I'm just playing moderator host here, but definitely this is an open discussion.
Anybody who wants to come up and speak, please do raise your hand.
This was going to be a lot less formal of a space until about right now.
But really quickly, let's just recap.
What an amazing week for the Jack Butcher ecosystem.
You know, starting with Elements checks, both the Christie's auction and the decentralized auction that ended yesterday was a massive success that sold out.
Happy to say I was amongst one of the buyers to pick up a physical print that we'll be getting here in the next few months.
Today, there was a collab that was announced with Punk6259 and the meme cards, which I think went live already and sold out.
And hopefully that introduces even more people to this community.
And then on the Opepin side, just a ton of extraordinary activity in the last week.
Thousands of new sales, new unique owners, crazy diamond-handed people emerging, just swatting away offers left and right, which is great to see.
And I think the coolest thing is a lot of people just talking about Opepin and a lot of past community members stepping up to answer questions, help people through it, resolve any complexity that they may perceive to be here.
It's been pretty special to watch. I haven't seen anything like this in a while. It's really, really cool.
And then, of course, props to Jack and Jaleel and Traf, who, you know, they've been super busy this week doing both the media tour thing and also shipping products consistently and pretty damn flawlessly.
So, it's been awesome. But, yeah, I mean, to the discussion at hand, release three and four happened moments ago.
So, we'd love to hear people's reactions. Facts, thanks, man, for jumping on as co-host.
You want to try to, I'm assuming you're at your computer, you see the release, you want to talk through what you see.
Obviously, this is audio, but maybe you can talk a little bit about kind of, you know, visually what you're seeing in terms of three and four.
Yeah, sure I can. Thanks so much for having me. Thanks for everybody who joined the space today and has been participating.
Look, I mean, before we even move forward, I think first and foremost, board, I have to compliment you on your arrangement of four cubes.
It's a beautiful green color there. And, you know, I'm really happy that you got that.
For people who don't know, Board came on our podcast. We host the Never Fade NFT podcast.
And one of the discussion points, and, you know, he's anon, right?
And, like, mostly we have guests that we have on video because we're making the video content there, too.
But he's anon, so we're like, okay, how do we navigate that?
And he's like, I've got this great, you know, like, PFP that it moves when I speak.
And so he came on with that.
And I'll pin that episode up to the top here shortly.
And so, but we talked about on the podcast the potential of him, you know, getting a Pepin that was on brand.
And so, sure enough, like, when this green, this board, Elon Green came available on the market.
Now, this was before, and, you know, I think a lot of people are familiar and have been watching in and watching and tuned into this.
But for people who aren't, you know, this was before, I think, this last big push on Opepin where there was a big momentum shift.
And so he came out and he sniped this green one off the market for 10 ETH.
There was a comment of, like, somebody saying, you know, it's just four cubes.
Can you believe somebody spent so much money on this?
Like, basically, who would buy this for 10 ETH?
And then so that's the meme now, the four cubes meme.
And, of course, like, timing-wise, like, that was insane, incredible timing because after that, we've seen sales up to 25 ETH, which one of those was, you know, one that it seemed like you wanted to part with.
And you currently hold 700 Opepin.
So you are the Opepin king and you played the Web3 NFT game like a fiddle.
I can speak for myself and probably everybody else on this, in this room that we would all, we're envious of the position that you put yourself in here.
So I think before, you know, before we hop in on what's coming out with these releases, can we get a little commentary board on this journey for you here the last, gosh, couple months?
Well, I'm a modest man and I don't necessarily want to pretend that I'm brilliant.
I just had a good gut feeling about this project.
And, you know, instead of hyping with my words and screaming on Twitter spaces, I just make moves with the wallet.
But I'm really happy I got the green one.
And I do want to say the cool thing about this community is it's been really nice.
Like the guy who kind of poked fun at me for buying this Opepin, you know, he's now like a friend and, you know, he's in the community.
So what started off as kind of a, you know, a not very good exchange on Twitter turned into everybody welcomed him in.
So it was it was cool to see it.
And I've I've felt very, you know, welcome into the community from the start.
And it didn't hurt that I've been, you know, hopefully acting as a good holder.
But, yeah, man, it's it's been great.
I, I, I just really love the biggest sort of reaction from me on the overall project is I love a perfect balance of constraint and of freedom.
And so Opepin has this really great through line of this shape, you know, that the Jack created that is a derivative of Pepe the Frog.
But now you're seeing just so many versions of that and the idea of being able to continue to create variety and uniqueness in this, this shape, this anthropomorphic, you know, Pepe the Frog.
But in so many different ways, it's just so cool to me.
And it really feels like an innovative project that has caused me to feel something that I haven't felt since like the origin of, you know, 2021 projects, Apes and otherwise.
So, yeah, I it was really, really fun to see what's happening.
But definitely don't want to talk too much about me.
I mean, definitely want to talk about the latest drop.
Thanks, Warren, for for pinning.
