Hey guys, you guys hear me. All right
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Yeah, yeah, I think we can start
Are we good to announce? Yeah, why not? Let's do it
Okay, cool, let's speed it first before making the announcement yeah, I
Think I think they're not expecting the way we're gonna announce this
In insanely insanely great value for both perplexity users and rabbit are one holder. So
All right, let's let me just go ahead and breathe
Alright so we're gonna start a conversation in a bit
But first of all, we will both perplexity and rabbit official account will tweet about the announcement
So we're ready when you are wait for a tweet and then we can start a conversation
So I'm pretty excited to share that
perplexity and rabbit are partnering together
So we are excited to power
real-time precise answers for rabbit are one
using our perplexity online LLM APIs that have no knowledge cut off just always plug into a search index and
The first hundred thousand rabbit are one purchases will also get one year free of perplexity pro
Where that came from I didn't know that spaces have that feature but yeah continue everyone
Okay, yeah, the first hundred thousand rabbit are in purchases are gonna get one year free of perplexity pro
So it's basically like perplexity pro one year free is 200 bucks
So if you paid 200 bucks of purchase a rabbit are running you're getting twice the value
Yeah, so we you know, we had an interaction on X a
Then what's going on the next is the following couple days teams being working really hard together to make this happen
And I think you know to me as a no-brainer if you think about, you know rabbit are one would press at 199
No, actually not 200 but one hundred ninety nine dollars. No subscription
And the perplexity errand is generous enough to offer a
Preface to pro pro for a whole year
That was actually 200 bucks. So, you know, that's that's one extra bucks
On top of it. So but I want to share a little bit
you know background what's going on because
To us, you know, we've been huge fans of capacity from day one since the launch, you know
Even though I haven't got a chance to talk to you
Everyone personally, but you know, we are pretty early
Start out that we started trying to to test their API's
You know, so we are their customers too. Anyway, so I think
What's most impressed me about and and you know quite ironically?
It's the same reason that why we are so disappointed with you know other
Oh, I'm so there, you know for instance, you know, GPs and and tropic is that they did very very poorly on
what they call white browsing or up-to-date search and
That's when we realized and we found perplexity and we immediately do the test round
That was like many many years ago. I started many many months ago and and
The results were you sending good
It beats all the other guys out of water. So
Even though the way that we we connected and we established this partnership is totally new
Determined to happen, you know, at least from my perspective because our angle is to bring the best
Experiences to this little piece of device and you know, we choose whoever is the best in an industry
And I think right now up-to-date information search and general knowledge, you know
I think max T is definitely the culture choice and I noticed on the Twitter thread as well
You know, a lot of people are replacing this
Replacing the Google search with propensity and that's certainly also my case
So I just want to talk from you know, be a customer myself being a user myself. That's my angle
Why this deal makes perfect sense? Yeah
So actually for a lot of people might not know here the way the whole part thing came together was
I think I posted something that's so fun with the rabbit every I think everyone on Twitter was just taking your
Rabbit device and like posting their product on it on the screen
And then you looked at it and you were like, let's work together
Code treated me then I put with you and then you just made it official on Twitter
So we never even actually exchanged emails or anything of that nature or got intros in the traditional way the whole
thing came together just by
Uh people being excited for us to work together
So what do you have to say about that? And I guess you're also like, you know going viral on Twitter
or rather you should call it x here and
How you know you've grown so so fast like so quickly. So
How are you thinking about all this?
