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Ontology x Mozo AMA!
Recorded: Oct. 30, 2024 Duration: 0:30:57Space Recording
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Okay, cool.
Let's kick things off.
Jerry, thank you so much for joining us today.
I'm just going to do kind of a high-level overview so everybody knows what to expect.
But essentially, we invited the folks from mozo.xyz to join us for a quick intro chat
today.
Everybody, you know, that's kind of been paying attention to Ontology's kind of growth
in the ecosystem and activity in the community.
We host weekly community calls or kind of offhand AMAs where we invite anybody that's new to
the ecosystem or anybody that we're launching a collaboration with, regardless of the phase
that we're at.
So with mozo, for example, we're still in the early stages.
So we're going to see how the collaboration develops.
But we're really interested to hear more about mozo and to also introduce them to the community.
So we have about 30 minutes and a few questions to get through.
But I'm really looking forward to it.
So Jerry, do you want to give an intro to mozo and also to yourself for everybody?
That would be great.
Of course.
So hello, everyone.
Thank you so much, Ontology, for the invitation.
It's a pleasure to be here representing mozo.
So yeah, my name is Jerry and I'm a core contributor at mozo.
Mozo, for those of you that don't know, is an innovative decentralized AI project.
And I guess I'll be talking a bit more over the AMA about it.
Awesome, Jerry.
Thank you so much.
So yeah, brilliant intro.
So let's just jump straight in and see if we can understand a little bit more about mozo.
And maybe if we could focus a little bit on what the core mission is.
Of course.
So yeah, I mean, as I said before, mozo is an innovative decentralized AI project.
And basically, we have the objective of disrupting the current AI landscape.
So as we know, AI right now is dominated by large corporations.
And I mean, our mission is to democratize, we can say this development and giving the power
to the regular users and communities by allowing them to contribute high quality data and basically
participate in the shape shaping of this future.
We know that AI is the future.
I think we all agree on that.
But yeah, we believe that it needs to be decentralized.
And in order to be decentralized, we need to make sure that there is quality in the information
that is provided to all of the LLMs and all of that.
So yeah, basically, mozo is here for that to make sure the future is bright and that there is no disinformation.
Awesome.
And I think you've alluded to this, but it would be great to know a little bit more about the overall idea behind mozo.
And like maybe I know you've already kind of touched on it, but if we could learn a little bit more about any specific problems that you guys are trying to solve in the market.
Was there was there a moment that you saw a lot of or that you saw a bunch of different issues and you thought, OK, if we could create something like mozo, we could solve a lot of those.
Yeah, I mean, obviously, in terms of the big tech domination, we believe that that is not the right path forward in any industry, but AI especially, as it would give too much power to this big tech.
So yeah, we've always had this focus on the decentralization.
And yeah, in the end, one of the biggest points, and I don't know if you're familiar with the dead internet theory and AI having a lot of bad information, that is something that needs to be solved.
And that's what we really want to do by curating information, by allowing the AI to have access only to high quality sources.
That is something that will have an impact in the future and will allow the AI to be high quality.
And that together with decentralization will be the cherry on top, let's say.
Jai, what did you mention there about being familiar with? I don't think I am, but just to confirm.
Yeah, yeah, the dead internet theory.
No, no, not super familiar.
If you have knowledge to share with us, we'd love to hear.
Yeah, basically what it says is that there is the possibility in the future that the internet will just be written by bots and AI.
And so everything you'll see online, every person, every account on Twitter you're interacting with is actually not a real human and it's actually an AI.
And when that happens, if that happens, actually the AI right now, it gets information from the information that is available online.
So if we reach this point and everything is written by AI, the AI is getting information from the AI and that information might not be correct.
And if that is not correct, it ends up in this loop where basically the information is not correct in any of the points.
So, yeah, I don't know if that was easy to understand.
It was definitely super interesting.
And I think it leads us on to a really important question, I think, for the community to understand more.
Is maybe, I don't know, do you describe Mozo as having kind of main features or kind of specific elements to it that we could touch on so the community can kind of really see, okay, this is how it could benefit us?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, first of all, it's not only the relationship with the ontology that is on the early stage.
Mozo itself is on a very early stage right now.
Right now, we're basically a Telegram app.
But yeah, but what we have planned for the future is very ambitious.
So, first of all, we have three pillars that I think basically are the pillars of Mozo.
So, the first one is the decentralized knowledge-based platform.
This platform basically serves as a repository for high-quality data, which is contributed by users and communities.
And basically, it ensures that the data is curated and accessible.
Then the RAGAS, which is a retrieval augmented generation as a service network.
And basically, this leverages the data from our knowledge-based platform and verifies basically that the output generated by large language models, it basically ensures accuracy.
And yeah, and in the end, it transforms AI from static to dynamic as it incorporates real quality data provided by the users.
And last but not least, something we call Mozo Edge Training Service, which is a service designed for specialized small language models.
