Noble Season 3, Episode 1: Cal, the Artist

Recorded: Feb. 14, 2024 Duration: 0:50:40

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What up what up what up
Happy Valentine's Day man, can't wait to finally treat my wife to some flowers and and a dinner
It's gonna be great
To get to take another 364 days off after this could be so cool
Yeah, you're full of it. Oh
What are you guys doing anything special? Yeah, we're going to shooting or going to gun range
Well, it's four years straight where we just go and they put these targets out at our gun range
That you know, they're like zombies, but they have hearts on them and flowers and stuff
So they basically Valentine's Day the the targets so it's kind of fun, you know, you know aim for the aim for the daisies
Aim for the left pink heart, you know, so you just have some fun with it. So pretty sick
I figured you guys would go golfing. Although I'll tell you our gun range. It's interesting. I should take a picture of this. It's a
There's quite the conundrum in our gun range. I think all these new gun ranges are doing this but it's a gun range and
a bar and grill
What part of that does it make sense?
Like all of it basically all of it doesn't make sense
I'm assuming they have some sort of like I don't know wristband policy where you can't go shoot guns after
You've gone to the bar and grill. I'm not sure actually but that's well, yeah, it's pretty interesting
It's a gun range and bar and grill. They just passed along in Jersey that you could carry
But there's certain places obviously you can't carry in a bar and grill is one that you cannot carry because correct
Yeah, well, we've we passed that law in Arizona
200 years ago before it became a state so you in Arizona, you just have to assume
Everybody's concealed carry. Yeah, and you know a lot of us, you know, we have our
You know, we have our carry permits and stuff, but you know, you don't even need them in Arizona
You do it essentially in Arizona to
And just improve your skills and stuff. So you go through these, you know
it's a lot of it's just the skill work and
Conversations you have with your kids and you know proper ways to secure your guns and like kind of stuff
But yeah, it's um, it's fun
How often you go practice more than you should or less? No way less way less than I should I you know
I as at one point I would I would practice securing I still not do this
but I would go through and practice securing my home and I would literally build a
You know bullet point process like if something happened. I would go through this. This is what I would do. We would go here
This is exactly how I was security room, you know, sounds a bit crazy, but you know, it's crazy until it happens
I guess yeah, why don't you say that cuz I I didn't know how to sweep my house like the back and you know
I'm always loaded at night just you know, yeah security purposes ready to lock. Yep
Yeah, so our process is is if you get past the dog you won't
if when you when your when your face is
Flashes being peeled off as you are still making your way back
You know the taser
Debilitates you enough long enough for you know for me to basically
Get you to stand back up and then when you stood up then it's it's game time
So, you know, but it gives me a you know enough time to go get what I need
So that security you can have is a dog man
Yeah, that dog. Well, man, you look at it wrong and it will it'll take your face off, but it's it's sweet
I mean a little lick your face off too
you know, it's that dog, but we're lucky to have a daughter that trains and
You know, she trains stuff for police forces
And I think she sent a dog a couple months ago to secret service
I mean see she trains these diligent mound laws and these mound laws are like the cutest cuddly looking dog
You know cute until you realize they can jump 12 feet high and then also, you know
Basically rip your arm off with you know, 500 pounds of pressure when they go after your arm
Which essentially what that does is this is a great Valentine's Day talk, by the way, too
The dogs I don't know if you know how these work but these bite dogs when they when they hit your arm
It's not the bleeding or you know anything that stops you
It's the pressure and impact and what it does is there's so much pressure on your arm
It essentially cripples you so it just takes your nervous system to zero. You can't do anything and I've had these I've had these
Her dogs come after me with these
You know you put these big this bite clothes on you have these, you know, massively padded arms
And even through the massive padding you can feel you know, the pressure of this dog's, you know jaws
It's it's incredible. So I can't even imagine what that would feel like on a bear
Oh, I mean I can see definitely being crumpled to your knees and not being able to do anything
So honest honestly, you think you could fight a dog off? No, you can't fight that. No, no, you look at that
And you're like, okay, it's 70 pounds. I'll just can't I'll just kick it. No, you won't just kick it
There isn't an adult that can take that dog down. It's
You experience it with all the clothes on and still think the same thing. Like there's no way that can happen
Yeah, I mean you walk around you look like one of these sumo wrestlers, right?
