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Partner Spotlight - Nansen: How Nansen is Mapping the Crypto World
Recorded: July 17, 2025 Duration: 1:00:40Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, Nansen's community manager Sean shared insights on the platform's innovative tools for on-chain intelligence, including a new mobile research agent and the introduction of Nansen Points for staking rewards. The conversation highlighted emerging trends in blockchain analytics, emphasizing user experience and the integration of AI, while also showcasing Nansen's commitment to partnerships and community engagement.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Do you like the DMK?
Can you hear me? Thank you. Hi Sergio, can you hear me? hey sean how's it going going good what about yourself how are you feeling today
yeah all good actually funny enough i had issues getting myself you know um on on the X space as a speaker.
Yeah, it happens X rocks us once in a while on one of these spaces.
Yeah, man, I don't know.
I mean, because I have two devices, I have an iOS, and this is an Android I recently bought. I thought it was actually my older, you know, Android phone, but I think there must be some kind of optimization
issue when it comes to X on Android.
Yes, totally.
Previously when I was using Android, it was such a nightmare for X spaces.
Okay, okay, I get it now.
Yeah, unfortunately I don't have the budget to get two ios devices
um but to be fair to be fair um and my ios device is second hand um this one has been nearly you know um the same same same coast like i think it was 10 or 15 less
same coast like i think it was 10 or 15 less um and yeah i mean hardware wise it's really good
so um i thought it was more like a hardware issue you know with the previous phone
yeah definitely not using it's the power of the tech man yeah man
yeah man it is what it is i guess um and yeah nice to nice to talk to you man
likewise thanks for having us on the spacers today oh of course of course um we have this
partner spotlight series ongoing for a while and um you know we try to get um like interesting
and um you know we try to get um like interesting conversations for the audience and it's always good
to hear and learn more you know from the people behind crypto um of course it's not the same just
reading some some article you know or um some pieces on the internet um than hearing somebody
actually talk about it so yeah thank you for
joining us and thank you for your time of course likewise thanks for having us on and always
happy to jump on spaces with our partners like this nice nice um yeah i think uh well we have
a we have some listeners already like hi everyone and um well let's um let's give everyone a couple more
minutes and you know then uh yeah we can officially get started sounds good sounds good where are you
tuning in from uh sean i'm actually based in Singapore, so now it's around 7pm.
Oh, Singapore. Okay.
Yeah, what about yourself? Where are you basing currently?
I'm from Europe, so we are, you know, this is 1pm right now in the CET area.
Nice. We're from Europe because I was actually just
in France
like 2-3 weeks
ago for an
offsite
beautiful country
the sun is
extremely bright
the summers are
yeah
a lot longer
than I
expected to be
honest because
in Asia
by like 7pm
it's really
dark already
but I got a
little bit of
shock when it
was like 9pm
and yet it was
still really
really sunny yeah with the you know cet um the um this saving you know the daylight saving
thingy uh it gets really long i'm a bit more by the south so i'm in spain but uh yeah the you know
the daylight is even a little bit more longer in here um you came in
during a nice week man we are now sorry we are now suffering a heat wave and uh we are just melting
down man man sorry to hear remember to drink loads of water man oh yeah yeah yesterday actually um i had i had some issues um because i was i had been out all
day and then i forgot to like um get myself some water i forgot my water bottle at home
and at some point i was just feeling dizzy um i went running to like to a supermarket
uh bought some like cold water otherwise i don't know it it was just but you don't realize until
you realize you know what i mean like um yes and probably by then it's nearly a little too late
yeah it's a little bit late you're all right so want to like go over the time that i booked you from your team
um so yeah let's uh get it started before you know you're late to your next meeting or whatnot
it happens a lot um yeah i don't i don't want to receive more complaints um just kidding man um
receive more complaints um just kidding man um but yeah uh well i do talk a lot just for your
information and um if it overruns it overruns it's okay no worries okay cool cool cool that's great
and well i would just get it started then with the official intro um so hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the anchor partner spotlight where we
break down the big ideas in web3 with people building them um i'm your host sergio and today
we are diving into the world of own chain intelligence with a team that's become a
go-to resource for anyone serious about crypto analytics which is nansen
i believe they've helped countless traders institutions builders make sense of the noise by
leveling millions of wallets and tracking behavior across you know chains and joining us today is sean who is here to give us an insider view on nansen's
story tools trends what's coming next um please don't ask for alpha um shout for it i'm just
kidding and welcome to the show thank you for joining us and uh well let's uh start at the beginning so sean hello
hello hello maybe maybe i'll just give a very brief short introduction about myself so nice to
meet everyone sean as sergio has already mentioned i'm from nansen i'm a community manager over there
so i oversee two main discords which is our main discord where everyone can join,
as well as our alpha discord made out of our annual professional subs.
And yeah, first of all, Nansen years ago when I was part of the Pajri Penguins community,
ran an event, Nansen was a sponsor.
