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NO CAP GAMING | EP12: Ultimate Tier List of Everything
Recorded: June 12, 2025 Duration: 1:01:19Space Recording
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Thank you. Gunned up brain dead, I can't decide.
You can't bring enough, you can't hide.
You can be good or you can't hide you can be good you can cry do it wrong not at all do it right
no one owes you no one's to blame sick or bad genes or dna
Bad genes or DNA?
Ask your conscience the why and how.
Do it then, do it when, but do it now.
What's up?
What's up?
Sweet case.
Can't lose him.
Can't lose him anyway.
Any way of girls. I'm not there. DJ. I don't feel anywhere here, anywhere else.
Girls.
Girls.
Easy.
I hate you.
What you gonna do, little buckaroo?
When you're at house and I see.
Here you gotta do.
Happy food is asking love. No, we all can be super fly.
GQ, PhD, FBI.
You can pretend and you can try. Move ahead, lay down dead or sleep on by.
When the show seems so far away, who loves you and achieves the same?
You need answers for your dismay.
Ask your mom, ask VMA.
What's up, I'm sleeping. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I Eat
What you gonna do little buck
Yeah, you gotta be
Yeah, just ask your mom
It's just ask your mom. Do, do, do.
Just ask your mom.
Do, do, do.
Ask your mom.
Do, do, do.
Yeah.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
Come on, come on. Let's go. hello hello hello hello hello hello do we exist do we exist i'm gonna be invited to go host again and let's see
if this crashes everything yet again please please let's hope it works this time it's like
the fifth time i know bro i know every time i press it like i lose sound i get kicked to
listen immediately i can't google it's down google it's down and yeah, the internet is playing silly bugger.
And we are in another episode of No Gaming.
We have a fantastic, fantastic episode today.
And we got so many people up in his house today.
I can see Avalanche.
Sent an invite.
Good, because...
By the way, how are you guys doing?
Yeah, very good, very good very good man exciting
times exciting times i was talking to the legendary spang of avalanche um i can't i just i
wish i could accept the co-host because i just want to invite everyone up we have star platinum
up in the his house everybody star please write a thread about this space so we get four billion
views um as as you do or at least just
repost it to your 10 quadrillion followers um and uh or make a comment follow the people up here
like and subscribe i mean i'm free like normally i'm chained to the laptop so
and you're gonna have to expect a whole new level of fruitiness today because i'm allowed to walk
around which makes me far more dangerous and i'm slightly drunk because i was at a party for an ai company today in gaming so it was good
party mood then we're having a party mood no cat gaming i'm all hyped for this are you doing simon
i'm very good very good very busy having lots of fun yeah just uh hyped at the moment bullish and um
what a lineup of people we've got on this panel are you also tipsy uh not quite i've uh cracked
a cider but um it might take a little while um but yeah i'd like to use this as an excuse for
a little drink um why not let's make it fun've got some fun people here today. Shout out to everyone in the audience. We could have so many of these people up on stage.
Let's just invite everyone and they can see if they can fight for a spot.
Well, we managed to get Matt a co-host, so we could now.
Yeah, exactly. I keep inviting Avalanche, but they keep just...
I see them on stage.
Okay. Well, I don't...
I see them on stage. Because X see them on stage because x is just
horribly broken avalanche who's buying the account today my beloved i'm up here i think i'm up here
yeah sneaky che uh behind the account but i will keep accepting your invites to anything matthew
oh that's that's adorable i will accept your invite to um to the next summit destination i got
i got clued in on the internal battle of where you want to have it.
And let's just say, I hope you guys win, man.
I hope you guys win.
It's just so good.
It's so good.
I'm so bummed that we're not doing stream because I'm actually wearing an
Avalanche t-shirt right now with says, Avalanche bros are cooking.
And I got this from NFT Paris from a couple of years back.
And damn, I wanted to flex it.
Oh, hell yeah.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah, sorry, everyone, for not having the stream this week.
We're having some issues with StreamYard as well.
So it's only a space today, but it's still going to be fun.
Yeah, I mean, I think Google's having some issues with something. so that's why stream mode is down and apparently half the internet is down yeah
it's just the internet in general it's the internet in general please don't fly please don't go and
operate any heavy machinery that requires to um connect to the internet don't touch your smart
fridge it's currently poisoning and by introducing all sorts of bacteria i do think the
smart fridges are one of the hilarious things you can hack if you were a state actor just to
make everyone really pissed off turn off their bridges overnight or make them really really
like high power and then freeze all that stuff so yep it's all good but we got some great people in
the house we got some great people in the house let's get some interest on let's get this room shared camel i haven't seen you in an in a while how's it going guys i'm just
glad to be here i'm glad to you know not be heads down in telegram chats talking to people 24 7. just
excited to run my mouth uh maybe take some hot takes in here i don't know i don't know where
we're going i heard
some people in some avalanche merch so you know my first hot tape would be i hate the avalanche
intern because it has been years i've known the avalanche interns so there's been several then i
have not once ever received avalanche merch but they did collect my address so i'm not sure what
they're doing with that they might be selling selling the data. I have no idea.
Have you tried being a hot girl camel?
Have you tried being a hot girl?
Because Cavanagh does like that a lot.
I have.
I have.
And I think Coop's all right through it.
So, you know, that's, you know, kudos to Coop for that one.
I thought I could get him, but I didn't.
I mean, the next plan I have is to just grow a fantastic ginger mullet.
I think if I grow a massive mullet, I actually told Will Spangler today, I will grow an a fantastic ginger mullet i think if i grow a massive mullet i actually told will spangler today i will grow an aussie style mullet if you guys uh give us some more
love yeah what do you think of that we need to see it it's gonna be all you know technical
chain at the front and uh game chain at the back.
I mean, you're going to end up looking like that guy.
You know, you're not a guy that does the meme,
get a brain morons.
