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$PEPE 🐸 $SNEK 🐍 Memecoins and Security
Recorded: May 7, 2023 Duration: 2:25:12Space Recording
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Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening.
Yo, what's up, everybody? What's up?
Gemscope. This is MemeCoins and Security.
I'm driving right now. I'm almost home, so I hope my connection doesn't get a little spotty here.
But, man, I'm excited for this space.
Yo, big quick reminder for everybody.
If you're tapped in already, we just started.
Hit that retweet button. Quote retweet button.
Let everybody know that it's going down here today.
We got Pepe. We got MemeCoins. We got Snack, which is pretty interesting.
Cardano MemeCoin happening right now.
So, yo, I'm excited for the space.
I'm excited also, like, with so many new people coming into, you know, Web3 right now.
With everything going on with Pepe and all that stuff, I feel like it's also a really important time to educate, you know, people on how to stay safe.
So we keep that nice, open-door policy out here.
But, man, Chiba King, it's dope to be up here with you co-hosting.
How's your day going, man?
The day's going good.
I woke up a little cold.
I think it's allergies plus whatever the hell else is going around in the air.
But I have my lovely grandmother making me lunch.
She's making me a hamburger with some potatoes.
So we should be all right in a little bit.
But other than that, it's a beautiful day here in New Jersey slash New York City.
So we're just going to have some good conversations.
I'm big on security, and I've traded a lot of meme tokens in my career.
So I felt like this is a good space for us to have a good conversation.
But I'll play some music.
We'll let some more people settle in.
I'm going to play a little Drake.
Invite your friends.
Tell them we're having a good conversation.
And, yeah, let's get to it.
I need someone to be patient with me.
Someone to get money when I take it from me.
They don't even need to be as famous as me.
I don't think I'll meet them at the places I be.
But deep down, I think about you all day, mommy.
I know I'm a pit bull, but dolly, mommy.
I don't want to take you on a holiday, mommy.
Say what's on your mind, I'm going to call away, mommy.
Come and rescue me.
Take me out of the club.
Take me out of the trap.
Take me off the market.
Take me off the map.
I'm trying to hit the group chat.
Tell them it's a come and rescue me.
Take me out of the club.
Take me out of the trap.
Take me off the market.
Take me off the map.
I'm trying to hit the group chat.
Tell them it's a rep.
I didn't come this far just to come this far and not be happy.
Okay.
Remember that.
You didn't come this far just to come this far.
Yep.
I saw it on the internet.
I don't really know how to confess my love.
Really saying that God won't attest my love for you.
Don't know how to express my love.
That's why I'm American Express.
All right, we have a request to play this Pepe song.
So we're going to switch gears to this bad boy.
I haven't even heard this yet.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Get it after just a season when we believe.
Shit it when I have to tell her.
Gramm and moves away.
My house be chasing bags.
They be running through a maze.
I'm amazed.
They might have to look at the interface.
I don't ever kill my house.
I put their letters in a grave.
Got my girlfriend that put that baby on the blockchain.
Told me, listen, clearly.
You best hodl you that Pepe.
Protect her garden like I'm dim day.
Every night I see them childhood boy that trips and be my fane.
Pepe, pepe, pepe me every day.
Bruh, boy, they really try to put Pepe's here to stay.
To the moon, boy.
Pepe, pepe, pepe me every day.
You can cope.
You can see.
Pepe, pepe really here to stay.
That's actually fire.
You tell me that some computer made that?
Oh, man.
Our actual musicians in the world are in trouble here.
Um, yeah.
Good morning, good morning.
It's absolutely wild to me, Sheba.
Yo, AI is crazy these days.
I haven't even dabbled with it yet, but I've seen some crazy stuff come out of it already
between a lot of people that I know.
I mean, even people in Web3 came up to me like, you should, like, write things using AI.
I'm like, everything I talk about, I say off the top of my head.
I never write anything.
I never go by any dots or anything.
It just goes off the top of my head, so I don't know.
But it'd be really cool.
I gotta mess with it.
It's really interesting.
What up, Dave?
What up?
Um, the sneak.
I'm gonna mess that up.
It's like snake, but it's not.
It's like sneak.
So, I'll probably mess that up a few times.
But we have a really cool crowd here.
I see Ash.
I see some Nakamillos.
I see some apes across many different communities.
Shout out to everybody that's here on a Sunday to hang out with us.
Invite your friends to this.
This is a good conversation.
We're gonna talk about Pepe.
Maybe I'll do some light charting.
I'm no financial advisor, but I can read candles.
We're gonna talk about some meme coins and obviously security.
There's a lot of people that have been getting absolutely wrecked lately because they're simply
just buying these coins through their multiple wallets and it's a huge problem.
So, make sure you're buying these coins through a single wallet.
That's like step one.
Like if you're gonna buy, even Pepe, I know it's still fairly new and it's a little bit
safer than a lot of the other meme coins that are out there.
But you gotta be careful, guys.
You should not be unloading a lot of these meme coins into the same wallet you have your
$50,000 worth of Pepe in.
So, that's definitely a 101.
But what do you think, King?
Have you dabbled to any of these coins yet?
Absolutely.
So, you know, obviously being, you know, Pepe Piat Club out here, we gotta dial in on
our Pepe.
And I feel like, you know, a lot of the community within Pepe Piat Club, we got in pretty early.
But, you know, the conviction is strong.
With a lot of these meme coins, you know, the value is, you know, in simplest terms, like
the value that, you know, a community places within it.
You know, like the comprehensible value that everybody, you know, whether it's holders
or, you know, just everybody getting behind a token to establish, you know, its potential
in the future.
And we've already seen what tokens like Doge and SHIB and stuff like that can do, you
know, just simply being Pepe, you know, the culture that surrounds that character and all
the possibilities to come with that.
You know, that's why so many people are so bullish because, you know, the culture is
there, the community is already there.
And we see that come in strides across, you know, different social platforms and Telegram
on Twitter and stuff like that.
So absolutely, you know, definitely secure that Pepe bag, in my opinion.
It's always, you know, a good idea to follow, you know, those, you know, certain marketing
strategies to making sure that you're reducing your risk and dollar cost average and all that
good stuff.
But Pepe is definitely a strong one.
I haven't messed around with too many others.
You know, there's a lot of, you know, kind of indicators that I go by if I'm going to
throw money at something.
And it's so tough to know in the early stages of things.
But at the same time, like, you know, we talk about, I know we're going to talk about
SNEC today.
And it's very intriguing, man.
It's definitely, there's a lot of potential in the different things you see coming up around
the space.
So I am an investor for sure, Sheba King.
But, you know, I, I'm very cautious.
I am very, very cautious.
But, and I, and I always encourage others to do the same.
You know, don't just listen to what other people are saying around you on Twitter or
wherever you're getting your information from.
Do your research.
Figure out what those indicators that, you know, other people that are, you know, providing
insight in the space are looking at.
And take a look for yourself, right, Sheba?
You know, it's not too hard to do to pull up these different, you know, tools and kind
of get that information for yourself or compare it to other things that are popping up.
But, yeah, it's been a bunch of fun this season, right?
I'd have to agree with you.
It's been, like, this is a segue in from, like, January till now.
You know, we had a pretty dead NFT market, crypto market.
We pivoted into, like, February, March, where we had a nice influx of buying coming into
NFTs, and we kind of thought there would be a rally, and then that ended, and we went
right into meme coin season.
Like, literally, the last two weeks have been meme coins just because of Pepe.
And I know we'll talk about Pepe a little bit more here.
I know I've been following it.
Oh, Jesus.
I've been following it really religiously since it's been up.
So what are we like?
We're not even 30 days old on this, are we?
Or maybe we're exactly 30 days.
We launched on the 17th of last month.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, watching it break through the early resistance.
Now, I want to compare Pepe to Bonk, because I thought Bonk was going to be, like, something
like Shiba.
I thought it was just going to be, like, the next meme coin to go off, but it didn't make
it out of the startup gate, pretty much.
Like, it did that nice early jump.
People rallied in.
It was all over Twitter.
Everybody was talking about it.
And then it started dumping, and then everybody dumped on it.
So then it never got a chance to recover.
So I'm just trying to, like, I didn't feel like Pepe was going to make it out of it either,
personally.
I know it had a lot of meme behind it.
I know there's a lot of people on Twitter that are like, oh, it's going to break it.
It's going to get through it.
It's going to develop as a coin, and it really did.
And it broke out of, like, several bull flags.
I mean, every pattern it made, it hit it tech-wise very, very well.
I mean, there were some pullbacks, like, I'll use the last 24 hours as an example.
The pullback that it had in the last 24 hours, it dipped below, like, that support.
But when it dipped, it recovered pretty well, around, like, that 230 mark.
How low did we go here?
Yeah, 233.
And the low point for that green candle earlier that week was around 200.
So we pretty much almost got to the bottom of that full green candle that we end up doing.
When was this?
Fifth.
So it's been a lot of volume, literally billions of dollars, one to two billion dollars in volume
a day.
Even the red candle that came after that was somewhere between two and three billion.
Like, that's just insane.
So, and then we just started seeing all these other coins.
I know there's so many to talk about, just the genre across Twitter.
I've seen a handful of them.
We've seen a handful of rugs, too.
So I know that there's a soul token that's doing pretty well.
I think it's actually called King.
I know there's a Cordano token here, which I wasn't aware about.
I'm not really paying attention to other chains.
But that's very interesting to see development in a mean coin somewhere else.
You know, we always say, oh, does it have to be on Ether?
Is this the only place?
No, I definitely don't think there is.
But you definitely have to be cautious when you're jumping in this stuff, especially early.
So my advice would, if you're scared to dabble into it, just average costs.
Go in small.
Don't go on hype.
People who bought it, like PepeCoin at 435, just don't do that stuff like that.
Don't jump in hype.
You know, it's been going off for a week and a half.
I personally wouldn't be buying anything up 3,000%.
I don't care if it's going 3,000% all the way.
It's like for the next week, I don't care to miss profits.
You know, there's going to be other coins that do well.
But definitely very interesting because it does bring light to the market.
You know, as much as we want it to be more than just Pepe on Twitter, it's bringing Google searches to crypto.
It's bringing Google searches to PepeCoin.
It's giving more people knowledge on wallets and how to exchange it.
I mean, I know people are like, when is it going to get added to Coinbase?
It really doesn't need to be added to Coinbase.
It's already in Coinbase wallet.
You can literally convert it right now.
Like, you don't have to wait for Coinbase.
If people are waiting for Coinbase to be the catalyst, I think you're going to be mistaken here.
I think that it will grow naturally very well with some of these other coins across these other chains.
And Pepe might do better just because it has more of a forefront.
But I don't personally see it going to zero at this point because there's so many people that are heavily involved in it.
But definitely have to be cautious on some of the stuff that comes out.
Anyway, speaking of that, Dave and you making me crazy, feel free to jump in.
Hands up.
You know, you can jump into the conversation and be a part of it.
But go ahead, Kim.
I was going to say, I think you making me crazy is up here.
Security Go definitely going to dial us in.
So that's a nice segue, especially kind of getting going in the space right here.
Super, super important that, you know, like we've kind of been saying here, whatever you're doing in the space, make sure that you're, you know, finding the right contracts, you know, finding the right, you know, direction and all that stuff.
Because we don't want to see anybody get their wallets strained or anything.
One of the biggest things about a decentralized market like this is it's your responsibility to make sure that your assets are safe.
And that's the absolute first thing you should be doing before anything is making sure that you're educated on how to stay safe in the space, how to make sure that your wallets are secured and all that stuff.
So we do have you making me crazy up here.
Security Go.
Do you want to dial in the room on some of those, you know, key security aspects to, you know, make sure that you're adhering to when you get into, you know, meme coin season?
Yeah, 100%.
Thank you for the invite.
First of all, Shiva, what's going on?
King, been a long time, man.
Misha, bud, how are you doing?
I was surprised when I saw you come up, man.
But we have some history here.
I've known you making me since like month three in my NFT world.
So we're talking 2021, early 2022.
But, yeah, he's a very smart guy.
But it's good to see you, bud.
I miss you.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, I miss everyone, dude.
Look, I've been working so hard lately.
I have not had time to breathe or make coherent thoughts, let alone anything else.
But, yeah, like I got shot an invite on Discord.
And, you know, Chemscope said, hey, come through.
So, you know, I had to come through.
I am away from home.
I'm at my mom's house.
We were visiting her.
But, yeah, so some things to look out for, like, one, make sure 100% that you have the
right contract because there's so many imitation pages popping up for literally everything.
Like, there's one that has a gold check that's trying to imitate the real sponge token, and
it is actually a fake.
So you just have to be careful.
Make sure, first of all, you have the right contract.
Next thing, you want to check it on, like, Token Sniffer and Honeypot to make sure that, you know,
most of the things are copacetic.
And then after that, checking on Dex Tools.
Dex Tools gives a really comprehensive breakdown to the left side of the screen of, like, you know,
if they can mint more tokens, if the tokens can be recalled at will, you know,
if the owner or the creator wallet have any tokens that they free minted to themselves, stuff like that.
And then for everything else, I say, like, go to Etherscan.
And if you don't know how to use Etherscan, it'd be a great time to learn.
Honestly, it's not that difficult.
You just type in the token address up at the top or paste it in and then go to the page for the token.
You can see how many holders there are and how much, you know, percentage of the ply each of those holders have.
You can, you know, scroll over to the contract or click on the contract tab.
And that's where you can read a bunch of the cool stuff, like if they've renounced the contract,
if they can retake, which is a new one that I've seen lately.
Some of these tokens have renounced the contracts to make it look aesthetically good to everybody.
But there's a function in the contract that lets them reclaim it at will.
So just be careful of that one that's come out.
I mean, that's pretty much it.
You just and if you don't know enough to, like, figure that stuff out, honestly, just reach out to someone.
Like, I'm sure someone in your circles and I'm in a lot of the circles in this room.
So if you can't figure that stuff out on your own, just shoot somebody a message.
You'd be like, hey, is this coin safe?
That's pretty much all it takes.
You know, it's – man, just the phrase, is this coin safe, it irks me because I feel like none of them are safe.
But when it comes to these coins, it's just put the $30 in, $50, and let it ride.
And if it really starts off well, you know, just be aware – honestly, it's a few days.
I've seen people invest in these tokens on Monday and Thursday they rug and they had, like, a few thousand dollars from 27.
And as much as Pepe is a different version, you know, it went off and then people sold and it went up more and went up more.
So people tend to lean on that.
Like, as much as I hope for my friends to get rich off a meme token, the chance of us getting rich off, you know, back-to-back-to-back-to-back meme tokens after Pepe was made is very rare that it's going to happen.
And I've seen way more rugs in the last few weeks just because of reasons like that.
That contract thing scares the crap out of me.
The fact that people are going back in, messing with the contract, and then, like, honeypotting people.
Like, legitimately, like, the contract opens, you can trade them, and then a few days later it's locked and you can only buy and you can't sell it.
So I've seen that a few times in the past using the word honeypot and, like, all these, like, random coins.
I've seen even, like, NFT projects do something like that back in 2000.
With the tokens, like, another thing they do, and you can't really see it unless you look on the contract specifically, is, like, they set the slippage over 50%, and most websites won't let you set the slippage that high.
So, like, DexTools or anything like that, you can't set the slippage over 50%.
So on those websites, you can't even trade the token.
You literally have to go through the contract, and at that point, like, it's not even worth it.
Like, you're going to get back $2 of the $30 you invested anyway because of taxes.
So, like, you're just like, okay, well, that's $2 they can have.
No, I 100% agree with you.
Even, like, the slippage thing early was a little bit confusing, especially if you have a large amount of a token.
So, like, I've seen people front-run people in trades.
So, like, you have a lot, and you're looking to sell it, and then you put it in, and somebody speeds up theirs, and they get in front of you, then you're paying more.
Like, you're not getting as much or vice versa.
So you've got to be careful with the slippage.
I mean, I'm educated enough to, like, maneuver through it, but if I had a large amount of money and I knew it was swapping it on, like, an unknown token, I knew to take it cautiously because there is obviously bots.
And another example would be, like, even, like, wallet distribution is dumb shady.
We know that exists already in NFTs as it is.
So when it comes to these meme coins, you'll see five, six wallets that have seven, eight, 20% of it.