And yeah, three years later, here i am in a company that sponsored one
of my events and truly one of the companies of my dream wow um yeah and how did you get like started
in crypto by the way oh specifically in crypto um at the point of time i was still studying uh
specifically in crypto.
At the point of time, I was still studying.
Heard of Dogecoin through friends.
And one year during Chinese New Year,
where the seniors in the family actually give out red packets,
I took that red packet money and ape into Doge
before Elon Musk started shilling it.
And when it went out, I was like,
hey, I'm making some money out of this.
So upon my graduation, I went and applied like whatever Web3 jobs I could find.
And four years later, I'm an addict in the space, really.
Wow.
I actually don't believe in that story, Sean.
you know you getting to keep red pockets that makes no sense that makes no sense and
You know, you getting to keep red buckets, that makes no sense.
That makes no sense.
i think at the point i was old enough and my parents were trying to teach me on like
financial ownership or all that sort so i was given that risk that luxury really okay okay
that makes more sense now um as i grew up i never got to keep my red packets so um you know that was something new
to me all right um i will make sure i tell my parents um i'm already 30 something years old
but you know i will make sure i get them back with interest collector assuming you bought bitcoin
like 10 years ago um no unfortunately not i heard actually about Bitcoin 10 years ago then you know I've been
interviewing so many people and they all tell me oh well not everyone but um big part of them they
tell me and then I went and asked my you know um most intelligent friend like the smartest friend
um I and I assume that those that don't
tell me that story is because they are the smart friend right but unfortunately I'm not
I went and asked my smart friend and he knew a lot about Bitcoin um but he knew more of this
is a very technical focused guy so um all he was about is mining and and whatnot and then he he didn't care about the you know the
market side of the thing and he was like well if you want to mine um you know I can I can guide
you through the process but you're gonna need this this hardware and whatnot and I was a uni
student at the time so there was a lot of money for me um and well I knew you could buy some you
know from somebody else but my friend was like oh why would you buy it from somebody else you know
you need to mine it yourself it's for free and I was like okay um yeah when I have a bit more money
you know that that red packet would come would have come in very handy um I was like when
I have a bit more money yeah I'll probably get on that and a couple of years later ask him again
and he was like well you know what now you need more hardware so I was like oh you know and then
eventually yeah I just just gave up eventually until the ICO boom um back in 2017, I joined late 2017.
And well, I mean, at the time,
I still didn't have a lot of cash.
So I bought a little bit, I'm still holding,
but yeah, it's just peanuts compared to, you know,
what whales have.
Yeah, for sure.
And yeah, I do agree that like in the past,
like mining equipment in theory
sounded very attractive like oh mine cryptocurrencies and yeah you get magic internet money
but the hardware was pretty expensive and required a certain degree of technical knowledge
yeah exactly and back in the day when somebody told you like oh you need a gpu with dedicated uh memory for it you were like what
does that even exist you know um so yeah but well you know it is what it is at least i think we are
still early to be honest so yeah and um well um you've told us also uh what led you to join Nansen.
Very interesting and fun origin story, by the way.
It's always great to hear when community-led initiatives, you know,
evolved into like a career path in crypto.
That's, I mean, the magic.
And I think it's happening a bit less now.
I don't know what's your take on that, Sean?
Yeah, I think definitely it feels a bit lesser than in the past.
I think previously it was a lot of like,
oh, you go to all these networking events,
interact with people,
and then now it's just a lot lesser compared to,
like, say, three years ago,
where it's a lot more prevalent.
Right.
Yeah.
And, well, I mean, i mean audience chat take note token 2049 seems to be a great catalyst
for bringing the right people together um but yeah unfortunately it's happening lesser but uh
i believe you know it's still happening in the space it's still worth um showcasing you know
what you're capable of and of course just talking to people.
I think the crypto people, we are still super open to just knowing each other and it can
spark amazing stories like this one.
Yeah, Sean?
Yeah, for sure. I think in the past, we used to see like on CT, people just interacting with each other.
Funnily enough, I'm not sure if you know, this guy called Alex on Chain apparently got a job at Coinbase Marketing by just DMing the account.
So you never know through like all this, the network that you create, like what it comes out of.
yeah man exactly exactly and uh well now um zooming out a little bit from uh from the intro
Yeah, man, exactly.
um we are tapping a little now into nansen so sean we have a question like a super easy simple
and direct one right what makes nansen different from other blockchain analytics platforms out there
well thank you very much for your question i think whenever i do i share about nansen
nansen actually fulfills three main purpose on the analytics side of the platform
we help investors to discover new tokens do due diligence before they buy into tokens
and finally after they have bought into
tokens, how do they actually defend their portfolio? So discover due diligence and defend.
This is what Nansen as an analytics platform does. And one thing that we do amazing is to label
hundreds of millions of wallets out there. We actually label the wallets based on the behavior as well as performance.
And this enables crypto investors to surface the signals from noise.