You're going to look exactly like that. Yeah, I will.
Yeah, I will.
It's going to be fantastic.
I'm going to shave into a handlebar moustache as well
just for the extra joy on this one.
Yeah, we have the Shaolin up in his house. We have Marcello. We have Soplanum. Shaolin, how are you doing, my friend?
Doing well. Super bullish given that, you know, it's the first time StreamYard's ever rugged us.
So, you know, even though I can only go half the time, you know, the summer school summer for me will be fun because
it'll be pushed back an hour so I can go back to, you can see my ugly mug again.
But outside of that, man, I'm waiting to talk about this topic, ultimate tier list of everything.
I usually know the list of some things, but everything, let's go.
Yeah, no, I'm bullish on this one.
Star Platinum in the his house, gracing us with the presence today on the day that Google died.
How are you, bro?
Man, I'm doing fantastic.
Excited for this space.
I mean, I fucking love the Adelis.
I love the spicy takes.
So I think it's going to be a really, really fun space.
So, yeah, I was having formal for the stream.
I was prepared. I had everything but Google rugged us.
It's cool anyway.
Sorry man, next time.
Bro, seriously, to get rugged by Google when we have the stackedest of stacked panels,
and no offense to the rest of the guests, but you know, it's high quality today.
We've got people you have to buy thousands of dollars worth of just to talk to and um that makes me bullish sobound talking about buying thousands of
dollars worth of how are you doing man hello doing amazing marcello here how are you guys
doing happy to be here much oh let's go and i'm happy to see yo i'm happy to see camel i'm playing
sugar town literally right now while i'm on this space, bro.
Can I kick the other Marcello?
So that we can invite someone else up?
Yeah, kick me out.
Kick me out.
I'll skip behind Soulbound.
Cool, cool, cool.
We're moving you.
We're going to bring up someone else from the audience.
Who's he going to be?
Who's he going to be?
Next, we haven't heard you in a while yeah so you can come on
is matt tier ranking the audience already i was gonna say that's our first tier list should we
should we tier tier rank the audience but actually everyone turned up they're all s tier
including my favorite tiny pudgy hannah who's been following us for like a bajillion years
from the sidelines um and in the community as well.
Big props to Hannah out there rocking that ping.
And yeah, I see some personas in the audience as well.
We've got some really cool things.
I also see a Capybara.
So we're all good.
And I see some stone frogs, which is generally the sign of a good space.
So let's kick it off. And who else do we need?
Who else do we need to come up
and talk about some shit?
I think we're good.
I think we're ready to go.
What about Pipedown with the pipe dreams?
They're on stage.
Let's go.
Yeah, let's talk.
Hey, hey, hey, guys.
This is Pipedown in particular.
It's Matzi, aka Matzi This is PipeGDAO. In particular, it's Matsi, aka MatsiramaGuchi.wat.
I'm the founder, the boss, the don, hefe, captain and commander of the PipeGDAO project.
Welcome.
That's a title and a half. I give that an S tier via an introduction. There we go.
a half i i give that s tier via an introduction there we go all right so this is the ultimate
tier list of everything so this is a good space for audience participation because i'd love to
see your comments i'd love to see you ranking various things and um we we got to get started
with um with the big ones with the big ones what what would you say is being your favorite tier
list drama um so far because everyone likes to push a tier list and
then getting getting some shit for it do you remember that kid who pushed the gaming tier
list and i think the entirety of a change has mocked him to death i think that pretty much
happens every time a gamer if it's not an influencer if it's a gamer gamers can't publish
tier lists i don't think i'll start blasting i
mean you definitely have some tier list experience my friend can you give us the lowdown on how to
survive publishing a tier list oh man i mean i have received like some food i remember that
and this post was special because it was like the first boss i ever had with more than hurricane impressions which was
really wild and it was a checklist that i made around mean coins i put like no it wasn't it
wasn't about me because that one was about nft collection i put a mean coin collection is the
sproto grand limbs i don't know if you know it but i remember that i put like i was checking the art
of the collection i was like this is I was checking the art of the collection.
I was like, this is fucking horrible.
I mean, the art is horrible in my opinion.
But all the poor Minko community behind that NFT project came after me.
I received a lot of DMs like,
you're fucking shit.
You're telling this ass, you're an asshole.
I need to,
I think that you need to find a line between,
okay, if I mess around with these guys,
I will receive some funds.
So I want to, I don't know, it's hard.
It's hard to make a tier list and make everyone happy.
It's so hard to do that.
You always have to deal with the spicy takes always.
So that's part of the game. Game is game. If you have to deal with the spicy takes always so that's part of the game game is
game um if you have these feelings with someone even it's bad feelings that also gives you engage
so it's not that bad i think but yeah i mean that was my worst experience and overall i really enjoyed
the game the web3 gaming tier list because there is always some food between teams i mean and there is always
an inter reply that cracks me up so that's i would say that those are my favorites
we had the wilder one uh recently didn't that didn't we i can't remember who it was that
posted a tier list and wilder world weren't very happy about it and decided to do their
own creator tier list um and that didn't go down too well no i i've wanted to do one of those for a
long time i'm proud of wilder world for taking my intrusive thoughts and making them a reality
because i've made my creator tier list um and it would have dropped some drama but what can you do
i think there's a time and a place i've had some funny marketing campaigns like that i've drafted
up kind of tied in something similar but it's funny i mean at the end of the day like it's all
shits and giggles here like you know yeah it sucks being on the bottom it's amazing being on the top
but like more than anything people are only going to talk about drama not the actual games so like
that's literally what we're doing here yep so so may as well do it, right?
Exactly.
So, you know, I think Purple Gatorade's the best one,
and Yellow Gatorade is at the bottom of the tier list.
You know, I think Gatorade is banned in the UK because it's just too toxic.
Well, yeah, see, that's another thing.
