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Partner Spotlight: Matchain
Recorded: April 17, 2025 Duration: 1:33:21Space Recording
Short Summary
MattChain is set to revolutionize the blockchain landscape with its innovative partnership with PSG, aiming to onboard 550 million fans while launching its MAT token to foster community ownership and engagement.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Music Thank you. Music Thank you. Music all right gmgm everyone i'm just doing a real quick mic check.
Patrick, Thomas?
Hi, GMGM.
Hello, hello.
Oh, hello.
Hi, hi, hi there.
Okay, loud and clear.
Mic check done.
And it looks like we've got the heavyweights over here.
So we've got Patrick today and Thomas.
And, oh, I see Voltron as well.
Hi there. Yeah, so I'm Voltron as well. Hi there.
Yeah so I'm just going to kick it off now and super excited today.
Thanks everyone for joining. Let's go.
So hi everyone and welcome again to another episode of the Anchor Partner Spotlight where we unpack big ideas in blockchain, Web3, and
of course, the future of its infrastructure, which is what we do.
And I'm your host, Sergio, and today we are diving into a conversation that touches on
two of the most exciting forces shaping our digital future.
So one is decentralized identity, and the other one is data sovereignty.
Before we get started, let me just give you a tiny review and T.O.D.R. about Anchor.
You probably know Anchor is an all-in-one Web3 developer hub that provides a full suite
of tools to build any Web3 apps and power them with high-performance connections
to approximately soon-to-be 80-plus blockchains.
We are joined by really special guests today from MattChain, the decentralized and scalable
AI chain.
MattChain is doing some groundbreaking work by combining blockchain and AI to give users full control
over their digital identity and data, while also making that technology scalable and accessible
for mainstream adoption. We will learn a lot today with our guests. And before we get into
the discussion, let's bring our guests in. we've got patrick's and thomas today with us
it's a pleasure to have you both here welcome to the show thank you for joining and you know for
making the time to join um could you please introduce yourself to our listeners and tell
us a bit about your role at matching sure i can start thank you so much sergio for for the intro and for the warm welcome
also thank you so much for the heavy weight i think you figure out that i start a diet lately
my background of olympic gymnast i never go to the gym i just to do crypto against a lot of
weights i'm definitely a heavyweight right now but i I'm going to work on that. I'm the CEO of my chain, guys. It's a pleasure to be here.
Like I was already mentioning, I've been in the space for almost nine years. I started as an
angel investor supporting projects on marketing network connections, anything that the project
and the founders wouldn't need. I co-founded my VC, fast-forwarded, invested over 250 projects.
I saw and read and heard over 5,000 pitches.
And at some point, very lucky, I timed well the peak of the last bull run,
and I decided to exit my VC, my investments.
I was already overexposed.
And I found out that I need to build something different
because I saw a bunch of my investments and projects
that were so many good ideas, so many great founders,
but it never worked because of the timing, it was bad,
because there was no users to use their products and their ideas.
So I said, okay, I want to take action, build something different.
So I got together with the smartest people I said, okay, I want to take action, build something different. So I got together with the smartest people I know, 100% smarter than me, like Thomas.
And I built my super Avenger scene to build MattChain, and here we are.
Then I sent to Thomas.
Lovely, thank you.
Hi, Thomas Voyevoda.
I'm responsible for strategy at Mattrain i came into the industry uh
thanks to sergey at train link he brought me in to help uh trainling grow and i helped them grow
from you know like 60 customers to well over 1 000 um then i went to help to launch scroll
to help to launch scroll um i was responsible for growth bed uh helping sandy launch scroll
and after that i moved to dubai uh because uh binance bnb chain wanted me in dubai i was
responsible for being the chain there um and then i met patrick's at an event and then i decided
that this was the best thing to build and then hopefully we
will convince you um in this ama that that matching is the best thing in crypto going on right now
oh thank you thomas it sounds like a how i met your co-founder kind of story right
yes it does we should make a short movie of that
yeah definitely um if you can't let me do you know the the introductions and then read the scripts i would love to do that um and yeah patrick's uh just you know building on what you shared
um it looks like your portfolio you know also grew in weight. Unfortunately, it seems to be a kind of a secondary effect in crypto.
I think I also gained, I was doing some maths the other day in seven years.
I've been in crypto.
I think I gained 2% per year.
Now I'm 15 to 20% up.
Unfortunately, not my bags uh just my belly
um but yeah started to do some some sports lately um well yeah i feel you too let me know like i'm
sure have less hair as well right oh yeah a little bit little bit. Hopefully it stops at some point. And the white hairs, you know, they turn back black, but it doesn't look like so. What a sad story. But well, let's start with Patrick and Thomas, which I think, you know, with their incredible background today, we are going to learn a lot from them
let's start by zooming out a little bit and looking at the bigger picture right decentralized
identity has been one of the most talked about elements of web3 lately it's not new it comes
from a couple of years ago if i remember correctly I read about it 20 maybe 2021 2022 but as
users become more aware of their digital footprints what's especially
interesting about my chain is of course also how it's blending blockchain with
AI to protect and empower users in a practical scalable way and please let me
know if at any
point you know I say something that's incorrect because this is new to me as
well so I'm here to learn so my first question for both of you and feel free
to Patrick's Thomas to well one of you maybe you can take it or you both you
know chime in you're more than welcome to do so.
Could you share the vision behind Matching?
So what's motivating you, right?
And what's the bigger mission that drives the platform's focus on decentralized identity and data sovereignty?
So, yeah, in short, what's your vision and your mission?
Thank you
No problem. Let's go. I can start and Thomas will talk about the value of the users when I finish
I will try to be not so so long but also give me some good high level as we ask it to zoom out
so on the zoom out level I
understand that, basically I understood during this path
since I started in crypto nine years ago
and all investments that I did and founders that I met
and understanding more about communities.
I understood that if you're really claiming
that blockchain is the future of the internet,
that Web2 is the evolution of Web2,
we need to be evolving and fixing something.
So first, in order to evolve and fix something,
we need to have something to fix,
which right now we are very small numbers on Web3.
It's growing fast.
Reputation right now, 2025, it's much better, etc.
But back in the days and still now,
the user base is very small.
So if you think that Web3 is the future, we need to start to build the layers
that create the ground of Web2.
So that's simply how I started to think about
the next project that I wanted to build, which is matching.
So first, if Web3 is the evolution of Web2,
we need to create Web2 inside Web3.
So what Web2 has?
Web2 has three important
points user traffic like the amount of users of the internet every single phone it's insane right
we cannot compare and all of that started socials myspace facebook then e-commerce and then gaming
that was the first funnels of projects that onboarding big amount of user traffic inside
web2 then the second most important thing is the business model the main way that we are not using first funnels of projects that onboarding big amount of user traffic inside Web2.
Then the second most important thing is the business model,
the main way that we are not using properly in crypto in Web3 of the Web2.
The business model is data analytics, data behavior, data.
The top five companies, six companies, S&P 500, they're all about data.
Regardless of the excuse of products that they build on their ecosystem,
like Alphabet, they have Maps, YouTube, Gmail, Google Meeting, whatever it is, just to understand our behaviors. So we have Alphabet,
Meta, Amazon, all of those companies getting our data, bragging about the amount of data,
but that's where it starts the first problem of the web tool. The data and the amount of users
inside the hands of the few companies got too big, too concentrated.
And that's the first problem because Patrick, Sergio, Thomas, we are all inside Alphabet somehow.