Because if you were to look at like say a wallet address, you just see like these numbers
and alphabets, but you don't know what do these mean.
And this is where an analytics platform like Nansen comes into play to help you to surface
the signal from noise.
And most recently, we actually launched Nansen Points
where users are able to stake, subscribe,
as well as refer friends to stake their Nansen Points.
And it's a cross-collaborative points program
with partners with other companies in the space,
such as like Bybit, CoinGecko, Delphi, just to name a few.
So if any of our listeners are interested to find out more,
do check out the pinned post on Nonsense Twitter currently.
Oh, okay.
So do I understand correctly?
So for example, when I'm scrolling through X or the Telegram news portals and whatnot,
when I see the certain whale wallet has woken up from, I don't know, since 2017 and whatnot
and transferred a certain amount of BTC or ETH to this exchange,
is that something that I would see on Nansen, for example?
Yes, you're absolutely right.
Whenever you see like, oh, and if ICO participant
has just transferred ETH to another wallet
or even Bitcoin transfers like the Satoshi era
that I think a couple of days took the news,
I'm super proud to say that that data was actually uncovered
through one of nansen's affiliates uh his name is onchainlands do drop him a follow if you haven't
already those these data points are actually discovered by one of our affiliates using nansen
oh wow okay i mean that sounds interesting and uh it seems that you're really covering like the the full stack right from this kind of surfacing alpha alpha to like um yeah this loyalty ecosystem that you mentioned
with the nansen points right um so it's just not for this like not only for the sake of data but
uh yeah also like you incentive exploration learning and I assume that if you make this you know
when you discover something you earn extra points right I'm not quite
actually okay yeah you actually earn points through sticking with Nansen
subscribing to the Nansen platform as well as referring friends to subscribe
to Nansen oh all right all right well definitely
going to check out that uh pin post because before um you know i uh i make more assumptions that are
not correct and all good don't worry about it yeah of course thanks um now maybe getting a little bit more technical.
Can you briefly work us through how Nansen labels wallets and how they turn raw blockchain data into actionable insights?
And I don't know if you have a technical background, Sean, but many of us in the audience I believe we we are not very much technical so
you know feel free to just do a high level overview or of course if you would like to
get a bit technical you're all welcome well Sergio I'm going to be completely honest with you
I'm not the most technical person around oh me, me neither. The rest of the company. So how exactly, like,
if you ask me how coding works
or how do I code something,
probably wouldn't be able to answer you that, unfortunately.
Same, same.
Yeah, I'm able to explain to you
how Nansen works, how the labels work.
So Nansen label will actually classify
into two main categories.
Number one would be the wallet behavior,
as well as the wallet performance.
So behavior is based on like on-chain activity,
categorizing based on their behavior,
such as smart money,
are they a Dex trader or NFT collector?
And these labels really help investors
to identify the type of activity a wallet is involved in and identify potentially valuable insights.
And as for the performance side of things,
if you were to scroll any wallet, you wouldn't know what's their historical performance like,
whether they're a good trader, a bad trader, so on and so forth.
And this is where Nansen analyzes the performance historically.
We basically look at whether a wallet are consistently good traders
or maybe just one hit wonders.
So to give an additional explanation into that,
we actually provide this additional lens on top of just looking at
the current state of the wallet.
And for instance, if let's say I see a wallet being labeled
180 day smart trader,
that means that this wallet is profitable in a rough range of 180 days. But if I myself
is slightly more degen, I'm looking at seven days to enter exit a trade, I'll be looking
at a seven day smart trader label on Nansen. And so this really allows me to cater my trading style
and look for other wallets with similar trading styles.
And this in terms make an individual a much better, better trader.
Alright.
It looks like, well, it sounds like it's not just tagging the addresses,
but mapping the behavior and building trust signals over time.
I think I'm definitely not going to disclose my wallet address
because I'm definitely one of those who are just lucky
and have no idea what they're doing.
Sergio, this is why I would advise you to have a,
or consider a nonsense up really and yeah who
knows you might even become a smart trader or nonsense after using nonsense data um yeah thank
you so much sean for your trust and uh also for your cheering up i think what i will do is just continue to follow smart traders through nansen
becoming one seems very far away well never say never all you have to do is yeah consistently
hit a couple of good trades and never know i hope so sir and yeah i mean it definitely sounds like an incredibly useful tool you know um to identify
who's just lucky and who really knows what they're doing um which of course makes things a lot easier
for um all of us who are not very good with trading or we just don't feel comfortable with
trading you know and then you go to the internet and then um you don't know
right you you see like um I often see these um YouTubers who are who do technical analysis you
know and they claim oh we've been earning so so much um in the last whatever period and then you
I don't know a couple of months after you read about them and everything's negative right people call them scams
um because the signals are not good or or whatnot which can mean you know they are just unlucky but
yeah with tools like this one it would definitely be much easier to know who is who and who does
what right um so thank you again um sean you know for for your amazingly detailed uh reply i think
it's more than enough you know for those of us who are listening.
