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ON1 Force on ApeChain?, Gaming & more| Grateful Show #358
Recorded: April 10, 2025 Duration: 1:44:01Space Recording
Short Summary
In an engaging discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the latest trends, project launches, and community growth within the ApeChain ecosystem. Key highlights included the upcoming Foxy Valley mobile game, strategic partnerships, and the importance of community engagement in driving the future of Web3 gaming.
Full Transcription
It's been a long day without you, my friend
And I'll tell you all about it when i see you again we've come a long way
from where we began oh i'll tell you all about it when i see you again when i see you again
damn who knew?
All the planes we flew.
Good things we've been through.
Then I'll be standing right here talking to you.
About another path.
I know we love to hit the road and laugh.
But something told me that it wouldn't last.
Had to switch up.
Look at things different.
See the bigger picture.
Those were the days.
Hard work forever pays.
Now I see you in a better place
How can we not talk about family when family's all that we got? Everything I would do you was standing there by my side
And now you gon' be with me for the last night I'll be all day without you, my friend. And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again.
We've come a long way from where we began.
Oh, I'll tell you all about it when I see you again.
When I see you again, when I see you again, I...
First you both go out your way and the vibe is feeling stronger with smog
Turn to a friendship, a friendship turn to a bond and that bond will never be broken and love will never get lost.
And when brotherhood come first and the line will never be crossed, established it on our own when that line had to be drawn and that line is what we wish, so remember me when I'm gone.
So remember me when I'm gone
GM GM everybody
I hope you are having
epic Thursday, oh my god
see you again, that was probably about
my portfolio today
and past few weeks
guys we have amazing
guests for today's episode
it's gotta be epic
drop a GM in the comments, retweet the
space, we have still two more minutes of intro, so we got to hype it a bit.
So let's go.
You ready?
Let's go.
Yeah.
For those of you that want to know what we're all about. Yeah. 100% reason to remember the name He doesn't need his name up in life He just wants to be heard
Whether it's the beat of the mic
He feels so unlike everybody else alone
In spite of the fact that some people still think that they know him
But fuck him, he knows the code
It's not about the salary
It's all about reality and making some noise
Making a story
Making sure his click stays up
That means when he puts it down
Tax sticking it up.
Let's go.
What the hell is he anyway?
He never really talks much.
Never concerned his status, but still even I'm starstruck.
Humble through opportunities, given despite the fact that many misjudge him because he
makes a living from right and rest.
Put it together himself, got a picture connects.
Never asking for someone's help, but it gives him respect.
He's only focused on what he wrote.
His will is beyond reach. And now with all
my foes, the skill of an artist.
This is 20% skill, 80%
gear, be 100% clear
cause Ryu is ill. Who would've thought
he'd be the one that set the west in flames?
Then I heard him wreck it with the crystal method
name of the game. Came back, dropped
mega death, took him to church. I like
bleach, man. Ryu had the stupidest
verse. Let's do, everybody.
This is Grateful Show 358.
358.
GM GM everybody, so hyped to be here.
I can start with anything else that Mo, damn, such an amazing tweet.
He actually shared that second place winner on Spotlight,
I got to pick artist guest pass to Coachella.
So he's already on the way to Coachella.
Amazing.
We love Ape Chain,
so can't wait to talk with Oni, Force,
and MMOWalk about Ape Chain,
what they are cooking for that.
We are vibing, guys.
Beast, how are you doing today?
Yo, GM Grateful, GM everyone.
I'm vibing also.
So I've been traveling for a couple of days.
Again, it's been a while that I wasn't traveling. Now I'm traveling again. It feels good. But it also feels good to be here and to see everyone here again. I see some beautiful PFPs also. So obviously looking forward to chat with Oney today and later on with MMWalk also. And happy to be here, man. How are you doing?
and later on with mmWalk also and happy to be here man how are you doing?
Doing great doing great did a little farming claimed prompt token I got like $35 so I immediately
swapped that into Apecoin so I'm ready there are also so many spaces right now happening, guys. So retweet our space so people see us and can join us.
Because I believe this discussion will be really, really high.
We saw Star Lordy last time in Lisbon, actually, during Ape Fest.
So that was an amazing time.
I still don't know where the next Ape Fest is going to be.
We are guessing, right?
We talk about Miami, Hawaii,
Las Vegas, right? So who knows? Maybe Baron knows, but he's not gonna tell. I tried,
but it didn't work. So yeah, Beast, what do you think? Where the next Ape Fest is happening?
I thought, Grateful, you were all in on Hawaii, no? Like, when I'm checking your tweets,
like your ape is already in Hawaii for a couple of days.
So I thought that's for sure now, isn't it?
Yeah, bro, but I tried, man.
I pushed Baron.
I was like, Baron, is it Hawaii?
And not even a single, you know, single word or anything.
So I'm not sure, man.
I'm not sure.
I mean, look at Baron, MMWalk and you.
You guys are already pink you guys already
like sunburned from the hawaiian sun so i guess someone was testing the location already oh 100
100 man uh i love hawaii so uh yeah i can't i can't imagine we going there for sure for sure
for sure for sure guys we have so many things happening in the space is absolutely crazy uh the
introverse cards are minting right now so uh yeah i'm checking the the alolus actually and i'm not
on any of those i don't know why because i should be on some of them so i don't know what happened
there maybe we go uh buy on secondary almost 50 is minted already so uh that's great
and yeah uh beast anything else that you would like to share i think it's time to hop in and
start chatting with only force because i'm i'm really hyped to learn more about what they are
cooking man yeah i think we can do it also i one interesting thing for me, I talked to a couple of non-Web3 people
past couple of days.
Sounds dangerous.
It was so funny, you know,
how they were like panicking
and then how excited they were
about like the dip
and then the rebound in stocks.
And they were like, wow,
there was like a 3%,
like 4%, 5% dip in the stocks. And they were like, wow, like what the fuck is going on? And I was like, I was were like, wow, there was like a 3%, like 4%, 5% dip in the stocks.
And they were like, wow, like what the fuck is going on?
And I was like, I was thinking like, guys, you should be on crypto.
Like you wouldn't, you know, like you wouldn't feel any like 5%.
You wouldn't feel anything.
Bro, I'm trying to find quickly the song from the Squid Game, like the first one.
Do you know what was the name of the game?
With that like a huge... Oh, maybe this one.
Red light. Hold on, hold on.
I'll have to play that.
Hold on, hold on.
Bro, I don't... Not this one for sure.
Come on.
Oh my god. I think right now.
Yeah, because this song...
Okay. This song reminds me something. I'll tell right now. Yeah, because this song
Okay, this song reminds me something I'll tell you in a second guys
Come on play that
What's happening there? Oh my God.
So do you know what does it mean beast? This is Tarifs on, Tarifs off bro.
Tarifs on, Tarifs off.
But guys, we don't talk politics here,
but it's wild time as you mentioned, man.
It's crazy.
And I think the lesson here is that you really need to try to figure out your emotions and try to control it.
If you are really feeling bad, like turn everything off and leave.
Or take a break.
That's better.
Don't leave.
Just don't check the charts, right?
Yeah, don't check the charts.
Or play games, man.
I've been playing games.
I've been actually going through...
And that's the last thing that I want to share now
before we hop into what Oniforce is building.
But man, I was doing research on games
because other side is coming closer and closer, right?
And it's absolutely crazy if you look at the games in 90s,
how quickly everything developed and how
actually games started and and build absolute cults man it's nuts for example if you look at
blizzard which is insane studio it was it was acquired by by activision and then it probably
went downhill a little bit but man the games that they launched in 90s,
it's absolutely nuts.
So you have like a Warcraft, Diablo, Starcraft, bro.
Like all these games were absolutely dominating, man.
And it all started around like 94, 96, 98.
We also had a Fallout 2 in 98, 97, I think it was GTA 1, right? And if you look at GTA 1,
it's like a 2D game, you know, you look from above and you look at GTA 6, you see the huge
progress in those like almost 30 years, right? It's insane. And I really hope that
other side will be, you know, something important in the in the history of gaming and metaverse.
Because if you look at like the GTA 6 that should be launching this year, right?
One of the one of the biggest narratives is like community driven, persistent online experiences.
Right. And also, I think someone mentioned
that there'll be crypto involved.
I'm not 100% sure,
but having like economy inside the game is huge.
And other side will have that too, right?
It will be powered by Ape Chain.
So I think we are on something 100%.
And I experienced those games in 90s, bro.
It's not only like these,
it was like Tomb Raer, right, man?
The game that actually they made a movie out of it, etc., etc.
So it was really special, special time.
And I think we are experiencing something very similar in crypto and Web3 and NFTs right now.
It's special time and you need to enjoy it.
You need to live through it to actually appreciate it.