Yeah, so yeah, we're we're in fact a little bit over one in the past couple days. We saw basically rabbit r1
Uh every day is another ten thousand
So right now as we're speaking the fifth batch, which is the first fifty thousand units are being sold out
Um, that's that means that we're you know, fifty percent already
Uh at the uh top a hundred k, uh, but what I also want to share a little bit
So that's like ten ten million dollars in sales. Yeah, ten million dollars in five days
But uh, I think you know what we are currently doing is that you know, now we have a pretty good understanding of the demand
Uh, we already pretty communicated with our logistics
Uh, you know regarding to the oem oem and want to make sure they catch up with the speed
So I think you know after this fifty thousand, uh units, uh, the future will no longer distinguish in batches
What we're going to do is that we're going to basically work with the oem oem and our own internal hardware team
To catch up with the speed so that you know, we are no longer facing this, you know, one month one month shipping
That hard date march 31st, which is easter. We're going to start shipping the first batch
I'm going to do our best to ship all the future batches as early as we can
Um, and and that's the the best we can do at the moment
Hopefully, you know our partnership will further incentive that uh, because really if you just do simple math, you know, a hundred dollar nine
Uh, that's not too hard to understand but you know more importantly it's not about the money it's about you're getting
experiences, you know, you know very very
well-designed and intuitive device with you know, not only
What gpts can offer what the other devices can offer but with large action models running behind
So I think it's quite promising and speaking of the deal
I think you know everyone i'm not sure if you agree with me, but we it seems like we accidentally invented a new type of
Uh that happens on twitter with
Cold retreat, I don't think any you know
Major players have ever done that so fast and and have ever done that in such manner
So I want to hear what your thoughts on it almost starts with the medium and then we quickly make it official and we quickly
Make it work on our devices and then here we have the partnership announcement within a week. So what's your thought on that?
I mean we we love working with you because you move incredibly fast
Like the moment you told you want to work together
immediately, we started a slack channel and then
Your team started hacking on this and you sent me a demo like uh, and then you know
We got energized looking at the demo. We were like hey
Like these guys work fast like as fast or even faster than us and we used to think we work fast
But obviously after seeing you we think we can do even better
And then we want to make our apis even faster
So maybe I want to lead from there to like, you know your thoughts on the whole
Voice to voice form factor, right?
Uh, because the the rabbit device is not is definitely taking us beyond just consuming
Screens and text and in the form of pixels to like just interacting more naturally
So what are your thoughts on like the next stage of?
How people consume and interact with all these ai chatbots and assistants? Yeah, so I think you know, um
Being our age, you know, we grow up
Um, unfortunately where the dictation engine were never invented and then it was invented
And it was putting use in a horrible way
That I think our current generation are victims of the of the early days of the dictation
Dictation engine early days of the national under processing before large random model, of course and transform
Uh and all that so I think you know me personally I identify myself
As probably along with everyone here is a ptsd with
With the early version of the dictation dictation engine. Uh, that's why I guess, you know, it creates such a strong impact
On our mind that okay, maybe voice is not the right way to go. I'd rather prefer type
It's very simple. Is that
What's the most intuitive way for communication, right? Like think about everyone if we convert this twitter spaces
into a type twitter spaces or into uh, you know, even worse like a
A fax twitter spaces not non-instant message twitter spaces
I I don't think that you know, we can deliver all this information in a relatively short period of time. Um,
so so, you know if you think about how human communicate communicates with human and
You know before I guess before the neural link stuff
become put in use and and natural language, especially
Conversation in voice is still to be the
Now the problem becomes easy because we just need to fix the ptsd
But I think if you if you look at the past three four years, um, probably like especially past past three years
uh, a lot of the fundamental infrastructure around that has been significantly improved to where
You know the younger generation especially i'm not sure if if
Uh, i'm not sure if you know, how many of the listeners here got like probably like five year old six year old seven year old kid
But the younger generation that they were born like, you know after I guess after 2010
I see among all the kids that you know
Uh, the the dictation icon on the keyboard rather than start typing
So I think that the the use behavior
In a different generation is already start shifting and of course the fundamental reason is because of lot of these
Infrastructure are good enough are redundant enough
Um, so for us, you know, we are not saying that yo, you can only talk to r1 if you shake the r1 keyboard will pop up
But if you think about the most intuitive way and if you're in a rush
There's nothing better than just find that analog button press and hold and start talking
Uh, so I guess that's the our design principle, you know, we understand the current challenges of difficulties
But we want to push just a little bit further because the the method is not wrong, right?
The approaching is not wrong. It's the it feels wrong because the technology won't ready
But I think in the past three four years a lot of infra has been significantly achieved
Uh to where we're confident now enough to build uh, you know device like r1 is full factor
Yeah, that's that that's cool and like I also want to like, you know lead you to like a follow-up question there which is
What do you what do you think about today's latency?
And what do you think the latency for voice to voice is going to look like?