You look like you know that the padded, you know, you put they put all these pads on you to look like a sumo wrestler
That's what you look like and then the arms even got more padding on it, but it's it's insane
It's actually fun to experience too because you get to see how much power. Yeah, this little 70 pound machine has
It's great. All right, dude, let's talk about Bird Rock a little bit
Dude so listen quick glance at this this reminds me of
You know, this is just my observation that I read I see obese and it was like wow that hit me even different
But just dude this super this reminds me of
Drive and at you know, eight nine ten mile run we went on and the the piece the serenity
I mean the it's it's really amazing how he was able to capture all these details in it just so you could hit
You know, it hits his home for me for sure
Especially on that that run where all you're doing is looking around
I mean you've done that run probably hundreds of times and for me, you know
I've only done it once but literally that eight miles felt like ten minutes for us because I was constantly looking over my shoulder
Looking at the scenery the houses. I mean to me it was incredible
You know my observation the guy that I chose was I see obese and you know what he said
I'm gonna I'm gonna read it to you already and and just kind of
Like almost since I'm from the shore being around birds. It just hit me different
And so I see obese said reminds me of the when I would chase sandpipers on the beach
Never caught one, but that didn't stop me from trying
I still try when I visit the ocean just not as hard as I did when I was a kid
Seems the improbability didn't dampen my efforts then as it does now
So when I when I read this man
It immediately took me back to my childhood when I did the same exact thing and even though that I knew I couldn't catch these
These birds. I always tried always wanted to scare them away. I always wanted to try and grab one and
You know, it almost is a testament to you know daily life
You know, like there's certain things that you set your goals to that, you know that you can't reach
But but you still chase after them. It's like, you know shoot for the moon and land on the stars type type thing
So then I you know, it also resonates to me
You know, I take my son to the beach and you know three four years old
Isn't he doing the same exact thing and I'm sure you can attest to this as well and relate to it
Because you have three kids. So so for me it was like this this just hit home for me
There was there was two two scenarios where it's like man that that thing happened to me
Like that's what I still do even though I can't get them
I still try it and it's like a life perspective, you know
There's there's certain things you set your goals to and even though you you may not be able to reach them
You still try for them every single day and that's where the opportunities flow
Amen to that amen to that
That I'll tell you I'm not gonna recite
Timbo's which is who I chose on the observation
I try to when I look at observations
I try to also find you know stuff that I can connect with as well
And I'll never forget that first time I went to a beach, you know, it was in group in, Ohio
In demon or the beach was you see it in pictures, but you don't understand the vastness of it and you know the first time
Mom and dad drove us down to visit our relatives in Virginia
We went to before we did this we went to Myrtle Beach and I'll never forget
You know as as the ocean starts appearing as we're driving up this it just
The feeling of the vastness of what that was and like, you know, you see it in pictures
But then when you you're standing there on the beach
You're it's almost like your eyes are playing tricks with you that like, okay, so this
This is what it looks like
You know, it's a the earth must be flat, right? Look how look how fast that is, right?