Because games in 90s, like was it was different than now right
like you didn't have those uh how you call it like you didn't buy power-ups and stuff like that right
you bought a game and you had fun you played for like 10 15 20 hours it was so so different compared
to to to games uh these days so yeah uh really hyped about what's happening in the space great that we can host
so many builders here and uh having fun yeah beast was kicked out probably bad internet so
let me circle around and quickly say hi to our our guests here uh i start with mmwalk
welcome here beautiful pink ape how you doing today
oh or am i the one who's rugging okay so star lordy are you here can you hear me
hello hello hello how are you doing man i'm great i'm i'm uh grateful to be here
no pun intended or pun intended either one love it love it i'm also hyped that you're here i'm also hyped that you're building
for ape chain that's incredible i don't know i don't know what actually to be honest so i i can't
wait to learn more but last time we saw each other uh was uh during ape fest i think it was last day
um that i don't even know what was the name of that even uh it was
um yeah i know that aquamaramarines they won the medal that's
what I remember from the day but how did you actually enjoy Ape Fest was that
your first Ape Fest or did you attend any previous ones you know actually I was at
the first one in New York but I didn't have an ape at the time so I think my
boy William actually I see in the audience,
I think he got me in to one of the events, which was cool.
I actually have a hoodie from the original drop, merch drop.
But Lisbon was the first time really going and attending and going to the events and stuff.
It was amazing.
Legitimately, I came away, I told my team, I said, Bored Apes are the only real club in Web3.
Like, it's an actual club. super, super happy that we are.
Yeah, we talk about it, I think, during NFT NYC 2022 that if you want to buy into any communities and you can attend IRL events, it's the best way, right?
I remember like NFT NYC 2022 was special right it was peak bull
like all the venues were insane right like you could go to cooltopia which was absolutely crazy
crazy venue i remember we also went to doodles uh cool man uh of course ape fest right bobby
hundreds had uh had a special merch launch there etc etc but
Also gotta get gang Every community is a little bit different, right? So before you invest
It's great to actually if you can go there and check them out. What were your like
Highlights from from Lisbon anything that really caught your eye that you were like wow, this is awesome. I
Actually really enjoyed the NBA, the alley,
just the setup they had just to see everybody's businesses.
That was really cool.
I did the driving simulator thing.
I think the other page workshop was cool.
Just a bunch of stuff.
I think just overall everywhere I went.
Oh, Guchita's fashion show, that was pretty awesome.
I was pretty happy about that.
I don't know, just everywhere I went,
it was just the vibes were like immaculate.
So I feel like just the whole event was awesome.
Was there anything like you were like, oh, I would like to bring this to Oniforce
or any inspiration for the future?
I think the whole event was inspiring.
I realized, like, in my opinion, I think the Yuga ecosystem, the Bored Apes community is, like, the only Web3 community where you're strong enough to actually have your own fest.
And I was thinking, like, what would it take for Oniforce to actually have like our own like anime fest or something?
Right. Like I think we're quite a ways from that, to be honest.
But but it's inspiring. It's like something to work towards or it's like, oh, we want to build a community of uh people who love the same thing
enough where we could actually bring them together for a special you know multi-day event uh conference
so so i think i think just overall yeah it was just really impressive and uh oh i mean actually
the highlight also i was at the the bip dinner with so i got to sit next to um garga and just
talk to him and pick his brain.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Just top to bottom, everybody was so nice and so welcoming.
And you can see it on Twitter, too.
Everybody is just always friendly to each other.
Our whole team has bought mutants. And every time the welcome wagon comes out, it's just so friendly.
It makes you not want to leave, you know?
Great to hear that, man.
We've onboarded so many people through IRL. A few of our friends, they traveled to Paris for NFT Paris,
and they left with Mutant, for example, right?
Because when you experience those IRL events, you're like,
wow, this is really something, this is really special.
And it's true.
Like wherever you travel,
you can just tweet out,
hey, I'm in the city
and you will 100% find apes there.
I'm having a great time talking to guys from Italy.
I'm planning to go there
and they are so wild.
They recommend me all the great food there,
like pizza with pineapples.
They recommended me the best places for that.
So absolutely love that.
I'm checking the audience if they are here.
I'll make a clip because, yeah, especially Guccione,
he's obsessed with pizza and pineapple and pasta with ketchup, etc.
So he'll be happy listening to this.
Yeah, Beast, anything you would like to ask before we hop in?
I love that Starlord Day loves...
Shit, Beast, bro, you're in the basement right now.
I can't hear you, man.
I like you from distance, bro.
No, I just wanted to add that I love that Starlord Day loves the club,
even after seeing the Gucci Ducks fashion show
and especially Showbiz being in the orange boxers and running all around
and everyone going crazy.
So really happy about that.
Yeah, that was crazy.
And I can't wait for the next ApeFest.
It's going to be insane.
Also, Star Lord Day, Tino showed me the the book the comic book that you
That you send him like the quality and and how it looks and the story
It looks it looks so so good. So
Did you sell these or how can people get them actually?
Yeah, we did sell them it sold out um to our our community and uh to i think we actually
allowed other people to buy it but um i have some stashed away so if anybody wants to dm me i can
send you some complimentary copies don't share that on twitter but uh i just said it on a space
but this is why i have to have people watch me. But we do have some coffee stashed away just for promos and to bring to events and stuff.
But yeah, thanks for the compliments.
I genuinely think it's the nicest comic that Web3 has ever produced.
It's a very premium hardcover comic written by a legend.
The guy that wrote it was Paul Jenkins.
He literally wrote Wolverine's origin story.
He was the first employee of Ninja Turtles.
Actually, his character he created is coming out in the Thunderbolts movie for Marvel called The Century.
He's like Marvel's Superman.
And he literally created that guy and made his comic series.
comic series and um so if that character ever gets greenlit to have his own movie then he's the one
who's contractually only the only one allowed to write that movie script so um so we're pretty
lucky to have him in our in our community and yeah it came out good thank you that's awesome man
what's your plan with a with a comic book or maybe comic series? I think we're right now we're still planning on launching
big in web 2 and so we've been approaching a lot of different
kind of celebrities who love comics, who love anime
to kind of like participate in our universe
and have a stake in the characters and have their own unique characters that they're going to be able
to create and launch and then just kind of putting together our own kind of Avengers of comic books
within the Oni universe. And then, yeah, and then on top of that, we're kind of working on kind of a
Web3 collaborative project. So I think this is something that would be great to get the apes in
too, by the way. We could bring some of that premium quality to the ape community as well.
That's awesome, man.
I love comic books.
I didn't read comic books when I was a kid,
but I started reading them after I joined Web3.
And it's great to learn more about the stories
because storytelling, I believe, is so important, right?
So yeah, it's really, really cool.
I also saw your tweet, guys, that something big is coming, right?
And you are partnering with ApeCoin
to create our most exciting Web3 activation yet.
Is it still a secret?
What is this about?
Or you can tell us a little bit more?
It's still a secret.
I...
This is a hard one.
I think Bobby's behind the official account, so he's watching me with hawk eyes.
I'm here.
Ready?
Yeah, yeah, man.
But the space is not recorded, guys.
So you don't have to worry.
OK, what I could say is like we're recording on the computer,
though.
It's actually designed to bring together everybody
from Web3.
So this is not just like a OniForce thing.
This is not just like a Bored Ape thing or whatever. This is actually
something that's going to be very exciting for everybody, every community. I think the pitch,
you know, was that in general, I think Web3 needs to come together more. I think everybody could
kind of agree to that. We've had a pretty brutal couple, you know, years and I feel like the vibes got real low, and Bored Apes have, you know,
the club has really put a lot of effort into bringing the vibes back, and I think Oniforce
has as well.
And so we kind of have a really cool activation that is meant to bring together Web3, but
also hopefully will translate into onboarding people from Web 2 onto ApeChain and stuff like that.
So yeah, I'm not going to say anymore.
This is where I start to get in trouble.
It's very, very cool.
I genuinely think this is going to be
one of the coolest activations that you guys
have ever seen on ApeChain, though.
Like, this is, the idea behind it is pretty awesome.
I think it's going to be really addictive for people.
And yeah, so.
Could you at least share a time frame?
Is it like before summer?
We'll definitely start rolling things out in summer,
so people will know what it is.
And we're going to give the entire community a chance
to participate and potentially see their ape or their PFP included in the activation.
So, yeah.
So, I think that's all I can say for now because Bobby's standing over my shoulder, heavy breathing.
He's got a gun in his hand.
You're doing good.
You're doing good.
Don't worry, guys.
We try hypnosis in like 20 minutes, and we'll see.
Yeah, you guys are good.
You guys are real good at getting the alpha.
So I'm going to un-mic myself.
I'm wondering what is going to be the most addictive part,
Sterlody.
Easy question.
You guys are clever.
You guys are real clever.
I almost answered that.
It's just the whole thing.
It's the experience and the, yeah, I'm not going to say.
That was a good one.
You mentioned Ape Chain.
So what is the collection size, actually?
You guys are off the hook.
Yeah, no collection per se.
It's something much bigger than that.
Although I would love to see something in the future like that come about.
But we're not just dropping another collection.
It's going to be something much more interactive.
I think it would be dope to actually do like an overview of Oniforce.
So you have a main collection on ETH, right?
Do you have any secondary one or Oniforce is just like one main collection that's out there?
Yeah, so we have the main ETH collection, which minted, I think, a month after Bored Apes in August in 2021.
And then we have a frames collection,
which is like our mech suits.
Now that's actually soul bound to your,
or token bound to your ETH.
So it's actually a two for one.
Anybody who has an Oni should check out their frame
because the art is like incredible.