Um, maybe you know like six months from now or a year from now. Yeah
Um, I think that's a major like major major task here
Uh, I was actually talking to our engineer team
I think we should have a special force team
Just to focus on the latency on all the features not only not only on search features, but on all the features
I'll share a story. So I built a
app like many many years ago
It was primarily launched in asia because we have partnerships with the music labels back in asia
And it was not launched here and the app is extremely extremely simple
It's just the entire screen is a button you press and pull and you talk and the music starts playing
And we did a lot of a lot of a lot of work in the back end to make sure that music play
Starts playing the first piece starts playing within a second
Uh 800 minute something to be exact
And that that app just accidentally went viral because of the speed like we we didn't create any additional features compared to you know
A traditional spotify or traditional app music cool music
Um, we just did that, you know voice plus sub second response time
um, and another thing we did is that you know, you can we we basically use natural language processing to
parse every part of the lyrics so that you can literally just you know
Run more part of the lyrics and it still matches the song
So that's basically all the things we did
But I think you know the hugely benefit from the subsecond response and that lesson
You know keeps in my heart so hard and and then we kind of like when we design a rabbit os
Subseconds is always our goal
But if you look at the reality right now
We can we can we already i'm sure a lot of people see the demos and post on the
On twitter and on discord, uh, you know, I demonstrate to play a song, you know, that's on par with subsecond latency
I think in reality, you know search web browsing search up to the information
And also the some of the vision features like the GPD for vision provides and our own, you know vision features provides
You know, sometimes it takes two seconds. Sometimes it takes more than that vision probably, you know
The first demo showed probably take like 15 seconds
And we have another version that now currently take about seven seconds
So those are things i'm not happy with but I think you know latency shouldn't be feature by feature latency should be a universal bar
For natural natural language, you know interaction with any devices
and I remember I read a paper I probably can find that paper later on and post it on my twitter, but
There's a research on human brain understand and and handle natural language in speed wise
I think you know, there's a couple of couple of the different languages and it can differ very very differently like I think japanese
As well as a couple of other language you actually process that information faster because of how the language is structured but I think
Uh 500 milliseconds should be like the golden bar like I I did couple of tests internally. I think 500 milliseconds
Natural language voice response is is the golden bar
Like you don't want to be slower than that
But you don't also want to be faster than that be faster than that people stare off because because they think that oh you produce and then you
Your ear is scary and like you you you answer my question ahead of time
But if if it's if it's slower than maybe like, you know
800 milliseconds and people will confuse and try to you know, ask the same question again
uh, you know knowing that maybe it's an artwork issue or maybe you didn't like that
The voice right so I think 500 milliseconds is kind of like a universal benchmark that we're trying to hit on
That's kind of like my and yeah
And where would you consider your you know, whatever latency you have today?
How do you compare that with you know other?
Similar apps like chat gpt voice to voice like have you have you tried?
Comparing to yeah, so we did have a technology we call kernel that we started working on this pretty early
More than two years that would basically establish a streaming model
Because if you think about why there's a latency
So if you if you press this button the microphone starts recording and you're recording in
in an audio file and that audio file needs to be converted into
Um strings and strings send it to the dictation engine
Uh, or tts text to speech. Sorry speech text actually speech to text engine
And convert to text and then that text then into uh, open ui
chat gbc api or perplexity api or whatever
large-handed model for intentional understanding
And then a start generating based on their speed and then it's a round trip, right?
This is a single trip and everything refers again
So if you add all this together, uh, if you just go there and build a voice ai with no optimization
Based off gpt for we know for a fact that single dialogue you're looking at probably five to six seconds
But we we made a streaming model to where you know, we basically cut off the chunks
Timestamp chunks and would make the the entire model streaming. I I think i'm not the best guy to talk about this
Maybe our cto later on can you know write something about this?
But we do have a technology make the make the sequence into a streaming. We're not necessarily accelerating gpt or
perplexity speed at the moment
But with this streaming mechanism that uh, you know, if you ask non-search up-to-date information where comes we're constantly
Hitting the benchmark which is 500 second minute 500 milliseconds per response
Um, but I wish you know, uh, everyone I wish our team you and me can do something
Just just on up-to-date information search and maybe we can push this far a little bit because again
This is whatever we're going to push. This is going to be industrial standard
Because right now absolutely right now this it is what it is. Yeah
absolutely, yeah, we are we are certainly at the cutting edge here and
In fact, like the fact that you wanted to do it through streaming that already makes it much
Like the perceived latency is already a lot better than waiting for the full response
And um, you know, I think there are so many more things we can do to speed it up
So I also want to talk to you about you know, you selling
50,000 units in five days
Um, it there was a tweet from daniel grows
Uh, where he said for context the ipod sold 125,000 in the first quarter
And ipod is considered a historically successful product
Uh sold like 270,000 in the first 48 hours. So it's obviously like, you know
Way more looking at looking at the pace the trajectory. It's likely going to beat the ipod for the whole quarter. Yeah, and
Well, so obviously you're you know
There's going to be high expectations for the next device you're going to make and so what are what are your plans for our r2 or?