You know, so there's a there's a feeling and I still get that every time I go to the beach
Like you said Matt we get to go run out on 17-mile drive a lot and Cal
I don't know that you and I've ever even talked about this. So we may have but this piece
Birdrock I run by this a lot. I cycled by it a lot. I take my kids down. There's a little uh, there's a little cove
Just I guess it would be south of that
Right next to Cypress Point Golf Club where you can get in the water and you know waves are pretty big
But it's it's safe you can get in and it's Lily the next little, you know, kind of Cove next to Birdrock
So I go by that all the time and you're right Matt, you know, you're just you're in tune with nature
You know, you don't have music on when you're running
It's just and it collapses time just like you say we you know
We would go for an hour run and it felt like we were running for 10 or 15 minutes
Now the legs felt like it was an hour run later
But like when you're in the moment, it just you can really start to appreciate all the little things
And that's what Timbo was saying is and his observation was that, you know, you see this vastness
But when you start to kind of tune in there's so much going on. There's there's chaos and there's there's there's triumph and there's
Over here you can see these massive waves crashing across a rock and then just a few feet away
You see this bird standing on top of this rock and it's within inches of being taken out by a wave
But it somehow knows that that way that incoming wave can't get to it, right? So it's like they're they're stealthily
Observant to the entire surrounding so I really connected with that one because that's kind of how I feel when I'm out on the beach
And when I'm when I'm doing these runs, so we just want to welcome you to the stage. First of all, Cal
Thank you for creating a great piece. And I have no idea how you do what you do, which is the size and how
You know how we can go in zoom in on a bird. That's you know out, you know 800 yards from the shore in this piece
But welcome. Welcome to noble. We're excited to have you and I'll let you say a few words
Gentlemen, I wanted to be here deeply grateful and excited about
Collaborating with noble shout out to everyone tuning in so many familiar PPPs
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the observations. I always enjoy
kind of hearing
Not only about my art, but just in general the things that I think about
how other people think about that right because it kind of
Shows you all of the perspectives that there possibly
Are out there? How's my how's my audio? By the way, is it good? You're great. You're great, dude. It's money
Yeah, just like I'm you know, I love to I love reading observations as well
And it's almost like you know, you get a different interpretation from everybody
But you never really know what the artist thinks how you choose how you chose this specific
You know, I did a lot of research on how you like, you know spend multiple times taking hundreds and hundreds of photos before you actually
Set a photo up, you know
So how how did you get this photo and and did you add or subtract anything in it or is it?
You know a photo that you was a reference and you know, how did you pick this spot for this this piece?
Yeah, so back in
Early 2023 I was commissioned to go to
Big Sur to create some art and that's when I kind of started
You know because I usually every time I go somewhere I explore the area in Google Earth
Just because I like to kind of go with a game plan, right?
So I explored the whole area in in Google Earth
learned all about
Like the the landmarks the highlights and that's honestly when I learned about the 17-mile drive
You know, it's a for everyone who doesn't know it's basically
It's a beautiful location in
central, California
Like a like a highway, right? Is it like a
Highway along the highway one highway one. Yeah. Yeah highway one along the the coastline
stunning views
Magnificent. I believe like one of the best out there in the world. I guess you can know like
So you can only compete with
like a highway in Australia
Along their coast, so it's a it's a beautiful place and I've learned about the 17-mile drive
Which is like a drive in a closed community
You pay fee to get in and it's you can spend a whole day there. It has like
19 points to stop or something like that
But basically, you know you you stop every I don't know
100 feet or whatever to take a photo
So I went there and the collector who ordered the commissions
His handle is apes on the moon. Shout out to him. He was very passionate about the place
you know, he
We talked about it and he was like, ah, you're gonna love it
you know the the
Photos you will take there and like the art you will create so he was giving me recommendations where to go
What's music to listen to while driving there?
It was great. So I was already kind of set up to for like a adventure of a lifetime basically and driving from
from the south and
Yeah, I got there and I was taking a ton of photos at every stop
and when I when I got there, so
This is the bird rock. If you look at this piece the bird rock itself is that
Covered in bird poo white islands in the back
Okay, and it's actually a different stop the location that like the perspective is showing
It's a beach north to it
So I took a lot of photos, you know of the of the of the rock itself like close-ups. I had a long lens
I was going to to illustrate it itself because it's just such an amazing, you know, such an amazing kind of
high contrast
Spot right, but when I got to this beach, it's like a little cold for something and I got to the rocks
I was like it was magical because the water the water that you see here, right like the colors
It's it's insane. I've never seen anything like that
so the water in front of me was was like colored orange and
Right there it was mixing like it and this orange first
Honestly, I thought it was some some sort of a sewage or whatever, right?