We are all inside Meta, Apple, Amazon.
But what I do inside Amazon is not what I do inside Alphabet.
What I do inside Meta is not what I do inside Apple.
So they really know my behavior and they are monetizing on top of it. Amazon is not what I do inside Alphabet. What I do inside Meta is not what I do inside Apple.
So they really know my behavior and they are monetizing on top of it.
They don't because I'm duplicated.
I'm like, if you combine all those companies' data,
we have five, six times the world population because the same me is the same you.
Hence, this is the first problem that you have from Web2.
So let's go back now.
If you want to build Web2 decently, we need to achieve the masses, the user traffic.
That's our first goal on my chain, my first vision.
Second is inside my chain, which I wanted them to store the private assets, achievements, data.
I needed them to become unique.
So we have a main product, which is called Match ID.
It's a DID, it's a single identity, which you said very well, Sergio, is like not a new topic.
I'm not reinventing the wheel. We have other projects that did over there, but the mindset and
the way to do it matters. So for example, MySpace was not the biggest social media that onboard
people. They started, they proved the concept, but Facebook is the one that got it right.
So my point is, I don't need to have all the most invasive methods and scanning things to make people unique.
Match ID, I can bind all other DIDs inside my platform.
I can bind all Web2 logins.
I can bind all wallets.
That's when we
connect what you mentioned, blockchain and AI. So in order for us to evolve from
the internet, I don't want to trust anymore on alphabet or meta. So I can use
blockchain which is trustless, there's no middleman. And I'm going to use AI, not
Patrick's or the management team to decide which are the user value. So AI, we have an AI user profiling tool inside the match ID, which reads what you do.
Off-chain on your socials and whatever you decided to buy voluntarily and all your wallets.
And it starts to show in a map, in your dashboard, your digital footprint.
What you do on the internet on and off-chain. Now you also can see what is your value as a fan,
what is your value, your data score as a gamer,
and et cetera, and so on.
So that's the path and the vision,
what we're looking for on Medchain,
to give visibility, clarity, control of the users
of your identity in the digital space, web 2 and web 3.
And once you have control, you can see how much you do your worth
and decide if you share, if you consent or not.
So I want users to have this ability to opt in or opt out
on their profile, on their behaviors.
Because what is clear for all of us here, I'll let Thomas take after this,
we are not living out of the internet, regardless
of blockchain or not.
So we're all going to live in the world, unless there's an apocalypse coming, we're
going to live in a world that there's internet regardless.
So we have two options.
Are we going to accept cookies forever, right?
And keep feeding those companies to sell our data and charge me subscriptions to steal
feeding those companies to sell our data and charge me
subscriptions to steal from me twice.
from me twice?
Or I want to have a second option, right?
Which at least I can read my map, I can read my digital footprint,
and I can make some money.
And if I'm going to accept cookies anyways,
I rather consent my data at all angles anyway,
because I'm going to get paid for that.
So that's where it starts our strategy with global brands
and the value of every single user
the ARPU
which I want Thomas to complement our vision
Thank you so much Patrick
for the insights
and Thomas before you take over
I just wanted to provide a little bit
of context and as a reminder
for our listeners
Alphabet is a multinational technology company
conglomerate and the company that holds there's a holding company for Google just you know so when
when Patrick talks about Alphabet just for you to know that one of their the main subsidiaries I
don't know if this is the right right term right now but um yeah they
they own google well no they don't own it like 100 they are google but yeah they're the company
behind yeah yeah thomas uh yeah thank you and sorry for interrupting no no that was that was
great i think i think we'll you know we'll continue uh. You know, Patrick spoke about what we are building.
You know, what I'm passionate about
is who we are building it for, right?
So, and comparisons, right?
So WorldCoin has now onboarded
approximately 12 million users.
I think there is an article from Cointelegraph
from just a few months ago
where they are celebrating 10 million users of WorldCoin.
On MudChain, we have almost 30 million users.
In our MudChub, we have 12 million users.
And we are an exclusive digital ID partner
for Paris Saint-Germain,
and we are onboarding their 550 million fans.
Once we complete that, we will be,
somewhere to do the math, 50 times larger than WorldCoin.
And we are able to do that because our product is simpler.
And that's what patrick's covered so in order
to deliver this this vision of data ownership data sovereignty um we need billions of users not not
just hundreds or tens of millions we need billions of users and that is what we are focused on thank you Thomas and yeah that sounds excited when you said 30 million um I was you know I
was shocked I was like did I heard correctly yes yes almost I think the number is like 27.9 so we
are getting closely to 30 million wallets um you can always verify the numbers go to dub radar look you know sort chains
by um user active wallets uaw and you'll see matt train in the top one two spots for layer twos
top three four spots for four layer ones um you know we are right there on top next to solana
ones you know we are right there on top next to Solana often you know bidding
base yeah just like I just saw this five minutes ago we are current number one
layer two in the world on active wallets users unique wallets number one layer
two in the world and number three of all blockchains for Solana and EARNAS right now on activity.
Wow. Well, first of all, congratulations for that team.
That's definitely a huge achievement.
And also, especially having in mind that, well, there's a lot of activity in Solana
that's driven by the products that we all know what they're about, right?
And yeah, so it's different.
And then, well, of course, it's fascinating how AI doesn't just make things smarter,
but it sounds like that in your case, it makes them more human-centric, right?
human-centric, right, which is all that AI should be about in theory.
Which is all that AI should be about in theory.
Patrick mentioned that apocalypses, hopefully there's no AI, you know, rebellion.
And yeah, that feels like a shift that we really need in this next era of the internet,
right, as Patrick mentioned.
And from a technology angle, um matching so what innovations are you
bringing to the space i think you already touched a bit on it and um well maybe specifically you
know how does ai complement uh blockchain patrick's i think you mentioned um you know it does this
mapping right that you said um so with that, how it enhances data control,
security, and usability.
And then, you know, next topic,
I would like to,
it's going to be the next question,
but maybe just get ready for this one.
I'm really also excited to talk about PSG.
I'm kind of a football fan or soccer
for our American friends. And and yeah we definitely will talk
about that one yeah i i think we want to jump to the psg really quickly but in terms of innovations
there are a couple um we are focused in our since we are onboarding billions of users and we really
are the user experience needs to be much better than it currently is in Web3.
So one of our innovation is around user experience.
Our Match Hub, our Match ID products are meant to be used by people
who are used to using their phone, Web2, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
So one of our innovations is around user experience.
The other one is how we validate, how we do proof of humanity.
Unlike WorldCoin, we don't scan your iris.
We use a simplified method of verifying a proof of humanity,
which allows us to onboard users extremely quickly.
And that's why we will grow to these numbers and overtake WorldCoin very, very quickly.
Those are the two innovations that I would like to highlight.
I don't know if you want to add anything, Patrick, before we move to PSG.
Sure. Still muted, by the way, Patrick.
Yeah, yeah. You know, when you listen to your phone blocks and then you have to unblock.
Yeah.
That's it.
So, yes, Thomas is absolutely right.
Like I said, based on everything what I saw in research and learned,
because we are learning constantly every day, I'm learning now,
and I've been learning from you guys from Anchor for the past year a lot,
is a constant process. And what I learned from this process is,
honestly, with all respect to every single other
massive quantum physics guys,
nobody's coming for the technology.
You're coming for the experience.
I just want to make sure that my app works.
I want to make sure that I make money.
I want to make sure that my experience is awesome.