Further devices in future. Yeah. So, um, first of all, I think yeah
I I didn't quite know that number until I saw that tweet and that makes my head spin for for a sec
But I also realized that you know, we're talking about no internet no twitter versus the internet twitter
I mean we're spread at a different pace of speed, right?
So, uh, I don't think we're outperforming. Uh, I thought at the moment where we're a very very young startup
And this is our first generation device when apple launch app
They have like a tremendous history of setting up the bar and make everything iconic
Pretty much everything they did, you know sets a bar
So so first of all, i'm not delusional just by the numbers that we're getting for the first couple days
We're not delusional that that we're arrogant enough thinking that okay, this is better than apple
Uh cells performance-wise because you know, the time is changing and they don't have social media whatsoever. So
I would assume if apple has social media back then and probably gonna be way more than that because uh,
and from that angle, you know to to to to your question and to your point is that
We are I don't think anyone is certain of which form factor will be the best
I just I just saw uh, mark zuckerberg
Twitter today about he talks talks about open source of llama 3 that they were developing
and on the end of the the mini clip he said
He said he believes that glasses are the best form factor because he sees what you see and listen to
I I don't quite agree with that. I I think you know
Or no one should have the confidence before they even test it on on the user's hand and say, okay
This is the best form factor. Um
The hardware decision of r1 is not
Pushing the edges on all the components
But the other way around quite quite contrary is the other way it's deep. It's a result of the risk
You know, like because we are new and the operating system and you the entire ai stuff is new
What's the best form factor either?
Uh, and plus there's a lot of latency issues, of course
So we don't want to risk presenting a completely new way of interacting with devices plus
Security of oh, this is complete new form factor and you have to learn from start how to use it
And and that's why we design r1 we think about okay
We need to present something that you already familiar with but in a new way
And that's that's where I extremely i'm so happy
Uh that communities are are getting it because the first thing I did is I bought nine tomacochi
For my entire design team and engineer team back then we're we're even smaller than today
But it was about a year a year and a half ago
I bought nine tomacochi from amazon and I I I I sent them as a gift. I'm like, hey, this is what we're making
And then obviously, you know, we all love the pokedex and no one have yet made a made a pokedex yet
So I think you know, we want to bring that culture
You know relevance to you
The the most efficient and highly redundant form factor of voice dictation and voice
Commines and word voice interaction is not a wake word. Uh, I don't like wake word
Because I was I was at one time
in a meeting with a couple of amazon folks
and obviously we're talking about alexa and obviously they keep saying alexa and the entire meeting become a mayhem because
They all have alexa speaker around and and then all whole bunch of alexa start talking each other and and and that's very very dumb
Um, so I don't I don't want to wait for and then what if you don't have wake word and you think about what's being
What's being already in use right?
And then I I think I have another example. I'm like, okay, think about what's the most crucial scenario that you need to use voice and voice only
The modern warfare right the the soldiers and the military folks
They're in their fight or dying, but they all have this very redundant designed
One button no, nothing just one big button right next to their chest or right on their headset
And you you're not pushing and waiting for a activation sound and you start talking and then automatically detect when you when you're off
You have to push and hold it and then on civilian market. Yeah, it's even more
Comment. It's called walkie-talkie
We all know that and we all have that
So I guess that's why we combine all these elements together
To to put in those thoughts and and that eventually set the the phone factor of r1
We want to offer you a modern version of tomahkochi and pokedex power by ai
But with a very redundant push-talk button that you probably already know how to use
Yeah, that's very insightful like I I didn't I didn't realize that your
rationale for having the button was to
You know not get into this problem where there's a whole room of people using a bunch of devices
Devices and all of them are calling them out by their name
Yeah, so that yeah, that that makes a lot of sense
And so look, I mean the other thing, you know, it's obviously
Uh, you know, we we've been sort of building this in public. Uh, I mean first of all
You've been doing it way way more actively than pretty much anyone i've seen so far like
To extend that everyone on x it's like a supporter of your company
So what what did you learn the most?