It's like I'm complex,
literally drew a whole another,
you know, second collection
that is the
kind of mech version of your your original one and then uh last year we actually launched a
3333 collection on bitcoin which is the the fallen collection and those are the villains
of our universe so the heroes are on ETH the villains are on Bitcoin
You know totals like about 11,000 so it's still pretty pretty small in terms of overall collection size
but we are I think the first multi-chain anime pfp and
Yeah, they're
They're pretty cool. Actually. I, Bobby, you should probably pin it.
Just the art is awesome.
So the ETH collection is sideways facing
and then the Fallen collection is front facing.
And yeah, it's a good time.
Beast, could you pin that, please, guys?
Also, I forgot to mention that I'm giving away five NFTs,
Ape Chain NFTs, my Apeain NFTs, follow the Ape.
So retweet the space and I'll
pick five of you and send you
the NFTs before we wrap
the space up. So yeah, forgot
to say that. Thank
you so much guys for pinning
that so you can check it out.
What are
your
biggest plans for 2025?
I know we have reducted, so we can talk about some stuff,
but what are your main goals to achieve in 2025?
Well, I think aside from the thing that I can't talk about with ApeChain,
we have a pretty big initiative of going all in on AI.
And so the dream has always been to like what I call the future of storytelling, which is like a very hyper personalized, evolving experience where the community gets to lead the story.
I think the easiest way to pitch it is like, OK, if we're building like a Naruto meets Star Wars type universe, right?
like a naruto meets star wars type universe right if you owned the pfp for luke skywalker like
you get to choose what he does like maybe you decide he goes to the dark side you know or maybe
you own the darth vader pfp and you decide that he goes on a redemption arc you know like there's
there's a lot of ways to um now with ai to finally achieve those dreams, because I think the hardest part
of making something decentralized in a storytelling manner is keeping track of all the stories and
having them make sense. You know, it's just an incredible amount of work. And now we've been
building a lot of infrastructure so people will be able to you know create their characters have
put them into a story engine and then that means no matter what like where you are if you're doing a
gaming experience or even just on twitter or creating content like we'll be able to
track everything and put it together and so hopefully this is kind of the story IP engine that we could roll out to a lot of communities.
And so, you know, our recent announcement was a new token standard that we launched, which is called ERC721AI.
And that's like us reimagining ETH smart contracts where now any ETH NFT will be able to interact and be AI native.
So you could do off-chain stuff with AI agents and then bring them on-chain.
So that's actually going to be able to apply to every ETH collection actually in the future.
And I think that's actually what I'm most excited about.
Could you give a few examples of how this would work actually?
How we could utilize that? That's actually what I'm most excited about. A few examples of how this would work, actually, how we could utilize that.
That's really interesting.
Yeah, I think it's actually a game changer.
This is going to be a massive contribution
to the overall space.
Because really, it's funny.
It kind of came from me being obsessed.
I realized something really like,
I don't think I could say this outside of Web3,
but I've been obsessed about JPEGs for like three, four years now.
Right. Like JPEGs.
And so I think observing the space, the problem we had is that, you know, these JPEGs are very illiquid assets with no real utility.
Like every project, what we do is like we build the utility around the project and
then you have to connect wallet or whatever and that puts you at risk for a lot of things.
And then the utility stays off chain most of the time, right? So for instance, we have a point
system. The problem with the point system is that if it goes down, you lose your points. Or if we
migrate to another platform, we lose users.
With this new integration, everything will be able to be stored on chain.
So if you have your PFP and you go connect onto a website and you do something,
the points will be stored with your NFT.
And so that can basically manifest in many different ways.
You can upgrade your art.
You can collect assets.
You can connect agents that are tied to your NFT that do things for you,
whether it's automated trading, whether it's airdrop farming while you're sleeping.
And then all of it actually gets stored and tied to the asset
because you can have wallets tied to it as well.
And so this actually solves the problem of a JPEG with no real value, because now people will be able to see everything you do with your NFT is stored on chain.
And that'll actually have the utility stored with the asset itself.
with the asset itself.
So now, like in the future,
like when you sell your NFT,
you could actually sell it
with all the assets that come with it,
whether you're collecting artifacts,
other NFTs,
you have a portfolio of them
or meme coins, whatever.
And then, or if in our case
with the storytelling universe,
it's like if you're creating your story
and you're creating comic books and you're creating uh lore like it'll all be stored on chain and that way um you know
people will be able to see like oh this character's been fully developed so i'm gonna pay more for it
because it's got it's leveled up you know and so i think the cool thing about this is the way it works is like the smart contract itself is composable.
So it's actually up to the developers to decide what utility they want to be able to trigger.
you know, IP stuff or whatever, will be able to, you know, have their assets evolve and learn,
you know, try out different tools that all these AI tools and plugins that are going to be coming
out. Also coordinating stuff, like imagine like with swarms coming out, like imagine you have 10,000 PFPs with 10,000 agents tied to them that you can
coordinate goals and missions and actually accomplish things together. So kind of the last
thing I'll say, what I realized is like, it's not just about, oh, we're actually giving value to the
NFTs. I realized it actually works the other way
around too, is because AI agents are very confusing. There's so many of them coming out
every day. And it's actually really hard to capture that value as well, because you have so many
different agents, you don't know what to do. I realized the NFT is actually a superior wrapper
for those agents to capture that value and be able to
transfer it.
So like in the future, you know, when you sell your business, you're going to be selling
your agents, right?
Your tools that you use in your business, your marketing agent, your sales bot, your,
you know, whatever your accountant, you know?
And so in the future, like people need to package these things up and,
and what's a better way to package a digital product than in NFT. So I think this is actually
super game changing. And, and I think, um, you know, we're going to roll it out this year and
then we'll be working with a couple of communities to help them, um, upgrade their collections and,
upgrade their collections and pass that value to their community.
and, uh, give, give past that value to their community.
This is really, really interesting.
And I've seen a few CEOs, like CEO of Shopify and some other huge companies,
that their policies are changing so much.
He basically said that you or the employees should try first AI agents
before they hire a person on that position, right?
Which is something that a few years ago was like sci-fi
and look where we are right now, right?
So I think AI is essential for Web3.
It's great timing.
I think we are at the right time right now.
And it will be very interesting to see what's going to happen.
We've talked a lot, and I see Nana here,
they also talk a lot in other space about AI agents for other side,
like how it's a game changer for metaverse and games,
because you need to populate those worlds, right?
And with AI agents, it's absolutely a game changer.
So really interesting times. Glad you're saying that.
Do you also think about bringing Oniforce
into gaming, metaverse?
For example, Forgotten Runeses wizards they have a runiverse
game which is really dope we also have of course other sites do you guys also thinking about that
definitely yeah i think um our community is a like our core user is an intersection of somebody who loves comics, anime, gaming, and, like, lifestyle stuff, you know, like sneakers, fashion, that sort of stuff.
So gaming has always been one of the biggest pillars for us.
I think in the past, you know, it seemed very far away because it's just really expensive and difficult to do correctly. But now with AI, I mean, you know, we're going to definitely start exploring.
I mean, we've been exploring, actually.
I think the question is what type of game.
I think metaverse, we'll probably just more like support other side in the beginning.
Just try to, you know, be part of that community as opposed to build our own metaverse.
I think metaverses are hard to to build i think actually this we're in a metaverse with social
media and all that sort of stuff um but yeah gaming is i don't know if you guys have uh look
up schedule one i don't know if you guys have seen that but it's basically a uh breaking bad
simulator like you be you become a drug dealer.
The guy who built it did it with vibe coding
with no coding experience.
I think he had gaming experience
but no actual coding experience.
And that thing has made
$40 million in revenue.
One person built it.
Just let that sink in your head for a second. One person made a game
that made $40 million. Now, this is something that Web3 is built for. I think actually the
incredible part about AI is that blockchain and AI is very, very well suited for each other. And
then Web3 people are actually, we're the most innovative in the sense of being hungry for what's next
and being very self-sufficient and self-starting.
So I think this is the age of abundance upon us as creators, as builders.
And so I think we're actually at the forefront of this,
where we all have an opportunity to to do
something really cool so yeah gaming is definitely something where our team is looking at it and
trying to figure out okay how do we want to do this i think maybe starting with just smaller
games just to just to get some reps in um but then eventually trying to find that killer game where
we can create an actual revenue source that could sustain the entire community um you know so pretty pretty excited about it i do want to chime in here and
also say we were the first nft community to create a custom map in fortnite um what was that late late 2023 star lordy time yeah time is uh yeah like i forget sometimes but um yeah i wasn't even
on the team at that point and um i mean we've run a bunch of tournaments we've done a bunch of
community activations we have both like a tournament map and then like a hangout map
that's like based on some lore from our actual ecosystem so yeah we have dabbled in
it and you know of course we've been integrated with 10k tf since the very beginning of their
project um we're also integrated with the 8102 game which many apes and other ape chain members
would be familiar with so um yeah i mean we we love gaming just as you know a community and we definitely
dabbled in different areas so i mean i personally that's how i got into nfts it was actually through
um axie infinity so that's that was the first nft i ever bought so i've always
kind of gravitated towards that gaming aspect.
I think this is so powerful that one person can create a game that generates like $50 million revenue.
It's insane, right?