It was like it doesn't make sense like why is it here because the color is so like rusty
But then I learned that like I explore there was no no no pipes. Alright, so this is probably some algae
that that grows there during spring or whatever and then
Kind of further further out you have this kind of yellowish water, you know from the shallow water is basically the sand
showing through and then this beautiful turquoise and then the waves like so the white the white foam and then the ocean color and
Then there was this white
Like super white rock with black birds on it, right? Oh incredible
So when I got there, I was like, oh this this this place
I'm definitely you know at some point creating a portrait off
so he took a a lot of reference photo from all of the different angles and
the way I usually
creates my art, especially when I'm intentional and
I am a very intentional person and everything I do and I you know
Thinking things through as just a default approach to everything
The way I usually approach it as I take a ton of photos and then I
Go to Photoshop. I
Usually create a composition kind of based on the photos
But more composition in my in in my head my personal preference is like, you know, the rule of thirds
I love straight lines. I love geometry and
And you you like sketch it out first, right cow. That's that's what I remember reading like how you you know
you sketch it out you show the
Yeah, that the that was
For the like it was an example for the for another piece. It was a piece from Laguna Beach
So it's a little different this one was not commissioned, right?
So I did not like I knew about this place from exploring on Google Earth
But when I got there and like felt that experience that I didn't like I didn't sketch
that before going there, but
Yeah, when I had those images right when I had those images
I did make a small sketch of the composition that I wanted to do and
then I usually kind of break down the best parts from multiple multiple
Images multiple photos and I stick, you know kind of stitch them together
according to this
idealistic composition that I have
You know, I try to so two approaches in art basically, especially the the landscapes right is you can
You either
document or
Translate right so when you see like a loose loose brush big strokes paintings
it's more of a translation of the vibe of the feeling there and
You know hyper realism is usually a documentation, right? So it's like this is how it was there and my pieces
I'm finishing with my little
That's a lot of a story I guess
Although this is like a pure documentation, I'm trying to like the details are as close as possible
The composition is usually shifted. So, you know, for instance as far as I can remember
That for instance white rock like I pushed it a little bit
to be fully in you know inside so yeah, so it's it's kind of a
Complex process but at the same time simple, you know, when you do it is comes naturally
It's uh for those of you looking at this piece
I know it looks like that rock out there has snow on it. No that rock has
Thousands and thousands of pounds a bird shit. Yeah, how you said it more you said it more elegantly burpoo
poo-poo is a cleaner word so my kids would say but
Yeah, it is you try buy it and it's like it's just rock
It's just the rock is so big it just never gets washed off unless you know
Sometimes you could see it mildly get washed off of a big storm comes in but it's still kind of always there
Oh, and I was when I was later reading about this place
The early settlers I believe they were the like when they first got there
They harvested, you know that for bird shit
For the you know for it's a like there's a fertilizer and there was like five feet
Right imagine like thousands of hundreds of thousands years of birds shitting on the rock, right?
And like no humans doing anything about it. So they kind of sourced a lot of
Good feta feta lies in there. It's good. I mean great man. It's gotta be stained
Are you how how far was that in relation to like where we were by Cyprus?
Did we see it or no? Yeah, if you look to your left
Left of bird rock will be part of Monterey Peninsula
Okay country club and then the tip of spyglass point comes down and then you're about a mile
I think about a mile from it from the edge of Cyprus, you know heading head and south
But yeah, and one thing I want to talk to you about cow is this piece is monumental in size
I've actually done like zooms on my screen to you know, see where I could go get to the rocks where
There's no distortion and I mean it looks like this this piece could be printed out to be
Gosh, I don't even know like it at least like 60 72 inches wide
Without losing any without losing anything at all, right? So
And you know for me, I want to I love printing stuff like this
I love you know, I got literally no wall space left. So you just go creating the walls in your house
basically is what you do, but
When you do this is are your thoughts
you know, so we live in this digital world, but
Do you think about the printing and do you think about the the way this could be displayed outside of a screen?
Because I think there's probably not even a screen big enough to actually look at the scale of this today in terms of what LEDs
Give us what what is your mindset?
