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Ociswap X Space. With Joost from Gable Finance 🏦
Recorded: Nov. 30, 2023 Duration: 0:44:48Space Recording
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Nice Christmas-themed sounds.
Hi, guys.
Just waiting a little bit longer
for more people to join.
Maybe you need to post it.
Post a link everywhere.
Ah, the music never comes back
after I speak once.
So sad.
Please fix this Twitter.
I'm going to post it.
Okay, push, push, push, push.
Maybe some quick mic test.
Are you there, Joost?
Yeah, yeah.
Hi, Lucas.
How are you doing?
Yeah, I'm doing well.
Excited for this session.
Thank you so much for joining
the second AMA session for us
with Ossyspob.
So I'm your co-host,
Lucas Steffen.
I'm one of the co-founders of Ossyspob.
And yeah, hopefully can continue
with this format week by week
with more and more projects
joining on Radix
and telling their stories
because it's just everything
just getting started.
And there's so many people,
so many interesting backstories
to share
and to also to learn
from others as well.
So they have this space
as a sort of an inspiration
maybe also for other developers
or entrepreneurs
who want to start a project
or developing on Radix.
So in general,
this is maybe something
we could achieve
with this long term.
Yeah.
Then I would say let's start.
Also, we could tell something
about you, Joost.
Some quick introduction.
Yeah, sounds good.
Hi, everybody.
I'm Joost.
I'm from the Netherlands.
I have a background
or academic background
in quantitative finance,
especially financial modeling.
I've studied finance
as a bachelor's
and quantitative finance
as a master's.
Thereafter,
I started working
at the Dutch Bank
as a risk model engineer,
which basically entails
that I've been involved
in the,
was involved in implementation
of credit risk models.
So that basically introduced me
to the software development
side of things.
And I think it's
the combination of skills
on the one side,
the financial modeling,
understanding of financial instruments.
And on the other side,
the understanding
of the software development
and implementation
that basically brought me here
and enabled me
to build Gabel.
So that's a bit
about my academic
and professional background.
Other than that,
in my personal life,
I'd like to play football
with friends of mine
like any other Dutch guy,
I suppose.
You mean the real one,
not the soccer, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Same struggle
for Germany.
So most people
are thinking
about the American
hand egg one, right?
So you're also
professional football player
or which?
Well, not professional.
If I was,
I wasn't probably
building a Gabel.
But no,
it's a recreational level.
It's more about
the fun after the game
than the game itself
most often.
That's good.
So you built Gabel
on your own.
So there's also
some team already
around you.
So I find it always
very, very inspiring
or amazing
to see people
really try
to bootstrap
a project
completely
on their own
because there's
so many things
you need to
have in mind, right?
So how are you doing
it in the first stage
now with Gabel?
Yeah, it's going well.
And as you said,
I'm currently alone
on the project.
I've been able
to launch
version one
of the protocol.
I think it's also
due to the fact
that the Reddick
Stack stack
is rather accessible.
Scripto is a very,
I'd say,
easy to learn
and also easy
to use language
which really,
really simplifies
the smart contract
development part
of things.
So that helped me
quite a lot
in the whole process.
But other than that,
there is a lot
actually that is
involved other
than just smart
contract development.
There's also
the whole back-end
set up.
You need to be able
to build a proper
front-end solution.
There's also a lot
of administrative
work involved
and name it.
So altogether,
it's quite a lot
of work,
but I think
if the ambition
and the motivation
is there,
it's definitely
possible.
Wow, that's
really crazy.
I really like
these stories.
Also, congratulations
for your bubble
and booster.
Kranz, you're also
part of the,
so just launched
also your protocol
basically all
on your own.
That's really
amazing to see.
Thanks.
Is there some
high-level
or top-level
explanation
about your product
what you're offering
with Gabel?
Oh, Gabel, sorry.
Yeah, no, of course.
Yeah, so in
simplest form,
Gabel is a
decentralized
lending protocol
built on Redix
DLT, of course.
So, version one
of the protocol
has launched
last month,
so it's already
been available
for a month now.