But, yeah, I mean, really, anybody who's on stage right now want to hear your reactions.
I know that the there were first rumors of one of the artists, the collab artists being Batsu.
Batsu was an artist who basically and he might join.
You know, he was one of the one of the artists that kind of inspired the original Opepin design.
And then there were sort of hints of him joining Jack in creating a custom Opepin.
And then a few days ago, he basically started tweeting about it, which, you know, didn't all didn't confirm it entirely.
But I think everybody was like nine, nine percent sure that he was going to be involved.
And of course, now we see the 003 full circle release, which to me is just incredible.
You know, it's the modern Mondrian Pepe color scheme looks amazing.
I can see on the Opepin art site, they are all way over allocated.
So this release is definitely happening for anybody who doesn't know or is newer to the ecosystem.
Every Opepin release, you get to see first what the art looks like.
If you want to opt into it, you can basically say, yes, you know, I opt in with my blank Opepin.
And then there will be random selections of whose Opepins actually get updated in terms of metadata.
And then, you know, if you're lucky, you get the art that you opted into.
So there's 80 total split up into six different categories of different rarity.
And, yeah, we've got basically one that's created by Batsu and then another, which is more of like a color color scheme.
And I believe that one is made by Jack and team.
But, yeah, anybody else on stage would love to hear your reactions.
And, you know, I know, you know, you're modest and you don't want to talk about yourself and that's respectable.
But I will say before, you know, like, first of all, hype on the on the Batsu, like there was there was there was speculation that it could be a collab with him.
Because Jack has mentioned multiple times about how inspired he is by Batsu's work and the geometric, you know, style.
And and so to see this come through on this very next release is fucking amazing.
Number one, and also speaks to, like, this idea that, like, we all believe that Jack has a really good pulse of of what the market favors, too.
And, like, that's the beauty of this kind of whole Opepin release strat that, like, nobody's done before.
Whereas there's 200, you know, packs, quote packs being released.
But, like, we don't know when and the timing is kind of controlled by not kind of just controlled by Jack.
But it's like you want somebody that has a pulse of the market to have be in a position like that to have control of when that happens.
And then the opt in option.
So right now, you know, Opepin.art, it's the website.
So right now, if you go to Opepin.art and then you look through the sets, you can see set number three, which Warren pinned here, and set number four.
And you can choose to opt in.
And by choosing to opt in, you're basically saying, yes, I want the Opepin that are in my wallet to be participating in this.
And maybe I'll get one of these and maybe not.
And it also is, like, a marker of demand, which right now, obviously, like, you know, everybody's super excited and hyped.
But it's, like, really interesting because, you know, if at some point something is not in favor, it just won't get released.
And we did confirm with Jack that and Jaleel that those will just, you pretty much, like, if they don't get oversubscribed, you won't see those again.
But this whole subscribing in and out of the drops is definitely a new concept and introduces a lot of game theory.
So, you know, I don't want to just hold the mic on my soapbox here.
So happy to have input from anyone else.
My co-host on the Never Fade podcast and someone I do business with and worked with and met through the Bored Ape community is Good Month Eve.
He's on the speaker panel.
Exciting, exciting Twitter spaces here with this drop going on.
I just keep flipping back and forth between set three and set four.
I think one of the most interesting things is, you know, this one, Tidal Full Circle,
and the board mentioned it and hit it on the head there,
that this was the original inspiration for the Opep and Mint Open Edition.
And, you know, I originally, when I grabbed those back in the day,
originally I just thought, like, having them side by side up on the wall
and, like, joking like they were, like, the first dollar you make in business
and getting them signed was good enough.
So the fact that we're here with this Opep and drop is wild
and Bats dude coming in and taking it full circle.
I don't know if he's still here.
Oh, yeah, he's still here.
So if we could get him up on stage, I'd love to hear from him.
But looking at what he put forward here, it's wild.
I think, you know, the 20 editions with the nod to the 3D glasses is huge.
All these go independently hard in their own way.
I'm particularly very curious with the shared background
between the one of one and the fourth editions.
I think those definitely kind of stand out almost as, like,
And the other thing with the consensus drop, you know,
one thing about Jack and the way that he's approached these projects
from the jump, starting with Chex,
is the numerology has always been dialed with Jack.
He's never gone into anything without the numbers making sense to him
And it's fun to see because I remember when, you know,
He was going through the kind of analysis of the burn mechanism
and really taking into account the spacing of the Chex.
And that's where, you know, it was the 80, the 40, the 20, the 10,
And that numerology is kind of came over to Opepins,
the way it breaks up an 80 set.
And then, once again, with consensus,
each one of these Opepins categories for these editions maps directly to the elements
that just went down for that phenomenal performance with Christie's
and then the Christie's auction on chain.
So, this is beautiful to see.
And I think what a way to bookend that Christie's auction for Jack
by having this forced set of consensus up here.
It's going to be interesting.
Oh, might have lost good month there.
I think he rocked momentarily.