And then if you go trace the wallets, it's all the same wallet.
It's just split up five, six times.
So as much as I hate doing that separate research and all these tokens, if you're going to invest in them, you're going to have to do it.
Unless you don't care and you're only putting in $50, $100, then, you know, it's all right to risk it.
But if you're going to put in a few thousand, you definitely don't want to take that chance.
Go ahead, Dave.
What's going on?
How are you doing, man?
Hey, thanks for – Jim sent me an invite to this space.
Appreciate the invite.
I wanted to add to what you making me crazy was saying, like, really great points.
And, you know, you should be using the websites he was mentioning, you know, like TokenSniffer and Honeypot.is.
They're really great sites.
However, I will share, like, how I go about trading and, you know, some of the mishaps I've ran into.
If you guys ever use, like, the Dex Live New Pairs bot in Telegram, it'll show you, like, as soon as, like, a token gets liquidity added.
And, you know, if you're trying to be one of the first wallets in, typically you'll, you know, look it up on DexTools.
You'll look it up on there, and it's not always accurate.
So if you're one of the first wallets, just I would, you know, be cautious that some of the information is not being updated immediately.
You know, I've ran into plenty of contracts that look safe looking on DexTools and come to find out they were Honeypots.
You know, Honeypot.is, it did not tell me that it says – so if you go to it immediately after it launches,
it will say, does not seem like a Honeypot, which typically in your mind you'd be like, great, let me put some money in.
However, if it's not renounced yet, you know, that's the moment where they can, you know, raise the sell tax and do those things.
But I did want to touch on one additional thing.
You know, and I won't shill the coin I launched a week and a half ago, but, you know, I want to see meme points going this route
where I set up a multi-sig wallet with the central exchange tokens.
You know, a lot of projects you hop into and you kind of have to trust that that wallet is going to be for that, right?
And I've seen plenty of them in the past where 5% will sit in a wallet that the, you know, developer has control over.
And, you know, they might lose interest.
They might move on.
You know, community might not be, you know, there for them.
And then they just hit the sell button.
So, you know, I hope that it goes the trend that I'm trying to start, which is, you know, set up a multi-sig,
get some well-known people in the space on that, and, you know, bring some more trust and security into those things.
Yeah, I just think there's so many things that you have to check on nowadays that you don't want to be one of the first people into a coin.
And, you know, like, do your research, click on everything you possibly can.
Like, Etherscan is, you know, a safe haven.
Like, you can see everything.
You know, learn what the functions are.
Like, if you look up the contract, you can see who created it.
Like, the developer, the transaction that it was created from, click on that because you'll be able to see what that developer is calling within the contract.
You'll be able to see every single function.
You might not understand it from day one, but start to understand it.
You're going to get wrecked a lot less often.
Definitely educating yourself through the process and don't overbear yourself with information.
Don't try to, like, go to Etherscan and be like, oh, let me just do what they were talking about and spend three hours.
If you do that, you're just going to drive yourself crazy.
I mean, if you want to sit down and do it, be my guest.
I mean, you can definitely come to me.
You can definitely message crazy.
You can guide you through it.
But one of the first things I learned when I came to NFTs is that I had a mint through a contract and stuff like that.
So the reason I did that is because I was tired of fighting with people over gas.
And I was like, there has to be an easier way.
So especially when it comes to these mean coins, you've got to be careful.
Once again, like, reiterating the just knowing what you're buying situation.
Like, if you don't care, then, you know, throw it in, put it in a MetaMask or a Coinbase wallet, and then buy the tokens and leave them there.
But definitely be careful, especially when you're educating people on this, too.
Like, if you're not doing your own research and you're telling Joe Simone actually to go buy the token, you're not really doing the space of service.
So I would love to see something like that, Dave, like you mentioned, a multi-sig.
Because I've been involved with multi-sig wallets for not only NFTs, but for large amounts of monies and projects.
Like, there was, you know, $100K, $200K.
And I'm like, we're going to have the two founders.
I'm like, no, no, no.
You want to have a community manager.
You may want to have a community member.
You want to have, like, five names on that multi-sig.
Like, imagine if Pepe token, this is an example again, had, you know, let's say, I don't know, $100 million in a wallet.
And it had some guy, obviously we don't know his name because he's not fully doxxed.
But then we had 10 random members on Twitter that were signed for that multi-sig.
Obviously, they would have to be talked to.
It's not just like we just give it to them.
But wouldn't that have more of a comfort around, like, just in general, people holding money and, like, where the coin could go?
Because all we think about is when is it going to get rugged?
Like, when I buy something, when I buy a meme coin, like, you've got to watch it.
You've got to lose sleep because you don't know if it's going to go up 100% or go down.
And that's usually how some of these nights go.
So I know a lot of people lost sleep the last week.
And if you think that's something, just wait until the actual bull market comes.
And we have coins like Shiba, Pepe, Dowge, ADA, Stellar.
We're talking about all the OG old coins that are going to go 100% to 500% in 30 days, you know, to two months.
Like, I'm waiting for that moment.
It's going to be definitely interesting to see.
Go ahead, Crazy.
What up?
So I'm not going to shill anything.
I do want to say, Dave, like I saw, you know, active duty in your profile, man.
Kudos to you.
I appreciate everything you've done.
Look, if you don't want to invest in shit coins, if you're too scared, like, if you don't know what to do, look, the company I'm working for is actually officially partnered with the DAV, which is Disabled American Veterans.
Go to their website.
You can donate crypto through the giving block.
You can donate money directly to them through a credit card or anything.
If you want to invest in something and you don't know about shit coins, literally go to the DAV, you know, support those who have supported all of us for however long.
Just throwing that out there.
Let's go.
Is that what you've been working on in the past few months since I've talked to you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We we're actually officially partnered with the DAV.
Like if you go to the website, DAV.org, you'll see us on there.
Um, but yeah, like most of the proceeds from the project that I'm on are going to the DAV in the community.
Like the company itself is keeping very little.
That's very dope.
Crazy.
I like to see you engage not only with Web3, but some real life things also.
It's cool to see not only projects, but people take the, uh, the Web3 vision into the real world.
I think it's a big part of like what we've been doing over the last few months here.
Gentleman with his hand raised.
How are you, sir?
Sal.
Oh, hey, how's it going, guys?
Um, don't have a ton to chime in on security.
I mean, I do.
I did trade quite a bit of the, uh, meme coins and on ETH and got kind of lucky so far.
I didn't have any issues.
Um, we actually have somebody up here who's an expert in security on Cardano.
So I thought it might be interesting to hear from him.
Uh, Jishi, his name is.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
You can bring them up on the jump in, sir.
How are you doing today, man?
Hey, hey, I'm good.
How are you guys?
It's, uh, it's good to hear you guys chatting about this.
Yeah.
So I, I am the founder of security bot, which is a scam prevention discord bot.
It's, uh, I I'm from Cardano primarily myself, but I'm just starting to expand into other chains.
It's because I'm very much of the belief that first of all, web three is going to be multi-chain
no matter what.
And, uh, security should be multi-chain, right?
Just because you're not on Cardano doesn't mean you shouldn't be protected.
But, uh, the number one thing that I think you mentioned that's really relevant, uh, that
was sort of passed over, it's not so much about security.
It's more about, uh, influencers and making sure that you understand what's going on.
If you are tweeting about a token, you have a responsibility to make sure you're not influencing
people in a negative way.
So if you have a big following or even a small following, you are responsible for making
sure that you're not giving them bad information, right?
Like, like, as you mentioned, it's yours fault.
It's, it's, it's on you to make sure that you are sharing positive news.
And the other thing that I want to mention is I know, I don't know how many of you guys
are on Cardano.
And I know a lot of these people are like, Oh, Cardano maxis, yada, yada, yada.
But it's actually really interesting to hear people talk about their experience trading
on ETH because Cardano is designed very differently so that actually all of these tokens are what are
called native assets on the blockchain.
So they're quite literally just like trading any other cryptocurrency on the chain.
It's traded the same as, as, as ADA, the token on Cardano.
So there's no smart contract needed to move these assets around.
So you don't have to worry about getting a malicious token and engaging in a, like, like
making it execute a function that could take stuff out of your wallet or approving bad
contracts or any of that stuff.
Obviously there are still security concerns to be had, right?
Like bad, you know, bad team, stuff like that, clicking bad links.
But if you're looking to trade tokens and meme tokens or any kind of token, really, and you're
worried about not necessarily feeling comfortable with all of the contracts and approving and
disapproving and all that stuff, Cardano might be something worth checking out.
Yeah, there's definitely some things that we're meeting on the other side when it comes
to Cardano.
Go ahead, Mr. Cardano meme coin.
How are you, sir?
It's good to meet you.
Hey guys, how are you?
Do you, do you hear me well?
Yes, we can hear you.
Perfect.
Yeah, first of all, thanks for inviting us and also sorry for my English accent.
My first language is French, so I'll do my best.
And I have some team members here to help me if needed.
Yeah, I just want to say that everything that we have been talking so far, it's kind of why
I decided to create this meme coin on Cardano because as Joshi said, the security on Cardano
is better for trading these types of assets and because you can't have a bad contract that will just
steal the coins from you.
You can see all the transaction right in front in your wallet and it's much easier to keep
based on what is going on.
I think we actually needed a meme coin on Cardano, like a good meme coin.
There's some already, but they're not decentralized as Pepe did.
We wanted to do a fair launch and that's exactly what we did.
So maybe I can talk a bit about the project.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely tell us about it for sure.
Yeah, sure.
Okay, so the snake icon comes from a project which is called ChillCon on Cardano and it's
a trait of an NFT and when it was released about one month ago, everybody was looking at
this snake and it was laughing.
So it created a big move on Twitter, like everybody was tweeting about this snake and just having
fun, which was the first time in many months that we hadn't had this much fun on the chain
actually.
So when I saw that, I thought it had some potential to just take it and do something else.
So in the beginning, I was thinking maybe to do a sub collection of just this particular
snake and add some trait, but I thought it was not funny enough.
So about one and a half week ago, I was looking around on the internet and just checking tools
that we had on the chain.
And I thought that we could create a native token on Cardano in like five minutes.
So it cost me two bucks and I created this, those 76 billion tokens, I received them in
my wallet.
It took five minutes and then I send the picture of those tokens to CryptoBurner account here
and he laughed and we just started from there.
So in two days, I built up the whole branding, built up the web page, sorry, the Twitter.
We came with a Discord, a Telegram and which is funny is that no real meme token have ever
launched on Cardano using like the Ethereum model with like using pre-sale and fair launch.
So I wanted to do that.
So I created a pre-sale for six hours.
The project was like one day's old on the social media and I just sent a link and I asked people,
okay, if you want to participate in this meme coin, I'm going to be sending you guys
50% of the whole supply to whoever you want to be in.
So I said, just send money in that wallet and you'll get your tokens at the pro rata of the
amount that you sent basically.
And that's it.
We ended up having like a bit above 100k ADA, which is like 40k USD in like in six hours.
And then we launched on a DEX.
And we launched actually six, seven days ago.
And we've been number one in trading on the chain, on the whole chain.
We've been number one in the past few days.
Snek actually have about 50% of the whole Cardano trading volume, which is insane.
So that's it.
We've been expanding the team.
And we have like five to 10 people involved at this point.
And yeah, it's been a great journey.
And happy to move it to higher, just want to grow it.
So I'm going to jump in.
It's interesting because we never really seen, I mean, I wouldn't even count Pepe as a token
that kind of like rizzed from the community.
It's more of a, it came off Twitter as a whole.
I feel like a lot of communities got into Pepe.
So this is a good example of just like starting up a meme token, really knowing who's behind it.
I don't know.
When you talk about ADA and how much safer it is, personally, I don't know.
I can't tell the difference.
I haven't dabbled enough in ADA to even be like, oh, you know, it's, you know, is it really better than ETH?
So it sounds like it's, there's not much volume going on in ADA.
And it seems like that this is a very good possibility this token could do well because it has such a good forefront to be just in everybody's eyes on Cardano.
And it's the same way in why Pepe did so well is because it was slammed in front of people's face.
You know, it's like, oh, you have to get it.
You know, it's on every Twitter feed.
It's in every community.
So imagine if you're able to get it to not only spread to Cardano communities, you can get it to go to ETH.
And then you can start accumulating more holders.
I mean, that's the case on how to grow these.
I mean, you don't have to look at the price of them.
But if you grow holder count, you know, $1,000, $5,000, $10,000, you know, then you start seeing it really grow.
And it's not just a coin.
It becomes a community project.
It becomes something that is built over time instead of just launched and rugged.
So it's definitely a more comfortable way to do it for sure.
It's definitely safer.
But I don't know whose hand went up first here.
So I'm just going to go to Sal, then Jay.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
I mean, as cliche as it sounds, you know, it is a good comparison to Pepe, you know, for the on the Cardano side, because it really is that kind of thing that that's that's really rare, you know, where somebody who's well known in the community, you know, launches a meme token and like actually does it right.
You know, you know, he's somebody who like people trust and he did it right.
He took zero percent, you know, to the developing team, you know, immediately put 90 percent, you know, in LP, you know, on the decks.
So, I mean, that's why, you know, I, you know, it's that's why everybody in Cardano is, you know, kind of rallying around it.
Yeah, no, exactly.
The other thing is that it's so I think you mentioned it, Shiba, that it was like so truly a community driven project.
Goofy has just been a fantastic member of the community.
He's been a big member of the Chilled Kongs community.
And he posts really, really great content just about Cardano NFTs in general.
So it's not coming from some random person that's trying to make a million dollars overnight.
It's not coming from a project trying to add on to their profits on top of what they're already making.
It's truly community driven.
And as Sal mentioned, the way that that it was he the only tokens that he got for himself were ones that he bought in the pre-sale.
I'm still mad at you, Goof, for setting it off while I was asleep.
I missed the entire pre-sale.
I slept right through it.
But I'm still holding mine that I got after that.
And and it's truly been community driven.
We've been growing holders every single hour.
We have a bot set up on our server that notifies the holder count every hour.
And it's pretty much there might have been one or two that it goes down a little bit.
But pretty much every single hour it's growing.
This is a truly like grassroots meme coin in a way that you don't see very often.
And it's pretty funny, actually, because Goofy is known in Cardano as like the numbers guy.
Like he's always like posting stats.
So he's kind of like the perfect person to like run like, you know, a project like this.
Hey, guys, how are you all doing?
I just want to add to that.
Like, you know, like what I see and this like snack meme coin is really funny because I don't know.
I'm not really exposed to the ETH world at all.
Maybe I should be.
But and the NFT world that you guys have.
I don't know if you guys have like, you know, tribalism and all that between like ETH projects.
But we have a lot of that on Cardano.
And this meme coin somehow brought all these people from these different NFT communities into this discord.
And like they're just shaking hands.
It's something I've never seen before.
Like some people that I didn't like their takes because, you know, they keep trashing and being negative.
Like they're just out there shaking hands with me and other, you know, communities that like, you know,
where we're pitted against each other by the community members.
So it's just really cool to see.
And like that's basically like most of those people just, you know, coming together and I guess trying to have fun and, you know, making money.
So that's really good to see.
I think we're definitely taking a different route here when it comes to building communities.
Instead of building communities off NFT projects, we're trying it with a meme token.
And I think it really hasn't been done yet.
So it's going to be quite interesting to see how you guys do over, you know, the next few weeks, even into like the bull run and stuff.
You know, if you can really build a community, you know, the floor price will naturally raise on its own.
You know, we've seen that with just growth in numbers.
But it's a different way to do it.
Definitely something you want to get involved in.
Do you have a Discord?
Is it already up top?
I don't see it.
Maybe post a Discord of, you know, the token so people can engage with your community, get to learn a little bit more about you.
At least talk to you guys.
I think talking to people when they talk about like a meme coin or they're like presenting a project,
it's always good to get like the one-on-one personal conversations.
And I usually jump into Discords for that just to get a little bit more conversation with the community
and reason why, you know, they want to work on something like this.
It just seems like you want to build something together that's not, you know, NFT-wise.
I mean, you can always build NFT off this too.
You can always have this token that does really well.
You get a bunch of holders.
You can launch a project.
If you're a holder of the token, you can get airdropped one NFT.
