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Payments on Aptos
Recorded: July 29, 2025 Duration: 0:52:40Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent Spookspace discussion, Orbital Pay unveiled its innovative CreatorLinks feature, enabling creators to monetize their profiles effortlessly. The conversation highlighted the growing trend of the creator economy in crypto, the integration of fiat off-ramps, and the strategic partnerships aimed at enhancing user adoption. As the crypto payment landscape evolves, Orbital Pay is positioned to bridge the gap between Web2 and Web3, driving significant growth in the sector.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. hello and gm gm gm guys um you know i've been thinking through all our guests and some of the chillest people
that have ever had on spookspace asked to be deep cheats from orbital pay discussing payments which
is such a breeze and i hope today space follows suit i think there's a big announcement for today
but if you want to hear the big announcements you would have to hang on and listen in on the space.
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let's go gmgm everyone welcome to spookspace and this week we are going to be discussing payments on Naptos and there's nobody better to be discussing payments with than OrbitalP.
GM GM are you guys doing who's behind the mic today?
Hey hey so it's me Debjit again, again. We are doing great. How are you? Yo, I'm doing awesome, awesome, awesome.
Looks like we're having a slow start to the space.
Well, it's cool that the space is recorded
so anybody that finds it can come in and listen in.
So I guess nobody's going to miss out on all the alphas.
You know, since the last time we spoke to you,
I think the last time we spoke to you, I think the last time we spoke to you,
Orbital Pay was still on Testnet.
That's when we're speaking to Orbital Pay on the last Spookspace.
I would like to know how the journey has been launching Mainnet, interacting with the community so far.
What's the journey been like for you guys up to now? Yes. So we went live on Mainnet for a few weeks now, and the response has been very good,
actually. So the community is, of course, a big part of it. And just to get like, again,
Orbital Pay is payments and payments is everyday life, right? So we are always designing things
based on what the community says,
what the community wants to use, how they want to pay, and we are just very observant about the
usual opinion about our product in the eyes of the community. A very interesting use case that
many people seem to have is creators such as you.
is creators such as you.
One example of monetizing your voice
or monetizing your profile,
be that Twitter, be that YouTube,
any, literally any profile,
is creators often use a payments link, right?
For tips, for one-way payment sort of thing.
For example, we have buy me coffee,
we have tip me, those kinds of thing. For example, we have BuyMeCoffee, we have TipMe,
those kinds of things.
So creators who are comfortable with crypto,
creators who want to take that tip in crypto
can now do that using OrbitalPay.
So we have launched a new product,
a new feature called CreatorLinks,
using which you can essentially just copy a
link from orbital page website and paste that in your bio.
And anyone can pay from any chain in USDC, be that Ethereum, be that Solana,
be that whichever wallet the user has funds on, they'll be able to tip you
or send you funds using that payment, using that profile link.
And we call that creator links.
And for a long time,
this was in development for quite some time,
but it was always in closed beta.
It was never really a feature that the public in
general could get to use.
Last week, we made this feature in GA.
We made it generally available and now anyone can
join Orbitl Pay as a means of taking payments or
taking tips for your profile for your
voice and for your community yo awesome awesome you know the moment you spoke about creators i
think this has become the creator era in crypto if we talk about trends this has been the trend
for creators we have more than ever creators have been rewarded. And some people even say more rewarded than testers.
Amazing that we've come full circle to that point.
And definitely Orbital Pay coming in
to make sure payments can be transparent and easy
is a beautiful addition to everything Orbital Pay has.
But I know the Orbital Pay is way more
than just a Web3 payment system.
The last time we spoke on Spookspace, you spoke about how you also support in real life payments,
and you already have partners in this regard.
From then till now, what side of Orbital Pay would you say has maybe contributed more to use in on in orbital pay generally would you say you are receiving more
users from in real life uh um customers or web3 native individuals right uh so not a lot of real
okay so when i say real life i would say people who use, what do you call it, the currencies issued by nations, right?
So USD or INR or your Nigerian local currency, these kinds of things.
So the only reason we are not seeing that traffic, in fact, most of all of the traffic is people who are crypto native, is till since the last time we spoke we did not have
fiat rails associated with orbital pay and that is another thing that's changing very soon we are
in the final phase of integrating off ramps and we are also planning to integrate off ramps very
soon but we are starting with off ramps uh like we are in the final phase of testing already. What that will help you is, for example, a business or a creator or any person in general,
whenever they receive money on Orbital Pay, they can associate their Orbital Pay account
to a bank.