I think the UK's on the bottom of the tier list of countries, too.
I thought that was Mountain Dew as well.
Yeah, I believe so. at least you can't get it
over here uh yeah it's nice though i like it but yeah i wouldn't rate i would definitely wouldn't
put the uk at the bottom but i wouldn't put it that high uh i would definitely not put mountain
dew very high on the tier list i tried to drink it because you know it's apparently a fuel of
gamers and it just tasted like someone had poisoned medicine and then made it even sweeter.
Imagine, like, it sounds like a taste of diabetes.
It's like, if you could taste diabetes, that's the taste.
I have to ask, I have to ask, what's on the other side of the spectrum?
What's the best drink?
Yeah, what's the best drink?
Okay, let's do this.
Tier list, best drink. Go, pipe best drink okay let's do this tier list best drink
um go pipe down you can pipe up bourbon that's bourbon bourbon all right audience audience rate
bourbon you know give it give it give it a tier list from like s to f and then we'll go next
darlin shallin what's your best drink oh you, you know, it's funny. You're talking about soda.
I actually love Jolt Cola.
If we could tier like energy drinks, I would love to type like double down on that because, you know, as a gamer and we would have like these land parties growing up. Oh, man, it would always be like Jolt Cola, Mountain Dew, anything that had the highest amount of caffeine possible before Red Bull came out and was a thing.
That was like the level seeker.
We'd go to like the worst and best convenience stores to find the most random drinks.
You know, even like RC Cola.
Like there are just so many different things and they weren't using corn syrup at the time.
Right. So like Joel Cola was amazing because not only did it have caffeine, but it was real sugar.
So you got your sugar highs as well as your caffeine.
It was a perfect intersection.
That's amazing.
And I'd have to rock it for my student days for the little-known energy drink called Shark.
I don't know if anyone has ever tasted Shark.
God, it was terrible.
It was like a Europe-exclusive Red Bull knockoff.
Like burn.
It was like pure fucking vodka.
It was like the vodka of energy drinks. but we're talking about good things and you're going back oh god but it was so good man it was every
time you have a high in apex you gotta go low you gotta go low it's just contrast exactly like that's
my s tier drink as far as energy drink ratings going so so guys sorry so i keep hearing cheerless and forgive
me what the do you mean by this oh is this like are we yeah what does tier list mean in this
context what what tiers are we talking about like um so just so i can get into the groove here because
i'm so it's just ranking things right in terms of how good they are anything so like you have s tier
a tier b tier c i posted one in the comments, actually.
I'm going to see if I can actually put it in the nest.
Before I heard of S tier, though, I used to, especially in gaming,
I always have God tier.
Did anybody else use the word God tier?
God tier, like, that was the thing.
But S tier came from the Asian games, like Japanese games,
when they were like, let's invent a letter better than better than a
and it was special which now just means retarded i mean you know there was a kind of tier list that
i you know sort of jealous that i did in sixth form was like 20 years ago now right so i can't
believe i did this stick form so you're british then i'm zimbabwean but yeah, also a British citizen, yeah
There we go
and was it the Hot Girls tier list?
Oh yes, yes
I think everyone
Shall we do that?
Shall we do that?
It's nuts
In Stigform College here in the UK
in my arrogance
oh my goodness oh i i actually
published i wrote a list of you published yeah me did you go still a revenge deal list with you on
it i i um i don't know but i i ranked all the girls and and and like hey here's the here's my
list and i made sure that all the girls
knew and i was like oh man i got so much for that this is like i mean this is like you can tell you
grew up kind of before the internet because you would have never tried that as a no no no no oh
oh odd what imagine posted that no no no it was it was it was handwritten it was handwritten at
the time uh i just imagine you like depending on this
like you're fucking
saying to the door
of the church,
here's my tier list.
The girls in sixth form,
you are hot
and you are not.
Who's the top girl?
Who's the top girl
on my tier list?
You know,
I can't even remember
but I was actually
the student governor
of my sixth form college
as well.
Even worse.
Oh boy.
Abuse of power as well.
Yeah,
I was elected as a landslide.
Was that after the tier list you got?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It was after the tier list.
So it was even more like jarring.
Who the fuck does this guy think he is?
I don't see you getting re-elected after that one.
No, no.
Obviously, I went off to university after
that right so you know it was a you know so you escaped escaped before it got too too hard yeah
but i think better myself well i actually did that didn't i jesus jesus youthful youthful arrogance
so uh i'm glad i grew up before camera phones bro i am like i am thankful for that like imagine that like growing up with every
embarrassing thing that you've done recorded and posted to tiktok yeah yeah and it was also like
i did um what's it called so so this was back in the day of msn messenger and stuff like that was
the thing you know everyone used to everyone was on m at the time. So this was like pre-social media thing as well.
So yeah, I'm that old.
But yeah, that's my tier list experience.
That is a doozy of a tier list experience.
That is a doozy of a tier list experience.
Avalanche Gaming, you obviously have a very biased take on tier lists,
but I'd love to hear your intern intern tier list take no no i was just gonna say i you guys tell me if i'm capping but i'm pretty
sure like one of the most valuable companies in the world started off as a tier list i think
facebook meta started off as a way for dudes to creep on girls at the harvard campus or whatever and it's literally called
facebook because you would put like the faces of girls online and rate them and basically make a
tier list yeah exactly and that is a terrible terrible story of how the slimiest looking man
alive became you know um one of the biggest billionaires.
We have to say terrible, of course, and this is a terrible, terrible thing that he did.
Yes, absolutely.
I don't know what else.
You can't speak, man, because you literally did the same thing.
You just hand wrote it.
If you'd have coded that, you could have been a billionaire, my friend.
Trillionaire, bro.
You could have been massive.