Good moment to say hey to Bats.
Thanks for coming up, man.
Hopefully, it's a big day for you.
Well, thanks for having me.
I don't know how to explain it.
I mean, I feel like my machine is about to explode
with all the notifications that are coming in.
But, no, I mean, it's great.
I think, you know, I tried to say it in that tweet thread,
but it's just, you know, it's just kind of wild
how everything just works out in this way.
And it's truly, you know, just come full circle like this.
I got to ask, did you and Jack and Jaleel and team
kind of plan that you would leave some breadcrumbs
and allude to you being one of the collaborators?
Because you kind of, you didn't confirm it,
but you kind of hinted at it.
Yeah, I think, you know, and I, it's so funny.
I, well, Jack approached me, gosh, I don't know when that is.
Jack, you could probably remember,
maybe it was like a couple weeks ago, three weeks ago
And, of course, like, you know, I'm on that shit.
Absolutely want to, no doubt about it.
And so as we are working through them,
you know, working through the set,
you know, I'd mentioned Jack,
and I really hope that this didn't, like,
ruin any of your plans, Jack, or anything like that.
But it was like, I was like, hey,
can I just, like, start teasing?
You know, let me just, like, share one of them.
And he gave me the green light.
So I knew that, you know, it was coming.
I didn't know if it would be today or, you know,
weeks or, you know, sets that follow this.
But, and I didn't, so you probably saw me, like,
avoid a lot of questions.
It was like, hey, are you dropping today?
And, like, you know, I don't really know,
and I don't want to confirm yes or no.
But, yeah, I mean, I'm stoked.
And, like I said, I just, honestly, like,
from my story as a designer, you know,
I can, so long ago, like, discovering Jack's work.
So, you know, I've known, you know,
about what he's done with Visualize Value
and everything for so long.
So it's just like a, I don't know, man.
Life is just, like, fucking weird in that way sometimes.
So it's definitely, like, one of those surreal moments
to kind of, I'm going to try not to say this too much,
but, like, come full circle,
which is, you know, exactly why we titled it that.
Yeah, I mean, you're all playing around with an idea.
You know, Matt Fury came up with this character
and then it's being reimagined in so many ways.
And Jack reimagined what you did.
You reimagined what he did.
You know, curious, like, you've kind of operated
with a lot of constraint with your art before.
What was your homework assignment, basically, with this?
Like, was it basically, you've seen, you know,
did Jack go to you and say, like,
you've seen the, you know, the first round
Or, like, yeah, how much, how much constraint did you have?
I mean, you know, it was basically the prompt was, like,
hey, go create a set, you know,
just to have the freedom, what, you know,
just use, you know, your ideas and your taste
and just, like, how you work and create something.
Well, well, maybe we'll...
Bats, if you can hear this, yeah,
your internet might be out for a minute.
But, Warren, that's a good moment.
Yeah, I think that 003 and 004 couldn't be any better.
Yeah, it's been a full circle moment from my observation
over the past many months and whatnot.
And, you know, to find ourselves here in, you know,
late May after the, you know, Pepe, the coin,
and just kind of like this meme coin cycle,
we're trying to get NFTs, like, you know,
the heartbeat recovered, I guess.
You know, some excitement in the space
and just, like, some really good collaborations.
And I think that this is just the epitome of all that.
I think there needed to be a little bit of a cleansing,
a little bit of rehab that the whole space had to go through
And this is a really nice counterbalance to that, in my opinion.
You know, everybody has their own feelings on it.
Bats, good to see you back up here.
Hopefully you can hear it.
Yeah, just to, you know, quickly follow up what I was saying, too.
You know, I'd put together some iterations,
sent Jack, like, a Figma link,
and we kind of jammed on it for a little bit
just to refine the set of touch.
You know, I had developed, in total,
probably, like, 20 or 30 options
that I had ended up cutting down myself
and presented Jack with nine,
and then we just kind of worked through those to,
you know, like, refine it.
Some of them looked a little too similar.
Maybe, like, weren't quite, you know,
didn't work super well as a whole set,
I couldn't be happier with where all of this landed.
Oh, yeah, Bats, just curious.
How did you approach the,
kind of the addition set up here?
Because, you know, you're going from a 40, 20, 10, 5, and 4.
So when you think about a 5 edition versus a 4 edition,
with it just being one, one Opep and off there,
what kind of approach do you take to the distinction
Honestly, man, it was like throwing darts at a dartboard.
It was just like a gut reaction kind of thing.
You know, there was definitely no method to it.
I think the only, you know,
the only, like, thing that I was certain of
was that, you know, the one that is more square
and, like, that true kind of profile
that set a lot of this off would be the one of one.
Everything else was more so just in the moment.
Yeah, this feels like the 404.
You know, other than that,
there's no equation or anything like that to follow, for sure.
Bats, is the one that I pinned up here,
Can you speak on, like, how you and Jack
came to that conclusion with that one?