It's something that when I mentioned the games in 90s, like it was very tough to do.
So it's insane.
And I think this is a huge upside for everything that's happening on other
sites and probably other games that we as creators will have tools to actually build and test new
games, new experiences for people. Because you need to test, I think, a lot of things, right?
You have to figure out what works, what doesn't work. As I mentioned, like the GTA 1, you saw that Rockstar Games,
and they didn't call themselves Rockstar Games.
I forgot what was the name of the original company
that actually put out the GTA 1.
But the Rockstar Games, they improved the game.
Every iteration was a little bit different.
If you look from GTA 1 to GTA 6,
it's insane progress, right?
But they got feedback, they improved it,
and I think that's something that we need to do
with other side, because you have idea
what's going to work, but you don't know
unless you try it and you see
if people are actually playing it or enjoying it, right?
So I can't wait for that.
I think AI will play a huge role in that,
and yeah, it's so dope, guys. I can't wait to see what you are cooking. So yeah, so what
you're cooking for Apechain?
That was a good one. You almost got me again. I was like, what? Good thing my mic was off.
I can't say. I can't say. Bobby still has the gun.
He's watching me.
I'm watching.
He's always watching.
You have to try, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Much respect to you guys.
Eventually, if you guys keep doing it, I'm going to crack,
so I might have to leave soon.
But actually, I was going to say, though,
kind of tying in what we talked about
earlier is like looking at the um for instance the mba um program and the people who built you know
um one thing okay so one thing i noticed about the board ape community is that it actually
is the to me is the community with the most, quote, adults in the room.
Meaning, I noticed it has the highest concentration of people who have built stuff.
Whether they're businesses or have been prominent as an employee of a business, building a brand or something. And so the people are pretty serious about creating
and having something that's tangible.
So I definitely urge everyone to,
if you're not already putting in a lot of time into AI,
go beyond just talking to ChatGPT.
Actually try to build something for your business. Um,
whether it's like a scheduling app or a assistant to help you with stuff, like once you start doing
that, like you will see the light, like it changes everything. Like I actually has, I've, you know,
I made a tweet about it, but I've, I've forced my entire team to now become technical, kind of similar to like I think even going beyond the the Shopify CEOs thing is like it's not just like, oh, like, how are you going to use AI to like make your do your job better?
It's like build, like make stuff with AI.
You can build anything pretty much. And so we're still early,
you know, like it's still not super easy. Like you have to get through a little hump of like
some of the pain points of like learning how to prompt correctly and it starts teaching you
developing. But I guarantee you, like we're still early and eventually when these tools are so easy
that anybody could just kind of you know just talk
and create stuff those people who are building now will be ahead of the curve and benefit so
you know just as the ape community has been super supportive for us like if anybody wants to know
or support or like help like you know getting on the right track or building stuff like feel free to dm
me or bobby or anybody on the team i'm happy to share our experience with you guys because
because i think this is the way
beast i know you will have to hop off at some point so go ahead man
oh good yeah i was curious about this uh AI part and the tweet actually that you mentioned.
Is there anything specific that you're recommending to your team to learn about?
I guess we go beyond the chat GPT, right? You mentioned the vibe coding.
So is there something that particularly excites you and that you recommend people to start learning about?
people to start learning about? Yeah, you know, I think the best way to start is to just look at
your own life and your business or personal life and think like, where's like, where's an area that
you would like to improve that normally you would spend money to do it, right? And then, so for
instance, for me, like, you know, I have ADHD. Right. So I'm just like I want to do everything at once.
And I sometimes I lose track of how many things I'm trying to do at one time or sometimes I need things to be way more simple.
So like the first thing that I built was a chat bot for Telegram where if I want to schedule something, I just text it.
So I just say, hey, save this link or anything I want.
Like, I'm like, hey, save this link in my database
because I need to pull this,
I'm going to pull this article later
and it'll just save it for me.
Or like, hey, schedule this appointment
or on this date, whatever, ping me,
remind me to call my mom or something.
I don't know.
And then, so that was like kind
of the first thing I built um so really it's like the more personal it is the more you'll be excited
to actually build it so and the way I started was I was just looking on YouTube to see what
everybody else was building you know and I was like oh I was like an AI assistant I was like
that's what I need you know like I need somebody who's like with me, no matter where I go in any
time zone that could just keep track of my thoughts and my needs. And then and then other
than that, I think, you know, I mean, I love storytelling and art and stuff like that. So
I've been working on different products that will help, you know, again, build this storytelling
universe. So that really excites me. But I think for everybody listening,
it's like, yeah, you just think about, again, in your life, like, what are you interested in?
Or what do you have a pain point? And just start there. And you could even go into ChatGPT,
like baby steps, is you could just literally say to ChatGPT, like, hey, I'm interested in learning
how to build something with vibe you know, vibe coding.
Here's my interests or here's my pain points.
Can you suggest like a really easy app for a beginner to build?
And then it'll give you a bunch of ideas.
And then you can just keep asking it for the step by step instructions.
So, yeah, it's it's life changing.
Like, I promise you guys, it's's it's very very much like everybody if you
know how to um text message someone like you'll be able to build stuff you know that's it's really is
part of that process i like that like starting even with a small thing that can like
improve that can make even like a little task easier for you and create it it's similar
with nfts right it's so abstract to talk about nfts for the first time but once you go down
through the rabbit hole and you buy your first nft you play with a meta mask and you do all the stuff
that we do here for a couple of years now it makes sense right but then again you talk to someone who never touched the
technology and it's abstract for them so i really like this that approach to try to build at least
something small it's so true like when i first came into nfts i didn't even know how to set up
uh you know a metamask right which is really embarrassing to say out loud but um you know
like i and now i'm like literally
planning on building apps that are gonna have smart contracts and token gated and you know like a
like a comic book reader online like that that's token get like it's crazy so i think ai is like
It's the thing that humanity has been waiting for to save us from ourselves.
it's the thing that humanity's been waiting for to save us from ourselves
How many months away are we from the NFT projects having like an AI death that you will be able to literally create everything with AI?
Probably by the end of the year, I'm guessing, at the rate things are going. Google just dropped this thing called Firebase, which is literally a bunch of the AI coding
tools in one, and it's free, so I would suggest start there.
It's actually kind of insane, so I'm about to play with it.
For simple apps, we're already there, actually, and websites.
You can build a landing page
just by prompting right now um there's even like a thing for versell like vo where like
it also has the hosting built in so like you literally go from prompting to deploying live
like all in like one shot i'm just pressing some buttons so i think by the end of the year we'll
be able to build like you, you know, basic things.
And then definitely next year, it's, you know, we're going to be, you know, pretty all in.
So I actually, to tell you the truth, I'm trying to build Oniforce so that, like, I could replace myself.
Like, I think the future of NFT projects, like something like Oniforce is, like, you should only should only have like two or three people running a project.
And then even then they're more like gardeners
or editors that are helping to just like keep things,
you know, in order.
And the community should be the one doing the building
and creating and stuff.
So I think we're just like a year or two away from that.
And it just accelerates so much faster.
So that's why
i hesitate maybe maybe in six months you'll be able to build a pretty good app just by by prompting
it feels like even the rewards and achievements and the experiences that we talked about that
are connected or tied to your pfp that they will have more sense when we have these ecosystems,
when we have AI that it can check what your PFP actually did.
Because now, when we're on Twitter, we don't really care about whether
my mutant achieved something in the game.
But I guess when we're going to have the games and when AI can help
with check what all
the PFPs actually did, perhaps there will be like more more utility for that. Yeah, I agree, actually,
I think what's going to happen is like pretty soon, you'll be able to have your AI agents track
everything you do. So for instance, it'll be able to say like, hey, you guys have hosted like a
gazillion spaces, right? And then it'll pop up in a grok search.
Like, okay, tell me about the Grateful Show.
And it's like, okay, it's been going from this time,
they've done this many spaces, they've had this many users.
And then what's that going to do?
That's going to create more respect for you guys, right?
That's going to create more authenticity.
That's going to help people value what you do more
because not everybody sees it the way it is right now. And then also, I think it's going to also people value what you do more because not everybody sees it
you know the way it is right now and then also i think it's going to also help weed out the bad
actors because like you know i always say like your your reputation is a function of behavior
over time and so it's like for people who've been here it's like okay we know you've been doing it
but for somebody who's new they might not know so when they just show up and they're like a new person in the space they everybody kind of looks the same
i think with ai it'll be a lot easier to understand like okay who's authentic who's real
what have they actually built how can we integrate together um so yeah i think you bring up a good
point i have one more question and then i'll give it to you grateful just you mentioned before that
you guys gonna be trying also to get the anime fans or tap the web 2 audience like is there
something particular or some let's say trojan horse right that we like to say that could be
interesting for the anime fans because it's like so many people I just checked and it's like a
billion anime fans on the planet and they're not in web 3 right so do you see something you know
that could I do actually so I've had this in my back pocket for a while since I don't give you
guys any alpha on what the game is I'll at least say this part. So it's a game.
Hold on.
In terms of the Trojan horse part.
Step one is you have to build a killer app, okay?