What surprised you the most about all this attention you've got and all this customer demand that you've got and user love that you've got so far
Yeah, um, yeah, that's a great question. Actually, you know a couple things first of all, this is not my first startup
You know, I I I I've I've dedicated my entire career
Uh building ideas on my own. Uh, I I think
This one in particular with the journey of rabbit, which we just started
What I learned, you know, probably this is something that I learned in the past weeks, you know, to be honest is that
Towards their existing apps and existing phones, you know, I I know I want to get rid of the apps
And I know iphones are boring
But I don't I don't expect to start such great waves of resonance that you know
People are accidentally designing new phone factors for us
Uh, that's that's what you see me post on twitter with supports
People are designing watches people are doing all kinds of different things and different colors of the horror
So I I think that quite surprised me because I think you know
Maybe it's gonna be very hard to convince people that this is new and and you have you know
We need to figure out a magic for people to love it
I think that that's that's quite surprising and another thing is that
I think color played a lot of
Lot of roles here like I would say that if we design this
Say if we use just matte black or or silver
Uh, I wouldn't I wouldn't expect the the r1 can be as iconic in design industry as so quickly as as what we are
Experiencing now, uh, so I think color plays played a lot of a lot of
Factors on helping us to get our uh, you know images and and and and phone factors out there
um, but but to myself I also learned quite important lesson is that
you know, no matter how successful you are and how
How well educated and the experiences you are I mean being a startup is a reset
You know if you if you want to do a startup it has nothing to do with
Whatever you did before and it has nothing to do with your past past, you know titles or whatever. That is
It's always a hard bootstrap. It always starts from beginning and I think you know
Um, that's why you know, I I try to put myself as as transparent as as active as possible
Uh, even though that sometimes is quite exhausting
But I think you know, we position ourselves if you look at our teams, you know amazing team
They achieve a lot of things. Um, but you know we deep in our heart. We understand we're a new startup
We're we're we're new startup and this is our very first product and nothing
uh needs to be prejudged we have to
you know act like a startup and
Catch up with the the startup speed and and be the fastest guy out there
And at the same time be as transparent as we can
Speaking of that like what are some other AI products, you know out there
That because that you know interesting you and exciting you today. Yeah, uh
Well, I like just to I like just to test new things, you know
I guess you can categorize myself as like a super read adapter
So, uh, I was actually in the hour five test group
Back then, uh, I was actually one of the first
I think i'm probably the first 200 guys to ever get hold of google glass back then
And obviously I i'm one of the early octopus d3 one purchasers
Uh, and obviously I I support, uh, eric and pieball if you guys still remember pieball the first
Uh ink smartwatch, um, so I tried a lot of new things. I keep trying new things. I probably uh,
Set up alarm on friday to order the vision pro as well
But I think well, I when we started rabbit there there's obviously that you know, there's humane there's uh,
abby, uh tab there's you know meta classes there's
The way we the way we position ourselves is we first position ourselves as users, right?
I I first ordered a human aip on day one. Uh, i'm still waiting and I watched the entire
Talk from abby from cab. Uh, I learned a lot, you know, like
It's quite different perspective that everyone is working for the same goal, which is you know, that's the that's the thing
I think we're all getting excited
Um, so so the thing is I put myself into the user perspective
And if you put yourself in the user's perspective, you kind of like
You know because you are also doing the same thing. You are making a new device with ai
Um that eliminates a lot of your personal egos and that eliminates a lot of your um,
You know prejudgment or or or misunderstanding?
Um, but really just to put myself in the user's perspective
Perspective and make relevant decisions because if I put myself in in a in a user's perspective
And knowing that the current level of ai
I'm not sure if i'm gonna pay 800 bucks plus monthly subscription, right?
I'm not sure if i'm gonna just get rid of the screen completely
And i'm not sure if i'm gonna wear a glass on
I mean I paid 6 000 bucks to get a lasek to get rid of my class. I'm not sure why
I'm gonna i'm gonna put a glass every day to work. So
The you know, we put ourselves in user's perspective and I interview with each of our team members
Like what do you think about this if you're a user?