It offers
two aspects,
basically,
a supplier side
and a borrower side.
From the supplier
side of things,
we collect liquidity
via staking rewards,
which entails
that there's
a Gabel validator
node in place
that collects
staking rewards,
so anyone can
stake to the
Gabel validator node
and then the
staking rewards
will actually be
extracted from
the validator node
and put into
a liquidity pool.
From that
liquidity pool,
flash loans
are issued,
so that's the
borrowing side of
things.
So the first
lending product
is our flash loans,
and yeah,
anyone can
utilize them,
anyone can
make use of
them and
basically access
liquidity right
away.
And especially
the supplying
side of things
has been very
accessible to
users.
Staking is
something that
people are
familiar with.
Flash loans
are a bit new,
I suppose,
but it's been
very interesting
to see how
the community
has been
familiarizing
themselves with
it and also
actually manually
executing
profitable
flash loans.
So there's a lot
of development
there.
So the term
flash loan is
maybe not so
well-known or
familiar with
most people.
Maybe also a
quick explanation
of what's going
on behind the
scenes,
basically.
Yeah,
yeah,
that's
understandable.
So flash loans
are basically
loans that are
unique to the
DeFi world.
So in traditional
finance, for
instance, the
concept of
flash loans
doesn't exist.
So what
flash loan is,
it's basically
a loan that
you can execute
in a single
transaction,
transaction,
which means
that you get
a loan and
repay the loan
in a single
transaction.
And that is
made available
in Reddix or
enabled in Reddix
due to the
composability
aspect of Reddix
in which you
can call
multiple
DApps, for
instance, in a
single transaction.
Yeah, you
can might think
to yourself like,
okay, what's the
use case of that
actually.
So for
instance, within
crypto, flash
loans are used
quite often to
benefit from
arbitrage
opportunities.
So for
instance, you
can swap
multiple tokens
across multiple
pools and
benefit from
the price
discrepancies
between these
pools using
flash loans.
You can
execute certain
trading strategies
using flash
loans.
And there's
actually a bunch
more use cases
which require a
bit more
explanation.
And as
far as I'm
aware, there
was even one
guy in the
community who
simply made
their own
flash loan
solution, right?
Just using the
transaction manifest
without any
developer background
knowledge.
So that's
really, really
cool to see,
right?
So that's like
in Lego blocks
that can stick
together all
these different
depths and then
execute everything
in a single
transaction.
That's super,
super cool,
actually.
I also had a
lot of
conversations
already.
in Twitter
or X
in the past
with people
also from
other
ventures,
other layer
ones.
They said,
yeah,
flash loans
isn't really
a use case.
It's not
really,
you don't
really need
Most of the
time people
coming up
with that
are from
layer ones
without
atomic
composability.
But in
general,
what do you
think about
Is this
really something
we could
leverage more
or is
something
we're just
using because
we can
I feel
like especially
now in the
current stage
of Babylon,
it's a very
early stage
is that
there's quite
some price
discrepancies
between
exchanges.
Liquidity
is developing
slowly over
time.
and especially
the contribution
of flash
loans,
for instance,
can increase
liquidity
between
DEXs and
also solve
certain price
discrepancies
in between
the DEXs and
thereby create
an overall
more liquid
and also
consistent
market.
I do
see the
need for
flash
loans.
For instance,
not everybody
has access
to a certain
amount of
XRD to,
for instance,
benefit from
arbitrage
properties.
Having this
pool from
which people
are actually
able to
access the
liquidity
that's
needed for
them to
execute
their
strategies,
I think
it's very
important.
Definitely
agree also.
Just
continue
with an
question,
also kind
of related
to that
flash loan
example.
Are there
any specific
areas where
Gabriel Finance
sees potential
for collaboration
or integration
with, for instance,
OCSwap,
Splash Campaign,
general liquidity
pools?
in terms
that people
can use
your tool
to execute
these
flash loans
between
DEXs?
And, yeah,
that's the
question,
generally.
Yeah,
I've been
thinking about
this.