Well, this is the beauty of vector art
Am I am I still here? Yeah
That's the beauty of vector art right because yeah. Yeah, because vector art for those who might not be too familiar with it
Roster right just digital paintings are the same as photographs
They consist of pixels just like your picture on your phone
And when you zoom in you see that it consists of just
Millions of pixels of different like little squares of different colors the way vector art like vector
Works basically is that it consists of points
Lines connecting them and then you define the the color inside of them, right?
so if you were to
draw a square you just you know you
I'm very kind of describing it very simply you just put four dots
Four lines and and define the color inside of it
so this technique allows for this
lossless creation and
I've used you know, I've used I've used to I created that in Illustrator and I've used that for years
Vector art has been around for for decades at this point, you know a job illustrator was created in
so yeah, so
Long time before I guess a lot of artists in this space were even born
Right and then Photoshop was I believe
1990 so just imagine that right so this is kind of and it's it's not even the beginning right?
It's just one of the programs to create with it. So it allows you to create
Anything and basically super zoomable. I
Really was you know, again, I was very intentional with what I was doing. I wanted to create so like my goal
to create a piece that in a way would be a
Lot more immersive than even the sharpest photo, you know
Some pieces that I was take like I was creating an art piece from
When I would go to the location
I would take a zoom lens and I would kind of zoom in into extreme details that are usually not seen on
Just one picture right and I'm kind of combining all of those details and I think it creates this extremely immersive world
love prints already. I you know the aspect ratio that I usually create is
Basically, the reason for it was so it can be printed out as 18 by 24 inches
art prints, that's my
My favorite size of arts. That's what obey shepherd fairy is using. I kind of use that as
Inspiration, but yeah, but usually
Yeah, I do keep in mind that
look at it on their screens and
I'm really I was really excited. I posted about it when vision Pro was out. I was like, oh, that's
That's the way to
Properly kind of enjoy my art right because instead of kind of zooming in
Into those tiny pieces because even if you print it out on on on a big
On a big piece of paper, whatever that is
I think not all of the details will still show up
The ones that I've created like on this one if you zoom if you guys open the original file
I'm zooming on the blackbirds in the background like they are pretty
They're pretty out there. So I definitely love prints inspired by prints
I want people to print them out to get prints from me. I usually kind of that's that's that's what I do and
I love that it's digital and that people can can zoom in and browse in and
Just I guess a little hint is that there is always something
Something in the details. Okay
Looking for Easter eggs. I wasn't looking for Easter eggs. Okay now I'm going to
Well, the great news is your arts. It's easy to do that with right?
I would just encourage everybody go to the original file download it to your computer
gives you all you know, if you have a macro PC you have the ability to zoom in and like you just zoom forever on these
things and
Yeah, now I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna scan it. You zoom fully in though. It takes you know, you're I think I've got these
I don't even know 27 inch screens. I got one of them
Done portrait size and I think I think I scanned the screen like
Nine full screen widths on a you know, the 27 inch screen, you know
And that was just like the top right portion of the piece. So
It's cool. I'm gonna spend some time doing that today
Okay, I want to bring Cardinal in because Cardinals got his observation and then we can
Move on with maybe some of the Q&A or just some of the you know
I've got a few things I want to touch on that you you mentioned in
Your Q&A that I'd like to to chat about that. Let's bring carnal and talk about his observation
Yeah, I I would actually
Cal and I picked the same one. So Cal I would love to take on a year you talk through
mixed observation
Because we both found it very very impactful
So I'll kind of hand that to you
I would need to kind of you know, find it observation first, but what I remember
About this observation, you know, we talked I talked about his his
military service
in DMS later on
Fascinated, you know by the stories that he has to tell and in his observation
He basically wrote that he went there when he was like there there was a base camp
in South California
first kind of saw the Pacific Ocean in
Laguna Beach and that
This seagull like lonely seagull
Standing far isolated from like the the busy
You know the busy
Infested place, right? It's kind of how he felt
Back then
Because you know, he didn't know anyone in the camp and oh I loved that, you know
I was like, ah, that's that's so good because there's nothing I guess every artist has has their own
Preferences, right but I'm sure a lot of artists would agree that there's nothing
Better than kind of having your art resonate with people on on personal level, you know to remind
them about something
some of the pieces I've talked to collectors of mine and
Strangely enough a little confession to make right as strangely enough
because I create art about California and
Found out that kind of people who live here, especially locals
I feel like that they don't really cherish what they have much
because most of my collectors are people not from California right who have
visited California who have fond memories of staying here and like I'm talking to them is like
Oh, I don't live here
But I like I acquired this piece because this is where I stayed with my sister when I was like in my 20s
Right. This is where I was like, oh, wow. This is fascinating right because I
See the place. I love it. I
experienced it and I want to bring it out in the world, but
Hearing people's perspectives and stories kind of what they did at this place because it's a physical place, right?