I'm not very technical either.
So, yeah.
And regarding your user base,
who's actually using Nansen today?
Is it like mostly traders?
Do you think it's like, well, I mean,
I'm sure you have some data in the backend, right?
Is it people maybe like me who, oh, we just like to see what others are doing?
Or is it like broader even than what I have just mentioned?
Yeah, I think currently on Nansen, we do have a very wide spectrum of users,
be it like sophisticated traders, crypto native institutionsative institutions and funds, and builders. And one thing that I do notice is that traders really rely on us for real-time on-chain insights
to inform them of their strategies.
And on the institution side, they actually use our tools to monitor market activity,
manage risk, as well as stay ahead of trends.
And as for builders that are working in DeFi protocols,
they use Nansen to better understand user behavior.
Like for instance, what specific wallets are doing.
If let's say they receive an airdrop,
are they buying more or selling?
Or even things like,
oh, do I want to deploy my project on specific chains?
So to answer your question,
we have a wide range of users, the whole
spectrum, be it your insti players or really the day-to-day DGN traders.
Oh wow, yeah it's interesting you know how the same data set can help very
different use cases depending on well simply who's looking at it right and
yeah whether it's just optimizing
trides um or designing better products or as you said you know launching on a certain chain or
another yeah i was um i think you know i always see it from from my pov and um yeah one probably
never realizes you know how it works from other angles.
So thank you so much, Sean, for sharing that with us.
Yeah, sorry?
No, I was just, yeah, all good.
Oh, okay. Yeah, cool.
And have you seen any kind of unexpected
or really creative use cases for the platform?
Yeah, happy to share one of my personal recent experiences uh on nansen so something that's currently in the works we are
actually looking to develop a mobile research agent where you can really just key in into telegram
like hey i'm looking for this token or tell me more about this token tell me what smart
money is currently buying so i actually tried stress testing it and gave it a very specific
prompt of oh give me a sub 100k meme coin on solana what would it be and follow up by asking
it actually gave me a list of like i think think, five tokens. And I prompted it like, okay, true this list provided,
which has the highest probability of achieving profits.
And it came to a conclusion based on on-chain insights.
I did punt a little bit into it,
and it did hit like 2-3x within, I think, a couple of hours,
which I managed to sell before it eventually dumped.
So yeah, pretty interesting use case
that we are testing out this mobile agent
and on-chain data is able to claw like
this token has a high probability of being profitable.
Oh, wow.
I mean, yeah, using Nansen to meme coin hunting.
I thought the platform wouldn't be that fast.
But yeah, I love how, you know,
you're trying different things with the tool,
making it stronger.
And yeah, definitely speeds the depth,
you know, you're building into the platform.
If you can share those strategies,
we would really highly appreciate it.
For sure.
Fun, fun random fact.
Just today, we actually launched our mcp agent uh where basically
it's clogged or cursor with unanswered integration so yeah you get to start interacting with it as if
it's like your it's like your trading agent per se where you can just interact with it and say hey
i'm looking for this
help me with this things like that so just launched today so i think it will make trading a lot simpler
moving forward oh good yeah we will definitely tap into that um take some notes you know and i'll
definitely ask you about this um and yeah um we you know are now shifting a little bit the gears to the market which is always
interesting uh especially now that well we seem to be in a bull market and well um kind of an
improvised question um sean what do you think of the current market well i mean ptc touch 130k again
Well, I mean, PTC touched $130K again, if it's looking really, really nice.
I think the current market, I dare say, yeah, we are in a bull market as for what the data supports.
I think memes are still relatively active with a lot of new coins running rampant.
I'm not sure if you were around during the 2021 cycle where it's the NFT cycle.
I'm not sure if you were around during the 2021 cycle,
where it's the NFT cycle,
Oh, yeah.
where there's a ton of fake NFT collections,
like say, Pajri Penguins launch,
and then the next moment,
there's like 20 new derivatives coming out.
I do see similar trends on the meme coin side of things,
where if let's say,
Doge Moon pumps,
then you see like Moon Doge,
M Doge,
and all the other derivatives pumping as well
so we do see a similar
trend in that sense
and it's
yeah
the attention span
seems to be really
really short these days
where narratives
really can just swap
within
couple of hours even
like there was
one time it was
the Mudang
and all the other
cute animals
then after it went
to the AI agent
sort of things
so yeah
the attention span of the space has,
it seems to have grown significantly shorter.
Yeah, I always thought I had short attention span
until, you know, this meme coins frenzy like hit.
And I was like, I can't keep up.
Like literally, you know, I can't keep up.