Yeah, I think that was just, you know,
I think it was more so me.
And I, you know, I assume Jack agreed
because I was like, this has to be the one-on-one.
You know, again, like, to speak to it,
I think it was, you know,
going from the kind of original approach
to Geometric Pepe and, like, deconstructing him
and trying to capture the essence of Pepe
within, you know, something that is a little bit,
there's not a better way to explain it,
but something that's, like,
a little bit more artistic and deconstructed.
And you kind of, like I said,
you still capture the essence of him.
That was, like, always the approach for me
from the get-go whenever I started
And so whenever Jack released
similar deconstruction of the thing,
given that those two things
kind of had this squared off,
you know, very, very straightforward look
It just felt right to be the one-on-one.
I just, it couldn't be any other way,
You're also a holder of Opep and
of a blank Opep and at least one, I know.
How does, how does it feel
from that side of things?
Like, you know, as an observer,
did you pump Jack for a bunch of information
and he wouldn't tell you or anything?
Trying to get the inside alpha.
Honestly, it's such a fun,
it's just, like, such a great mechanic.
it kind of keeps you on your toes
I'm sure everybody experiences
like, mechanic to kind of go by.
traditionally used to here
and they're all gonna reveal,
I love being a holder of them.
I picked up a one-of-one today
So, I picked up one today
some lower edition one, too
that's definitely my plan.
was gonna have the series
I see all these references
it plays with this abstraction
definitely the first person
and have just always been,
kind of infatuated with it
you're absolutely spot on.
we had kind of on the set,
to include it in the drop,
whenever January kind of came around
and my work started picking up
replies or reactions to things
and it just kind of became,
tied to me a little bit more.
everybody's just always posted
I have to make one of these.
since it didn't go with the full set,
I'll probably snapshot it
It feels like a really nice compliment.
You have this super classy,
It's like a perfect compliment.
We were excited when the rumors
were swirling about you doing this
I'm really happy now that you're,
assuming this thing becomes
a long-term historical project,
it's a nice feather in the cap.
thanks for having me up here.
I could go on and on and on.
just want to give thanks to Jack and Jaleel
and everybody who has just like supported
especially like over these past,
seven or eight months has been like quite,
And I don't know if I would have told myself
that this would be happening now.
I'm really grateful for all this.
So just everybody who's listening,
continue to just deliver and make things that people enjoy.
Cause that's kind of what it's all about.
before I guess we switch to some other topics,
do you want to just give everybody a quick,
notice of where they can find your stuff besides,
your Twitter handle here?
I've got some work that I've done with,
fake rares as well as notable pepes.
I'll have hopefully another series or collection drop in later this year,
but I'm just going to kind of take my time and give it a few months and,
make sure that the time is right,
and his art is fantastic.
And I can't wait to sit and stare at the screen for an hour and decide,
which ones I'm going to opt into,
which of course is going to be all of them,
but I'm just pretending like I'm going to think about it.
certainly want to give some attention to,
or drop Oh four zero zero zero four consensus that feels relevant to,
Anybody have thoughts and reactions on,
I was just going to say first,
I feel like I've been part of this project for a year already with how much
stuff has happened these last few weeks.
There's just so much stuff going on at once and everything's like amazing.
Opepin was to get one of every edition and,
and see what my collection looks like at the end of this.
I realize I do not have enough Opepin and I need to get a lot more,
stay with the excitement.
I'm looking at the numbers right now.
I only have one of those and already have a one out of over one in a
thousand chance to get one of those.
and everyone is different too.
even if you get a one of 40 in this collection,
you'll have a different PFP of everything.
good job on your collection as well.
I'm a really big fan of the,
20 additions and the 10 additions.
I really like that green,
background on the 20 additions.
So I'm going to try to go for,
the one of one and one of four,
it's like hitting the lottery.
I get into any of these two sets and,
just amazing job from both the VV team and bats as well.
what we got to remember is with each one of these drops,
obviously there's this like opt-in and then this like anticipation of,
am I going to potentially land one of these,
then there's this like very dynamic and interesting secondary market action.
people don't know at first necessarily where to price these things.
sometimes that leads to opportunity,
looking back to this like series one and two drop,
like those series ones were available in the secondary market at,
I don't know what the lowest sale was,
maybe like an accidental one,
But maybe like an ETH or,
so I know a lot of people probably feel like suddenly very underexposed to
and certainly you're not alone.
I've had multiple people say,
I was going to buy one of those series ones,
like at two or three ETH.
And now they're like deliberating,
whether they're going to pay,
which imagine this all happened in like a week.
So kind of crazy how the space works.
really a nod to like consensus and how momentum can shift when you kind of hit
I wanted to like kind of highlight the fact that each one of these,
each one of these releases,
there's this like pre-release anticipation phase,
then this like reveal phase,
and then this like wild secondary market phase.