Yeah, instead you're in this space on crypto twitter like come on
i mean bro seriously the only thing i can remember is the tier list of girls um
backing in the day because there was a girl called helen stewart cox and she was just
fucking hot and that's the only one because i okay let's move on from the yeah is this recorded
because i think i think it should be i think we're incriminating ourselves
yeah no it's good it would have been recorded but google's down so probably not um so we're
all safe i guess um but yeah yeah, let's start ranking stuff.
Let's start ranking normal crypto stuff for everyone.
And this is not financial advice.
What we say here is to be taken with liberal salt mine of salt.
And yeah, we know nothing.
So just expect that we're going to start ranking things and you will hate it.
And then we're going to post them all and have drama tomorrow.
So that's going to be fun. So let's gonna be fun so let's start ranking stuff let's start ranking stuff anyone got anyone got any good subjects should we rank web3 games oh yes should we go straight there all right should
we start at the s tier is that the ship tier or the lowest oh I mean dude, 99% of the space is not going to be in the S tier.
So I thought we'd start with the ones
that we can at least remember.
I think Off the Grid is obviously the first one
that you could run.
Okay, Off the Grid, S tier.
I think Sugar Town is another S tier for sure.
Okay, S for Sugar.
Non-biased opinion.
Yeah, that's non-biased. based on my own gameplay of the ecosystem you know you have all the things that's happening there how are you not ceo already bro
um honestly that's i think it's because i just don't want to do the like admin work
we need to cto it so that you can actually be the CEO of Sugartown.
I'm basically the CEO.
You are.
That is definitely true.
All right, so we've got Sugartown and we've got Off the Grid in S.
Where are we going to put MapleStory?
I don't think it's S because I'm kind of bored of Pixel Art.
I haven't played it, but it I kind of am bored of Pixel Art. I haven't played it,
but it sounds like it's been received quite well.
Of course it has
because people who are very popular
have made bajillions of money.
Like, always.
Yeah, I think...
I feel bad doing this
because I wouldn't put that many up there
on S tier, honestly.
Okay, so Pirate Nation?
Pirate Nation?
Tell me where you placed them.
Wait, so MapleStory in this space
is recorded also on S tier.
Okay.
It's recorded,
so I'm going to say it's an A tier
just because I'm contrary like that.
It looks pretty S tier, I think. what about pirate nation i've heard pirate don't fight guys don't fight
let's bring but this is the point why are you guys calling off the grid s here supposed to be a
triple a game right i don't get it s tier is the highest tier yeah How are we reviewing it? Are we reviewing it by the quality of the game?
So, S2 is the highest tier, right?
Okay, cool.
Yeah, we're reviewing it by the quality of our opinions, essentially,
and how well we can argue our case.
We're doomed.
I think we're just trying not to get cancelled, more than anything.
Okay, well, this is going to go badly for us.
I'm trying to call Gaspo up because he's actually played every game we're just like kind of guessing on a lot of these games aren't we
for example let's say x infinity where would you place that
oh oh the hornets have been open oh my. He does want to get us canceled.
But those that hang on until they went down to like Peanuts,
it's going to be like lowest tier.
So I think it does depend on
how long you rode the wave.
All right.
In that case, that makes it mid.
That makes it mid.
So we'll give it a B.
Give it actually a B
because it's going to look for the industry
in some ways
yeah exactly what about what about night crows what are we what are we thinking of night crows
you can just speak you don't have to put your hands up just shout at us it's all good i haven't
played night crows but i want to throw cambria in there s tier sorry i'm sorry sorry for the
pixelated i know you don't like them, but I'm gonna throw it up there
Okay, and is this just gonna be all the games we have bags
Well in that case I just want to throw that every abstract game should be an S here and God's camo
What
Especially road racing
especially Especially road tracing. Mega S tier. Mega S tier.
You want to talk about a really smart team, though?
The road tracing team is actually super
intelligent and kind. Some of the most
prompt responses I've gotten are from those guys.
I have mad respect for that.
It's just they've got nothing to do because their game was so easy to make.
Then you make it.
That's where you get prompt.
That's where you get prompt responses.
From next week, listen,
the way this is going,
we're going to have to rename this space
to Kiss Ass Gaming.
Seriously.
This is like, you know,
chowing on the cock of your fucking employer
fucking session.
You know, get, nah, fucking be real, guys.
Be honest.
Come on, you're safe.
For real.
Do you know who you booked me in this room?
I ain't getting my ass cancelled?
I'm playing an S tier in my book,
except for Avalanche Intern F tier over there.
Avalanche Intern Respond.
Have you guys ever played Starship?
Do you remember that one?
Nope.
That's an instant S for me.
Yeah, yeah.
It came out like, you know, you know tail end of last cycles the ss
token it was on um uh what the is that chain called it was an eos base okay it's
going to be definitely bad then we don't even remember the change okay so that that that ss token on on bnb on bnb chain is as it's now called
but it was also on uh wax do you remember wax oh god no everything on there should die um
it's it's basically like the cardano gaming chains and so let's not go there all right i've got one
i've got one for you like where do we rate star
atlas on this they're very nice team very good we all love them but you know what do you think
of the actual game that exists if it does um so i was actually today years old when i found out
that star platinum and star atlas are different so i'm gonna opt out of this one oh that's good i'm gonna give it a solid c before we get on that
doesn't star atlas have like multiple games now they got like a first person shooter or something
i'm confused um yeah but none of them are really that playable i mean you get anyone who has a copy
of unity can have a first person shooter in about a week. So don't put too much thoughts in that or a copy of Unreal.
And now with AI even quicker.
Yeah, exactly.
It literally loads with a copy of a first-person tutor
and it's called default project,
which is about 80% of the space, I think.
So there we go.
I agree with you, Matt, on that one.
Are we writing these down, actually?
Is anyone writing them down or are we just saying them um well the space is recorded we can take notes afterwards
yes let's do that and let's publish them and then get cancelled
we say camel opted out of everything and said everything was s so we love that is not true i
called avalanche f and not not the Nope, every single game on Avalanche also
F because of the intern.