I think I'm just old, um sorry i'm i'm very sure
that we're around the same age so i'm very sure you're not old unless you are saying that i'm old
then you know my problem is honestly and i think you were around in the 2021 boom as well is um i'm used to having something
to read having like some time to you know process things and and then having some time also to
process and hey i need to sell before i i you know it starts to dump right now that doesn't seem to be you know the case like um you had to be in and out really quick
um and i'm the kind of person you know who who just holds you know like the kind of diamond
hands um philosophy that uh well i mean back in the day you know it was uh like was the strategy
right and i feel like it's it's been very challenging for me i don't know about you
yeah it's honestly similar for me because i saw a stat that day that i think the average
holding time of a meme coin in the past year was like four seconds or something along the lines
it was some like ridiculous number that made me realize like,
damn, in four seconds,
maybe my transaction has not even been processed
and yet,
someone is already
dumping on me.
So, yeah,
I don't think it's a you problem.
It's just the state of space
where the attention span
seems to be really,
really short.
Yeah, just a fun fact.
I often, you know,
tell this to some of my friends
so they know how I am.
And I'm still holding some tokens from 2017, 2018.
The project even died.
I participated in ICOs back then.
And I still have them in my wallet.
Damn.
You're not a holder, sir.
You're a community member.
Yeah, man. So, yeah, sometimes I'm like, wow, how did I manage? damn yeah you're not a holder so you're a community member yeah man so um yeah sometimes
i'm even like wow you know how did i manage to to like hold it for so long um so yeah just uh
things happen and then well i made some bad decisions and i sold some that um later on just
skyrocketed uh but yeah that's life i guess that's life yeah in any case um yeah thank you for you
know for the market observations um sean and if you were to pick uh or to bet i don't know which
is the you know the right word but what would be like your your choice for like the current you know behavior and trends that
are standing out in the market my current take if you could pick just one well if i could pick one
hyperliquid oh okay yeah i mean the way that number one Hyperliquid did the airdrop, I think it was impressive
of the revenue buyback model.
Personally, we use the DEX back when they even announced a points program or anything
of that sort.
So I was a super OG hype user.
And yeah, I do see the cult in Hyperliquid that has developed.
And it's something that is very commendable, really.
Like you have people with like unrealized seven figure P&L,
and yet they are still holding on to their tokens that they were airdrop from day one.
So you have this cult as well as a very successful business model.
I think these are recipes for a great um great ecosystem to thrive
well interesting yeah and um well we seem to be in that kind of rapid experimentation phase again
and yeah there's a lot of noise of course but uh also potential if you know where to look at
which seems to be sean's case um so make sure you follow you know what sean does
and well but yeah i mean it just
feels like we've circled back to a more chaotic but also exciting market landscape right and
yeah we will see where um this takes us to and well if you want to keep up um make sure you give the nansen platform you know a look and well um another
question that i have on the platform performance um sean with all the volume the volatility you
know and then all the noise and in all the and whatnot, how do you ensure that data remains accurate and reliable?
Yeah, that's a great question.
A couple of years ago, we actually rebuilt our entire Nansen2 stack.
So whenever a brand new token shows up in the product within seconds,
and yet nothing reaches users until we survive like
automated sanity checks.
And this leads back to one of our 400 million auditable wallet labels.
Our data engineering team, which is frankly one of the best in crypto, tracks latency
as hard as a SLA and quarantines anything that fails this validation.
And this is how we stay both the fastest and most accurate
data analytics platform oh okay i mean that's impressive um i'm kind of speechless to be
honest i wasn't expecting um that of a strict sanity check pipeline and um because you know i
i thought nansen would just be tracking the data and yeah it's it's easy to
underestimate how complex it is to stay fast but at the same time stay correct in crypto right because
um well often you know if you if you go too fast then you just don't have the material time right
to to like okay, what's
this? What am I doing in here?
As I was saying, back in the day, okay,
many of them turn out to be scans, but
at least you had something to read and
something to check.
Yeah, at that point of time, there was
a lot more leeway to make research
decisions before you
ape into a token, for instance.
But now it's like like it's either you
pull the trigger now or you're going to miss a 10x so it is really that speed of reaction which is
something that i think nanda is incredibly good at where yeah we present to you the data i would
say nearly instantaneous after it hits the chain oh wow yet it's it has that degree of accuracy
nice and yeah i believe all that you say, you know,
you're the one who has the data and who reads it.
So yeah, I'm sure what you say is what's happening, right?
Right in the current market.
And well, also I wanted to say props to the data team
for, you know, building that kind of resilience.
No, resilience.
Sorry, it's a new word that i just learned and i really
like it um and um well thanks again you know um sean um now moving to a question that involves
us anchor um i have a question that comes from the community from our community
and because people often ask how anchor
is helping project behind the scenes you know especially um i think in this case it's really
interesting um it's infrastructure heavy ones like nansen right so um yeah can you tell us a
little bit more about the relationship and what kind of value it brings to Nansen you know and also confirm it's not just
logo x logo thank you so much yeah for sure i think that's a great question and we love to
talk about infrastructure because it often gets overlooked but i dare say it is mission critical
to everything that we do so anchor actually powers a large part of Nansen's
blockchain data access layer.