There's so many things that you could do with this, you know, the other way.
When most projects start with NFTs, then they launch a token.
So it's definitely something to watch.
And I definitely have to join your Discord.
I mean, I currently don't own anything outside of ETH and one of my Polygon NFTs.
And people are like, why don't you hold Shiba?
Why don't you own Pepe?
I just don't feel like we're ready for it yet.
I don't think we're in any near of an altcoin season or any type of bull running crypto.
I think what we're just seeing right now is, let me say, the meme coin season where it's just a few of these coins popping off
and it's putting the extra volume in the rest of the market.
And, you know, just to go back on, like, the influencer thing, man, it's so hard to not get involved in, like, the Pepe thing.
Like, obviously, you see them on my glasses now.
It took me about two weeks to put the Pepe on my glasses.
I'm like, I'm not doing it.
I don't want people to think I'm shilling Pepe.
But now it's up enough to where I can be like, okay, now if I wear it, no one's going to think that I'm an influencer.
But I've seen so many other people really just pump coins without any repercussion or thinking.
Like, when I say pump, it's like they tweet it all day, every day, and it's not Pepe.
And I'm not saying there's, like, something wrong with that.
But you've got to think that there's people that follow me.
There's people that follow Jem.
There's people that follow King, crazy.
People that come up here and put in their time, there are people that look at what they buy.
And I know this for a fact.
Even in the current market, I know people, if I go mint one of something, like, why'd you mint that?
Like, what's that community?
And then I'll have a discussion with them for 10 minutes.
Or even with a token, they're like, why the heck would you buy Shiba over Pepe?
Which I bought a little bit last week, but it wasn't that much, which I already sold.
But the reason why is because everybody has their own reasoning to buy things.
You just can't, like, just jump on people and be like, you know, why are you buying this meme token?
I mean, it's a space where you're going to learn and you're going to educate yourself.
You just have to do it safely.
And that's kind of like what this space is about, about the security and meme coins.
If you're going to invest in cryptos or startup cryptos, especially something like an ICO where you're sending somebody money,
which did not work out really well for 17 and 18, and I know I could pull some charts for them.
It was a really shitty time.
People were dropping $500, $2,000 on a website, and then they launched a token and it never came.
So I'm not saying that's what a lot of these tokens are doing.
Jugs.
Jugs.
Yeah, well, outside of the Jugs rug, I mean, that's just an example.
Like, influencers, like a small group of people, and then in three days they rug it.
And that's not the only one.
There's a handful of tokens.
There's at least five that I know that I had friends that were in that went to zero in three days.
So just back to the education.
You can't follow influencers.
You know, just because Shiba tweets about Shiba token doesn't mean go out and buy, you know, 10K in it.
But definitely read some charts.
Definitely educate yourself a little bit.
You know, don't be scared to ask questions, especially to, like, people up here, like Crazy or me,
or if you know somebody that's actively trading these tokens, like, on Cardano, feel free to ask them on their token.
Go ahead, Mr. Snake.
How are you?
I'm tangenting.
Thanks.
Yeah, I just wanted to anchor what the guys just said about onboarding people.
And I feel like this snake meme coin thing has turned from this idea to currently, like, the beginning of a movement on Cardano.
And I feel we can use this opportunity to actually use snake as a vehicle to onboard people from other chains to Cardano.
So it's one of my key focus right now is to build this thing out of Cardano.
So using all the tools that are available outside of the ecosystem that the projects on ETH are using a lot.
So, like, for example, CoinMarketCap, CoinGecko, other centralized exchange, things like that.
And we actually also have a channel in our Discord that is just focused on having an onboarding section.
So we help the folks here that are coming from other blockchains to set them up as their wallets to help them with the different things that we can have in Cardano that it's not necessarily on other chains.
And we also list all the different tools that we have in Cardano for the decks and how to do a swap and things like that.
So where to look for a chart.
So, yeah, it's been our focus to just help people onboard in Cardano.
I think it's an excellent way to do it.
As somebody who doesn't really dabble in, like, other chains, you know, getting into either an NFT project or, in this case, a token, it would be cool to really jump on a community.
That's why I said if you want to get involved in another chain here and get to know these guys, jump on their Discord.
It's right up top.
It's pinned.
It definitely helps with the education side and onboarding.
Go ahead, Mr. Jason.
How are you doing, man?
Yo, GM Kings.
Pretty good.
How are you doing?
Speaking of other chains, I know Cardano has Snake.
Shout out to that.
Solana has King going for it right now.
And I notice you guys are some Kings up here.
It just got listed on BitMart like 10 minutes ago.
I just – I legitimately was in a room yesterday and the day before that.
You know, I'm a part of the Seoul community.
I got involved in November, so I know a little bit about, like, the people over there.
But it's interesting.
This is another example of, you know, a meme token that's not on ETH.
And, you know, they have a really tight-knit community over there on Seoul.
So, you know, if they can really get an onboard people in that community and then move it,
you know, it would be like, oh, you know, let's go to ETH and talk to people and just
make, you know, the connection.
You can really start seeing that grow.
So, I know King.
I've seen it.
I've seen it.
So, shout out to Seoul for producing.
I don't know much about it.
I sat in the room and I was listening, but I like that you guys are coming out with
something a little different.
But it's good to see you, Jace.
Thanks for jumping up.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, it is kind of wild, like, how meme coins onboard.
Like, people don't realize.
Like, they say, like, oh, meme coins have no utility.
There's, like, no points in them.
But they really do onboard.
Like, it'll really take a meme coin sometimes for somebody to check out a new chain.
Or even, like, in real life, friends of mine, like, I tell them crypto, completely uninterested.
I tell them new meme coin, they're like, okay, how do I buy this?
You got to tell me.
Like, right now, though.
You know, we came from an era where we just invested in crypto and just let it ride.
Like, when I invested in altcoins and meme coins, we just put money in and we watched
If it went up 80%, we sold it or converted it to the next meme coin.
You know, coming out of that and coming into what we have now where you can actually build
a coin now.
It's not like you have to jump on it late.
Like, you know, just use Shiba as an example.
Everybody jumping onto that train and being like, you know, why don't we just start up
our own token and name it Shiba King and then just do it the right way.
So I definitely thought about it.
I said, you know, maybe we should just do that.
But, you know, it's good to see people try it.
I know there's some really good people out there.
I know we all like money.
We all want to get rich.
But there's definitely a way to build a token and build an actual community around that token
and then move from there.
Because we did it with NFTs.
It's clearly shown.
Over the last two years, we've built tons of projects generating millions, if not billions
of dollars in sales across multiple chains.
You're telling me we can't do that with a token?
So Pepe is a first good example of what you could do with a community of people.
And that's why I like Pepe.
I don't own it.
I don't have any of it.
This is me saying for transparency.
I just like what it does for Web3.
It's creating a movement.
And it's printing money for tons of people that could use it.
Now, the government, these exchanges, they're going to jump on after.
I don't see Binance sitting on these spaces with us.
They're not going to know about Snake.
They're not going to know about King.
They're not going to know about some of these other tokens until they go up 2,000% after
we're all turning $100 into 50K.
So it's really interesting to see.
If we're able to do this repeatedly with coins like King or Pepe or Snake and we're able to
get five tokens to go up to $1 billion, $2 billion in market cap every month, imagine
what that would do to the supply of everything.
It would just throw everything off whack.
And I think it would really take a lot of governments to be like, I think we're focusing on the
wrong thing here.
So it's definitely cool to see.
I really hope for the best on some of these tokens.
And once again, it comes behind for the people that are in it.
You've got to do the research, the founders, the guys behind the tokens, read EtherScanner.
And if you don't want to do the research, at least find the information where that research
is, either in the Discord or through other people.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
No, you can finish.
You can finish on the thought.
And then I'll go to King and then the gentleman that just came up, W-A-L, I always rip your
name.
I always say it wrong.
You can have it next and then crypto.
Go ahead, Sal.
Sure.
Yeah, I was just going to add on to what you were saying about the people.
And I really think that's the strength of Pepe is that like all the other meme coins that
were created by who knows who.
But Pepe was was like brought out of like the NFT community.
You know, it's a whole different ballgame.
You know, it's the NFT community coming together and, you know, raising something up.
And that's, you know, that's good people.
So I think really think that's the strength behind it.
And I'd love to see more like that.
Absolutely.
I agree, Sal.
You know, community is strength.
Network is strength here in Web3.
And I feel like that's, you know, one of those things that really took Pepe to the top 100%.
Not only the like notoriety of the character in general, but, you know, just the strength
of the community that immediately stands behind it.
It's crazy to see the amount of volume going into some of the meme coins on different chains,
like taking up a majority of the volume on that on that chain in general.
And it shows like that is an incredible showcase of the demand into, you know, into Web3.
But, you know, it's also a big responsibility for us.
Like what Sheba was talking about is there is shady stuff.
I mean, kind of back to security.
But there's shady people in the space that aren't in it for the right reasons.
And you definitely have to make sure that you're paying attention to those things and
not jumping into anything.
Because, yeah, we saw the Juggs thing.
There's a ton of other stuff that goes on within the space.
Look at those key indicators.
Look at, you know, what's going on behind the scenes the best that you can.
Being on like, you know, as a founder in the space, being on the other side of things,
it is, you know, almost eye-opening how much BS there is that goes on behind the scenes.
How many people offer you services that are just not organic whatsoever.
And, you know, we take a strong stand against it here, like within our ecosystem.
But, you know, I know for the fact that, you know, if I have this many people reaching
out to me for this service, that there is people out there taking advantage of it.
And that's not what we need in Web3.
That's not going to push, you know, true value and foundations within these tokens where we're
actually going to be able to continue to build.
And also, while it's on my mind, it was mentioned earlier about multi-sigs and, you know, the extra
security aspect that that adds.
If I'm not mistaken, Pepe did transfer their like 6.9% allocation over to a multi-sig wallet.
So, I don't know, another one of those things that, you know, well, you like to see especially
Pepe taking moves like that, you know, to value security and, you know, you know, respect
to the community and the investors so that they can feel, you know, more secure with their
investments as well.
But passing it over to, it's Wally, is it?
Yeah, it's Wally Liberace, man.
Come on, King, man.
And Sheba King, man.
Wally Liberace.
Wally Liberace.
What's going on, my Kings?
What's up?
What's up, man?
Everything is all good, my brothers.
And if it's sisters up here on the floor, then my sisters too.
But I came in at the right point when, I think it was my guy down there named Crypto Burner
Account, and he was talking about how this has been more like everybody now is shaking
hands that haven't shook hands and, you know, kumbaya and all of that type of stuff.
And that's the same type of time we are on.
And, you know, and I see that you guys are on too.
So I'm just here to say this real quick, that, you know, I have onboarded and done a
very good onboarding by doing this, by, because of this Pei Pei, and onboarded an artist named
AI the Artist, okay?
This AI the Artist, he created, for people that are seeing, he's the one that created
the Not Drake and Not Kanye song, okay?
And we are doing this, and we have put in and brought together for this guy to someone
that is not even comfortable with being who they are, that has to use AI to be as an artistry
to come in here and be introduced to Web3 to do that stuff, to make a great project that
also brings back to holders in Pei Pei all to be, all of this information and stuff to
be taken by somebody named Pauly that has taken our song, taken all of our stuff, and
and is using it to pump his bag as if Drake really did this song.
And we are a community of people that is using this to bring in things together as a whole,
brother and sisters, and we're doing this for each other.
And now we have somebody that is this influencer that has taken our song and hasn't given no
shout out on none of our stuff and to keep acting like he don't know who has done the
song when I know I have went into the room to play it, do all types of things, and show
the support and also wanted to gift that man one.
And then now instead of being a part of like saying the NFT community is the people who
you know created this and then bring it all back into the Pei Pei ecosystem, a person rather
take something and say they did something with Drake.
So I'm just here to say that and I will pin that up to the top so people will know what's
going on.
And I didn't want to bring a bad vibe, but I am bringing a good vibe to let you know,
yes, we are about community with this Pei Pei thing.
We're bringing in people, you know, a whole type of different way.
And we're going to the moon because we are community that's making this happen.
When they ask who the founders, we are the ones that say we are the founders, we are
the founders.
It's like we are the ones that's making this happen.
And we just can't let just one person start taking a lot of this work that we're putting
out here in these Twitter streets, bring it to themselves as if they're the ones that's
doing this.
So I just came to say that real quick.
And I hope that I wasn't disrespectful.
And I hope that I absolutely agree that, you know, you know, we should be embracing
and empowering like the sub communities that come up from, you know, whatever culture is
that place in the market at the time, like Pei is so strong.
Pei has always been so strong.
You know, as far as I go, Pei has kind of always been alpha here in Web3.
I mean, we talked about like original Bitcoin, NFTs and like all this different stuff.
Um, Pei always been alpha, but you, you need to embrace and empower the communities that
are, you know, building based off of like that culture.
And that's how you continue to become stronger.
And people will say stuff like NFTs are dead at this very moment or whatever you want to
say.
But these are like the more in-depth communities, the more in-depth ecosystems in Web3 that you'll
find more people taking that extra step into once they get that like initial introduction
through a meme coin.
Like you want to stand behind a community that, um, is on top of the alpha is on top of the
charting or is on top of, you know, communicating with each other, finding their network on, you
know, other things that they can potentially invest in, in the space or simply just having
fun, memeing out, creating content.
Then you're going to step into like, you know, maybe a more PFP associated directed, directed
project like Pepe Yacht Club so that, you know, you have something to stand behind.
You have more accesses with your, you know, you're with your presence in the space and
all that stuff.
So I like that you brought that up, Wally.
Yeah.
I just had to bring it up because like I said, I onboarded AI, the artist to this.
So how does it look to onboard somebody that is happy to see that they finally are being
accepted in some type of community and to see that somebody has made the song viral, but
don't want to say AI, the artist done the song is really good.
You know what I mean?
And, but they know who done the song.
They see the stuff.
You understand?
That's why it's in the passion for me because I'm onboarding somebody to this for our community,
for us and to put, you know, and it's, that's why it's in my heart, brother.
You know, I definitely see the passion that comes.
I mean, there's been a lot of music that has come out just recently and I know you guys
have put a lot of heart into some of this stuff and Pepe is definitely a community thing.
Like you can't sit there and don't let like single people bother you.
Like anybody can open up a space.
I've been into spaces.
I've been in Pauly spaces.
I've been in other spaces that people host when Pauly's not around.
And there's always going to be people that are a little bit more involved and might have
a little bit more head front when it comes to, you know, being a presence in Web3,
but anybody can drive and push something.
You know, if you're feeling like you're being overshadowed, don't let it get to you.
You're a very talented artist.
There's a lot of really talented people.
Yeah, it's not me, brother.
It's really, like I say, the artist, man, because, you know, like I'm onboarded, you
know, and I don't want that person to have a bad taste on us.
You know, I'm good.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm good.
I just said, you know, but I just want to say that.
And thank you very much, everybody.
And, you know, that's all, you know, and I'm in the middle of a move, but I got a call
by AI, the artist, and, you know, he's just not happy.
So I just have to come on up and let everybody know what's going on.
And thank you very much.
Yo, best of luck to you with your move, Wally.
Yo, never let one bad actor in this space, you know, kind of influence how you see everybody
else.
There's so many incredible.
Oh, no, I don't see nobody else the same.
So much love.
Yeah, yeah, it's so much positivity and everything in here and everything is nothing even against
that person at all.
I just want to be out there because I've never had to pay my money.
Yo, we got a couple more hands up here.
Yo, I hate to jump in.
There's a scam going on right now.
I just wanted to come up and, like, make people aware of it.
So there's this Goku coin.
Basically, they just did, like, a pre-sale, launched 27 ETH on their pre-sale.
And then I commented on their tweet because they said they were doing an airdrop claim rather
than just, like, sending people the airdrop.
If you look at my recent tweet, I hate to, like, plug my tweets, but basically, they blocked
me instantly.
And what I assume they're going to do is launch their website, make people connect their wallet
to their website to claim, and then obviously, like, have a rug in their website.
So if everyone could just kind of, like, share that around so the less people we get, like,
fucked over by this, then that'd be much appreciated.
Absolutely.
What a great call out.
So if you guys didn't hear what NFT Guy just said, he said that, you know, Goku coin is
leveraging a pre-sale into a rug, basically, right now.