So you can, like once a month, once a week or whenever and wherever you want, you can
directly send all your funds from Orbital Pay into your bank account.
It's straight to your local bank account.
So for you, it will be your local currency.
For me, it will be my local currency.
And this is one of the features that I think
will really bridge the difference between Web2 and Web3.
The reason being many of the creators or many of the businesses,
while the business itself or the creator themselves may be comfortable with Web3 or comfortable with crypto in general, their audience might not be.
Or the other way around, for example, businesses, many of the businesses that we are working with or many of the creators, they might have a Web2 voice or a normal, like non crypto voice, but many
of their audience, many of their customers may be exposed to crypto, right?
What off ramp enables is to help web two voices or web two merchants to allow purchase or
to allow sending money in crypto from their users.
But the merchants or creators themselves never have
to care about the fact that it's crypto they don't have to do off ramps themselves they don't have to
go to a million centralized exchanges or stuff in order to convert they can just click the cash out
button on orbital pay and the money is in their own bank and i think that's the real place where
you know orbital pay's adoption will increase to Web3
or the normal people that you mentioned,
the non-Web3 native people that you mentioned.
Oh, man.
Deepjit said normal people like all of us on space are not.
I would stand my ground.
All of us are DJs and we are.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, man. I love it. I love it. But, us are DJs and we are... Oh my goodness. Oh, and I love it.
I love it.
But, you know, more and more,
we are seeing a need for...
We are seeing a major need for ease
in off-ramps and on-ramps.
I know I work closely with Flick Predictions
and they are doing something really exciting,
but they are now targeting a huge majority of non-web3
individuals and this is like i think this has been the biggest epic that they currently have
in trying to find how can we service these people because a lot of them don't understand yes it's
beautiful that we have things like aptos connects now, okay, you probably don't need a seed phrase or worry about losing your seed phrase or somebody having to explain to you what the seed phrase is.
Yeah, and now you can maybe just connect with your Google account.
And it's lovely to see that Orbital Pay is doing the same in that regard.
But still, there's the issue of how will I fund this account how can i get my fiat currency
on chain uh and you know it's crazy that up till now the the only way that i think we've been able
to figure this out is by directing majority of them through by bits and i i really think it's something that we really need to solve soon.
I think it's a country issue.
Because I think Orbital Pay currently already offers on-ramp and off-ramp in certain countries, right?
We are finalizing the testing.
So it will be out next week.
Oh, awesome, awesome, awesome and and what country are we
talking about okay so initially we are starting with southeast asian countries and we are very
soon for example we just do it one by one right so essentially we our partner supports multiple
countries but in order to give in order to give us give users this certainty we are testing out every single country in order.
So we'll start with Southeast Asia
and then we'll move into Africa.
Oh, let's go.
Let's go, let's go.
I don't know if you saw the yellow card announcements
from Aptos.
Yeah, I think it was about three weeks ago now.
Did you see that?
I did not actually.
Oh, okay.
I'm probably going to go find
something on that so i think yellow card is this um on ramp and off ramp system that currently
exists in nigeria and other african countries and after kind of partnered with them to facilitate
after us kind of partnered with them to facilitate payments if i'm not mistaken i'm going to find
where the partnership suite was posted i probably won't be able to find it on this space but yeah
maybe i'll just share that with you later okay i think i found something but yeah it's really cool
to uh see more and more that ease is going towards payments. And another thing I was really burning
to discuss with you on this space is confidential transactions. You know, for someone that already
supports Web2 businesses in terms of payments, have you ever come across like a situation where these these maybe corporations
or businesses are skeptical because the um everything on chain is so transparent
um we have never faced that issue um okay so most of the businesses we uh who talk to us about this
is mostly about the compliance side of things
actually so they are like give me the exact proof of where the fund originated from give me like
for example they want more transparency as if that was ever a problem uh but i have never heard about
the too much transparency side of the equation oh okay i i think maybe this this this makes sense
to me my head because i know there are corporations that maybe don't want order employees to know how
much and a particular employee is earning i know this is one of the biggest talks in every office
when everybody's like uh it shouldn't be any more it shouldn't be any more
than me yeah so things like that so i i definitely see the need for like uh maybe not completely but
in some cases there needs to be confidential transactions where just to allow peace ring
and maybe i know everybody's so confident with people tracing their funds
because like right now i can easily find out uh what sneezy.apt is holding and maybe copy trading
or something but yeah i i do at the moment does orbital pay allow transactions to be traced like trace back to the origin so orbital pay
itself does not have trace backs but we do give you the transaction hash so using that you can
just go to the explorer trace yourself uh but we as a platform we are not a tracing platform so
we don't serve tools for that specific use case. Oh, awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah.