I'm not creating some some futuristic
scenes that resonate or don't resonate like these are places where where people go to where people go to with their
Dads with have you know moms girlfriends, you know friends hang out there. So it's really
amazing to hear those stories and
Beaches all right rocks
They are often kind of similar everywhere around the world. So, you know, I've heard
People telling me how like some some some rocks remind them of their stories or favorite place in England
Right. So amazing. I loved observation that Nick did and
I read it and I was like, oh, yes, so good. Oh my god, right, but I loved all of your observation guys
It's so yeah
He did amazing. It was it was a great one
You know, I'd gone through them all too and it was already picked but it's one to really easily resonate with because you could feel
You know it, you know if it wasn't chat GPT
He put a part of the heart and soul into it and it was a it was great to read too
And it was and obviously, you know, thank you for your service, too. So that was
It was great to read. So
Okay, so I want to get into a few of the questions here
We got a few minutes left and I'd like to you know
You did your Q&A Cal and I go through this and there's one thing that really stuck out to me
It's a question that we asked you about that, you know, the current state of the art world
You know, where do you where do you picture yourself in that right today?
Like where's Cal in the art world and you really so eloquently I think you know
A lot of times we get caught up. We're especially in the space that we're in. There's there's a lot of degeneracy
I think there's a lot of fewer really particular here people that are you know
The quote that's maybe overused at this point here for the art
But listen, it is what it is. Right? I mean that this is reality, right?
We've chosen to be here
So we could either be here and be present or and and and and have our you know
Goals and our focuses and do what we love or get you know, kind of clouded by that
I think that's what you're trying to say and you know, you said, you know, I'm here for the good
I'm here for the bad. I'm here for it. All right. I'm here, right?
I'm just I'm excited to be here and that's that's kind of how I feel to like it's uh
Every day we wake up, you know noble
We have this battle that we've internally, you know
Kind of taken upon ourselves just to go out and really not only curate great art
You know try to keep this as honorable as possible for artists as it relates to royalties and as it relates to you know
Making sure the pieces gets in the hands of collectors that really are getting the art because they love the art, right?
And that's like those are the two main things and it's tough
Right because we live in the we live in the world of PPs live in the world of shit coins
Everything is symbiotic and what we do and I feel like there's the lines are blurred a little bit from
All those things I just mentioned, you know
People like to weave in that narrative into the art and the same for and same backwards as well, too. So
But listen, it helped me, you know kind of in reflect
I look at this too and I go on these rampages sometimes about like, you know
Just being very vocal about get the fuck out of here if you're not here for the art, right?
But that's not what it is. Right at the end of the day, you know
we're all this community that we're trying to push this thing forward and
We're gonna make mistakes and we're gonna do some weird shit
But that's what makes us, you know, kind of all fun to be around too is that we we're okay being weird
We're okay pushing boundaries. We're okay trying stuff and you know what? I want to look back
I'm old as it is right now
But I want to look back what I'm a great grandfather and say man
It was it was awesome to be here during that time when we were pushing those boundaries and my gosh
Look at the kind of stuff that we did, you know, we meant to this and you know, we pumped that or whatever it is
That's exciting. Right and I'm here for exciting. I hate being bored and I hate I hate the norm
So hey, you know what?