So definitely look out for Goku and take what this guy says seriously.
This guy has a lot of tenure and experience in the space and knows what to look out for.
So definitely don't get involved as far, you know, as far as now, that's a big indicator
to watch out.
Don't connect any of your wallets to it and anything like that.
Thank you, NFT Guy, for that shout-out.
We got a lot of people in here, and it's important to make sure everybody stays safe.
What's going on, NFT?
It's good to see you, bud.
Thank you for that.
I appreciate it.
You know, we got to be careful, guys, when it comes to this stuff.
As soon as you ask a question, you get blocked.
That's a red flag.
That's an immediate red flag.
So I do appreciate it.
Go ahead, Crazy.
What's up?
Hey, I'm going to have to hop off here.
Got to go do some family stuff.
But I just want to say thank you for the invite, G.
Whenever you're doing another space, feel free to shoot me a message in Discord or on here.
You know, I'll be happy to swing through.
But, yeah, with that, I'm off like the round dress.
I'll see you later, Crazy.
It's good talking to you.
Have some good time with the fam.
See you around.
Let's go.
All right.
Let's retweet the room.
We got some good education here so far today.
We talked about security.
We talked about coins.
We talked about Cardano.
We talked about Pepe.
I mean, just looking at the chart of Pepe, it's really just going sidewards right now.
So it's holding support really well.
It didn't break through that 300 Satoshi's range again.
It kind of rejected it.
So it's going to be interesting to see if we're going to continue sidewards in the –
I don't want to say it's a bull flag, but the positive pattern that we have going on here.
Or it's going to break down.
If it breaks down, it could go possibly to 184 on the low end.
So definitely something to watch.
Go ahead.
You know, it's pretty bullish, Chiba.
I think that, you know, we're still so early.
We still are so early, like we mentioned earlier in the space.
It hasn't even been a month yet.
I'm excited to see the different ways that the market continues to integrate Pepe token into, you know,
the different ecosystems and the different use cases around the space so that we can, you know,
actually continue to have fun with utilizing the tokens some more.
And, you know, like what we're doing, integrating Pepe coin into exchange in our collection.
Or, you know, I know a lot of other people are moving towards integrating the token into different ecosystems in Web3.
And that will be exciting to see, you know, not only, you know, people coming together, you know, to support, you know, one currency,
but just, you know, being able to expand the space in those use cases and seeing the volume, you know,
directed into Pepe coin at this time start to, you know, carry over into the broader market within the space for sure.
But they definitely seen a lot of projects over the last week, you know, jump on board.
I mean, I know Killebears is throwing out Pepe token, like a crap load.
I think Jen was the first person to catch that.
Like he tweeted out and I'm like, wow, what a fat find that was.
So that was just, it's really cool to see some really good name projects to jump on something.
We talk about Ape token, like when it was launched and it's been out and everybody's like,
oh, I know we got to support Ape token, the board apes, you know, that's cool and everything.
I do like Ape token in the long run. I think it's going to do very well.
But Pepe token has a very good chance of doing better.
It's a more community started. It was started up through Twitter.
I feel like there's way more active people involved in it.
I think it just has a way better base.
It's crazy to think that Pepe token currently has a better, better long-term vision than probably,
you know, Ape does, at least for this year.
I mean, I don't know where Ape's going to go in the next few years, especially with like other side lands
and who knows what kind of utility they're going to bring to the board apes and the token overall.
But when it comes to price movement, excuse me, and a lot of these meme coins and stuff with Pepe,
Bitcoin's been literally dead.
Like, I don't know what's going on.
Like, my meme is the guy with the stick and he's pushing the token.
Like, that's literally what we're experiencing right now.
Like, it's been like 30 days, I think, at least, maybe even more at this point,
that we've been hovering at this range, this 28 to like 30K, a little bit underneath.
I mean, if I move back 90 days on the chart I'm looking at here, our 90-day low is 23K or 22K.
And then our high is around 30.
So, we've been at this level since like February.
Like, when the heck are we going to jump out of this?
I don't know, man.
It seems like that 30 to 33K resistance on Bitcoin is very, very strong.
And it's preventing Pepe and his other coins to move more.
I think if Bitcoin started running this week, let's say Bitcoin went for like 35K plus,
we could see gains on Pepe again, like 300 plus percent.
And you could see some of these other coins like Shiba and some of these other alt coins, meme coins do well.
But I think if we get a breakdown, which is very possible here on Bitcoin,
we could see a lot of these coins drain, including Pepe.
Why?
It's because Pepe got most of the liquid.
You know, people are up on it.
You know, right now, if you didn't sell at the top and you're holding right now,
you're down a lot, like 40 percent from the top.
I don't know the math behind that.
But there's really just a possibility for it to do really well long term at least.
But short term, it's very, very – it's a little scary.
I'm not saying you have to be worried and you need to sell.
This is not financial advice.
But you've got to look at Bitcoin's chart.
Bitcoin is going to dictate where a lot of these coins go, believe it or not.
You know, if Pepe goes up 1,000 percent and Bitcoin stays sideways, fantastic.
That would be good.
But if Bitcoin is not healthy, you're not going to see any growth in some of these coins,
especially like Pepe.
But even the other coins on other chains, you won't see them do well.
I mean, if Bitcoin goes down, ADA goes down, and then everything on ADA also will go down.
So it's all correlated as much as we don't want it to be.
Yeah, there's not much we can do about that.
Yeah, I'm not sure if we actually want Bitcoin to go up.
I think if it stays stable is probably the best bet.
I mean, if it goes up and all the alts start running, I'm not sure how the meme coins would do.
You know, I could see people, you know, transitioning out of the meme coins and, you know, try to catch the quote-unquote legit, you know, alts.
So, yeah, I'm thinking sideways might be the best.
What do you think?
I mean, there's a market for everything.
There's a meme coin market, and then you have altcoin season, and then you have Bitcoin ETH season.
Like, these are phrases that we use because they're real.
It's not just, like, the coins go off and then Bitcoin goes off after.
Sometimes it's not like that.
So, I mean, I even thought that Pepe might have restarted the bull run.
Like, I thought we were going to see Bitcoin's price push past 30K and move upward.
I thought we were going to see money come out of Pepe token and go into Bitcoin ETH, but we didn't see that.
I don't know how much moved in and out of it in general, but I was thinking that we might see a pump somewhere else.
But the money hasn't been moving around anywhere yet.
I mean, besides some NFT communities, I've seen a lot of people get some of their key blue chips, like, across a few projects.
I've seen some really big buys.
And that's always dope to see.
People that had a few hundred dollars, they turned it into 20, 25K.
They bought themselves a good blue chip, and now they have a bunch of extra liquid to play with.
So, it's definitely a sidewards market.
Do I want it to stay sidewards?
I don't know.
Wouldn't it be better if we all could make money?
But, I don't know.
If you have a good meme coin established, like Stink and Pepe token and King, these are just examples that they already established themselves.
They have a presence.
You can still grow that and onboard people, even in a healthy crypto market.
It's like saying if Bitcoin goes up, is NFTs going to drain more and are more people going to buy crypto?
So, it's very possible.
But, you know, we do see that flow go back the other way.
So, I don't know.
I'm cool with the sideways movement, but I would also like to see us break through 33, 35K somewhere by the summer.
I think we could even possibly test an all-time high at the end of the year if we could break it with enough volume.
So, if not, I think we're waiting until the halving, which is next year, which is correlated with an election, too.
So, we've got a halving and we've got a big thing in the United States.
So, it's definitely going to be interesting.
As much as politics is a pain in the ass nowadays, it is very tied into crypto.
So, we've got to watch it carefully.
The next year to two years is going to be very interesting for this space overall, not only tokens, but NFTs in general.
I'm actually curious what your opinion is on, you know, meme coin profits, you know, like Pepe, Snack, King that you mentioned, like blowing into NFTs, like on that blockchain.
What are your thoughts on that one?
So, definitely confirm that that happens.
I don't know if people that are trading King are selling it and buying sole NFTs, but I know personally a bunch of my friends and people on my time, like my feed, that sold it.
They literally say, you know, I sold my Pepe, here's 15K, I bought a D-God or I bought a Penguin or I bought, you know, some people buy mutant apes out here.
So, as much as we see a lot of pressure on some of these NFTs and some of these floors, people are taking gains.
You know, as much as I would like Pepe to go to the absolute moon and I want all my friends to get rich, it's not realistic.
It's the same way I thought Shiba was just going to continue going up, you know, it's not the case.
People are going to grab profit and you don't want to get caught in it.
Let's say you sell something, let's say you own Pepe and you have $50,000 and you sold it at the top and then it goes down and then you never buy it again and then it goes and blows through the top that you sold at.
Who cares?
You can't think like that.
If that's the way you think and you're like, oh, I miss more profit, you're never going to make it in this space.
You know, profit is profit and then when you have a loss, sometimes you've got to take a loss.
You can gain that back easily, you know, trading another NFT or another coin.
I can tell you personally myself, I have not won every trade.
Absolutely not.
And I definitely have not bought all the right NFTs.
But I've cautiously maneuvered around this space, bought meme coins, bought NFTs, bought blue chips, have multiple wallets, know how to read an Ether scanner, know how to do a little bit of research.
And if I'm really going to dump a lot of money into a coin or a meme coin, I'm going to make sure I read it and really do enough research on it.
And even Pepe being so out in the front, I still didn't buy any, knowing tons of people involved in it because I just felt like the market wasn't healthy enough for something to grow decently well.
Obviously, short term here was great for some of these tokens, but that's all I see is short term right now, especially with the price of Bitcoin and ETH.
Yeah, I think it all trickles down in some aspects.
I think if we do see a pump in Bitcoin and Ethereum that, you know, ideally it's a lot of return trading or, you know, new volume coming into the market where we will see it trickle down all the way into, you know, meme coins and NFTs and, you know, the culture in general.
Because I feel like, you know, that's a lot of what the crypto space is founded on is culture.
And you see a lot more people embracing that on a more like integrous level than they did in the past where, you know, they choose something to stand behind and they're actually going to, you know, truly stand behind it.
And I hope that we continue to see that with like PepeCoin and a lot of the other things that come into the market, you know, especially with NFTs at this point.
It's kind of like that testing phase.
And it has been for the past year where it's like, are you here to stay?
Are you here to continue to push value and stand behind the community?
Or is this something else for you?
And it's been a huge test for a lot of people where we have seen, you know, a lot of people go.
We have seen people, you know, not able to stand the, you know, those tests in the market from the community, whatever it is, and they get taken down with it.
But, you know, the ones that are strong enough are in it for the right reasons.
And, you know, hopefully it's the ideal moment in the market where, you know, people can see that they can feel welcome.
You know, as long as we make sure everybody's staying safe like we've been talking about in the space here, then, you know, I think that it will ultimately all trickle down into a lot of different areas of the market.
We're definitely going to see it.
It's going to happen.
I mean, even if Pepe stays at where it is and, say, coasts sidewards, I'm very confident a lot of people that are in it are happy where they are.
I mean, a lot of people got in early.
And I'm using Pepe as an example because it's really still very new and it's over a billion-dollar market cap still.
So to know that over a billion dollars can flow into something over seven days.
And, guys, there's like 2% of the fucking world that knows about this, probably way lower than that.
Like, the only people that are investing in this are people on Twitter.
So you're telling me that NFT Twitter generated a billion-dollar meme coin in seven days?
That's fucking unbelievable.
So imagine if we're able to repeat that and still hold value in some of these coins.
So, I don't know.
It's going to be really interesting to see.
I think we're definitely pivoting away from, like, you know, jumping on a train, a crypto train, and hoping that it goes up and that we can actually build a coin ourselves and get everybody $2,000, $3,000, $2,000, $3,000 over, like, a month.
And be like, you know what?
We did it better.
We did it different.
We don't have to go to these random, you know, sign up, give us some money, and we'll send you some tokens.
Don't do that.
Stay away from ICOs, initial coin offerings.
Stay away from any coin that is telling you to send money.
If they are, go to the Discord, meet the people first, you know, different when you actually spend some time with them.
But if you're, like, hoping, you're sending $500, that it's going to turn into $10,000, give me the $500.
I'll get you the $10,000, but you're going to have to give me, like, one to three months.
Like, I'm not going to be able to do it in a week.
But, yeah, it's not really safe.
I personally would just stay away from anything that's saying send us money and we'll send you coins maybe later.
Unless you're directly talking to people in the Discord, you know who's there, you know a little bit about the token, you came into a gem scope space,
and you learned a little bit about it, and it's not just some random thing your friend told you about that's at the bowling alley.
Because those are the people you don't want to listen to.
Go ahead, Dave, and then we'll go back to Kenny.
Yeah, I just wanted to quickly touch on, like, how I'm seeing this meme coin market play out compared to, like, the last one.
Hopefully everyone was around for that one because all sorts of gains were made.
And I see, like, a major difference with, you know, back then we didn't really have communities.
We didn't have NFT communities, I would say, you know, all hopping in at the same time.
And, you know, like, I launched one or I launched a coin, you know, eight, nine days ago, somewhere around there.
And I saw, like, a huge influx from, you know, three, primarily, like, three NFT communities.
And, you know, I think the support is just outstanding compared to, you know, coins back then.
Because, you know, I was on a team back in 2019 working on a coin.
And, you know, everyone back then, it was, you know, they would hop into Telegram, and the only conversations were about the price.
You know, everyone was looking to sell on each other.
And, you know, I think it'll be interesting to see how this market plays out with communities that, you know, you have Twitter spaces.
You have communication happening back and forth.
And the, you know, primary source is not the, you know, the price of it or the market cap.
So it'll be kind of interesting to see, like, how that plays out with, you know, say an NFT community picks the right token.
The token does go up.
They do take profits.
And then they start going back into that one NFT community.
So, you know, I don't know.
I'm kind of bullish on meme coins this cycle for NFTs.
You know, I think it's actually going to play out better than people are imagining.
Because, you know, like, I purposely launched a coin with good intentions, did everything the right way.
And, you know, shared the word with people that, you know, I was like, I'm not doing anything nefarious over here.
And, you know, they all hopped in, and they're all making profits.
And I'm like, cool, I'm also in that NFT community, you know.
So it's kind of like a double whammy where it's like, you know, I create an instrument for them to trade on.
And, you know, no guarantee of obvious profits or anything.
However, it's going to play out well, I think.
And I couldn't say the same back in, you know, 2019.
Like, you know, everybody that hopped in Telegram back then, no idea who they were.
No idea who they were afterwards.
You know, we all parted ways.
So it'll be kind of cool to see how this plays out.
You know, I'm just, I'm bullish on NFTs after meme coin season's over.
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree more.
I mean, it's kind of what you were saying a bit earlier.
You know, like, I personally got started, you know, with shitcoins on BSC a couple years ago.
And, you know, yeah, it was Telegrams.
Like, everything felt scammy.
Like, if anybody DMs you, you were like, yeah, I'm not touching that.
But, like, now we're all doing it, like, with our friends.
You know, it's awesome.
It's a whole different vibe.
And I think the potential is definitely a lot higher than it was back then.
You know, we clearly see a different thing happening here with the meme coin.
We use Pepe as an example because of the way it's grown.
I wouldn't compare the current market we're in to the last meme coin market.
Obviously, because we're in a different place mentally and physically in Web3.
I think all of us were a little bit on still euphoria.
We're coming out of the Doge craze into the Shiba craze.
And that started up a small-ass bull run for crypto, which I thought we were going to see, like, higher all-time highs.
But we got faked out.
Like, I did the research.
I kind of felt like the timeline was right.
I thought the bull market was going to last longer.
But we had a lot of contingencies that were involved in it.
Real-world issues, pandemics.
God, forget about it.
Economies and policies.
It really dampered the last bull run.
It really shortened it.
So to see Shiba do so well and Doge do so well, I mean, I knew about Doge when it was used on other exchanges just to buy other cryptos.
That's the only reason you bought that token was to buy XLM or ADA or XRP.
And this was 2017.
You couldn't even get Doge anywhere but, like, the shady-ass exchanges across the world.
You couldn't get them anywhere.
So just to see that happen and then go to, like, Shiba to where you could buy it in Coinbase Wallet and Coinbase and Robinhood and that all – I saw that happening, unfolding.