When I download WhatsApp,
I don't check if it's Python and say,
hey, hey, I'm not going to use WhatsApp because
it's built on Python and I'm a Java Maxi.
Nobody cared for this.
So based on that,
we have great innovations
and technology, but our most innovations is
in the approach, is in the solution.
Because I trust
the best of security and innovation on the best people
in the world to do this. I don't have to reinvent the wheel. So I have those guys that work very
close to us. I hope you heard about it. It's called Anchor. They support us big time to do a lot of
things on my chain and they are the best one in the industry to do this and i can focus on what we're good at to focus on ux and experiences
so like one of the strategies that you have uh is this first our name matching is not about
match is not about sports or football we have the coincidence to be part of ppsg and then i'm going
to explain why but match is because we are this delete the the fire, the match, you know, just to start to give you the
basic infrastructure so you can create and build whatever you want. So when you say they're going
to be the biggest AI chain in the world, it's for the following reason. Because AI needs data.
Data comes from users. We're going to have the biggest user base generating massive data from
the applications that are connected and attached to us, especially inside the Mesh ID.
So you can have the best AI models, AI agents, companies that will come, pay the users to consent for their data, which they are doing anyway for big companies, but now don't pay the companies.
Pay every single person that owns the data, right?
So we, on the innovation part, are going to be very big in AI, but I don't need to have the biggest AI tool.
My only AI tool that I'm interested in right now on matching is the AI profiling tool to give you a fair value about your digital footprint and etc.
The rest, we are partnering with the best people on security, I see you unified that I'm very fan.
I'm talking to them recently.
I'm going to meet them here in Portugal.
I want them on board with us inside Match ID.
Anchor, we have good plans about new products
and more things that we're going to do.
So that's on the technological parts
that you're talking about.
We are focused now on building easy experiences
so people can come for something that
they already like they love and by the way there's blockchain behind now you have a wallet that's it
sounds great um thomas anything you would like to add on top of what patrick has shared
no i think let's let's talk about the exciting great yeah definitely let's let's move on you know i'm excited as well um but yeah patrick's uh spot on
and so real you know like um loud and clear that's all i had to say um and now well let's
talk about the real world use cases the exciting stuff, as Thomas was saying, because what's most exciting is how these ideas are already being put into action.
And one partnership that really caught attention, and I think I can talk for everyone in this case, was your collaboration with PSG, with Paris and German.
Can you tell us more about how Badchain powers their loyalty solutions?
Sure.
Part of this commitment to onboard users, so users can generate data,
we need to find the funnel.
So we started at first, not with PSG,
we started at the same path that the internet started with socials.
So I know it's part of the questions, but I'm going to already anticipate it.
So we had a path between a social media, like WeChat that we built, which amassed a million of users,
after e-commerce platform, and then gaming.
That was the funnel that gave us the first million users. But then I crossed the path with PSG, the one like so much as much as me or maybe probably less because i like a lot so psg they have a innovative
like a crazy vision and appetite to be the first in things so they want to be the first to do many
things because they are this innovative spirit of a billion dollar company and they came
to us and said like we have a goal to put everything on chain not just the fans but every single asset
that you have on chain but the first step is i want to understand better my fans my user base
because you as a fan sergio you are you work for anchor as well. You travel, you love, you eat, right?
We are entrepreneurs.
The same thing.
So fans, football fans, is not only about football.
It's humans.
They are people.
So they have money.
They don't have money.
They have vision, aspirations.
Well, all what you have is a passion in common, which is football or is PSG or whatever it is.
Something that unites us.
So if that's something that unites us
that I like on my free time to do it,
that I'm passionate about it,
sees me, recognize my value,
recognize my support,
that every single post on Instagram,
that every single game,
or every single ticket that I buy,
they can give me any love back,
that would be awesome, right?
I would do anything for this brand.
So that's our main strategy, and that's
why we came to PSG. Because
we need to, in order to onboard people
on blockchain, we need to find some common
passion, some common love,
some common ground. Like I said,
you're not going to come for the technology,
you're going to come for the experience.
So PSG told me,
I want to onboard 550 million fans on board.
And I said, fantastic, let's do it.
But it's not one solution, it's not one NFT drop
that's going to bring you 10 million or 5 million or 500 million.
If you are really committed to that,
we need to create many solutions, probably 100 per year.
And those 100 per year, the first are going to maybe fail,
the second one not going to pick it up,
the third one is going to bring 1 million the third one going to bring one million fantastic we scale the solution ip replicates to other partners so we build we did a joint venture which is never done before only
exchanges did partnership with football clubs at this level we are the first to start up even
before launch our token to do this we did a joint PSG, and we co-founded the Joint Innovation Studio.
So we're going to co-create, already doing a field,
I know you're going to mention,
innovations together between matching PSG directly,
and also, I don't have to reinvent the wheel.
I can empower every single other project to come
and use your solution to help me to onboard those fans.
It don't have to be fan engagement solution.
It can be an Oracle, can be an infrastructure,
can be AI, can be anything that contributes
to the process of onboarding users.
So we test.
So look at how we hack the system.
We're going to use a global brand with 500 million fans
to test other projects.
And if it worked launch a
matching so the future of the ecosystem for matching it's bright and this model
you're gonna replicate in many more brands I have between us first time
saying here at least two or more three or three G's to announce to other global
brands very soon and And I live there.
You live it where, you know, in the interesting part.
Yeah, but thank you, Patrick,
and thank you for dropping that bomb.
You heard it first at Anchor Partner Spotlight.
Thomas?
Maybe he blocked his phone.
He's probably putting the password now.
No, no, I'm here.
I mean, I think Patrick's covered PSG quite well.
It's for users as well for developers, right?
Through the Join Innovation Studio, we can onboard developers and bring them to the half a billion users, right?
So I remember speaking to one of the developers a few weeks ago about onboarding to MAD chain.
And typically developers in this space now ask for grants, right?
If they onboard to a chain.
And I asked this very simple question.
It's like, well, what are you going to do with the $100,000 grant?
It's like, well, I will use it for marketing to get users into my gambling application,
into my sports betting application.
Like, great.
Well, you know, what's your cost of user acquisition?
And his cost was about a dollar, right?
So for $100,000, he was going to get 100,000 users.
I'm like, well, what if I fix this for you and I'll just bring you users?
So we brought 12 million users to them, right?
This is what we can do, you know where when we have users we can skip the step where
the project you know spends massive marketing budget on acquiring users we can just bring them
the users and that's what joint innovation studio is for if you would like to launch a build a
product that engages with half a billion psg fans come talk to us because
we will give you that access yeah thank you thomas if you allow me just a quick compliment
for sure it's very important to say that uh that's the mentality and the mindset that I started this since the beginning and we've been luckily to achieve this so far. I'm not
here because when we talk about those numbers they are very exciting and also
scary right? Like when you mentioned yourself Sergio when you heard like
did I hear right? Yes, it is right and they are not from web3 so my point here i'm not i didn't came
to the industry to steal users from solana or or cardano or other blockchains i want to partner
with them i want to bring users i want to be the field the match to bring users for their solutions
because maybe their solution it's better for something else but they need new users because
if i come here just to twitter and the same followers that follow the other chains,
they are following me.
So I need a new user.
So like 90%, 95% of our user base
come from Web2.
They barely know that most of the applications
now that they're using has blockchain behind.
We are providing the gas fees.
We are focused on the experiences.
So that's the most important part.
And Thomas nailed when he spoke about developers.
I had many questions.
What grant are you giving to developers right now?
