last week. They're working out some bugs.
Good morning, Red Goat Queen. How are you?
Hello.
Hello, Erin.
Hi, Janelle. I'm
Money. Hope you're all doing Erin. Hi, Janelle. Hi, Manny.
Hope y'all are doing great.
Yeah, good to see you.
Yes, good to see you too.
Yeah, how are things?
I mean, things are amazing.
Not going to lie.
Everything is doing great.
If you don't know Red Goat Queen, she's one of the, I think, one of the great artists in the space.
I love your work and and not only uh do we love your work but we also you know hired you to to make blowies
yeah yes and people must be like go ahead sorry i i was i was just about to ask when blowies
oh yeah well that's what i was going to say is the plan for blowies.
And if people don't know what blowies are, they are adorable dolphins that try to dress up like board apes so they can sneak into the board apiocle.
And Red Gold Queen did the art for blowies.
And they're so great.
I can't wait for them to come out.
And we have a few collections that we are waiting.
We're not waiting until, like, crypto goes up or the market does whatever.
We're waiting until we have enough eyes on vault across the chains that there's an audience to mint.
Right?
And so, Blowey's Buckaroos on the Block, which
is the new Bulls on the Block collection that
was done by Rui, the original artist,
and even the SDK Babies.
No particular date.
It'll just be when
there's a quorum. We want
new collections to soar,
whether it's ours or whether it's yours.
We want those collections to do well. whether it's ours or whether it's yours, we want those collections
to do well.
Hopefully not too long.
I can't wait to get those
dolphins out there.
You guys take your time.
I believe you know what you're doing,
of course. When it's going to
be the right time, it's just going to be the right time.
I guess that's it.
I would love to do it by summer, which sounds like a million years away, but it's just gonna be the right time i guess that that's it i would love to do it by
by summer which i mean sounds like a million years away but i think it's fitting for summer
like the whole vibe of the boys is literally a summer vibe that's when people go clubbing right
you know you're talking to the wrong guy for that but i'll take your word for it
okay yep all the IVs authorities,
yeah.
Go clubbing.
The Dolphins going to the club.
Yeah, so they're clubbing.
Aaron, keep up.
Well, you know,
it's not my jam.
I'm a homebody.
No, they're trying to get into the club.
The 4-Day Yacht Club.
Going clubbing.
No, I mean, I definitely understand the collection, Janelle.
You and I came up with the collection together,
but I'm talking about in real life clubbing is not my jam.
Never.
It's not my jam, too.
As a dolphin, yes.
But as a human, not really.
Right.
Yeah, same for me.
As a dolphin, yes, I love going clubbing.
All right.
So I want to look through the comments here
and see if anybody was like, I can't get up on stage,
but there's something I want to say.
De Nero, how you doing?
Good to see you.
Bad Ted Yacht Club club i love it putting in there's a bad
ted with uh you know the unvault logo that's cool jose uh oh jose picked up a bad ted oh that's a
nice one it's like uh i forget what they call it. Noise.
It's like noise for, I don't know.
Hizzy, good to see you.
Hey, Screamwriter Dave.
Kapow.
E-Money.
Good to see you as well. Love the E-Money.
Love the E-Money pictures as always.
Simon Bob.
Hello.
Jeffrey Reno.
Hello.
Oh, thank you.
Here, let me share this.
Let's see.
How do I...
Why can't I just share this to the space?
Hmm.
I thought I'd be able to just share it to the space.
Hmm.
Well, I'm not able to.
Here.
Oh, let's see.
That.
This. Oh, gosh. I don't know. I'm not able to Oh Let's see That This Oh gosh
I don't know
I can't
Is that it?
No I can't find it
I tried
Mercury's in retrograde
So nothing's gonna work
properly
Until like
That's fine
There you go
Stuart
And Planet X
Good to see all you
And Probable Spam These people don't look like Spam Portuguese Good to see all you and Probable Spam
these people don't look like Spam
Portuguese good to see you
Fofo
that looks like Spam
and that looks like Spam
but the other ones don't
good to see everybody though
alright
I'm putting a last call out here
meaning that if you want to come up on stage
or ask a question
or just say hi,
now's the time. And by the way, programming note, starting next Wednesday, we're on Coffee
with Captain every week. I think, unfortunately, at 5.45 a.m. It's like he doesn't understand that
there are people that live on the West Coast. But we love Cap. But 5.45 a.m., that's, in a world of problems,
that's probably the worst problem out there, right?
Okay, no, not really.
So DMs are open, as Ernest would say.
Should you want to talk about your collection
that you were a founder of,
perhaps you are an artist who would like to join Unvaunt,
or even a community member who wants to hook up a founder.
Our DMs are open.
Feel free to DM me personally
or here on Unvault.
Red Gold Queen,
anything you want to tell us
before we get out of here?
Yes.
Sorry.
I just smoked my first smoke of the day.
Congratulations.
Really blessed.
Really glad I catch up your space. I actually miss Janelle.
I think we didn't host a Monday space lately,
but I'm so happy to see you're doing great, that you're all doing good.
Can't wait for the involved.
And that's the way to go. Multi-chain. I think that's that's the way to go multi-chain I think
that's a really good way to go
and thank you for
hosting thank you for having me
embrace
I missed you hosting shows with us for sure
you're always fun to hang out with
Janelle anything you want
to say before we get out of here
we might pick it up again soon.
I think we'll just pause it for a little bit.
Stick to these spaces.
Yeah.
I'm following
along though, Molly. You see we've got all
sorts of exciting things going on.
We'll have to catch up soon.
All right.
Okay, well, thank you everybody for coming out. We appreciate you, Janelle catch up too. All right. Okay.
Well,
thank you everybody for coming out.
We appreciate you Janelle and red goat queen.
Thanks for coming up on stage.
Also,
money was up here as well.
Aaron Haber.
Sorry.
You couldn't make it up,
buddy.
you know,
technical difficulties.
Better luck next time.
Better luck next time.
Everybody here in the audience,
hanging out with us.
We do appreciate you very, very much.
Thanks for coming by.
Thanks for being part of the next phase of NFTs, the multi-chain phase.
And we look forward to seeing you.
We'll be back on Tuesday.
Yeah, Tuesday at 11 a.m. Pacific time for the next edition of Unvault.
We'll see you on the timeline.
Bye, everybody.
Bye-bye. Thank you.