I was like, Robinhood's going to jump on it once that happens, Coinbase.
And they all took it.
They all bought a large amount of it.
And then they took it and they put it in front of their investors and it exploded.
But we were in a way healthier place.
The market was healthier.
Crypto was on the bull tear.
So we were running with a meme token running also.
So imagine if we had Pepe Run continues to run with a positive Bitcoin niche.
That's why I know a lot of people are like, we don't want it to run.
We want to, you know, coast and have, like, a relaxing market.
But it's eventually going to erupt.
And I think it would really push a lot of the meme tokens, even the ones that you're building.
Like, if we're able to build the base level of those communities, the same way we did NFTs, when the bull run comes, money is going to go into that token,
especially if you're building it like an NFT project where, you know, you can give back.
Or let's say you airdrop NFTs, you could do it the whole other way.
You know, we talk about creating value for NFT project.
How do you create value for your coin project with NFTs?
So, I mean, you could do it another way.
You can give out, you know, Chipotle gift cards or Starbucks.
I mean, whatever you want.
But there definitely is something different here.
And we've seen it in Pepe.
And I think we might see it in Snake.
I think we could see it in King.
I think there's a possibility where we can have, like, four front-running tokens that do well because they have that community already built.
I invited up some people, by the way, from the crowd.
Don't pin anything, please.
Don't get me in trouble.
But you're more than welcome to join in the conversation.
You're more than welcome to ask any questions.
If you're in the crowd and want to come up, you're allowed to ask questions on the topics.
Please, no shilling any of your projects or tokens.
But, yes, if you want to raise your hand, I'll call on you.
Go ahead, gentlemen.
Real quick, before anybody says anything as well, that's exactly what I was going to comment on.
For anybody that's new to Twitter spaces, if you check up at the top, we have up here what's called a jumbotron or whatever you want to call it.
But, you know, notable things regarding the space that you can check out.
Anybody that's a speaker can pin stuff.
So this is a pretty open stage here.
If you want to come up here, if you have anything you want to add to the conversation, definitely come up and do that.
And we'll kind of recycle you guys in and out of the floor here.
But for anybody else listening in the room, be very careful what you click on.
If it's not shared by one of the hosts or co-hosts that you see on the stage here, just, you know, check out the content and, you know, just be careful.
Be safe in the space.
Don't click any links or anything like that.
But, you know, any new speakers that want to chime in?
Rami, I know you had your hand up.
You're more than welcome.
Yeah, thanks, Kane.
I'll jump in and share some thoughts on both Pepe and Snake.
I followed the rise of Pepe from the beginning, from the first few days.
Unfortunately, I watched from the sidelines.
But why I think it caught on so rapidly is because it started from an image and likability of a character that everyone knew.
It's a figure that communities recognized.
It became an icon that everyone fell in love with.
I think crypto has been in a bear market for a while.
Everyone's been losing money.
Everything turned into a show fest.
I think people just wanted to have fun for a change instead of just being showed a new NFT every passing day.
Pepe was put on, I think, thousands of memes within a day or two.
It went viral very, very quickly.
SNET, to a much smaller extent, to this point, had a lot of similarities to that.
Goofy mentioned earlier, it started as a trait from an NFT collection.
As soon as they were minted, it was something that caught everyone's attention.
People were talking about it on Discord, on Twitter.
Everyone had some sort of funny reaction to the snake.
From there, potential rose for something bigger in hopes of, honestly, just having fun with something new.
I think it's a unique time in crypto right now overall.
Pepe started meme coin season.
I don't think anyone imagined just how big it would become in such a short amount of time.
In contrast, on Cardano, we didn't really have anything similar to it, which is part of why it caught momentum early on.
It started an exciting and fun time for our space as a whole.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out over the coming months and if it leads into the start of a bull market heading into 2024.
I think if we could get a bull run in the next – I mean, I've been talking about the halving because I'm very confident that Bitcoin will do well after the halving.
I mean, history repeats itself.
If you don't believe, Shiva, go look on the past few halvings that we've had.
It's produced some crazy numbers, like absolutely crazy.
So, I don't know, can we possibly see a lower low on Bitcoin?
Can we see it go down to $17,000 again?
Can it go lower?
Anything is possible in this space.
I've seen Bitcoin do some crazy moves in 30 days.
I mean, just look at the pandemic.
That month of the pandemic, Bitcoin and the U.S. market sank to its all-time low within 30 days.
And then 30 days later, it was all the way back up to an all-time high again.
So, 30-day pivot for all that money to come out.
I've seen it happen.
So, it's going to be interesting to see where Bitcoin goes by the end of this year.
And we could see some really crazy movements in some of these meme tokens, as mentioned.
But yeah, feel free to raise your hand.
We are going to rotate people.
If you don't raise your hand, you know, you don't ask any questions.
We have people that want to come up.
We're going to continue rotating them.
I'm not going to be a meanie here, but we're going to make sure we bring people up that want to engage in the conversation.
And feel free to ask any questions that's related to NFTs or crypto.
You can ask me about Shiba Token.
You can ask me about bowling if you want.
We can get into a small bowling conversation.
But maybe, maybe, I was thinking, like, bowling alleys, man, they're really expensive.
We have to create a bowling NFT and then create a bowling token.
I think people would save an infinite amount of money in a bowling alley.
But that's just my thought for another day.
Yo, are you a big bowler, Shiba?
Shiba lives in the bowling alley.
If I'm not home with the loud dogs that are upstairs right now, talking about NFTs, I'm in a bowling alley.
Yo, hell yeah.
There we go.
NFT bowling event?
What are we talking about?
It's going to happen.
And I'm already getting peer pressured from enough people and the music people, NFTs and stuff.
I was in New York City.
They're like, Shiba, let's blow this event.
Let's go to a bowling alley.
I'm like, we'll go to a bowling alley.
We're going to shed, like, $700 for a group of $10.
I'm like, we're better off, like, scheduling it and then, like, going to New Jersey and spending $2 a game instead.
New York City is expensive, man.
They charge you, like, $10 a game.
That's absolutely fucking ridiculous.
So, yeah, but I do like bowling.
It's a hobby of mine outside of trading NFTs and being a part of Web3.
But go ahead, Mr. Hive, and then we'll go down to the Dolphin.
Hey, what's up, bud?
How are you?
So, you know, what's funny is this is the first time I ever got into meme coins, right?
I was watching Pepe.
Pepe do really well.
Then I started watching, like, Turbo and all these – the King.
I was on the Telegram with all these people on King, and it shot up.
It did amazing.
So I said, you know what?
Let me try it.
Let me just try it out.
I did pretty good for my first time, right?
But then I thought about, okay, now since I did good, I wanted to get in this coin and this coin and this coin.
And I think that's what a lot of people that do, and I think that's a big learning curve for individuals like me, new to the space, meme coin space, because we gamble with emotions.
Like, I was, like, really, really – like, last night I stayed up until 2.30 in the morning, 3 o'clock in the morning, and I never do that.
And I think that's important for people to know that – or anyone, like you guys are talking about.
It's important to, you know, not only do your own homework, but maybe, like you always say, is a bet where you can bet and don't bet where you can't bet, meaning, like, if you don't have the money, don't bet the money, right?
Because I don't think everyone wins.
And a lot of these people that always – these influencers that always say they put $250 in and they got, you know, $25,000 or $30,000 back.
A lot of these influencers were given these coins before they even dropped.
So they made this money, and now they're, like – they're talking all this about the coins, and it gets these people emotional, and they bet on it, and then they're betting at the wrong time.
So I think it's important for people to know that, too, that a lot of these influencers, like maybe 99.9% of them are just – they're in it at the right time because they're giving free airdrops or whatever the case may be.
A lot of people might not know that.
So there's so many people in this space that are listening to you guys right now.
I think it's important that, like, that gets stressed out, that stress to, like, newbies or people getting into the space because it's important.
Absolutely, Hive.
Do not invest what you can't afford to lose.
Meme coins is one of the most volatile things that you can possibly throw your money at.
And you can – you can, you know, I don't know.
You can gauge that depending on the tenure of the coin or, you know, the different – like, things that are established within the contract or, you know, these different tools that we use.
And we're able to view, you know, the securities behind them.
You can definitely, you know, kind of gauge your entry based off that.
But with anything, even with Pepe, you know, I would never suggest anybody to invest what they can't afford to lose.
Like, don't be throwing your rent money, your bill money at a coin thinking that you're going to come out on top.
It's just – that's not how it works.
If you can afford to lose it, if it's, you know, you can, you know, not go out this weekend and throw a couple of hundred dollars at a token, you know, do it.
Why not?
Pepe coins some of these other ones in the space right now or definitely have a lot of potential around them.
And we all are kind of on the same motive here where we want to see the vast, you know, expanse of Web3 succeed.
That's why we've all been here.
That's why we've been here for a while and will continue to be here.
And Pepe is, you know, that token that's for the people in my opinion.
And there's a lot of empowerment behind that that we can all stand behind and use it as like a big onboarding bridge into Web3.
But absolutely right, Hive.
I have one more question.
I have one more question for you.
Maybe people are thinking the same thing is how do you – I just got lucky with this – the king.
I got lucky at a point where I just went into somebody's Twitter or I got added to a group chat with a lot of people that knew how to trade or whatever the case may be.
How does somebody actually start looking for a coin when it first drops or coming – when it's first coming out so they can kind of get in at that right time or try to get in at that right time?
Is there any suggestions you guys can give or whatnot?
Literally luck.
I mean it's literally – just like we talked about, if you're not one of the people, like you said, that doesn't get – hello, we're launching a coin.
Would you like some of the supply?
Would you promote it for us?
Like the amount of DMs I've gotten in the last seven days about that, it's like no thank you.
So the reason why – to me, it's not worth it.
So that's personally me.
I'm not going to take coins and then show something.
I mean it was something we talked about in the beginning of the space.
A lot of people out there are just showing stuff like crazy.
Like I get it.
Go for the bag.
But I can't do it.
I plan on being in the space for a long time.
And when it comes to jumping on these early, you just got to get lucky.
Throw in $30 and hopefully make $15 million like that one gentleman did.
Now, I personally think if that was me, I would have definitely pulled that out probably way earlier than a million, probably way earlier than a half a million or even a quarter of a million.
So I'm somebody who would have put $20 into Pepe or $100 and then took out one or two ETH and been very happy with it.
I mean I've maneuvered enough.
I've lost enough money in this space holding on to things.
HODL is the biggest scam in Web3.
I'm sorry if I broke anybody's hearts there.
But the word HODL is a complete joke.
It's like the only reason why people are scared to sell because they think it's just going to go up eventually.
And that's like a really bad mentality to have, not only in NFTs and crypto.
So make those trades.
Get into them early.
Get into maybe an early Pepe token again and drop $30 and then make a few hundred or a few thousand and get out.
And you don't have to tell your friend you're putting $30 and you saw $3K and then you watch it go to zero.
It just sucks.
So grab those profits.
Get in early.
And pivot.
If you had it for three or four days and you're up, sell it.
Don't look at it.
You know, if it goes up again, who cares?
Don't think like that.
Because if that's the case, you're always going to sell at a loss or always going to lose money.
And you're going to be like, why do I never make money?
It's because you never sell the W.
So don't be scared to sell that W.
I'm going to give you my –
As well as trending platforms, communities, alpha groups.
You know, that's why I feel like we do see a lot of volume trickle down into these other aspects of the market.
Because there is a big advantage if you're trying to get involved on like the ground, ground level of things.
You can really tell within like the strength of a community or, you know, the alpha group that's, you know, going to be calling out, you know, potential entry on one of these tokens, you know, how supportive it actually is.
And who is shilling that to you?
You know, the integrity of the people that stand behind it and whether you should get involved or not.
That comes with, you know, your network in the space.
So that's why network, you know, you hear so many people say that network is so valuable.
That's why, in my opinion, we do see volume turn into these other areas of the market.
Because like Pepe, we have an alpha chat in our Discord.
We have the DGEN room where a lot of people talk about these things.
They talk about the different calls or different things that are popping up in the market.
And it's cool because so many, you know, so many people have their areas of expertise.
I mean, we have Josh Savage up here who is an incredible artist in the space and, you know, so, so well-versed, you know, very, very talented person, knows what he's doing in those aspects.
But maybe I wouldn't be going to Josh Savage and be like, give me an entire rundown on the meme coin market right now.
But everybody has their niche, right?
Everybody has so much value to offer to Web3.
And when you get involved in, you know, communities and a network where you can, you know, really take, you know, somebody's input seriously because of their expertise in that specific situation, then, you know, it has a lot of weight to it.
But we can continue passing it around here.
I know, Sal, you've had your hand up for a minute.
Go ahead, Sal.
Yeah.
So, first of all, King, I just realized that you're the founder of Pepe API Club.
I actually did mint a few of those a little while ago.
So, that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
So, I just wanted to, yeah, throw my two cents in on how to, you know, kind of find the meme coins and stuff.
Yeah.
So, I'm somewhere between the, you know, the gems thing of it's all luck and the king of strategy, which is really just community.
I do think, you know, community is big and, you know, if you're in connections or everything, make those connections, get in some groups, have people that, you know, you're not going to discover everything on your own, you know.
So, there's people in there, they'll mention it, you know, you got to, you know, do your own research a little bit, look into it, you know.
And then my real strategy is just anything that has potential, anything that I feel like could make it, put a little bit of money in, you know what I mean?
That way you can really spread yourself out, you know, give yourself the options.
And then every once in a while, you know, this comes a little bit with experience, every once in a while you see something and you're like, okay, you know, this is going to be big, you know.
It's going to be something.
So, then you put, you know, quite a bit more in, you know.
But, again, never go all in, you know.
Spread it out, be active in groups, be active on Twitter, and that's really how you end up there.
I like how you mentioned experience, Sal, because, you know, I definitely see that as well.
Just being in the market long enough, you kind of see something pop up and you're like, yeah, like the market is going to take this for sure.
So, that's like just a big, you know, having confidence in your own decisions is, you know, very powerful in the market as well.
And that comes with time and it comes with, like, experience.
So, you're only going to get that by joining Twitter spaces like this, by encouraging others to join Twitter spaces like this,
or simply, you know, join these different groups, Telegrams, Alpha Chats, Twitter groups, whatever it is,
so that you can continue to get that valuable information.
And even if you're not making investments at that current time, just exposing yourself to the market, you know,
seeing the different trends, seeing what people are saying, and then following it after that,
it will kind of allow you to, you know, make your own decisions in the space as well, which is very important.
Because sometimes it can be hard to distinguish, you know, we were talking about, you know, influencer shilling a little bit ago.
So, it is hard to distinguish a lot of times where people's intentions are as far as, you know, why they're making that post.
You know, what's going on in their head behind the scenes if they're truly looking out for, you know, the community and the investors
or if they're looking for, like, an exit themselves or something like that.
Go ahead, Sheba.
Now, I just want to agree with you.
It's 100%.
It's hard to think that everybody, especially that's posting or in an influencer position, is doing it for the right reasons.
But, man, I can tell you at least 90% of the time it's not.
It sucks to say that, but it's the reality.
You've got to realize that, you know, people in those positions are getting the messages and, you know, grabbing the bag early.
Another example would be like, you know, they get a bag and then it goes up a decent amount
and then they tell a bunch of community members to jump on it and then what happens next?
They dump it and then it goes down 80%.
They're like, oh, it's just a cycle.
It's going to go back up.
Well, now you're part of a cycle that's going to take two weeks to get your money back
and then it's going to take you another week to get the all-time high.
So, you know, don't be the person that, you know, they grab 40th of your liquidity just to give it back, you know, a few months later.
It's not a way to do it.
Just because of charting and cycles doesn't mean you have to be, I know, on the top end of that cycle.
You know, wait until it goes down.
Wait until they pull their portion out and get it at the bottom so you don't put yourself in a position.
But let me go to Dolphin here.
Then let me go to – say hello to Josh.
And then I need to rotate.
So if you're up on the stage and you don't mind jumping down and you're not part of anybody that's in the discussion,
I really appreciate it.
We're going to bring some more people up.
We have, like, seven requests or I'm just going to rotate people.
So I do appreciate everybody for coming who came up and said something.
Go ahead, Mr. Dolphin.