I said, I'm extremely excited
and I want a bunch of developers building projects on my chain.
But I don't want you building and leaving.
I want you building and have a successful project
and your solution that you're going to build new users.
So I'm not going to focus on that right now.
I'm going to focus on building the user base
so you can come and never leave
and build many solutions.
So we are trying to do a little bit
everything that we do, we try differently
out of the box than was tried before.
Of course.
Yeah.
I love your philosophy, Patrick.
By the way, just, you know, I just wanted to share some honest thoughts.
And I love how you are repeating, right, all the time that you are not looking to reinvent the wheel.
You're just looking to make it run.
Right.
And well, that last part was added by me,
but I think that's a conclusion, right, that I got from you.
And, yeah, that's great, you know.
That's a philosophy.
And, well, I also had no idea that a big, well,
a huge part of your users were actually from web, too, you know,
that bringing new people in without them noticing. That's actually, you know, the, definitely the way to go, right?
I saw a tweet from Arsalan, or head of sales, and who's leading Neura, a layer one that is
being powered, going to be powered by Anchor. I don't remember exactly right now the tweet, but it pretty much said, well, if my
grandma finds it too complicated, then you lose. And I think that's pretty much it. That's the
philosophy we should follow. Well, and follow up on the PSG collaboration, and I'm just going to
on the PSG collaboration and I'm just going to like be extra careful with this one when when I
spoke to what with your team and we were preparing this session we talked about some some follow-up
areas that were potentially you know going to be live already by the time that we that we did this partner spotlight um there are some
card campaigns you know like uh some exclusive stuff um are we ready to talk about this or
unfortunately it's not yet uh live no no no this is uh one of the like actually right now
if you go to PSG listeners,
I think you can tap into other search on Twitter, go to PSG
page right now. Right now,
three minutes or five minutes ago, was just a
post of PSG that they say was
open with a very exciting and
motivational video
saying, PSG saying right now
that we are doing the most
exclusive drop ever done on
the football for
fans not on blockchain they just chose blockchain to do this so we are trying to bring with psg
first things never done before money can't buy experience exclusive on blockchain powered by
matching so the the kind of cooperation that you just mentioned we are launching a silver
card which is for very high exclusive passionate fans of psg they're going to have forever benefits
which include merch that the players are playing right now from the jordan air jordan collection
which is not for sale uh more also experiences for example side pitch the tunnel experience with the players
like kick off bought the ball before the match starts like crazy things that you cannot do
anywhere unless you are silver card member and that experience is very interesting because we're
gonna the silver card holders gonna be unlocking monthly mystery boxes.
So every month,
PSG is going to put mystery boxes together
on wearable,
and those mystery boxes
are going to have a random package
for the partners and sponsors of PSG.
I can create a random package right now
just as an example.
So let's say that one mystery box
is going to have a bunch of PSG fan tokens,
plus a trip in the first class by Qatar Airways,
which is a sponsor, plus merch from Dior exclusive,
and stay in the best hotel in Doha from Aqua Hotels.
So PSG are able now to blend in the partners
and give the benefits to the fans.
So this is a project that is under test, never done before,
and you're going to push until we get it done,
and you're going to make different layers as well in the future.
So that's the point that I said.
If we're committed to try things, I want to see you realizing.
I want to see you executing.
I want to see you executing.
And PSG is the best.
And PSG is the best.
Wow.
What could happen to us?
And they're really putting the mouth,
the word where the mouth is.
I don't know how to say this.
English, not my first language.
Yeah, I know.
A hundred percent.
Yeah, yeah.
We understood.
I think everyone understood.
And I've just shared this announcement you mentioned.
So it's pinned now here in the spotlight session.
Yeah, I didn't see this last one.
I missed the one that was pinned.
I ignore it for whatever reason.
Yeah, I was introduced to the silver card campaign
and was told a little bit was last week,
if I remember correctly.
I just got to know a little bit, you know,
and that sounded super exciting.
So yeah, I wanted to bring it up to the the session so thank you patrick for um no problem you know for sharing more insights with us
on this civil car campaign and uh well if you happen to have i i get a psg to make the announcement
during our ama you know okay i see i see yeah that's super nice. Yeah, I have just added it in here and the video looks great
Fortunately, I don't seem able to play it for everyone. But yeah, it's a 42 seconds
Video there's it's on YouTube. It's also on the post. So yeah, feel free to you know, check it out and
Patrick's I was saying if you happen to have a spare silver card somewhere, you know
feel free to send it my way
I will receive it, you know, super
happily
and yeah, this kind of
exclusive experiences, right
especially with such a globally
recognized club like PSG
really shows what's possible when
Web3Tech is brought into
everyday fan engagement and yeah yeah it sounds super exciting
So continuing on these real-world cases another area I would love to hear more about is
Always how my chain is helping web2 businesses
So at the time I saw I think a case study or maybe a blog entry
somewhere uh which was with digibuy um so how do you integrate blockchain into their operations
and well if there are other businesses right looking to get started um what does that
onboarding journey look like um i can just start and thomas just go now uh digibuy got to revamp it to
sidari so just to be sure that we tag and say the right name like if anyone from my team in
the in the comments just uh tag sidari over here uh sidari just to be a quick that he give a quick
brief um it's a real e-commerce platform
existing in the APAC region
with real inventory,
real products
that need to be revamped.
The prime membership model, right?
And many things,
the blockchain as a solution
for a problem that they had
was applicable.
So we got together,
we understood their problem,
we brought blockchain, but the good part is
they already had 50 million registered users
on the e-commerce platform,
and 1.5 million daily active users,
which they are being onboarded gradually
with into blockchain to our product.
So I let Thomas take from here.
Yeah, I think it makes sense to everyone when you think, you know, the first thing that you do when you buy from, I think most people are familiar with Amazon, right?
You need to log in.
So a match ID integration in a platform like this is a no-brainer.
But then every e-commerce company, every business needs data, needs to understand more about their customers.
But not, of course, they understand what their customers are buying on their platform.
Amazon knows what you do on Amazon.
SIDARI knows what you do on SIDARI.
But what they would love to know is what you do outside of the platform,
what you do with PSG, what you do somewhere else.
And that is where Match ID comes in, helps them access these other parts of data.
For us, it was, you know, great user acquisition play.
And that's how we are growing, right?
We don't grow one by one user.
We are growing 10, 5, 15 million users with each of these partnerships
and, yeah, with each of these enterprise partnerships.
But think of Amazon Prime siddharic prime being
powered by match id yeah that sounds interesting um following your your analogy your example
um did i understand correctly for example um let's say you know i am this amazon user right and right now i'm i'm logged in with
the match id um typically they would have to assume right if i buy a let's say fc barcelona
or real madrid or jersey on their platform they would assume like oh this guy is a fan of this
club or that club but maybe i'm just buying it for my friend or as a gift or whatever right
but with match id um they would know that hey actually this guy is a psg fan as the match id
you know provides uh this data yes but you know let's actually jump in maybe oversimplify yeah
let's jump in a little into little details of match id so on one side
match id is used to connect to different uh logins different data sources gmail twitter
amazon perhaps netflix perhaps right uh as well it consolidates your wallets, Bitcoin, Solana, EVM, Ethereum, Base, Smart Chain, BNB Chain wallet.
As well, it connects to centralized exchanges, Binance, KuCoin, OKEx, Coinbase, right?
Now, Sidari, you will have an option to share some of that data with Sidari.
And Sidari may care very much about what you are doing on Netflix or on Amazon.