We got a lot of the insights. I I think that's the best practice
Anyway, but again for the record
I like competition. I I think competition
That leads to innovation that leads to honesty and ultimately with competition
Make their product better and much more affordable and accessible
Uh, so all all and all competition benefits customers and audiences, right? So we love competition
Uh, you know that pushes us
Yeah, I I think you know put yourself in user's perspective. That's most important
And and do you have any thoughts on you know in a
Siri is able to do a lot of things voice to voice with
Uh generative AI more natively
Do you think the phone phone factor is still like amazing then or there's a lot of people who are skeptical about like why do we need another device?
Yeah, if eventually apple is going to blast a new version of siri to everybody. Yeah, um, i'm sure that's going to happen
Accelerated these guys to make themselves push a little bit more aggressive than they're currently doing
There there's no way to avoid that right so like not because because they they're gonna do what they're gonna do and
my honest opinion towards that is that
I've known enough people within this big companies
I think general public don't get it
Sometimes, you know, we saw news that oh apple is doing this apple is doing that
And google is is it's doing this and google is doing that
Couple folks there and they'll they'll tell you oh, they're just a small team of 10 people with a limited budget of two million
You know, that's that's what's really is
So for big companies that they have this massive established ecosystem that changing anything is going to be
A very very very hard sequence. So I think yes, you can wait
Um, but it's gonna be a long time. It's gonna be a very long time. I don't personally foresee how apple can
Just based on the current experience of the ios
You know following the current incentives of the apps to you know, basically encouraging people to build one app for one thing
And all of a sudden re-ramps everything and make something like a larger action model
And same to other companies, but however, I think
You know phone factors. Yes, uh, I don't like to carry two devices. Uh, I personally don't I think no one should
If you can carry one device you should
I think a lot of people are
Not holding our one in our hand and and if you hold your arm in your hand you're surprised how light it is
It's 110 grams and and try to try to go to your fridge and pick 2x
And then and then how small it is because I have a ridiculous small hand
So I think you know, my demos is not a good reference. I just met another guy
They're like, oh you did this wrong because you have small hand people don't get it. How small it is
Um, it was it it's just it's it's it's the exact same footprint of your iphone pro max
uh, uh with with with wise so
People said that even for the vision pro ad where they said apple pick people not not with like big heads
Yeah, ideally you want to pick people big heads because the vision pro headset looks so massive, right?
Uh, I don't I don't think it really matters. Exactly
Yeah, but I think you know, like I said, no one no one no one can
Confident say oh, hey, this is the best phone factor
I personally think that phone is is good because it's just a little piece of glass with
Basically edge slash screen. That's the current general phone is
But phones are relatively easy to make not from engineer wise but purely from resource wise
You know, there's a lot of reference designs, you know
Uh, uh teen engineering which I said or of helped bootstrap nothing the entire nothing, uh with with kaupei
Uh, so we know the phone business quite well phones are relatively easy to source if you're talking about cars and everything
And everything is more established
But I don't think that we should just present a phone for the first generation. We'd rather do something small cheap and fun
And slowly involved to that so there's there's no there's there's no
Guarantee that we said oh we're not gonna make the phone
Uh, we can but I don't think make the phone as first generation is a good choice
Um, but for those companies out there, I think they started to try something new, you know
Like we see meta start trying glasses and all that different stuff
Um, but but all in all I think you know hardware is just a vehicle. It's a phone
It's a vehicle that host what's inside and the software experience matters
Uh, what's truly renovating about rabbit is not about this a hundred dollar a hundred sorry a hundred ninety nine dollar
Uh a piece of hardware. That's the vehicle to host lamb and rabbit os and and good services like
Practically, I think the software experience matters. So to us it's almost like apple, you know, like we figure out lamb
And lamb is so good that we have that and we quickly realize that this cannot be easily
Developed as an app easily developed as anything other and running on their platform
So that we decided decided to do this this hardware and if you think about apple, uh, ipad was actually
before iphone, uh, ipad was a the first project, uh
In this current generation now iphone was actually later on but I uh, you know steve first wants to build a glass
So here's the ipad and steve asked the team to research on how to work on it how to interact with it
And the apple engineer presented multitouch
And the multitouch experience is so good that steve actually postponed the ipad project. Just do the iphone straight away
It gives us a similar feeling, you know, like we know lamb is so good that we don't want to just build an app
We don't want to just build a website
Uh, we don't want to be just you know on the on the system that is not controlled
Uh, it's not specifically designed by the better lamb. We would rather to take a little bit risk to do hardware
But phone factor was like I said, we we de-risk that we de-risk everything and r1 is a result of de-risking
Um, but no one knows the correct phone factor. I have to say that
Speaking of that, uh, you know, like uh, all the market that you've seen so far the 50 000 people that have ordered your device
And hopefully like hundreds of thousands more
What are you seeing as use cases people are excited about and like
How how much of that requires something like real-time?