Real quick before Dolphin goes, I just want to acknowledge as well, like, Shiba, I respect you a lot for that.
If, like, you look at my account itself, I haven't posted a single thing about PepeCoin or any meme coin in general.
And it's not that I don't have conviction in PepeCoin.
It's that, you know, I post about things that I have full control and full, like, conviction that I know that I'm shilling something that's going to be beneficial for my community.
I know, you know, being a part of PepeCoin, being a founder of PepeCoin, I know that I, you know, I have conviction in myself, obviously.
But I just can't say the same for other things.
Even though I do have, you know, so much conviction for, like, PepeCoin, I just don't shill it.
Because, you know, I want my, you know, integrity in the space to be more valuable long term than anything else.
People ask, like, why haven't you dropped a meme coin?
It's like, you know, you put so much on your plate, you focus on those things, and then you make sure that you're providing, you know, the most enhanced version of whatever service that you're trying to implement in Web3 and focus on that.
So just you bringing that up, I have a lot of respect for you for that ship.
And, you know, that's why it is so important to get involved on, like, the, you know, a little bit more low-key alpha groups, chats, stuff like that.
Because the people that have a lot of value to share with you and they're unbiased are going to be found in those groups and the networks that you guys gather here in the space.
Not just, you know, influencer shills that you see floating around Twitter.
And I'm sorry, Dolphin, go ahead.
It's all good, brother.
It's all good.
Thank you, number one, for holding the space.
So I think it's something that we needed because I just learned of, you know, shit coins or meme coins or whatever you want to call them this week.
And it's through Snake.
So it's something I've never been involved in before in my life.
But just with what was spoke about earlier with the volume, you know, just crushing that of what we're doing in NFTs.
I mean, it was something I could stand behind.
And it was something that, you know, I'm sure you'll hear people talk about if Lego gets up here.
It's just the fact that it's something that's definitely bringing the community together, right?
And it's something we can all support for not a very, very high entry point.
And we can get everybody involved.
It's not like you have to spend thousands of dollars to get involved and get involved with the community.
And just understand what's going on with it and understanding tokenomics and things like that.
So it was cool to watch.
And in turn, in watching that, you know, I got to learn about a completely different ecosystem with it being with Pepe and kind of watching what you guys were doing over here.
So, number one, this was a great space to have everybody kind of come together and learn together.
Because at the end of the day, you know, at the very beginning, yes, I indeed was a Cardano Maxi.
But now it's kind of, I understand, the dream is that we all make it together, right?
And that's the only way that we're going to make it.
So we can help each other and we can learn from each other.
That's the best thing we can do.
So that's what this community has kind of done.
It's brought a lot of like-minded people together where we can have these open forum discussions and have a talk about it.
So, yeah, I will step down.
Thank you very much for having me, guys.
I appreciate you.
Goofy, I appreciate you and what you're doing in the ecosystem.
It's been absolutely awesome to be a part of this journey.
I support you and what you're doing.
So, yeah, thank everybody for having me.
I appreciate you, brother.
I'm going to pivot to Josh just to say hello and then we'll go to Elle next.
What up, Josh?
How you doing?
Good evening.
Hey, Shiba.
I'm doing good.
It's my last day in the States.
Making the most of it.
Walking through New York and listening to you guys because it's – even though I'm predominantly in the media space, I do find the other side of the crypto space fascinating.
So it's good to be here and learn.
And I have a question for you, Shiba.
When you change your name to Pepe King?
Never.
That'll never happen.
It'd be really confusing.
People are like, what happened to Shiba?
Now he's Pepe King.
Now he's just one of those influencer clout people.
And I don't want to be that guy.
Will I buy some Pepe?
It's very possible.
I may buy some Pepe just to be a part of it.
But as of now, it's staying Shiba King.
It's probably going to stay Shiba King forever.
People ask me, why is Shiba – it has a little bit to do with the token.
A little bit because I happen to have a lot of Shiba at one point.
But I also like dogs and I also want to maybe one day own a Shiba.
So people are like, oh, you know, you have a – I actually got shit on this week a lot by Pepe people.
Like randomly, actually, it got to the point where it was like, Jesus, I'm just getting – just jumped – literally jumped by Pepe people.
Not even saying anything.
They're like, ah, Shiba King.
It's crazy.
It's funny though.
But I actually got to meet a lot of the community thanks to Paul and some of those other people on those stages.
I met Chris, Wall Street Bets Chris.
He's super nice.
He's like, come up and hang out with us.
So it's a good community but never changing my name.
But we will go bowling.
I owe you bowling, Josh.
So we definitely will do that.
Probably won't catch you before you leave.
But sooner than later, we will do bowling, maybe for some Pepe.
Maybe.
But go ahead.
It's funny how you say that on Twitter spaces.
But when it comes to the live –
Oh, here we go.
We were in New York City.
We were like, NFT references.
You're like, oh, no, I'm ill.
I don't feel well.
Listen, we were running around the city during the NFT events.
You know, it was hot that week.
I have all the excuses underneath my belt.
You guys had me gallivanting like 50 blocks I was walking.
So I don't want to hear it.
Well, I promise I'll make it up to you.
We're going to do a bowling thing sooner than later.
But, yeah, I'm not backing out.
There's no way.
You can't even try to pin that on me right now.
We'll talk about that later.
But go ahead, Al.
How are you doing?
What's up?
Yo, I just came up to say thank you to everybody for pumping my bags.
I just bought a nightclub with Snake.
Let's fucking go.
I just bought a fucking nightclub with Snake, baby.
Let's fucking go.
Shout out to everybody pumping my bags.
Thank you, Jem.
Thank you, Sheba.
Thank you, King.
Pump my fucking bag.
Pump my fucking bags, baby.
I love you all.
Make sure you send me a small gift.
Very small.
It doesn't have to be a nightclub.
I'm going to send you all a million snacks each.
Oh, that good.
All right.
I don't know how much that's worth.
It might be like 27 cents.
That's like at least $500.
Oh, shit.
All right.
All right.
It's $500.
There's a lot going on in the back.
We're getting fucking lit.
Yeah, it's all right.
He's getting lit.
He's excited.
Yo, Shib, I just heard 500.
It could be 500 pesos.
You don't know yet.
Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know.
L's a good guy.
I've known him for a little bit.
So it's good to hear.
I'm very excited.
I see the chart up top.
New all-time high.
Definitely get involved in the Discord.
I mean, Jem's a really nice guy.
He's got some really good information.
He's been not only shitting on the people that have taken advantage of people over the last week.
At the same time, he's been finding stuff on Etherscanner, really giving out good information.
Better than I do.
I usually just post charts with some random candles.
I'm like, look, it's going to be bullish.
So Jem is doing all the right things, bringing some attention to things that are being built.
We always use the word building, but this is an example of a meme token that started out fresh with the community.
They have a Discord.
You can talk to a lot of people on the project and the token itself.
But yeah, it's very exciting to see.
Congratulations to the gentleman that's making a shitload of money.
Go ahead.
Let go.
Hey, what's going on, man?
Thanks for having me up.
Yeah, I just wanted to come up and talk about, just full disclosure, I own a little bit of Pepe.
I own a little bit of Snick.
And, you know, I've kind of been pumping Snick, but it's not the, you know, pump my bags like L.
I mean, I think we're all happy that L is getting off the Big Macs and he can go to the Olive Garden.
So that's a good thing.
But I'm up here because I see the cultural significance of what Snick is doing.
It's kind of the first real meme coin that has come out of Cardano culture that everybody in the community has kind of coalesced around.
I've been in these groups.
You see profile pics of every different project.
You see people that had been arguing, had each other blocked, were at each other's throats.
They're up there shaking hands, apologizing.
Like, it's really bringing the community together.
You know, I've been in crypto for a while.
I bought Bitcoin, 25 cents.
I lost it on Mt. Gox.
I got out.
I stayed out.
But I kind of watched it from the sidelines.
I didn't really understand the technology.
And then when I did understand the technology, I got back in.
I got some ETH late, really late.
And I got some Cardano.
And I really appreciated the tech behind Cardano.
Like most people in Cardano, you know, we're a bunch of big brain kind of static people.
You know, we talk about utility and what's it going to do for the world and how is it going to change everything.
And a lot of times that's off-putting to a lot of people at other chains.
You know, like ETH, people there, like, more like to have some fun.
They're artists.
They're shakers and movers.
And Cardano, you know, they're big brain nerds a lot of times.
And a lot of people on Cardano in the beginning were like, oh, there's no utility.
I'm not getting into it.
And that's exactly how I sounded when Dogecoin came out and when Shiba came out.
And I was pumping ETH and Cardano to all my friends, you know, my normies.
And some of them were like, dude, if you say crypto one more time, I'm going to kick you.
I'm not even going to be your friend no more.
Other friends were like, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
And then the ones that were like, I don't know, they called me up one day and they're like, bro, I finally got into crypto.
I got some crypto.
And I'm like, sweet, what'd you get?
Did you get ADA?
Did you get ETH?
Did you get XRP?
Like, what'd you get?
Oh, yeah, I got the Dogecoin.
You know, I got it on Robinhood or, you know, I got the Dogecoin, man.
And it's pumping, you know, I'm making money and it's awesome.
And I was like, oh, don't do that, man.
Sell it.
You're going to lose your money.
You're going to lose everything.
It goes up a little.
Get out, man.
I'm telling you, it's going to dump.
And, you know, some of them did.
Some of them didn't.
It did go up and it did dump.
And but you know what?
More people came into the ecosystem because of those coins.
And I kind of have a feeling that this is Cardano's moment.
You know, I go on a lot of e-spaces and I try to talk to them about Cardano a little or ask them what their impression is.
And they still think we don't have smart contracts.
They still think we're a ghost chain and this, that, the other.
And I think this is like an opportunity for people to reconsider, to come over and see what's going on.
Look at the low transaction fees.
Look at the community.
I mean, right now, Snake is a $9 million U.S. dollar market cap.
It's $20 million ADA.
It's got $3.8 million ADA daily volume.
And it could easily be.
I've said publicly, I'll say it here in front of all these people.
I'm not selling a single Snake until it reaches $100 million U.S. dollars.
Like, I'm not doing it.
That's what I believe in.
I'm willing to dump it all, lose it all.
Not that I have a ton of money into it anyway.
But for this community, like, for us to actually rise up together and show the crypto world that we're not just a bunch of, you know, like, fuddy-duddies.
Like, that we actually have something.
And I think that this is the best opportunity Cardano is going to get.
If you're not on Cardano, I suggest you come take a look around and you might be surprised what you find.
And that's just what I'm saying.
That's about what I have to say.
I could go on forever, but there's no point.
I just wanted to address one thing that you said about HODL.
I think a lot of what you guys are saying is true, but I think it all comes in context.
I think the reason where HODL, you know, came from is because, you know, Bitcoin went to $100 and then it dumped.
And people, after, you know, they bought at the top and then it dumped to the bottom and they sold it and they lost all their money.
And then next thing you know, it went up to $1,000.
And, you know, now we know where Bitcoin is at.
And some of that happened to my friends with Dogecoin, you know, Doge pumped and then dumped.
But guess what?
It did come back.
So if you do miss the top, like, don't necessarily sell at a loss.
You know, just understand that this market has cycles.
And if you haven't sold, you haven't lost, you know, and I think that's the logic behind HODL.
But I do agree with what you said, too.
You know, it's good to get in early and it's good to get out on your way up and, you know, take your profits.
Take a little 2X and then hold the rest and enjoy the free ride and hope that you can get out towards the top.
But, look, man, I'm telling you, Snake is something different on Cardano.
It's something new.
It's still very, very early.
I mean, if we're at $9 million and it goes to $50 million, that's still a 10X, you know.
So if you're going to go to Starbucks today, hey, maybe have some Folgers at home and buy some Snake, man.
Let's go.
I can't believe this guy came up here and outed us as a bunch of nerds.
I'm going to go cry myself to sleep tonight.
You know, it was a solid show, though.
Solid show.
Appreciate you, Lego.
Going back to the HODL thing, I mean, you're not wrong.
You know, the reason why crypto even made it out of where it came from is because people held.
I mean, I guess for newer coins, as in Snake, we'll use this as an example.
You've got to hold it.
You've got to hold it as you're the base community or the startup.
If you sell it for, you know, a little bit of profit, you're just going to, you know, deter the growth in it, especially early.
We've got to get it out of that early phase.
Man, I don't even know.
What would we call a small cap meme token?
Like, what do you think is the amount of liquidity?
I mean, I guess that doesn't really work because it could get rugged at any liquidity, so it doesn't really matter.
But is Pepe really safe compared to Snake?
Is it safer than Snake or is Snake safer?
Or is King safer than Pepe?
It's like, it's so weird to think, like, is the people behind it, the Snake in general, just a better investment because Pepe already did 3,000%?
And, you know, I feel like majority of NFT Twitter is already in it.
And the people that aren't in it are the people IRL that are just buying $20 off Robinhood.
Like, legitimately, like, if Pepe token goes to Robinhood, that's all we're going to hear.
IRL is like, oh, I bought that frog token everybody's talking about.
I bought $20 worth.
I'm hoping to make, I know, $10K.
I'm like, well, you already missed the $20 to $10K.
And that's the thing is they don't see that.
Those investors, IRL, that are coming into the Dow or Shiba, you know, they're like, they're just waiting for it to hit Robinhood.
Like, my friends, I was telling them, like, put it in a Coinbase wallet, convert it now.
They're like, ah, I don't want to.
I'm just going to wait until it hits Robinhood.
It's easier.
I'm like, well, you're going to wait for another, you know, 100%.
You don't want to turn your $20 into $200 and then turn that $200 into a few thousand?
Or would you rather just put $200 and then watch it go to, like, you know, $300 and be like, oh, I'm good with that?
So it's hard to educate people on boarding them into these meme tokens, being like, there's an easier access.
Compared to 2017, comparing it again, when I had to go from an exchange to another exchange to another exchange.
So I had to buy a token on something in China, send it to another exchange, Cryptopia, which got completely rugged as a fucking exchange.
They rugged the whole damn thing.
They took all the money.
They're like, well, we're doing an update.
And they never came back.
And then I sent it from Cryptopia to Coinbase or Robinhood just to get a token.
And it was a crazy time what we had to go through just to get some of these tokens.
Nowadays, you know, you get the contract, copy and paste it, you open up a wallet, and then boom, you know, you have your token.
So if you're somebody who's well-knowledged in the space and you've been here, you're able to grab on these sooner.
And, you know, you can go into the Snake Discord and be like, you know, what's the easiest way to do it?
You know, once again, make sure you have the right contract.
That's step one, just having the right contract and having the liquidity in your wallet.
After that, it's pretty easy to convert using the integrations they have in some of these wallets, using some of these exchanges like Union and stuff.
Yeah, if I could add in just one last thought, though.
I mean, somebody mentioned that Pepe started out as an NFT.
But, I mean, that's the thing about Pepe.
Pepe is like a whole culture outside of crypto.
I mean, it started in 4chan, and it proliferates the whole culture.
I mean, there's a whole culture, and I think that's why Pepe kind of took off the way it did, because it actually exists outside of crypto.
And I think it's just the beginning for Pepe, too.
I mean, I think Pepe has a shot of, I mean, what's it, $500 million?
And Dogecoin is $11 billion.
And I think it has a chance of getting up there with Doge, just because it really, even more than Snake, maybe, and again, it's not at all financial advice, because Pepe's off to the races.
But it is on KuCoin, it is on Binance, so there is a lot of liquidity there that's not on SundaySwap for Snake, you know what I mean, at this point.
So, I think, like, Pepe, again, like, there's still a lot of room to run for that.
And just, you know, it's never too late.
You're 100% right.
It's, you know, the long term for Pepe does look good.
As long as Pepe could survive, even with some downwards pressure from Bitcoin or ETH, and it could really sustain, and people really believe in it long term, it could easily do something like Shiba and Doge did.
I mean, you've got to be realistic, though.
I mean, it's not going to a penny.
It's not possible.
Like, mathematically, it would be, like, trillions and trillions of dollars.
I don't think the government will let a Pepe token hit $50 trillion market cap.
I don't think that's going to happen, at least not this year.
Maybe in, like, five, ten years, you know, when there's a lot more money in the market, maybe when, like, the total market cap of crypto is, like, $100 trillion, which, you know, what's going to happen someday?