And it's up to you to decide if you're willing to share the data.
And of course, if you decide to share it, you will be paid for it.
Right?
So vendors like SIDARI will give offers to people like you, say, hey, share your data
with me.
Give you an example, car insurance, life insurance, or, you know, loan for a home.
If you apply for a loan for a home, you probably want to share with the bank your exchange information,
your external wallets, and your banking information.
Because, you know, in your bank, you might have $1,000, but you were mining Bitcoin in 2011 and you have, you know, 180 Bitcoins sitting in a wallet.
And they should probably approve you for a home without any problems because you can just pay for it cash if you choose to.
Today, banks don't have that access, right?
They don't understand what you are doing outside of a bank.
Outside of a bank.
We will bring that together through much ID.
We will bring that together through much ID.
A lot of what I've just described here.
Is future.
But today if you go to much ID.
Of course.
You can connect your centralized exchanges.
You can connect your wallets.
You can connect your social media accounts.
And then you will have the option to opt in.
And be paid for sharing that data.
So as you make money of your data we as a marketplace
keep a portion of that and that's how much id makes money it's it's it's revenue per user but
it's a small portion of what you make and that's why we are also bringing you know value to you
versus google monetizing your data you get to monetize it.
Of course.
Yeah, that's fair.
And, you know, that's what they say.
When something's free, then you're the product, right?
Right.
Yeah.
So I want to make a point on what you said, Sergio.
Kudos to you.
You're touching a very important point,
which I was not planning to talk about this this now but when you mentioned that maybe your friend that is connected with
you match id is fan of psg and then you give a gift to him whatever psg maybe you don't know that
that's one of the main features that match id will have, because blockchain will allow us to. So we can have these interconnected profiles and IDs
between your, let's say your network,
or basically imagine your LinkedIn profile,
and you can quantify the power of your network
for the first time, how influential are you,
or how connected are you,
or your network is 100% of gamers.
So that's something that will be extremely...
So my point is match ID, data,
all of these are going to open many, many angles and products
and ways to leverage who you are on the digital world.
You can leverage your network or your own data.
So that's another great point that you touched.
All right.
Well, thank you for the extra context and insights
uh patrick's um yeah um once you have that fully launched you know i will finally be able to
demonstrate to people um that i'm actually not as influential as they think and you know finally
uh clarify that and and then show maybe Mr. Minter's match ID
and then tell them, hey, this is the boss, just let him know, you know?
All right. Yeah, thank you so much for everything.
Thank you so much for that.
And well, now a question that is important to us, right?
We hear a lot about Anchor
providing the backbone infrastructure
for Web3.
And, well, today I was checking
your documentation.
And so if you need a RPC,
you know, use Anchor's one.
This is the details, you know,
just add them to your,
either your command,
sorry, your,
I forgot the name of it, man. So your backend, you know, just add them to your, to your, either your command, sorry, your, I forgot the name of it, man.
So your backend, you know, or to your wallet.
And so what role is Anchor playing in supporting my change vision and infrastructure, right?
Are there some specific areas
where this partnership has had an impact?
And yeah, just looking to hear a little bit more we often get
this question like hey you announced this partnership what what are you doing right
is this a fake partnership is it something just marketing you know is there something real behind
it so i always uh bring this up to to our partners and it would be great to get your point of view
yeah i mean it's it would be fake if you thought that your head right is is not needed it's
fake right um we've talked about how we care about users and users being able to take advantage of
all of the products that we are building the way that users humans uh and bots uh and AI touch Muttrain is through Anchor. Every time you
engage with Muttrain, any of our
products, Muttid,
Hub, etc., you are
using an Anchor
provided service and a server
that Muttrain
our blockchain runs on.
So Anchor is a critical part of our
infrastructure.
And we felt that Anchor was the right partner to work with since we had this unprecedented demand for performance.
Not many blockchains, you know, run hundreds of millions of users.
hundreds of millions of users and that is what we are getting to very quickly and we felt that
And that is what we are getting to very quickly.
anchor is the right partner to help us scale to a billion users on a blockchain again go to the
radar we are number one l2 that's running on anchor i don't know who's the second l2 i don't
know who they run on um but but anchors got the number one at this point wow yeah thank you thomas uh for you know making it such so clear it's that clear and it's that
powerful right you are you guys are the the heart um the center of matching, right? This is how we connect to users. We are working with Anchor
on additional exciting products.
I can share a little about it,
which is, you know,
once we launch our token,
the token will have ability to be staked
and there will be a liquid staking product
and Anchor will help us deliver that to market
at TGE. will be a liquid staking product and anchor will help us deliver that to market um at pg
oh well um yeah i'm i'm also uh learning about that right now so that's uh that's great and um
you know first of all thank you for your support thank you for the kind words and uh yeah i hope
that we continue to be as you said the the heart of my chain, you know, now and forever.
And once you, well, once you have the billion or, you know, thousands of billion users in there, I hope we continue to be there and, you know, do great things together.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much.
Please don't forget to contribute to some users as well. So let's make sure that Anchor community
join the same community, follow us.
And we definitely going to do things together.
Our token launch is coming soon, guys.
We are on this TGE sprint.
And I'm going to make sure that we do something really sweet
and nice for the Anchor community.
Oh, that's great.
When is it coming, by the way?
Next month.
Actually, this is the first time that I speak publicly as well,
but we are working, as I even know if I should,
but it is what it is.
We are working really, really hard to launch our project next month.
So we are doing a massive community sale
because there's no point
for us to be VC owned if you have the mission that you have. So Matching must
be community owned, user owned, and every single user must profit from Matching
revenue. So we are doing this massive campaign right now, which you can just go
to our, I'm not going to talk about this here, you can just go to our i'm not going to talk about this here you can just go to our page and take a look and depending how successful this goes we are ready to g that's it
i think your your marketing team is sweating right now
probably i'm sorry about that guys um. We just made Patrick talk about it.
He was forced to. Don't blame him. Blame us.
Well, thank you, Patrick, for that insight.
And yeah, now moving to a new section, right?
We have talked about real-world use cases already.
And I think you
have provided you know already a lot of details a lot of insights maybe a little
bit you know more than you should but I'm glad to you know to have received
that now moving to some challenges and opportunity you know we'd love to hear
from you know from you about this and we all know that building in Web3 comes with its own unique set of challenges, right?
Especially when it comes to usability regulation, which is a challenging topic.
And well, bridging the Web2 to Web3 gap, which you guys seem to be, well, really good at it, right?
So from your experience working with businesses,
since you have a lot of experience on this field,
what are some of the biggest pain points
that Matchchain, you know,
is solving for companies entering the Web3 space?
Yeah, I think...
Go ahead, Chris.
Go ahead, please.
Yeah, I think...
Well, depends if you ask about users and companies.
You ended with companies.
For companies, it's still understanding.
For example, we've educated, we've had multiple hour-long sessions
educating executives at Paris Saint-Germain about what is blockchain,
how does it operate, etc.
It's still very much on education when engaging with companies, because that then allows them to brainstorm internally and think how they can take advantage of this powerful new database, this powerful new tool.
So education is first when it comes to enterprises, customers.
A little different sort of education for users.
I think if you need to educate users, you're failing a little on your user experience.
The UX needs to be so intuitive and so easy to use that you don't need a video that tells
you how to use that you don't need a video that tells you how to use it um so in when it
comes to users it continues to be the user experience gas you know gas is a very atypical
thing in a normal world when you watch netflix you don't pay little tokens into the machine
to pay the aws bill netflix just charges your credit card and then they take a portion of that
and they send the money to AWS.