So now talking about like,
because AppTOS has introduced confidential transactions and maybe it's still on
DevNet. Yes, I believe it's still on DevNet.
So maybe not adjustments are still being made and eventually maybe it will be rolled out for the community
and for businesses and anybody
in the payment section.
But Orbital Pay is already
in the payment section. Do you think
there could be a need for
such a tool in Orbital Pay?
I'm not
sure. So again, our
approach to development is
very community driven and if the community wants it, we will enable confidential transaction and that will not be default. For starters, you can enable it during payments people asking for it, specifically on Orbital Pay.
But if people do, yeah, we will make that a reality.
Okay.
And now, something I saw really fun on your ex-accounts, just I think about an hour.
You already know what I want to talk about.
About an hour ago.
And it's a question actually it says what if you could
purchase your own virtual debit card directly from Orbital Pay you know I think this is really
interesting because we have seen a lot of stuff like this earlier earlier this week or was it
maybe before this week there was also an announcement from PayPal that PayPal is now going to be supporting crypto payments for certain stores.
Yo, because this made me really bullish, I would really love a card that just facilitates me making payments directly from my maybe Orbital Pay account from the Aptos blockchain.
But yeah, are we brainstorming here or is something actually cooking um i think that announcement
is for a new ama but just imagine that you can have a virtual card using which you can directly
spend your balances from your orbital account for For example, you're a creator, right? You get money through creator links.
You get money through people paying you.
And you can have a card which you can directly pay using.
You don't have to worry about off ramps.
You don't have to worry about getting that money in your bank.
But just imagine such a future.
But again, the announcement is for a different AMA.
Oh, awesome.
And as I remember, Orbital Pay is non-custodial, right. Yo, awesome. And as I remember,
Orbital Pay is non-custodial, right?
Yes, it is.
Oh, interesting.
So definitely not holding any cash. I was going to talk about tracking for Orbital Pay
because more and more,
I think one source of huge publicity
for a lot of Aptos protocols
has been like them being accessible
or being trackable by platforms like DeFi, Lama
and the rest of those.
Because I would like to know more details
on what the volume happening behind Orbital P is like
and just maybe the user growth of Orbital P.
Is there any way we can access this kind of data?
Right.
So this is something that we have thought about ourselves.
And we want to make these kinds of metrics live.
We actually want to reward people who are doing more transactions on OrbitalPay,
who are using OrbitalPay pay more and we thought a more
transparent way of doing that would be to just public publicize the leaderboards publicize all
our metrics in a dashboard sort of form where you can see which account is making how many
transactions their volumes and stuff but that is still a work in progress oh yeah i see and i think Oh yeah, I see. And I think that's going to be definitely one to look out for, especially now that we are in the creator era but I'm not sure I've come across any campaign from
orbital pay till now are there currently any campaigns running or can we look forward to
something dropping in the future yes yes we are actually working on the rewards and incentives
mechanism right now and we will make an announcement very soon but people who will use orbit pay more are yeah i mean people our
community our core users we definitely will keep them in mind whenever we are distributing rewards
and stuff but in fact the reward mechanism is for them uh but yes it is a work in progress
we'll hear about it very very soon and this is by the way this is along with the dashboard and
metrics thing so everything ties into one currently we't have campaigns, but we will not be using, like, in, for majority,
80% of the cases, we will not be using an external platform for it, like any of the
existing ones.
But we will mostly be having our own in-house, like, in-built mechanisms for rewards and
incentives.
Yeah, awesome, awesome.
And I mean, we already have Orbital Pay facilitating
creator payments now, but more and more personally,
I would like to see Orbital Pay begin to facilitate
a lot of Web3, huge protocol payments.
Let's talk about like the DeFi platforms,
all these employees, and maybe even after
i think that i think that would be really really interesting to see that yes yes so uh what do you
think is going to because i know a lot of these um a lot of these bodies do not necessarily pay employees on chain.