I think Camel was officially banned
from Avalanche.
Invalid opinion right there.
Oh, dearie me.
I'm keeping it real.
The KOLs, they
give me F tiers because I don't
pay them. Avalanche is getting an F tier
in all their games because they don't send me merch.
Fair.
Harsh, but fair.
What about Nichros?
Everyone hates this game, but it's actually the only game
in the space that makes real money.
What are we rating it, guys?
It looks pretty good.
I haven't played it.
What are we saying?
I have another one. What do we rate
NFL rivals?
Oh, I'd say A.
I'd say A. That's a solid A.
I'm not betting it on being the
defining game of the space.
That is a fucking solid
solid A on that one.
I'd give Nightcrow a solid A as well, at least, I think.
I think so. Yeah, I think on that one. I'd give Nightcrow a solid A as well, at least, I think. I think so.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
I mean, it looks decent.
It's not that bad.
So I think it deserves an A
for being a Web3 game.
And what do you think, Starplatt?
I never try A,
so I'm not biased here.
But if you say A,
I will say A.
I don't know.
Yeah. We're just bringing you in here, so you have to count.
We're going to say, like, stop battling Mendoza Binion tier list.
Where do you think, if Off the Grid is S tier in Web3, where do you think it would be in gaming period?
I'd say it would be an high B.
By B.
It's not a bad game.
I think a high B.
A good B.
You have to remember you competing against
behemoths like Fortnite
and Apex.
B is good.
B is really good though compared to
all the giants, right?
Exactly.
R-Space is basically fighting
with retards that um have one hand tied behind their back so you know they're gonna do better
and a lot of the most popular games probably wouldn't get s tier right because actually a lot
of them pretty garbage compared to their earlier yeah no dude i mean this is this is not a this is
not a tier list we could show an actual person this is just for us in our secret little space that no one no one knows about all right how about bornless bonus looks really good i want
to play that a lot it's fucking fun man i want it to be i want it to be high i want it to be high
is it live no they do like random play tests every now and then so you gotta catch those but
it's fine random play random play tests as opposed to actually releasing the game.
Yeah, that takes you down a couple of days.
That's a C.
That's probably the game I've most hoped for, though, in terms of...
It looks good.
It does, it does.
Did Yuga Labs ever release that fucking Bored Ape Yoko?
Good question.
What the fuck happened to me?
F tier.
They raised a hundred million
dollars and it's like
what's going on? No dude they were at five
hundred million. Three hundred and fifty on
the over deed sale.
Three hundred and fifty million on the over deed sale.
And then there was the
ApeCoin cash grab, like
blatant in my opinion.
No one wants to be cancelled, we're getting a lot of
touchdown on this one.
Is that the biggest game rug
of the space?
They're supposed to be doing a
metaverse as well. What the fuck happened to all
of that?
Pipe
out finds that he's cancelled
tomorrow. So I would like to say that
Dookie Dash was a really fun game.
I enjoyed it on my phone.
It was quite fun.
They sold it, right?
Did they sell it?
Yeah, I heard they sold the rights to Dookie Dash
to another
production company.
Well, I'm going to give Dookie an A because, you know, they tried, but it's
basically impossible.
It's impossible to monetize any of those runner games as, as like Temple Runners tried for
the last 20 years, almost.
So I'll give an A because great game, terrible choice of genre.
Has anyone played any of the Goblin Town games?
Bro, I would, yo, you read my mind. I was literally about to say that one. That looks fun. terrible choice of genre what has anyone played any of the goblin town games bro i would yo you
read my mind i was literally about to say that looks fun so yeah i actually played dmv simulator
it was really fun and having gone to the dmv recently it was basically the same experience
but i did spend less time in the line and the goblin town game than in the actual dmv so you
know s tier it definitely reminded me of how much of a godless
shithole the dmv is uh so your actual unironic big shout outs to the team over at true for that
one s tier i love it i love it instant s tier we'll do that put that up there camel you had
your hands up um yeah oh yeah i wanted to throw zed run into the conversation yep that's quite a good one that's quite a good one what do we think do we think it's like
impactful or do we just think it's kind of fun punish game because like b is still good you know
a is like you know this game is probably going to make that studio survive b is like this is a
solid star because the early well the concept came so long ago as well i think they deserve a lot of
credit for that i think uh all right let's um and what about um the other zombie games
any any any good any good those because i think they've done more than one right
or they're at least doing more than one the only one i know i could think of right oh yeah i know
just bornless but uh the other one i was thinking was undead blocks are they still around undead blocks is that it yeah I don't know I give them a beat
yeah why not why not b-em-up didn't we talk to them recently like a day bro
okay I'm gonna ask because I don't know if you even refer this as a game, which is more like, I don't know, kind of a project.
The Sandbox, where would you put that?
D. D. Solid D.
I mean, they raised a bajillion dollars to make a Minecraft clone
that works nothing like Minecraft, looks worse than Roblox.
And they, like, literally, I love sebastian borger he's got this
really weird habit of every time i turn up in any kind of thing he's just leaving i don't know if
he if he just feels my presence and goes but that game sucks ass bro and it really does like if i
was to spend 500 jillion on a game and get that i I would cry. I would spend all my days crying.
It's like a billboard rental game.
Yeah, it's instant base as well,
which is a concept that is like so far back in the early 2000 even.
Every single place that you want to visit, you have to load.
It's like, wow.
And everything was flashed.
It was just like, do you know what we're gonna do
we're going to do the absolute least we're gonna create a giant big flat empty minecraft world
and uh you know have at it buy stuff and then do nothing with it while we're at it decentral land
it was coming
yeah I know I felt it I had to say it
well how about
and this is gonna be
really weird because I know a lot of people
how they feel about it I'm just gonna
go to one to the next
Blocktopia
oh god man
I'll give them a C just because you know
they're better than Sandbox,
but that's a bitter C.