So, it's made for specific applications or projects and basically ensures that any AI is relevant and effective for a particular project.
Thanks a lot, Gerry. I'm actually really interested in the Mozo Edge Training Service, as you just mentioned.
Has this officially launched? Like, do you guys have?
No, no. It's all being built. As I said, we are still in an early stage.
But yeah, of course. Hopefully, as soon as possible.
Yeah, of course. And we'll be waiting. And as soon as everything's released, we can definitely organize another quick spaces to chat and to catch up.
For sure.
I know it's never great to kind of do a comparison between specific projects or to kind of drop any names, but just from your experience in the space and how Mozo has been developed, do you see that there's big differences between what Mozo is producing and the features you're developing versus maybe some other platforms that are available currently in the space?
So, yeah. I mean, it's hard to compare, especially as we are still a simple Telegram app right now.
So, I guess if we compare ourselves to other Telegram apps, that's completely different as that is not our main goal.
Our main goal, our main goal is to go for it's the AI platform itself. And yeah, the roadmap is for sure very ambitious. But yeah, but we want to change this, the AI future into a more decentralized one.
And I would say that is the main goal that differentiates ourselves instead of going with using other big tech AI models or projects like we want to build something different.
Awesome.
Awesome. Totally agree. And you just touched on the roadmap. I don't know if that's anything you can share with us today, any information on the roadmap, if there's certain elements that will be released at a certain period, over a certain period of time, and maybe who you'll be targeting with that as well.
So yeah, in terms of the roadmap, we don't have real dates. And I'm sure that, I mean, we want to aim for as soon as possible, but it's next year, for sure. But yeah, in terms of who we're targeting, I think the possibilities are limitless.
So any sort of company project individual that is interested in utilizing AI technology, and of course, the community members who would be interested in helping curating this information and helping us grow all of this knowledge based platform.
So yeah, those would be the main targets, basically.
I know, I understand. I feel like my questions are maybe, I'm asking questions, like maybe these are questions we should come back to for Mozo, because I know you guys are on stage.
Don't worry.
I guess, yeah, seeing as like we're kind of doing somewhat of a community call, and I know you touched on community there. Again, I know it's very early stage for you guys, and you're kind of still in that Telegram app. But what would you say, like, how is the community being developed, being around Mozo?
Or maybe it's another project, or maybe if you've been in the space for a number of years, and you've kind of seen the reaction to this development of AI, I think you're kind of your fingers on the pulse with this. So it'd be great to get some insight into that, if you don't mind sharing.
Of course, of course. Yeah, I mean, the last few, I think, two years has been crazy for AI. I mean, I don't know if you've actually been following the situation on Goat and Truth Terminal.
There's been some crazy developments with AI, even AI agents even deploying their own tokens. So yeah, it's been crazy in terms of AI. There's a clear use case. I mean, it's clear that AI and crypto will walk end with end.
I mean, AI agents will be a very important part of the blockchain. And yeah, I mean, for us to grow our platform, we know that, I mean, we know that for users to use and to help us build this knowledge base that we talk about,
we will have to basically give them a reason to do it. And what we started with was the Telegram app. And the idea was, we will need a lot of users to do this. And so we have gathered a lot of community members already.
I mean, we have over 2 million registered users, we have more than half a million active users, we have more than 400k followers on Twitter, like it's been quite a ride for sure. But yeah, but in the end, it is still, we still are missing that next step, you know,
and going from the Telegram app to the, to the real deal that is going to be what we are going to focus on right now.
Yeah, I definitely agree. I mean, AI agents, I think, are somewhat of like a natural fit, maybe for our kind of decentralized ethos of Web3, right? So looking at, you know, the autonomously interact with, I guess, our smart contracts, DAOs and everything else.
So I'm really interested to see kind of how this continues to develop with you guys, and how our collaboration, collaboration with ontology will develop as well.
I just wonder, is there kind of any other info you can or insights you can give us about kind of how does Mozo integrate with or how does Mozo integrate with blockchain tech?
Is there some development in the ecosystem? You're maybe, I know, I know everything is still so early stage.
But if there's some development in the ecosystem, you can give us an insight into and any advantages that Mozo might bring for that.
I mean, what I talked about, I mean, in terms of the incentivization, for you to do a disincentivation virtuous cycle, we can call it, you need blockchain, because it needs to be in a decentralized manner.
And that is the only way to incentivize users to perform certain tasks, so to contribute to the platform.
And yeah, I mean, usability in a decentralized way is also only possible with, or at least it's the best way to do it, is with the blockchain.
So yeah, that's why we, what we think, yeah, for decentralization, we need blockchain, basically.
And I know you, I understand that you mentioned there was no specific insights into kind of a roadmap as per se, and everything is kind of 2BD or as soon as possible.
But I would maybe love to kind of get some more insights into, like how you view your future, like kind of developing in Web3 for Mozo.