I'd love to
integrate,
for instance,
certain price
information into
our application,
into the
front-head side
of our
DApp,
and thereby
enable users,
for instance,
to discover
certain price
discrepancies
and also
to benefit
from them.
So, I
think that's
one opportunity
that me
from
Gabel's
side can
actually
utilize
and integrate
OCSwap
with.
On the
other side,
we have
a custom
token,
GAP,
which is
currently
already listed
in OCSwap
and also
traded on
OCSwap
Xrd pool.
The liquidity
that is
currently being
derived or
generated
by OCSwap
in that pool
is very
important
for the
token itself
and also
for the
future
of the
token.
there,
we really
like to
benefit from
campaigns that
OCSwap
is hosting,
for instance,
the upcoming
Splash 2.0.
If we can
participate there
and make
GAP Xrd
pair,
for instance,
eligible for
that campaign,
that would
highly benefit us.
Are there
already use
cases implemented
for your
GAP token
or are there
something you
want to add
to it in
your future
milestones?
Yeah,
yes,
certainly.
for version
one of the
protocol,
which is
currently live,
GAP token
doesn't really
serve any
purpose.
However,
the anticipation
is that
for the
future releases
of the
protocols
of version
2 and
going forward,
the GAP token
will play a
crucial and
fundamental role
in the
ecosystem of
Gabel.
currently,
the main
focus for
us is to
actually create
a decentralized
distribution of
the token,
and that's
something that
we'd like to
achieve by,
for instance,
the current
ongoing
airdrop
campaign.
And moving
closer to
the next
release of
the protocol
version 2,
where the
Gabel token
actually starts
to play a
vital role,
we'd like to
start increasing
the liquidity
of the token
so that
people can
actually make
use and
trade with
it more
often.
And that's
also where
we'd like to
start incentivizing
liquidity
provision,
and where we
also really
like to make
use of
OC swap
campaigns.
Nice.
Just a
general,
to make you
aware,
there's a
speech bubble
to write
down your
comments.
If you have
also something
to add to
our conversation
or some
new questions,
feel free to
write it down
and we will
also cover it
during our
space.
Okay.
Yeah.
That sounds
really interesting.
especially to
see we're
just like two
months into
smart contracts
with Redix
and we
kind of already
covered all
these, let's
say, basic
protocol designs
we see on
other layer
ones like
Dex, like
lending
protocols,
hopefully to
take the
first NFT
marketplace,
and so on
and so forth.
I think
if you are
able to
launch it
on your
own, it
just speaks
for itself.
It's like
what is up
and coming
when we're
just already
at this
stage, so
close after
Babylon.
So what do
you think are
the next steps
in general for
our ecosystem
and also for
your protocol,
how we could
leverage this
unique tech
of Redix
even more?
Yeah, that's
a very good
question.
I think the
basic needs
are currently
already launched
on the
ecosystem, so
now I think
it's more
respect to
improving and
also finding
more advanced
solutions that
you can build
on Redix.
I'd actually
look forward to
see more
synergy between
the different
protocols.
I think many
of the protocols
are standalone,
and I think
there's a lot of
synergy that can
be generated
from working
together and
collaborating.
So that's
something that I
really look forward
to in the
upcoming time.
for instance,
what would you
like to see
or have you
some reference
from other
layer ones,
other ecosystems,
what they are
achieving sort
of cross
protocol engagement?
Yeah,
yeah, as well.
Yeah.
Yes, you have
some examples
or some ideas
from other
layer ones.
So just
thinking about
how could we
collaborate even
more between
those steps.
Not just saying,
okay, we launch
now, please use
And everyone
is making
its own thing,
basically.
Yeah, we'd
really like to see
more directions
between the teams,
between the
protocols,
and also
leveraging
composability even
more, right?
in the sense
you can
use a lot
of depths
at the same
time for
arbitrage
opportunities,
for instance.
Yeah.
Yeah, for
instance,
something that
I also look
forward to is,
for instance,
the stable
coins that are
being launched
on that can
be also
traded across
protocols and
maybe even
certain liquidity
pools that
can be
incentivized
by multiple
parties at
the same
time, and
also utilized
in that
sense.