I don't know when, if we'll make it.
But it has to be realistic numbers.
People are shouting on the rooftops that, you know, that Shiba was going to hit a penny last cycle.
And it really, it wasn't possible.
I wasn't even looking for a penny.
I was looking for the 0001 was, like, my target.
I mean, I remember sitting and staring at my phone when I had $70,000 in profit and didn't even think about pulling anything out.
And that was, like, my second time having a lot of money.
I mean, like, oh, this is my chance.
I'm going to get rich.
And that was me knowing that I wasn't going to get rich.
So we all make those silly mistakes on not selling at the top.
But I still sold it.
I sold it a little bit underneath.
I made a good amount of money.
I definitely sold it at the peak.
But I also got back in.
I made some movement.
I think I even bought Shiba down in, like, it was under the tens.
It's, like, you know, where it is now.
And then I think it went up to, like, $20 at some point.
So even I bought back in and still made, like, double my money on, like, that little pump that we had a few months back.
So there's always opportunities to make in this market.
You just got to just make sure you do it safely, going back to the whole looking at the contracts and stuff.
But there's definitely tons of profits to be made.
And Pepe long term does look healthy.
So we just hopefully we can get it to that point when we see a bull run.
And like I said, I don't think we're going to see any type of crazy explosion in any of these other tokens.
I mean, like I said, Pepe can go up in 500, 700 percent, maybe even 1,000.
It's very possible.
But for Pepe to go to, like, you know, drop two more zeros, it's not going to do it.
It's not without, you know, the total market moving with it.
I personally think it won't.
I think a lot of people that got in early are going to grab money because I've seen some crazy gains already.
To turn a few hundred dollars into 20, 30K is only something that I dream about.
Like, $30,000 for me is a lot of money.
I know from other people, they've been in the space longer.
They make that in a few months.
But that's, like, life-changing money.
Not only for me, but I can have investments.
I could buy some NFTs, some shit coins, and still have money left over, you know, for my family, who, you know, I would love to take care of.
You know, this is something personal.
I think a lot of our parents raised us pretty well.
Look where we've made it.
We all made it onto Twitter, and now we're degening into NFTs and buying pictures.
But at least it worth something.
You know, we could be off in the streets doing stupid shit, you know, well into our late 20s and 30s.
But I think we found something here in the NFT space slash meme coin era that we're experiencing.
All right, now I'm going on tangents.
Go ahead, Dolphin.
Hey, listen, just real quick.
I'm going to step down for you just so I can clear the stage.
But I'm giving away one million snakes to somebody that's in this space.
So I am going to step down.
If you can just get a hold of me, Gemscope, and let me know what we have to do to get it out to somebody, just let me know.
I appreciate it.
I know that there's some small giveaways.
Anybody that's come up and is doing giveaways, I know Hive has, like, a Pepe giveaway if you go to their page.
They're close friends of mine personally.
So, you know, if you want to win, like, $50 or $100, I know they've been doing some things.
And I know that the Dolphin gentleman has a snake giveaway, so you can probably check his profile.
And when it comes to, like, giveaways and stuff for the space, you know, it's more of message Gem before throwing it up.
I know a lot of us want to get involved and really reward people for being here.
I definitely do appreciate it, Dolphin, for throwing in a giveaway.
Same thing with Hive.
You know, just go to their pages and check it out.
I know that Gem has a lot of spaces, so if you are interested in throwing in a giveaway, you know, feel free to contact him and be like, you know what, I'm interested in throwing $100 in your next space in Snake or Pepe or something.
And I'm pretty sure he would love that, you know, to give back to the community that comes here.
I mean, we've had consistently over 550 people in this space.
Man, this is my second time co-hosting with Gem and my first time with King really being up here.
And it's really just a pleasure.
This is a topic I'm very passionate about.
I'm very big on security.
I always try to educate people coming in, especially even people that have been here, to not rush.
You know, this – we made this – Gem made this space to teach people that we want to educate but at the same time just explains to you not to rush when you do things like this.
Rushing, you're going to make tons of mistakes.
You're going to lose money.
You're going to pay $50, $100 in gas.
I mean, in general, if you bought Pepe yesterday, which I, you know, was just looking at the quote, if you bought $200 in Pepe at the time when gas was $180, you were spending $90 on gas to buy that Pepe.
You know, if you have $300 in Pepe and you put in $20 and you made $300, if you're selling that, it's going to cost you $90 to $100 to sell it.
And people don't tell you that when you buy these meme coins.
So you're spending $30 or $200 in a meme coin and you're spending half the money that you made to sell it to get it.
You know, don't be that guy and understand that when you're buying these.
So as much as you want to do it cautiously and put in $30, understand if that $30 turns into $500, it's going to cost you a decent amount to sell it, especially if gas is going off, which we've been experiencing.
So people are selling their Pepe token.
Like I know somebody that sold like $40,000 in Pepe token and they paid like 0.3 to sell it.
Like that's crazy.
They'd rob you of like $600.
So just be aware that that happens when you're trading these coins that you've got to put that into consideration.
The same thing with NFTs.
If you buy an NFT and gas is up a lot, you buy a $30 NFT and you're looking to sell it, it's probably going to cost you $30 or $50 to sell it.
So you're already at a negative.
So you've got to make sure you put that in your mind before you sell these tokens or NFTs.
You've got to, you know, check that gas out, which has been a nightmare lately.
And honestly, Ethereum 2.0 was a scam.
That's unfortunate.
Maybe Ethereum 3.0 and 4.0 in the next two years might actually have some reduction in gas.
But it looks like the next bull run, we're going to be sitting at $300, $400 way to sell an NFT.
So I would love to just announce anybody building any projects here.
Take that shit to another chain.
ETH sucks.
Sorry.
I love ETH.
I'm a maxi.
But what they're doing here, it's not going to work for the long run to mint even coins in general.
Like who's going to buy a meme coin?
They got to spend $100 to even convert it.
So I like what they're doing over at Cardano.
I like what they're doing over at Sol.
It's introducing more platforms to get involved in either of these meme tokens and actually not have to pay an arm and a leg to get in.
So that's dope.
Go ahead, Mr. Dott.
And then we'll go let go.
Good afternoon.
Someone said not too long ago, you know, they were kind of comparing Snake and, excuse me, Pepe.
And of course, I feel like Pepe would definitely, at the moment, of course, have more of a catalyst just because it is getting those DEXs and things.
But one thing I will say about Snake is that being from Cardano, a lot of us know who Goofy is.
He's been around for a very long time.
He's been really transparent about how he's doing stuff.
He put out a lot of information about the coin.
I have some friends and stuff that are from different chains kind of asking me questions.
And so I would, you know, DM him all the information available and just point him in the right direction.
But I think that it will do well in the short term just because everyone does know who he is.
And he's just been around.
And it's always just been good vibes.
And the community that he's from, Chill Kong, has been through a lot over the last year and a half.
And so it's good to see, like, a lot of fun that, you know, he's bringing back to them and is bringing to the entire community.
And so I really do like the aspect of it because we needed it.
I mean, that's the thing about the space, man.
If you have somebody that's been here for a while and there's a handful of us, even in the listener's position, who I've known for 17, 18 plus months, you know, you build with those people.
And as much as I'm not tied into Cardano as much as I probably would like to be or some of these other chains, it's dope to know that somebody that's doing this is somebody that's been around for a minute.
Because it's the one reason why I don't really jump into stuff.
It's the reason why I didn't jump into Pepe.
It's the reason why I didn't jump into any of these other tokens, jugs, Pornhub token.
God, there's infinite of them.
I just didn't do it because it's too new.
And when something comes up like that, I'm not doing it.
I already sat in that boat before.
I did that, you know, my first bull run.
And even in the bear run after, I tried to trade some of this stuff even with the cell pressure.
And it just doesn't work.
You just have too many hands in the pot type situation.
So if you're investing in meme tokens, make sure that you don't drive yourself crazy.
Like people are literally losing sleep.
I was losing sleep last week and I wasn't even in it.
Like I know people that were literally setting up three, four days straight because if they went to sleep, they'd lose thousands of dollars.
I mean, they're not losing because there's a cycle there.
But, you know, in general, it drives people nuts and you don't want to get caught in that position.
So make sure if you're investing in these, you don't lose sleep over them.
And definitely don't do too many.
That would be my advice, especially when the bull run comes.
Don't invest in 10 different meme tokens you really have to watch to make sure they don't get rugged because you're just going to drive yourself crazy.
I did that with the altcoins and my first bull run and it was a nightmare.
I had like a portfolio of like 15 of them, you know, across two exchanges and I'd wake up and I would sit there and I would sell a few.
And then I would go out bowling for two hours and then the profit, like if I didn't sit in the sell order, it would just be an epic fail.
And I hate, I know it's lazy of me.
I should probably just sit in the sell orders, but I like to do it myself, which is also like really lazy because you never actually click the sell button.
But it's definitely something to look after.
Go ahead, Mr. Lego.
And then, yeah, I'm just going to say one last thing and I'll get down because otherwise I'll sit up here and talk all day.
And no matter what you say, I'm going to have something to say.
Like I just, my brain never stops.
But, you know, shout out to my boy down there, Issues in the crowd.
You know, he reminded me about this Issues.
If you give him a follow, this guy, he scours the charts.
He looks for all the low cap gems.
And I mean, I mean, this guy turns like, man, he turns like ETH into gold.
He turns ADA into silver.
It's insane what he does.
But one thing about Cardano, well, two things, I guess.
The one is you talked about gas.
We don't really have a gas issue on Cardano.
You know, you're looking at like 0.17 ADA, like 0.3 ADA for a transaction.
And then when you consider that you can send multiple assets, I mean, you can send literally thousands of NFTs or coins with one transaction.
It's exponentially, it's almost infinitely cheaper than ETH for the transaction.
The other thing about Cardano is we do not have a single coin listed on a major exchange right now.
So, when some of these coins do start hitting the exchanges, that's when the real action happens.
That's when the liquidity hits.
That's when, you know, when something hits Binance, when something hits KuCoin, when something hits one of these exchanges, that's when people really start seeing them, buying them.
Those exchanges actually have to buy those coins to provide liquidity.
So, that event in and of itself will pump the price.
And Cardano has a lot of tokens.
I mean, I've got a little bit of snake, but I've got a lot bigger bags of things like Meld and World Mobile Token and AGIX and you name it.
Like a lot of the Cardano, quote unquote, DeFi.
And I think in this next bull run, what we're really going to see is a Cardano DeFi summer.
We're going to see a lot of these coins that are on Cardano, coins like Compound and those things that were on ETH that just went crazy.
I think we're going to see that in the Cardano ecosystem.
Everything is down right now.
Now, entry points are good across the board.
Do yourself a favor.
Not financial advice, but if you're in this space, you're in this space to invest in these coins and invest in these cryptos.
Go to taptools.io.
Go to OpenCNFT.
Go to some of these Cardano sites.
Do some research.
And I just can't see how it's not going to work out in your favor.
I appreciate you having me up here.
I'm going to make room for some other people.
Shout out to all my homies down there in the audience.
And let's fucking go.
It was a pleasure meeting you, man.
I definitely follow you.
I like somebody that can sit on the stage and just go from topic to topic.
I have a big tangent-er when it comes to having conversations.
And if we get started, I'll keep going.
So definitely come hang out with us more for sure.
Go ahead, Sal.
I invited some more people up.
Please raise your hand.
We're coming towards the end-ish.
I don't know if we're going to go another 30 minutes or so.
But if you have any questions related to the topic, security, Pepe Snake, you know, like I said, jump into the Snake Discord.
Get to know their community a little bit better.
Get to know more about the team that they have behind the token.
It seems like it's on the move.
That could be a gem scope pump.
But we're definitely here to educate at the same time.
As much as we joke around, we say we're pumping coins.
This is a legitimate platform that we're offering here, you know, just to give people a bit more insight on Pepe token and the meme coins and just kind of just direct you in the right way, not just jump on board and buy something.
I hope if you were listening here, you grabbed a little bit of what we were talking about on the sense of securities on the top of, like, just being patient and taking your time when you're jumping in and don't jump into euphoria.
I know a lot of people caught the top of Pepe because they were, you know, they were FOMO-ing out.
And definitely don't want to get caught in that position because then you'll be losing more sleep.
But go ahead, Sal.
And if you're coming up, Zach and other gentlemen, raise your hand, please, so we can keep the people rotating.
I appreciate it.
Hey, guys.
Yeah, I just wanted to remind you guys, I pinned it up top, that the SNEC team is doing a giveaway for the people in the space.
Looks like it has about 450 retweets, which is pretty insane.
So especially if you guys are heading towards wrapping up, it might be, you know, a good time to get that done.
Yeah, I'm ready to do a giveaway if you want.
So I've already brought three winners.
So if you're in this space, just say hi, and I'll send you the SNEC.
So we're giving away one million SNEC per people, and we will have three price.
So one million SNEC is about a little bit above $100 USD currently.
So the first guy is Adanimo, and all is Warbringer.
Warbringer?
Is he there?
I'm really bad at searching people in the crowd, even though there's, like, a box for that.
I know there's, like, a search option to see if they're in here.
You see them.
If you're in the crowd, maybe raise your hand, maybe come up.
There's three giveaways for $100 in SNEC.
Look, he's coming up.
There we go.
So there we got one person.
All right, go ahead and call out some more.
Okay, perfect.
So just send us a DM, and we'll –
I'll let you up, too, if you want to say hello.
You're more than welcome to say hello, but congratulations to the first winner.
Just DM the account.
But go ahead, sir.
Right.
Next guy is PewPewSupSwap.
And the third guy is DDKong.
Perfect.
So if your name was mentioned, DM the gentleman if you want to come up and say something,
say some words, say how you're excited to get into a Cardano meme coin, let us know.
But we'll move over to the hand that's raised here.
I saw your message in the back.
I'm trying to keep up with the messages.
You know, to get into SNEC, it costs you $1 at gas.
So I don't – it's probably very true.
It's probably very, very low.
But definitely check it out.
If you want to trade a meme token that's not going to cost you $100 to buy and sell it,
this is a good time to practice, too.
If you want to get into a meme token that has a better backing and actually has a community behind it,
this is a good test if you missed Pepe and you really just want to dabble in something,
not only fun, that could actually grow really well.
This is a really good opportunity.
But go ahead, sir.
You had your hand raised.
I let you up.
What's up, man?
Hey.
What's going on, guys?
So, yeah.
I did want to highlight – thanks for highlighting that.
Just to be a little bit more technical on it, you know, the fee is like 0.16 ADA,
which is like whatever, six cents.
But there's a 2 ADA fee for the transaction on the DEXs.
So you add that together.
It's like less than a buck.
You get to get into a coin, get out of a coin.
You know, instead of spending like 30 on gas, you're spending 30,
and most of that value is in the token.
And so I love that, you know, and I did join Crypto in about late 2020.
No, wait.
Yeah, late 2020.
And I was on ETH at first and went through the whole meme coin rally.
And, you know, I got to give it up to Pepe for really that whole community
starting the meme coin rally for this year.
Who would have thought in this, like, economic condition that this would have
happened at this time?
And, you know, I think it's great.
All the points that were mentioned regarding, like, communities actually being
formed instead of, like, some shady telegrams.
Speaking of shady, I did get my first bot shill of some, like, copycat snek coin.
So that's always bullish when you start seeing some of those start coming out.
But, you know, I got to give a lot of love to the ETH family.
I started in ETH with NFTs and coins.
Turbo's got a great story as well.
You know, I got into a meme coin called Lit late 2021.
Got in, like, six hours when it launched, and it went up, like, 37x.
I did sell some, but I was mostly bag holding to the bottom.
So that's the other thing, you know, make sure you have a dollar cost average up strategy,
especially if you're in Cardano, you could do that because you could throw in 30 bucks
at certain levels on retracements and, you know, try to play that game.
It's a little harder on ETH unless you get a lot of money.
But, you know, it's a lot of fun.
I think people are having fun.
I think everybody's doing great.
Don't fall for any scams.
Don't just, you know, make sure you have a community of people to, you know, kind of
don't follow anybody's advice.
But if you're new to crypto in general or meme coins, try to follow along with some people
that you actually trust.