And we rely on UGuys RPC services to fetch real-time
on-chain data from multiple blockchains.
And these RPC endpoints are what let us query transaction data,
token movements, smart contract events, and really all the rich
information that you'll see over on the Nansen dashboards.
Anchor provides a very highly reliable
and scalable node infrastructure,
which I would say is extremely essential
for a platform like Nansen
that we actually ingest billions of data points daily
and serves a global user base in real time.
And yeah, so behind the scenes,
you guys ensure that the Nansen user,
wherever they load like a token page,
they can be able to look at this data reliability
without like any bottlenecks or downtime.
We would love to hear from your point of view though.
Yeah, I mean, I love that.
And thank you so much, Sean, for highlighting
how much infrastructure matters you know and for reminding
that i think it's often you know i don't want to say forgotten but it's often ignored because it's
it's all happening in the back end right um so yeah it's hard for i would say the the user
right to grasp that and yeah but if that layer breaks um everything else slows down of
course or fails right depending on how many providers you have and one thing that uh well
I believe we are still doing right is at anchor is that we don't have this kind of exclusivity close on contracts, so you can have as many backups as you would like.
So yeah, I believe that's best practice, you know.
And well, really glad to hear that Anchor's making that layer seem less
for your team and of course also your users.
And yeah, to everyone who's listening if uh you're looking
to current transaction data you know the token movements and smart contract events you know that
sean mentioned you can also get uh started um with a freemium account actually you don't have to you know pay to use our services but of course
um if you go premium then you have better limits and more methods and you know more chains they
can query and whatnot um because some chains you know are are quite expensive also for for us uh
we need to well support them with the enough hardware. Some others are a little bit lighter.
But yeah, enough of talking about Anchor.
Now, we're looking ahead a little bit, Sean, on what's to come.
How do you see the blockchain analytics evolving over let's say the next few years
yeah i think currently if we look at the whole industry uh at least from nansen's perspective
we do see this tug of war between transparency and privacy we see companies and organizations
out there becoming slightly more sophisticated in masking their activities. They're becoming smarter and smarter.
And there's actually more and more projects emerging to help mask all these on-chain activities.
So tools like Nansen will actually just keep getting better and better to analyze these
movements quicker and more accurately.
And on top of that, I shared earlier about like say, there's a shift in the way we interact with trading.
I do believe, personally,
that one day trading will be as simple
as us using ChatGPT today.
Like, really just keeping in certain prompts.
And on-chain analytics will become
a slightly more curated experience,
similar to how, now, if let's say I mention, say,
Jewelry, and the next moment my Instagram,
my TikTok
acts will start boosting me these ads, I dare say on-chain analytics can become a more curated
experience in this sense. So yeah accessibility and curations are probably some of the core themes
along with the integrations moving forward. All right, yeah that makes sense. And I have a kind of a follow-up question, Sean. When you talk about masking the activities, what's that about?
Yeah, I think nowadays if we were to look at the way some of the traders do things, whenever they add into specific tokens for instance and in size they know that the moment
they start selling this on chain it becomes very prominent and it causes like price reaction
the cascading action of that so what i've seen couple of influencers do before they dump the
token as they are shilling it to you will be to transfer their tokens from one wallet to a fresh
wallet before dumping it so these are just like tiny ways that people are trying to mask their activity on chain.
But thanks to Nansen's AI capabilities, we actually get to identify these
related wallets really, really quickly and to label it as a related wallet.
Oh, OK, OK, that makes sense.
Yeah, it's good to hear that uh we are heading toward a
more customized right and conversational kind of um ai powered analytics experience um which is
good um i think you know with with all the new ai chatbots and the new ai tools um we are lacking
the new ai chatbots and the new ai tools um we are lacking more and more the skills to just
search for information and it's happening to me um you know now i just go and ask chat gpt
instead of googling or i just definitely um go to gemini or i stick with the um so i don't know
if you so i think it's only implemented in some areas. But so Google is now just sending you back a Gemini response when you make a search.
So many people are just sticking to that instead of visiting, you know, one result after another.
And that's definitely happening with me.
Yeah, I see that all the time really nowadays on google
it just makes research a ton easier instead of like having to click on five different web pages
it just close all these data together and presents it to you in a very um consumable format yeah
definitely and you know with what nansen is doing and integrating you know all these tools
it yeah it sounds like a kind of a massive unlock like and you know things are now only not only
or just for crypto pros quote unquote um but also for new users right trying to understand what's going on in the space and reason I quote
unquote pros is because I think you know in the current state of the crypto market you never
actually become a pro there's always something new you know and and well I mean I have fallen
behind 100 um so yeah I think it's a challenging for for everyone right
to to keep up but yeah good to know we have more and more um tools and you know um this non-center
is integrating and keeping up with innovation uh that's great and um yeah and finally i have um one more question for you uh sean and whoa um for the
audience if you have a question for sean feel free to send in in as a comment or just request to
speak or well if you would just like to say hello to sean whatnot um yeah we have covered a lot of
ground today i think but yeah if you have any questions, please request to speak before we head off.