Yeah.
So next
question from
our AMA is
also focusing
on secure
intuitive UX.
How does
Gable Finance
approach user
experience, and
what lessons
could be shared
between the
two platforms?
Yeah, that's
also a very
good question.
In all
honesty, I'm a
backend guy, so
I'd like to
focus more on
user experience,
and I've been
trading and
swapping on
OCSWAP quite
often lately, and
I've been really
enjoying your
interface and
overall user
experience.
I think one of
the powers of
OCSWAP is
the fact that
your application
is also your
homepage.
So people
browsing through
your homepage
basically
people are
immediately able
to interact
with your
application.
And I
think that's
something that
users value
quite a bit,
and also makes
the user
experience and
also the user
journey very
accessible.
This is
something that
I've been
learning from,
and it's also
something that I'd
like to apply on
Gabel, in
which we in the
future will
develop and
launch a
single-page
web application,
which people
might consider as
our homepage as
well, and
thereby making
the interactive
protocol much
more accessible.
like a plug-in
widget solution
you can
implement into
your overall.
Yeah.
Okay.
Super.
So the next
question is
kind of related
to both of
us, so maybe
I will start
answering it.
Okay.
So this is
about what you
perceive as the
biggest challenges
in the evolving
DeFi landscape.
Yeah.
biggest challenges.
Yeah.
I think the
most, the
biggest uncertainty
or challenges
are around
regulatory
uncertainty all
around the
globe, right?
So accessing
liquidity in
general is,
should be more
to tackle like
all, all over
the world.
It's like not
just tackling
everyday people
also.
in regards
of ETF
approvals.
So getting,
getting Bigfoot
inside the
big boys,
right?
So I think
this is really
the biggest
challenge to
attract even
more liquidity,
even more
opportunities
with more
regulatory
clarity.
That's maybe
the biggest
challenge.
Maybe you
can share
something else
and I will
continue
with another
question.
Yeah.
I actually
fully agree
with you.
I think the
biggest challenge
that we are
currently facing
is getting
institutional
investors on
board.
I think also
in the
Redix ecosystem
currently it's
mainly dominated
by individuals.
Getting
that individual
exposure, I
think it's
of huge
importance and
it's also
something that
can take the
crypto landscape
to the next
stage, next
level.
To achieve
this, I think
that's also
something that
Redix is very
much focusing
upon is to
start introducing
KYC onto
the ledger.
Although this
is something
that might
not, it's not
something that a
lot of people
want to hear,
but I really
do believe that
having KYC on
chain and on
ledger would
enable or
shorten
basically the
barrier for
institutional
investors to
get on board
because they
need to
justify, for
instance,
what the
capital or
what the
origination of
the capital
comes from
that they are
making use of.
Also thinking
about other
challenges,
maybe more in
general, also
which types
of DeFi
applications or
use cases
we're offering
or the lack
of innovation
we're currently
seeing, right?
So we have a
few blue
ship depths,
like let's
say Dex's,
landing
protocols,
these types
of features,
but yeah,
it's kind of
slow, right?
The innovation
and also
finding new
use cases,
getting it to
market.
So for instance,
we know at
Uniswap V3
stage, V4
is up and
coming, but
yeah, it's
like already
live since six
years, right?
So the
innovation is
quite kind
of slow
paced and
obviously
the EVM
world, you
also have to
take care
all the new
protocols you're
deploying has
to be as
secure as
possible.
You know,
there's a lot
of hacks and
exploits and
certainty around
that of course
as well.
So I think
having a good
foundation to
build on
to have even
a way, way,
way quicker
innovation
happening could
enable the
DeFi landscape
to actually
build some
really, really
cool depths
that are
actually could
come into
everyday's life,
right?
For instance,
RWA and so
on and so
forth.
Yeah.
So something
else to add
or I think
these are
already kind
of the big
big challenges
that.
Yeah, I think
We can keep
covered.
Yeah.
So we already
have some
questions in
this chat.