I might be wrong, but from what I've heard,
I know a lot of huge Web3 corporations,
because of legal clarity,
usually undo employee payments off chain.
Do you think...
It depends actually.
Okay, so I'll give you an example.
There are many, many companies, big established companies in the Ethereum ecosystem, for example,
who I know when paying out employees, they give them an option.
Do you want to take it in crypto or do you want to take it like, you know, in fiat?
And the crypto part especially is very, very country driven. For example, in European countries like Germany or France, you have the law, right?
You have to disclose crypto income even if you are not off-ramping it.
For countries such as, what do you call it, Nigeria, for India, many Southeast Asian countries, this particular law is not there.
countries this particular law is not there so you only have to disclose crypto income once
they are off ramp or once it's converted to um you know uh the local currency uh so these are
the complications that companies usually don't have to deal with but many of the legality around
the world is moving towards uh the holder of the crypto needing to disclose uh these things uh for example the employees it's
the burden is on the employees in order to disclose the earnings um so that's why companies feel more
comfortable in paying out their employees in crypto uh on the company's own accounting issue
that you talked about um in many countries like companies in us companies most companies in europe they i mean they can just
include crypto as part of their accounting the laws are very transparent they're a bit restrictive
i have to add but they are at least they are clear on where they stand so these regulatory issues or
these hesitant like the hesitation by companies is reducing very very fast there are many companies
who pay out in crypto but of course yeah the full transformation takes time awesome and uh okay
before we talk about shelby because i would like to know what orbital pay thinks that shelby can
uh would i say bring to orbital pay and all the amazing things Orbital Pay
already has, I would like us to
walk through the
step-by-step process of
how an individual or a
creator in this case can
use Orbital Pay to monetize
their contents on chain.
I see there's a thread on this.
It's already pinned to the Jumbotron for anybody
that would like to have a deeper read.
But yeah, just maybe walk us through this.
You don't need a thread for this.
Let me say it in one sentence.
You log into Orbital Pay and you copy your creator link.
Done.
We make it that easy.
Ooh, I see.
Okay, so from the point of the person paying, when they they click on this link what's going to happen right uh so let's uh for example suppose you go to your profile uh on orbital pay and you
you go to the creator slash merchant page and you copy the creator link right and you paste that
in your profile i visit your profile i click that link i directly am faced with the gateway of orbital babe so there i see
your name and there i see a message box where i can optionally write a description for why i'm
paying you and i get the option of paying like wallet connections for all chains so all like six
evm like ethereum based uh polygon avalanche um arbitrum optimism solana sui aptos the list goes on
oh and does this person making payments i have to create an account
no no no absolutely not that person just needs to have usdc on any chain any wallet
okay i think that is amazing uh this profile by, by the way, this is persistent. So when you just have a profile link in your bio, people can pay you how many times they want.
Unlike the payment gateway links we used to have earlier, which were one-time use, these profile links are eternal.
So you can have just one link which represents you, your account on Orbital Pay and your identity, essentially.
Oh, I see why you said you can just have this in your bio to accept payments anytime.
Exactly.
Oh, I think that's really awesome.
And now talking about Shelby.
Shelby has been exciting for everybody.
Talk about auth storage on chain.
I don't think it has happened anywhere.
And even now, I'm still looking forward to how this is going to happen in Web3
because this is something very ambitious I think Aptos is attempting.
But so far, I've been learning more and more that auth storage is way more than just storing stuff is useful in AI and even inventory and talk about streaming services.
Just really exciting across board.
I'd like to know what you feel like Shelby is bringing to payments or in what ways you think Orbital Pay can use Shelby?
Oh, looks like we lost Zipjit there.
Yo, but anyway, I am excited about Shelby coming in.
Maybe when DeepJet comes in, we're going to hear what his thoughts are around Shelby.
But on the last piece we had with Shelby on Spooks, it was really exciting to see that we are going to have more insights sooner rather than later.
I think everybody's anticipating this. I
personally would like to see how migration of existing storage already
happens. The exciting things like the pay-to-view that I'm still wondering how
this is going to function because it feels like there's going to be constant
payments going on behind the scene but Pranev like there's going to be constant payments going on behind the scene
but uh pranav says this is going to be seamless and definitely not going to affect the slow the
flow of shelby definitely not slowing it down in any way um so but payments on aptos has been
looking really exciting shout out to the aptos. Another exciting part for payments we've seen is the Dora Axe.