And finally, any exciting features, partnerships you can tease for us?
Any alpha that you can share?
Well, I think an alpha, I wouldn't consider alpha per se,
but maybe I would love to highlight some of the features
that we've recently launched that is slightly often overlooked,
but personally use it on a day-to-day basis, extremely useful.
We do have an XAI insight.
So if let's say I were to search like say Pengu on Nansen,
on top of on-chain insights, in a single click, I am able to see
who's speaking about this on X, what's the sentiment like, and
it gives a conclusion.
We also pretty recently integrated like token unlocks.
So within our token god mode, you will be able to see like, oh,
when is the next unlock happening?
Who are, what's the amount being unlocked?
As well as our P&L leaderboard, which yeah, it's personally revolutionary because I can
really very quickly see how profitable a wallet is.
What's the win rate?
What's the average ROI?
And upcoming next, we do have this mobile agent that we are looking to launch pretty soon so
data from like with platform like clawed and cursor you can hint things like oh find me a
good meme coin to add into this is my risk profile and becomes a really really interactive
experience to your trading so it's no longer of you like manually looking at the data, manually looking at the trade.
This makes it a lot more interactive and easier to,
yeah, instead of having to like do your research yourself,
through this Research Asia, it actually makes things a lot easier.
And something upcoming we are looking to do.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with our smart alerts.
Nansu Smart Alerts allows you to have been notified whenever,
like say, Ethereum Foundation moves funds,
but still currently a pretty manual process
where I would have to click in and like,
oh, set whenever if transfers more than say,
a hundred thousand to a fresh wallet.
Now we are experimenting with this new feature called an AI Smart Alert Agent,
where you can just key in like,
notify me whenever and if ICO participant moves their funds.
And then you'll come up with the whole Smart Alert
and you'll get notified instantly,
directly to your Telegram, your Slack, your Discord,
wherever this transaction happens.
Oh, that sounds very interesting.
And on top of this,
oh, sorry, one last point.
But yeah, we've pretty recently launched
Nassen Points where users can stake,
subscribe, and refer friends.
And Season 1, I believe,
is ending in September,
where that's when Season 2 comes out.
And yeah, for our listeners in the crowd,
please don't forget to activate your points
and claim premium perks from partners like Bybit, Coincko delphi and a lot more and if you're interested to learn more do
check out the pin post in our profile again yeah um if you're interested to learn more actually um
that the pin post is pinned in this session as well so uh it's as easy as just one click or one tap and yeah sorry
for um interrupting sean i thought you were you were ready uh you're done and uh yeah the smart
alerts sound really interesting um i always get this kind of um similar alerts from from the
exchanges you know where i have an account or whatnot but to be honest i think um there's a
bit of a lack of customization you know like i would be like to be informed of i don't know
certain tokens or um like kind of customize this alerts and yeah it's really good that you
that you have that yep appreciate that sir joe and yeah i think the thing that we are trying
or rather the problem that we are trying to tackle is to improve the user experience and make it really as easy as as if you are interacting with
another person yeah great um we had some let me check okay we had some requests um i would just
onboard them in the meantime let me just check
but yeah there's um definitely so much happening and you know it's exciting to see that the
analyses are becoming more and more interactive and then yeah um also great to see that your
gaming finds out with the point system and um i guess there are some rewards but uh yeah I will definitely keep an eye on all these new tools
um so hello uh connect
you can speak now but you need to unmute yourself first um if you have a question for Sean yeah
please uh you know just connect and and speak hello jim guys hey jim
please uh you know just connect and speak
i have a question for financing yeah please go on um
I don't know if there's actually a point system for now because I think earlier this year, I stick some token on now.
i don't know if there's actually a point system for now because i think
And I don't think I've been seeing any point system since I've been checking.
So I know someone's active.
Maybe I'm the one that is not checking it very well or there's no point system yet for people that stick.
That's just my question.
Yeah, happy to take this question, Conak.
So do click on the pin tweet in the spaces and activate your points.
As long as you are staked with Nansen,
as long as it's one of those supported tokens that are in Season 1,
you will receive points.
Feel free to drop us an email or join our Discord
if you face any issues.
Myself or any of the customer support team
will be happy to assist you.
Okay, I hope that answers your question.
And yeah, that tweet that Sean mentioned
is actually pinned in the session as
well so it's as easy just as um getting in there um yeah to check and yeah hopefully we you know
make it easier and otherwise yeah please you know just follow nansen give them a follow give us a follow of course as well and um yeah just let me i went
through the okay we see a question for nansen oh from oax deep cuts so one what are the data
points that nansen uses for the signal yep i think data points that Nansen uses for signal, our generic signals, our AI signals,
we actually surface abnormalities happening in the space.
So if you were to go to Nansen's website, you will see this tab called signals.