Whether it's a game or an app, the experience for Web 2, the thing about people in general
in Web 2 is that they just care about the experience right i think one of the
biggest problems with web 3 is that we try to shove the nft idea down their throats too much
and it's the same thing as like if i was trying to get somebody to come to my website and the
the main pitch is like it's built on html5 and javascript it's so cool you're gonna love it and
they're like what is that i don't care
like all they want to know is like when i press the button does it trigger the dopamine right
like that's all they care about that's that's actually all most people care about and so
that part you have to solve you know but assuming you do i think the way to trojan horse people
is to not just build the um build it on the blockchain, like on the back end,
but also tie in like the tokenomics too. So for me, like any, like imagine like an app, because
what I realized, like for instance, in gaming, right, people are conditioned in Web2 to spend
money on assets that they can't even trade or take off the platform. And we all
know that's insane, right? But people spend like hundreds of dollars or even thousands of dollars
buying shit that it's literally just locked in the game. It's actually retarded. But what I
realized from that is psychologically, they are totally primed and okay to buy digital assets.
And so what I realized is on the back end, that money should be buying crypto.
So I want to build apps, like let's say with ApeChain, right?
I want to build an app where when people buy an in-game currency, they're actually buying ApeCoin.
And then you can auto burn it which would
make it deflationary or you could have it go to um you know a pool which then can create more rewards
for them like a kickback so then they could be like oh i just played this game or i just used
this meditation app that's really cool i paid for these upgrades and it's like oh what is this i have
a wallet like what's in here it's like oh i have like 50 of this thing called ape coin what do i do with it it's like oh i could cash
it out like i just got free money you know i mean and then once you do that like then that's when
they're going to be hooked because like i always make this joke it's like what's better than a
disney it's a disney that pays you you I mean? So it's like if people are already spending money on their own dopamine rush,
you might as well have them spend it on crypto and then give it back to them somehow.
So I think that's the Trojan horse.
It's not so much the app itself, it's how you integrate the tokenomics part.
Well said. Really like that.
I think also AI help companies and projects in Web3
to cut the expenses a little bit, right?
Because I still see that it's still so hard
to come up with a revenue stream unless you are minting more NF bit, right? Because it's, I still see that it's still so hard to come up with a
revenue stream unless you are minting more NFTs, right? And I don't know if anyone actually figured
it out. I know Pudgies, they are selling plushies, right? But I don't know how much they actually
make, if it even cover the cost. So how do you, how do you think guys about uh revenue streams for for onifors um
that's a great question i think um first of all there's no nft project including pudgy who has
created enough revenue to even come close to covering right yeah yeah not even close i mean
it's not it's like you know they raise money which is great but But if you think about it, if somebody spent $600,000 on a PFP, they have not come close to generating the revenue to pay that back to the holder somehow.
So I think it does still come down to the actual killer app and the things that could bring adoption.
bring adoption. There's just no way around it because it's about numbers. And so I kind of had
There's just no way around it because it's about numbers.
this joke that I think actually Web2 is exit liquidity for Web3. But you have to bring on
the people, right? Like they have to be onboarded. So you can see Izuki trying that with anime.com,
which is like obviously a fantastic domain that will give them a lot of opportunity
to onboard web to people. They're already like doing their stickers that are on blockchain
and they're like hiding it, that sort of stuff. So eventually somebody is going to crack it.
But that's again, that's why I'm excited about something like this game schedule one, because
it's like, imagine if anybody, any project manages to make a viral game that generates tens of millions of dollars and it's done with a small team, like you said.
Like, boom, there you go.
That's the revenue you need.
And so I think there's just no way around it.
It's like we've been in the bubble long enough.
It's time for us to get out of it.
And I think the technology and the tools are finally there where we can build games and apps and experiences that Web2 people will love.
Because we all know that Web3 is better than Web2.
I mean, we are going to replace Web2.
It's just a fact.
So I think it's time for us to get out of the collector mindset and go into the builder mindset, which is, again, why I've made my whole team convert to you know learning to be technical
yeah that makes 100 sense man uh i quickly say hi to mmwalk and uh
welcome here man do you also have any questions for for star lordy jam jam oh that's it's awesome
to hear what you're building star lordy it's i, it's funny how you came on and now you're telling us that's the game.
So, Greatflip you are.
I never said that. You guys are good.
You saw that, right? I didn't even start with hypnosis, man. And we already have the game.
Well, that recording button on top, that's not even real. So whatever.
Whatever. Apegang is real. You guys are hardcore. recording button on top it's that's not even real so whatever whatever but no
it's a game is real you guys are you guys are hardcore right and the vibe
coding that's the game
we'll chat we'll chat I mean Starloaded we need to chat beast it's so funny man, you really like I hear you like you are like I don't know
no like 300 feet from your phone man it's really feel like in distance it's
funny man yeah it's my cable headphones which usually sounds like really really
good maybe unplug and plug it back man maybe there's some issue bro but it you
know you've been like that for hours so it's okay now so m.m do you have any questions for star lordy man yeah when when when
we're gonna see all this amazing stuff no it's i only have questions that we'll have to chat later
on behind the scenes yeah dm me let's do it i'm excited to talk to you actually
it. I'm excited to talk to you actually.
Awesome. Awesome. I can't wait, guys. I'm so hyped, especially because we are talking
about ApeChain. Before we get into what MM is building, I have to ask you one more thing.
And that's, do you have any favorite projects on ApeCh on ape chain anything that's caught your eye anything that you are excited about
well actually i was just checking out foxy fam so i'm very curious about that so uh i want to learn
how how the a chain integration is going to be be. I'm so mad I'm blanking
on the name, but there was the
PFP collection with
one of my favorite
kind of AI type artists.
He did kind of the anime
style.
I forget the name.
I'm so sad I can't remember the name,
but I collected
some of those because I was like,
whoa, this art is sick.
I think it's Daniel.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was really cool.
I like the name of the artist as well.
Yeah, I'm super into art.
I think it's like Yoshi something,
the artist,
but I'm super into art and anime, obviously.
So when I saw that come out,
I was like, whoa,
this is not getting
enough love like outside of the the bubble so um other than that i i uh one of my good friends
von doom is building something i don't i don't know if that's announced if i could even say but
pretty excited for that um yeah i don't want to leak other people's stuff I'm just gonna shut up now I I'll also I'll chime in here um I've been a really big fan of uh G's um oh yeah G's is cool
yeah we like right after mint um haven't even really listed it I just have loved what they've
been doing right is awesome um dashbow is really freaking cool
if you have like a mutant or an ape um you should definitely go check it out because you can make
fun stuff with it and then um i also really like what dynasty is doing over at alternates um and
we're uh we're having some uh we already have some IP integrated in their game,
but some more stuff will be coming soon.
So yeah, those are two of my favorites right now.
Yeah, great choice, 100%.
Yeah, I love Gs.
We also have to love Gs because otherwise Rita,
he will wipe you and then you're gone.
So you have to be careful there.
Right?
But man, we were hosting a few ApeChain spaces and we got Gs from ApeChain Hub from NGB and Lost.
And it's so dope.
So really grateful for that.
Yeah, guys, what a great space today.
We'll slowly shift into the into the foxy fam so uh star lord if you have time you can 100 stay here with us if not uh if there's
anything else that you would like to share or add or maybe something that we forgot to ask you
uh go ahead man oh you guys have been amazing. Thanks for having me.
And thanks for trying to break me.
That was fun.
But I'm sticking around for sure.
Epic, epic.
Yeah, maybe we'll have one more shot, man.
So you never know.
You never know.
Thank you so much for joining us, guys.
Also, if you have any questions, drop them into the comments. And I'm giving away five NFTs.
So retweet the space and we'll pick five of you.
And you will win.
Follow the Ape NFT.
So that's it.
We have Foxy fam here on stage.
Really curious what you guys are cooking.
So let's get into it.
Yeah, appreciate it.
That was kind of a great intro to see what's possible with Web3.
Because we're doing similar things with bringing our brand over to ApeChain, the power of ApeChain.
But I'm glad you guys mentioned also Gs, because I was head of marketing for Gs on Ape when we started a few months ago.
I guess it's like a long time ago now in Web3.
It's like a year or two ago.
But, yeah, working with Rita and all those guys has been just such a blessing.
We have Sneaks that's behind the Foxy Family Count up here.
He's the moderate Gs.
So we definitely know the behind the scenes of Ape Chain and what's going on.
So I have to ask you also man so do you
know something that's not public yet maybe maybe not what can you share that but geez i'm not
speaking on behalf of geez no you don't have to right like you can speak on behalf of you man
right but no no no let's get into the foxy man just know that yeah there's a lot
behind the scenes sneaks actually knows more because i've i've jumped fully over to foxy fam
so i'm still i'll still help rita and and helen's ear and team and everyone over at g's but i'm i'm
fully focused on foxy fam now which has the full endorsement of gs and I helped SDK a little bit.
I think I saw some of you guys in here.
But yeah, there's a lot going on that's going to be cool with all those projects.
But I'm just focusing on Foxy right now on the space.
So stop squeezing me for more alpha.
So what actually Foxy Fam is, guys?
Yeah, let me give you a little history.
So Foxy Fam, we launched it in 2021, back in the OG days, right after Yuga released.
Actually, I think it was around the time of Mutants.
So kind of along that timeline.