Take everything with a word of salt, with a grain of salt, and do your own research.
But Snek, man, I think Snek is going to be the outlier for Cardano.
I still think that, you know, you know, here's a question, actually.
I don't know if anybody knows this, but what are the steps to actually get listed onto
a major, like, centralized exchange?
And, like, you know, can Cardano have one?
I know, you know, certainly there's a path for any kind of ERC-20 token.
But, you know, I don't know what the steps are.
Like, what do the founders have to do in order to get listed?
That's a good question.
On the end of, you know, a different chain token.
Like, how does Kig or Snek get onto, like, Coinbase?
I don't know.
Do you guys have anybody from that project know, like, I mean, when it comes to listings,
it usually just happens by the exchange themselves because they see the noise.
I mean, lately, just Pepe and even looking at Shiba, it was just a demand.
People were just on Twitter, like, when exchange, when exchange.
So I think if any of these coins in general do well, even if they're on another chain,
they're going to have no reason not to add them.
I think Binance, that has a better forefront to add multi-chain coins, you might see it go there first.
But just converting, right?
I think you can convert them through Coinbase Wallet and MetaMask using another chain.
Obviously, you might have to change the option over to Cardano and not on ETH.
But there's a scroll down menu in that, in the wallets.
So it's probably just as easy when it comes to it.
But it also has to be added to that wallet first.
So, I don't know.
I guess Uniswap and some of the other exchanges would probably be the goal,
is to go on to some of the smaller ones.
But the bigger ones, it will probably just happen naturally.
But, yeah.
All right.
All right, Jeff, what do you think?
I think there's, like, a few more requests.
But we're coming down.
And I don't know if I should – I guess we could let up another person or two.
But I let up some of you guys already.
Sorry, sorry, Shiba.
I just let up Europe.
He's got a lot to say about Pepe Token.
I'm interested to hear what he has to say as well.
But we are closing the space soon.
For anybody that wanted to come up, this is kind of your last call to come up here.
And it's been an incredible space.
Always big shout-out to Gemscope for hosting the platform.
Incredible, just super educative, kind of unbiased opinions floating around here.
And that's what you want to see.
It's not always, yeah, we want to see these things succeed.
We want to see Snack do good.
We want to see Pepe to the moon.
But, you know, provide those unbiased opinions where everybody can actually get that quality content.
You know, what do you need to be looking out for?
What are certain signals?
You know, how can you manage your investment even further than just buying the token so that you can take the most advantage of, you know, your trading in the space?
But what's up, Europe?
How are we doing today?
Hey, what's going on, guys?
Thanks for letting me up.
I won't take too much of the time since you guys are wrapping up.
But I do want to kind of share something with the crowd that I feel like, for myself, being someone that really likes to weigh in a lot of, like, risk analysis, this is something that kind of keeps me above water and makes me feel real content about the investment.
One thing is just, like, looking at numbers.
Numbers don't really lie.
You can look at, like, Twitter feed.
You can look at, like, the hopium and the crowded room that everyone's kind of talking positivity and get really lost in the sauce.
But just, like, some real concrete numbers that can stick with you is, one, the potential of just, like, the market cap.
When you look at Doge and you look at Shiba Inu, just, like, two people that have pivoted in this meme culture and they kind of paved the road for this whole thing.
An example I made before was, like, LeBron James, or not LeBron James, Michael Jordan jumping from the free throw line and it being super impressive in 1989 or 1988.
And today, people are doing that same thing over cars while doing backflips.
You know what I mean?
So, you look at what Shiba Inu did, you look at Doge, and you look at their current values right now on top of what their current, like, their all-time highs were, which, just putting the numbers out there, it was $90 billion all-time high for Doge, and it was $40 billion all-time high for Shiba Inu.
So, you just kind of think what the possibilities are, and you kind of weigh that risk and reward, and you're like, okay, we're at $1 billion.
I mean, I think Pepe can at least sauce $10 billion, and that's being conservative, and that's not even, like, really crazy.
But also, you'd have to factor in what period of time we're in.
Are we in a bull market?
Are we just emerging into a bull market?
Are we still in a bear market?
So, you kind of look at all that pieces.
But then the other thing you look at is holder count.
Something like fucking SafeMoon has 2 million holders.
What the hell is SafeMoon, man?
Like, that thing is like a snore fest.
I mean, we have 100,000, and no offense if you still hold SafeMoon, but at the same time, Broski or Lady, you know, what the fuck?
You know, you're doing it wrong, Anon.
But back on track, I think, like, you know, someone like that that can hold 2 million wallets and something like Pepe that only has 100 or just over 100,000 wallets, you kind of just see the running room.
So, anytime I see these dips or anytime I see any, you know, whether it's FUD from TMOS or kind of anything like that or any of your influencers online, you kind of just look and think, like, no, this is fucking early as fuck, actually.
If you zoom out, it doesn't look like this thing's dying down.
And it's already done some pretty spectacular things, like, contrary to what many people have thought, whether it was going to die before 100 million market cap or it was going to die before $1 billion market cap, or was it even going to reach 100 million, or is it just going to be a, you know, a dead, you know, dead, I can't think of an analogy, but we're just going to say a dead Pepe in the back barn.
You know, this thing, you know, it's doing some amazing things.
So, I think I just wanted to kind of share that point.
If I can jump on that for one second.
So, I actually pinned up a post comparing, like, the market caps of some of the bigger coins that are running now.
And, yeah, obviously, I definitely agree with you on SafeMove, although I did buy it back in the day, I must admit.
As you should.
So, yeah, of course, back then you had to, but the market caps of some of the bigger coins, and I compared them, I mean, and the Snack account compared them, so I posted it up.
So, it's actually pretty cool looking at that.
I mean, I put it, it was put up, like, in the context of, like, like a BitBoy poll, because, like, we did pretty well on that.
But it's still pretty crazy to look at it, like, you know, the different coins and, you know, the potential there.
Like, it's just, you just never know with meme coins, that's the bottom line.
Like, nothing, nothing really makes sense.
That's the whole space you got on, my friend.
You know, supply and demand is what this space is about.
So, you can clearly see that there was a demand in Pepe token.
There's a demand in Snake.
There's a demand in King.
There's a demand in some of these random coins that, at current, it's random, it's new.
We don't know what it is, but if you actually put some time to learn about these projects, there's a little bit more.
And just like we said earlier in the space, like, it's just a different way of building something.
We've seen it with NFTs.
We've seen it in the past on how coins are done.
And I felt like it was always just, you jump in early and you get lucky, or you jump in late and then you have to hopefully ride a wave.
So, there's definitely a lot to think about and a lot to take from the space.
We're just going to close comments here.
I'll go to Dolphins, Jay, then back to King, then back to Sheba, and then we're closing this bad boy.
So, go ahead, Dolphin.
What up?
30 seconds.
We're just going to continue this conversation afterwards, so I know we're going to have a few people continue this because I know you're closing it down.
That's all.
I'm in there.
I'm dipping for a little bit.
If anybody up here, especially part of Snake or Cardano in general, like, I love to just be involved in conversations on cross-chain spaces.
So, if you're hosting anything, just send it to me.
I might not be able to get it there all the time, but it'll at least give me a feel of what you guys are up to, and I like to get involved more, especially in something that Jem's a part of.
I've known Jem for a long time.
He's a dear friend.
So, I always do my research, and this is always recommended across the board when you come to any space.
Please do your own research and, like I said, safely navigate through these tokens using wallets and everything we've discussed today.
But, in general, this has been a very good space and good conversation.
But go ahead, Jack.
Yeah, pleasure meeting you all.
Pleasure meeting you all, for sure.
Yeah, I just wanted to go back to something you had mentioned a little bit earlier, Shiva, about how sort of, like, you're an Ethereum maxi, you would call yourself, but you're willing to check out some other stuff.
And I would call myself kind of a Cardano maxi.
Most people that know me, I work at JPEG stores, which is the NFT marketplace, the largest NFT marketplace on Cardano.
And I've been a big fan of Cardano as a software engineer.
The technology is awesome.
But the important thing is that if you're limiting yourself to only one ecosystem, one particular chain, you're missing out on so many potential opportunities.
Whether that's as a builder or as somebody that's trying to buy meme coins or looking at NFTs, it's really important to keep in mind that Web3 is so much bigger than just your chain.
And if you're staying in your ecosystem, you're going to be missing out on a lot of things.
The Ethereum community loves to meme the Cardano.
Nobody uses it.
There's a lot of issues with it.
But there's actually a lot of benefits to checking out Cardano, maybe buying Snek, maybe buying some meme coins, maybe buying some NFTs, whatever it is.
But, you know, there's also benefits on Ethereum that Cardano doesn't have.
So every chain has pros and cons and limiting yourself to just one community.
You're missing out on a lot of really good opportunities to meet amazing people, find really cool projects and make a little bit of money on the side.
You're 100% correct as somebody who's pivoted from shit coins to mainstream cryptos to NFTs to blue chips.
To literally brand new meme tokens, anything is possible in Web3.
So definitely testing things at work.
I mean, another example would be me never buying another NFT off ETH.
And then I got peer pressured by Hive Enough being with them.
You know, he's like, why don't you get a Sol NFT?
And I'm like, you know what, Sol's down 98%.
Probably a good buy.
Like, regardless of what the NFTs are, as long as they pick a good ecosystem, I felt like it would do well.
And that's just something to think about.
I know we're on meme token talk and prices are different.
But when you're looking at NFTs and you're trying to get involved in other ecosystems, look at ones that are well established, that have been around for a while.
And see if you can get yourself a good entry.
Because the token is down.
We're still in a bear market.
Do I think Sol can get back to $200, $300, $400 to go to $1,000?
It's very, very possible.
And it's very, very likely that it will return to its all-time high and break through it like some of these other tokens, like ADA.
Like, you know, we're talking Pepe, Chiba.
It doesn't matter what token it is.
But they will revisit their all-time highs.
And if you're able to get in these ecosystems early, you could ride them.
You could ride them.
I mean, man, I got a youth for $700.
Look where it's at now.
I probably should have sold it at two and a half ETH.
But it's whatever.
It's still up a good profit on it.
It's the same thing with Pepe.
You know, people are riding the wave as long as it looks healthy.
And, you know, we know what's going on.
It's all right.
But you've got to be careful, is the dot-com here.
You've got to make sure that if you're in it, you manage your risk versus reward.
Definitely dabble in some other chains.
I've definitely said some mean things about some other cryptos.
As much as I don't like some of these other coins, I feel like the development on a lot of these other coins are really shitty,
especially the ones that have been around since 2017.
But because of the cycle that's coming, a lot of money will return into these coins,
regardless of what type of, you know, actual utility that they're bringing or any type of upgrade in what they're doing in their contracts.
But, all right.
King, you want to close out any comments before we go?
Jem, it's been a pleasure.
King, it's been a pleasure hanging out with you.
Go ahead, bud.
Absolute pleasure, my man.
You know, Jemscope hosts an incredible platform for everybody here.
I hope you enjoyed your time today.
Make sure that you're hitting up our hosts, co-hosts out here.
Press that follow button.
Hit that little notification reminder so that you're staying up to date on any of the upcoming giveaways,
Twitter spaces, any alpha to be shared out here.
And follow your neighbors up, down, left, right.
You know, this is your network in Web3.
Like Sheba just said, we are still in a bear market.
And that doesn't mean that only there's so much opportunity for investment right now.
But there's so much opportunity to grow your network, you know, expand your intelligence within the space
and be able to be somebody that, you know, is looked up to as we, you know, continue to onboard more people into Web3.
Also, I wouldn't be, you know, king if I didn't, you know, soft shill Pepe Ape Yacht Club.
So, also, if you're wanting to get involved in a very strong community that's incredibly genuine in the space, you know,
consider Pepe Ape Yacht Club.
We empower decentralization.
We empower the people.
We pride ourselves in giving, you know, opportunity to our community.
Check out the Pepe Ape Yacht Club account.
Check out the pinned tweet.
We have some incredible stuff coming.
I see Elja Boom in the building.
Shout out to you, Forbes, 40 under 40.
Elja has a Pepe, and he's not rocking it as his PFP.
So, everybody needs to go tag him as well and get him to rock it as his PFP.
But, you know, incredible space as usual.
Super sick to hear more about the Cardano blockchain.
I'm not super versed in that.
And to hear all about the SNET stuff, you can really tell that there's a super powerful community that stands behind this.
And that is like a really nice signal for myself here.
So, it's been super cool to hear about that.
And, you know, as always, I'm looking forward to the next one, Gemscope.
There's so much alpha in here.
So much good conversation.
And, you know, I'm all for having, you know, as many spaces like this as we can, where there's so many communities involved.
There's so many people that stand behind different things in the market.
But we're coming together.
We're, you know, providing, you know, you know, that collective consensus about different topics around the space that are relative to all of us at the same time.
But incredible space.
And before we close out, Sal, what do you got to say, my man?
I just wanted to come out and, you know, thank you guys.
It was one of the more enjoyable cross-chain spaces.
You know, I've been in.
Really good conversation.
Definitely going to be joining more Gemscope spaces in the future.
And I think a lot of people in the crowd, maybe that are from Cardano, will be joining that as well.
I did pin up to the top the, you know, the guide to joining Snack if people are interested.
You know, check that out.
Join the Discord.
Hang out with the people.
Go cross-chain a little.
But anyways, thanks so much for having me, guys.
Let's go.
I appreciate you for being here.
Across the board, the Cardano community, Snake, Gem.
King.
I want to shout out King a little extra here.
I've known King forever.
Pepe Club, the NFT project in general, has been out way before even Pepe was a thing.
At least the coin.
I know the meme's been around for a while.
So he's been doing a really good job with that community.
It's literally, how old is the project?
I know you've been around for a few months at this point.
It's probably longer than that.
But is the year coming up?
Am I, did I miss the year?
Yeah.
We're actually just over 10 months.
So we're approaching our year anniversary pretty soon here.
We got some crazy special stuff planned.
So, hey, trying to tap in a little early on the alpha.
That's definitely your little signal right there.
I already know.
I don't talk to King in the back.
This is transparency when it comes to knowing what's going on.
But I can definitely feel what could possibly come into that project in general.
Not even with just Pepe token, but what you guys are building.
I've known King forever.
He does a real good job.
Honest.
You know, he's here to be transparent.
I mean, even like King said, we're a big part of Web3.
And I don't like the word to use, influencers.
But we maneuver around the space, not only cautiously, but we try to do it in a respectful manner.
You know, if we're going to shill, we're going to shill something that I did the research on.
I know King does his research on.
And I know Jem will come to me like, Shiba, have you heard of this?
So we have conversations with each other.
That's important.
Make sure you're having conversations when you're coming into Web3.
Not only with NFTs, but some of these coins.
So if you're going to take anything from this space, closing comments is take your time.
Be patient.
If you're being educated, make sure you're re-educating.
If you don't want to go through the re-educating process, tell them to come to Jen's space.
Tell them to come to Coffee and Bananas.
I run the show an hour every day, Monday through Friday.
We go through random topics.
It could be NFTs.
It could be Pepe.
You can ask me any question related to altcoin market memes.
I'll run it through with you.
You can even DM me and be like, Shiba, look at this coin.
If I don't get back to you immediately, I promise I try to answer all my DMs on Twitter.
And it's open.
So if you want to contact me or ask any questions on the snake end, I'm pretty sure I could direct
you in some directions for it.
But other than that, we're closing with Pepe.
Snake, go ahead.
Snake, finish your comment and we're going to close with the Pepe song and then we'll end
this bad boy.
Yeah, thank you very much for having us.
It's been awesome.
So yeah, just check us through our project.
It's snake.sneccoinada.
We have a big Twitter page and join our Discord as well.
So yeah, awesome guys.
Let's go.
It was a pleasure.
Thank you for all the little giveaways, everybody that was involved, anybody who won.
Congratulations.
Make sure you DM the account and get it situated.
And once again, definitely check out the Discord where you're going to find information.
Follow Jem, King, me.
Follow some of the speakers up here on the ADA platform.
Between me, King, and Jem, we offer a lot in this space when it comes to education.
So definitely follow us.
Thank you, Jem, for letting us co-host and being part of security and meme token space.
Here's a little Pepe on the way out.
Thank you, guys.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