I think they used to run on AWS.
I'm not sure what they run today, right?
But the way that Web3 works,
you literally sit in there on TV with, you know,
20 cents and every 10 minutes,
you need to throw 20 cents in
so you can continue watching Netflix.
So solving that problem for users,
we are partnering,
we are building account abstraction, paymaster functionality into MatchID to solve that user experience.
But it's still the user experience when it comes to onboarding billions of non-crypto native people to Web3.
All right. Thank you, Thomas. non-crypto native people to web3 all right thank you thomas yeah
that's it oh okay okay he said it all he said it all
okay uh i think we tapped into an interesting one um you know you both wanted to wanted to talk
about it and it seems that that it was overly exciting.
Thomas didn't leave anything for you, Patrick.
And then looking ahead,
what kind of future challenges do you see on the horizon?
What's Matt Chain's approach to the idea
prepared to address those challenges?
I would say that we're going to keep firm on our vision,
which is keep onboarding more global brands
and find a way not to focus on onboarding just users on Web3.
But first, how can I bring value?
How can I make blockchain improve the operations of your company?
How can I make blockchain give you direct access
to your customer base or your friends?
That way, I'm going to pave my car, my way in,
to onboard them to blockchain masses, also improve the value.
But that's the main challenge,
which is make those companies think and act like PSG.
So that's our goal.
And also make the industry, the Web3 industry,
which is a big, big, big challenge, let's say big again,
understand that everyone claims and question and exchanges
that we must bring or bridge
people from web 2 from web 3 from web 2 to web 3 when someone is finally doing
we need to see the value of this we need to be like my users your fans or your
community or all your users they are not on telegram there we go they come from
web 2 right so people need to understand and support beyond what they are
already used to it so there's no the fun fact is there's not just an education needed on web 3 on
web 2 companies there's a massive education that needs on web 3 because in the end my web 2 users
are not the main traders they can become the main traders at some point
because it's educational process.
But I want exchanges and the Web3 community
and the TGEMs to understand the value of what
we're doing over here and be super bullish about it.
Because if you think about it, like I told you,
90%-ish of our user base came from Web2.
We are the perfect project for exchanges.
The conversion rate is 90%
because they don't have exchange accounts.
You understand the value of that.
And many exchanges, I mean, all of them now
are very, I'd say, very positive in a sense.
But my point is educational matters
and education not just for web2 companies but for
web2 industries because when someone starts to shift the ground we need to see and recognize
the value of that yeah 100 100 patrick couldn't agree more and well also you know it's not all
about challenges there's a lot of momentum building too.
It seems to be the perfect time for building Web3
and for the expansion of it.
As Patrick, I think you mentioned in the very beginning,
being the first in something is important.
It doesn't mean it's not everything, but it's important.
At the same time, being the first after the first wave maybe you know that's the the key right and what
opportunities are you most excited about in Wetteri right now by the way you can you know
just mention a couple of them if you maybe you maybe you can't share too much.
Yeah, I'm just interested in hearing your thoughts.
Look, I think there hasn't been really anything big and exciting since DeFi Summer, right?
We've proven that blockchain can be used to do DeFi. I believe that DeFi Summer and DeFi applications are fantastic for institutions,
but they are still too hard to use for normal users.
Like, how do I explain to my mom
how to do a looping strategy on borrowed assets?
But I don't think they should be.
I think we should write apps on top of it,
easy to use interfaces on top of it,
that allow my mom to earn yield
without thinking about how it's done, you know, all of the details underneath it.
I continue to be excited about what happens when we bring a billion new non-crypto native
users to Web3 and what are all the games, applications, sports applications, sports betting they will use.
I think the next summer is the user summer.
Our technology, account abstraction, paymasters are so close to being able to deliver that centralized experience in a decentralized way
that I think that is the next revolution
and I think we will be at the forefront of it
sounds great um it looks like okay it looks like Patrick agrees and yeah Thomas I um I agree with
you and I think it makes a lot sense um. Just a couple of days ago, I was chatting with some other people in crypto and Web3.
And the conclusion we reached was that crypto feels a bit elitist right now.
Because either you know or you don't know, you're in or you're out.
You want to onboard someone, then they need to go through all this
process of learning you know and this wallet set up and i don't know and whatnot um and many people
give up because we from from the inside from this industry right we are right oh if you don't know
then just get out of here you know and and that feels unfair right um so So yeah, it's great that you bring that up
and you mentioned that.
And we've got just, it's going so fast, wow.
It feels like it was a couple of minutes ago
we just started.
I have another two couple of questions
which is on future directions.
So pretty much we wrap it up by looking forward
so what are
MATChain's main goals for expanding the
ecosystem in 2025
we are already halfway through maybe even
2026
any upcoming milestones or programs
that well we should keep an eye on
if you can share of course
I'm not looking to make you share
confidential stuff. So I was working
with people who built social companies before
and they say, look, the first thousand,
second thousand, third thousand are hard
and then ten thousand is easy.
Ten thousand, twenty, thirty is hard.
Hundred thousand is easy.
We just did
the ten, twenty, thirty million.
Hopefully we do that jump to 100 billion very quickly.
Hopefully that's easy.
And then it's a grind again,
100 million, 200, 300 million.
And then hopefully that billion comes easy after that.
So for us, it's acquiring users.
Patricks, of course, talked about the other massive event
that's happening for us next month.
So the rabbit's out of
the bag here um patrick do you want to share anything else what's coming in the future
yes like i said um we have like a very uh the short term midterm and the long term
so we now immediately we are focused on our launch, focused on expand our main ad, bring the token live, TGE,
and then fully focus on the part that I'm most excited about, which is growth.
We have a lot of partnerships to unlock.
This one that we're just talking, the whole AMA,
no, not the whole AMA, but which was our exciting parts
like from the AMA about PSG is just one piece.
I can promise you there's more as excited.
But PSG is so special.
Of course.
Very excited coming as well.
And we need to finish the short term and then bring it on the table
once the growth part started but also the product's going to be going to keep improving right
the match id the dashboard enterprise dashboard the user dashboard and also our ai platform which
is the main goal which we believe they're going to be live mid-next year already, at least on the beta version, which is the following, which is the main purpose and goal of matching
blockchain and AI intersection with user and data, which is the following.
And I can wrap up after this.
Our main goal that we are preparing the product to be mid-next year approximately is the following.
Let's use PSG as an example.
PSG is going to go to our platform and talk to AI
the same way that we talk to chat GPT.
Should PSG are going to type a question, for example,
and say, hey, who are the PSG fans?
Or let's say, no PSG, football fans in Brazil.
When you type this question,
our AI profiling tool is going to take the whole user base
and cross the behaviors, cross the profiling tools, and give the statistics from the question exactly tailored that PSG made it.
PSG is going to see the statistics, but not going to see the users.
Usually, now PSG or any company needs to go to Alphabet, a company that provides data, and pay for this information, for example, $10 million.
So that information costs $10 million to PSG if they want to reach football fans in Brazil.
Now you have to go buy MIT token, $10 million worth, and lock in a smart contract.
You're not paying, you lock in a smart contract.
When you lock in a smart contract, you're proving from the people the statistics that are serious that you are committed to requesting data
now every single person for the statistics gonna receive a message do you consent to give your data
oh your sports behavior to sports company hell yeah that's why i am watching games supporting
liking do whatever i do when you say this that you consent to share your sports behavior, the $10 million, the
wealth of the data, the wealth of the internet that used to go to a single company, it starts
to be redistributed to every single user that consent.