So if you think about it with like NFTs in general,
it's always when the NFT first comes out that some of the wildest action happens
it looks like Jack and Jaleel has,
have lined us up for a lot of exciting kind of moments here.
and I think one thing with NFTs is like,
how do you sustain interest and how do you sustain that excitement?
And this is definitely a new approach to,
to trying to create like a long-term sustainable,
I don't know if you realize good,
but you got rugged kind of midway through what you're saying.
I'm not sure if you wanted to finish your,
I don't know where I got rugged.
I was probably going over the,
Did you hear me say about like Jack and numerology?
you basically cut out at that point.
I was going to say for those people that were following Jack from the
he was just very thoughtful on numerology of,
spacing of the checks and the breakdown of the numbers and burning.
cause I think from the outside perspective,
if you saw the burn mechanisms go 80,
you might've been confused,
but there was a lot of thought process that went into that.
And that numerology is kind of came over to the 80 pack,
representative of the 80 checks for Opepin.
it's just nice that all these sets with the Christie's auction line up to
It just makes it very clean.
So each edition has that same category,
but on that consensus note,
Jack made the claim of PFPs being beachfront property,
You went after the Christie's auction consensus checks,
And now there's an actual direct tie to get the beachfront property to
those physical prints along with the digital art.
And this isn't even the full circle,
So I find that fascinating,
I think it's incredibly bullish on this.
I find it extremely fascinating that set three and set four can feel so monumental.
I didn't expect that to be honest.
I thought set three and set four were going to be interesting,
but to have one of them be,
an ode to the beginning and one be a capstone to what just happened is,
I know you might be tired of talking,
that static green that you have going on,
that 20 edition set just blown up on my wide screen right now.
I don't know what's operating on me when I stare into these 3d,
these 3d glasses here with this green background,
but I'm loving every bit of it.
So thank you for the art,
are you done for the week?
Can you take a nap or are you going to ship a couple of things over the
I'm just in a tire repair station right now.
I've got a nail in my tire.
the universe is balancing everything out as expected.
If that's the worst thing that happens to you this week,
participating for opting in for hosting this thing.
I was planning on just listening when I rejoined.
the invite and the join at the same time.
sit and listen here while I negotiate without a wallet to get my tire repaired
I can't even believe that.
Do you think you would take any old pepin or no?
when you're done negotiating,
don't pay over 150 per tire,
if you have a moment or want to chime in,
I think the funniest thing to me and Jack's been very vocal about this,
is just like the progression of putting out,
this idea of an open edition for free.
And then pretty much saying it's not,
don't expect anything to,
this incredibly intricate,
thoughtful mechanic that a lot of us haven't really seen before.
It's almost maddening to me,
iterating on game design and just going through it for a year or two years
how a game mechanic works.
And then this guy just in three months,
obviously with help from others,
but pulls off what is just an incredibly clever mechanic is,
I often don't see these things as like a bolt of lightning,
but it's really a reflection of deep thinking that enters your
And eventually it comes out in different ways.
And I think that's what happened here.
putting out just great artwork and thinking and design,
for years and years and years.
now we're benefiting from that with this particular project.
I'm glad that this didn't end up just being a simple experiment.
It still is an experiment,
my mind is being blown away.
I have so many stimulations in my mind.
I'm hearing all these interesting points.
I will just go quickly through them.
I don't know if my mind will be able to handle it,
one of the most genius things is exactly.
Somebody mentioned it before.
the most fun part of NFTs is in the revealing parts.
Pepin kind of like has this unlimited on reveal parties,
it's going to take years for all of them to reveal.
So we are in for like an amazing ride.
and the fact that we can opt in and then after,
I found very interesting after each reveals,
there's like this kind of like subcultures appearing of holders of those 80.
So we saw it with the first one and then they had the,
Twitter group and they are like,
they're becoming this little community inside of the bigger up happening community.
And what's going to be interesting is that the more Jack starts to collaborate with other artists,
you're going to get all this different community.
communities becoming part of this one big up happening community.
that is just like fucking genius.
this is a very interesting development and,
but it's also a very nice one that,
the one ones of the whole collection,
Now we're getting everybody that has a one,
This is also like a separate collection,
So there's all this communities inside of the community and network effects happening in between all of them.
in the consensus number 004 that just dropped,
the elements that we all participated on yesterday,
Somebody tweeted something like this,
it would be great to use elements,
and then Jack reacted with this emoji.
for this amazing experience.
the fact that Opep doesn't have a discord.
It doesn't have like the centralized place to converse.
it's just naturally happened.
there's Twitter chats and,
and private discords and all these things.
I kind of liked that it's emerging naturally where,
the team can focus on shipping the product and not worry about community
And that's pretty unique to the NFT space.
how you guys feel about it.
do you see that as a good thing,
I'm not pushing either way.