And we went straight into gaming.
So we went straight into an endless runner type game and beat Yuga to the iOS store,
showed that it was possible to get a Web3 game on.
But due to our size, due to everything, we kind of scaled back.
So since then, we've launched, you know, little mini games, little participation things for the community.
And then I fully got, you know, brought into Ape Chain, helping other people,
and then still keeping Foxy in the loop so they would get, you know, whitelist projects and things like that too.
But over the last couple of years, we've really focused on building out
what we're introducing this week, which is Foxy Valley.
And it's a mobile experience, a mobile game, RPG-style game,
where you can jump into the world of Foxy and then learn about Ape Chain.
So I've been talking with a lot of Yuga guys.
I was just on a call with some,
I guess we don't need to name drop,
but that's the whole point of us shadowing
our collection from ETH to Ape Chain
is to make sure that everybody on Ape Chain
knows about Foxy
and then is getting ready for our mobile game,
which will be released here soon,
to onboard everybody into Ape Chain.
So it's our path to get people to educate them on ApeChain that aren't in.
So WebTube gamers, you know, this game will be on the iOS store, the Android store.
It'll be everywhere.
And behind the scenes, they'll be setting up their non-custodial wallet.
And behind the scenes, they'll see the special inventory item that they think is just in
the game.
And then we educate them through a mission that they run on.
And now they're learning about Ape Chain.
And now they're learning about Other Side.
And now they learn just like, you know,
Star Lordy was talking about.
The power of Web3 is that, yeah,
you can buy these in-game items
and that will help fuel Foxy Valley,
the iOS game, the Android game.
Or you could realize you can use this asset now in other
side, or you can use this in a different game. It's going to bring all these different partnerships
and these games together. And that's like my whole focus. My whole focus is I am bored aped till I
die. And in the little things that I can do, especially at the Foxy brand, if we create this
mobile experience, which other side isn't focused on yet, hopefully they do, but the market of mobile gamers is huge. And if I can
help onboard some of those people into other side, then that is just icing on the cake. Because Foxy
is going to be big on, you know, a ton of different deeds and a ton of gaming experiences over there.
But yeah, that's kind of the overall scope of where we've been
and where we're trying to get to.
And then we can dive into some of the details of the gaming,
what it looks like to shadow over to Ape Chain.
But yeah, there's a ton coming up.
So whatever you want to dive into, let me know.
Man, we often hear the word interoperability, right?
That you can actually use the assets across the games, metaverses, etc.
I know Somnia networks, they are backed by Improbable and M2, right?
By the way, companies that are building also tech for other side,
they have L1 blockchain, right?
That's focusing on also interoperability
between metaverses.
I think, is anything like that already happening?
Can you have, for example, Web2 game
that you can use assets from one game
in maybe another game?
Is it a thing or is it something really new that's
enabled with
Web3 technology with a blockchain?
Usually you have IP that's
specific to the
game that you're building. So you don't want
to be selling something here and then
you'd have to work some type of partnership
to then get it over to a different platform.
And you're talking database to database which if you're sending data through APIs, that's good.
But the setup for that and then making sure that each of those companies is on the same page,
there's promotional things that happen.
But when it's an asset between different platforms forever, that's where Web3 is.
It's on chain. know can be used by anybody
then we're talking about ip people are you know owning an nft and they're giving rights to
different things so they're working contract deals they're acting as if they're their own
agent so it just pretty much allows the public and like specific companies to do what web2
companies are like dreaming to do or wish they could do without all
the legal you know things and there's legal things that will be put into place but long story short
it's that's the whole point of web three that's the narrative that should be web three is that
gaming is now open if that makes sense and one i can kind of share an example of that too
um with what we're doing
unless you had something grateful no go ahead go ahead so with our game we we noticed when it was
just the running game we actually if you remember on eath when ozzy osborne came into the space do
you guys remember that with crypto yeah yeah yeah i remembered it it's a weird time i mean it was
liquidity extraction and that kind of stuff.
The team was great because we worked with the team for a little bit.
They were great until they weren't great.
But what we did with the Foxy Endless Runner game was we integrated CryptoBats IP into it.
So as you're running as a Foxy, a bat would fly down and try to get you.
It was like one of the enemies in the game.
And for our target demographic, that was pretty cool
because they might own both of the projects.
But for others, it was like, oh, it's just a weird bat.
You know, it just like flew down.
It has these bloody fangs and it's like kind of a fun little enemy.
But for those Web3 people that were invested in our space,
they knew exactly what it was.
But we noticed that their kids were the ones that were talking about it more.
Like for those that were holding the crypto bat,
like it was cool because like,
oh, I know that.
And you felt a personal attachment,
but it wasn't too different
from their kids that were playing the game.
And their kids kept playing.
Like you can only play an endless runner game
for so long, right?
Like as a 30 year old, 40 year old
and still be investing in web three,
like there's, there's only so much time we have, like, and we already don't sleep. But what we
noticed was that Foxy was turning into a family friendly brand, which is exactly what we wanted
to target. And that's what we've carried on through here. So whether that's partnerships
in web two, that are more family friendly, or in web three, I mean, I've already been talking
with Rita, and we threw a g's on ape into
our game and that's like the the connection that people have from web three but what is that going
to feel like from web two so it's it's kind of a fun storytelling experience where yeah we can
build in some gaming mechanics into our game i'm not saying that we're doing this but we can build
in some like reward systems for Web3 based on popularity
of an ape chain project in our Foxy Valley game. There's so much we can do, but we need to figure
out how to get the people there first so that we can study and gather data. And then we'll be
releasing some of these features. So my plan is to reach out to, I mean, obviously, Gs and Gobs.
I've already talked with Rita with rita and with james
and and they're all on board to throw you know whatever into the game that they need to just
because it's going to be a good web to awareness tool um and sometimes it's going to be for that
younger generation that grows up and like sees g's on it for the first time as a as an eight-year-old
and then when they're 15 16 or you know an adult, they still remember that brand and they're seeing, you know, everything just explode. They're like, I was there from
grand one. So it's, for me, it's like a passion project where we are able to bring so much value
to Foxy because it's a game, but more importantly to Ape Chain and all the communities that are
building. So that's why I'm reaching out. I'm saying Star Lordy, we should chat
because it would be so cool to have you guys in there.
It'd be so cool to then build on the,
you're mentioning AI,
we're building AI into the NPCs that are in the game.
So Foxy is obviously the central character,
but then with all these other projects as NPCs
or as maybe a brand on a wearable item.
There's so many ways that we can then educate people
on the different projects on ApeChain.
So the sky's the limit.
That's what I love about Web3.
I really love these co-ops between projects, right?
You mentioned Jeeze.
They are doing great.
We have Gulpz and so many amazing projects on ApeChain.
And every project has maybe a little bit different communities. Communities are
overlapping a little bit. It's really dope that we work together
and everyone is bringing something different
into the table. Also the Web3 aspect for me
I don't know if this is possible, right?
GTA 6 is like a huge Web2 game.
It's like insane game that's coming soon, probably.
I was thinking if there is a way for, for example,
Bored Apes, right?
We have 3D avatars.
You can verify that you own the ape
by connecting the wallet
if we can actually bring our
3D avatars into the games
so your avatar is not
only for other side, but you can play
traditional games too
and you're still building the brand, you can still
verify that it's your
ape, that
no one can, maybe someone can get the files, right?
But you prove that you own it.
Do you think it's possible?
And do you think that Web2 brands will actually be willing to do this or they'll prefer the closed ecosystem?
Probably that's the way for them, right?
Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends based on the project. We just don't have the tech yet to then, you know, have a ready player one kind of a system where you have the basic you know skeleton that's required to run
Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends based on the project.
through some of these unreal engine games that they're building but i'm sure that will kind of
develop over time and we'll all be important our collections in there and there'll be a you know
quick little you know sdk that you can plug into your system so i think it's definitely going to
be there in the future it's not built out yet but that's why I'm just saying for now,
for Foxy, you'll be able to run in the game
with any variation of the Foxy fam that you own.
So all the traits, everything that's in the game.
But for us to then say, you know,
any Gs that you own, all those traits,
you can now play with that playable character in our game.
That is like the ideal world,
but we're just not there yet
because it takes so much, you know,
server space setup and
if we do it for one we need to do it for many and then that's we want to build out the the
onboarding into web web3 for people more so than the the convenience of playing with any type of
character so we'll make it fun we'll make a lot of different variables that you can you know
purchase or entities you can import into the game but now, it's going to be focused on the...
Our main focus is to bring more people to Ape Chain,
and solely Ape Chain.
I mean, we were talking with Finn and all those guys
over at Abstract, and it just didn't feel like a good fit.
And Ape Chain was just the natural fit.
Talking with Quit and Shadowing is just going to be seamless.
We're going to do that at the end of this month.
And then talking with Diana and Onward
and some other people at Yuga
and the SDK that we're going to be implementing.
So it's a quick little wallet integration, super seamless.
It's mainly just a single sign-on.
So you don't really have to really touch wallets at all.