So some
sheer up
humanity about
this increase
in liquidity
we are seeing
already,
these staking
rewards
accumulating
or is it
still manually
added?
Is this
related to
DeFi
Lama?
Is that
something?
It's a
chart basically
showing or
showcasing the
flash loan
activity on
the protocol.
Okay.
Oh, no,
that's the
pool liquidity
on the
protocol.
So the
first steep
increase you
see is that
I bootstrap
basically the
Babylon
booster grant
into the
protocol.
So that's
the first
steep line
that you see
and after
that it's
the interest
fees
earned on
flash loans
that's been
building up
and accumulating
into the
pool.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's also
dedication,
right?
Put everything
inside,
all your
trends inside
the protocol.
That's
fascinating
as well.
Yeah,
I know.
I mean,
I want to
keep it in
the protocol
but I think
I'd like
to put back
into the
protocol
so that
we can
start growing.
maybe this
also related
to road
maps
looking for
your next
stages
where do you
see Gabel
in general
in six
months
or in a
year from
now on?
Yeah,
so in six
months I'd
hope to
already be at
version two
of the
protocol.
So version
two of the
protocol will
introduce
collateralized
and stable
coin lending
to the
protocol.
Other than
that in
between we
currently have
the air
door campaign
going on
and thereby
I'd like to
achieve a
decentralized
distribution
of the
token and
then with
version two
in mind
introducing
a utility
and also
governance
to the
token.
Other than
that I'd
like to
improve or
increase the
flash loan
volume on
the protocol
and what
we have
in mind
is starting
a flash
loan
competition
in which
users can
basically
compete
with respect
to the
most profitable
flash loan
strategies
and thereby
first of all
incentivizing
flash loan
usage and
also the
automation of
flash loans
and other
other sites
incentivizing
usage on
the protocol
and then
going forward
that's I
think where
the main
innovation
starts
because once
you have
collateralized
and stable
coin lending
to the
protocol
I think
we really
need to
start
innovating
and introducing
new solutions
new products
etc.
and that's
really where
the creativity
starts and
that's actually
what I'm
most excited
about.
Especially
in the next
coming weeks
we're expecting
more stable
coin liquidity
in general
I think
there's
this really
really
really
really
major
importance
for us
for our
ecosystem
to attract
way more
so currently
we have the
insta bridge
solution
with KYC
and so
especially
coming up
with more
non-KYC
bridges
as well
are really
really necessary
to get a lot
more things
rolling right
in our
ecosystem
especially
also for
lending
protocols
I think
it's
one of
if not
the most
important
tool to
basically
stable
coins
right
yeah
yeah
certainly
may I
because
what's
what's
swaps
perspective
towards KYC
for bridges
or in
general
in general
yeah
this
this
really
depends
this
will
play
with
upcoming
regulation
frameworks
for instance
the EU
could
coming
with
some
sort
gateway
users
sort
this
really
critically
general
purpose
DEXs
right
you could
maybe
have
some
specialized
pools
for instance
with
securities
obviously
if you
offer
something
like
that
really
need
to have
some
sort
to know
your
customer
otherwise
yeah
that's
also
depends
what's
what's
perspective
about
commodities
securities
in general
if every
single token
is a
security
obviously
we're
in trouble
yeah
in general
also
Redix
tech
stack
itself
also
allows
a lot
of things
quickly
built in
as well
if it's
really
needed
we can
do it
I think
it would
be much
harder
on other
places
to implement
such
things
yeah
that's
really
what I
would
like
obviously
what's
your
opinion
about
yeah
feel
same
we're
also
operating
regulation
I foresee
that at
some point
they're
going to
dictate
at least
bridging
between
fiat
cryptocurrency
and thereby
maybe also
starting to
touch upon
lending
protocols
for instance
yeah
happily
comply
of course
but on
the other
hand
I think
it would
be a
huge
restriction
limitation
certain
protocols
because
every
regulatory
framework
for instance
requires
so maybe
other
protocols
have a
benefit
as the
regulatory
oversight
that they're