I'm very happy with sort of the organic nature of how these groups are
I guess if I'm playing straw man,
not all information will be accurate and,
push or share information that,
perhaps is not really official,
How do you guys feel about,
sort of the less centralized format for communications?
specifically shaped a wonderful community.
and it could just be by happenstance,
but what I particularly noticed was because there was no forum,
like no established official forum for people to gather in.
it made people speak up in an intelligent way,
whether it be on the timeline or through DMS to really kind of almost,
proof of participation or proof of knowledge in the space,
rather than just popping in a designated spot.
Obviously you do lose a little bit of,
reach that way because there isn't an easy spot for you to jump into,
there's one thing that at least is,
is clear that came out as a by-product is that every single person who got
prior to this point or up at this point with the elements auction,
there's no shortage of information for them to go gather themselves and kind
of build their own lore around,
we can't possibly understand the effect that that has on this collection,
that community while we're in it.
But I think when we do some revisionist history on it,
we'll find out that everybody has their own kind of unique perspective that
they've had to sleuth their way into this community.
I don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
And to your straw man argument,
definitely there can be cracks in the system,
but right now in the market that we're in,
And I wouldn't have wanted any other way,
but I'm curious on your take board and facts and anyone else.
I can hop in there board.
I think there's pros and cons.
like to your point is it kind of stimulated people who were really
motivated to be involved and wanting to,
express that through like a D more decentralized way.
And I think that there's a lot of positives to that.
And it starts to kind of really,
it kind of underlines this big point that I think is very relevant with OPEP in,
which is a permissionless proliferation of the meme,
which is this idea that the more people who,
share the idea in their own way,
or however they see things,
then that idea in this case,
grows and proliferates and creates,
boundless lore essentially.
I think ultimately with the direction that this,
everyone like wants to see this go and grow.
And so anything that would precipitate that without would stimulate behavior that,
the downside then is like,
we do have clearly like a lot of people who are hyped about this and want to
participate and want to be active and hold on one second here.
all good while we're sorry.
I was just going to say that with this network and like the economic energy
just circulating through this network.
I feel like if there was a more centralized approach to organizing and
then it would perpetuate that and allow for more faster proliferation.
So that's kind of like the pro con that I see there.
to me and anybody who's followed,
like discord as a product is like the antithesis of minimalism,
if you want to communicate information to people and onboard somebody into
ideas or a project it's like taking a website and making it more
complicated and then having a bunch of people shouting on top of it.
So it has become the de facto centralized hub for,
I'm definitely a staunch critic of it.
I'm very happy with the approach here and really it feels like the
like Opeppen.art does a lot of work as well as of course you know,
I saw Jaleel snuck up here for a second,
good work today and the entire week.
I think Jaleel is still up here now.
I think it works very well that you kind of like create the,
the arts and the community appears around it organically.
and I don't know if you know the story of how Jack and Jaleel met,
but maybe he can tell it is himself.
That's actually illustrates very nicely how people are seen as
participants and they're stimulated to,
do your own thing and react to it.
and don't be just a consumer,
but join the community and participate and create because everything is,
you can just grab it and make your own.
And I think this in the longterm is a lot,
a lot more effective and a lot more fun.
I know you talked a little bit about how you guys met over the few spaces
you've done and did one this morning.
And it was very much fitting,
your story of kind of reaching out and following Jack and eventually partnering
like pretending you're in the shoes of a,
of Opep and like take yourself out of it.
What's your favorite part?
it's hard to step away from something you work on so deeply,
what's the most exciting thing for you?
the fact that we revealed all the rarities up front.
I think that was a super interesting approach.
And then have these little preset drops.
I think from a collectible dynamic standpoint,
it makes the collection super interesting.
I think I mentioned this shortly on the podcast with good and facts.
Designing a collection that's fun and easy to collect and make sense to
I think like a clear distribution of rarity.
It's funny if we think about it,
like before there was right rarity,
by just looking at the numbers and by introducing this very simple edition
size based rarity system up front,
it makes sort of collecting these more like little cards or whatever,
a much more enjoyable experience at multiple entry points,
which I think is also very healthy to have whales be able to go for the
and everyone else go for the 40 editions,
so that mechanic of just having all these predefined and that defines basically
the entire collectible dynamic of the,
these little drops that keep us on our heels,
we were not expecting you guys to join and it's incredible that you did,
and doing everything you did this week on top of being dads,
So thanks for even just being on stage.
I am so excited about the fact that this is done in increments of 80.
it is you guys signing up for a long period of time.
you've built a system that's pretty,
but the part that isn't repeatable obviously is sourcing amazing partners and,
coordinating all of the back and forth of,
approving art and keeping everybody,
tight lipped until the right moment and,
and who knows what else will come up.
It shows a really powerful commitment.
for doing what will probably take,
I would imagine at least a year,
But what I was going to say is the increments of 80 to me really,
to every artist that you end up working with.
If you drop a thousand or 5,000 at the same time,
it's such a powerful stage that you're giving other people,
who may or may not need a stage,
it's just a sign of respect.
And I think it was Pimu said,
they can just decide amongst themselves.
if you're within a particular group of 80 and you really love that art
you can decide within that 80,
what's the most important trait for you.