This is what I call the initial process of the data wealth redistribution.
So now you get money to consent the data that you want
to receive what you want, understand?
So that's the platform that you're developing
to be live mid and next year-ish,
depending on the progress of the growth of your user base.
Because like I said, to get to this point,
we need users.
Users need an ID.
Also, they have the ID id they need to have applications to
lead and generate and empower their profile that's what you can expect on matching i would say 2026.
huge thank you patrick and um also um i think here you know I want to mention also kind of my bad, and I think it's going to, it potentially will tend to happen,
you know, for people like me, we're hosting this episode, right?
And we see PSG, especially football fans like me, and I see, wow.
I say, I'm going to ask Petrix, you know, everything about PSG.
So yeah, maybe I have also, you have also driven the conversation
That way a little bit
Quite a lot maybe
You know
Unconsciously
But yeah it's definitely an exciting one
And I'm sure there will be a lot more to come
And yeah
Just super exciting
Especially for the football fans
I am sort of
ah sometimes i'm a fan of psg uh especially when when messi joined um i think you can guess now
which club i'm fan of uh but yeah um you know overall this is just of course i think uh except
those radical fans right everyone's just joking like oh your club
this this this and my club that that that you know um but yeah exciting to see i love what
you're talking about and i want everyone to think about it it doesn't matter right now for us that
we are here and people from our industry which club do you really like this is a win this is a
win for blockchain right even if you are uh another club in france
fan monaco which is fantastic as well or all the ones like you should support because this is
blockchain winning and expanding and the more successful this partnership is more global
brands will come to psg oh they will will come we'll come to blockchain so exactly yes
yeah and it's also the football industry evolving right which is long needed
totally 100 and i think i will wrap and give the last uh update for you because you like football
you're gonna be excited and if everyone likes to see those things happening on blockchain and we getting more space in space,
I think you're all going to be happy very soon
to see a commercial where your favorite current PSG player
will say in a commercial saying,
welcome to Matching Center and another five players
in general.
Oh, wow.
So we have a very good commercial coming soon.
So yeah, that's a huge one.
Hopefully we see Osman doing something on this regard.
And yeah, thank you so much again,
Patrick and Thomas for the insights.
Finally, and I will open the floor to the audience.
For any developer businesses,
curious builders listening,
how can they get involved with matt chain um grants toolings community support what's the best entry point you mentioned
your your site you mentioned previously that you didn't want to uh maybe share too much in here but
i welcome you to please do so yes look the joint innovation studio go to our website uh map train.io slash jis
it's easy to find joint innovation studio um what joint innovation studio gives you is a access to
millions of psg fans right? And the right applications,
we will bring them forefront to PSG executives
and start running MVPs,
demos, and tests
of these applications with PSG.
So if you're building something
that requires millions of fans,
millions of users,
and it's general purpose application, right?
It's not something
that is only for accountants, right?
Because there are some accountants for PSG fans,
but that's what we are going after.
A general purpose application that benefits from millions of users
and can help PSG, MADtrain, improve that fan experience,
improve that user experience, bring that forward to us.
Apply in JIS.
There is a firm where you can apply,
and we will be bringing these applications in front of PSG.
I think that is the best offer in the industry.
It's not just some money.
It is really getting you users, users fans and massive growth very quickly
so that's my great action for developers
thank you so much uh thomas and yeah everyone you know please make sure um if you have any
needs on that regard um check out well there, there, give them a follow as well.
We've got matching the X profile in here as well.
And yeah, I mean, everything's on their side.
Before we wrap up,
do we, are we still okay with maybe
leaving 10 minutes,
opening the floor to the listeners?
Patrick, Thomas, I know we are a little bit over the one hour scope that we that we initially mentioned
well the community that rules it so if they still have questions they are
available here I have to be available for them let's go great yeah if you have a
question feel free to request to speak or drop it in the comment section.
I see we have already a few comments and we will bring you into the conversation.
We have covered a lot of ground today, though.
So I understand, you know, if, well, I think there are a few questions left probably.
There are some important ones in the comments by the way
patrick's and yeah uh one of the best parts as patrick mentioned is um you know giving the
community a chance to engage so we will have a 10 15 you know maybe a little bit more um if there is
um a lot of demand and yeah we'll dive into some of the questions uh whether you're curious about
how to integrate my chain you want to know more about the questions uh whether you're curious about how to integrate matching
you want to know more about the tech wondering what you know the future looks like um so this
is your chance and yeah request to speak i will go through the comments uh right now you know while
we we get that and um i love benfica i would love them to get more into blockchain too. That's why I follow PSG because of ex-Benfica players.
Nice.
Bring Benfica, please.
Yes.
That's from Rafael.
Let me check.
Let's go PSG.
I have a question.
How does MAD chain leverage Anchor Web3 API on BNB chain?
I can respond to the last question with two words.
Yes, possible.
That's all.
Great. You said a lot. The last question was two words. Yes, possible. That's all.
Great.
You said a lot and you didn't say too much at the same time.
That's an art.
And yeah, I think we covered this one already.
Keep your data locked down.
Still drop real-time perks for PSG fans.
Yes, that's what Thomas and Patrick's, you know, were you know where oh well that was 44 minutes ago so understandable um kudos to the team behind this project um i
have a question please what are the criteria for qualifying for the allocation can we share any
any insights on this one. Thomas,
your floor.
The floor is yours.
Yeah, absolutely.
I guess allocations can be meant in multiple ways.
So right now, you can
purchase a license
that generates MAT tokens.
We are looking to onboard
community that wants
to be with us for a long term, for a long time.
And the license is an amazing way to do that.
So I highly encourage you to take a look at that and consider doing that.
Also, in terms of an airdrop, no one has really made it very clear exactly what you need to do, but you absolutely
need to have a much ID and be active in our community, in our socials to qualify for the
airdrop.
I would say the typical things, and we do a very good job of allowing you to earn points.
There is definitely correlation.
More points is better than less points.
Of course.
Fair.
Yes.
Thank you, Thomas. more points is better than less points of course fair yes thank you thomas um yeah and cisco and
big kc uh i would just go through two more comments and i'll introduce you um so here's a
one for patrick's so patrick's thank you for the clarifications you spoke well um yeah i agree and
there's another one from henry i'm jealous of PSG right now.
Getting into the world of Web3, it's a great step.
I hope Matt Ching can partner with Liverpool FC.
It's another club being requested.
No comments.
No comments.
Two words.
No more comments from Patrick.
Is it possible or no comments?
He has commented too much already. there's no comments at this point
um cisco hello i saw you left a comment but you know since you wanted to speak to patrick's and
thomas directly i think that's the best way to put it welcome welcome cisco
hello can you guys hear me?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, thank you. I'm not used to talking here on X.
I follow a lot of fan tokens because I'm a soccer fan, not soccer, football here in Europe, it's football.
So I was wondering if this PSG license, it's like a success. Can we see other clubs?
Like I saw you mentioned Benfica,
that's why I'm wondering if you can see this
with other clubs as well.
I can easily...
First, really nice to meet you, Cisco.
Thank you for joining, for participating
and jumping in the stage and making a question.
I can definitely talk about it openly,
there's no problem.
There's something that PSG made to us,
which is very positive and is intentional.
They dropped the first big domino piece.