I don't know.
I think everybody has been talking about this.
So if you've not seen this, you've probably not been checking the Aptos piece.
This was yesterday when Aptos announced that there is 100k on the line.
I think this is called Control plus Move.
And one of the key areas for DoraX is in payments.
And what DoraX will be looking for in payments in terms of...
Give me a second now.
So we are talking about global remittance and P2P payments,
apps using stablecoins.
I think this is really important.
Today, I was seriously brainstorming out to off-ramp from Aptos
without going through Bybit.
And it was a lot of mental stress.
Still brainstorming.
I haven't found the solution yet.
Up next, something else on payments we have
onchain forex payroll
or treasury
management tools
I think this is where OrbitalPay is
heavily involved
and I'm seeing more and more exciting
innovations coming from them
talk about creator payments now available
but looks like
divjit is back zivjit we lost you a bit hey hey yeah yes yes i was trying to log back in
okay um have you had a look at shelby yet i have oh what do you think i think it was
a long time coming so for example whenever you have to store something,
okay, let's start from the ground up, right? So in Aptos, in Move, the language specifically,
everything is an object. So essentially, everything is an NFT. It's represented as an NFT
on chain. So your balance is an NFT, your liquidity pool is an nft that you can think of it as that
way and i think having a representation of that in the form of storage was for example many many
tokens have a uh an image right many many nfts all nfts have an image you can have uh you can
you often need to store things in a in a more like persistent way it would and on
chain is too expensive i think shelby is a really really necessary product but yes i mean from the
orbital pay standpoint it's of course not uh that relevant but as a standalone feature yes it's it
was a long time for me yeah um and i think it's just something that's going to eventually work hand in hand with everything
that eventually you should be.
And Orbital Pay is very positioned for that.
Let's talk about when streaming service is available.
How is payment supposed to go on here?
And that's what I'm really looking forward to when we have more on and off ramp feature
from Orbital Pay.
I think because this is actually going to be really huge.
Think about how if we eventually,
when we, I'm not even going to say if we,
when we eventually have like a streaming service on Aptos,
and obviously we are now attracting a lot of Web2 viewers,
a lot of participants that know
nothing about web 3 or even setting up a wallet um there's going to be a need for ease on and
off ramping maybe just on ramping or maybe just even payments and now i think that is where it's
going to be really awesome to have things like OrbitLP just come in and fill that gap.
But I think you've been on mainnet now, I think long enough to understand what the community wants
and what OrbitLP needs to bring to go to that next level.
Like with everything that has happened up till now on mainnet,
what do you see coming next for Orital Pay before the year runs out?
Fiat support. So you were spot on when you mentioned more and more Web2 people need to come onto on-chain, right?
More Web2 people should feel easier making payments on-chain.
So that's where our next target lies we want to erase the gap between
crypto and fiat so essentially someone can pay someone else in crypto or fiat whichever they
want and the receiver will receive crypto or fiat whichever recipient wants so we want this barrier
of conversion we want this uh intent of uh or the burden of conversion of on the user we want to
remove that entirely so that anyone be them uh a fiat user be them a crypto net native user they
don't feel that barrier when they are transacting with each other and i think that's where mainstream
adoption lies oh my but when you talk about fiat i feel because of the complexities
in regulation from country to country i feel it's going to be focused on select countries are we
still talking uh asia and africa for now for uh of course everything starts somewhere. So we are using those countries to start, but we will expand.
So it's in our interest to have it in all countries, right?
So we have the access to most, all of the users.
So it's always a trial on our part.
We're always putting in efforts to be compliant, to be available in more and more countries.
But of course, it's a work in progress.
And we just know that we are on it.
Awesome.
And I mean, if you know how much I'm begging for this feature to be available right now,
I think it's slowing down a lot of innovation.
When I think about the opportunities that the average
nigerian can get if there is a seamless payment a seamless on and off ramping available to them
um i i think it would really do the people a lot of good and now this is just talking from
the everyday person there's so much that aptos offers and that um um the blockchain offers that people are really
missing out on and i'll really just like to see these issues like resolved soon but anyway thank
you orbital pay thank you deep jets for coming on spookspace today i think the creator payments um
monetizing your content is a huge part i i look forward to seeing more creators use this
and i look forward to you guys putting up a campaign around this so uh kind of would i say
force users to try this out because people don't know what they are missing i mean they really do
not know what they are missing until like they see how easy this is. And maybe even the collaboration with the collective
will be really cool on this.