That's going to be implemented in our game. So everything's just going to be an easy smooth process once it's built and
then we'll continue to to build on that infrastructure with the fun stuff so um yeah
we're opening up discord we're opening up actually our game dev just told me that he's he's ready for
some people to jump in and and test out some some just basic
walkthrough of the city um so i think we're gonna pick 10 winners of that within the next
you know few weeks to jump in there but we're hoping to launch you know q3 q4 of this year
just being conservative but i'm i'm always pushing on our game dev to to kind of put things first and
then maybe we'll get some people in even earlier.
But I mean, it would be great if it's perfect timing with OtherSide.
But even OtherSide's first launch is going to be, you know,
just a smaller version of what it's going to be in the future.
So we're right on task with kind of rolling everything out
alongside OtherSide.
Yeah, and Gargara also mentioned that they are implementing
Dookie Dash into other side right
so I don't know how it's going to work but
probably these games also
Foxy will be you will be able
to implement it somehow into the other side
I don't know how like maybe you go
there you visit some spot and you can
play the game which is really dope I think
that's gonna be cool right like
we already heard about poker Do Dookie Dash, right?
So the bathroom blitz by Von Doom.
So this is going to be dope.
Guys, if people are new to Foxy,
what's the best way to actually support you
and become part of the ecosystem?
Yeah, we just started marketing this, honestly, a day ago.
Or maybe 36 hours ago or something.
But I posted a Rpinda post up at the top.
If you just jump into our Discord,
we're sending out foxy ape roles
to all those people that are jumping in now in our early.
So if you jump in Discord and you're chatting with us,
we'll definitely
you know loop you in with the first rounds of the game if you buy a foxy fam it's on east right now
it'll soon be on ape chain so it's it's funny because as we started talking about it our supply
just completely got gobbled up and i think there's only like 50 on the floor now and the floor went
up like 300 or something so obviously if you own a foxy fan then
you're like front of the line for everything there's going to be you know in-game drops even
like per season or per week there's there's a lot of things that we'll be revealing if you're a foxy
holder um but then our secondary collection is is called foxy hounds you'll learn about it in discord
and that's a larger collection that's a 6 000
collection that will always remain on eth um i guess unless something else changes but that's
those are the ways to jump in i would say the easiest entry um if you're just wanting to wait
until we're all bridged over and shadowed over to ape chain would be just get into discord and stay
active and we'll have fun ways that you can learn more
and stay in the loop with when our game drops.
I really appreciate that you actually picked the Aquamarine
background for your project.
Even though you have orange background,
it's like, yeah, you have a very aesthetic feeling
for your project.
Not for your PFP, actually.
I don't know, man.
Like pink and orange? Yeah, damn. I don't know, man. Like pink and orange?
Yeah, damn.
I don't know, man.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Orange on orange is a little too much.
I hear you.
You and Rita, everybody.
I'm kidding, man.
I'm kidding.
Are there any other dates that we should pay attention to?
You mentioned that Mint. Is it happening this month or anytime soon?
Yes, I'm just waiting on Quit to let me know.
He said it'll be in two to three weeks, this one we're going to shadow everything over.
And that's just a free, you know, if you own the FoxyFam on ETH, you now own it on ApeChain.
If you sell it on ApeChain, you just sold your ETH version.
So they're tied to each other.
And if you own a Foxy Fam or however many you own,
that's how many you own on Ape Chain.
They look exactly the same.
But with that, we'll definitely have so many more gaming mechanics
and also on-chain Ape Chain mechanics that we can do
once it's shadowed over.
So if you want to be in the fam,
yeah, just go grab one.
I think the floor is like 0.03 right now or something.
It might be still 0.025 or something.
So it's relatively cheap compared to other projects,
but it jumps up to like 0.1 real quick after like three or four.
So if you want to go grab one, that's awesome.
If not, then there'll be opportunities
to buy things in-game.
But I don't know how much I... it's so funny you jump on these spaces and you don't want to be that guy
that's like everything's secret because we're building in public but i can't share anything like
i i'm always that guy too so it's funny when star lordy was saying that because i'm like man he's
like saying stuff just like me but there's only, yeah, that we can kind of fully reveal
because there's just so much unknown.
Because there's so much that we can build.
So it's, I don't know, there's, I'll answer some questions,
but yeah, there's a lot coming.
It'll be fun.
I also brought Dojo on stage.
Dojo, welcome here.
Do you have any questions?
Not necessarily questions, but I've been here for a long time.
OniForce is probably the first project I can remember, at least PFP project.
Definitely the first one I knew the creators people on the team
and i've always been super proud of everything they've done in the space
regardless of holding one or not i just want to say i'm really excited to hear that they're
thinking about apechain
Yeah, 100% same here, man.
Also excited. Can't wait.
I hope we'll see soon what they are cooking, right?
We can try one more shot to see if we get any more alpha.
But yeah, it's dope to see the progress.
Even though the market is really like since like 2021 2022 bull market it's
still so uh turbulent right it it's not easy it's not easy space to build 100 but uh we have to we
have to keep going right uh and i walk because you see everything from basically first row, right? You're building your own project.
You help the G's, which is one of the biggest projects on ApeChain.
How do you feel about ApeChain in general?
What are the biggest strengths in your opinion?
Sorry, were you asking me?
With my yes, yes, yep, my outreach, my Yeah, I mean, I, I've
seen a lot of projects, whether it's, you know, we're going
clever, bringing people through, I've seen kind of the maturity
of a chain, even though we're all D gens, and there's only so
much maturity we can have but i the what i love
is that if we are doing something right we'll continue doing those things but if we see another
chain or another project doing something we'll also do those things too like we'll integrate it
next and the biggest thing that i saw from like abstract and some other chains was they were
focused solely on community we didn't have to really do that because we were already solely focused on community.
But then the next part was
they were rewarding some of their holders
in a different way than we were.
And now we're building that.
So I have full faith in Ape Chain
because if we feel like we're behind a little bit
on something, it's so quick for us to build
because the main builders are here.
So it's, I mean, and through G's,
like for Rita,
I've known him for a couple of years now
since the OG days.
And I was telling him like, dude,
if your studio is needing funding,
just drop a collection.
Like you'll be able to support it.
You'll be an incredible founder.
Let's just do this.
I'll do marketing for you.
And then it was two years later
and through the Power of Ape chain
and through Yuga reaching out to him
and then him doing all the assets that he was like, let's do this.
So then he found Zir and Aloe and then he somehow remembered me from the years before.
And I wasn't on the founding team, but I was helping with marketing.
So seeing those three now soaring has been super rewarding.
Of course, I'm like, why aren't you throwing my pink ape on there with all your stuff? But he's just, he read his read, he'll do whatever the heck he wants. But
now with his support for Foxy, it's like, okay, now I have the confidence to bring
these things to Ape Chain 2 instead of just focusing on ETH. So it's, I think it's the
people and then the businesses that are inspired by Yuga. And now Yuga that's getting into the space more with taking over certain things that maybe weren't working.
And then focusing solely on specific things instead of trying to acquire everything.
I think it's just like the perfect storm that is finally coming together now.
And then seeing, yeah, seeing Oni and everyone coming over too.
It's like, of course everybody's coming because it's literally the perfect time for us to all come together and to build so yeah that's how i see the market that's
how i see ape chain it's it's the best chain out there and price will be reflected someday with
that definitely yeah i i agree i agree too um we have great builders on ApeChain, to be honest, right? We have great people that I have known them since 2021.
Most of them, it's amazing to see.
It's also a great gateway for people that can't afford Mutant or Ape, right?
You can buy G's, Gulp's or any other ApeChain NFTs
and basically you are part of the extended family, right?
So that's really dope. We have so many spaces around ApeChain NFTs and basically you are part of the extended family, right? So that's
really dope. We have so many spaces around ApeChain. We have so many, I can imagine that we will have
so many events in the other side when it launches for holders and maybe for everyone, right?
I'm still thinking about gaming and Web3. And, you know, i mentioned those 90s games like diablo right you
didn't have any probably any other revenue stream there for for for the companies than
primary sales right you sold a game um and and you got money right uh then we see that uh in the in
the in the recent um you know games, you have in-game purchases,
you have battle passes,
you can buy skins, etc.
How do you think that Web3 Gaming will differentiate?
And do you think that also traditional gaming studios
will lean into the blockchain
and maybe they will have their own L1s?
I don't know.
But they will have their own L1s, I don't know, but they will use that tech
because they are trying to protect their business model, right? I think, I don't know who we hosted
actually, I think the John Linden from Mythical Games, like it's a few years ago and we talk
about it at the traditional gaming studios, their business model works, right? You don't want to
change something that works and generates a lot of revenue, right?
So they don't want to change that much because their protective system works well for them.
So what do you think about it?
How it's going to evolve?
Will there be separate studios that will go Web3 way or it will merge?
I still think about it, how it's going to
work.
Yeah, that's an awesome question.
I think it's going to take a lot of us.
I mean, there's so many games that are being
built on Web3
across so many different chains and
nobody fully knows about it because we're not on every
single chain. Plus the Twitter algorithm
or the X algorithm is like
siloing us from away from things.
So I think over time,
you'll see like CSGO starting to do certain things
or maybe it's Grand Theft Auto or whatever it is.
I think you'll start to see the model kind of tested
and then people exposing that,
oh, this is actually blockchain technology
and then it getting a better name.
But I think there is something to what you're saying
of traditional game studios.