That was such a scam.
Did they actually release their Metaverse thing?
Did they actually release their product?
I played the beta when they were, like, doing some testing
and sharing, like, block tokens for playing the game.
But it was darn awful. it's like the quintessential
2021 project i think i think we should have a special tier list for 2021 projects that is just
like it's just like the retard tier list because basically they got all the money and none of the
idea what to do and then they were like let's just fuck it all let's just get every kol ever to pump
this makes a lot of money i know that because kols were free man 21 was just like easy mode
you literally had to give a whitelist to a bro and they would shill you hard and that whitelist
was like a 1s mint or something fucking horrible like that yeah people
did it man they did they literally queued up for that shit i think ethereum foundation probably
made more money on the other deed sale than the last three years of ethereum yeah then there was
i mean i mean there's one that i'm still i've still got land on called network remember that one no no yes this is forgettable after i can tell you another
one that will probably spike up you know lots of opinion big time oh i uh i think i remember that
one yeah people loved it people really bullish where's ryan where's Ryan from Openloot? Where is he?
I thought it was around.
Where is Openloot?
They were here. Did they run away?
No, I don't think he was here.
I thought Openloot was here.
I remember saying, talking about...
No, I haven't looked.
Anyway, all good.
I would give Big Time
a seat. they because yeah but they tried a
little harder than the other terrible games okay another one another one project zero project oh
what do you think card game lots of love on the timeline is that the one the apex works for a
on the timeline is that the one that apex works for a i think so yeah definitely s um i've taken
a meeting with their team super smart guys like actual cool product i've not had my hands on it
yet but like any team that hires any picks as a team that's worth being an s tier i'm just gonna
be real with you yeah no i i agree wholeheartedly the fact fact that they gave out PSA 10 Charizards at the Wolf Den
just endeared me to them instantly.
That was just too nice, man. Too nice.
Talking about card games, I'm curious
because there was Ubisoft that came out with Champion Tactics.
I want to know what you guys thought of that.
I thought that was terrible, mate.
Yeah. Lots of development.
They spent a ton on that thing because you could see that there,
the full-on studio, like, building it up.
Graphic wasn't that bad.
Concept wasn't bad either, but playability and the way that they got
stormed by exploiters and people utilizing their platform to rank up the
chart, oh, my God.
Yeah, that was a debacle
yeah so there was no no sugar town by zynga that's for sure but you know we did get them to publicly post about our coursement so i'm gonna give them an s here i can't believe oh my god
i literally told you like 10 months before the zinger would abandon you and leave you alone and
desperate and you were like no man they'll never abandon us they didn't abandon us we acquired it
it's completely different you cto'd it because they didn't care anymore but i love you i mean
i mean realistically uh that's what happened was we just wanted to build faster and move faster and
you can't do that when you have a bunch of lawyers looking over your shoulders.
And getting asked,
what did you mean by this tweet?
And like,
it just wasn't going to go on.
So Zynga lawyers, definitely F tier.
Except for
the fact, I have to say
that they're in S tier.
Put them in the S tier.
CamelCelus is just going to be just everything he knows in S
except for Avalanche
except for the Avalanche intern
I want to hear more
I want to hear more from Avalanche
there's a lot of games on Avalanche
besides Off the Grid and MapleStory
what's the S tiers
and well you're not going to tell us
any worse but tell us the S tiers at least
no those are the only two games on on avalanche that's it um no there's there's a
range of you know f tiers you know i think maybe the biggest fall from grace might be shrapnel
for a long time that one was in a lot of like a's and s's you know
i went there all right there's blood, there's Bloodloop,
there's, you know, I think like
smaller games too that are fun are like
Forgotten Playland, Spellborn.
Forgotten Playland.
Forgotten Playland is a solid B.
I would say it's a solid B.
They need to do a bit more.
I'd say it's a B with a potential
for sure.
What about Bloodloop, Chatterline, Strapnel, Ds? a potential for sure yep and what about like blood loop chatter line strap nor d's
oh some of those are f bro yeah they're f man they're dead
all right we need we need a d for dead d for dead yeah yeah maybe it's dead here
uh do you guys remember there's supposed to be a big VR Metaverse game coming out called Solace on Solana?
Whatever happened to that, do you remember that?
Dead.
Yeah, what the fuck?
Definitely dead.
Yeah, all this stuff, just all cash grabs, all unhyped, and they all fuck off.
What about Treeverse?
Has anyone heard from Treeverse recently?
That looked really good.
I haven't played it, but that looked really good.
I like that the cel-shaded kind of Zelda-ish looking games.
I think that if they are able to pull it, you know, to fruition, that could be really fun.
I can't believe you don't like Pixel games, Matt.
What about Pixelmon?
Pixelmon? They're dead, aren't they? D tier? I don't know. I don't like pixel games Matt what about the thing is pixelmon they're dead aren't they
d tier I don't know I don't think so well unless we save them are you talking no there's pixelmon
and then there's someone else pixels pixels is still alive pixelmon is dead are they dead though
because I see them throwing like crazy events at all the conferences that's a big spend
but they don't anymore
let's have a look
I thought they were doing okay
the last I saw was token 2049
we talked to them I thought
it must be someone else
I think they're doing quite well
haven't played
Gaspo knows the answers to all these questions
that we don't know the answers to.
Well, I'm just going to go ahead.
Wait, they said they're building on Avalanche.
Intern, what are you doing? Instant F tier.
Do you guys remember the F8 club?
Nope.
Yeah, that's another dead one.
Well, Pipe G dal got rugged on everything
oh man oh you know thank god thank god i only bought one uh and what's it called so there's
a guy called funky you know funky he's like uh guinness he's a guinness book world record holder
whatever he was one of the co-founders and it was, you know, do you guys remember Wipeout in the 90s?