Yeah, I mean, basically, what I see the future is where a future where AI actually gives high quality information that any company, any project that wants to integrate directly with AI knows that they are going to get correct information.
Because as we know, right now, sometimes the information is, even in a big tech projects where there's a lot of work being done on the background, it's hard for you to find, it's sometimes the information is not the most correct, not 100% accurate.
And that is something that needs to be changed, and that's something that we aim to change, and yeah, and the fact that the decentralization ethos, that is something that we feel is very important.
And we want all of the AI to be part of the decentralization ethos.
I think there's definitely, I think the AI market in general is booming with just a huge amount of opportunities, right?
I mean, it's going to be, there's challenges, and we were looking at responsible usage, maybe some regulatory compliance, the usual, right?
The usual kind of pop up in this space, but I'm really excited to definitely see how this, like, next phase will develop and kind of what the core focus will be.
But yeah, to kind of, I think, just to focus on driving or incorporating AI into kind of more long-term kind of value-driving strategies, if that makes sense.
So it sounds like I think Moza is definitely going in that direction.
But so this is a little bit off kind of some of our current questions, but would love to have your insights or even your opinion just on, do you see, well, as you're kind of developing Moza, I guess it does connect a bit, but adoption blockers for crypto in general, right?
We talk about this all the time.
I've mentioned it, myself and Jeff, you know, our head of European ecosystem, we've been in a lot of spaces together, and we've always kind of discussed just adoption blockers.
You know, maybe it's more difficult for developers to move from web two into web three.
I think there's a big issue with UX and UI, in my opinion, but that's coming from, like, a lot of growth and marketing side of things.
But maybe through your kind of research and development of Moza, you've seen that there are some issues in the space and maybe more so with AI.
I think it's getting a lot better.
I mean, one of the reasons that we went with Telegram is the ease of use that it allows for users.
I mean, even someone that has never actually interacted with crypto.
So a lot of our users come from web two per se.
So obviously they know web two, they've had apps in their phones, they understand that.
And Telegram made it very easy for these users to basically check out all of our ecosystem
and to understand that there is something that is there, to understand basically what is crypto.
So I think the next step moving forward should come through that method, should come to account abstraction,
should come through all of these things that make it easy for someone that is not experienced in using MetaMask
or using any sort of WebG wallet to interact.
So if there is a way to make it so that I can just have a simple app on my phone
or I can just have a simple website that connect with the email, like stuff like that,
I think will make it much easier for the common mortal, let's say, to have access to this world.
But yeah, I think we're actually moving in the right direction on that.
And it's great to see how crypto is becoming more and more mainstream
and now more and more people see the potential that there is there for sure.
Awesome, Jerry. Thank you so much.
I appreciate your insights there.
And I totally agree.
Actually, I was using Telegram before I kind of moved to Web3,
which feels like a long time ago.
Oh, interesting.
But yeah, I was working with an app development agency and they use Telegram to communicate.
It was just our main, it was like our version of Slack.
So I was completely familiar with it, but I totally agree.
It was, it's one of those easier apps to kind of interact with,
especially when you're kind of not super active in the space.
So I want to give you just a few minutes if there's anything you kind of want to let the community know.
Maybe we didn't get a chance to touch on it today.
We did discuss a lot, I will say, like core vision, a bunch of features, benefits.
And I know that there's a lot coming up for Mozo.
So yeah, just to give you a chance to touch on anything.
Yeah, just to give a quick update, maybe if there's something we didn't mention.
No, I mean, any of the listeners that are not familiar with Mozo are welcome to join our community
and to follow us on Twitter and be aware of what we've been building.
I mean, right now, as I said, we are still on that step before crossing the bridge into the product release.
But yeah, when the product finally comes, it will be awesome to have you interact with it and participate with it.
And yeah, I mean, it's a pleasure to speak with you.
Yeah, I don't know if you have any more questions to ask me.
No, I think that's pretty much everything from my side.
I do love these kind of quick intro sessions that we host.
So usually if we do this on a Thursday or Friday, I go into doing like a quick community update.
But we're not doing that today.
We're doing our community update tomorrow.
So I just think it's quite refreshing to host calls like this.
We were never doing, we had never really done this before.
But just to have an intro rather than focusing on a specific topic that I guess we could speak about at any time.
But just to let the community know that, you know, Ontology is still developing.
It's community and its ecosystem.
And there's so many projects out there for you guys to check out.
As I said, like we're in very early stage of our collaboration with Mozo as well.
But their team are great.
They're super friendly, really reactive.
So if there's any questions you want answered, I would definitely recommend just go and get involved and to try everything that they have.
I think it's going to be really interesting to kind of watch this space.
Yeah, the feeling is reciprocal.
Awesome, Jerry.
Thank you so much for your time today.
I really appreciate it.
My pleasure.
Thank you so much for inviting me.
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