Live information the kind of information that perplexity provides you. Yeah, so for me, you know, I mean
I've been carrying a r1 the earliest version in the prototype and now I have the the ready version
I've been carrying around in my pocket for probably past
uh six to eight months, um
Cup of the scenarios. I really really don't need my phone is that
First of all search. I don't think the current app
Um on your phone or website
Uh even close reasonable answers and accurate answers and and precise answers
I guess that's that's one of the biggest reasons that perplexity becomes perplexity because the search won't just good
But there's a lot of daily search I need and I would rather to just get a pinpoint answer
uh, so I use search obviously I use search a lot and it's actually easy for me to do that on r1 because I
I probably on something else, you know all the time. I probably have
uh slack message coming I probably on a
On x and and check on twitter's I probably on on the on the email thread
Then for that blink blink of the second
I just press that button ask question and give me answer right away. So I use search a lot. Uh, I also like the music
because again music today is more of a
Companionship other than dedicated
Activities, you don't you don't just you don't just call your friend be like hey
Everyone what you're up to this afternoon. You'll be like, hey jesse. I listen three hours on music
Like no one do this like music is on the go. It's on the back end. It's on the ambient. So
But we do need music. So music is always you know, kind of like
Sit behind the same role kind of like that. So I give you a live example, you know, I
I sometimes I play games and I I I'm you know, literally focused on a game
Press that button and change the song and play the entire different collection of my music library. That feels really cool
Uh and and giving by the fact that the music starts immediately 500 minutes
Another big scenario is I'm I you know living in a los angeles or anywhere virtually america
I guess except you hook you drive a car lot
Right. So there's a lot hours that spend on on road driving the cars and no matter what kind of different car systems you are with
uh, you know r1 connects to my bluetooth and again
I just press that button and I I set navigation ask questions on the go
I change uh add a stop I search for a gas station or charging spot and as well as control my home media
I think that really really
it's a really really satisfied experience and
One thing that's really satisfying to me is that at least finally now people can experience other kinds of search right product search experiences
Uh rather than having to you know be dictated upon one decision
Unswipe down your screen because someone's paying you a lot of money
So I think that's great and like, you know, we should push the field forward with like more
Cutting edge experiences for others and I hopefully that you know, that that's also another motivating factor for people to explore this new device
Definitely. Definitely. And finally, I want to mention a new thing that uh, i'm currently super interested
Is the capability of the camera plus search
Yes, that's pokedex basic, right? You point to the pikachu ask what this is and it gives you an entire
Density of answer was it I think that's such a great educational tool for the younger generation
I want to learn everything about everything
And now think about if we can put a real pocketex in the future generation of kids
And then you you take them to the zoo take them to the park
And they just start exploring
Uh using this vision plus advanced search like capacity. I think that's a very very uh, very very exciting scenario
Good good point to wrap this up and you know, i'm super excited to work with uh rabbit
And I want you know, hopefully this is the beginning of something amazing for many years. Yeah, sounds good
I mean it's just getting started. Uh, we know that our
Most our team are working together on some really really exciting things, um to make it
Much much more than what we should do today. Um, but I think
Uh, you know the key for us is
We want to work with the best services on our device
and search is such an important catalog that we simply
Wants to choose the best and perplexity is the best right now in the market. Um giving back my own test
Um, but we know everyone probably in your mind you have probably 10 more ideas
I probably have 10 more ideas on how we can make it even better
That's where we're heading. Yeah, absolutely
Cool, thank you everybody for joining and hopefully you can go and purchase your r1. Yeah, sounds good
so so we will send the email with uh practice v code, uh, and uh,
If you just follow the announcement on our twitter, uh
We'll make sure this is a very smooth experience
And uh, yeah, thanks for the generous offer again, uh, everyone at the publicity team. We're super excited
Thank you. Thank you. See you. All right. Bye. Bye