operating
in doesn't
necessarily
dictate
such
limitation
however
for instance
setting up
certain
pools
liquidity
pools
specifically
for KYC
related
activity
others
without
would
in my
opinion
be an
ideal
between
scenario
absolutely
so to
see both
just
really
depends
what
you're
offering
right
so in
terms of
defibus
of course
if you
have
some
gambling
aspects
maybe
need
know
your
customer
just
make
sure
certain
whatever
right
whatever
required
from
your
local
government
so to
also
enable
a lot
more
tools
steps
reword
types
depths
that's
really
important
actually
to have
some
sort
opportunity
to allow
these
types
protocols
work
in a
compliant
right
just
have
both
have
opportunity
build
this
that
sometimes
need
sometimes
don't
everything
happening
on top
of a
permissionless
network
open
public
network
everyone
basically
participate
sometimes
maybe
need
sort
lock
your
door
makes
sense
that
what
will
it's
like
really
early
stage
right
yeah
a lot
uncertainty
still
yeah
we'll
evolves
yeah
some
more
questions
let's
there's
some
some
more
from
Fitzrock
congrats
for your
launch
Gable
Finance
what
next
stage
just
okay
about
road
that
already
talked
about
yeah
maybe
nothing
right
maybe
some
again
have
campaign
going
we'd
like
start
flash
long
competition
incentivize
stimulate
borrowing
on the
platform
then
we'd
really
like
move
forward
version
protocol
think
that's
basically
upcoming
half
here
in a
nutshell
nice
yeah
some
question
related
from
myself
what's
best
community
help
redx
known
that's
that's
special
specialty
right
yeah
simply
follow
all the
people
out there
all day
long
supporting
redx
follow
them
and also
share
participate
especially
I think
twitterx
also
linkedin
wherever
you want
around
it's
important
to also
write
something
down
your
thoughts
about
certain
posts
you're
seeing
share
them
your
type
view
about
this
really
helpful
terms
getting
these
posts
more
seen
algorithm
will
pick
them
more
show
them
more
people
right
think
this
even
more
important
than
just
like
share
just
kind
encourage
this
well
really
want
spend
more
time
being
around
just
empower
build
your
brand
your
small
profile
start
sharing
daily
your
point
of view
about
crypto
DeFi
also
especially
important
share
your
experience
while
using
protocols
it's
like
more
than
protocols
already
live
today
them
share
your
experience
especially
developers
entrepreneurs
people
just
building
these
protocols
happy
feedback
really
just
like
that
really
play
around
with
make
some
screenshots
maybe
even
videos
share
your
experience
your
feedback
also
critical
stuff
that's
that's
really
really
helpful
better
right
this
think
more
and more
people
seeing
also
people
using
red X
that's
that's
much more
helpful
than
just
talking
about
tech
itself
right
it's
it's
many
people
it's
just
boring
talking
about
unlimited
scalability
atomic
composability
cross
charts
this
that
right
that's
maybe
a lot
for a lot
of people
that's
really
interesting
a lot
of people
also
just
want
ecosystem
what's
going
there
what's
different
other
layer
ones
in that
regard
your user
experience
just
signing
a transaction
with
this
transaction
manifest
you have
no clue
what you're
signing
before
you're
signing
something
whatever
there's
still
known
exploits
you use
DeFi
in a
safe
relics
there
this
word
it's
really
important
highlight
these
aspects
as well
not just
talking
about
some
very
specific
technical
jargon
right
maybe
I can
say to
that
do you
want to
something
to it
as well
yeah
I fully
agree
crypto
basically
community
driven
the project
itself
of course
has the
responsibility
to spread
the word
I feel
like
community
individual
making
ecosystem
various
place
spread
word
tell
people
experience
of how
experienced
yeah
help
help
the community
grow
as well
absolutely
that's
that's
that's
what I'm
seeing
currently
is like
people
enjoy
using
protocols
currently
to take
it for
granted
that's
that's
that's
great
definitely
but not
talking so
much about
right
because it's
already
people are
used to
okay
using
protocols
and redix
is great
I have
no issues
it's like
two clicks
connected
I can
do my
swap
I can
whatever
I want
to do
right
then
go their