And the people who really love set three and the people who really love set,
they don't need to necessarily compare themselves to each other.
They're just like operating in a different world.
you're a Picasso fan and I like Dali and they're both great and we don't need to
And that's what you've created instead of sort of like,
10,000 things that sort of look similar and we're just kind of competing over
tiny nuances that maybe aren't really that different.
appreciate that you guys are helping elevate other artists.
you might've been in that weird purgatory where you don't hear anything while
you're coming up as a speaker.
the twilight zone for like five minutes trying to work through,
I felt like Rick DeSantis just trying to climb through a,
we've got about a hundred thousand less people in here,
the quality of the people in here are much higher.
Are you going to sit on it?
I just came back from a fresh haircut.
I don't think Gino's up on the speaker yet.
I don't think Gino was up on the stage.
whatever the Twitter's version of that is.
I think if you want to hop down,
Usually that will reset it.
or you could just close the app on your phone.
Just got my nails manicured.
the first thing I did board,
I went ahead and I opted in for all of it.
Cause I just can't fucking,
lower the volume on your phone.
I sold an Epi pen or an Epi pen and Opepin because I was trying to get more
I was trying to get more.
Opepin will not help you.
if you were having an allergic reaction,
Opepin will not save your life.
Please do not take any medical advisors.
So I fucked up and I fat fingered a fucking four,
Opepin at the floor because I was trying to get liquid for the auction.
I've been grieving with this loss for a couple of days now.
So I went and bought a couple other,
What do you even call them?
I bought a couple of 40 banders and,
I opted in for all of it.
I really want a full circle though.
Something about full circle just looks,
Did you do a chef's kiss?
Is that what that sound was?
You're looking at the first left facing Opep in there with the one of one on
That's the first left facing.
the pupils are on the left.
that's an ultra rare Pepe.
I have a soft spot for the,
because of the grid in the background and it,
and it just making me have Tetris vibes,
and seeing that sort of dynamic of shapes.
am I wanting now to build a game,
clone that looks like Opep in,
It seems like it'd be fun.
I was going to buy a couple more.
I was going to buy a couple more and I got back and they just,
So I'm going to just rock with these five for now,
but did you guys all opt in?
there's a lot of questions being asked,
it's a provably random drawing.
So it doesn't matter how early you are.
You have all weekend basically to,
You have two days and 22 hours left.
the team is being very generous and giving everyone time.
even though they get peppered with when,
and no time at all to do anything,
give us lots of time to make decisions.
make sure that the collection goes live is far exceeded,
so it's definitely happening.
And now it's just a matter of,
didn't work out for you before,
I'm sliding in Jaleel's DMs.
I'm sliding in Jack's DMs.
I'm going to need a full audit.
I'm just going to totally ambush the stage.
cause I'm just coming in like a fireball.
I had so much fun doing that auction yesterday.
I know this is in a pepin space,
but I had so much fun doing that auction yesterday.
and I want to congratulate you board on just a fucking alpha grail.
We totally forgot to mention that.
Let's also give some hearts for me who won one.
Let's give a heart for me.
And then let's go ahead and give a big thumbs down for Burrs here who,
bid me up with one second left.
Everyone give Burrs a big thumbs down.
you're going to be fireballing right into the secondary market.
you did mention that the alpha auction and that was something that I kind of
wanted to bring up to board because I know you've gone super heavy.
pep in and not so much checks,
but you went ahead and grab like this ultra grail,
mentioning something about possibly some ideas you had for the physical of
Is that too premature to kind of touch on right now?
Or do you want to give us any thoughts about that piece?
I'm glad I just found out that I,
I gave my kid my phone just to play with for a few hours yesterday.
And I guess they must've pressed the buttons.
one of the alpha element checks.
it is actually my only check,
is something that's really interesting to me.
the physical prints that were coming with,
it was really exciting to me to grab one and,
and wanted to support the team as well.
just kind of wanted to send a message and a signal and I'll let people interpret it however they want to.
But in terms of the physical piece,
and this is not set in stone,
but I'd really love for it to be,
I live in Southern California,
so I'd be very curious if there were like a gallery or a museum,
if they wanted to display,
if they had room to display the fire alpha elements check,
I'd love to lend it to them so that,
a lot of people could see it in person.
And perhaps that's something that we'll,
but it doesn't need to be stuck in my house.
So I definitely would love for anyone to be able to,
Jack and I talked about this,
a couple of days ago to allow,
I think once one such interesting prospect of NFTs and digital art that is paired to physical or digital provenances that is paired to physical art.
Is it being displayed for the public and museums and such?
we reserved quite a few tokens,
and prints for the archive,
we definitely are considering the idea of allowing,
holders or owners of these to sort of opt in to submitting them to,
the archive or a gallery as well,
rather than claiming them as of now.
and then we'll try to with you holders with,
to try and get these into,
into nice places for the public to interact with.
and then sort of in that context,
make the digital provenance of it,
So of course it would say owned by board.eth,
that sort of brings it full circle,
The physical and the digital and the,
the amazing prospect of digital provenance appeared with like physical,
to very experienced people in the space.
five to nine team tweeted that he,
lost a bunch of his NFTs while trying to opt into a pep.