They want to protect what's been working forever.
But then just with disruption, maybe it's through AI even,
but definitely through blockchain,
through disruption, things change.
And things can change quick.
You were talking earlier about StarCraft and WarCraft
and Blizzard and all these different games.
I mean, I was playing games in those OG days
and it was just you buy the game
and yeah, that's revenue.
But now game devs and like maybe power
with the power of AI can do so much more
than they could traditionally.
And they can make tens, hundreds of millions
on a single game that maybe they dev themselves
with a small studio.
So there's, I think over the years it will shift and i've read way too many articles recently of saying things are going to be completely different by 20 27 28 i think we're not even fully seeing
what's going to be you know implemented let alone know what's even going to be the governance of
everything so i think it's it's definitely too to tell, but I think it's also right around the corner.
I know for me, for Foxy Valley,
we're already testing models of not just the Web3,
you know, buy a Foxy fam on Ape Chain.
Now we'll actually get a little bit of royalties
that we can put towards the game or to the community.
We don't have that on Ethereum because of, you know,
OpenSea and, you know, getting rid of royalties
and we're making them optional.
So that's a perk to ApeChain and to specific chains.
But we're also testing out things from the Web2 part with Android and iOS where maybe there's a game pack that they can purchase.
They don't even know about Web3 yet, but now they're able to buy some in-game items.
And one of those items is an NFT.
And now we put a value to it that's you know
that's reflective of the floor on OpenSeer or Magic Eden and a quick link that they can go
check it out over there so I think as things get more standardized then maybe little tools are
integrated into different games PC games or mobile games but until that model is really shown
I don't think there's going to be too movement. But that's why we're pioneers in space.
You gotta build things to see it grow
and you gotta support things to see it implemented.
Yeah, to disrupt that model, right?
What I love about Web3,
and not so many projects still using that, right?
It's really documenting the history of the asset.
Like I love what 9DCC,
for example, is doing with their t-shirt.
You could connect it with
TokenProof, and if you entered, for example,
I think maybe even ApeFest,
it somehow connected
into the t-shirt, and whenever
you scanned the t-shirt, you saw that the t-shirt
actually was part of
ApeFest, and I love this.
I would love to see all these
events on my Ape like this
Ape was a ticket for Ape
Fest 22, 23, 24
I don't know what else maybe
all the trips and experiences in
the other side right
that would be really really good because
I played
Diablo in 99 right
but the character
that I played there is gone.
I don't know where it is. I know that there's
a battle net, you could have it there, but
it's so
long ago, I don't even know
my login and everything.
So it would be really cool to have
the character that maybe you can give to
your kids, right? That you see all
the history
in all those games and IR events and everything. I think that's awesome about Web3 and about
having NFTs, right, on blockchain. Exactly. That's exactly it because, I mean,
we're supporting our PFPs up here because we think they look so cool and our kids are trying to know
us by these PFPsfps unless you live some
crazy closeted life and they have no idea what's going on but yeah being able to pass this kind of
stuff down is going to be awesome and it's possible because it's all on the chain you know and and
hopefully there's better secure ways to to secure that to ourselves so that in 10 years we're not
like what was that ethereum wallet what was that you know you know i think
i think we'll be able to retain some of these things a little bit easier than you know that
diablo item but i i apologize because i have to get going um to the next thing but definitely
passing it back over to you and star lordy you guys are in good hands and let's chat star lordy
i think we there's different things that we can do, definitely.
Yeah, amazing, man.
Thank you so much.
One more and last thing.
If people want to support you right now,
you mentioned join Discord.
You can guys buy the NFT.
Anything else that would help you right now?
Yeah, I mean, we'll be jumping on spaces this whole week next week all the time so you'll you'll
definitely be hearing about us but yeah if you could jump in discord or follow our official
account foxy fam is up here too um that would be great set the alert on the foxy fam account
if you if you want that we don't post too much on that account just to keep it
easier for people to receive alerts but yeah those are the ways to follow us and you're going to be in other space also right today yep yeah we've got
a few different spaces that we'll be jumping into so um yeah we'll be on other space here in a half
hour and then tomorrow we're with dutchy he's hosting a specific foxy space to to make sure
we were on the g show yesterday so So then we'll have, you know,
think of shows or whatever's coming up, setting up some things. So we'll get more specific into
things as we go. Maybe we'll jump back on here. Amazing. Amazing. Good luck, guys.
Other space starts in 24 minutes, guys. So don't forget to join. I'll be there too.
If you want to join me here on stage right now, just request, I'll bring you here.
And yeah, what an exciting times.
No matter what's happening in the market, guys, you're still pushing, you're still building.
That's great.
I was just checking the GTA 6 and the budget for the game um the estimate is between one to two
billion dollars like what the hell is going on it's absolutely nuts like uh yeah it's crazy it's
crazy i don't know about about the movies like how much for example avatar cost to make but uh
you know paying one billion dollars for a game is absolutely nuts
and i can imagine that with ai it it might be much cheaper but they've been building the game
for like 10 years or something like that or maybe even more right so absolutely crazy what's
happening uh yeah other side launch launches in a month and something month and a half so or maybe more right it was June so who
knows if it's going to be first June or the last day of June right you never know so yeah exciting
things ahead guys last chance to retweet a space I'll slowly pick the winners and we'll slowly
wrap it up so you can join other space.
What a great talk, guys.
I absolutely love talking to the builders here.
We have another show on Tuesday, so can't wait.
Let me quickly pick the Twitter picker,
and I'll pick five of you who retweeted the space, guys.
If I figure out how to do that, right?
Okay, here we go give me a second five retweet pick a winner i also guys tweet the winners so please comment your ApeChain address under the tweet.
And I have the winners here.
So we have D Hustle House, VeteLife22, BoredOsaka1, BKES75 and SemiDodger.
So I got to tweet it, guys.
Please comment your wallet below and I'm going
to send an FTS yeah guys here on stage is there anything else you would like to
share you know anything that maybe we forgot to discuss go ahead
I just want to say again super excited excited for OniForce to be coming over to Ape Chain.
I had the pleasure of meeting some of the current team in Miami, Denver as well.
And also, wow, Foxy fam.
I'm super happy to see some of my ETH bags come to ApeChain. I feel like it's a welcoming place for any NFT
collection either trying to revive or trying to start. So we appreciate the host, we appreciate
you, grateful so much for helping us make ApeChain the best place.
the best place. Hell yeah, Apechain is 100% the place to be right now guys.
And I also, you know, I think about all the mints and especially from you guys
that I know that you've been pushing for some time. I'm always
trying to mint, like the primary mint, to support to support you. And I know a lot of you grind it for such a long time.
It's not easy.
And usually finding any revenue stream in Web3, it's tough.
Even as a content creator, if you want to do it, I would say, in a right way, it's not easy.
So I see these mints also as part of the support you write.
So yeah, if you minting something, just hit me up
because unless it's like a $10,000 ApeCoin mint,
that I have to think about it a little bit.
But if it's just a regular price,
I'm minting 100% everything to support you.
So yeah, that's the way how we want it, right?
To support builders, grow together, and damn, we have to kill it on the other side because
that's gonna be a big one. So yeah.
Okay, guys. Go ahead, Dojo.
I was just saying Ape Chain on top.
Hell yeah.
Ape Chain on top guys.
19 minutes to Other Space.
By the way, Other Space is our sponsor guys.
Nana here in the audience.
Also give him a follow because he's paying me to actually shill his name here.
He's sending us 0EAT.
Then he switched for zero
ApeCoin. So yeah,
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Thank you so much, Nana.
I'll be sweeping some ApeChain NFTs
or ApeCoin NFTs for that.
It's always a pleasure to see that.
It's like a yield.
It's like the official ApeCoin
yield on ApeChain.
It just shows in the wallet,
show up in the wallet.
So it's how it works.
But guys, one more thing.
Don't forget that the staking is moving to ApeChain.
I think on 15th of April.
So get ready.
Unstake, bridge to ApeChain,
and stake again on 15th. okay? It's gonna be juicy
first hours because
of course not everyone will do it on time
so it's gonna be better yield
than on ETH
yeah, that's probably the last alpha
I'm just tweeting out the
winners so please comment your addresses
have a great Thursday
enjoy outer space, I'll be there too
have fun and thank you so much for tuning in your addresses. Have a great Thursday. Enjoy outer space. I'll be there too. Have fun. And
thank you so much for tuning in today. It was a blast. It's always great to talk to builders and
people that are trying to push the space forward, right? So we got to be clapping our hands.
Let's go.
You know you got game.
Everybody, clap your hands.
Just clap your hands, everybody.
Come on, come on, clap your hands.
Come on, y'all.
Y'all ain't tired.
Say, I'm not tired.
I'm not tired.
I'm not what?
I'm not tired.
I'm not tired.
I'm not what?
I'm not what?
I'm not what? I'm not what? I'm not what?
The brains of father, the son, and the sister of the earth,
in the middle of the universe.
That was his first cover six-time rehearsed. To freestyle the pluronum like sex.
Beneath the screens controlled by the bees.
What does it mean?
All the shit I'm seeing.
You're on the band screaming.
Let's go, everybody. Have a great Thursday and see you in outer space.
Let's go.