I love that game.
Anyway,
what's it called?
So it was basically
like a Web3
Wipeout
and then,
you know,
in the end people were saying,
but you're just making
a retro game
which went out of fashion
a long time ago
and,
you know,
it's just about Wipeout and Web3. It didn't go out of fashion. Well, it didn't go out of fashion. No time ago and you know it's just what wipeout didn't go out
of fashion well no no no no no what didn't go i mean but i mean they're just trying to it's like
a it's like a it's like a cheap wipeout knockoff right the original wipeout is still better than
and the soundtrack on the original wipeout was one of the best soundtracks ever. Wipeout 2097 was probably the best soundtrack ever in a game.
No, no, no, no. Need for Speed Most Wanted was the best soundtrack ever in a game.
No, no, no, no. Die Hard...
Riders on the Storm.
I have a heartache.
SX3.
Snoop and the Doors.
SXX game. Die Hard Village was the best soundtrack.
I was reminiscing about Cool Borders the other day and I was thinking,
someone do another one of them.
Are we gonna tier anything else apart from 90% shit games?
That was an F tier interruption there.
F tier comment and heckle from the side
i mean i i'm i'm a lord i'm a lord i'm a star
you're a lord and there we go what about matrix fire
what happened with that i never i haven't heard about that in ages.
Just saying that happened with everything.
They continue building and run out of money.
Tell you what, that Planet X looks quite good.
Have you seen that one?
I think it's on Zy.
Is it Zy?
That looks really cool.
Mobile game.
Then again, I don't trust anything where I just see a video now.
I think it's all in-game footage, though.
Yeah. Yeah, right.
Wilder
World.
I'm a fan of Wilder World. I just love
the ambition.
I want to know, what do you guys think?
What is the biggest
F tier? What's the biggest
flop right now, guys?
I still think Shrapnel is the first one that comes to mind because it was so loved and like you could say because every
single call was paid so hard by crap you could say nothing against it for about 18 months like
despite the fact that they were releasing play tests with untextured assets despite the fact that they were releasing playtests with untextured assets, despite the fact that they were really trying hard to cover it up, how bad it was.
Like, it was just jank, man.
I'd seen student projects play better than this.
I think Rumble Kongs League...
They weren't even fighting the engine.
Oh, yeah.
Rumble Kongs was a big flop.
Didn't they have, like, fucking NBA players backing it up and shit?
I don't think they even told anyone that they were shutting the...
At least on X, I don't think they even told anyone they were shutting it down.. At least on X, I don't think they even told anyone
they were shutting it down.
And that was two weeks after, I think,
their second playtest.
Was that the one where you got banana tokens
just for holding the NFT?
Or am I mixing that with something with the other...
I don't know.
There's an NFT, I think it was,
and then you got banana tokens for holding it
and that ended up being like hundreds of dollars a day or something.
Kongs.
Alpha Kongs.
Alpha Kongs.
Yeah, I think it was Alpha Kongs.
So, yeah, I think I might be confusing the two.
So many fucking Kong and Apes.
Yeah, Rumble Kongs was quite fun.
I thought it was a basketball game with kind of apes.
It was quite fun, but they just, I don't know.
It just feels like people don't try sometimes. They develop it, they release it. And was quite fun, but they just, I don't know, it just feels like people
don't try sometimes.
They develop it,
they release it,
and then like,
people are like,
Why would you try
if you've already raised
the money that you ever
intend for it,
and you have no idea
how much money
games actually make?
Like, if you go into it
and say,
I'm going to make a game,
and you have absolutely
no conception
how much money a game makes,
and you already make
like five million bucks,
you're probably like,
this is how much money a game makes, because I make like five million bucks you're probably like this is how much money a game makes because i feel rich and then you stop yeah that
was a good game um what about trial extreme i've quite enjoyed trial extreme there's another
game from a team that had what is it uh yeah they had a trial extreme game in web 2
and then they
brought it to web 3
quite fun
it's a bit clunky
needs a little bit
of work on a few
of their levels
but I quite enjoyed
that
I think we should
say the audience
should start just
rating games as well
when we
when we spell a game
just write down
the game
and I'll read them
out I'll read out
the audience's
tier lists
feel free to
feel free to put in give us
some ideas of games give us some tier lists otherwise i'm just going to think you know
you're bots and we're not paying for you so someone is um go on gasp boat give us a deal list
it's probably just listening to this being like oh god these retards i'm not even gonna get
we are we are hard work for gasp we are a bit i was i i was hoping we could tear list the countries
that we would all like to retire
to whenever we became massively
successful
Thailand
I'll go first
any British guy
that goes to Thailand especially to retire
he's like
deeply system it's like
deeply system
it's true
it's true
like what are you doing there
like
pipe
pipe
not everybody
is Gary Glitter
right
well my wife
is from Hong Kong
so it'd be quite close
if you're already married
but not Hong Kong
if you're already married
that's legal right
you can go to Thailand if you're already married is that's legal, right? You can go to Thailand
if you're already married.
Is that fair?
I think so, yeah.
Well, my wife's Japanese,
so she's going to outlive
the shit out of me.
There's no escape from me.
I'm going to die
and she's going to live
another half of her life.
That's crazy, man.
And so, you know,
I just retire where she tells me to
because that's where
she's going to live
the next 50 years.
Where she has to look after you yeah exactly portugal i'd retire to portugal yeah
what about you star my opinion young country by far you love you love portugal style yeah i went there last week um i can't confirm this is the best city i
ever been uh lisbon yeah i mean a hundred percent nice i keep hearing good things i used to live in
lisbon and i love it super crypto friendly too it's so nice like crypto friendly it's summer
is fantastic it's got all these purple jess around the trees they sell from australia for some reason
and yeah everything's cheap and the people are kind of nice when they're not stealing from you
but then again that's like crypto people are kind of nice when they're not rubbing you
i think like i will say spain also str i mean if it wasn't because crypto is hated here and taxes
are as hell spain will be the S tier. I'm biased.