And this surfaces extraordinary happenings on-chain.
So for instance, in the past 24 hours,
there's been an increase in transfers of
if that is like 10 times the usual average.
So it really surfaces abnormalities in the space,
things happening on-chain that are out of the norm.
So these are data points that we are using.
More accurately, I would say we rely
pretty heavily on historical data
and use this to determine if let's say a wallet is profitable if a wallet's performance is like
is this an nft trader is this a dex trader nice um so deep cards as a second question which is do
you see mobi screener as a competitor? Yep, I'm
going to be completely honest. Prior to
this, I did not see,
I've not heard of Mobi Screener before.
I'm looking at the platform and it does
remind me a little bit of that
screener. We'll probably have to
look a little deeper to see.
But yeah, I think Nansen
in itself stands out in many ways.
Be it the labels, our points program,
and end of the day, we are trying to present data
in the cleanest way possible with the best user experience.
Wow, well said.
And yeah, third is a compliment,
is regarding your accent, Sean.
His accent is amazing, where you're from.
Yeah, well, Sean, during the very beginning of the session,
Sean introduced himself and, yeah, mentioned he's from Singapore.
But, yeah, Sean, if you have anything else to add?
Yep, I think my final closing statement would be, yeah.
Oh, sorry, I meant for regarding the question from ox deep cuts oh my
my bad my bad well yeah my bad sorry for your compliment and yeah happy to chat more
all right cool um yeah i think uh you know and i love uh i have some friends from Singapore that I made um you know in in this amazing uh wet three and crypto
you know um well I don't know if you call it industry or world uh but yeah and I definitely
love you know Sean's accent as well reminds me very much of my friends and um also um I love
uh the vocabulary that's used in Singapore.
You know, very formal, very polite, always trying to learn from them.
Thank you very much, Sir Joey. It has honestly been a pleasure speaking to you as well.
Definitely, man. Same, same.
And yeah, I think we have another comment let me just check oh um this question comes from venia
and she's asking i can stake with nansen on hyperliquid right yes that's correct you can
either visit uh state dot nansen dot ai or even true nonsense uh true hyperliquid itself in the
vaults you can just select Nansen as the validator
i believe it's Nansen x Hypercollective or the other way around that is the validator that
Nansen is running for Hyperliquid and yeah if you want to get a clickable link definitely join
join Sean in their discord community and you know there i'm sure that uh sean will be able to
provide a well direct link to to the platform um sometimes it's really hard to just remember you
know all the links and exactly you know the spelling and whatnot so yeah thank you sean for
that um and well if uh we don't have any more questions,
I think that'll be a wrap for today's episode.
And hopefully, you know, I can let Sean leave in the agreed time.
Again, a big thanks to Sean and the Nansen team for joining us
and sharing such a reach inside into the world of um on-chain intelligence
right and uh it's definitely a tool that uh i'm gonna check um after you know all the insights
from today and i'll probably have some questions as well um i will join discord um once uh well i
get started with the platform um and as always if you enjoyed this episode you know be
sure to well give us a follow and check out our our spotlights with the partners it's um yeah um
lovely conversations you know similar to the ones uh to the one today with sean i think we
um somehow always managed to get good people in in the partner spotlights which is great
somehow always manage to get good people in in the partner spotlights which is great um if you're
curious about how anchor supports your favorite web feed tools just like how we do with nansen
you can learn more at anchor.com and sean before we let you go we always um like to give our guests
the final word um any you know it can be a closing thought it can be a shout out it can be
some advice for you know everyone that's in crypto or the newcomers um advice maybe for your younger
self i mean the mic is all yours well i think first and foremost sergio thank you so much to
you and the anchor team for having nonsense on your spaces was really a so much to you and the Anchor team for having Nansen on your spaces.
It was really a pleasure speaking to you as well as sharing some of my thoughts in the space.
I would say my closing statement would be, check out Nansen points.
If you do have tokens that are lying around, not generating yield for you,
why not stick with Nansen?
And while doing that, you can actually incur Nansen points.
And this unlocks other benefits from our partners,
such as CoinGecko, Delphi, Velo,
just to name a couple.
So yeah, thank you so much for having me.
It was a pleasure speaking to you.
And Sergio, if you are coming to Singapore
during token 2049,
please feel free to hit me up.
Happy to take you out for a meal.
Wow, I really appreciate that man unfortunately um not the case this time but uh yeah if i ever visit i would definitely you
know um send you a dm really appreciate that and um yeah thank you again um sean for your time you
know thanks for um being here Thanks for the amazing conversation.
I really, really, you know, generally enjoyed it.
And yeah, to the audience, same, same.
Thank you for your time today, you know,
and thank you for tuning in.
Until next time, guys.
And well, stay curious, you know,
and if you need some data,
remember to visit Nansen for on-chain data.
Thanks, Sergio. Thank you again, again sir and have a nice day. You too. Bye bye. Bye everyone take care.