Thank you for at least helping me connect back with you know, that main reason that I'm here
So that's what I took out of your Q&A. So Matt and that Cardinal let you guys
You know talk about the Q&A to and you know, maybe pick one thing that you saw that
You know as help is it's gonna help us all push this thing forward
yeah, I mean, I think the the beautiful beautiful part about what we're doing with the observations is
You know, you're getting people to submerge themselves within the art instead of just buy in just to buy it
You know, you got to spend some time with it. You got to write about it
You got to think about it and you know, yes, you know, like you said Cal, you know people resonate with certain things and
You you try to as an artist like myself you try to make somebody feel something when you paint, you know
You're painting something that you can reflect on and then that you feel like this painting is a description of hey
What you felt and what you saw while you're at this at the birdrock, you know
so when you're when you're painting you're expressing those emotions on paper or on
Canvas or on screen and you want to you want that that type of feel for the collector as well
So, you know, I remember he said something about this when he was in Miami
He's like, you know, you you can't just walk up to you know
Art Basel and buy something like they you they make sure that you're sitting and you're observing and you're like
taking part in actually being a collector and
Viewing and feeling, you know while you were looking at the painting and and I just I love these observations for that
and and you know, I think the biggest thing from your Q&A that
That I would love to ask you about is, you know how your art has evolved over time, you know, you you said that
You want to just you wanted to focus on one thing? You never really focus on one thing
You never want to be amazing
Guitarist and amazing, you know, whatever it was
but you really wanted to focus on vector art for 2023 and and you know that I love that because you it's not like you
Were you didn't try and do everything like there was no side hobby side hustle
You just focus on on your on your vector art for 2023
But you know, I'm always curious to to why how that evolved into vector art and you know
After effects photoshopped illustrator has been around like you said since 80s
990 so, you know what kind of made you what was what was like your aha moment where you're like, man
I want to do this vector art and I want to just fucking dominate it
Thank you, thank you
As I said in in Q&A, you know, I think all of us artists white passion
They did something since since the beginning, right? It's just
Oftentimes it's like to deal with you know, for some it's to deal with stress for some is to do something just out of boredom
But like this urge to create I use in many people sometimes, you know forgotten sometimes kind of carried on through life
Not to kind of get into a long
genetic story, but basically
you know, I've been creating and experimenting with all of the mediums for a long time and
in life I
I'm super grateful for all of the opportunities coming my way and I'm trying to
always kind of open myself to opportunities because
Yeah, all of the like the the the wonderful paths that I've had in life was because of
Kind of some serendipity, you know and being open to
being open to opportunities
Naturally from what I was doing and I hope you know c4 shout out to c4. He's amazing
But I guess he knows I know I don't have ass anything in life
Right. I'm very kind of
Intentional I always go the extra mile
was doing a lot of art when I was in university and
Somehow some way I
When I was helping I was paid for
Me just helping out with with designs
All right, so stories at least a two-year loan story and it's just 8 a.m. But I
Got to pay the ones and I was like, oh, oh, that's interesting
All right, cuz I wanted I was dreaming of like international relations, you know
maybe becoming like a diplomat or something when I was younger and
I got into freelance basically and
With my philosophy that you
Kind of approach everything try try everything at least once and not kind of dive into
One thing and become you know, a professional oil painter the best in the world like it
This is just that for me
some people rock it I
more about can experiences and
More about it's more about expressing an idea than learning the medium for me, right?
so that's where all of my
kind of knowledge
Advanced knowledge of all of the photoshops of all of the programs kind of came from and I've done
vector art
When I was when I was a freelancer
You know various projects. Oh logos
Graphic designers know what I'm talking about right like all of that stuff
obviously when someone looks at my art even the first one that I published right like as you can see that I
Hadn't learned illustrator like eight months before that
all right
so to me was I
Wanted to
Create those love letters to California just because of how mesmerized and like stunned I am
about about this place. It's it's truly magnificent and
Thought that there's no better way to create that than vector art, right?