But yeah, once again, thank you, Deepjit.
We'll be closing the space.
I don't know if you have any final remarks
for the audience, any way they can reach you,
anybody looking to try out a specialized form of payments,
how they can connect with you and so on.
They can join our community we'll
be posting the link in uh the chat box give me a sec okay so i'm i'm just going to give divjit a
second to to share where we can best connect with them um i believe there is a discord right
there is no discord currently it's on telegram but yeah i mean as the community grows we'll have
a dedicated discord awesome awesome so for now if you want to connect with orbital pay
you would have to go through the telegram community um okay yeah nice i'm going to
pin this to the jumbotron for anybody that comes in to listen to the space after we close so nobody
misses that as well so feel free to go there if you have any questions honestly i think digit is
one of the coolest persons to talk to so you're good yeah definitely going to have all your
questions answered in in record time also yeah thank you guys so much for coming on spookspace
today it's going to be another amazing one waiting for you next week just uh stay tuned
but for now oh okay i might need to hold on a bit I saw a legend just step in in Chris Kim
but getting ready to close the space and let's see if he's going to come up I
really like to see what he thinks about payments you know let's go let's go yo
Chris if you're hearing us let's see if you can come up let's see if
you can come up we're about to close the space we are holding out for you talk about putting
pressure on him man yeah shout out to you welcome to aptos i think your your introductory video was super awesome oh he's up he's up he's up hey yo chris welcome welcome to aptos you know i feel like i know you already after watching that
video it was i would say that's been one of the best intros into like coming into aptos you
already shared your journey and i hope we can have a dedicated space for you
soon here on spookspace just get the community to know you a bit better talk about your journey
even though you already shared a lot on that in that video but yeah um how's the feeling how are
you feeling uh joining the team working with greg yeah that the, I appreciate you watch the video. It was a 10 minute video.
And after I recorded that I realized, oh man, I should have probably spoke less here. Not
a lot of people have 10 minutes to spare. But yeah, like the support and the welcome
that I got today and last night has just been amazing. You know, I'm just sharing that I'm just joining,
but the entire community kind of welcomed me
and took me as their own.
So I really appreciate the community.
The reason why I posted that video is because like you said,
like I wanna connect with the community and I'm new here.
And I wanna just tell people who I am, where I want to connect with the community and I'm new here and I want to just tell people
who I am, where I come from, kind of just share my journey and my story and why I'm excited about
Aptos and why I joined. And I think those things matter, like those type of communications matter
and you know I'm here at DevRel and what I'm passionate about is developer acquisition and developer education. And I don't come from a CS background, although I am, Deverell.
And I'm always struggling with imposter syndrome, right?
Coding is scary.
And I think a lot of people share this feeling, especially in the blockchain space, because there's so much friction, so much new things, innovations happening. And I feel like a lot of developers feel like they don't know
enough or, you know, they need to study more before they dive in. But I want to demystify
this whole space for developers, because if I can do stuff here, then anyone can. That's something
I truly believe in. So here at Daptos, I really wanna focus
on creating a lot of video content,
just doing code walkthroughs of just getting started,
how to use the developer tools that Aptos Labs has built.
And the tools that Aptos Labs has already created,
and they're really impressive.
Coming from a different protocol and ecosystem,
for a chain that's been around for,
I think, two, three years now,
to have such a robust suite of developer tools,
it really shows how much respect
and it shows that the Apt Atlas Labs understands the importance of the
orders and empowering empowering them with all these tools to help them build
the next big thing right so yeah I'm super excited to be here I just saw
Baba's post and that's why I joined I'm sorry I joined late I had a meeting and
I was just like catching up on stuff I wish i joined a bit earlier and got to hear um orbital play talk about payments
on aptos but i'll listen on the recording yo yo i mean um you showing up means a lot you know in
that post i said i already have a good feeling about you. And I really do because I felt like I connected with you on that post.
And maybe we are going to have you just a space dedicated to you on Spooks here.
Because I think more people should hear about your journey.
And you're talking about imposter syndrome.
I think everybody that really strives for perfection kind of as that
you always feel like there's more you should be doing there's more you can do and the beautiful
side of having someone like you there also means you can relate to people that are going through
that process and i would say one of the best ways
for people to learn is on the job many people won't agree with that but i think it's cool it's
cool to learn on the job i'm someone that personally i learn more when i do stuff practically
than through videos and stuff i must do it it myself before it sticks to me.