So I can easily affirm you that we've been in touch
with a lot of other football clubs and other brands.
But our way to work is, like I said,
in the shape of the G GIS, the Joint Innovation Studio,
making sure that they're really diving into blockchain
and creating not only one solution, many.
So I can tell you that maybe new things
are going to be announced and happening soon
or at some point mid of the end of the year.
But yes, to answer your questions, totally possible.
And to make this question even more interesting,
PSG is totally supportive about that.
Because again, we have one mission.
And we're going to even announce another thing with PSG very soon,
which is about education.
And part of this education, it's a media thing.
It's to inspire other brands, companies, and why not other football clubs to do the same?
So we are in touch with other companies, brands, but not just on football.
Like I said, match chains focus on the users.
Football fan, you are a normal person that invests, that trade, that travel, that are an entrepreneur.
the travel that are an entrepreneur so we are also looking to luxury fashion
brands high luxury sports cars different sports different industries
healthcare we're gonna spread our wings as much as possible in different
industries
that's all I hope I think you did i thought you were going to say no comments
again so that was already above my expectations um yeah thank you patrick and thank you cisco for
the question um it looks like it doesn't have a follow-up um we've got chidi vince right there Vince are there Vincent yeah thank you Patrick I'm so excited about your
explanation about my chain I've been following my chance since inception but
I want to you to put me through on mostly what I did not understand maybe
you've touched about that here, about your scalability, consensus,
and smart contract deployment.
Abik, please put me through on that.
Just very briefly, please.
Thomas, enjoy.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, that's where Anchor comes in.
In terms of scalability, right? We wish, watch out what you wish for. We wish we are working on a billion users, but there is no blockchain out there that has billion users, especially active ones. And we are teaming with Anchor to make sure that we can scale to that massive massive load which is coming and it's coming quickly okay thank you thank you thomas thank you um i see another question from
maestro in the comments it says will there be an exclusive nft for psg fans on my chain to celebrate making it to the UCL semifinals?
That's for sure.
Honestly, every single game we are having a special badge.
This badge is helping PSG collect the attention level of the fans,
of the users, or the new PSG fans that are coming from Web3
that we are helping to bring to PSG.
So every single game, we have a badge about every game,
Champions League or League One game,
to collect the attention span
and then put in a leaderboard the fans
that's been collected the most of our game and participation.
So for sure, PSG has an amazing squad this year.
I think, I'm very bullish, I don't't want to speculate but it's doing very well so what i can guarantee that to going to finals we're going to
do something very special and winning the champions league oh man we go crazy for sure
you can expect some autographed t-shirts for everyone or many things that i can do and to support oh wow
wow that's huge yeah thank you patrick for dropping that and um yeah i see another question
from miguel um i i saw i saw miguel in the in the partner spotlight since i think the early you know first five minutes um it's been here um so the question is
who buys the genesis nft will have earlier access to the mat token and does the team have other
benefits on the hand for us yeah absolutely so um you know the gen the Genesis NFT license unlocks 200 MAT. And that is one of the best ways to get your MAT allocation earlier than, you know, in order of the unlocks, etc.
the unlock starts at TGE.
So from the moment we TGE,
each license is generating,
unlocking these tokens.
So that's definitely in terms of early access.
Second part of the question was additional benefits.
We are still working on the details
of additional benefits.
And some of the limits are,
we need to make sure that we can connect
the real world with blockchain.
So while we would want the benefit where if you have X licenses, you get a shirt.
I don't know, you know, from your wallet address.
I don't know your home address.
Getting a shirt to someone in France or Vietnam or Nigeria or the United States, you have different challenges there.
So we are working through a second part.
Our desire, our heart is in it.
The answer is yes.
But we need to figure out in such a way
that it works in a decentralized way with your wallet,
not with a physical address or a meetup location.
Huge. with you know a physical address or a meetup location huge thank you thank you so much Thomas and well it sounds pretty exciting I just wanted to remind one
little thing I said previously like if you guys have a silver card you know
spare silver card there feel free to send it my way i'll receive it
with how gladly you know super happily receive it i have a plastic card we need to figure out
how to like fractionalize it right maybe allow like two or three friends to get to get in or
maybe just people need to figure out get some friends together and buy it that way
and buy it that way.
Why are you being spoiled, Thomas?
why are you doing spoiler thomas that's next step
That's next step.
I don't know.
Maybe that's why I spoiled it.
You are dropping so many things today,
Inge, here.
I hope you don't get blamed
by the marketing team.
And I'm sorry you guys continue to sweat.
But yeah, we are dropping so many things today
in this session and
yeah um that was a great round of questions and thank you so much uh patrick and thomas you know
including these well the ones that i had for you guys and the ones coming from the community
thanks to everyone who chimed in of course um before we officially close, Patrick and Thomas,
at Anchor, we'd love to give you the final word,
anything you would like to leave our listeners with,
call to action, a thought, a quote that you like,
maybe where Web3 is headed, whatever.
The floor is yours so i wake up every morning and i take a picture of the sunrise
and i just post on my facebook that just says grind so lately that's been my uh my quote um
with the sunrise but i don't know patrick what what do you do i maybe to sleep when you take the picture of the sunrise because you need to alternate into
time zones but that's a great way to put it our dedication and what we're doing so I think my
final message first I want to say thank you so so much to Anchor Team Anchor Community to support us
so much to Anchor team, Anchor community, to support us, to believe in our vision, and to
constantly help us and come up with new ideas of new things that we should or must do together.
So thank you so much, Anchor, Arsalan, the whole team that supports us, Sergio. So that's the first
part of what I want to say. Second part is we only wake up early to take pictures of the sunrise
or go sleep by the sunrise
because we are super committed to our community.
So we are working extremely hard
to deliver everything
that we always dreamt of
or we promised to you.
So we ask you to trust us.
Don't expect anything common
because we came here on unconventional solutions.
So we're going to come with more unconventional solutions by every single step of this project.
And we want you to test risk and jump on board with us because the ride will be very, this journey
will be very, very cool. And make sure that this team is fully committed
and driven to to deliver the mission to everyone in the community for matching and the partners that are involved with us well thank you again patrick's and thomas it's really inspiring you
know and um thank you again for your support as well i'm so so, so glad that Anchor is able, you know, to assist in the journey.
And of course, thank you for allowing us
to, you know, team up with you guys
and do these amazing, amazing things
that you're trying to do.
And that, well, of course,
that you're achieving already, right?
And yeah, you'll never walk alone.
I've just stolen that quote
from a Liverpool fan
but yeah
there we go
I'm a professional quote
you know
Steeler
Thief
and yeah
thank you for
again for your time
you know
for joining us
and everyone
who is listening
you know
thank you all
for being here today with us.
Thank you for being part of the conversation as well.
Inspiring times.
Patrick, Thomas and their team,
they're doing so much.
But it's not only for my chain,
it's for the whole industry.
So we are super happy to be part of that.
And if you enjoyed this episode,
please give us a follow.
And yeah, this is where you will get next episodes
and potentially a second episode,
again, with Patrick and Thomas,
hopefully when they have more time,
when the TG is done
and when they onboard the whole League One clubs.
And yeah, be sure to give us,
give them, sorry, a follow as well,
you know, check their side.
And we've got more coming soon, right?
And until next time, take care, stay curious,
keep exploring Web3 with Match Chain,
you know, create a match ID
and let us know how that goes.
Thank you so much. Bye-bye, guys guys it was a huge pleasure thanks everyone same same likewise thanks everyone lots of fun take
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