they're
happy
it's
super
super
important
to get
this
feedback
to the
teams
making
their
protocols
their
overall
design
even
better
getting
more
people
into
this
ecosystem
that
also
getting
dragged
into
this
destination
that
finally
DeFi
in a
safe
simple
think
that's
important
to highlight
this
point
yeah
I fully
agree
let's
is there
some
missing
questions
still
landscape
talked
about
uncertainty
with
regulatory
stuff
there
what
developers
are you
most
looking
forward
first
months
2024
this
question
more
related
swap
first
months
hopefully
we can
still
a lot
things
shipped
still
2024
therefore
we have
re-evaluate
afterwards
next
milestones
after
already
announced
milestones
let's
hopefully
most
things
will be
shipped
still
this
year
happy
share
more
afterwards
like
most
aware
related
like
concentrated
liquidity
pools
with
Oracle
support
pools
we want
to ship
as well
what else
there's so
many stuff
on our
pipeline
yeah
there's
two big
points
definitely
and then
let's
what
we can
after
after
that
more
detail
regarding
Oracle
support
Oracle
support
what
specifically
are you
interested
yeah
technical
details
what
kind
frequency
what
kind
Oracle
collaborating
with
developing
your
Oracle
yeah
it's
more
like
pool
based
Oracle
it's
like
price
from
every
pool
every
given
time
it's
like
this
already
from
devy
bets
team
they
launched
their
beta
version
devy
bets
using
Oracle
pools
therefore
you can
place
your
bets
making
sure
that
outcome
guaranteed
from
pool
based
Oracle
itself
right
okay
okay
that's
the first
case
already
it's
already
already
beta
team
could
already
leverage
this
feature
will
rolled
together
with
concentrated
pools
like I
said
hopefully
this
year
will be
still
yeah
software
developing
you know
that's
exciting
let's
some
more
questions
from
audience
more
want
share
something
else
from
your
life
from
maybe
general
experience
when
start
with
with
crypto
developing
when
your
first
already
some
some
rust
experience
beforehand
what
your
initial
into
I've
been
long
term
reddit
follower
didn't
really
have
smart
contract
development
experience
before
this
getting
enthusiastic
about
whole
reddit
stack
stack
basically
involved
and I
thinking
myself
like
like
also
emotionally
invested
in this
project
I might
as well
start
contributing
to it
building
upon
that's
basically
what
triggered
ambition
start
learning
script
myself
didn't
have
rust
experience
either
I've
been
mainly
developing
Python
first
step
that
actually
took
basically
start
a crash
course
rust
thereafter
immediately
started
followed
script
rust
itself
required
a bit
of a
learning
curve
could
actually
the bridge
ready
easy
because
came
from
Python
script
itself
very
accessible
really
enjoyed
all the
learning
material
that is
available
instance
script
college
believe
also
documentation
that
available
script
that
made
overall
learning
curve
very
steep
that's
about
a year
okay
it's
just
year
already
launched
your
protocol
achieve
that
also
yeah
also
just want
apologize
what I
said
earlier
it was
like
in the
live
situation
talking
about
Delphibets
with
DKRC
stuff
really
doesn't
want
talk
about
this
sense
that
there
some
regulatory
uncertainty
using
this
protocol
sorry
misused
words
there
just
want
apologize
that
yeah
then
something
else
let's
check
next
questions
there's
nothing
okay
then
let's
wrap it
maybe
some
some
last
thoughts
things
want
highlight
word
there
some
something
have
mind
yeah
first
thank
having
really
enjoyed
please
take
a look
what we
have
offer
join
telegram
community
we're
very
active
over
there
myself
also
community
very
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able
help
currently
have
drop
campaign
going
with
idea
decentralized
distribution
of the
token
please
take a
look
what
offer
awesome
also
thank you
so much
for joining
this
x space
so looking
forward to
the next
guest
not yet
to announce
let's
next
Thursday
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flow
week
week
thank you
so much
for your
time
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next
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Lucas
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