Because again, I wanted to document at this point when I was creating the starting this this
Collection I wanted to document I wanted I wanted it to be immersive
I wanted to be more than just not just a photo, you know photography is is
Beautiful art in itself, but I wanted to kind of make it a bit more more immersive than that
So this is this is how I chose
Vector art for this specific thing and I stuck to it for the whole year
And and you know kind of pushed it pushed myself into
Kind of getting getting it's not that I was necessarily getting better because my skills had been already
pretty good with illustrator, but I
definitely
rethought more about
The pieces themselves, you know kind of how to approach when to
Kind of what look what to look for in Google Earth and all of that
No, no, I was going to say it's like I think we're running out of time and maybe there's
One more question or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, that it's probably a really good segue
I know we kind of talked about some different
Ideas and projects that you're working on for 2024. Do you want to kind of let everyone know what you're excited for that's coming up?
Yeah, well, you know this hyper detailed vector
Realism is something that I grew really passionate about so this is not going away anytime soon
not to even mention that I
have like a wait list of commissions that I need to finish shout out to all of the collectors and
But I do you know, I've been trying to push
the amount of details that have been putting into
those pieces I believe the biggest one was 36 K of hand-drawn elements inside of
The image and when you trim on and it's like it's just hand-drawn, right?
So it's not necessarily all of the details that you that you see here all of the details that you see here
Like if you if you crop it things that vector artists usually show you as as
like line work
Some of the pieces like if you trim it then the elements get into like
100,000 but I don't really count that because you know, this is not hand-drawn like hand-drawn is the details
that I've been doing but there is a limit right because
Creating those pieces and kind of getting into the extreme details and basically if you look at my line work
some of the areas are just pitch black, right, so
Kind of guessing at what number it would be, you know, it would be the limit
I'll probably take I'll probably go there just to like the extremists
You know to kind of just make the line wardens pitch black basically
got interested in an idea of
Creating a set number of elements and creating with that, you know
I love oil paintings. I love loose
Abstract ish, you know large brushstrokes
Kind of style as well. I tried that out
in my notes, I have it as
Vector impressionism. I love impressionism just you know from from well painters from the past
So this is something that I want to I'd like to experiment with
Would love to experiment something with
Photography and by like something I already know what I'm gonna do gathering gear
So I'm hoping to maybe launch like a little maybe like 50 piece
photography-based art projects somewhere in
in spring probably hopefully maybe
I've already I've just minted
another like style experimentation which are called wet pixels and
That is inspired by my love for oil painting, especially the technique known as a la prima
Which is basically wet on wet where you?
Push and pull the the paints on the canvas
Originally, I wanted to do it on the canvas, but I figured out that you know digital just gives so much
More like I I don't like scanning my art and I don't like photographing my art
so I thought oh I can kind of get around that by just
Painting with oil, but just in Photoshop. So I've already
minted my first piece from this
Style this kind of deviation
Again, this is not that's what I'm trying to say in my twits. Usually it's like this is not
New chapter like I'm not switching to that. It's just like a new dimension to a body of work
Yeah, so the first piece green lights of LAX
Is already published and it's basically like an oil painting digital oil painting
Yeah, so this is the stuff that I'm kind of passionate for
2024 but oh boy, do I have some stuff and you know later down down the road with some projects and
Collections and all of that, but we'll see, you know
Sometimes you need to
Look ahead. You need to plan but at the same time you kind of take it, you know day by day
because otherwise you just living like
the guy from from Groundhog Day, right because he's living in the future trying to
You know forecast and you gotta he gotta be in the present
Hey man, I love that brother
Artie c4. Do we have anything else? I think we've got all through that observations talked about his piece. Love it
Background, I mean if you guys got anything else or if there's anything else that you would like to say Cal
Okay, listen, thank you, this is amazing I'll back that up also Cal before we close this out that
Cal has such a long waiting list. I've talked to him for six months about we can't even get to the brief yet
of what I want to do
Personally, but you know, I made this statement a couple days ago, but just being very intentional about the art
I want to curate for my vault and yeah, he Cal super busy and
We're grateful that you were able to spend some time and share your art with noble. That's
You know again a big win for us and hopefully big win for you as well, too. So really appreciate it and
Go out and be epic today. Go date your wife date your husband date your boyfriend girlfriend, whoever it is and
Then also show up the other
364 days of the year for him. Absolutely. This is the way you guys
Thank you guys