I think you know a country is good when someone...
Solid, solid A.
I think you guys are giving a lot of floor takes right now and you know politics aside,
I think the United States would be my answer. I think the geographic beauty of it is...
On geographic beauty, the states, I've got to say, is the S tier. G tier.
G tier.
Yeah, dude.
You can explain it.
Goated, you have every landscape.
But like mentalists, it's also S tier.
So, yeah.
Everybody that picked a European country.
Beauty, government returns.
And anybody that didn't pick a floor country, me, is the smartest person in the room.
Who paid you to say that then, Camel?
Hashtag ad.
He's sponsored by the governor of Denver.
No, dude, no.
You want to talk about Denver? I hate Denver.
Hashtag Denver.
You want to talk about floor city?
I hate Denver more than the normal human being.
I think it's the worst city in the whole world.
What about the whole of Colorado?
Colorado is a beautiful state.
Or Boulder.
Colorado or New England, maybe?
Yeah, no, Colorado is a beautiful state.
Denver is a godless shithole whose whole city is based in false advertisement.
It's not in the mountains.
It's an hour away from the airport.
There's nothing to do there.
It sucks.
There's no reason to go to Denver. And everybody's like, oh, go to Red Rocks. Red Rocks is in Denver. Go
hiking. What about Boulder? Boulder is beautiful. Beautiful city. Right. Yeah. Because I think
I went to Denver and I asked them, do you have any like local food? And they said, no.
Yeah, there is no food. That's the first time I've ever been to a giant city. It's like,
you don't have any local specialties? They're like, no. I was like, what's like that's the first time i've ever been to a giant city it's like you don't have any local specialities they're like no i was like what what's like the denver
thing like everyone does a sandwich in a particular way or something they're like nope
we smoke weed like great have you ever been to ireland that's your thing they just do drugs
i'd say the potatoes ireland doesn't have any particular delicacy there's a denver omelette
i've heard of that it's got soup it's got stew yes weirdly the denver omelette is served exclusively
outside of denver also irish bread is s tier i'm sorry it is okay i i will i will agree with you proper irish because it's not unlike any other bread and um
yeah it goes you can also use it as a shuriken after about five hours
it will kill a man yeah for for for nightlife i know and i know i'm biased but uh for nightlife
and good weather weather and very healthy
takeaway fast food
Athens, you can't beat Athens
and Greece, it's class
Yeah, Athens is a special place
Greece is a special place
Athens is kind of nice
Avalanche, you had your hand up I think
Yo, this is inspiring
me, I think you need to do another
episode in the future
for tier lists for in-person events
and why the Avalanche Summit is at the top of the S tier.
It is.
S tier.
I would agree.
I think Avalanche does do a great job at events.
And I do think events,
most of them are not worth the spend. They're not worth the time. I feel very passionate about that, but I do think Aval them are not worth the spend.
They're not worth the time.
I feel very passionate about that,
but I do think AdWords does a great job at them,
and it actually makes it worth the spend.
We are going to cut that and quote that on the timeline, Camel.
Thank you very much.
We got one compliment from Camel.
Success.
Where are you in the States, Camel?
Because I want to know why you love where you live so much
uh i'm sure you'd like to know um no i'm i'm in virginia if you're familiar i'm not
only only through the um lack of education and the general lowness of all the rest of the
like livable stats i had it's really cheap though and the food is tasty it is depends on where in the state you are like you know just like every country uh you know there's
good places there's bad places but i do love it here i wish i was a little further south into
appalachia but you know that's not the time right now but i love it here it's cheap
that's where uh that's where that's where the hillbilly shoots you
for being different.
Exactly.
But guess what?
You can get cheap property,
you can have a lake,
and you can go fishing every single day.
That's all I want to do.
All I can think of when you said Virginia
is John Carter's movie,
you know, when he goes to Mars
and everybody...
What's your name?
And they're like,
Virginia!
All I can think of about the Appalachians
is what's it called?
When Vito Genovese had all the whole
of the American mafia meet up there
for his coronation,
and they all got busted by the cops.
Honestly, it happens more than you think like it's a
real thing that happens uh throughout there but what can you do it's a beauty it's beautiful nature
it's beautiful what happens every single day you never know what's going to happen out there that's
what makes it beautiful unlike your floor countries like all of europe except for
i'll be scott's not really a part of europe okay okay like i'll say i'd say there is one place
worse than Denver,
and that's from my recent visit, San Francisco.
That's going to be the floor city of the U.S.
That place is terrible, man.
Yeah, but everybody knows San Francisco sucks.
That's the thing.
Nobody knows Denver sucks.
When you go to San Francisco, you know where you're going to get.
And Denver, it's like Denver's like, oh, yeah, we're so great.
We have nature and hiking and skiing and Red Rocks.
No, you don't. You don't have any of that.
You're just like a little city in the middle of the desert.
Like, what the fuck?
You really hate Denver.
I'm hating Denver.
I'm very passionate about disliking that city.
Well, F tier then.
Below F tier, Z tier.
Well, we are at the top of the hour and this has been fun.
I think we could go for a while, but
I don't think we've quite tier listed everything, but
I think we rambled quite well.
I think we tier listed
enough stuff to make us all
cancelled in various many ways, which is
really half the fun of it.
Considering that Google gets an
F tier today for cutting us off
and the audience who didn't repost
and reshare the room also get F tiers.
The rest of you get an S tier, don't worry.
But they get S tiers for actually turning up
and being part of this.
And we love you all.
And we'll be back for another episode
of No Cap Gaming next week,
where we're going to explore some more fun stuff.
And yeah, I hope to have you there.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
Let's get it.
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