I haven't actually found out which,
which scammer site he was using.
obviously there's already stuff out there,
which is a very upsetting and sad,
to one note for everybody trying to opt in to,
this little tweet that I pinned up in the,
you can see a screenshot of what the message would look like.
our signature is not a transaction request.
it doesn't have anything to do with ETH or gas costs or anything like that.
If you see anything like that,
the message is a clear text.
I want to submit my OPEP in for possible artwork reveal in the following set.
it says the name of the set and the OPEP and IDs that you're submitting.
And if it's anything other than that scheme,
then it's most definitely a scam.
and then also as a second note,
we do support delegate cash.
So if you have your NFTs in one wallet through delegate cash,
approve another wallet to be able to sign on the half of,
of your vault that holds the NFTs.
And you can use that on our side as well.
pepin.art and just go straight there.
Don't click anything is my policy ever.
this also kind of speaks to why we,
why discord is not necessarily a good thing for this community,
thanks to Jaleel for that and for implementing delegate cash.
is if the trajectory of Opep and,
continues in this direction,
then unfortunately there will be more people who pop up who,
who are scamming and trying to,
the other thing I was going to say is there are a couple of fake Twitter
handles out there that are pretending to be Opep and AI.
I try to report them like every day and anyone who's listening to this
report those accounts because when you do it in mass,
and until I have a direct ear to,
nothing I can do to get these killed.
Just try to squash these things.
Cause it ruins the experience for people in a,
in a really significant way.
so that was the Debbie Downer report,
I figured I'd wrap this up,
Cause we've been going for almost 90 minutes,
if you have removed the tire,
things that you want to reflect on after a pretty insane week before we
I got a price update for you.
Tell me it's under one 50.
they were able to patch it.
I'll get it replaced tomorrow,
mad few days specifically,
then back for these elements auctions.
And then we were kind of,
debating whether or not to,
I think we mentioned a couple of days ago that we were going to do three and
or it's been kind of dropped in a few conversations that once we had this
we would get back to the drop schedule and it just felt like,
proximity to those auctions closing and that project,
being complete in some ways,
conscious decision to capture a moment in time.
and obviously including bats as the third set kind of,
and three have very significant,
the formation of the project in the first place.
Like with number one being basically that iterative process,
us landing on that silhouette by,
going back and forth on Twitter for months.
The second being this kind of rabbit hole that a lot of us fell down for the
last couple of months of,
the commodification of image making,
all of those themes that are like hovering around everybody's head.
a very interesting when juxtaposed with digital ownership,
all of these themes that we've been talking about since,
And then the third set being bats,
which was obviously a massive inspiration for the initial image that kicked off the project.
originally called punk scapes now called scapes.
It was a combination of bats and Jalil's work obviously have,
come together to create that initial image.
And then the fourth set consensus was very much a collaboration between Jalil and I on the artwork front.
And all of that texture you see and the translation of the physical pieces in elements to digital,
those same techniques are used in,
the consensus set number four.
So trying to link all of these chapters together,
they can obviously all exist by themselves,
but the sequence and the order and the days on which they're released,
Jalil is massively responsible for,
pulling ridiculously long days and nights and getting this stuff together.
what do you think it would take to get set three and four?
maybe we'll do it tomorrow.
just incredible turnaround time on implementing these,
even the elements auction,
another shout out for that on the technical side,
like shipping features in the middle of deployment based on,
what we were seeing and how people were interacting with it and taking real
time feedback and literally writing code and pushing it out five minutes
massive hats off to Jalil,
everybody who was involved in the,
bringing the element stuff to life.
feels great to be thinking about set five.
I think he can do better than any machine can,
we've got another year left at least before the takeover.
So thank you Jalil for being on the front lines.
any final thoughts from you Jalil,
I'm not good at receiving all this love.
it means the world to be able to work with Jack on all of this.
I enjoy the process very much.
for being on stage today,
This ended up being way bigger than we predicted.
I think a lot of us now want to go and,
and figure out what the move is.
thank you everybody for joining this space.
Hopefully we can do more of them in the future.
but this has been an extremely exciting week.
I'm honored to be a holder.
I'm honored to be a community member and,
hope you guys have a great weekend.
you picked up the Opepin you want.
thank you for being such an incredible steward of this,
We're incredibly lucky to have you.
thanks for having me and for doing this stuff and always here to help if I can.
everybody have a great weekend.
No man sitting in the east wing at the west wing of this mansion.
Every word that I see is coming straight from the heart.
if you're trying to lay in peace on,
I'ma leave the door open.
I'ma leave the door open.
I'ma leave the door open,
I'ma leave the door open.