So I really look forward to those contents,
those walkthrough contents that you're already thinking of creating.
I think they're going to be super helpful, especially to people that have been struggling to start their dev journey.
Because there are so many people that have said,
oh, I'm definitely going to learn Move.
They probably still haven't learned Move now.
So yeah, I already feel
connected to you. Look forward
to everything you're bringing to Aptos.
And once again, welcome, man.
I really
appreciate that spook.
That's kind of why I'm here.
I want to be that bridge between developers
and the engineers behind
the tools that we build.
Because the engineers, they're amazing and they've already built amazing tools, but
at the end of the day, it's going to be the developers out there who are going to be
using these tools to build stuff, right? So it's important to hear their feedback and the friction
points that they face while they're building and kind of relay that those feedback back to the
engineers here at Atops Labs so that they can make those tools even better. So I really want to act
as that bridge so that's why I wanted to connect with the community more and I'm going to be
reaching out to some OG builders so definitely if definitely if you know anyone that I should be getting in contact with, just let me know in the Twitter DMs or to comment on some of my posts to say, hey, you should talk to this guy or that guy.
I want to learn as much as I can.
And I'm technically a new Movedev as well.
So I'm going to be going through all those guides on the dev portal.
Anyways, so yeah, super excited.
Thank you so much for the warm up.
Okay, so but to close it out, we are on the payments on AfterSpace.
So I think it's only fair that I get your thoughts on what you think the gap is up to now in like crypto payments and what the most possible solution is.
I know it's a big question, Jack.
Yeah, that is a big question.
Payments on blockchain is one of the most obvious use case.
But like you said, there are a lot of gaps to be used in the real world.
I think one thing that's missing right now is that people who pay, use those online payment
services, expect customer support, expect their, you know, if something goes wrong, they know that there is something
that's going to revert the transaction.
So like they don't lose funds on a mistake or someone,
I don't know, that's something sketchy.
That it's, I believe it's quite still not solved
in the blockchain space in that aspect.
Blockchain is a technology that supports transactions natively, which is amazing.
But these transactions are irreversible.
And there aren't a lot of safety nets for the end user to feel safe and secure to use on-chain payments.
So I think those are the things that need to be solved.
Another thing is a more adoption of stablecoin.
We can't expect people to pay stuff in volatile assets like Aptos, Bitcoin.
These change in price.
And not a lot of people are familiar with volatile assets.
They're used to just dealing with fiat currency
that they believe doesn't change in value,
but it actually does under the hood, right?
But they don't really understand that,
oh, like a currency can change in value.
So stablecoin is that middle ground that makes sense for the end user.
And I think that's what I'm bullish on Aptos is because Aptos has been doubling down on stablecoins recently.
And it shows that Aptos understands this, right?
And Aptos is trying to become the global trading engine and be the financial infrastructure for the world.
So stablecoin adoption, stablecoin support integration
is crucial in my opinion.
Yo, you know, you hit some points
that I never really thought of.
And I think it all boils down to fear.
Crypto is still kind of scary so people need um people need a guide they need to feel like there's a safety net for them they
need to feel like um if i click this button i'm not losing everything and uh i think more and more
like safeguards need to be put in place and like even advertise that
oh you shouldn't be so worried about how it was before and now talk about people focusing on
security as well and yeah definitely people do not want to be making payments of one each today
and five each tomorrow i mean make it make sense so we need a bit of stability and that's
where stablecoin definitely comes in shout out to orbital pay orbital pay is a payment solution
currently on the aptos blockchain and they're utilizing usdc by usdc natively on aptos so merchants can create a custom link where uh whoever wants to maybe
employ their service can make payments to them directly through this link and the person doesn't
need to set up an account and it's super easy from every chain and i think this is awesome
uh yes i i think i just shared a brief on ofvitalpi, but I think you can also just listen.
But thank you so much, Chris, for coming.
I'm going to definitely be in your DMs
to talk about setting up a future space with you.
So if you guys don't want to miss Chris,
definitely turn on post notifications
for when that is going to drop.
Thank you guys so much for coming.
It's Spookspace.
We are going to be with you guys next week, 4 p.m. UTC.
Don't miss it.
For now, bye, everybody.
